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Speaker 2: Hello, you got New Zealands and welcome to mattin Tyler

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Speaker 2: Fool Show Podcast number one ninety one for Tuesday, the

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Speaker 2: twenty sixth of August twenty twenty five. Fantastic show today.

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Speaker 2: I get outed at the end for my slack behavior

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Speaker 2: when I was a warehouse manager at a particular internet

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Speaker 2: Talk ZEDB and the growing audience of Matt and Tyler afternoons.

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Speaker 2: Thank you getting bigger and bigger that someone that I

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Speaker 2: worked with that could confirm some shocking truths about me

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Speaker 2: back then.

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Speaker 3: It was glorious.

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Speaker 4: And also we found out who has the most vasecto

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Speaker 4: mees in New Zealand and you will never guess we

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Speaker 4: actually got on the phone with him.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right, and quite an amusing name for a

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Speaker 2: guy that's had that many visect to me. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: You got the big stories, the leaker issues, the big

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Speaker 1: trends and everything in between. The Matt Heath and Tyler

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Speaker 4: Be very good afternoon to you. Welcome into Tuesday show.

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Speaker 4: So good to have your company as always, hope you're

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Speaker 4: having a great day. Seven past one, Get a Mets.

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Speaker 2: Get a Tyler good, everyone thinks for tuning in, We've

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Speaker 2: got three hours of scintillating cobbled together talk back for you.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely now just before we get onto that, and bear

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Speaker 4: with me because this will sound like a bit of

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Speaker 4: a punishing chap, but I'm okay with it, and I

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Speaker 4: just want to talk about the power of a good

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Speaker 4: morning from strangers. So there's been no doubt about it.

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Speaker 4: I've been a little bit out of sorts for the

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Speaker 4: past week. You've been great, mate, but we know why

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Speaker 4: I have been a little bit out of sorts. It's

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Speaker 4: been a big week for the family.

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Speaker 2: And if you went, how is the family?

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Speaker 4: They're good. They're good. Yep, yep, after a lovely service.

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Speaker 4: If you weren't listening, last week, my dear Nana Betty

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Speaker 4: passed away, so he headed down to christ You spent

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Speaker 4: some time with the family but it's you know, it

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Speaker 4: kind of hits you a little bit later on, doesn't

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Speaker 4: it with those sort of things. So I've been feeling

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Speaker 4: and got down to our beautiful dog park up here

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Speaker 4: I've got to say every single person I walked past

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Speaker 4: and said good morning. And what a mood booster that is.

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Speaker 4: Genuinely it is. Yeah, it is such a nice thing.

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Speaker 4: And I was just thinking, that is something we've got

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Speaker 2: Do you instigate the hello are you? First? I looked.

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Speaker 3: They were having a good morning. They were happy.

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Speaker 4: I know it sounds polyonderish, but it is instantly the

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Speaker 4: One hundred percent? And I'd hope I mean getting a

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Speaker 2: I know you've got to smile back if someone smiles. Exactly,

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Speaker 4: three o'clock a video that you sent through that you

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we wanted do you know someone that slacks off

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Speaker 2: that's just slacking off all day. It's a very funny clip,

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Speaker 2: it is. But there's a lot of people dealing with

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, you know, I've been in jobs before, I've done

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Speaker 4: Get nothing changes, that is after three o'clock. After two o'clock,

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Speaker 4: and the child free movement has been gaining momentum in

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Speaker 4: talks to several Kiwi women who have chosen not to

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Speaker 2: Yeah. A friend of mine just had a baby this morning, actually,

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Speaker 2: In fact, increasing numbers of Kiwi's are just saying never

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Speaker 4: All right, what have we got after one after one o'clock,

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Speaker 4: which is right now? Actually, let's have a chat about

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Speaker 4: New Zealand being the third safest place in the world.

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Speaker 4: So this was after a recent survey. They do it

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Speaker 4: every year by the Institute for Economics and Peace Global

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Speaker 1: Kiwi.

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Speaker 4: We have the my taste and it is measured on

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Speaker 4: twenty three different indicators. But that is I mean, when

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Speaker 4: I read that story this morning, that made me proud,

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Speaker 3: Very I love it.

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Speaker 4: I love a list where we're near the top. And

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Speaker 4: I've got to say I generally do feel safer in

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Speaker 4: New Zealand that I may have even one two three

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Speaker 4: years ago. Yeah really, yeah, you feel safer absolutely right. Okay,

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Speaker 4: that's interesting. Well, we have to drill down into the

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Speaker 4: methodology of these international studies. One part of it that

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Speaker 4: when you read these studies from from out overseas and

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Speaker 4: really and one of the things they say in New

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Speaker 4: doors unlocked, and motorists stop to help broken down vehicles.

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Speaker 4: There's a general trust in others and in the systems

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Speaker 4: I mean that is a very utopia image of New Zealand.

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Speaker 4: I love it where the kids walk to school and

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Speaker 4: a lot of kids do work to school. I don't

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Speaker 4: know about the number of people that leave their doors

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Speaker 2: Well, we've got a bunch of tecks coming through here.

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Speaker 2: What rubbish. New Zealand is not safe. I have had

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Speaker 2: That would sound pretty funny for someone that lived in

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Speaker 2: time stole TV and a breadmaker. Wow, breadmakers useless.

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Speaker 3: I mean most we've all got them and never use them.

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Speaker 2: It was either going to the garage and then I

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Speaker 2: don't mean make light of it, but how many breadmakers

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Speaker 2: still get used? There's another question we could ask second time,

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Speaker 2: stole nothing but left the door open, so I knew

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Speaker 2: they'd been in there. I mean, that doesn't sound like

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Speaker 2: the worst story I've ever heard. No, but it's not great.

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Speaker 2: You'd prefer people to come into your house and steal

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Speaker 2: your bread maker?

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Speaker 6: True?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I leave my door unlocked for the kids when

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Speaker 2: in Mangoty. No problems ever.

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Speaker 4: Well, love to hear from you. I wait one hundred

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Speaker 4: eighty ten eighty A couple of questions here. One, how

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Speaker 4: do you feel about the safety of New Zealand right now?

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Speaker 4: Do you think we deserve the third safety as safe

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Speaker 4: ast country in the world? And do you genuinely leave

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Speaker 4: your doors unlocked? That utopiare of New Zealand that we

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Speaker 4: I think we did have in the eighties and nineties?

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Speaker 3: Is it still there?

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Speaker 4: Love to hear from you. Do you trust your neighbors.

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Speaker 2: In the nineties When I was walking down George Street

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Speaker 2: and toned them in the nineties and someone punched me

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Speaker 2: in the back of the head, it wasn't all friendly

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Speaker 2: in the nineties.

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Speaker 4: It's pretty good and Nelson. I've got to save the nineties.

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Speaker 2: Never locked my door, never robbed Livin Henderson. Chances are solo.

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Speaker 2: You will get burgled. I reckon deal with it when

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Speaker 2: it happens, but I refuse to live in fear.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. Oh wait, one hundred eighty ten eighty is the

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Speaker 4: number to call, love to hear your thoughts on this one?

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Speaker 4: Do you feel safe in this country of ours? And

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Speaker 4: do you leave your doors unlocked and trust your neighbors?

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Speaker 4: It is fourteen past one.

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Speaker 1: The big stories, the big issues, the big te friends

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Speaker 3: So what do you say? Oh, one hundred and eighty

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Speaker 2: I'm getting it a little bit of kick back because

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Speaker 2: I said, who would want to steal a bread maker?

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Speaker 2: Theft? Funny? Is it you are the problem with our country?

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Speaker 4: Well, they are kind of like it's like a juicer, right,

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Speaker 2: Don't give with a bread maker? And look, bless this person.

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry your bread maker is stolen. I get it.

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Speaker 2: What do you need to breadmaker and make bread? Just

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Speaker 2: You need an oven and bread stuff.

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Speaker 7: No, firstly, I think you're just bibras.

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Speaker 2: But the smell looks so good though in your house

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Speaker 7: Yeah, at Leta's not talking about butter.

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Speaker 7: Now we've moved about six months ago into Bench Branchla.

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Speaker 2: Part of it, isn't it? Because you know, you want

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Speaker 8: Yeah. Absolutely.

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Speaker 2: The sixth says they only steal the breadmaker if there's

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Speaker 4: Oh, very good.

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Speaker 2: That's that's that's quite good from you. Well done texter.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we like more of that, please, guys.

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Speaker 2: I never locked the door. It locks itself. Great feature, fancy. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 4: It's twenty four past one. Do you feel safe in

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I made some glib comments about a bread

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Speaker 4: And someone sent through a recipe for the best cheese

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Speaker 2: Hmmm, yeah, look, I might be walking back my anti

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Speaker 4: Absolutely that there's a New Zealand I love. Oh, one

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Speaker 2: Graham says, New Zealand is unsafe. I used to work

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Speaker 2: going door to door selling burglar alarms. It was really easy.

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Speaker 2: Love that. That's an interesting technique. Someone come home and

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Speaker 3: Do you want to have a chat about your breadmaker?

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Speaker 2: By all men could be showing my bread maker ignorance here, Pete,

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Speaker 2: there's no way you'd leave your doors unlocked.

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Speaker 12: no way when they get your doors.

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Speaker 12: No, I definitely know because the end of the day

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Speaker 12: You lost, just lost your cover on that. Why would

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Speaker 12: I don't know what the stets are, but I think

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Speaker 12: I think getting so many people out there in our age,

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Speaker 12: you left the door open open? You're actually a full personally.

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Speaker 2: Since you say that, pete around the insurance because the

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Speaker 2: Not quite door, but kind of close. An insurance company

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Speaker 2: the insurance and financial services on Budsman's scheme. They returned

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Speaker 4: eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call

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Speaker 4: nobody locks their doors, and people pull over to help

441
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Speaker 4: someone who's broken down on the side of the road.

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Speaker 2: And what's the number one safest country in the world

443
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Speaker 2: according to this Iceland?

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Speaker 3: Right, So they're doing pretty well over in Iceland.

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Speaker 2: Russiakovic, Yes, so you've got three hundred and fifty thousand

446
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Speaker 2: people in a place about half the size of the UK,

447
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Speaker 2: so there's a good chance you won't run into anyone

448
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Speaker 2: to burgle or to assault.

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Speaker 4: A lot of space there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, love to go to Iceland. God, I'd love to

451
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Speaker 2: go to Iceland. Hi, guys, how safe you are or

452
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Speaker 2: field depends on where in New Zealand you live. As

453
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Speaker 2: for trusting your neighbors, it's probably not them you have

454
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Speaker 2: to worry about, but opportunists who don't live in the

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Speaker 2: immediate vicinity. Regards Tracy, Youah'll be interested to know. You know,

456
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Speaker 2: when you get burgled, is it people just going around

457
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Speaker 2: trying every door or are they watching you for a bit?

458
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Speaker 2: Or who generally burgles people?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: I think you know, when they take a burglar off

461
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Speaker 2: the street, when they if they actually investigate a crime

462
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Speaker 2: and find a burglar, often it's the same people that

463
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Speaker 2: are doing hundreds of burglaries. Yeah, you know that that.

464
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Speaker 2: You know, once you do one, you do another, and

465
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Speaker 2: another another, another, and another another another another. So taking

466
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Speaker 2: one burglar down can can make a big dent on

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Speaker 2: burglar stats in an area.

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Speaker 3: Have you ever been hurt?

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Speaker 2: Yep?

470
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Speaker 3: Have you yep? A couple of times?

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Speaker 13: Yep?

472
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Speaker 2: Stole my partner's engagement ring, tried to steal a bunch

473
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Speaker 2: of computer stuff, but got tangled up with all the

474
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Speaker 2: lead the extension courts, gods, and so when we got

475
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Speaker 2: home that was dragged out and then the desk was

476
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Speaker 2: blocking the door like an anchor in the were yanking

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Speaker 2: on it. Yeah, I mean I was pretty angry. There's

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Speaker 2: there's a feeling you get where you have just that

479
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Speaker 2: you've just been they've been in your house and they've

480
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Speaker 2: wronged you so badly. Yep, that makes you really really angry,

481
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Speaker 2: and especially someone that would steal an engagement room. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: you know, oh hundred and that was a lot long

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Speaker 2: with a lot of other jewelry. That was just a

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Speaker 2: particularly special part of jewelry.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, oh, one hundred eighty ten eighty is and umber

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Speaker 4: to call. Do you feel safe in New Zealand? And

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Speaker 4: if you have been hit by one of these dirt bags,

488
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Speaker 4: if you've been broken into love to hear what the story.

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Speaker 2: Was, and we'll share with you what the second most

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Speaker 2: safe country in the world is. You'll never guess if

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Speaker 2: I spoke better. Safest country in the world, not most safe, all.

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Speaker 4: Right, it's a boozy, all right. Bang on half past

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Speaker 4: one headlines with Wendy then we're taking more of your

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Speaker 4: calls on Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty.

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Speaker 13: Youth Talk said the headlines with blue Bubble Taxi, there's

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Speaker 13: no trouble with a blue bubble. A fifty three year

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Speaker 13: old man has been arrested following reports of students being

498
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Speaker 13: suspiciously approached in christ Church. Police responded to concerns in

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Speaker 13: Maryvale and Saint Albans earlier this month after a man

500
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Speaker 13: was allegedly stopping students and offering cash for inappropriate favor.

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Speaker 13: Police are still trying to establish the cause of death

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Speaker 13: of a baby found in an Auckland wheelie bin in

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Speaker 13: Freeman's Bay last month. A thirty two year old woman

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Speaker 13: has been charged with interfering with human remains. The second

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Speaker 13: day of the trial in the twenty twenty three Loafers

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Speaker 13: Lodge fire in Wellington is underway, with a fifty year

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Speaker 13: old man accused of five counts of murder and two

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Speaker 13: of arson. This afternoon, the court heard the conditions including

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Speaker 13: the heat, were changing rapidly and a structure exploding into

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Speaker 13: flames was inevitable. Police are working to determine the nature

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Speaker 13: of a may Day report before continuing a search for

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Speaker 13: an apparent missing boat off the coast of Wellington and

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Speaker 13: Auckland's Mayor Wayne Brown has been criticized for not attending

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Speaker 13: a mayoral debate at Auckland University tonight because of an

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Speaker 13: already booked meeting with Howick voters. Plus email shown police

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Speaker 13: commissioner held serious concerns about culture, leadership and standards at

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Speaker 13: the Police College. Find out more at ends at Herald Premium.

518
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Speaker 13: Now back to mattent Tyler.

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Speaker 4: Thank you very much, Wendy, and we talk talking about

520
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Speaker 4: how safe do you feel in New Zealand after we've

521
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Speaker 4: got a ranking of the third safety safe at country

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Speaker 4: in the world. So number one was Iceland's yep, and

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Speaker 4: how he says it, rock Kovich, you're.

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Speaker 3: Asking the wrong person. Ninety two nine two.

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Speaker 2: A lot of consonants you say that they love a letter.

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Speaker 2: But the most isolated country city in the world according

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Speaker 2: to the stextas saying maybe you're not getting a lot

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Speaker 2: of walk up fifth I don't know, but number two

529
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Speaker 2: number two is.

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Speaker 4: Ireland, yeah, good old Ireland.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. And so what are the criteria for this rating?

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Speaker 2: Because you know we mentioned it before, so you know,

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Speaker 2: these international studies sometimes they don't track with the experience

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Speaker 2: on the ground.

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Speaker 4: So there were twenty three indicators. I'll go through all

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Speaker 4: of them as quickly and as clearly as I can.

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Speaker 2: Twenty three can you can you just the highlights things, mate?

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Speaker 4: Al right? External conflicts for perceptions of criminality, violent demonstrations,

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Speaker 4: political terra scale, armed services personnel, rate of the homicide,

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Speaker 4: rate of police, rate of nuclear and heavy weapons, political

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Speaker 4: and ability access to small arms. That's a bigger intensity

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Speaker 4: of internal conflict, incarceration rate, terrorism impact, refugees, peacekeeping, neighboring

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Speaker 4: country relations, violent crime, and internal conflicts fought. Well, you

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Speaker 4: see how we've got there, don't you, Because we don't

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Speaker 4: have ny X yep.

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Speaker 2: We don't have anyone pressuring our pressuring our border because

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Speaker 2: we're in the middle of the South Pacific, in the

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Speaker 2: middle of nowhere. So you see how those things tack up,

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Speaker 2: don't you.

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that.

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Speaker 14: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And where your house is getting burgled is down the

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Speaker 2: list a little bit there, isn't it Exactly?

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Speaker 3: Eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to call.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and if someone works in insurance, because we've

557
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Speaker 2: been trying to get hold of the insurance council, the

558
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Speaker 2: Insurance Council of New Zealand to ask what the rules

559
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Speaker 2: are around if you get burgled and you haven't locked

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Speaker 2: your doors, whether the insurance company can deny your claim

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Speaker 2: or not. Yeah, but they haven't got back to us.

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Speaker 2: So if you know, if you're in the industry, it'd

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Speaker 2: be interested to find out. Eight hundred and eighty ten

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Speaker 2: at and welcome to the show.

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Speaker 3: Hello, Hello A Vaughn.

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Speaker 14: Are you now?

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Speaker 2: He isn't loud and clear?

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Speaker 12: Thank you?

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Speaker 8: I have been burgooked.

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Speaker 15: It was invasive.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know.

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Speaker 15: We struggled through a two weeks after that, but it

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Speaker 15: was it actually targeted. I had bought some significant yacht

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Speaker 15: fittings and we went sailing on a Wednesday night, came

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Speaker 15: over nine wells and the garage should be built. Probably

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Speaker 15: about ten to fifteen wandsworth of yours was taken. The irony.

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Speaker 15: What alerted me was when I called it garage. My

578
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Speaker 15: dumb boots were and my sailing boots were parts neatly

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Speaker 15: because they put them down and take them with them.

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Speaker 16: Ah.

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Speaker 2: Right. Do you think this was a crime of opportunity

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Speaker 2: or do you think it was just they just randomly

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Speaker 2: came across across your place.

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Speaker 15: No, that was a targeted environment. I believe when standing

585
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Speaker 15: in the nautical shop in the Avenue Road in the street,

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Speaker 15: they overheard the conversation because it was been across the

587
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Speaker 15: shop why did I need this particular fitting and what

588
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Speaker 15: having was going to be putting on my yacht? And

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Speaker 15: they knew.

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Speaker 8: Exactly what so I speak.

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Speaker 15: It was actually a target of environment. That was before

592
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Speaker 15: I sold security. After selling security for ten years, I

593
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Speaker 15: came to the conclusion the locked door only keeps an.

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Speaker 8: Honest personal touch right.

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Speaker 15: And invariably if people were burbal, I usually got phona

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Speaker 15: for and the costs that they expected me to turn

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Speaker 15: up within hours of discovering their verfery to have at

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Speaker 15: and organized for a security alarmed feet pusiness. But even

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Speaker 15: they were being bypassed because then it should know better

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Speaker 15: know how through five parts alarms.

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Speaker 2: And your experience, in your experience as anyway to seal

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Speaker 2: upper house such that burglars just can't get in.

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Speaker 15: No, No, if they really want what's in there, they

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Speaker 15: will target the alarm. They're always around it. They will

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Speaker 15: cut the window out. Lazy ones will just break that

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Speaker 15: door window and clive in and unlocked. There's most lots

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Speaker 15: be unlocked from their.

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Speaker 17: Sides out with a m M.

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Speaker 4: So, I mean the other thing is the.

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Speaker 15: Other thing is that if you are burgled and significant

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Speaker 15: things like TV's things like that taken, be careful where

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Speaker 15: you go. They will be backwards in three weeks to

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Speaker 15: take what.

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Speaker 3: You've bought through, right, So, I mean, yeah, got cha.

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Speaker 4: So you you work the security industry, but you've kind

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Speaker 4: of taught yourself out of a job there that nothing

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Speaker 4: really will help, whether it's an alarm system or CCT.

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Speaker 4: Surely there's got to be tips that people can use

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Speaker 4: to try and protect themselves a bit better.

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Speaker 15: Ye have been discreet about what you own and what

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Speaker 15: you buy. Yeah, right, yeah, having a relationship with the neighbors.

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Speaker 15: You never really laugh at this And there, as shears,

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Speaker 15: I discovered if I was really going to be worried

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Speaker 15: about where I lived in my security, I'd buy a

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Speaker 15: house within the reach of one of the base members

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Speaker 15: seeing house.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Avon, thank you very much for giving us a buzz.

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Speaker 2: That I was on. Readit. I don't know why don't

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Speaker 2: spend your time on Reddit. Oh my god, that brain

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Speaker 2: erasure there. You might as well, be on TikTok no.

631
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Speaker 2: But I was on Reddit once and I was reading

632
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Speaker 2: an ama with a burglar and it was actually few

633
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Speaker 2: burglars came in there and they asked what would turn

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Speaker 2: them away? This is about two years ago, and they

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Speaker 2: said cameras. Right, Cameras are a big, big deterrent.

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Speaker 4: Good to know.

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Speaker 2: If they really want to get in, they'll get in.

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Speaker 2: But cameras, if they see cameras, they're like that, it's probably not.

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Speaker 4: With it noted I'm buying a camera after this. I

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Speaker 4: eight on hundred eighty ten eighty.

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Speaker 2: This person just tests through. Ironically, I'm listening to this

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Speaker 2: on my way to the store to buy some CCTV cameras.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it sounds like it works.

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Speaker 2: In the safest country in the world. Yeah, third third

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Speaker 2: according to this.

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Speaker 3: After Iceland and Ireland.

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Speaker 4: Oh eight one hundred eighty ten eighties the number to

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Speaker 4: call got to play some messages. But when we come back,

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Speaker 4: we'll have a chat with Steve, who got robbed by

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Speaker 4: someone who should have been able to trust. It is

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Speaker 4: nineteen to two, a.

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Speaker 1: Fresh take on took Back. It's Matt Heathen Taylor Adams

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Speaker 1: Afternoons Have your say on eight hundred eighty ten eighty

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Speaker 1: youth talks.

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Speaker 4: B very good afternoons. You we are talking about the

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Speaker 4: safety of New Zealand. Do you feel safe in this country?

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Speaker 4: According to a recent global report, we came at number three,

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Speaker 4: the third safest country in the world, behind Iceland and Ireland.

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Speaker 3: Do you feel that I eight hundred eighty ten eighty

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Speaker 3: had a.

661
00:29:00,453 --> 00:29:03,093
Speaker 2: House burgled three times in different suburbs, cast all and

662
00:29:03,133 --> 00:29:05,893
Speaker 2: once with steering lock on and a mobilizer within thirty

663
00:29:05,893 --> 00:29:09,853
Speaker 2: minutes of parking at work. Broken into different cars different

664
00:29:09,853 --> 00:29:13,853
Speaker 2: times about seven times, usually for stereos, speakers or belongings.

665
00:29:14,653 --> 00:29:17,973
Speaker 2: The six says of it and interrupted two burglars. Both

666
00:29:18,013 --> 00:29:21,573
Speaker 2: times it was people from out of town. First one

667
00:29:21,653 --> 00:29:25,453
Speaker 2: was the neighbor. What from out of town? But was

668
00:29:25,453 --> 00:29:27,933
Speaker 2: the neighbor? I don't get it. The first one was

669
00:29:27,973 --> 00:29:31,013
Speaker 2: the neighbor. Second one was in the house. I see,

670
00:29:31,413 --> 00:29:33,573
Speaker 2: I got so interrupted people from out of time. One

671
00:29:33,613 --> 00:29:37,093
Speaker 2: was in the neighbor's house, gotcha, gotcha? Three of them

672
00:29:37,133 --> 00:29:39,173
Speaker 2: in my house at two am. Managed to keep hold

673
00:29:39,213 --> 00:29:41,173
Speaker 2: of one of them until the cops got there. Didn't

674
00:29:41,173 --> 00:29:42,413
Speaker 2: feel safe at home for ages?

675
00:29:42,533 --> 00:29:45,013
Speaker 3: That is freaking scary. Two am.

676
00:29:45,133 --> 00:29:47,333
Speaker 2: I had a mate, right, he's a big fella yep,

677
00:29:49,293 --> 00:29:54,773
Speaker 2: but trained in the fighting, yep. Good man tonight and

678
00:29:54,933 --> 00:29:57,933
Speaker 2: he came home and found two burglars in his house yep.

679
00:29:58,133 --> 00:30:00,173
Speaker 2: And he said to them, you can either try and

680
00:30:00,173 --> 00:30:02,333
Speaker 2: come through me, or you can go off the balcony.

681
00:30:02,933 --> 00:30:05,173
Speaker 2: And they both decided to jump off the balcony, and

682
00:30:05,253 --> 00:30:06,853
Speaker 2: goodness is one of them broke his leg and the

683
00:30:06,853 --> 00:30:07,573
Speaker 2: other one ran away.

684
00:30:07,893 --> 00:30:11,133
Speaker 4: Yes, I'm sure it was disappointing. They took option be

685
00:30:11,693 --> 00:30:15,053
Speaker 4: uh eight is a number to call get a state.

686
00:30:18,213 --> 00:30:22,133
Speaker 18: Yeah, two years ago with an event which created an

687
00:30:22,173 --> 00:30:26,253
Speaker 18: issue my scene with water argument, the insurance company around

688
00:30:26,253 --> 00:30:29,053
Speaker 18: to do a fix, so they got a contract around,

689
00:30:29,053 --> 00:30:32,813
Speaker 18: et cetera. They needed to replace the ceiling and painting

690
00:30:32,813 --> 00:30:35,093
Speaker 18: and that, and we were often hollowed down South for

691
00:30:35,133 --> 00:30:37,133
Speaker 18: a week in urs insurance coming it was okay to

692
00:30:38,213 --> 00:30:40,413
Speaker 18: letting them to see you're not a problem. So anyway

693
00:30:40,533 --> 00:30:43,533
Speaker 18: down south, get a phone call from a neighbor. Our

694
00:30:43,573 --> 00:30:49,493
Speaker 18: garage doors wide open Monday morning, no car, So they

695
00:30:50,373 --> 00:30:52,133
Speaker 18: went over here to look around. The place has been

696
00:30:52,213 --> 00:30:55,373
Speaker 18: cleaned out, TVs all the booze off the shelves or

697
00:30:55,373 --> 00:30:58,653
Speaker 18: the meat and the fridge. Tours the whole lot completely

698
00:30:58,693 --> 00:31:05,293
Speaker 18: cleared out. How long story short, uh contract had the

699
00:31:05,373 --> 00:31:07,453
Speaker 18: key somewhere for the painter come in the next morning,

700
00:31:08,333 --> 00:31:11,773
Speaker 18: a young laborer went down the pub tolds mates where

701
00:31:11,773 --> 00:31:15,533
Speaker 18: the key was. So around these sat Sunday night for

702
00:31:15,733 --> 00:31:18,893
Speaker 18: the car up because they took a car as well.

703
00:31:19,733 --> 00:31:25,173
Speaker 18: Insurance company said, not accepting any liability. Well, put my

704
00:31:25,613 --> 00:31:31,453
Speaker 18: contents claiming. I said, well, and the investigator came around

705
00:31:31,493 --> 00:31:33,693
Speaker 18: and I said, well, you're not going to question what

706
00:31:33,813 --> 00:31:36,333
Speaker 18: I'm going to be claiming because and you're going to

707
00:31:36,453 --> 00:31:42,013
Speaker 18: pay for the TV installation, et cetera. So they accept

708
00:31:42,133 --> 00:31:45,853
Speaker 18: liability but paid out of my claim et cetera. So

709
00:31:46,933 --> 00:31:49,173
Speaker 18: insurance company accessory my burglar.

710
00:31:50,133 --> 00:31:54,653
Speaker 2: Wow, that is complicated. Yes, And did you manage because

711
00:31:54,693 --> 00:31:56,613
Speaker 2: you know, it seems like a clear trail to to

712
00:31:56,653 --> 00:31:59,413
Speaker 2: who did it? So did you manage to find out

713
00:31:59,533 --> 00:32:01,373
Speaker 2: who the actual perpetrators were?

714
00:32:03,013 --> 00:32:03,293
Speaker 15: Yeah?

715
00:32:03,493 --> 00:32:08,573
Speaker 14: Yeah, they it was a gang, a family gang that

716
00:32:08,653 --> 00:32:12,293
Speaker 14: we're doing the houses around there, and the father of

717
00:32:12,413 --> 00:32:15,653
Speaker 14: the guy that told them where the key was marching

718
00:32:15,773 --> 00:32:19,773
Speaker 14: down to the police station. And then when they when

719
00:32:19,773 --> 00:32:22,133
Speaker 14: they got the car, someone had dropped the driver's license

720
00:32:22,173 --> 00:32:23,733
Speaker 14: and the cars. It was pretty easy.

721
00:32:25,213 --> 00:32:26,013
Speaker 2: That is a great.

722
00:32:27,933 --> 00:32:32,333
Speaker 14: And then if some other stolen drawer in the house

723
00:32:32,453 --> 00:32:33,493
Speaker 14: is just swap it over.

724
00:32:34,173 --> 00:32:34,453
Speaker 19: Wow.

725
00:32:34,493 --> 00:32:38,733
Speaker 4: So yeah, you know, I mean that is a massive

726
00:32:39,053 --> 00:32:41,813
Speaker 4: breach of trust though wasn't in the net situation Steve.

727
00:32:42,693 --> 00:32:46,693
Speaker 14: Yeah, exactly. But when they when they investigated specifically, said

728
00:32:47,013 --> 00:32:52,253
Speaker 14: I'm sure it's coming. Don't any liability. You're on your own, mate.

729
00:32:52,333 --> 00:32:54,053
Speaker 14: I said, well, that's good, but you're not going to

730
00:32:54,093 --> 00:32:57,053
Speaker 14: question what I claim for because I was I'm minding

731
00:32:57,053 --> 00:32:59,213
Speaker 14: these people are buying bolt So my free and full

732
00:32:59,213 --> 00:33:04,213
Speaker 14: of e Phillip and my wife was a company that's

733
00:33:04,613 --> 00:33:09,333
Speaker 14: wholeso and sold liquor, credible of trulling a little above

734
00:33:09,693 --> 00:33:12,733
Speaker 14: invoices and all that for it. But yeah, it was

735
00:33:12,733 --> 00:33:14,453
Speaker 14: a bit disappoint an insurance company.

736
00:33:14,653 --> 00:33:17,933
Speaker 2: Yeah that sucks, Steve, but I'm glad they paid out. Hey,

737
00:33:17,933 --> 00:33:21,853
Speaker 2: when buying CTV. When buying CCTV, get a system where

738
00:33:21,893 --> 00:33:24,693
Speaker 2: you can draw trigger lines. Is this text different, it's joel.

739
00:33:24,893 --> 00:33:26,893
Speaker 2: When someone walks over that line, it will send a

740
00:33:26,933 --> 00:33:29,533
Speaker 2: notification to your phone anywhere in the world. Also have

741
00:33:29,613 --> 00:33:32,933
Speaker 2: two times way speaker and light built into the camera

742
00:33:33,053 --> 00:33:35,973
Speaker 2: so that you can speak to the people. Make sure

743
00:33:36,453 --> 00:33:38,933
Speaker 2: to fit some of the CCTV at eye level so

744
00:33:39,013 --> 00:33:41,413
Speaker 2: that you can catch the person's face and can id.

745
00:33:41,493 --> 00:33:44,173
Speaker 2: Then if you have all your cameras up high, they

746
00:33:44,213 --> 00:33:46,413
Speaker 2: can just wear a hood or hat and you won't

747
00:33:46,413 --> 00:33:48,413
Speaker 2: be able to id them. Some good advice from Joel.

748
00:33:48,493 --> 00:33:50,093
Speaker 3: Absolutely, that's a great strategy.

749
00:33:50,373 --> 00:33:54,173
Speaker 2: Step away from my door, or you will go to jail.

750
00:33:54,333 --> 00:33:56,693
Speaker 2: Step away from my bread maker, or you will go

751
00:33:56,773 --> 00:33:57,213
Speaker 2: to jail.

752
00:33:58,213 --> 00:33:59,213
Speaker 3: Simone, how are you.

753
00:34:00,213 --> 00:34:00,813
Speaker 9: It's Simon.

754
00:34:00,933 --> 00:34:01,573
Speaker 20: I'm very one.

755
00:34:01,613 --> 00:34:03,813
Speaker 3: Thank you, Sorry, Simon, it's.

756
00:34:03,653 --> 00:34:06,893
Speaker 21: Okay, no worries. Yes, I was burgled at my home

757
00:34:06,973 --> 00:34:10,252
Speaker 21: about six or seven years ago and walk with and

758
00:34:10,373 --> 00:34:13,813
Speaker 21: it was the middle of the day and all the

759
00:34:13,853 --> 00:34:19,053
Speaker 21: neighbors were home, it turns out, so that's never a guarantee.

760
00:34:19,853 --> 00:34:23,013
Speaker 21: And he jammied open my bedroom window I live in

761
00:34:23,013 --> 00:34:27,653
Speaker 21: a one story house and ransacked the place. But he

762
00:34:27,653 --> 00:34:31,413
Speaker 21: he robbed a poor person because he didn't get much,

763
00:34:32,253 --> 00:34:42,333
Speaker 21: but the police ended up finding out who it was. Yeah, hello, sorry, Yeah,

764
00:34:42,413 --> 00:34:44,933
Speaker 21: so he he actually took what he did take, which

765
00:34:44,973 --> 00:34:46,453
Speaker 21: I was very cross for that was a box of

766
00:34:46,453 --> 00:34:48,333
Speaker 21: things that was really special. So for ever there was

767
00:34:48,373 --> 00:34:50,453
Speaker 21: a fire, I could just run out the door. Like

768
00:34:50,533 --> 00:34:53,773
Speaker 21: every homemade card my kids had ever made me, you know,

769
00:34:55,613 --> 00:34:55,973
Speaker 21: stuff that.

770
00:34:55,973 --> 00:34:58,213
Speaker 2: Would be no value for him, but a huge amount

771
00:34:58,213 --> 00:34:58,853
Speaker 2: of value for you.

772
00:34:59,613 --> 00:35:01,613
Speaker 21: Absolutely. But the reason I think he took it is

773
00:35:01,613 --> 00:35:04,533
Speaker 21: because it had my passports on the top. But instead

774
00:35:04,533 --> 00:35:07,053
Speaker 21: of tipping the whole box out, he just took the

775
00:35:07,053 --> 00:35:09,652
Speaker 21: pillow cases off my bed and sissed it all in there.

776
00:35:09,693 --> 00:35:12,093
Speaker 21: So I'll never get that back. But anyway, he left

777
00:35:12,213 --> 00:35:15,293
Speaker 21: some very good fingerprints because the detective came the next

778
00:35:15,373 --> 00:35:17,453
Speaker 21: day and they knew exactly who he was. They'd been

779
00:35:17,493 --> 00:35:21,133
Speaker 21: looking for him for a long time and before she'd

780
00:35:21,173 --> 00:35:25,213
Speaker 21: gone bush. Very very horrible guide I've met at it,

781
00:35:25,253 --> 00:35:28,613
Speaker 21: but a really nasty person, they told me. And he

782
00:35:28,773 --> 00:35:31,813
Speaker 21: was caught down in Hamilton a few months later in

783
00:35:31,813 --> 00:35:35,053
Speaker 21: a stolen car after robbing someone else.

784
00:35:35,653 --> 00:35:39,333
Speaker 2: So do you know, you know if he was charged, Yes.

785
00:35:39,133 --> 00:35:39,533
Speaker 22: He was.

786
00:35:39,893 --> 00:35:42,093
Speaker 21: They the police told me that he'd probably spent about

787
00:35:42,133 --> 00:35:45,493
Speaker 21: six months in jail, but thankfully he was there for

788
00:35:45,533 --> 00:35:48,693
Speaker 21: about two years. He was that bad, right, Well.

789
00:35:48,693 --> 00:35:50,732
Speaker 2: That's a good that's a good end to that story.

790
00:35:50,773 --> 00:35:53,093
Speaker 2: If he got done as often as we were saying before,

791
00:35:53,453 --> 00:35:56,252
Speaker 2: you know, it's the same people doing multiple burglaries. Yeah,

792
00:35:56,293 --> 00:35:57,733
Speaker 2: you know, people don't tend to just do one and

793
00:35:57,813 --> 00:36:00,613
Speaker 2: leave it. Yeah, they do one, and then another and

794
00:36:00,613 --> 00:36:03,413
Speaker 2: another and another another. Career robbers, so you know, hopefully

795
00:36:03,413 --> 00:36:04,613
Speaker 2: they can get pained for all of them when they

796
00:36:04,613 --> 00:36:05,613
Speaker 2: actually finally get pinged.

797
00:36:05,693 --> 00:36:08,333
Speaker 4: Yes, absolutely right, coming up after we play some message.

798
00:36:08,733 --> 00:36:11,453
Speaker 4: We do actually have an insurance broker on the line

799
00:36:11,613 --> 00:36:14,453
Speaker 4: who can give us some information about whether it's actually

800
00:36:14,493 --> 00:36:16,933
Speaker 4: true if you don't lock your doors you're not going

801
00:36:16,933 --> 00:36:19,573
Speaker 4: to get a payout. So that is coming up very soon.

802
00:36:19,453 --> 00:36:21,933
Speaker 2: Because that's what this international study says, and it says

803
00:36:22,053 --> 00:36:24,613
Speaker 2: kids walk to school in New Zealand, people leave doors unlocked,

804
00:36:24,613 --> 00:36:27,093
Speaker 2: and motorist stopped to help broken down vehicles.

805
00:36:27,253 --> 00:36:29,413
Speaker 4: Yes, it is nine to two.

806
00:36:29,573 --> 00:36:32,213
Speaker 2: We live in a utopia according to this report.

807
00:36:33,373 --> 00:36:36,933
Speaker 1: Matt Heath, Taylor Adams taking your calls on eight hundred

808
00:36:36,933 --> 00:36:41,053
Speaker 1: and eighty ten eighty. It's Mad Heath and Tylor Adams afternoons.

809
00:36:40,453 --> 00:36:44,613
Speaker 3: Newstalks EDB, New stalks HEDB. It is six to two.

810
00:36:45,333 --> 00:36:47,573
Speaker 2: You're right about that feeling, Matt. When you have been burgled,

811
00:36:47,853 --> 00:36:50,173
Speaker 2: was hit a number of years ago, had everything locked

812
00:36:50,333 --> 00:36:54,293
Speaker 2: doors and windows. I don't always lock my door anymore,

813
00:36:54,373 --> 00:36:58,173
Speaker 2: but that feeling is terrible. Eric, you're an insurance broke ca.

814
00:36:58,533 --> 00:37:00,773
Speaker 2: So you may be able to answer our question we've

815
00:37:00,773 --> 00:37:03,812
Speaker 2: been trying to get the answer to if you don't

816
00:37:03,853 --> 00:37:08,493
Speaker 2: lock your doors, does that mean your insurance company can

817
00:37:08,893 --> 00:37:11,973
Speaker 2: not pay out on your claim?

818
00:37:12,133 --> 00:37:14,732
Speaker 9: Yeah, Unfortunately it's not a simple answer. It's like every

819
00:37:14,733 --> 00:37:16,453
Speaker 9: single insurance right.

820
00:37:16,853 --> 00:37:19,733
Speaker 8: So it comes down to most insurance.

821
00:37:19,333 --> 00:37:21,973
Speaker 9: Policies to have a clause in them, which is basically

822
00:37:22,013 --> 00:37:25,293
Speaker 9: saying that you need to take to care and taking

823
00:37:25,373 --> 00:37:28,493
Speaker 9: due here I mean to mean different things in different situations.

824
00:37:28,933 --> 00:37:30,653
Speaker 9: So if you do live in a real property and

825
00:37:30,693 --> 00:37:32,533
Speaker 9: you don't lock your doors, and that's the normal thing

826
00:37:32,573 --> 00:37:36,652
Speaker 9: that everybody in the neighborhood does, right, then it could

827
00:37:36,693 --> 00:37:39,732
Speaker 9: be things that you have taken duke here, because it's

828
00:37:39,773 --> 00:37:41,333
Speaker 9: quite normal for that thing to go on. If you

829
00:37:41,413 --> 00:37:44,213
Speaker 9: live in the middle of a city and you know

830
00:37:44,293 --> 00:37:46,973
Speaker 9: most people lock their houses in the city, then the

831
00:37:47,053 --> 00:37:48,693
Speaker 9: insurance can look at that and say, well, have you

832
00:37:48,733 --> 00:37:50,973
Speaker 9: taken duke here, have you done everything you possibly can

833
00:37:51,053 --> 00:37:56,013
Speaker 9: to sure your items? You know that's reasonable. So it's

834
00:37:56,053 --> 00:37:59,253
Speaker 9: not kind of a black or white it's it's very

835
00:37:59,293 --> 00:38:02,813
Speaker 9: situational and you've got to be them kind of negligent

836
00:38:03,133 --> 00:38:06,053
Speaker 9: as well, So you know, for it really to be

837
00:38:06,253 --> 00:38:08,173
Speaker 9: something that they can go hard on.

838
00:38:09,013 --> 00:38:11,652
Speaker 2: Is it something that an insurance company would investigate before

839
00:38:11,693 --> 00:38:13,933
Speaker 2: they pay out? Are they asking those questions? Were your

840
00:38:13,933 --> 00:38:16,373
Speaker 2: doors locked or your windows lock? Had you taken duke

841
00:38:16,373 --> 00:38:17,653
Speaker 2: care as you say, Eric.

842
00:38:19,213 --> 00:38:20,213
Speaker 7: Yeah, it normally would be.

843
00:38:21,093 --> 00:38:24,333
Speaker 9: Any plary normally would have an investigator put onto it.

844
00:38:24,333 --> 00:38:27,413
Speaker 9: And that's not necessarily because they believe you're own You're

845
00:38:27,453 --> 00:38:30,453
Speaker 9: not a good person, It's just because that's that's generally

846
00:38:30,493 --> 00:38:33,973
Speaker 9: standard protocol for any any burglary type of situations and

847
00:38:34,173 --> 00:38:35,693
Speaker 9: the kind of questions that would get us, you know,

848
00:38:35,733 --> 00:38:37,853
Speaker 9: what kind of measures did you take your your property?

849
00:38:39,173 --> 00:38:42,453
Speaker 9: You know, there are some policies that actually have clauses

850
00:38:42,493 --> 00:38:44,773
Speaker 9: in them where if you say you've got a burger alarm,

851
00:38:44,853 --> 00:38:47,772
Speaker 9: you don't use that burgler alarm. The Empura can actually

852
00:38:47,813 --> 00:38:49,213
Speaker 9: decline your flaime on that basis.

853
00:38:49,693 --> 00:38:49,853
Speaker 1: Right.

854
00:38:50,253 --> 00:38:51,493
Speaker 3: Very interesting, it's interesting.

855
00:38:51,813 --> 00:38:54,652
Speaker 2: Thank you so much for clarifying that stuff, Eric as

856
00:38:54,693 --> 00:38:56,693
Speaker 2: best as you could. So it was New Zealand a

857
00:38:56,733 --> 00:38:58,933
Speaker 2: safe country? Is it the third safest in the world?

858
00:38:58,973 --> 00:39:02,653
Speaker 2: And your perspective Iceland first island US. I was running

859
00:39:02,813 --> 00:39:05,533
Speaker 2: the other morning, six am around my neighborhood and I

860
00:39:05,573 --> 00:39:07,893
Speaker 2: was running through a park yep and us. You know

861
00:39:07,933 --> 00:39:10,172
Speaker 2: I live in Central Auckland, Yeah, and I was thinking,

862
00:39:10,213 --> 00:39:12,212
Speaker 2: you know, I feel pretty safe in the city. I'd

863
00:39:12,253 --> 00:39:14,733
Speaker 2: actually watched that movie. It follows a horror movie, so

864
00:39:14,773 --> 00:39:19,253
Speaker 2: I was actually more scared of supernatural things than real,

865
00:39:19,853 --> 00:39:20,893
Speaker 2: real perpetrators.

866
00:39:20,933 --> 00:39:21,373
Speaker 3: We've got a.

867
00:39:21,293 --> 00:39:23,093
Speaker 4: Problem with ghosts in this country. We've got to do

868
00:39:23,133 --> 00:39:23,773
Speaker 4: something about those.

869
00:39:23,893 --> 00:39:26,693
Speaker 2: Little bit of a shiver thinking about that movie it follows.

870
00:39:26,693 --> 00:39:28,373
Speaker 2: If you've seen it now, that is terrifying.

871
00:39:28,693 --> 00:39:31,093
Speaker 4: Right, great discussion. Thank you very much to everyone who

872
00:39:31,213 --> 00:39:34,133
Speaker 4: phoned and text on that one. Coming up after two o'clock.

873
00:39:34,493 --> 00:39:37,613
Speaker 4: A lot more couples and women are not having children.

874
00:39:37,653 --> 00:39:39,053
Speaker 4: And if that's you, we want to have a chat

875
00:39:39,053 --> 00:39:40,573
Speaker 4: with you. O what one hundred eighty ten eighties and

876
00:39:40,613 --> 00:39:42,813
Speaker 4: number to call? Why that's coming up?

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Speaker 1: Talking with you all afternoon. It's Matt Heathen, Taylor Adams

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Speaker 1: Afternoons News Talks.

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Speaker 4: It'd be afternoon to you. Welcome back into the show.

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Speaker 4: Great to have your company is always seven past too.

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Speaker 4: So an interesting article in the papers today and it's

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Speaker 4: about the number of women and couples in New Zealand

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Speaker 4: who are deciding not to have children. So fertility rates,

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Speaker 4: as we know, are at record low. There are economic

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Speaker 4: pressures out there, and the child free movement has been

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Speaker 4: gaining momentum in New Zealand. According to this article, so

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Speaker 4: it spoke to a number of Kiwi women about their

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Speaker 4: reasons for not having children, and the reasons, as you

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Speaker 4: can imagine, were quite variable. Some were worried about climate

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Speaker 4: change and they didn't want to bring a child into

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Speaker 4: a world that they feared might come to an end

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Speaker 4: at some stage, which is kind of a weird.

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Speaker 2: That's an interesting one. I mean, humans have been having

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Speaker 2: children in challenging times for all of humanity's history. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and you know change, climate's changing. But we're just talking

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Speaker 2: about Iceland before people are up there. Yeah, and people

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Speaker 2: live in the Saharo. Humans can live in a lot

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Speaker 2: of different climates.

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Speaker 3: That is very true, very true.

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Speaker 4: Many mentioned the cost of living, saying that they didn't

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Speaker 4: feel they could afford to bring up a child at

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Speaker 4: the moment, and many said they just did not want to,

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Speaker 4: They preferred or they really liked their life without children.

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Speaker 4: It meant that they could focus on their career. And

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Speaker 4: for the women spoken to in the story, they just

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Speaker 4: didn't have that maternal instinct. That was never something that

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Speaker 4: they felt when the pressure was on them at an

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Speaker 4: earlier age to say when are you going to have children?

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Speaker 4: They just never felt that maternal instinct.

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Speaker 2: It's interesting, isn't that?

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Speaker 11: So?

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Speaker 2: Are you concerned about this? That's our one point five

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Speaker 2: to six berths per woman fertility rate. Are you concerned

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Speaker 2: about that? If you chosen not to have a child.

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Speaker 2: Be interesting to hear? Why. I mean, it's one hundred

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Speaker 2: percent up to you if you want to have a

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Speaker 2: child or not. Yeah, why, it's interesting that you don't

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Speaker 2: feel very maternal. And look, it's different for males. But

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Speaker 2: I wasn't a very paternal or nurturing person before I

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Speaker 2: had children. Never. I was never one that when google

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Speaker 2: over babies. In fact, I believe that the first baby

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Speaker 2: I ever held maybe my little sister when I was three.

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Speaker 2: They might have let me held.

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Speaker 3: Her briefly, yep, but briefly.

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Speaker 2: But I don't think i'd ever held a baby until

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Speaker 2: I was handed my firstborn son. And then I tell

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Speaker 2: you what there was there's a whole lot of paternal

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Speaker 2: instinct that kicked in hardcore from then to the point

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Speaker 2: where I'd say that my two sons and being a

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Speaker 2: dad is the most important thing to my identity, and

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Speaker 2: you know, my kids are the thing I'm most proud of.

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Speaker 2: So I went from not giving a crap about kids

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Speaker 2: and babies and cute stuff to just being full on

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Speaker 2: dad mood.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: So, what happened when when you held your firstborn for

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Speaker 4: the first time? Was it almost like a switch went off?

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Speaker 2: Or I mean when you had the when I had

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Speaker 2: the first kid. Yeah, it's a weird thing because it's

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Speaker 2: not exactly like that. It's not like you suddenly go boom,

941
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Speaker 2: but sort of that happens over time. But what it

942
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Speaker 2: does give you, and I believe what having a child

943
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Speaker 2: gives you is for the first time in your life,

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Speaker 2: you would happily give up your life for another being.

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Speaker 2: If you're in a situation and this may sound dramatic,

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Speaker 2: Let's say you're on a sinking ship and you had

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Speaker 2: an opportunity to hand your child up to the boat

948
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Speaker 2: and so you sink and die, you would happily do

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Speaker 2: that for your child. And that's the first time. I know,

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Speaker 2: it's a very clear feeling that you would with glee,

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Speaker 2: go my God, think, thank goodness, I got to save

952
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Speaker 2: my child. You know, you wouldn't even think about it.

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Speaker 2: So I think that's that's a big change. But and

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Speaker 2: the other thing is you go, well, look, my purpose

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Speaker 2: in my experience, this is my experience is different for

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Speaker 2: other people, but in my experience, it suddenly gives you

957
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Speaker 2: a focus. You go, well, I've got to go and

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Speaker 2: make some money so this person can live in a

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Speaker 2: house and can be feared.

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Speaker 3: It's a lovely thing.

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Speaker 2: And then so that the clarity of focus is quite

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Speaker 2: good to go, oh, this is why I work, you know, yeah,

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Speaker 2: this is why I go to work, you know, forty

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Speaker 2: fifty hours a week.

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Speaker 4: Their purpose and motivation. I've got to look after this

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Speaker 4: little human being. What I got to say is, you know,

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Speaker 4: I'm almost forty, and I think I mentioned on the

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Speaker 4: show before that ideally love to have children, and we're

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Speaker 4: working through that process. But a lot of the baby

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Speaker 4: check comes up in friend circles. And it's pretty clear

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Speaker 4: now I'd say probably forty percent of our friend circle

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Speaker 4: have to that they're not that fust on having children.

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Speaker 4: And one very close friend, Acshley, she has made a

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Speaker 4: point that says, no matter what, she just does not

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Speaker 4: want children. So whether I don't know if it's the

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Speaker 4: maternal thing never never flicked a switch. But she just

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Speaker 4: she loves her life now. She loves her career, She

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Speaker 4: loves the ability to travel, she loves the ability to

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Speaker 4: not have that responsibility of looking after a child in

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Speaker 4: her life. And she is incredibly comfortable with that decision,

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Speaker 4: which I find incredibly interesting, And I imagine it sounds

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Speaker 4: like there's a lot more people out there who are

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Speaker 4: starting to think like that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's an interesting one because I mean I'd be

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Speaker 2: interested to hear from people on O eight undred eighty

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Speaker 2: ten eighty who didn't think that they would have the

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Speaker 2: maternal instinct or the parental instinct and then that changed massively. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: because until it's your child, I mean, before I had children,

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Speaker 2: aren't you know it's your child's very different from children

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Speaker 2: in general, you know what I mean, when the responsible

991
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Speaker 2: he's put on you, I feel like a lot of

992
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Speaker 2: stuff comes into play here. This stix says, I wouldn't

993
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Speaker 2: want to entrap children in lifetime of work in slavery

994
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Speaker 2: and government programming that we all have to deal with.

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Speaker 4: Well, I mean that is quite a full on outlook

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Speaker 4: on life.

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Speaker 2: But I just think about my son as he goes

998
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Speaker 2: to university, and it seems to be having the best

999
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Speaker 2: time you can possibly imagine. I don't know, I don't

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Speaker 2: know if he's looking at this life in those terms.

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Speaker 2: I think he's I think he's got it pretty good,

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Speaker 2: to be honest.

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Speaker 4: Love and life at the moment. Oh eight one hundred

1004
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Speaker 4: eighty ten eighty. If you've decided not to have kids,

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Speaker 4: would really like to have a chat with you. Why,

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Speaker 4: What were the reasons? And if you thought you were

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Speaker 4: never going to have children and then one came along,

1008
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Speaker 4: maybe it was a surprise. Did that change you were thinking?

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Speaker 11: This?

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Speaker 2: Texas says, So you're saying that you wouldn't give up

1011
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Speaker 2: your life for your partner, because I said I would

1012
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Speaker 2: happily give up my life a cat. That's a really

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Speaker 2: interesting thing, and it might be a trick of biology, but.

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Speaker 3: I'm say it, say it.

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Speaker 2: I don't know about that one.

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Speaker 4: The hesitation. Maybe i'd run.

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Speaker 2: Into a burning fire.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, you do it, but maybe not with a

1019
00:46:14,493 --> 00:46:15,252
Speaker 4: smile on your face.

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Speaker 2: It's not as clear in my head. But probably push

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Speaker 2: push comes to shop, I probably would.

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Speaker 4: All right, good news it is that pass.

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Speaker 1: To your home of afternoon talk, mad Heathen Taylor Adams

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Speaker 1: afternoons call eight hundred eighty ten eighty US talk said,

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Speaker 1: be for.

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Speaker 4: A good afternoons you at sixteen past two. So a

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Speaker 4: number increasing number of New Zealand women and it's the

1028
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Speaker 4: same around the globe of choosing not to have children

1029
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Speaker 4: at greater rates than it's ever happened. And the question

1030
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Speaker 4: of puts you is, if you've decided not to have

1031
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Speaker 4: children in your life, what was the reason?

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Speaker 2: What about the dudes? There must be a bunch of

1033
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Speaker 2: dudes that are choosing not to have children. I've got

1034
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Speaker 2: a bunch of mates that are male that have chosen

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Speaker 2: not to have children.

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Speaker 3: It's a very good point.

1037
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Speaker 2: Actually, have they chosen not to have children? I'm not

1038
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Speaker 2: sure they just haven't. I've never really asked them. We

1039
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Speaker 2: live in the hardest, grimmest times. Really, our leaders don't

1040
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Speaker 2: care about us. How could you have a child? How

1041
00:47:07,253 --> 00:47:10,093
Speaker 2: cruel to bring them into the world. That's before you

1042
00:47:10,173 --> 00:47:12,453
Speaker 2: bring in the damage they will do to the planet

1043
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Speaker 2: across their lives. Children, No, thank you, not fear on them,

1044
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Speaker 2: me or the planet. We definitely don't live in the

1045
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Speaker 2: hardest times. No, I mean you should look up some

1046
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Speaker 2: of the other years in history. We actually arguably live

1047
00:47:24,053 --> 00:47:27,853
Speaker 2: in the easiest times that humanity has ever lived in. Yeah.

1048
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Speaker 4: Yes, so you've hit the jackpot in life, really considering

1049
00:47:31,253 --> 00:47:33,933
Speaker 4: what we've got around arts and and how good most

1050
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Speaker 4: of our lives are.

1051
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Speaker 2: Quite right, what's the worst year in history? I'll look

1052
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Speaker 2: that up. It's five sixty was it five sixty seven?

1053
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Speaker 2: I'll read some of the details that's coming around. Yeah, Nicole,

1054
00:47:43,333 --> 00:47:44,053
Speaker 2: welcome to the show.

1055
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Speaker 23: Thank you.

1056
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Speaker 5: Hi.

1057
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Speaker 4: How are you pretty good?

1058
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Speaker 23: Thanks?

1059
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Speaker 3: How are you very good?

1060
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Speaker 2: So have you chosen not to have children? Is that correct? Nicole?

1061
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Speaker 23: Yeah, my own children. I'm open to adoption leader in life,

1062
00:48:01,133 --> 00:48:03,253
Speaker 23: but yeah, I don't want my own children.

1063
00:48:04,053 --> 00:48:06,413
Speaker 2: And why is that? It sounds like you've made a

1064
00:48:06,493 --> 00:48:09,133
Speaker 2: conscious decision there. Why is that? What are you? What's

1065
00:48:09,133 --> 00:48:11,013
Speaker 2: your raisoning there? I mean, it's absolutely up to you.

1066
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Speaker 2: But what are your thoughts on it?

1067
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Speaker 6: Well?

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Speaker 23: I have a long list, actually, but I think a

1069
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Speaker 23: lot of it was based on how I was brought up.

1070
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Speaker 23: I had I have multiple siblings, I have multiple step siblings,

1071
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Speaker 23: and I grew up with my mother looking after all

1072
00:48:32,733 --> 00:48:36,253
Speaker 23: the neighborhood kids. So my house was always very noisy,

1073
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Speaker 23: very chaotic, with lots of children. It was you know,

1074
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Speaker 23: a lot of fun, but it was you know, you

1075
00:48:43,213 --> 00:48:48,172
Speaker 23: had to share everything, nothing was your own. And then

1076
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Speaker 23: when I was a teenager, my mom had my youngest brother,

1077
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Speaker 23: and I've been helping look after him since then, and

1078
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Speaker 23: he's about to turn seventeen. He's just gotten his learners.

1079
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Speaker 23: I drive him everywhere. I kind of feel like I've already,

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Speaker 23: you know, been a parent as much as I can be.

1081
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Speaker 23: I'm in my early thirties and I just really want

1082
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Speaker 23: a break before I even would consider having my own

1083
00:49:15,813 --> 00:49:17,213
Speaker 23: kid personally.

1084
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Speaker 4: So the idea of adoption later in life, Nicole, you

1085
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Speaker 4: don't want your own children, Why does that appeal to you?

1086
00:49:27,733 --> 00:49:32,493
Speaker 23: Why does adoption appeal to me? Yeah, I just never

1087
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Speaker 23: felt the need to have my own kid. I think

1088
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Speaker 23: a lot of people feel like, or what I've heard is,

1089
00:49:38,653 --> 00:49:41,253
Speaker 23: you know, they want a little mini me, they want

1090
00:49:41,253 --> 00:49:44,493
Speaker 23: a little version of themselves and things like that. But

1091
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Speaker 23: I never felt the need to have my own child.

1092
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Speaker 23: I could love a child even if it wasn't biologically mine.

1093
00:49:52,893 --> 00:49:55,692
Speaker 23: So I feel like, if you have that capability, why

1094
00:49:55,733 --> 00:49:58,973
Speaker 23: not help a kid that's already out there and needs

1095
00:49:59,053 --> 00:50:02,772
Speaker 23: somebody like instead of, you know, just bring me another one.

1096
00:50:02,773 --> 00:50:07,853
Speaker 23: In yourself. So I'd rather help one that's already you know.

1097
00:50:08,413 --> 00:50:13,053
Speaker 2: Lovely philosophy and you're going to have you ever investigated

1098
00:50:13,973 --> 00:50:15,973
Speaker 2: that that pathway?

1099
00:50:16,533 --> 00:50:18,652
Speaker 23: I did look it up online a few years ago.

1100
00:50:18,773 --> 00:50:21,173
Speaker 23: It is a quite lengthy process. It depends if you

1101
00:50:21,173 --> 00:50:25,293
Speaker 23: go to domestic or international. You're looking at quite a

1102
00:50:25,333 --> 00:50:27,613
Speaker 23: few fees. I think for internationalists they say that you

1103
00:50:27,613 --> 00:50:30,613
Speaker 23: could spend anywhere between you else upwards of ten thousand

1104
00:50:30,693 --> 00:50:33,813
Speaker 23: dollars or even more depending, So it's you know, it's

1105
00:50:33,813 --> 00:50:35,533
Speaker 23: not cheap, and it's not a short process.

1106
00:50:35,653 --> 00:50:35,733
Speaker 6: Ye.

1107
00:50:36,893 --> 00:50:40,373
Speaker 23: I still feel like that's a much better option, and

1108
00:50:40,533 --> 00:50:43,693
Speaker 23: also you don't have to stress about I think a

1109
00:50:43,733 --> 00:50:46,773
Speaker 23: lot of women you get told constantly and reminded by

1110
00:50:46,853 --> 00:50:51,933
Speaker 23: society that your biological clock is ticking. So that's always

1111
00:50:51,973 --> 00:50:54,493
Speaker 23: an option if you would like to adopt as well.

1112
00:50:55,173 --> 00:50:58,813
Speaker 4: To avoid those conversations when people ask you, Nicole, why

1113
00:50:58,853 --> 00:51:01,173
Speaker 4: haven't you had kids? Or when are you going to

1114
00:51:01,253 --> 00:51:03,573
Speaker 4: have kids? Do you try and steer away from those

1115
00:51:03,573 --> 00:51:05,213
Speaker 4: conversations or you're pretty upfront?

1116
00:51:07,093 --> 00:51:10,213
Speaker 23: I honestly, I don't really get ask too much now.

1117
00:51:11,173 --> 00:51:14,652
Speaker 23: The main person that asks is my mother, and she's

1118
00:51:14,653 --> 00:51:17,333
Speaker 23: been asking and bugging me to give her a grandchild

1119
00:51:17,333 --> 00:51:22,373
Speaker 23: for about twelve years, so I try to change the subject.

1120
00:51:22,613 --> 00:51:25,733
Speaker 23: I've told her multiple times I'm not having children, but

1121
00:51:26,453 --> 00:51:30,533
Speaker 23: she's just aby crazy. She's always loved kids, so I understand.

1122
00:51:30,693 --> 00:51:35,373
Speaker 23: But she's always bugging me more than my other multiple siblings.

1123
00:51:35,533 --> 00:51:37,652
Speaker 23: So I don't know if she just knows that her

1124
00:51:37,773 --> 00:51:41,493
Speaker 23: teats me, or or she thinks I'm the most maternal.

1125
00:51:41,653 --> 00:51:44,373
Speaker 23: I really don't know, but yeah, I try to change

1126
00:51:44,373 --> 00:51:44,933
Speaker 23: the subject.

1127
00:51:45,173 --> 00:51:48,093
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's an interesting one, isn't that? Because I mean

1128
00:51:48,133 --> 00:51:50,893
Speaker 2: I can mention a mother bringing it up, but I

1129
00:51:50,933 --> 00:51:53,653
Speaker 2: certainly can't imagine bringing it up with someone. No, not

1130
00:51:54,253 --> 00:51:55,692
Speaker 2: just going up to a friend that has a kids

1131
00:51:55,693 --> 00:51:58,293
Speaker 2: and going why don't you have kids? Yeah, I mean,

1132
00:51:58,613 --> 00:52:01,573
Speaker 2: but people people that don't have kids, and woman as

1133
00:52:01,973 --> 00:52:04,573
Speaker 2: Nicholsi's the biological clock, say that they feel that pressure

1134
00:52:04,653 --> 00:52:07,573
Speaker 2: all the time, and people feel like people are bringing

1135
00:52:07,693 --> 00:52:09,533
Speaker 2: up all the time. Who would bring it up?

1136
00:52:09,853 --> 00:52:10,413
Speaker 3: I've seen it.

1137
00:52:10,493 --> 00:52:13,373
Speaker 4: I mean it's usually when you're on the drink and

1138
00:52:13,413 --> 00:52:16,732
Speaker 4: then someone so someone's had a few wines and they'll

1139
00:52:16,773 --> 00:52:19,253
Speaker 4: come up to one of the friend group who doesn't

1140
00:52:19,253 --> 00:52:20,933
Speaker 4: have children and they've had a very good.

1141
00:52:20,773 --> 00:52:22,213
Speaker 3: Career and then I'll hear it.

1142
00:52:22,253 --> 00:52:24,613
Speaker 4: I'll hear it across the table and say, so when

1143
00:52:24,613 --> 00:52:27,853
Speaker 4: you getting married, when you must be having kids soon?

1144
00:52:28,053 --> 00:52:30,773
Speaker 2: Is that simes ticking? Is that dude on dude or

1145
00:52:31,893 --> 00:52:34,093
Speaker 2: or woman on woman?

1146
00:52:34,173 --> 00:52:34,893
Speaker 3: Woman on woman?

1147
00:52:35,053 --> 00:52:37,253
Speaker 4: Usually I'd say, I don't want to be unfair here,

1148
00:52:37,293 --> 00:52:39,333
Speaker 4: but probably eighty percent of the time it's woman on woman.

1149
00:52:39,493 --> 00:52:41,533
Speaker 4: Might no higher than that. Actually, you're quite right.

1150
00:52:41,693 --> 00:52:43,172
Speaker 2: If I was at a bar and I went up

1151
00:52:43,213 --> 00:52:45,013
Speaker 2: to one of my friends that has ned kids, and

1152
00:52:45,053 --> 00:52:47,453
Speaker 2: I said to her, why having your head kids yet,

1153
00:52:48,013 --> 00:52:51,573
Speaker 2: I would expect to get a glass of wine thrown

1154
00:52:51,773 --> 00:52:52,172
Speaker 2: my face.

1155
00:52:53,213 --> 00:52:55,172
Speaker 4: Oh eight one hundred eighty ten eighty is the number

1156
00:52:55,213 --> 00:52:56,853
Speaker 4: to call, Nicole, Thank you very much for your phone.

1157
00:52:56,853 --> 00:52:57,893
Speaker 4: Well really enjoyed that chair.

1158
00:52:58,093 --> 00:53:00,172
Speaker 2: Iike's the poor person earlier text thing that the world

1159
00:53:00,213 --> 00:53:02,813
Speaker 2: is too awful for children, such a sad outlook. It's

1160
00:53:02,853 --> 00:53:05,613
Speaker 2: the climate change ideology that a lot of our young

1161
00:53:05,693 --> 00:53:08,733
Speaker 2: have been raised to believe self extinction of the West

1162
00:53:08,853 --> 00:53:13,013
Speaker 2: via misplaced guilt. Yeah, nice means And that year that

1163
00:53:13,133 --> 00:53:15,053
Speaker 2: was the worst year ever of people because that person

1164
00:53:15,133 --> 00:53:17,013
Speaker 2: was saying before that we live in the hardest time ever.

1165
00:53:17,453 --> 00:53:21,732
Speaker 2: Look up five thirty six ad that was a bad year.

1166
00:53:22,253 --> 00:53:24,732
Speaker 2: That was a bad year. Eighteen months of darkness after

1167
00:53:24,773 --> 00:53:27,693
Speaker 2: a volcano in an Iceland. Yeah, terrible.

1168
00:53:27,813 --> 00:53:29,853
Speaker 4: When you told me to look that up about six

1169
00:53:29,853 --> 00:53:31,693
Speaker 4: months ago, that was grim. That was grim reading.

1170
00:53:31,733 --> 00:53:32,453
Speaker 3: That was a tough year.

1171
00:53:32,893 --> 00:53:37,253
Speaker 2: Mysterious fog, crop failure and famine, societal collapse. Come out

1172
00:53:37,253 --> 00:53:39,173
Speaker 2: the back of it. Get the plague. Terrible.

1173
00:53:39,333 --> 00:53:40,933
Speaker 4: Twenty twenty five is a pretty good year.

1174
00:53:41,533 --> 00:53:43,573
Speaker 2: Why loove thirty six? Bad time to have kids?

1175
00:53:43,653 --> 00:53:45,773
Speaker 4: Yeah, if you've decided not to have kids, really can

1176
00:53:45,813 --> 00:53:47,293
Speaker 4: never check with you. Oh, eight hundred and eighty ten

1177
00:53:47,293 --> 00:53:49,293
Speaker 4: eight years a number to call. It's twenty three plus two.

1178
00:53:50,053 --> 00:53:52,813
Speaker 2: Up to seventy percent of New Zealand's greenhouse gas emissions

1179
00:53:52,853 --> 00:53:56,173
Speaker 2: come from transport, so going electric is one promising method

1180
00:53:56,253 --> 00:53:58,453
Speaker 2: of moving to a lower, lower carbon future.

1181
00:53:58,453 --> 00:54:01,253
Speaker 4: In out and with a Genesis EV plan, you can

1182
00:54:01,293 --> 00:54:05,013
Speaker 4: get fifty percent of how good off your variable day

1183
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Speaker 4: rate between nine pm and seven am, so you can

1184
00:54:07,253 --> 00:54:09,893
Speaker 4: charge your EV I think the heating up, run the dryer,

1185
00:54:09,973 --> 00:54:10,933
Speaker 4: all at a reduced rate.

1186
00:54:10,933 --> 00:54:13,893
Speaker 2: Plus, Genesis Energy has partnered with New Zealand's largest EV

1187
00:54:14,053 --> 00:54:16,613
Speaker 2: charging network, charge Nets, so going on the road doesn't

1188
00:54:16,653 --> 00:54:18,093
Speaker 2: need to make you nervous.

1189
00:54:18,213 --> 00:54:20,692
Speaker 4: Genesis customers can charge at one of charge nets four

1190
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1191
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Speaker 4: home through the Genesis Bill.

1192
00:54:24,693 --> 00:54:28,333
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1193
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1194
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1195
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1196
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1197
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Speaker 1: Mad Heathen Tyler Adams afternoons call oh eight hundred eighty

1198
00:54:47,413 --> 00:54:50,293
Speaker 1: ten eighty on News Talks V very good afternoons.

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00:54:50,333 --> 00:54:52,693
Speaker 4: You are you right there? Mate?

1200
00:54:52,573 --> 00:54:52,692
Speaker 6: Ye?

1201
00:54:53,373 --> 00:54:54,732
Speaker 3: It was a big gold of man shake.

1202
00:54:54,853 --> 00:54:57,333
Speaker 2: It's truth the wrong.

1203
00:54:57,413 --> 00:54:59,293
Speaker 3: Don't die me mate, Yeah, yeah right.

1204
00:54:59,373 --> 00:55:03,373
Speaker 4: We are talking about the reduced fertility rate in New Zealand.

1205
00:55:03,413 --> 00:55:05,453
Speaker 4: And there's an article this morning talking to a bunch

1206
00:55:05,533 --> 00:55:07,933
Speaker 4: of women are in New Zealand who have decided not

1207
00:55:08,013 --> 00:55:11,253
Speaker 4: to have children for various reasons. Sometimes it's the cost

1208
00:55:11,293 --> 00:55:13,933
Speaker 4: of living and they think they can't afford a child,

1209
00:55:14,013 --> 00:55:15,773
Speaker 4: but a lot of them just do not want to

1210
00:55:15,813 --> 00:55:16,373
Speaker 4: have children.

1211
00:55:16,413 --> 00:55:18,493
Speaker 2: The Texas says, my husband and I decided we don't

1212
00:55:18,493 --> 00:55:24,653
Speaker 2: want kids. We're telling them tonight, Adam, welcome to show.

1213
00:55:25,693 --> 00:55:26,453
Speaker 5: Get a guys.

1214
00:55:26,533 --> 00:55:29,893
Speaker 24: Hey, great topics, so relevant and very interesting.

1215
00:55:30,253 --> 00:55:30,573
Speaker 2: Thanks Ed.

1216
00:55:32,093 --> 00:55:36,333
Speaker 24: It certainly is the best time ever in human history

1217
00:55:36,373 --> 00:55:38,733
Speaker 24: to be alive. I can't believe that text you got earlier.

1218
00:55:38,973 --> 00:55:41,813
Speaker 2: It's concerned that people can't see that. It worries me.

1219
00:55:43,053 --> 00:55:46,053
Speaker 24: It really is. But then we come to why me

1220
00:55:46,133 --> 00:55:50,773
Speaker 24: and my partner historically were staunchly against having kids, and

1221
00:55:51,893 --> 00:55:55,253
Speaker 24: we seriously got sucked into the modern rhetoric that has

1222
00:55:55,373 --> 00:55:57,573
Speaker 24: fed to us all that the world's ending because of

1223
00:55:57,613 --> 00:56:01,693
Speaker 24: the climate, and it just leaves you with a feeling

1224
00:56:01,733 --> 00:56:06,133
Speaker 24: of why would I bring someone into this world? Among

1225
00:56:06,173 --> 00:56:14,213
Speaker 24: other things like cost of living, historic housing situation like renting,

1226
00:56:14,253 --> 00:56:17,093
Speaker 24: the potential to move at a moment's notice. It doesn't

1227
00:56:17,133 --> 00:56:20,733
Speaker 24: exactly leave you with a whole lot of confidence. But

1228
00:56:21,133 --> 00:56:24,453
Speaker 24: at the age of twenty nine, we're in our We're

1229
00:56:24,453 --> 00:56:27,453
Speaker 24: in our own home now, and I've a I've got

1230
00:56:27,453 --> 00:56:31,733
Speaker 24: a fantastic career. And a few years ago, my grandfather

1231
00:56:31,933 --> 00:56:35,093
Speaker 24: was on his deathbed dying of cancer, and of course

1232
00:56:35,173 --> 00:56:38,053
Speaker 24: cancer being slow and drawn out and as ugly as

1233
00:56:38,093 --> 00:56:41,453
Speaker 24: it is, he was surrounded by family and love the

1234
00:56:41,573 --> 00:56:45,453
Speaker 24: entire time, and you can't help it. Put yourself in

1235
00:56:46,413 --> 00:56:49,133
Speaker 24: his shoes when you're when you're watching that happen, and

1236
00:56:50,453 --> 00:56:54,013
Speaker 24: a little switch flipped in my head that basically said,

1237
00:56:54,373 --> 00:56:57,093
Speaker 24: what about when you're that age and you're dying of cancer.

1238
00:56:57,293 --> 00:57:02,493
Speaker 24: So with coming to grips with the reality that the

1239
00:57:02,493 --> 00:57:05,853
Speaker 24: world's not ending because of the climate, and sitting in

1240
00:57:05,893 --> 00:57:08,053
Speaker 24: a good house, in a good career. We're expecting our

1241
00:57:08,093 --> 00:57:09,213
Speaker 24: firm next January.

1242
00:57:10,173 --> 00:57:13,172
Speaker 2: Oh well, congratulations, thank you very much.

1243
00:57:14,733 --> 00:57:20,773
Speaker 24: But it's very interesting and we certainly historically just really

1244
00:57:20,773 --> 00:57:23,333
Speaker 24: didn't want kids. We enjoyed money, we enjoyed our time,

1245
00:57:23,453 --> 00:57:28,053
Speaker 24: we've been traveling, and now we're expecting one. We couldn't

1246
00:57:28,053 --> 00:57:31,893
Speaker 24: imagine not having one. Now all the little magic moments

1247
00:57:31,933 --> 00:57:36,173
Speaker 24: are happening, and as a belly's growing and we just

1248
00:57:36,213 --> 00:57:36,733
Speaker 24: can't wait.

1249
00:57:37,253 --> 00:57:40,693
Speaker 2: It's funny. Congratulations, that's that's fantastic, and sorry to hear

1250
00:57:40,693 --> 00:57:43,853
Speaker 2: about your dad. It's interesting the one about finances and

1251
00:57:43,853 --> 00:57:46,693
Speaker 2: people saying they can't afford a kid, because for me,

1252
00:57:46,773 --> 00:57:49,133
Speaker 2: when I first had a kid, I suddenly became very

1253
00:57:49,133 --> 00:57:51,493
Speaker 2: focused on making money, more than I had ever been before,

1254
00:57:51,893 --> 00:57:55,813
Speaker 2: and so I think it actually motivated me because me

1255
00:57:55,853 --> 00:57:57,493
Speaker 2: and my partner, we were just happy to eat fish

1256
00:57:57,493 --> 00:58:01,093
Speaker 2: and chips, and live in you know, average places, and

1257
00:58:01,213 --> 00:58:03,253
Speaker 2: you know, travel around and all that kind of stuff.

1258
00:58:03,253 --> 00:58:06,173
Speaker 2: But I never actually had the motivation to seriously make

1259
00:58:06,253 --> 00:58:08,533
Speaker 2: some money to try and set up someone. You know,

1260
00:58:09,213 --> 00:58:13,173
Speaker 2: it can change your mindset such that you do make money.

1261
00:58:13,213 --> 00:58:15,133
Speaker 2: Do you see what I'm saying in them?

1262
00:58:15,613 --> 00:58:20,653
Speaker 24: Certainly I do, absolutely, And certainly now I'm very comfany

1263
00:58:20,693 --> 00:58:22,653
Speaker 24: in my job and I'll go with the flow of

1264
00:58:22,933 --> 00:58:26,013
Speaker 24: go with the flow of my career. But now with

1265
00:58:26,173 --> 00:58:28,013
Speaker 24: a child on the way, I'm looking at the size

1266
00:58:28,013 --> 00:58:30,013
Speaker 24: of my house and I'm thinking, oh, what would I

1267
00:58:30,013 --> 00:58:33,253
Speaker 24: need to be on to upside? And now I'm having

1268
00:58:33,253 --> 00:58:37,933
Speaker 24: those having those thought processes to where can I go

1269
00:58:38,493 --> 00:58:42,373
Speaker 24: where I'm making even bigger money to support that family

1270
00:58:42,413 --> 00:58:44,693
Speaker 24: that I'm about to have and give them the space

1271
00:58:44,853 --> 00:58:48,653
Speaker 24: to breathe and grow. So certainly I agree.

1272
00:58:48,733 --> 00:58:50,933
Speaker 2: And it certainly makes sense for me. This is just

1273
00:58:50,933 --> 00:58:53,613
Speaker 2: from my perspective, and everyone's different, obviously, but from my perspective,

1274
00:58:53,933 --> 00:58:56,253
Speaker 2: it makes more sense to be working fifty hours a

1275
00:58:56,253 --> 00:58:58,973
Speaker 2: week and look, you know, someone's going to look after

1276
00:58:58,973 --> 00:59:00,893
Speaker 2: the kids, and it gets very complicated with the working

1277
00:59:00,933 --> 00:59:03,213
Speaker 2: and all that kind of stuff. But if you have

1278
00:59:03,253 --> 00:59:05,773
Speaker 2: a direct reason to be working. You go, well, this

1279
00:59:06,013 --> 00:59:11,213
Speaker 2: is securing my child's future. So I found it very motivating,

1280
00:59:11,613 --> 00:59:13,333
Speaker 2: you know, because I was just wanting to basically live

1281
00:59:13,373 --> 00:59:16,733
Speaker 2: on the street. I'd be quite happy to a certain extent,

1282
00:59:16,773 --> 00:59:18,493
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, till till I had someone

1283
00:59:18,973 --> 00:59:21,653
Speaker 2: till how old did you say you were, Adam twenty nine?

1284
00:59:21,693 --> 00:59:23,493
Speaker 1: Did you say twenty nine?

1285
00:59:23,533 --> 00:59:24,493
Speaker 24: And my partner's thirty.

1286
00:59:24,613 --> 00:59:26,333
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean, and it might just be a

1287
00:59:26,373 --> 00:59:28,853
Speaker 2: function of become getting a little bit older as well,

1288
00:59:29,053 --> 00:59:31,173
Speaker 2: because I mean it's you know, and I know back

1289
00:59:31,213 --> 00:59:33,573
Speaker 2: in the day, you sort of just had kids by

1290
00:59:33,573 --> 00:59:35,853
Speaker 2: a matter of course, you know, you know, for the

1291
00:59:35,853 --> 00:59:38,333
Speaker 2: longest time in our history, kids just sort of started

1292
00:59:38,373 --> 00:59:40,493
Speaker 2: coming around. You're twenty one. But now that we make

1293
00:59:40,533 --> 00:59:46,333
Speaker 2: a decision to have kids, contraception coming in and such

1294
00:59:47,013 --> 00:59:51,333
Speaker 2: over the last one hundred years, fifty years, particularly sixty

1295
00:59:51,453 --> 00:59:55,653
Speaker 2: seventy years, you know, you just started having kids, so

1296
00:59:55,693 --> 00:59:58,173
Speaker 2: before you even thought about it. But maybe you weren't

1297
00:59:58,173 --> 01:00:01,613
Speaker 2: even change things. Yeah, so you would have been going

1298
01:00:01,653 --> 01:00:03,333
Speaker 2: through that stage when you're twenty one, twenty two, up

1299
01:00:03,373 --> 01:00:05,773
Speaker 2: to twenty five, you're like, well, you know, you're not

1300
01:00:05,813 --> 01:00:07,453
Speaker 2: really in that mindset yet, you.

1301
01:00:07,373 --> 01:00:10,133
Speaker 24: Know, Oh no, way, no way, And it just it

1302
01:00:10,253 --> 01:00:13,933
Speaker 24: just wouldn't have happened. We were educated, we know how

1303
01:00:13,973 --> 01:00:16,173
Speaker 24: to be safe. It just wasn't even on the cards.

1304
01:00:16,293 --> 01:00:17,253
Speaker 24: Wasn't a thought process.

1305
01:00:17,853 --> 01:00:19,213
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1306
01:00:19,293 --> 01:00:21,533
Speaker 24: But as you say, when you get older, things change,

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01:00:21,573 --> 01:00:25,213
Speaker 24: and certainly as you learn more about the world. And

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01:00:25,413 --> 01:00:30,333
Speaker 24: I'm a bit of a science geek, and when I

1309
01:00:30,333 --> 01:00:33,733
Speaker 24: I followed a rabbit hole of research about the planets

1310
01:00:33,773 --> 01:00:36,253
Speaker 24: and the climate and realized it was all absolute bollocks

1311
01:00:36,253 --> 01:00:38,053
Speaker 24: that just fed to us to keep us watching the

1312
01:00:38,133 --> 01:00:42,013
Speaker 24: news and keep us scared. The climate's not going anywhere,

1313
01:00:42,053 --> 01:00:43,213
Speaker 24: the planet's not going anywhere.

1314
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Speaker 1: We're fine.

1315
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Speaker 24: And that in conjunction with with my my my family tragedy,

1316
01:00:51,293 --> 01:00:54,213
Speaker 24: it just a switch flipped and was like, I've so

1317
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Speaker 24: much loved to give. What's the meaning of life? To

1318
01:00:57,013 --> 01:00:58,933
Speaker 24: live and to love as much as you can? And

1319
01:00:58,973 --> 01:01:00,693
Speaker 24: how can you love more than having a family?

1320
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Speaker 3: So sure, Yeah, what an insight.

1321
01:01:03,733 --> 01:01:03,893
Speaker 5: Yeah.

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01:01:03,933 --> 01:01:05,613
Speaker 2: And when people say that it's a terrible place, I

1323
01:01:05,653 --> 01:01:07,613
Speaker 2: mean I always go back to, like say, the Punic Wars,

1324
01:01:07,653 --> 01:01:10,773
Speaker 2: you know, when Rome and Carthage were fighting each other. Yeah,

1325
01:01:10,813 --> 01:01:13,613
Speaker 2: I mean that would be when you actually actually know

1326
01:01:13,733 --> 01:01:18,053
Speaker 2: that a nearby state city, state in these cases. Actually

1327
01:01:18,053 --> 01:01:19,733
Speaker 2: they're trying to kill you, and that's their thing to

1328
01:01:19,773 --> 01:01:22,453
Speaker 2: both kill you, burn everyone to the ground, and burn

1329
01:01:22,493 --> 01:01:23,373
Speaker 2: your whole city to the ground.

1330
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean that they would suck to be alive

1331
01:01:25,373 --> 01:01:27,693
Speaker 4: then having to face that on a daily basis.

1332
01:01:27,413 --> 01:01:29,813
Speaker 2: As opposed to this person that's texting and from PONSB

1333
01:01:29,933 --> 01:01:33,213
Speaker 2: saying that they're living the hardest time of Yeah, hard

1334
01:01:33,413 --> 01:01:34,253
Speaker 2: times in history.

1335
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Speaker 4: But I'll tell you what won't be good for humanity

1336
01:01:36,253 --> 01:01:38,413
Speaker 4: if we stop having babies. You can guarantee that that

1337
01:01:38,453 --> 01:01:41,253
Speaker 4: if we stop having babies, there is no more humanity eventually.

1338
01:01:41,333 --> 01:01:45,093
Speaker 2: Oh, listen to you bloody handmaid's tale, trying to force

1339
01:01:45,173 --> 01:01:47,173
Speaker 2: women to have babies they don't want, just so that

1340
01:01:47,453 --> 01:01:49,773
Speaker 2: they can work and pay for your retirement.

1341
01:01:49,893 --> 01:01:51,733
Speaker 4: Tyler didn't say that.

1342
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Speaker 3: Oh eight hundred and eight two.

1343
01:01:55,053 --> 01:01:55,293
Speaker 6: Right O.

1344
01:01:55,373 --> 01:01:57,253
Speaker 4: One hundred and eighty ten eighty is a number to

1345
01:01:57,253 --> 01:01:59,293
Speaker 4: call if you've changed your mind about having children later

1346
01:01:59,333 --> 01:01:59,653
Speaker 4: in life.

1347
01:01:59,693 --> 01:02:00,373
Speaker 3: Love to hear from it.

1348
01:02:00,373 --> 01:02:02,493
Speaker 4: If you didn't think you'd ever be a parent, and

1349
01:02:02,533 --> 01:02:04,893
Speaker 4: then by happy chance or it was planned, oh eight

1350
01:02:05,013 --> 01:02:07,053
Speaker 4: hundred eighty ten eighty as a number to call, and if

1351
01:02:07,093 --> 01:02:09,613
Speaker 4: you have decided full stock that children are not for you.

1352
01:02:09,693 --> 01:02:11,693
Speaker 4: We're really keen of a chat with you. Why it

1353
01:02:11,893 --> 01:02:13,893
Speaker 4: is twenty seven to three.

1354
01:02:15,933 --> 01:02:18,933
Speaker 13: News Talk said be headlines with blue Bubble taxis there's

1355
01:02:18,973 --> 01:02:21,573
Speaker 13: no trouble with a blue bubble. A man has been

1356
01:02:21,653 --> 01:02:25,493
Speaker 13: arrested following reports of students and being suspiciously approached in

1357
01:02:25,573 --> 01:02:29,093
Speaker 13: christ Church. Police responded to concerns in Merivale and Saint

1358
01:02:29,133 --> 01:02:32,293
Speaker 13: Albans earlier this month, so sent a letter to eleven

1359
01:02:32,333 --> 01:02:36,173
Speaker 13: schools a warning of suspicious behavior. Police are still trying

1360
01:02:36,213 --> 01:02:38,413
Speaker 13: to establish the course of a death of a baby

1361
01:02:38,533 --> 01:02:42,693
Speaker 13: found in an Auckland wheelibin weeks after the autopsy. Last month,

1362
01:02:42,733 --> 01:02:45,253
Speaker 13: a newborn baby's body was found in a bin outside

1363
01:02:45,293 --> 01:02:49,333
Speaker 13: of property on Reynolds Street in Freeman's Bay. The first

1364
01:02:49,453 --> 01:02:53,173
Speaker 13: firefighters to enter the fatal Loafer's Lodge hostel blaze have

1365
01:02:53,293 --> 01:02:56,413
Speaker 13: described their narrow escape from the building shortly before a

1366
01:02:56,453 --> 01:03:00,373
Speaker 13: deadly flashover happened and zaid me. The media company which

1367
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Speaker 13: owns News Talk, said b and The Herald is reporting

1368
01:03:02,933 --> 01:03:06,933
Speaker 13: in almost twelve percent rise in half year earnings. McDonald's

1369
01:03:06,933 --> 01:03:09,853
Speaker 13: has quietly one consent for you twenty four seven drive

1370
01:03:09,933 --> 01:03:13,773
Speaker 13: through restaurant in Auckland's New market. The Auckland Council granted

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01:03:13,813 --> 01:03:17,013
Speaker 13: approval for it to develop a new free standing outlet

1372
01:03:17,053 --> 01:03:21,453
Speaker 13: on Broadway beneath the Southern Motorway flyover. Plus our angel

1373
01:03:21,573 --> 01:03:25,053
Speaker 13: New Zealand egg donor helped five families have babies. Then

1374
01:03:25,173 --> 01:03:27,493
Speaker 13: they all came to her wedding. See the story at

1375
01:03:27,573 --> 01:03:28,933
Speaker 13: enzid Herald Premium.

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Speaker 3: Thank you very much, Wendy.

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01:03:30,733 --> 01:03:34,373
Speaker 4: And we are discussing the increasing number of couples out

1378
01:03:34,413 --> 01:03:36,693
Speaker 4: there deciding not to have children and if that's you,

1379
01:03:36,853 --> 01:03:38,413
Speaker 4: really can never cheat with you. I which on one

1380
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Speaker 4: hundred eighty ten eighty.

1381
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Speaker 2: Here's a test on nine two nine two sexist conversation.

1382
01:03:43,013 --> 01:03:46,493
Speaker 2: Guys on female forty three always wanted kids, but but

1383
01:03:46,693 --> 01:03:49,453
Speaker 2: enough to do it on my own. Been through three

1384
01:03:49,533 --> 01:03:51,693
Speaker 2: long term partner since I was twenty one, and all

1385
01:03:51,693 --> 01:03:53,733
Speaker 2: indicated they wanted kids, but when it came to the

1386
01:03:53,773 --> 01:03:56,693
Speaker 2: crunch they wouldn't. All partners still don't have kids with

1387
01:03:56,813 --> 01:04:00,013
Speaker 2: other partners. All partners still don't have kids with other partners.

1388
01:04:00,053 --> 01:04:02,333
Speaker 2: I have a knack for picking them. Many guys out

1389
01:04:02,333 --> 01:04:04,453
Speaker 2: there are choosing not to have them. Why is that?

1390
01:04:05,493 --> 01:04:08,133
Speaker 2: Ps I've happily resigned myself to not having them and

1391
01:04:08,373 --> 01:04:10,813
Speaker 2: don't feel like I'm the other one out. But my

1392
01:04:10,893 --> 01:04:12,653
Speaker 2: question is why is it a sexist conversation?

1393
01:04:12,933 --> 01:04:15,373
Speaker 4: Yeah, where as you mentioned before, there's a lot of

1394
01:04:15,413 --> 01:04:18,413
Speaker 4: men who have decided not to have kids for whatever reason.

1395
01:04:18,413 --> 01:04:21,613
Speaker 2: We're not particularly talking about females that decide not to

1396
01:04:21,613 --> 01:04:24,893
Speaker 2: have kids. We're talking about people in general that decide

1397
01:04:24,933 --> 01:04:28,493
Speaker 2: not to have kids. But yeah, yeah, your three long

1398
01:04:28,573 --> 01:04:30,773
Speaker 2: term partners that will indicated they want to have kids,

1399
01:04:31,093 --> 01:04:33,253
Speaker 2: but then when they came to crunch they wouldn't. Yeah.

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01:04:33,413 --> 01:04:35,533
Speaker 2: You can't be indicating that you're will, you want to

1401
01:04:35,613 --> 01:04:36,333
Speaker 2: and they're not doing it.

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01:04:36,413 --> 01:04:38,133
Speaker 4: That is unfair. Yet, that's cruel.

1403
01:04:38,173 --> 01:04:40,053
Speaker 2: That ain't cool, Samuel, Welcome to the show.

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Speaker 6: Yeah killed her?

1405
01:04:45,733 --> 01:04:49,773
Speaker 19: Yeah, Yeah, i'm myself. Yeah, I've got I've got six

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01:04:49,853 --> 01:04:53,573
Speaker 19: children of my own and yeah, my wife and I

1407
01:04:52,813 --> 01:04:56,333
Speaker 19: am my wife started started a lot later in life

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01:04:56,333 --> 01:04:58,413
Speaker 19: having children. She was the thirty six and she had

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01:04:58,413 --> 01:04:59,013
Speaker 19: her first child.

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01:05:00,213 --> 01:05:03,813
Speaker 2: Wow, so you've had she's the first kid, thirty six

1411
01:05:03,933 --> 01:05:06,293
Speaker 2: till and you've had six kids? So how old is

1412
01:05:06,293 --> 01:05:07,413
Speaker 2: she now? If you don't mind me asking?

1413
01:05:08,813 --> 01:05:09,373
Speaker 5: Forty three?

1414
01:05:09,613 --> 01:05:10,373
Speaker 2: Oh? Wow?

1415
01:05:10,533 --> 01:05:13,413
Speaker 3: Right? Wow you yeah, well done. You made up for

1416
01:05:13,453 --> 01:05:13,893
Speaker 3: lost time.

1417
01:05:13,973 --> 01:05:15,133
Speaker 2: Busy, busy.

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01:05:15,813 --> 01:05:20,893
Speaker 4: Yeah, and so why was there a decision not to

1419
01:05:20,933 --> 01:05:22,893
Speaker 4: have children to that point or was there there are

1420
01:05:22,893 --> 01:05:26,613
Speaker 4: another reason why you left a little bit later.

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01:05:28,773 --> 01:05:32,893
Speaker 19: So I had two children in my younger years, in

1422
01:05:32,933 --> 01:05:38,213
Speaker 19: my early twenties before I met my wife, and and yeah,

1423
01:05:38,333 --> 01:05:43,413
Speaker 19: my wife, she she had never been with anyone until

1424
01:05:43,413 --> 01:05:46,093
Speaker 19: she met me and when she was thirty four, and

1425
01:05:46,213 --> 01:05:48,973
Speaker 19: so she really wanted to have children, and we just

1426
01:05:49,013 --> 01:05:51,333
Speaker 19: decided that was fine and we just went with it.

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01:05:51,853 --> 01:05:56,813
Speaker 2: So you on eight in total now six in total

1428
01:05:56,893 --> 01:05:59,733
Speaker 2: sex and total, so two before four? Yeah right, Okay.

1429
01:05:59,733 --> 01:06:01,853
Speaker 2: I was trying to do the math between thirty sex

1430
01:06:01,893 --> 01:06:04,493
Speaker 2: and forty three and sex kids, right, so that's four

1431
01:06:04,573 --> 01:06:10,453
Speaker 2: kids she had between thirty sex and forty three. Yes, yeah, right, right, okay, yeah,

1432
01:06:10,853 --> 01:06:11,773
Speaker 2: do the math on that one.

1433
01:06:11,813 --> 01:06:14,093
Speaker 4: And she always wanted multiple kids, Samuel.

1434
01:06:15,413 --> 01:06:15,933
Speaker 5: Yeah, she did.

1435
01:06:16,013 --> 01:06:17,933
Speaker 19: Yeah, yeah, yeah, she wanted to have five of her own.

1436
01:06:18,653 --> 01:06:20,533
Speaker 2: Right, And but you're stopping it.

1437
01:06:20,453 --> 01:06:25,813
Speaker 19: In four, No, we're my wife still wants to have

1438
01:06:25,893 --> 01:06:27,533
Speaker 19: another one, yeah, to make up there five.

1439
01:06:27,653 --> 01:06:31,573
Speaker 2: So and how has that been for you having all

1440
01:06:31,573 --> 01:06:33,693
Speaker 2: these children to bring up? Because people are talking about

1441
01:06:33,733 --> 01:06:35,173
Speaker 2: a lot one of the main reasons why people are

1442
01:06:35,213 --> 01:06:37,893
Speaker 2: choosing not to have kids. Is the financial side of it,

1443
01:06:38,053 --> 01:06:41,613
Speaker 2: So you've got six, four in recent years. How are

1444
01:06:41,653 --> 01:06:46,013
Speaker 2: you dealing with that? That the cash side of things? Samuel, Yeah,

1445
01:06:46,053 --> 01:06:46,893
Speaker 2: we're I'm.

1446
01:06:46,773 --> 01:06:48,573
Speaker 19: A business owner, so my wife's a teacher.

1447
01:06:48,733 --> 01:06:50,013
Speaker 8: But it kind of just works out.

1448
01:06:49,933 --> 01:06:55,693
Speaker 19: The things and yeah it's fine. Yeah, so we look

1449
01:06:55,733 --> 01:07:00,013
Speaker 19: comfortably and yeah we've got everything we possibly need and yeah,

1450
01:07:00,053 --> 01:07:03,693
Speaker 19: no complaints and so we're we're happy to Yeah, just

1451
01:07:03,773 --> 01:07:04,333
Speaker 19: have the kids.

1452
01:07:04,493 --> 01:07:05,613
Speaker 3: Love it, love it.

1453
01:07:05,653 --> 01:07:07,933
Speaker 4: I mean even at forty three that you are now, Samuel.

1454
01:07:08,093 --> 01:07:09,893
Speaker 4: And and how old are your kids? By the way,

1455
01:07:09,933 --> 01:07:11,653
Speaker 4: I should be able to do the mass, but I can't.

1456
01:07:12,093 --> 01:07:14,733
Speaker 4: So your four kids that you've had with your current wife,

1457
01:07:14,733 --> 01:07:15,293
Speaker 4: how old are they?

1458
01:07:17,893 --> 01:07:21,893
Speaker 19: So the youngest is thirteen months, and then we've got

1459
01:07:21,933 --> 01:07:25,013
Speaker 19: three year old, five year old, seven year old, and

1460
01:07:25,053 --> 01:07:27,293
Speaker 19: then my older two are thirteen and fourteen.

1461
01:07:27,413 --> 01:07:30,973
Speaker 4: O lovely, but going you know, forty three now that's

1462
01:07:31,493 --> 01:07:34,373
Speaker 4: traditionally now that wouldn't be seen as that old of appearance,

1463
01:07:34,373 --> 01:07:36,413
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. It's people are having kids

1464
01:07:36,493 --> 01:07:39,013
Speaker 4: later and later in life. Do you do you feel

1465
01:07:39,053 --> 01:07:41,013
Speaker 4: like you're an old appearance with kids that young?

1466
01:07:43,293 --> 01:07:46,533
Speaker 19: No, No, I feel as just as young as I

1467
01:07:46,533 --> 01:07:50,533
Speaker 19: feel because My wife and I both sport and exercise trained,

1468
01:07:50,613 --> 01:07:51,973
Speaker 19: so we stay pretty fit.

1469
01:07:52,733 --> 01:07:53,013
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1470
01:07:53,053 --> 01:07:56,853
Speaker 19: And actually three of our kids actually have diverse disabilities

1471
01:07:56,893 --> 01:08:00,853
Speaker 19: as well, so we've we've got a medical kind of

1472
01:08:00,853 --> 01:08:03,773
Speaker 19: lifestyle happening as well. So yeah, five year old has

1473
01:08:03,853 --> 01:08:06,933
Speaker 19: instage kidney disease. Wow, our seven year old has Hoy's

1474
01:08:06,973 --> 01:08:11,013
Speaker 19: AUTI them and our older son has ADHD and dyslexia.

1475
01:08:11,133 --> 01:08:13,333
Speaker 19: So it's it's a challenge.

1476
01:08:13,213 --> 01:08:13,413
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1477
01:08:13,493 --> 01:08:15,213
Speaker 1: Yeah, we just live with it, I bet.

1478
01:08:16,133 --> 01:08:18,213
Speaker 2: And what about your older kids from the from the

1479
01:08:18,253 --> 01:08:21,133
Speaker 2: first relationship the thirteen forty do they live with you

1480
01:08:21,213 --> 01:08:22,652
Speaker 2: some of the time or all the time?

1481
01:08:24,253 --> 01:08:25,812
Speaker 19: You've got all our kids so yeah.

1482
01:08:25,692 --> 01:08:27,692
Speaker 2: Yeah, and do the do the older ones help out

1483
01:08:27,853 --> 01:08:28,972
Speaker 2: with the with the younger ones?

1484
01:08:30,333 --> 01:08:30,652
Speaker 22: They do?

1485
01:08:30,973 --> 01:08:32,692
Speaker 2: Yeah, because that you used to always be the way

1486
01:08:32,732 --> 01:08:35,133
Speaker 2: with the big families, right, So the older kids ended

1487
01:08:35,213 --> 01:08:37,412
Speaker 2: up doing a lot of the parenting for the younger ones,

1488
01:08:38,853 --> 01:08:40,973
Speaker 2: but not so much these days when you just have

1489
01:08:40,973 --> 01:08:44,132
Speaker 2: two kids about the same age. All the best with that, Samuel,

1490
01:08:44,173 --> 01:08:45,812
Speaker 2: and thank you so much for sharing his story there.

1491
01:08:45,973 --> 01:08:46,892
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're a lucky man.

1492
01:08:47,093 --> 01:08:51,093
Speaker 2: So if he's got he's got six, so he's he's

1493
01:08:51,093 --> 01:08:53,852
Speaker 2: beating the fertility rate. Of So the current fertility rate

1494
01:08:53,893 --> 01:08:56,213
Speaker 2: in New Zealand's one point five to six. So he's

1495
01:08:56,253 --> 01:08:59,772
Speaker 2: smashing that with six. Yeah, absolutely smashing that fertility rate.

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01:08:59,853 --> 01:09:02,412
Speaker 4: World Une, Samuel and Wife, Oh, one hundred and eighty

1497
01:09:02,412 --> 01:09:04,973
Speaker 4: ten eighty is the number of girl coming up. We're

1498
01:09:05,013 --> 01:09:07,133
Speaker 4: gonna have a chat to a gentleman who had a

1499
01:09:07,213 --> 01:09:11,492
Speaker 4: vizectomy reversal. Great story, that is all I can see there.

1500
01:09:11,572 --> 01:09:13,372
Speaker 2: There's a mir on the West coast. Someone will be

1501
01:09:13,412 --> 01:09:14,973
Speaker 2: able to tell me his name that. I think he

1502
01:09:15,053 --> 01:09:19,612
Speaker 2: said a vasectime reversal or a vasectima reversal, vissectim reversal

1503
01:09:19,612 --> 01:09:20,412
Speaker 2: and a vasectomy.

1504
01:09:20,612 --> 01:09:21,452
Speaker 3: It's a great fact.

1505
01:09:22,772 --> 01:09:24,732
Speaker 2: Someone can tell me if that's true, that on the

1506
01:09:24,973 --> 01:09:28,253
Speaker 2: West Coast. I think he was the great Gray District mayor.

1507
01:09:28,093 --> 01:09:30,893
Speaker 4: Not Tony Cockshawn. I think we're Cockshawn has a Cogshawn.

1508
01:09:31,093 --> 01:09:32,652
Speaker 4: He's a great man. I think he's had the old

1509
01:09:32,652 --> 01:09:33,732
Speaker 4: snippet reverse a few times.

1510
01:09:33,853 --> 01:09:35,412
Speaker 2: Is he quite an amusing name for a guy that's

1511
01:09:35,452 --> 01:09:36,653
Speaker 2: been through that.

1512
01:09:36,732 --> 01:09:38,333
Speaker 3: It's seventeen to three.

1513
01:09:39,133 --> 01:09:42,413
Speaker 1: The big stories, the big issues, to the big trends

1514
01:09:42,452 --> 01:09:46,173
Speaker 1: and everything in between. Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons

1515
01:09:46,452 --> 01:09:47,293
Speaker 1: used talks that'd be.

1516
01:09:47,452 --> 01:09:51,133
Speaker 4: It is fourteen to three and we are discussing the

1517
01:09:51,692 --> 01:09:54,852
Speaker 4: decision of many couples in New Zealand growing to not

1518
01:09:55,053 --> 01:09:56,812
Speaker 4: have children and a FETs you were eight, one hundred

1519
01:09:56,812 --> 01:09:58,293
Speaker 4: and eighty ten eighty or if you decided to have

1520
01:09:58,372 --> 01:10:00,572
Speaker 4: children later in life you never thought that you wanted

1521
01:10:00,652 --> 01:10:02,972
Speaker 4: kids then it happened. We can chat with you as well.

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01:10:03,293 --> 01:10:05,973
Speaker 2: The sexas says I didn't want children because I was

1523
01:10:06,013 --> 01:10:09,013
Speaker 2: having a great time career wise in traveling. Then I

1524
01:10:09,013 --> 01:10:12,173
Speaker 2: didn't have any partners I could trust to have kids with.

1525
01:10:12,412 --> 01:10:14,612
Speaker 2: I wanted a family, not just kids. I was open

1526
01:10:14,652 --> 01:10:17,893
Speaker 2: with people whenever I was asked about not meeting untrust

1527
01:10:18,093 --> 01:10:20,253
Speaker 2: untrustworthy men, and I was asked a lot in New

1528
01:10:20,372 --> 01:10:22,892
Speaker 2: Zealand compared to overseas. Later I met my husband, who

1529
01:10:23,013 --> 01:10:26,452
Speaker 2: was wonderful. I did pause over the climate problem, as

1530
01:10:26,572 --> 01:10:29,293
Speaker 2: I know others who don't want kids because of that.

1531
01:10:30,492 --> 01:10:33,532
Speaker 2: Just one second bringing out the end of this text,

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01:10:35,532 --> 01:10:37,772
Speaker 2: because I know others that don't want kids because of that.

1533
01:10:37,893 --> 01:10:40,213
Speaker 2: We have two kids now and love them dearly. I

1534
01:10:40,293 --> 01:10:42,532
Speaker 2: never appreciated how easy it is to leave the house

1535
01:10:42,532 --> 01:10:45,652
Speaker 2: as two adults, though until having kids. Well, it certainly

1536
01:10:45,732 --> 01:10:48,732
Speaker 2: changes your life, but they're little smiles and hugs make

1537
01:10:48,812 --> 01:10:51,172
Speaker 2: up for the rest. It's an interesting one. A when

1538
01:10:51,213 --> 01:10:54,293
Speaker 2: you do have kids, you wonder what you did with

1539
01:10:54,333 --> 01:10:58,213
Speaker 2: your time before you had kids, because before kids, you like, boy,

1540
01:10:58,412 --> 01:11:00,372
Speaker 2: I seem to be pretty busy, and then you have

1541
01:11:00,452 --> 01:11:02,492
Speaker 2: kids and you go, oh my god, I must have

1542
01:11:02,532 --> 01:11:03,652
Speaker 2: had so much free time.

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01:11:03,812 --> 01:11:05,012
Speaker 4: I don't know what busy meant.

1544
01:11:05,213 --> 01:11:07,293
Speaker 2: Michael, Welcome to the.

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01:11:07,213 --> 01:11:09,412
Speaker 5: Show afternoon guys. Love your show.

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01:11:10,053 --> 01:11:10,852
Speaker 2: Thank you, Michael.

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01:11:11,333 --> 01:11:14,412
Speaker 5: I thought i'd share with you and the other listeners

1548
01:11:14,412 --> 01:11:17,932
Speaker 5: a funny story of personal story. I have a son

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01:11:18,013 --> 01:11:20,852
Speaker 5: and two daughters. The son was born to with my

1550
01:11:20,973 --> 01:11:25,532
Speaker 5: previous wife, and after about a year afterwards, she said, hey, listen,

1551
01:11:25,652 --> 01:11:28,412
Speaker 5: I don't want any more children. I'm happy with what

1552
01:11:28,492 --> 01:11:33,092
Speaker 5: we've got. Would you please have a vasectomy? And I thought, yeah,

1553
01:11:33,093 --> 01:11:36,012
Speaker 5: that's fine. I wasn't expecting life to unfold the way

1554
01:11:36,333 --> 01:11:39,692
Speaker 5: it does. That's fine. So I had a vasecto me

1555
01:11:40,013 --> 01:11:42,452
Speaker 5: And then when the sun was about six years old,

1556
01:11:42,492 --> 01:11:45,173
Speaker 5: we broke up and he went and lived with her,

1557
01:11:45,532 --> 01:11:48,053
Speaker 5: and several years later I met someone else, and in

1558
01:11:48,173 --> 01:11:52,213
Speaker 5: due course we ended up getting married as a couple,

1559
01:11:52,293 --> 01:11:57,333
Speaker 5: and after that wanted to have a child, and she

1560
01:11:57,452 --> 01:12:00,013
Speaker 5: knew that I had had a vasectomy reversal. So we

1561
01:12:00,093 --> 01:12:03,372
Speaker 5: go off of vasectomy. So we go off to some

1562
01:12:03,412 --> 01:12:05,812
Speaker 5: specialists who says, now, look if I took a piece

1563
01:12:05,812 --> 01:12:08,052
Speaker 5: of hair out of your head, snipped it in half,

1564
01:12:08,452 --> 01:12:12,333
Speaker 5: rejoined it so that the flow through it still worked,

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01:12:12,572 --> 01:12:15,492
Speaker 5: that's what you're asking me to do. I said, yep,

1566
01:12:15,572 --> 01:12:18,652
Speaker 5: that's what I'm asking you to do. So I had

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01:12:18,692 --> 01:12:21,812
Speaker 5: the operation and yay, was successful, and we had our

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01:12:21,812 --> 01:12:26,132
Speaker 5: first daughter together. And then after about six or nine months,

1569
01:12:26,293 --> 01:12:29,253
Speaker 5: we said, hey, let's have a Let's have another one.

1570
01:12:29,652 --> 01:12:31,452
Speaker 5: Doesn't matter if it's a boy or girl, but let's

1571
01:12:31,452 --> 01:12:34,532
Speaker 5: have a second child. And so we start trying and

1572
01:12:34,572 --> 01:12:39,092
Speaker 5: there was no success, and so my wife got checked

1573
01:12:39,133 --> 01:12:42,293
Speaker 5: and she was fine. So I got checked and I said,

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01:12:42,293 --> 01:12:45,293
Speaker 5: oh no, you've a sectomy reversals closed up. You need

1575
01:12:45,333 --> 01:12:49,253
Speaker 5: another one. So I had another one and it was

1576
01:12:49,293 --> 01:12:53,452
Speaker 5: successful and we had our second daughter. There's a story

1577
01:12:53,492 --> 01:12:57,612
Speaker 5: for you. Ye I never thought that. I never thought

1578
01:12:57,612 --> 01:13:00,133
Speaker 5: i'd have kids when I left school and was in

1579
01:13:00,133 --> 01:13:03,213
Speaker 5: my twenties, but you change and it was great. I

1580
01:13:03,253 --> 01:13:05,253
Speaker 5: love all three of them. They're fantastic.

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01:13:05,692 --> 01:13:09,252
Speaker 2: So the process you'd be feeling pretty sort of comfortable

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01:13:09,293 --> 01:13:11,412
Speaker 2: with the process now for the vix vaseect to me

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01:13:11,452 --> 01:13:12,812
Speaker 2: reversal the sect to me process.

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01:13:13,772 --> 01:13:19,012
Speaker 5: Yeah, i won't be doing any more reversal time.

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Speaker 24: I'm well passed.

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01:13:21,093 --> 01:13:23,132
Speaker 2: Thank you for you call, Michael, and thank you for sharing.

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01:13:23,253 --> 01:13:24,372
Speaker 3: Yeah, what a great story.

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01:13:24,812 --> 01:13:29,413
Speaker 2: I'm not hearing any evidence on claim that Mere Coxshawn

1589
01:13:30,333 --> 01:13:33,453
Speaker 2: one time, Mere Coxhn of Gray District than the West

1590
01:13:34,213 --> 01:13:36,852
Speaker 2: on the West Coast has had what did I say,

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01:13:37,173 --> 01:13:39,293
Speaker 2: the sect to me reversal ver sect to me, reversal

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01:13:39,372 --> 01:13:40,733
Speaker 2: ver sect to me, reversal.

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01:13:40,452 --> 01:13:43,612
Speaker 4: Three of them. Yeah, yeah, I mean this sounds like

1594
01:13:43,652 --> 01:13:46,692
Speaker 4: a story mate. Someone heard his name Tony Coxshawn and

1595
01:13:46,732 --> 01:13:48,732
Speaker 4: then whispered in your ears. You know that guy. He

1596
01:13:48,853 --> 01:13:50,372
Speaker 4: said three sect to me.

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01:13:50,612 --> 01:13:52,492
Speaker 2: See if we can get Tony Coxshawn on the phone

1598
01:13:52,772 --> 01:13:53,692
Speaker 2: and asking this.

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01:13:53,853 --> 01:13:54,492
Speaker 4: He's a good man.

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Speaker 12: Right.

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01:13:54,893 --> 01:13:59,012
Speaker 4: Coming up, after the we play some messages, we're gonna

1602
01:13:59,013 --> 01:14:00,932
Speaker 4: have a chat to someone who thinks people need to

1603
01:14:01,013 --> 01:14:03,253
Speaker 4: think about what life will be like an old age

1604
01:14:03,293 --> 01:14:05,053
Speaker 4: if they decide not to have kids. That's coming up.

1605
01:14:05,093 --> 01:14:08,492
Speaker 2: It's ten to three, the issues that affect you and

1606
01:14:08,612 --> 01:14:09,852
Speaker 2: a bit of fun along the way.

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01:14:10,093 --> 01:14:13,012
Speaker 1: Matt Heath and Taylor Adams afternoons news talk.

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01:14:13,093 --> 01:14:17,372
Speaker 3: Sa'd be very good afternoon. It is seven two three.

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01:14:18,093 --> 01:14:21,612
Speaker 2: No confirmation yet on where the X mirror of Gray

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01:14:21,692 --> 01:14:26,612
Speaker 2: District Tony Coxshawan has had the verseekt to me reversal

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01:14:26,652 --> 01:14:30,132
Speaker 2: versect the me reversal verseekti me reversal that I've claimed.

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01:14:30,452 --> 01:14:32,492
Speaker 4: We are going to do some deep research into the

1613
01:14:32,532 --> 01:14:34,132
Speaker 4: heat and get Tony on the phone at some station.

1614
01:14:34,053 --> 01:14:36,412
Speaker 2: Normally normally nine two, nine to two on the text

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01:14:36,412 --> 01:14:39,253
Speaker 2: machine is across answering these questions for me when I

1616
01:14:39,253 --> 01:14:42,492
Speaker 2: throw out these wild allegations. But he's a great man,

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01:14:42,532 --> 01:14:44,372
Speaker 2: Tony Cockshaws. He has sean to spend a bit of

1618
01:14:44,372 --> 01:14:47,572
Speaker 2: time with them and on the coast, I've been doing

1619
01:14:47,572 --> 01:14:51,173
Speaker 2: stuff over there, wonderful human being. Absolutely just can't confirm

1620
01:14:51,173 --> 01:14:52,932
Speaker 2: how many vi sect to mes and reversals his head yet.

1621
01:14:52,933 --> 01:14:53,492
Speaker 2: We'll get onto that.

1622
01:14:53,532 --> 01:14:54,492
Speaker 3: We'll get to the bottom of that.

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01:14:54,532 --> 01:14:57,532
Speaker 2: Absolutely good afternoon, guys, and sorry for this, but it

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01:14:57,612 --> 01:15:00,093
Speaker 2: is the truth. Texts of yours that say they did

1625
01:15:00,093 --> 01:15:02,532
Speaker 2: not have children because of the climate issue are the

1626
01:15:02,532 --> 01:15:06,132
Speaker 2: manifestation of the word paramore paranoid. Have a good day, Yeah, thank.

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01:15:06,013 --> 01:15:06,612
Speaker 3: You very much.

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01:15:07,293 --> 01:15:09,612
Speaker 4: Sir Rish, how are you this afternoon?

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01:15:10,772 --> 01:15:14,932
Speaker 6: Good? Hey, there's people who say that we don't want

1630
01:15:15,013 --> 01:15:19,013
Speaker 6: children because I enjoy my lifestyle and I can go

1631
01:15:19,093 --> 01:15:22,452
Speaker 6: on holidays and I can do whatever they want. But

1632
01:15:23,053 --> 01:15:26,612
Speaker 6: you sit there and there are kind of milestones in life,

1633
01:15:26,652 --> 01:15:30,052
Speaker 6: you know, like your teenage years, like your school years,

1634
01:15:30,093 --> 01:15:34,093
Speaker 6: like your university years. Having children is a milestone. And

1635
01:15:34,133 --> 01:15:37,172
Speaker 6: if you don't have that milestone, you've got something missing.

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01:15:37,652 --> 01:15:41,532
Speaker 6: You miss out on that milestone. And then the other

1637
01:15:41,612 --> 01:15:44,932
Speaker 6: thing is that when they get old, who are they

1638
01:15:44,973 --> 01:15:47,173
Speaker 6: going to love and who's going to give them love.

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01:15:47,213 --> 01:15:49,972
Speaker 6: I've been to a lot of restaurants and you see

1640
01:15:50,013 --> 01:15:53,612
Speaker 6: people just lying there, nobody to do till nobody comes

1641
01:15:53,652 --> 01:15:57,652
Speaker 6: in and and nothing happening. So have they ever thought

1642
01:15:57,652 --> 01:15:59,652
Speaker 6: about that? What's going to happen to them when they

1643
01:15:59,652 --> 01:16:00,133
Speaker 6: get old?

1644
01:16:00,812 --> 01:16:04,772
Speaker 2: With the millstone, what she wished? What age do you reckon?

1645
01:16:04,772 --> 01:16:08,093
Speaker 2: There's a good age to have kids? Then for a milestone,

1646
01:16:08,093 --> 01:16:09,933
Speaker 2: So in your teenage years you rack it up. Do

1647
01:16:09,933 --> 01:16:12,372
Speaker 2: you rack it up through your twenties as well? And

1648
01:16:12,372 --> 01:16:14,333
Speaker 2: in kids in your in your thirties.

1649
01:16:14,053 --> 01:16:17,812
Speaker 6: Or the best things go to have kids is when

1650
01:16:17,853 --> 01:16:21,972
Speaker 6: you you're stable in terms of your own income and

1651
01:16:22,412 --> 01:16:25,173
Speaker 6: then you can you're in a position to provide something.

1652
01:16:25,253 --> 01:16:28,892
Speaker 6: There's no point in any kids if you're not stable yourself.

1653
01:16:29,692 --> 01:16:33,372
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, well thank you wis wise words. A couple

1654
01:16:33,372 --> 01:16:38,612
Speaker 4: of texts to wrap this one up. Hey, guys, before kids,

1655
01:16:38,732 --> 01:16:41,213
Speaker 4: I had plenty of time practicing making kids. Have two

1656
01:16:41,253 --> 01:16:43,772
Speaker 4: now and now I have all the time in the world.

1657
01:16:43,772 --> 01:16:46,732
Speaker 4: That's from Wayne. And this one get ay, guys on

1658
01:16:46,772 --> 01:16:49,972
Speaker 4: forty eight today and have my third grandchild two days ago,

1659
01:16:50,173 --> 01:16:52,812
Speaker 4: two daughters before twenty two. Been with my wife since

1660
01:16:52,812 --> 01:16:55,492
Speaker 4: I was seventeen. Kids are the meaning of life for me.

1661
01:16:55,732 --> 01:16:57,293
Speaker 4: That's from Tim. It's lovely.

1662
01:16:57,372 --> 01:16:59,612
Speaker 2: The sixes. Don't tell me to have kids, you're fascist.

1663
01:16:59,612 --> 01:17:01,572
Speaker 2: It's my choice. You know, no one was telling you

1664
01:17:01,612 --> 01:17:04,852
Speaker 2: to have kids. We were just discussing an interesting stat

1665
01:17:04,933 --> 01:17:07,492
Speaker 2: that fertility rates are very low in New Zealand. We're

1666
01:17:07,532 --> 01:17:10,053
Speaker 2: just asking why people that are choosing not to have

1667
01:17:10,093 --> 01:17:14,052
Speaker 2: children are choosing not to have children. Yes, we certainly

1668
01:17:14,053 --> 01:17:15,933
Speaker 2: don't have the power to force you to have children.

1669
01:17:15,933 --> 01:17:18,173
Speaker 4: Even if I wanted to, even if he wanted to. Yeah,

1670
01:17:18,213 --> 01:17:19,892
Speaker 4: and sometimes you do want to, but you don't have

1671
01:17:19,933 --> 01:17:20,333
Speaker 4: that power.

1672
01:17:20,412 --> 01:17:22,173
Speaker 2: If I could just wave my hand and make people

1673
01:17:22,173 --> 01:17:23,372
Speaker 2: pregnant babies.

1674
01:17:25,372 --> 01:17:26,372
Speaker 4: What a world that would be.

1675
01:17:26,692 --> 01:17:28,692
Speaker 2: Increase the futility rate to one hundred percent.

1676
01:17:28,772 --> 01:17:31,372
Speaker 4: You don't deserve that power, right, great discussion. Thank you

1677
01:17:31,532 --> 01:17:34,412
Speaker 4: very much to everyone who called and text on that one.

1678
01:17:34,652 --> 01:17:37,973
Speaker 4: Really enjoyed that. Coming up after three o'clock a fantastic

1679
01:17:38,053 --> 01:17:40,732
Speaker 4: video that's going viral at the moment, but it describes

1680
01:17:40,812 --> 01:17:44,853
Speaker 4: this gentleman describes the top five hours of the workday.

1681
01:17:44,612 --> 01:17:46,253
Speaker 3: Where he does sweet bugger all.

1682
01:17:47,412 --> 01:17:48,892
Speaker 4: So we want to have a chat to you about

1683
01:17:48,933 --> 01:17:51,013
Speaker 4: if you've got people like that in your workplace or

1684
01:17:51,013 --> 01:17:54,053
Speaker 4: you're one of them the muck around time, so to speak.

1685
01:17:54,093 --> 01:17:55,532
Speaker 4: We'd love to hear from you on O eighte hundred

1686
01:17:55,572 --> 01:17:57,053
Speaker 4: and eighty ten eighty and.

1687
01:17:57,013 --> 01:17:58,893
Speaker 2: We're still following up with Tony cockshawn.

1688
01:17:59,013 --> 01:18:00,253
Speaker 4: I've got a number for them, so I'm going to

1689
01:18:00,293 --> 01:18:02,052
Speaker 4: give them a call once we get into the news.

1690
01:18:02,133 --> 01:18:05,293
Speaker 2: I know exactly how many viscectomies and reversals head.

1691
01:18:05,053 --> 01:18:07,213
Speaker 4: That's coming up after three o'clock New Sport them where

1692
01:18:07,213 --> 01:18:08,972
Speaker 4: they're on its way to matt and Tyler.

1693
01:18:09,013 --> 01:18:14,372
Speaker 3: Good afternoon, Your new.

1694
01:18:14,372 --> 01:18:18,812
Speaker 1: Homes are insateful and entertaining talk. It's Mattie and Taylor

1695
01:18:18,853 --> 01:18:21,732
Speaker 1: Adams afternoons on News Talk Sevvy.

1696
01:18:22,452 --> 01:18:25,012
Speaker 4: Welcome back into the show. Six past three.

1697
01:18:25,253 --> 01:18:27,133
Speaker 2: Okay, so before we go into the next topic, we've

1698
01:18:27,133 --> 01:18:31,372
Speaker 2: got to put mere Cockshawn from gray Town, from the

1699
01:18:31,372 --> 01:18:33,133
Speaker 2: Gray District, sorry on the West Coast, so he was

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01:18:33,173 --> 01:18:37,692
Speaker 2: mayor up until twenty nineteen, I believe. And in the

1701
01:18:37,772 --> 01:18:40,852
Speaker 2: last hour when we were talking about fertility rates in

1702
01:18:40,853 --> 01:18:45,293
Speaker 2: New Zealand, I made the extravagant claim that me and

1703
01:18:45,372 --> 01:18:50,572
Speaker 2: Tony Coxshawn no relation to Sean Johnson, has had a

1704
01:18:50,692 --> 01:18:53,532
Speaker 2: vasectom a reversal aves zect tom a reversal, a vicectame

1705
01:18:53,612 --> 01:18:56,532
Speaker 2: a reversal. Correct, and you rolled your eyes at me,

1706
01:18:56,652 --> 01:18:58,812
Speaker 2: oh Tyler, and the text machine on nine two nine

1707
01:18:58,933 --> 01:19:02,732
Speaker 2: two was suspicious that I might be making it up.

1708
01:19:03,093 --> 01:19:06,293
Speaker 2: But we can confirm, we can confirm you have just

1709
01:19:06,333 --> 01:19:10,892
Speaker 2: been on the phone to ex meor Tony Coxshawn yep

1710
01:19:11,053 --> 01:19:13,012
Speaker 2: of the Gray District and on the Gold Coast.

1711
01:19:13,133 --> 01:19:16,372
Speaker 4: Still a great man and he still tells a great yarn.

1712
01:19:16,412 --> 01:19:18,933
Speaker 4: But I got to say first thing straight out of

1713
01:19:18,933 --> 01:19:20,812
Speaker 4: it because I just put it to him straight and said, Tony,

1714
01:19:20,973 --> 01:19:23,492
Speaker 4: we've heard, we've heard this rumor. Can you confirm or

1715
01:19:23,532 --> 01:19:25,572
Speaker 4: Deny and he's in the airport going to the Goldie.

1716
01:19:25,612 --> 01:19:28,452
Speaker 4: I'm probably saying too much. You're already sorry, Tony, and

1717
01:19:28,572 --> 01:19:30,772
Speaker 4: he said in a very whispery voice because he's in

1718
01:19:30,772 --> 01:19:33,772
Speaker 4: the quarter lounge and just moving away from his beautiful wife.

1719
01:19:33,933 --> 01:19:36,572
Speaker 4: Said yes, but I've been trying to I've been trying

1720
01:19:36,612 --> 01:19:38,692
Speaker 4: to lose this for the last couple of years. Year bugger.

1721
01:19:39,093 --> 01:19:41,453
Speaker 3: So yeah, so that is confirmed.

1722
01:19:42,213 --> 01:19:45,492
Speaker 2: And so it's confirmed the sick to me reversal, the

1723
01:19:45,532 --> 01:19:47,972
Speaker 2: sick to me reversalver sect to me reversal. So he's

1724
01:19:48,013 --> 01:19:51,373
Speaker 2: currently what's his current status of him? I'm not overstepping

1725
01:19:51,412 --> 01:19:54,812
Speaker 2: the bounds by asking. I think the last so the

1726
01:19:54,893 --> 01:19:58,293
Speaker 2: last thing he did was a reversal. No, so he's

1727
01:19:58,293 --> 01:20:01,093
Speaker 2: had another. Last one was the shut up shop again,

1728
01:20:01,893 --> 01:20:06,213
Speaker 2: take me down shop? Was open, shot closed, yep shop reopened,

1729
01:20:06,333 --> 01:20:09,572
Speaker 2: yep shot closed, yep shot red open, yep shot closed.

1730
01:20:09,612 --> 01:20:12,452
Speaker 4: That's where it ends. That is where the story ends.

1731
01:20:13,173 --> 01:20:17,612
Speaker 4: So so good to confirm that. And Tony, enjoy your holiday, mate,

1732
01:20:17,652 --> 01:20:19,652
Speaker 4: But you're you're a bloody good sport. He's a good man.

1733
01:20:19,732 --> 01:20:20,293
Speaker 2: Wow, good on.

1734
01:20:20,572 --> 01:20:22,532
Speaker 4: Yeah, but he can't escape it.

1735
01:20:22,572 --> 01:20:25,093
Speaker 2: Who's that guy you see? Driving around Auckland. The vast

1736
01:20:25,093 --> 01:20:28,173
Speaker 2: Man what he calls it. Yeah, there's like a number

1737
01:20:28,173 --> 01:20:31,213
Speaker 2: plate the vest man. Does you know a very successful

1738
01:20:31,213 --> 01:20:34,652
Speaker 2: doctor in that area? So he's o fay with the

1739
01:20:34,812 --> 01:20:36,772
Speaker 2: city mid or as another one.

1740
01:20:36,853 --> 01:20:38,293
Speaker 4: Yeah, he did say you got a discount for the

1741
01:20:38,372 --> 01:20:40,253
Speaker 4: last one. As you'd expect. It's almost a punch card

1742
01:20:40,293 --> 01:20:42,293
Speaker 4: situation at that They're like I won't get one.

1743
01:20:44,053 --> 01:20:46,372
Speaker 2: They'll be like, well, we'll see you again next week.

1744
01:20:47,492 --> 01:20:48,532
Speaker 3: Oh, bless right?

1745
01:20:49,612 --> 01:20:50,012
Speaker 2: How good?

1746
01:20:50,372 --> 01:20:53,213
Speaker 4: How good? Onto this conversation, which is going to be

1747
01:20:53,213 --> 01:20:54,013
Speaker 4: a doozy as well.

1748
01:20:54,133 --> 01:20:54,852
Speaker 3: So a video.

1749
01:20:55,013 --> 01:20:57,732
Speaker 4: This was a video you sent through last night, Matt

1750
01:20:57,812 --> 01:21:01,092
Speaker 4: on Instagram, and it's this Australian bloke who calls himself

1751
01:21:01,612 --> 01:21:02,853
Speaker 4: fair Way Puppy.

1752
01:21:03,173 --> 01:21:07,812
Speaker 2: Yeah. And so this is him describing his workday, ranking

1753
01:21:07,853 --> 01:21:10,333
Speaker 2: the top five hours of the day where I'm not

1754
01:21:10,452 --> 01:21:11,732
Speaker 2: doing shit at work.

1755
01:21:12,013 --> 01:21:15,612
Speaker 25: Coming in at number five, we have the hour before lunch.

1756
01:21:15,772 --> 01:21:17,333
Speaker 25: By this stage, I've been at work for a couple

1757
01:21:17,372 --> 01:21:20,092
Speaker 25: of hours. I'm hungry. All I'm thinking about is breaking

1758
01:21:20,093 --> 01:21:22,093
Speaker 25: for lunch. I want to get the hell out of here.

1759
01:21:22,492 --> 01:21:25,253
Speaker 25: I'm not doing the hour before lunch. Coming in at

1760
01:21:25,293 --> 01:21:28,612
Speaker 25: number four, we have the hour directly after a meeting.

1761
01:21:28,853 --> 01:21:31,973
Speaker 25: Paying attention during the meeting has absolutely cooked me. My

1762
01:21:32,053 --> 01:21:35,333
Speaker 25: attention span is done. I need a break, and for

1763
01:21:35,372 --> 01:21:38,133
Speaker 25: that reason, I'm not doing for an hour after a meeting.

1764
01:21:38,293 --> 01:21:41,572
Speaker 25: Coming in at number three, we have the hour after lunch.

1765
01:21:41,893 --> 01:21:44,692
Speaker 25: Lunch time's over and I'm depressed. All I can think

1766
01:21:44,732 --> 01:21:46,572
Speaker 25: about now is how badly I want to have a nap.

1767
01:21:46,732 --> 01:21:49,052
Speaker 25: My mind now wonders to what I'm doing after work.

1768
01:21:49,333 --> 01:21:51,372
Speaker 25: I don't want to be here. I'm not doing shit

1769
01:21:51,572 --> 01:21:53,932
Speaker 25: during the hour after lunch. Coming in at number two,

1770
01:21:54,053 --> 01:21:56,812
Speaker 25: we have the first hour of the day. Look, if

1771
01:21:56,812 --> 01:21:58,572
Speaker 25: I'm completely honest, I'm probably not going to be here

1772
01:21:58,572 --> 01:22:00,412
Speaker 25: for the first fifteen minutes of the day anyway. Then

1773
01:22:00,412 --> 01:22:02,812
Speaker 25: I'm going to come in quick socialize with the colleagues,

1774
01:22:02,933 --> 01:22:04,973
Speaker 25: and then I'm immediately looking to get a coffee. I

1775
01:22:05,053 --> 01:22:06,732
Speaker 25: might turn my computer on and see if I got

1776
01:22:06,732 --> 01:22:09,053
Speaker 25: ne urge of emails, but I've than that I'm not

1777
01:22:09,093 --> 01:22:11,612
Speaker 25: doing for the first hour of the day, and coming

1778
01:22:11,652 --> 01:22:14,333
Speaker 25: in at number one we have the last hour of

1779
01:22:14,333 --> 01:22:17,092
Speaker 25: the day. It goes without saying I've busted my ass

1780
01:22:17,133 --> 01:22:20,892
Speaker 25: all day meetings, lunch breaks, coffees. Now it's time for

1781
01:22:20,933 --> 01:22:23,293
Speaker 25: me to start wrapping things up and look for the

1782
01:22:23,293 --> 01:22:25,772
Speaker 25: exit door. Chances are again I won't be here for

1783
01:22:25,812 --> 01:22:28,293
Speaker 25: the last fifteen of these minutes. So with that in mind,

1784
01:22:28,933 --> 01:22:31,652
Speaker 25: I'm not doing for the last hour of the day.

1785
01:22:32,532 --> 01:22:33,812
Speaker 4: So good, so good.

1786
01:22:34,053 --> 01:22:37,333
Speaker 2: So obviously this is a comedian but there's some truth

1787
01:22:37,333 --> 01:22:40,893
Speaker 2: in that, right, there's some truth. There are people that

1788
01:22:40,893 --> 01:22:44,452
Speaker 2: that don't do a lot in any given day's work.

1789
01:22:44,492 --> 01:22:48,412
Speaker 2: They're in, they're coming in, they're arriving, but there's just

1790
01:22:48,612 --> 01:22:51,372
Speaker 2: various things that they're not doing. I mean, there's people

1791
01:22:51,412 --> 01:22:54,772
Speaker 2: that won't do their deposits at home and because they

1792
01:22:54,812 --> 01:22:56,932
Speaker 2: want to save up, because that's time they don't want

1793
01:22:56,933 --> 01:22:59,892
Speaker 2: to be working as well. So eight hundred and eighty

1794
01:22:59,893 --> 01:23:02,053
Speaker 2: ten eighty do you work with a slack person? And

1795
01:23:02,093 --> 01:23:03,852
Speaker 2: how do they get away with it? You know, how

1796
01:23:03,893 --> 01:23:05,812
Speaker 2: do people get away with not working? I mean, are

1797
01:23:05,893 --> 01:23:07,412
Speaker 2: you a slack person? Would love to hear from some

1798
01:23:07,452 --> 01:23:11,173
Speaker 2: of that, and you know, and if you know, if

1799
01:23:11,173 --> 01:23:16,492
Speaker 2: you are, you know an employer, and you know, how

1800
01:23:16,492 --> 01:23:20,692
Speaker 2: do you how do you police people that slack because

1801
01:23:21,452 --> 01:23:24,853
Speaker 2: you definitely see it post lunch slowdown, pre lunch slowdown,

1802
01:23:25,293 --> 01:23:28,012
Speaker 2: a slow start to the day, the first hour differentely

1803
01:23:28,173 --> 01:23:29,333
Speaker 2: easier way into leaving.

1804
01:23:29,532 --> 01:23:32,053
Speaker 3: Ye, he's got it right.

1805
01:23:32,173 --> 01:23:32,892
Speaker 4: He's got it right.

1806
01:23:32,973 --> 01:23:35,132
Speaker 2: And as I was saying before, I've been this person.

1807
01:23:35,572 --> 01:23:37,412
Speaker 2: And some people might say, now, well, what do you

1808
01:23:37,412 --> 01:23:40,333
Speaker 2: do You just sitting share talking to a microphone. Your

1809
01:23:40,452 --> 01:23:43,972
Speaker 2: job is pretty slack, just sitting on your ass gas bagging.

1810
01:23:44,532 --> 01:23:48,812
Speaker 2: But I worked as a warehouse manager for a company

1811
01:23:48,853 --> 01:23:52,852
Speaker 2: called I Hug Nice and they started a computer you know,

1812
01:23:52,893 --> 01:23:56,612
Speaker 2: the shop that was selling computers and CD ROMs and

1813
01:23:56,652 --> 01:23:59,973
Speaker 2: such back in the day, but they weren't shifting a

1814
01:24:00,013 --> 01:24:03,372
Speaker 2: lot of units at that time, very successful internet service provider,

1815
01:24:03,853 --> 01:24:07,532
Speaker 2: but their movement into retail wasn't as successful. So I

1816
01:24:07,572 --> 01:24:09,973
Speaker 2: had this mess of warehouse to run, okay, and had

1817
01:24:09,973 --> 01:24:11,613
Speaker 2: a bit of staff, a few staff.

1818
01:24:11,372 --> 01:24:12,452
Speaker 4: Yep, just a young man.

1819
01:24:12,372 --> 01:24:12,732
Speaker 2: At the time.

1820
01:24:12,772 --> 01:24:16,053
Speaker 4: You're a manager, yeah, okay, right, at some staff there.

1821
01:24:16,253 --> 01:24:19,492
Speaker 2: And so when we went playing indoor cricket, and when

1822
01:24:19,532 --> 01:24:20,772
Speaker 2: we were playing indoor cricket, there was a lot of

1823
01:24:20,772 --> 01:24:23,732
Speaker 2: complaints from the main store. You know, like the the

1824
01:24:24,053 --> 01:24:27,053
Speaker 2: tennis ball that I clearfully wrapped electrical tape around, it

1825
01:24:27,093 --> 01:24:30,852
Speaker 2: was swung like a demon. When I wasn't doing that. Oh,

1826
01:24:30,893 --> 01:24:34,652
Speaker 2: it'd sometimes like, well I'd made this beard out of

1827
01:24:35,853 --> 01:24:38,412
Speaker 2: out of you know, what is it? The poppy stuff?

1828
01:24:38,412 --> 01:24:39,293
Speaker 3: What's that on the bubble wrap?

1829
01:24:39,333 --> 01:24:43,133
Speaker 2: Bubble rap, nice on like a shelf like up went

1830
01:24:43,213 --> 01:24:45,732
Speaker 2: up on the big slightly ladder went up there, and

1831
01:24:46,013 --> 01:24:48,372
Speaker 2: I'd sleep for the day. That's resourceful. Yeah, I'll give

1832
01:24:48,372 --> 01:24:50,372
Speaker 2: you that. And I was managing two other staff in there,

1833
01:24:50,492 --> 01:24:51,532
Speaker 2: so you imagine what they were doing.

1834
01:24:51,532 --> 01:24:54,373
Speaker 4: What were they doing? Were they snuggled up with you? Sometimes?

1835
01:24:54,652 --> 01:24:57,932
Speaker 2: No, I'd have them, you know, putting in a test

1836
01:24:57,973 --> 01:24:59,892
Speaker 2: match over in the corner and they wanted to watch it.

1837
01:25:00,093 --> 01:25:01,772
Speaker 4: Keeping the watch out for the Big Boss. Eight one

1838
01:25:01,853 --> 01:25:04,612
Speaker 4: hundred eighty ten eighty is number to call. Do you

1839
01:25:04,692 --> 01:25:06,572
Speaker 4: have people like this in your office? If you're the

1840
01:25:06,572 --> 01:25:08,732
Speaker 4: boss or if you are one of these people, would

1841
01:25:08,772 --> 01:25:10,532
Speaker 4: love to have a chat with you. Wats your strategy? Oh,

1842
01:25:10,572 --> 01:25:12,293
Speaker 4: eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is a number to call.

1843
01:25:12,372 --> 01:25:16,412
Speaker 4: It's thirteen pasts three. News Talk said, be sixteen past three.

1844
01:25:16,452 --> 01:25:18,412
Speaker 4: We're talking about a video that's going viral by an

1845
01:25:18,412 --> 01:25:20,692
Speaker 4: Australian comedian, but it's got a lot of truth in it.

1846
01:25:20,732 --> 01:25:22,612
Speaker 4: In it, he describes the top five hours of the

1847
01:25:22,652 --> 01:25:24,572
Speaker 4: workday where he does sweet Bugger.

1848
01:25:24,692 --> 01:25:26,253
Speaker 3: Oh, it's a fantastic video.

1849
01:25:26,612 --> 01:25:29,173
Speaker 2: The sexta says, it's every employee's job to find a

1850
01:25:29,213 --> 01:25:31,213
Speaker 2: way to do as little as possible at work. Why

1851
01:25:31,253 --> 01:25:33,572
Speaker 2: wouldn't you. You're there for the money, So if you

1852
01:25:33,612 --> 01:25:35,892
Speaker 2: can get it and spend half the time in the

1853
01:25:35,893 --> 01:25:37,812
Speaker 2: toilet and go for it, I say, Unfortunately, as a

1854
01:25:37,853 --> 01:25:40,652
Speaker 2: landscape gardener, my dad is riding my ass all day.

1855
01:25:41,013 --> 01:25:43,532
Speaker 2: He gets mad if I stop for evight once every

1856
01:25:43,572 --> 01:25:48,372
Speaker 2: two hours. So it's working father and sudden operation there.

1857
01:25:48,452 --> 01:25:50,772
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a tough one to get past the old man.

1858
01:25:51,173 --> 01:25:52,893
Speaker 4: Thank you very much for that Tickso.

1859
01:25:56,412 --> 01:25:58,532
Speaker 2: Man, this is also true of Fridays. I mean, there's

1860
01:25:58,532 --> 01:26:00,892
Speaker 2: no point starting something so close to the weekend. Right,

1861
01:26:01,133 --> 01:26:03,012
Speaker 2: actually goes the same for Monday.

1862
01:26:03,093 --> 01:26:03,933
Speaker 4: Yeah, a lot of true than that.

1863
01:26:04,213 --> 01:26:06,612
Speaker 2: Andrew Well from the show, you want to talk about

1864
01:26:06,772 --> 01:26:08,093
Speaker 2: a guy you used to work with.

1865
01:26:10,133 --> 01:26:12,133
Speaker 17: About ten years ago. I used to work at a

1866
01:26:12,372 --> 01:26:18,253
Speaker 17: garden center and im twin brother who needed a job.

1867
01:26:18,772 --> 01:26:20,452
Speaker 17: And so I was a pretty hard working guy. And

1868
01:26:20,492 --> 01:26:23,053
Speaker 17: you know, they liked me working there, and they thought, oh, yeah,

1869
01:26:23,133 --> 01:26:24,852
Speaker 17: twin brother, he must be just like you.

1870
01:26:24,973 --> 01:26:25,652
Speaker 1: We'll iro hi.

1871
01:26:26,253 --> 01:26:28,852
Speaker 17: So they brought and bought and it was the total

1872
01:26:28,893 --> 01:26:32,012
Speaker 17: opposite he is. He tried to get away with as

1873
01:26:32,053 --> 01:26:34,973
Speaker 17: little as possible, and he was the unironic version of

1874
01:26:35,013 --> 01:26:37,173
Speaker 17: that skit you guys just playing. He'd be like, I'm

1875
01:26:37,173 --> 01:26:39,293
Speaker 17: taking free break, is what he would do. So I'd

1876
01:26:39,372 --> 01:26:42,892
Speaker 17: take fifteen minutes before his break, this fifteen minute break,

1877
01:26:43,732 --> 01:26:46,492
Speaker 17: and then he would take free lunch was fifteen minutes

1878
01:26:46,492 --> 01:26:49,412
Speaker 17: before lunch, and then post lunch, which was fifteen minutes

1879
01:26:49,452 --> 01:26:52,892
Speaker 17: after lunch. It was literally like that skit, and it

1880
01:26:53,013 --> 01:26:55,532
Speaker 17: got to the point of being so ridiculous where he

1881
01:26:55,572 --> 01:26:58,173
Speaker 17: would actually lead the site when he was supposed to

1882
01:26:58,173 --> 01:27:00,372
Speaker 17: be on the clock. So next door we had this

1883
01:27:00,452 --> 01:27:04,532
Speaker 17: old fellow who ran a landscaping out there, like soil

1884
01:27:04,572 --> 01:27:07,213
Speaker 17: and rocks and stuff, and he was a guy from

1885
01:27:07,333 --> 01:27:10,572
Speaker 17: Rhodesia and of the Rhodesian War, and he would talk

1886
01:27:10,772 --> 01:27:13,572
Speaker 17: years of a dead donkey about the war in Rhodesia.

1887
01:27:13,652 --> 01:27:16,253
Speaker 17: So my twin brother would leave the site and go

1888
01:27:16,372 --> 01:27:18,732
Speaker 17: chat to this guy for hours on end about the

1889
01:27:18,812 --> 01:27:21,972
Speaker 17: Rhodesian or what everyone would be going. Where the bloody

1890
01:27:22,013 --> 01:27:24,612
Speaker 17: hell is he? And I'll just check next door. Sure enough,

1891
01:27:24,652 --> 01:27:27,652
Speaker 17: he's over there chatting to the old fellow about the Rhodesian.

1892
01:27:27,173 --> 01:27:31,572
Speaker 2: Why again, And was there. What kind of oversight was

1893
01:27:31,933 --> 01:27:33,812
Speaker 2: how much work was being done? It was it was

1894
01:27:33,853 --> 01:27:34,572
Speaker 2: overlooking all this.

1895
01:27:35,772 --> 01:27:38,972
Speaker 17: Oh well there they had managers on rotation, so they

1896
01:27:39,293 --> 01:27:41,532
Speaker 17: could get away with quite a lot of it. And

1897
01:27:42,333 --> 01:27:44,532
Speaker 17: they would they'd be like, oh, where's he gone, or

1898
01:27:44,612 --> 01:27:46,612
Speaker 17: he's on lunch again, or you just couldn't find him.

1899
01:27:46,612 --> 01:27:47,892
Speaker 17: He was a bloody moving target.

1900
01:27:48,293 --> 01:27:49,452
Speaker 12: And I used to work.

1901
01:27:49,732 --> 01:27:51,692
Speaker 17: I used to work my ass off them there actually,

1902
01:27:51,732 --> 01:27:53,572
Speaker 17: And one day I was I was sort of like

1903
01:27:53,853 --> 01:27:56,013
Speaker 17: briskly running up to the up to the back of

1904
01:27:56,053 --> 01:27:58,572
Speaker 17: the shop to grab something for a customer, and he

1905
01:27:59,013 --> 01:28:00,852
Speaker 17: stopped me. He was on the opposite way and he

1906
01:28:00,893 --> 01:28:03,213
Speaker 17: stopped me. He was Andrew, what are you doing? And

1907
01:28:03,293 --> 01:28:04,692
Speaker 17: I said, I was going to go run up to

1908
01:28:04,853 --> 01:28:06,412
Speaker 17: get this thing for this customer. And he goes, why

1909
01:28:06,452 --> 01:28:08,852
Speaker 17: do you work so hard? And I'm like, I working

1910
01:28:08,853 --> 01:28:11,213
Speaker 17: hard And you go, yeah, but you don't realize, no,

1911
01:28:11,213 --> 01:28:13,452
Speaker 17: no matter how hard do you work and how little

1912
01:28:13,492 --> 01:28:15,772
Speaker 17: I do, you and I get both get paid the same.

1913
01:28:15,893 --> 01:28:17,892
Speaker 17: And like, wow, that's actually true.

1914
01:28:18,532 --> 01:28:22,052
Speaker 2: Was there was there room for advancement at that work

1915
01:28:22,133 --> 01:28:25,652
Speaker 2: because you know you're working hard, maybe you get more responsibilities,

1916
01:28:25,732 --> 01:28:27,652
Speaker 2: more pay. Was there room for you to move up

1917
01:28:27,692 --> 01:28:29,372
Speaker 2: with your hard your hard labors.

1918
01:28:30,133 --> 01:28:33,093
Speaker 17: There was I got got to a supervisor role in

1919
01:28:33,133 --> 01:28:35,652
Speaker 17: the end there, but he was that he had actually

1920
01:28:35,692 --> 01:28:38,772
Speaker 17: just come back from overseas. He'd been studying overseas, and

1921
01:28:38,812 --> 01:28:40,892
Speaker 17: that's why he I think he body is a bit

1922
01:28:41,213 --> 01:28:43,572
Speaker 17: too good for the job. So he took it as

1923
01:28:43,572 --> 01:28:45,852
Speaker 17: a challenge to get away with as little as possible.

1924
01:28:46,093 --> 01:28:48,372
Speaker 3: Yeah, Dirty, It is interesting though, Andrew.

1925
01:28:48,893 --> 01:28:51,412
Speaker 2: I mean I found in jobs. You know, I was

1926
01:28:51,412 --> 01:28:53,452
Speaker 2: working a record store once and I was not really

1927
01:28:53,492 --> 01:28:55,452
Speaker 2: enjoying it. Then I decided one day, I'm going to

1928
01:28:55,492 --> 01:28:58,333
Speaker 2: be the best employee I possibly can be. So I

1929
01:28:58,372 --> 01:29:01,253
Speaker 2: started just going hard or take customers out into the

1930
01:29:01,652 --> 01:29:03,892
Speaker 2: the store and I talked them through the music, and

1931
01:29:03,933 --> 01:29:07,652
Speaker 2: I really pushed, you know, push myself, and I ended

1932
01:29:07,732 --> 01:29:10,652
Speaker 2: up the days going a lot faster. So I think

1933
01:29:10,652 --> 01:29:13,092
Speaker 2: that there can there can be a level of slacking

1934
01:29:13,133 --> 01:29:15,133
Speaker 2: off where it just slows down the day that it

1935
01:29:15,173 --> 01:29:18,932
Speaker 2: makes it makes it worse, it does.

1936
01:29:18,973 --> 01:29:21,213
Speaker 17: But for him, it was just trying to I think

1937
01:29:21,213 --> 01:29:23,133
Speaker 17: it was a challenge, Like it was almost to the

1938
01:29:23,133 --> 01:29:25,772
Speaker 17: point of hilarity of where where is he gone and

1939
01:29:25,812 --> 01:29:27,813
Speaker 17: what is he doing that doesn't involve.

1940
01:29:27,452 --> 01:29:31,092
Speaker 4: Working When you became a supervisor, Andrew, did you supervise

1941
01:29:31,173 --> 01:29:33,372
Speaker 4: him or he'd scarpeted by that that stage and see

1942
01:29:33,412 --> 01:29:34,732
Speaker 4: the game's up. I'm done.

1943
01:29:35,093 --> 01:29:38,532
Speaker 17: He got out of there, so he they gave him

1944
01:29:38,532 --> 01:29:40,932
Speaker 17: a Redden warning. He's like, oh, you know, this is

1945
01:29:40,973 --> 01:29:43,093
Speaker 17: not fun anymore. And then he went and did something else.

1946
01:29:43,372 --> 01:29:45,732
Speaker 17: I'm sure that didn't actually involve doing anything at all.

1947
01:29:45,933 --> 01:29:46,412
Speaker 11: Yeah.

1948
01:29:46,572 --> 01:29:48,852
Speaker 4: I wonder where he is today, still still doing the

1949
01:29:48,853 --> 01:29:49,772
Speaker 4: same thing, no doubt.

1950
01:29:51,412 --> 01:29:52,133
Speaker 12: Yeah.

1951
01:29:52,173 --> 01:29:54,412
Speaker 17: Actually, oddly enough he changed his ways a couple of

1952
01:29:54,452 --> 01:29:57,333
Speaker 17: years later, and now he works is the financial advisor.

1953
01:29:58,173 --> 01:29:58,372
Speaker 4: Right.

1954
01:29:58,772 --> 01:30:02,293
Speaker 2: See that that can happen. It can happen that sometimes

1955
01:30:02,692 --> 01:30:05,692
Speaker 2: just a flickle switch, A switch will flick and someone

1956
01:30:05,732 --> 01:30:08,013
Speaker 2: will suddenly become a model employee.

1957
01:30:08,452 --> 01:30:08,692
Speaker 11: Yeah.

1958
01:30:08,732 --> 01:30:11,612
Speaker 4: True, Andrew, that's a great story mate, Thank you very

1959
01:30:11,652 --> 01:30:13,253
Speaker 4: much for giving us a bus. I wait one hundred

1960
01:30:13,293 --> 01:30:16,333
Speaker 4: eighty ten eighty. If you're a boss of a company,

1961
01:30:16,372 --> 01:30:18,492
Speaker 4: you or a manager for that matter of you got

1962
01:30:18,532 --> 01:30:22,052
Speaker 4: someone in your organization that has these muck around hours

1963
01:30:22,093 --> 01:30:22,812
Speaker 4: love to hear from you.

1964
01:30:23,452 --> 01:30:25,812
Speaker 2: These people are called sense of lights. Only work when

1965
01:30:25,853 --> 01:30:28,133
Speaker 2: there is movement or movement when the boss or other

1966
01:30:28,213 --> 01:30:31,133
Speaker 2: staff are around. Cheers, John, See I was working at

1967
01:30:31,133 --> 01:30:32,772
Speaker 2: a place and there was this guy that we were

1968
01:30:32,772 --> 01:30:34,692
Speaker 2: just sitting around at work drinks and he goes, God,

1969
01:30:34,732 --> 01:30:37,333
Speaker 2: don't you hate it when you're in the bathroom and

1970
01:30:37,452 --> 01:30:39,812
Speaker 2: it had an automatic light that went off after ten minutes.

1971
01:30:39,853 --> 01:30:41,652
Speaker 2: He goes, I just hate it in the bathroom and

1972
01:30:41,692 --> 01:30:43,452
Speaker 2: then the light goes off and you're stuck in the

1973
01:30:43,492 --> 01:30:46,852
Speaker 2: bathroom in the dark. You can't find your way out.

1974
01:30:47,933 --> 01:30:50,612
Speaker 2: I was like, what, No, Like.

1975
01:30:50,893 --> 01:30:52,892
Speaker 4: How long are you in there for? I was spending

1976
01:30:52,933 --> 01:30:53,333
Speaker 4: the lights?

1977
01:30:53,732 --> 01:30:55,933
Speaker 2: Who's spending so long in there that it regularly the

1978
01:30:56,013 --> 01:30:58,452
Speaker 2: light turns off? It's not an hour time And he goes,

1979
01:30:58,492 --> 01:30:59,852
Speaker 2: and then he goes, I have to hop out with

1980
01:30:59,893 --> 01:31:01,492
Speaker 2: my pants down and jump up and down in the

1981
01:31:01,492 --> 01:31:03,492
Speaker 2: middle of the bathroom to get the light to go

1982
01:31:03,572 --> 01:31:03,852
Speaker 2: back on.

1983
01:31:04,612 --> 01:31:06,892
Speaker 4: So good, right, twenty two parts three O eight one

1984
01:31:06,933 --> 01:31:09,173
Speaker 4: hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to cool. Love

1985
01:31:09,213 --> 01:31:10,612
Speaker 4: to hear your thoughts on this one.

1986
01:31:10,973 --> 01:31:18,772
Speaker 1: Back in the month, Matt Heathan Tyler Adams afternoons, call oh,

1987
01:31:18,772 --> 01:31:21,932
Speaker 1: eight hundred eighty ten eighty on Youth Talk ZB very.

1988
01:31:21,772 --> 01:31:24,772
Speaker 4: Good afternoon till it's twenty four past three and we're

1989
01:31:24,812 --> 01:31:26,653
Speaker 4: talking about those people in a workplace.

1990
01:31:26,893 --> 01:31:27,772
Speaker 3: It might be yourself.

1991
01:31:27,772 --> 01:31:30,532
Speaker 4: Actually, no judgment here where you've got those hours in

1992
01:31:30,572 --> 01:31:31,973
Speaker 4: the workday, will you know you do?

1993
01:31:32,013 --> 01:31:32,852
Speaker 3: Sweet bug rule?

1994
01:31:33,532 --> 01:31:36,013
Speaker 4: Really can hear from your eight hundred and eighty ten eighty.

1995
01:31:35,812 --> 01:31:39,012
Speaker 2: Hey, guys, as long as you get your job done

1996
01:31:39,053 --> 01:31:41,173
Speaker 2: to a good standard. If you find time to play

1997
01:31:41,213 --> 01:31:43,892
Speaker 2: around and be lazy, that's fine. Work hard, play hard.

1998
01:31:44,173 --> 01:31:45,892
Speaker 2: You have to enjoy your job. I work on a

1999
01:31:45,933 --> 01:31:48,932
Speaker 2: farm and often get distracted hunting, I mean pest control.

2000
01:31:49,133 --> 01:31:51,412
Speaker 2: Boss doesn't mind they do it too.

2001
01:31:51,692 --> 01:31:52,692
Speaker 3: It's an interesting point.

2002
01:31:52,732 --> 01:31:55,093
Speaker 2: I mean that that's true. I mean there's a high

2003
01:31:55,652 --> 01:31:59,132
Speaker 2: high achiever who finds some extra time as very different

2004
01:31:59,133 --> 01:32:01,532
Speaker 2: from someone who's coming to work with the intention just

2005
01:32:01,612 --> 01:32:03,532
Speaker 2: to try and do as little as they can in

2006
01:32:03,612 --> 01:32:04,253
Speaker 2: the day.

2007
01:32:04,412 --> 01:32:08,132
Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly nine two ninety two is the text number.

2008
01:32:08,612 --> 01:32:11,532
Speaker 4: This one's a good text. Hey, guys. In the Japanese

2009
01:32:11,572 --> 01:32:14,732
Speaker 4: corporate culture, they have a phenomenon knowing as the windows

2010
01:32:14,853 --> 01:32:17,692
Speaker 4: side tribe. These are typically older workers who don't have

2011
01:32:17,772 --> 01:32:21,532
Speaker 4: to do anything as a reward for loyalty. Can you

2012
01:32:21,572 --> 01:32:24,133
Speaker 4: please find where I sign up? That's from Karl.

2013
01:32:24,293 --> 01:32:26,253
Speaker 2: I just saw something about this the other day. I

2014
01:32:26,372 --> 01:32:30,372
Speaker 2: was reading about it. I think that. How do you

2015
01:32:30,412 --> 01:32:34,733
Speaker 2: pronounce it? It's like I think it's hata hartara, kanai

2016
01:32:35,612 --> 01:32:39,532
Speaker 2: or jisan, which means an older, often near retired, male

2017
01:32:39,572 --> 01:32:42,612
Speaker 2: employee with minimal or no duties and a lot of

2018
01:32:42,612 --> 01:32:45,372
Speaker 2: workplaces someone can converne them. That's true. We used to

2019
01:32:45,412 --> 01:32:47,052
Speaker 2: sort of hang around the office.

2020
01:32:47,173 --> 01:32:50,213
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, But isn't that like a way for the

2021
01:32:50,333 --> 01:32:53,412
Speaker 4: Japanese to kind of say you're not wanted here anymore,

2022
01:32:53,452 --> 01:32:56,052
Speaker 4: that they just stop giving you work if they really

2023
01:32:56,532 --> 01:32:59,652
Speaker 4: don't like you around. Instead of confronting you insane you

2024
01:32:59,652 --> 01:33:01,932
Speaker 4: shouldn't be here anymore, they just stop giving you work

2025
01:33:02,013 --> 01:33:03,532
Speaker 4: until eventually you get bored and quit.

2026
01:33:04,013 --> 01:33:04,333
Speaker 16: Well.

2027
01:33:04,652 --> 01:33:07,253
Speaker 2: Yeah. A twenty twenty two survey found that forty nine

2028
01:33:07,253 --> 01:33:09,532
Speaker 2: percent of younger Japanese will because reported their companies had

2029
01:33:09,532 --> 01:33:13,333
Speaker 2: such an individual who often spends their time taking long breaks,

2030
01:33:13,372 --> 01:33:17,213
Speaker 2: steering blankly, or chatting idly. The practice reflects a cultural

2031
01:33:17,253 --> 01:33:20,293
Speaker 2: respect for elders and loyalty, but it causes frustrations and

2032
01:33:20,333 --> 01:33:23,333
Speaker 2: a feeling of being over birming among younger staff. I

2033
01:33:23,412 --> 01:33:26,212
Speaker 2: loved it by needed for a more merit based system

2034
01:33:26,532 --> 01:33:30,013
Speaker 2: than a hata. Rah can't say or just on.

2035
01:33:30,133 --> 01:33:31,772
Speaker 4: It's a good gig. If you can get it, Yeah,

2036
01:33:32,133 --> 01:33:34,012
Speaker 4: just staring at your screen. Then can we get one?

2037
01:33:34,093 --> 01:33:36,452
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd like one over there in the corner me too,

2038
01:33:36,572 --> 01:33:37,533
Speaker 2: be good from around.

2039
01:33:37,372 --> 01:33:37,972
Speaker 3: On your service.

2040
01:33:38,692 --> 01:33:43,092
Speaker 4: Oh, one hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call. Phil,

2041
01:33:43,213 --> 01:33:43,852
Speaker 4: How are you, mate?

2042
01:33:46,053 --> 01:33:48,052
Speaker 16: Not too bad things, Tyler? How are you? And Matt?

2043
01:33:48,452 --> 01:33:48,652
Speaker 5: Yeah?

2044
01:33:48,692 --> 01:33:49,213
Speaker 3: Good good?

2045
01:33:49,853 --> 01:33:51,812
Speaker 4: And you used to work with a couple of people

2046
01:33:51,812 --> 01:33:52,772
Speaker 4: who operated like this.

2047
01:33:54,213 --> 01:33:57,173
Speaker 16: Yeah, I got a couples. I'll just say before I

2048
01:33:57,253 --> 01:34:03,173
Speaker 16: start toilet, simply for your nan And you were quite

2049
01:34:03,253 --> 01:34:05,932
Speaker 16: right about the smile of the Stranger's what you said

2050
01:34:05,933 --> 01:34:08,452
Speaker 16: at the top of the show, if you remember.

2051
01:34:08,452 --> 01:34:10,812
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, thank you very much, mate, really appreciate that

2052
01:34:10,853 --> 01:34:13,772
Speaker 4: your bang on. That kindness of strangers certainly goes a

2053
01:34:13,772 --> 01:34:16,013
Speaker 4: long way, gives you that boost you need sometimes.

2054
01:34:16,612 --> 01:34:18,612
Speaker 16: Sometimes he had just to lift you up that we

2055
01:34:18,692 --> 01:34:22,492
Speaker 16: lift from her just a wee smile, you know, Yeah,

2056
01:34:22,532 --> 01:34:26,532
Speaker 16: definitely Yeah. But yeah, I won't mention. I feel a

2057
01:34:26,572 --> 01:34:28,532
Speaker 16: bit guilty about one fellow because he's a good fellow.

2058
01:34:28,572 --> 01:34:30,013
Speaker 16: So I won't even see your names of that. But

2059
01:34:30,612 --> 01:34:33,532
Speaker 16: the last caller said about the last caller when we're

2060
01:34:33,532 --> 01:34:35,692
Speaker 16: saying about you get paid the same as to remember,

2061
01:34:35,772 --> 01:34:38,732
Speaker 16: we I get paid the same as you, you know,

2062
01:34:38,532 --> 01:34:41,692
Speaker 16: and I'm not doing any less work. And I worked

2063
01:34:41,732 --> 01:34:45,812
Speaker 16: in a place and they had a policy of first on,

2064
01:34:46,853 --> 01:34:48,852
Speaker 16: last on, first off, you know, when it comes to

2065
01:34:48,893 --> 01:34:50,692
Speaker 16: your job and that. And one of the fellows we

2066
01:34:50,772 --> 01:34:53,053
Speaker 16: had these guys coming and they started banging out these

2067
01:34:53,053 --> 01:34:55,772
Speaker 16: big totals and one of the fellows that I'd worked

2068
01:34:55,772 --> 01:34:58,852
Speaker 16: with for quite a while said to me, you look

2069
01:34:58,893 --> 01:35:01,612
Speaker 16: at those silly buggers. He said, what they don't realize

2070
01:35:01,652 --> 01:35:03,892
Speaker 16: is they banging out all these totals trying to impress

2071
01:35:03,933 --> 01:35:06,892
Speaker 16: the boss. I'm just putting my average normal thing out,

2072
01:35:06,973 --> 01:35:09,092
Speaker 16: not busting me guts. But I'm going to be ahead

2073
01:35:09,133 --> 01:35:11,093
Speaker 16: before they are, because they're going to get laid off

2074
01:35:11,093 --> 01:35:14,372
Speaker 16: first because I started well after them for a number

2075
01:35:14,372 --> 01:35:16,612
Speaker 16: of years. And he was quite right, that's exactly what happened.

2076
01:35:17,093 --> 01:35:20,173
Speaker 16: And another guy, another guy that I worked with working

2077
01:35:20,253 --> 01:35:24,333
Speaker 16: over it was overseas. I won't mention the names here

2078
01:35:24,333 --> 01:35:26,692
Speaker 16: because it's not going to affect anybody. But I worked

2079
01:35:26,692 --> 01:35:30,093
Speaker 16: on the skifield in Colorado up the Rockies for a

2080
01:35:30,133 --> 01:35:33,612
Speaker 16: while called Keystone Nice and I was, yeah, yeah, it

2081
01:35:33,652 --> 01:35:36,133
Speaker 16: was a great gig. Didn't pay much, but it was

2082
01:35:36,173 --> 01:35:40,173
Speaker 16: the lifestyle in that and the young fellow that I

2083
01:35:40,213 --> 01:35:42,452
Speaker 16: worked with was in the maintenance department. One of their

2084
01:35:42,532 --> 01:35:46,692
Speaker 16: jobs was to at the end of the night to

2085
01:35:46,893 --> 01:35:49,532
Speaker 16: cover up the swimming pools and the spars and all

2086
01:35:49,532 --> 01:35:51,412
Speaker 16: that sort of thing, because it was a big resort

2087
01:35:51,412 --> 01:35:53,412
Speaker 16: where the guests would stay on site neck, you know.

2088
01:35:53,893 --> 01:35:56,452
Speaker 16: And I remember one he was a hard case. And

2089
01:35:56,452 --> 01:35:59,852
Speaker 16: I remember one day saying to me, goes, oh, he goes,

2090
01:36:00,452 --> 01:36:02,973
Speaker 16: I actually get the guests to close and cover the

2091
01:36:02,973 --> 01:36:05,093
Speaker 16: swimming pool up themselves. I tell them that they've got

2092
01:36:05,173 --> 01:36:07,213
Speaker 16: to do it as a condition of using it. And

2093
01:36:09,772 --> 01:36:14,173
Speaker 16: he said, he says, oh, the boss has given me

2094
01:36:14,213 --> 01:36:16,213
Speaker 16: all those crap jobs and that they're trying to get

2095
01:36:16,253 --> 01:36:18,372
Speaker 16: me frustrated and make me quick. But he says, I

2096
01:36:18,412 --> 01:36:20,253
Speaker 16: don't give her. He says, I don't give her rats.

2097
01:36:20,293 --> 01:36:22,253
Speaker 16: I'm here for the lifestyle. But it's just faded me

2098
01:36:22,372 --> 01:36:26,213
Speaker 16: laugh as the attitude, you know of the guy saying

2099
01:36:26,253 --> 01:36:28,053
Speaker 16: to the cause, I could just imagine it, you know,

2100
01:36:28,133 --> 01:36:30,532
Speaker 16: like the guests who you're supposed to look arker, and

2101
01:36:30,572 --> 01:36:33,093
Speaker 16: it's part of your job, you know, to open up

2102
01:36:33,133 --> 01:36:35,173
Speaker 16: the swimming pools in the morning and close them down.

2103
01:36:35,213 --> 01:36:39,692
Speaker 16: And that night saying to these guests who'll be sitting here. Look, sorry,

2104
01:36:40,372 --> 01:36:42,692
Speaker 16: swimming pools closed now, but you're going to have to

2105
01:36:42,692 --> 01:36:44,812
Speaker 16: get out and cover it all up in that and.

2106
01:36:45,412 --> 01:36:47,812
Speaker 4: Smart outsourcing, Phil, Yeah, I've got to say on a

2107
01:36:47,853 --> 01:36:49,333
Speaker 4: skifield there are a lot of slackers.

2108
01:36:49,732 --> 01:36:52,412
Speaker 2: Yeah, look that's please don't say my own name, Okay,

2109
01:36:52,492 --> 01:36:54,932
Speaker 2: I won't boy like I didn't. I'm a site manager

2110
01:36:54,973 --> 01:36:56,852
Speaker 2: and I lead a team. I may take a few

2111
01:36:56,933 --> 01:37:00,093
Speaker 2: frames doing what I do. Then, as you know, Matt,

2112
01:37:00,173 --> 01:37:02,452
Speaker 2: delegation is a beautiful thing. I divvy out more work

2113
01:37:02,492 --> 01:37:05,892
Speaker 2: than I do get it done though, clever. So I

2114
01:37:05,893 --> 01:37:09,293
Speaker 2: mean that's that's what do you call it? That's being

2115
01:37:09,293 --> 01:37:11,933
Speaker 2: slacked from above? Yeah, but you know someone's going to

2116
01:37:11,933 --> 01:37:14,692
Speaker 2: div the workout exactly it gets done. If you've risen

2117
01:37:14,732 --> 01:37:17,532
Speaker 2: to the point whether you're managing people and you're divvying

2118
01:37:17,612 --> 01:37:21,173
Speaker 2: out in in such a way that you can nip

2119
01:37:21,213 --> 01:37:23,093
Speaker 2: off and play some golf, then well done.

2120
01:37:23,293 --> 01:37:24,093
Speaker 3: Yeah, hat's off to you.

2121
01:37:24,333 --> 01:37:26,652
Speaker 4: Oh, one hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to

2122
01:37:26,692 --> 01:37:28,333
Speaker 4: call love to hear from you. Do you have someone

2123
01:37:28,372 --> 01:37:31,253
Speaker 4: in your work that's quite strategic about the lack of

2124
01:37:31,253 --> 01:37:33,293
Speaker 4: work they do at certain hours or if that's you

2125
01:37:33,452 --> 01:37:36,093
Speaker 4: really can never chat with you. It is past three.

2126
01:37:36,213 --> 01:37:40,093
Speaker 2: And if you know any more about these ujisans, old

2127
01:37:40,492 --> 01:37:43,412
Speaker 2: men that sit in the corner of nearly fifty percent

2128
01:37:43,452 --> 01:37:45,092
Speaker 2: of Japanese officers doing nothing.

2129
01:37:45,213 --> 01:37:46,972
Speaker 4: Yeah, we need to hear more on that one.

2130
01:37:49,732 --> 01:37:52,852
Speaker 13: US talk say headlines with blue bubble taxis, it's no

2131
01:37:53,013 --> 01:37:56,572
Speaker 13: trouble with a blue bubble. Australian media is reporting two

2132
01:37:56,652 --> 01:38:00,012
Speaker 13: police officers are dead and another's wounded after a shooting

2133
01:38:00,093 --> 01:38:04,413
Speaker 13: in northeast Victoria. The age says heavy gunfire has prevented

2134
01:38:04,452 --> 01:38:07,973
Speaker 13: officers from entering a rural property in pork Punker, three

2135
01:38:08,053 --> 01:38:13,293
Speaker 13: hundred kilometres northeast of Melbourne. Australia has expelled the Iranian

2136
01:38:13,333 --> 01:38:17,292
Speaker 13: ambassador after finding Iran directed at least two anti Semitic

2137
01:38:17,333 --> 01:38:21,213
Speaker 13: attacks in the country. It's also listing the Iranian Revolutionary

2138
01:38:21,253 --> 01:38:25,492
Speaker 13: Guard Corps as a terrorist entity. The government says thirty

2139
01:38:25,532 --> 01:38:29,132
Speaker 13: billion dollars worth of infrastructure projects have joined the National

2140
01:38:29,173 --> 01:38:31,732
Speaker 13: Pipeline in the last few months. There are now over

2141
01:38:31,933 --> 01:38:35,892
Speaker 13: nine two hundred projects collectively valued at two hundred and

2142
01:38:35,893 --> 01:38:40,333
Speaker 13: thirty seven billion dollars underway or being planned. The search

2143
01:38:40,372 --> 01:38:42,772
Speaker 13: for a boat reported to have been swamped by water

2144
01:38:42,853 --> 01:38:46,013
Speaker 13: and cook Strait has been suspended after police found no

2145
01:38:46,133 --> 01:38:49,692
Speaker 13: objects of interest. The government's bringing in tougher rules to

2146
01:38:49,772 --> 01:38:53,092
Speaker 13: ban dogs being chained up for a prolonged period of time.

2147
01:38:53,692 --> 01:38:57,412
Speaker 13: Plus teens are using chat bots as therapists. That's alarming.

2148
01:38:57,572 --> 01:39:00,492
Speaker 13: Read the full story at Enzed Herald Premium. Now back

2149
01:39:00,532 --> 01:39:01,333
Speaker 13: to Matt and Tyler.

2150
01:39:01,572 --> 01:39:04,253
Speaker 4: Thank you very much, Wendy, And we're talking about those

2151
01:39:04,253 --> 01:39:06,133
Speaker 4: people in your workplace where it might even be you

2152
01:39:06,412 --> 01:39:09,013
Speaker 4: who uses a strategy. I've set hours of the day

2153
01:39:09,013 --> 01:39:11,013
Speaker 4: to do sweet bugger all oh e one hundred and

2154
01:39:11,013 --> 01:39:12,932
Speaker 4: eighty ten eight years and number to call a few

2155
01:39:12,973 --> 01:39:15,932
Speaker 4: techs coming through about what you mentioned before. The Japanese

2156
01:39:15,973 --> 01:39:21,093
Speaker 4: phenomenon no one airs madogiwa Zuku describes older employees who

2157
01:39:21,093 --> 01:39:23,173
Speaker 4: are kept on the payroll with little to no actual

2158
01:39:23,213 --> 01:39:24,692
Speaker 4: work as a sign of respect.

2159
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Speaker 2: What are you calling it? I was calling uji song.

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01:39:26,933 --> 01:39:29,173
Speaker 4: Oh this was your son, this one, says madow ghi

2161
01:39:29,253 --> 01:39:30,012
Speaker 4: wa Zuku.

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01:39:30,372 --> 01:39:32,412
Speaker 2: Ah right, okay, okay, Well I'm not sure what the

2163
01:39:32,412 --> 01:39:33,013
Speaker 2: exact one is.

2164
01:39:33,333 --> 01:39:34,372
Speaker 3: We'll get to the bottom of that.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, forty nine point seven percent. Yeah, it seems

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01:39:37,133 --> 01:39:38,972
Speaker 2: like a good cases Heaven would you sign an old

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01:39:38,973 --> 01:39:43,012
Speaker 2: man sitting in the corner, Chris, welcome to the show.

2168
01:39:44,093 --> 01:39:48,372
Speaker 2: You joined your han Yeah, so what's your story, Chris,

2169
01:39:48,412 --> 01:39:49,612
Speaker 2: I'm just trying to work it out there.

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01:39:50,853 --> 01:39:51,452
Speaker 18: Gooday, lads.

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01:39:51,973 --> 01:39:55,052
Speaker 26: Yeah, I've been with my company now almost fifteen years,

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01:39:55,093 --> 01:39:58,173
Speaker 26: and after a few years, I realized that it seemed

2173
01:39:58,173 --> 01:40:00,092
Speaker 26: to be those that do the least around the office

2174
01:40:00,133 --> 01:40:01,052
Speaker 26: that get promoted.

2175
01:40:01,133 --> 01:40:03,093
Speaker 5: So I decided I'd give it a go.

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01:40:03,293 --> 01:40:04,053
Speaker 1: And what do you and know?

2177
01:40:04,133 --> 01:40:05,932
Speaker 5: I got promoted And after.

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01:40:05,772 --> 01:40:07,452
Speaker 26: All these years, now I'm the manager of the team.

2179
01:40:07,492 --> 01:40:08,572
Speaker 24: But I fear get.

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01:40:08,973 --> 01:40:10,572
Speaker 26: The trick to it is you just sit there with

2181
01:40:10,612 --> 01:40:12,932
Speaker 26: a concerned look on your face, and no one seems

2182
01:40:12,933 --> 01:40:13,532
Speaker 26: to question you.

2183
01:40:13,973 --> 01:40:14,333
Speaker 4: Smart.

2184
01:40:14,612 --> 01:40:17,412
Speaker 26: You never tell anything, never tell anybody when you've finished

2185
01:40:17,452 --> 01:40:19,492
Speaker 26: all your tasks, so that you're not busy, and you

2186
01:40:19,612 --> 01:40:20,812
Speaker 26: seem to slip through the cracks.

2187
01:40:20,853 --> 01:40:22,812
Speaker 5: And I tell my team members the same thing.

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01:40:22,893 --> 01:40:24,412
Speaker 26: Just don't make me look bad, make sure you keep

2189
01:40:24,452 --> 01:40:25,772
Speaker 26: your targets and you're all good.

2190
01:40:26,893 --> 01:40:29,732
Speaker 2: Right, And so how quickly did your career turn around

2191
01:40:29,772 --> 01:40:32,533
Speaker 2: when you started running this operation?

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01:40:32,692 --> 01:40:35,572
Speaker 26: Honestly within about six months to be.

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01:40:35,532 --> 01:40:36,812
Speaker 4: Honest, Oh, well pretty fast.

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01:40:37,133 --> 01:40:37,333
Speaker 22: Yeah.

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01:40:37,372 --> 01:40:39,012
Speaker 26: They always say there's a bit of a boys club

2196
01:40:39,013 --> 01:40:39,812
Speaker 26: in the office, and they.

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01:40:39,692 --> 01:40:40,572
Speaker 24: Weren't lying so.

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01:40:42,093 --> 01:40:42,452
Speaker 3: Smart.

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01:40:43,372 --> 01:40:44,972
Speaker 5: I try to look.

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01:40:44,853 --> 01:40:47,412
Speaker 26: After the ones that work beneath me now and make

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01:40:47,452 --> 01:40:50,213
Speaker 26: sure that they're all their careers are going well and everything.

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01:40:50,253 --> 01:40:53,732
Speaker 4: But yeah, so now you've moved into that manager position,

2203
01:40:54,412 --> 01:40:57,093
Speaker 4: do you give the younger boys and you know what,

2204
01:40:57,213 --> 01:40:58,852
Speaker 4: you know what the tricks are, do you give them away?

2205
01:40:59,293 --> 01:41:00,772
Speaker 4: We tap on the shoulder and say, I know what

2206
01:41:00,812 --> 01:41:02,293
Speaker 4: you're doing here, but if you keep doing it, you

2207
01:41:02,293 --> 01:41:02,932
Speaker 4: may get ahead.

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01:41:04,933 --> 01:41:06,812
Speaker 26: No, I just tell them, you know, sometimes you have

2209
01:41:06,933 --> 01:41:09,772
Speaker 26: downtime in the office and you don't always have to

2210
01:41:09,772 --> 01:41:11,732
Speaker 26: fill it with something that's not your job. So as

2211
01:41:11,692 --> 01:41:14,812
Speaker 26: so long as you're just looks like you're keeping busy

2212
01:41:14,853 --> 01:41:18,372
Speaker 26: and you're hitting your targets, hitting your kpies, you don't

2213
01:41:18,412 --> 01:41:20,812
Speaker 26: have to go out of your way to make it

2214
01:41:20,812 --> 01:41:21,932
Speaker 26: look like you're doing something.

2215
01:41:22,333 --> 01:41:23,852
Speaker 8: And I'll always advocate for them.

2216
01:41:24,053 --> 01:41:26,293
Speaker 26: You know that they're doing an amazing job and hitting

2217
01:41:26,293 --> 01:41:27,253
Speaker 26: all their targets, and.

2218
01:41:28,093 --> 01:41:29,532
Speaker 9: Actually it does well for them.

2219
01:41:30,053 --> 01:41:31,852
Speaker 2: There's an interesting type of person in a workplace that

2220
01:41:31,893 --> 01:41:34,612
Speaker 2: I'm often suspicious of. The person that's always saying how

2221
01:41:34,652 --> 01:41:36,892
Speaker 2: busy they are, how busy they are, how run off

2222
01:41:36,933 --> 01:41:38,612
Speaker 2: their feet there are, and that they spend a lot

2223
01:41:38,652 --> 01:41:40,932
Speaker 2: of time talking about being busy, and I always wonder,

2224
01:41:42,013 --> 01:41:43,372
Speaker 2: is this a PLOYT Can.

2225
01:41:43,333 --> 01:41:45,293
Speaker 4: You give me your schedule so I can see what

2226
01:41:45,333 --> 01:41:46,692
Speaker 4: you're actually doing hour by hour?

2227
01:41:46,853 --> 01:41:50,692
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're just absolutely it snowed under right now, flooded

2228
01:41:51,652 --> 01:41:53,692
Speaker 2: so busy right now. I can't take it. I'm just

2229
01:41:53,732 --> 01:41:56,013
Speaker 2: so stressed. I'm sorry. I can't do that. And then

2230
01:41:56,053 --> 01:41:57,732
Speaker 2: really what they're doing is just they're doing with Chris there,

2231
01:41:57,772 --> 01:41:59,372
Speaker 2: they're just sitting staring at the computer with a frown

2232
01:41:59,412 --> 01:41:59,932
Speaker 2: on their face.

2233
01:42:02,732 --> 01:42:05,093
Speaker 4: Chris, nice to chat with you, mate, Thank you very much.

2234
01:42:05,173 --> 01:42:07,253
Speaker 4: Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number

2235
01:42:07,293 --> 01:42:10,532
Speaker 4: to call. Some good thanks coming through to Dennis.

2236
01:42:10,572 --> 01:42:13,213
Speaker 3: Get Dennis, Yeah, him and Tyler.

2237
01:42:13,652 --> 01:42:16,852
Speaker 20: This morning goes back a few years. I worked for

2238
01:42:16,933 --> 01:42:24,173
Speaker 20: a big company in christ here and we had a

2239
01:42:24,253 --> 01:42:30,293
Speaker 20: dark room in our particular departments, and we had one

2240
01:42:30,293 --> 01:42:33,692
Speaker 20: of the one guys we work with. He kept on

2241
01:42:33,812 --> 01:42:36,852
Speaker 20: disappearing all the time, and we always thought he was

2242
01:42:37,133 --> 01:42:39,572
Speaker 20: doing something in one of the other departments or whatever.

2243
01:42:40,492 --> 01:42:43,732
Speaker 20: And one day one of the girls worked with us,

2244
01:42:44,933 --> 01:42:51,972
Speaker 20: she went into the dark room to process some work

2245
01:42:52,053 --> 01:42:57,093
Speaker 20: she was doing, and everything was going fine, and then

2246
01:42:57,133 --> 01:42:59,173
Speaker 20: there was one hell of a screen and she come

2247
01:42:59,293 --> 01:43:02,732
Speaker 20: running out and said for the boss. There's somebody in

2248
01:43:02,772 --> 01:43:07,133
Speaker 20: the cupboard. She reached in to get some chemicals out

2249
01:43:07,173 --> 01:43:13,053
Speaker 20: of there. He went, and here's the person concerned. He

2250
01:43:13,452 --> 01:43:18,452
Speaker 20: made a bed in the cupboards where the chemicals, cheepskin

2251
01:43:18,572 --> 01:43:22,532
Speaker 20: rugs in there. It'd quietly go in there and have

2252
01:43:22,612 --> 01:43:23,532
Speaker 20: a sweet.

2253
01:43:24,973 --> 01:43:25,173
Speaker 1: Love.

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01:43:25,253 --> 01:43:26,692
Speaker 3: That I mean he pulled off of met Heath.

2255
01:43:26,732 --> 01:43:29,092
Speaker 4: I don't know if you heard matt story but before Dennis,

2256
01:43:29,133 --> 01:43:30,892
Speaker 4: but that it was exactly what Matt Heath was doing

2257
01:43:30,893 --> 01:43:33,452
Speaker 4: in this factory. A nice beautiful we beard up in

2258
01:43:33,492 --> 01:43:36,372
Speaker 4: the factory when no one was looking. Just every we snooze.

2259
01:43:36,572 --> 01:43:39,612
Speaker 2: Wasn't a factory, Tyler was a warehouse.

2260
01:43:39,652 --> 01:43:40,253
Speaker 4: Oh warehouse.

2261
01:43:40,732 --> 01:43:43,293
Speaker 3: Sorry, it didn't end there.

2262
01:43:43,372 --> 01:43:48,253
Speaker 20: They found he was working on small parts of his

2263
01:43:48,372 --> 01:43:50,053
Speaker 20: classic car.

2264
01:43:50,093 --> 01:43:50,732
Speaker 2: In the cupboard.

2265
01:43:51,412 --> 01:43:58,452
Speaker 4: Yeah, who was this guy? Bits of car?

2266
01:43:59,253 --> 01:44:01,893
Speaker 20: Yeah?

2267
01:44:02,013 --> 01:44:04,093
Speaker 4: So how long did he last with the company. Was

2268
01:44:04,093 --> 01:44:05,492
Speaker 4: that was at the end of him or they keep

2269
01:44:05,572 --> 01:44:06,492
Speaker 4: him around for a bit longer.

2270
01:44:06,933 --> 01:44:10,692
Speaker 20: The bostictemore the sort of job we were doing. We

2271
01:44:10,692 --> 01:44:13,333
Speaker 20: were a bit three and a pine at that stage,

2272
01:44:13,372 --> 01:44:13,652
Speaker 20: you know.

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01:44:14,173 --> 01:44:19,812
Speaker 2: Yeah, so yeah, yeah, I've never gotten that, thank you

2274
01:44:19,812 --> 01:44:22,972
Speaker 2: for your call, Dennis. Okay, so there's there's a character.

2275
01:44:23,412 --> 01:44:24,852
Speaker 2: Let's some clarification. He has come through.

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01:44:24,893 --> 01:44:25,173
Speaker 5: Okay.

2277
01:44:25,213 --> 01:44:28,013
Speaker 2: Auji san just means a middle aged man. Okay, so

2278
01:44:28,053 --> 01:44:32,293
Speaker 2: I've got it wrong, all right. Mado gia zuku refers

2279
01:44:32,333 --> 01:44:35,652
Speaker 2: to people who get sat by the window window out

2280
01:44:35,652 --> 01:44:38,452
Speaker 2: of everyone's way for various reasons, usually because they're too

2281
01:44:38,532 --> 01:44:41,572
Speaker 2: close to retirement to be much of use anyone, according

2282
01:44:41,572 --> 01:44:44,492
Speaker 2: to everyone else in the office anyway, So maybe it's

2283
01:44:44,612 --> 01:44:46,812
Speaker 2: not Yeah, it's kind of what you were saying before, Tyler.

2284
01:44:46,853 --> 01:44:48,892
Speaker 2: So we're thinking about it as a whimsical thing where

2285
01:44:48,893 --> 01:44:52,013
Speaker 2: you've just got an old man in the office and

2286
01:44:52,213 --> 01:44:55,213
Speaker 2: out of a mark of respect, he's been allowed to

2287
01:44:55,213 --> 01:44:58,852
Speaker 2: just sit by the window. But the madou gia zuku

2288
01:44:59,612 --> 01:45:01,572
Speaker 2: might be just you're no good to anyone to sit

2289
01:45:01,572 --> 01:45:01,932
Speaker 2: over there.

2290
01:45:02,293 --> 01:45:04,133
Speaker 4: You can't do anything, so sit in the corner and

2291
01:45:04,133 --> 01:45:06,933
Speaker 4: shut up. Oh, one hundred and eighty ten eighty is

2292
01:45:06,973 --> 01:45:09,092
Speaker 4: the number to call. We've got a play some messages,

2293
01:45:09,093 --> 01:45:10,652
Speaker 4: but plenty of calls to get to. But love to

2294
01:45:10,692 --> 01:45:13,293
Speaker 4: hear from you. If you've got someone in your office

2295
01:45:13,333 --> 01:45:15,692
Speaker 4: who likes to muck around in certain times of the day,

2296
01:45:15,812 --> 01:45:18,692
Speaker 4: really keen to hear from. Yeah, it is nineteen.

2297
01:45:18,293 --> 01:45:23,173
Speaker 1: To four, Matt Heath, Taylor Adams taking your calls on Oh,

2298
01:45:23,213 --> 01:45:25,492
Speaker 1: eight hundred and eighty ten eighty, it's Matt Heath and

2299
01:45:25,572 --> 01:45:27,812
Speaker 1: Taylor Adams afternoons news talks.

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01:45:27,812 --> 01:45:29,492
Speaker 3: They'd be seventeen to four.

2301
01:45:29,692 --> 01:45:34,453
Speaker 4: So we're talking about a viral video by an Australian comedian.

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01:45:34,572 --> 01:45:36,973
Speaker 4: So he calls himself fair way peppy, and in it

2303
01:45:37,053 --> 01:45:39,053
Speaker 4: he describes the five hours of the workday where he

2304
01:45:39,133 --> 01:45:41,333
Speaker 4: gets a sweet bugger all. Here's a bit of it.

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01:45:41,293 --> 01:45:44,372
Speaker 25: Now, ranking the top five hours of the day where

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01:45:44,412 --> 01:45:47,532
Speaker 25: I'm not doing at work. Coming in at number five,

2307
01:45:47,692 --> 01:45:50,852
Speaker 25: we have the hour before lunch. By this stage, I've

2308
01:45:50,893 --> 01:45:53,052
Speaker 25: been at work for a couple of hours. I'm hungry.

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01:45:53,093 --> 01:45:55,532
Speaker 25: All I'm thinking about is breaking for lunch. I want

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01:45:55,572 --> 01:45:57,492
Speaker 25: to get the hell out of here. I'm not doing

2311
01:45:57,772 --> 01:46:00,293
Speaker 25: the hour before lunch. Coming in at number four, we

2312
01:46:00,412 --> 01:46:04,173
Speaker 25: have the hour directly after a meeting. Paying attention during

2313
01:46:04,173 --> 01:46:08,132
Speaker 25: the meeting has absolutely cooked me. My attention span is done.

2314
01:46:08,412 --> 01:46:10,612
Speaker 25: I need a break and for that reason, I'm not

2315
01:46:10,692 --> 01:46:12,973
Speaker 25: doing shit for an hour after a meeting. Coming in

2316
01:46:12,973 --> 01:46:16,492
Speaker 25: at number three, we have the hour after lunch. Lunch

2317
01:46:16,532 --> 01:46:19,293
Speaker 25: time's over and I'm depressed. All I can think about

2318
01:46:19,333 --> 01:46:20,892
Speaker 25: now is how badly I want to have a nap.

2319
01:46:21,053 --> 01:46:23,372
Speaker 25: My mind now wonders to what I'm doing after work.

2320
01:46:23,652 --> 01:46:25,732
Speaker 25: I don't want to be here. I'm not doing shit

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01:46:25,893 --> 01:46:28,253
Speaker 25: during the hour after lunch. Coming in at number two,

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01:46:28,372 --> 01:46:31,133
Speaker 25: we have the first hour of the day. Look, if

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01:46:31,133 --> 01:46:32,892
Speaker 25: I'm completely honest, I'm probably not going to be here

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01:46:32,893 --> 01:46:34,732
Speaker 25: for the first fifteen minutes of the day anyway. Then

2325
01:46:34,732 --> 01:46:37,132
Speaker 25: I'm going to come in quick, socialize with the colleagues,

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01:46:37,253 --> 01:46:38,532
Speaker 25: and then I'm immediately looking to.

2327
01:46:38,492 --> 01:46:39,172
Speaker 2: Get a coffee.

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01:46:39,253 --> 01:46:40,852
Speaker 25: I might turn my computer on and see if I

2329
01:46:40,853 --> 01:46:43,213
Speaker 25: got ne urge and emails, but other than that, I'm

2330
01:46:43,253 --> 01:46:45,213
Speaker 25: not doing shit for the first hour of the day.

2331
01:46:45,412 --> 01:46:48,293
Speaker 25: And coming in at number one we have the last

2332
01:46:48,293 --> 01:46:51,013
Speaker 25: hour of the day. Goes without saying. I busted my

2333
01:46:51,093 --> 01:46:55,093
Speaker 25: ass all day meetings, lunch breaks, coffees. Now it's time

2334
01:46:55,093 --> 01:46:57,492
Speaker 25: for me to start wrapping things up and look for

2335
01:46:57,492 --> 01:47:00,013
Speaker 25: the exit door. Chances are again I won't be here

2336
01:47:00,013 --> 01:47:02,093
Speaker 25: for the last fifteen of these minutes. So with that

2337
01:47:02,173 --> 01:47:05,532
Speaker 25: in mind, I'm not doing shit for the last hour

2338
01:47:05,532 --> 01:47:05,932
Speaker 25: of the day.

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01:47:06,333 --> 01:47:07,572
Speaker 4: Absolutely nails it.

2340
01:47:08,812 --> 01:47:11,412
Speaker 2: I was in the toilet so long at work. The

2341
01:47:11,452 --> 01:47:14,253
Speaker 2: sticks has said that I fell asleep first day too.

2342
01:47:14,412 --> 01:47:17,492
Speaker 2: Also at a warehouse they locked up. I woke up

2343
01:47:17,532 --> 01:47:21,213
Speaker 2: and set off the alarms trying to leave. So embarrassing

2344
01:47:21,253 --> 01:47:23,732
Speaker 2: for a first day. Was there for five years though,

2345
01:47:24,293 --> 01:47:25,333
Speaker 2: ended up being a manager.

2346
01:47:25,933 --> 01:47:27,652
Speaker 3: Fantastic, what happy story.

2347
01:47:27,973 --> 01:47:30,692
Speaker 4: So there you go. So you so you fall asleep

2348
01:47:30,732 --> 01:47:33,972
Speaker 4: and toilets on your first day? Nobody, nobody knows.

2349
01:47:34,093 --> 01:47:36,293
Speaker 2: Do you set off the large? I reckon? They snuck out?

2350
01:47:37,572 --> 01:47:39,532
Speaker 2: Do you reckon? They knew that you were on there

2351
01:47:39,572 --> 01:47:42,452
Speaker 2: and then they snuck out and locked things up and

2352
01:47:42,492 --> 01:47:47,172
Speaker 2: left the alarm on for alarm on for a joke. Yeah, well, yeah,

2353
01:47:47,213 --> 01:47:49,053
Speaker 2: on your first day. You got to You've got to

2354
01:47:49,053 --> 01:47:50,293
Speaker 2: be a bitter than that on your first day.

2355
01:47:50,412 --> 01:47:53,132
Speaker 4: Yeah exactly. Then you became a manager.

2356
01:47:53,133 --> 01:47:55,853
Speaker 2: Well done, Philip, Welcome to the show.

2357
01:47:57,612 --> 01:48:03,532
Speaker 8: This is a different act that too with myst dips up.

2358
01:48:03,652 --> 01:48:09,253
Speaker 8: So he's currently eighteen. Right throughout his schooling, he just

2359
01:48:09,293 --> 01:48:12,012
Speaker 8: wanted to be an engineer. He's just he's always talked

2360
01:48:12,053 --> 01:48:15,173
Speaker 8: about being an engineer, wanted to be an engineer. He

2361
01:48:15,492 --> 01:48:17,973
Speaker 8: had a countdown on his phone, a countdown out on

2362
01:48:18,053 --> 01:48:21,452
Speaker 8: the phone to when he turned sixteenth, so as he

2363
01:48:21,532 --> 01:48:26,412
Speaker 8: thought he could leave school. So anyway he did. He well,

2364
01:48:26,492 --> 01:48:28,253
Speaker 8: actually we did let him meet school because if he

2365
01:48:28,253 --> 01:48:30,572
Speaker 8: didn't leave school, he would have been expelled anyway, because

2366
01:48:30,572 --> 01:48:34,972
Speaker 8: he just didn't want to be there anyway. I see,

2367
01:48:35,372 --> 01:48:37,732
Speaker 8: you're more than welcome to leave school, but you're not

2368
01:48:37,732 --> 01:48:39,412
Speaker 8: going to sit at home and watch by a TV.

2369
01:48:39,492 --> 01:48:43,532
Speaker 8: And you're going to go out to work and you're

2370
01:48:43,572 --> 01:48:45,013
Speaker 8: going you know, you're going to have to in your

2371
01:48:45,173 --> 01:48:46,212
Speaker 8: own your life.

2372
01:48:46,372 --> 01:48:46,492
Speaker 26: Now.

2373
01:48:46,612 --> 01:48:51,093
Speaker 8: Six months before he left school, we got him a

2374
01:48:51,253 --> 01:48:55,213
Speaker 8: job just sweeping flaws at the engineers just down the

2375
01:48:55,253 --> 01:48:59,452
Speaker 8: road from our place. He ended up learning to do

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Speaker 8: a bit of welding and that sort of thing, and

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Speaker 8: the boss sort of took him a bit under under

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01:49:03,492 --> 01:49:06,852
Speaker 8: his armor, but he actually gave him a job. When

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01:49:06,853 --> 01:49:09,972
Speaker 8: he left school. I gave him a talking to him, said, right,

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01:49:10,933 --> 01:49:12,812
Speaker 8: you're going to be the first at work. You're going

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01:49:12,893 --> 01:49:16,333
Speaker 8: to be the last lead. Don't get involved in any

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01:49:16,372 --> 01:49:18,532
Speaker 8: of the ship that the other guy's get involved in.

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01:49:18,652 --> 01:49:21,452
Speaker 8: You just get stick to yourself and you make sure

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01:49:21,492 --> 01:49:24,772
Speaker 8: you do the job. Now that guy is now, he

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01:49:24,933 --> 01:49:27,812
Speaker 8: is now managing one of the sheds and he has

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Speaker 8: actually got four guys underneath him. He gets he gets

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Speaker 8: pay your rises, but well he's had three pay rises

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Speaker 8: in the last eight months in which the boss tells

2389
01:49:38,213 --> 01:49:40,173
Speaker 8: him not to tell anybody he'sa's got a pay rise

2390
01:49:40,452 --> 01:49:42,053
Speaker 8: taken out for assumed and all the rest of it.

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01:49:42,333 --> 01:49:45,772
Speaker 8: So millennials quite often get a pretty hard wrap. But

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01:49:46,452 --> 01:49:49,013
Speaker 8: this guy has proved that you know you can you

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01:49:49,133 --> 01:49:53,093
Speaker 8: can actually a dance just by getting stuck in and working. Heally,

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01:49:53,253 --> 01:49:55,532
Speaker 8: he's up at six o'clock every morning. He leaves for

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01:49:55,652 --> 01:49:58,333
Speaker 8: work at half past six and three. He takes them

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01:49:58,372 --> 01:50:00,932
Speaker 8: three minutes to get there and it doesn't start till

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Speaker 8: seven and he's usually home at six o'clock at night,

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01:50:03,812 --> 01:50:06,813
Speaker 8: but when they might walking about us five, So he's

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Speaker 8: doing the hea.

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Speaker 2: See that's the flip side of not doing anything at work?

2401
01:50:13,973 --> 01:50:17,213
Speaker 2: Is you unluckily you get promoted, except in this case

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01:50:17,253 --> 01:50:20,972
Speaker 2: here from in the in the Air Force, we had

2403
01:50:20,973 --> 01:50:22,852
Speaker 2: a saying that you were promoted to the level of

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01:50:22,893 --> 01:50:26,173
Speaker 2: your incompetence. The more incompetent, the faster you rose through

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01:50:26,173 --> 01:50:29,052
Speaker 2: the ranks. One mechanic you sledgehamers to fix things, broke

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01:50:29,133 --> 01:50:31,932
Speaker 2: everything he touched, so was promoted to sergeant in charge

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01:50:32,093 --> 01:50:36,293
Speaker 2: of the unit to get him off the tools, stuffed everything.

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01:50:36,333 --> 01:50:40,212
Speaker 2: As a manager too. It's the Peter principle, isn't it.

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01:50:40,213 --> 01:50:43,732
Speaker 2: It's okay, I've got it here. It states that in

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01:50:43,772 --> 01:50:47,213
Speaker 2: a hierarchy, every employee is promoted to their level of incompetence,

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01:50:47,253 --> 01:50:50,013
Speaker 2: meaning people are promoted based on their success in their

2412
01:50:50,053 --> 01:50:53,253
Speaker 2: current role until they reach a position they cannot perform effectively.

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01:50:53,452 --> 01:50:56,052
Speaker 2: At this point they are no longer considered for promotion,

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01:50:56,532 --> 01:51:00,293
Speaker 2: and Peter's plateau is reached slightly different there. This person's

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01:51:00,333 --> 01:51:02,253
Speaker 2: being promoted to get them off the tools.

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01:51:02,372 --> 01:51:04,412
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, to keep them away from their sledghammer, to

2417
01:51:04,412 --> 01:51:07,652
Speaker 4: stop breaking things. Oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty

2418
01:51:07,812 --> 01:51:10,692
Speaker 4: is the numb bit of cool. Just thinking back to

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01:51:10,732 --> 01:51:13,372
Speaker 4: that video. I mean the first hour for me, absolutely

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01:51:13,372 --> 01:51:15,372
Speaker 4: that sky of time that is that is peak sky

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01:51:15,412 --> 01:51:17,652
Speaker 4: of time when I come in here. In any job

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01:51:17,692 --> 01:51:19,933
Speaker 4: I've had, actually, the first hour is key. That you

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01:51:19,973 --> 01:51:21,732
Speaker 4: come in, you have a few yards with people, You

2424
01:51:21,772 --> 01:51:24,012
Speaker 4: walk around the office, go and check out the toilet,

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01:51:24,253 --> 01:51:26,892
Speaker 4: make yourself a coffee, drink some of that, and make

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01:51:26,933 --> 01:51:29,973
Speaker 4: another coffee. But that's ah, yep, and hours past a

2427
01:51:30,013 --> 01:51:31,932
Speaker 4: bit to get into it. But that's key. I mean

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01:51:31,933 --> 01:51:33,492
Speaker 4: nobody asked questions in the first hour.

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01:51:33,973 --> 01:51:37,572
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm never here to see that. So interesting to

2430
01:51:37,572 --> 01:51:40,412
Speaker 2: hear what you're up to. George used to work at

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01:51:40,452 --> 01:51:40,932
Speaker 2: I HUG.

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01:51:42,492 --> 01:51:45,452
Speaker 22: Well, I didn't work at IHAG. I worked for I

2433
01:51:45,612 --> 01:51:49,133
Speaker 22: hug installing your satellite dishes and making the services go

2434
01:51:49,173 --> 01:51:52,013
Speaker 22: on everybody's computers so they can have their Internet in

2435
01:51:52,093 --> 01:51:53,492
Speaker 22: strange places of the country.

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01:51:53,692 --> 01:51:55,173
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, right, it's really good.

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01:51:55,652 --> 01:51:58,932
Speaker 22: The only issue I had was I would order something

2438
01:51:59,093 --> 01:52:01,572
Speaker 22: and sometimes I get three or four times the amount

2439
01:52:01,652 --> 01:52:04,852
Speaker 22: I wanted, and other times there were short falls. I

2440
01:52:04,853 --> 01:52:09,253
Speaker 22: can understand that now because of a certain person on

2441
01:52:09,293 --> 01:52:09,692
Speaker 22: the drop.

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01:52:09,772 --> 01:52:13,213
Speaker 4: It will makes sense now, George will makes sense now.

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01:52:13,492 --> 01:52:15,892
Speaker 22: But the other thing is I met a guy who

2444
01:52:15,933 --> 01:52:20,173
Speaker 22: worked who worked at Huntley Power Station while they're building it, yep,

2445
01:52:20,812 --> 01:52:24,253
Speaker 22: and these were and he observed the chimney builders. So

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01:52:24,293 --> 01:52:26,612
Speaker 22: they turn up at eight o'clock in the morning and

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01:52:26,652 --> 01:52:28,692
Speaker 22: then spend their time getting ready and then spend their

2448
01:52:28,692 --> 01:52:31,333
Speaker 22: time climbing the chimney, and the taller it got, the

2449
01:52:31,372 --> 01:52:35,013
Speaker 22: longer it took. Okay, but the bosses decided they had

2450
01:52:35,053 --> 01:52:37,452
Speaker 22: to be in the smoker room at morning tea, so

2451
01:52:37,492 --> 01:52:39,173
Speaker 22: then not have to climb all the way down again,

2452
01:52:39,692 --> 01:52:41,973
Speaker 22: and after morning he climb all the way up, and

2453
01:52:41,973 --> 01:52:43,572
Speaker 22: the same for lunch, so then they have to climb

2454
01:52:43,572 --> 01:52:45,892
Speaker 22: all the way back down again, and after lunch climb

2455
01:52:45,893 --> 01:52:47,933
Speaker 22: all the way back up. The taller it got, the

2456
01:52:47,973 --> 01:52:50,412
Speaker 22: longer it got until it got the afternoon tea, same

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01:52:50,492 --> 01:52:52,372
Speaker 22: track and then come down getting ready to go home.

2458
01:52:52,973 --> 01:52:57,013
Speaker 22: And they said these guys were really fit. It just

2459
01:52:57,053 --> 01:53:00,372
Speaker 22: got really interesting, is watching the progress the chimneys dat

2460
01:53:00,532 --> 01:53:03,532
Speaker 22: longer and longer to get further and further if they

2461
01:53:03,572 --> 01:53:05,652
Speaker 22: had to climb more and more guys.

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01:53:06,333 --> 01:53:09,612
Speaker 2: That's that's on the icon on a hunting power station,

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01:53:09,732 --> 01:53:11,892
Speaker 2: is it? Those two icronic chimneys that looked like the

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01:53:11,893 --> 01:53:14,452
Speaker 2: cover brick by bracks.

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01:53:16,492 --> 01:53:17,013
Speaker 24: The other thing?

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01:53:17,093 --> 01:53:19,652
Speaker 22: I worked in a large communication company in is Yellin.

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01:53:19,692 --> 01:53:23,052
Speaker 22: I won't say which one, but anyway, we had primas

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01:53:23,053 --> 01:53:26,053
Speaker 22: on my guys that worked with us in our set,

2469
01:53:26,053 --> 01:53:28,333
Speaker 22: in our branch, and there was one guy in particular

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01:53:28,812 --> 01:53:32,173
Speaker 22: who took the shire of the of the boss, as

2471
01:53:32,173 --> 01:53:34,532
Speaker 22: in he was the pet boy, so he'd get the

2472
01:53:34,572 --> 01:53:38,932
Speaker 22: new projects, but he never finished the paperwork. He left

2473
01:53:38,973 --> 01:53:43,053
Speaker 22: all the crap to everybody else, and everybody knew how

2474
01:53:43,093 --> 01:53:45,253
Speaker 22: this worked, but the boss never seemed to see it.

2475
01:53:45,652 --> 01:53:47,692
Speaker 22: Somebody else would have to pick up all the drawings

2476
01:53:47,692 --> 01:53:50,293
Speaker 22: and all the details and the records and everything else.

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01:53:50,532 --> 01:53:53,453
Speaker 4: So he was one of the delegators, the lazy delegators.

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01:53:53,492 --> 01:53:56,892
Speaker 22: George, Well, no, he wasn't a delegator. The boss just

2479
01:53:56,973 --> 01:53:59,412
Speaker 22: gave him the next project, and so he just took

2480
01:53:59,452 --> 01:54:02,333
Speaker 22: that on and dumped what he was doing. And it's

2481
01:54:02,412 --> 01:54:04,612
Speaker 22: just I don't know what you call that, but I

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01:54:04,732 --> 01:54:06,012
Speaker 22: just called that slack as well.

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01:54:06,093 --> 01:54:11,612
Speaker 2: Ye, yeah, yeah, you got to take yeah, that is.

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01:54:12,093 --> 01:54:16,133
Speaker 22: You explained my issues and worked really well.

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01:54:16,293 --> 01:54:20,652
Speaker 2: Yeah, well yeah, apologies for that and retrospect, but I.

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01:54:20,612 --> 01:54:22,852
Speaker 4: Mean take it up with with Matt's employees. You know,

2487
01:54:22,933 --> 01:54:24,492
Speaker 4: he was a manager. He told them what to do

2488
01:54:24,532 --> 01:54:27,053
Speaker 4: while he had a nap, so they didn't follow his instructions.

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01:54:27,333 --> 01:54:29,612
Speaker 22: Well, I've still I've still got some of my dishes.

2490
01:54:29,853 --> 01:54:31,732
Speaker 22: Have you touring around? Do I use it as large

2491
01:54:31,772 --> 01:54:32,853
Speaker 22: walks from the barbecue?

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01:54:32,933 --> 01:54:35,613
Speaker 2: Okay, well see if there's my signatures on the paperwork

2493
01:54:35,653 --> 01:54:35,812
Speaker 2: on this.

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01:54:38,413 --> 01:54:40,493
Speaker 4: Georgia are a good man, Thank you very much. Right,

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01:54:40,493 --> 01:54:43,012
Speaker 4: we've got to play some messages. It is eight minutes

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01:54:43,053 --> 01:54:43,573
Speaker 4: to four.

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Speaker 1: The big stories, the big issues, the big trends, and

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01:54:48,293 --> 01:54:52,693
Speaker 1: everything in between. Matt Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoons News Talks.

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Speaker 6: B.

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Speaker 4: News Talks. There be it is five to four.

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01:54:57,853 --> 01:55:00,253
Speaker 2: Tyler just got ripped out. Boss came in and ripped

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01:55:00,293 --> 01:55:01,933
Speaker 2: him out about admitting that how little work he does

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01:55:02,013 --> 01:55:03,053
Speaker 2: in his first hour that he's here.

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01:55:03,133 --> 01:55:05,092
Speaker 4: Yeah, he was asking about that first hour and he says,

2505
01:55:05,093 --> 01:55:06,213
Speaker 4: going to cut me off from the coffee.

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01:55:06,253 --> 01:55:07,533
Speaker 3: So I deserve that.

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01:55:07,613 --> 01:55:08,213
Speaker 4: I deserve that.

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01:55:09,013 --> 01:55:12,253
Speaker 2: But it's been a great show talking about people to

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01:55:12,293 --> 01:55:14,293
Speaker 2: slacking off at work. Thank you so much for sharing

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01:55:14,373 --> 01:55:17,613
Speaker 2: your stories, and thanks so much for everyone who's listened

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01:55:17,653 --> 01:55:21,092
Speaker 2: to the show today. Thank you for your your calls

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01:55:21,133 --> 01:55:23,772
Speaker 2: and your text. Has been a really, really fun show

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Speaker 2: the Formatt and Tyler Afternoons podcast about in an hour

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01:55:26,493 --> 01:55:30,173
Speaker 2: or so if you missed our great chats on the

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Speaker 2: trend of people not wanting to have babies, also on

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01:55:35,812 --> 01:55:37,852
Speaker 2: where the New Zealanders the safest country in the world.

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01:55:38,213 --> 01:55:40,213
Speaker 2: But right now, Tyler, damn it, I've given away. Why

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01:55:40,253 --> 01:55:41,133
Speaker 2: am I playing this song?

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01:55:42,173 --> 01:55:43,293
Speaker 3: Is this called the Safety Dunes?

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01:55:43,533 --> 01:55:47,613
Speaker 4: It is christ Obviously we're pretty proud that we're the

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01:55:47,653 --> 01:55:52,413
Speaker 4: third safest country in the World, Iceland and Ireland. Hats

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01:55:52,413 --> 01:55:53,173
Speaker 4: off to them as well.

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01:55:53,533 --> 01:55:56,053
Speaker 2: You say hats off this spans men without hats, good

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01:55:56,093 --> 01:56:00,413
Speaker 2: good names. Yeah, fantastic je very catchy song. The powerful

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01:56:00,453 --> 01:56:03,413
Speaker 2: head of Droop of c Ellen is up next. Have

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01:56:03,493 --> 01:56:09,373
Speaker 2: a great rest of your AVO until tomorrow at Wow

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01:56:09,493 --> 01:56:10,892
Speaker 2: for one, give them a task to keep me for

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Speaker 2: us all right.

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