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Speaker 1: Pressing the newsmakers to get the real story.

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Speaker 2: It's hither dup to see Ellen drive.

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Speaker 1: With one New Zealand let's get connected you stalk Zaid b.

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Speaker 3: Hey, good afternoon, Welcome to the show. Coming up today,

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Speaker 3: Sir John Key is going to be with us, going

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Speaker 3: to talk us through Nicky Kay passing away aged only

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Speaker 3: forty four. Health Minister Shane Ritti on the money that

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Speaker 3: he's found for fifty new senior doctors and more specialist nurses.

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Speaker 3: And also did you know that it's actually unlawful to

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Speaker 3: have a cup of tea at the hairdresser? We're going

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Speaker 3: to speak to the MP who wants to change that rule. Together,

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Speaker 3: duplicy Ellen, So Labor will decide at their party conference

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Speaker 3: this weekend whether they want to keep working on a

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Speaker 3: policy of a capital gains tax or a wealth tax.

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Speaker 3: I know they are still banging on about that. You

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Speaker 3: know what it sounds like, judging by what Chris Hopkins

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Speaker 3: CGT at capital gains tax because we're one of the

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Speaker 3: few countries in the world that doesn't have one, whereas

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Speaker 3: if we had a wealth tax, we would be one

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Speaker 3: So he's more in line with a CGT than a

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Speaker 3: wealth tax. And do you know what, I hope they

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Speaker 3: just go ahead and pick a CGT and then lose

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Speaker 3: the next election because of it. Because frankly, if this

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Speaker 3: are clearly not ready to govern yet. Because let's just

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Speaker 3: ever think about what is going on in this country

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Speaker 3: right now. We are in New Zealand quite unusual in

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Speaker 3: that we are in a prolonged recession of about two years. Now.

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Speaker 3: You have been going backwards for two years. I've been

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Speaker 3: going backwards for two years. We are getting poorer. We

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Speaker 3: cannot afford basic stuff in this country, like a decent

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Speaker 3: So what we actually need to be figuring out in

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Speaker 3: New Zealand right now is how we get this country

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Speaker 3: need now. One obvious way to make money and get

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Speaker 3: stuff built is to attract an overseas money, right attracting

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Speaker 3: What we basically need to think about how we get

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Speaker 3: the overseas money in now. You do not make it

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Speaker 3: easier to attract in capital by slapping that capital with

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Speaker 3: the capital gains tax, do you, Because who out there

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Speaker 3: to New Zealand. They're going to tax my capital. They're

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Speaker 3: so it can get taxed. That's just ridiculous. You obviously

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Speaker 3: do the opposite. You offer tax breaks. You do in Ireland.

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Speaker 3: Ireland dropped the corporate tax rate to twelve and a

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Speaker 3: half percent twenty five years ago, and that is the

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Speaker 3: amazing success story. So let's be clear about what labor

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Speaker 3: is thinking about here. They are fixated yet again with

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Speaker 3: Remember, we're in a two year recession and they're like, no,

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Speaker 3: do you know what those people who've been in a

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Speaker 3: two year recession, It's take a little bit more off

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Speaker 3: They just want to redistribute that pie instead of coming

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Speaker 1: Ever, duper Clan nine two nine.

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Speaker 3: Two is the text number. You're welcome to get involved

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Speaker 3: that standard texts fees apply. We'll talk about it later

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Speaker 3: in the program obviously Again now, the ER, the Education

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Speaker 3: Review Office, has called for a rethink of NCAA Level

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Speaker 3: one now. Its report says that the qualification is not fair,

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Speaker 3: It also found seventy percent of employers have little faith

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Speaker 3: fixing up this particular shambles is obviously the Education Minister,

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Speaker 3: Erica Stanford, who's with us now. Erica, Hello, good Erica,

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Speaker 3: Well thank you. Before we get into it, how are you,

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Speaker 3: because obviously you knew nicki Ka quite well.

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Speaker 6: I did.

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Speaker 7: She was my mentor when I came into Parliament. She

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Speaker 8: It's just it's just awful.

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Speaker 3: But she seemed reasonably healthy in the intervening years. So

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Speaker 3: this just happened really fast.

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Speaker 7: I don't know about all the details of what happened,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, fair enough. Hey listen on NCAA Level one, are

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Speaker 7: I need to make sure that we've got a rigorous,

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Speaker 7: internationally comparable national qualification that sets our kids up for success.

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Speaker 7: And this report clearly was the wake up call that

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Speaker 7: that may well be taking a look at level one

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Speaker 7: in the end it's neither of those things. So it's

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Speaker 7: not working as it is. So we will take their

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Speaker 3: If we scraped level one, do we scrap level two

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Speaker 7: I asked for this report because I knew that the

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Speaker 7: And they came back to me and said, Minister, yes,

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Speaker 7: this report says there are structural issues and while Level

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Speaker 7: I haven't got an excellent qualification, because many of those

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Speaker 3: Hold on, are you keep level two and three but

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Speaker 7: I think that's right, and I think what we're looking at.

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Speaker 7: I've already set up halfway through this year a policy

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Speaker 7: on what I knew was going wrong. This report will

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Speaker 7: now focus their attention. They've already had a briefing and

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Speaker 7: to solve these fundamental problems. But parents understand it so

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Speaker 3: Erica, why don't we just go back to IB or

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Speaker 3: Cambridge were internationally recognized.

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Speaker 7: We need a national qualification that is ours that we

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Speaker 7: can stand behind and feel proud of. Well, because IB

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Speaker 7: doesn't suit every kid, neither does Cambridge. Cambridge is exam focused.

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Speaker 7: IB is very prescriptive on all of the things you

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Speaker 7: can't be today, oh by the way, because it's international.

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Speaker 7: So those don't necessarily suit us. And if you want

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Speaker 7: to that offer it, that's fine. But we need to

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Speaker 7: it's rigorous.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Hey, geez, Erica, I don't know if I should

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Speaker 3: tell you this. We've come up with a nickname for you.

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Speaker 7: No, I died.

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Speaker 3: Shall I not tell you?

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Speaker 9: Jill? Do you know what my kids call me?

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Speaker 7: No, I'm not going to tell you.

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Speaker 3: I'm not going to you go first square as Stanford.

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Speaker 7: They call me Skerka.

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Speaker 10: Which one's worse.

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Speaker 3: Well, I'm glad I was. You're so worried you're going

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Speaker 3: to give me a telling off for that, you know,

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Speaker 3: and I've known your telling offs are quite potty, so

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Speaker 3: I was worried about it. So I'm pleased that please

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Speaker 7: My telegophs aren't potty. That's terrible, no, but wal mate

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Speaker 7: mistakes and you know that the house, the order of

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Speaker 3: Eric, Please, in the scale of what happened in the

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Speaker 3: last few weeks, I think you're really on the mild end.

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Speaker 3: I think you're okay there, listen, Thank you very much,

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Speaker 3: really appreciate your time. That's Eric is Stanford, the Education minister.

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Speaker 3: Look at that, good sort. I took it in the

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Speaker 3: spirit it was intended. Now you know you're allowed to

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Speaker 3: call her that. Donald Trump still doubling down on the tariffs.

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Speaker 3: I was kind of hoping that he might have seen

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Speaker 3: a bit of the light, you know, in the intervening

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Speaker 3: weeks and months since he said all this stuff, and

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Speaker 3: maybe some people had got in his ears and told

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Speaker 3: it's not a good idea. But now he went on

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Speaker 3: social media today and he's promised twenty five percent tariffs

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Speaker 3: on all products from Mexico and Canada and that he

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Speaker 3: will be doing this in his first day. And Off

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Speaker 3: also has said China has to stop sending in illegal

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Speaker 3: drugs across the border, or he's going to charge an

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Speaker 3: additional ten percent tariff above any additional tariffs on all

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Speaker 3: of their products coming into the United States of America. Now,

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Speaker 3: I don't know what that, whether that means like one

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Speaker 3: hundred percent tariff that he was promising plus a ten

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Speaker 3: percent tariff or just the ten percent tariff. Who knows

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Speaker 3: We're going to go with it. We'll hope for the latter.

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Speaker 3: Sixteen past four, who will take.

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Speaker 2: The White House results and analysis of the US election

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Speaker 2: on Heather Dupless Alan Drive with One New Zealand, Let's

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Speaker 2: get connected.

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Speaker 1: The news talk said b.

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Speaker 2: Sport with tab get your bet on rid bet responsibly

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Speaker 2: pay up you greedy.

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Speaker 3: That's obviously is that from the Labor Party caucus sending

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Speaker 3: me that on the Capitol Games text thank you for No.

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Speaker 3: I don't want to so I'm not going to vote

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Speaker 10: It could be a whole lot more.

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Speaker 3: NBA think I do you okay, good on you.

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Speaker 13: Thanks.

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Speaker 3: Don't tell Labor that that's how much money Trent Bolt

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Speaker 3: is making. Darcy water Grave sports talk host seven o'clock

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Speaker 3: this evening for twenty three.

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Speaker 2: Heather Duplicy Allen cutting through the noise to get the facts.

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Speaker 3: Heather Retrent Bolt Bolt. We don't realize he will give

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Speaker 3: This is what Nicky Kay was. You talk to people

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Speaker 3: five o'clock. Right now, headlines are coming up. Newstalks 'db.

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Speaker 2: Hard question such strong opinion ever, due for c Allen

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Speaker 14: The Mouey.

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Speaker 3: Like this, John Key is with us after five o'clock

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Speaker 3: That was originally the pitch of a capital gains tax

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Speaker 2: It's the world wires on news dogs, they'd be drive.

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Speaker 3: A federal judge has dismissed the election subversion case against

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Speaker 3: And finally thing's out. Hold them to the farm day.

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Speaker 3: It's from the UK. She's taking a leaf out of

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Speaker 3: Lily Allen's book, and she's going on only fans because

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Speaker 3: remember Lily Allen's putting her feet on only fans for

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Speaker 3: people who are turned on by feet, and that's how

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Speaker 3: she's making more money and she makes out of her music.

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Speaker 3: Or Kate Nash reckons that her tours actually end up

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Speaker 3: making losses rather than profits. So she's going to try

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Speaker 3: selling photos of her bum on only fans to make

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Speaker 3: some money. And she says she's a big fan of

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Speaker 3: bums and she sees them as the perfect combination of

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Speaker 3: comedy and sexuality.

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Speaker 2: International Correspondence with Ends and eye Insurance Peace of mind

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Speaker 2: for New Zealand business.

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Speaker 3: Kateson for a surprise if she thinks that the people

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Speaker 3: on only fans are just going to buy pictures of

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Speaker 3: her bums to have a laugh at them. Murriold's Oussie

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Speaker 3: correspondence with me now, hey.

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Speaker 1: Mus speechless?

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Speaker 4: Speechless?

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Speaker 3: Would you put on what's the bit your best asset? Muzz?

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Speaker 3: What would you put on only fans to make money?

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Speaker 4: The back of my head?

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Speaker 3: You reckon? Do you reckon? There's a market today.

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Speaker 4: A great face for radio.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I reckon. If you draw pictures on the back

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Speaker 3: of your head, you probably will find some people who

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Speaker 3: pay for that. Hey, so who is this National senator

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Speaker 3: getting cold feet about the social media band yet?

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Speaker 4: Look we're not sure. I mean I've not seen his

468
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Speaker 4: or her name mentioned. There was a joint party room

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Speaker 4: and there was some opposition within the opposition about the

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Speaker 4: government's plan to basically ban sixteen year olds and under

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Speaker 4: from getting on social media platforms. It didn't matter because

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Speaker 4: I mean Dunton was always Peter Duton was always going

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Speaker 4: to carry the day. And a couple of you know,

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Speaker 4: getting cold feet around the edges of the Nationals, that's

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Speaker 4: not going to worry Peter Dutton for a heartbeat. I mean,

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Speaker 4: the fact of the matter is no one knows much

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Speaker 4: about it. It's easy for the opposition to fall in

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Speaker 4: behind the government and say, look, we're protecting kids, but

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Speaker 4: are they really. I mean, you know, how the hell

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Speaker 4: is this new law going to be policed? What will

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Speaker 4: happen to the big companies, you know, your big facebooks

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Speaker 4: and whatnot tiktoks if kids are found on there. But

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Speaker 4: I mean children have been on there on television. Maybe

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Speaker 4: you're saying it's going to take us thirty seconds to

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Speaker 4: get around whatever, say, you know, screening that they're going

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Speaker 4: to bring in it's just nonsense. And other critics over

487
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Speaker 4: here are saying, what don't you take on the gambling industry.

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Speaker 4: It's making billions at the cost of a lot of

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Speaker 4: people's mental health or tax sugary drinks. It's turning out,

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Speaker 4: you know, buddy, flotillas of fat kids because the guzzling

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Speaker 4: coke all day. I mean, these are tough things, but

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Speaker 4: the government won't take on not all the opposition.

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Speaker 3: Interesting, interesting take on it. Hey, what's going on here? Okay,

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Speaker 3: So we've got the people who've died in layoffs because

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Speaker 3: they have had this mythan all. And somebody, one of

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Speaker 3: the friends is now doing their own investigation.

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Speaker 4: Why well, because he thinks the whole thing stinks. This

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Speaker 4: is a fellow who met the two young Danish women's

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Speaker 4: best friends. They met in Vietnam, and you know, as

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Speaker 4: young people do you and I did it, both of us. Look,

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Speaker 4: we'll see you next week over the border in Laos.

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Speaker 4: We'll meet up at this little place. I've heard the

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Speaker 4: backpacking hostel's pretty good. The guys got there and he's

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Speaker 4: found both of his friends are either dead or they

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Speaker 4: were in hospital. They couldn't be contacted and so he said,

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Speaker 4: hang on a second, this does not feel right. You've

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Speaker 4: got at least eight people dead because two beautiful young

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Speaker 4: Australian women, you know, and they were besties too. They

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Speaker 4: were nineteen years old, drunk methanol. Where they drink spiked

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Speaker 4: or was it simply a case of drinking bootleg liquor?

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Speaker 4: We don't know, but the fellow who's now conducting his

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Speaker 4: own operations says he was fobbed off given contradictory information.

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Speaker 4: He wants to find out exactly what happened.

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Speaker 3: Maz, it's good to talk to you, mate, Thanks for

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Speaker 3: running us through that. It's Marie Old's Australia correspondent. Listen.

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Speaker 3: I don't know about you, but I was kind of

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Speaker 3: surprised to hear that this. I've never heard of Kate Nash,

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Speaker 3: by the way, the singer who's putting her bum on

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Speaker 3: only fans. But I was quite surprised to hear that

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Speaker 3: she was having difficulty making money touring because I thought

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Speaker 3: making I thought that was the only way that artists

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Speaker 3: were making money nowadays, because of course they don't make

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Speaker 3: money really out of selling you know, like CDs and

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Speaker 3: vinyl and things like Back in our day, that's how

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Speaker 3: they made their dollars. Nowadays, of course everything is on

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Speaker 3: Spotify and they get such a tiny, tiny proportion of

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Speaker 3: what they used to get that. Actually, I had assumed

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Speaker 3: that they were relying largely on touring in order to

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Speaker 3: supplement their life styles a la Coldplay for example, et cetera,

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Speaker 3: et cetera. Anyway, so to find out she's not even

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Speaker 3: making money on that seems to me to be something

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Speaker 3: of a surprise. Were gond have a little chat to

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Speaker 3: Brent Eccles, who's, of course, you know, veteran promoter, a

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Speaker 3: well known, high profile promoter in the country. We'll get

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Speaker 3: an idea from him and whether it really is that

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Speaker 3: diar out there for musicians at the moment, just so

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Speaker 3: that you can, you know, if little Johnny comes to

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Speaker 3: you and he's like, Mommy, I want to be a singer,

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Speaker 3: like absolutely not to the trades with you. We'll get it.

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Speaker 3: We'll get a take on it from Brent when he's

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Speaker 3: with us. About quarter past five, Barry Soapers.

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Speaker 2: Next Politics with Centrics Credit check your customers and get payments, certainty.

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Speaker 3: Barry Soper, Senior Political Correspondence with Us. Now, Hey, Barry

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Speaker 3: good afternoon have here. Was it a shock to you

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Speaker 3: to hear that Nicki Kay had got the sun?

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Speaker 10: Well, yes it was.

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Speaker 11: You know, I think we all knew how sick she

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Speaker 11: was and when she received the diagnosis in twenty sixteen,

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Speaker 11: as John Key has said, and you'll be talking to

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Speaker 11: him shortly, that she knew that it was terminal. She's

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Speaker 11: lasted quite a long time following it. But you know,

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Speaker 11: she was a kick ass type politician. I really liked her.

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Speaker 11: She had spunk. She was the Auckland Central MP one

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Speaker 11: it over Jacinda Durn twice, so she was a very

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Speaker 11: valued member of the National Party. She was the first

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Speaker 11: and now the only National Party MP that's held Auckland Central.

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Speaker 11: And I was talking to some Greens today and they say, well,

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Speaker 11: you know, Chloe Swarbrick's actually quite lucky that Nicki Kay

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Speaker 11: bowed out of politics when she did in twenty twenty

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Speaker 11: because she may not, well probably not.

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Speaker 10: She wouldn't have made it back. It wouldn't made it into.

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Speaker 3: Parlor Chloe Chloe, because Chloe wouldn't have been able to

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Speaker 3: beat her to Beta.

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Speaker 2: No.

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Speaker 11: I mean, you know, she knew how to campaign. What

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Speaker 11: I liked about Nicki was that after she got out

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Speaker 11: of politics, she went to Great Barrier, Ireland, and she

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Speaker 11: was going to build a house there and she really

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Speaker 11: liked the people, she said, because the people on Great

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Speaker 11: Barrier were very grounded sort of people, and she said

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Speaker 11: she really fitted in there. So that was a nice

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Speaker 11: counterbalance to what politics is, because it's a very rough business.

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Speaker 11: And I think probably she would reflect if she was alive. Unfortunately,

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Speaker 11: she would reflect that throwing her weight behind Todd Muller

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Speaker 11: and that very short leadership he had at the National

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Speaker 11: Party when she was deputy was probably a mistake, but

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Speaker 11: you know, everybody makes mistakes in politics.

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Speaker 3: Very hard worker. I remember this one story that was

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Speaker 3: told to me by somebody who worked in the Beehive.

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Speaker 3: It was one of the earthquakes, and I can't remember

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Speaker 3: which one it was, but an earthquake or some sort

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Speaker 3: of civil defense emergency had happened and she was already

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Speaker 3: headed out towards the airport in a Crown car and

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Speaker 3: it had hit the Mount VC tunnel and so she

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Speaker 3: got the Crawn but was the Minister I think of

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Speaker 3: emergency civil defense or something like that, and needed to

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Speaker 3: get back to the bee Hive bunker, and so she

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Speaker 3: made the Crown car turn around as soon as possible

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Speaker 3: and drive back, and it wasn't going fast enough for

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Speaker 3: the traffic, so she got out of the Crown Car

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Speaker 3: and ran to the be high in her high heels.

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Speaker 10: That doesn't surprise me. She wouldn't you consider it.

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Speaker 13: She was a very good athlete.

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Speaker 11: She ran a lot of marathons, She did the coast

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Speaker 11: to coast, so you know, she was a very fit

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Speaker 11: young woman and tragically, at forty four she died.

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Speaker 10: That's awful.

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Speaker 3: Okay, hey, sound do you like David Seymore was getting

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Speaker 3: under Chris Luxe's skin.

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Speaker 10: I most certainly think so.

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Speaker 11: He today David Simon was talking about health and how

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Speaker 11: he'd like to see I heard him on another interview

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Speaker 11: how he'd like to see private input into our struggling

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Speaker 11: public health system. And he said that you'll hear more

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Speaker 11: from ACT about that next year.

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Speaker 10: And you know, again.

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Speaker 11: That's him establishing ACT as a separate party certainly in

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Speaker 11: this coalition. The ACT leader also raises issues with the

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Speaker 11: private medical school in the Waikato being talted there. The

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Speaker 11: Hosque asked the Prime Minister this morning whether there's a

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Speaker 11: stash brewing between him and Seymour.

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Speaker 10: Over that particular score.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, which Seymour says, the initial business case showed that

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Speaker 11: the cost per student is just simply too high.

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Speaker 10: It was a fairly direct Chris LuxS.

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Speaker 11: I've put it to you who put Seymour in his

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Speaker 11: place today.

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Speaker 17: Were in the stage, are wanting a detailed business case

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Speaker 17: for that. It's important it gets a really good commercial

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Speaker 17: appraisal and run over. But all respect, David seam was

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Speaker 17: not the Minister of Health. He's the Minister of Regulation.

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Speaker 17: He needs to focus on that. Shane Ready's the Minister

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Speaker 17: of Health. And again no disrespect, I mean David's the

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Speaker 17: Minister of Regulation. They ain't the Minister of Health. And

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Speaker 17: so Shane Ready is leading us through that process. We're

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Speaker 17: making sure there's good commercial appraisal over it. We understand

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Speaker 17: you know, it's a big investment and like everything, we

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Speaker 17: want to make sure we've got more rigorous, robust business

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Speaker 17: cases and that's been part of the problem and what

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Speaker 17: we've seen and what we've inherited.

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Speaker 10: So we'll work our way through that. So that's the

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Speaker 10: white cut home.

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Speaker 3: But hold on a tack. Wasn't it in the coalition

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Speaker 3: agreement that there would be a cost benefit analysis of

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Speaker 3: it between National.

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Speaker 11: Initial one has been done, Yeah, but now they're doing

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Speaker 11: a new one because the initial one was done in

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Speaker 11: twenty sixteen and even the university itself says it's probably outdated.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, the costs of grinded's now.

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Speaker 11: They're looking at about three hundred and twenty million over

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Speaker 11: ten years and the cost per student is about fourteen

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Speaker 11: and a half thousand. So you know, they say they

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Speaker 11: want to.

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Speaker 13: Do it again.

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Speaker 3: But isn't it part of the coalition agreement between Actor

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Speaker 3: National that there will be a cost benefit analysis done

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Speaker 3: on this of this medical school, in which case it's

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Speaker 3: only fair that the ACT party leader does pipe up

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Speaker 3: about it because it's part of the coalition agreement.

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Speaker 11: But he's Luxin's taking it further with a second cost analysis,

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Speaker 11: and you know, I think it'll go ahead. I don't

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Speaker 11: think there's any question.

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Speaker 3: Well I don't know about that, but well I don't know.

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Speaker 11: I think that will And it was interesting again. Seymour

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Speaker 11: this afternoon put out a statement. Yeah, Lane claimed to

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Speaker 11: know fewer than sixty nine reforms that they've contributed to

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Speaker 11: over the past year, and you could be forgiven for

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Speaker 11: thinking that Act these were all acts reforms, and of

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Speaker 11: course they were the coalition government's reforms and that sort

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Speaker 11: it's that sort of thing.

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Speaker 10: I think that probably if you were the prime.

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Speaker 3: Which is why David doesn't get invited to the dinners.

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Speaker 11: Well, that's right, and it'll be nice to see next

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Speaker 11: year when David sitting alongside Chris Lux in the debating chamber,

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Speaker 11: probably the debate will center on that particular seat.

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Speaker 3: Interesting, Barry, Thanks very much, Barry Soper, Senior Political Correspondence

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Speaker 3: Seven away from five.

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Speaker 2: Digging into the issues that affect you the Asking Breakfast.

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Speaker 18: I watched the press conference live yesterday. I thought what

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Speaker 18: Mark Mitchell said was true, having been a beat cop himself.

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Speaker 18: The role in the power of the beat cop from

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Speaker 18: your point of view as what, well, exactly the same

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Speaker 18: as the minutes actually because I also spent time walking

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Speaker 18: to beat at Hiltland City. So this morning, the story

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Speaker 18: is that some schools will not be receiving their maths resources.

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Speaker 9: Why I'm not aware of that.

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Speaker 17: I know Erica is working really hard to make sure

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Speaker 17: everyone's got the maths resources they need.

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Speaker 18: Back Tomorrow at six am, the Mic Hosking Breakfast with

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Speaker 18: the Rain Driver of the LAHN News Talk zb.

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Speaker 3: I'd have David to dinner Heather before inviting spineless Luxen here.

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Speaker 3: The Seymour also sounds like he's campaigning and it's putting

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Speaker 3: people off when we need a team player Roy, So

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Speaker 3: split opinions there, Hey four away from five. If you're

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Speaker 3: heading to Coromandel for the summer, heads up everyone else

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Speaker 3: is this is the place to be Apparently so. Booking

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Speaker 3: dot Com has polled the top destinations in the country

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Speaker 3: for next year and out of the top ten, five

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Speaker 3: of them are and the Coromander. We've got number one

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Speaker 3: place to go in New Zealand for next year hot

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Speaker 3: Water Beach number two, Pawanui number three, Tyru a controversial.

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Speaker 3: Controversial to put tyrua below Parwanui because if you've ever been,

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Speaker 3: it's got pow and he's got one of k vibes

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Speaker 3: about it. And when I say one of vibes, I

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Speaker 3: am specifically referring to the one situation currently with McDonald's.

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Speaker 3: You see where I'm going with this? Do you see

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Speaker 3: where I'm going with this? Parwanui is like going to

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Speaker 3: Botany d but next to the beach. And if that's

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Speaker 3: your vibe, if you like going to Botany Downs by

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Speaker 3: all means go to Botany downs by the Beach, but

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Speaker 3: I would say you want to head along to Tyrus

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Speaker 3: because that's like, that's proper serf culture, that's organic, that's

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Speaker 3: fun times, that's a good time.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 3: You might even see your cinder number seven Corimandel town

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Speaker 3: number nine. Hahy. So there you go, well done Corimandal.

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Speaker 3: And do you know what, I'm pleased about that because

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Speaker 3: if anybody needs a little bit, I mean, look, there

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Speaker 3: are a bunch of regions in this country that've done

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Speaker 3: it tough lately. I'm thinking Gisbon, you know, the East Coast,

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Speaker 3: Hawks Bay, but Corimandal was definitely one of them. Because

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Speaker 3: remember when Corimandal was cut off for donkeys' years. It

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Speaker 3: was probably just a year and a half, but it

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Speaker 3: felt like a really long time and the business has

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Speaker 3: really struggled. So I'm glad to see everybody's just gonna

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Speaker 3: go in there throw their money at it. Now it's

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Speaker 3: the big old meeting happening in Wellington at the moment.

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Speaker 3: Trying to find the dollars, you know, like how they're

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Speaker 3: going to afford to do their job and run the council.

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Speaker 3: I'm going to get you an update on exactly what

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Speaker 3: is going on there as soon as we possibly can,

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Speaker 3: and John he is with us next on Mickey K

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Speaker 3: News talks.

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Speaker 8: 'd be.

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Speaker 2: The only drive show you can trust to ask the questions,

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Speaker 2: get the answers, by the facts and give the analysis.

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Speaker 2: Heather Dutless The Elm Drive where the one New Zealand

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Speaker 2: Let's get connected and Youth Talk.

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Speaker 1: As They'd be.

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Speaker 3: Afternoon. Nicky K has been remembered as a tireless advocate

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Speaker 3: and a politician who was respected by both sides, all

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Speaker 3: sides really of Parliament. The former minister and Auckland Central

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Speaker 3: MP died over the weekend at just forty four years

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Speaker 3: old after quite a long battle with cancer. Now. In

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Speaker 3: her valedictory speech in twenty twenty, she talked about wanting

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Speaker 3: to quit politics when she first found out that she

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Speaker 3: had breast cancer.

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Speaker 5: In twenty sixteen, I was diagnosed with breast cancer and

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Speaker 5: as I've said before, my world broke. I tried to

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Speaker 5: resign and the only reason that I was able to

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Speaker 5: become Minister of Education was that John Key, as I

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Speaker 5: cried my eyes out, said you're not going anywhere.

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Speaker 3: And former prom Sir John Key is with us now Hey, John, Hey,

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Speaker 3: is that what you actually said to her?

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Speaker 8: I think so, yeah, I think she think she got

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Speaker 8: it right. Yeah, look when she came in. The whole

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Speaker 8: thing actually is that that Nicki's been a very brave

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Speaker 8: little warrior the whole way along, because while she had

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Speaker 8: breast cancer, actually the diagnosis was more serious and it

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Speaker 8: morphed into other parts of her body, and so the

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Speaker 8: prognosis wasn't great.

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Speaker 1: And what I actually said to as well, I said, Lot.

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Speaker 8: Nikki, if you were married and you had a couple

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Speaker 8: of kids, I'd say to you, you know your rolling

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Speaker 8: the diecere go home and spend your time with them.

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Speaker 8: But I said, you don't. And your great motivation and

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Speaker 8: passion is helping people and doing things, and that's politics,

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Speaker 8: and you're going to beat this thing. So go and

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Speaker 8: take as much time as you need. Go and get

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Speaker 8: the treatment. I actually said to her, Lot she had

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Speaker 8: a greater oncologist in New Zealand. I see, you've got

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Speaker 8: to get another opinion and then look at some experimental

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Speaker 8: drugs in the United States. But you coming back and

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Speaker 8: that's going to give you them motivation to get through

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Speaker 8: all this. So and you know, for a very long

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Speaker 8: time she you know, she fought really.

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Speaker 1: Valiantly and did well.

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Speaker 3: And did she actually think that she had beaten it?

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Speaker 8: You know, I spoke to us three weeks ago. I mean,

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Speaker 8: on and off, it'd been always very uncertain. I mean,

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Speaker 8: you know, it wasn't in remission. She was in stage four,

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Speaker 8: I guess, and it was just you know, taking the

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Speaker 8: treatment and the drugs and doing various different things, and

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Speaker 8: you know, we'd go up and down a little bit.

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Speaker 8: But you have the way these things work. I think

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Speaker 8: in anyone that's you know, listening to your show and

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Speaker 8: understands this sort of stuff will know that it's a

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Speaker 8: it's a battle of time. If you can last longer

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Speaker 8: the way new treatments and new drugs are coming along,

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Speaker 8: then you know, you you really have real hope and

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Speaker 8: you've just got to do the distance if you can.

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Speaker 8: And so she was always on that journey, if you like.

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Speaker 8: But when I spoke to her three weeks ago, a

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Speaker 8: really long chat, and she was in hospital and she said, look,

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Speaker 8: I don't know, she said, I mean I've said a

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Speaker 8: couple of different no coologs come in and say, you know,

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Speaker 8: this is not going to en well, and we're really

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Speaker 8: quite negative, but she said her us on Colgis was

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Speaker 8: still saying, look, you know, it is one of those

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Speaker 8: things where miracle cures can come along and just take

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Speaker 8: every day.

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Speaker 19: As it goes.

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Speaker 8: But as I've sort of said to a couple of

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Speaker 8: other people's day, look, she was in a very good space.

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Speaker 8: She said to me, I'm a really spiritual person. You know,

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Speaker 8: I'm at peace with what's happening. And as I've kind

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Speaker 8: of said, you know, look, it's the life you get

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Speaker 8: out of the years, you know, not the years you

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Speaker 8: get out of the life. And she packed an awful

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Speaker 8: lot in forty four years.

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Speaker 3: Yeah too, right, John, thank you very much for talking

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Speaker 3: us for it really really appreciates Sean Key. Former Prime

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Speaker 3: Minister Heather do See Allen government is today announced forty

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Speaker 3: two million dollars for fifty new senior doctors and more

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Speaker 3: specialist nurses, minor repairs for hospitals, replacement appliances for patients

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Speaker 3: and stuff, and also new books or toys for kitties

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Speaker 3: who are in the hospital. Shane is the Health Minister.

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Speaker 6: Hey Shane, good afternoon.

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Speaker 3: Heither Shane, is this new money or is this money

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Speaker 3: that the Health Commissioner has found and freed up.

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Speaker 6: Oh, this is new places. So this is on top

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Speaker 6: of our existing baseline, and it's a combination of two things.

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Speaker 6: One it is reprioritize money and two of it's part

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Speaker 6: of the one point four billion of new money that

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Speaker 6: was put into health this year.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so where did he free this money up from?

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Speaker 3: What has he cut spending on?

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Speaker 6: So we've been talking for some period of time about

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Speaker 6: how we're reprioritizing our back office to front line without

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Speaker 6: looking to impact clinical delivery, and so some of the

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Speaker 6: savings are coming from that, and some of the funding

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Speaker 6: is coming from the new money into health.

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Speaker 3: Have we had any redundancies voluntary redundancies taken up by doctors,

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Speaker 3: senior doctors and specialist nurses at all?

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Speaker 6: Oh, it hasn't actually been offered to senior doctors and nurses.

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Speaker 6: It's only been offered to back officer this point, So

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Speaker 6: I would have to say not that I'm aware of.

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Speaker 3: Okay, have you caught up on this business going on

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Speaker 3: with people being rejected from specialists so that they don't

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Speaker 3: get added to the weightlist.

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Speaker 6: Yes, I did see that story and I haven't seen

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Speaker 6: the letter in health the Zealands looking to see that

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Speaker 6: letter as well. What they've said to me is that

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Speaker 6: as the tweitty dhps came together, there are a lot

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Speaker 6: of different protocols. Bringing them all into one place is

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Speaker 6: what they're looking to do. But certainly that is not

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Speaker 6: the policy, and they're looking to investigate their further.

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Speaker 3: Are you worried that this is just gaming the weightlist?

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Speaker 6: Well, I wouldn't be worried, of course, except we've spent

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Speaker 6: a lot of time looking at what's called the balances

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Speaker 6: to make sure all of the targets aren't gained. For example,

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Speaker 6: the shortest days in the emergency department. The challenge there

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Speaker 6: is bed block, So maybe you just discharge people home earlier,

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Speaker 6: free up the beds, and improved that shortest days an

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Speaker 6: emergency department time. Here's the thing though, if people are

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Speaker 6: readmitted inside a thirty day, maybe they were seen home early. Okay,

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Speaker 6: one of the balances is that readmitting.

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Speaker 3: So how do you then prevent gaming of a weightlist?

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Speaker 1: Right?

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Speaker 3: So, let's say I need some orthopedic surgery. You need

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Speaker 3: to go see an orthopedic specialist. They say no, sorry,

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Speaker 3: the waitlist is so long I can't even add you

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Speaker 3: to it. How do you prevent that gaming happening.

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Speaker 6: So there's several things are First of all, decline referrals

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Speaker 6: are something that's assessed by Health New Zealand. And if

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Speaker 6: we were able to see declined referrals referrals for a

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Speaker 6: level of care, which is measured messioned by what's called

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Speaker 6: a SEAPAC score, depends on you know that the level

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Speaker 6: of urgency. And our serious condition is if we're seeing

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Speaker 6: declines for SEAPAP levels, it really should be treated and

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Speaker 6: that would be something we'd print an Intention of Health

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Speaker 6: New Zealand.

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Speaker 3: Kay, do you agree with the Prime Minister that David

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Speaker 3: Seymour needs to butt out of the Wycutter Union medical School.

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Speaker 6: I am more focused on getting an updated cost benefit

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Speaker 6: analysis across the line. We want to make the right

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Speaker 6: decision with the right information. That's what Cabinet has instructed

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Speaker 6: us to do, to bring the best information together so

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Speaker 6: that we can make the best call. And I'm sure

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Speaker 6: that's actually what David and and Chris are saying.

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Speaker 3: Good stuff, Shane, Thanks very much, Shane, Riti the Health

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00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:57,400
Speaker 3: Minister Heather do for see. So Wellington City Council's had

873
00:39:57,400 --> 00:39:59,719
Speaker 3: it's big, big, big big meeting trying to save the

874
00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:02,120
Speaker 3: long plan. This is the meeting that literally is the

875
00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:05,000
Speaker 3: reason why they have got the observer there. It's to

876
00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:07,200
Speaker 3: basically make sure they can actually get this budget across

877
00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:10,840
Speaker 3: the line. Looks like the Golden Mile has been rescued,

878
00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:13,320
Speaker 3: so they're going to carry on with just basically ruining

879
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:16,400
Speaker 3: all of the ability to drive down there. The Bogonia

880
00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:19,440
Speaker 3: House is going to be demolished, the cycle Way's budget

881
00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:20,799
Speaker 3: is going to be trimmed. And let me tell you,

882
00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:23,480
Speaker 3: there's a lot of money there, so it could have

883
00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:25,400
Speaker 3: afforded to be trimmed. I don't think anyone's gonna cry

884
00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:27,759
Speaker 3: about that. And also Civic Square the money there for

885
00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:31,200
Speaker 3: upgrading the place, which is a complete shambles is it

886
00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:33,920
Speaker 3: sounds like that's gone as well. They didn't need to

887
00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:36,520
Speaker 3: save as much money. And this is the dodgy, dodgy,

888
00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:40,960
Speaker 3: dodgy dodgy dodgy. Can I underscore that enough dodgy thing

889
00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:44,960
Speaker 3: about Wellington City Council is that apparently at the outset

890
00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:47,640
Speaker 3: they needed to save like hundreds of millions dollars hundreds

891
00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:49,239
Speaker 3: It was huge. It was huge. That's why they had

892
00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:51,400
Speaker 3: to sell the assets. Remember had to sell the airport

893
00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:54,200
Speaker 3: shares because the Wellington City Council officials were like, it's

894
00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:56,600
Speaker 3: lots and lots of money, and then the money got less,

895
00:40:56,600 --> 00:40:58,319
Speaker 3: and then the money got less. Now it turns out

896
00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:00,399
Speaker 3: the money was only two hundred and eighty million when

897
00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:02,239
Speaker 3: we thought it was something like six hundred million, so

898
00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:03,680
Speaker 3: I didn't have to find that much money at all,

899
00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:07,239
Speaker 3: because hmm jeez, you can find You can can change

900
00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:11,480
Speaker 3: those figures when you're on too, don't you. Anyway, Tony Randall,

901
00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:13,640
Speaker 3: Wellington City Council will bear us after six o'clock to

902
00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:15,960
Speaker 3: talk us through all of the stuff, including how dodgy

903
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:19,400
Speaker 3: those figures were. Quarter past Hey. Now you may remember

904
00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:21,400
Speaker 3: a few weeks ago we talked about a penogree that

905
00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:24,680
Speaker 3: won trophy for Champion Pogree at the New Zealand International

906
00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:27,520
Speaker 3: Wine Show. Well has gone and done it again. It's

907
00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:30,759
Speaker 3: one an unbelievable second trophy for Champion Pinogree and this

908
00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:32,920
Speaker 3: time it's at the National Wine Awards of ALTSA. It

909
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:35,040
Speaker 3: all and there is no doubt about it. It is

910
00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:38,040
Speaker 3: the bargain by pinogree of the year and it's only

911
00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:40,080
Speaker 3: twelve ninety nine per bottle right now at the Good

912
00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:42,640
Speaker 3: Wine Code now, the double trophy winning one we're talking

913
00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:46,560
Speaker 3: about is left Field Marlborough Pinogree twenty twenty four, just

914
00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:49,360
Speaker 3: twelve ninety nine for a wine that's won two trophies

915
00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:52,640
Speaker 3: for the top Penogree Award, which is just incredible stuff

916
00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:54,239
Speaker 3: and it's not hard to see why because this wine

917
00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:59,480
Speaker 3: is bloody delicious. Think poached pear, apple, citrus, subtle spice flavors.

918
00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:01,920
Speaker 3: And if you order with the Good Wine Co Right now,

919
00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:03,920
Speaker 3: you're going to pay just a dollar per case delivery

920
00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:06,560
Speaker 3: to your door anywhere in New Zealand conditions apply. That

921
00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:10,200
Speaker 3: is double trophy champion winning penogree for just twelve ninety

922
00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:12,359
Speaker 3: nine per bottle and one dollar delivery at the Good

923
00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:15,399
Speaker 3: Wine Co. How good order online right now, the Good

924
00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:18,600
Speaker 3: Wine Co. The Goodwine Dot Co dot in Z or

925
00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:21,040
Speaker 3: give them McCall i eight hundred double six two double six.

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Speaker 1: Two keller due for see Allen.

927
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Speaker 3: Nineteen past five. Now listen. As we're telling you earlier,

928
00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:28,200
Speaker 3: there's a UK singer called Kate Nash, and she's announced

929
00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:31,520
Speaker 3: that she's going on the explicit website only fans to

930
00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:34,800
Speaker 3: sell pictures of her bum to make ends meet, because

931
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:37,120
Speaker 3: apparently she makes a loss when she goes touring. Now,

932
00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:39,279
Speaker 3: she's not the only musician to do this, right, Lily

933
00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:42,320
Speaker 3: Allen is already selling pictures of her feet on only fans.

934
00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:45,080
Speaker 3: Brent eccles is a concert promoter and is with us. Now, Hey, Brent,

935
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:48,040
Speaker 3: hey you doing I'm very well, thank you. This is crazy,

936
00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:49,640
Speaker 3: isn't it. Do you know any musicians who are going

937
00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:50,440
Speaker 3: on only fans?

938
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Speaker 19: No? I don't, but I do know a fair bad

939
00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:57,799
Speaker 19: about the economics of touring. I yeah, yeah, you know.

940
00:42:57,920 --> 00:43:00,360
Speaker 19: It's you have to have to have a close to

941
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:03,719
Speaker 19: look about what she's doing and what her costs are,

942
00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:05,960
Speaker 19: what the ticket prices are, and work out why she

943
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:06,520
Speaker 19: has a problem.

944
00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:07,880
Speaker 3: I love how you did that. You're like, it's not

945
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:10,640
Speaker 3: my wheelhouse the porn website, but I can talk about

946
00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:14,239
Speaker 3: the touring, Okay. So basically what she suggested is that

947
00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:17,080
Speaker 3: musicians don't make money off selling their gear anymore. They

948
00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:20,000
Speaker 3: hardly make any money off of Spotify, and now they're

949
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:22,000
Speaker 3: not making money off touring. But is this a Kate

950
00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:24,200
Speaker 3: Nash problem or is this a touring problem?

951
00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:27,279
Speaker 19: It's a Kate Nash problem. I had a look at

952
00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:30,160
Speaker 19: the venue she's playing, and she's playing venues around fifteen

953
00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:33,600
Speaker 19: hundred capacity, so it will be tough. You have to

954
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:38,800
Speaker 19: be very careful when you're doing that and watch the dollars,

955
00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:41,960
Speaker 19: and you have to tour to a level that you

956
00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:44,680
Speaker 19: can afford. And if you play those kinds of venues,

957
00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:46,919
Speaker 19: you can actually make money. Not a lot of money,

958
00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:48,719
Speaker 19: but I would say that, you know, have a look

959
00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:50,399
Speaker 19: at your career. Do you want to keep doing this?

960
00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:53,200
Speaker 19: Because she broke about two thousand and seven, so it's

961
00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:56,120
Speaker 19: quite a long time ago, so you know, you got

962
00:43:56,120 --> 00:43:57,880
Speaker 19: to keep it. You got to keep feeding the machine.

963
00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:01,440
Speaker 19: And there are lots of cases of artists who do

964
00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:04,040
Speaker 19: are very careful about their money. They do do very

965
00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:10,360
Speaker 19: well and can and can show the good style of

966
00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:12,320
Speaker 19: living based on that career.

967
00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:15,200
Speaker 3: Interesting that Lily Allen's Lily Allen's quite a big name,

968
00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:17,200
Speaker 3: but then again she's I don't think she's touring anymore.

969
00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:19,319
Speaker 3: So Spotify, you can't. You can't just rest on your

970
00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:21,319
Speaker 3: laurels and wait for the Spotify dollars to come in,

971
00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:22,840
Speaker 3: can you. No?

972
00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:26,160
Speaker 19: And you know Spotify is you've got to get a

973
00:44:26,239 --> 00:44:30,239
Speaker 19: lot a lot of streams. It's based on quantity and

974
00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:32,960
Speaker 19: awful lot of them, so that pay very little to stream,

975
00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:35,960
Speaker 19: so that's kind of difficult. But if they're successful at

976
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:38,000
Speaker 19: what you do and you work at your career a lot,

977
00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:40,600
Speaker 19: I think every chance will make really good money. And

978
00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:44,120
Speaker 19: I've seen lots of New Zealand musicians did very well. Also.

979
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Speaker 3: Yeah, very good point. Hey, Brent, thanks very much, appreciate it.

980
00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:48,880
Speaker 3: Brent Echos concert promoter here there. For one moment I

981
00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:50,560
Speaker 3: thought Brett was going to say that he knows a lot,

982
00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:53,560
Speaker 3: we're only fans, which could have been a very interesting conversation.

983
00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:55,760
Speaker 3: Quite I've got to talk to you about New Zealand

984
00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:58,360
Speaker 3: posts shortly five two.

985
00:44:58,680 --> 00:45:02,400
Speaker 2: Dig into the day, these headlines it's Heather Duper Clan

986
00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:06,480
Speaker 2: drive with one New Zealand let's get connected and youth dogs.

987
00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:08,880
Speaker 3: That'd be Did you know that as illegal? Well, it's unlawful.

988
00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:11,160
Speaker 3: Let's be clear about it. It's unlawful to have a

989
00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:13,239
Speaker 3: cup of tea at the hairdresser and there's an MP

990
00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:14,920
Speaker 3: who wants to change these rules. I'm going to run

991
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:17,839
Speaker 3: you through that in about ten minutes time, five twenty

992
00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:21,000
Speaker 3: four listen on on the NCA stuff that we were

993
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:22,960
Speaker 3: talking to Erica Stanford about at the start of the program.

994
00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:24,520
Speaker 3: I wouldn't be surprised. In fact, I take a bit

995
00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:26,760
Speaker 3: with you right now that Eric is Stanford, the Education

996
00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:30,200
Speaker 3: Minister's going to scrap nca level one, because I can

997
00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:32,000
Speaker 3: just see the signs of it. She was already concerned

998
00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:34,960
Speaker 3: enough to order a review. She's ordered the review, the

999
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:37,400
Speaker 3: review has come back. It's slammed NCAA level one. So

1000
00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:39,040
Speaker 3: she's got all the ammo that she needs to pull

1001
00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:41,200
Speaker 3: the trigger if she if she wants to, and frankly,

1002
00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:43,640
Speaker 3: I hope she does, because I think it's become apparent

1003
00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:46,280
Speaker 3: in the last few years that NCEEA is a massively

1004
00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:48,840
Speaker 3: flawed system. And I don't reckon this is just a

1005
00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:50,719
Speaker 3: level one problem. I think it's a level two and

1006
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:52,799
Speaker 3: three problem, but it starts with level one. So that's

1007
00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:55,640
Speaker 3: what we're dealing with. What's going on as schools. I

1008
00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:58,040
Speaker 3: had had a gutsful of this nonsense, and they're dropping it.

1009
00:45:58,080 --> 00:46:00,480
Speaker 3: They're dropping it fast. Right this year, only eighty seven

1010
00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:03,439
Speaker 3: percent of schools offer at NCAA level one. Next year

1011
00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:05,480
Speaker 3: only seventy five percent of schools, And so you can

1012
00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:08,040
Speaker 3: see this massive drop down. And the problem here is

1013
00:46:08,080 --> 00:46:10,160
Speaker 3: that the ones predominantly dropping it are the ones in

1014
00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:13,799
Speaker 3: the higher socioeconomic areas. Now, that is a problem because

1015
00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:15,320
Speaker 3: if it carries on like that, what we're going to

1016
00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:17,800
Speaker 3: end up with is rich kids and kids living in

1017
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:20,600
Speaker 3: nice suburbs and going to high dess our schools getting

1018
00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:23,719
Speaker 3: a better qualification, maybe coming out with ib maybe coming

1019
00:46:23,719 --> 00:46:26,719
Speaker 3: out with Cambridge, but coming out with a decent qualification,

1020
00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:29,520
Speaker 3: and everyone else and all the other suburbs, the poor

1021
00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:31,480
Speaker 3: suburbs and the normal suburbs are going to come out

1022
00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:34,920
Speaker 3: with junk NCEEA at the end of their schooling. And

1023
00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:36,400
Speaker 3: all that is going to do, if we let that

1024
00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:38,799
Speaker 3: continue going on for years, is going to create an

1025
00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:42,920
Speaker 3: education gap where basically you've got rich kids getting premium

1026
00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:46,120
Speaker 3: education qualifications that are recognized around the world's world, and

1027
00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:49,279
Speaker 3: then everybody else coming out with this nonsense that nobody recognizes.

1028
00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:50,960
Speaker 3: And that is not what this country is about, right,

1029
00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:54,040
Speaker 3: because this country is actually about all of us getting

1030
00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:56,480
Speaker 3: a decent education and the ability to lift ourselves up

1031
00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:58,680
Speaker 3: by our bootstraps. Now, if you're the parent of an

1032
00:46:58,719 --> 00:47:01,080
Speaker 3: NAEA pupil, you do not need me to tell you this.

1033
00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:04,959
Speaker 3: The problem is there's no consistency. So your kid could

1034
00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:07,280
Speaker 3: hand in an essay to one teacher or an internal

1035
00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:09,000
Speaker 3: assessment to one teacher, and the teacher could go, oh,

1036
00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:11,799
Speaker 3: that's awesome. Here's an awesome grade, or they could hand

1037
00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:14,600
Speaker 3: it into another teacher at another school. Teacher, but a mediocre,

1038
00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:17,839
Speaker 3: mediocre grade for you. And it says a lot that

1039
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:21,279
Speaker 3: employers don't rate NCA level one, that increasing numbers of

1040
00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:24,840
Speaker 3: schools don't rate NCEEA level one, that the Education Review

1041
00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:27,719
Speaker 3: Office doesn't rate NCA level one. I, as a parent,

1042
00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:30,080
Speaker 3: do not rate NCA level one. And judging by the

1043
00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:32,400
Speaker 3: noises coming from the Education Minister, I'm not getting the

1044
00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:35,040
Speaker 3: feelings she rates INCA level one. So I think it's

1045
00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:37,240
Speaker 3: time to scrap it. I think scrap the whole lot,

1046
00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:39,040
Speaker 3: because from where I'm sitting, it looks to me like

1047
00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:39,960
Speaker 3: a failed experiment.

1048
00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:42,279
Speaker 1: Heather Duplicy, let me know what you think.

1049
00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:44,879
Speaker 3: Nine two nine, who is the text number? Listen? Okay,

1050
00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:49,440
Speaker 3: So New Zealand Post Now, it was my friend's daughter's birthday.

1051
00:47:49,560 --> 00:47:52,080
Speaker 3: I'm not winging. This is just a factual story. I'm

1052
00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:55,359
Speaker 3: just telling you some facts. Okay. So it was my daughter,

1053
00:47:55,520 --> 00:47:57,399
Speaker 3: my friend's daughter's birthday at the beginning of the month.

1054
00:47:57,440 --> 00:48:00,040
Speaker 3: So I sent her a card like a just a

1055
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:02,840
Speaker 3: standard birthday card in a nothing in there, like, no money,

1056
00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:06,200
Speaker 3: nothing making it heavy, just normal birthday card in an envelope.

1057
00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:09,080
Speaker 3: And I posted her on Monday, the fourth of November

1058
00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:11,960
Speaker 3: and it arrived. It didn't arrive that week, and it

1059
00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:13,800
Speaker 3: didn't arrive the next week. By then I was starting

1060
00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:15,680
Speaker 3: to think I wass got a problem here. And it

1061
00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:17,600
Speaker 3: didn't arrive the week after that, and by that stage

1062
00:48:17,640 --> 00:48:19,200
Speaker 3: I was like, look, I don't think it's gonna arrive.

1063
00:48:19,239 --> 00:48:22,240
Speaker 3: But then it arrived yesterday on the twenty fifth of November.

1064
00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:25,880
Speaker 3: So it took fully three weeks to arrive. Now Auckland

1065
00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:32,360
Speaker 3: to Wellington standard standard envelope three weeks? Is that normal?

1066
00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:35,160
Speaker 3: I'm asking because I don't send that. You know how

1067
00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:36,680
Speaker 3: I feel about New Zealand post I think it's a

1068
00:48:36,680 --> 00:48:38,799
Speaker 3: redundant and useless thing, and I don't like getting mail,

1069
00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:40,799
Speaker 3: and I'm just assuming other people don't like getting mail.

1070
00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:43,600
Speaker 3: But she's nine years old, so I'm making an effort.

1071
00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:45,560
Speaker 8: But is that normal?

1072
00:48:45,719 --> 00:48:47,520
Speaker 3: Is that how long it takes now to get a

1073
00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:53,240
Speaker 3: letter from Auckland to Wellington? Three weeks? If it takes

1074
00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:56,680
Speaker 3: that long, you need to start sending your postcards and

1075
00:48:56,719 --> 00:48:59,759
Speaker 3: stuff for Christmas, like right now, or it's not gonna

1076
00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:02,960
Speaker 3: get in time. And if it takes that long, why

1077
00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:05,400
Speaker 3: don't we just scrap it and go for couriers instead,

1078
00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:07,319
Speaker 3: as they like arrive in the same week. And what's

1079
00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:10,640
Speaker 3: the point in persisting with something that takes three weeks

1080
00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:12,759
Speaker 3: to get down there? I don't know. Maybe I was

1081
00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:15,840
Speaker 3: an outlier. Headline's next News talk z.

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Speaker 2: The day's newsmakers talk to Heather First, Heather Duplicy allan

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Speaker 2: drive with one New Zealand Let's get connected and news

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Speaker 2: talk zeb.

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Speaker 3: Let me tell you I'm not the only person experiencing

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Speaker 3: the old delays with New Zealand Post. I'll get you

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Speaker 3: through some of those yarns. So many texts coming in.

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Speaker 3: What about this one? Try three and a half years

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Speaker 3: from Zanzibar to Masterton. It's a true story. However, that

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Speaker 3: could have been a Zanzibar problem. We can't be sure.

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Speaker 3: I mean between if it's between Zanzibar Post and New

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Speaker 3: Zealand Post, it's kind of a fifty to fifty as

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Speaker 3: to who dropped the ball on that one, So I'm

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Speaker 3: not sure. But anyway here that we're not rich. But

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Speaker 3: Nceea is the reason that I work my butt off

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Speaker 3: to send my two daughters to private school so they

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Speaker 3: can study the IB program. That is what's happening. People

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Speaker 3: are trying to if you, if you, I mean, you

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Speaker 3: can still live in La La Land if you want

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Speaker 3: to and be like the EA. It is great. I

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Speaker 3: love my children having a wonderful time. All power to

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Speaker 3: you whatever. But it's parents like that. Other parents have

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Speaker 3: been watching the news and seeing this stuff coming down

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Speaker 3: the pipe, and they're prepared to send their kids to

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Speaker 3: private schools to avoid it. Hither I've been doing exam

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Speaker 3: supervision for the NCAA exams. I'm astounded at how few

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Speaker 3: pupils turn up and sit the exam. Erica mayors will

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Speaker 3: scrap it.

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Speaker 20: We'll talk to.

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Speaker 3: Huddle about it. Shortly twenty three away from six Heather, Now,

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Speaker 3: did you know that it's unlawful to serve a cup

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Speaker 3: of tea at the hairdresses? I know, how hilarious are

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Speaker 3: we in New Zealand not allowed a cup of tea?

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Speaker 3: It's an offense to serve drinks in the service area

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Speaker 3: of a hairdressing salon or a barber. And it's also

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Speaker 3: an offense to bring your dog to the hair dressess.

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Speaker 3: God only knows why. National MP Dana Kirkpatrick wants to

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Speaker 3: sort all of the souturners with us. Now, Dana, Hello, hey,

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Speaker 3: how's it going very well? Thank you?

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Speaker 6: Now?

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Speaker 3: How is this an offense?

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Speaker 8: Like?

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Speaker 3: What is the law here that makes this an offense?

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Speaker 21: Ah, some age old dark age thing out of the

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Speaker 21: nineteen eighties where the health regulations deemed that it was

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Speaker 21: safe for he dresses to serve your cup of tea

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Speaker 21: or a cup of coffee. I mean, how outrageous.

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Speaker 3: But I've been having cups of tea at the hair

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Speaker 3: dresses since the nineteen eighties.

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Speaker 22: Haven't you, well the odd one.

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Speaker 21: But you know, let's not tell anyone what hedres a right.

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Speaker 3: No, I'm saying absolutely nothing. But I mean, legit, what

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Speaker 3: kind of trouble could they get into if somebody, if

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Speaker 3: somebody I don't know in uniform walked in and saw

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Speaker 3: me having my little English breakfast while getting my haircut,

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Speaker 3: what are we talking about?

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Speaker 21: Yeah, it's well, it's it's I guess it's a fine

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Speaker 21: under the health regulations. So you know that currently it's illegal,

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Speaker 21: so we need to sort that out. That's not good.

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Speaker 21: I'm not above having a glass of bubbles.

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Speaker 3: Why well, now you're pushing the boat out. Okay, so

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Speaker 3: you're not just wanting to change the rules so I

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Speaker 3: can have a cup of tea. You're wanting to get

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Speaker 3: boozed as well.

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Speaker 21: Yeah, well just the one here, the just the one.

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Speaker 21: So you know what we're saying is the spell warld

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Speaker 21: transform the Alcohols Act as well, so that you could,

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Speaker 21: you know, the heddress to give your glass of bubbles.

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Speaker 3: My mum always has a glass of bubbles at the hairdresser.

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Speaker 21: Well, now said be able to do it legally? Even better? Okay,

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Speaker 21: Now once we get this bell through, I mean that's

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Speaker 21: the problem. We've got to get it out of the

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Speaker 21: member's ballots, so it's really quickly.

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Speaker 3: What's the problem with the dog?

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Speaker 23: Yeah?

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Speaker 21: Again no idea healthp regulation. For some reason they decided

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Speaker 21: that you couldn't take your dog to the hairdresser. But

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Speaker 21: you know these days we don't really do that, do

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Speaker 21: we We take them to the pub, the cafe, we

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Speaker 21: take them to the office. Do you even allowed in parliament?

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Speaker 3: You you sit in parliament? How on earth does this

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Speaker 3: kind of nonsense make its way into law? Like which

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Speaker 3: idiot in parliament was like, you know what we need

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Speaker 3: to do that?

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Speaker 21: Do you know I'm not sure. I should have found

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Speaker 21: that out from the nineteen eighty regulation who decided that

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Speaker 21: this was a good idea.

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Speaker 3: Clearly could longer if you could and then send me

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Speaker 3: a text, I'd appreciate it. Okay, Now, okay, you put

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Speaker 3: it into that you've put it into the cake tin

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Speaker 3: of biscuiton which means that we have to wait for

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Speaker 3: the luck of the draw for it to be drawn out.

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Speaker 3: Why don't you just march on down to the Minister

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Speaker 3: of red Tape, David Seymour and ask him to do

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Speaker 3: it on your behalf.

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Speaker 21: Well, you never know, we could yet do that. I mean,

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Speaker 21: that's not a bad idea, is it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and then he'll give you the Well, he won't

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Speaker 3: give you the credit because it's David, but we'll give

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Speaker 3: you the credit.

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Speaker 21: Well, look, you know where I have that conversation and

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Speaker 21: we'll see how we get on. But certainly it's out

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Speaker 21: of date, irrelevant and we need to you know, we

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Speaker 21: need to move on.

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Speaker 3: To join I love it. Thank you very much Dane

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Speaker 3: for talking us through that. Dana Kirkpatrick, National MP for

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Speaker 3: the East Coast.

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Speaker 2: The huddle with New Zealand southby'st International Realty, Local and

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Speaker 2: Global exposure like no other.

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Speaker 3: Jordan Williams Taxpayer Union and Mike Monroe, former Chief of Staff,

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Speaker 3: to just send our doners with us. Now, hello you too, Mike.

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Speaker 3: You were around in the nineteen eighties. How did this happen?

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Speaker 9: I sure was. I can move my kids in the

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Speaker 9: nineteen nineties complaining about in CEO.

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Speaker 3: Oh well I was talking. No, I'm talking about the

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Speaker 3: cup of tea at the hairdresser. Were you around in

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Speaker 3: Parliament at that stage? Did you? Did you witness? Can

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Speaker 3: you tell us which MP thought this was a great idea?

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Speaker 9: No, I can't. The memory has faded on that one.

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Speaker 24: Okay, So I wasn't so phonically challenging those days.

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Speaker 9: I might have taken more notice, but I don't know.

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Speaker 3: Now, Jordan, did you ever work with Nicky K?

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Speaker 16: No?

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Speaker 10: I didn't.

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Speaker 25: The media release today from the Taxpayers Union was rightly

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Speaker 25: from David Farrer, who was very close to Niki. It's

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Speaker 25: extraordinary that she's that mit a piers uniw it was

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Speaker 25: terminal since twenty sixteen and has continued to work away.

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Speaker 25: It certainly put some contexts slightly differently when she stepped

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Speaker 25: up to be deputy leader. That you know knowing it

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Speaker 25: clearly wasn't for personal ambition.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it absolutely does. What do you reckon? What do

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Speaker 3: you reckon? Mike? It was that made her so special

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Speaker 3: that she was able to I mean, it's quite an

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Speaker 3: extraordinary thing to be able to say that you beat

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Speaker 3: Jacinda Ardun twice and kept her out of an electorate

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Speaker 3: like Auckland Central. What did she have?

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Speaker 22: Yeah?

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Speaker 24: It was she was somebody who stood out from the

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Speaker 24: back and she was in that sort of top tier

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Speaker 24: of high achiever as we got into cabinet pretty quickly.

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Speaker 9: But I think what maybe helps explain it was.

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Speaker 24: Something to Cinda ar Dude said today in a social post,

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Speaker 24: and she said that one great thing about Nikki Kay

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Speaker 24: was that she would judge whether an idea was good

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Speaker 24: or bad or and different based on her values rather

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Speaker 24: than just politics. Yeah, and that's a really rare that's

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Speaker 24: a rare thing in politics. We don't see that very often.

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Speaker 24: The numbers of people who you could apply that description to,

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Speaker 24: you know, you can count on the thinkers of one hand.

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Speaker 24: And I think maybe that's where she was something a

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Speaker 24: bit different.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, is that a fair point?

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Speaker 10: Jordan?

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Speaker 3: Like parliamentarians are whipped so much right now, to be like,

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Speaker 3: if you belong to the National Party, you will do

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Speaker 3: all the following things and think like a national party MP,

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Speaker 3: and if you belong to the Greens and blah blah blah.

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Speaker 3: And maybe actually there is some benefit in being unwhipped.

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Speaker 25: Yeah, I mean I can think of an example where,

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Speaker 25: for example, she was allowed to cross the floor on

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Speaker 25: an issue that's right, was something to do with Wahiki Island,

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Speaker 25: or there was a particular issue.

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Speaker 3: It was a great barrier, mine, great barrier.

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Speaker 25: Sorry, I'm quite right, Mike. So you know, maybe one

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Speaker 25: of her strengths was that sort of old fashioned electric MP.

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Speaker 3: Now, Mike, you mentioned n CEA. Would you get rid

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Speaker 3: of NCAA.

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Speaker 9: Well, yeah, look as turning into a horror show in

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Speaker 9: c A.

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Speaker 24: There's just far too many inconsistencies and you know, and

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Speaker 24: there's great inconsistencies and how schools are handling it, and

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Speaker 24: a lot of schools have already dropped it. And look,

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Speaker 24: this is our national qualification and it's got to be

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Speaker 24: consistent across the whole country because kids change schools for

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Speaker 24: all sorts of reasons. Families move towns and whatever, people

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Speaker 24: move suburbs, and so you can't have a situation where

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Speaker 24: you where the kids are going into a different setup

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Speaker 24: every time they change schools, So you're getting that consistency

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Speaker 24: is critical and the number of schools now opting out

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Speaker 24: tells me they've really got to go back right to

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Speaker 24: the the start and sort of do a really thorough

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Speaker 24: ordered of it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, what do you reckon, Jordan?

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Speaker 25: What first got me into politics was I was the

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Speaker 25: guinneap of Year n C. Twenty five years ago. It

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Speaker 25: was this and ge that and frankly Trevor Mallard should

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Speaker 25: hang his head in shame. I recall that this was

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Speaker 25: totally predictable. The whole purpose of a national qualification is

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Speaker 25: that it equals playing field. Doesn't matter if you go

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Speaker 25: what school you went to. It was that it meant

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Speaker 25: something and to see rating is O and reporting that.

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Speaker 25: Now the blob acknowledge that Level one difficulty varies between

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Speaker 25: subjects and skills.

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Speaker 10: Will no is Sherlock.

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Speaker 25: Remember the Cambridge and this was literally when my fifth

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Speaker 25: form year the Cambridge we're getting credits for picking up

1278
00:57:37,200 --> 00:57:41,080
Speaker 25: rubbish and if you great went to Cambridge High School,

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Speaker 25: you know that that didn't mean as much. The whole

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Speaker 25: point of it was was you know, so it is

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Speaker 25: going to private school. I also did Cambridge Math in

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Speaker 25: the same year I did school SEE in the fourth

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Speaker 25: form and then getting a pig first year n CEA

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Speaker 25: in the fifth form, and so it wasn't just dumbing down.

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Speaker 25: And I think that the reason we don't do the

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Speaker 25: international qualifications as it would show up just how far

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Speaker 25: behind New Zealand is.

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Speaker 3: Have fallen in the last twenty five years. Okay, we'll

1289
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Speaker 3: take a break with these two guys. Come back and

1290
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Speaker 3: just to take quarter.

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Speaker 2: Two the huddle with New Zealand Southeby's International Realty elevate

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Speaker 2: the marketing of your home.

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Speaker 3: Right back to the huddle, Jordan Williams, mikemun Roe, Mike,

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Speaker 3: what do you think Labour's going to do? Are they

1295
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Speaker 3: going to pick the capital gains tax this weekend?

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Speaker 9: Yeah?

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Speaker 24: I think we're on a inevitable sort of course here, Heather.

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Speaker 24: After Labor got booted out last year, one of the

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Speaker 24: big gripes labor people had right across the country was

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Speaker 24: that the capital gains tax had been mixed by two

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Speaker 24: Prime ministers, both to Sindra Ardern and Hipkins had their

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Speaker 24: reasons for putting that off the agenda and that's been

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Speaker 24: part of the mix for labor people for a long time.

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Speaker 24: And since the election, a lot of work's been going on,

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Speaker 24: a lot of talks been going on, and they're getting

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Speaker 24: up ahead of steam on this, and there is going

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Speaker 24: to be a capital gains tax of some form. But

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Speaker 24: my concern is that they can't do it sort of alone.

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Speaker 24: I mean, tax has got its trade offs and costs

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Speaker 24: and you know, in efficiencies, and it's got.

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Speaker 9: To be part of it.

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Speaker 24: It has to be a part of a change to

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Speaker 24: the mix of taxes. He's got to be a sort

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Speaker 24: of consolidated package of tax. Change in capital gains will

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Speaker 24: be part of that. But it's going to take a

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Speaker 24: little while yet before they hit that point of laying

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Speaker 24: out that plan, at least another year.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Well, I mean I'm interested to see what a

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Speaker 3: complete package is going to look like, Jordan. But if

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Speaker 3: they just go for the capital gains tax, I'm all

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Speaker 3: for that, because then they just don't get elected.

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Speaker 25: By mean, Paul Mike's been drinking the radio and New

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Speaker 25: Zealand kool aid on on capital gains tax. I think

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Speaker 25: it's a real shame actually that we have our opposition,

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Speaker 25: major opposition party that is going into its first year

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Speaker 25: conference having been booted out, and instead of really looking

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Speaker 25: at the fundamental questions, what makes he's the other more prosperous,

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Speaker 25: How do we stop this sort of decline of our

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Speaker 25: public services, et cetera, et cetera. They are going in

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Speaker 25: with a choice between do you want a wealth text

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Speaker 25: or do you want the capital gains tax?

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Speaker 10: That's literally the choice High Texas.

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Speaker 25: This way this weekend. But what I find so frustrating

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Speaker 25: about this debate is the way you put aside the

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Speaker 25: way that our n yet asked, you know, do you

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Speaker 25: want more taxes on X, Y, Z, and then added

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Speaker 25: them all together and said this is the number one,

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Speaker 25: the capital gains tax. But the fundamental problem, economic story

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Speaker 25: of my lifetime is New Zealand is low wages, low

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Speaker 25: productivity because we're undercapitalized. Yes, that you would tax that

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Speaker 25: very thing, Dren's is crazy.

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Speaker 3: Your argument is you need to get capital into the country,

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Speaker 3: so don't put a capital gains And.

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Speaker 25: The problem is, and this is the fundamental dishonesty of

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Speaker 25: Chris Hopkins. Yes says oh, it's it's to fix the

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Speaker 25: housing prices because is much money. There is too much

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Speaker 25: money going into into housing and not into productive as seats.

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Speaker 25: But any capital gains text has been proposed in this

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Speaker 25: country has excluded the family home. You're making the very

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Speaker 25: problem worse and white anti New Zealanders or gas light

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Speaker 25: in them rather saying we'll have the exact opposite effect.

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Speaker 3: Mike.

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Speaker 9: Now, Jordan, you're out of date. Hip can stop saying

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Speaker 9: that a long time ago. This is about in the.

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Speaker 3: Cost, So you would is he going to tax the

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Speaker 3: family home?

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Speaker 9: Heard with inequality, Mike.

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Speaker 3: Is he going to tax the family home?

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Speaker 9: No doubt it. And that's the problem.

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Speaker 24: But that's the possis text is that straight away you

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Speaker 24: start talking about sort of exemptions and objections and compromises.

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Speaker 24: I mean, a capital gains tax can be manipulated in

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Speaker 24: many ways. And that's why I say it's about the

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Speaker 24: mix of taxes. Are you're going to do this, You're

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Speaker 24: going to have to move elsewhere.

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Speaker 25: There is a fundamental shift there though, because for a

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Speaker 25: generation we've had a approach whereby the tax system is

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Speaker 25: to raise the necessary revenue at least possible costs, meaning

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Speaker 25: the least possible economic distortions. However, it's now been used

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Speaker 25: by label going back to a nineteen seventies mode of

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Speaker 25: we'll use our tax system to redistribute.

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Speaker 10: Yes, because that's.

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Speaker 25: That and under our the approach we've taken for successive

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Speaker 25: taxing working groups is the is on the spending side

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Speaker 25: of well. Often labors rhetoric, but not in its actions.

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Speaker 25: Here seems to actually be a real shift or frankly,

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Speaker 25: a shift to the left. Not just in New Zealand labor,

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Speaker 25: but and you know we're seeing the same in the UK.

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Speaker 24: It would be nice to have a point of difference

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Speaker 24: between the major parties on such a key thing. Don't

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Speaker 24: you think so many areas these days they so shadow

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Speaker 24: each other.

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Speaker 9: I think.

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Speaker 10: To be poor your boots.

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Speaker 9: Sorry I didn't catch that.

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Speaker 25: A recipe and he's yeld to be poorer for your boots.

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Speaker 25: You know, you're taxing the very thing that we need

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Speaker 25: for higher wages, for better standards of living.

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Speaker 24: Well, not doing anything as a recipe to be unfairer.

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Speaker 24: And and what do you think.

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Speaker 9: To be addressed?

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Speaker 3: Better to be poor and fair that some of us

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Speaker 3: than some of us be rich and it be unfair.

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Speaker 3: All right, We're going to leave it there, guys. I

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Speaker 3: really appreciate the pair of Thank you so much. I

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Speaker 3: wanted to talk to you about the post, but we'll

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Speaker 3: leave it for another day of go heaps to text anyway.

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Speaker 10: I'll send you a letter.

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Speaker 3: I'll see it on the other side of the year.

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Speaker 3: Jordan Williams, Mike Monra Huddle. This evening seven away from six.

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Speaker 2: Red or Blue, Trump or Harrison? Who will win the

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Speaker 2: battleground states? The latest on the US election. It's Heather

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Speaker 2: Duplicy allan drive with one New Zealand. Let's get connected

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Speaker 2: youth talk.

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Speaker 1: Sa'd be.

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Speaker 3: Raymond is a legend, Heather. On the seventh of July

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Speaker 3: nineteen eighty, Keith Hollyoaks signed the Hairdresser's Bill to bang

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Speaker 3: coffee and tea and hair dresses like thank you, Raymond.

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Speaker 3: What was going through Keith's head at the time may

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Speaker 3: what made him think that that was? You know, when

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Speaker 3: he was sitting he was like, you know what, I'm

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Speaker 3: going to sign this bill. I'm going to ban that

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Speaker 3: tea and coffee from those hair dresses.

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Speaker 1: What was the I'd love to go.

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Speaker 3: I feel like somebody needs to go through handsard, which

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Speaker 3: is the record of what people say in Parliament and

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Speaker 3: just dig out which Numpty thought that this was an

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Speaker 3: important thing. That they absolutely had to get across the line,

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Speaker 3: because what is the only conclusion you could come to

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Speaker 3: is that there must have been a tea and coffee

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Speaker 3: vendor down the road who was angry and thought, if

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Speaker 3: they don't come into if they have tea and coffee

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Speaker 3: at the handressers, and then I'm going to come in

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Speaker 3: and get the ten coffee and the teen coffee shop?

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Speaker 3: Are they? So it must have been some sort of

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Speaker 3: weird thing like that going on. But I'd love to

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Speaker 3: understand how you reach such a messed up situation that

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Speaker 3: an MPa that a Prime minister signs that anyway, thank

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Speaker 3: you for that, Roman appreciated four or away from six. Listen.

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Speaker 3: Trump's tariff talk seems to have our market immediately, because

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Speaker 3: I told you earlier He'd said on social media, is

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Speaker 3: going to do the twenty five percent tariffs on Mexico

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Speaker 3: and Canada and ten percent on China if the drugs

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Speaker 3: keep coming in. Immediately, our dollar fell about a third

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Speaker 3: of a cent of a US scent. It's recovered a bit,

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Speaker 3: but it's still down and it seems to have hit

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Speaker 3: Fisher and Pikel health Care as well, so they do

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Speaker 3: a lot of their manufacturing in Mexico and that stuff

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Speaker 3: goes to the US. Their shares were down three point

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Speaker 3: three percent this afternoon. That Liam Dan is going to

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Speaker 3: talk us through it when he's with us very shortly. What, Oh,

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Speaker 3: it's Brad Olson, Sorry, not Liam Dan. Thank you, Thank you, Laura.

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Speaker 3: That's that's my fact checker right there. Do you have

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Speaker 3: one of those?

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Speaker 12: I do.

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Speaker 3: Everything that comes out of my mouth gets wrung and

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Speaker 3: then I know I need to repeat it, which is

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Speaker 3: great because otherwise the BSA comes for me. Here. My

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Speaker 3: wife posted some documents from Wellington to Auckland by Post

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Speaker 3: No Fast Post four weeks ago. They still haven't arrived

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Speaker 3: the documents needed. JP Witness. We're having to get another

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Speaker 3: set done and we're going to courier those. What's happening

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Speaker 3: at New Zealand Post. I don't know, Gary, what is

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Speaker 3: happening at New Zealand Post, Heather, We're waiting for a

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Speaker 3: parcel that's been sent from Poland. It cleared customers, custom's okay,

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Speaker 3: but currently it's taken sixteen days on its way from Auckland.

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Speaker 3: Still hasn't arrived here in Wellington. Herether, maybe your mail

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Speaker 3: got stuck in the mail bag we get parcels quicker

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Speaker 3: to live in from the South Island than Auckland or Hastings.

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Speaker 3: Do you know what my friend said to me that

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Speaker 3: the card was a little bit bent when it arrived,

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Speaker 3: so like it had been at a been through the wars.

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Speaker 3: So maybe I don't know, maybe it went to the war.

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Speaker 3: Maybe it went to Ukraine and came back. Maybe literally

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Speaker 3: went to war, because that may actually explain why it

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Speaker 3: took three weeks. How weird is that Wellington City Council

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Speaker 3: next news talks that'd be.

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Speaker 2: Keeping tractive where the money is going with both business

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Speaker 2: hour we'd hand the Duplessylan and my hr on news

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Speaker 2: talks that'd be.

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Speaker 3: All right even and coming up in the next hour.

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Speaker 3: So we've got Trump's tariff talk hitting us immediately, Brad

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Speaker 3: Olson's going to run us through that. We've got the

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Speaker 3: ocr tomorrow. Paul blocks and thinks most likely fifty basis points,

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Speaker 3: but twenty five is still in play. And then we

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Speaker 3: have Jamie mchay and de Brady as well. It's coming

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Speaker 3: up eight past six now Wellington City councilor has spent

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Speaker 3: the day arguing amongst themselves about what to cut out

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Speaker 3: of the city's long term plan. You'll remember that the

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Speaker 3: plan was initially funded by a sale of the council's

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Speaker 3: shares in Wellington Airport, but then that fell through after

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Speaker 3: some councilor has changed their minds. Council has voted in

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Speaker 3: favor of cutting back on its cycleway project program, rather

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Speaker 3: reducing funding for the Begonia House and the Botanic Gardens.

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Speaker 3: I think demolishing the thing altogether, along with other bits

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Speaker 3: and pieces, and there was a lot of disagreement over

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Speaker 3: whether anything else needed cutting.

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Speaker 14: We are not going broke to only focus on things

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Speaker 14: that you never supported in the first place. For cuts

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Speaker 14: is not brave or bold or progressive decision making.

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Speaker 20: And we do not have money for capital projects. We're

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Speaker 20: already pissing around on stupid cuts here and there with

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Speaker 20: some of these things that we just shouldn't need to

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Speaker 20: be doing well.

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Speaker 3: I'm hearing from our city community in al Langataki and

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Speaker 3: our progressive submitters this morning. Is to stay the course,

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Speaker 3: keep going, and the next generation will thank.

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Speaker 20: Us for it.

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Speaker 3: Counselor Tony Randall proposed to scaling back of the Golden Mile,

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Speaker 3: but that was voted down and he's with us now. Hey,

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Speaker 3: Tony Hi, Yes, well good, thank you. So is the

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Speaker 3: Golden Mile safe the complete package? Nothing cut out of that?

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Speaker 26: Well, the Mayor's actually added in the Lampton Key part

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Speaker 26: of it. So the old a mile, one hundred and

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Speaker 26: forty million dollars of it is all still going to

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Speaker 26: go ahead.

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Speaker 3: Okay, how much has been cut out of the cycleways budget?

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Speaker 26: Well, as far as I can tell, the officer said

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Speaker 26: there was forty million cut, but the numbers to me

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Speaker 26: don't add up as far as I can tell. In fact,

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01:08:17,160 --> 01:08:19,840
Speaker 26: the cycle way budget has gone up by about ten million.

1512
01:08:21,120 --> 01:08:27,080
Speaker 26: But yeah, really really, but we've got information that's been

1513
01:08:27,160 --> 01:08:30,040
Speaker 26: so late it's very very hard to check it. So

1514
01:08:30,080 --> 01:08:32,519
Speaker 26: we're sort of passing a budget that we're still a

1515
01:08:32,520 --> 01:08:33,400
Speaker 26: bit unclear about.

1516
01:08:33,479 --> 01:08:35,640
Speaker 3: Well, this is not what's supposed to happen. This is

1517
01:08:35,640 --> 01:08:37,360
Speaker 3: why the observer is there. Have you guys not gone

1518
01:08:37,400 --> 01:08:38,920
Speaker 3: to the observer and been like, help us out.

1519
01:08:40,479 --> 01:08:42,760
Speaker 13: The observers are still observing. Finding his feet.

1520
01:08:43,000 --> 01:08:45,800
Speaker 26: I've met We met Lindsay yesterday and it was a

1521
01:08:45,840 --> 01:08:49,040
Speaker 26: very positive meeting, and he's his brief is really to

1522
01:08:49,360 --> 01:08:52,280
Speaker 26: watch and advise. But we've still got to get ahead

1523
01:08:52,320 --> 01:08:54,960
Speaker 26: and make these decisions and that's what happened today, Tony.

1524
01:08:55,200 --> 01:08:58,559
Speaker 3: I am alarmed that you guys are passing budgets where

1525
01:08:58,600 --> 01:09:01,080
Speaker 3: you're not sure of the figures. How is this happening?

1526
01:09:03,360 --> 01:09:08,759
Speaker 26: Look, it's a very truncated process. We got the actual

1527
01:09:08,760 --> 01:09:12,799
Speaker 26: figures in the spreadsheet version on Friday. Officers were still

1528
01:09:13,040 --> 01:09:17,080
Speaker 26: passing back information as late as five pm yesterday, and

1529
01:09:17,120 --> 01:09:19,280
Speaker 26: then this morning we went through the whole thing and

1530
01:09:19,280 --> 01:09:22,559
Speaker 26: decided on literally hundreds of millions of dollars worth of funding.

1531
01:09:23,840 --> 01:09:27,160
Speaker 3: Okay, now, is this a done deal? Is this thing

1532
01:09:27,280 --> 01:09:29,680
Speaker 3: set in stone, You've saved enough, you can pass it,

1533
01:09:29,680 --> 01:09:31,680
Speaker 3: it's going to go through or are we going to

1534
01:09:31,760 --> 01:09:33,920
Speaker 3: have more snacks?

1535
01:09:34,200 --> 01:09:37,600
Speaker 26: It's very hard to tell that the aim was to

1536
01:09:37,640 --> 01:09:40,679
Speaker 26: restore the five hundred million dollars worth of emergency money

1537
01:09:40,680 --> 01:09:44,400
Speaker 26: that that officers said we needed because we didn't sell

1538
01:09:44,400 --> 01:09:47,120
Speaker 26: the airport cheers. But the mayor has added in a

1539
01:09:47,160 --> 01:09:50,360
Speaker 26: whole lot of spending that the officer's advised to be

1540
01:09:50,360 --> 01:09:53,360
Speaker 26: cut to meet that target. The officers advised that we

1541
01:09:53,400 --> 01:09:56,040
Speaker 26: wouldn't meet the target till years nine or ten, which

1542
01:09:56,080 --> 01:09:59,000
Speaker 26: is like almost and they never never say while we

1543
01:09:59,040 --> 01:10:01,840
Speaker 26: really haven't done the hard cuts yet, And I'm just

1544
01:10:01,880 --> 01:10:04,120
Speaker 26: worried that there's not going to pass the audit when

1545
01:10:04,120 --> 01:10:06,280
Speaker 26: they're when the audits look at it saying what's prudent

1546
01:10:06,320 --> 01:10:07,920
Speaker 26: and have we got enough emergency money?

1547
01:10:08,080 --> 01:10:11,760
Speaker 3: Okay, so you guys have done enough as far as

1548
01:10:11,760 --> 01:10:14,519
Speaker 3: you're concerned as a council. It's about whether the auditors

1549
01:10:14,560 --> 01:10:16,240
Speaker 3: think you've done enough. Is that right? Like this is

1550
01:10:16,280 --> 01:10:17,920
Speaker 3: the end of the council involvement in this.

1551
01:10:19,520 --> 01:10:22,280
Speaker 26: No, the office are going to go away and report

1552
01:10:22,320 --> 01:10:26,839
Speaker 26: on on the amended you know, the decisions we made today,

1553
01:10:27,000 --> 01:10:29,559
Speaker 26: and they're going to report back on the seventeenth of December.

1554
01:10:30,479 --> 01:10:32,879
Speaker 9: Hopefully we'll get some workshop work before then.

1555
01:10:32,760 --> 01:10:35,080
Speaker 26: To find out how that whether the numbers do add up.

1556
01:10:35,160 --> 01:10:38,439
Speaker 26: And I but I suspect they don't because I you know,

1557
01:10:38,479 --> 01:10:40,920
Speaker 26: we're still doing We added money into the Golden Mile

1558
01:10:41,000 --> 01:10:45,400
Speaker 26: project from what the officers advised. Yes, we didn't postpone

1559
01:10:45,920 --> 01:10:47,880
Speaker 26: for example, the organics.

1560
01:10:48,240 --> 01:10:48,879
Speaker 9: We didn't.

1561
01:10:49,080 --> 01:10:54,559
Speaker 26: We didn't actually cut the cycle ways by a significant amount.

1562
01:10:55,640 --> 01:10:57,679
Speaker 26: You know when you add up, well, I think that

1563
01:10:57,720 --> 01:11:00,760
Speaker 26: I think they've increased it. The things we've cut a

1564
01:11:00,800 --> 01:11:03,360
Speaker 26: sort of ten million dollars off the facilities management and

1565
01:11:03,680 --> 01:11:05,360
Speaker 26: a few other things. If you look at the list

1566
01:11:05,400 --> 01:11:08,080
Speaker 26: of what the means amendments were. They were largely adding

1567
01:11:08,120 --> 01:11:11,840
Speaker 26: in more spending, and so I'm worried we haven't made it.

1568
01:11:13,000 --> 01:11:15,799
Speaker 3: Tony, is somebody dicking you guys around here with figures?

1569
01:11:15,840 --> 01:11:18,160
Speaker 3: Because I feel like the council, the council officials are

1570
01:11:18,200 --> 01:11:20,200
Speaker 3: dicking you guys around. They keep on changing the figures.

1571
01:11:20,240 --> 01:11:21,040
Speaker 3: It feels dodgy to me.

1572
01:11:23,400 --> 01:11:26,200
Speaker 26: I don't want to blame the officers one hundred percent,

1573
01:11:26,280 --> 01:11:30,960
Speaker 26: but it's very frustrating to raise questions and not have

1574
01:11:31,040 --> 01:11:34,280
Speaker 26: them answered until just before the meeting. I know they've

1575
01:11:34,320 --> 01:11:35,479
Speaker 26: been working really, really hard.

1576
01:11:35,920 --> 01:11:38,080
Speaker 3: But yeah, but ang on, I mean, okay, you can

1577
01:11:38,080 --> 01:11:40,120
Speaker 3: make excuses them because you have an existing relationship and

1578
01:11:40,160 --> 01:11:43,040
Speaker 3: I don't. But how did we go from needing to

1579
01:11:43,080 --> 01:11:46,519
Speaker 3: find two six hundred million or something to needing to

1580
01:11:46,520 --> 01:11:49,080
Speaker 3: find five hundred million to today apparently only needing to

1581
01:11:49,120 --> 01:11:54,120
Speaker 3: find two hundred and eighty million Like this, this fells dodgy.

1582
01:11:54,280 --> 01:11:56,679
Speaker 26: Well, I've got to go back to the nervous emotion

1583
01:11:56,960 --> 01:11:59,920
Speaker 26: when the officers said, this is the consequences of not

1584
01:12:00,400 --> 01:12:02,880
Speaker 26: selling the airport. She is They said, by years five

1585
01:12:02,960 --> 01:12:06,480
Speaker 26: or six, we need to have five hundred million. Yeah,

1586
01:12:06,680 --> 01:12:09,799
Speaker 26: you know, below our own limit or a billion dollars overall.

1587
01:12:09,880 --> 01:12:12,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, but then today apparently Torri Goes isn't fine, it's

1588
01:12:12,439 --> 01:12:15,120
Speaker 3: only two hundred and eighty. Well that's a massive difference.

1589
01:12:16,240 --> 01:12:19,320
Speaker 26: I know, I know. And just because counselors do not

1590
01:12:19,400 --> 01:12:23,320
Speaker 26: like to cut projects, this council especially, and this councilor

1591
01:12:23,320 --> 01:12:24,719
Speaker 26: I don't think has cut enough projects.

1592
01:12:24,760 --> 01:12:26,000
Speaker 13: So what do you find out?

1593
01:12:26,120 --> 01:12:28,080
Speaker 3: What's your background? What did you do before you were

1594
01:12:28,080 --> 01:12:28,639
Speaker 3: in the council?

1595
01:12:29,960 --> 01:12:30,320
Speaker 9: I was.

1596
01:12:30,560 --> 01:12:32,519
Speaker 26: I was a business analyst who were at business cases

1597
01:12:32,560 --> 01:12:34,879
Speaker 26: and you know, ran it projects.

1598
01:12:34,880 --> 01:12:37,559
Speaker 3: Okay, so if the business guy, the business case guy

1599
01:12:37,600 --> 01:12:40,200
Speaker 3: who deals with numbers is thinks that there's something weird

1600
01:12:40,240 --> 01:12:41,720
Speaker 3: going on here and the numbers don't out up, we

1601
01:12:41,760 --> 01:12:42,400
Speaker 3: should be worried.

1602
01:12:44,160 --> 01:12:44,679
Speaker 9: I'm worried.

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01:12:45,520 --> 01:12:47,479
Speaker 26: Look, a lot of counselors are very happy with what

1604
01:12:47,520 --> 01:12:50,719
Speaker 26: happened today. I'm not happy. I'm also not happy because

1605
01:12:51,360 --> 01:12:53,680
Speaker 26: this means that the Golden Mile was not going to

1606
01:12:53,680 --> 01:12:56,720
Speaker 26: be subject to public consultation anymore. I think that, you know,

1607
01:12:56,760 --> 01:12:59,280
Speaker 26: it's quite clear that as at the moment, they're going

1608
01:12:59,320 --> 01:13:02,040
Speaker 26: to sign contract and start construction in January.

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01:13:02,160 --> 01:13:05,599
Speaker 3: You guys, honestly, I feel like I feel sorry for you, Tony.

1610
01:13:05,640 --> 01:13:07,479
Speaker 3: Thank you. I really appreciate your running us through that,

1611
01:13:07,479 --> 01:13:10,000
Speaker 3: Tony Randall, Wellington City Council. So there we go. I mean,

1612
01:13:10,320 --> 01:13:12,840
Speaker 3: jezus if you need it, if you were, like Simeon Brown,

1613
01:13:12,880 --> 01:13:14,400
Speaker 3: did not really have a case for bringing in the

1614
01:13:14,400 --> 01:13:17,519
Speaker 3: Wellington Observer. Tell me what you think now, this sounds

1615
01:13:17,520 --> 01:13:21,000
Speaker 3: like a shambles hither as late as five pm last evening. Wow,

1616
01:13:21,040 --> 01:13:23,720
Speaker 3: that's commitment to the cause, working until normal hours, isn't it. Well,

1617
01:13:23,760 --> 01:13:27,160
Speaker 3: that's what it's like at the Wellington City Council headquarters

1618
01:13:27,479 --> 01:13:29,719
Speaker 3: with the officials. Oh, I tell you what. Tony doesn't

1619
01:13:29,720 --> 01:13:30,920
Speaker 3: want to say it, but I'll say it to you.

1620
01:13:30,960 --> 01:13:33,760
Speaker 3: Those officials, I wouldn't trust them as far as I

1621
01:13:33,760 --> 01:13:36,080
Speaker 3: can throw them. They've got an agenda here about what

1622
01:13:36,120 --> 01:13:37,719
Speaker 3: they want and what they don't want, and they prepare

1623
01:13:37,720 --> 01:13:39,840
Speaker 3: to screw the scrum constantly, and I reckon that they

1624
01:13:39,880 --> 01:13:42,439
Speaker 3: realize I reckon, I'm starting to form the view and

1625
01:13:42,479 --> 01:13:45,880
Speaker 3: this is in my opinion, so no one gets sued.

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01:13:46,000 --> 01:13:48,439
Speaker 3: I have to say that I have a feeling that

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01:13:48,479 --> 01:13:52,160
Speaker 3: they know that a lot of counselors are not sit

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01:13:52,200 --> 01:13:59,240
Speaker 3: somewhere between being somewhat financially illiterate, and also just a

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01:13:59,240 --> 01:14:01,920
Speaker 3: little bit confused by numbers. Like if Tony randall the numbers,

1630
01:14:01,920 --> 01:14:04,280
Speaker 3: guys confused by what's going on, then everybody sits somewhere

1631
01:14:04,280 --> 01:14:06,439
Speaker 3: in that ballpark, don't they. So their officials just throw

1632
01:14:06,479 --> 01:14:08,120
Speaker 3: all kinds of numbers at them. He has moving facets,

1633
01:14:08,160 --> 01:14:11,120
Speaker 3: different numbers, differ numbers, differ numbers, just confuse them, get

1634
01:14:11,160 --> 01:14:12,360
Speaker 3: what they want out of it. I think the whole

1635
01:14:12,360 --> 01:14:14,400
Speaker 3: thing looks dodgy as and I'm gonna yeah, I think

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01:14:14,400 --> 01:14:16,160
Speaker 3: we're I don't think we've seen the end of this,

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01:14:16,240 --> 01:14:20,439
Speaker 3: by the looks of things, Heather. What happened in the

1638
01:14:20,479 --> 01:14:25,479
Speaker 3: air with the Health Brackets Hairdressers Regulations nineteen eighty is

1639
01:14:25,520 --> 01:14:27,639
Speaker 3: that it prohibited the serving of refreshments in the hair

1640
01:14:27,680 --> 01:14:30,600
Speaker 3: cutting area to prevent the spread of harmful bacteria, hepatitis

1641
01:14:30,600 --> 01:14:33,599
Speaker 3: and coldal flu through an adequately clean crockery and cutlery. Now,

1642
01:14:33,640 --> 01:14:36,320
Speaker 3: I don't know about you, but every time I've had

1643
01:14:36,320 --> 01:14:39,480
Speaker 3: a bit of a cup of chai at the hairdresser

1644
01:14:39,760 --> 01:14:42,080
Speaker 3: while having molocks trimmed, I don't know that I've had

1645
01:14:42,160 --> 01:14:45,439
Speaker 3: hepatitis coldal flu. Maybe, but I don't think I have.

1646
01:14:46,400 --> 01:14:48,559
Speaker 3: I don't feel like it's desperately unfair to hea dresses

1647
01:14:48,600 --> 01:14:50,479
Speaker 3: to suggest that they are not very good at washing dishes,

1648
01:14:50,520 --> 01:14:53,240
Speaker 3: and also point out the majority of hair dresses through

1649
01:14:53,240 --> 01:14:56,040
Speaker 3: the ages have been ladies, and women are very good

1650
01:14:56,040 --> 01:14:58,320
Speaker 3: at washing dishes, as we know from what happens in

1651
01:14:58,320 --> 01:15:01,120
Speaker 3: our houses. So this is unfair, isn't it. They could

1652
01:15:01,160 --> 01:15:02,799
Speaker 3: have done it. They could have just left the headdresses

1653
01:15:02,800 --> 01:15:03,559
Speaker 3: to wash the dishes.

1654
01:15:03,800 --> 01:15:08,120
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1658
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Speaker 3: Heather Santa is bringing Wellington a commissioner, keV. I think

1659
01:15:22,479 --> 01:15:24,960
Speaker 3: you might be right. Nineteen past six. Now, Donald Trump,

1660
01:15:24,960 --> 01:15:27,559
Speaker 3: as I told you earlier, has already promised on social

1661
01:15:27,600 --> 01:15:29,519
Speaker 3: media today that he's going to hit Mexico and Canada

1662
01:15:29,560 --> 01:15:32,200
Speaker 3: with a twenty five percent tariff on all all our

1663
01:15:32,240 --> 01:15:34,080
Speaker 3: products coming into the USA. You'll do that on the

1664
01:15:34,080 --> 01:15:36,599
Speaker 3: first day, and if China doesn't stop the illegal drug track,

1665
01:15:36,600 --> 01:15:38,160
Speaker 3: they're going to hit with ten percent on top of

1666
01:15:38,160 --> 01:15:42,439
Speaker 3: everything else. Informetric's principal economist Brad Olson is with us. Hey, Brad,

1667
01:15:43,080 --> 01:15:45,599
Speaker 3: good evening. I didn't realize that we would be exposed

1668
01:15:45,640 --> 01:15:47,280
Speaker 3: to this directly, but I mean by the looks of things,

1669
01:15:47,320 --> 01:15:49,880
Speaker 3: Fisher and pikel they do manufacturing in Mexico and so

1670
01:15:49,920 --> 01:15:52,679
Speaker 3: they and then important to the export into the US.

1671
01:15:52,680 --> 01:15:53,760
Speaker 3: So they could be hit, can they?

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Speaker 10: That's right?

1673
01:15:55,280 --> 01:15:57,639
Speaker 20: And I think you know, it's becoming clearer and clearer

1674
01:15:57,680 --> 01:16:00,559
Speaker 20: now that any changes or any moves and the trade

1675
01:16:00,560 --> 01:16:04,760
Speaker 20: space do have ramifications for US, either directly or indirectly

1676
01:16:04,760 --> 01:16:07,880
Speaker 20: in terms of how trade activity plays out. I think

1677
01:16:07,960 --> 01:16:10,400
Speaker 20: surprising as well. You'll remember I think here the probably

1678
01:16:10,439 --> 01:16:12,799
Speaker 20: a conversation that we had a couple of weeks back wondering,

1679
01:16:13,040 --> 01:16:15,320
Speaker 20: you know, would this actually be the sort of policy

1680
01:16:15,320 --> 01:16:18,400
Speaker 20: that Trump would implement quite quickly, because he'd been talking

1681
01:16:18,400 --> 01:16:21,240
Speaker 20: about you know, retribution and deportations and similar quite a

1682
01:16:21,320 --> 01:16:24,120
Speaker 20: lot before then. But it looks like, again the tariff

1683
01:16:24,160 --> 01:16:26,599
Speaker 20: policy is not so much an economic policy. It's more

1684
01:16:26,680 --> 01:16:29,760
Speaker 20: again part of you know, the retribution going on, and

1685
01:16:29,800 --> 01:16:32,479
Speaker 20: in this case it's around open borders and sort of

1686
01:16:32,560 --> 01:16:35,479
Speaker 20: drug access, and Trump saying well, look, if you know

1687
01:16:35,560 --> 01:16:38,160
Speaker 20: these are fental and similar still comes over the borders,

1688
01:16:38,760 --> 01:16:43,400
Speaker 20: then these tariffs will remain so still big, big ramifications,

1689
01:16:43,400 --> 01:16:46,200
Speaker 20: and the fact that the pre incoming US president wants

1690
01:16:46,240 --> 01:16:48,679
Speaker 20: to do that on day one does highlight that we're

1691
01:16:48,680 --> 01:16:50,360
Speaker 20: in for quite a ride when it comes to these

1692
01:16:50,400 --> 01:16:52,280
Speaker 20: sort of trade flows and trade changes.

1693
01:16:52,400 --> 01:16:56,200
Speaker 3: But okay, so immediately immediately there's reaction, right our dollar

1694
01:16:56,280 --> 01:16:58,320
Speaker 3: drops against the US by something like a third of

1695
01:16:58,320 --> 01:16:59,920
Speaker 3: a US sense, and then it recovers a little bit,

1696
01:16:59,920 --> 01:17:02,599
Speaker 3: and there's a drop off in Fisher and Pickel's it is,

1697
01:17:03,040 --> 01:17:06,080
Speaker 3: are people overreacting to what he says because he might

1698
01:17:06,200 --> 01:17:09,519
Speaker 3: just be chatting like he does, oh exactly.

1699
01:17:09,880 --> 01:17:11,920
Speaker 20: I think, to be honest that the market reaction is

1700
01:17:11,960 --> 01:17:14,960
Speaker 20: probably pricing in a bit of that jitteriness. So I

1701
01:17:15,000 --> 01:17:18,719
Speaker 20: suspect that, you know, if this was already a signed, sealed,

1702
01:17:18,720 --> 01:17:21,719
Speaker 20: delivered document, they'd probably be a much stronger market reaction

1703
01:17:21,800 --> 01:17:24,080
Speaker 20: than we've seen. So I think what you are seeing

1704
01:17:24,120 --> 01:17:26,639
Speaker 20: is people going, okay, this is more of a live

1705
01:17:26,720 --> 01:17:29,240
Speaker 20: conversation than it might have been, say a week ago,

1706
01:17:29,280 --> 01:17:31,960
Speaker 20: but definitely not locked in. You saw that, and the

1707
01:17:32,040 --> 01:17:35,040
Speaker 20: likes of the share markets, particularly across parts of Asia

1708
01:17:35,080 --> 01:17:37,519
Speaker 20: as well, going okay, this is going to be you know,

1709
01:17:37,560 --> 01:17:40,360
Speaker 20: a bit more of a direct sort of focus coming through,

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01:17:40,400 --> 01:17:43,680
Speaker 20: particularly with that additional ten percent tariff being levied on

1711
01:17:43,800 --> 01:17:46,599
Speaker 20: China apparently, and again we'll sort of wait and see

1712
01:17:46,640 --> 01:17:49,000
Speaker 20: what happens day one, day two. But you're right, there

1713
01:17:49,080 --> 01:17:51,360
Speaker 20: is a lot of uncertainly, a lot of questions out there.

1714
01:17:51,760 --> 01:17:53,800
Speaker 20: I think the thing that probably we're thinking about a

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01:17:53,800 --> 01:17:56,719
Speaker 20: lot in New Zealand is one, as you've just profiled

1716
01:17:56,760 --> 01:17:59,240
Speaker 20: with fish and poka. You know, where is that exposure

1717
01:17:59,320 --> 01:18:03,280
Speaker 20: for us potently indirectly? But also if tariffs do come

1718
01:18:03,320 --> 01:18:07,799
Speaker 20: through and they are widened outside of Mexico, Canada and China,

1719
01:18:08,040 --> 01:18:10,200
Speaker 20: what sort of potential was there maybe for New Zealand

1720
01:18:10,240 --> 01:18:12,639
Speaker 20: to get an exemption because that will be probably that's

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Speaker 20: going to be the hot ticket or the hot property

1722
01:18:14,800 --> 01:18:17,800
Speaker 20: item when it comes to trade negotiations, because Trump does

1723
01:18:17,840 --> 01:18:21,439
Speaker 20: look likely to put some of these bigger tariffs.

1724
01:18:20,920 --> 01:18:23,719
Speaker 3: On interesting Brad, thank you very much, appreciate it. Brad Awson,

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01:18:23,760 --> 01:18:27,200
Speaker 3: Infametrics Principal Economists. Hey, if we weren't as busy as

1726
01:18:27,200 --> 01:18:29,960
Speaker 3: we were today, and we've been so busy today, I

1727
01:18:29,960 --> 01:18:31,439
Speaker 3: would have told you a lot more about what Chris

1728
01:18:31,479 --> 01:18:33,080
Speaker 3: Bishops just announced. But I'm going to have to hold

1729
01:18:33,120 --> 01:18:35,599
Speaker 3: it and tell you about it shortly. And also Jamie

1730
01:18:35,640 --> 01:18:37,080
Speaker 3: McKay's with us next six twenty two.

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01:18:37,880 --> 01:18:41,040
Speaker 1: What if it's to do with money, it matters to you.

1732
01:18:41,479 --> 01:18:45,080
Speaker 2: The Business Hour with Heather duper Clan and my HR

1733
01:18:45,439 --> 01:18:49,240
Speaker 2: The HR solution for busy smys on News Talk ZB.

1734
01:18:49,360 --> 01:18:51,080
Speaker 3: Well, I'm not busy, so I'm going to google the

1735
01:18:51,160 --> 01:18:53,720
Speaker 3: Chris Bishop announcement. O cams google it for me and

1736
01:18:53,760 --> 01:18:55,519
Speaker 3: then text me and tell me what you think it means.

1737
01:18:55,520 --> 01:18:57,160
Speaker 3: Because I'm telling you now you don't have the context,

1738
01:18:57,160 --> 01:18:58,600
Speaker 3: and you're going to need my context. So don't be

1739
01:18:58,640 --> 01:19:00,599
Speaker 3: turning the radio off. You're going to have to wait

1740
01:19:00,680 --> 01:19:02,480
Speaker 3: to understand why he's made this announcement.

1741
01:19:02,520 --> 01:19:02,920
Speaker 7: Mm hmm.

1742
01:19:03,040 --> 01:19:05,679
Speaker 3: There's a tease for you. Six twenty five. Jamie McKay,

1743
01:19:05,800 --> 01:19:09,080
Speaker 3: Host of the Countries with US right now, Hey, Jamie Goda, Heather,

1744
01:19:09,160 --> 01:19:10,759
Speaker 3: what was Luxon doing at Mystery Creek?

1745
01:19:11,760 --> 01:19:14,040
Speaker 22: Well, some would say he was preaching to the choir.

1746
01:19:14,600 --> 01:19:17,599
Speaker 22: This is the first of a three stop tour along

1747
01:19:17,640 --> 01:19:22,040
Speaker 22: with Federated Farmers Chrystopher Luxe and Todd McLay Restoring Farmer

1748
01:19:22,320 --> 01:19:27,640
Speaker 22: Confidence Tour. But apparently the TV networks weren't that interested

1749
01:19:27,680 --> 01:19:31,400
Speaker 22: in this hay seed Hekoi Heather because there was a

1750
01:19:31,479 --> 01:19:34,360
Speaker 22: very little coverage, although I hadn't been through both the

1751
01:19:34,520 --> 01:19:38,920
Speaker 22: network news feeds tonight to confirm or deny that. Look,

1752
01:19:39,040 --> 01:19:42,040
Speaker 22: Federated Farmers have launched this three stop tour with the

1753
01:19:42,080 --> 01:19:44,759
Speaker 22: PM and it has one aim and one aim only,

1754
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Speaker 22: and that's to restore key with farmer's confidence Today at

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01:19:49,120 --> 01:19:54,360
Speaker 22: Mystery Creek, Friday at the Ashburton Events Center, and then

1756
01:19:54,479 --> 01:19:57,840
Speaker 22: next Wednesday at the y Mumu Field Day site which

1757
01:19:57,880 --> 01:20:01,400
Speaker 22: is just outside of Gore. No doubt I'll get a

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01:20:01,479 --> 01:20:05,400
Speaker 22: very eager reception. I think seven hundred farmers or something

1759
01:20:05,400 --> 01:20:09,160
Speaker 22: there today. But once again, yeah, to be honest, this

1760
01:20:09,520 --> 01:20:12,919
Speaker 22: government probably couldn't do any more for farming or farmers

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01:20:12,920 --> 01:20:15,960
Speaker 22: if it tried. So maybe he is preaching to the choir.

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01:20:16,080 --> 01:20:18,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, but remember he's fighting within his own team, right,

1763
01:20:18,560 --> 01:20:21,519
Speaker 3: So he wants Luxon, wants the farmers to vote for him,

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01:20:22,040 --> 01:20:23,240
Speaker 3: and a lot of them vote for Acts.

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01:20:23,320 --> 01:20:26,479
Speaker 22: Now, well, I'll tell you what. The other thing here

1766
01:20:26,360 --> 01:20:29,080
Speaker 22: that a lot of them vote for New Zealand first. Shane,

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01:20:29,160 --> 01:20:33,120
Speaker 22: Dans and Winston are very very popular with the farmers,

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01:20:33,479 --> 01:20:36,080
Speaker 22: especially the old Prince of the Province's Marto a shamed

1769
01:20:36,080 --> 01:20:40,439
Speaker 22: with there's no nonsense, anti woke rhetoric goes down like

1770
01:20:40,479 --> 01:20:42,640
Speaker 22: a nice Emerson's Mackay's.

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01:20:43,800 --> 01:20:46,559
Speaker 3: Followed by a packet of chippies. Are they Heartland chippies?

1772
01:20:46,600 --> 01:20:47,200
Speaker 3: Is that what they are?

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01:20:47,800 --> 01:20:49,400
Speaker 22: Yeah? Yeah, that's plugging line.

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01:20:49,439 --> 01:20:50,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, Sultan Vinna go obviously.

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Speaker 6: Hey.

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Speaker 3: What's Rabobank saying about Donald Trump coming back to the

1777
01:20:53,680 --> 01:20:55,040
Speaker 3: White House and the implications for us?

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Speaker 22: Well, it's interesting what Trump could mean for us. I mean,

1779
01:20:59,120 --> 01:21:02,240
Speaker 22: the news is mainly bad news, believe it or not.

1780
01:21:02,320 --> 01:21:06,160
Speaker 22: The one real upside for US as an exporting nation

1781
01:21:06,280 --> 01:21:09,120
Speaker 22: appears to be that with Donald Trump, or an impending

1782
01:21:09,640 --> 01:21:12,439
Speaker 22: Trump presidency, when he a second shift at the White

1783
01:21:12,439 --> 01:21:15,320
Speaker 22: House will lower the exchange rate. That's going to be

1784
01:21:15,320 --> 01:21:19,320
Speaker 22: beneficial for US. But when he gets in, there's going

1785
01:21:19,360 --> 01:21:23,200
Speaker 22: to be tax cuts to regulation, high defense spending, tariffs.

1786
01:21:23,240 --> 01:21:25,880
Speaker 22: Tariff's are the big one. All of these likely to

1787
01:21:26,000 --> 01:21:29,680
Speaker 22: lead to higher inflation, according to Rabobank, which will mean

1788
01:21:29,800 --> 01:21:34,639
Speaker 22: slower growth domestic product growth, and increased budget deficits. Now,

1789
01:21:34,880 --> 01:21:38,160
Speaker 22: Trump's talked about these tariffs ten to twenty percent across

1790
01:21:38,200 --> 01:21:41,400
Speaker 22: the board, sixty percent on Chinese imports, even up to

1791
01:21:41,439 --> 01:21:47,280
Speaker 22: one hundred percent on Chinese electric vehicles imported from Mexico. Now,

1792
01:21:47,320 --> 01:21:50,839
Speaker 22: all of these negative things could mean that the Federal

1793
01:21:50,920 --> 01:21:56,080
Speaker 22: Reserve pauses rate the rate cutting cycle intrastrate cutting cycle.

1794
01:21:56,479 --> 01:22:00,120
Speaker 22: In twenty twenty five, we've got our OCR announcement to MYRO.

1795
01:22:00,560 --> 01:22:03,599
Speaker 22: It will be interesting to see what flow on effect

1796
01:22:03,800 --> 01:22:06,800
Speaker 22: that has for us. But in saying that the outside

1797
01:22:06,960 --> 01:22:10,400
Speaker 22: of this equation is the stronger, a US dollar obviously

1798
01:22:10,760 --> 01:22:12,439
Speaker 22: is good for US. It's going to be good for

1799
01:22:12,479 --> 01:22:16,400
Speaker 22: New Zealand, grain, oil, seed, dairy, and BF exports. The

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01:22:16,560 --> 01:22:19,920
Speaker 22: downsiders a lot of these countries that have big trade

1801
01:22:19,960 --> 01:22:24,320
Speaker 22: surpluses with the US, such as Indonesia, Vietnam, South Korea,

1802
01:22:24,400 --> 01:22:29,160
Speaker 22: Japan and China could create economic pressure there that's bad

1803
01:22:29,200 --> 01:22:30,760
Speaker 22: for US because we export to them.

1804
01:22:31,360 --> 01:22:34,000
Speaker 3: Jamie, thank you, Enjoy your beer. That's Jamie mckaye, host

1805
01:22:34,000 --> 01:22:35,000
Speaker 3: of the country.

1806
01:22:37,280 --> 01:22:39,679
Speaker 1: Crunching the numbers and getting the results.

1807
01:22:39,960 --> 01:22:43,439
Speaker 2: It's Heather Duplicy Ellen with the Business Hour thanks to

1808
01:22:43,600 --> 01:22:48,840
Speaker 2: my HR, the HR solution for busy sms on news talksb.

1809
01:22:58,640 --> 01:23:01,080
Speaker 3: Right, Integrady is going to be with us shortly out

1810
01:23:01,080 --> 01:23:06,040
Speaker 3: of the UK. MUZZ has googled it and muzz mus,

1811
01:23:06,120 --> 01:23:08,120
Speaker 3: you are wrong. This is why, Mars, This is why

1812
01:23:08,200 --> 01:23:09,880
Speaker 3: maz is not delivering the news to you, and I'm

1813
01:23:09,880 --> 01:23:12,080
Speaker 3: delivering the news to you, muzz Is. Chris Bishop has

1814
01:23:12,080 --> 01:23:14,280
Speaker 3: announced that he's designing it to make it easier for

1815
01:23:14,320 --> 01:23:16,479
Speaker 3: community housing to be built and affordable for the average

1816
01:23:16,560 --> 01:23:20,160
Speaker 3: Joe blogs. There you go hither, I can do your thing. No, muz,

1817
01:23:20,479 --> 01:23:22,679
Speaker 3: that's not the most interesting thing that he announced today.

1818
01:23:23,280 --> 01:23:26,600
Speaker 3: What Chris Bishop announced today which is interesting is that

1819
01:23:26,640 --> 01:23:30,240
Speaker 3: he's ordered an independent review of Sport New Zealand about

1820
01:23:30,280 --> 01:23:34,559
Speaker 3: how it allocates public funds. Now, if you if you

1821
01:23:34,680 --> 01:23:37,759
Speaker 3: just read that, you'd be like, what, who cares? Why

1822
01:23:37,840 --> 01:23:40,320
Speaker 3: do you care what Sport New Zealand is doing with

1823
01:23:40,400 --> 01:23:42,759
Speaker 3: its funding and why does there need to be a review? Well,

1824
01:23:44,040 --> 01:23:48,479
Speaker 3: do you remember a few weeks ago the volunteer coaches thing?

1825
01:23:48,800 --> 01:23:50,960
Speaker 3: Remember that I think that this is this is I

1826
01:23:51,000 --> 01:23:52,639
Speaker 3: think this is what he's looking into.

1827
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Speaker 4: Here.

1828
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Speaker 3: A few weeks ago we told you because the Taxpayers

1829
01:23:55,800 --> 01:23:58,280
Speaker 3: Union dug it up, that Sport New Zealand had set

1830
01:23:58,280 --> 01:24:00,960
Speaker 3: aside one hundred and seventy two thousand. Now I think

1831
01:24:01,120 --> 01:24:03,479
Speaker 3: they stumped up maybe like one hundred and forty thousand

1832
01:24:03,479 --> 01:24:05,080
Speaker 3: of it or something like that. Somebody else chucked the

1833
01:24:05,080 --> 01:24:07,360
Speaker 3: thirty in as well, but anyway, in total it was

1834
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Speaker 3: one hundred and seventy two thousand dollars and the money

1835
01:24:10,120 --> 01:24:12,600
Speaker 3: was used to basically say thank you to your volunteer

1836
01:24:12,680 --> 01:24:17,120
Speaker 3: coach by sending them an E card. I mean, you know,

1837
01:24:17,280 --> 01:24:18,880
Speaker 3: you could obviously just go up to the bloke and

1838
01:24:18,920 --> 01:24:21,080
Speaker 3: be like, hey, thanks, thanks for coaching the Keddi's football team.

1839
01:24:21,080 --> 01:24:23,280
Speaker 3: That was really awesome of you, thanks so much, But no, no, no,

1840
01:24:23,520 --> 01:24:25,640
Speaker 3: you had to go online and send them basically an

1841
01:24:25,760 --> 01:24:28,840
Speaker 3: email that then opens into a card. The thing was

1842
01:24:28,920 --> 01:24:32,120
Speaker 3: such a complete waste of money that every single one

1843
01:24:32,120 --> 01:24:34,840
Speaker 3: of those emails that were sent ended up costing five

1844
01:24:35,120 --> 01:24:38,439
Speaker 3: hundred and seventy five dollars. Now, how much does it

1845
01:24:38,439 --> 01:24:41,439
Speaker 3: cost you to send an email? That's right, absolutely bloody nothing.

1846
01:24:41,760 --> 01:24:44,000
Speaker 3: So how on earth they thought that they could justify

1847
01:24:44,000 --> 01:24:46,400
Speaker 3: close to six hundred for every single one of those

1848
01:24:46,400 --> 01:24:49,559
Speaker 3: emails is just completely bonkers, right, how many? Like how

1849
01:24:49,640 --> 01:24:52,000
Speaker 3: many boxes a beer could you buy your coach for

1850
01:24:52,040 --> 01:24:53,880
Speaker 3: five hundred and seventy five dollars? Because I don't know

1851
01:24:53,920 --> 01:24:55,439
Speaker 3: about you. I don't even drink at the moment, I'd

1852
01:24:55,520 --> 01:24:57,799
Speaker 3: rather have the boxes a beer than a stupid old email.

1853
01:24:57,800 --> 01:25:01,439
Speaker 3: I hate emails anyway. Not only that, but then about

1854
01:25:01,479 --> 01:25:04,559
Speaker 3: six days ago, the Taxpayer's Union broke through an Official

1855
01:25:04,560 --> 01:25:07,439
Speaker 3: Information Act that Sport New Zealand had spent three hundred

1856
01:25:07,439 --> 01:25:11,800
Speaker 3: and sixteen thousand dollars on two surveys looking at diversity,

1857
01:25:11,800 --> 01:25:14,880
Speaker 3: equity and inclusion. Now that's another thing I hate. I

1858
01:25:14,920 --> 01:25:18,280
Speaker 3: hate diversity, equity and inclusion. I hate it because all

1859
01:25:18,320 --> 01:25:21,240
Speaker 3: that ends up happening there is that we go, do

1860
01:25:21,280 --> 01:25:22,720
Speaker 3: you know what? We need a woman for that role?

1861
01:25:22,760 --> 01:25:23,519
Speaker 3: Can you find a woman?

1862
01:25:23,600 --> 01:25:23,720
Speaker 11: Now?

1863
01:25:23,760 --> 01:25:25,760
Speaker 3: The bloke's the best, Now get a woman. Oh she's

1864
01:25:25,760 --> 01:25:27,240
Speaker 3: a bit crap at it. Don't worry, I get the woman.

1865
01:25:27,280 --> 01:25:30,519
Speaker 3: I hate that. I hate giving people roles just because

1866
01:25:30,520 --> 01:25:32,840
Speaker 3: they've got boobs or brown skin. That's not cool by me.

1867
01:25:33,240 --> 01:25:35,120
Speaker 3: You got to get the best person anyway. So as

1868
01:25:35,160 --> 01:25:37,840
Speaker 3: a result, that's what Chris Buship is looking into and

1869
01:25:37,840 --> 01:25:42,400
Speaker 3: I'm very happy. And somebody has told an insider has

1870
01:25:42,439 --> 01:25:45,680
Speaker 3: told media that there is an impression that the organization

1871
01:25:45,800 --> 01:25:48,320
Speaker 3: has become a cash free for all. And I don't

1872
01:25:48,320 --> 01:25:49,760
Speaker 3: know about you, but I look at this and think

1873
01:25:49,800 --> 01:25:51,639
Speaker 3: that sounds about right. It sounds to me like everybody's

1874
01:25:51,640 --> 01:25:54,759
Speaker 3: looked at Sport, New Zealand and gone, hey, there's free

1875
01:25:54,800 --> 01:25:57,679
Speaker 3: money to just use on whatever you want. So Chris Buship,

1876
01:25:57,720 --> 01:26:00,160
Speaker 3: well done. Cannot wait to see the outcome of that.

1877
01:26:00,520 --> 01:26:02,280
Speaker 3: It's twenty one away from seven.

1878
01:26:03,040 --> 01:26:05,680
Speaker 1: Ever, do for thee Ellen all right, So the Reserve.

1879
01:26:05,479 --> 01:26:07,240
Speaker 3: Bank is going to make the final decision on the

1880
01:26:07,240 --> 01:26:09,880
Speaker 3: OCR tomorrow, and the consensus is that it's going to

1881
01:26:09,920 --> 01:26:12,160
Speaker 3: be a cut of fifty basis points or half a percent.

1882
01:26:12,200 --> 01:26:16,120
Speaker 3: Paul Blocksham's aggbc's chief economists they Paul good A, right,

1883
01:26:16,160 --> 01:26:17,800
Speaker 3: do you reckon fifty basis points as well?

1884
01:26:18,960 --> 01:26:19,519
Speaker 4: Yeah, we do.

1885
01:26:19,600 --> 01:26:22,280
Speaker 23: We think that that's the right balance. We think the

1886
01:26:22,320 --> 01:26:25,400
Speaker 23: RBNZ will consider possibly even three options. They could look

1887
01:26:25,400 --> 01:26:28,599
Speaker 23: at the economy and say, look, actually, conditions are starting

1888
01:26:28,600 --> 01:26:30,720
Speaker 23: to look a little tiny bit better just in the

1889
01:26:30,720 --> 01:26:34,280
Speaker 23: recent indicators, and maybe judge that they only need to

1890
01:26:34,280 --> 01:26:36,639
Speaker 23: do twenty five. But on the other hand, inflations come

1891
01:26:36,640 --> 01:26:39,400
Speaker 23: down a long way, the economy is being quite weak

1892
01:26:39,439 --> 01:26:41,400
Speaker 23: for quite some time, and so they could even go

1893
01:26:41,439 --> 01:26:44,000
Speaker 23: as far as saying, well, actually maybe we should deliver

1894
01:26:44,080 --> 01:26:46,960
Speaker 23: seventy five, But we think on balance they'll net the

1895
01:26:47,000 --> 01:26:49,000
Speaker 23: two out and go. Look, fifty basis points is the

1896
01:26:49,120 --> 01:26:52,160
Speaker 23: right about the right move for them. It's obviously another

1897
01:26:52,640 --> 01:26:55,880
Speaker 23: bigger than usual move, and that would reflect the fact

1898
01:26:55,920 --> 01:26:58,760
Speaker 23: that inflations come down, growth has been very weak. They

1899
01:26:58,760 --> 01:27:02,320
Speaker 23: need to focus on lifting growth from here. And the

1900
01:27:02,360 --> 01:27:04,439
Speaker 23: other factor, of course, is that they don't have another

1901
01:27:04,520 --> 01:27:07,639
Speaker 23: meeting now for three months, so it's more than it's

1902
01:27:07,680 --> 01:27:10,240
Speaker 23: double the normal amount of time. So they'd be effectively

1903
01:27:10,280 --> 01:27:12,559
Speaker 23: delivering what would be twenty five at each of two

1904
01:27:12,640 --> 01:27:14,960
Speaker 23: meetings all together in a fifty basis point move. I

1905
01:27:15,000 --> 01:27:17,639
Speaker 23: don't think we can rule out the possibility that tomorrow

1906
01:27:17,640 --> 01:27:20,000
Speaker 23: they could do seventy five, but I think fifty is

1907
01:27:20,000 --> 01:27:21,880
Speaker 23: more likely, and so yes, that's the camp we're in

1908
01:27:21,920 --> 01:27:22,280
Speaker 23: as well.

1909
01:27:22,360 --> 01:27:24,479
Speaker 3: I mean, how is it even possible to be considering

1910
01:27:24,479 --> 01:27:26,720
Speaker 3: twenty five basis point cut when you consider the fact

1911
01:27:26,720 --> 01:27:28,919
Speaker 3: that Treasury has just come out and see the economy's

1912
01:27:28,920 --> 01:27:30,000
Speaker 3: worse than even they thought.

1913
01:27:31,280 --> 01:27:33,000
Speaker 23: Well, we think that they're going to weigh up all

1914
01:27:33,040 --> 01:27:35,519
Speaker 23: of these different options in terms of the way they

1915
01:27:35,600 --> 01:27:38,160
Speaker 23: look they look at things, and as I say, look,

1916
01:27:38,200 --> 01:27:41,080
Speaker 23: our central case is that they are going they'll say

1917
01:27:41,080 --> 01:27:42,680
Speaker 23: to themselves, no, we need to do a bit more

1918
01:27:42,720 --> 01:27:45,120
Speaker 23: than that. It needs to be an outsized move. We

1919
01:27:45,200 --> 01:27:47,760
Speaker 23: haven't got another meeting happening for another three months, and

1920
01:27:47,800 --> 01:27:49,840
Speaker 23: so it is likely that they'll do one that's a

1921
01:27:49,840 --> 01:27:52,320
Speaker 23: bit bigger than normal, so they'll do fifty. But to

1922
01:27:52,320 --> 01:27:54,320
Speaker 23: get yourself into the camp of saying they're going to

1923
01:27:54,360 --> 01:27:56,960
Speaker 23: go seventy five, I think it's a bit harder because

1924
01:27:57,040 --> 01:28:00,240
Speaker 23: that's a really, really large move. And yes, we've got

1925
01:28:00,680 --> 01:28:04,360
Speaker 23: some indications the card spending numbers have started to look

1926
01:28:04,360 --> 01:28:05,880
Speaker 23: a little bit better in the last couple of months.

1927
01:28:05,880 --> 01:28:08,479
Speaker 23: The housing market, some early sales tell source signs that

1928
01:28:08,479 --> 01:28:11,120
Speaker 23: things are starting to stabilize, not pick up, just starting

1929
01:28:11,160 --> 01:28:15,280
Speaker 23: to stabilize. The business surveys are telling us that businesses

1930
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Speaker 23: are seeing on the horizon they can see that well.

1931
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Speaker 23: With rate cuts coming, the economy looks as though it'll

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Speaker 23: start to turn around. And let's keep in mind, the

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Speaker 23: main thing that's been suppressing the economy has been those

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Speaker 23: interest rate rises.

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Speaker 4: That were delivered earlier.

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Speaker 23: The elevated level of interest rates has been the main

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Speaker 23: thing suppressing things and with purpose to get inflation to

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Speaker 23: come down. But as that gets taken away, the economy

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Speaker 23: should start to revive.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, now, tell me what you read on inflation in

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Speaker 3: New Zealand, because I see around the world there are

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Speaker 3: still little uptecks that should be causing some concern.

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Speaker 23: Well, this is something else to keep in mind, which

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Speaker 23: is that primarily so far, the disinflation, so inflation coming down,

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Speaker 23: the extent to which inflation has come down, has been

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Speaker 23: largely about goods prices coming down. It's been about that.

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Speaker 23: It hasn't been serve this inflation that slowed substantially. There's

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Speaker 23: still some domestic pockets of inflation that are still holding up,

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Speaker 23: and so this might be just another thing that would

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Speaker 23: temper the Arbianz's willingness to deliver an exceptionally large move,

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Speaker 23: you know, to go seventy five. So that's another factor

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Speaker 23: that we've got in mind, is that globally, look around

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Speaker 23: the world, we're starting to get a few little upside

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Speaker 23: surprises for some inflation prints. And the primary thing that's

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Speaker 23: been driving things so far has been this goods price

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Speaker 23: coming down. Domestic inflation in New Zealand has still not

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Speaker 23: quite come down enough to be to be completely comfortable.

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Speaker 3: Very interesting, Paul, thanks very much, man, appreciate it. Paul Block.

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Speaker 3: Some AHSBC chief economists hey, Heather, this text came in

1960
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Speaker 3: a while ago, and I need to quite a few

1961
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Speaker 3: along these lines. I'm sure someone will explain to you

1962
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Speaker 3: how laws passed. Keith Hollyoak was the Governor General when

1963
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Speaker 3: he signed the law relating to tea in the headdresses.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, Peter, that's quite right. By nineteen eighty Keith

1965
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Speaker 3: Hollyoak was in fact the Governor General. He was no

1966
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Speaker 3: longer the Prime Minister and he signed the law. So

1967
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Speaker 3: somebody else was that fault? For somebody else? A blind

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Speaker 3: for that stupid role seventeen So I don't want to

1969
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Speaker 3: h so, I don't want to speak ill of the dead.

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Speaker 3: It wasn't his fault. So we're going to clear that

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Speaker 3: up for him. Seventeen away from seven.

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Speaker 1: Whether it's macro micro or just playing economics.

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Speaker 2: It's all on the Business Hour with hither duple c

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Speaker 2: Allen and my HR the HR solution for busy SMEs

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Speaker 2: u stog Zipp in the.

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Speaker 3: Brady UK corresponding with us, now, hey, Inda.

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Speaker 9: Hey, he how are you well?

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Speaker 1: Good?

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Speaker 3: Thank you Mike. But why has this petition got so

1980
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Speaker 3: much traction? I mean, it's never gonna happen, is it so.

1981
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Speaker 27: A petition to have another general election, which we had

1982
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Speaker 27: one four months ago. Elon Musk retweeted it on his

1983
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Speaker 27: platform and the end result is it's gone off like

1984
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Speaker 27: a rocket, not quite as far as Mars, but up

1985
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Speaker 27: in the air and down like a damp squib because

1986
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Speaker 27: there's not going to be another election. It's I find

1987
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Speaker 27: it very very funny all the people calling for an

1988
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Speaker 27: election now immediately because Keir Starmer is so bad. Apparently

1989
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Speaker 27: these are the exact same people who told us after

1990
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Speaker 27: the breggs At referendum that we must respect democracy and

1991
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Speaker 27: we had her say and the people voted and we

1992
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Speaker 27: must listen to the people's voice. Well, the thing is,

1993
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Speaker 27: the people did vote here on July fourth, and Labor

1994
01:31:12,920 --> 01:31:15,639
Speaker 27: came back in with four hundred and twelve seats. Keir

1995
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Speaker 27: Starmer is not going to wake up in the morning

1996
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Speaker 27: here people, if we believe there are two million people

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Speaker 27: who signed this, because I think there's an awful lot,

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Speaker 27: from what I'm seeing, an awful lot of foreign interference

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Speaker 27: going on here. Kir Starmer's not going to wake up

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Speaker 27: tomorrow and Downing Street and say, gosh, we must have

2001
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Speaker 27: an election before Christmas. Turkeys and Christmas it's not going

2002
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Speaker 27: to happen.

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Speaker 3: No too right now, Okay, explain to me how Boris

2004
01:31:37,520 --> 01:31:40,720
Speaker 3: Johnson blames the obesity crisis on the Church of England.

2005
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Speaker 27: I thought it was April first when I saw the

2006
01:31:43,080 --> 01:31:46,840
Speaker 27: papers here this morning, but apparently it's not. There's an

2007
01:31:46,840 --> 01:31:51,439
Speaker 27: inquiry into Britain's obesity crisis, and let's speak frank here.

2008
01:31:51,560 --> 01:31:54,360
Speaker 27: There is a problem with weight. A lot of people

2009
01:31:54,479 --> 01:31:57,519
Speaker 27: are clinically obese in the UK right now. It has

2010
01:31:57,560 --> 01:32:01,439
Speaker 27: everything to do about diet and actress exercise and the

2011
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Speaker 27: lack of leadership we've seen in the last fourteen years

2012
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Speaker 27: on this Many of those years Boris Johnson was actually

2013
01:32:08,040 --> 01:32:10,439
Speaker 27: the Prime Minister, the one person who could actually do

2014
01:32:10,479 --> 01:32:13,760
Speaker 27: something about health policy. He's been asked to take part

2015
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Speaker 27: in this report and along with other previous Prime ministers

2016
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Speaker 27: and health secretaries, he has given his thoughts. And the

2017
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Speaker 27: problem he has here, of course, is he fell out

2018
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Speaker 27: years ago at the Archbishop of Canterbury, the guy who

2019
01:32:26,640 --> 01:32:29,439
Speaker 27: just quit justin Welby. So he's putting the knife into

2020
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Speaker 27: Welby and the church. Boris Johnson says that people in

2021
01:32:33,040 --> 01:32:36,519
Speaker 27: Britain are so desperate for the bread of life, the

2022
01:32:36,560 --> 01:32:40,360
Speaker 27: bread of Christ. He said that their spiritual needs are

2023
01:32:40,400 --> 01:32:43,040
Speaker 27: being ignored by the Church of England. And he said

2024
01:32:43,080 --> 01:32:45,240
Speaker 27: the bread of life is being provided by the major

2025
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Speaker 27: supermarket Tesco, and in Johnson's words, people are gorging themselves

2026
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Speaker 27: on it. He points out that when he was a kid,

2027
01:32:52,560 --> 01:32:54,960
Speaker 27: he said he couldn't say this publicly because he'd be shot.

2028
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Speaker 27: He said, when he was a kid, there were no

2029
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Speaker 27: fat soles in his class. And he said, and this

2030
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Speaker 27: is his word, so, by the way, before anyone jumps

2031
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Speaker 27: on me, he said, nowadays every single kid is a

2032
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Speaker 27: fat so and he said, you're not allowed to say it.

2033
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Speaker 27: So he's had a right all runt today. I mean,

2034
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Speaker 27: if anyone's in need of cheering up and living on

2035
01:33:12,680 --> 01:33:16,759
Speaker 27: a slightly different universe for five minutes, find the Johnson interview.

2036
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Speaker 1: It is jaw droppingly bad.

2037
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Speaker 22: Oh.

2038
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Speaker 3: I didn't realize he was such a good squatter.

2039
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Speaker 1: He's not.

2040
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Speaker 27: I think he lives up the road from me, and

2041
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Speaker 27: I think he's bored out with his brain and I

2042
01:33:27,920 --> 01:33:29,960
Speaker 27: think on a Sunday, the only thing to do is

2043
01:33:30,040 --> 01:33:32,679
Speaker 27: that little church, and he's gone along with his family.

2044
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Speaker 27: He's not massively religious. He would probably quote various different

2045
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Speaker 27: chunks of the Bible that were hammered into him at

2046
01:33:39,040 --> 01:33:42,439
Speaker 27: Eaton at some stage when he was ten. But I think,

2047
01:33:42,560 --> 01:33:46,400
Speaker 27: you know, respecting his beliefs and everything, the problem in

2048
01:33:46,439 --> 01:33:49,560
Speaker 27: Britain and Britain's obesity issue. Bearing in mind this is

2049
01:33:49,560 --> 01:33:51,360
Speaker 27: the guy he nearly died because he was so fat

2050
01:33:51,479 --> 01:33:54,400
Speaker 27: during COVID. I mean, you couldn't make this up. The

2051
01:33:54,439 --> 01:33:59,280
Speaker 27: problem comes from consecutive governments taking no interest whatsoever in

2052
01:33:59,320 --> 01:34:02,759
Speaker 27: what children are eating. And I think to a point,

2053
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Speaker 27: he absolutely has a point that there are a lot

2054
01:34:05,960 --> 01:34:09,920
Speaker 27: of rather obese kids around nowadays. But boris Johnson going

2055
01:34:09,960 --> 01:34:12,280
Speaker 27: out and calling everyone a fat sol And to help

2056
01:34:12,360 --> 01:34:15,439
Speaker 27: illustrate the issue, The Times newspaper have put a picture

2057
01:34:15,479 --> 01:34:20,519
Speaker 27: of Johnson up in his jogging days. It's not great look,

2058
01:34:20,680 --> 01:34:23,880
Speaker 27: but in all honesty, if he had this level of

2059
01:34:23,920 --> 01:34:26,839
Speaker 27: passion about Britain's obesity crisis while he was Prime Minister,

2060
01:34:27,080 --> 01:34:28,720
Speaker 27: he could have done a long way to solving it.

2061
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Speaker 3: You know, I'm going to google this picture right now

2062
01:34:30,960 --> 01:34:32,960
Speaker 3: and have a look at him and jogging year. Thank

2063
01:34:33,000 --> 01:34:33,639
Speaker 3: you for that. Ended.

2064
01:34:33,800 --> 01:34:34,400
Speaker 27: It's not good.

2065
01:34:34,560 --> 01:34:38,439
Speaker 3: It's not cool, No, it really isn't. Wow, it's quite

2066
01:34:38,520 --> 01:34:40,880
Speaker 3: enough to turn you off all men. Hey Da, thanks

2067
01:34:41,120 --> 01:34:45,000
Speaker 3: very much, really appreciated. Into Brady UK correspondent. Listen, I

2068
01:34:45,160 --> 01:34:47,559
Speaker 3: just want to say this before you get angry with me.

2069
01:34:48,160 --> 01:34:51,040
Speaker 3: When I say God squad, I do not say that

2070
01:34:51,120 --> 01:34:54,040
Speaker 3: in a derogatory way. I say that with love. It's

2071
01:34:54,120 --> 01:34:56,240
Speaker 3: kind of like you can criticize your own family, you know,

2072
01:34:56,280 --> 01:34:58,240
Speaker 3: like if other people criticize your family, it's not okay.

2073
01:34:58,240 --> 01:34:59,800
Speaker 3: But you can criticize it. You can call your brother

2074
01:34:59,840 --> 01:35:02,080
Speaker 3: like a you can say my brother's mental, my mom's

2075
01:35:02,080 --> 01:35:04,599
Speaker 3: a psycho. But if other people say that, that's not okay.

2076
01:35:04,840 --> 01:35:07,040
Speaker 3: So I'm saying that within the family right because I've

2077
01:35:07,040 --> 01:35:09,800
Speaker 3: spent my entire childhood at church. So I'm just just

2078
01:35:09,840 --> 01:35:12,080
Speaker 3: clearing that up. Just clearing that up right now, so

2079
01:35:12,080 --> 01:35:13,800
Speaker 3: you can put your phone down. Don't send me a

2080
01:35:13,880 --> 01:35:16,400
Speaker 3: nasty text. Nine two nine two No. No, I don't

2081
01:35:16,439 --> 01:35:18,040
Speaker 3: know why I'm telling you the number because I don't

2082
01:35:18,040 --> 01:35:21,920
Speaker 3: want the nasty text. I was just absolutely muscle memory forget.

2083
01:35:21,960 --> 01:35:23,280
Speaker 3: I said that immediately.

2084
01:35:23,360 --> 01:35:25,120
Speaker 28: So what we're saying is, don't take your phone and

2085
01:35:25,160 --> 01:35:27,680
Speaker 28: text anything to two especially.

2086
01:35:29,640 --> 01:35:30,000
Speaker 10: Excellent.

2087
01:35:30,720 --> 01:35:33,400
Speaker 3: I've just totally set myself up every night anyway. That's

2088
01:35:33,479 --> 01:35:35,719
Speaker 3: what happens when you just run your mouth off without thinking,

2089
01:35:35,760 --> 01:35:38,120
Speaker 3: which actually exactly what Boris Johnson just did. Can I

2090
01:35:38,160 --> 01:35:40,360
Speaker 3: just say something really cool? There is a thirteen year

2091
01:35:40,400 --> 01:35:43,839
Speaker 3: old Indian boy. I just got to deal with the IPL.

2092
01:35:45,240 --> 01:35:48,600
Speaker 3: This kid is obviously the youngest player ever. Previously, the

2093
01:35:48,640 --> 01:35:51,360
Speaker 3: youngest player to be signed by the IPL is a

2094
01:35:51,400 --> 01:35:55,000
Speaker 3: sixteen year old. This kid made headlines recently because he

2095
01:35:55,000 --> 01:35:58,920
Speaker 3: smashed one hundred of fifty eight balls playing for the

2096
01:35:58,960 --> 01:36:03,559
Speaker 3: India undernine teens against the Australia Under nineteens. Now, just

2097
01:36:03,680 --> 01:36:08,600
Speaker 3: understand this right, India is a is a cricketing superpower.

2098
01:36:09,120 --> 01:36:12,320
Speaker 3: So how awesome are you if you have made the

2099
01:36:12,400 --> 01:36:16,519
Speaker 3: under nineteen squad in India when you're thirteen? Like this

2100
01:36:16,640 --> 01:36:18,720
Speaker 3: kid is a prodigy. I mean, something could go wrong,

2101
01:36:18,960 --> 01:36:21,000
Speaker 3: couldn't it. You know how some kids are really smart

2102
01:36:21,520 --> 01:36:23,240
Speaker 3: until all of a sudden they hit like sixteen and

2103
01:36:23,960 --> 01:36:26,040
Speaker 3: brained like And maybe that's that's what he is. Maybe

2104
01:36:26,040 --> 01:36:27,680
Speaker 3: he's just awesome at cricket now and he won't be

2105
01:36:27,680 --> 01:36:30,320
Speaker 3: in the future, but I'm guessing here will. He got

2106
01:36:30,400 --> 01:36:35,080
Speaker 3: sold for two hundred and twenty four thousand New Zealand dollars.

2107
01:36:35,080 --> 01:36:37,760
Speaker 3: That's not bad given that the guy that we just

2108
01:36:37,800 --> 01:36:41,040
Speaker 3: produced who's done ninety to twenty matches for Auckland and

2109
01:36:41,080 --> 01:36:45,080
Speaker 3: we think he's cool. BJ whatever Jacobson or whatever his

2110
01:36:45,120 --> 01:36:47,400
Speaker 3: surname is. He just got sold for sixty thousand. So

2111
01:36:47,439 --> 01:36:50,559
Speaker 3: this little boy has just beat BJ anyway. He was

2112
01:36:50,560 --> 01:36:53,280
Speaker 3: born in March twenty eleven. That's the same month that

2113
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Speaker 3: Fakashima exploded, in the same month that Charlie Sheen got

2114
01:36:56,000 --> 01:36:57,800
Speaker 3: fired from Two and a half Men. That's when he

2115
01:36:57,880 --> 01:37:01,439
Speaker 3: was born. It is that I wish I could tell

2116
01:37:01,479 --> 01:37:02,840
Speaker 3: you his name so you could remember him. You're not

2117
01:37:03,120 --> 01:37:06,080
Speaker 3: going to remember ages before he's famous. But how good?

2118
01:37:06,720 --> 01:37:08,000
Speaker 3: Seven away from seven.

2119
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Speaker 2: Getting ready for a new administration in the US, what

2120
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Speaker 2: will be the impact? It's the Business Hour with Heather

2121
01:37:14,920 --> 01:37:18,679
Speaker 2: Duplassy Allen and my HR the HR solution for busy

2122
01:37:18,800 --> 01:37:20,040
Speaker 2: SMEs news talks.

2123
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Speaker 3: That'd be Evan John Jacobs. That's the name of the

2124
01:37:23,160 --> 01:37:24,880
Speaker 3: cricket player. Can I just tell you this is a

2125
01:37:24,880 --> 01:37:27,680
Speaker 3: thing that you'll notice with South Africans. South Africans love

2126
01:37:27,720 --> 01:37:31,479
Speaker 3: to hyphenate the first name because Bevan John. He's a

2127
01:37:31,520 --> 01:37:34,080
Speaker 3: South African, isn't he. And when I was young, my

2128
01:37:34,200 --> 01:37:36,400
Speaker 3: best friend at school had a brother called Trevor John

2129
01:37:36,920 --> 01:37:39,439
Speaker 3: that was hyphenated as well. And then you've got that

2130
01:37:39,439 --> 01:37:43,040
Speaker 3: that that rugby player picked Steph de Toy that's hyphenated

2131
01:37:43,040 --> 01:37:45,120
Speaker 3: at the front as well. So yeah, there you go.

2132
01:37:45,280 --> 01:37:47,240
Speaker 3: That's the thing. Now now that you know, I'm telling

2133
01:37:47,240 --> 01:37:49,040
Speaker 3: you this just so you can notice it, and now

2134
01:37:49,040 --> 01:37:50,680
Speaker 3: that I've said it, you're not going to not notice it.

2135
01:37:50,720 --> 01:37:52,280
Speaker 3: You're going to notice it everywhere with all the South

2136
01:37:52,320 --> 01:37:56,759
Speaker 3: Africans hyphenating the first name. Congratulations to Nelson just quickly

2137
01:37:56,760 --> 01:37:59,000
Speaker 3: because it's finally got a park run, got the first

2138
01:37:59,000 --> 01:38:01,640
Speaker 3: park run on Saturday. Last city in the country to

2139
01:38:01,640 --> 01:38:03,439
Speaker 3: get a park run. Park round, if you're not aware

2140
01:38:03,439 --> 01:38:05,040
Speaker 3: of it, is where people turn up at the Cracker

2141
01:38:05,080 --> 01:38:07,439
Speaker 3: Dawn on a Saturday and run five k's or jog

2142
01:38:07,520 --> 01:38:11,000
Speaker 3: five k's or walk five k's or you know, wheelchair whatever.

2143
01:38:11,320 --> 01:38:14,040
Speaker 3: They do it and it's massive. It started in London

2144
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Speaker 3: twenty years ago and it's just gone global. And I

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Speaker 3: don't really understand the appeal of it because you could

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Speaker 3: basically run your five k's whenever you want during the

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Speaker 3: day by yourself. But I think it is basically because

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Speaker 3: it gets notched up. It's like an official thing, so

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Speaker 3: you can count how many park runs you've done in

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Speaker 3: your life and feel stoked with yourself. That's what I

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Speaker 3: think is going on. But I stand to be corrected.

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Speaker 28: And Pumpkin suit by Kate Nash to play us out tonight,

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Speaker 28: just with her revelation that she's gonna put her button

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Speaker 28: only fans to make ends meet and giving us that

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Speaker 28: new story today, I thought we should play some of

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Speaker 28: their music so she's at least a doting some of

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Speaker 28: the money from me.

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Speaker 3: Okay, peace. Laura the producer said to me, how do

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Speaker 3: you not know who Kate Nash is. I don't know

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Speaker 3: who Kate Nashes. I've never heard any Kate Nash. You've

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Speaker 3: played me two Kate Nash songs. I don't know why

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Speaker 3: either of them. And it's very medium.

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Speaker 28: Yeah, to be fair, I was introduced to the song

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Speaker 28: for the first time today, But Foundations, the one I

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Speaker 28: played between four and five, I think to this day

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Speaker 28: is still I didn't actually know who it was by.

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Speaker 13: Because that was the only one I will promoted.

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Speaker 28: But it's brilliant, it's yeah, it's great, it right, sign

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Speaker 28: up on that song any day of the week, all.

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Speaker 3: Right, Well, and you've got a high standard, although we're

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Speaker 3: not forgetting about the Green Day thing.

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Speaker 28: Yeah, over the weekend, and they all like the American

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Speaker 28: idiot as well, So I don't know where you're getting

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Speaker 28: your information either.

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Speaker 3: Yeah I did. Look, I don't know. I can't argue

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Speaker 3: against this is just anyway. This sounds horrific, doesn't it anyway?

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Speaker 3: Enjoy see tomorrow

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