1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,840 Speaker 1: Netball New Zealand's decision to stand down Dame Noline Toto 2 00:00:02,920 --> 00:00:07,240 Speaker 1: has sent shockwaves through netball. Silverfern centurion Laura Langman has 3 00:00:07,240 --> 00:00:11,160 Speaker 1: posted on Facebook that it's gutless and selfish for complaining 4 00:00:11,200 --> 00:00:12,960 Speaker 1: players not to be upfront with what the issues are. 5 00:00:13,039 --> 00:00:13,560 Speaker 1: Let's talk to her. 6 00:00:13,880 --> 00:00:16,200 Speaker 2: Hi, Laura, Hi, how are you going? 7 00:00:16,320 --> 00:00:17,959 Speaker 1: I'm very well, thank you. Do you have any idea 8 00:00:18,040 --> 00:00:18,840 Speaker 1: what's going on here? 9 00:00:20,200 --> 00:00:20,360 Speaker 3: No? 10 00:00:20,600 --> 00:00:21,919 Speaker 2: I don't have any facts. 11 00:00:22,040 --> 00:00:26,479 Speaker 3: I have just had the information that everyone else has. 12 00:00:26,560 --> 00:00:32,120 Speaker 3: But it doesn't dull down the shock and disappointment. 13 00:00:32,320 --> 00:00:38,160 Speaker 2: I think that's been felt worldwide, worldwide. Do you think Yeah? 14 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:43,120 Speaker 3: I saw tans and Greenway has commented on it. 15 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:48,040 Speaker 2: I just think there's just so many levels to this. 16 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:55,000 Speaker 3: For me, besides having been a player under Knowles's leadership 17 00:00:55,080 --> 00:00:59,960 Speaker 3: for many campaigns, it's just not the way we do things. 18 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 2: Kiwis first and foremost. 19 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:05,280 Speaker 3: Secondly, I don't think this is a direction where we 20 00:01:05,319 --> 00:01:06,679 Speaker 3: want sport to be going. 21 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:10,360 Speaker 2: You know, Nipple used to be a household. 22 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:15,559 Speaker 3: Celebrated sport and at the moment we're just not doing 23 00:01:15,600 --> 00:01:17,319 Speaker 3: ourselves any favors at all. 24 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:21,800 Speaker 1: So apparently this has come down to Dame Nolean's communications style. 25 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:23,880 Speaker 1: Any idea what that means? 26 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:24,759 Speaker 2: Yeah? 27 00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:28,480 Speaker 3: I found that interesting, to be honest, and it's really 28 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:32,760 Speaker 3: interesting the perception of people. I can only comment on 29 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:35,760 Speaker 3: what I know, and I know that people VK Noles 30 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:37,800 Speaker 3: and I like besties and are each other every week 31 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:41,039 Speaker 3: like that is not the case. I have a huge 32 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 3: amount of respect for Noles for what she's done for 33 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 3: me as a personal or player. Her communication style I 34 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 3: think is appropriate for the level that she is coaching. 35 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 3: When you make the elite side, a coach's role is 36 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 3: a facilitata. You've been in the sport long enough, you 37 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:06,280 Speaker 3: know what you're looking for, you know the feel the 38 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 3: need to seek feedback, and I think in an environment 39 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:15,360 Speaker 3: where you can get it yourself from video through like 40 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:19,840 Speaker 3: support staff, you don't need to have the coach petting 41 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:21,680 Speaker 3: in you on the back twenty four seven? 42 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:23,640 Speaker 2: Did you reckon? 43 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:24,200 Speaker 1: That's what it is? 44 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:24,680 Speaker 2: Do you reckon? 45 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:27,200 Speaker 1: That's There may be a generation of young players here 46 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:29,960 Speaker 1: who don't want to have to be told where they 47 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:32,359 Speaker 1: need to brush up and be told that harshly. 48 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:35,760 Speaker 3: Well, look, yeah, no one goes into a one on 49 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:37,919 Speaker 3: one and the expecting to be patted on the back 50 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:40,240 Speaker 3: that's for sure. So I don't know if it's around 51 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:45,120 Speaker 3: those communications. I have heard whispers that the environment was 52 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:48,000 Speaker 3: one people were scared to speak. 53 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:51,400 Speaker 2: Up or do anything wrong. 54 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:54,280 Speaker 3: And if I'm really being really blunt, I think that's 55 00:02:54,320 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 3: a cop out. Elite sport level you need to be 56 00:02:58,080 --> 00:03:01,760 Speaker 3: able to have those hard conversations. And under every environment 57 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:04,520 Speaker 3: I've been under, Knowles she is one that empowers her 58 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 3: athletes to have those conversations. 59 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:09,520 Speaker 2: She just like facilitates. 60 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 3: She wants it to be driven by the player group 61 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:15,560 Speaker 3: because we're the ones that are making the decisions out 62 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:18,200 Speaker 3: on court. We can't wait for court a time, halftime 63 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:20,400 Speaker 3: to come and get a pat on the back or 64 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:24,520 Speaker 3: this needs to be changed. Our game's dynamic, like we 65 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:27,000 Speaker 3: as players need to make decisions. So I think for 66 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 3: players to be like we didn't have a voice, I 67 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 3: think it's a cop out because I blatantly. 68 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:34,280 Speaker 1: Know you would of Yeah, Laura, listen, thanks very much 69 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:37,120 Speaker 1: for talking us through at Laura Langman silver Fern Legend. 70 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:40,600 Speaker 1: I just want to say the support for Dame Knowles, 71 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:44,120 Speaker 1: I think is unreal. We even had Gordon Titchens, the 72 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:46,360 Speaker 1: legendary Sevens coach, get in touch with us We didn't 73 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:48,480 Speaker 1: call him. He called us to tell us he wanted 74 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 1: to support Dame Knowles in this. He reckons the players 75 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:53,720 Speaker 1: have got too much say. He reckons she isn't old 76 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:56,080 Speaker 1: school at all like she's been accused of. In fact, 77 00:03:56,080 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 1: she's elevated and changes with the times and accepts that 78 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 1: probably his own style would not be acceptable to these 79 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:03,360 Speaker 1: younger players nowadays. 80 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:03,840 Speaker 2: So there you go. 81 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:07,760 Speaker 1: For more from Hither Duplessy, Allen Drive, listen live to 82 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 1: news talks that'd be from four pm weekdays, or follow 83 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:12,680 Speaker 1: the podcast on iHeartRadio