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Speaker 2: Hi, Deck, you're a good afternoon. Welcome and to the

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Speaker 2: Saturday edition of Weekend Sport on News Talk SeeDB August two.

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Speaker 2: I'm Jason Pine Show produces Any McDonald. Were talking sport

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Speaker 2: until three absolute to heartbreak for the Warriors last night.

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Speaker 3: How they go on chants here for the Dolphins be

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Speaker 3: the turner pasa.

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Speaker 2: Are you serious? Yes, deadly serious? The Dolphins getting up

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Speaker 2: right at the end to beat the Warriors twenty eighteen.

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Speaker 2: Your reaction this hour, we'll get some expert analysis. Michael

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Speaker 2: Burgess out of the New Zealand Herald to join us.

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Speaker 2: Matt Russell from Foxport as well. But it's your views.

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Speaker 2: I'm really interested and could the Warriors have done anything

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Speaker 2: differently last night? And is this still a top four

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Speaker 2: side or is the injury list just going to stemy

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Speaker 2: their chances of that. Lines open immediately on the Warriors

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Speaker 2: and across the r as well other matters around today

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Speaker 2: quite a bit. Rob Penny is with us after one

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Speaker 2: o'clock with a freshly signed contract extension to guide the

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Speaker 2: Super Rugby champion Crusaders again next season. Did he have

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Speaker 2: any thoughts that he might be done after twenty twenty

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Speaker 2: five or was he always keen to come back and

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Speaker 2: defend Rob Penny after one The Red Philly Shields on

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Speaker 2: the line in New Plymouth tonight holds Taranaky looking defend

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Speaker 2: off the challenge of the Northland Tunney farh Josh Jacob

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Speaker 2: from Taranaki. Simon Parker out of Northland Chiefs teammates ring

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Speaker 2: Super Rugby opponents tonight in New Plymouth and it is

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Speaker 2: stagdating in Theicargan Southland v Otago four thirty five. Massive

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Speaker 2: crowd in coming for this one, Southland stalwart Jason Rutler,

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Speaker 2: down into the lead up to the third Wallaby's British

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Speaker 2: and Irish Lions Test tonight, and in particular the fallout

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Speaker 2: from last weekend's controversial second Test and the effect on

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Speaker 2: Wallaby's loose Ford color Tuzano. He's been left out of

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Speaker 2: the side tonight, partly because of the impact of social

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Speaker 2: media on him across the week. Is this the right

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Speaker 2: decision from Wallaby's coach Joe Schmidt will have an examination

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Speaker 2: As defending champions Wellington open their campaign against Canterbury five

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Speaker 2: past two. We'll set the scene there before kickoff and

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Speaker 2: eight hundred and eighty ten eighty. We'll get you through

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Speaker 2: on the phone nine two, nine to two for your

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Speaker 2: texts emails into Jason at NEWSTALKSEB dot co dot nz.

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Speaker 2: It is ten past twelve.

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Speaker 1: When it's down to the line. You made a call

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Speaker 1: hine Us.

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Speaker 2: TALKSB ten and a half past mid day. If the

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Speaker 2: Warriors lose all their remaining games, they'll finished ninth. Says

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Speaker 2: this text, Well, that's the optimism that we wanted to

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Speaker 2: start the show with. Look, no, let's let's not go

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Speaker 2: down that track. I think the Warriors are still a

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Speaker 2: top eight proposition. The issue is, of course that since

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Speaker 2: round six they've been in the top four. We've just

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Speaker 2: got used to seeing them there, haven't we. And I

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Speaker 2: nice and early, and as I say, have lived in

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Speaker 2: the top four since round six is going to help

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Speaker 2: them at the back end of the season. Every season

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Speaker 2: contain blips. It's going to contain periods where you think, oh,

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Speaker 2: if only we'd managed to win that game. It's the

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Speaker 2: get some expert analysis very very shortly. But yeah, you

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Speaker 2: emails to Jason at newstalkzb dot co dot NZ Dolphins

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Speaker 2: winger Jermaine Issako stealing the game, of course with that

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Speaker 2: last minute try. Despite the visit has been down to

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Speaker 2: twelve men back to back defeats for the Warriors. Let's

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Speaker 2: bring in Matt Russell out of Fox Sport. It says,

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Speaker 2: it sounds like you're driving. Did the years like came in?

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Speaker 1: I am?

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Speaker 4: I pull out of the right. I'd a forty yet

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Speaker 4: glory right, h it the Mage round in the women

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Speaker 4: Kah the woll six games, the one who you and

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Speaker 4: I wrote about the first Magic Round. But last night

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Speaker 4: is the Warrior hot right? The Warriors, wasn't that they

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Speaker 4: don't so much worked tottle high two crucial boys offer

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Speaker 4: and I watched the Dolphins school right to get it done?

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Speaker 2: Do you think they could have done anything differently?

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Speaker 4: Meant, of course, I go back and only come about

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Speaker 4: we tweeny your thirsion line. That's why I'd like to

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Speaker 4: do these people do play. That's why now I lost

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Speaker 4: Gigi question absolutely everything I wrote at apparently there at

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Speaker 4: the end of the where we'll speaking to the dolphins

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Speaker 4: to take a short of golf and try and chase

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Speaker 4: Golbart point. You see, I went holing and like believe

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Speaker 4: the NDA did because I play footed. Start on the

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Speaker 4: left and listen to right and Jermain a taco's goal

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Speaker 4: as to winning, try for the topic, you know, question

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Speaker 4: to make the topic. But yes, the Worries look they

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Speaker 4: really look like getting done. They in the top four

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Speaker 4: this dual actually the group, but they aren't deals with

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Speaker 4: a gaming hand. By hearing the mountain injury toll, they're

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Speaker 4: going to have to really earn it for whos they

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Speaker 4: want to beached off for.

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Speaker 2: Yeah and yeah, and that's setting dots. Is a good

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Speaker 2: a good description. Does it feel like I'll be swallowed

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Speaker 2: up for you, Matt?

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Speaker 4: Now I think they will say, I want to be

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Speaker 4: that I worried. I love the fact that when the

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Speaker 4: worry is going where like the quay, you week and

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Speaker 4: look forward to an exciting to joining. The dealer is

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Speaker 4: touching and I'm the figureze Plighting Live is fil a

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Speaker 4: lot of colletry, is the dealer. I love the Worries.

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Speaker 4: I wanted to them do well by job Plenty team

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Speaker 4: as long for topital Beach. Now to the Fuller group

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Speaker 4: from the Fuller papert and the injury that are starting

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Speaker 4: divide on the Warriors, which fine jug group, big top huge,

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Speaker 4: right they were Wade even James Busha, Howers, Chanelle Iris,

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Speaker 4: I won't be back in time the challenge, who are

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Speaker 2: The post, Matt, great to chat may going to leave

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Speaker 2: you with it and the rain there and on the freeway.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate you giving up some of your time, mate,

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Speaker 2: I know you're busy.

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Speaker 5: Thanks.

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Speaker 2: Indeed, Matt Russell had a Fox Sports there rpe you

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Speaker 2: could pick up met okay with the background noise. He

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Speaker 2: made a couple of very salient points and that's the

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Speaker 2: top four is the one for me? Right, you know

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Speaker 2: it's still possible. Five games to go, team points up

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Speaker 2: for grams. You just got to get them, that's all.

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Speaker 2: I've got some thoughts. You'll have yours too. Hello, Greg,

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Speaker 2: Yeah good. You sound a lot less noisy than Matt

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Speaker 2: Matt Russell was. How are you mate?

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 7: Good? Warriors defense, dead composure. I think we're sort of

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Speaker 7: really getting to the depth point of view at the moment,

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Speaker 7: with the number of injuries we've got. I know all

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Speaker 7: teams do get injuries, but we seem to have a

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Speaker 7: lot of injuries in quite key positions. Some of those

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Speaker 7: Defense was pretty good. Instead of being the right side

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Speaker 5: But I but I think.

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Speaker 7: We're just missing a couple of ball playing forwards. I

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Speaker 6: The core.

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Speaker 7: Now to me watching the game last night, they're very

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Speaker 7: single minded players. They don't look for any other opportunity

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Speaker 7: around them. All they were doing was up the middle,

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Speaker 7: we really need a ball playing forward in our repertoire.

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Speaker 7: But I also while watching the game, there was a

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Speaker 7: key moment for me in their lead up to the try.

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Speaker 7: Jackson Ford was penalized earlier in the game for not

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Speaker 7: getting up and playing the ball correctly. They got a

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Speaker 7: somewhere around there. Cody Nukarrema did exactly the same thing,

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Speaker 7: and Ashley Klein let them play on straight after that,

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Speaker 7: there was also a player who ran behind and obstructed

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Speaker 7: you know us. Now, I'm not crying crying about it,

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Speaker 7: but there also needs to be like some consistency about things.

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Speaker 7: If you went back and looked at the game, you'll

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Speaker 2: I will, I will Greg. Yeah, look the depth. The

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Speaker 2: depth conversation is interesting because it's still a good side.

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Speaker 2: There are still good players, but unfortunately, what the injury

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Speaker 2: list has done is forced players out of position. Kirk

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Speaker 2: Capewell into the centers. He played far far more games

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Speaker 2: o'berry and Ali Latawa. Good to see him back in

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Speaker 2: the second row last night. But then Chance Nikol Kluksta

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Speaker 2: So you're forcing guys out of position. But you look

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Speaker 2: at that, there's still good players and you have to say,

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Speaker 2: with eight guys out, I mean I've done tremendously well

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Speaker 2: metcalf Berry Fisher, Harris, light Tower, Egan, Harris, de Vita

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Speaker 2: and Vaimonga all out last night. That is a very

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Speaker 2: long injury list. Thanks for you called Greg and Nikorra.

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Speaker 6: Hello, Yes, good morning to you.

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Speaker 2: How are you very good? Thank you?

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Speaker 8: Look, I think thought, why don't they just put the

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Speaker 8: new South Wales Cup team and play in the main

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Speaker 8: games because the way they play, you know, spin the ball,

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Speaker 8: you know, that's the way the ball beats the man

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Speaker 8: every time. And I can't understand why the backs have

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Speaker 8: to go into the fords all the time. Why do

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Speaker 8: they have to go into a pet where the leaves

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Speaker 8: the exposes the backs on your opposition team. You can

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Speaker 8: see the spacers out. They need to feed the ball more,

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Speaker 8: you know, the backs. Pluck's dead, he's greedy. He goes

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Speaker 8: in it to two about a sick on the outside

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Speaker 8: many times clocks there, goes too much on his own.

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Speaker 8: The opposition and knows what he does. So why don't

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Speaker 8: they change their tactics?

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Speaker 9: You know?

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Speaker 8: And also you know I learned when I played rugby,

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Speaker 8: tap the leagus, one up, one down, one down, get

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Speaker 8: the man on the ground and one up take him upstairs.

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Speaker 8: You've got four forwards trying to stop the man from

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Speaker 8: moving forward and that's where our forwards get tired. They

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Speaker 2: have liked. Thanks for your calling and caught up. Keep

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Speaker 10: but and it's like this happens to us so many times.

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Speaker 2: Those combinations, Mark, Yeah, yeah, sorry, those combinations, I mean,

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Speaker 2: Harris Tavita Metcalf was a great combo. Metcalf's gone in

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Speaker 2: it was it was Yeah, it was solid.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, it was.

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Speaker 10: It was something I was sitting there and you're hoping

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Speaker 10: that's what you want. The triangle and the fact that

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Speaker 10: That's that's the ultimate goal is that they're thinking as

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Speaker 2: Do not lose your passion. Do not look Mark, do

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Speaker 2: not lose your passion ever, Do not lose lose your passion.

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Speaker 2: You make good articulate comments. Mate, Let's have a chat

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Speaker 2: next week Bulldog's next Saturday night. We can get through

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Speaker 2: it together. We can get through it together. Twelve twenty five.

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Speaker 2: Spielin there if you want to jump on, Paul, please

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Speaker 2: News Talk twelve twenty seven, Talking Warriors on our eight

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Speaker 2: hundred and eighty ten to eighty troublers. Piney says, Mike,

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Speaker 2: they're run perfectly for a September finish. I can't think

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Speaker 2: of the top four. Paul mate, Am I wrong to

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Speaker 13: Well, yeah, there's no doubt. I mean I count on

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Speaker 13: But the pleasing thing is finally is that you know

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Speaker 13: that's Piney played last night was a new South Wales

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Speaker 11: I mean, I was hoping for a win, but I wasn't.

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Speaker 13: Expecting a win for us because because of the new

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Speaker 13: for us to take it down to the wire, you know,

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Speaker 13: you know me, finally, I'm I'm an optimist when it

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Speaker 13: the Dragons for Pardons and so forth. So the Dogies

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Speaker 13: will be tough, no doubt about it. But we get

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Speaker 13: finishing fourteens, but if we finished in the eighth this year,

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Speaker 13: you know, that's a massive improvement. That's all we ask.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, totally, and that's it. We're here. We are, you know,

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Speaker 13: Yeah, oh absolutely, So you know all is not lost

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Speaker 13: and like I said, you know, the depth coming through

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Speaker 13: we keep the face, mate, We keep the face and

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Speaker 2: Good man, Paul, always good chatting to you.

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Speaker 2: You bring a level headedness to it that I very

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Speaker 2: much appreciate. Oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is

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Speaker 2: send a text. It was heartbreaking having fought back from

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Speaker 2: in New Zealand Herald at Rugby League writer Michael Burgess birds,

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Speaker 2: you've been following this team for a while. You've seen

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Speaker 2: a lot of games at that venue. Where does last

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Speaker 2: night rank among the cruel finishes that you've seen at

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Speaker 14: Yeah, buy, I've seen a few over the years, but

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Speaker 14: they will be right up there. It really would, because

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Speaker 14: And then they just played played so well, so much

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Speaker 9: Fantastic ever by the Dolphins.

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Speaker 14: And the wider question I guess we've got to think

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Speaker 14: It's always great in hindsight, but I felt there were

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Speaker 14: And then the biggest thing pining, to be honest, was

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Speaker 14: I can remember, back and forward, so much attack, just

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Speaker 9: It would have taken a lot out of them, So

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Speaker 9: there was fatigue. There were players cramping, but also you

430
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Speaker 9: know it's hard.

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Speaker 14: You're thinking, we just had to hang on here, we

432
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Speaker 14: win the game, the tackles are counting down, so just

433
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Speaker 14: felt like they were hanging off a bit and they

434
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Speaker 14: paid the ultimate price. Because the other thing we haven't

435
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Speaker 14: mentioned here is that the Dolphins were down to twelve

436
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Speaker 14: men Foreliseekfusi sinbnd with seven minutes to go.

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Speaker 9: So twelve against thirteen.

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Speaker 14: It's another and why you should be able to hang

439
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Speaker 14: on in another reason why this result will hurt so much.

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Speaker 2: I guess if we flip it though, eight frontline players

441
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Speaker 2: missing birds, you know, a couple of that for season,

442
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Speaker 2: others coming back in dribs and drabs over the next

443
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Speaker 2: few weeks or so. Given that was was this actually

444
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Speaker 2: a pretty good performance from a vastly under strength Warrior's side.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, we can't forget that, Piney, You're exactly right.

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Speaker 14: I mean, they had seven hundred and fifty games of

447
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Speaker 14: ANERL experience sitting on the sideline. And if you make

448
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Speaker 14: a list of their five most important players, four of

449
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Speaker 14: them went there last night, Egan, Fisher, Harris Barnett, Metcalf.

450
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Speaker 14: So you add all that up, they weren't supposed to

451
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Speaker 14: get closer to the Titans, and they played.

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Speaker 9: They played really well.

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Speaker 14: As I mentioned before, this is a vastly superior performance

454
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Speaker 14: the last week against the Dolphins. So they will take

455
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Speaker 14: when the dust settles, they will take positives out of

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Speaker 14: this game, and there's things to build on.

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Speaker 9: I liked the new the new structure they had, the

458
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Speaker 9: new lineup. I like the way they played.

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Speaker 14: But the question will be how much mental and emotional

460
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Speaker 14: energy this kind of defeat also takes out of them, just.

461
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Speaker 2: On the lineup, Chance nikol Klukstar coming into the centers,

462
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Speaker 2: which released Capewell back into the forge, and Andrew Webs

463
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Speaker 2: has been wanting to do that for a while. What

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Speaker 2: did you make of that? Do you think they'll stick

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Speaker 2: with Charms until the likes of Rock o'berry and Ali

466
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Speaker 2: Layatawa are back in the equation.

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Speaker 9: I hope they do. Yeah, I think it will be

468
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Speaker 9: a smart move.

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Speaker 14: I mean Chance, it was only Chance's second NRL game

470
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Speaker 14: at center, which sounds pretty crazy, but he's also played

471
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Speaker 14: seven tests there. As you say, it releases cape Well

472
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Speaker 14: back to the second row, which is is his position.

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Speaker 14: You get eighty minutes out of him there, he was

474
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Speaker 14: excellent again. The other thing it does is that brings

475
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Speaker 14: in tain to old Pecky into fullback and they need

476
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Speaker 14: that spark and that speed, especially without Metcalf now who

477
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Speaker 14: was their X factor player to our peck did well.

478
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Speaker 14: He adds another dimension, so it feels like more of

479
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Speaker 14: a balanced lineup, and you'd think that they'll stick with

480
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Speaker 14: Nickel clock start at center until as you said, the

481
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Speaker 14: specialists comeback, which you know is still a few weeks away.

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Speaker 2: All right, So the Warriors will finish the weekend in

483
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Speaker 2: fourth place, but the chasing pack is closing in Broncos, Panthers,

484
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Speaker 2: even the Dolphins themselves after last night Sharks five games

485
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Speaker 2: to go, Bulldogs away, Dragons home, Titans away, Eels home,

486
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Speaker 2: See Eagles away. Are the Warriors still a top four side?

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Speaker 14: Well, they haven't been playing like one, have they? If

488
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Speaker 14: we're frank, They've lost four of their last six games.

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Speaker 14: I think the thing that's hurt them the most is

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Speaker 14: they've lost four of the four of five games at

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Speaker 14: Mount Smart.

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Speaker 9: You know who would have picked that this paird was.

493
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Speaker 14: Supposed to be their time of milk and honey, all

494
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Speaker 14: these games at home, and it just hasn't worked out

495
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Speaker 14: like that. So of course they can still furnished in

496
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Speaker 14: the top four, but whether they will is looking increasingly

497
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Speaker 14: unlikely because the Bulldogs, i mean far out of them

498
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Speaker 14: and they lost a couple of games all season.

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Speaker 9: They're going great.

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Speaker 14: The Dragons are a decent team, as you say they've

501
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Speaker 14: got and then they've got the Titans away the ultimate

502
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Speaker 14: bogie team, and the Seagles match you mentioned that will

503
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Speaker 14: just happen to be daily Cherry Evans last Metro, mainly

504
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Speaker 14: after he's played a thousand games there, so you'd think

505
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Speaker 14: that'd be quite a hostile occasion. So yeah, it's it's

506
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Speaker 14: not stacking up great, but I guess look, they're still

507
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Speaker 14: in They're still in the top four.

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Speaker 9: They've got to find a way to stay there. If

509
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Speaker 9: they slipped to fifth or six, it wouldn't be.

510
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Speaker 14: The end of the world because they still have a

511
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Speaker 14: home home semi final, but they will lose their second life.

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Speaker 9: So really, you really want to stay in the top four.

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Speaker 14: But a combination of you know, a loss of a

514
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Speaker 14: bit of confidence in Mojo and critically all these this

515
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Speaker 14: injury crisis just happening at the worst possible time has

516
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Speaker 14: has really really stalled all that momentum ahead in May

517
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Speaker 14: in early June.

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Speaker 2: Indeed, yep a very challenging final five rounds to play

519
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Speaker 2: for the Warriors. Appreciate your time as always, Burge, enjoy

520
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Speaker 2: the rest of your weekend, mate, Thanks for joining us. Thanks.

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Speaker 9: By now, I mean the sun shining in Auckland. So

522
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Speaker 9: you know we keep going, don't we? We do? We do.

523
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Speaker 2: There's no other way, Berg, There's no other way. Thanks mate,

524
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Speaker 2: Michael Burgess. Read him at enzidherld dot co dot z

525
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Speaker 2: linees open oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty will

526
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Speaker 2: talk league until one speed line there if you want

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Speaker 2: to jump on. Should they have taken that shot? A

528
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Speaker 2: goal at the end or near the end they will

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Speaker 2: bot two points ahead that would have taken them out

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Speaker 2: to four points. Possibly they should have taken it. Hindsight

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Speaker 2: would say definitely they should have. But hindsight's always almost

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty, isn't. It only takes you out to a

533
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Speaker 2: four point lead. It's not as though they would have

534
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Speaker 2: been well clear. They just decided instead to try and

535
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Speaker 2: keep the Dolphins down that end instead of giving them

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Speaker 2: the ball back from a kickoff, and think Andrew Webster

537
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Speaker 2: said afterwards, if you take the two points, give the

538
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Speaker 2: Dolphins the kickoff, they take a short one and then

539
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Speaker 2: go for a try. You know you're kicking yourself, aren't you.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's not the worst call in the world

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Speaker 2: to not take the two and to instead keep the

542
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Speaker 2: Dolphins down that end and back your defense to keep

543
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Speaker 2: them there or not let them advance. Still, it is

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Speaker 2: a game management decision which you can comment on if

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Speaker 2: you would like to. Player Wise, I mentioned a couple

546
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Speaker 2: of players as I said, thought Sam Heley was good

547
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Speaker 2: in the hooker role. Just a second start, third game

548
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Speaker 2: all season. He can be very proud of his outing.

549
00:29:45,267 --> 00:29:47,267
Speaker 2: He's been a big part of that new Southwest Cup site.

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Speaker 2: Of course. Similarly, I thought timmightighty Martin was good at

551
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Speaker 2: five eighth. I thought he was good there. I'd say

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Speaker 2: Wade Egan and Chanelle Harris Tavita probably come back in

553
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Speaker 2: next week when they're available again, but I think Sam

554
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Speaker 2: Heley and Timarty Martin gave good accounts of themselves. Great

555
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Speaker 2: to see Tang Dou. I'll pick you back there at fullback.

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Speaker 2: I think you leave them there now, don't you, at

557
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Speaker 2: least for the meantime chance Nok Klukstan to the centers.

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Speaker 2: I think you leave him there, Kirk cape Or goes

559
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Speaker 2: back into the second row, which is where he should be,

560
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Speaker 2: and you just wait for the cavalry to arrive. Rock

561
00:30:17,467 --> 00:30:20,867
Speaker 2: o'berry Alida were back two or three weeks away, so

562
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Speaker 2: let's hope that they, you know, are on track and

563
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Speaker 2: can can join in in a couple of weeks. And

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Speaker 2: just on Dellan what Tennis Lesniak. He gets a lot

565
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Speaker 2: of flak, or has in recent times about his defense

566
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Speaker 2: down that right edge, but he pulled off a trice

567
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Speaker 2: saving intercept late on, plus a couple of tries and

568
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Speaker 2: Lecqua Helisima. Just that Trive has the latest example of

569
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Speaker 2: his incredible emergence as an NRL superstar in the making.

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Speaker 2: Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty for your thoughts

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Speaker 2: twenty to one back after this.

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Speaker 1: You be the TMO. Have your say on eight hundred

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Speaker 1: and eighty ten eighty Weekend Sport with Jason him and GJ.

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Speaker 2: News Talks are sixteen away from one. Some of the

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Speaker 2: thoughts of Andrew Webster shortly after the game.

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Speaker 6: Good I Cameron, gooday, Pony, how you go mate?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, very good things mate, thanks for you cool.

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Speaker 6: Yeah no, I just thought, like you know, I mean,

580
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Speaker 6: I know the Warriors lost last night, but you know,

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Speaker 6: in past years, if you take out the amount of

582
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Speaker 6: starting talent that the Warriors team are effectively playing without

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Speaker 6: at the moment, they really gave a good account of themselves,

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Speaker 6: you know, And I just think it shows that there's

585
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Speaker 6: obviously a spell at that club now and and a

586
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Speaker 6: depth that maybe they haven't had and maybe the past decades.

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Speaker 6: You know that haw is allowing them to compete even

588
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Speaker 6: in games when they probably shouldn't be competing.

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Speaker 2: Oh look, I think take eight frontline players out of

590
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Speaker 2: any squad and they're going to be tested for their depth,

591
00:31:56,947 --> 00:31:59,427
Speaker 2: aren't they. And as you say, Cameron, you know, in

592
00:31:59,867 --> 00:32:03,227
Speaker 2: past years, eight players out of the Warriors squad would

593
00:32:03,227 --> 00:32:06,867
Speaker 2: have would have basically decimated any chance they had. And

594
00:32:07,107 --> 00:32:09,627
Speaker 2: the fact is they took another top eight side to

595
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Speaker 2: the very final minute before eventually losing by two points.

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Speaker 2: I mean, this Dolphins team ain't a bad team.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, No, I mean exactly. I mean, Cart, there's some

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Speaker 6: of those guys and those teams you know, that's a

599
00:32:22,507 --> 00:32:25,587
Speaker 6: Dolphins team that's performing really well, and I just thought,

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Speaker 6: like considering the late the late changes they had to

601
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Speaker 6: make Kelsey, with the reshuffle of the back line, I

602
00:32:32,187 --> 00:32:35,347
Speaker 6: thought that they obviously there's inner steel in that club now,

603
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Speaker 6: and I think that something they should really be proud of.

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Speaker 6: So who is driving that?

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Speaker 2: It's a great observation. It is a really good observation, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: that that there's something that has been that has been

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Speaker 2: instilled in that playing group now that there is a

608
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Speaker 2: next man up mentality. Every club says they have it,

609
00:32:50,907 --> 00:32:53,187
Speaker 2: every club, yet you know, we deal with injuries, next

610
00:32:53,227 --> 00:32:55,787
Speaker 2: man up, all that sort of thing. But you know,

611
00:32:55,947 --> 00:32:58,147
Speaker 2: the proof is in, as you've said, the pudding here,

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Speaker 2: where's its sp a spine of a new south West

613
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Speaker 2: Cup site. There are guys in there. We had another

614
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Speaker 2: debut last night, players who've hardly played this season getting

615
00:33:06,027 --> 00:33:08,627
Speaker 2: decent minutes and you know, at the end of the

616
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Speaker 2: weekend they'll still be fourth. So you know it's you know,

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Speaker 2: it's not a the wor not the worst scenario in

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Speaker 2: the world. Thanks Cameron, I appreciate your call. Oh eight

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Speaker 2: hundred and eighty ten eighty great text here from Luke

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Speaker 2: which is along similar lines given the context, says Luke.

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Speaker 2: I think the Warriors can hold their heads high late

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Speaker 2: scratchings missing. Our front row, hooker and center team is

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Speaker 2: full of youth, a debutante. We'll bounce back. The Dolphins

624
00:33:32,347 --> 00:33:34,667
Speaker 2: put forty four on the Dogs, forty two on the

625
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Speaker 2: Storm and they only scored eighteen against our injury ravage side.

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Speaker 2: We showed positive signs and I'm backing an upset next week,

627
00:33:42,707 --> 00:33:45,267
Speaker 2: says Luke against the Dogs. And yes, by the way,

628
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Speaker 2: Tane is our full back moving forward. He opened up

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Speaker 2: that right edge and chance gave us some strong defense

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Speaker 2: on the edge. Thank you, Luke, appreciate it very much.

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Speaker 2: Andrew Webster on the decision last night to not take

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Speaker 2: the penalty late on, he missed this. They were down

633
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Speaker 2: at the Dolphins end, were given a penalty and Dolphins

634
00:34:07,147 --> 00:34:09,507
Speaker 2: player was showing a yellow cat or got ten of

635
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Speaker 2: the bin. I'm mixing up my sports here, got ten

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Speaker 2: of the bin for the tackle on Jacob Laban, And

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Speaker 2: so there was the opportunity to take two points and

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Speaker 2: go ahead by what would it have been twenty points

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Speaker 2: to sixteen with about six or seven minutes to go.

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Speaker 2: In the post match press conference. That question was posed

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Speaker 2: to Kurt Capewell, who was up the front with Andrew Webster.

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Speaker 2: And Andrew Webster actually took on the answer himself. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: that was my call.

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Speaker 15: Like if you're if you kick that goal and you

645
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Speaker 15: get a lead and then they go, sure, get the

646
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Speaker 15: ball back and score. You know, if you give yourself

647
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Speaker 15: what you want to put them, you want to put

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Speaker 15: them there for the next rest of the game. Just

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Speaker 15: put him in the corner, keep them there, don't let

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Speaker 15: him out.

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Speaker 2: And that's you know, you're making.

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Speaker 15: It the hardest play for the opposition possibly can as

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Speaker 15: if they go short, get the ball buck which a

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Speaker 15: lot of teams are good at these days. Then now

655
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Speaker 15: you're back defending your answer Borough decision. And like you said,

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Speaker 15: the spine that so they control things.

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Speaker 2: Well there there you go. That's the explanation of why

658
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Speaker 2: they didn't take it. So that message came down from

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Speaker 2: upstairs from Andrew Webster. He said, do not take the two.

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Speaker 2: Do not take the two, and he outlined the reasons

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Speaker 2: why they're Hindsight's wonderful.

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Speaker 11: It is.

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Speaker 2: Hindsight's a wonderful thing. You know, you can say I

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Speaker 2: take the two and there you know, there are twenty

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Speaker 2: points to sixteen ahead, and even if the Dolphins score

666
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Speaker 2: at the end, it's twenty all and all that. But

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Speaker 2: you know, you, once they take the two, the game

668
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Speaker 2: takes a different path, and it could take the path

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Speaker 2: that Andrew Webster was talking about there of the Dolphins

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Speaker 2: taking a short kickoff, regathering scoring a try, and all

671
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Speaker 2: of a sudden you look like a mugfer taking the

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Speaker 2: two and not keeping them down that end no win situation.

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Speaker 2: Hindsight's always twenty twenty. Is there quite a bit to

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Speaker 2: process after this game for Andrew Webster? Not really, No,

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Speaker 2: I know that we're lost on the bell. The game

676
00:35:59,347 --> 00:36:01,427
Speaker 2: is in our hands. Are then we turn the ball

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Speaker 2: over in two really good spots late we let him out.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, that's the frustrating bit. I'm so proud of.

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Speaker 15: The way we started the second half and probably for

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Speaker 15: major of that second half we played with such spirit

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Speaker 15: and we really started to put them under pressure with

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Speaker 15: our defense. But yeah, that's pretty It's pretty simple, like

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Speaker 15: we gave ourselves a good opportunity in the game and

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Speaker 15: we didn't. We didn't find a way at then. Just see,

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Speaker 15: oh I haven't looked at it closely. I haven't analyzed it.

686
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Speaker 15: When those moments happened and you know the sirens going,

687
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Speaker 15: you tend to leave straight away to the sheds. But yeah,

688
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Speaker 15: it felt like our body language could have been better

689
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Speaker 15: and we could add thirteen guys standing in the straight

690
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Speaker 15: line twelve in the straight line and would have made

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Speaker 15: it harder for them. So but we'll learn from that,

692
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Speaker 15: Like there's lots to be proud of, but there's the

693
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Speaker 15: stuff that we can control.

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Speaker 2: Such an interesting observation. They're the body language at the end. Yeah,

695
00:37:04,107 --> 00:37:07,547
Speaker 2: they're thirteen against twelve. The maths would tell you you

696
00:37:07,747 --> 00:37:10,147
Speaker 2: should be able to keep them out. Mike says, sorry, Piney,

697
00:37:10,187 --> 00:37:11,907
Speaker 2: injuries or not, they should have closed that game out

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Speaker 2: against twelve men. Last week against the Titans, no excuses.

699
00:37:16,027 --> 00:37:18,907
Speaker 2: Boys are close, but not close enough. Jamie says, pinety,

700
00:37:18,947 --> 00:37:21,067
Speaker 2: the time for talking growth and all that is over.

701
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Speaker 2: Thirty years is too long for winning nothing and die

702
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Speaker 2: hard Manly Sea Eagles supporter here living in Wellington. The

703
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Speaker 2: Sea Eagles will beat the Warriors in the last game

704
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Speaker 2: of the season and it'll cost the Warriors their spot

705
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Speaker 2: on the top eight. They'll end up ninth. Goodness me,

706
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Speaker 2: I hope that doesn't happen. I don't think the Warriors

707
00:37:39,907 --> 00:37:42,707
Speaker 2: is going to drop out of the eight, although that

708
00:37:42,907 --> 00:37:48,467
Speaker 2: last game is against the Sea Eagles. Yeah, as Bird

709
00:37:48,547 --> 00:37:52,787
Speaker 2: said Michael Burgess, there's going to be Daily Cherry Evans'

710
00:37:52,867 --> 00:37:55,787
Speaker 2: final game, so there'll be some emotion wrapped around it,

711
00:37:56,187 --> 00:37:57,947
Speaker 2: although of course if they make it into the eight,

712
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Speaker 2: it won't be but if the Sea Eagles are out

713
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Speaker 2: of top eight contention, there's still some emotion riding around

714
00:38:03,427 --> 00:38:06,747
Speaker 2: that game. Daily Cherry Evans, one of Manly's favorite sons,

715
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Speaker 2: playing his final game. I think everybody will be getting

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Speaker 2: up for that game and the Manly jersey, regardless of

717
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Speaker 2: whether the top eight's on the line or not. No

718
00:38:14,547 --> 00:38:16,787
Speaker 2: easy games in this competition. Look a month ago, I

719
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Speaker 2: remember looking. We had this conversation a month ago, you know,

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Speaker 2: after the losses to the Panthers and the Broncos. We said, okay,

721
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Speaker 2: well that's right because we've got the Tigers, the Knights,

722
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Speaker 2: the Titans, and the Dolphins, and three of those four

723
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Speaker 2: games are at home, so we should be okay. And

724
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Speaker 2: we started off okay, beat the Tigers. Then there was

725
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Speaker 2: that when away at the Knights, but that was right

726
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Speaker 2: at the end, and then back to back losses to

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Speaker 2: the Titans and the Dolphins at home. And now you

728
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Speaker 2: look ahead and you say Bulldogs away, that's tough. Well,

729
00:38:50,547 --> 00:38:52,587
Speaker 2: Dragons are there and that's tough. Titans they beat us,

730
00:38:52,587 --> 00:38:54,187
Speaker 2: they're our bogey team. Got to go over there and

731
00:38:54,227 --> 00:38:57,387
Speaker 2: try and win. Eels at home, Seagulls away. I mean,

732
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Speaker 2: your guess is as good as mine as to what

733
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Speaker 2: the last five games will produce. On the positive side,

734
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Speaker 2: the guys coming back in Chanelle Harris, Ta Vita back

735
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Speaker 2: next week, Wade Egan back next week, Ali Le'i Dawa

736
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Speaker 2: two weeks away, James Fisher Harris two weeks away, Rock

737
00:39:20,547 --> 00:39:25,467
Speaker 2: o'berry two to three weeks away. So by the time

738
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Speaker 2: we reached the business end, the back end of the

739
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Speaker 2: season and into the top eight and into the postseason,

740
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Speaker 2: which I fully expect us to be involved in, he

741
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Speaker 2: got some big players back. You keep your fingers crossed.

742
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Speaker 2: There are no more injuries and dimetric weimonga last night

743
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Speaker 2: the latest. Haven't heard what his status is. But your

744
00:39:50,027 --> 00:39:53,467
Speaker 2: luck's got to turn sometime, doesn't it? Surely to goodness?

745
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Speaker 2: Eight to one News talks.

746
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Speaker 1: eNB analyzing every view from every angle in the sporting world.

747
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Speaker 1: Weekends for it with Jason Vaie. They're call eight hundred

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Speaker 1: and eighty eight News Talks.

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Speaker 2: eNB five to one. Final piece of audio from Andrew Webster.

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Speaker 2: Does last night hurt more given the fact that they

751
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Speaker 2: almost got there with so many players out.

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Speaker 15: Honestly coming in and I we didn't think we were depleted.

753
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Speaker 15: We were really happy in the seveneen we put out,

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Speaker 15: so you know, like we've got a squad here that

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Speaker 15: we believe in. So that's not why I'm frustrated that

756
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Speaker 15: people think we're depleted. Like I'm just there's so many

757
00:40:34,387 --> 00:40:34,907
Speaker 15: good signs.

758
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Speaker 2: But yeah, it's just it's hard to take obviously because such.

759
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Speaker 15: A dramatic finished shit, no one's going to lie here.

760
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Speaker 15: You get your hopes up, don't you think she's very

761
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Speaker 15: close here? And then gets taken away from him And

762
00:40:45,867 --> 00:40:48,467
Speaker 15: that's that's hard, and we're to move on and get

763
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Speaker 15: on with the next show.

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Speaker 2: It's Andrew webs The final couple of texts, one here

765
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Speaker 2: from Jason Metcalf is the key. We underestimate how good

766
00:40:54,587 --> 00:40:56,747
Speaker 2: he is in the last two years. He's been injured

767
00:40:56,907 --> 00:40:59,147
Speaker 2: in both years when he was out, we struggled. When

768
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Speaker 2: he returned, we flourished. He's the touch of class that

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Speaker 2: consistently lifts this team. Thank you, Jason. Susie says Jason,

770
00:41:05,387 --> 00:41:07,547
Speaker 2: we need to keep the faith. Lots of great young

771
00:41:07,627 --> 00:41:09,667
Speaker 2: players coming through. I watch them every week. They're my

772
00:41:09,747 --> 00:41:12,227
Speaker 2: favorite team of all sports. Let's not be too harsh

773
00:41:12,267 --> 00:41:14,267
Speaker 2: on them up. There was good on your Susan and

774
00:41:14,667 --> 00:41:16,867
Speaker 2: from Paul. Last year there was finished thirteenth, so a

775
00:41:16,907 --> 00:41:19,747
Speaker 2: top eight finish is a massive improvement considering we now

776
00:41:19,827 --> 00:41:22,067
Speaker 2: have a new South Wales Cup spine and all of

777
00:41:22,147 --> 00:41:24,267
Speaker 2: these injuries. Thank you for all your calls and correspondence

778
00:41:24,267 --> 00:41:27,987
Speaker 2: on the Warriors. After one o'clock, the freshly re signed

779
00:41:28,027 --> 00:41:29,467
Speaker 2: Crusader's head coach Rob Penny.

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Speaker 1: The only place to discuss the biggest fourse issues on

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00:41:34,467 --> 00:41:38,347
Speaker 1: and after fields. It's all on Weekends Ford with Jason

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Speaker 1: Paine on your home of Sports.

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Speaker 9: New York.

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Speaker 2: Hello there, welcome and welcome back. This is Weekend Sport

785
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Speaker 2: on News Talk. Said b I'm Jason Pine seven seven

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Speaker 2: no one O seven one O seven not seven oh

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Speaker 2: one before seven oh one. There be a ram fairly

788
00:41:53,627 --> 00:41:56,427
Speaker 2: shield challenge just about to start. Speaking of eis next

789
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Speaker 2: our Josh Jacob out of Tallanaki and Simon Parker out

790
00:42:02,467 --> 00:42:05,547
Speaker 2: of the Northland Tunny Far Chiefs teammates during the year,

791
00:42:06,467 --> 00:42:09,467
Speaker 2: but adversaries tonight with the log of wood on the sideline.

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00:42:10,787 --> 00:42:12,507
Speaker 2: That's next our this hour. Actually we're going to get

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Speaker 2: you out to Potty Duer in Wellington's northern suburbs, where

794
00:42:17,387 --> 00:42:20,707
Speaker 2: the Wellington MPC side are about to start their title

795
00:42:20,787 --> 00:42:26,427
Speaker 2: defense against one of their oldest foes, Canterbury. The decision

796
00:42:26,467 --> 00:42:29,827
Speaker 2: made by Wellington Rugby this year to take all games

797
00:42:30,187 --> 00:42:33,107
Speaker 2: home games that is, away from Sky Stadium and play

798
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Speaker 2: them in the much smaller venue of Pottydoor Park Jerry

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Speaker 2: Collins Stadium, as it's known out there. Good decision, good decision.

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Speaker 2: It's a good piece of good piece of grass out there,

801
00:42:43,787 --> 00:42:48,267
Speaker 2: much more intimate for spectators, much more fitting for games

802
00:42:48,347 --> 00:42:53,107
Speaker 2: of this magnitude. Tony Giles is the CEO of Wellington Rugby.

803
00:42:53,147 --> 00:42:56,667
Speaker 2: He is with us this hour Rock Penny, shortly having

804
00:42:56,787 --> 00:42:59,467
Speaker 2: re signed as head coach of the Crusaders Adam Peacock

805
00:42:59,467 --> 00:43:02,227
Speaker 2: a bit later on this hour. Our numbers eight hundred

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Speaker 2: and eighty, ten to eighty. Always enjoy hearing from you.

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Speaker 2: Our text line is not you can send your thoughts

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Speaker 2: and by checks in any time, We'll flick me an

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00:43:11,267 --> 00:43:15,747
Speaker 2: email Jason at NEWSTALKSDB dot co dot nz. But yeah,

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Speaker 2: let's go to Robpenny confirmation this week that he will

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Speaker 2: return for next year's Super Rugby Pacific title defense after

812
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Speaker 2: guiding the Crusaders to his maiden title this year.

813
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Speaker 3: The Crusaders have done us the Rotts please good please

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Speaker 3: the rock Pennistine the Crusaders return to cocker.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Robpenny confirmed on Wednesday as returning to the top

816
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Speaker 2: job next year. He joins us now, Rob, congratulations on

817
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Speaker 2: the contract extension. Was it a relatively straightforward decision to

818
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Speaker 2: throw your hat back in the ring.

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Speaker 16: You know, once the review was completed and the information

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Speaker 16: disseminated out of it. Yeah, that was really organized waiting

821
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Speaker 16: for to make sure there was no blind spots or

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Speaker 16: anything that might put the organized and the compromise position.

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Speaker 16: So yeah, it was wonderful to accept the opportunity again.

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Speaker 2: So there was never a thought in your mind between

825
00:44:15,027 --> 00:44:17,227
Speaker 2: the back end of the season or after the Super

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Speaker 2: Rugby Final and now that you thought maybe I won't

827
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Speaker 2: go around.

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Speaker 16: Again, only if the review had worked out the way

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Speaker 16: it had Certainly, as I always said, you know, I

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Speaker 16: wasn't wanted here, I would never stay, but you know

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Speaker 16: that wasn't the case, so wrapped to be doing it again?

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Speaker 2: Do you whose opinion do you seek out apart from

833
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Speaker 2: the review? Like would you go to the senior players

834
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Speaker 2: and say to them, how are you yappy for me

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Speaker 2: to stay? That sort of thing.

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Speaker 16: They're all part of the review. Yeah, yeah, of course,

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Speaker 16: and there's lots of conversations headed across multiple platforms, and yeah,

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Speaker 16: all that's taken into consideration. And there's many people you know,

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Speaker 16: from outside of the type group, I guess that are

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Speaker 16: across what's happening daily with the group, and their opinions

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Speaker 16: matter as well, So multiply multiply layered in terms of

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Speaker 16: the feedback.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, so we've we've got your locked in

844
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Speaker 2: for next year? Will you stick with your same coaching group?

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Speaker 16: Yeah, it's one of the big things that uh, you know,

846
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Speaker 16: it was a really keen had some solidity. We've had,

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Speaker 16: you know, changes from when I came in there was

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Speaker 16: two new coaches and one of them moving into a

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Speaker 16: new role. Then the end of last year, obviously Tim's

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Speaker 16: got called into the all black environment, so we had

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Speaker 16: another change there and another change of role internally, and

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Speaker 16: so the continuity and the synergy that we can develop

853
00:45:46,107 --> 00:45:48,267
Speaker 16: on the back of that continuity is really important. And

854
00:45:48,867 --> 00:45:51,747
Speaker 16: so yeah, there'll be no changes in the coaching roster,

855
00:45:51,827 --> 00:45:53,347
Speaker 16: which is outstanding there.

856
00:45:53,547 --> 00:45:55,587
Speaker 2: When you look at those guys James Marshall, Matt Todd,

857
00:45:55,667 --> 00:45:58,547
Speaker 2: Dan Pear and Brad Moore, they're all at different stages

858
00:45:58,587 --> 00:46:02,747
Speaker 2: of their coaching journey, aren't they. How much responsibility, rob

859
00:46:02,787 --> 00:46:05,747
Speaker 2: do you feel for developing them so they can go

860
00:46:05,907 --> 00:46:08,147
Speaker 2: on to check their coaching ambitions if they choose to

861
00:46:08,187 --> 00:46:08,427
Speaker 2: do so.

862
00:46:09,827 --> 00:46:14,787
Speaker 16: I think it's encumbered on anyone in a situation where

863
00:46:14,827 --> 00:46:16,667
Speaker 16: I guess they have a senior role to make sure

864
00:46:16,707 --> 00:46:20,667
Speaker 16: that they're thinking about succession, planning and developing their people.

865
00:46:20,787 --> 00:46:22,107
Speaker 16: And we're no different.

866
00:46:23,667 --> 00:46:26,467
Speaker 9: I really enjoy that part of it.

867
00:46:26,627 --> 00:46:29,267
Speaker 16: Like when you finish playing and you can't play anymore,

868
00:46:29,267 --> 00:46:31,707
Speaker 16: you live your life through the game, through your players.

869
00:46:31,787 --> 00:46:34,547
Speaker 16: And then the coaching part of it is you know

870
00:46:34,627 --> 00:46:38,387
Speaker 16: when you've come and I guess being less time at

871
00:46:38,467 --> 00:46:41,827
Speaker 16: the cold face on the grasp of supporting those that

872
00:46:41,987 --> 00:46:47,107
Speaker 16: are and you know, nurturing them and providing any wisdom

873
00:46:47,187 --> 00:46:51,907
Speaker 16: and seeking outside help to come in and be inspirational

874
00:46:52,387 --> 00:46:57,227
Speaker 16: and educational for their growth, and you know, I really

875
00:46:57,307 --> 00:46:59,667
Speaker 16: enjoy that component of it, so that'll continue.

876
00:47:00,147 --> 00:47:01,947
Speaker 2: Is it true that Dan Perrin had a coughing fit

877
00:47:01,987 --> 00:47:03,187
Speaker 2: for about the first half hour of the.

878
00:47:03,227 --> 00:47:10,707
Speaker 16: Final poor man, he got some little, some little issue,

879
00:47:10,827 --> 00:47:13,987
Speaker 16: and I think he vomited at one point. But it

880
00:47:14,147 --> 00:47:15,987
Speaker 16: wasn't the prettiest of place to be for the first

881
00:47:16,027 --> 00:47:19,787
Speaker 16: fifteen minutes save it distracting, to be honest, But we

882
00:47:19,907 --> 00:47:22,147
Speaker 16: got there. The big Man's on the road to recovery,

883
00:47:22,227 --> 00:47:22,827
Speaker 16: which is awesome.

884
00:47:22,907 --> 00:47:25,067
Speaker 2: Good to hear, good to hear. Did the prospect of

885
00:47:25,147 --> 00:47:28,547
Speaker 2: playing in a brand new stadium next year play any

886
00:47:28,627 --> 00:47:29,627
Speaker 2: part in your decision?

887
00:47:31,227 --> 00:47:34,187
Speaker 16: Yeah, i'd be you know, I would be reticent to

888
00:47:34,227 --> 00:47:37,587
Speaker 16: say it didn't because it's going to be quite a

889
00:47:37,707 --> 00:47:41,467
Speaker 16: unique situation and just you know, to get involved in

890
00:47:41,587 --> 00:47:46,587
Speaker 16: that special place will be, you be wonderful, and you know,

891
00:47:46,707 --> 00:47:48,387
Speaker 16: to be part of the group that gets on there

892
00:47:48,427 --> 00:47:51,307
Speaker 16: for the first time will be you know, just I

893
00:47:51,387 --> 00:47:53,987
Speaker 16: guess a part of the attraction, But it wasn't. If

894
00:47:54,147 --> 00:47:57,187
Speaker 16: you know, if we had been paying it at renual

895
00:47:57,307 --> 00:47:59,867
Speaker 16: domain for the year, it wouldn't have changed my decision.

896
00:47:59,907 --> 00:48:02,827
Speaker 16: It was you know, it was all about how good

897
00:48:02,907 --> 00:48:05,187
Speaker 16: this group's going to be next year, and the excitement

898
00:48:05,227 --> 00:48:05,707
Speaker 16: on the back.

899
00:48:05,587 --> 00:48:08,587
Speaker 2: Of that Addington I know that it's had it. It's

900
00:48:08,627 --> 00:48:10,347
Speaker 2: had its to tractors and you've got this brand you

901
00:48:10,427 --> 00:48:11,827
Speaker 2: call a sceum you're going to be playing in which

902
00:48:11,827 --> 00:48:14,667
Speaker 2: will be magnificent. But will any part of you, will

903
00:48:14,667 --> 00:48:17,867
Speaker 2: the Crusader's organization be sorry to say goodbye to Eddington?

904
00:48:18,587 --> 00:48:21,227
Speaker 16: Oh yeah, lots of people will be. It's I think

905
00:48:21,307 --> 00:48:27,707
Speaker 16: it's had for trophy successes there in its tenure, so

906
00:48:27,827 --> 00:48:31,387
Speaker 16: it's a special place. You know, it looks humble, but

907
00:48:31,467 --> 00:48:34,827
Speaker 16: that that reflects I guess you know, the attitude that

908
00:48:34,907 --> 00:48:37,867
Speaker 16: emanates out of here. It's it's not pretentious, and it's

909
00:48:38,227 --> 00:48:41,107
Speaker 16: and it's done a great job, and it's it's lasted

910
00:48:41,147 --> 00:48:42,427
Speaker 16: a hell of a lot longer than it was ever

911
00:48:42,507 --> 00:48:45,747
Speaker 16: meant to. And so you know, it was lovely to

912
00:48:45,787 --> 00:48:47,787
Speaker 16: be able to send her off in the appropriate manner.

913
00:48:48,867 --> 00:48:53,587
Speaker 16: And as we build into what will be an incredible

914
00:48:53,667 --> 00:48:57,227
Speaker 16: stadium for not only for our region and this province,

915
00:48:57,267 --> 00:49:00,227
Speaker 16: but also for the country. The size of the stadium

916
00:49:00,267 --> 00:49:03,467
Speaker 16: and the ability to sort of guarantee what the weather

917
00:49:03,587 --> 00:49:06,627
Speaker 16: is going to be like inside it is is going

918
00:49:06,707 --> 00:49:09,867
Speaker 16: to be one of a great fasfect for the development

919
00:49:09,867 --> 00:49:10,267
Speaker 16: of the game.

920
00:49:10,667 --> 00:49:12,427
Speaker 2: You've had a bit of time to reflect on the

921
00:49:12,467 --> 00:49:15,387
Speaker 2: twenty twenty five season, the Grand Final, those wonderful scenes

922
00:49:15,427 --> 00:49:20,187
Speaker 2: at Addington sort of around June. June twenty one, I

923
00:49:20,267 --> 00:49:23,267
Speaker 2: think was the Grand Final. Have you been able to

924
00:49:23,387 --> 00:49:26,547
Speaker 2: put your finger on anything that was markedly different in

925
00:49:26,627 --> 00:49:29,427
Speaker 2: twenty twenty five compared to twenty twenty four.

926
00:49:31,307 --> 00:49:32,987
Speaker 16: Well, I think I've said that several times. You know,

927
00:49:33,107 --> 00:49:36,627
Speaker 16: the playing roster was the biggest one we had, you know,

928
00:49:37,067 --> 00:49:40,107
Speaker 16: the twelve or so boys that were unavailable for long

929
00:49:40,227 --> 00:49:43,467
Speaker 16: periods of time and twenty four were all available in

930
00:49:43,507 --> 00:49:48,747
Speaker 16: twenty five. But there's you know, as with every campaign,

931
00:49:49,867 --> 00:49:53,867
Speaker 16: you know, there's things that change, and you know, we've

932
00:49:53,907 --> 00:49:57,187
Speaker 16: got our teeth into the boys early and our preseason

933
00:49:57,307 --> 00:50:03,947
Speaker 16: was really successful. We felt and you know, David Heavily

934
00:50:04,027 --> 00:50:09,427
Speaker 16: and the leadership group Ethan, Cody Taylor and Will Jordan

935
00:50:09,507 --> 00:50:11,907
Speaker 16: of world class, you know, the four of them. The

936
00:50:12,027 --> 00:50:17,387
Speaker 16: way they drove the group and devolved responsibility and allowed

937
00:50:17,427 --> 00:50:20,707
Speaker 16: others to grow internally and take responsibility to certain aspects

938
00:50:20,827 --> 00:50:24,587
Speaker 16: was just a joy to watch. And you know, those

939
00:50:24,667 --> 00:50:29,867
Speaker 16: things all add three or four percents, you know, and

940
00:50:30,267 --> 00:50:33,547
Speaker 16: so in the back end obviously we had success.

941
00:50:34,387 --> 00:50:37,107
Speaker 2: So you squed next year will you likely be without

942
00:50:37,107 --> 00:50:39,347
Speaker 2: Scott Barrett as he takes a non playing sabbatical.

943
00:50:40,827 --> 00:50:44,667
Speaker 16: Yeah's highly likely that there'll be something you know around

944
00:50:44,747 --> 00:50:49,147
Speaker 16: his participation will be reduced marketly, and that's easy the

945
00:50:49,267 --> 00:50:52,547
Speaker 16: right man. He's been a wonderful contributor for a long

946
00:50:52,587 --> 00:50:54,987
Speaker 16: period of time and you know, it's a bit like

947
00:50:55,067 --> 00:50:59,547
Speaker 16: Cody Taylor did last year. First seven or eight rounds

948
00:51:00,587 --> 00:51:03,387
Speaker 16: just got their bodies into great shape and you know

949
00:51:03,987 --> 00:51:06,067
Speaker 16: you can understand the rest now behind that and we're

950
00:51:06,067 --> 00:51:08,387
Speaker 16: fully supportive. So that's probably highly.

951
00:51:08,347 --> 00:51:11,147
Speaker 2: Like in the year and the other ones. So definitely

952
00:51:11,227 --> 00:51:15,787
Speaker 2: leaving Levi, James O'Connor, Quentin Strange, Yoanni Muana who do

953
00:51:15,827 --> 00:51:18,547
Speaker 2: you feel like you've got good depth in their positions

954
00:51:18,627 --> 00:51:19,867
Speaker 2: to cover their departures.

955
00:51:21,947 --> 00:51:26,387
Speaker 16: Yeah. Yeah, Levi was a great contributor and you know

956
00:51:26,467 --> 00:51:29,107
Speaker 16: on the field he's a dynamic player. Will miss him,

957
00:51:29,227 --> 00:51:35,267
Speaker 16: but Leicester faire Uki's back and excited about having him

958
00:51:35,347 --> 00:51:36,827
Speaker 16: back in red and black.

959
00:51:36,867 --> 00:51:37,867
Speaker 9: You know, we know what he can do.

960
00:51:38,027 --> 00:51:42,507
Speaker 16: And again all black class player, international class.

961
00:51:45,467 --> 00:51:46,267
Speaker 12: And the you know.

962
00:51:46,347 --> 00:51:49,467
Speaker 16: Quentin's been a great contributor here and time was you

963
00:51:49,547 --> 00:51:52,427
Speaker 16: know for him to experience another environment, been here a

964
00:51:52,507 --> 00:51:57,627
Speaker 16: long time and contributed brilliantly for his for the time

965
00:51:57,667 --> 00:52:00,147
Speaker 16: he was here, and he'll be missed. But we do

966
00:52:00,267 --> 00:52:02,187
Speaker 16: have a stable a young man coming through in that

967
00:52:02,267 --> 00:52:06,267
Speaker 16: middle road that you know, we're very very happy with him,

968
00:52:06,347 --> 00:52:08,547
Speaker 16: excited about and their opportunity is going to come and

969
00:52:10,107 --> 00:52:13,027
Speaker 16: and they'll be hungry and you know, opportunity is about

970
00:52:13,067 --> 00:52:16,147
Speaker 16: to arride for them. So yeah, we we feel as

971
00:52:16,267 --> 00:52:19,907
Speaker 16: we've got that those positions covered. Yoani who was a

972
00:52:19,947 --> 00:52:24,707
Speaker 16: revelation and will be sadly missed for as not only

973
00:52:24,747 --> 00:52:29,347
Speaker 16: as on field but his off field connection pieces. But

974
00:52:29,427 --> 00:52:31,347
Speaker 16: we've got some young ones coming through. We've got two

975
00:52:31,467 --> 00:52:38,787
Speaker 16: under twenty hookers, eli Od and Ryan and Moa are

976
00:52:38,947 --> 00:52:41,867
Speaker 16: just outstanding young men and you know they're not far

977
00:52:42,027 --> 00:52:44,787
Speaker 16: off being ready. So we're just in the space just

978
00:52:44,867 --> 00:52:45,307
Speaker 16: on Leicester.

979
00:52:45,747 --> 00:52:47,307
Speaker 2: Were you playing in the back three or is he

980
00:52:47,387 --> 00:52:48,427
Speaker 2: an optional center for you?

981
00:52:49,667 --> 00:52:49,867
Speaker 5: Yeah?

982
00:52:50,027 --> 00:52:54,027
Speaker 16: Yeah, covers all those positions. Ye, without doubt are involved

983
00:52:54,267 --> 00:52:55,307
Speaker 16: mentioned them as a loose forward?

984
00:52:56,227 --> 00:52:58,787
Speaker 2: Well, he probably could. He's probably got the bill for him.

985
00:52:59,747 --> 00:53:01,987
Speaker 2: Are you involved in the conversations around getting Richie mu

986
00:53:01,987 --> 00:53:02,947
Speaker 2: Wonga back to New Zealand.

987
00:53:04,627 --> 00:53:09,347
Speaker 16: Yeah, I have been across all those years, so I.

988
00:53:09,387 --> 00:53:11,467
Speaker 2: Mean, obviously clearly you'd love to get him back to

989
00:53:11,507 --> 00:53:13,347
Speaker 2: the Crusaders, but you just have to wait and see

990
00:53:13,387 --> 00:53:15,907
Speaker 2: what plays out higher up than you. Is that how

991
00:53:15,947 --> 00:53:16,347
Speaker 2: it works?

992
00:53:17,307 --> 00:53:22,827
Speaker 16: Yeah, that's very much how it works. Yeah, Yeah, it's yeah,

993
00:53:22,867 --> 00:53:24,507
Speaker 16: it's one of those things. You've got another year up

994
00:53:24,507 --> 00:53:27,107
Speaker 16: in Japan. Obviously you've got nose, he's got his third

995
00:53:27,187 --> 00:53:34,507
Speaker 16: year away and you know the twenty seven campaign we'll

996
00:53:34,907 --> 00:53:40,747
Speaker 16: you know, potentially highlight an opportunity for someone like him

997
00:53:40,787 --> 00:53:41,227
Speaker 16: to come back.

998
00:53:41,707 --> 00:53:44,147
Speaker 2: Look forward to that and I guess you're probably theoretically

999
00:53:44,187 --> 00:53:45,507
Speaker 2: on holiday, are you, but a year a watch a

1000
00:53:45,547 --> 00:53:47,827
Speaker 2: bit of MPC you'd be watching as much as you Coul,

1001
00:53:47,827 --> 00:53:49,907
Speaker 2: wouldn't you. Yeah?

1002
00:53:49,987 --> 00:53:50,387
Speaker 11: I love it.

1003
00:53:50,667 --> 00:53:53,867
Speaker 16: Yeah, it's just exciting to see a few new faces

1004
00:53:53,947 --> 00:53:57,547
Speaker 16: and a few men that you know and are excited

1005
00:53:57,587 --> 00:53:59,627
Speaker 16: to contribute and really want to just get some more

1006
00:53:59,707 --> 00:54:00,507
Speaker 16: rugby under their.

1007
00:54:00,427 --> 00:54:02,387
Speaker 2: Belt, because you've probably got a few gaps, have you,

1008
00:54:02,467 --> 00:54:04,707
Speaker 2: well you take are you looking at recruiting out of

1009
00:54:04,747 --> 00:54:07,467
Speaker 2: the MPC for the Crusader in twenty six?

1010
00:54:08,347 --> 00:54:08,547
Speaker 17: Yeah?

1011
00:54:08,587 --> 00:54:10,587
Speaker 16: We've got a couple of spots, so we just want

1012
00:54:10,627 --> 00:54:13,467
Speaker 16: to be playing well. I'm sure like everybody, all the

1013
00:54:13,667 --> 00:54:17,467
Speaker 16: Super teams will be looking at their depth and you know,

1014
00:54:17,587 --> 00:54:20,587
Speaker 16: trying to spot the gym that they can attract to

1015
00:54:20,667 --> 00:54:22,947
Speaker 16: their environment, and we're no different.

1016
00:54:23,747 --> 00:54:26,707
Speaker 2: Congrats on the contract extension, Rob, look forward to catching

1017
00:54:26,747 --> 00:54:28,787
Speaker 2: up when the twenty twenty six season draws closer.

1018
00:54:29,067 --> 00:54:31,067
Speaker 16: Pleasure thanks to Tom No thanks for yours, Rob.

1019
00:54:31,147 --> 00:54:34,427
Speaker 2: Rob Penny Crusader's head coach again. There was some bit

1020
00:54:34,507 --> 00:54:37,827
Speaker 2: of conjecture about whether he would go round again, particularly

1021
00:54:37,867 --> 00:54:40,387
Speaker 2: straight after the final. I was down in christ Church

1022
00:54:40,507 --> 00:54:42,627
Speaker 2: and Rob Penny came out and to media after the

1023
00:54:42,707 --> 00:54:45,987
Speaker 2: final and was very noncommittal about what he would do next.

1024
00:54:46,067 --> 00:54:51,467
Speaker 2: But clearly he's a highly principled guy. He said no,

1025
00:54:51,667 --> 00:54:53,547
Speaker 2: we'll just wait and see how the review plays out.

1026
00:54:53,587 --> 00:54:55,627
Speaker 2: And what did he say there? Look, I I wasn't wanted.

1027
00:54:55,667 --> 00:54:58,347
Speaker 2: There's no way he would have stayed and that seems evident.

1028
00:54:58,507 --> 00:55:02,307
Speaker 2: But you know, Rob Penny would never be anywhere he

1029
00:55:02,467 --> 00:55:06,227
Speaker 2: wasn't wanted, would he? But when you win Super Rugby,

1030
00:55:06,427 --> 00:55:10,787
Speaker 2: particularly given the dreadful twenty twenty four that they had,

1031
00:55:11,507 --> 00:55:13,067
Speaker 2: when you bounce back and win it. I mean, the

1032
00:55:13,187 --> 00:55:16,387
Speaker 2: temptation to stay would be almost irresistible, wouldn't it. I

1033
00:55:16,467 --> 00:55:18,867
Speaker 2: can't imagine. But they say you should go out on top.

1034
00:55:18,947 --> 00:55:21,347
Speaker 2: And so if Rob Penny had decided, you know what,

1035
00:55:21,627 --> 00:55:25,307
Speaker 2: I've got other things to do with my weeks in

1036
00:55:25,387 --> 00:55:27,347
Speaker 2: the first half of a year than coach a rugby team,

1037
00:55:27,387 --> 00:55:30,187
Speaker 2: then everybody would say, hey, well your legacy is secure

1038
00:55:30,267 --> 00:55:33,227
Speaker 2: Rob if you go into the sunset. But yeah, more

1039
00:55:33,267 --> 00:55:35,467
Speaker 2: work to do, and it would be pretty hard to

1040
00:55:35,507 --> 00:55:37,987
Speaker 2: say goodbye to that playing group. They're not losing too many,

1041
00:55:38,027 --> 00:55:42,827
Speaker 2: as I say, next year, just the four or five players.

1042
00:55:43,227 --> 00:55:45,227
Speaker 2: The only thing about Scott Barrett not being there, and

1043
00:55:46,027 --> 00:55:47,907
Speaker 2: I'm not suggesting the same thing will happened again. But

1044
00:55:47,907 --> 00:55:50,747
Speaker 2: remember Cody Taylor had that non playing sabbatical last year

1045
00:55:51,147 --> 00:55:55,147
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty four, and his absence from the side

1046
00:55:55,507 --> 00:55:58,107
Speaker 2: was actually quite a big factor because we all know

1047
00:55:58,187 --> 00:56:01,107
Speaker 2: how influential he is inside a rugby team and not

1048
00:56:01,307 --> 00:56:04,187
Speaker 2: being there. I'm not saying what's the reason the Crusaders

1049
00:56:05,147 --> 00:56:07,547
Speaker 2: had such a poor twenty two four. There were lots

1050
00:56:07,547 --> 00:56:11,147
Speaker 2: of other factors at play too, including other player unavailability

1051
00:56:11,307 --> 00:56:15,587
Speaker 2: like Will Jordan for example. But I just wonder whether

1052
00:56:15,627 --> 00:56:18,507
Speaker 2: there's any trepidation about giving Scott Barrett the first eight

1053
00:56:18,547 --> 00:56:20,547
Speaker 2: to ten weeks of Super Rugby off next year, just

1054
00:56:20,667 --> 00:56:22,907
Speaker 2: in case the same thing happens again. Look, I'm not

1055
00:56:22,907 --> 00:56:25,187
Speaker 2: suggesting it will. And they've got pretty good lock and

1056
00:56:25,267 --> 00:56:26,947
Speaker 2: cover as well. And as I say, you look at

1057
00:56:26,987 --> 00:56:31,467
Speaker 2: that squad and you know not losing too many really.

1058
00:56:32,147 --> 00:56:35,387
Speaker 2: James O'Connor's gone, but they've got you know, pretty good

1059
00:56:36,307 --> 00:56:40,467
Speaker 2: first five cover, haven't they, with reverz Raehanna and Tahakemta

1060
00:56:40,707 --> 00:56:42,627
Speaker 2: two of the more exciting first fives going around. And

1061
00:56:42,707 --> 00:56:44,307
Speaker 2: James o connor came made me off the bench anyway

1062
00:56:44,387 --> 00:56:47,507
Speaker 2: last year, didn't he? Or this season I think they'll

1063
00:56:47,507 --> 00:56:50,947
Speaker 2: be Okay. It's twenty two past one. Just want to

1064
00:56:50,987 --> 00:56:55,147
Speaker 2: get your read on NPC. It started brilliantly, didn't it

1065
00:56:55,347 --> 00:56:59,427
Speaker 2: Thursday night whitcutt or Auckland. I was glued to that game.

1066
00:56:59,987 --> 00:57:02,387
Speaker 2: I'm very rarely glued to a game of rugby that

1067
00:57:02,427 --> 00:57:05,107
Speaker 2: doesn't involve one of the teams I support, But I

1068
00:57:05,227 --> 00:57:07,627
Speaker 2: was watching that game and yeah, it was played out

1069
00:57:07,667 --> 00:57:11,027
Speaker 2: at a fairly cavernous Eden Park. But Man thirty six

1070
00:57:11,107 --> 00:57:15,347
Speaker 2: thirty five Lema Sawpowanga off the bench into second five

1071
00:57:15,427 --> 00:57:19,187
Speaker 2: outside Aaron Cruden, Anton Lennet Brown running the water for

1072
00:57:19,267 --> 00:57:22,027
Speaker 2: Waycuttle and all of a sudden they scored twenty points.

1073
00:57:22,067 --> 00:57:23,787
Speaker 2: Sun answered at the end or whatever it was and

1074
00:57:24,587 --> 00:57:27,267
Speaker 2: beat Auckland thirty six thirty five. Oh, it was a

1075
00:57:27,387 --> 00:57:29,707
Speaker 2: terrific game of rugby. I didn't watch last night's game

1076
00:57:30,147 --> 00:57:32,827
Speaker 2: between one or two in North Harbor. I had eyes

1077
00:57:32,867 --> 00:57:34,947
Speaker 2: on the Warriors and other things. But by the sounds

1078
00:57:34,947 --> 00:57:36,907
Speaker 2: of it, that was a good contest too. And then

1079
00:57:36,947 --> 00:57:41,027
Speaker 2: you look at the week or the weekend ahead this

1080
00:57:41,187 --> 00:57:47,827
Speaker 2: afternoon Wellington v Canterbury, then Stag Day ten thousand plus

1081
00:57:47,947 --> 00:57:51,187
Speaker 2: expected at Rugby Park, and in Vicago for Stag Day

1082
00:57:51,787 --> 00:57:55,707
Speaker 2: Southland v Otago, one of the oldest rivalries in New

1083
00:57:55,827 --> 00:57:58,747
Speaker 2: Zealand provincial rugby. Then the shield goes on the line

1084
00:57:58,787 --> 00:58:02,907
Speaker 2: tonight when Tadahaki welcomed Northland to New Plymouth. And a

1085
00:58:02,987 --> 00:58:07,827
Speaker 2: couple of quite intriguing games tomorrow as well, including in

1086
00:58:07,947 --> 00:58:13,667
Speaker 2: Totonga the match between Bay of Plenty and Tasman, both

1087
00:58:13,747 --> 00:58:20,787
Speaker 2: of who look absolutely stacked, absolutely stacked. I had a look.

1088
00:58:20,907 --> 00:58:24,907
Speaker 2: Someone pointed out the Tasman back line to me here's

1089
00:58:24,947 --> 00:58:28,507
Speaker 2: the Tasman back line. Tomorrow fin Lake, Christie all Black

1090
00:58:28,547 --> 00:58:31,947
Speaker 2: at half back, William Harvilly is at first five, David

1091
00:58:32,027 --> 00:58:37,027
Speaker 2: Harvilly All Black at second five, Levi Almore at center,

1092
00:58:37,427 --> 00:58:41,307
Speaker 2: Macas Springer on one wing, Tamothy Tavatava Nahway All Black

1093
00:58:42,067 --> 00:58:45,107
Speaker 2: on the other, and Kyra and Tamoifela one of the

1094
00:58:45,147 --> 00:58:49,147
Speaker 2: big stars of Mauana Pacifica and now is the Chiefs.

1095
00:58:49,187 --> 00:58:55,867
Speaker 2: Isn't he at fallback? Mitchell Drummonds can't even get into

1096
00:58:55,907 --> 00:59:02,467
Speaker 2: the side. He's he can't even get into the site.

1097
00:59:02,547 --> 00:59:05,747
Speaker 2: He's reserved halfback. And then you look at Bay of

1098
00:59:05,787 --> 00:59:08,467
Speaker 2: Plenty and you think, actually they're pretty good too. Some

1099
00:59:08,627 --> 00:59:13,067
Speaker 2: of the players there rolling out Tomorrow pass or Tossi

1100
00:59:13,427 --> 00:59:16,867
Speaker 2: all Black front row, Kurt Eklund, Moory all Black's captain

1101
00:59:17,347 --> 00:59:23,347
Speaker 2: at hooker, Nita are Corey in the second row, Lucas Cashmore,

1102
00:59:23,387 --> 00:59:27,867
Speaker 2: who's been turning heads at first five, Leroy Carter's at center,

1103
00:59:27,947 --> 00:59:32,187
Speaker 2: em Moon in Nadawa All Black, Caleb Trusk Cole Forbes.

1104
00:59:32,387 --> 00:59:36,027
Speaker 2: That's a good team. That's a good team. Sorry, and

1105
00:59:36,147 --> 00:59:38,827
Speaker 2: didn't want to make a point to me then or not? No, no,

1106
00:59:39,187 --> 00:59:42,307
Speaker 2: no point to make as a least in that Marco

1107
00:59:42,427 --> 00:59:45,387
Speaker 2: side as well. No, well, he's not playing tomorrow, but

1108
00:59:45,547 --> 00:59:47,547
Speaker 2: he's he's in the squad. He is in the squad.

1109
00:59:47,587 --> 00:59:50,627
Speaker 2: He could have made the team either, was he. He

1110
00:59:50,787 --> 00:59:52,587
Speaker 2: surely wasn't available. I don't.

1111
00:59:52,787 --> 00:59:56,747
Speaker 18: I think he's injured. Surely that's another player they've got

1112
00:59:56,787 --> 01:00:02,467
Speaker 18: to fit in there, Piney, I'm sure that Lester Fko

1113
01:00:02,507 --> 01:00:06,267
Speaker 18: hasn't been left out on form. But then okay, we

1114
01:00:06,387 --> 01:00:07,867
Speaker 18: is he going to play? You're right because I just

1115
01:00:07,907 --> 01:00:08,627
Speaker 18: read out the back loan.

1116
01:00:08,667 --> 01:00:10,947
Speaker 2: Who's he going to fit in? Well? You mentioned to

1117
01:00:11,147 --> 01:00:13,547
Speaker 2: Rob Penny loose Ford's there you go, loose Ford. Well,

1118
01:00:13,587 --> 01:00:16,987
Speaker 2: they've got Ethan black Ethan Blackhead as well, and don't

1119
01:00:17,027 --> 01:00:20,467
Speaker 2: mentioned him Quentin Strange. It's a stack team, Tasman. That's

1120
01:00:20,467 --> 01:00:24,027
Speaker 2: your team, isn't it. Yes, Yeah, that's pretty good, pretty good.

1121
01:00:24,027 --> 01:00:26,867
Speaker 2: I don't favorite. I think their favorite to win the

1122
01:00:26,907 --> 01:00:29,387
Speaker 2: whole thing are mate have mentioned So I don't know

1123
01:00:29,507 --> 01:00:33,867
Speaker 2: what Eureck and Wellington can back up against that without doubt.

1124
01:00:33,907 --> 01:00:37,467
Speaker 2: But I'm very one eyed when it comes to Wellington,

1125
01:00:37,507 --> 01:00:38,987
Speaker 2: as you are when it comes to Tessaman. But you

1126
01:00:39,027 --> 01:00:42,067
Speaker 2: look at the Wellington team and it's actually a pretty

1127
01:00:42,107 --> 01:00:44,307
Speaker 2: good team. I've been through some of these other teams,

1128
01:00:44,307 --> 01:00:46,067
Speaker 2: so I can mention some of these Wellington players. Ruben

1129
01:00:46,107 --> 01:00:49,107
Speaker 2: Loves and the team this afternoon, Brad Shields as the captain,

1130
01:00:49,107 --> 01:00:53,707
Speaker 2: Peter Larkeye, Xavier new Meya, Julian Savia's back playing at

1131
01:00:53,747 --> 01:00:56,827
Speaker 2: second five this afternoon. Matt Proctor, brother of Billy one

1132
01:00:56,867 --> 01:01:00,107
Speaker 2: test all black. Matt Proctor's and the team. That's pretty

1133
01:01:00,107 --> 01:01:02,547
Speaker 2: good team, that's not bad.

1134
01:01:03,747 --> 01:01:06,627
Speaker 18: They would take most teams pretty close. I'd say, okay,

1135
01:01:06,667 --> 01:01:07,347
Speaker 18: even Tasin.

1136
01:01:08,147 --> 01:01:10,267
Speaker 2: Yeah, look Tasman. I had a look at the tab

1137
01:01:10,347 --> 01:01:13,307
Speaker 2: oft satur Day. I think think Tasman and Bay of

1138
01:01:13,387 --> 01:01:17,107
Speaker 2: Plenty with a top two from memory. I'm just going

1139
01:01:17,187 --> 01:01:19,987
Speaker 2: to check that while we're while we're chatting, rather than

1140
01:01:19,987 --> 01:01:23,387
Speaker 2: give out false information, I'm almost certain that that Tasman

1141
01:01:23,467 --> 01:01:27,907
Speaker 2: were favorites to win NPC, paying around three fifty I

1142
01:01:27,987 --> 01:01:31,267
Speaker 2: think the last time I checked. Where are we in PC?

1143
01:01:31,987 --> 01:01:33,707
Speaker 2: Let me have a look for you. Here we go

1144
01:01:33,867 --> 01:01:37,467
Speaker 2: Tasman three twenty five. They are Wellington and Canterbury. Actually

1145
01:01:37,587 --> 01:01:40,747
Speaker 2: my apologies are joint second favorite five dollars and Bay

1146
01:01:40,827 --> 01:01:45,547
Speaker 2: of plenty seven dollars rank outsiders Northland. I think that's

1147
01:01:45,547 --> 01:01:48,307
Speaker 2: a bit rude. They could win the shield to Night Northland.

1148
01:01:49,867 --> 01:01:51,467
Speaker 2: I'm not sure that they will win the Shields to Night,

1149
01:01:51,547 --> 01:01:54,907
Speaker 2: but they could. Piney MPC said Andy is a great

1150
01:01:54,947 --> 01:01:58,987
Speaker 2: product mainly because there's no TMO, the game flows and

1151
01:01:59,067 --> 01:02:02,427
Speaker 2: after a tried teams and fans can celebrate without the

1152
01:02:02,547 --> 01:02:06,267
Speaker 2: obligatory fifty replace trying to find a reason not to award.

1153
01:02:08,147 --> 01:02:15,067
Speaker 2: Sorry lad says this one. It's turbo time. I love

1154
01:02:15,187 --> 01:02:17,067
Speaker 2: man of we two rugby fans. I must say I

1155
01:02:17,187 --> 01:02:20,107
Speaker 2: love mother with two rugby fans. And the passion with

1156
01:02:20,267 --> 01:02:23,787
Speaker 2: which they I was gonna say, tolerate their rugby team.

1157
01:02:23,787 --> 01:02:26,147
Speaker 2: That's a bit rude. The passion with which they follow

1158
01:02:26,227 --> 01:02:28,747
Speaker 2: their rugby team. And good on them last night. They

1159
01:02:28,787 --> 01:02:31,027
Speaker 2: had a big crowd there at well not a big crowd,

1160
01:02:31,067 --> 01:02:34,067
Speaker 2: but a good crowd at Central Energy Trust Arena, from

1161
01:02:34,107 --> 01:02:37,827
Speaker 2: what I can understand, to watch their team beat North Harbor.

1162
01:02:37,907 --> 01:02:39,747
Speaker 2: And look at the matter with two teams, so you forget,

1163
01:02:40,347 --> 01:02:43,067
Speaker 2: you forget who plays in these teams because you're so

1164
01:02:43,227 --> 01:02:45,587
Speaker 2: used to super rugby and then you go, that's right,

1165
01:02:45,667 --> 01:02:47,467
Speaker 2: that guy plays for that such and such a team.

1166
01:02:48,467 --> 01:02:51,667
Speaker 2: Two listen to muddle were Two's back line Yordy ville

1167
01:02:51,707 --> 01:02:54,987
Speaker 2: Yrne who was a hurricane was at half back. Brett

1168
01:02:55,027 --> 01:02:58,507
Speaker 2: Cameron another hurricane. First five and then they're in the

1169
01:02:58,747 --> 01:03:02,427
Speaker 2: twelve Jersey Nanni La Marpy Brandon. You're say off the

1170
01:03:02,427 --> 01:03:05,347
Speaker 2: back of their scrum. T K Howden's in that team

1171
01:03:05,547 --> 01:03:10,227
Speaker 2: as well. Good on them, aye, mother, we'd two good

1172
01:03:10,307 --> 01:03:10,547
Speaker 2: on them.

1173
01:03:12,107 --> 01:03:12,227
Speaker 9: One.

1174
01:03:12,787 --> 01:03:14,347
Speaker 2: Let's take a break. We'll get you out to pottidor

1175
01:03:14,387 --> 01:03:16,547
Speaker 2: actually at to Jerry Collins Stadium where it's going to

1176
01:03:16,587 --> 01:03:20,427
Speaker 2: be Wellington v. Canterbury in about forty minutes or so.

1177
01:03:21,507 --> 01:03:23,707
Speaker 2: Tony Giles is the CEO of Wellington RUGBI, can have

1178
01:03:23,747 --> 01:03:26,147
Speaker 2: a chat to him in just a minute. Farmers don't

1179
01:03:26,187 --> 01:03:29,267
Speaker 2: need another thing to do. That's what makes this great

1180
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Speaker 2: Prolojects a regular part of the routine. Now it's doing

1181
01:03:33,307 --> 01:03:37,547
Speaker 2: extra good behind the scenes. Proloject B twelve has always

1182
01:03:37,587 --> 01:03:41,027
Speaker 2: been a reliable go to for treatment and control of

1183
01:03:41,227 --> 01:03:44,787
Speaker 2: cobalt deficiency at of critical time such as carving, mating

1184
01:03:44,907 --> 01:03:47,627
Speaker 2: or lambing. Keeping your animals healthy and thriving as what

1185
01:03:47,827 --> 01:03:52,507
Speaker 2: matters most Now, Proloject is pulling double duty this winter.

1186
01:03:52,707 --> 01:03:57,187
Speaker 2: For every pack of Proleject sold to participating vet clinics,

1187
01:03:57,427 --> 01:04:01,267
Speaker 2: Elanco is donating to meet the need, a charity that

1188
01:04:01,347 --> 01:04:04,787
Speaker 2: helps get quality food from farms to food banks. One pack,

1189
01:04:04,987 --> 01:04:07,907
Speaker 2: two meals. It's that simple. By caring for your stock,

1190
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Speaker 2: you're automatically supporting families in need, a cause that feels right.

1191
01:04:12,707 --> 01:04:17,067
Speaker 2: Il Aanko enriching lives on farm and now in our communities.

1192
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Speaker 2: Prolojet is registered pursuing to the ACVMAC nineteen ninety seven

1193
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1194
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Speaker 2: six five three six. Always read and follow the label instructions.

1195
01:04:28,907 --> 01:04:30,787
Speaker 16: It's more than just a game.

1196
01:04:31,107 --> 01:04:34,947
Speaker 1: Weekends for it with Jason Hin and G. J. Gardnohomes,

1197
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1198
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Speaker 2: MB News talks every twenty seven. Away from two. Wellington

1199
01:04:41,067 --> 01:04:43,547
Speaker 2: will start the defense of their NPC title this afternoon

1200
01:04:43,587 --> 01:04:46,587
Speaker 2: against Canterbury at Jerry Collins Stadium and Pottydo a kick

1201
01:04:46,627 --> 01:04:49,467
Speaker 2: off at five past two. Pretty handy Wellington's side bunch

1202
01:04:49,507 --> 01:04:52,027
Speaker 2: of super rugby players, as I said before, Reuben Love,

1203
01:04:52,227 --> 01:04:56,147
Speaker 2: Julian Savier, Brad Shields, Peter Lakeye, Kyle Preston, Zavi Numa

1204
01:04:56,227 --> 01:04:58,907
Speaker 2: and others. But for Canterbury they can call on freshly

1205
01:04:58,987 --> 01:05:01,307
Speaker 2: capped all blacks hooker Brody McAllister, as well as the

1206
01:05:01,427 --> 01:05:04,707
Speaker 2: likes of Cullen Grace, Tom Christy, braden enaw and Chaffee

1207
01:05:04,747 --> 01:05:06,907
Speaker 2: Hockey who will were all part of the for rugby

1208
01:05:07,227 --> 01:05:10,667
Speaker 2: winning side not that long ago. Wellington Rugby CEO Tony

1209
01:05:10,787 --> 01:05:13,107
Speaker 2: Giles is with us, give us a check on weather

1210
01:05:13,227 --> 01:05:17,307
Speaker 2: and conditions. First of all, Tony and pottydoer today Piney.

1211
01:05:17,067 --> 01:05:17,627
Speaker 11: How are you mate?

1212
01:05:17,627 --> 01:05:21,107
Speaker 5: Listen, we're out here in Pottydoor Park, Jerry conin stadium,

1213
01:05:21,187 --> 01:05:24,507
Speaker 5: basket and glorious blue sunshine pointing here in the club

1214
01:05:24,627 --> 01:05:27,667
Speaker 5: met at the South Pacific Peetown. Here we are in

1215
01:05:27,787 --> 01:05:29,747
Speaker 5: PC's upon us of the weather is glorious.

1216
01:05:29,787 --> 01:05:29,987
Speaker 11: Mate.

1217
01:05:30,387 --> 01:05:33,347
Speaker 2: Oh, that is a wonderful, wonderful introduction in fellow, I

1218
01:05:33,347 --> 01:05:35,427
Speaker 2: feel like we should be swapping positions. You should be

1219
01:05:35,467 --> 01:05:37,587
Speaker 2: sitting here and I can be out there. But as

1220
01:05:37,667 --> 01:05:40,067
Speaker 2: you are out there, just on the decision to take

1221
01:05:40,107 --> 01:05:43,067
Speaker 2: your home matches to Pottydoor, was that a relatively straightforward one?

1222
01:05:44,227 --> 01:05:44,387
Speaker 16: Yeah?

1223
01:05:44,387 --> 01:05:45,187
Speaker 5: It wasn't there mate.

1224
01:05:45,227 --> 01:05:45,467
Speaker 11: Listen.

1225
01:05:45,547 --> 01:05:48,787
Speaker 5: We've had conversations obviously with the Wellington Regients Stadium, Trust

1226
01:05:49,107 --> 01:05:53,547
Speaker 5: Sky Stadium. We've had conversations around Wellington, n Z. He said,

1227
01:05:53,547 --> 01:05:57,027
Speaker 5: in rugby to see how we can benefit and reconnect

1228
01:05:57,067 --> 01:06:00,187
Speaker 5: with our community in a meaningful and different way. Sky

1229
01:06:00,307 --> 01:06:02,587
Speaker 5: Stadium is a wonderful venue and we will still be

1230
01:06:02,707 --> 01:06:06,467
Speaker 5: going back there still should we be fortunate enough to

1231
01:06:06,507 --> 01:06:09,707
Speaker 5: be hosting playoffs. But it was really important to be

1232
01:06:09,827 --> 01:06:13,147
Speaker 5: connecting with our community at a community park and allowing

1233
01:06:13,227 --> 01:06:16,187
Speaker 5: our players and our game to be accessible to fans.

1234
01:06:16,667 --> 01:06:16,867
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1235
01:06:17,227 --> 01:06:20,627
Speaker 2: Do you think that's a view held widely across your

1236
01:06:21,187 --> 01:06:23,347
Speaker 2: provincial union counterparts as well?

1237
01:06:24,467 --> 01:06:28,787
Speaker 5: Absolutely is afternoon footy at community venues. We went down

1238
01:06:28,867 --> 01:06:31,627
Speaker 5: last year to Canterbury and played a wonderful game at

1239
01:06:31,707 --> 01:06:35,187
Speaker 5: Rangiura Domain, was incredible. We know by a Plenty play

1240
01:06:35,227 --> 01:06:37,547
Speaker 5: all their games a toad on the domain. We know

1241
01:06:37,707 --> 01:06:40,467
Speaker 5: Auckland played a game at Mount Alvin Grammar. We're all

1242
01:06:40,547 --> 01:06:42,987
Speaker 5: trying to connect to re engage fans back to this

1243
01:06:43,147 --> 01:06:46,907
Speaker 5: wonderful game of rugby that provides incredible pathways for young

1244
01:06:46,987 --> 01:06:49,267
Speaker 5: men and women in the SPC as well.

1245
01:06:49,987 --> 01:06:52,667
Speaker 2: And just on the NPC. I mean it started brilliantly.

1246
01:06:52,747 --> 01:06:54,907
Speaker 2: I mean I mentioned before Auckland White Cutter was a

1247
01:06:54,947 --> 01:06:57,827
Speaker 2: great game on Thursday night. Last night, one of W

1248
01:06:57,947 --> 01:07:00,507
Speaker 2: two in North Harbor got into one another some big

1249
01:07:00,587 --> 01:07:03,827
Speaker 2: games across this weekend. There's always this conversation about the

1250
01:07:03,907 --> 01:07:06,227
Speaker 2: relevance of NPC, but I mean, I know you're a

1251
01:07:06,667 --> 01:07:08,987
Speaker 2: a big fan of it. I think there's certainly a

1252
01:07:09,027 --> 01:07:11,347
Speaker 2: lot still to be said for provincial rugby, isn't there.

1253
01:07:12,267 --> 01:07:14,507
Speaker 5: It's an incredible product. I mean, it's the jewl in

1254
01:07:14,547 --> 01:07:16,187
Speaker 5: the crown for us here in his Zellan because it

1255
01:07:16,267 --> 01:07:19,427
Speaker 5: provides not only a calendar window of rugby throughout the

1256
01:07:19,467 --> 01:07:22,507
Speaker 5: whole thing franchise in PC into the All Blacks, but

1257
01:07:22,587 --> 01:07:27,547
Speaker 5: it also provides an opportunity for wonderful players who may

1258
01:07:27,587 --> 01:07:31,107
Speaker 5: have worn the black jersey working alongside something young, up

1259
01:07:31,147 --> 01:07:34,147
Speaker 5: and coming talent and learning. So we've seen that across

1260
01:07:34,267 --> 01:07:37,627
Speaker 5: Manawatu last night against North Harbor. We saw that in

1261
01:07:37,707 --> 01:07:40,027
Speaker 5: Auckland with young Rico Simpson coming on and playing a

1262
01:07:40,067 --> 01:07:43,787
Speaker 5: scala role as well. It's a wonderful product and the

1263
01:07:43,867 --> 01:07:46,667
Speaker 5: fans are wilding in through the gate here and obviously

1264
01:07:46,747 --> 01:07:49,187
Speaker 5: it's still resonating really really well and.

1265
01:07:49,667 --> 01:07:52,067
Speaker 2: Some integration of players back in. A bunch of All

1266
01:07:52,067 --> 01:07:53,947
Speaker 2: Blacks have been released to play for their provinces this

1267
01:07:54,067 --> 01:07:56,427
Speaker 2: weekend and I know they've and Jordan in fact duplas.

1268
01:07:56,627 --> 01:07:59,227
Speaker 2: Kalifie hasn't been released back, but I understand he was

1269
01:07:59,267 --> 01:08:01,147
Speaker 2: still at training during the week with the Lions boys.

1270
01:08:01,667 --> 01:08:04,387
Speaker 5: He's been training every day. Fine, that's just a medal

1271
01:08:04,427 --> 01:08:06,187
Speaker 5: of the man. He likes to be a part of it,

1272
01:08:06,507 --> 01:08:08,507
Speaker 5: likes to support the program off the field as much

1273
01:08:08,507 --> 01:08:11,427
Speaker 5: as he can. But yeah, we've got Reuben starting today.

1274
01:08:11,467 --> 01:08:14,387
Speaker 5: We've got Peter Larkeye in the number seven shirt shirt

1275
01:08:14,427 --> 01:08:16,627
Speaker 5: that he wore for the All Blacks last year, so

1276
01:08:16,707 --> 01:08:19,547
Speaker 5: we're excited by that. Of course, ab and Emir starting

1277
01:08:19,587 --> 01:08:21,427
Speaker 5: in the front row as well, and we welcome back

1278
01:08:21,707 --> 01:08:25,387
Speaker 5: the likes of a kid at Emir who is the

1279
01:08:25,467 --> 01:08:28,667
Speaker 5: only non starting franchise player who's just come back from

1280
01:08:28,747 --> 01:08:32,507
Speaker 5: Japan after having a professional year there with Caboda and

1281
01:08:32,667 --> 01:08:33,427
Speaker 5: Wellington Rugby.

1282
01:08:33,467 --> 01:08:35,947
Speaker 2: In fact, all of the provincial unions oversee the game

1283
01:08:36,267 --> 01:08:39,827
Speaker 2: in their patch. How important a part of that is

1284
01:08:39,907 --> 01:08:43,707
Speaker 2: the is the NPC side and the FBC side as well.

1285
01:08:44,707 --> 01:08:47,027
Speaker 5: Yeah, listen, it's a really important part of our DNA

1286
01:08:47,107 --> 01:08:49,867
Speaker 5: and Wellington. I mean we have nine and a half

1287
01:08:49,947 --> 01:08:52,827
Speaker 5: thousand members throughout the Willington province. We've got eighteen clubs

1288
01:08:53,427 --> 01:08:55,467
Speaker 5: and it's the opportunity to provide a pathway, whether it

1289
01:08:55,667 --> 01:08:59,187
Speaker 5: be through the Wellington Rugby Academy through the NPC team.

1290
01:08:59,227 --> 01:09:01,707
Speaker 5: But young men and women have aspirational dreams to play

1291
01:09:01,747 --> 01:09:04,787
Speaker 5: this game. And you know NPC is a really really

1292
01:09:04,827 --> 01:09:08,427
Speaker 5: important part of it and competitive nature of it. Two

1293
01:09:08,587 --> 01:09:12,467
Speaker 5: wonderful sides here. You've got the Wonington Lions, last year's

1294
01:09:12,747 --> 01:09:17,427
Speaker 5: NPC defending champions against Canterbury today without a doubt, the

1295
01:09:17,707 --> 01:09:22,107
Speaker 5: strongest performing provincial rugby team of this millennium. So it's incredible.

1296
01:09:22,987 --> 01:09:25,867
Speaker 2: I can almost smell the sausages cooking out there, Toney.

1297
01:09:25,867 --> 01:09:27,947
Speaker 2: Presumably there's some food on offer out.

1298
01:09:27,827 --> 01:09:31,547
Speaker 5: There, ironically, Finey, as you know me, well, I'm standing

1299
01:09:31,667 --> 01:09:34,867
Speaker 5: right in front of the wonderful hot chips, wraps and

1300
01:09:34,987 --> 01:09:39,307
Speaker 5: loaded fry caravan. We have Baxter's, we have all coffee carts,

1301
01:09:39,587 --> 01:09:42,227
Speaker 5: you name it. It's here at Pottidoo Park. As I say, mate,

1302
01:09:42,227 --> 01:09:44,347
Speaker 5: we're putting it on Club met of the South Pacific.

1303
01:09:44,467 --> 01:09:47,587
Speaker 5: Everybody should come out and don't forget mate, kids under

1304
01:09:47,627 --> 01:09:48,707
Speaker 5: fifteen are free.

1305
01:09:49,307 --> 01:09:51,467
Speaker 2: Love it, Tony. Good to chat to you, mate, can't

1306
01:09:51,827 --> 01:09:54,387
Speaker 2: help but be drawn up in your enthusiasm. Made all

1307
01:09:54,387 --> 01:09:56,867
Speaker 2: the best to your Wellington side. This afternoon. Thanks for

1308
01:09:56,907 --> 01:09:57,227
Speaker 2: the chat.

1309
01:09:57,947 --> 01:09:59,747
Speaker 5: Appreciate you mate, Cheers all the best.

1310
01:09:59,787 --> 01:10:03,667
Speaker 2: Tony Joels, CEO of Wellington Rugby. Yeah, I think he's

1311
01:10:05,667 --> 01:10:08,347
Speaker 2: a great and the of the kind of person that

1312
01:10:08,467 --> 01:10:13,347
Speaker 2: is running provincial rugby. Utter enthusiast, absolute enthusiast for the

1313
01:10:13,387 --> 01:10:17,587
Speaker 2: game at grassroots level. You're swept up in the enthusiasm

1314
01:10:17,627 --> 01:10:19,987
Speaker 2: of the man. Yes, so this afternoon the five past

1315
01:10:20,027 --> 01:10:23,267
Speaker 2: two commentary incidentally on gold Sport and iHeartRadio if you'd

1316
01:10:23,307 --> 01:10:25,667
Speaker 2: like to take in commentary of that game. In fact,

1317
01:10:25,707 --> 01:10:29,227
Speaker 2: all in PC games are on gold Sport and iHeartRadio,

1318
01:10:29,747 --> 01:10:31,667
Speaker 2: or just stay with us and we'll keep you updated.

1319
01:10:32,107 --> 01:10:34,787
Speaker 2: After two o'clock a bunch of text through on NPC.

1320
01:10:35,707 --> 01:10:38,227
Speaker 2: Clint says, great move from Wellington Rugby. Full stop. It

1321
01:10:38,347 --> 01:10:40,587
Speaker 2: was a but bleak seeing that final played in an

1322
01:10:40,627 --> 01:10:43,467
Speaker 2: empty sky Stadium last year. I hope more unions take

1323
01:10:43,507 --> 01:10:46,347
Speaker 2: their lead and do the same. It will definitely invigorate

1324
01:10:46,427 --> 01:10:49,347
Speaker 2: the game at grassroots level. Thanks Clint, muss Is Ponty.

1325
01:10:49,347 --> 01:10:52,027
Speaker 2: You should do a small segment on who to watch

1326
01:10:52,107 --> 01:10:55,747
Speaker 2: out for to be selected for the next Super Rugby season.

1327
01:10:55,827 --> 01:10:59,427
Speaker 2: I'll start, says mus Cooper Flanders for the Magpies. This

1328
01:10:59,587 --> 01:11:03,107
Speaker 2: young man is an absolute talent, presumably Devin Flander's brother.

1329
01:11:04,827 --> 01:11:08,547
Speaker 2: And look, I'll take all suggestions of who to look

1330
01:11:08,587 --> 01:11:11,867
Speaker 2: out for in the MPC, because that's the other thing

1331
01:11:11,907 --> 01:11:16,307
Speaker 2: about it. NPC is the pathway to super rugby. That's

1332
01:11:16,387 --> 01:11:20,187
Speaker 2: how you know, almost without exception, players find themselves and

1333
01:11:20,267 --> 01:11:23,147
Speaker 2: super rugby teams by playing well for their provinces. And

1334
01:11:23,227 --> 01:11:25,387
Speaker 2: there will be players that you and I have never

1335
01:11:25,467 --> 01:11:28,227
Speaker 2: heard of who will be super rugby players in twenty

1336
01:11:28,267 --> 01:11:31,507
Speaker 2: twenty six, simply by virtue of the way they play

1337
01:11:31,627 --> 01:11:35,347
Speaker 2: over the next ten rounds of NPC rugby. Yeah, fireman,

1338
01:11:35,427 --> 01:11:37,107
Speaker 2: if there's a player that we need to keep an

1339
01:11:37,107 --> 01:11:39,347
Speaker 2: eye on or write down Cooper Flanders, mus I'll write

1340
01:11:39,347 --> 01:11:41,467
Speaker 2: down his name. But if you've got somebody who we

1341
01:11:41,587 --> 01:11:43,347
Speaker 2: need to keep an eye on across the next ten weeks.

1342
01:11:43,667 --> 01:11:47,147
Speaker 2: Texted in nine two nine to two, one of our

1343
01:11:47,227 --> 01:11:51,147
Speaker 2: siting commissioners has texted saying, Bonnie, there are tmos at MPC.

1344
01:11:51,587 --> 01:11:53,987
Speaker 2: All right, Well, that's good to know. And I kind

1345
01:11:53,987 --> 01:11:57,187
Speaker 2: of thought there was, because I think was the decision

1346
01:11:57,187 --> 01:11:58,947
Speaker 2: the other night, as I was reading that text out before,

1347
01:11:58,947 --> 01:12:00,387
Speaker 2: I was thinking to myself, did I see a decision

1348
01:12:00,387 --> 01:12:02,987
Speaker 2: the other night by the TMO. Anyway, there are tmos

1349
01:12:03,027 --> 01:12:03,587
Speaker 2: at MPC.

1350
01:12:04,187 --> 01:12:04,627
Speaker 16: Thank you for that.

1351
01:12:04,747 --> 01:12:08,347
Speaker 2: Don't forget about those pesky mag Piney says Macat. They're

1352
01:12:08,387 --> 01:12:12,267
Speaker 2: looking good as well. Look, I would never discount the

1353
01:12:12,347 --> 01:12:17,987
Speaker 2: Hawk's Bay Magpies. Always a good team. And we mentioned

1354
01:12:18,067 --> 01:12:20,307
Speaker 2: Cooper Flanders. Devon Flanders is in that team as well.

1355
01:12:20,427 --> 01:12:27,427
Speaker 2: Miracle fighter Lungey is in that team. Who else We've

1356
01:12:27,427 --> 01:12:29,787
Speaker 2: got Harry Godfrey of course, one of the rising stars,

1357
01:12:29,827 --> 01:12:35,707
Speaker 2: and the ten jumper Zarn Sullivan at fullback, Tom Parsons

1358
01:12:35,787 --> 01:12:38,987
Speaker 2: in the second row. Jacob Devery he played with the Hurricanes,

1359
01:12:39,027 --> 01:12:42,227
Speaker 2: as did Pody Lakety, Stones, Hawks, bait yep. Good team,

1360
01:12:42,907 --> 01:12:45,187
Speaker 2: good team always there or there about four fuckatava on

1361
01:12:45,267 --> 01:12:49,627
Speaker 2: the bench. Yeah, good team, Thank you very much indeed

1362
01:12:49,747 --> 01:12:52,587
Speaker 2: for that, Mecca, Gary says Piney. Good luck to you

1363
01:12:52,587 --> 01:12:58,187
Speaker 2: today against Canterbury. Your backlines like Golden Oldies. Guard of

1364
01:12:58,267 --> 01:13:01,507
Speaker 2: bashef Tavia Proctor. Thanks Gary. I saw Jackson Guard of

1365
01:13:01,547 --> 01:13:03,947
Speaker 2: Baship yesterday. Actually he was getting coffee at the same

1366
01:13:04,027 --> 01:13:06,667
Speaker 2: coffee cart that I did, and we had a bit

1367
01:13:06,667 --> 01:13:09,227
Speaker 2: of a yard. He's looking a good nick. He's looking

1368
01:13:09,307 --> 01:13:13,307
Speaker 2: a good nick. Seeing through your players to watch, and

1369
01:13:13,427 --> 01:13:16,467
Speaker 2: we'll give them a bit of love today and across

1370
01:13:16,787 --> 01:13:20,067
Speaker 2: the season eighteen to two. When we come back across

1371
01:13:20,107 --> 01:13:21,507
Speaker 2: the Tasman, we'll go Adam Peacock.

1372
01:13:21,547 --> 01:13:25,347
Speaker 1: After this the tough Questions off the turf weekends for

1373
01:13:25,507 --> 01:13:29,427
Speaker 1: It with Jason Pine and GJ. Garbnerholmes, New Zealand's most

1374
01:13:29,467 --> 01:13:30,627
Speaker 1: trusted home builder.

1375
01:13:30,467 --> 01:13:35,267
Speaker 2: News Talks, News Talks. He'll be one forty four. Lookout

1376
01:13:35,307 --> 01:13:39,627
Speaker 2: for Patrick mccurran from White Cuttle, says Ross. Thanks Ross,

1377
01:13:40,107 --> 01:13:43,707
Speaker 2: Kensy's pony. I'll put Xavier Titto Harris in your list.

1378
01:13:43,787 --> 01:13:45,747
Speaker 2: He looks like a good replacement for Mark t Lea

1379
01:13:45,907 --> 01:13:49,227
Speaker 2: at the Blues. Meantime, the Dragons to beat the Raiders. Well,

1380
01:13:49,627 --> 01:13:52,987
Speaker 2: I'm sure they're not favorite, Ken, but thanks for thanks

1381
01:13:53,027 --> 01:13:54,747
Speaker 2: for the text, and Gary says Pony. Watch out for

1382
01:13:54,787 --> 01:14:01,387
Speaker 2: this young man, Kitlee Watson for Taranaki, a prop one

1383
01:14:01,467 --> 01:14:05,307
Speaker 2: hundred and forty kegs, former judo champion, twenty four years old.

1384
01:14:05,307 --> 01:14:07,787
Speaker 2: It's only been playing rugby for five years. Thanks Gary,

1385
01:14:07,867 --> 01:14:10,827
Speaker 2: I'll keep an eye on him as well. Seen through

1386
01:14:10,907 --> 01:14:15,467
Speaker 2: your players to watch in the MPC. Australian correspondent Adam

1387
01:14:15,507 --> 01:14:18,067
Speaker 2: pea Cox with us as usual on a Saturday, Adam,

1388
01:14:18,067 --> 01:14:20,787
Speaker 2: thanks for your time. Our third Test tonight Wallaby's and

1389
01:14:20,827 --> 01:14:23,427
Speaker 2: British and Irish Lions in Sydney. The series has gone

1390
01:14:23,467 --> 01:14:27,467
Speaker 2: obviously with the Lions winning Tests two last weekend in Melbourne.

1391
01:14:27,667 --> 01:14:31,307
Speaker 2: What has the fallout been from that, the controversy of

1392
01:14:31,387 --> 01:14:35,267
Speaker 2: the of the you know, the late passages of play

1393
01:14:35,707 --> 01:14:36,827
Speaker 2: in that match in Melbourne.

1394
01:14:37,627 --> 01:14:38,027
Speaker 11: Yeah, it was.

1395
01:14:38,987 --> 01:14:42,307
Speaker 19: It was pretty robust straight away that a lot of

1396
01:14:42,347 --> 01:14:46,147
Speaker 19: people saying it's taken on the phone of how good

1397
01:14:46,187 --> 01:14:48,787
Speaker 19: would it be instead of blowing up about the decision

1398
01:14:48,827 --> 01:14:50,947
Speaker 19: and saying Australia were ripped off. And there are a

1399
01:14:50,987 --> 01:14:54,147
Speaker 19: few people who still think that, but it's more about

1400
01:14:54,267 --> 01:14:56,187
Speaker 19: how good would it have been if this was a decide.

1401
01:14:56,187 --> 01:14:57,827
Speaker 19: It's still going to be a great occasion. Tonight in

1402
01:14:57,907 --> 01:15:00,427
Speaker 19: Sydney has packed out and I live in Sydney.

1403
01:15:00,467 --> 01:15:01,227
Speaker 5: I see.

1404
01:15:02,907 --> 01:15:05,947
Speaker 19: People cladn't read all week just walking the street to

1405
01:15:05,947 --> 01:15:09,267
Speaker 19: Sydney enjoying themselves, even though it's been absolutely hosing.

1406
01:15:08,987 --> 01:15:09,587
Speaker 11: Down all week.

1407
01:15:09,667 --> 01:15:13,347
Speaker 19: But yeah, it's it feels like a bit of a

1408
01:15:13,387 --> 01:15:16,867
Speaker 19: missed opportunity for something epic, even though probably looking at

1409
01:15:16,907 --> 01:15:18,307
Speaker 19: that decision it was a fifty to fifty.

1410
01:15:18,627 --> 01:15:20,067
Speaker 2: There was a fifty to fifty, and there's been a

1411
01:15:20,107 --> 01:15:22,547
Speaker 2: lot of fallout and judgment during the week, saying Loo

1412
01:15:22,667 --> 01:15:26,427
Speaker 2: color Tazano, he's obviously feeling the effects of the of

1413
01:15:26,507 --> 01:15:28,707
Speaker 2: the attack or but also feeling the effects of some

1414
01:15:29,267 --> 01:15:32,467
Speaker 2: online abuse as well. He's been sort of, I guess

1415
01:15:32,547 --> 01:15:34,107
Speaker 2: taken out of the spotlight. Do you think this is

1416
01:15:34,147 --> 01:15:34,627
Speaker 2: the right call?

1417
01:15:35,507 --> 01:15:38,627
Speaker 19: Yeah, well, it's born out of the fact that people

1418
01:15:39,547 --> 01:15:42,347
Speaker 19: and knowledgeable people without the game of rugby said he

1419
01:15:42,427 --> 01:15:46,107
Speaker 19: was diving so and that was off the basis of

1420
01:15:46,187 --> 01:15:49,427
Speaker 19: their own bias. It wasn't about oh, well, he actually

1421
01:15:49,467 --> 01:15:53,107
Speaker 19: could have been hurt, like it was a fairly full

1422
01:15:53,187 --> 01:15:56,027
Speaker 19: on attack on the back of his neck, and whether

1423
01:15:56,107 --> 01:15:57,427
Speaker 19: or not he should have been there, or whether or

1424
01:15:57,467 --> 01:15:59,027
Speaker 19: not that he was there at the same time, whatever,

1425
01:15:59,387 --> 01:16:00,627
Speaker 19: that's that's not the point.

1426
01:16:00,707 --> 01:16:03,347
Speaker 10: It was, Yeah, he got hit and it hurt.

1427
01:16:03,707 --> 01:16:07,707
Speaker 19: So I like the whole thing. And I think those

1428
01:16:07,747 --> 01:16:09,947
Speaker 19: people who had to go at him for doing a

1429
01:16:09,987 --> 01:16:12,187
Speaker 19: blatant dive and trying to milk a penalty and all

1430
01:16:12,227 --> 01:16:16,547
Speaker 19: of those things should maybe reconsider having such a forthright opinion,

1431
01:16:16,627 --> 01:16:18,627
Speaker 19: because that's the fall that people hop on and then

1432
01:16:18,667 --> 01:16:21,027
Speaker 19: the guy ends up copying abuse for what I mean,

1433
01:16:21,987 --> 01:16:25,387
Speaker 19: let's all calm down. So yeah, it's unfortunate.

1434
01:16:24,987 --> 01:16:25,827
Speaker 11: PostScript to it all.

1435
01:16:26,587 --> 01:16:29,387
Speaker 19: But yeah we still haven't quite got over it, but

1436
01:16:29,587 --> 01:16:32,307
Speaker 19: maybe tonight we will get over it if the lot

1437
01:16:32,347 --> 01:16:34,787
Speaker 19: of his can find a way to win and for a.

1438
01:16:34,827 --> 01:16:39,107
Speaker 2: Memorable occasion in Sydney tonight. The NRL reaching its business end.

1439
01:16:39,387 --> 01:16:41,827
Speaker 2: The Warriors losing to the Dolphins right at the end

1440
01:16:41,907 --> 01:16:45,027
Speaker 2: last night, clinging on in fourth spot, but they've lost

1441
01:16:45,067 --> 01:16:47,187
Speaker 2: four of their last six. Now do you think the

1442
01:16:47,267 --> 01:16:49,667
Speaker 2: chasing pack is going to swallow the Warriors up?

1443
01:16:50,427 --> 01:16:53,747
Speaker 19: Yeah, Penrith are the ones have hit a bit of

1444
01:16:53,867 --> 01:16:57,627
Speaker 19: rhythm and they've got Sorry, there's the cockatoos that we

1445
01:16:57,707 --> 01:16:59,387
Speaker 19: have here in Australia and they're making a bit of noise.

1446
01:16:59,387 --> 01:17:01,787
Speaker 19: They want to be on the radio as well. But yeah,

1447
01:17:01,827 --> 01:17:05,307
Speaker 19: that the Panthers have got their you know what together

1448
01:17:05,587 --> 01:17:08,827
Speaker 19: And at the same time, one of these teams was

1449
01:17:08,907 --> 01:17:10,747
Speaker 19: potentially going to have a bit of pressure put on

1450
01:17:10,827 --> 01:17:13,147
Speaker 19: them and it's ended up being the Warriors through an

1451
01:17:13,187 --> 01:17:15,627
Speaker 19: injury crisis and then James Fushaharis dipping out and he's

1452
01:17:15,667 --> 01:17:17,547
Speaker 19: the latest one to go down. No wag to egans

1453
01:17:18,587 --> 01:17:21,947
Speaker 19: of course, Metcalf went down as well, and earlier in

1454
01:17:21,987 --> 01:17:24,707
Speaker 19: the season Mitch Barnett, So you can't keep on coping

1455
01:17:24,787 --> 01:17:28,347
Speaker 19: with those types of injuries and expect to get better.

1456
01:17:28,867 --> 01:17:30,867
Speaker 19: And that's the thing that the Warriors I had to

1457
01:17:30,907 --> 01:17:32,947
Speaker 19: consider and I can see Penrith making a charge for that.

1458
01:17:33,027 --> 01:17:35,307
Speaker 19: But Pendrith do have a last month of the season,

1459
01:17:36,307 --> 01:17:40,347
Speaker 19: four high intensity games, so they're not across the line yet,

1460
01:17:40,387 --> 01:17:41,827
Speaker 19: but they are the ones I think that are going

1461
01:17:41,867 --> 01:17:42,427
Speaker 19: to jump at them.

1462
01:17:42,747 --> 01:17:44,347
Speaker 2: You see Eagle's going to make the eight, are they?

1463
01:17:45,307 --> 01:17:49,067
Speaker 19: Oh maybe? Yeah, we're bottom eight team I called earlier

1464
01:17:49,067 --> 01:17:53,187
Speaker 19: in the year, like bottom eight team, as in bottom

1465
01:17:53,267 --> 01:17:57,547
Speaker 19: of the eight team, Yeah, yeah, gotcha, seventh or eighth, Yeah,

1466
01:17:57,827 --> 01:17:59,947
Speaker 19: just gone around in circles. It feels like I've got

1467
01:17:59,987 --> 01:18:02,947
Speaker 19: absolutely tapped last week by the Bulldogs play the Roosters

1468
01:18:03,187 --> 01:18:07,187
Speaker 19: later on tonight. Again they mentioned that whether it could

1469
01:18:07,227 --> 01:18:09,587
Speaker 19: be challenging conditions for a team like Marley he liked

1470
01:18:09,587 --> 01:18:12,347
Speaker 19: to throw the ball around. It's raining and it's showing

1471
01:18:12,427 --> 01:18:16,547
Speaker 19: those signs of easing up. So yeah, I think you

1472
01:18:16,587 --> 01:18:18,067
Speaker 19: can guess by the tone of my voice, and I'm

1473
01:18:19,307 --> 01:18:21,347
Speaker 19: I'm not booking my ticul the Grand Finals for that way.

1474
01:18:21,827 --> 01:18:24,787
Speaker 2: Good to see that. And just finally today World Swim

1475
01:18:24,907 --> 01:18:27,507
Speaker 2: Champs and Singapore, we know how big swimming is in Australia.

1476
01:18:27,987 --> 01:18:30,467
Speaker 2: Five golds so fast, same number as the US, including

1477
01:18:30,547 --> 01:18:34,827
Speaker 2: three to Mollio Callahan. She's now equaled Ian Thorpe's Australian

1478
01:18:34,907 --> 01:18:39,427
Speaker 2: record of eleven World Championship gold medals, agonizing second and

1479
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Speaker 2: the one hundred and three overnight but still some record.

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01:18:42,827 --> 01:18:46,507
Speaker 19: Yeah, she felt, and reading what she said after that,

1481
01:18:46,707 --> 01:18:49,307
Speaker 19: she basically said, I was a bit gassed from the

1482
01:18:49,427 --> 01:18:51,427
Speaker 19: night before where I anchored the four by two hundred

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01:18:51,467 --> 01:18:54,587
Speaker 19: meter relay for a huge win over America. So she's

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01:18:55,347 --> 01:18:59,147
Speaker 19: so good, Molio Callahan, and she's going to go down

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01:18:59,227 --> 01:19:02,267
Speaker 19: as one of our greatest swimmers. A question that's kind

1486
01:19:02,307 --> 01:19:04,547
Speaker 19: of been raised over here this week is will she

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01:19:04,667 --> 01:19:08,147
Speaker 19: go down as our greatest stop And the thought is

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01:19:08,187 --> 01:19:10,547
Speaker 19: that she'll probably have to go for two more Olympic cycles,

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01:19:10,587 --> 01:19:13,667
Speaker 19: which is going to be difficult. By the time Brisbane

1490
01:19:13,747 --> 01:19:16,867
Speaker 19: comes around, I think she'll be twenty nine, So that's

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01:19:16,907 --> 01:19:19,187
Speaker 19: at the outer edge of what we've seen from swimming.

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01:19:19,267 --> 01:19:21,907
Speaker 19: Usually they retire in their mid twenties because it is

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01:19:22,067 --> 01:19:24,507
Speaker 19: so arduous and you know, that they're not getting these

1494
01:19:24,547 --> 01:19:26,747
Speaker 19: big five hundred and six hundred thousand dollars contracts at

1495
01:19:26,787 --> 01:19:29,507
Speaker 19: footy players get to keep being professional, they have to

1496
01:19:29,547 --> 01:19:32,107
Speaker 19: go off into the real world, some of them. So yeah,

1497
01:19:32,427 --> 01:19:34,067
Speaker 19: I hope she can. It's going to be the big

1498
01:19:34,107 --> 01:19:36,347
Speaker 19: watch over the next four or five years about how

1499
01:19:36,427 --> 01:19:38,347
Speaker 19: good she ends up. But even Ian Thorpe has said

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01:19:38,387 --> 01:19:40,867
Speaker 19: that she's got a chance to be as right at

1501
01:19:41,067 --> 01:19:41,827
Speaker 19: the top of the rum and.

1502
01:19:41,867 --> 01:19:43,307
Speaker 10: He's the guy at at the top of the run.

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01:19:43,427 --> 01:19:45,627
Speaker 19: So that'll be a good watch. And she's had a

1504
01:19:45,667 --> 01:19:48,507
Speaker 19: great week and our swimmers have done so well against

1505
01:19:48,547 --> 01:19:51,267
Speaker 19: an American team again, which the Americans have so much

1506
01:19:51,307 --> 01:19:53,307
Speaker 19: depth in this book because they've got the collegiate system,

1507
01:19:53,387 --> 01:19:55,187
Speaker 19: and our swimmers have stood up to them.

1508
01:19:55,227 --> 01:19:55,427
Speaker 12: Again.

1509
01:19:55,587 --> 01:19:59,067
Speaker 2: Absolutely, Maria Kell, she's got all these golds and world

1510
01:19:59,107 --> 01:20:02,587
Speaker 2: championship and her Olympic feats. Of course she's only twenty one.

1511
01:20:02,947 --> 01:20:03,907
Speaker 2: It's crazy, isn't it.

1512
01:20:04,027 --> 01:20:07,147
Speaker 19: Its means and it's about the timing, isn't it. So

1513
01:20:07,267 --> 01:20:10,067
Speaker 19: Michael Phelps had that timing just right, like coming and

1514
01:20:10,187 --> 01:20:12,587
Speaker 19: becoming great at the right time, which allowed you to

1515
01:20:12,667 --> 01:20:15,427
Speaker 19: fit in three or four Olympic cycles instead of two

1516
01:20:15,547 --> 01:20:19,347
Speaker 19: or three and yeah, so Molly's definitely in that Molio

1517
01:20:19,427 --> 01:20:22,187
Speaker 19: Callahan's definitely in that space and probably helped by the

1518
01:20:22,267 --> 01:20:25,547
Speaker 19: fact that the Tokyo Olympics got eighty years so she

1519
01:20:25,667 --> 01:20:28,867
Speaker 19: could start her Olympic career there and obviously went to

1520
01:20:28,947 --> 01:20:31,187
Speaker 19: Paris and La and Brisbane's on the radar.

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01:20:31,387 --> 01:20:34,987
Speaker 2: Indeed, always great chatting Australian sport with you, Adam. Thank

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01:20:35,027 --> 01:20:37,267
Speaker 2: you for updating us. We'll do it again next Saturday.

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01:20:37,787 --> 01:20:38,227
Speaker 19: Sounds good.

1524
01:20:38,307 --> 01:20:39,507
Speaker 9: Thanks Bunny, No, thank you, Adam.

1525
01:20:39,507 --> 01:20:43,307
Speaker 2: Adam Piccott, our Australian correspondent on All Sporting Matters Saturday

1526
01:20:43,307 --> 01:20:45,507
Speaker 2: afternoons here on Weekend Sports. Just coming at eight to two.

1527
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Speaker 2: Couple of techs through Cooper Roberts Center for New Zealand

1528
01:20:49,027 --> 01:20:51,867
Speaker 2: in the Under twenty World Cup Tasman MPC this year.

1529
01:20:52,187 --> 01:20:54,547
Speaker 2: We badly need his style of player, good on d

1530
01:20:54,707 --> 01:20:57,227
Speaker 2: and good at setting up as wingers Cooper Roberts. I

1531
01:20:57,267 --> 01:20:59,947
Speaker 2: think he's in an older boys, isn't he. The problem

1532
01:21:00,027 --> 01:21:02,707
Speaker 2: with he might strike is getting a game when you

1533
01:21:02,747 --> 01:21:05,667
Speaker 2: look at the stacked midfield and Tasman. But I'm sure

1534
01:21:05,747 --> 01:21:08,827
Speaker 2: he time will come Cooper Roberts and watch this player,

1535
01:21:09,787 --> 01:21:14,307
Speaker 2: says Quinn Sage walters Hanson and Talleranaky. He's been in

1536
01:21:14,387 --> 01:21:16,427
Speaker 2: the Northland junior set up last three years, moved back

1537
01:21:16,427 --> 01:21:18,867
Speaker 2: home to the Naki last year as cracked the Tartanhucky

1538
01:21:18,907 --> 01:21:20,627
Speaker 2: squad this year after being named club player of the

1539
01:21:20,707 --> 01:21:23,787
Speaker 2: Year from Clifton Up the Balls, says Quinn, I'll keep

1540
01:21:23,787 --> 01:21:26,507
Speaker 2: an eye on Sage walters Hanson as well. I think

1541
01:21:26,547 --> 01:21:29,187
Speaker 2: he might be on the bench tonight loose Ford for

1542
01:21:29,307 --> 01:21:32,667
Speaker 2: Talleranaky against Northland seven to two. Back after this on

1543
01:21:32,747 --> 01:21:34,387
Speaker 2: Newstalk ZBI from.

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01:21:34,627 --> 01:21:39,587
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Speaker 2: but we'll play that after two, after two o'clock straight away.

1558
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Speaker 2: I just want to drill down to this decision by

1559
01:22:24,867 --> 01:22:27,267
Speaker 2: Joe Schmitt to leave Carlo Tazano out of the Wallabies.

1560
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Speaker 1: Tonight the only place to discuss the biggest sports issues

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Speaker 1: on and after fields.

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Speaker 10: It's all on weekends.

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Speaker 1: Forward with Jason Day on your home of sports US

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Speaker 1: Talk Shoo seven.

1565
01:22:42,787 --> 01:22:44,827
Speaker 2: Welcome back into the show, Welcome into the show. Busy

1566
01:22:44,947 --> 01:22:46,867
Speaker 2: last hour coming your way. Caught up in a rugby

1567
01:22:46,907 --> 01:22:50,667
Speaker 2: to get through Stag Day and then for cargo. Southland

1568
01:22:50,747 --> 01:22:54,707
Speaker 2: vi Otago. They love it down there. Ten thousand set

1569
01:22:54,747 --> 01:22:57,947
Speaker 2: to pack into Rugby Park. Jason Rutlers will be there.

1570
01:22:58,347 --> 01:23:00,947
Speaker 2: He's played about one thousand games for Southland, not that

1571
01:23:01,067 --> 01:23:05,747
Speaker 2: many but plenty. He still he's not still playing, is he?

1572
01:23:05,867 --> 01:23:05,907
Speaker 16: No?

1573
01:23:07,387 --> 01:23:09,507
Speaker 2: I know he came out of retirement to play some

1574
01:23:09,587 --> 01:23:13,387
Speaker 2: club stuff. It'd be mid forties now, Jason Rutlers. Anyway,

1575
01:23:13,387 --> 01:23:16,027
Speaker 2: he's going to have you on to us about Southland

1576
01:23:16,107 --> 01:23:17,867
Speaker 2: vi Otago and just how big a game this is

1577
01:23:18,507 --> 01:23:21,267
Speaker 2: for the Stags, particularly this early in the season. We'll

1578
01:23:21,307 --> 01:23:25,227
Speaker 2: also preview tonight's ran Philly Shield challenge. Tananhacky, Northland, Josh

1579
01:23:25,307 --> 01:23:28,667
Speaker 2: Jacob Simon Parker, both on the show chiefs teammates but

1580
01:23:28,907 --> 01:23:32,067
Speaker 2: opposition players tonight for the Amber and Blacks and the

1581
01:23:32,107 --> 01:23:35,387
Speaker 2: Tunny Fa also going to play our new game a

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1586
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Speaker 2: Pretty good really. I want to talk shortly as well

1587
01:23:52,787 --> 01:23:57,947
Speaker 2: about the decision by Joe Schmidt, Wallaby's coach to bring

1588
01:23:58,067 --> 01:24:00,907
Speaker 2: Carlo Tazano out of the spotlight, because I reckon that's

1589
01:24:00,947 --> 01:24:04,347
Speaker 2: what he's done ahead of the third Test tonight. I

1590
01:24:04,467 --> 01:24:07,987
Speaker 2: know Carlo Tizano have been suffering some ill effects from

1591
01:24:08,027 --> 01:24:11,027
Speaker 2: the collision at the back end of the second Test

1592
01:24:11,147 --> 01:24:13,507
Speaker 2: last week, but he has been copying it on social media,

1593
01:24:13,587 --> 01:24:17,067
Speaker 2: mainly from British and Irish Lions fans about his so

1594
01:24:17,307 --> 01:24:21,027
Speaker 2: called theatrics at the end of that game, and that

1595
01:24:21,187 --> 01:24:23,987
Speaker 2: impact I think has played a part in Joe Schmitt's

1596
01:24:24,027 --> 01:24:27,227
Speaker 2: decision not to pick him tonight anyway we can get

1597
01:24:27,307 --> 01:24:30,227
Speaker 2: into that. Oh e one hundred and eighty ten eighty's

1598
01:24:30,227 --> 01:24:32,387
Speaker 2: our phone number nine two ninety two is our text line.

1599
01:24:32,387 --> 01:24:35,907
Speaker 2: We'll also keep eyes on the MPC game at Potty

1600
01:24:35,947 --> 01:24:38,267
Speaker 2: Tour which has just kicked off three minutes and no

1601
01:24:38,387 --> 01:24:40,747
Speaker 2: score between Wellington and Canterburdge. But as we always do

1602
01:24:40,827 --> 01:24:43,467
Speaker 2: it around about this time on Saturday afternoons and Sundays

1603
01:24:43,507 --> 01:24:45,307
Speaker 2: in fact time to get you across the stuff you

1604
01:24:45,467 --> 01:24:48,227
Speaker 2: may have not caught up with, some of the stuff

1605
01:24:48,267 --> 01:24:52,947
Speaker 2: that you may have missed. In case you missed it

1606
01:24:53,067 --> 01:24:56,707
Speaker 2: is what we call it. Starting in the AFL Australian Rules,

1607
01:24:57,267 --> 01:25:00,947
Speaker 2: a Berg went for Adelaide over Hawthorne last night, putting

1608
01:25:00,947 --> 01:25:04,507
Speaker 2: them right back at the top of the table. Jin Walker.

1609
01:25:06,427 --> 01:25:07,507
Speaker 16: The kid data.

1610
01:25:08,867 --> 01:25:11,027
Speaker 2: Promes by eleven points.

1611
01:25:11,507 --> 01:25:13,587
Speaker 7: So Frida in August.

1612
01:25:15,147 --> 01:25:22,267
Speaker 2: Nine eleven a September light contest and Andre for those

1613
01:25:22,347 --> 01:25:27,827
Speaker 2: Adelaide fans one seven and Adelaide's still on that side

1614
01:25:27,827 --> 01:25:31,227
Speaker 2: of the Tasman the Broncos running up an enormous score

1615
01:25:31,827 --> 01:25:34,067
Speaker 2: over the Rabbit O's in the NRL, Ezra.

1616
01:25:33,987 --> 01:25:38,787
Speaker 3: Limps to the play the ball, Carrigan floats it whilst over.

1617
01:25:41,107 --> 01:25:41,867
Speaker 11: And satsin.

1618
01:25:41,987 --> 01:25:44,027
Speaker 20: You just can't get back there to point that out,

1619
01:25:44,147 --> 01:25:46,187
Speaker 20: and whilst joins the dry.

1620
01:25:46,027 --> 01:25:50,427
Speaker 16: Scoring party a sense of an inevitability and now Forsbon

1621
01:25:50,467 --> 01:25:51,067
Speaker 16: are going to get to.

1622
01:25:51,147 --> 01:25:55,107
Speaker 2: Six sixteen fourteen, the Broncos over the Rabbit, O's to

1623
01:25:55,227 --> 01:25:59,947
Speaker 2: golf and the Women's British Open. Lidia Coe having her struggles, will.

1624
01:25:59,947 --> 01:26:04,067
Speaker 16: Most likely her last shot of her AIG this year.

1625
01:26:04,147 --> 01:26:04,867
Speaker 9: But you'll never know.

1626
01:26:06,347 --> 01:26:07,747
Speaker 8: I'll let them see what happens.

1627
01:26:11,107 --> 01:26:13,507
Speaker 18: Yeah, you feel actually pretty confidence if they're wand all

1628
01:26:13,507 --> 01:26:15,187
Speaker 18: of a car just looking at the where things are doing.

1629
01:26:15,267 --> 01:26:17,107
Speaker 2: If the wind were to continue to blow like this,

1630
01:26:17,347 --> 01:26:20,547
Speaker 2: but two maybe pushing it now, luck was on her side.

1631
01:26:20,707 --> 01:26:23,267
Speaker 2: She has made the Cutler deco and we'll play the weekend.

1632
01:26:23,747 --> 01:26:26,667
Speaker 2: The black Caps mopped up their first Test against Zimbabwe

1633
01:26:26,827 --> 01:26:31,187
Speaker 2: well inside three days. I think it's done now.

1634
01:26:32,027 --> 01:26:35,427
Speaker 15: Henry Nichols plays the pull shot to end the first

1635
01:26:35,467 --> 01:26:37,667
Speaker 15: Test match inside three days.

1636
01:26:38,107 --> 01:26:41,227
Speaker 2: New Zealand win this by nine wickets. They needed just

1637
01:26:41,307 --> 01:26:43,627
Speaker 2: eight runs in their second innings to finish the job

1638
01:26:43,787 --> 01:26:46,787
Speaker 2: and did it without any problems. Well, they lost even Conway,

1639
01:26:46,827 --> 01:26:52,107
Speaker 2: but got there relatively easily and in PC delivering two

1640
01:26:52,227 --> 01:26:54,787
Speaker 2: great matches already with an exciting win from monaw two

1641
01:26:54,867 --> 01:26:56,147
Speaker 2: last night over North Harbor.

1642
01:26:56,707 --> 01:26:59,307
Speaker 19: Your say's got it, Your say tries to elude fights

1643
01:26:59,347 --> 01:27:02,507
Speaker 19: a gap gets the offload away to Sam Coles.

1644
01:27:02,747 --> 01:27:05,627
Speaker 2: Oh it just said was a note? No full of

1645
01:27:05,707 --> 01:27:08,107
Speaker 2: money's gone? Full of money scores?

1646
01:27:08,707 --> 01:27:14,547
Speaker 18: Oh outrageous mono a two score, I'm sure the winning

1647
01:27:14,707 --> 01:27:15,547
Speaker 18: try of the game.

1648
01:27:16,387 --> 01:27:17,947
Speaker 2: Oh how did that unravel?

1649
01:27:18,547 --> 01:27:23,507
Speaker 1: Goodness gracious me analyzing every view from every angle in

1650
01:27:23,627 --> 01:27:27,307
Speaker 1: the sporting world. Weekends for It with Jason Ye Call

1651
01:27:27,587 --> 01:27:29,827
Speaker 1: eighty News Talks.

1652
01:27:29,667 --> 01:27:33,107
Speaker 2: MB, News Talks, VB and Weekend Sport twelve past two.

1653
01:27:33,347 --> 01:27:38,107
Speaker 2: Jason Rutledge is still playing rugby. He's forty seven. I've

1654
01:27:38,187 --> 01:27:43,067
Speaker 2: just been sent from a good mate will a social

1655
01:27:43,147 --> 01:27:46,587
Speaker 2: media screenshot from earlier this year. Jason Rutledge, it says,

1656
01:27:46,707 --> 01:27:50,907
Speaker 2: has just been part of his eleventh Southland Premiere Club

1657
01:27:51,027 --> 01:27:54,627
Speaker 2: rugby title after turning in an eighteen minute performance in

1658
01:27:54,667 --> 01:27:58,547
Speaker 2: the front row at forty seven years of age. The

1659
01:27:58,747 --> 01:28:04,547
Speaker 2: legend continues Rutledge's eleventh title at the age of forty seven.

1660
01:28:04,587 --> 01:28:07,027
Speaker 2: That is incredible. Jason Rutlige is with us surely well.

1661
01:28:07,067 --> 01:28:10,267
Speaker 2: Thanks for sending that through, mate, Much appreciated. The Wallabies

1662
01:28:10,307 --> 01:28:12,427
Speaker 2: and the Lions clash in the third and final Test

1663
01:28:12,507 --> 01:28:15,947
Speaker 2: of their series in Sydney tonight. Australian loose forward Carlo

1664
01:28:16,067 --> 01:28:19,627
Speaker 2: Tazano found himself the center of attention last weekend when

1665
01:28:19,667 --> 01:28:22,027
Speaker 2: he was cleaned out by Jack Morgan in the final

1666
01:28:22,107 --> 01:28:24,067
Speaker 2: ruck of the game, which of course led to the

1667
01:28:24,187 --> 01:28:28,547
Speaker 2: Lions winning tried. Controversy raged about whether the cleanout was legal,

1668
01:28:29,107 --> 01:28:32,667
Speaker 2: and Carlo Tazano himself copped a lot of blowback for

1669
01:28:32,787 --> 01:28:36,947
Speaker 2: what many thought was a theatrical reaction to the contact

1670
01:28:36,987 --> 01:28:40,547
Speaker 2: he received from Jack Morgan. Wallaby's coach Joe Schmidt said

1671
01:28:40,627 --> 01:28:44,547
Speaker 2: on Thursday that Tazano had copped a lot of online

1672
01:28:44,587 --> 01:28:47,387
Speaker 2: abuse and along with the effects of the blow to

1673
01:28:47,507 --> 01:28:51,107
Speaker 2: his neck, would sit the third Test out. Let's bring

1674
01:28:51,187 --> 01:28:56,307
Speaker 2: in vastly experienced and highly regarded performance coach Aaron walshoes

1675
01:28:56,387 --> 01:28:59,027
Speaker 2: worked with the Chiefs, with the Newcastle Knights, with the

1676
01:28:59,067 --> 01:29:02,827
Speaker 2: Scotland rugby team and many others. Aaron, thanks for lending

1677
01:29:02,907 --> 01:29:05,987
Speaker 2: us your expertise. It feels to me as though Joe

1678
01:29:06,027 --> 01:29:10,147
Speaker 2: Shmi is taking Carlo Tazano out of the spotlight here

1679
01:29:10,227 --> 01:29:12,787
Speaker 2: because of the week he's head in terms of the

1680
01:29:12,907 --> 01:29:16,987
Speaker 2: social media blowback. Is this the right move by Joe Schmidt?

1681
01:29:17,707 --> 01:29:17,907
Speaker 16: Yeah?

1682
01:29:18,107 --> 01:29:20,987
Speaker 11: It's an interesting one, isn't it, Because you know, we

1683
01:29:21,107 --> 01:29:23,507
Speaker 11: now live in the day of age, a day of

1684
01:29:23,547 --> 01:29:26,467
Speaker 11: age where you think, you know, we look back ten

1685
01:29:26,547 --> 01:29:28,987
Speaker 11: fifteen years ago when these things sort of happen and

1686
01:29:29,267 --> 01:29:31,267
Speaker 11: the athletes is able to crack onto it. There might

1687
01:29:31,267 --> 01:29:34,787
Speaker 11: be a couple of newspaper articles. But you know, I

1688
01:29:34,867 --> 01:29:37,027
Speaker 11: think in some senses, you know, if you're a player

1689
01:29:37,187 --> 01:29:40,547
Speaker 11: and you're feeling this, and you know your coach shows

1690
01:29:40,627 --> 01:29:45,187
Speaker 11: that amount of care to protect the person over the performance,

1691
01:29:45,547 --> 01:29:47,307
Speaker 11: you know, I think there's a lot to be said

1692
01:29:47,347 --> 01:29:49,067
Speaker 11: by the way that Joe is actually approaching it.

1693
01:29:49,587 --> 01:29:53,027
Speaker 2: Do you think Carlo Tuzano would have wanted to play tonight?

1694
01:29:54,347 --> 01:29:56,187
Speaker 11: So hard to say, isn't it, mate, Unless you're in

1695
01:29:56,267 --> 01:29:59,267
Speaker 11: there like one, you know, we're not sure of you know,

1696
01:29:59,387 --> 01:30:04,227
Speaker 11: the injury complications from a collision like that. But also

1697
01:30:04,467 --> 01:30:07,547
Speaker 11: I imagine, you know, highly experienced operator and Joe that

1698
01:30:07,667 --> 01:30:09,827
Speaker 11: they would have had these conversations during the week and

1699
01:30:09,907 --> 01:30:12,307
Speaker 11: he may have picked up something and you know, often

1700
01:30:12,347 --> 01:30:14,667
Speaker 11: the players will you know, they always want to play,

1701
01:30:14,707 --> 01:30:17,147
Speaker 11: they always want to put their best foot forward, and

1702
01:30:17,587 --> 01:30:19,587
Speaker 11: you know, he may have picked up something during the

1703
01:30:19,627 --> 01:30:22,587
Speaker 11: week and you know, in his mood or the way

1704
01:30:22,707 --> 01:30:25,227
Speaker 11: things are being processed, that he just might thought, hey,

1705
01:30:25,347 --> 01:30:27,067
Speaker 11: I need to look after this young full He's got

1706
01:30:27,067 --> 01:30:28,667
Speaker 11: a long career ahead of him, he's a good player,

1707
01:30:29,387 --> 01:30:31,107
Speaker 11: and it might be just the right thing to do

1708
01:30:31,147 --> 01:30:32,187
Speaker 11: at this point of his career.

1709
01:30:32,667 --> 01:30:35,587
Speaker 2: As you say, Aaron, we're operating in a completely different

1710
01:30:35,747 --> 01:30:40,187
Speaker 2: environment than we were even ten fifteen years ago. Is

1711
01:30:40,267 --> 01:30:45,747
Speaker 2: it possible for a player to completely ignore online noise?

1712
01:30:47,147 --> 01:30:50,787
Speaker 11: It's an interesting one, mate, because I think, as you're aware,

1713
01:30:51,387 --> 01:30:54,147
Speaker 11: you know, a lot of their social media presence just

1714
01:30:54,307 --> 01:30:56,667
Speaker 11: isn't about them sharing their life or about their performance.

1715
01:30:56,667 --> 01:31:00,787
Speaker 11: They of commercial obligations. So it's very easy to say

1716
01:31:00,827 --> 01:31:03,147
Speaker 11: I just you know, don't have a presence. You don't

1717
01:31:03,187 --> 01:31:04,427
Speaker 11: have to look for everything, you don't have to hear

1718
01:31:04,467 --> 01:31:06,267
Speaker 11: for it. But you know that they may have to

1719
01:31:06,467 --> 01:31:08,427
Speaker 11: post a certain number of times a week to meet

1720
01:31:08,627 --> 01:31:11,867
Speaker 11: you know, either the team sponsors or their personal sponsors.

1721
01:31:14,027 --> 01:31:15,667
Speaker 11: There is you know, I know a couple of athletes

1722
01:31:15,707 --> 01:31:17,307
Speaker 11: that I've worked with over the years who have a

1723
01:31:17,387 --> 01:31:20,787
Speaker 11: couple of phones, and you know they'll just go to

1724
01:31:20,867 --> 01:31:22,787
Speaker 11: one of their phones two or three days out after

1725
01:31:22,827 --> 01:31:24,667
Speaker 11: a game, and maybe a day out after a game

1726
01:31:24,707 --> 01:31:27,547
Speaker 11: where they'll just have their loved ones, their close family,

1727
01:31:27,587 --> 01:31:29,827
Speaker 11: and there'll be no social media on it, just so

1728
01:31:29,947 --> 01:31:33,867
Speaker 11: they create you know, a little bit of separation, you know,

1729
01:31:34,187 --> 01:31:36,827
Speaker 11: from building into the game one and not having those

1730
01:31:36,947 --> 01:31:40,507
Speaker 11: voices sort of percolating in their head. And also secondly

1731
01:31:40,587 --> 01:31:43,267
Speaker 11: just about the process. I think, I think what you've

1732
01:31:43,267 --> 01:31:46,427
Speaker 11: got to realize with players is I sort of call

1733
01:31:46,467 --> 01:31:49,787
Speaker 11: it the microscope and telescope. You know, the first twenty

1734
01:31:49,867 --> 01:31:52,587
Speaker 11: four hours after a game, they're in microscope mode, which is,

1735
01:31:53,107 --> 01:31:56,947
Speaker 11: you know, everything's bigger, everything feels bigger. They're replaying, rehashing

1736
01:31:57,747 --> 01:32:00,027
Speaker 11: moments of the game. But you know, as they get

1737
01:32:00,107 --> 01:32:02,507
Speaker 11: further away from the performance, they're able to step back,

1738
01:32:02,627 --> 01:32:06,307
Speaker 11: have perspective, look at things, and then you know, probably

1739
01:32:06,347 --> 01:32:08,707
Speaker 11: get a bit of a clearer evaluation of how their

1740
01:32:08,747 --> 01:32:09,387
Speaker 11: performance went.

1741
01:32:09,867 --> 01:32:11,987
Speaker 2: That's a that's a terrific way of looking at it.

1742
01:32:12,067 --> 01:32:14,507
Speaker 2: Often the bigger impact is on the family of the

1743
01:32:14,627 --> 01:32:16,867
Speaker 2: players who find themselves in the spotlight. They might not

1744
01:32:16,987 --> 01:32:20,307
Speaker 2: have two phones, you know, they they might not be

1745
01:32:20,387 --> 01:32:22,947
Speaker 2: able to avoid the stuff that's being said about their son,

1746
01:32:23,187 --> 01:32:28,547
Speaker 2: their brother. How should family of high profile. Athletes deal

1747
01:32:28,627 --> 01:32:29,347
Speaker 2: with this sort of thing.

1748
01:32:30,547 --> 01:32:32,947
Speaker 11: You know, it's one of those ones where you know,

1749
01:32:32,987 --> 01:32:34,227
Speaker 11: I think it's going to be a little bit different

1750
01:32:34,267 --> 01:32:36,467
Speaker 11: for everyone. I know, even you know and the teams

1751
01:32:36,467 --> 01:32:38,507
Speaker 11: that I work with. You get close to the players,

1752
01:32:38,587 --> 01:32:41,227
Speaker 11: they become I wouldn't say like family, but they become

1753
01:32:41,267 --> 01:32:43,947
Speaker 11: people you care about deeply, and you know, you just

1754
01:32:44,027 --> 01:32:46,067
Speaker 11: got to it's easier to send them done. You've got

1755
01:32:46,107 --> 01:32:48,587
Speaker 11: to stay away, and you know, I think you know,

1756
01:32:48,787 --> 01:32:51,267
Speaker 11: one of the things that you know, Claydon McMillan, that

1757
01:32:51,307 --> 01:32:52,947
Speaker 11: the chiefs used to talk about is, you know, you

1758
01:32:53,027 --> 01:32:55,587
Speaker 11: can't just look at social media when you're going well

1759
01:32:55,947 --> 01:32:58,387
Speaker 11: and then avoid it when you're going poorly. You know,

1760
01:32:58,827 --> 01:33:01,467
Speaker 11: you know, now you know you're going to take both

1761
01:33:01,507 --> 01:33:03,187
Speaker 11: sides of it. So if you want to engage, there's

1762
01:33:03,187 --> 01:33:04,667
Speaker 11: going to be parts of it. We have to deal

1763
01:33:04,747 --> 01:33:05,387
Speaker 11: with the criticism.

1764
01:33:05,507 --> 01:33:06,747
Speaker 5: But I you know, you you hear it.

1765
01:33:06,787 --> 01:33:08,307
Speaker 11: It sounds a bit of a cliche, but I don't

1766
01:33:08,347 --> 01:33:11,667
Speaker 11: really think it is. Is that these players and these

1767
01:33:11,707 --> 01:33:14,827
Speaker 11: athletes will be much harder critics on their own performance

1768
01:33:14,867 --> 01:33:15,827
Speaker 11: than anyone in the public.

1769
01:33:16,187 --> 01:33:19,627
Speaker 2: Indeed, do you think players are on the whole when

1770
01:33:19,667 --> 01:33:22,267
Speaker 2: they've had a good game, like to get online to

1771
01:33:22,307 --> 01:33:23,667
Speaker 2: see what people are saying about them.

1772
01:33:24,707 --> 01:33:25,547
Speaker 11: Are they humans?

1773
01:33:25,667 --> 01:33:26,627
Speaker 12: I probably suspect.

1774
01:33:26,707 --> 01:33:30,427
Speaker 11: So it's probably like after if you do an absolute

1775
01:33:30,507 --> 01:33:32,947
Speaker 11: belter of a show, you're probably looking at the common.

1776
01:33:32,787 --> 01:33:34,827
Speaker 2: Yeah, that doesn't have it very often. That doesn't have

1777
01:33:34,907 --> 01:33:36,387
Speaker 2: it very often. But no, I take your point.

1778
01:33:37,467 --> 01:33:39,107
Speaker 11: But if you have a shock, you still at want

1779
01:33:39,107 --> 01:33:42,547
Speaker 11: to stay away. I think I think it's natural human instinct.

1780
01:33:42,587 --> 01:33:45,187
Speaker 11: We all want to feel praised, don't we all? Don't

1781
01:33:45,227 --> 01:33:46,947
Speaker 11: We all want to feel valued. We all want to

1782
01:33:46,987 --> 01:33:50,027
Speaker 11: feel like, you know, our work has acknowledged. So I think,

1783
01:33:50,147 --> 01:33:52,307
Speaker 11: you know, there's part of the human side that would

1784
01:33:52,307 --> 01:33:56,587
Speaker 11: be naturally looking for, you know, whether it's affirmation or

1785
01:33:56,707 --> 01:33:58,947
Speaker 11: support or whatever it is. I think, yeah, it's probably

1786
01:33:58,987 --> 01:33:59,547
Speaker 11: pretty common.

1787
01:34:00,027 --> 01:34:03,987
Speaker 2: How much has the care of players improved, you know

1788
01:34:04,187 --> 01:34:07,907
Speaker 2: in recent times? You know, offer you look back and

1789
01:34:08,267 --> 01:34:10,147
Speaker 2: the old days, as they say, actually just you know,

1790
01:34:10,307 --> 01:34:12,907
Speaker 2: toughen up and get out there careful players. Is that

1791
01:34:13,307 --> 01:34:15,347
Speaker 2: something which has improved in recent times?

1792
01:34:16,067 --> 01:34:19,227
Speaker 11: Yeah, I reckon it's completely different right now. I think

1793
01:34:19,267 --> 01:34:23,627
Speaker 11: it's one that the athletes. It's a wider question actually,

1794
01:34:23,667 --> 01:34:26,987
Speaker 11: because you know, the athletes now are much more aware

1795
01:34:27,027 --> 01:34:31,507
Speaker 11: of their own mental and emotional status. I think, you

1796
01:34:31,587 --> 01:34:34,147
Speaker 11: know that one of the positives of social media or

1797
01:34:34,427 --> 01:34:35,867
Speaker 11: you know, the world we live it now is people

1798
01:34:35,867 --> 01:34:39,187
Speaker 11: aren't really afraid. And our conversations around mental health as

1799
01:34:39,187 --> 01:34:42,587
Speaker 11: a society has given permission for people to speak about

1800
01:34:42,627 --> 01:34:45,467
Speaker 11: how they feel. And so, you know, I think a

1801
01:34:45,547 --> 01:34:47,667
Speaker 11: lot of it was, you know, back in the day

1802
01:34:47,667 --> 01:34:49,267
Speaker 11: when I was growing up and you were growing up.

1803
01:34:49,347 --> 01:34:50,867
Speaker 11: I don't know if we had the tools or we

1804
01:34:50,947 --> 01:34:53,987
Speaker 11: had the experts around us to be alop to process that.

1805
01:34:54,747 --> 01:34:57,427
Speaker 11: And now I think every coach who's dealing with these

1806
01:34:57,467 --> 01:34:59,707
Speaker 11: young athletes, they have to be equipped and they have

1807
01:34:59,827 --> 01:35:02,427
Speaker 11: to be aware that, you know, you have to care

1808
01:35:02,547 --> 01:35:04,667
Speaker 11: for the person to get the best out of the performer,

1809
01:35:05,467 --> 01:35:08,667
Speaker 11: and our players are so sensitive. If they don't feel

1810
01:35:08,747 --> 01:35:10,387
Speaker 11: cared for it, but they don't feel like they belong,

1811
01:35:10,507 --> 01:35:13,787
Speaker 11: if they don't feel like people value them beyond what

1812
01:35:13,867 --> 01:35:17,507
Speaker 11: they can just do on a field, then you're not

1813
01:35:17,547 --> 01:35:18,947
Speaker 11: going to get the best out of them. So I

1814
01:35:19,027 --> 01:35:23,347
Speaker 11: think it's actually a competitive advantage now to create environments

1815
01:35:23,347 --> 01:35:27,187
Speaker 11: where we actually care for people. Yeah, it'd be a basic.

1816
01:35:27,067 --> 01:35:30,747
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely right. Just to finish tonight is what is

1817
01:35:30,787 --> 01:35:33,227
Speaker 2: commonly termed a dead rubber. The series is won by

1818
01:35:33,267 --> 01:35:36,707
Speaker 2: the Lions Tonight's material as far as that is concerned.

1819
01:35:36,867 --> 01:35:40,227
Speaker 2: So how challenging or not is it to get players

1820
01:35:40,387 --> 01:35:41,707
Speaker 2: up for games like this?

1821
01:35:42,827 --> 01:35:45,627
Speaker 11: I think you've got to be pretty savvy about how

1822
01:35:45,667 --> 01:35:48,787
Speaker 11: you do it, you know, like I think good teams

1823
01:35:49,547 --> 01:35:51,947
Speaker 11: are driven externally so that if they're up for a

1824
01:35:51,987 --> 01:35:53,787
Speaker 11: big game, and you know, we face this all the

1825
01:35:53,827 --> 01:35:55,507
Speaker 11: time and I wasn't super rugby. You know, you've got

1826
01:35:56,067 --> 01:35:58,867
Speaker 11: it's not hard to motivate guys for Blues or Crusaders.

1827
01:35:58,907 --> 01:36:00,387
Speaker 11: But what if you play one of the other teams

1828
01:36:00,427 --> 01:36:02,227
Speaker 11: that you know, on paper you should have a pretty

1829
01:36:02,267 --> 01:36:05,227
Speaker 11: good chance of defeating, Well, then you've got to go

1830
01:36:05,347 --> 01:36:08,387
Speaker 11: much more internal is about you know, we've got to

1831
01:36:08,507 --> 01:36:12,987
Speaker 11: we've got to perform, not motivated by the circumstance, but

1832
01:36:13,187 --> 01:36:14,987
Speaker 11: motivated by it as I to actually put out a

1833
01:36:15,027 --> 01:36:17,587
Speaker 11: good performance and to be true to ourselves and to

1834
01:36:17,667 --> 01:36:19,867
Speaker 11: hold to our values and to make sure our standards

1835
01:36:19,867 --> 01:36:23,187
Speaker 11: are high. And you know, I think both you know,

1836
01:36:23,307 --> 01:36:26,307
Speaker 11: from my experience of working in competitions both Andy Farrell

1837
01:36:26,347 --> 01:36:28,907
Speaker 11: when we played them in Ireland, and you know, I

1838
01:36:28,947 --> 01:36:31,227
Speaker 11: think Joe Smith and you know I don't think there'll

1839
01:36:31,267 --> 01:36:33,107
Speaker 11: be any problem with that. I think there's so much

1840
01:36:33,147 --> 01:36:35,587
Speaker 11: on the line as far as you know, we want

1841
01:36:35,627 --> 01:36:38,267
Speaker 11: to perform, to represent the teams, we want to play

1842
01:36:38,347 --> 01:36:40,627
Speaker 11: for each other. We want to make sure our fans

1843
01:36:41,067 --> 01:36:43,107
Speaker 11: are proud of what we put out there today. So

1844
01:36:43,707 --> 01:36:45,747
Speaker 11: I don't think there'll be any issue around getting up

1845
01:36:45,747 --> 01:36:46,347
Speaker 11: for a game like this.

1846
01:36:47,067 --> 01:36:49,667
Speaker 2: Brilliant insight as always, Erin, Thanks so much for joining

1847
01:36:49,747 --> 01:36:52,347
Speaker 2: us this afternoon, mate, really appreciate it. Yep, no problem,

1848
01:36:52,427 --> 01:36:55,547
Speaker 2: make anytime to twenty one. Thanks Aaron Aaron Walsh their

1849
01:36:55,747 --> 01:36:59,187
Speaker 2: mental skills and performance coach with some really interesting thoughts. Yeah,

1850
01:36:59,227 --> 01:37:02,627
Speaker 2: microscope and telescope. That's a very good way of looking

1851
01:37:02,667 --> 01:37:03,547
Speaker 2: at it, isn't it.

1852
01:37:04,067 --> 01:37:04,227
Speaker 16: Yeah.

1853
01:37:04,307 --> 01:37:06,867
Speaker 2: Third and final test between the Bridis in Irish Lines

1854
01:37:06,867 --> 01:37:10,187
Speaker 2: in the Wallabas to night ten o'clock Sydney. The Allians

1855
01:37:10,227 --> 01:37:13,267
Speaker 2: looking to become the first team since nineteen seventy four

1856
01:37:13,467 --> 01:37:17,387
Speaker 2: to go through an entire tour on foreign soil unbeaten.

1857
01:37:17,827 --> 01:37:20,387
Speaker 2: If they win tonight, that is exactly what they will achieve.

1858
01:37:20,507 --> 01:37:22,827
Speaker 2: Canterbury seven on the head of Wellington six and a

1859
01:37:22,867 --> 01:37:27,267
Speaker 2: half minutes gone at Jerry Collins Stadium in pottydoer. Following

1860
01:37:27,307 --> 01:37:30,267
Speaker 2: this match, it's Southland v O Targo, one of the

1861
01:37:30,347 --> 01:37:35,187
Speaker 2: oldest rugby rivalries in our domestic game, commonly referred to

1862
01:37:35,467 --> 01:37:40,987
Speaker 2: as Stag Day, and they'll be flocking in to Rugby

1863
01:37:41,067 --> 01:37:43,827
Speaker 2: Parking in Viicago and they are huge numbers to take

1864
01:37:43,907 --> 01:37:47,467
Speaker 2: part in the latest edition of that. Jason Rutlis will

1865
01:37:47,467 --> 01:37:49,067
Speaker 2: be among them. He's going to chat to us right

1866
01:37:49,067 --> 01:37:49,347
Speaker 2: after this.

1867
01:37:50,107 --> 01:37:53,627
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1868
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1869
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1870
01:37:58,947 --> 01:38:02,107
Speaker 2: They'd be news Dogs. Two twenty five, the Tunney far

1871
01:38:02,387 --> 01:38:06,587
Speaker 2: open their NPC season by challenging for the Ranfurly Shields Night.

1872
01:38:06,667 --> 01:38:09,867
Speaker 2: They are in New Plymouth to take on Taranaki Chiefs.

1873
01:38:10,027 --> 01:38:12,747
Speaker 2: Loose forward Simon Parker going to pack down on the

1874
01:38:12,787 --> 01:38:15,787
Speaker 2: back of the scrum for Northland and he joins us now,

1875
01:38:15,827 --> 01:38:17,867
Speaker 2: thanks for taking our call on match day, Simon. How's

1876
01:38:17,907 --> 01:38:20,707
Speaker 2: the prep been in the Northland camp for tonight's shield challenge?

1877
01:38:21,547 --> 01:38:21,947
Speaker 12: Yeah good?

1878
01:38:21,987 --> 01:38:23,147
Speaker 11: Any thanks for having me on.

1879
01:38:26,627 --> 01:38:28,667
Speaker 12: So I've just been focusing on ourselves, I guess, and

1880
01:38:28,787 --> 01:38:29,347
Speaker 12: trying to get.

1881
01:38:29,227 --> 01:38:29,787
Speaker 9: Out at the fright.

1882
01:38:30,867 --> 01:38:31,067
Speaker 16: Yeah.

1883
01:38:31,547 --> 01:38:34,187
Speaker 2: All said to go just before we look at tonight.

1884
01:38:34,427 --> 01:38:36,227
Speaker 2: Your injury that kept you out of the back end

1885
01:38:36,307 --> 01:38:39,787
Speaker 2: of the Super Rugby season, that's all come right now?

1886
01:38:39,827 --> 01:38:40,827
Speaker 2: Are you back one hundred percent?

1887
01:38:41,627 --> 01:38:43,147
Speaker 11: Yeah, yeah, good to go.

1888
01:38:43,467 --> 01:38:47,987
Speaker 12: Thankfully spent Joady my rear sting a chief sex to

1889
01:38:48,187 --> 01:38:49,947
Speaker 12: just getting it right and then sort of once I

1890
01:38:50,067 --> 01:38:53,947
Speaker 12: was good to team train his home and yeah, it's

1891
01:38:53,947 --> 01:38:55,427
Speaker 12: been with the Tony's boys, it's been good.

1892
01:38:55,627 --> 01:38:57,227
Speaker 2: What was the exact nature of the injury?

1893
01:38:58,707 --> 01:39:02,947
Speaker 12: Ah, so it was a low ankle spraying with a

1894
01:39:02,987 --> 01:39:04,387
Speaker 12: bit of figh Englishman as well.

1895
01:39:04,467 --> 01:39:09,267
Speaker 2: But yeah, how gutting was it to miss the back

1896
01:39:09,347 --> 01:39:09,947
Speaker 2: end of the season.

1897
01:39:14,267 --> 01:39:17,947
Speaker 12: Yeah, I suppose initially was was pretty tough to take,

1898
01:39:18,027 --> 01:39:21,827
Speaker 12: but I've been injured enough to know a bad attitude

1899
01:39:21,867 --> 01:39:24,347
Speaker 12: sort of gets you know where in forty so sort

1900
01:39:24,387 --> 01:39:27,707
Speaker 12: of just had to cop it and do anything I

1901
01:39:27,787 --> 01:39:29,947
Speaker 12: sort of could to help the other boys prepare for

1902
01:39:30,867 --> 01:39:32,107
Speaker 12: what was the CME.

1903
01:39:32,067 --> 01:39:35,467
Speaker 2: In the final and obviously didn't quite get across the line.

1904
01:39:35,547 --> 01:39:37,827
Speaker 2: But can you look back on the season with a

1905
01:39:38,187 --> 01:39:39,227
Speaker 2: degree of pride again?

1906
01:39:40,867 --> 01:39:44,227
Speaker 12: Yeah, yeah, one hundred percent. There's plenty of innovation and

1907
01:39:44,307 --> 01:39:47,467
Speaker 12: stuff we wanted to tick off at the start of

1908
01:39:47,467 --> 01:39:49,667
Speaker 12: the year that we talked about, and I think for

1909
01:39:49,747 --> 01:39:52,387
Speaker 12: the most part we achieved that and obviously just tripped

1910
01:39:52,427 --> 01:39:55,947
Speaker 12: over at the final stage and you know, Crusaders with

1911
01:39:56,107 --> 01:39:58,067
Speaker 12: a better team on the night and thoroughly deserved it

1912
01:39:58,147 --> 01:39:59,627
Speaker 12: so well.

1913
01:39:59,627 --> 01:40:01,587
Speaker 2: The nature of MPC is that you all split off

1914
01:40:01,627 --> 01:40:04,027
Speaker 2: now into your province's a couple of chief teammates and

1915
01:40:04,067 --> 01:40:07,147
Speaker 2: the tadler lucky side tonight. Josh Jacobs there, Daniel Rona,

1916
01:40:07,227 --> 01:40:08,987
Speaker 2: Caleb Bush is in the eight jersey for them. You're

1917
01:40:09,027 --> 01:40:10,187
Speaker 2: keen to give them a bit of a tickler.

1918
01:40:11,907 --> 01:40:13,507
Speaker 12: Yeah, I had to receive Friday.

1919
01:40:14,907 --> 01:40:15,307
Speaker 2: Brilliant.

1920
01:40:15,947 --> 01:40:16,187
Speaker 11: Look.

1921
01:40:16,787 --> 01:40:18,467
Speaker 12: I'll be the first to put my head up and

1922
01:40:18,507 --> 01:40:20,707
Speaker 12: say I'd love to put one of their robes for sure.

1923
01:40:21,947 --> 01:40:23,587
Speaker 2: It was what's it like when you when you all

1924
01:40:23,627 --> 01:40:26,067
Speaker 2: sort of disperse because you know these guys so well, right,

1925
01:40:26,107 --> 01:40:28,267
Speaker 2: you spend you know, a huge part of the first

1926
01:40:28,307 --> 01:40:30,467
Speaker 2: half of the year with them. Do you do you

1927
01:40:30,547 --> 01:40:33,347
Speaker 2: go out there with any extra determination when you're playing

1928
01:40:33,387 --> 01:40:36,107
Speaker 2: against your super rugby teammates for your province.

1929
01:40:39,347 --> 01:40:42,587
Speaker 12: Nah, not particularly. I don't think I don't I overly

1930
01:40:43,307 --> 01:40:45,267
Speaker 12: go into a rock any harder or anything. I'm just

1931
01:40:45,347 --> 01:40:49,587
Speaker 12: trying to I guess, just not anyone that's in front

1932
01:40:49,587 --> 01:40:52,187
Speaker 12: of me, and then you might giggle at the bottom

1933
01:40:52,227 --> 01:40:54,067
Speaker 12: of a breakdown or something else you're run into them.

1934
01:40:54,147 --> 01:40:59,627
Speaker 2: But yeah, how happy were you with your Super Rugby season?

1935
01:41:01,387 --> 01:41:05,147
Speaker 12: Uh? Yeah, Like I said before, I was injured for

1936
01:41:06,507 --> 01:41:07,907
Speaker 12: quite a lot at the start of my career, so

1937
01:41:08,667 --> 01:41:12,187
Speaker 12: just getting back to back games and minutes together was

1938
01:41:12,267 --> 01:41:16,867
Speaker 12: quite roaring. And yeah, just I guess I was on

1939
01:41:16,947 --> 01:41:19,747
Speaker 12: to performance when there's any certain stuff you can work

1940
01:41:19,827 --> 01:41:21,387
Speaker 12: on when you're out in the middle.

1941
01:41:21,467 --> 01:41:24,907
Speaker 2: So well, I mean, yeah, I mean you are being

1942
01:41:25,027 --> 01:41:27,507
Speaker 2: very humble, and I think that's a quality of yours.

1943
01:41:27,587 --> 01:41:30,787
Speaker 2: But everybody was just so I'm pressed. You talked about

1944
01:41:30,867 --> 01:41:34,987
Speaker 2: in All Blacks discussions. Had you had any discussions or

1945
01:41:35,027 --> 01:41:37,747
Speaker 2: conversations with anybody from the All Blacks during the Super

1946
01:41:37,827 --> 01:41:38,387
Speaker 2: Rugby season.

1947
01:41:40,307 --> 01:41:45,387
Speaker 12: No, just obviously they come around at different times throughout

1948
01:41:45,427 --> 01:41:48,507
Speaker 12: the season and sort of just sort of casual chats

1949
01:41:48,787 --> 01:41:52,107
Speaker 12: as they come through. And then when I got injured,

1950
01:41:53,107 --> 01:41:55,187
Speaker 12: Razor just gave me a quick call just to check

1951
01:41:55,267 --> 01:41:57,107
Speaker 12: up was all good and where the headspace was and

1952
01:41:58,267 --> 01:42:01,507
Speaker 12: that kind of thing. But nothing out of the ordinary.

1953
01:42:02,067 --> 01:42:04,827
Speaker 2: You've got ambition to wear that black jersey oh one.

1954
01:42:07,347 --> 01:42:10,347
Speaker 12: You know, I guess everyone and playing in New Zealand

1955
01:42:10,627 --> 01:42:13,907
Speaker 12: sort of has that dream to put the black jersey on,

1956
01:42:14,027 --> 01:42:17,987
Speaker 12: and mine's no difference. So yeah, that's the aspirations for sure.

1957
01:42:18,347 --> 01:42:19,947
Speaker 2: And number eight for the tunny fart tonight.

1958
01:42:20,027 --> 01:42:20,387
Speaker 1: Are you what?

1959
01:42:20,987 --> 01:42:22,467
Speaker 2: We've seen you at six, we've seen you at eight

1960
01:42:22,627 --> 01:42:24,707
Speaker 2: even seven on occasion. Do you have a preference?

1961
01:42:26,867 --> 01:42:29,267
Speaker 12: Definitely, end all the question, Barny, I get us that

1962
01:42:29,387 --> 01:42:32,107
Speaker 12: quite a lot, to be honest, but I'm not too

1963
01:42:32,147 --> 01:42:34,227
Speaker 12: faced personally. Just as long as there's a jersey on

1964
01:42:34,267 --> 01:42:37,267
Speaker 12: my back, I just sort of yeah, it doesn't change

1965
01:42:37,307 --> 01:42:42,187
Speaker 12: the way I play by any means. Yeah, I do

1966
01:42:42,387 --> 01:42:46,307
Speaker 12: quite long mixed enough, I guess traditionally tend to get

1967
01:42:46,307 --> 01:42:48,267
Speaker 12: a bit more sort of line out stuff if you're

1968
01:42:48,267 --> 01:42:51,267
Speaker 12: at six, and then a bit more defense focus if

1969
01:42:51,267 --> 01:42:54,227
Speaker 12: you're at seven, So I don't mind changing it up sometimes.

1970
01:42:54,267 --> 01:42:56,107
Speaker 2: A time I was just trying to work out whether

1971
01:42:56,147 --> 01:42:58,307
Speaker 2: you won the Shield when you were playing for Whitecato.

1972
01:42:58,387 --> 01:42:59,667
Speaker 2: I don't think you did. Did you have you ever

1973
01:42:59,707 --> 01:43:00,227
Speaker 2: won the Shield?

1974
01:43:00,947 --> 01:43:00,987
Speaker 20: No?

1975
01:43:01,307 --> 01:43:07,707
Speaker 12: No, Unfortunately now we had a decent lead twenty nineteen,

1976
01:43:07,747 --> 01:43:10,507
Speaker 12: I think it was, but I didn't quite get the

1977
01:43:10,587 --> 01:43:10,907
Speaker 12: job done.

1978
01:43:10,987 --> 01:43:12,627
Speaker 2: Unfortunately, jo I'm glad I brought that up.

1979
01:43:15,307 --> 01:43:16,987
Speaker 12: It was a good startup for tonight.

1980
01:43:17,427 --> 01:43:20,347
Speaker 2: Absolutely all right mate, Well I hope you get your

1981
01:43:20,387 --> 01:43:22,267
Speaker 2: hands on the log tonight. Great to see you back

1982
01:43:22,307 --> 01:43:24,627
Speaker 2: out there are no all rugby fans that are just

1983
01:43:24,707 --> 01:43:27,267
Speaker 2: delighted to see you back on the field. Hope. It's

1984
01:43:27,267 --> 01:43:29,067
Speaker 2: a great MPC for you made in that black jersey.

1985
01:43:29,067 --> 01:43:30,267
Speaker 2: I'm sure isn't too far away.

1986
01:43:30,907 --> 01:43:32,387
Speaker 12: Yeah, wicked, Thanks very much, Borny, No.

1987
01:43:32,467 --> 01:43:35,427
Speaker 2: Thank you, Simon, Simon Parker there out of the Chiefs,

1988
01:43:35,427 --> 01:43:38,707
Speaker 2: what a character. So up against Taradaki tonight they're the

1989
01:43:38,747 --> 01:43:41,947
Speaker 2: shield holders of course. Five past seven. Josh Jacob is

1990
01:43:41,987 --> 01:43:44,747
Speaker 2: going to run the cutter in the ten jersey for Tadanhaka.

1991
01:43:44,787 --> 01:43:46,907
Speaker 2: He joins us. Now, how's your built up being Josh

1992
01:43:47,747 --> 01:43:50,187
Speaker 2: the for the Amber and Blacks in PC season?

1993
01:43:50,667 --> 01:43:54,267
Speaker 21: Yeah, no, thanks for having me mate. Yeah, the prep's

1994
01:43:54,307 --> 01:43:57,147
Speaker 21: been good. We've had a good couple of weeks of

1995
01:43:58,147 --> 01:44:02,667
Speaker 21: preseason getting all the super boys back and Maudy all

1996
01:44:02,707 --> 01:44:05,747
Speaker 21: Blacks back along with our club boys. So just a

1997
01:44:05,907 --> 01:44:11,227
Speaker 21: good last couple of weeks connecting as a group and yeah,

1998
01:44:11,307 --> 01:44:14,907
Speaker 21: looking forward to looking forward to kicking things off tonight.

1999
01:44:15,347 --> 01:44:17,667
Speaker 2: Ye had the Shield game against Thames Valley a couple

2000
01:44:17,707 --> 01:44:19,667
Speaker 2: of weeks ago. You played in that game. Was that

2001
01:44:19,747 --> 01:44:21,467
Speaker 2: your first game since the end of Super Rugby?

2002
01:44:22,387 --> 01:44:26,307
Speaker 21: Yep, that was my first game. So yeah, just love

2003
01:44:26,427 --> 01:44:30,787
Speaker 21: being back in the Ambra and Black colors and back

2004
01:44:30,827 --> 01:44:31,467
Speaker 21: home in the neck.

2005
01:44:31,547 --> 01:44:31,867
Speaker 9: You just.

2006
01:44:33,347 --> 01:44:37,107
Speaker 21: Pretty fortunate to have a pretty similar group of players

2007
01:44:37,187 --> 01:44:40,267
Speaker 21: and coaching stuff for the last couple of years, so

2008
01:44:41,187 --> 01:44:44,747
Speaker 21: almost felt like we're able to pick things up from

2009
01:44:44,787 --> 01:44:47,427
Speaker 21: where we left off in the last last year or two.

2010
01:44:47,707 --> 01:44:50,147
Speaker 2: I want to talk about the game tonight in the moment,

2011
01:44:50,227 --> 01:44:52,547
Speaker 2: but as far as the chief season is concerned, big

2012
01:44:52,667 --> 01:44:56,107
Speaker 2: season for you, Josh. You played all seventeen games, a

2013
01:44:56,147 --> 01:44:57,707
Speaker 2: mix of starts and off the bench. How do you

2014
01:44:57,787 --> 01:44:59,507
Speaker 2: assess the season with the Chiefs?

2015
01:45:00,267 --> 01:45:03,307
Speaker 21: It was an awesome season. Initially set the goal out

2016
01:45:03,427 --> 01:45:08,027
Speaker 21: to hopefully be playing and each of those games, which

2017
01:45:08,427 --> 01:45:10,147
Speaker 21: maybe at the side of the year could have seen

2018
01:45:10,507 --> 01:45:12,947
Speaker 21: a bit unrealistic or a bit far.

2019
01:45:14,947 --> 01:45:15,587
Speaker 9: Fast stretch.

2020
01:45:15,747 --> 01:45:20,867
Speaker 21: So yeah, pretty pleased to be out there amongst the

2021
01:45:21,187 --> 01:45:25,267
Speaker 21: boys and going to work every week with an awesome

2022
01:45:25,307 --> 01:45:30,227
Speaker 21: group of lads and coaches. So very grateful for all

2023
01:45:30,267 --> 01:45:35,427
Speaker 21: the opportunities that presented themselves in the season and as

2024
01:45:35,467 --> 01:45:37,667
Speaker 21: you know, unfortunately just couldn't get across the line at

2025
01:45:37,707 --> 01:45:43,867
Speaker 21: the end. There but plenty of motivation leading into next

2026
01:45:43,947 --> 01:45:47,627
Speaker 21: year once once it's time to turn focus back to

2027
01:45:47,907 --> 01:45:48,547
Speaker 21: super Ugly.

2028
01:45:49,347 --> 01:45:51,587
Speaker 2: Did you get more opportunities than you thought you would?

2029
01:45:54,747 --> 01:46:01,067
Speaker 21: Yeah, potentially, I think. I think within that there's kind

2030
01:46:01,067 --> 01:46:05,147
Speaker 21: of been a few I guess things that kind of

2031
01:46:05,867 --> 01:46:09,707
Speaker 21: went my Unfortunately for my teammates that was at the

2032
01:46:10,547 --> 01:46:14,587
Speaker 21: expense of a couple of injuries. So I think I

2033
01:46:14,747 --> 01:46:17,747
Speaker 21: know that if the team was healthy and fit, there

2034
01:46:17,747 --> 01:46:20,667
Speaker 21: could have been a bit more experimenting and trying out

2035
01:46:20,707 --> 01:46:27,107
Speaker 21: different combinations, which is expected and just guess one of

2036
01:46:27,147 --> 01:46:32,227
Speaker 21: those things and rugby might not play every week. But yeah,

2037
01:46:32,827 --> 01:46:35,147
Speaker 21: I think to answer the question bluntly, I think I

2038
01:46:35,427 --> 01:46:38,267
Speaker 21: was a little surprised, but like I said before, very

2039
01:46:38,867 --> 01:46:39,867
Speaker 21: very grateful as well.

2040
01:46:40,107 --> 01:46:43,187
Speaker 2: All right, so into in PC mode now with Taranaki

2041
01:46:43,387 --> 01:46:46,707
Speaker 2: and ran fully shield mode of course as well. How

2042
01:46:46,747 --> 01:46:49,307
Speaker 2: big an incentive is keeping hold of that log of

2043
01:46:49,347 --> 01:46:50,507
Speaker 2: war every time you play at home?

2044
01:46:51,507 --> 01:46:52,587
Speaker 9: Yeah, I think it's huge.

2045
01:46:54,067 --> 01:46:55,947
Speaker 21: Put the shield to a side for a second, like

2046
01:46:56,067 --> 01:46:59,267
Speaker 21: you never want to lose at home. Home should be

2047
01:46:59,347 --> 01:47:03,507
Speaker 21: a place that I think other team should fear to

2048
01:47:03,587 --> 01:47:07,947
Speaker 21: come play. So but then saying with the shield, it's

2049
01:47:08,027 --> 01:47:15,427
Speaker 21: just a extra bit of I guess motivation or yeah,

2050
01:47:15,507 --> 01:47:18,547
Speaker 21: motivation within the group, and we want to pay respect

2051
01:47:18,587 --> 01:47:21,747
Speaker 21: to the Shield as well. It's sort of very large

2052
01:47:21,787 --> 01:47:26,067
Speaker 21: and rich history. So putting out a performance both us

2053
01:47:26,147 --> 01:47:31,147
Speaker 21: as a group and I guess us as a group

2054
01:47:31,227 --> 01:47:35,027
Speaker 21: can be proud of, but also within that, putting in

2055
01:47:35,147 --> 01:47:38,067
Speaker 21: a performance that's worthy of a of a Shield defense

2056
01:47:38,147 --> 01:47:39,067
Speaker 21: or a Shield challenge.

2057
01:47:39,467 --> 01:47:42,667
Speaker 2: All things being equal, you should beat Northland tonight, your

2058
01:47:42,707 --> 01:47:45,387
Speaker 2: favorites to do so you're at home and the shields

2059
01:47:45,387 --> 01:47:47,267
Speaker 2: on the line, all that sort of thing. But are

2060
01:47:47,387 --> 01:47:49,627
Speaker 2: you aware of the threat that they will present you tonight?

2061
01:47:50,627 --> 01:47:50,787
Speaker 11: Yeah.

2062
01:47:54,107 --> 01:47:57,227
Speaker 21: I mean they've they've always had a good squad and

2063
01:47:58,427 --> 01:48:00,747
Speaker 21: they've got some new signings as well, So they've got

2064
01:48:00,787 --> 01:48:04,867
Speaker 21: some big players in their crew that have been around

2065
01:48:04,907 --> 01:48:10,187
Speaker 21: for a while, likes Simon Parker and Rivers and Sam Knox.

2066
01:48:10,347 --> 01:48:12,987
Speaker 21: So I've got a lot of flare and a lot

2067
01:48:13,027 --> 01:48:16,947
Speaker 21: of experience all over the park, and I think there's

2068
01:48:17,067 --> 01:48:20,747
Speaker 21: quite similar to us in a sense. There players that

2069
01:48:20,827 --> 01:48:23,867
Speaker 21: will roll the sleeves up and be prepared to go

2070
01:48:24,067 --> 01:48:28,187
Speaker 21: for eighty minutes or however long it takes to get

2071
01:48:28,227 --> 01:48:31,827
Speaker 21: a result. So we know the challenger that lies ahead

2072
01:48:31,907 --> 01:48:36,027
Speaker 21: of us tonight. But we're I think we're in a

2073
01:48:36,067 --> 01:48:38,987
Speaker 21: good spot. I know we're in a good spot, boys

2074
01:48:39,027 --> 01:48:42,507
Speaker 21: of Physsens. So yeah, looking forward to it getting underwear.

2075
01:48:42,467 --> 01:48:45,467
Speaker 2: In Stadium Taranaki, the old Yero stadium. Of course, we

2076
01:48:45,627 --> 01:48:48,547
Speaker 2: know it pretty well. Is it completely refurbished now, Josh?

2077
01:48:48,627 --> 01:48:50,507
Speaker 2: Has it all done? Because it was sort of delayed

2078
01:48:50,547 --> 01:48:52,907
Speaker 2: for a while, wasn't it in half finished? Does it

2079
01:48:52,987 --> 01:48:54,147
Speaker 2: completely refurbish now?

2080
01:48:55,107 --> 01:48:55,267
Speaker 16: Yeah?

2081
01:48:55,347 --> 01:49:01,227
Speaker 21: All finished up? The stand up and rolling. So yeah,

2082
01:49:01,307 --> 01:49:03,947
Speaker 21: I remember when I first came down to the neck

2083
01:49:04,027 --> 01:49:09,387
Speaker 21: in twenty nineteen. I guess that got everyone got told

2084
01:49:09,467 --> 01:49:14,347
Speaker 21: it was no longer able to be used. So there

2085
01:49:14,427 --> 01:49:16,547
Speaker 21: was a few few years there where I thought I

2086
01:49:16,667 --> 01:49:20,307
Speaker 21: might not ever see a stand up. So awesome to

2087
01:49:20,387 --> 01:49:25,227
Speaker 21: have that up and hopefully the community just as keen

2088
01:49:25,307 --> 01:49:29,787
Speaker 21: to see it up and running again. So hopefully looking

2089
01:49:29,827 --> 01:49:31,427
Speaker 21: forward to a big crowd tonight.

2090
01:49:31,227 --> 01:49:32,907
Speaker 2: And I'm sure they'll turn up for you mate. Hey,

2091
01:49:33,147 --> 01:49:35,987
Speaker 2: all the best and the first Shield Challenge of the season.

2092
01:49:36,067 --> 01:49:39,387
Speaker 2: First well n PC Shield Challenge anyway, first MPC game.

2093
01:49:39,467 --> 01:49:40,867
Speaker 2: Appreciate you taking the time for a chat.

2094
01:49:40,947 --> 01:49:43,187
Speaker 21: Josh cheers, Matte, appreciate your time.

2095
01:49:43,267 --> 01:49:45,787
Speaker 2: No, I appreciate your Shosh. Thanks indeed, Josh Jacob the

2096
01:49:45,947 --> 01:49:48,507
Speaker 2: very level headed first five running the cutter for Tadanhaky

2097
01:49:48,547 --> 01:49:51,667
Speaker 2: tonight in their Shield defense against the Northland Tune If

2098
01:49:51,787 --> 01:49:54,627
Speaker 2: Peters is on text just started raining here in New Plymouth, Piney.

2099
01:49:55,267 --> 01:49:59,307
Speaker 2: I'm not sure who that would benefit. I guess maybe Northland.

2100
01:49:59,347 --> 01:50:01,827
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know. Seven oh five tonight

2101
01:50:01,987 --> 01:50:05,227
Speaker 2: Ranfieldy Shield, Rugby, Goldsport and iHeartRadio is where you will

2102
01:50:05,307 --> 01:50:08,587
Speaker 2: find the commentary. We have an all meantime between Wellington

2103
01:50:08,947 --> 01:50:14,347
Speaker 2: and Canterbury at Jerry Collins Stadium in Pottyder. We've had

2104
01:50:14,347 --> 01:50:16,147
Speaker 2: about half an hour there. We'll keep eyes on that

2105
01:50:16,267 --> 01:50:19,267
Speaker 2: for you. Jason Rutlich is obviously far too busy signing

2106
01:50:19,307 --> 01:50:23,907
Speaker 2: autographs and getting selfies with the Southland Stags. Faithful but

2107
01:50:24,027 --> 01:50:26,227
Speaker 2: off the bench in his place, not a bad replacement

2108
01:50:26,467 --> 01:50:29,307
Speaker 2: host of the muster on Hakanue, Andy Muir, how big

2109
01:50:29,387 --> 01:50:30,787
Speaker 2: Stag day down there, Andy.

2110
01:50:32,307 --> 01:50:36,387
Speaker 17: Well To put it in perspective, Pony Southland Rugby. Southland

2111
01:50:36,427 --> 01:50:39,267
Speaker 17: has pretty much put their focus on the marketing, it seems,

2112
01:50:39,387 --> 01:50:42,427
Speaker 17: on this one game. They're calling it ten k for

2113
01:50:42,547 --> 01:50:46,227
Speaker 17: Stag Day. Now, the rivalry between Otago and Southland is

2114
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Speaker 17: immense and it just seems to be a rising in popularity.

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Speaker 17: I mean you think back, say ten twenty years ago,

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01:50:52,667 --> 01:50:55,027
Speaker 17: and when Southland played O Targo it was a given

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01:50:55,107 --> 01:50:56,347
Speaker 17: that a Targo was going to win.

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01:50:56,547 --> 01:50:57,267
Speaker 12: However, over the.

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Speaker 17: Years the Stag has seemed to gain a bit of

2120
01:50:59,587 --> 01:51:02,787
Speaker 17: dominance in the results, none more so than last year,

2121
01:51:03,347 --> 01:51:06,987
Speaker 17: claiming about the Donald Stuart Memorial Shield and on both

2122
01:51:07,027 --> 01:51:09,987
Speaker 17: teams calendar. The best thing is Otago has got by

2123
01:51:10,107 --> 01:51:13,747
Speaker 17: and now Otago journalists are getting frustrated with rugby Southland.

2124
01:51:13,787 --> 01:51:15,867
Speaker 17: It sounds as a rugby Southnd's actually set up an

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01:51:15,867 --> 01:51:19,987
Speaker 17: academy indemeeding of all places. And so there is an

2126
01:51:20,067 --> 01:51:21,227
Speaker 17: immense rivalry there.

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01:51:21,307 --> 01:51:24,107
Speaker 2: For sure, love that I love the love the niggle.

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01:51:24,827 --> 01:51:28,667
Speaker 2: So would you say that that certainly for Southland fans

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01:51:28,787 --> 01:51:33,307
Speaker 2: and for its players, that Otago is the game that

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01:51:33,467 --> 01:51:34,347
Speaker 2: they want to win the most.

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01:51:35,307 --> 01:51:36,147
Speaker 5: I was out of doubt.

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01:51:36,187 --> 01:51:38,147
Speaker 17: There's nobody else you want to be like I say,

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01:51:38,187 --> 01:51:41,667
Speaker 17: the Highlanders franchise comes into it. You got North Otago,

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01:51:42,067 --> 01:51:44,427
Speaker 17: Targo and south and of course Otaga and Southend have

2135
01:51:44,467 --> 01:51:47,027
Speaker 17: been rivals and stay Dot. I think they've played something

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01:51:47,147 --> 01:51:49,907
Speaker 17: like two hundred and twenty plus games over the animals

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01:51:49,947 --> 01:51:51,627
Speaker 17: of time. If you want to beat one team, ats

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01:51:51,667 --> 01:51:55,387
Speaker 17: Otago mainly because you know it's like big brother Little

2139
01:51:55,427 --> 01:51:58,627
Speaker 17: Brother Syndrome, and just for this game as well. To

2140
01:51:58,707 --> 01:52:02,747
Speaker 17: put it into context regarding Stags merchandise for this game,

2141
01:52:02,827 --> 01:52:04,947
Speaker 17: I drove through Macago last night. I've been in Tiano

2142
01:52:05,107 --> 01:52:07,347
Speaker 17: up for the night. Just go back to in Icago

2143
01:52:07,507 --> 01:52:09,427
Speaker 17: now and if you want to get hold of an

2144
01:52:09,427 --> 01:52:11,787
Speaker 17: adult Stag jersey, I think the only size has left

2145
01:52:11,827 --> 01:52:14,107
Speaker 17: the Rebel for example, and then he got geared this

2146
01:52:14,227 --> 01:52:17,027
Speaker 17: week was four or five excel adult jerseys. There was

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01:52:17,067 --> 01:52:20,227
Speaker 17: nothing else available there. They've said, look, there'll be no

2148
01:52:20,347 --> 01:52:24,747
Speaker 17: regalia available online at the game, sorry, because everything's been brought.

2149
01:52:24,947 --> 01:52:28,347
Speaker 17: So Stag's guest seems to just sell out just for

2150
01:52:28,427 --> 01:52:29,107
Speaker 17: whatever reason.

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01:52:29,187 --> 01:52:33,107
Speaker 2: Because this team is really well supported, wonderful stuff. I'm

2152
01:52:33,107 --> 01:52:35,307
Speaker 2: sure they'll be the odd four Excel or five Excel

2153
01:52:35,827 --> 01:52:38,707
Speaker 2: Southland fan who could fill up a jersey like that.

2154
01:52:38,787 --> 01:52:41,067
Speaker 2: I'm sure that they'll be be snapped up. I'm looking

2155
01:52:41,107 --> 01:52:43,147
Speaker 2: at the odds Andy and you probably have seen these

2156
01:52:43,187 --> 01:52:46,947
Speaker 2: as well, Otago our favorite to beat Southland this afternoon,

2157
01:52:47,067 --> 01:52:50,747
Speaker 2: paying a dollar forty seven as against Southland's two dollars sixty.

2158
01:52:50,827 --> 01:52:54,907
Speaker 2: It's certainly not a you know, a one sided contest

2159
01:52:54,987 --> 01:52:57,707
Speaker 2: being predicted here. What would Southland have to do this

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01:52:57,867 --> 01:52:59,827
Speaker 2: afternoon to go back to back in this fixture.

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Speaker 17: I think Southland's got to match them in the backs

2162
01:53:02,867 --> 01:53:05,707
Speaker 17: and the forwards algibly and the Luzies especially will hold

2163
01:53:05,747 --> 01:53:08,147
Speaker 17: our own, but in the back line as well, pretty

2164
01:53:08,187 --> 01:53:11,067
Speaker 17: much a Highlanders back line that Otago has at their disposal.

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Speaker 17: Southland obviously attracting players down here can be an issue.

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01:53:15,827 --> 01:53:18,067
Speaker 17: So there's been guys who have only been contracted to

2167
01:53:18,147 --> 01:53:20,507
Speaker 17: the union over the last four or five weeks who

2168
01:53:20,547 --> 01:53:22,587
Speaker 17: have come down. But that's just the nature of the NPC.

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01:53:23,147 --> 01:53:25,147
Speaker 17: But then another key is going to be the bench

2170
01:53:25,227 --> 01:53:27,147
Speaker 17: as well, to see the depth. There's still guys on

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01:53:27,267 --> 01:53:30,347
Speaker 17: these benches, especially here for Southlands, that we don't actually

2172
01:53:30,467 --> 01:53:32,947
Speaker 17: know too much about, so it's still a case of

2173
01:53:33,027 --> 01:53:35,987
Speaker 17: the unknown. But I had Morgan Mitchell and the Musterder

2174
01:53:36,027 --> 01:53:38,147
Speaker 17: and the Wheak Pony, and he just said, look when

2175
01:53:38,147 --> 01:53:39,987
Speaker 17: you're looking up at that terrace and you see it

2176
01:53:40,187 --> 01:53:42,947
Speaker 17: just going off of all those maroon jerseys. That pretty

2177
01:53:42,987 --> 01:53:45,667
Speaker 17: much is the sixteenth man for these Stags players. So

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01:53:46,587 --> 01:53:49,307
Speaker 17: this go either way. The yards pretty much respect where

2179
01:53:49,347 --> 01:53:53,467
Speaker 17: it is from a neutral's perspective, but from Southland's viewpoint, Mate,

2180
01:53:53,587 --> 01:53:56,187
Speaker 17: it gets no bigger than playing a Tago and the Micago.

2181
01:53:56,827 --> 01:53:59,547
Speaker 2: How's the weather, Andy Well?

2182
01:54:00,027 --> 01:54:01,867
Speaker 17: I looked at the phone this morning, I like to

2183
01:54:01,947 --> 01:54:03,867
Speaker 17: say in piano in the few of them base, and

2184
01:54:03,907 --> 01:54:06,547
Speaker 17: it was nine degrees. We left it with sunshine just

2185
01:54:06,587 --> 01:54:09,107
Speaker 17: going through Winton and the cargo of his cats and

2186
01:54:09,187 --> 01:54:12,027
Speaker 17: dogs falling from the heavens, although it is forecast to

2187
01:54:12,107 --> 01:54:14,627
Speaker 17: be nine degrees eight to nine degrees for the game,

2188
01:54:15,027 --> 01:54:18,227
Speaker 17: which for Southland in early August is actually pretty barmy.

2189
01:54:18,267 --> 01:54:20,547
Speaker 17: I've got my sons there with me. He's in his

2190
01:54:20,667 --> 01:54:22,707
Speaker 17: shirts and his shorts, so there's that nine year olds

2191
01:54:22,747 --> 01:54:25,387
Speaker 17: do down here, and I've made the prudes decision to

2192
01:54:25,427 --> 01:54:27,267
Speaker 17: have a jacket with me. I'm just in to put

2193
01:54:27,307 --> 01:54:30,187
Speaker 17: the short sleeve top away because it's in the cargo.

2194
01:54:30,307 --> 01:54:32,187
Speaker 17: It's a lot of beverages and will have suddenly come

2195
01:54:32,227 --> 01:54:34,787
Speaker 17: off fabo straight on something like that. But that's how

2196
01:54:34,827 --> 01:54:35,707
Speaker 17: we like it down here.

2197
01:54:36,267 --> 01:54:38,987
Speaker 2: Wonderful ten k for Stag Day. Andy, thanks for coming

2198
01:54:39,027 --> 01:54:40,867
Speaker 2: off the bench for us. Notte really appreciate your time.

2199
01:54:41,667 --> 01:54:42,747
Speaker 17: No worries that what's up?

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01:54:43,907 --> 01:54:47,267
Speaker 2: Endless up good man Andy. Andy Muer, host of the

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Speaker 2: muster on Hakanui and one of the most passionate Southland

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01:54:52,467 --> 01:54:55,147
Speaker 2: Stags fans you will ever find. Four thirty five this

2203
01:54:55,267 --> 01:54:59,387
Speaker 2: afternoon Rugby Park in Vicagoo Stag Day as Southland take

2204
01:54:59,467 --> 01:55:02,347
Speaker 2: on Otago seven. All were five minutes to go in

2205
01:55:02,427 --> 01:55:05,267
Speaker 2: the first half between Wellington and Canterbury at Pottido Park.

2206
01:55:07,107 --> 01:55:09,427
Speaker 2: Or Funger Porowa has sent me an email, Jason, I've

2207
01:55:09,507 --> 01:55:12,307
Speaker 2: picked all the results of the remaining games in the

2208
01:55:12,467 --> 01:55:15,107
Speaker 2: NRL and I've come up with the final positions of

2209
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Speaker 2: the top eight Raiders, Storm, Bulldogs, Broncos, Sharks, Panthers, Dolphins, Warriors.

2210
01:55:28,307 --> 01:55:30,827
Speaker 2: That's William's prediction. He's gone through all the remaining games,

2211
01:55:30,907 --> 01:55:32,907
Speaker 2: pick the winners and that's what he's come up with.

2212
01:55:33,027 --> 01:55:35,067
Speaker 2: So William, you've got us eighth. If you've got the

2213
01:55:35,107 --> 01:55:41,347
Speaker 2: Warriors eighth. Yeah, gee, that would be disappointing, wouldn't it

2214
01:55:41,387 --> 01:55:45,867
Speaker 2: After the season we've had. We wait and see. William.

2215
01:55:45,907 --> 01:55:48,627
Speaker 2: We appreciate you doing the heavy lifting for us. We'll

2216
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Speaker 2: see how that pays out over the next month or so.

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2255
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Speaker 2: to beat O Tago by thirteen plus? Which one?

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Speaker 2: Alright, so not interested in the Southland thirteen plus. It's

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Speaker 2: good money, it's good money, but yeah, all right. So

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Speaker 2: you're going with the British and Irish lines to beat

2260
01:58:29,867 --> 01:58:32,867
Speaker 2: Australia by over seven and a half, so basically by

2261
01:58:32,907 --> 01:58:35,107
Speaker 2: eight points or more tonight. It's playing a dollar eighty

2262
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Speaker 2: News talks ab back in a motor at the show.

2278
01:59:19,587 --> 01:59:22,187
Speaker 1: The scoot from the track, fields and the Court on

2279
01:59:22,347 --> 01:59:26,267
Speaker 1: your homes sort Weekend Sport with Jason vine Us.

2280
01:59:26,227 --> 01:59:30,147
Speaker 2: Talks INB seven and a half away from three Halftime

2281
01:59:30,307 --> 01:59:33,987
Speaker 2: at Jerry Colin Stadium, a sun soaked Jerry Colin Stadium

2282
01:59:34,027 --> 01:59:36,387
Speaker 2: and Potty do it just north of Wellington. Seven all

2283
01:59:37,027 --> 01:59:40,667
Speaker 2: between Wellington the defending champions and Canterbury the visitors. So

2284
01:59:40,747 --> 01:59:44,067
Speaker 2: Philly low scoring first half, just to converted try a piece.

2285
01:59:44,467 --> 01:59:46,667
Speaker 2: Seven all at the break, as we've been saying for

2286
01:59:46,747 --> 01:59:49,227
Speaker 2: most of the afternoon. Stagg Day to follow, four point

2287
01:59:49,227 --> 01:59:51,947
Speaker 2: thirty five Southland the Otago, then the Shield Challenge tonight,

2288
01:59:52,187 --> 01:59:56,587
Speaker 2: Tallanaky against Northland. Commentary of all in PC rugby available

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2290
01:59:59,747 --> 02:00:01,707
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2291
02:00:01,747 --> 02:00:06,067
Speaker 2: show and Hawks Bay against Counties Manico. Just mopping up

2292
02:00:06,547 --> 02:00:07,707
Speaker 2: a couple of things I need to let you know

2293
02:00:07,787 --> 02:00:09,627
Speaker 2: about tomorrow's show. I want to talk a bit about

2294
02:00:09,627 --> 02:00:13,787
Speaker 2: Matt Henry tomorrow nine for ninety. In this latest Test Match.

2295
02:00:13,867 --> 02:00:18,427
Speaker 2: He has become this irresistible force as a scene bowler

2296
02:00:18,467 --> 02:00:21,227
Speaker 2: for us, hasn't he in all the formats? So has

2297
02:00:21,307 --> 02:00:23,987
Speaker 2: he always been this good and just waiting for the

2298
02:00:24,067 --> 02:00:28,067
Speaker 2: opportunity for how the Bolt and Wagner to retire or

2299
02:00:28,187 --> 02:00:29,827
Speaker 2: is it a development? I want to talk to Matt

2300
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Speaker 2: Henry himself and also Dale Hadley, who had a lot

2301
02:00:33,187 --> 02:00:35,467
Speaker 2: to do with Matt Henry coming through the ranks as

2302
02:00:35,467 --> 02:00:38,187
Speaker 2: a bowling coach. We're also I got some cycling for you.

2303
02:00:38,347 --> 02:00:42,427
Speaker 2: Corbyn Strong has won the Tour de Wolloni in Belgium

2304
02:00:42,507 --> 02:00:45,547
Speaker 2: the Kiwi. He's on the show tomorrow, as is a

2305
02:00:45,627 --> 02:00:49,467
Speaker 2: man who became the first Kiwi to officiate at the

2306
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Speaker 2: Tour de France. They just completed Tour de France. His

2307
02:00:52,427 --> 02:00:54,587
Speaker 2: name is Zach Prendergast. He's on the show. And a

2308
02:00:54,667 --> 02:00:57,787
Speaker 2: big week for the Wellington Phoenix with the hiring or

2309
02:00:57,827 --> 02:01:00,867
Speaker 2: the announcement of their new coach BF Priestman and another

2310
02:01:01,067 --> 02:01:04,347
Speaker 2: big signing yesterday with CJ Bott the fifty cap football

2311
02:01:04,427 --> 02:01:06,707
Speaker 2: Ferns signing on for this season. I'll have a bit

2312
02:01:06,747 --> 02:01:08,507
Speaker 2: of a chat about the Phoenix tomorrow as well and

2313
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Speaker 2: anything else that happens in the next twenty one hours

2314
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Speaker 2: or so, we'll cover it off. Huge thanks to any

2315
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Speaker 2: McDonald for producing the show. As always, what are we

2316
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Speaker 2: going out with? In terms of a song today?

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Speaker 9: Mate?

2318
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Speaker 2: The opponey?

2319
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Speaker 18: There's something about the start of MPC, isn't there very

2320
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Speaker 18: classic grassroots Kiwi? So I tried to think of one

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Speaker 18: of the most iconic, real true Kiwi songs I could

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Speaker 18: go with, So I've gone Dave Dobbins Slice of Heaven. Really,

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Speaker 18: I think I think that's one of the more New

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Speaker 18: Zealand songs you can pack us at.

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Speaker 2: It's iconic, it's Kiwi. I think it fits the mood perfectly. Well,

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Speaker 2: I'm mate, good work, We'll see you. We'll see you tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: Tim Beverage after three five an.

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Speaker 20: Out spass Chosa stas.

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Speaker 2: Stop rowing.

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Speaker 9: When you ways.

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Speaker 20: Some chosa e STIs it happened? Chastis it happen.

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