1 00:00:06,667 --> 00:00:10,387 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Weekend Sport podcast with Jason Vine 2 00:00:10,707 --> 00:00:11,747 Speaker 1: from News Talks EDB. 3 00:00:12,747 --> 00:00:15,267 Speaker 2: It is my great pleasure to welcome into the News 4 00:00:15,267 --> 00:00:20,867 Speaker 2: Talks HEB studio the president of the International Ice Hockey Federation, 5 00:00:21,467 --> 00:00:26,427 Speaker 2: Luke Tardif, who is with us. Welcome in, Luke, Welcome 6 00:00:26,467 --> 00:00:28,947 Speaker 2: to New Zealand. Welcome to News Talks EDB. What is 7 00:00:28,947 --> 00:00:30,747 Speaker 2: it that brings you to New Zealand? 8 00:00:31,947 --> 00:00:32,347 Speaker 3: Thank you? 9 00:00:32,507 --> 00:00:36,547 Speaker 4: So since a long time I wanted to to come 10 00:00:36,547 --> 00:00:40,627 Speaker 4: in New Zealand, but uh, that was the best time 11 00:00:40,667 --> 00:00:45,467 Speaker 4: to come a tournament, pretty soon to tournament and UH 12 00:00:45,587 --> 00:00:50,787 Speaker 4: and also we. 13 00:00:49,147 --> 00:00:50,427 Speaker 3: We work together. 14 00:00:52,587 --> 00:00:56,587 Speaker 4: And he is involved in the International in the in 15 00:00:56,987 --> 00:01:01,267 Speaker 4: in the commission, so that was about time that I 16 00:01:01,427 --> 00:01:06,787 Speaker 4: come to help him meet the high authority sport authority 17 00:01:06,947 --> 00:01:11,907 Speaker 4: here in in New Zealand to to talk about ice 18 00:01:11,947 --> 00:01:15,107 Speaker 4: hockey and UH and also to help the federation with 19 00:01:15,267 --> 00:01:21,107 Speaker 4: a uh to to to get better and and and 20 00:01:21,267 --> 00:01:23,827 Speaker 4: need some help. And that's always good to come like 21 00:01:23,867 --> 00:01:28,267 Speaker 4: that to see exactly on site what they need. How 22 00:01:28,387 --> 00:01:32,867 Speaker 4: is it and UH, that's always interesting. 23 00:01:34,267 --> 00:01:37,347 Speaker 2: Tell us about your job as president of the International 24 00:01:37,787 --> 00:01:40,907 Speaker 2: Ice Hockey Federation. What are your key responsibilities? 25 00:01:41,947 --> 00:01:49,427 Speaker 4: First of all, the International Federation got to coordinate all 26 00:01:49,547 --> 00:01:55,267 Speaker 4: the competition in the world with private league, with the 27 00:01:55,307 --> 00:02:00,547 Speaker 4: Olympic and uh and also there is not only the tup. 28 00:02:01,827 --> 00:02:06,147 Speaker 4: There is what we call the the competition of development. 29 00:02:07,947 --> 00:02:15,427 Speaker 4: First the woman under eighteen, under twenty and all the development. 30 00:02:15,547 --> 00:02:18,907 Speaker 4: So that means the education of coach and everything. So 31 00:02:18,947 --> 00:02:26,027 Speaker 4: that's our job, and I think my most important job 32 00:02:26,107 --> 00:02:31,227 Speaker 4: is in IHF. There is international so that means try 33 00:02:31,307 --> 00:02:35,827 Speaker 4: to bring isaake all over the world and even some 34 00:02:36,227 --> 00:02:40,627 Speaker 4: place that you never thought Oki can be played. 35 00:02:41,307 --> 00:02:46,067 Speaker 2: You have eighty five member nations, all at different levels 36 00:02:46,507 --> 00:02:52,107 Speaker 2: of their development, varying needs, lots of different economies, cultures, etc. 37 00:02:52,867 --> 00:02:57,827 Speaker 2: How do you navigate such variance within your member nations. 38 00:02:58,987 --> 00:03:02,907 Speaker 4: Yes, but first of all I talk about the development 39 00:03:02,947 --> 00:03:06,787 Speaker 4: all over the world. So we have to our organize 40 00:03:06,827 --> 00:03:12,467 Speaker 4: the Top Heaven competition. It will be next month in Stockholm. 41 00:03:12,467 --> 00:03:18,867 Speaker 4: That's our main organization and that's important also because the 42 00:03:18,867 --> 00:03:26,827 Speaker 4: the income of this World Championship made possible to maintain 43 00:03:26,907 --> 00:03:32,587 Speaker 4: all the activity of development what I call the nonprofit organization, 44 00:03:32,747 --> 00:03:37,227 Speaker 4: so the female tournament under twenty, under eighteen and all 45 00:03:37,347 --> 00:03:43,747 Speaker 4: the division under so that's important to keep this high 46 00:03:43,867 --> 00:03:50,947 Speaker 4: level competition because it's it's going to help us to 47 00:03:51,267 --> 00:03:58,907 Speaker 4: do all the rest so and the international So that 48 00:03:58,987 --> 00:04:02,187 Speaker 4: means that's a that's what I'm doing here. 49 00:04:02,267 --> 00:04:04,387 Speaker 3: So that means not the. 50 00:04:04,867 --> 00:04:07,907 Speaker 4: Historical place for eyesc that's more rugby, but there is 51 00:04:07,947 --> 00:04:11,067 Speaker 4: a place for AACHI. But I have to be there 52 00:04:11,107 --> 00:04:13,507 Speaker 4: by the side of the federation to convince that we 53 00:04:13,667 --> 00:04:18,947 Speaker 4: do that seriously, that we are happy about our member 54 00:04:20,427 --> 00:04:25,747 Speaker 4: because he's doing the things online of the sports policy 55 00:04:26,147 --> 00:04:35,147 Speaker 4: of IHF. So that means our job is somewhere more development. 56 00:04:35,387 --> 00:04:43,547 Speaker 4: Because outside organized the competition for the high level Canada, USA, Finland, Russia, 57 00:04:43,707 --> 00:04:47,827 Speaker 4: they don't need me to for the development, but all 58 00:04:48,067 --> 00:04:53,547 Speaker 4: the new member that's where that's where I have to 59 00:04:53,707 --> 00:04:54,707 Speaker 4: be by the side. 60 00:04:55,147 --> 00:04:59,027 Speaker 2: How important is the growth and development of the female game? 61 00:04:59,747 --> 00:05:03,347 Speaker 4: Oh, just to give you an idea, we made a 62 00:05:03,387 --> 00:05:09,067 Speaker 4: calculation just that that's uh two weeks ago and after 63 00:05:09,227 --> 00:05:15,027 Speaker 4: the COVID we get an increase of somewhere five point 64 00:05:15,107 --> 00:05:16,147 Speaker 4: five percent of. 65 00:05:17,707 --> 00:05:21,907 Speaker 3: Male players but twenty five for the woman. So there 66 00:05:21,987 --> 00:05:22,227 Speaker 3: is a. 67 00:05:23,987 --> 00:05:27,147 Speaker 4: Huge progression everywhere in the world and sometimes in a 68 00:05:27,507 --> 00:05:31,627 Speaker 4: different country that you never expect. Here in the tournament, 69 00:05:31,627 --> 00:05:37,787 Speaker 4: there is female team from Turkey Iron is playing also, 70 00:05:38,427 --> 00:05:42,707 Speaker 4: and no, there is a I think that's not only 71 00:05:42,787 --> 00:05:48,147 Speaker 4: Isaki that's female sport in globally, but for Isaky that's 72 00:05:48,347 --> 00:05:49,307 Speaker 4: really spectacular. 73 00:05:50,067 --> 00:05:53,267 Speaker 2: What's the nature of your relationship with the NHL and 74 00:05:53,347 --> 00:05:55,907 Speaker 2: other professional leagues the top legs around. 75 00:05:55,707 --> 00:05:59,387 Speaker 4: The world, because there is an HL, but there is 76 00:05:59,507 --> 00:06:02,667 Speaker 4: KHL that's a Russian league. At the moment, the relations 77 00:06:02,667 --> 00:06:05,787 Speaker 4: are a little bit on standby if I can say 78 00:06:07,107 --> 00:06:08,027 Speaker 4: about the NHL. 79 00:06:08,347 --> 00:06:09,467 Speaker 3: First of all, we. 80 00:06:11,107 --> 00:06:15,027 Speaker 4: Took two years of negotiation to try to bring them 81 00:06:15,107 --> 00:06:16,147 Speaker 4: back in the Olympic. 82 00:06:17,347 --> 00:06:18,227 Speaker 3: We're almost there. 83 00:06:19,307 --> 00:06:23,747 Speaker 4: No, I think since soci we didn't have an HL 84 00:06:24,107 --> 00:06:28,347 Speaker 4: for a lot of reason, but now we're going to 85 00:06:28,427 --> 00:06:32,307 Speaker 4: make it. We're trying to not only for one Olympic, 86 00:06:32,387 --> 00:06:36,347 Speaker 4: but maybe two, and the third one is in Salt 87 00:06:36,427 --> 00:06:42,507 Speaker 4: Lake City, so it should naturally the NHL should be there. 88 00:06:43,827 --> 00:06:45,667 Speaker 3: So there is this. 89 00:06:47,027 --> 00:06:51,347 Speaker 4: For our competition the Olympic. But after that also we 90 00:06:51,907 --> 00:06:55,187 Speaker 4: want because they want to come somewhere in the market 91 00:06:55,267 --> 00:07:00,187 Speaker 4: of Europe, so we organize our wors championship in Europe. 92 00:07:00,427 --> 00:07:05,587 Speaker 4: So we want a certain coordination. We are a nonprofit organization. 93 00:07:05,707 --> 00:07:10,867 Speaker 4: They're coming to make money, so sometimes we have to 94 00:07:10,987 --> 00:07:14,307 Speaker 4: make sure that there is an understanding who's doing what, 95 00:07:15,107 --> 00:07:21,147 Speaker 4: because in the coordination of our competition, we want to 96 00:07:21,187 --> 00:07:25,867 Speaker 4: protect our word championship, so that on this side that's 97 00:07:26,227 --> 00:07:33,467 Speaker 4: not an easy relationship. But somewhere our passion is the 98 00:07:33,547 --> 00:07:37,267 Speaker 4: same sport. They want more make money with this than 99 00:07:37,587 --> 00:07:41,907 Speaker 4: than I want. But we have to live with this 100 00:07:42,187 --> 00:07:46,787 Speaker 4: because I think there is a turn. A lot of 101 00:07:47,187 --> 00:07:53,387 Speaker 4: private organization are coming in in UH in the business 102 00:07:52,227 --> 00:07:57,307 Speaker 4: of international competition, there is a lot of track and 103 00:07:57,387 --> 00:08:01,947 Speaker 4: field private organization where they give price money. Sometimes the 104 00:08:02,027 --> 00:08:04,747 Speaker 4: athletes they will go where there is money and they 105 00:08:05,067 --> 00:08:09,347 Speaker 4: they are not coming that tray. So it's really difficult 106 00:08:09,387 --> 00:08:20,667 Speaker 4: for international federation. That's a natural process. But if international 107 00:08:20,707 --> 00:08:24,747 Speaker 4: federation doesn't take care of all the development, who's going 108 00:08:24,827 --> 00:08:29,907 Speaker 4: to do that the custom money? So that's not good 109 00:08:29,907 --> 00:08:33,787 Speaker 4: for a to take older. That's something who I'm really 110 00:08:33,827 --> 00:08:37,947 Speaker 4: worried about what's coming and but we have to continue 111 00:08:37,947 --> 00:08:44,947 Speaker 4: to fight and protect our our I say that our system. 112 00:08:45,387 --> 00:08:48,187 Speaker 2: The return of the INNHL appliers to the Olympics, the 113 00:08:48,227 --> 00:08:51,667 Speaker 2: Winter Olympics. As an understand it's as you say, pretty 114 00:08:51,747 --> 00:08:53,747 Speaker 2: much done for twenty twenty six and twenty thirty and 115 00:08:53,827 --> 00:08:56,747 Speaker 2: in Salt Lake City it seems obvious, so hopefully that's 116 00:08:56,947 --> 00:08:59,547 Speaker 2: a permanent thing. How significant is that to have in 117 00:08:59,827 --> 00:09:01,507 Speaker 2: HL pliers back at the Olympics. 118 00:09:02,027 --> 00:09:05,187 Speaker 4: For first of all, as an international federation, you have 119 00:09:05,227 --> 00:09:10,147 Speaker 4: to organize and try to bring the best player all 120 00:09:10,187 --> 00:09:14,387 Speaker 4: the time, even for a world championship, but the schedule 121 00:09:14,427 --> 00:09:16,707 Speaker 4: of NHL is not completely We got a lot of 122 00:09:16,827 --> 00:09:19,427 Speaker 4: NHL player, but sometimes those who are in the semi 123 00:09:19,507 --> 00:09:23,267 Speaker 4: final final, they cannot participate. Our job that's to do that, 124 00:09:23,987 --> 00:09:29,787 Speaker 4: but that's not so easy because now they've got huge contracts. 125 00:09:29,787 --> 00:09:32,347 Speaker 4: So you mean the ansurance just to give you an 126 00:09:32,387 --> 00:09:38,987 Speaker 4: idea for this Olympic game to insert all the player 127 00:09:39,187 --> 00:09:44,227 Speaker 4: and now we get a professional woman league, So that's more. 128 00:09:45,067 --> 00:09:51,227 Speaker 4: We're talking about twelve or between twelve and thirteen million 129 00:09:51,947 --> 00:09:56,667 Speaker 4: to answer. And now NHL they had the discussion with 130 00:09:56,787 --> 00:10:00,667 Speaker 4: the NHLPA and they increase the salary cap. So that 131 00:10:00,787 --> 00:10:05,027 Speaker 4: means in twenty thirty we're going to have another increase 132 00:10:05,067 --> 00:10:09,387 Speaker 4: of not for the eighty or one hundred percent. So 133 00:10:09,787 --> 00:10:13,947 Speaker 4: I'm worried because one day maybe it will make it 134 00:10:13,947 --> 00:10:19,427 Speaker 4: them possible. But step by step, focused on Milano. After that, we'll. 135 00:10:19,267 --> 00:10:22,947 Speaker 2: See all right, and three on three hockey, you've been 136 00:10:22,987 --> 00:10:26,707 Speaker 2: experimenting with that with a view to its potential inclusion 137 00:10:26,747 --> 00:10:30,027 Speaker 2: in the Winter Olympics twenty thirty. I think, how confided 138 00:10:30,067 --> 00:10:31,907 Speaker 2: are you that that three on three will be an 139 00:10:31,907 --> 00:10:32,587 Speaker 2: Olympic sport? 140 00:10:32,827 --> 00:10:38,107 Speaker 4: Yeah, first of all, that's we really, we really want 141 00:10:38,147 --> 00:10:42,347 Speaker 4: to push that because if you follow the Olympic game 142 00:10:42,427 --> 00:10:46,787 Speaker 4: in Paris, the success of rugby seven, the three on 143 00:10:46,907 --> 00:10:48,787 Speaker 4: three basketball. 144 00:10:49,827 --> 00:10:52,947 Speaker 3: Earlier, that was visually that's another. 145 00:10:53,467 --> 00:10:58,107 Speaker 4: So that means I really believe in that a new format, 146 00:10:58,267 --> 00:11:04,947 Speaker 4: more adapted to the new generation. You know, watch a 147 00:11:05,147 --> 00:11:08,227 Speaker 4: hockey game two hours and a half the kids that 148 00:11:08,307 --> 00:11:15,067 Speaker 4: they are more zapping, and like when you look at 149 00:11:15,147 --> 00:11:21,227 Speaker 4: rugby seven, you better to watch because that's short time 150 00:11:21,547 --> 00:11:25,707 Speaker 4: that sentence. And I think you can play two games, 151 00:11:25,787 --> 00:11:27,227 Speaker 4: three games and in the same day. 152 00:11:27,307 --> 00:11:28,707 Speaker 3: That's more. 153 00:11:32,187 --> 00:11:39,147 Speaker 4: According to the new generations. And I think also it's 154 00:11:39,467 --> 00:11:43,227 Speaker 4: a little bit more adapted to development country. We can 155 00:11:43,267 --> 00:11:48,747 Speaker 4: see it in rugby seven. Have a full team of 156 00:11:48,827 --> 00:11:56,547 Speaker 4: a good player bringing together thirty players, that's difficult. Thirteen 157 00:11:56,747 --> 00:12:04,867 Speaker 4: fifteen Fiji compete. I saw Kenya start to have results Uruguay, 158 00:12:05,387 --> 00:12:12,547 Speaker 4: so that's more adapted and I think that's that's. 159 00:12:11,707 --> 00:12:13,307 Speaker 3: The way I think. IOC. 160 00:12:13,467 --> 00:12:16,707 Speaker 4: You want to try to find some discipline a little 161 00:12:16,707 --> 00:12:19,227 Speaker 4: bit more adapted to the new generation. 162 00:12:19,867 --> 00:12:22,987 Speaker 3: So we have to be there with three on three. 163 00:12:23,227 --> 00:12:27,187 Speaker 4: The only thing is it's not only the organization for 164 00:12:27,227 --> 00:12:32,667 Speaker 4: the Olympic, because we had to build all a championship behind, 165 00:12:32,787 --> 00:12:35,987 Speaker 4: so that means we have to make sure that we've 166 00:12:36,027 --> 00:12:38,707 Speaker 4: got the resources to do so. That means we have 167 00:12:38,747 --> 00:12:40,827 Speaker 4: to be a little bit prugh then, But I don't 168 00:12:40,827 --> 00:12:43,347 Speaker 4: know if it's going to be on twenty thirty, that's 169 00:12:43,387 --> 00:12:46,427 Speaker 4: not going to be in Milano, but thirty four we 170 00:12:46,467 --> 00:12:47,067 Speaker 4: should be there. 171 00:12:47,987 --> 00:12:50,907 Speaker 2: I guess you also have to be aware of geopolitics 172 00:12:50,987 --> 00:12:53,947 Speaker 2: in your role. Russia, of course, has been banned from 173 00:12:53,947 --> 00:12:58,347 Speaker 2: competition since the Ukraine invasion February twenty twenty two Belarus 174 00:12:58,347 --> 00:13:00,867 Speaker 2: for their support of the war. Would you like to 175 00:13:00,907 --> 00:13:05,427 Speaker 2: see Russia and Belarus rejoin the International Ice Hockey fault. 176 00:13:05,947 --> 00:13:12,067 Speaker 4: I used to say this this statement to resume a 177 00:13:12,107 --> 00:13:15,347 Speaker 4: little bit. We want bell Ewis and Russian back as 178 00:13:15,387 --> 00:13:19,187 Speaker 4: soon as possible. That's the first part of the sentence, 179 00:13:19,627 --> 00:13:23,147 Speaker 4: because it will meet the situation will be better and 180 00:13:23,187 --> 00:13:26,627 Speaker 4: the world will be over, so they will be back. 181 00:13:26,947 --> 00:13:31,267 Speaker 4: We want them back not too early because we're gonna 182 00:13:31,307 --> 00:13:36,147 Speaker 4: have some other problem. Now there is in lots of 183 00:13:36,187 --> 00:13:39,147 Speaker 4: country they cannot travel, they don't have a visa. There 184 00:13:39,187 --> 00:13:42,787 Speaker 4: is a question of security. So we've got it in mind. 185 00:13:43,267 --> 00:13:47,827 Speaker 4: We wanted to adapt to the situation year by year. 186 00:13:50,547 --> 00:13:54,787 Speaker 4: Usually in February we decide for the World Championship after 187 00:13:57,867 --> 00:14:05,027 Speaker 4: and every time we hope that the situation will be better. Now, 188 00:14:05,307 --> 00:14:09,027 Speaker 4: mister Trump was opposed to solve that war in twenty 189 00:14:09,027 --> 00:14:11,267 Speaker 4: four hours. It's going to take a little bit more. 190 00:14:11,707 --> 00:14:14,867 Speaker 4: But we were watching it with adding all the planet. 191 00:14:15,147 --> 00:14:19,587 Speaker 4: We But yes, we want them as soon as possible 192 00:14:19,627 --> 00:14:24,467 Speaker 4: because that's that's a big part of the family. But 193 00:14:25,227 --> 00:14:28,587 Speaker 4: I cannot solve the war. I'm just trying to watch 194 00:14:28,627 --> 00:14:30,227 Speaker 4: when it will be the best time to. 195 00:14:30,707 --> 00:14:32,787 Speaker 3: Bring them back. But they have to do a bit 196 00:14:32,827 --> 00:14:33,387 Speaker 3: of the job. 197 00:14:34,707 --> 00:14:39,267 Speaker 2: Look, what is your vision for ice hockey globally? What 198 00:14:39,667 --> 00:14:42,467 Speaker 2: is your ideal vision for the game? 199 00:14:43,707 --> 00:14:48,907 Speaker 4: For me, ice hockey is a modern sport. There is 200 00:14:48,947 --> 00:14:53,187 Speaker 4: a special gear that's fast. So that means that we 201 00:14:53,307 --> 00:14:58,667 Speaker 4: got success in some country that we were a little 202 00:14:58,667 --> 00:15:05,707 Speaker 4: bit surprised, like since the cycle of two Winter Olympic Games, 203 00:15:05,707 --> 00:15:13,827 Speaker 4: in Asia. There is a big jump in Asia, Chinese. 204 00:15:14,187 --> 00:15:18,507 Speaker 4: I think they taste what is was hoki. I was 205 00:15:18,587 --> 00:15:21,627 Speaker 4: worried that after the game there is a little bit 206 00:15:21,747 --> 00:15:25,587 Speaker 4: less interest. No, they build more than three hundred ice 207 00:15:25,707 --> 00:15:28,467 Speaker 4: ring the sixth year before and now they use it. 208 00:15:29,067 --> 00:15:33,947 Speaker 4: So they organize a symposium. They want to organize competition 209 00:15:34,267 --> 00:15:38,027 Speaker 4: and uh. And when you see the potential of hoke 210 00:15:38,227 --> 00:15:42,907 Speaker 4: player a male and female in China, uh and uh 211 00:15:43,427 --> 00:15:49,227 Speaker 4: so that means there and outside of Asia, uh, the 212 00:15:49,827 --> 00:15:56,107 Speaker 4: country of uh Emira. They will organize in Saudi Arabia 213 00:15:56,187 --> 00:16:02,267 Speaker 4: in twenty twenty nine Winter Sport Asian Winter Sport Olympic. 214 00:16:04,107 --> 00:16:09,187 Speaker 4: There is a Thailand now is is growing. They build 215 00:16:09,227 --> 00:16:16,347 Speaker 4: the ice rink, and Philippine and now that's uh, that's 216 00:16:16,427 --> 00:16:19,267 Speaker 4: not crazy to think that you can play hockey even 217 00:16:19,387 --> 00:16:23,827 Speaker 4: in the Northern Africa. Africa, so hockey can be everywhere. 218 00:16:23,947 --> 00:16:27,147 Speaker 4: And I used to say that maybe I'm not objective, 219 00:16:27,187 --> 00:16:29,667 Speaker 4: but when you start to play, when you taste that, 220 00:16:30,027 --> 00:16:32,627 Speaker 4: you cannot come back to Vanilla. 221 00:16:32,787 --> 00:16:36,307 Speaker 2: I love that your job, your job must take you 222 00:16:36,387 --> 00:16:38,547 Speaker 2: all around the world. Are you ever at home? Do 223 00:16:38,627 --> 00:16:40,507 Speaker 2: you ever see your wife? 224 00:16:40,787 --> 00:16:40,907 Speaker 4: Uh? 225 00:16:43,347 --> 00:16:47,107 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a good question. Yes, But Uh. 226 00:16:47,427 --> 00:16:49,987 Speaker 4: You know, first of all, I did in the cheata 227 00:16:50,227 --> 00:16:53,747 Speaker 4: of what I sell when we get married, because I'm 228 00:16:53,827 --> 00:16:54,547 Speaker 4: just getting better. 229 00:16:54,987 --> 00:17:01,147 Speaker 3: Huh. But yes, but but that's a part of my 230 00:17:01,267 --> 00:17:02,027 Speaker 3: job first. 231 00:17:02,267 --> 00:17:06,907 Speaker 4: But uh, you know, we sometimes we try together. 232 00:17:07,147 --> 00:17:07,347 Speaker 3: Yeah. 233 00:17:08,107 --> 00:17:12,267 Speaker 4: So, and the big events like the World Championships, she's there. 234 00:17:12,787 --> 00:17:17,227 Speaker 4: And what I'm trying to do is I'm not a 235 00:17:17,267 --> 00:17:21,787 Speaker 4: lot at home, but when I'm at home, I want 236 00:17:21,827 --> 00:17:28,027 Speaker 4: to really be there. And so that means and so 237 00:17:28,227 --> 00:17:32,747 Speaker 4: my mandate will finish. I don't know at the end 238 00:17:32,747 --> 00:17:38,027 Speaker 4: of September, so let's see. But I like what I'm doing, 239 00:17:38,627 --> 00:17:41,147 Speaker 4: and I think she's happy when I'm happy. 240 00:17:41,707 --> 00:17:46,347 Speaker 2: Wonderful. Last question, can you watch ice hockey as a 241 00:17:46,347 --> 00:17:50,667 Speaker 2: fan or are you too invested in the games as 242 00:17:50,707 --> 00:17:53,147 Speaker 2: it's president or are you able to still watch a 243 00:17:53,147 --> 00:17:56,267 Speaker 2: game of ice hockey and appreciate it for the sport 244 00:17:56,347 --> 00:17:56,787 Speaker 2: that it is. 245 00:17:57,147 --> 00:17:59,507 Speaker 3: No, I'm watching again for the sport. 246 00:18:00,027 --> 00:18:03,947 Speaker 4: Sometimes I've got in mind you're a president, so that 247 00:18:04,067 --> 00:18:09,427 Speaker 4: means you have to be neutral. But no, I'm watching 248 00:18:09,427 --> 00:18:15,067 Speaker 4: the game doesn't matter who won, even when Frands is playing, 249 00:18:15,867 --> 00:18:19,827 Speaker 4: So that means that I watched the game for the 250 00:18:20,547 --> 00:18:28,427 Speaker 4: I mean, the the spectacular U how is our ice 251 00:18:28,427 --> 00:18:34,867 Speaker 4: hockey can be sometimes so exciting. No uh, as the 252 00:18:34,947 --> 00:18:38,307 Speaker 4: President sometimes said, Oh I'm gonna have something to solve 253 00:18:40,027 --> 00:18:43,267 Speaker 4: for discipline things or something like that. So that's a 254 00:18:43,347 --> 00:18:47,587 Speaker 4: reality to come back. But in my mind, I'm still 255 00:18:47,587 --> 00:18:54,747 Speaker 4: a hockey player. I've got a new responsibility, but I'm 256 00:18:54,787 --> 00:19:03,747 Speaker 4: still the the fans, but not on the bad side of. 257 00:19:02,267 --> 00:19:07,307 Speaker 3: Of what is a fan? Uh, hockey lover, A. 258 00:19:07,387 --> 00:19:10,187 Speaker 2: Hockey lover who sounds like the ideal man to be 259 00:19:10,507 --> 00:19:12,227 Speaker 2: heading up the sport. Luke, It's been great to have 260 00:19:12,267 --> 00:19:14,307 Speaker 2: you in studio, Enjoy the rest of you stay here 261 00:19:14,307 --> 00:19:16,027 Speaker 2: in New Zealand and hope to catch up again soon. 262 00:19:16,467 --> 00:19:17,187 Speaker 3: That's a pleasure. 263 00:19:17,587 --> 00:19:20,547 Speaker 2: No, thank you, Luke. Luke Tardiff the President of the 264 00:19:20,587 --> 00:19:25,067 Speaker 2: International Ice Hockey Federation here in New Zealand for the 265 00:19:25,627 --> 00:19:28,227 Speaker 2: couple of tournaments which happening. 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