1 00:00:06,667 --> 00:00:10,427 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Weekend Sport podcast with Jason Vine 2 00:00:10,707 --> 00:00:11,907 Speaker 1: from News Talks EDB. 3 00:00:12,627 --> 00:00:14,867 Speaker 2: From News TALKSB Weekend Sport coming to your Life from 4 00:00:14,867 --> 00:00:18,827 Speaker 2: Sale gp Auckland Australia Victorious. What a pleasure to welcome 5 00:00:18,907 --> 00:00:22,587 Speaker 2: in an absolute veteran of all types of sailing and 6 00:00:22,707 --> 00:00:25,987 Speaker 2: Victorious out there on the fifty today with Australia Glenn Ashby. 7 00:00:26,027 --> 00:00:27,987 Speaker 2: Great to see you mate, great, great to be here. 8 00:00:28,027 --> 00:00:28,547 Speaker 3: Thanks. 9 00:00:28,587 --> 00:00:32,947 Speaker 2: How was today? How and give us the general overview 10 00:00:32,987 --> 00:00:35,867 Speaker 2: of how it played out today and effect across the weekend. 11 00:00:36,347 --> 00:00:39,867 Speaker 3: Yeah, look, today was pretty spicy, to be honest. It 12 00:00:39,947 --> 00:00:42,907 Speaker 3: was fresh to frightening at times. We are you know 13 00:00:42,947 --> 00:00:47,387 Speaker 3: that last final race we were right in the very 14 00:00:47,387 --> 00:00:49,787 Speaker 3: beginning of a square coming through, you know, up to 15 00:00:49,827 --> 00:00:52,027 Speaker 3: sort of thirty knots of breeze or even more at times. 16 00:00:52,027 --> 00:00:55,667 Speaker 3: And yeah, it was definitely survival of the of the 17 00:00:55,707 --> 00:00:58,787 Speaker 3: fittest there at times, but a huge amount of fun, 18 00:00:58,867 --> 00:01:01,307 Speaker 3: but definitely right on the edge of control. And you 19 00:01:01,347 --> 00:01:03,547 Speaker 3: know you're using all your skills and all the gearbox 20 00:01:03,547 --> 00:01:04,547 Speaker 3: of the boat, that's for sure. 21 00:01:04,827 --> 00:01:07,547 Speaker 2: So split fleet today for a couple of fleet racers 22 00:01:07,587 --> 00:01:09,867 Speaker 2: and then of course the three boat final, What was 23 00:01:09,867 --> 00:01:12,787 Speaker 2: it like in a in a smaller fleet and you 24 00:01:12,827 --> 00:01:14,947 Speaker 2: know what was five or six in the fleet for 25 00:01:14,987 --> 00:01:16,627 Speaker 2: fleet racing, it could be to thirteen. 26 00:01:16,867 --> 00:01:19,427 Speaker 3: Yeah, it look definitely definitely a lot sort of easier 27 00:01:20,067 --> 00:01:22,427 Speaker 3: positioning wise, a lot less sort of risk in those 28 00:01:22,667 --> 00:01:26,187 Speaker 3: really tight quarter situations. You've still got plenty going on, 29 00:01:26,267 --> 00:01:29,787 Speaker 3: like there's still boats whipping everywhere and split second decisions. 30 00:01:29,827 --> 00:01:32,027 Speaker 3: But to put the helm ont, the goggles back on 31 00:01:32,067 --> 00:01:34,147 Speaker 3: and sort of get that racing vibe going again. It's 32 00:01:34,187 --> 00:01:35,747 Speaker 3: been a long time for me, about sort of five 33 00:01:35,827 --> 00:01:37,307 Speaker 3: years since I really raced here, you know, for the 34 00:01:37,347 --> 00:01:39,107 Speaker 3: America's Cup in twenty one, and to get back out 35 00:01:39,147 --> 00:01:41,707 Speaker 3: there on the White Matter again and you know, be 36 00:01:41,787 --> 00:01:43,987 Speaker 3: sort of seeing everyone and catching up with people again, 37 00:01:44,027 --> 00:01:46,667 Speaker 3: it's been it's been quite surreal, to be honest. It's 38 00:01:46,907 --> 00:01:51,787 Speaker 3: first time I've sailed really for Australia since two thousand 39 00:01:51,827 --> 00:01:54,587 Speaker 3: and eight for the Beijing Olympics. So I've been with 40 00:01:54,867 --> 00:01:57,427 Speaker 3: em samw Zealand really since twenty ten and then sort 41 00:01:57,427 --> 00:02:00,227 Speaker 3: of stepped away in twenty twenty one and still obviously 42 00:02:00,347 --> 00:02:03,107 Speaker 3: very connected to the team. But to sail with your 43 00:02:03,147 --> 00:02:05,387 Speaker 3: green and Gold undies on, it's you know, it's been special. 44 00:02:05,467 --> 00:02:06,787 Speaker 3: Have the family here as well, it's been great. 45 00:02:06,827 --> 00:02:09,147 Speaker 2: I bet it has. This of course happened after after 46 00:02:09,187 --> 00:02:11,507 Speaker 2: Ian Jensen heard his knee. You came in in Perth. 47 00:02:11,867 --> 00:02:14,067 Speaker 2: What was the funk? Did Tom Slingsby give you a call? 48 00:02:14,067 --> 00:02:14,947 Speaker 2: How did it all happen? 49 00:02:15,667 --> 00:02:19,187 Speaker 3: Yeah, looked Tom rang about ten to ten, I think 50 00:02:19,187 --> 00:02:21,907 Speaker 3: on Thursday night, and you know, I was literally ten 51 00:02:21,947 --> 00:02:24,027 Speaker 3: minutes from turning my phone off and going to sleep. 52 00:02:24,107 --> 00:02:27,587 Speaker 3: I was in majamas and Tom rang and said, look, Ian, 53 00:02:27,627 --> 00:02:29,707 Speaker 3: it's just you know, there are four hours behind. So 54 00:02:29,707 --> 00:02:31,787 Speaker 3: he's like, look, Ian's just really badly hurt his need. 55 00:02:31,787 --> 00:02:32,787 Speaker 3: Do you think you'd be able to jump on a 56 00:02:32,787 --> 00:02:34,467 Speaker 3: plane in the morning and you know, come over and 57 00:02:34,547 --> 00:02:36,347 Speaker 3: have a sail? I said, Tommy, it's been it's been 58 00:02:36,387 --> 00:02:38,467 Speaker 3: a few years since I've had a sailing, Like I'm 59 00:02:38,467 --> 00:02:40,667 Speaker 3: a bit out of practice and pretty unfit. And he goes, no, No, 60 00:02:40,707 --> 00:02:41,987 Speaker 3: if you can jump on a plane, we'd take a 61 00:02:42,027 --> 00:02:44,787 Speaker 3: year in a heartbeat. So forty five minutes later we'd 62 00:02:44,867 --> 00:02:46,587 Speaker 3: organized some flights, and three and a half hours later 63 00:02:46,627 --> 00:02:49,307 Speaker 3: I left from our house at three point fifteen in 64 00:02:49,347 --> 00:02:52,027 Speaker 3: the morning to catch a six am flight in Melbourne, 65 00:02:52,067 --> 00:02:54,427 Speaker 3: and yeah, about six hours later I was actually shooting 66 00:02:54,427 --> 00:02:56,787 Speaker 3: on sailing in Perth at ten thirty am Perth time. 67 00:02:56,907 --> 00:02:59,867 Speaker 3: So we survived the weekend over there and managed to 68 00:03:00,027 --> 00:03:02,707 Speaker 3: you know sort of you know, get a second position there, 69 00:03:02,747 --> 00:03:05,947 Speaker 3: which was really nice for the team and you know, 70 00:03:06,467 --> 00:03:10,467 Speaker 3: come here and you know, I had zero expectations of 71 00:03:10,587 --> 00:03:12,587 Speaker 3: sitting here talking to you guys having won the event, 72 00:03:12,987 --> 00:03:15,507 Speaker 3: you know, leading into this. But for the team to 73 00:03:15,947 --> 00:03:17,867 Speaker 3: have a first and a second and for me not 74 00:03:17,987 --> 00:03:20,187 Speaker 3: to crash the boat or tipped us over it, it's 75 00:03:20,227 --> 00:03:20,867 Speaker 3: pretty nice. 76 00:03:21,627 --> 00:03:23,787 Speaker 2: You take there. That's a victory. Absolutely. I think you're 77 00:03:23,787 --> 00:03:25,947 Speaker 2: being a bit humble. What are the fifties like? 78 00:03:26,827 --> 00:03:28,867 Speaker 3: I look there, they are incredible boats, and you know 79 00:03:28,947 --> 00:03:31,347 Speaker 3: from from the I guess the AC fifties that we 80 00:03:31,427 --> 00:03:34,427 Speaker 3: sailed leading up to Bermuda and then obviously ultimately you know, 81 00:03:34,427 --> 00:03:37,307 Speaker 3: winning the America's Cup on the fifties four Emerates Teamy 82 00:03:37,387 --> 00:03:40,107 Speaker 3: Zee was a you know, a dream come true from me, 83 00:03:40,187 --> 00:03:41,827 Speaker 3: you know, from where we were in Issuy with that. 84 00:03:42,147 --> 00:03:44,507 Speaker 3: For the boats to then turn into the fifties, you know, 85 00:03:44,627 --> 00:03:47,547 Speaker 3: we've got t foils, we've got different systems, different wings, 86 00:03:47,907 --> 00:03:51,787 Speaker 3: you can change the configuration. The boats are absolutely incredible, 87 00:03:51,907 --> 00:03:58,547 Speaker 3: amazingly powerful, amazingly efficient, you know, pure athleticism for the 88 00:03:58,587 --> 00:04:01,507 Speaker 3: crew on board, and I really think it showcases the 89 00:04:01,547 --> 00:04:04,347 Speaker 3: sport super super well. It's got all the attributes that 90 00:04:04,387 --> 00:04:07,707 Speaker 3: you need for, you know, really showcasing you know, what 91 00:04:07,707 --> 00:04:10,627 Speaker 3: the sport can be. And I think pushing technology, pushing boundaries, 92 00:04:10,667 --> 00:04:15,147 Speaker 3: pushing the limits of physics is very very special. So 93 00:04:15,187 --> 00:04:18,387 Speaker 3: for me personally to have the opportunity to take the 94 00:04:18,467 --> 00:04:20,067 Speaker 3: dusty old boots off the wall and jump back on 95 00:04:20,067 --> 00:04:21,067 Speaker 3: against being very special. 96 00:04:21,147 --> 00:04:23,707 Speaker 2: So you hadn't sailed for five years since the America's 97 00:04:23,747 --> 00:04:25,707 Speaker 2: Cup at twenty one, you must have been out on 98 00:04:25,747 --> 00:04:28,107 Speaker 2: the water, but nothing competitive in the time, since. 99 00:04:28,227 --> 00:04:30,747 Speaker 3: Nothing really I did a couple of events for the 100 00:04:30,787 --> 00:04:34,667 Speaker 3: Swiss Swiss team with Sebastian Snyder about three three and 101 00:04:34,667 --> 00:04:36,427 Speaker 3: a half years ago just sort of filled in. Was 102 00:04:36,427 --> 00:04:38,267 Speaker 3: just sort of trying to upskill from new wing trim 103 00:04:38,267 --> 00:04:40,387 Speaker 3: as coming through. And you know, I feel like I've 104 00:04:40,427 --> 00:04:42,027 Speaker 3: had a pretty good run over the years and I'm 105 00:04:42,107 --> 00:04:43,627 Speaker 3: very happy to sort of hand the reins over to 106 00:04:44,027 --> 00:04:45,787 Speaker 3: the new guys and girls that are coming through and 107 00:04:46,107 --> 00:04:48,987 Speaker 3: super happy to help. And you know, I've known Ian 108 00:04:49,067 --> 00:04:52,867 Speaker 3: Jensen for a long time. Nathan Outridge as well, who's 109 00:04:52,907 --> 00:04:56,067 Speaker 3: now with Emirates Team New Zealand. Them are best mates. 110 00:04:56,107 --> 00:04:57,987 Speaker 3: And when Tom rang, who's also you know, one of 111 00:04:58,027 --> 00:04:59,707 Speaker 3: my best mates as well, growing up together. Something in 112 00:04:59,747 --> 00:05:02,027 Speaker 3: the laser while I was doing the Tornado Olympic campaign, 113 00:05:02,227 --> 00:05:04,267 Speaker 3: when he rang and said, look, Goops has hurt himself, 114 00:05:04,307 --> 00:05:05,987 Speaker 3: you know, could could you feel in? I didn't have 115 00:05:05,987 --> 00:05:07,667 Speaker 3: to think it it too long, you know, and I thought, well, 116 00:05:07,947 --> 00:05:09,867 Speaker 3: I just hope I don't let the team down, you know. 117 00:05:09,907 --> 00:05:14,387 Speaker 3: And they've looked after me brilliantly, you know, Jason Waterhouse, 118 00:05:14,387 --> 00:05:17,027 Speaker 3: the flight controller, the other guys on the boat, and 119 00:05:17,067 --> 00:05:21,227 Speaker 3: Tash Bryant, you know, her helming ability to look after 120 00:05:21,267 --> 00:05:23,267 Speaker 3: me while we're exiting vibes while I'm trying to get 121 00:05:23,267 --> 00:05:28,147 Speaker 3: myself organized and do my job well. She is an absolute, 122 00:05:28,307 --> 00:05:31,427 Speaker 3: absolute star and she'll be a big force in the future. 123 00:05:31,427 --> 00:05:33,947 Speaker 3: But I feel super honored to be able to sail 124 00:05:33,987 --> 00:05:36,547 Speaker 3: with a fantastic team. And it's the vibe off the 125 00:05:36,587 --> 00:05:39,267 Speaker 3: water that's honestly very very special. And I think culturally 126 00:05:39,867 --> 00:05:42,387 Speaker 3: New Zealand and Australia, you know, we've all grown up 127 00:05:42,427 --> 00:05:45,267 Speaker 3: super similarly, and I think, you know, we're all we're 128 00:05:45,267 --> 00:05:47,307 Speaker 3: all pretty similar, and I think that an Zac spirit is. 129 00:05:47,787 --> 00:05:49,787 Speaker 3: It was so nice to see this weekend and the support, 130 00:05:50,267 --> 00:05:52,347 Speaker 3: you know of the Kiwi fans. You know, I feel 131 00:05:52,347 --> 00:05:53,987 Speaker 3: like I've had an All Blacks jersey on for quite 132 00:05:53,987 --> 00:05:55,947 Speaker 3: a while and it almost feels like family. So it's 133 00:05:56,187 --> 00:05:57,027 Speaker 3: been a lovely weekend. 134 00:05:57,067 --> 00:06:00,827 Speaker 2: Wonderful stuff is It's like riding a bike. Is it like, 135 00:06:00,907 --> 00:06:02,307 Speaker 2: you know, sailing a boat. Did you feel that the 136 00:06:02,387 --> 00:06:04,547 Speaker 2: muscle memory come back straight away for you? 137 00:06:05,547 --> 00:06:07,787 Speaker 3: Yeah? Look, the the ring puck is definitely still there 138 00:06:07,787 --> 00:06:10,387 Speaker 3: when it's windy, that's for sure. But yeah, look at 139 00:06:10,387 --> 00:06:12,347 Speaker 3: this like riding a bike, you jump on it. It's 140 00:06:12,347 --> 00:06:14,587 Speaker 3: a bit like jumping probably on a you know, a 141 00:06:14,587 --> 00:06:17,267 Speaker 3: two hundred and fifty horse power super bike and popping 142 00:06:17,267 --> 00:06:19,307 Speaker 3: a wheelie after you haven't really done one for a while. 143 00:06:19,307 --> 00:06:20,907 Speaker 3: It's sort of like you remember how to do it, 144 00:06:20,947 --> 00:06:22,427 Speaker 3: but you've got a lot of power to deal with 145 00:06:22,547 --> 00:06:24,227 Speaker 3: and you know you've got to you got to think 146 00:06:24,227 --> 00:06:27,307 Speaker 3: about it. So look, it's been absolutely wonderful to have 147 00:06:27,387 --> 00:06:30,707 Speaker 3: a sail again. It has sort of you know, I 148 00:06:30,707 --> 00:06:32,147 Speaker 3: guess scratched a bit of an itch you sort of 149 00:06:32,187 --> 00:06:34,467 Speaker 3: wonder can you still do it? Certainly the body is 150 00:06:34,467 --> 00:06:36,267 Speaker 3: probably going to feel a bit sort Ofmorrow, I think 151 00:06:36,467 --> 00:06:38,547 Speaker 3: it might be an eyeberprof and dinner and a desertive 152 00:06:38,587 --> 00:06:40,907 Speaker 3: patodal I think tonight for me. But look, it's been 153 00:06:40,947 --> 00:06:42,707 Speaker 3: it's been great and to get the boat back in 154 00:06:42,747 --> 00:06:47,107 Speaker 3: one piece. Obviously yesterday, you know, a very very tricky day, 155 00:06:47,267 --> 00:06:49,267 Speaker 3: you know, for the fleet, and our thoughts go out 156 00:06:49,307 --> 00:06:51,827 Speaker 3: for Louis Sinclair and you know the Kiwi team and 157 00:06:52,307 --> 00:06:56,347 Speaker 3: also the French as well, Lee McMillan and Monin you know, 158 00:06:56,427 --> 00:06:58,947 Speaker 3: she she she basically went through the steering wheel and 159 00:06:59,187 --> 00:07:01,827 Speaker 3: you know, three people in hospital yesterday, So we can't 160 00:07:01,867 --> 00:07:05,587 Speaker 3: forget that what we're doing is very very high end. 161 00:07:05,667 --> 00:07:09,187 Speaker 3: It's dangerous and you're on the limits and sometimes things 162 00:07:09,747 --> 00:07:12,547 Speaker 3: don't go as planned. So our thoughts are with them. 163 00:07:12,587 --> 00:07:15,107 Speaker 3: And fortunately today we had a clean day and some 164 00:07:15,147 --> 00:07:17,867 Speaker 3: great racings, so got to showcase what the sport can do. 165 00:07:17,867 --> 00:07:20,267 Speaker 2: Do you believe the balance can be struck between you know, 166 00:07:20,347 --> 00:07:23,507 Speaker 2: going right to the edge to make it as spectacular 167 00:07:23,547 --> 00:07:26,107 Speaker 2: as possible for the sailors and for the fans and 168 00:07:26,307 --> 00:07:29,507 Speaker 2: ensuring as much as you can the safety of the participants. 169 00:07:29,827 --> 00:07:32,507 Speaker 3: Look, it's always a very very delicate balance that whole thing. 170 00:07:32,547 --> 00:07:34,667 Speaker 3: Motor racing is the same. You know a lot of 171 00:07:34,667 --> 00:07:36,227 Speaker 3: other sports where you're right on the edge. We've seen 172 00:07:36,267 --> 00:07:38,747 Speaker 3: with the Winter Olympics, you know just how on edge 173 00:07:39,027 --> 00:07:41,707 Speaker 3: the athletes are and there's been some big crashes there 174 00:07:41,747 --> 00:07:44,107 Speaker 3: as well, and that's part of sport. You know, we're 175 00:07:44,147 --> 00:07:47,147 Speaker 3: a technical based sport. You know, there is the risk. 176 00:07:47,227 --> 00:07:48,987 Speaker 3: You know, whether you're riding in a paloton on a 177 00:07:48,987 --> 00:07:52,387 Speaker 3: pushbike and someone goes down. You know, bad things happen. 178 00:07:52,467 --> 00:07:53,827 Speaker 3: But I think at the end of the day that 179 00:07:53,867 --> 00:07:56,787 Speaker 3: the boats are incredible, the athletes are incredible, the absolute 180 00:07:56,787 --> 00:07:59,987 Speaker 3: best sailors are sailing these boats. So we're in good 181 00:07:59,987 --> 00:08:02,387 Speaker 3: shape there and you know, sometimes unlucky things happen. But 182 00:08:02,427 --> 00:08:05,027 Speaker 3: I think going forwards, you know, what we can do 183 00:08:05,147 --> 00:08:07,107 Speaker 3: as a sport is just sort of keep looking at 184 00:08:07,107 --> 00:08:08,827 Speaker 3: what we can do to make sure we're in as 185 00:08:08,867 --> 00:08:10,787 Speaker 3: best possible place as we can be in the future. 186 00:08:10,867 --> 00:08:13,267 Speaker 2: All right, just to finish then, we don't know about 187 00:08:13,307 --> 00:08:16,067 Speaker 2: Higgan's injury. Are you you off to Sydney for the 188 00:08:16,147 --> 00:08:17,947 Speaker 2: for the next regatta in a couple of weeks. Is 189 00:08:17,947 --> 00:08:20,987 Speaker 2: it just kind of event by event for you, Glenn, 190 00:08:21,347 --> 00:08:22,307 Speaker 2: Is that the way it's gonna work. 191 00:08:22,667 --> 00:08:25,107 Speaker 3: Yeah, Look, at this stage, we're really hoping that that 192 00:08:25,187 --> 00:08:27,947 Speaker 3: Ian will be ready to go for Sydney. I mean, 193 00:08:28,107 --> 00:08:29,987 Speaker 3: he's still in a brace at the moment, but he's 194 00:08:30,147 --> 00:08:32,187 Speaker 3: he's got the best of the best looking after him, 195 00:08:32,507 --> 00:08:35,507 Speaker 3: Ash from Emerate'stey New Zealand, like he's joined Emert's New Zealand. 196 00:08:36,427 --> 00:08:38,667 Speaker 3: They've got the best physios, the best doctors, you know, 197 00:08:38,707 --> 00:08:42,947 Speaker 3: helping him go forwards. His acls re knitting. As we know, 198 00:08:43,027 --> 00:08:45,627 Speaker 3: when those fibers just start to re knit, you're okay 199 00:08:45,667 --> 00:08:47,307 Speaker 3: in a sort of straight line in plane, but as 200 00:08:47,347 --> 00:08:51,747 Speaker 3: soon as you twist or load it obscurely you can 201 00:08:51,907 --> 00:08:54,427 Speaker 3: you can cause some damage. So I'm really hoping, you know, 202 00:08:54,627 --> 00:08:56,427 Speaker 3: I'm really hoping that to be ready to go again 203 00:08:56,467 --> 00:08:58,387 Speaker 3: from Sydney, cause I don't know whether my body will 204 00:08:58,427 --> 00:09:01,427 Speaker 3: even be ready to go by Sydney. But look, I 205 00:09:01,547 --> 00:09:03,667 Speaker 3: think all chances are that he'll be ready for Sydney. 206 00:09:03,667 --> 00:09:05,547 Speaker 3: But I'll probably be there on standby just in case, 207 00:09:05,707 --> 00:09:08,787 Speaker 3: you know, something untoward happens. But it's lovely to be 208 00:09:08,907 --> 00:09:11,667 Speaker 3: back again, you know, seeing your friends and the people 209 00:09:11,707 --> 00:09:13,467 Speaker 3: you haven't seen for quite a while, so it's been 210 00:09:13,547 --> 00:09:15,427 Speaker 3: very pleasant but hoping Goops can get back into it 211 00:09:15,427 --> 00:09:16,107 Speaker 3: as soon as possible. 212 00:09:16,187 --> 00:09:17,507 Speaker 2: Well, what a treat for us to have you here 213 00:09:17,547 --> 00:09:19,547 Speaker 2: in Auckland. What a treat to have you join us here. 214 00:09:19,667 --> 00:09:21,227 Speaker 2: A couple of months ago that they said, oh you'll 215 00:09:21,227 --> 00:09:23,547 Speaker 2: be talking to Glen Ashby at Sale gp Auckland. They'll 216 00:09:23,587 --> 00:09:24,747 Speaker 2: just said, what do you mean, what year is? 217 00:09:24,787 --> 00:09:26,667 Speaker 3: It's it me too. 218 00:09:27,147 --> 00:09:29,227 Speaker 2: But it's great to see you mate, Thanks for stopping 219 00:09:29,227 --> 00:09:31,867 Speaker 2: and congratulations to you and the Australian team on a 220 00:09:31,947 --> 00:09:32,867 Speaker 2: tremendous victory here. 221 00:09:32,907 --> 00:09:34,587 Speaker 3: Thanks very much, guys, cheers, good on your mate. 222 00:09:34,587 --> 00:09:37,267 Speaker 2: That's Glen Ashby, out of the Australian team, Champions of 223 00:09:37,427 --> 00:09:39,507 Speaker 2: Sale gp Auckland, twenty twenty six. 224 00:09:40,187 --> 00:09:43,387 Speaker 1: For more from Weekend Sport with Jason Fine, listen live 225 00:09:43,507 --> 00:09:46,787 Speaker 1: to News Talk said B weekends from midday or follow 226 00:09:46,827 --> 00:09:48,387 Speaker 1: the podcast on iHeartRadio