1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,079 Speaker 1: Let's go now to mining, because the Prime Minister mentioned 2 00:00:03,080 --> 00:00:05,800 Speaker 1: that in his address yesterday too shared the importance of 3 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:08,159 Speaker 1: minerals in New Zealand and our bid for growth, this 4 00:00:08,400 --> 00:00:11,680 Speaker 1: drive for growth, and it's an endorsement that Luxon says 5 00:00:11,720 --> 00:00:14,640 Speaker 1: that won't be to everyone's liking. Shane Jones is the 6 00:00:14,680 --> 00:00:15,960 Speaker 1: Resources minister. Minister. 7 00:00:16,160 --> 00:00:18,840 Speaker 2: Good morning, Yeah, greedings fus. 8 00:00:19,079 --> 00:00:21,639 Speaker 1: We just heard there from Marcus about the oil and 9 00:00:21,680 --> 00:00:23,880 Speaker 1: gas band. You guys were in government when that happened, 10 00:00:23,880 --> 00:00:24,240 Speaker 1: won't you. 11 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:28,920 Speaker 2: Worst decision I was ever associated with was sprung on 12 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:34,360 Speaker 2: us by Sinda Adern. Fortunately it's in the dim pass 13 00:00:34,400 --> 00:00:37,239 Speaker 2: and I can guarantee if it is covered up in 14 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:42,440 Speaker 2: her unwanted new book, I'll be the first to criticize it. 15 00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:45,239 Speaker 1: If it's not factual, no doubt you'll be doing a 16 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:50,200 Speaker 1: deep dive on that. Let's talk about the opportunities for mining. 17 00:00:50,440 --> 00:00:52,239 Speaker 1: We were now about the fast track. We've got the 18 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:55,000 Speaker 1: list of fast tracks. I've been looking this morning at 19 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:58,480 Speaker 1: your list of minerals, your critical minerals. Are you going 20 00:00:58,520 --> 00:01:01,280 Speaker 1: to announce this year new areas that you'll open up 21 00:01:01,360 --> 00:01:01,840 Speaker 1: for mining? 22 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:07,800 Speaker 2: Thirty fist of January, orbit Yhi, Where I'm making a 23 00:01:07,959 --> 00:01:12,560 Speaker 2: major speech related to the mining industry and related economic matters. 24 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:17,119 Speaker 2: I'll remind everyone there's an additional two point five billion 25 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:20,959 Speaker 2: dollars worth of export revenue, probably another two thy five 26 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:24,919 Speaker 2: hundred jobs just on the projects associated with the fast 27 00:01:24,959 --> 00:01:28,600 Speaker 2: track alone. But we're going to do a big dive 28 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:33,959 Speaker 2: and say to Kiwis, we have an inordinately large dock estate, 29 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:37,160 Speaker 2: much of which is overrun with weasels and rats and 30 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 2: stoakes and noxious weeds. Much of that dock estate is 31 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:46,319 Speaker 2: suitable for quirying and mining, and we need to get 32 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:50,360 Speaker 2: over ourselves because if we want the surplus income and 33 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:55,200 Speaker 2: the revenue, we should identify which areas are really precious 34 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:57,680 Speaker 2: to the birthright of Kiwis and which areas can be 35 00:01:57,760 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 2: used for economic purposes, including mining. 36 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:02,720 Speaker 1: Are you talking about stewardshipland that land that's on the 37 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:05,480 Speaker 1: conservation estate but hasn't yet been categorized. 38 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:10,560 Speaker 2: Stuardship land is not dockland. Stewardship land is land that 39 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 2: should and will be made available for economic purposes. Sadly, 40 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:19,480 Speaker 2: it's been weaponized and captured by these green fusspots who 41 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 2: could testrifize every utann, every example of mining. 42 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 1: Just so weirdly, so, you're talking about opening up stewardship land, 43 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:30,320 Speaker 1: which is nine percent of our land area, to mining, 44 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:34,079 Speaker 1: as well as dockland as well as conservation estate. 45 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:39,680 Speaker 2: Stewardship dockland is already used in some cases for mining. 46 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:44,360 Speaker 2: That's already effect. Studship land can be made available not 47 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 2: only for mining but for other economic purposes. But a 48 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:53,200 Speaker 2: lot of the fast track proposals are not on dockland. 49 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:57,840 Speaker 2: For example, there's Santana project is on private land on 50 00:02:57,880 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 2: the Bendigo station. These are all projects that will generate 51 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:07,840 Speaker 2: not only jobs, but highly sought after economic revenue. You look, 52 00:03:08,040 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 2: the day before yesterday, I was with seven or eight 53 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 2: international analysts coming out of London Toronto and they said 54 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:16,840 Speaker 2: to me, and they've been down here to sign off 55 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:20,440 Speaker 2: a major transaction and extension of capital for existing projects. 56 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:24,000 Speaker 2: They said to me, if the fast track is implemented 57 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:26,519 Speaker 2: in the vein that the legislation was passed, you will 58 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 2: drown an avalanche of North American capital. There is no 59 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:34,639 Speaker 2: other regime that they know of in either the states 60 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 2: of the States of Australia or the States of the 61 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:42,200 Speaker 2: US that will have the capacity to allocate with this 62 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:44,720 Speaker 2: efficiency statued reconsense. 63 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:46,520 Speaker 1: All right, minister, thanks for your time. This morning was 64 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 1: ALSOS Minister Shane Jones saying it's all on for young 65 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:51,000 Speaker 1: and old thirty first of January. He'll be making announcement 66 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:54,040 Speaker 1: in May. He and it sounds like dock land, stewardship land, 67 00:03:54,040 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 1: doesn't really matter what it's called, it's all. 68 00:03:55,760 --> 00:03:58,760 Speaker 2: Up for grand. 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