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Speaker 1: Barry Sore, senior political correspondens with US. Now, hey Barry,

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Speaker 1: good afternoon. Hi, though prime Minister's in Salmar, and is

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Speaker 1: it straight to the wreckage?

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Speaker 2: Well, you know, the thing is, I found the Prime

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Speaker 2: minister's statement that he didn't want the Chogham to be

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Speaker 2: dominated by the sunken naval vessel off the coast of Sabor.

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Speaker 2: So what does he do. As soon as he touches down,

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Speaker 2: he goes straight to the headquarters that has been set

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Speaker 2: up for the aftermath of the sunken vessel, and that's

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Speaker 2: where he did his first stand up was at that headquarters.

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Speaker 2: So at least the first few hours of his visit

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Speaker 2: are certainly being dominated by the vessel. This is what

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Speaker 2: he had to say.

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Speaker 3: Now, our focus is jointly, we're working towards mitigating any

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Speaker 3: environmental impact. As you know, we're trying to mitigate and

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Speaker 3: dissipate any minor leaks that are coming out through venting pipes.

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Speaker 3: The good news as those primary fuel tanks are intact,

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Speaker 3: and we'll talk about how he removed that very very shortly.

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Speaker 3: But then obviously focus has been making sure there's no debris.

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Speaker 3: There's been clearly no loss of marine life. There's been

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Speaker 3: no pollution on shore. We've removed the containers, the three

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Speaker 3: containers that we're actually on the reef. So now we

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Speaker 3: move to a different phase and that phase is working

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Speaker 3: with our insurers and our selvers to make sure that

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Speaker 3: we get a safe uplift of the fuel out of

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Speaker 3: the ship, and we do that as quickly as we can.

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Speaker 2: Still is not a good look as it for New Zealand.

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Speaker 2: I mean, here we are with Commonwealth leaders and we've

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Speaker 2: got the sunk naval vessel off the coast.

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Speaker 1: Well, to be fair though pretty accurate reflection of what's

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Speaker 1: going on in the country, and we had a pylon

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Speaker 1: come down. We're running the ferries into the ground the

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Speaker 1: whole time. It's only fair that we sink a boat

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Speaker 1: over there as well.

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Speaker 2: But it's not causing pollution. It's just laying at the

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Speaker 2: bottom of the op.

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Speaker 1: It might be causing a little bit, and.

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Speaker 2: It's costing the taxpayer of course, an absolute arm and

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Speaker 2: a leg. But anyway, he'll move on from that and

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Speaker 2: he'll meet the UK Prime and as the first time

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Speaker 2: he's met him, so Kia Starmer later today and he'll

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Speaker 2: also meet King Charles. He's never met him before either,

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Speaker 2: so it'll be a big day for him. I'm not

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Speaker 2: sure there he's meeting King Charles today, but he'll no

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Speaker 2: doubt rubbed shoulders with him, because that's what they always

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Speaker 2: do it these sorts of gatherings.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so big deal's been made of the cost of

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Speaker 1: the public service redundancies, right, because it's about eighty million

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Speaker 1: bucks in counting.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, it's essentially the public service spokesperson for the

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Speaker 2: Labor Party that's done the sums, and that's none other

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Speaker 2: than aicheveril. She asked every ministry for the total sum

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Speaker 2: of redundancy payments made to staff and they mount to

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Speaker 2: just over eighty million dollars so far. But the point

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Speaker 2: that Nikola willis made, and I think it was a

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Speaker 2: fair point, that is small beer when you consider the

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Speaker 2: one point five billion dollars which she claims will be

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Speaker 2: saved as a result of the public service being cut

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Speaker 2: or peered back to where it was maybe a couple

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Speaker 2: of years ago.

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Speaker 1: These arguments are always done because anybody who's ever been

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Speaker 1: made redundant or made anybody redundant, knows there's an upfront

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Speaker 1: cost and then you save a lot of money.

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Speaker 2: Yes, exactly, Yeah, well, you know the Minister of Social Development,

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Speaker 2: they are the highest redundancy payments. They're almost fifteen million

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Speaker 2: dollars aroung A Tamriiki and maybe that's the problem that

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Speaker 2: we're facing at that particular organization. They paid out eight

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Speaker 2: and a half million dollars and stats they come in

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Speaker 2: at third and just on eight million dollars. So a

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Speaker 2: lot of money has been handed out to these public servants.

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Speaker 2: You'd wonder why the housing market isn't better and willing

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Speaker 2: to know at the moment.

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Speaker 1: Hey, what has Mark Mitchell, the Police Minister, had to

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Speaker 1: say about what the Marori Party said yesterday about defending

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Speaker 1: the rights of the gangs.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I just find the statement by Raillery white to Tea,

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Speaker 2: the co leader of the Maori Party, absolutely absurd. He's

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Speaker 2: labeled at police conswered terrorism in a polto key and

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Speaker 2: Mark Mitchell. He's come out today and he said that

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Speaker 2: even though it's been claimed by whitey Tea that the

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Speaker 2: homes were violated on a hunch, he said they obviously

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Speaker 2: had good intelligence to go in and mount these raids.

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Speaker 2: And he said because there were twenty eight arrests, eight

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Speaker 2: hundred thousand dollars worth of assets seized and firearms and drugs,

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Speaker 2: So it wasn't just on a whim or on a

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Speaker 2: hunch that Whitey Tea would have us believe. And what

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Speaker 2: it does is it costs a cloud over the Maldi

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Speaker 2: Party itself. I mean, what are they in politics for?

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Speaker 2: Are they there to represent gangs in this country? I

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Speaker 2: mean these people pedal misery. I don't think the people

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Speaker 2: of a pot.

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Speaker 1: Right that the Maori Party has come up with a

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Speaker 1: wacky idea though, Barry, thank you very much, because there's

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Speaker 1: been a run of them lately. Barry Soaper, Senior political Correspondent.

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