1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,040 Speaker 1: Barry Sooper, Senior Political Correspondence with US. 2 00:00:02,040 --> 00:00:04,440 Speaker 2: Now, Hi Barry, good afternoon here the welcome back. 3 00:00:05,519 --> 00:00:08,239 Speaker 1: Welcome back, Barry, Happy new year to you. How was 4 00:00:08,280 --> 00:00:08,920 Speaker 1: your holiday? 5 00:00:11,080 --> 00:00:11,680 Speaker 3: It was great? 6 00:00:11,800 --> 00:00:14,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm so pleased to hear that you do look refreshed. 7 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:17,200 Speaker 2: Thank you. 8 00:00:17,320 --> 00:00:22,360 Speaker 1: Okay, So go on then Parliament. Yeah, sitting for the 9 00:00:22,360 --> 00:00:22,880 Speaker 1: first time. 10 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:27,440 Speaker 2: Well, yes, at the opening cells for the selection year. 11 00:00:27,920 --> 00:00:30,960 Speaker 2: We're flung around the debating chamber this afternoon, kicked off 12 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:34,360 Speaker 2: of course by the Prime Minister Chris Luxon, followed by 13 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:38,720 Speaker 2: the other Chris that wants his job, Chris Hipkins from Labor. 14 00:00:38,760 --> 00:00:42,000 Speaker 2: Here is what you've got to look forward to this 15 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:43,879 Speaker 2: election year, and and to the. 16 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:48,640 Speaker 4: Era of wasteful spending supporting lower inflation and lower interest rates, 17 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:52,160 Speaker 4: much more visible policing, and a tougher stance on Laura 18 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:56,560 Speaker 4: and order, driving down violent crime, retail crime, ram raids 19 00:00:56,600 --> 00:01:00,200 Speaker 4: and youth offending. Stronger achievement in our classrooms with just 20 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:02,760 Speaker 4: starting school or needing an opportunity to catch up. And now, 21 00:01:02,760 --> 00:01:04,840 Speaker 4: missus Speaker, as I say, we are building the future. 22 00:01:04,840 --> 00:01:07,120 Speaker 4: We are growing the economy to create more jobs and 23 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:11,280 Speaker 4: more opportunities for Kiwis, with rising exports, investment and productivity. 24 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 4: We are spending tax payers money carefully so that we 25 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:17,520 Speaker 4: don't burn our grandchildren with more debt. 26 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:18,800 Speaker 5: Lest the speaker. 27 00:01:18,840 --> 00:01:21,479 Speaker 6: For a moment there, I thought I had stepped out 28 00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 6: of the house and stepped into the local laundromat. Such 29 00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:28,640 Speaker 6: was the level of spin and doozy laundry being stuffed 30 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:29,520 Speaker 6: into the corner. 31 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 5: Because, mister Speaker, when New Zealanders were looking for vision, 32 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:37,120 Speaker 5: when they were looking for hope, when they were looking 33 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:40,760 Speaker 5: for something to give them an idea, that the government 34 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:44,440 Speaker 5: knew anything about what it was doing, they would have 35 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:47,160 Speaker 5: seen nothing from that contribution. 36 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:49,720 Speaker 1: So do you have it here that I'm exciting? 37 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:51,360 Speaker 2: That's what you've got to look forward to. 38 00:01:51,520 --> 00:01:53,320 Speaker 1: And I do. And there was a motion on the 39 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:54,680 Speaker 1: weather events. 40 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:57,120 Speaker 2: Yes there was. That's how Parliament started this afternoon on 41 00:01:57,160 --> 00:02:01,000 Speaker 2: the very tragic weather events over the couple of weeks. 42 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:04,640 Speaker 2: The Maldi Parties co leader, though Rawery Way to Tea, 43 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:10,359 Speaker 2: couldn't help himself putting a political spin on the terrible 44 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:12,520 Speaker 2: weather over the past couple of weeks. 45 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:15,960 Speaker 3: And every crisis, it is Mildi, haapoo Ewe and Malay 46 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:20,400 Speaker 3: who respond first. When COVID hit this country. It was 47 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:24,160 Speaker 3: a similar issue for our small communities who were the 48 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:27,639 Speaker 3: last to be seen, the last to receive any resource. 49 00:02:27,919 --> 00:02:30,440 Speaker 3: And it is the same in these weather events. We 50 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:32,320 Speaker 3: are the first to get hit, we are the first 51 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:35,480 Speaker 3: to respond, and we are the last to receive any support. 52 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:39,640 Speaker 2: Oh woe is them? I mean, you can't get away 53 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:41,320 Speaker 2: from it, can he? You know? 54 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 1: Okay, do you need to talk Do you need to 55 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:45,840 Speaker 1: talk about Donald Trump? 56 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:46,200 Speaker 5: Harry? 57 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:49,240 Speaker 1: Because let's be honest, you've had five weeks of just 58 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:52,720 Speaker 1: gunnu sacking Donald Trump and it has been a lot of gunnysacks, 59 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:54,880 Speaker 1: a lot of us. 60 00:02:54,919 --> 00:02:57,320 Speaker 2: Too much to talk about really this afternoon here. 61 00:02:57,440 --> 00:02:59,919 Speaker 1: But where would you like to start to start? 62 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:03,520 Speaker 2: On the peace train? Actually, because the man who changed 63 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:07,959 Speaker 2: his Defense Department to the Department of War has now 64 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:14,519 Speaker 2: established stories establishing the police, the Peace Board, and a 65 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:19,080 Speaker 2: few leaders have signed up to it, the likes of 66 00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:21,440 Speaker 2: Vladimir Putin, for example. 67 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 1: What is your problem with Vladimir Putin being on the 68 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:24,200 Speaker 1: Peace Board? 69 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:24,600 Speaker 3: RCK? 70 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:29,720 Speaker 2: What I think is they should adopt Cat Stevens peace 71 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 2: Train as their theme song. I mean, that would be 72 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:37,760 Speaker 2: a good one for them. Imagine old Donald swiveling his 73 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:42,040 Speaker 2: shoulders and pumping his fists to the peace train, he said, 74 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:47,400 Speaker 2: and remember the verse that Now I've been crying lately, 75 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:50,240 Speaker 2: thinking about the world as it is. Why must we 76 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:53,680 Speaker 2: go on hating? Why can't we live in bliss? 77 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:53,880 Speaker 5: Well? 78 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:57,040 Speaker 2: Good point, Donald. I think he should reflect on that 79 00:03:57,440 --> 00:04:01,080 Speaker 2: as the peace train gets underway. But you know, I 80 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 2: don't how to hold out a great deal of hope 81 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:03,320 Speaker 2: for that. 82 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:07,040 Speaker 1: Okay, So is that it he done? Well? 83 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:09,200 Speaker 2: I could say a lot more. 84 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:12,320 Speaker 1: Talk to me. Listen, have you seen the arn Z 85 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:13,960 Speaker 1: red research pole? You want me to run you through 86 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:16,320 Speaker 1: the numbers? Yeah, okay, this is out this morning. Whinnie 87 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:18,320 Speaker 1: Pee's the big winner on this Labour's in the lead 88 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:21,360 Speaker 1: on thirty five Nationals on thirty two. New Zealand First 89 00:04:21,400 --> 00:04:23,840 Speaker 1: is nine point eight just shy of ten, so the 90 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:26,600 Speaker 1: third biggest party, Green's nine point six, Act seven point 91 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:30,240 Speaker 1: six Marty Party three preferred Prime Minister Hepkins on twenty one, 92 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:32,799 Speaker 1: Luxanon nineteen, Winnie p on thirteen. 93 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:37,120 Speaker 2: Winnie Pee will be smiling all the way to the 94 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:37,839 Speaker 2: ballot box. 95 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:40,800 Speaker 1: If that pole is not a surprise. If you've been 96 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:43,200 Speaker 1: following the trajectory of the New Zealand First Party right, 97 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:44,919 Speaker 1: they have been building for the last year or so. 98 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:46,720 Speaker 1: But what is it about New Zealand? First, the people 99 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:47,560 Speaker 1: are loving so much better. 100 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:51,039 Speaker 2: I think what they're liking is that looking at for 101 00:04:51,080 --> 00:04:54,800 Speaker 2: a start, Winston Peters, and he has been I don't 102 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:57,920 Speaker 2: think anybody would argue that he has been a very 103 00:04:57,920 --> 00:05:01,280 Speaker 2: good foreignerist of New Zealand, following on from n Nayamhuta 104 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:06,440 Speaker 2: and what she presented on the international stage. So I 105 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:09,479 Speaker 2: think that's number one. I think you know people have come. 106 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:14,840 Speaker 1: People don't vote for foreign affairs though it gives. 107 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:15,560 Speaker 2: Me no, no, no, they don't. But it's the party, 108 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:19,039 Speaker 2: the reflection of the party led by Winston Peters. I 109 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:20,839 Speaker 2: know a lot of people see him as a chameleon 110 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:25,880 Speaker 2: and on a political to a political extent, maybe he 111 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:30,840 Speaker 2: is a bit, but there's some solid stuff behind, not 112 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:35,080 Speaker 2: only Winston Peters, but you've got Shane Joe and the mining. 113 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:37,159 Speaker 2: The mining stuff, I think a lot of people would 114 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 2: agree with that. 115 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:39,600 Speaker 1: Is it fair to say what's going on here is 116 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:42,120 Speaker 1: you've got a lot of people who will have voted 117 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 1: right but be reasonably unhappy with the National Party being timid, 118 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:49,880 Speaker 1: the Act Party behaving like a bunch of brats, that 119 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:53,840 Speaker 1: leaves Winston Peters who still is he's in opposition while 120 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:56,640 Speaker 1: in government right, So, but has he delivered anything? Well, 121 00:05:56,680 --> 00:05:58,920 Speaker 1: this thing he's been there two years, what's he done? 122 00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:02,159 Speaker 2: Why he's been so shrewd as the latest is the 123 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:06,840 Speaker 2: World Health Organization, he's been very shrewd and taking the 124 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:13,720 Speaker 2: second half of the election cycle off as Deputy Prime Minister, 125 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:16,640 Speaker 2: so it allows them to go out and say stuff 126 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:20,080 Speaker 2: that he probably normally wouldn't say if he's sitting alongside 127 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:22,760 Speaker 2: Chris Luxon in the House every day. So you know, 128 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:26,159 Speaker 2: he's a shrewd operator. And I can tell you what 129 00:06:26,360 --> 00:06:29,400 Speaker 2: once he starts campaigning, he really does turn it on. 130 00:06:29,480 --> 00:06:31,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, Barry, thank you very much, appreciate it. Nice to 131 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:33,720 Speaker 1: have you back. Barry Soper, Senior political correspondent. 132 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:37,680 Speaker 3: For more from Hither Duplessy Allen Drive, listen live to 133 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:40,799 Speaker 3: news Talks it'd be from four pm weekdays, or follow 134 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:42,600 Speaker 3: the podcast on iHeartRadio.