1 00:00:06,667 --> 00:00:10,387 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Weekend Sport podcast with Jason Vine 2 00:00:10,707 --> 00:00:12,107 Speaker 1: from Newstalk zb. 3 00:00:12,707 --> 00:00:15,027 Speaker 2: Time every Sunday or around about this time every Sunday 4 00:00:15,067 --> 00:00:17,627 Speaker 2: we get the pleasure of the company of James Mconie. James, 5 00:00:17,667 --> 00:00:19,627 Speaker 2: I had a dream last night that Mitchell Santoner got 6 00:00:19,667 --> 00:00:22,107 Speaker 2: thirteen wickets and then you turned up on the radio 7 00:00:22,147 --> 00:00:22,827 Speaker 2: to talk about it. 8 00:00:23,587 --> 00:00:26,787 Speaker 3: I know you know it's all come true, Pony, your 9 00:00:26,827 --> 00:00:29,347 Speaker 3: biggest dreams have come true. I'm here for you. 10 00:00:29,627 --> 00:00:32,187 Speaker 2: What about that, well. 11 00:00:32,027 --> 00:00:34,507 Speaker 3: I know that's the whole thing. It's not just a dream. 12 00:00:34,507 --> 00:00:37,587 Speaker 3: It should be a movie because talk about a ragtag 13 00:00:37,627 --> 00:00:41,347 Speaker 3: team of misfits, you know, a new captain, probably not 14 00:00:41,467 --> 00:00:43,947 Speaker 3: that many superstars, I mean, ratching might end up being 15 00:00:43,987 --> 00:00:46,667 Speaker 3: an all time great. Tim Saudi, you know, getting a 16 00:00:46,707 --> 00:00:48,427 Speaker 3: bit long in the tooth and that's not even a 17 00:00:48,467 --> 00:00:51,507 Speaker 3: tooth teeth joke for him, but just the team that 18 00:00:51,747 --> 00:00:55,547 Speaker 3: just bonded together and with Mitchell Satner I think they 19 00:00:55,547 --> 00:00:58,427 Speaker 3: call it in the flow state or feeling himself in 20 00:00:58,467 --> 00:01:02,347 Speaker 3: the modern parlance. Pony, Yeah, there's an all time performance. 21 00:01:02,707 --> 00:01:05,427 Speaker 3: He's had his Doug Bracewl and Hobart test right there. 22 00:01:05,707 --> 00:01:08,107 Speaker 2: Don't you think It's great though that he is so 23 00:01:08,507 --> 00:01:12,227 Speaker 2: understated in his celebrations. I mentioned before I saw a 24 00:01:12,267 --> 00:01:14,467 Speaker 2: great one on social that when he got Viverra Coli out, 25 00:01:14,627 --> 00:01:16,627 Speaker 2: he celebrated like a guy. Just remember where his kha 26 00:01:16,667 --> 00:01:17,187 Speaker 2: keys were. 27 00:01:18,187 --> 00:01:20,427 Speaker 3: Yeah, well he looks like the villain out of Despicable Me. 28 00:01:20,627 --> 00:01:24,267 Speaker 3: Is it grew or grew anyway? He's a little bit hunchbacked. 29 00:01:24,267 --> 00:01:28,147 Speaker 3: He sort of he wanders around and just doesn't seem 30 00:01:28,147 --> 00:01:30,147 Speaker 3: to raise a sweats. But I think when he got 31 00:01:30,147 --> 00:01:32,667 Speaker 3: that run out, you could just see how well he 32 00:01:32,827 --> 00:01:36,947 Speaker 3: was playing the game, and the loop and dip that 33 00:01:37,027 --> 00:01:39,267 Speaker 3: he provided was perfect for that pitch, and I think 34 00:01:39,267 --> 00:01:43,027 Speaker 3: that was the perfect setting for Santana. Sometimes you probably 35 00:01:43,027 --> 00:01:45,227 Speaker 3: think when he's picked in those home Tests that we 36 00:01:45,227 --> 00:01:48,507 Speaker 3: should have a spinner that turns the ball more. But honestly, 37 00:01:48,627 --> 00:01:52,107 Speaker 3: over there he is perfect for those conditions. Great fielder 38 00:01:53,347 --> 00:01:56,427 Speaker 3: and with that variation. But this is the whole thing. 39 00:01:56,467 --> 00:01:59,627 Speaker 3: He's third on the all time list now paddles the 40 00:01:59,627 --> 00:02:02,147 Speaker 3: great Sir Richard Hadley is number one with that those 41 00:02:02,187 --> 00:02:06,227 Speaker 3: fifteen wickets in Brisbane. Of course, AJS. Battel is number 42 00:02:06,227 --> 00:02:08,627 Speaker 3: two two with fourteen wickets and ten in one innings. 43 00:02:08,667 --> 00:02:10,907 Speaker 3: Of course there was a Test that black Caps lost, 44 00:02:11,347 --> 00:02:16,107 Speaker 3: but to get those standing wickets in a historic series 45 00:02:16,147 --> 00:02:19,947 Speaker 3: win and India, it's right up there with one of 46 00:02:19,987 --> 00:02:23,547 Speaker 3: the greatest individual performances in any code for New Zealand. 47 00:02:23,627 --> 00:02:26,707 Speaker 2: Yeah, totally agree, totally agree. It says, Yeah, it's a 48 00:02:26,707 --> 00:02:29,267 Speaker 2: good analogy with Doug Bracewell and Hobart because he'll always 49 00:02:29,347 --> 00:02:31,587 Speaker 2: always be remembered for that. Hopefully there's more to come 50 00:02:31,587 --> 00:02:34,707 Speaker 2: from Mitchell Center, but yeah, he'll always have He'll always 51 00:02:34,747 --> 00:02:35,507 Speaker 2: have poone. 52 00:02:36,387 --> 00:02:38,507 Speaker 3: He will always have poone. And you know what, like 53 00:02:39,067 --> 00:02:42,987 Speaker 3: the way that I think the black Caps really sort 54 00:02:42,987 --> 00:02:47,187 Speaker 3: of fit together well as a team. It just feels 55 00:02:47,227 --> 00:02:50,347 Speaker 3: like a team, you know, doesn't seem to be many egos. 56 00:02:50,387 --> 00:02:53,907 Speaker 3: It's just a really nice team to watch. And for 57 00:02:54,427 --> 00:02:56,427 Speaker 3: Tom Latham, he's going to take a bow as well. 58 00:02:56,507 --> 00:02:59,027 Speaker 3: That's an incredible series as captain. 59 00:02:59,147 --> 00:03:02,867 Speaker 2: Absolutely right, Okay, let's go to the All Blacks. We're up. 60 00:03:02,907 --> 00:03:04,707 Speaker 2: Was sort of there's quite a bit going on on 61 00:03:05,187 --> 00:03:07,667 Speaker 2: screen on screen yesterday, so I was sort of flipping 62 00:03:07,667 --> 00:03:10,467 Speaker 2: between All Blacks, Black Caps and a little bit of 63 00:03:10,467 --> 00:03:12,627 Speaker 2: Wellington Phoenix and other a league and that sort of 64 00:03:12,667 --> 00:03:14,947 Speaker 2: thing as well. Did you. Did you take much away 65 00:03:14,947 --> 00:03:18,907 Speaker 2: from the the rather lopsided scoreline against. 66 00:03:18,707 --> 00:03:22,467 Speaker 3: Japan, Well, Piney, we haven't pretty prepared this. We just 67 00:03:22,907 --> 00:03:24,907 Speaker 3: talked to each other on Sunday. I mean, I take 68 00:03:24,987 --> 00:03:26,587 Speaker 3: some notes. But one thing I'd like you to do 69 00:03:26,667 --> 00:03:28,707 Speaker 3: is think of who you think the most impressive All 70 00:03:28,707 --> 00:03:32,947 Speaker 3: Black the season has been first name, last name, and 71 00:03:32,987 --> 00:03:35,667 Speaker 3: on the count of three, we'll both say his name. Okay, okay, 72 00:03:35,827 --> 00:03:42,147 Speaker 3: yep one, two three, Wallace to tt correct, Yeah, it 73 00:03:42,187 --> 00:03:48,267 Speaker 3: is it is season and the way he's the way 74 00:03:48,307 --> 00:03:51,787 Speaker 3: he's played against every opposition. And also Stephen Donald the 75 00:03:51,867 --> 00:03:56,227 Speaker 3: Beaver providing some awesome analysis on sky Sport last night, 76 00:03:56,347 --> 00:03:59,787 Speaker 3: saying it's his late footwork that no teams can counter 77 00:03:59,947 --> 00:04:02,147 Speaker 3: him because the Japanese like to tackle quite low and 78 00:04:02,227 --> 00:04:05,227 Speaker 3: Lunjon low. He's just making mincemeat of them when he 79 00:04:05,267 --> 00:04:08,107 Speaker 3: wants to. And so it was quite an interesting insight 80 00:04:08,147 --> 00:04:11,947 Speaker 3: into his special set of skills like Liam Neiss and 81 00:04:12,027 --> 00:04:15,427 Speaker 3: Taken and where he just and maybe like Liam mess 82 00:04:15,467 --> 00:04:19,067 Speaker 3: him as well from the Chiefs. He's got all those skills, 83 00:04:18,907 --> 00:04:22,347 Speaker 3: the vistality. I thought he was exceptional and then it's 84 00:04:22,347 --> 00:04:25,627 Speaker 3: still so I'd like to talk about Pal regard and 85 00:04:25,667 --> 00:04:29,467 Speaker 3: the type five Who would you like to talk about piny. 86 00:04:30,347 --> 00:04:33,547 Speaker 2: No, no, both of those. But also before we get that, 87 00:04:33,587 --> 00:04:34,987 Speaker 2: can I go back to you with one of the 88 00:04:35,027 --> 00:04:37,427 Speaker 2: games we just played there or the game we just 89 00:04:37,427 --> 00:04:39,507 Speaker 2: played when we say the same thing at the same time. 90 00:04:39,587 --> 00:04:41,867 Speaker 2: So on my counter of three, can you say the 91 00:04:41,867 --> 00:04:45,427 Speaker 2: surnames of who you think will play six, seven and 92 00:04:45,507 --> 00:04:48,627 Speaker 2: eight against England next week? Are you ready? We've got 93 00:04:48,667 --> 00:04:49,027 Speaker 2: in your head? 94 00:04:50,107 --> 00:04:53,227 Speaker 3: Wait, who's are you? Okay? I can six seven eight 95 00:04:53,307 --> 00:04:53,787 Speaker 3: in that order? 96 00:04:53,867 --> 00:04:56,387 Speaker 2: Yees, six seven eight and that order surnames only, Okay, 97 00:04:56,507 --> 00:04:58,587 Speaker 2: six seven eight on the on the count of three, 98 00:04:59,107 --> 00:05:04,987 Speaker 2: one two three, So t T Caine Savia there you go, okay, 99 00:05:05,067 --> 00:05:07,427 Speaker 2: So we match up on that as well. This game 100 00:05:07,467 --> 00:05:08,827 Speaker 2: I think is gonna ge a bit old. Now can 101 00:05:08,827 --> 00:05:09,987 Speaker 2: we talk about cam roy Gard? 102 00:05:11,387 --> 00:05:14,267 Speaker 3: Cam roy Guard just announcing that he's back on the 103 00:05:14,267 --> 00:05:16,707 Speaker 3: scene also with the County Steelers, and you go, okay, 104 00:05:17,067 --> 00:05:18,787 Speaker 3: that's just the NPC. But I'll tell you what, there's 105 00:05:18,787 --> 00:05:21,867 Speaker 3: still tough defenses to crack. But he looks into such 106 00:05:21,867 --> 00:05:24,627 Speaker 3: imperious form even after he bombed that try that he 107 00:05:24,667 --> 00:05:27,747 Speaker 3: talks about previously. I just think he's gone away, not 108 00:05:27,827 --> 00:05:30,347 Speaker 3: only worked at his game, he's worked at his interview game. 109 00:05:30,427 --> 00:05:34,787 Speaker 3: How good was he that interview as well, just earlier 110 00:05:34,827 --> 00:05:37,947 Speaker 3: in the hour. I mean, come on, that's a new Boygard. 111 00:05:38,147 --> 00:05:41,107 Speaker 2: It not is, because I remember I remember him up 112 00:05:41,107 --> 00:05:43,187 Speaker 2: for media when he first made the Hurricanes, and you're 113 00:05:43,187 --> 00:05:45,867 Speaker 2: so right, he was kind of one of the I mean, 114 00:05:45,867 --> 00:05:49,147 Speaker 2: he wasn't, you know, completely reticent with his answers, but 115 00:05:49,147 --> 00:05:52,427 Speaker 2: they certainly weren't forty five seconds full of good analysis 116 00:05:52,467 --> 00:05:55,067 Speaker 2: and common sense like the ones we just heard. 117 00:05:55,827 --> 00:06:00,067 Speaker 3: Yeah, so he's come back, you know, stronger, faster, more articulate. 118 00:06:00,747 --> 00:06:02,827 Speaker 3: He looks like he's on the verge of something special. 119 00:06:02,947 --> 00:06:06,307 Speaker 3: So even though Cortez and Artema has got the inside running, 120 00:06:06,587 --> 00:06:08,947 Speaker 3: I just wonder whether Royguard is going to stamp his 121 00:06:09,027 --> 00:06:11,147 Speaker 3: mark on this tour. And look, I'm happy for the 122 00:06:11,187 --> 00:06:14,467 Speaker 3: Northern Hemisphere to talk about Antoine de Pomp being the 123 00:06:14,467 --> 00:06:17,427 Speaker 3: greatest way we plan in the world. But maybe, just maybe, 124 00:06:17,787 --> 00:06:20,267 Speaker 3: in Paris in a few weeks time, he'll get dethroned 125 00:06:20,547 --> 00:06:24,787 Speaker 3: by Cam Royguard, whose surname does mean King's Guard, doesn't it. 126 00:06:24,827 --> 00:06:29,907 Speaker 3: And in Frint anyway, let's go, I didn't stick the 127 00:06:29,987 --> 00:06:34,507 Speaker 3: landing like Cam Royguard, but he is. He looks like 128 00:06:34,627 --> 00:06:38,187 Speaker 3: he's just ready to do something special, even after breaking 129 00:06:38,387 --> 00:06:40,707 Speaker 3: or equaling Bowden's BRONC record. 130 00:06:41,507 --> 00:06:44,227 Speaker 2: Now were you happy to hear Wellie who Ha sung 131 00:06:44,467 --> 00:06:48,067 Speaker 2: again after the MPC final yesterday after an extra twenty 132 00:06:48,107 --> 00:06:48,667 Speaker 2: minutes of it? 133 00:06:49,707 --> 00:06:52,067 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was. It was an epic final. I felt 134 00:06:52,067 --> 00:06:54,347 Speaker 3: for the Bay. I mean, I'm chefsmun all day. I 135 00:06:54,427 --> 00:06:57,387 Speaker 3: really wanted Bay to make They have plenty to make 136 00:06:57,627 --> 00:07:01,627 Speaker 3: history there. They both deserve a trophy, don't they. But 137 00:07:01,707 --> 00:07:05,867 Speaker 3: it can there can only be one. Wellington have been 138 00:07:05,987 --> 00:07:09,427 Speaker 3: frontrunning all season and they're just an exceptional provincial side. 139 00:07:09,867 --> 00:07:14,227 Speaker 3: I loved the fact that Jackson garden baship got to 140 00:07:14,307 --> 00:07:18,547 Speaker 3: un after the tragedy of his brother Connor passing away 141 00:07:18,587 --> 00:07:21,707 Speaker 3: this earlier this year. There was a lot of storylines. 142 00:07:21,787 --> 00:07:26,027 Speaker 3: I think, you know, Duperskify just trying to that all 143 00:07:26,027 --> 00:07:30,787 Speaker 3: way for recognition really and then Riley Higgins an emerging talent. 144 00:07:31,507 --> 00:07:35,987 Speaker 3: What will happen when Riley Higgins when he gets into 145 00:07:35,987 --> 00:07:38,107 Speaker 3: the All Blacks, which feels like it's going to happen 146 00:07:38,227 --> 00:07:41,467 Speaker 3: very soon. And then Jordy Barrett comes back from Ireland 147 00:07:41,467 --> 00:07:44,027 Speaker 3: and they're both at the Hurricanes trying to battle over 148 00:07:44,067 --> 00:07:46,947 Speaker 3: one Jersey. That's going to be interesting to watch. But yeah, 149 00:07:46,947 --> 00:07:49,147 Speaker 3: I was okay with it. Piney. You're welly all day, 150 00:07:49,147 --> 00:07:49,427 Speaker 3: aren't you? 151 00:07:49,467 --> 00:07:52,147 Speaker 2: Yeah? Absolutely, Look I've it's my ring tone, now, wellie 152 00:07:52,147 --> 00:07:56,387 Speaker 2: who has my ring tone? So you know not that 153 00:07:56,467 --> 00:07:58,427 Speaker 2: I not that. I get a heck of a lot 154 00:07:58,467 --> 00:08:01,187 Speaker 2: of phone calls, if I'm honest. But now it's sitting 155 00:08:01,187 --> 00:08:03,347 Speaker 2: there and just on, just on Riley Higgins, yeer, Riley Higgins, 156 00:08:03,387 --> 00:08:05,427 Speaker 2: Billy Proctor Hogg's that going to be in the absence 157 00:08:05,427 --> 00:08:09,307 Speaker 2: of Jordy Barrett for the Hurricanes next Super Rugby season. Hey, 158 00:08:09,347 --> 00:08:13,147 Speaker 2: just before you go, Chris Wood more goals for Nottingham 159 00:08:13,147 --> 00:08:17,547 Speaker 2: Forest yesterday. Only Earling Harland has more Premier League goals 160 00:08:17,667 --> 00:08:20,307 Speaker 2: so far this season than Chris Wood. It opens up 161 00:08:20,307 --> 00:08:22,867 Speaker 2: the inevitable conversation about where he sits among our all 162 00:08:22,947 --> 00:08:25,067 Speaker 2: time football and greats. I didn't necessarily want to have 163 00:08:25,107 --> 00:08:27,787 Speaker 2: that conversation today, but how good's he going? 164 00:08:29,507 --> 00:08:32,347 Speaker 3: He's unbelievable Chris Wood, and I think there's a lot 165 00:08:32,427 --> 00:08:35,787 Speaker 3: of big clubs ruining the fact that they never signed 166 00:08:35,787 --> 00:08:38,027 Speaker 3: them because he was on the market there for a 167 00:08:38,027 --> 00:08:41,987 Speaker 3: while for a pretty decent rate, and you know he's 168 00:08:42,027 --> 00:08:45,347 Speaker 3: been fighting around those battler clubs, you know, whether it's 169 00:08:45,387 --> 00:08:49,587 Speaker 3: Burnley and this time Forest, But then I think I 170 00:08:49,667 --> 00:08:52,947 Speaker 3: had times at Leicester as well, and there's another clubs 171 00:08:52,987 --> 00:08:56,347 Speaker 3: there for a while as well. But look the fact 172 00:08:56,347 --> 00:08:58,747 Speaker 3: that Nottingham Forest picked him up and he keeps on 173 00:08:58,827 --> 00:09:01,267 Speaker 3: banging in goals even though you and I Piney have 174 00:09:01,347 --> 00:09:03,987 Speaker 3: been part of the Chris Wood fan club for a while. 175 00:09:04,027 --> 00:09:07,067 Speaker 3: I feel like the British are finally starting to notice 176 00:09:07,227 --> 00:09:09,747 Speaker 3: and talking him up. And I think there's two factors 177 00:09:09,747 --> 00:09:12,627 Speaker 3: to that. One is Harry Kane's left and he's gone 178 00:09:12,667 --> 00:09:14,827 Speaker 3: to play for Bayern Munich, so they're looking to talk 179 00:09:14,867 --> 00:09:18,067 Speaker 3: about strikers and goalscorers and they've got no option except, 180 00:09:18,187 --> 00:09:21,667 Speaker 3: you know, to talk about Chris Wood and healing Harland together, 181 00:09:21,747 --> 00:09:24,787 Speaker 3: which I love so And also he is propping up 182 00:09:24,787 --> 00:09:27,547 Speaker 3: a club that everyone was picking for relegation and we 183 00:09:27,587 --> 00:09:29,467 Speaker 3: did talk about this a few weeks ago, Partey. He 184 00:09:29,587 --> 00:09:32,787 Speaker 3: is that good Chris Wood that he is changing everything 185 00:09:32,827 --> 00:09:34,947 Speaker 3: for them. The fact they let a couple of stars 186 00:09:34,987 --> 00:09:37,467 Speaker 3: go over the summer I think helps him. He's not 187 00:09:37,707 --> 00:09:39,427 Speaker 3: just had got his back to the goal or in 188 00:09:39,467 --> 00:09:42,387 Speaker 3: the six yard box who seems to share those duties 189 00:09:42,387 --> 00:09:45,427 Speaker 3: now And he's scored one goal from outside the area, 190 00:09:45,547 --> 00:09:48,467 Speaker 3: which blew everyone's mind. But this is the one thing, 191 00:09:48,547 --> 00:09:52,187 Speaker 3: is that all those big clubs that didn't want him, 192 00:09:53,067 --> 00:09:56,547 Speaker 3: Manchester United, whoever, they are behind Nottingham Forest right now. 193 00:09:56,587 --> 00:09:59,627 Speaker 3: And it's all because of Chris Wood and the sixth. 194 00:09:59,507 --> 00:10:00,827 Speaker 2: And that's the thing as well. But the team like 195 00:10:00,947 --> 00:10:02,787 Speaker 2: Nottingham Forest, who at the start of the season was 196 00:10:02,827 --> 00:10:06,947 Speaker 2: that I go, they might be a relegation contender. Start well, 197 00:10:06,987 --> 00:10:09,467 Speaker 2: they've got well, they've got sixteen points from their first 198 00:10:09,587 --> 00:10:12,307 Speaker 2: nine games. It's just such a good launching pad. It 199 00:10:12,307 --> 00:10:13,947 Speaker 2: means that you can go through a bit of a trough, 200 00:10:14,307 --> 00:10:16,627 Speaker 2: you know, in the sort of mid season around December, January, 201 00:10:16,627 --> 00:10:17,987 Speaker 2: whatever it is, and not get a couple of wins, 202 00:10:17,987 --> 00:10:20,347 Speaker 2: but you've got the base which is usually enough to 203 00:10:20,387 --> 00:10:22,947 Speaker 2: stay up. You compare it to the likes of Southampton 204 00:10:23,067 --> 00:10:26,067 Speaker 2: Wolves and Crystal Palace, So we're really battling down the bottom. 205 00:10:26,307 --> 00:10:28,707 Speaker 2: I think, you know what what Camp, what Chris Wood's 206 00:10:28,707 --> 00:10:30,667 Speaker 2: doing for Forest right now will probably keep them up. 207 00:10:31,627 --> 00:10:34,667 Speaker 3: Well, I know it's exactly right. So this is the thing. 208 00:10:34,987 --> 00:10:38,707 Speaker 3: Old fashion strikers. Even the phrase is the meaning for 209 00:10:38,787 --> 00:10:41,427 Speaker 3: someone who's that good at their job, they should have 210 00:10:41,907 --> 00:10:44,387 Speaker 3: really thought about what their team needs. And even Pep 211 00:10:44,427 --> 00:10:47,507 Speaker 3: Guardiola went for an old fashion striker in Earling Harlan, 212 00:10:47,627 --> 00:10:50,627 Speaker 3: so I know he was mentioned a little bit in 213 00:10:50,667 --> 00:10:52,827 Speaker 3: dispatches with some bigger clubs. I'm glad he's gone to 214 00:10:52,867 --> 00:10:54,907 Speaker 3: Forest because he's going to be a legend there for 215 00:10:54,947 --> 00:10:56,987 Speaker 3: a long time. And yes he might not be as 216 00:10:57,027 --> 00:10:59,307 Speaker 3: good as Winter Roof are probably the only he's in 217 00:10:59,387 --> 00:11:02,787 Speaker 3: a football footballer who can say is better? But how 218 00:11:02,787 --> 00:11:06,267 Speaker 3: about this, he's also maybe the best footballer out of 219 00:11:06,427 --> 00:11:09,547 Speaker 3: the White cut all since Don Clark. I love it. 220 00:11:09,827 --> 00:11:12,227 Speaker 2: I love it. What a way to finish. Thanks James, 221 00:11:12,387 --> 00:11:14,027 Speaker 2: Enjoy the rest of your long weekend, mate. We'll check 222 00:11:14,067 --> 00:11:16,747 Speaker 2: again next Sunday. James mcconi part of our Sundays 223 00:11:17,067 --> 00:11:20,227 Speaker 1: For more from Weekend Sport with Jason Fine, listen live 224 00:11:20,347 --> 00:11:23,627 Speaker 1: to News Talk Seed B weekends from midday or follow 225 00:11:23,667 --> 00:11:25,267 Speaker 1: the podcast on iHeartRadio.