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Speaker 1: Hey, good afternoon. So there is a chance that one

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Speaker 1: of the dumber Easter rules may change in time for

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Speaker 1: this Easter. Currently, you're not allowed to buy a drink

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Speaker 1: on Good Friday unless you are staying at the establishment

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Speaker 1: or order yourself a substantial meal. But Karen macnaughty of

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Speaker 1: Labor has promoted an amendment to the Sale and Supply

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Speaker 1: of Alcohol Act in order to change that. It's being

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Speaker 1: debated today in Parliament and he's with us.

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Speaker 2: Karen, Hello, gooday, how are you?

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Speaker 1: And well, thank you. Chances it's done by this Easter.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, the debate is happening right now. I've literally

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Speaker 2: stepped out of the house to have a yarn with you,

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Speaker 2: so we will know the result and probably about an

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Speaker 2: hour's time.

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Speaker 1: Chances it passes.

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Speaker 2: I think it's pretty good. The numbers of support has

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Speaker 2: stayed steady throughout the stages, and this is the furthest

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Speaker 2: that any attempt to amend Easter rules has got. In fact,

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Speaker 2: no previous attempt had even got to Select Committee. So

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Speaker 2: the fact we've got through Select Committee, Second Reading Committee,

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Speaker 2: the whole where now we're on third Reading with the

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Speaker 2: same level of support, I'm pretty confident if it passes.

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Speaker 1: It means that you can go into a pub on

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Speaker 1: Good Friday, you can order yourself a beer without ordering

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Speaker 1: a meal. Does it also mean that that pub owners

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Speaker 1: can keep their pubs open on Good Friday morning rather

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Speaker 1: than shutting them at midnight like they do on Thursday night.

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Speaker 2: Yes, it will, And I'm look, the thing is that

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Speaker 2: on these three and a half days, that the half

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Speaker 2: day is the morning of Anzac Day, these on licensed

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Speaker 2: premises have to operate under different rules and they do

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Speaker 2: any other time of the year. And all I'm proposing

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Speaker 2: is that on these days, the businesses that are already

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Speaker 2: operating and the workers that are already working anyway can

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Speaker 2: just do so under normal conditions. It'll clear up so

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Speaker 2: much confusion for tourists that just want to have a

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Speaker 2: pint and have to be told they have to order

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Speaker 2: a race meal. I want a race meal where you

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Speaker 2: have to if you want to have a drink, It's just nonsense.

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Speaker 2: If they're open anyway, just let them operate under normal conditions.

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Speaker 1: Because I'm getting a lot of texts from people like

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Speaker 1: Nick who says, hey, we've already done rosters for the

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Speaker 1: next few weeks, and someone else says it's going to

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Speaker 1: be bad for your voting base because you normally look

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Speaker 1: after the workers who want to have a break.

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Speaker 2: What do you say to that, if this bill was

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Speaker 2: proposing what those that have failed before me was is

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Speaker 2: that we're changing the trading laws, then yeah, sure they

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Speaker 2: might have a point, but the only businesses that are

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Speaker 2: affected by my bill are those that are open and

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Speaker 2: operating anyway, so the workers are already working. In fact,

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Speaker 2: if anything, the feedback I've had from workers is that

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Speaker 2: instead of monitoring what food people have ordered, they can

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Speaker 2: just operate under normal conditions and it's better for them.

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Speaker 2: But it's a face of a rule, you know, the

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Speaker 2: fact that you're required to order a substantial meal when

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Speaker 2: a substantial meal isn't actually defined. You have to order it,

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Speaker 2: but you're not actually required to eat it. You just

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Speaker 2: have to order it in order to get a drink.

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Speaker 2: It's nonsense.

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Speaker 1: It's such nonsense. What pub are you hitting on Good Friday?

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Speaker 2: Then there's a beer guarden just small walk from my

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Speaker 2: house and Mastered in which I'll be popping down to

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Speaker 2: on Good Friday, and I might even go out with

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Speaker 2: the family after Mass. On Lisa Sunday morning.

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Speaker 1: Wild weekend for you, Kieren, Thanks very much. Kieran Mcanalty

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