1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,600 Speaker 1: Self driving cars are no longer a thing of the future. 2 00:00:02,640 --> 00:00:05,240 Speaker 1: In New Zealand, Tesla has switched on their full serve 3 00:00:05,519 --> 00:00:08,360 Speaker 1: self driving feature for the country overnight, which means we 4 00:00:08,480 --> 00:00:11,000 Speaker 1: will now have motorists with their hands off the wheel 5 00:00:11,039 --> 00:00:13,520 Speaker 1: potentially on our oads. Greg Murphy is a key we 6 00:00:13,600 --> 00:00:16,000 Speaker 1: motorsabalet champ and a road safety advocate and with us. 7 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:19,440 Speaker 1: Hey Greg, Hi, how are you well but a bit 8 00:00:19,520 --> 00:00:20,880 Speaker 1: nervous about this? How about you? 9 00:00:22,600 --> 00:00:24,200 Speaker 2: Well, I think you've sort of got to read the 10 00:00:24,239 --> 00:00:26,760 Speaker 2: fine for a little bit too. I think it's actually 11 00:00:26,840 --> 00:00:29,000 Speaker 2: quite convoluted and how Tesleer have come out with this 12 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 2: full self driving supervised in brackets, It does not make 13 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:38,320 Speaker 2: the car autonomous and is intended to be used only 14 00:00:38,360 --> 00:00:42,200 Speaker 2: with a full attentive driver. So I'm a little confused 15 00:00:42,360 --> 00:00:47,680 Speaker 2: by There's been sort of systems and some cars Tesla's 16 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:50,320 Speaker 2: predominantly for a little while that you know, allow people 17 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:52,080 Speaker 2: to take their hands off the wheel and bits and pieces. 18 00:00:52,520 --> 00:00:55,280 Speaker 2: But it consumes me greatly. You've got to pay for 19 00:00:55,320 --> 00:00:57,960 Speaker 2: this though, you know, it's it's a money making scheme. 20 00:00:58,040 --> 00:00:58,560 Speaker 1: It's not cheap. 21 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:02,160 Speaker 2: Is no surprise, no surprise whatsoever that it's money making 22 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:04,400 Speaker 2: scheme for Tesla, so one hundred and fifty five per 23 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:08,959 Speaker 2: month subscription for model three and why vehicles. I'm concerned 24 00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:10,640 Speaker 2: that people are going to do this because they think 25 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 2: it's cool. 26 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:14,560 Speaker 3: And they think it's you know, it's a bit of 27 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:15,640 Speaker 3: a bad thing. Again. 28 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:17,080 Speaker 2: It's like I want to be the first to have 29 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 2: it be able to drive around or have my car 30 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:20,559 Speaker 2: drive around with the hands off the wheel. 31 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:22,440 Speaker 3: It really concerns me greatly. 32 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:25,320 Speaker 2: To be fair, I mean, Tesla have got a haven't 33 00:01:25,319 --> 00:01:27,600 Speaker 2: got a clean record when it comes to the autonomous 34 00:01:27,680 --> 00:01:30,640 Speaker 2: vehicles around the world, with a few lawsuits that have 35 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:35,240 Speaker 2: taken place in various places. So the best way to 36 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:38,199 Speaker 2: be in a car if you are behind the steering 37 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:40,200 Speaker 2: wheel is to be in control and be paying attention. 38 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:42,800 Speaker 3: They are sort of saying, oh, well. 39 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:47,520 Speaker 2: This makes it easier, safer, less stressful, like cruise control 40 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 2: on steroids. To me, it sounds dangerous and very risky 41 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:53,400 Speaker 2: and it concerns me greatly. 42 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:54,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't love the sound of it. Okay, what 43 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:57,120 Speaker 1: are the rules? I mean, does the road rule that 44 00:01:57,240 --> 00:01:59,280 Speaker 1: do the road leaves here in New Zealand actually allow 45 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:01,000 Speaker 1: for you to be in control of the vehicle with 46 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:02,080 Speaker 1: your hands off the wheel. 47 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:06,520 Speaker 2: That is a very good question that I don't have 48 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:09,520 Speaker 2: the detail on it, and I'm picking based on when 49 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:11,640 Speaker 2: I spoke to you producer earlier. No one seems to 50 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:13,960 Speaker 2: know and no one seems to want to comment on 51 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:18,280 Speaker 2: it from a regulatory perspective, So I don't know if 52 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:21,360 Speaker 2: there is something written about it or not. But being 53 00:02:21,919 --> 00:02:25,440 Speaker 2: that the government hasn't seen anything in z TASN said anything, 54 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:28,080 Speaker 2: MOT hasn't said anything. Do they even know this was happening? 55 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:31,120 Speaker 2: Is it allowed to actually happen. I'm not really sure 56 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 2: of what the regulations and rules say about this. But 57 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:37,760 Speaker 2: as I said, you know, we've got enough issues and 58 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:39,800 Speaker 2: they're probably claiming that this is going to make it 59 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:42,320 Speaker 2: safe because our cars and our cameras and the technology 60 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:45,400 Speaker 2: is going to be take some of that risk away 61 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:49,520 Speaker 2: from drivers that you know, are you know that do 62 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:53,040 Speaker 2: make mistakes, aren't attentive, aren't focused, and are distracted, So 63 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 2: let's let the car do that. 64 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:57,680 Speaker 3: Well, I'm not convinced that that is the way to 65 00:02:57,720 --> 00:03:00,400 Speaker 3: go about it, you know. And again, and it says 66 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:01,400 Speaker 3: you need to be attentive. 67 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:03,440 Speaker 2: There's a whole of rules written in the article about 68 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 2: what you've got to do and what the car will 69 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 2: tell you to do if it senses that you're not 70 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:11,120 Speaker 2: being intentive. So a little bit of information and a 71 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 2: little bit of knowledge by some people could be very 72 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:16,920 Speaker 2: very dangerous if they're expecting that this is going to 73 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:20,679 Speaker 2: do something that it actually doesn't do. And again that's 74 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:23,120 Speaker 2: a problem because a lot of technology and cars these days, 75 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:25,919 Speaker 2: people understand a little bit about they rely on it 76 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:28,000 Speaker 2: and they shouldn't rely on it, and that's because we 77 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:31,320 Speaker 2: don't train, we don't prepare people for these things and 78 00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:33,079 Speaker 2: so that they understand what they've actually got. 79 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:38,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, Greg, thanks well, said Greg Murphy, kee motorsport champion 80 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:40,360 Speaker 1: and road safety advocate. Yeah. So we called the police, 81 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 1: and we called the NZTA, we called the Ministry of Transport, 82 00:03:43,720 --> 00:03:45,760 Speaker 1: we called the AA and none of them wanted to 83 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:48,440 Speaker 1: talk about this. 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