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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack Team podcast

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Speaker 1: from News Talks at B.

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Speaker 2: It's not your weekend off the right way. Saturday Morning

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Speaker 2: with Jack Team News Talks at B.

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Speaker 3: I tell you what you learn something new every day.

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Speaker 3: Good Morning, New Zealand. Welcome to the News Talks B,

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Speaker 3: Jack Tam and the Hot Seat through the midday. The

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Speaker 3: thing I have learned this morning is that Don mcglashon, Yes,

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Speaker 3: the Don mcglashon used to play the french horn. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I had absolutely no idea not only did he play

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Speaker 3: the french horn or does he play the French horn,

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Speaker 3: but he's a very very very good French player. The

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Speaker 3: reason I know this is he once upon a time

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Speaker 3: played with the Auckland Philharmonic Orchestra. He was their second

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Speaker 3: French horn player. And Don mcglashon has just played with

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Speaker 3: an orchestra once again. He wasn't playing the french horn

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Speaker 3: this time round. He's been playing with the christ Shirt

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Speaker 3: Symphony Orchestra. And I'll tell you what. Don McGlashan is

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Speaker 3: everywhere at the moment. So he's just played with the CSO, right,

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Speaker 3: he'st He is the star of a documentary screening at

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Speaker 3: the New Zealand International Film Festival and as of this morning,

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Speaker 3: Don mcglashon has just released a brand new live album.

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Speaker 3: He is our special guest our feature interview after ten

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Speaker 3: o'clock this morning, so I cannot wait for that before

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Speaker 3: ten Hearty, Healthy, delicious, too fantastic winter soup recipes for you,

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Speaker 3: and we're going to be talking about the on stream

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Speaker 3: chemistry between Liam Neeson and Pamela Anderson in their brand

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Speaker 3: new film, so we'll get to that very shortly. Right now,

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Speaker 3: it is eight minutes past nine.

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Speaker 4: Jack team.

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 3: That I like to try and kick things off on

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Speaker 3: a Saturday morning with a bit of chair, a bit

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Speaker 3: of sunshine. But I'll tell you what it is hard

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Speaker 3: to look beyond yet another terrible bleak milestone in the

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Speaker 3: appalling war in Gaza. So overnight the UN backed Food

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Speaker 3: Security Body has a very long name, a very long acronym,

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Speaker 3: but it's confirmed famine in Gaza City. It's officially reached

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Speaker 3: that threshold, the first time that famine has ever been

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Speaker 3: declared in the Middle East. As the UN Secretary General declared,

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Speaker 3: this is a man made catastrophe. There are many, many

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Speaker 3: third party countries that want to get more aid into Gaza.

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Speaker 3: A shortage of food isn't the problem. Access and distribution

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Speaker 3: is Two years ago, immediately after the October seventh attacks,

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Speaker 3: I said a few things on this show, and I

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Speaker 3: went back and looked up my editorial from that day.

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Speaker 3: I just want to share with you again a few

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Speaker 3: words that I wrote that day, quote Israel has the

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Speaker 3: right to exist in peace. Palestine should have the freedom

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Speaker 3: of statehood. Both of those things can be true. The

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Speaker 3: deliberate targeting of Israeli civilians is an appalling, utterly inexcusable

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Speaker 3: act of violence. The systematic flattening of Gaza no water,

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Speaker 3: no power, no food is an unacceptably brutal collective punishment

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Speaker 3: for a huge civilian population where almost half of people

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Speaker 3: are children. Both of those things can be true too.

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Speaker 3: As the war has progressed, the scale and nature of

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Speaker 3: Israel's reprisals has made it obvious to many millions of

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Speaker 3: fair minded people that a country born from the gravest

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Speaker 3: atrocities last century is now also responsible for them. Figures

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Speaker 3: from Elked Israeli database this week suggest that eighty three

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Speaker 3: percent of those killed in Gaza have been civilians, per

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Speaker 3: more than four out of five of course, Israel denies

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Speaker 3: genocide and war crimes, but independent verification is nigh impossible

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Speaker 3: as no journalists are allowed in and many of those

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Speaker 3: one of the many, many great tragedies in all of

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Speaker 3: this is I think has become increasingly clear that Israel

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Speaker 3: has played into Hamas's hands. Evil as the strategy might

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Speaker 3: have been, Hamas wanted to spur an extreme and disproportionate response,

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Speaker 3: motivated by their own personal agendas and self preservation. Israel's

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Speaker 3: leaders fell for it, and now we have kids mere

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Speaker 3: dying from malnutrition. The thing that I still don't understand

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Speaker 3: is how any Israeli leader thinks this will ultimately make

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Speaker 3: their people safer. Maybe in the short term, sure, is

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Speaker 3: five other survivors. The war in Gaza has condemned generations

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Speaker 3: sadly feels just as relevant today. It's a cycle. Hate

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Speaker 3: and violence is a cycle. There is no way for

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Speaker 3: any party to kill and fight their way to a lasting,

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Speaker 3: peaceful resolution. Har Maas's attack has spurred the Israeli reprisal.

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Speaker 3: The reprisal will spur Palestinians into violence in the future,

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Speaker 3: which in turn will spur an Israeli reprisal. Rinse the

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Speaker 3: blood and repeat, Hate breeds, hate breeds.

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Speaker 6: Hate check Team.

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Speaker 3: Well, that was Cherry. Sorry, this feels like one of

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Speaker 3: those days where you have to address that. If you

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Speaker 3: want to get in touch this morning, you can do so.

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Speaker 3: Ninety two ninety two is our text number. You can

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Speaker 3: email me as well, Jacket Newstalks, ZEDB dot co dot

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Speaker 3: nz after ten o'clock this morning and our screen time segment,

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Speaker 3: we're going to look at a crazy couple of documentaries

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Speaker 3: one or crazy I'm fascinating couple of documentaries. One is

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Speaker 3: looking back at Hurricane Katrina twenty years on, going and

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Speaker 3: most affected by that, and the other one, which has

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Speaker 3: been incredibly keenly anticipated, looks at the reality TV phenomenon

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Speaker 3: The Biggest Loser. I think it's fair to say The

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Speaker 3: Biggest Loser wouldn't be made today. One of those shows

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Speaker 3: that maybe felt a little bit questionable at the time,

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Speaker 3: but feels very questionable today. So anyway, we're going to

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Speaker 3: tell you about that documentary after ten o'clock this morning.

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Speaker 3: Hayden Jones is and to kick us off for our

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Speaker 3: Saturday Morning next Right now, it's thirteen minutes past nine.

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Speaker 3: I'm Jack Tame at Saturday Morning. This is News Talk ZEDB.

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Speaker 6: Why Bet a way to kick off your weekend.

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Speaker 2: Then with Jacky Saturday Morning with Jack Team News Talks B.

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Speaker 3: Six Team Menus past nine on News Silks by Jack.

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Speaker 3: You are one hundred percent right. Don mcglassans everywhere at

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Speaker 3: the moment's so good. I was at the CSO concert

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Speaker 3: last Saturday night. It was superb so oh who whoa

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Speaker 3: whoa good on stage with his trusty euphonium keyboard and guitar.

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Speaker 3: He's just such a versatile musician and poets still humming

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Speaker 3: Dominion Road to myself a week later. Thank you so

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Speaker 3: much for a great night, Don, says Anne love it.

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Speaker 3: Thanks An ninety two. If you want to get in

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Speaker 3: touch Hayden Jones is with us this morning, but not sidelined.

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Speaker 3: Don't tell me you've been banned, hato.

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Speaker 7: No, no, no, we've got late game.

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Speaker 3: Okay, what's a late game for your son's football team?

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Speaker 7: Eighteen thirty?

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, teen thirty in the morning.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, because our eight year old has eight am kickoffs,

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Speaker 3: See, I think that's when I remember. I have these

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Speaker 3: as like an eight year old, and the frost would

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Speaker 3: the kind of as the whatever, the frost started to dissipate,

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Speaker 3: absolutely freezing cold. You go into the first ruck of

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Speaker 3: I've ever experienced pain like that.

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Speaker 7: Anyway, I grew up, and I grew up in Southend

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Speaker 7: would play my Tolder and those boys from the Tolder

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Speaker 7: and most of them had you know, seven a side.

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Speaker 3: He is on me.

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Speaker 7: Let's work close to mustaches and mullets and always won

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Speaker 8: There you go, joy, Oh my goodness.

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Speaker 3: Anyway, so you've been warming yourself up this week a

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Speaker 3: little bit you have. I've got to be honest, heyter,

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Speaker 3: you're a little late to the crazy. You've started baking sour.

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Speaker 7: Well, look, nothing says you're a middle aged men, like

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Speaker 7: you know, long after sort of the craft beer stage,

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Speaker 7: before the veggie garden stage. Yes, soada was kind of

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Speaker 7: a it's in and there on that you've hit middle age?

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Speaker 7: Is my kids like to call it Boomertown. Nothing really

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Speaker 7: of course we ended up where every human ends up

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Speaker 7: Briscoes and brought my first Dutch oven.

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Speaker 3: Oh I've got on do you cook sowdo on a

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Speaker 7: Well, as a him South, and I saw a Dutch

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Speaker 3: Yees, yeah, is that a Dutch oven?

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Speaker 3: As a Dutch over here, it's got the lid right.

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Speaker 7: Well, look, I'm relying on I've only got one source

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Speaker 7: of truth the South. It's my mate down the road.

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Speaker 8: Over I think it is.

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Speaker 3: You mean, I've got one of two. They're good for

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Speaker 3: making like slow cook meats. Oh, if you want to

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Speaker 7: When we were like kids on the news, well, and

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Speaker 7: I never thought that we would end up doing a

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Speaker 3: It's yeah, it's the like the middle aged dad's cooking

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Speaker 3: class with Hato and Jack.

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Speaker 7: Oh my god, hey, play out your phone, have your

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Speaker 7: phone in the studio, Yeah, pull out your phone and

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Speaker 7: opened up your photo gallery. Because my photo gallery is

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Speaker 7: kind of gone from sort of meals rolling out and

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Speaker 7: maybe you know, drinking times with my buddies or photos

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Speaker 7: of my kids to just photos of sourdough. You how,

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Speaker 7: and the listeners can do this at home as well.

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Speaker 7: But if you open up your photo gallery and that

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Speaker 3: You've got yeah, minor photos of my kids like spewing

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Speaker 3: the neighbor. It's basically just.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, So that's the stage of life you're in.

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Speaker 7: Then people will be opening their phones around your Zviella

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Speaker 7: and white Man and going, oh, I'm at that stage.

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Speaker 7: So I'm at the sod dough stage.

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Speaker 4: Very happy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I think it's a good stage. It's

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Speaker 3: a healthy stage. So are you now keeping the sour

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Speaker 7: Yes, I've got a starter called it Stewart.

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Speaker 3: Right, very good? Why Stuart just a stister?

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Speaker 7: My daughter got a driver's license, which kind of you

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Speaker 3: It's coming, it's coming, bro, it really is.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, And I've got you.

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Speaker 7: Do you own one of those little chili bins that

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Speaker 4: You can't go overboard. That's kind of a real middle

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Speaker 3: That's good.

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Speaker 3: It's all about balance, Hayden, this is this is necessarily. Hey,

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Speaker 7: Oh my goodness, this is wretch coming from me. You're

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Speaker 3: Spoken like someone who hasn't seen me after his son

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Speaker 10: Killed to Jack, the key question is what did you

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Speaker 10: Very hard. Talk about laying a marker down. I didn't

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Speaker 10: He's almost the height of the thing is jack. He's big,

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Speaker 3: wasn't connected to anything and flooded the entire laundry half

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Speaker 3: the house yesterday. She was out for about three hours

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Speaker 3: and we have gas hot water, so I went and

436
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Speaker 3: checked my the gas usage for yesterday alone, I think

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Speaker 3: we're looking at about just twenty five dollars in gas.

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Speaker 4: She got through it just just for.

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Speaker 3: The hot water. So that's so, that's good. Happy days.

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445
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Speaker 13: trying to find a flight today?

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Speaker 3: Thought you know you can.

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Speaker 13: Yea to fly from you know, christ Church to Aukland.

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Speaker 3: Good thing. Yes, the airlines, the airlines obviously aren't aware

449
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Speaker 3: of the dates for the for the Uni holidays, so

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Speaker 3: they know that there's not you know a lot of

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Speaker 3: people wanting.

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Speaker 13: To fly all over the place anyway, So that you

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Speaker 13: considering more than twenty five that's true, that's true.

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Speaker 3: You here with our movie picts this week. Two quite

456
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Speaker 3: interesting sounding films. That's start off with one that has

457
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Speaker 3: a lot of people talking, starring Liam Neeson and Pamela Anderson.

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Speaker 3: This is The Naked Gun.

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Speaker 9: Once you kill a man for revenge. There's not going

460
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Speaker 9: back a voice in your head saying, oh that was awesome.

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Speaker 9: Who are you driven, Detective Frank Drebbon.

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Speaker 3: Okay, this is tongue in cheek to say the least.

463
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Speaker 13: This is a spoof. This is very much a spoof,

464
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Speaker 13: a copspoof, comedy.

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Speaker 3: Basic kind of films that he does.

466
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Speaker 13: Yes, based of course on the original which I think

467
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Speaker 13: was released late eighties, and there was a few others.

468
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Speaker 3: That went with it.

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Speaker 13: There was ever Plane in Top Secret, which was kind

470
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Speaker 13: of like a spy spoof as well. Everyone will remember

471
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Speaker 13: Leslie Nielsen. He was the star of these shows. He

472
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Speaker 13: wasn't always you know, this kind of comedic actor, but

473
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Speaker 13: I think it's what we mostly remember him for. Frank

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Speaker 13: Drebbon And in this ringmake Liam Neeson takes on the

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Speaker 13: role of Frank Dribbon junior, his son, and he has

476
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Speaker 13: that sort of same poker face, that same dead pan

477
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Speaker 13: kind of delivery, and as you mentioned, he's kind of

478
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Speaker 13: taking the mickey out of that tough guy, you know,

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Speaker 13: I we're kind of that he's made a sort of

480
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Speaker 13: a late career out of so he's a really great

481
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Speaker 13: choice and he totally totally dedicates himself to this role.

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Speaker 13: I'd like to say at this point, I don't find personally,

483
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Speaker 13: I don't find this kind of comedy really funny. It's

484
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Speaker 13: too obvious for me. It's all sight gags which kind

485
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Speaker 13: of make me smile, but they don't crack me up.

486
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Speaker 13: They don't take me by surprise and make me laugh

487
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Speaker 13: out loud. So this is not a film for me,

488
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Speaker 13: and I think it's important I should say that up front.

489
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Speaker 13: If you loved these spoofs, you know, Nake a Gun

490
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Speaker 13: and Airplane and things like that, if you loved them

491
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Speaker 13: back in the day, you're gonna absolutely love this. I

492
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Speaker 13: don't think it quite surpasses the original, but it's the

493
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Speaker 13: same kind of thing, and I think you're going to

494
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Speaker 13: really dig it. And probably what I enjoyed the most

495
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Speaker 13: was watching this in a full theater because there was

496
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Speaker 13: a woman at the back who was crackling with laughter

497
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Speaker 13: so loud. I just loved listening to her. I have

498
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Speaker 13: so much joy watching this film. It's a bit like

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Speaker 13: Day Night Live. Do you find sir, Day Night GAG's funny?

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Speaker 3: They kind of make me small, but I don't get

501
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Speaker 3: them that don't make.

502
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Speaker 13: Me laugh out loud.

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Speaker 3: Vague yeah, yeah, totally.

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Speaker 13: So that's how I find this kind of comedy. So

505
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Speaker 13: for me, this isn't for me. This is kind of

506
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Speaker 13: like pulling teeth a little. But I had a director

507
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Speaker 13: once who told me, Jack, the more you tell a joke,

508
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Speaker 13: the funnier it gets. And I would say this film

509
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Speaker 13: is proof that that is not necessarily true, because you know,

510
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Speaker 13: there's the whole gag with cops. You know that everyone

511
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Speaker 13: they always got a coffee in their hand, and everybody

512
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Speaker 13: laughed at the beginning of this film. I did notice

513
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Speaker 13: that the laughs did dry up the last did drive

514
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Speaker 13: about halfway through watching this film, and everyone was kind

515
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Speaker 13: of okay again and again.

516
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Speaker 5: But no.

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Speaker 13: Pamela Anderson also stars, and she is She has a

518
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Speaker 13: standout scene in a jazz club where she does a

519
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Speaker 13: sort of a scat song in order to give Liam

520
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Speaker 13: Neeson's character time to kind of find some information, and

521
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Speaker 13: that is she does a really good job of that,

522
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Speaker 13: and it's and it's it's quite good. But look basically

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Speaker 13: the films when the film starts as a bank heist

524
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Speaker 13: and what they steal out of a safe deposit box

525
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Speaker 13: is a device which has on it plot device right now,

526
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Speaker 13: if you think that is absolutely hilarious, and then you

527
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Speaker 13: are gonna love this film, and that's where I probably.

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Speaker 5: Where.

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Speaker 13: Actually, yeah, I kind of like that. That's my sense

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Speaker 13: of humor. Then go and enjoy.

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Speaker 3: Lots of other people.

532
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Speaker 13: Are enjoying it.

533
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Speaker 3: But yeah, I just have to be honest with you.

534
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Speaker 13: This this isn't kind of my captaque.

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Speaker 9: Fair enough?

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Speaker 3: Okay, that's the naked gun. What about the chemistry? Was

537
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Speaker 3: the big chemistry between old.

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Speaker 13: No, no, no, no? They were quite charming together. Yeah, okay, yeah,

539
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Speaker 13: if you can get through the silliness.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, right, So that's the naked gun that's showing in cinemas.

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Speaker 3: Also showing in cinemas. Let's ever listen to work mates.

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Speaker 6: This is a professional production.

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Speaker 14: Is this a professional theater?

544
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Speaker 3: This is a New Zealand film from the International Film Festival.

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Speaker 13: This is one I found quite funny. I do have

546
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Speaker 13: a sense of humor. Sophie Henderson wrote this script and

547
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Speaker 13: she also stars and as Lucy along with Matt Wheeland

548
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Speaker 13: as Tom. And they are brilliant together. Their chemistry is fantastic.

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Speaker 13: I'm presuming that they've worked together and know each other

550
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Speaker 13: quite well. They co manage a theater in Auckland, and

551
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Speaker 13: the film is based on Sophie's own experience of running

552
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Speaker 13: the Basement Theater when they actually shot the film at

553
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Speaker 13: the Basement Theater. And this is the point where the

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Speaker 13: theater would like me to say that self, that health

555
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Speaker 13: and safety has changed an awful lot since Sophie worked

556
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Speaker 13: there and based this film on it, because there's some

557
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Speaker 13: very funny things that these two do in order to

558
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Speaker 13: keep this theater going, which would of course not be

559
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Speaker 13: allowed today because you know, we love a road cone.

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Speaker 13: So I just like I know that Sophie did say

561
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Speaker 13: to me, Oh, I said the theaters stood of going.

562
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Speaker 13: We're not like that now, So I'm just going to

563
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Speaker 13: put that out there. But look, I think this is

564
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Speaker 13: a great film. Yes, they go to these incredible links

565
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Speaker 13: to keep the theater going, but there is a film

566
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Speaker 13: about theater, and it's a love letter to theater and

567
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Speaker 13: the incredible people who work in the arts, who just

568
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Speaker 13: make things happen and provide platforms for other people with

569
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Speaker 13: very little money. It's also a coming of age story.

570
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Speaker 13: So Lucy absolutely loves her job and is very dedicated

571
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Speaker 13: to it and can't really see herself ever moving on. Tom, however,

572
00:29:15,853 --> 00:29:17,253
Speaker 13: is in a relation to a bat to have a

573
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Speaker 13: baby and knows career wise he needs to take sort

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Speaker 13: of a step forward. So then Lucy wonders whether she's

575
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Speaker 13: in love with Tom, and she makes a wonderful mess

576
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Speaker 13: of that. And that's what I like about Sophie Henderson's

577
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Speaker 13: films is she writes real and relatable characters and they're messy,

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Speaker 13: and you know, there will be moments where you're watching

579
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Speaker 13: these characters and you will recognize these people. You will

580
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Speaker 13: know one of these people or what they're doing or

581
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Speaker 13: what they're going through. So this is a fabulous film.

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Speaker 13: It premiered at the New Zealand International Film Festival. It

583
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Speaker 13: is back now in cinemas.

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Speaker 5: That's one.

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Speaker 3: I had a good life at Great. It sounds really good.

586
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Speaker 3: So that's work mates. I'm looking forward to seeing that.

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Speaker 3: The thing about the basement theater has got very low roof,

588
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Speaker 3: you know, clustrophobic. Well, I just when I go in there,

589
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Speaker 3: I'm always just very aware of it. It's like being

590
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Speaker 3: in a submarine now.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 13: And I suppose if you knew that sometimes that they

593
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Speaker 13: put sort of ice container's over the smoke over the

594
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Speaker 13: smoke alarms, so that you know, yeah, yeah, things didn't go.

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Speaker 3: I'm sure, I'm sure that standards that safety is up

596
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Speaker 3: to speak. Of course, of course it's okay, So that

597
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Speaker 3: is work mate's. Francisca's first pick is the Naked Gun.

598
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Speaker 3: All of the details for those films is up. On

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Speaker 3: the News Talks, he'd be websites, so nice to see

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Speaker 3: you in person. Good luck getting your son back. Don't

601
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Speaker 3: be afraid to make him hitchhike next time. Although we

602
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Speaker 3: never get across the cook straight these days, we'll give

603
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Speaker 3: them the state of the fairies, all right, call it

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Speaker 3: to ten. On News Talks, he'd be two delicious soup

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Speaker 3: recipes for your next.

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Speaker 2: Saturday morning with Jack Team, keeping the conversation going through

607
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Speaker 2: the weekend US Talks.

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Speaker 3: He'd be don't forget if you just feel like this

609
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Speaker 3: weekend and actually, as great as Francisca's film picks sound,

610
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Speaker 3: you're really into Liam Neeson repeating the same gag for

611
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Speaker 3: ninety minutes, if you just want to stay home this weekend,

612
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Speaker 3: you're thinking, actually, this is a weekend, we're just going

613
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Speaker 3: to stream a couple of series, watching your TV show

614
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Speaker 3: something like that. After ten o'clock we've got our screen

615
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Speaker 3: time segment and so we will share with you three

616
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Speaker 3: fantastic shows, three recommendations that will be really good if

617
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Speaker 3: you're feeling like that this weekend. Right now, though, it

618
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Speaker 3: is time to catch up with our cook, Nikki Wex,

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Speaker 3: who's here with them very hearty and healthy sounding recipes

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Speaker 3: for us this morning. Niki, Yes, good morning.

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Speaker 6: I know.

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Speaker 15: Well, easy soups, I thought, and I thought, well, we

623
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Speaker 15: could probably cram two of them. And boy is it

624
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Speaker 15: the day for it today? It is so cold today.

625
00:31:34,253 --> 00:31:37,133
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's been very chilly.

626
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Speaker 15: If we had to get a swimming what did you

627
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Speaker 15: do it? No, not yet, but well after you I promise,

628
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Speaker 15: I promise.

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Speaker 3: It's not going to be easy in the ocean.

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Speaker 15: It's okay in the ocean. Absolutely in the ocean.

631
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Speaker 3: You're amazing in and out in an amazing I know.

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Speaker 15: I don't want to do it now, but I will

633
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Speaker 15: after I come out, I'll be so happy.

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Speaker 3: And so you have the soup ready to go, all right,

635
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Speaker 3: so that we can get through.

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Speaker 15: Both of them. I have got a turmeric and ginger

637
00:32:01,893 --> 00:32:04,813
Speaker 15: chicken broth. So both of these soups this week are

638
00:32:04,893 --> 00:32:06,533
Speaker 15: not the ones that you would put a blea. You

639
00:32:06,613 --> 00:32:07,533
Speaker 15: put it through a blender.

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Speaker 9: Like you would a.

641
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Speaker 15: Pumpkin souper whatever. They're quite brothy and fantastic. I use

642
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Speaker 15: a chicken frame for this. I buy those boss Stocks.

643
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Speaker 15: It's not an ad, but I buy those boss Stocks

644
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Speaker 15: ones from the supermarket, which are two frames actually in

645
00:32:20,253 --> 00:32:22,813
Speaker 15: a bag, but from your butcher. All left over from

646
00:32:22,853 --> 00:32:25,573
Speaker 15: a roast chicken is a great idea. So in a pot,

647
00:32:25,733 --> 00:32:29,053
Speaker 15: cover the chicken frame or frames with water and bring

648
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Speaker 15: that to a rapid simmer. And then sometimes especially if

649
00:32:33,533 --> 00:32:36,213
Speaker 15: it's not a pre roasted chicken, if it's if you're

650
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Speaker 15: doing that from raw, you'll get a little bit of

651
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Speaker 15: scum comes on the top, so there's no other way

652
00:32:39,693 --> 00:32:41,573
Speaker 15: to put it. Take that off of the slotted spoon.

653
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Speaker 15: I don't know why I do it. I just must

654
00:32:42,933 --> 00:32:45,093
Speaker 15: have learned it at cooking school or something. Makes a

655
00:32:45,173 --> 00:32:48,493
Speaker 15: nice clear broth, and then you just throw all the

656
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Speaker 15: rest of your ingredients in, which is a large onion

657
00:32:50,613 --> 00:32:53,413
Speaker 15: that you've diced, half a leak, use the white and

658
00:32:53,573 --> 00:32:56,573
Speaker 15: the green bits chopped up, two carrots, dice those up

659
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Speaker 15: nice and small, a decent thumb sized piece of ginger,

660
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Speaker 15: and you're going to use a few extra strips to

661
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Speaker 15: garnish it. Later too, forty grams of fresh turmeric and

662
00:33:05,773 --> 00:33:08,373
Speaker 15: that sort of the shops at the moment you want

663
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Speaker 15: to grate that up and all you can use one

664
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Speaker 15: heaped tablespoon of dried turmeric, not quite as good, but

665
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Speaker 15: there you go, or fifty meals of turmeric juice. You

666
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Speaker 15: can sometimes buy the juice and supermarkets too. One to

667
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Speaker 15: two teaspoons of salt, because turmeric has a very earthy flavor,

668
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Speaker 15: and you really want to make sure that you offset

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Speaker 15: that with a bit of salt and a good half

670
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Speaker 15: to one teaspoon of black pepper jack. That really helps

671
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Speaker 15: our turmeric do. It's an anti inflammatory trick. And then

672
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Speaker 15: just cook all that up for about thirty to forty

673
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Speaker 15: five minutes, take the frame out, strip all the meat

674
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Speaker 15: off it, put the meat back in and taste it

675
00:33:43,573 --> 00:33:46,333
Speaker 15: for seasoning. And it's just absolutely beautiful. And I save

676
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Speaker 15: that in vols with a little bit more dinger, perhaps

677
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Speaker 15: some spring onions or chibes or coriander to garnish it.

678
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Speaker 15: So that's number one. Number two greens, garlic, lemon, and lentil.

679
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Speaker 15: My beautiful niece Harriet showed me how to cook this.

680
00:34:00,773 --> 00:34:03,293
Speaker 15: I thought doesn't sound great, love, but it was amazing.

681
00:34:03,813 --> 00:34:06,933
Speaker 15: So what you do is you gently fry a good

682
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Speaker 15: quarter of a cup of olive oil, one large onion

683
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Speaker 15: that you've chopped up, three cloves of garlic, and then

684
00:34:12,533 --> 00:34:15,453
Speaker 15: four to five big handfuls of chopped charred go in there.

685
00:34:15,493 --> 00:34:17,853
Speaker 15: Once those garlic and onions have softened up, you can

686
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Speaker 15: use charred spinach or silver beet and just char them

687
00:34:21,453 --> 00:34:23,773
Speaker 15: a little bit, which gives it a lovely smoky flavor.

688
00:34:24,253 --> 00:34:28,013
Speaker 15: Add a four hundred grand can of drained brown lentils,

689
00:34:28,773 --> 00:34:31,053
Speaker 15: pour over about a liter of water, don't even need

690
00:34:31,093 --> 00:34:33,573
Speaker 15: to use stock. Add a good amount of salt and pepper.

691
00:34:33,653 --> 00:34:36,453
Speaker 15: So I use one good teaspoon of sea salt, about

692
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Speaker 15: quarter of a teaspoon of pepper, and then squeeze in

693
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Speaker 15: lemon juice. This is the kicker juice from one to

694
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Speaker 15: two nice big juicy lemons. And I've usually got some

695
00:34:46,773 --> 00:34:49,533
Speaker 15: frozen fetter hanging around, so when I serve it, I

696
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Speaker 15: microplane or finally grate some of that frozen.

697
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Speaker 14: Fetter on top.

698
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Speaker 15: It's the most beautiful soup, and it's ready.

699
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Speaker 14: In no time.

700
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Speaker 15: It's really fantastic. It's really just as long as the

701
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Speaker 15: whole thing comes to a simmer. Yeah, it's beautiful, absolutely gorgeous.

702
00:35:02,853 --> 00:35:03,893
Speaker 14: So two great soups for.

703
00:35:03,933 --> 00:35:06,173
Speaker 3: Us to have delicious soups. And the key is of

704
00:35:06,973 --> 00:35:09,613
Speaker 3: a nice bit of crusty bread flashings.

705
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Speaker 8: Of course.

706
00:35:11,373 --> 00:35:12,893
Speaker 3: Well I would usually say butter.

707
00:35:14,293 --> 00:35:17,053
Speaker 8: Well yeah, I.

708
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Speaker 15: Mean, yeah, you need to use it on toast.

709
00:35:21,213 --> 00:35:22,013
Speaker 14: I mean, that's the thing.

710
00:35:22,133 --> 00:35:24,213
Speaker 15: Save it for the toast people. But yeah, and look,

711
00:35:24,253 --> 00:35:26,253
Speaker 15: you're saving on your power bill because I tell you what,

712
00:35:26,773 --> 00:35:29,973
Speaker 15: soup warms you up from the inside every single time.

713
00:35:30,133 --> 00:35:32,653
Speaker 15: So these nice brothy ones, they don't take long to cook,

714
00:35:32,733 --> 00:35:35,093
Speaker 15: so you're not using much electricity having them on the

715
00:35:35,133 --> 00:35:37,773
Speaker 15: stove for hours and hours and hours like a pean ham.

716
00:35:37,733 --> 00:35:38,373
Speaker 14: Soup or whatever.

717
00:35:38,693 --> 00:35:41,813
Speaker 15: They're quick, they're beautiful, and they're super nourishing and great.

718
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Speaker 8: Yeah.

719
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Speaker 3: So when you say you have a swim every day,

720
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Speaker 3: you go out your port, white cuttle, So you go

721
00:35:46,373 --> 00:35:48,493
Speaker 3: out into into the surf. Do you put your head under?

722
00:35:48,973 --> 00:35:50,373
Speaker 14: Oh yeah, oh yeah, you god to put your head

723
00:35:50,373 --> 00:35:50,573
Speaker 14: into it.

724
00:35:50,613 --> 00:35:52,813
Speaker 15: I go under three waves at least.

725
00:35:52,893 --> 00:35:55,653
Speaker 3: Right, Okay, that's the routine. Three waves and that's the routine.

726
00:35:55,733 --> 00:35:58,533
Speaker 15: And look, I'm a year round swimmer. I don't say

727
00:35:58,693 --> 00:36:01,213
Speaker 15: every day because sometimes it's just a bit prohibitive down here.

728
00:36:01,293 --> 00:36:04,133
Speaker 15: But and all I think when I come when I

729
00:36:04,213 --> 00:36:06,573
Speaker 15: go in, I just think I'm stupid and I I'm

730
00:36:06,613 --> 00:36:09,053
Speaker 15: not enjoying myself. As soon as I come out, I

731
00:36:09,173 --> 00:36:11,893
Speaker 15: feel sorry for everyone else who's waiting for summer.

732
00:36:12,373 --> 00:36:15,053
Speaker 3: Just yeah, well, like someone who's say to me Once

733
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Speaker 3: I went from the midwinter swim months and someone said

734
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Speaker 3: to me, does it every day? And they said, every

735
00:36:20,053 --> 00:36:21,693
Speaker 3: day you don't swim in the ocean is another day

736
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Speaker 3: you don't swim the ocean before you die.

737
00:36:23,493 --> 00:36:25,733
Speaker 15: And I was like, Yeah, that's not like that really,

738
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Speaker 15: know thin the summer comes, everyone goes on exactly. Yeah, yeah,

739
00:36:29,813 --> 00:36:32,053
Speaker 15: I don't feel at all I enjoyment when you're swimming.

740
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Speaker 15: So then you got a bit to go for one, now.

741
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Speaker 6: Yeah, you go do that.

742
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Speaker 3: Thank you so much. Those delicious sounding risks for Nikki's

743
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Speaker 3: two soups will be up and available on the news

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Speaker 3: talks He'd be website right now. It is seven to ten.

745
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Speaker 2: Giving you the inside scoop on all you need to

746
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Speaker 2: know Saturday morning with Jack Team Youth Talks.

747
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Speaker 9: It'd be.

748
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Speaker 3: So it is that time of the year when the

749
00:36:54,333 --> 00:36:57,013
Speaker 3: big tech companies do their big announcements and you know,

750
00:36:57,093 --> 00:36:59,453
Speaker 3: they come out with all their new products and various

751
00:36:59,453 --> 00:37:01,533
Speaker 3: bits and pieces and things. So in a couple of

752
00:37:01,573 --> 00:37:04,453
Speaker 3: weeks time, we are expecting Apple to have their big

753
00:37:04,573 --> 00:37:06,893
Speaker 3: day where they you know, pull out everything on stage

754
00:37:06,933 --> 00:37:09,253
Speaker 3: and say this is the new iPhone. You definitely need

755
00:37:09,333 --> 00:37:11,573
Speaker 3: to spend three grand buying a brand new one, even

756
00:37:11,573 --> 00:37:14,493
Speaker 3: though you only updated your phone two years ago. But

757
00:37:14,573 --> 00:37:16,253
Speaker 3: it was Google's turn this week to do more or

758
00:37:16,333 --> 00:37:18,013
Speaker 3: less the same thing, and it was a bit weird,

759
00:37:18,493 --> 00:37:22,173
Speaker 3: to be honest. It was unusual. They certainly splashed the

760
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Speaker 3: cash when it came to the big names. So they

761
00:37:24,973 --> 00:37:30,333
Speaker 3: had the likes of NBA star Stephen Curry, they had

762
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Speaker 3: the Jonas brothers, which had our producer they'll be very

763
00:37:34,173 --> 00:37:37,933
Speaker 3: very excited, and they had us late night hosts, Jimmy Fallon,

764
00:37:38,013 --> 00:37:40,453
Speaker 3: he was hosting the whole thing. But it was just,

765
00:37:41,053 --> 00:37:42,973
Speaker 3: I don't know, the tone of the whole thing was

766
00:37:43,013 --> 00:37:45,573
Speaker 3: a little bit unusual. And so they were launching their

767
00:37:45,613 --> 00:37:49,373
Speaker 3: new phones, and you know Google's got the folding phones,

768
00:37:49,853 --> 00:37:52,413
Speaker 3: which is you know, fairly interesting, so they were announcing

769
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Speaker 3: new ones of those. Anyway, we're going to take a

770
00:37:54,133 --> 00:37:56,053
Speaker 3: close look at their announcements. What's going to and what

771
00:37:56,093 --> 00:37:57,853
Speaker 3: it's going to mean for the big tech race between

772
00:37:57,893 --> 00:38:00,933
Speaker 3: those top tech companies, and ask our tech s Burt

773
00:38:01,173 --> 00:38:04,773
Speaker 3: what he thought about the grand opening this week when

774
00:38:04,813 --> 00:38:07,173
Speaker 3: he joins us after ten o'clock and don't forget of course,

775
00:38:07,293 --> 00:38:10,533
Speaker 3: our feature interview is a man who is everywhere Kiwi

776
00:38:10,733 --> 00:38:13,933
Speaker 3: music legend Dommoglasson is the star of a new documentary

777
00:38:13,933 --> 00:38:17,373
Speaker 3: at the Film Festival. He's just played alongside the christi

778
00:38:17,453 --> 00:38:21,373
Speaker 3: At Symphony Orchestra, and after this amazing nationwide tour in

779
00:38:21,413 --> 00:38:25,093
Speaker 3: which he played all sorts of fascinating your venues and

780
00:38:25,173 --> 00:38:29,053
Speaker 3: gigs around the country, he's just released his first ever

781
00:38:29,573 --> 00:38:32,693
Speaker 3: live album. The album is called Take It to the Bridge.

782
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Speaker 3: We're gonna play you a little bit right after the

783
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Speaker 3: ten o'clock news and Don mcglashon will be our guest.

784
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Speaker 3: There's almost news time though almost ten o'clock Saturday morning.

785
00:38:40,213 --> 00:38:42,173
Speaker 3: I'm Jack Tayane. This is News Talks.

786
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Speaker 4: He'd be.

787
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Speaker 2: A cracking way to start Saturday Saturday morning with Jack

788
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Speaker 2: Team News Talks at the.

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Speaker 16: Ricution.

790
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Speaker 9: Shine on my Sister shine.

791
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Speaker 8: On a co.

792
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Speaker 16: Micalon shine A word of shinever vercau shine O, My

793
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Speaker 16: Sister shine on a come.

794
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Speaker 3: Music legends. Dom McGlashan has written some of our most

795
00:39:46,333 --> 00:39:50,213
Speaker 3: loved songs, from Anchor Me and his time with the

796
00:39:50,253 --> 00:39:52,693
Speaker 3: Mudd and Birds through to his incredible work as a

797
00:39:52,773 --> 00:39:56,693
Speaker 3: solo artist and composer for film and television. In twenty

798
00:39:56,733 --> 00:39:59,613
Speaker 3: twenty three, Dom went on a very special tour around

799
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Speaker 3: New Zealand, and off the back of that, for the

800
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Speaker 3: first time ever, he's just released a solo live album,

801
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Speaker 3: Take It to the Bridge. Don Mglasson is with us

802
00:40:07,893 --> 00:40:10,493
Speaker 3: this morning. Cald A, good morning, how are you. I'm

803
00:40:10,613 --> 00:40:12,813
Speaker 3: very well, thank you, delighted to be speaking with you,

804
00:40:12,973 --> 00:40:16,013
Speaker 3: and it feels like you're sort of everywhere everywhere at

805
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Speaker 3: the moment. But take us back a little bit. It

806
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Speaker 3: was twenty twenty three when you were touring. Tell us

807
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Speaker 3: about the recording process to Take It to the Bridge.

808
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Speaker 12: Well, I've never been really into live albums for some reason.

809
00:40:30,293 --> 00:40:32,813
Speaker 12: I don't know. I've been I must have been part

810
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Speaker 12: of the making of a dozen or more studio albums,

811
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Speaker 12: but I've never I guess I've never listened to many

812
00:40:39,973 --> 00:40:42,773
Speaker 12: live albums, that's the issue. So it sort of surprised

813
00:40:42,973 --> 00:40:46,853
Speaker 12: me that in the middle of this tour, or early

814
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Speaker 12: on in the tour with Anita Clark. I suddenly felt

815
00:40:49,893 --> 00:40:52,333
Speaker 12: this would be great, this is really special. I we

816
00:40:52,373 --> 00:40:55,013
Speaker 12: should be recording this. And luckily Bob our sound man

817
00:40:55,093 --> 00:40:58,293
Speaker 12: had already been had already started recording everything, and we

818
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Speaker 12: had all these cool venues to choose between, each with

819
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Speaker 12: a different sort of feeling. We did a big house

820
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Speaker 12: concert in Carterton, and we did Loons in Littleton a

821
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Speaker 12: couple of times, and and the Q Theater in Auckland,

822
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Speaker 12: so there's a lot to choose from, and they all

823
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Speaker 12: had kind of different audience feel I think I think

824
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Speaker 12: we realized quite early on that it was a sort

825
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Speaker 12: of an extraordinary event.

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Speaker 3: I don't know why, but yeah, and you wanted to

827
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Speaker 3: capture it, capture it for posterity's sake.

828
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Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, or for for our sake in a way.

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Speaker 12: I mean posterity, your posterity is are fairly slippery beasts,

830
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Speaker 12: So you got no idea what it's going to be

831
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Speaker 12: interested in. Certainly, Certainly, as we listened to the stuff

832
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Speaker 12: more and more, we kind of realized that we were

833
00:41:46,933 --> 00:41:49,733
Speaker 12: as we played, we were learning about the songs. And

834
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Speaker 12: that's a bizarre thing for me to say, because I've

835
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Speaker 12: been playing the songs for so long and patiently explaining

836
00:41:55,733 --> 00:41:58,773
Speaker 12: to them, to anybody who listened for so long, that

837
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Speaker 12: you wouldn't think that I would need to learn about them.

838
00:42:01,213 --> 00:42:02,853
Speaker 9: But yeah, we learned a lot.

839
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Speaker 12: I mean, it is a collaborator that really pushes me hard,

840
00:42:06,253 --> 00:42:08,973
Speaker 12: and every night it's quite different.

841
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Speaker 9: So yeah, it was. It was a great tool.

842
00:42:11,533 --> 00:42:13,453
Speaker 3: And so when you say you learn about the songs,

843
00:42:13,453 --> 00:42:14,293
Speaker 3: what do you mean by that?

844
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Speaker 9: Well, I guess as I get older.

845
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Speaker 12: I mean, I I start off with a lot of

846
00:42:22,533 --> 00:42:26,373
Speaker 12: songwriter to start off with a fragment of melody and

847
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Speaker 12: then they hum, they play the guitar and they hum

848
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Speaker 12: over it and say that outcomes, you know, going to

849
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Speaker 12: love your baby all night long or whatever, And I'm

850
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Speaker 12: not really like that.

851
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Speaker 9: I always sort of.

852
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Speaker 12: Think about an idea or a topic or some sort

853
00:42:43,253 --> 00:42:45,613
Speaker 12: of subject matter that I want to get into, and

854
00:42:45,693 --> 00:42:48,813
Speaker 12: I gradually write around that for days and days and

855
00:42:48,893 --> 00:42:51,733
Speaker 12: weeks and months before I let myself pick up the guitar,

856
00:42:51,973 --> 00:42:54,413
Speaker 12: Because picking up the guitar is kind of a that's

857
00:42:54,453 --> 00:42:58,133
Speaker 12: a door through which I can't return, you know, because

858
00:42:58,173 --> 00:42:59,413
Speaker 12: it's going to be a song, going to be a

859
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Speaker 12: song quite soon.

860
00:43:00,093 --> 00:43:01,133
Speaker 9: As soon as I pick up the guitar.

861
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Speaker 12: And but you'd think that would that would end up

862
00:43:06,373 --> 00:43:09,173
Speaker 12: with a bunch of songs that are whose meaning is

863
00:43:09,253 --> 00:43:13,133
Speaker 12: quite tidy. But it's the opposite with me. I mean, yeah,

864
00:43:13,133 --> 00:43:15,533
Speaker 12: I've got some songs that it's pretty obvious what they're about.

865
00:43:15,813 --> 00:43:17,173
Speaker 12: But I've got a bunch of other songs that are

866
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Speaker 12: probably the ones I prefer, which I don't really know

867
00:43:21,453 --> 00:43:23,413
Speaker 12: what they're about, and every time I perform them, I

868
00:43:23,453 --> 00:43:26,653
Speaker 12: sort of think, oh, that's what it's about. Or better,

869
00:43:26,733 --> 00:43:29,973
Speaker 12: even somebody comes up to me from the audience tells

870
00:43:30,013 --> 00:43:30,893
Speaker 12: me what the song's about.

871
00:43:31,293 --> 00:43:33,413
Speaker 3: That's amazing. So and can you give us an example

872
00:43:33,493 --> 00:43:36,293
Speaker 3: is the one that springs to mind where someone has

873
00:43:36,333 --> 00:43:40,573
Speaker 3: helped you kind of interpret your own art in that way.

874
00:43:42,573 --> 00:43:47,093
Speaker 12: Well, I guess White Valiant's a bit like that. It's

875
00:43:47,133 --> 00:43:51,213
Speaker 12: not so much interpreting, it's about locating it. I've had

876
00:43:51,213 --> 00:43:52,453
Speaker 12: a lot of people come up to me and say,

877
00:43:52,493 --> 00:43:55,413
Speaker 12: I know exactly the cliffs that you're talking about, and

878
00:43:55,653 --> 00:43:58,213
Speaker 12: the quarry that you're talking about, and the road.

879
00:43:58,373 --> 00:44:02,093
Speaker 9: You know, it'll be somewhere near where they grew up.

880
00:44:02,253 --> 00:44:05,333
Speaker 12: You know, it'll be some piece of landscape that's part

881
00:44:05,413 --> 00:44:10,813
Speaker 12: of their internal landscape, I guess, and in a way

882
00:44:11,213 --> 00:44:16,253
Speaker 12: that kind of underlines effect that the song, you know,

883
00:44:16,333 --> 00:44:18,053
Speaker 12: the song's kind of a vessel that people can pour

884
00:44:18,613 --> 00:44:19,613
Speaker 12: different ideas into.

885
00:44:20,093 --> 00:44:24,133
Speaker 9: If that's not too pompously, No, no, no, not at all.

886
00:44:24,933 --> 00:44:26,053
Speaker 3: It is interesting like that.

887
00:44:26,413 --> 00:44:26,653
Speaker 16: Really.

888
00:44:27,533 --> 00:44:32,173
Speaker 3: No, hey, look at this end of things, guilty as charge,

889
00:44:32,213 --> 00:44:34,413
Speaker 3: you know, so don't worry. This is a no judge.

890
00:44:36,253 --> 00:44:37,053
Speaker 9: We can speak freely.

891
00:44:37,213 --> 00:44:37,453
Speaker 17: Yeah.

892
00:44:38,053 --> 00:44:40,013
Speaker 3: You know, usually when I think about a live album

893
00:44:40,133 --> 00:44:43,013
Speaker 3: and you touched on this a moment ago, you think

894
00:44:43,093 --> 00:44:48,413
Speaker 3: about an album being recorded in one place. But one

895
00:44:48,493 --> 00:44:51,133
Speaker 3: thing that distinguishes this record is that actually you've been

896
00:44:51,213 --> 00:44:56,613
Speaker 3: in these quite quite unique spaces as you to would

897
00:44:56,613 --> 00:44:58,333
Speaker 3: take it to the bridge. So talk to me about

898
00:44:58,333 --> 00:45:00,693
Speaker 3: the different kind of environments you were in and the

899
00:45:00,773 --> 00:45:03,813
Speaker 3: ways in which that may be changed the direction of

900
00:45:03,893 --> 00:45:07,293
Speaker 3: your performances and you know, influenced you you and Anita.

901
00:45:09,133 --> 00:45:14,533
Speaker 12: Yeah, well, I think I think touring, especially when you're

902
00:45:15,093 --> 00:45:17,413
Speaker 12: you know, not doing main centers and you're touring all

903
00:45:17,493 --> 00:45:19,413
Speaker 12: over the country to quite far flying places.

904
00:45:19,933 --> 00:45:22,773
Speaker 9: It reminds reminds me anyway of.

905
00:45:24,853 --> 00:45:30,173
Speaker 12: How traveling through the country is kind of like filling

906
00:45:30,253 --> 00:45:33,733
Speaker 12: up a reservoir or like breathing in or something, and

907
00:45:33,933 --> 00:45:37,613
Speaker 12: then performing is like breathing out, if that makes any sense.

908
00:45:37,813 --> 00:45:39,693
Speaker 9: So I'm seeing all these things.

909
00:45:39,733 --> 00:45:42,373
Speaker 12: I'm seeing the trees, I'm seeing people as we go past,

910
00:45:42,453 --> 00:45:46,413
Speaker 12: I'm stopping in cafes and talking to people, and all

911
00:45:46,493 --> 00:45:49,773
Speaker 12: of that is all that A is giving me stuff

912
00:45:49,813 --> 00:45:50,373
Speaker 12: to write about.

913
00:45:52,173 --> 00:45:54,333
Speaker 9: Janet Frame used to say this cool thing.

914
00:45:54,493 --> 00:45:57,253
Speaker 12: She used to say that she would never take a cab,

915
00:45:57,493 --> 00:45:59,333
Speaker 12: never take a taxi to an interview or she had

916
00:45:59,333 --> 00:46:02,813
Speaker 12: to do a book tour or anything, because because nothing

917
00:46:02,853 --> 00:46:05,053
Speaker 12: would be sticking to her as she got out of

918
00:46:05,093 --> 00:46:08,653
Speaker 12: the taxi, she'd be too slippery, you know, Whereas if

919
00:46:08,693 --> 00:46:11,493
Speaker 12: she takes a bus or something, then she's more like

920
00:46:11,573 --> 00:46:16,253
Speaker 12: a you know, like a like a like a pylon

921
00:46:16,373 --> 00:46:19,333
Speaker 12: in the in the in the sea that's covered with barnacles.

922
00:46:19,853 --> 00:46:22,293
Speaker 12: And that's where the writing comes from. I love that,

923
00:46:22,653 --> 00:46:26,373
Speaker 12: and it's kind of true because when you when I'm

924
00:46:27,013 --> 00:46:30,213
Speaker 12: driving around, these impressions come and they sick to me

925
00:46:30,253 --> 00:46:33,213
Speaker 12: and they might turn into songs, or when I get

926
00:46:33,253 --> 00:46:36,933
Speaker 12: to where wherever we're going, they might turn into a

927
00:46:37,013 --> 00:46:40,453
Speaker 12: better way to sing a particular song, or a different

928
00:46:40,533 --> 00:46:42,413
Speaker 12: depth to a character that I'm trying to inhabit in

929
00:46:42,453 --> 00:46:44,813
Speaker 12: a particular song, so it is like like breathing and

930
00:46:44,853 --> 00:46:47,693
Speaker 12: then breathing out. And this tour, because we went to

931
00:46:47,773 --> 00:46:51,613
Speaker 12: lots of different places, was very much like that. You

932
00:46:51,693 --> 00:46:56,133
Speaker 12: know places is like Glean Hawkie, like right at the

933
00:46:56,253 --> 00:47:01,453
Speaker 12: far end of the of the lake, like yeah, and

934
00:47:02,133 --> 00:47:05,213
Speaker 12: all the yeah, all the way to you know to

935
00:47:05,373 --> 00:47:06,333
Speaker 12: we did away here.

936
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Speaker 9: Show and.

937
00:47:10,573 --> 00:47:12,333
Speaker 12: Later the tour was kind of broken up because we

938
00:47:12,373 --> 00:47:13,733
Speaker 12: got sick and we had to sort of stop the

939
00:47:13,813 --> 00:47:15,453
Speaker 12: tour and then we had to get back into it

940
00:47:15,493 --> 00:47:17,533
Speaker 12: about a month later, but went all the way. I

941
00:47:17,533 --> 00:47:21,213
Speaker 12: think the furthest north was Funda and then I don't know,

942
00:47:21,293 --> 00:47:23,333
Speaker 12: further south, might have been Glen Orky, not sure.

943
00:47:23,613 --> 00:47:27,013
Speaker 3: Yeah, do you find too that there's another dimension because

944
00:47:27,093 --> 00:47:31,453
Speaker 3: you split your time between between Canada and New Zealand. Now,

945
00:47:31,533 --> 00:47:33,813
Speaker 3: do you find that there's an extra dimension as you

946
00:47:33,893 --> 00:47:36,893
Speaker 3: travel about New Zealand and that you kind of have

947
00:47:37,093 --> 00:47:41,093
Speaker 3: this element of separation some of the time and then

948
00:47:41,133 --> 00:47:43,613
Speaker 3: as you know, you're kind of relearning about these spaces

949
00:47:43,693 --> 00:47:46,293
Speaker 3: and seeing seeing the country change.

950
00:47:49,813 --> 00:47:53,853
Speaker 12: Yeah, a little bit. I Mean I've always been somebody

951
00:47:53,893 --> 00:47:56,613
Speaker 12: who can't write about a place that I've just arrived at.

952
00:47:56,773 --> 00:47:59,173
Speaker 12: So in Canada, even though I've been coming here for

953
00:48:00,213 --> 00:48:05,453
Speaker 12: over a decade. Now, I don't I'm not writing about

954
00:48:05,493 --> 00:48:08,413
Speaker 12: beavers or or hockey or mounties.

955
00:48:08,973 --> 00:48:14,493
Speaker 3: Yeah, that might Happenma Glasson's Maple Syrup tribute album coming

956
00:48:14,573 --> 00:48:15,173
Speaker 3: up so well.

957
00:48:15,093 --> 00:48:18,613
Speaker 12: Little Bit, Yeah, we could sell it with little bottles

958
00:48:18,653 --> 00:48:19,333
Speaker 12: of maple syrup.

959
00:48:21,053 --> 00:48:22,373
Speaker 9: I yeah, I tend to.

960
00:48:22,493 --> 00:48:26,413
Speaker 12: And I think probably what happens is that images from home,

961
00:48:26,533 --> 00:48:30,733
Speaker 12: images from alter or kind of clarify as I'm over

962
00:48:30,813 --> 00:48:35,293
Speaker 12: here in Canada and i'm And it certainly happened to

963
00:48:35,333 --> 00:48:37,093
Speaker 12: me when I was living in England with the Mutton Birds,

964
00:48:37,213 --> 00:48:40,733
Speaker 12: that a lot of songs arrived that were more or

965
00:48:40,813 --> 00:48:44,253
Speaker 12: less let us home, led us home to people, and

966
00:48:44,373 --> 00:48:47,093
Speaker 12: it was very inco deeply inconvenient for us because I

967
00:48:47,213 --> 00:48:54,173
Speaker 12: was trying to write like shiny songs and what came

968
00:48:54,213 --> 00:48:56,013
Speaker 12: out for the four years we were there, which were

969
00:48:56,053 --> 00:48:59,893
Speaker 12: generally more involved let us let us to friends and relatives. Yeah,

970
00:49:00,093 --> 00:49:03,293
Speaker 12: ye's certainly what's happening now. And I'm finding Yeah, I'm

971
00:49:03,293 --> 00:49:04,373
Speaker 12: finding that.

972
00:49:08,293 --> 00:49:09,333
Speaker 9: I guess. I guess I'm not.

973
00:49:09,693 --> 00:49:11,533
Speaker 12: I'm not as I'm driving around the country, so as

974
00:49:11,533 --> 00:49:13,893
Speaker 12: we're heading to this or that venue, I'm not sort

975
00:49:13,933 --> 00:49:16,533
Speaker 12: of that engaged with what's changed.

976
00:49:16,813 --> 00:49:18,973
Speaker 9: I'm engaged with where I've changed.

977
00:49:20,533 --> 00:49:25,213
Speaker 12: And and you know how how you know that particular

978
00:49:25,293 --> 00:49:27,533
Speaker 12: road looked when I was twenty and when I was

979
00:49:27,573 --> 00:49:30,613
Speaker 12: thirty driving up on the way to that gig, and

980
00:49:30,813 --> 00:49:32,613
Speaker 12: how how I'm a different person now.

981
00:49:33,013 --> 00:49:35,213
Speaker 3: You're listening to Jack Taime on News Talks ed V.

982
00:49:35,653 --> 00:49:39,373
Speaker 3: I'm speaking to Don McGlashan about his new live album,

983
00:49:39,493 --> 00:49:43,813
Speaker 3: Take It to the Bridge. You recently came back and

984
00:49:43,853 --> 00:49:46,413
Speaker 3: performed with the christ Symphony Orchestra, and I know that

985
00:49:46,533 --> 00:49:49,133
Speaker 3: you've performed with orchestras over the years. I think it

986
00:49:49,213 --> 00:49:52,173
Speaker 3: was that back when it was the Auckland Sinfonia now

987
00:49:52,253 --> 00:49:55,573
Speaker 3: the Philharmonic Orchestra in Auckland, you had plenty of experience

988
00:49:55,653 --> 00:49:55,893
Speaker 3: with them.

989
00:49:56,253 --> 00:49:56,653
Speaker 1: What is that?

990
00:49:56,893 --> 00:49:59,413
Speaker 3: What is that like for you being on stage and

991
00:49:59,533 --> 00:50:02,333
Speaker 3: performing with an orchestra and having that kind of that

992
00:50:02,493 --> 00:50:03,133
Speaker 3: lush sound.

993
00:50:05,333 --> 00:50:07,453
Speaker 9: I was fantastic. The thrill.

994
00:50:07,693 --> 00:50:12,013
Speaker 12: Part of the thrill was was working over a period

995
00:50:12,053 --> 00:50:15,133
Speaker 12: of months, maybe about eight months with Alex Vanden Brook,

996
00:50:15,133 --> 00:50:20,293
Speaker 12: who's the the CSO arranger or was working on that

997
00:50:20,373 --> 00:50:24,333
Speaker 12: project anyway, and he, he and I just battered ideas

998
00:50:24,373 --> 00:50:25,693
Speaker 12: backwards and forwards.

999
00:50:26,533 --> 00:50:28,893
Speaker 9: You know, how should we approach a thing well made?

1000
00:50:29,653 --> 00:50:31,933
Speaker 12: Is it is it like a big, a big arrangement

1001
00:50:31,973 --> 00:50:34,173
Speaker 12: that that gets really dramatic in the middle and then

1002
00:50:34,213 --> 00:50:37,653
Speaker 12: tapes away, or is it something more quiet and threatening?

1003
00:50:37,693 --> 00:50:41,893
Speaker 12: All the way through all these sorts of discussions, it

1004
00:50:41,973 --> 00:50:45,013
Speaker 12: was it was not at all. I think sometimes when

1005
00:50:45,133 --> 00:50:49,173
Speaker 12: when an orchestra gets sort of appended to a songwriter,

1006
00:50:49,973 --> 00:50:52,493
Speaker 12: it's more like the arrangers doing there. But you turn up,

1007
00:50:52,493 --> 00:50:54,333
Speaker 12: You've got three days to rehearse or two days to rehearse,

1008
00:50:54,533 --> 00:50:58,213
Speaker 12: and then that's it was. This was much more a

1009
00:50:58,333 --> 00:51:00,853
Speaker 12: back and forth process, and so by the time I

1010
00:51:00,893 --> 00:51:05,293
Speaker 12: got on the stage, I really knew. I knew where

1011
00:51:05,293 --> 00:51:07,933
Speaker 12: everything was going, and it was kind of like the

1012
00:51:08,053 --> 00:51:12,053
Speaker 12: songs were coming to life the way I first imagined them,

1013
00:51:12,213 --> 00:51:14,173
Speaker 12: because I think when when you first imagine a song,

1014
00:51:14,213 --> 00:51:17,573
Speaker 12: it's it's kind of resplendent with all of these colors,

1015
00:51:18,133 --> 00:51:20,693
Speaker 12: and then you play with your guitar and you play

1016
00:51:20,733 --> 00:51:22,253
Speaker 12: with the band, and it goes in a different direction,

1017
00:51:22,453 --> 00:51:26,973
Speaker 12: not not worse or better, but a different direction because

1018
00:51:26,973 --> 00:51:29,933
Speaker 12: it's picked up by whoever you're collaborating with. But this

1019
00:51:30,133 --> 00:51:36,653
Speaker 12: was a chance to just just coloring the songs in

1020
00:51:37,853 --> 00:51:41,453
Speaker 12: a really cool way. And it was you know, there

1021
00:51:41,493 --> 00:51:44,413
Speaker 12: were times when I was in front of the orchestra

1022
00:51:44,453 --> 00:51:46,693
Speaker 12: and I just I just it was all I could

1023
00:51:46,693 --> 00:51:48,533
Speaker 12: do to not forget the next line because I was

1024
00:51:48,573 --> 00:51:50,573
Speaker 12: so thrilled by what the orchestra had done on the

1025
00:51:50,653 --> 00:51:51,093
Speaker 12: last line.

1026
00:51:51,333 --> 00:51:54,373
Speaker 3: Ah, that's so special. What an amazing experience.

1027
00:51:56,093 --> 00:51:56,733
Speaker 9: It was amazing.

1028
00:51:56,773 --> 00:51:58,333
Speaker 12: And it was also I mean you mentioned the API

1029
00:51:58,453 --> 00:52:02,133
Speaker 12: before as Orkhan Simphonia as it was, but it was

1030
00:52:03,013 --> 00:52:04,933
Speaker 12: it was interesting that I had that experience. But that

1031
00:52:05,053 --> 00:52:08,493
Speaker 12: experience was radically different because I was a French horn player.

1032
00:52:08,573 --> 00:52:12,093
Speaker 12: I was actually second horn in the or symphony, which

1033
00:52:12,133 --> 00:52:16,453
Speaker 12: then became the APO. Yeah, for quite a while, you know,

1034
00:52:16,533 --> 00:52:18,253
Speaker 12: I think two or three years while I was sort

1035
00:52:18,293 --> 00:52:21,773
Speaker 12: of paying my way through the end of university. But

1036
00:52:22,173 --> 00:52:25,133
Speaker 12: I wasn't a very diligent French horn player and I

1037
00:52:25,173 --> 00:52:28,693
Speaker 12: didn't practice enough. And French horns there they have a

1038
00:52:28,773 --> 00:52:31,053
Speaker 12: way of punishing you when you when you think you

1039
00:52:31,613 --> 00:52:35,373
Speaker 12: think you're too smart, and like, you know, I can

1040
00:52:35,493 --> 00:52:37,973
Speaker 12: I can remember times when I just couldn't quite hit

1041
00:52:38,053 --> 00:52:39,653
Speaker 12: the note I was supposed to hit, and the orchid

1042
00:52:39,733 --> 00:52:42,653
Speaker 12: and the conductor would stop the orchestra and I still

1043
00:52:42,733 --> 00:52:49,213
Speaker 12: carry a lot of anxiety from that, and it was

1044
00:52:49,453 --> 00:52:51,253
Speaker 12: it was a kind of this working with the CSO

1045
00:52:51,413 --> 00:52:55,093
Speaker 12: was a way of exercising that because because I was

1046
00:52:55,133 --> 00:52:57,293
Speaker 12: in charge, you know, if I if I made a mistake,

1047
00:52:57,293 --> 00:52:58,933
Speaker 12: I just laughed and the orchestra would fall about. But

1048
00:52:59,013 --> 00:53:01,413
Speaker 12: it wasn't wasn't quite as life and death as it

1049
00:53:01,493 --> 00:53:02,373
Speaker 12: was when I was a French horn.

1050
00:53:02,493 --> 00:53:04,813
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, yes, you've gone from hitting the wrong note

1051
00:53:05,733 --> 00:53:08,133
Speaker 3: very nearly forgetting your lines, but now that you're the

1052
00:53:08,213 --> 00:53:09,853
Speaker 3: man in front, it doesn't matter so much.

1053
00:53:10,053 --> 00:53:10,253
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1054
00:53:10,773 --> 00:53:12,973
Speaker 3: Hey, it is such a pleasure to speak. Thank you

1055
00:53:13,093 --> 00:53:15,653
Speaker 3: so much, and we're so glad that you did make

1056
00:53:15,733 --> 00:53:19,173
Speaker 3: that decision to record Take It to the Bridge. Congratulations Tom,

1057
00:53:19,853 --> 00:53:23,253
Speaker 3: Thanks Jack. That is Don mcglashon his new live album

1058
00:53:23,413 --> 00:53:25,253
Speaker 3: is Take It to the Bridge, and all the details

1059
00:53:25,293 --> 00:53:27,533
Speaker 3: are of course, on the News Talks, he'd be website

1060
00:53:28,133 --> 00:53:30,733
Speaker 3: before eleven o'clock. On News Talks, he'd be Our master

1061
00:53:30,853 --> 00:53:33,613
Speaker 3: sommelier is here with his whine of the week and

1062
00:53:33,733 --> 00:53:36,293
Speaker 3: it's a little bit of a surprise this week, so

1063
00:53:36,373 --> 00:53:39,453
Speaker 3: he'll be here very shortly. Our textbird is as well

1064
00:53:39,533 --> 00:53:42,693
Speaker 3: with all the news from Google's big announcement this week.

1065
00:53:42,973 --> 00:53:46,373
Speaker 3: Their fancy new phones and the kind of various foldables

1066
00:53:46,413 --> 00:53:49,053
Speaker 3: and bits of technology. But it wasn't so much the

1067
00:53:49,173 --> 00:53:51,653
Speaker 3: tech that had people talking, rather the way they were

1068
00:53:51,733 --> 00:53:53,613
Speaker 3: rolling it out. So the big names they had there

1069
00:53:53,653 --> 00:53:56,453
Speaker 3: and the kind of big stage production they put together

1070
00:53:56,613 --> 00:53:59,453
Speaker 3: was a little bit off. So he will explain why

1071
00:53:59,613 --> 00:54:01,373
Speaker 3: very shortly. Next up, if you looking for something good

1072
00:54:01,373 --> 00:54:04,973
Speaker 3: to watch this weekend, we have your screen time picks

1073
00:54:05,053 --> 00:54:07,933
Speaker 3: for this weekend. Two past ten. You're with Jack Dame

1074
00:54:07,973 --> 00:54:10,533
Speaker 3: on News Dogs EDBSNN.

1075
00:54:10,653 --> 00:54:14,213
Speaker 2: Your weekend off the right way. Saturday Morning with Jack

1076
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Speaker 2: Dame News Dogs B.

1077
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Speaker 3: Twenty five Busken on Newsborg's EDB. Chris Schultz is in

1078
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Speaker 3: for screen time this week. He's got three shows to

1079
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Speaker 3: recommend for watching or streaming at home. Good morning, sir

1080
00:54:24,173 --> 00:54:27,933
Speaker 3: and I Live and Breathe. Great to see you and studio. Okay,

1081
00:54:28,013 --> 00:54:32,293
Speaker 3: so we'll start off with the first fiction piece this morning.

1082
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Speaker 3: So this is streaming on Disney Plus tell Us about

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Speaker 3: Alien Earth, where.

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Speaker 18: Everyone knows the Alien franchise. If you're a fan of

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Speaker 18: this series, you're very protective of it. Fans are very

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00:54:44,133 --> 00:54:47,373
Speaker 18: vocal if the director gets it wrong. It's always been

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Speaker 18: a movie series and a few video games, but the

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Speaker 18: ones everyone harks back to other Ridley Scott original and

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Speaker 18: the James Cameron sequel, the more action focused sequel. They're

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Speaker 18: the basis for this series. This is a TV show

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00:55:02,253 --> 00:55:08,013
Speaker 18: based on those movies. It's eight parts and look, everyone

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00:55:08,173 --> 00:55:09,933
Speaker 18: was so nervous about how this was going to go

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00:55:10,093 --> 00:55:13,453
Speaker 18: because these often get watered down. They they just they

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Speaker 18: don't look right, they don't feel right.

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Speaker 9: Good news. They nail it.

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Speaker 18: This is incredible. This is my show for the year.

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Speaker 18: Three episodes in.

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Speaker 3: Oh my gosh.

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Speaker 18: They have just gone to this extreme. So they've got

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Speaker 18: characters in here that just look amazing. They've they've introduced

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Speaker 18: new aliens, so it's not just that big metallic hulking anymore.

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Speaker 18: There's there's all kinds of other aliens. They've done it

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Speaker 18: in a really smart way. It's about a research vessel

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Speaker 18: that has crash landed on Earth skilled most of the

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Speaker 18: people except for one synthetic droid who's trying to protect

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Speaker 18: these aliens. And so the research the rescue crews going

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Speaker 18: in and they're encountering this new array of aliens. So

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Speaker 18: it's a fascinating setup. There's all kinds of other stuff

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Speaker 18: going on. You know, god like creators with God complexes.

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Speaker 18: This Mai stuff in their two it's it's riveting that

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Speaker 18: they've just got. It's dark, it's weird. It's almost like

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Speaker 18: David Lynchean. It's so strange. I don't know how they

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Speaker 18: were actually allowed to get away with it.

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Speaker 3: But that's great, amazing, Yeah, fantastic. I think we're all

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Speaker 3: expecting you to say. And they've kind of sold out here,

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Speaker 3: but sounds superb. Okay, So that's Alien Earth. That's on

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Speaker 3: Disney Plus on Netflix. A keenly anticipated documentary fit for TV,

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00:56:28,013 --> 00:56:29,773
Speaker 3: The Reality of the Biggest Loser.

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Speaker 9: Huge documentary.

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Speaker 18: It's number one on the New Zealand Netflix series right now,

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00:56:34,573 --> 00:56:36,693
Speaker 18: everyone's watching us, everyone's talking about it. I had so

1122
00:56:36,813 --> 00:56:40,493
Speaker 18: many conversations about it. For very good reason. This was

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Speaker 18: a really problematic reality show. This started in two thousand

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00:56:44,093 --> 00:56:47,253
Speaker 18: and four when reality TV was still in those early stages,

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Speaker 18: and the provisors obvious they got overweight people and tried

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Speaker 18: to make them lose as much weight as possible over

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Speaker 18: the course of a season. And so this documentary is

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Speaker 18: going back and just putting that show back in our minds.

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Speaker 18: And it's really quite awkward and fronting watching some of

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Speaker 18: the stuff they put these contestants through. They yelled so

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Speaker 18: much abuse at them. They would take them to these

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Speaker 18: gems and they had these two trainers and they would

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Speaker 18: literally just get in their faces and force them to

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00:57:19,253 --> 00:57:21,813
Speaker 18: run on these treadmills until they were throwing up. One

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Speaker 18: of them claims she died on a run outside on

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Speaker 18: a beach for nine minutes or something. Yeah, so they're

1137
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Speaker 18: talking to the old contestants, they're asking them what they

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Speaker 18: went through on the show, and it's just led to

1139
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Speaker 18: all kinds of things. There are allegations right now of

1140
00:57:38,493 --> 00:57:43,653
Speaker 18: illegal drugs being used to push weight loss caffeine pills.

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Speaker 18: Some people say that it ruined their metabolisms and they've

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Speaker 18: never been able to keep that weight off.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, this is the thing. A lot of

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Speaker 3: a lot of those people who competed in those shows

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Speaker 3: then put on the weight. I mean, I used to

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Speaker 3: watch The Biggest Loser. It's pretty crazy to think they

1147
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Speaker 3: made that TV show. Remember how in the first episode

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00:58:02,413 --> 00:58:04,933
Speaker 3: that introduced the contestants, and then they would have this

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Speaker 3: like buffet that this huge table laid out kind of

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Speaker 3: like a Roman orgy full of junk food and cakes

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Speaker 3: and lollies and chocolate and stuff, and they were sort

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Speaker 3: of encouraged to These people were sort of encouraged to

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Speaker 3: go in and stuff their faces as much as possible.

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Speaker 3: And then there were sort of filmed like it was really,

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Speaker 3: that's not a.

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Speaker 18: Normal situation any of us encounter in our days. There's

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Speaker 18: another scene where they make them that they do that,

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Speaker 18: they make them build like towers using only their mouths.

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Speaker 18: They can't use their hands. They've got to pick up doughnuts,

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Speaker 18: you know, and jam rolls and lollies and build these towers.

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Speaker 3: And you know it was okay, like, no, we didn't

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Speaker 3: really question it at the time.

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Speaker 18: Well I did, yeah, but we are sort of in

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Speaker 18: this moment where we are looking back and reassessing this stuff. Yeah,

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Speaker 18: how we talked about bodies, how the paparazzi treated celebrities,

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Speaker 18: you know, what happened to Princess Diana and David Beckham.

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Speaker 18: And it's actually quite interesting, I think, to sort of

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Speaker 18: look back and reassess with our new I don't know, knowledge, yeah, wisdom,

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Speaker 18: and well.

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Speaker 3: It's just just I mean, what's acceptable changes over time,

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00:59:12,173 --> 00:59:14,573
Speaker 3: right in a society, it's always changing. So yeah, I

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Speaker 3: mean I can imagine that watching this, you look back

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Speaker 3: at it and you're like, wow, those those the producers

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Speaker 3: were you know, maybe a moral or whatever else. But

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Speaker 3: also it's kind of telling you a lot about us

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Speaker 3: as an audience at the time as well. You really

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Speaker 3: sort of forced to reflect on your own appetite for

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Speaker 3: want of a better word. So that's fit for TV,

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Speaker 3: The Reality of the Biggest Loser. I'm looking forward to

1180
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Speaker 3: seeing that one also on Netflix. Katrina, Come Hell or

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Speaker 3: High Water.

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Speaker 18: Disney Actually this was Disney five part series on Hurricane Katrina. Ye,

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Speaker 18: it's almost twenty years to the day. Yeah, I think

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Speaker 18: it was August twenty five when the first signs of

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Speaker 18: the storm started rolling in. You know that everyone knows

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Speaker 18: what Hurricane Katrina as. It was this Category five storm

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Speaker 18: that built over the Golf of Mexico and then just

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Speaker 18: basically ran straight through New Orleans. This is looking back,

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Speaker 18: it's interviewing.

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Speaker 8: You know this thing.

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Speaker 18: You watch a lot of documentaries and you know when

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Speaker 18: you had a good one, right, You can tell when

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Speaker 18: it's a director who really cares and he's gotten everyone

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Speaker 18: to talk and it's there to tell a really gripping story.

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Speaker 18: And right from the start of this you can tell

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Speaker 18: that they're doing this properly. They've got this guy narrating

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Speaker 18: it who's like a New Orleans resident, and he's sitting

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Speaker 18: on a stoop. He's got the dreadlocks, he's got the accent.

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Speaker 18: He's almost like the spiritual guide for you through the show,

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Speaker 18: because this is horrifying. Obviously, the footage, it's like watching

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Speaker 18: nine to eleven. You know, it never loses to impact.

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Speaker 18: These hotels with windows that are just completely blown out

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Speaker 18: and the curtains are you know, in the way this

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Speaker 18: firefighters just watching their their fire station just get demolished

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Speaker 18: by this hurricane. Like the footage is amazing, amazing and

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Speaker 18: harrowing at the same time. You know, we've just been

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Speaker 18: through this with cyclone Gabrielle. There'll be people in New

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Speaker 18: Zealand who can't watch this for that reason, but they've

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Speaker 18: I've just done it right that you know, the footage

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Speaker 18: and the Superdome as well, when the roof starts on

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Speaker 18: the up and the rain comes in and all of that.

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Speaker 18: So I'm only two episodes in right, absolutely riveted. It's

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Speaker 18: just so compelling, it's so well told, and they've got

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Speaker 18: everyone plase, yeah, firefighters, victims, all of it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no, it sounds amazing, sounds really compelling. That's been

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Speaker 3: of me as well. So that's Katrina Come Hell or

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Speaker 3: high Water. That's on Disney Plus. Alien Earth is also

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01:01:32,973 --> 01:01:35,573
Speaker 3: on Disney Plus and Fit for TV. The Reality of

1219
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Speaker 3: the Biggest Loser is on Netflix. Don't forget. You can

1220
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Speaker 3: find Chris Schultz on a substack Boiler Room with Chris Schultz.

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Speaker 3: Will make sure there's a link to that up on

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Speaker 3: a news talks eb website as well. Right now, it

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Speaker 3: is twenty eight to eleven.

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Speaker 1: Getting your weekends started. It's Saturday Morning with Jack Team

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Speaker 1: on news talks'b.

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Speaker 3: Bad Night, Talk to you.

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Speaker 14: Oqscried through and shoes come through much.

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Speaker 6: And I sound like oh loom.

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Speaker 3: Both two come first from the story. This is Lave.

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01:02:21,573 --> 01:02:25,213
Speaker 3: It's spelt la u f e y but pronounced lave.

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Speaker 3: I'm reliably informed. This is one of the rare times

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Speaker 3: on news STOOKSZB where I can say that I've actually

1233
01:02:30,133 --> 01:02:34,573
Speaker 3: heard the song already. She's a product of the times

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Speaker 3: in the way that she's kind of forged her path

1235
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Speaker 3: in the music industry. So critical masses and pop music

1236
01:02:39,893 --> 01:02:42,813
Speaker 3: can develop from unexpected places in the world of TikTok

1237
01:02:42,853 --> 01:02:46,253
Speaker 3: and YouTube, and she has emerged as a bedroom indie

1238
01:02:46,333 --> 01:02:52,093
Speaker 3: pop creator on TikTok during the pandemic influx. She was

1239
01:02:52,133 --> 01:02:55,733
Speaker 3: quickly spotted for her knack for marrying twenty first century

1240
01:02:55,853 --> 01:02:59,053
Speaker 3: lyrical stories with arrangements and melodies that might be more

1241
01:02:59,093 --> 01:03:02,093
Speaker 3: befitting of previous centuries. So it's kind of like kind

1242
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Speaker 3: of like show tunes or like, you know, like musical

1243
01:03:06,493 --> 01:03:09,333
Speaker 3: music combined with a little bit of pope. She's been

1244
01:03:09,373 --> 01:03:13,373
Speaker 3: heralded as gen Z's Icelandic Chinese singer songwriter. She had

1245
01:03:13,453 --> 01:03:15,933
Speaker 3: formal training and a whole host of classical instruments and

1246
01:03:16,053 --> 01:03:19,613
Speaker 3: yet still Oozer's pop and mainstream appeal. She won a

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01:03:19,653 --> 01:03:23,973
Speaker 3: Grammy for Best Traditional Pop Vocal Album at the last Grammys,

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Speaker 3: and she's just released her third record, So Lave's a

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01:03:28,493 --> 01:03:32,133
Speaker 3: matter of Time is the name of the record. Estelle Clifford,

1250
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Speaker 3: our music reviewer, is going to join us before midday today.

1251
01:03:34,653 --> 01:03:36,533
Speaker 3: We'll play a little bit more and you can have

1252
01:03:36,653 --> 01:03:38,453
Speaker 3: a listen for yourself. But yeah, it's interesting.

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Speaker 9: I like it.

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01:03:39,133 --> 01:03:41,653
Speaker 3: It's kind of I put it on in the background

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01:03:41,733 --> 01:03:44,133
Speaker 3: sometimes if we've got someone coming over and I want

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01:03:44,173 --> 01:03:46,333
Speaker 3: to sound classy. You know, I want someone to be like,

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01:03:46,413 --> 01:03:48,933
Speaker 3: oh yeah, nice, it's kind of timeless. Sound there you

1258
01:03:49,053 --> 01:03:51,253
Speaker 3: got there. I'm like, yeah, you know about that. Lave

1259
01:03:51,693 --> 01:03:53,493
Speaker 3: is her name. So looking forward to playing some of

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Speaker 3: that very shortly. Our textbird is in in a couple

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Speaker 3: of minutes. It's twenty thirty to eleven on newstalks.

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Speaker 2: He'd be putting the tough questions to the newspeakers, some

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Speaker 2: mic asking breakfast.

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Speaker 9: It's a wonderful world of the Central Bank in their

1265
01:04:04,733 --> 01:04:07,413
Speaker 9: view of where we're asked. Christian Harksby, Reserve Bank Governor's

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Speaker 9: back with.

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Speaker 18: Us, and it's really been the economy stalling over this

1268
01:04:10,293 --> 01:04:13,733
Speaker 18: Q two that's revised down, and that's what we're responding to.

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Speaker 8: The Q two.

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Speaker 9: A lot of people saw it coming and were yelling

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Speaker 9: and you didn't. How come you didn't see it?

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Speaker 4: Well, we saw some of that come through in the

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Speaker 4: early phase and we indicated that there was some signs

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Speaker 4: the essence.

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Speaker 7: Then there's been even more signed till.

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Speaker 4: We've got more confidence that we can lower rates and

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Speaker 4: we can lower them very quick.

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Speaker 6: Great here, but you should have done that already.

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Speaker 4: We just looked forward from where we are is all

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Speaker 4: we can do. We played a board in front of us.

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Speaker 10: Back Monday from six am, the Mike Husking Breakfast with

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Speaker 10: Maylee's Real Estate News Talk ZB.

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Speaker 3: Well, it was kind of like a talk show crossed

1284
01:04:44,653 --> 01:04:46,893
Speaker 3: with the shopping Channel. It was all a bit weird

1285
01:04:46,973 --> 01:04:50,213
Speaker 3: Google announcing its big new products. They had Jimmy Fallon,

1286
01:04:50,453 --> 01:04:52,613
Speaker 3: the late night host from the US running the show.

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Speaker 3: They had some big names, the likes of the Jonas Brothers,

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01:04:56,213 --> 01:04:59,453
Speaker 3: Stephen Curry, the NBA star, and watching all of the

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Speaker 3: products get announced was our texpert, Paul Stenhouse. Paul, it

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Speaker 3: was a bit of a weird kind of launch.

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Speaker 10: Wasn't it.

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Speaker 9: Yeah.

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Speaker 14: I feel like maybe the time is up for these

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01:05:08,613 --> 01:05:11,173
Speaker 14: types of things, you know, do we really need, Like

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01:05:11,693 --> 01:05:15,533
Speaker 14: especially when you think about pre COVID, Apple used to

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01:05:15,573 --> 01:05:17,733
Speaker 14: have an auditorium. It was like this whole big thing.

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01:05:17,853 --> 01:05:20,453
Speaker 14: Google often used to have their big conferences as kind

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01:05:20,493 --> 01:05:24,693
Speaker 14: of festivals outside and then COVID happened and it all

1299
01:05:24,773 --> 01:05:27,333
Speaker 14: kind of went pre recorded and this was just like

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01:05:27,413 --> 01:05:28,733
Speaker 14: it had a studio audience.

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01:05:28,853 --> 01:05:32,653
Speaker 3: And I think too that the technology isn't like it's

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01:05:32,773 --> 01:05:36,453
Speaker 3: massage different. Yeah, yeah, it's kind of just like little iteration.

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01:05:37,373 --> 01:05:37,573
Speaker 8: Yeah.

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01:05:37,653 --> 01:05:40,533
Speaker 14: Yeah, you know when you think of the first iPad

1305
01:05:40,693 --> 01:05:42,653
Speaker 14: or iPhone. It's like, let's explain what it can do

1306
01:05:42,733 --> 01:05:44,773
Speaker 14: and actually show you when people were wild and yes,

1307
01:05:45,053 --> 01:05:47,773
Speaker 14: hearing the crowd was something awesome. It's like we've got

1308
01:05:47,853 --> 01:05:51,133
Speaker 14: another megapixel added to the camera, like do your clap

1309
01:05:51,373 --> 01:05:54,493
Speaker 14: you're not, I don't know, but look, AI was everywhere

1310
01:05:54,493 --> 01:06:00,013
Speaker 14: at this big Google thing. Gemini is Google's AI model,

1311
01:06:00,493 --> 01:06:03,453
Speaker 14: and Gemini Live is going to when you use the

1312
01:06:03,533 --> 01:06:05,733
Speaker 14: audio feature, when you talk to it, it will now

1313
01:06:05,773 --> 01:06:08,813
Speaker 14: be able to if you're excited or concerned. Hopefully it

1314
01:06:08,853 --> 01:06:11,573
Speaker 14: also knows some things about sarcasm too, which will maybe

1315
01:06:11,613 --> 01:06:13,813
Speaker 14: give it some more context when it's trying to give

1316
01:06:13,813 --> 01:06:18,413
Speaker 14: you a response. The new pixel phone Jack, the camera app,

1317
01:06:18,613 --> 01:06:21,493
Speaker 14: is going to have a photo coach built in to

1318
01:06:21,613 --> 01:06:24,253
Speaker 14: help you with composition. People in my life who I

1319
01:06:24,293 --> 01:06:29,373
Speaker 14: think could probably use that tool. And that's really still

1320
01:06:29,413 --> 01:06:32,453
Speaker 14: trying to make all of these AI magic suggestions and

1321
01:06:32,533 --> 01:06:35,133
Speaker 14: things more contextual. They don't want you having to hunt

1322
01:06:35,493 --> 01:06:38,933
Speaker 14: and go searching like searching old. Right, So if you're

1323
01:06:38,973 --> 01:06:41,013
Speaker 14: at the airport, can it pull up your boarding pass

1324
01:06:41,053 --> 01:06:43,213
Speaker 14: on your lock screen? If you're in the car and

1325
01:06:43,293 --> 01:06:45,253
Speaker 14: it thinks you're headed to your next appointment, can it

1326
01:06:45,293 --> 01:06:48,893
Speaker 14: give you the directions automatically? These kinds of things. But

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01:06:49,053 --> 01:06:51,373
Speaker 14: I just need to say, if you haven't seen the

1328
01:06:51,573 --> 01:06:56,173
Speaker 14: Google pixel fold, you've got to see this phone, Like Apple,

1329
01:06:56,253 --> 01:06:56,893
Speaker 14: what are you doing?

1330
01:06:57,133 --> 01:06:57,173
Speaker 10: Like?

1331
01:06:57,333 --> 01:06:57,853
Speaker 3: Where are you?

1332
01:06:58,013 --> 01:06:58,933
Speaker 7: What plan do you want?

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01:06:59,173 --> 01:07:01,693
Speaker 14: This phone is like an iPhone with a screen on

1334
01:07:01,733 --> 01:07:04,133
Speaker 14: the front and then you can literally open it like

1335
01:07:04,213 --> 01:07:07,653
Speaker 14: a book and inside is another screen. It's almost a

1336
01:07:07,733 --> 01:07:11,333
Speaker 14: big square. It's cool, and my gosh, it's expensive. Jacket's

1337
01:07:11,373 --> 01:07:13,693
Speaker 14: almost I think, eighteen hundred US dollars.

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01:07:14,373 --> 01:07:15,853
Speaker 9: Cool but cool.

1339
01:07:16,413 --> 01:07:18,893
Speaker 3: I mean, why do you need it? What's the point

1340
01:07:18,933 --> 01:07:20,293
Speaker 3: in having a bigger screen?

1341
01:07:21,173 --> 01:07:23,493
Speaker 14: They mean, they say, so you can, you know, watch Netflix,

1342
01:07:23,573 --> 01:07:25,413
Speaker 14: so you can have two apps open side by side

1343
01:07:25,493 --> 01:07:26,133
Speaker 14: on your screen.

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01:07:26,613 --> 01:07:27,213
Speaker 6: I will say.

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01:07:27,733 --> 01:07:30,013
Speaker 14: The funny feature is you can have it open like

1346
01:07:30,093 --> 01:07:33,133
Speaker 14: a book. Yeah, but almost like a stand. Think of

1347
01:07:33,213 --> 01:07:34,573
Speaker 14: it right the back of the rock and then the

1348
01:07:34,693 --> 01:07:36,493
Speaker 14: thing coming up and then you can use the front

1349
01:07:36,533 --> 01:07:38,493
Speaker 14: facing camera, so you can then use it almost like

1350
01:07:38,533 --> 01:07:41,773
Speaker 14: a eighteen hundred dollars for a phone that has a

1351
01:07:41,813 --> 01:07:42,533
Speaker 14: built in stand.

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01:07:42,573 --> 01:07:45,133
Speaker 3: Because I've got a friend who maybe it's just because

1353
01:07:45,133 --> 01:07:47,933
Speaker 3: I'm used to just having a normal shaped smartphone, but

1354
01:07:47,973 --> 01:07:49,493
Speaker 3: I've got a friend who's got a folding one and

1355
01:07:49,773 --> 01:07:53,013
Speaker 3: it like, I got over the novelty very quickly. After

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01:07:53,053 --> 01:07:55,853
Speaker 3: a while. It just kind of looked weird and slightly ungainly,

1357
01:07:56,053 --> 01:07:58,333
Speaker 3: you know, because because so much of the stuff that

1358
01:07:58,373 --> 01:08:01,253
Speaker 3: we use isn't set for that square interface. It's set

1359
01:08:01,373 --> 01:08:04,213
Speaker 3: for it's set for the oblong and so correct.

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01:08:04,293 --> 01:08:04,493
Speaker 6: Yeah.

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01:08:05,173 --> 01:08:06,293
Speaker 3: I don't know this one.

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01:08:06,373 --> 01:08:08,533
Speaker 14: It's different because I don't know if your friends one

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01:08:08,573 --> 01:08:11,693
Speaker 14: has the screen on both the apps inside. Yeah, so

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01:08:11,813 --> 01:08:13,413
Speaker 14: you can actually just use it like a normal phone,

1365
01:08:13,413 --> 01:08:15,053
Speaker 14: and then when you want to watch Netflix or you.

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01:08:15,093 --> 01:08:17,093
Speaker 3: Can open it up until the bigger version. Yeah, and

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01:08:17,173 --> 01:08:19,093
Speaker 3: it only costs you, you know, three and a half

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01:08:19,133 --> 01:08:20,213
Speaker 3: thousand New Zealand dollars.

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01:08:20,253 --> 01:08:20,813
Speaker 9: What a steal.

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Speaker 3: Hey, thank you so much, Paul, appreciate your time. That's

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01:08:24,973 --> 01:08:27,333
Speaker 3: our textbook, Paul Stenhouse here. It was Google's turn. I

1372
01:08:27,333 --> 01:08:28,693
Speaker 3: think it's going to be Apple's turn to do the

1373
01:08:28,733 --> 01:08:30,133
Speaker 3: same thing in a couple of weeks. Because I tend

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01:08:30,173 --> 01:08:32,573
Speaker 3: to agree with Paul. I reckon the days of having

1375
01:08:32,653 --> 01:08:37,173
Speaker 3: these big tech bosses dancing on a stage might be

1376
01:08:37,293 --> 01:08:40,413
Speaker 3: in the past. I reckon, unless they've got something truly

1377
01:08:40,573 --> 01:08:43,693
Speaker 3: innovative and new and exciting seventeen to eleven, you're with

1378
01:08:43,773 --> 01:08:45,733
Speaker 3: Jactame on news Talks, he'd be We've got your wine

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01:08:45,773 --> 01:08:46,133
Speaker 3: of the week.

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01:08:46,253 --> 01:08:51,093
Speaker 6: Next, no better way to kick off your weekend.

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01:08:51,413 --> 01:08:56,173
Speaker 2: Then with Jack Saturday morning with Jack Team News Talks,

1382
01:08:56,213 --> 01:08:58,293
Speaker 2: he'd be four.

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01:08:58,133 --> 01:09:00,013
Speaker 3: Teams to eleven on newsbalks, you'd be time to get

1384
01:09:00,013 --> 01:09:02,293
Speaker 3: your wine of the week. And Master Somalier Cameron Douglas

1385
01:09:02,453 --> 01:09:03,733
Speaker 3: is here with us this morning, killed her.

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01:09:04,173 --> 01:09:05,613
Speaker 4: Good morning, nice to be back.

1387
01:09:05,613 --> 01:09:08,013
Speaker 3: Nice to be checking your wine for us this week.

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01:09:08,093 --> 01:09:12,573
Speaker 3: And please forgive me butchering. The pronunciation is seafreed. I

1389
01:09:12,573 --> 01:09:14,493
Speaker 3: think I can do that. But I think we say seafreed,

1390
01:09:14,533 --> 01:09:16,373
Speaker 3: don't we find Nelson seafreed.

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01:09:16,213 --> 01:09:18,413
Speaker 4: Can say seafreed or sifried.

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01:09:18,093 --> 01:09:24,893
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, let's go sifried Zweigeldt. Yeah from twenty twenty four. Okay, Sweigeldt.

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01:09:24,893 --> 01:09:27,813
Speaker 3: I think I think, okay, we're close enough. A cifried

1394
01:09:27,973 --> 01:09:31,333
Speaker 3: Zweigelt from Nelson twenty twenty four is the year. Tell

1395
01:09:31,413 --> 01:09:32,533
Speaker 3: us about the wine.

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01:09:33,413 --> 01:09:37,773
Speaker 4: Well, this is a wonderful wine. That is it ticks

1397
01:09:37,813 --> 01:09:40,413
Speaker 4: all the boxes of I need a red wine? Which

1398
01:09:40,453 --> 01:09:41,773
Speaker 4: one is it going to be? I don't want it

1399
01:09:41,813 --> 01:09:43,853
Speaker 4: too light, and I don't want it too heavy, and

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01:09:44,013 --> 01:09:47,613
Speaker 4: z Weigelt ticks all of those boxes in such a

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01:09:47,693 --> 01:09:52,893
Speaker 4: lovely way. It's right, it's exuberant. It's got lots of

1402
01:09:52,933 --> 01:09:56,813
Speaker 4: red berry fruit flavors from plums to blackberries to boison

1403
01:09:56,933 --> 01:10:01,653
Speaker 4: berries laced with violets, lots of delicacy in there. But

1404
01:10:01,773 --> 01:10:07,133
Speaker 4: it's also dry, so it has this texture to it

1405
01:10:07,213 --> 01:10:11,133
Speaker 4: as well. That is from what we call across in

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01:10:11,213 --> 01:10:15,213
Speaker 4: the wine world. It's across from Saint Laurent Great Variety

1407
01:10:15,333 --> 01:10:20,653
Speaker 4: in bloo Frankish Great Variety, and that was developed in

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01:10:20,773 --> 01:10:24,893
Speaker 4: nineteen twenty three by doctor Frederick or Fritz as they

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01:10:24,973 --> 01:10:27,893
Speaker 4: call him, Vigout. So he named this new great variety

1410
01:10:28,053 --> 01:10:32,013
Speaker 4: after himself. What do you think, Yeah, well, well might

1411
01:10:32,053 --> 01:10:32,333
Speaker 4: as well.

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01:10:32,373 --> 01:10:32,613
Speaker 17: Why not.

1413
01:10:34,493 --> 01:10:37,133
Speaker 3: There's no guarantee that a century later a New Zealand

1414
01:10:37,213 --> 01:10:41,733
Speaker 3: radio host isn't going to But to the name, well,

1415
01:10:41,773 --> 01:10:42,093
Speaker 3: you know what.

1416
01:10:42,173 --> 01:10:48,813
Speaker 4: Saint Laurent's parents are the Saint Laurent and the blow Frankish,

1417
01:10:48,933 --> 01:10:52,013
Speaker 4: right right, But Saint Laurent's parent, one of its parents

1418
01:10:52,093 --> 01:10:54,653
Speaker 4: is pin and Noir. So there's a little link between

1419
01:10:55,893 --> 01:10:58,613
Speaker 4: the idea of sort of that softness and elegance from

1420
01:10:58,653 --> 01:11:02,813
Speaker 4: the Saint Laurent parent and then sort of that more robust,

1421
01:11:02,973 --> 01:11:07,613
Speaker 4: muscly side from the blow frankish right. And so when

1422
01:11:07,653 --> 01:11:12,373
Speaker 4: it comes to food, it is also rather versatile, and

1423
01:11:12,813 --> 01:11:17,493
Speaker 4: I can only make suggestions to the listeners, but I thought, gosh,

1424
01:11:17,733 --> 01:11:20,093
Speaker 4: one thing that I've had that is really delicious with

1425
01:11:20,173 --> 01:11:22,173
Speaker 4: the wine, this is venus and sausage.

1426
01:11:23,573 --> 01:11:24,853
Speaker 9: Yeah, and venus and.

1427
01:11:24,853 --> 01:11:29,573
Speaker 4: Sausage is always going to have this little layer of richness,

1428
01:11:29,733 --> 01:11:33,133
Speaker 4: a little bit of fattiness, which sausage is like. But

1429
01:11:33,333 --> 01:11:36,653
Speaker 4: if you contrast all of that immediately with something like

1430
01:11:37,013 --> 01:11:42,053
Speaker 4: onion jam and then layered potatoes with cream and cheese,

1431
01:11:42,973 --> 01:11:45,893
Speaker 4: then you've got the elements for a fabulous wine and

1432
01:11:45,933 --> 01:11:50,493
Speaker 4: food pairing because of the sweetness of the meat and

1433
01:11:50,573 --> 01:11:54,013
Speaker 4: the sweetness of the Saint Laurent side of Vigeld, and

1434
01:11:54,133 --> 01:11:57,453
Speaker 4: then you've got this muscly, meaty, tannic side of the

1435
01:11:57,573 --> 01:12:02,413
Speaker 4: wine that contrasts perfectly with the fattier side of the sausage.

1436
01:12:03,093 --> 01:12:04,813
Speaker 4: And a red wine of this sort of weight and

1437
01:12:04,973 --> 01:12:09,133
Speaker 4: intensity works rather well with something they've got cream in it,

1438
01:12:09,133 --> 01:12:12,813
Speaker 4: because all of that nice protein and cheesiness and creamy

1439
01:12:12,853 --> 01:12:18,613
Speaker 4: potatoes softens any tannins that you encounter in a wine

1440
01:12:18,773 --> 01:12:18,933
Speaker 4: like this.

1441
01:12:19,253 --> 01:12:21,293
Speaker 3: Yeah, in twenty twenty four turned out to be a

1442
01:12:21,333 --> 01:12:23,853
Speaker 3: pretty good vintage for the Nelson region, right, because they

1443
01:12:23,933 --> 01:12:27,813
Speaker 3: were expecting La Nina or in Almina, right, Yeah.

1444
01:12:27,933 --> 01:12:30,333
Speaker 4: Yeah, there was a little bit of an expectation that

1445
01:12:30,453 --> 01:12:33,813
Speaker 4: they might get a different kind of season away from

1446
01:12:33,973 --> 01:12:37,893
Speaker 4: the l Nina cycle into an al Nino, but it

1447
01:12:38,053 --> 01:12:40,973
Speaker 4: kind of didn't happen because it was very hot and

1448
01:12:41,373 --> 01:12:45,253
Speaker 4: very dry, and that meant great things in terms of

1449
01:12:45,733 --> 01:12:49,933
Speaker 4: fruits that after flowering and everything was looking great, but

1450
01:12:50,173 --> 01:12:54,453
Speaker 4: when an unexpected frost comes along that hit some of

1451
01:12:54,573 --> 01:12:57,213
Speaker 4: the region and that sort of blew the idea out

1452
01:12:57,253 --> 01:13:01,453
Speaker 4: of the fish tank. As they say. However, grape vines

1453
01:13:01,493 --> 01:13:05,813
Speaker 4: have a wonderful way of recovering and you wouldn't know

1454
01:13:06,453 --> 01:13:08,813
Speaker 4: bet there was any frost affected for anywhere in that

1455
01:13:08,933 --> 01:13:12,453
Speaker 4: region after that recovery. So in summary, they had a

1456
01:13:12,493 --> 01:13:13,013
Speaker 4: great seat.

1457
01:13:13,093 --> 01:13:15,613
Speaker 3: Yeah right, yeah, okay, great, So the wine is a

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01:13:15,773 --> 01:13:20,653
Speaker 3: sci Fried Vigelt from twenty twenty four. Sounds fantastic. Thank you, Cameron.

1459
01:13:20,653 --> 01:13:22,413
Speaker 3: We'll make sure all the details are on the news talks.

1460
01:13:22,453 --> 01:13:24,733
Speaker 4: He'd be website and great pronunciation.

1461
01:13:24,853 --> 01:13:25,333
Speaker 8: Well done.

1462
01:13:26,213 --> 01:13:28,453
Speaker 3: Only took me five attempts. We got there in the end,

1463
01:13:28,613 --> 01:13:30,893
Speaker 3: but no, it sounds amazing. I've not had his vigult before,

1464
01:13:30,893 --> 01:13:32,133
Speaker 3: so I reckon that could be a bit of me.

1465
01:13:32,933 --> 01:13:33,093
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1466
01:13:33,253 --> 01:13:33,693
Speaker 9: Check it out.

1467
01:13:33,733 --> 01:13:36,933
Speaker 1: It's a great wine garding with still sharp one hundred

1468
01:13:36,973 --> 01:13:39,533
Speaker 1: bucks of free accessories on selected chainsaws.

1469
01:13:40,173 --> 01:13:42,853
Speaker 3: Rude climb Pass is, of course our man in the garden.

1470
01:13:43,013 --> 01:13:46,413
Speaker 3: He's with us this morning, calder Rude Cura Jack.

1471
01:13:46,773 --> 01:13:48,373
Speaker 9: Is everything going all right in your out?

1472
01:13:48,693 --> 01:13:48,893
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1473
01:13:49,013 --> 01:13:51,893
Speaker 3: Not two bad thanks. Despite the flooding this week, yep,

1474
01:13:51,973 --> 01:13:54,853
Speaker 3: things have been okay otherwise the gardens and good neck.

1475
01:13:54,853 --> 01:13:57,813
Speaker 3: I put strawberries in you'd be pleased to hear. Good Yep,

1476
01:13:57,853 --> 01:14:02,293
Speaker 3: strawberries run, peace, straws down. So we're organized on that front,

1477
01:14:02,333 --> 01:14:05,173
Speaker 3: which is which is good. Although it is still pretty

1478
01:14:05,293 --> 01:14:09,733
Speaker 3: cold I would say unusually cold in England at the moment,

1479
01:14:09,973 --> 01:14:12,933
Speaker 3: Like it almost feels sort of like proper South Island cold.

1480
01:14:12,973 --> 01:14:18,453
Speaker 3: But anyway, hopefully Yeah, but you're focusing this morning on

1481
01:14:18,813 --> 01:14:22,093
Speaker 3: some winter movements with silk at this time of year.

1482
01:14:22,973 --> 01:14:23,533
Speaker 6: Well there are.

1483
01:14:23,893 --> 01:14:26,453
Speaker 17: You're talking about being cold, that's right this morning here too,

1484
01:14:26,533 --> 01:14:29,093
Speaker 17: we've ended up with a frost, especially on the on

1485
01:14:29,173 --> 01:14:32,693
Speaker 17: the lower areas of christ Church, and and and it's

1486
01:14:32,893 --> 01:14:36,013
Speaker 17: quite cool to see what happens in frost because there

1487
01:14:36,053 --> 01:14:41,573
Speaker 17: are certain little spiders, native spiders, that have little websites everywhere,

1488
01:14:41,733 --> 01:14:44,333
Speaker 17: you know, on the lawns and on and on on

1489
01:14:44,653 --> 01:14:46,893
Speaker 17: all sorts of places in your garden, and you can

1490
01:14:47,133 --> 01:14:49,453
Speaker 17: and here comes to thing. When you wake up in

1491
01:14:49,533 --> 01:14:51,773
Speaker 17: the morning and the sun comes up and there's still

1492
01:14:52,093 --> 01:14:55,653
Speaker 17: kind of frozen, you get this amazing if you like,

1493
01:14:56,573 --> 01:15:00,613
Speaker 17: you call it a gossamer of silk that becomes literally

1494
01:15:00,733 --> 01:15:06,133
Speaker 17: frozen and speckled with droplets of ice and water. And

1495
01:15:07,013 --> 01:15:09,013
Speaker 17: a lot of people miss that. If you don't get

1496
01:15:09,133 --> 01:15:11,813
Speaker 17: up early, you won't see that. They're just amazing to

1497
01:15:11,893 --> 01:15:16,293
Speaker 17: see that. Now, those creatures they make websites, of course,

1498
01:15:16,453 --> 01:15:19,613
Speaker 17: because websites are the things they catch their preying, you

1499
01:15:19,693 --> 01:15:23,653
Speaker 17: know what I mean. Yeah, it's a good word website,

1500
01:15:23,733 --> 01:15:26,653
Speaker 17: isn't it's And those websites are not trying to sell

1501
01:15:26,693 --> 01:15:27,173
Speaker 17: you stuff.

1502
01:15:27,253 --> 01:15:32,493
Speaker 8: They're actually there for this. Yeah, that's right, there you go.

1503
01:15:33,133 --> 01:15:35,693
Speaker 17: But so a seet web spider princess that you find

1504
01:15:35,733 --> 01:15:38,373
Speaker 17: in the forest is a trampoline and it has these

1505
01:15:38,533 --> 01:15:41,013
Speaker 17: lovely little guy ropes at the bottom and at the

1506
01:15:41,133 --> 01:15:44,373
Speaker 17: top sticking up from the trampoline so that at night,

1507
01:15:44,453 --> 01:15:47,693
Speaker 17: when a multro beagle flies passed and it doesn't see

1508
01:15:47,813 --> 01:15:52,333
Speaker 17: the little gossamers, if you like, it loses its balance

1509
01:15:52,373 --> 01:15:54,613
Speaker 17: and it falls onto the trampoline and then they go

1510
01:15:54,693 --> 01:15:55,213
Speaker 17: and get them.

1511
01:15:55,773 --> 01:15:57,253
Speaker 8: But these ones, the little.

1512
01:15:57,053 --> 01:15:59,413
Speaker 17: Ones that I'm finding on the lawn and everywhere in

1513
01:15:59,493 --> 01:16:04,493
Speaker 17: the hedges, are absolutely small native spiders that are literally

1514
01:16:04,973 --> 01:16:09,293
Speaker 17: having their home there. And it looks gorgeous because the

1515
01:16:09,413 --> 01:16:12,533
Speaker 17: moment it thaws out, you won't see them again. And

1516
01:16:12,653 --> 01:16:14,613
Speaker 17: this is where they where they live, and this is

1517
01:16:14,693 --> 01:16:17,453
Speaker 17: how they move, and this is how they catch their prey,

1518
01:16:18,013 --> 01:16:19,373
Speaker 17: even in the middle of winter.

1519
01:16:19,493 --> 01:16:20,013
Speaker 8: I loved that.

1520
01:16:20,333 --> 01:16:23,973
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's amazing. It's so beautiful. Like you said, so

1521
01:16:24,053 --> 01:16:25,933
Speaker 3: you gotta you've gotta be up early to see some

1522
01:16:26,013 --> 01:16:27,893
Speaker 3: of these things, right, Yes, you got.

1523
01:16:27,933 --> 01:16:29,893
Speaker 6: It, Yeah, you got it.

1524
01:16:30,093 --> 01:16:32,013
Speaker 17: But that's why I took those photos and chucked them

1525
01:16:32,053 --> 01:16:32,333
Speaker 17: in there.

1526
01:16:32,453 --> 01:16:32,573
Speaker 8: Now.

1527
01:16:34,093 --> 01:16:37,973
Speaker 9: Yeah, yes, lovely stuff sort of stuff.

1528
01:16:38,493 --> 01:16:40,493
Speaker 3: Okay, well, we will make sure that we put those

1529
01:16:40,493 --> 01:16:42,853
Speaker 3: photos that the gossamer and that kind of thing up

1530
01:16:42,893 --> 01:16:45,093
Speaker 3: on the up on the news talks websites and people

1531
01:16:45,133 --> 01:16:47,453
Speaker 3: can see them as well. Thank you very much, sir,

1532
01:16:47,493 --> 01:16:48,733
Speaker 3: so is there anything else I need to do with

1533
01:16:48,773 --> 01:16:50,813
Speaker 3: the strawberries for now that they'll be okay despite the

1534
01:16:50,893 --> 01:16:53,093
Speaker 3: cold with them. As I've put the piece right, it's

1535
01:16:53,133 --> 01:16:53,813
Speaker 3: all going to survive.

1536
01:16:53,973 --> 01:16:56,813
Speaker 17: You're keeping fine. You're keeping fine because even if it's

1537
01:16:56,933 --> 01:16:59,693
Speaker 17: if there's a little bit of a frost, it's not

1538
01:17:00,013 --> 01:17:02,413
Speaker 17: such a big deal. If it gets too much, which

1539
01:17:02,453 --> 01:17:04,653
Speaker 17: it won't be happening in green Auckland, I would say

1540
01:17:05,253 --> 01:17:07,173
Speaker 17: you could put something over the top to stop it,

1541
01:17:07,253 --> 01:17:09,293
Speaker 17: you know, frost cloths and things like that.

1542
01:17:09,893 --> 01:17:13,893
Speaker 3: Honestly, Rangers too, I know you've always you got away. Yeah,

1543
01:17:14,133 --> 01:17:16,133
Speaker 3: I feel like it's this. I feel like it's close enough.

1544
01:17:16,173 --> 01:17:17,893
Speaker 3: We're getting close enough to the end of winter, aren't we.

1545
01:17:18,333 --> 01:17:20,253
Speaker 3: It's always a bit of a punt with the Hydrangers.

1546
01:17:20,253 --> 01:17:22,533
Speaker 3: I feel like, you know, you just you never want

1547
01:17:22,573 --> 01:17:25,493
Speaker 3: to leave it too late. But cut them back.

1548
01:17:26,333 --> 01:17:26,653
Speaker 4: Very good.

1549
01:17:26,773 --> 01:17:28,733
Speaker 3: Thank you sir. We will catch you again very soon.

1550
01:17:28,933 --> 01:17:31,013
Speaker 3: Route climb passed in the garden for us. After eleven

1551
01:17:31,013 --> 01:17:32,813
Speaker 3: o'clock on news talks, we're going to tell you about

1552
01:17:32,813 --> 01:17:36,293
Speaker 3: the brand new thriller from Joan Nesbow. It's a standalone

1553
01:17:36,333 --> 01:17:38,373
Speaker 3: so you don't have to read previous stories in a

1554
01:17:38,413 --> 01:17:41,093
Speaker 3: series or anything like that. It's called Wolf Hour, So

1555
01:17:41,213 --> 01:17:42,573
Speaker 3: our book review is going to be in with her

1556
01:17:42,653 --> 01:17:45,293
Speaker 3: thoughts on that. Our travel correspondent is taking us to

1557
01:17:45,373 --> 01:17:48,173
Speaker 3: warmer climbs this morning is he so often does at

1558
01:17:48,213 --> 01:17:51,453
Speaker 3: this time of year with his favorite bites and sights

1559
01:17:51,653 --> 01:17:54,933
Speaker 3: on the Sunshine Coast. News is next, though it's almost

1560
01:17:54,973 --> 01:17:57,373
Speaker 3: eleven o'clock. I'm Jack Tame. It's Saturday morning, and you

1561
01:17:57,453 --> 01:17:58,773
Speaker 3: know what this is news talk.

1562
01:17:58,653 --> 01:18:03,493
Speaker 2: ZB Saturday Morning with Jack team keeping the conversation going

1563
01:18:03,653 --> 01:18:05,493
Speaker 2: through the weekend US talks EDB.

1564
01:18:30,333 --> 01:18:32,173
Speaker 3: Honestly, I feel like I've been sold a bit of

1565
01:18:32,213 --> 01:18:36,453
Speaker 3: a doozy. Tonight is the twenty third of August. Well,

1566
01:18:36,453 --> 01:18:38,213
Speaker 3: today is the twenty third of August, so tonight is

1567
01:18:38,253 --> 01:18:40,013
Speaker 3: the night of the twenty third of August, which means

1568
01:18:40,533 --> 01:18:43,133
Speaker 3: it was time for the black moon. When I heard

1569
01:18:43,133 --> 01:18:44,413
Speaker 3: of a black moon, I thought, oh my gosh, a

1570
01:18:44,453 --> 01:18:46,053
Speaker 3: black moon. That's going to be amazing. It's going to

1571
01:18:46,093 --> 01:18:47,853
Speaker 3: look amazing. But then I thought, hang on, this isn't

1572
01:18:47,853 --> 01:18:49,533
Speaker 3: a whole pops of the moon. Is that it's kind

1573
01:18:49,573 --> 01:18:52,093
Speaker 3: of shiny, it's bright in the sky. If it's black,

1574
01:18:52,133 --> 01:18:54,373
Speaker 3: how's that going to work? Turns out that yeah, that's

1575
01:18:54,413 --> 01:18:57,293
Speaker 3: the issue, well, not the issue. The issue is that

1576
01:18:57,373 --> 01:18:59,813
Speaker 3: it's been poorly named a black moon. So basically a

1577
01:18:59,893 --> 01:19:02,493
Speaker 3: black moon is the thirteenth new moon of the year,

1578
01:19:02,893 --> 01:19:05,093
Speaker 3: but sometimes you have black moons and sometimes you don't,

1579
01:19:05,133 --> 01:19:10,253
Speaker 3: basically depending on the celestial calendar. But despite the name,

1580
01:19:10,373 --> 01:19:14,413
Speaker 3: you can actually see the moon. So despite it being

1581
01:19:14,493 --> 01:19:16,253
Speaker 3: called a black moon, you can actually see the moon.

1582
01:19:16,333 --> 01:19:18,493
Speaker 3: In fact, the moon's going to be out during the

1583
01:19:18,573 --> 01:19:20,653
Speaker 3: day and it's going to be bright at night, so

1584
01:19:20,973 --> 01:19:23,893
Speaker 3: it's a good time for stargazing. If you're into stargazing.

1585
01:19:24,293 --> 01:19:26,373
Speaker 3: It usually means that the sky is really dark and

1586
01:19:26,413 --> 01:19:28,653
Speaker 3: you'll be able to see the stars for it really clearly.

1587
01:19:28,733 --> 01:19:31,213
Speaker 3: They'll be really distinct in the sky. But a black

1588
01:19:31,293 --> 01:19:34,173
Speaker 3: moon doesn't actually change too much in the moon itself,

1589
01:19:34,213 --> 01:19:36,253
Speaker 3: although it should be fairly prominent. So it's the twenty

1590
01:19:36,293 --> 01:19:38,093
Speaker 3: third of August, we'll all be celebrating a black moon,

1591
01:19:38,173 --> 01:19:39,413
Speaker 3: just not in the way that some of us may

1592
01:19:39,453 --> 01:19:42,253
Speaker 3: be expected. Before midday on news Talk ZB, we're going

1593
01:19:42,293 --> 01:19:45,293
Speaker 3: to play some new music from Leave. She has a

1594
01:19:45,413 --> 01:19:49,093
Speaker 3: really really interesting sound, a really interesting background. She kind

1595
01:19:49,133 --> 01:19:52,213
Speaker 3: of hit it big through to via TikTok. During the

1596
01:19:52,333 --> 01:19:55,173
Speaker 3: covid years and she's got a brand new album out.

1597
01:19:55,413 --> 01:19:58,653
Speaker 3: It's really it's a weird kind of blend of different

1598
01:19:58,813 --> 01:20:02,733
Speaker 3: musical genres. It's kind of jazzy and yet kind of

1599
01:20:03,773 --> 01:20:07,213
Speaker 3: musically as in you know, like like a like a

1600
01:20:07,933 --> 01:20:11,733
Speaker 3: like a stage musical. And she's got a really beautiful

1601
01:20:11,773 --> 01:20:13,693
Speaker 3: clear voice. So anyway, we're going to play you some labor.

1602
01:20:13,773 --> 01:20:15,373
Speaker 3: She's really hard to kind of pin down. We'll play

1603
01:20:15,453 --> 01:20:17,813
Speaker 3: some of that album before midday as well as that

1604
01:20:17,853 --> 01:20:20,253
Speaker 3: will have your book picks for this weekend Right now though,

1605
01:20:20,293 --> 01:20:23,253
Speaker 3: time to catch up with that. Sustainability commentator Kate Hall

1606
01:20:23,413 --> 01:20:25,613
Speaker 3: is here and she's talking sustainable food this morning.

1607
01:20:25,693 --> 01:20:27,213
Speaker 6: Good morning, good mind Jack.

1608
01:20:27,373 --> 01:20:29,453
Speaker 3: Do you know when I think of sustainable food, I

1609
01:20:29,493 --> 01:20:31,613
Speaker 3: think of the obvious stuff like or try not to

1610
01:20:31,773 --> 01:20:34,893
Speaker 3: waste food around around the kitchen and that kind of thing,

1611
01:20:34,933 --> 01:20:37,093
Speaker 3: But actually there are so many things that we can

1612
01:20:37,213 --> 01:20:39,893
Speaker 3: do just to be a bit more sustainable in the kitchen.

1613
01:20:39,933 --> 01:20:42,933
Speaker 3: And when you do think about the scale of waste

1614
01:20:43,253 --> 01:20:45,173
Speaker 3: when it comes to food, it's really appalling.

1615
01:20:45,733 --> 01:20:48,613
Speaker 19: Oh my goodness, yes it is. I think people when

1616
01:20:48,653 --> 01:20:51,973
Speaker 19: any sustainable food, they think of like legi garden, you know,

1617
01:20:52,173 --> 01:20:54,893
Speaker 19: and like someone with her lifestyle block and they can

1618
01:20:55,333 --> 01:20:56,133
Speaker 19: have a house.

1619
01:20:56,053 --> 01:20:59,213
Speaker 3: Cow, and like, do you not have a house cow?

1620
01:20:59,333 --> 01:21:00,053
Speaker 6: Is that what you're telling me?

1621
01:21:00,413 --> 01:21:01,693
Speaker 19: I mean, I feel like a house.

1622
01:21:06,013 --> 01:21:09,333
Speaker 3: True to that, but it's quite different.

1623
01:21:09,813 --> 01:21:10,053
Speaker 9: It is.

1624
01:21:10,213 --> 01:21:12,973
Speaker 19: Yeah, it's different and the same ol food. Doesn't that

1625
01:21:13,053 --> 01:21:15,533
Speaker 19: you don't actually need a lot of land or a

1626
01:21:15,613 --> 01:21:17,933
Speaker 19: lot of time to do it. I mean things do

1627
01:21:18,093 --> 01:21:21,493
Speaker 19: take time. There are some simple things like, you know,

1628
01:21:21,613 --> 01:21:25,093
Speaker 19: I make butcher. You know, so instead of buying fizzy

1629
01:21:25,173 --> 01:21:27,933
Speaker 19: drink or you know, a nice dress, making open butcher

1630
01:21:27,933 --> 01:21:32,053
Speaker 19: it's so much more cost effective as well. And I've

1631
01:21:32,093 --> 01:21:35,413
Speaker 19: actually gotten down to fine art that it would only

1632
01:21:35,493 --> 01:21:37,653
Speaker 19: take me, you know, a few minutes. I just basically

1633
01:21:37,733 --> 01:21:39,853
Speaker 19: just make me put my scoby in it.

1634
01:21:40,253 --> 01:21:43,053
Speaker 3: But there is one downside to that, and that's that

1635
01:21:43,173 --> 01:21:45,853
Speaker 3: when any if anyone's ever visiting your house and they

1636
01:21:45,933 --> 01:21:48,293
Speaker 3: open the fridge and there's like a jar with a

1637
01:21:48,333 --> 01:21:51,013
Speaker 3: scoby in it, it looks like disturbing, like something else.

1638
01:21:51,053 --> 01:21:54,013
Speaker 3: Because I've brewed my own butcher as well, and it

1639
01:21:54,053 --> 01:21:55,173
Speaker 3: can be a shocking sight.

1640
01:21:55,813 --> 01:21:56,293
Speaker 6: It can be.

1641
01:21:56,453 --> 01:21:59,413
Speaker 19: I have been known to just in the evening take

1642
01:21:59,413 --> 01:22:01,493
Speaker 19: all my scobies out. I like to like wash them

1643
01:22:01,533 --> 01:22:03,613
Speaker 19: and count them I know this is this is weird,

1644
01:22:03,733 --> 01:22:07,813
Speaker 19: be going off topic, but I am local scobi dealer

1645
01:22:07,933 --> 01:22:10,533
Speaker 19: and kambucha maker. But everyone loves them, you know. I

1646
01:22:10,653 --> 01:22:13,733
Speaker 19: think for the grossness of having some Scobi's in your fridge,

1647
01:22:13,893 --> 01:22:14,973
Speaker 19: the kamb butcher tastes great.

1648
01:22:15,093 --> 01:22:18,333
Speaker 3: Yeah, and so you can do that, like not just

1649
01:22:18,413 --> 01:22:20,413
Speaker 3: with ko butcher, but like making sauer krat or something

1650
01:22:20,493 --> 01:22:21,853
Speaker 3: like that works pretty similarly.

1651
01:22:22,053 --> 01:22:25,453
Speaker 19: Right, Absolutely, I've made saur krat before. Personally, isn't a

1652
01:22:25,493 --> 01:22:28,853
Speaker 19: food I eat a lot. Yeah, so I didn't kind

1653
01:22:28,893 --> 01:22:32,413
Speaker 19: of you continue making that regularly, but yeah, basically it's

1654
01:22:32,533 --> 01:22:34,973
Speaker 19: just you know, salty water doesn't take up too much

1655
01:22:35,013 --> 01:22:37,933
Speaker 19: space in your pantry too. Bread is a really big

1656
01:22:38,013 --> 01:22:40,973
Speaker 19: one I think for me when I think about sustainable food,

1657
01:22:41,373 --> 01:22:43,973
Speaker 19: looking at the foods that you eat regularly. Because if

1658
01:22:44,013 --> 01:22:46,653
Speaker 19: you're going to all this trouble to reduce waste around

1659
01:22:47,213 --> 01:22:49,653
Speaker 19: one thing, you know that you don't doing very much,

1660
01:22:49,773 --> 01:22:53,333
Speaker 19: it's actually probably not worth your time passing over. But

1661
01:22:53,533 --> 01:22:56,493
Speaker 19: something like bread is a really awesome one that you

1662
01:22:56,573 --> 01:23:00,293
Speaker 19: can make yourself. When I first started making it, I

1663
01:23:00,813 --> 01:23:03,413
Speaker 19: found a recipe online and it was like a rough waste.

1664
01:23:03,933 --> 01:23:05,773
Speaker 19: I'm cerely act gluten free so it also had to

1665
01:23:05,853 --> 01:23:08,973
Speaker 19: be free of gluten, and it was disgusting.

1666
01:23:09,213 --> 01:23:09,413
Speaker 9: Yeah.

1667
01:23:10,133 --> 01:23:15,053
Speaker 19: I genuinely remember blocking my nose and eating it because

1668
01:23:15,253 --> 01:23:17,173
Speaker 19: I was like, I'm not going to waste this bread.

1669
01:23:18,533 --> 01:23:19,253
Speaker 4: Yeah, not good.

1670
01:23:19,333 --> 01:23:22,613
Speaker 19: But over the years I have found buy my bread

1671
01:23:22,653 --> 01:23:25,533
Speaker 19: mixers from the Alternative bread Coat. She's a lady in

1672
01:23:25,613 --> 01:23:28,253
Speaker 19: fun Day who makes a bread mix It takes me

1673
01:23:28,373 --> 01:23:29,813
Speaker 19: six minutes and thirty seconds to.

1674
01:23:30,013 --> 01:23:30,613
Speaker 6: Put it together.

1675
01:23:31,493 --> 01:23:32,933
Speaker 3: Wow, do you have a bread maker?

1676
01:23:33,573 --> 01:23:33,813
Speaker 4: Nope?

1677
01:23:34,293 --> 01:23:37,053
Speaker 19: No, and an oven? You could get a bread maker.

1678
01:23:37,333 --> 01:23:37,533
Speaker 10: Yeah.

1679
01:23:37,653 --> 01:23:39,573
Speaker 19: Again, it's just space, you know, lots of all of

1680
01:23:39,653 --> 01:23:42,533
Speaker 19: an apartments and don't have space for all this stuff.

1681
01:23:42,613 --> 01:23:45,693
Speaker 19: So yeah, yeah, that is delicious. It is way more

1682
01:23:45,733 --> 01:23:50,413
Speaker 19: cost effective than the supermarket. Yeah, we're just focusing on

1683
01:23:50,493 --> 01:23:51,613
Speaker 19: those main food groups.

1684
01:23:51,773 --> 01:23:51,973
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1685
01:23:52,093 --> 01:23:53,853
Speaker 3: And I suppose you could do that with like yogurt.

1686
01:23:54,413 --> 01:23:55,973
Speaker 3: I mean, there's actually quite a lot of stuff you

1687
01:23:55,973 --> 01:23:58,413
Speaker 3: can do now. So I don't truthfully, I don't make

1688
01:23:58,453 --> 01:24:00,173
Speaker 3: my own bread. I don't make my own yogurt, but

1689
01:24:00,293 --> 01:24:05,133
Speaker 3: I do I do my own soda water ooh yeah,

1690
01:24:05,493 --> 01:24:07,653
Speaker 3: because and that's an easy one. It is an easy

1691
01:24:07,693 --> 01:24:10,653
Speaker 3: one to do. But just because for a couple of reasons.

1692
01:24:10,693 --> 01:24:12,693
Speaker 3: First of all, it obviously seems very wasteful to be

1693
01:24:12,773 --> 01:24:15,693
Speaker 3: buying like bottle after bottle, even though you can recycle

1694
01:24:15,733 --> 01:24:17,933
Speaker 3: the bottles, it still seems a bit wasteful. But also,

1695
01:24:18,013 --> 01:24:20,733
Speaker 3: I just get through so much soda water that if

1696
01:24:20,813 --> 01:24:23,293
Speaker 3: I was buying it all at the supermarket, I'd be

1697
01:24:23,333 --> 01:24:25,733
Speaker 3: buying like four or five bottles a week. And that,

1698
01:24:26,053 --> 01:24:28,333
Speaker 3: I mean, that's just like it's gonna be very inconvenient

1699
01:24:28,413 --> 01:24:29,333
Speaker 3: for taking back to the car.

1700
01:24:29,893 --> 01:24:33,813
Speaker 19: Oh, totally, you can actually be really clever and you know,

1701
01:24:33,933 --> 01:24:38,253
Speaker 19: not only cost affective, but space effected. You know, like

1702
01:24:38,893 --> 01:24:41,453
Speaker 19: because again all these things take space in your pantry,

1703
01:24:41,573 --> 01:24:43,733
Speaker 19: and people go, oh, it's just too much effort, but

1704
01:24:44,133 --> 01:24:46,093
Speaker 19: if you try, it's one thing. And you know, even

1705
01:24:46,133 --> 01:24:49,453
Speaker 19: on the bread bread situation, if you can't make your

1706
01:24:49,493 --> 01:24:53,053
Speaker 19: own bread, you can likely find a bakery close to

1707
01:24:53,133 --> 01:24:55,573
Speaker 19: you and just bring a fabric bag or a pillow cake,

1708
01:24:55,653 --> 01:24:59,493
Speaker 19: yeah right, something to pop it in. Because there's lots

1709
01:24:59,533 --> 01:25:02,013
Speaker 19: of doy kind of basics you can make. But if

1710
01:25:02,053 --> 01:25:05,293
Speaker 19: you're not a goy person, you can likely outsource that

1711
01:25:05,533 --> 01:25:07,653
Speaker 19: and still in a sustainable, low based way.

1712
01:25:07,733 --> 01:25:11,133
Speaker 3: Yeah, and like buying bulk and you know, kind of

1713
01:25:11,213 --> 01:25:14,093
Speaker 3: refilling your pantry staples. That's an obvious thing to do

1714
01:25:14,133 --> 01:25:14,453
Speaker 3: as well.

1715
01:25:14,573 --> 01:25:18,053
Speaker 19: Yes, yep, especially I know you know, before I had

1716
01:25:18,253 --> 01:25:20,893
Speaker 19: a baby, I had the more freedom of time to

1717
01:25:21,053 --> 01:25:23,453
Speaker 19: go to a bolt than shop like quite regularly, probably

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01:25:23,493 --> 01:25:25,893
Speaker 19: once a week or a couple of times a month.

1719
01:25:26,933 --> 01:25:30,413
Speaker 19: But when you talk about buying bulk, actually buy like

1720
01:25:30,573 --> 01:25:33,053
Speaker 19: heaps of rice, heaps of sugar. Yeah, you can just

1721
01:25:33,173 --> 01:25:36,573
Speaker 19: do that every nice three months. Again, it depends on

1722
01:25:36,653 --> 01:25:39,493
Speaker 19: how much pantry space you have, but it's not actually

1723
01:25:39,733 --> 01:25:41,653
Speaker 19: a huge You don't have to go out of your

1724
01:25:41,693 --> 01:25:45,693
Speaker 19: way very much to just buy those staples, herbs, spices,

1725
01:25:46,093 --> 01:25:50,213
Speaker 19: baking ingredients. Yeah, it can actually just be a much

1726
01:25:50,293 --> 01:25:51,653
Speaker 19: more effective way to do your shopping.

1727
01:25:51,853 --> 01:25:52,053
Speaker 9: Yeah.

1728
01:25:52,173 --> 01:25:54,413
Speaker 3: Can I add something to your list of ways to

1729
01:25:54,493 --> 01:25:56,613
Speaker 3: be more sustainable in the kitchen? So I'm a big

1730
01:25:56,693 --> 01:26:00,013
Speaker 3: believer and like just using what you've got sometimes, right, So,

1731
01:26:00,813 --> 01:26:03,613
Speaker 3: I just, for whatever reason, I just hate meal planning.

1732
01:26:03,613 --> 01:26:04,813
Speaker 3: I think it's because it's at the end of the

1733
01:26:04,853 --> 01:26:06,093
Speaker 3: week for me, like I get to the very end

1734
01:26:06,133 --> 01:26:07,853
Speaker 3: of the way and we've got to go to the supermarket,

1735
01:26:08,333 --> 01:26:10,453
Speaker 3: and I'm like, oh, I just can't bear to think

1736
01:26:10,493 --> 01:26:12,253
Speaker 3: about the weaker head. And so we always kind of

1737
01:26:12,333 --> 01:26:15,133
Speaker 3: plan for like, you know, we have like we have

1738
01:26:15,173 --> 01:26:17,133
Speaker 3: my food bags, so that comes to the first three

1739
01:26:17,213 --> 01:26:19,173
Speaker 3: or four days, and then after that I'm always like,

1740
01:26:19,253 --> 01:26:22,013
Speaker 3: this's just clean up what if we've got And a

1741
01:26:22,133 --> 01:26:23,773
Speaker 3: good way to do that if you actually want to

1742
01:26:23,813 --> 01:26:27,253
Speaker 3: have a meal meal is to put what if you've

1743
01:26:27,293 --> 01:26:31,573
Speaker 3: got in the pantry into AI. So you go to

1744
01:26:31,693 --> 01:26:33,693
Speaker 3: check GPT or anything else and you go like, what

1745
01:26:33,893 --> 01:26:35,693
Speaker 3: could I make out of this? That would be nice?

1746
01:26:37,413 --> 01:26:37,853
Speaker 3: Quite good.

1747
01:26:38,133 --> 01:26:42,453
Speaker 19: Yeah, I've totally done that before. Yeah, it definitely works.

1748
01:26:42,693 --> 01:26:46,253
Speaker 19: Also if you don't have AI or you're not you

1749
01:26:46,333 --> 01:26:47,373
Speaker 19: know on that band Megan.

1750
01:26:47,693 --> 01:26:47,893
Speaker 20: Yet.

1751
01:26:48,333 --> 01:26:50,653
Speaker 19: One thing I do with all of the vegetables and

1752
01:26:50,973 --> 01:26:53,253
Speaker 19: my punch in the fridge especially that needs to be

1753
01:26:53,373 --> 01:26:56,173
Speaker 19: used up, I seen them or freight them, depending on

1754
01:26:56,253 --> 01:26:59,413
Speaker 19: what they are. I blend them and put them on pasta.

1755
01:26:59,973 --> 01:27:04,773
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, immediately, And you don't you don't really.

1756
01:27:04,693 --> 01:27:06,573
Speaker 19: Have to think about it, like as long as is

1757
01:27:06,733 --> 01:27:10,333
Speaker 19: and I've checking a few consultants and spaces. It always

1758
01:27:10,373 --> 01:27:12,293
Speaker 19: makes a pasta sauces always different.

1759
01:27:12,733 --> 01:27:15,453
Speaker 3: That's good. It's a very good idea. Yeah, okay, can

1760
01:27:15,533 --> 01:27:17,053
Speaker 3: I can I add one last thing to it?

1761
01:27:17,133 --> 01:27:17,293
Speaker 9: Then?

1762
01:27:18,173 --> 01:27:21,013
Speaker 3: And this is maybe I mean not something for everyone necessarily,

1763
01:27:21,093 --> 01:27:22,613
Speaker 3: but for those of us who do enjoy a little

1764
01:27:22,613 --> 01:27:26,213
Speaker 3: bit of meat sometimes have a little bit of tcharito

1765
01:27:27,293 --> 01:27:30,693
Speaker 3: in your fridge because charita lasts ages obviously because it's

1766
01:27:30,693 --> 01:27:33,613
Speaker 3: all cured. And then like a little bit of charita

1767
01:27:33,773 --> 01:27:37,773
Speaker 3: goes so far soft exactly. So if you were doing

1768
01:27:37,853 --> 01:27:39,813
Speaker 3: your steam vegi's that are kind of pass their best,

1769
01:27:39,813 --> 01:27:42,013
Speaker 3: but you're turning then and talk of pasta srse, maybe

1770
01:27:42,013 --> 01:27:43,773
Speaker 3: you got a little bit of garlic, and then you've

1771
01:27:43,853 --> 01:27:46,933
Speaker 3: just got honestly, like a third of a chiriza sausage

1772
01:27:47,493 --> 01:27:49,213
Speaker 3: is more than enough for one person for dinner. Like

1773
01:27:49,293 --> 01:27:51,413
Speaker 3: it just goes so far and it really makes a meal.

1774
01:27:51,493 --> 01:27:51,973
Speaker 3: So there you go.

1775
01:27:52,533 --> 01:27:53,413
Speaker 19: So I'm getting hungry.

1776
01:27:55,413 --> 01:27:56,093
Speaker 20: Look look at us.

1777
01:27:56,093 --> 01:28:00,133
Speaker 3: Teaming eh No, I love that cool. Hey, thank you

1778
01:28:00,253 --> 01:28:01,693
Speaker 3: so much. We're going to make sure all of those

1779
01:28:01,733 --> 01:28:04,053
Speaker 3: tips and recommendations are on the news talk zep website.

1780
01:28:04,293 --> 01:28:07,613
Speaker 3: You have a wonderful weekend, and I and all I

1781
01:28:07,653 --> 01:28:09,453
Speaker 3: can do is assure you that no one thinks of

1782
01:28:09,533 --> 01:28:10,813
Speaker 3: you as a housecow right now.

1783
01:28:11,733 --> 01:28:12,013
Speaker 6: Thank you.

1784
01:28:12,213 --> 01:28:13,973
Speaker 8: Okay, yeah, get up.

1785
01:28:13,853 --> 01:28:15,893
Speaker 3: The great work, Kate. We'll see you again, saying Kate Hall,

1786
01:28:16,173 --> 01:28:18,013
Speaker 3: of course you can find her all on all the

1787
01:28:18,133 --> 01:28:21,973
Speaker 3: social media platforms, just by searching ethically. Kate seventeen past

1788
01:28:21,973 --> 01:28:25,053
Speaker 3: eleven with jacktam on Newstalks. He'd be our travel correspondent.

1789
01:28:25,213 --> 01:28:29,373
Speaker 2: Is in next travel with Windy wo Tours where the

1790
01:28:29,493 --> 01:28:31,173
Speaker 2: world is yours for now?

1791
01:28:31,613 --> 01:28:34,093
Speaker 3: My god, he's our travel correspondent. He's here this morning.

1792
01:28:34,133 --> 01:28:36,733
Speaker 6: Good morning sir, Good morning Jack.

1793
01:28:36,813 --> 01:28:39,533
Speaker 21: Did you know the black moon is apparently a powerful

1794
01:28:39,613 --> 01:28:41,173
Speaker 21: time for deep transformation?

1795
01:28:41,653 --> 01:28:41,853
Speaker 8: Oh?

1796
01:28:42,933 --> 01:28:45,773
Speaker 3: I didn't know that. Isn't every time a powerful time

1797
01:28:45,853 --> 01:28:48,693
Speaker 3: for deep transformation? Have you been reading your horror up again?

1798
01:28:49,693 --> 01:28:49,933
Speaker 8: Well?

1799
01:28:50,053 --> 01:28:53,213
Speaker 21: I went on a website called Living with the Moon. Yeah,

1800
01:28:53,333 --> 01:28:56,293
Speaker 21: rightmoon dot com. I think it's sort of get at

1801
01:28:56,333 --> 01:28:59,133
Speaker 21: pagans and would be witches. Well, apparently the black moon

1802
01:28:59,373 --> 01:29:04,413
Speaker 21: is the most extraordinary time for the process of personal growth.

1803
01:29:05,453 --> 01:29:07,333
Speaker 8: So there you go, Jackson, something for you tonight.

1804
01:29:07,773 --> 01:29:09,213
Speaker 3: Yeah, we could you get in this time tomorrow and

1805
01:29:09,293 --> 01:29:13,933
Speaker 3: see what's happened a completely different person by then? Anyway?

1806
01:29:14,133 --> 01:29:18,373
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I feel like there's a you know, there's

1807
01:29:18,413 --> 01:29:23,173
Speaker 3: a prediction for every sort of astronomical event, isn't there. Anyway, morning,

1808
01:29:23,253 --> 01:29:26,173
Speaker 3: we are celebrating flavors of the Sunshine Coast and you've

1809
01:29:26,173 --> 01:29:28,773
Speaker 3: just been on the Sunshine Coast at their premiere food festival.

1810
01:29:30,013 --> 01:29:33,093
Speaker 21: I timed it right, yes, because every year in late

1811
01:29:33,173 --> 01:29:37,493
Speaker 21: July through early August, the Curated Plate takes center stage

1812
01:29:37,533 --> 01:29:41,613
Speaker 21: and this is the most extraordinary gorge fest on food

1813
01:29:41,733 --> 01:29:44,573
Speaker 21: and drink, so all across the Sunshine Coast they have

1814
01:29:44,773 --> 01:29:50,493
Speaker 21: this collection of culinary experiences in the most gorgeous settings

1815
01:29:50,973 --> 01:29:54,813
Speaker 21: and it just really showcases how good the region's culinary

1816
01:29:54,973 --> 01:29:57,453
Speaker 21: arsenal is. So if you want to check out that

1817
01:29:57,613 --> 01:30:00,133
Speaker 21: festival year end of July early August every year. But

1818
01:30:01,293 --> 01:30:05,133
Speaker 21: the thing that just blows me away about the Sunshine Coast, Jack,

1819
01:30:05,373 --> 01:30:09,293
Speaker 21: is it is chip our house of premium local produce

1820
01:30:09,373 --> 01:30:13,253
Speaker 21: like they've got somewhere. Were around a thousand food and

1821
01:30:13,493 --> 01:30:17,773
Speaker 21: drink producers based on the Sunshine Coast, So I know.

1822
01:30:18,413 --> 01:30:20,373
Speaker 21: So if you just want to take your belly for

1823
01:30:20,453 --> 01:30:23,493
Speaker 21: a holiday, you know, to do a bit of nothing

1824
01:30:23,573 --> 01:30:26,693
Speaker 21: and sipping, it's absolutely the place to go.

1825
01:30:27,053 --> 01:30:29,973
Speaker 3: Okay, Yeah, So you talked about Mulaney last week and

1826
01:30:30,133 --> 01:30:32,973
Speaker 3: you mentioned now it's kind of a food mecha of sorts.

1827
01:30:33,013 --> 01:30:33,933
Speaker 3: Where should you start?

1828
01:30:34,093 --> 01:30:38,013
Speaker 21: Uh yeah, so many tastes, so little time, but a

1829
01:30:38,253 --> 01:30:41,293
Speaker 21: really good place right in the heart of Maple Street

1830
01:30:41,893 --> 01:30:44,333
Speaker 21: as Mullaney Food Coast. So this is like a one

1831
01:30:44,373 --> 01:30:47,813
Speaker 21: stop and porium for us, so much local artisan produce.

1832
01:30:48,533 --> 01:30:50,493
Speaker 21: They've got a cafe, they've got a deli. It's like

1833
01:30:50,613 --> 01:30:53,333
Speaker 21: a cellar dwarf for food. And one of the really

1834
01:30:53,413 --> 01:30:54,893
Speaker 21: cool things you can do is just go in there

1835
01:30:54,933 --> 01:30:57,093
Speaker 21: and pick up a picnic box. So they'll just load

1836
01:30:57,173 --> 01:31:00,013
Speaker 21: it up with you know, local cured meats and olives

1837
01:31:00,053 --> 01:31:01,253
Speaker 21: and pastes, the works.

1838
01:31:02,253 --> 01:31:03,973
Speaker 8: It's big dairy country mullany.

1839
01:31:04,613 --> 01:31:09,613
Speaker 21: So the shop also hens its own gelato every day.

1840
01:31:10,133 --> 01:31:12,133
Speaker 21: I thought of you, Jack, as I had two scoops

1841
01:31:12,173 --> 01:31:15,453
Speaker 21: of fig and almonds gelatto, thank you very much. They

1842
01:31:15,533 --> 01:31:18,573
Speaker 21: also had their own from Marjorie, and I could not

1843
01:31:18,773 --> 01:31:21,173
Speaker 21: believe the size of the queue spilling out the door

1844
01:31:21,253 --> 01:31:23,613
Speaker 21: like kids in the candy shop. But they stuck over

1845
01:31:23,773 --> 01:31:28,173
Speaker 21: two hundred and fifty Jesus in that promajorie. So yeah,

1846
01:31:28,253 --> 01:31:29,733
Speaker 21: it's a really good one stop shop.

1847
01:31:29,773 --> 01:31:32,213
Speaker 3: And speaking of Buffalo is a big deal in these parts.

1848
01:31:33,173 --> 01:31:35,853
Speaker 8: Oh my goodness, Yes, Mulaney Buffalo.

1849
01:31:36,013 --> 01:31:40,133
Speaker 21: They produce buffalo milk and buffalo meat, high protein, lower fat,

1850
01:31:41,693 --> 01:31:45,653
Speaker 21: and lower cholesterol than standard beef or dairy milk.

1851
01:31:46,133 --> 01:31:47,413
Speaker 8: That's why it's so popular.

1852
01:31:47,613 --> 01:31:52,133
Speaker 21: But the street food to tuck into a mulaney is

1853
01:31:52,373 --> 01:31:57,333
Speaker 21: buffalo cofter. Quite a few eateries sell these coftas, so

1854
01:31:58,333 --> 01:32:01,813
Speaker 21: it's a ground buffalo kebab or patty and then they'll

1855
01:32:01,893 --> 01:32:05,213
Speaker 21: serve it and peter topped with zingy sauces like ziki.

1856
01:32:05,653 --> 01:32:08,173
Speaker 8: But a q can bar but man, they god have

1857
01:32:08,373 --> 01:32:10,133
Speaker 8: two of them would be my recommendation.

1858
01:32:10,373 --> 01:32:13,973
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, because the meat's quite lean, right, so it

1859
01:32:14,173 --> 01:32:16,453
Speaker 3: is not very late, so the cosper itself is not

1860
01:32:16,573 --> 01:32:19,133
Speaker 3: going to be super delicious. Do you sort of need

1861
01:32:19,253 --> 01:32:20,693
Speaker 3: the spices to kind of.

1862
01:32:22,173 --> 01:32:25,653
Speaker 8: A bit of a George up? Yes, yeah, very much so.

1863
01:32:25,853 --> 01:32:27,133
Speaker 8: But that's so scrummy.

1864
01:32:27,333 --> 01:32:30,173
Speaker 3: Yeah no, that sounds great. Any special fines on Maple Street?

1865
01:32:31,413 --> 01:32:32,173
Speaker 8: Spill Wine.

1866
01:32:32,213 --> 01:32:35,133
Speaker 21: I was listening to your scenario last hour and Spill

1867
01:32:35,453 --> 01:32:39,653
Speaker 21: is such a chic neighborhood wine bar, a great spot

1868
01:32:39,733 --> 01:32:40,733
Speaker 21: for a tasting session.

1869
01:32:41,093 --> 01:32:42,373
Speaker 8: It was more like.

1870
01:32:42,453 --> 01:32:48,653
Speaker 21: An exploratory for me, Jack, because Spill showcases so many

1871
01:32:49,053 --> 01:32:54,453
Speaker 21: lesser known varietals from across Ossie, including their own wine.

1872
01:32:55,613 --> 01:32:58,973
Speaker 21: The fellow who heads it up really interesting story, Jamie Fleming.

1873
01:32:59,333 --> 01:33:02,693
Speaker 21: He was a finalist on Mastership Australia, but man, it's

1874
01:33:02,733 --> 01:33:03,373
Speaker 21: a small world.

1875
01:33:03,453 --> 01:33:05,333
Speaker 8: He used to work at the Blue.

1876
01:33:05,173 --> 01:33:09,933
Speaker 21: Pub in myth Fit because he's a hard core snowboarder,

1877
01:33:10,373 --> 01:33:12,773
Speaker 21: so we spent a lot of time talking about Methvin

1878
01:33:12,973 --> 01:33:16,653
Speaker 21: and the new hot pools. But he does this really

1879
01:33:16,813 --> 01:33:21,293
Speaker 21: good pet nut. Now, for some weird reason, Ozzies love

1880
01:33:21,493 --> 01:33:24,893
Speaker 21: pet nut. It's not so common in New Zealand. But

1881
01:33:25,013 --> 01:33:29,893
Speaker 21: it's like a very light summary sparkling, similar to prosecco,

1882
01:33:30,013 --> 01:33:33,773
Speaker 21: but with less sugar and lower alcohol and spill. Make

1883
01:33:33,853 --> 01:33:37,253
Speaker 21: their own pet nut from the Deo grapes, which are Portuguese.

1884
01:33:37,653 --> 01:33:40,973
Speaker 21: But anyway, the thing about it, it's like the Sunshine

1885
01:33:41,133 --> 01:33:45,333
Speaker 21: Coast and Glass. You get this taste of burned pineapple

1886
01:33:45,413 --> 01:33:46,133
Speaker 21: in their bubbles.

1887
01:33:46,173 --> 01:33:46,973
Speaker 8: It is so good.

1888
01:33:48,173 --> 01:33:52,053
Speaker 3: So for sweet snacks. What makes yin Dina so distinctive.

1889
01:33:53,213 --> 01:33:57,253
Speaker 21: Two irresistible stops the Budroom Ginger Factory. They are the

1890
01:33:57,413 --> 01:34:01,413
Speaker 21: world's biggest producer of confectionery ginger and oh my god,

1891
01:34:01,493 --> 01:34:05,013
Speaker 21: you can go crazy in their store. But their chocolate

1892
01:34:05,133 --> 01:34:09,613
Speaker 21: ginger balls they are particularly addictive, as is the ginger

1893
01:34:09,693 --> 01:34:14,133
Speaker 21: biscuit and cinnamon gelatto right across the road. After binging

1894
01:34:14,213 --> 01:34:18,453
Speaker 21: on the ginger balls, I headed to Nutworks, and these

1895
01:34:18,613 --> 01:34:23,693
Speaker 21: guys are one of Australia's biggest macedamia nut processes. They

1896
01:34:23,773 --> 01:34:27,213
Speaker 21: top a lot of the mac nuts and very tasty coating.

1897
01:34:27,333 --> 01:34:33,053
Speaker 21: So I had ridiculous creations Jack like Lemington chocolate Macedamia's

1898
01:34:33,693 --> 01:34:39,733
Speaker 21: and maple pancake Max and the crunchy hickory Macedamias very

1899
01:34:39,853 --> 01:34:42,653
Speaker 21: popular with the Americans. They love anything hickory, don't they

1900
01:34:42,733 --> 01:34:47,653
Speaker 21: the USA. So yeah, lots of free tastings at Nutworks,

1901
01:34:47,773 --> 01:34:48,733
Speaker 21: that's a do not miss.

1902
01:34:48,933 --> 01:34:52,853
Speaker 3: I think the Macedamia it's a close call between it

1903
01:34:52,893 --> 01:34:54,453
Speaker 3: and the cashew, but it might just be the king

1904
01:34:54,493 --> 01:34:56,813
Speaker 3: of nuts when it comes to confectionery at the very least.

1905
01:34:57,293 --> 01:34:59,373
Speaker 8: Yeah, I think so, I'd agree, so good.

1906
01:34:59,533 --> 01:35:02,413
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, just got very high fat content, I think

1907
01:35:02,493 --> 01:35:06,293
Speaker 3: your macedamia, which it does. So what about a standout

1908
01:35:06,493 --> 01:35:09,613
Speaker 3: dining destination for a real splash a special occasion?

1909
01:35:10,693 --> 01:35:10,933
Speaker 7: Yeaw.

1910
01:35:11,093 --> 01:35:16,213
Speaker 21: I checked out a new opening called Alsawa Estate. The

1911
01:35:16,333 --> 01:35:19,373
Speaker 21: actual property is not new because it's like this private

1912
01:35:19,453 --> 01:35:23,253
Speaker 21: botanical garden. It used to be a wedding venue. Now

1913
01:35:23,373 --> 01:35:28,333
Speaker 21: it's opened a restaurant wrapped in all of this botanical finery.

1914
01:35:28,693 --> 01:35:32,373
Speaker 21: They have a colossal edible garden. So their dishes are

1915
01:35:32,733 --> 01:35:37,813
Speaker 21: very you know, hyper local. They deepened that garden for

1916
01:35:37,933 --> 01:35:41,173
Speaker 21: their lunches. I had the most amazing lunch, feasting on

1917
01:35:41,333 --> 01:35:46,373
Speaker 21: things like gingerbraized short ribs, and they served this whole

1918
01:35:46,453 --> 01:35:50,453
Speaker 21: roasted pumpkin jack which was filled with a central well

1919
01:35:51,133 --> 01:35:55,053
Speaker 21: of smoked yogurt and chili jam. I would like to

1920
01:35:55,173 --> 01:35:58,413
Speaker 21: try that at home. I'm sure it's doable, but got

1921
01:35:58,453 --> 01:36:03,533
Speaker 21: it was good. So Alsawa definitely add to your ticklus.

1922
01:36:03,253 --> 01:36:07,373
Speaker 3: So the yogurt is smoked with the chili jam, So

1923
01:36:07,453 --> 01:36:09,773
Speaker 3: the yogurt to smoke and then it has chili jam

1924
01:36:09,853 --> 01:36:12,373
Speaker 3: on the side. Is the kind of separate components.

1925
01:36:12,493 --> 01:36:15,413
Speaker 21: Yeah, oh man correct, and then it's all put in

1926
01:36:15,533 --> 01:36:18,853
Speaker 21: like a central pocket of the pump so like, oh,

1927
01:36:19,093 --> 01:36:20,133
Speaker 21: it's just extraordinary.

1928
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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that sounds so good. And you're if you're

1929
01:36:24,013 --> 01:36:27,373
Speaker 3: in Malulabar, we would be good for seafood with a

1930
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Speaker 3: bit of a difference of an edge.

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Speaker 21: Well, yeah, I would really recommend you make a booking

1932
01:36:31,773 --> 01:36:35,493
Speaker 21: with Saltwater Echo Tours. So these guys are an indigenous

1933
01:36:35,573 --> 01:36:39,093
Speaker 21: owned and operated cruise company and they take to the

1934
01:36:39,173 --> 01:36:44,053
Speaker 21: waters around Malula Bar with a bush tucker cruise. So

1935
01:36:44,533 --> 01:36:48,213
Speaker 21: it blends ocean bounty think malula, bar prawns and so forth,

1936
01:36:48,533 --> 01:36:52,933
Speaker 21: with traditional native ingredients, lots of native botanicals. And I

1937
01:36:53,133 --> 01:36:57,013
Speaker 21: just grazed through so many awesome combos like fresh fish

1938
01:36:57,093 --> 01:37:01,653
Speaker 21: tacos with wattle seed mayo, that was a first for me,

1939
01:37:03,373 --> 01:37:07,013
Speaker 21: smoked barrel mundy with pig face, and sat in ash.

1940
01:37:06,973 --> 01:37:09,613
Speaker 3: Lily pilly with pig face.

1941
01:37:10,693 --> 01:37:11,573
Speaker 8: Yeah, pig face.

1942
01:37:11,773 --> 01:37:12,253
Speaker 4: Yeah, So.

1943
01:37:13,813 --> 01:37:18,613
Speaker 21: The face, well, it's a it's a great little backstory. Yes,

1944
01:37:18,693 --> 01:37:21,173
Speaker 21: sometimes you do see that sort of resemblance, but it's

1945
01:37:21,293 --> 01:37:25,413
Speaker 21: like a fruit pig face, which is like a groundcover

1946
01:37:25,653 --> 01:37:30,173
Speaker 21: producers and the fruit itself, pig face fruit tastes like

1947
01:37:30,293 --> 01:37:39,413
Speaker 21: a strawberry dipped in salt, really crazy ingredients, and you

1948
01:37:39,453 --> 01:37:42,533
Speaker 21: can go Lily pily berries are kind of like a

1949
01:37:42,693 --> 01:37:45,573
Speaker 21: cross between the taste of an apple and a cherry.

1950
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Speaker 8: So that was slatted on.

1951
01:37:48,453 --> 01:37:50,213
Speaker 21: This Bear of Monday as well, but it was just

1952
01:37:50,613 --> 01:37:53,773
Speaker 21: a real revelation, the Boshtaker cruise.

1953
01:37:54,013 --> 01:37:55,333
Speaker 8: Yeah, what a name.

1954
01:37:55,573 --> 01:38:00,453
Speaker 3: Pig face. Yeah, No, it looks it looks interesting.

1955
01:38:02,453 --> 01:38:04,333
Speaker 6: It is, yeah, very good.

1956
01:38:05,133 --> 01:38:06,973
Speaker 3: Yeah, it sounds sounds amazing, sound like you had the

1957
01:38:07,013 --> 01:38:10,133
Speaker 3: best time and like you said, so good so many good,

1958
01:38:10,253 --> 01:38:12,893
Speaker 3: delicious sounding options. Thank you very much, Mike. We're going

1959
01:38:12,973 --> 01:38:15,653
Speaker 3: to make sure that all of Mike's tips for eating

1960
01:38:15,733 --> 01:38:17,973
Speaker 3: and sipping your way around the Sunshine Coast up on

1961
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Speaker 3: the News Talks website. Don't forget that everything from our

1962
01:38:20,493 --> 01:38:23,133
Speaker 3: show goes up there News Talks. He'd be dot co

1963
01:38:23,333 --> 01:38:26,853
Speaker 3: dot zed Ford slash Jack. That is the fastest way

1964
01:38:26,933 --> 01:38:29,093
Speaker 3: to get to our show page and find everything that

1965
01:38:29,133 --> 01:38:31,733
Speaker 3: we've talked about on the radio. And it's just got eleven.

1966
01:38:31,493 --> 01:38:37,573
Speaker 6: Thirty getting your weekends started.

1967
01:38:37,773 --> 01:38:42,933
Speaker 1: It's Saturday morning with Jack team on News TALKSB where you're.

1968
01:38:42,893 --> 01:38:44,053
Speaker 5: Going on there.

1969
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Speaker 16: Than a ready, you're the mumpy.

1970
01:38:50,933 --> 01:38:52,573
Speaker 6: It is, you know I can take it.

1971
01:38:53,733 --> 01:38:55,933
Speaker 3: Doning indeed, so many days so.

1972
01:38:56,173 --> 01:39:02,733
Speaker 6: Like and see you work in Kisses though we couple

1973
01:39:02,813 --> 01:39:05,053
Speaker 6: with her on the show.

1974
01:39:06,453 --> 01:39:08,973
Speaker 3: Twelve on new STIGs V. That's Justin Bieber and from

1975
01:39:09,013 --> 01:39:15,013
Speaker 3: one half throb to another to get a moment there.

1976
01:39:15,333 --> 01:39:19,173
Speaker 3: Jason Pine is with us now. He's of course taking

1977
01:39:19,213 --> 01:39:21,533
Speaker 3: over the reins on new stiks eDV with weekend spport

1978
01:39:21,613 --> 01:39:26,173
Speaker 3: this afternoon. Big news in the in the Rugby broadcast

1979
01:39:26,813 --> 01:39:30,933
Speaker 3: deal world this week Piney indeed, yeah, with Rugby going

1980
01:39:31,013 --> 01:39:33,413
Speaker 3: to be shared across TV and ZED and Sky, so

1981
01:39:33,533 --> 01:39:35,653
Speaker 3: freeawear options as well as the paid options for the

1982
01:39:35,693 --> 01:39:38,493
Speaker 3: all backs, etcetera. So talk us through how you were

1983
01:39:38,533 --> 01:39:41,733
Speaker 3: thinking about the TV rights. Yeah, well the Frediweb. It's great.

1984
01:39:42,013 --> 01:39:44,933
Speaker 22: I think all sporting organizations now realize they have to

1985
01:39:44,973 --> 01:39:47,653
Speaker 22: have some sort of freeware element in their broadcast because

1986
01:39:48,253 --> 01:39:50,813
Speaker 22: you know, to get exposure across as wide an audience

1987
01:39:50,813 --> 01:39:53,653
Speaker 22: as possible is important. So they've ticked that box with

1988
01:39:54,293 --> 01:39:56,853
Speaker 22: NPC far Apart, MCUP and Hartland Championship going to be

1989
01:39:56,893 --> 01:39:59,533
Speaker 22: available free to wear, which is great. The other really

1990
01:39:59,613 --> 01:40:01,533
Speaker 22: interesting part of this broadcast deal is the fact that

1991
01:40:01,653 --> 01:40:04,133
Speaker 22: there are five All Blacks tests and five Black Fern's

1992
01:40:04,173 --> 01:40:06,893
Speaker 22: tests across the five years, so effectively one a year

1993
01:40:07,253 --> 01:40:10,813
Speaker 22: that sit outside the broadcast agreement. So New Zealand and

1994
01:40:10,853 --> 01:40:13,773
Speaker 22: Rugby will negotiate with not just Sky but others as

1995
01:40:13,813 --> 01:40:16,973
Speaker 22: well for the right to broadcast those games. So it's

1996
01:40:17,533 --> 01:40:20,773
Speaker 22: something we've never seen before whenever Sky have been involved

1997
01:40:21,053 --> 01:40:25,093
Speaker 22: and Spark you know, briefly all All Blacks and Blackfn's

1998
01:40:25,093 --> 01:40:28,213
Speaker 22: tests were included in the agreements outside now and I

1999
01:40:28,293 --> 01:40:30,453
Speaker 22: think this has to be a revenue play for New

2000
01:40:30,493 --> 01:40:33,293
Speaker 22: Zealand Rugby, because we know the Sky Dealers is quite

2001
01:40:33,333 --> 01:40:35,093
Speaker 22: a reduction on the last time. The last one was

2002
01:40:35,133 --> 01:40:38,173
Speaker 22: one hundred and eleven million. This one's around seventy five

2003
01:40:38,533 --> 01:40:40,773
Speaker 22: from all reports. So TV and Z will make up

2004
01:40:40,813 --> 01:40:42,893
Speaker 22: some of that with what they pay for free to

2005
01:40:42,933 --> 01:40:45,933
Speaker 22: wear rights, but they're still a shortfall. So New Zealand Rugby,

2006
01:40:45,933 --> 01:40:47,973
Speaker 22: I mean, who do they I presume they'll speak to Sky,

2007
01:40:48,413 --> 01:40:50,253
Speaker 22: but they'll also talk to I mean, who knows are

2008
01:40:50,293 --> 01:40:52,893
Speaker 22: we going to be watching the All Blacks on Netflix? Jack,

2009
01:40:52,973 --> 01:40:56,733
Speaker 22: I don't know, we might, So how do you even price? Yeah,

2010
01:40:56,813 --> 01:41:00,373
Speaker 22: it's not at all, It's not inconceivable at all, I

2011
01:41:00,453 --> 01:41:03,493
Speaker 22: actually think, I mean, it's a real sign of the times.

2012
01:41:03,573 --> 01:41:07,373
Speaker 22: I actually think New Zealand Rugby, at first glance, at

2013
01:41:07,413 --> 01:41:12,893
Speaker 22: first Blush have played this reasonably well. Seems like there's

2014
01:41:12,893 --> 01:41:14,533
Speaker 22: a bit of a balance there. I mean the other thing,

2015
01:41:14,573 --> 01:41:18,733
Speaker 22: by having those games available outside of the broadcast deal,

2016
01:41:19,253 --> 01:41:21,453
Speaker 22: you know, there is a potential I suppose. I mean,

2017
01:41:21,773 --> 01:41:24,133
Speaker 22: you know, I don't know about the state of the

2018
01:41:24,693 --> 01:41:27,453
Speaker 22: state of the free to wear broadcasters coffers at the moment,

2019
01:41:27,493 --> 01:41:29,693
Speaker 22: but I suppose that there will be an opportunity for

2020
01:41:29,853 --> 01:41:32,133
Speaker 22: more people to see those games there might otherwise have

2021
01:41:32,213 --> 01:41:35,293
Speaker 22: seen them if it's behind you know, the Skype paywall.

2022
01:41:35,653 --> 01:41:36,253
Speaker 3: What they have to do.

2023
01:41:36,333 --> 01:41:38,933
Speaker 22: I think New Zealand Rugby is balance our eyeballs against

2024
01:41:38,973 --> 01:41:41,893
Speaker 22: dollars in that regard. They want as many people watching

2025
01:41:41,973 --> 01:41:44,853
Speaker 22: rugby as possible, but they know that broadcasters a revenue

2026
01:41:44,893 --> 01:41:49,013
Speaker 22: stream for them. The All Blacks tests outside of the agreement.

2027
01:41:49,133 --> 01:41:52,213
Speaker 22: That feels like an overseas played to me, I'm not so.

2028
01:41:52,493 --> 01:41:54,813
Speaker 22: I mean, I'm not so sure it'll be a TV

2029
01:41:54,893 --> 01:41:58,133
Speaker 22: and Z coming to the bargaining table. As I said,

2030
01:41:58,373 --> 01:42:01,533
Speaker 22: how do you even price up a ago? I'm sure

2031
01:42:01,533 --> 01:42:03,093
Speaker 22: there are experts around the world who'll be able to

2032
01:42:03,093 --> 01:42:03,973
Speaker 22: help them on that sort of thing.

2033
01:42:04,013 --> 01:42:05,013
Speaker 3: But we'll go both sides.

2034
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Speaker 22: After midday David Kirk, chair of the board, leads us

2035
01:42:07,813 --> 01:42:10,773
Speaker 22: off and Gary Burchett, who heads up the sport at

2036
01:42:10,813 --> 01:42:13,453
Speaker 22: sky Sport, he's ahead of sport contents are going to

2037
01:42:13,533 --> 01:42:16,053
Speaker 22: join us. So how happy are both of them about

2038
01:42:16,133 --> 01:42:19,413
Speaker 22: what's transpired here? And look, I'm sure people have a

2039
01:42:19,493 --> 01:42:20,733
Speaker 22: bit to say as well. I think the free to

2040
01:42:20,773 --> 01:42:23,893
Speaker 22: wear is great. You know that NPC and Farah Parma

2041
01:42:23,933 --> 01:42:25,453
Speaker 22: Cup are going to be back on free where I

2042
01:42:25,493 --> 01:42:26,573
Speaker 22: think that's a major win for.

2043
01:42:26,653 --> 01:42:27,053
Speaker 6: All of us.

2044
01:42:27,173 --> 01:42:31,493
Speaker 3: Absolutely, and you're celebrating the latest All Bleck centurion. Yeah,

2045
01:42:31,853 --> 01:42:32,933
Speaker 3: Cody Taylor. What a player.

2046
01:42:33,013 --> 01:42:35,853
Speaker 22: He's been a one hundred test matches for him. Only

2047
01:42:36,053 --> 01:42:38,653
Speaker 22: thirteen other players have done it, so he becomes number

2048
01:42:38,693 --> 01:42:41,573
Speaker 22: fourteen and a very exclusive club. So I want to get,

2049
01:42:41,693 --> 01:42:44,373
Speaker 22: you know, tributes to Cody Taylor, not just from the audience,

2050
01:42:44,413 --> 01:42:46,413
Speaker 22: but also a couple of his former teammates. White Crocket's

2051
01:42:46,453 --> 01:42:47,773
Speaker 22: going to join us. He packed down and about a

2052
01:42:47,853 --> 01:42:51,373
Speaker 22: million scrums alongside Cody Taylor for the Crusaders and the

2053
01:42:51,413 --> 01:42:54,133
Speaker 22: All Blacks Matt Todd as well. And yeah, other bits

2054
01:42:54,173 --> 01:42:57,973
Speaker 22: and pieces too, including this afternoon a chat from the

2055
01:42:58,013 --> 01:43:02,013
Speaker 22: Australian side of the Tasman about this netball exodus. Yeah,

2056
01:43:02,213 --> 01:43:04,693
Speaker 22: Chack the number of players. So we're leaving New Zealand

2057
01:43:04,733 --> 01:43:06,373
Speaker 22: to go and play in Australia. How do they feel

2058
01:43:06,373 --> 01:43:08,653
Speaker 22: about that in Australia. I wonder whether they feel as

2059
01:43:08,653 --> 01:43:11,013
Speaker 22: though we're sort of, you know, barging in. But we'll

2060
01:43:11,013 --> 01:43:12,613
Speaker 22: get a we'll get a view on that from across the.

2061
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Speaker 3: Team's interesting, there will be intriguing. One final thought for you,

2062
01:43:15,973 --> 01:43:19,493
Speaker 3: Pioney I reckon Chris Wood is still not being celebrated

2063
01:43:19,573 --> 01:43:21,573
Speaker 3: nearly enough. The fact that he made the Players Associate

2064
01:43:22,213 --> 01:43:26,853
Speaker 3: Players Association EPL Team of the Year is just a

2065
01:43:27,093 --> 01:43:28,453
Speaker 3: ridiculous achievement.

2066
01:43:29,933 --> 01:43:32,493
Speaker 22: Post during the week of home standing alongside Mohammed Salah

2067
01:43:32,613 --> 01:43:33,853
Speaker 22: in Virgil Vanadis.

2068
01:43:34,453 --> 01:43:37,173
Speaker 3: That's quite crazy. It's like, here's a guy from Hamilton

2069
01:43:37,293 --> 01:43:40,253
Speaker 3: who's just standing up there with the best footballers in

2070
01:43:40,453 --> 01:43:45,533
Speaker 3: the world. I just it's crazy. Yeah, it's hard to Yeah,

2071
01:43:45,533 --> 01:43:47,973
Speaker 3: I just have to watch myself. Yeah, it is certainly

2072
01:43:48,093 --> 01:43:50,653
Speaker 3: is all right, looking forward to this afternoon. Thank you sir.

2073
01:43:50,733 --> 01:43:52,773
Speaker 3: We will let you go and get get yourself sworded.

2074
01:43:52,853 --> 01:43:55,293
Speaker 3: Weekend sport kicking off right after the midday news. Don't forget,

2075
01:43:55,333 --> 01:43:58,253
Speaker 3: of course, tomorrow morning live coverage of the All Blacks

2076
01:43:58,573 --> 01:44:01,693
Speaker 3: versus Argentina. Elliott Smith will have the call alongside former

2077
01:44:01,733 --> 01:44:04,533
Speaker 3: All Black and strawng Coverage begins at nine o'clock, kick

2078
01:44:04,573 --> 01:44:06,493
Speaker 3: off at ten past nine. Right now it's twenty two

2079
01:44:06,573 --> 01:44:08,813
Speaker 3: to twelve. We've got that new music from Lave for

2080
01:44:08,973 --> 01:44:11,893
Speaker 3: you before midday and next now, next up your book

2081
01:44:11,933 --> 01:44:12,933
Speaker 3: picks for this weekend.

2082
01:44:14,213 --> 01:44:18,413
Speaker 1: Saturday Morning with Jack Team Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio

2083
01:44:18,733 --> 01:44:20,173
Speaker 1: powered by News Talks EDB.

2084
01:44:21,413 --> 01:44:25,293
Speaker 3: Tweeter twelve on News Talks EDB. Joan Nesbo is back

2085
01:44:25,333 --> 01:44:27,533
Speaker 3: with a brand new thriller. This is a standalone, so

2086
01:44:27,613 --> 01:44:29,333
Speaker 3: you don't need to have read previous ones to keep

2087
01:44:29,413 --> 01:44:32,493
Speaker 3: up with the storyline. It's called Wolf Hour. Our book

2088
01:44:32,533 --> 01:44:34,653
Speaker 3: reviewer Katherine Rains is here with her thoughts on what

2089
01:44:34,733 --> 01:44:35,173
Speaker 3: do you reckon?

2090
01:44:35,293 --> 01:44:41,613
Speaker 11: Catherine, Look, it's good as you say. He's Joanispo's kind

2091
01:44:41,653 --> 01:44:44,693
Speaker 11: of a very prolific author. He is a Norwegian author,

2092
01:44:45,093 --> 01:44:48,413
Speaker 11: but Wolf In the standalone is actually set in America,

2093
01:44:48,613 --> 01:44:51,773
Speaker 11: or well actually precisely in Minneapolis, and it's got. While

2094
01:44:51,813 --> 01:44:54,773
Speaker 11: it's setting's not Norwegian, it's kind of retains many of

2095
01:44:54,853 --> 01:44:58,333
Speaker 11: his trademarks. And it starts in twenty sixteen, and it

2096
01:44:58,453 --> 01:45:01,933
Speaker 11: revolves around the serial killer and a disgraced detective, a

2097
01:45:02,013 --> 01:45:05,413
Speaker 11: guy called Bob As. And Detective As is an interesting

2098
01:45:05,453 --> 01:45:07,573
Speaker 11: guy's a bit of an anti hit zero. He's a rebel,

2099
01:45:07,653 --> 01:45:10,053
Speaker 11: he's a bit morally gray, and he has a good

2100
01:45:10,173 --> 01:45:13,413
Speaker 11: and healthy disregard for rules. But he's also struggling in

2101
01:45:13,493 --> 01:45:15,533
Speaker 11: his personal life to come to terms with the loss

2102
01:45:15,573 --> 01:45:18,453
Speaker 11: of his daughter and the breakdown of his marriage, and

2103
01:45:18,533 --> 01:45:20,533
Speaker 11: so he's making lots of wrong choices in life and

2104
01:45:20,573 --> 01:45:24,093
Speaker 11: attempts to find solutions. At the same time, there's this

2105
01:45:24,333 --> 01:45:27,933
Speaker 11: very sophisticated killer on the Prowler guy called Thomas Gomez,

2106
01:45:28,613 --> 01:45:31,733
Speaker 11: and you know, all the signs are pointing towards him

2107
01:45:32,013 --> 01:45:34,853
Speaker 11: when they thought it actually disappeared a number of years ago.

2108
01:45:35,613 --> 01:45:38,453
Speaker 11: And Ozdes really wants to solve this particular case and

2109
01:45:38,493 --> 01:45:40,373
Speaker 11: he keeps working on it, but he's taken off and

2110
01:45:40,453 --> 01:45:44,413
Speaker 11: suspended from duty and everything seems to be going on.

2111
01:45:44,853 --> 01:45:48,493
Speaker 11: And then there's the sniper who's on a mission of revenge,

2112
01:45:48,573 --> 01:45:50,893
Speaker 11: but he also wants to highlight the problem with America's

2113
01:45:50,973 --> 01:45:54,653
Speaker 11: very lacks gun control. So you flip between these third

2114
01:45:54,733 --> 01:45:58,373
Speaker 11: person viewpoints and Bob Ohs and several other characters in

2115
01:45:58,453 --> 01:46:00,973
Speaker 11: the first person viewpoint of the Murderer, which is a

2116
01:46:01,053 --> 01:46:03,453
Speaker 11: really interesting way to tell the story, and it's clever,

2117
01:46:04,173 --> 01:46:06,533
Speaker 11: and it didn't end how I would expect it, and

2118
01:46:06,653 --> 01:46:10,173
Speaker 11: it's a really interesting mix this book. It's a bit political,

2119
01:46:10,253 --> 01:46:12,613
Speaker 11: it's a bit gory, it's a bit sad in a

2120
01:46:12,813 --> 01:46:16,813
Speaker 11: really weird way. It's quite heartwarming as well, but yeah,

2121
01:46:16,933 --> 01:46:20,733
Speaker 11: it does retain those real Nesbo characteristics and how he

2122
01:46:20,813 --> 01:46:21,493
Speaker 11: tells a story.

2123
01:46:21,653 --> 01:46:24,453
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, great, that sounds fantastic. So that's Wolf Ower

2124
01:46:24,653 --> 01:46:27,493
Speaker 3: by Joan Nisbo. You've also read The Wasp Trap by

2125
01:46:27,613 --> 01:46:28,373
Speaker 3: Mark Edwards.

2126
01:46:29,493 --> 01:46:31,813
Speaker 11: So this is a story of six friends, Will who

2127
01:46:31,933 --> 01:46:35,293
Speaker 11: tells most of the story, Sophie Rohan, Theo, Georgia, and Lily,

2128
01:46:35,893 --> 01:46:38,453
Speaker 11: and they meet up after twenty five years to celebrate

2129
01:46:38,493 --> 01:46:41,293
Speaker 11: the life of their former professor, a guy called Sebastian

2130
01:46:41,333 --> 01:46:44,093
Speaker 11: Marlow and set in two thousand and four. They meet

2131
01:46:44,173 --> 01:46:47,213
Speaker 11: up at Theo and Georgina's very beautiful house and they

2132
01:46:47,293 --> 01:46:48,813
Speaker 11: realize that I've got a lot of catching up to

2133
01:46:48,853 --> 01:46:51,933
Speaker 11: do because they haven't seen each other since nineteen ninety nine,

2134
01:46:52,133 --> 01:46:55,693
Speaker 11: and back in ninety nine, they created this dating website together,

2135
01:46:56,413 --> 01:46:59,453
Speaker 11: but they also create within this website, created this test

2136
01:46:59,533 --> 01:47:03,493
Speaker 11: to identify psychopaths, and this questionnaire that they developed has

2137
01:47:03,533 --> 01:47:06,773
Speaker 11: turned into a tool known as the Wasp Trap. But

2138
01:47:06,893 --> 01:47:10,053
Speaker 11: as their night progresses in twenty twenty four, they found

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Speaker 11: themselves in this situation being held at gunpoint, and they

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Speaker 11: are informed that they must share their deepest and dark

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Speaker 11: secrets to the group or be picked off one by one.

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Speaker 11: And as they kind of Scramble. The book goes back

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Speaker 11: and forth to the past and the present day, and

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Speaker 11: their predicament comes very die and it's dark and it's clever,

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Speaker 11: and it's suspenseful, and you just kind of wonder how

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Speaker 11: well they know each other, and you kind of chills

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Speaker 11: down your spine and you've got no idea what's coming next.

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Speaker 11: And it's that real perfect lock room mystery with characters

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Speaker 11: all holding lots of secrets of their own right.

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Speaker 3: That sounds amazing cool. Okay, there's the Wasp Trap. Wasp

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Speaker 3: Trap by Mark Edwards. Catherine's first book was wolf Ower

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Speaker 3: by Jo NIE's Buy and both of those will be

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Speaker 3: on the News talks 'B website. Thank you, Catherine. New

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Speaker 3: music from Lave for you in a couple of minutes

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Speaker 3: right now. It's sixteen to twelve on News talks ZEDB.

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Speaker 2: Giving you the inside scoop on All you Need to

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Speaker 2: Know Saturday Morning with Jack Team News talks.

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Speaker 5: 'B, Beautifuy Fly on to Change clim Doom Old.

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Speaker 1: Clim Doom.

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Speaker 12: School.

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Speaker 3: That song is called Forget Me Not. It's by Lave.

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Speaker 3: She's got a new album called A Matter of Time.

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01:48:37,413 --> 01:48:41,133
Speaker 3: Interesting name given. It sort of feels like slightly timeless

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Speaker 3: music a kind of hard to pin down. Stelle Clifford

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Speaker 3: is our music review She's with us now, good morning.

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Speaker 8: Hello.

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Speaker 20: Don't you just feel like you're watching some old school

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Speaker 20: nineteen fifties movie, yeah, or something, or that Cinderellerie snow

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Speaker 20: White thing where you're out in the forest and the

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Speaker 20: birds are floating around.

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Speaker 3: Totally, it's all beautiful.

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Speaker 14: She's so clever.

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Speaker 20: I love this though, because there's this prettiness to it,

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Speaker 20: right in this flourishes of the orchestra and the strings.

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Speaker 20: But actually some of what she writes, the lyrics can

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Speaker 20: actually be quite dark, and it makes me think Grim

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Speaker 20: Brother's kind of fairy.

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Speaker 3: Tale for sure, like the old school ones before we.

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Speaker 20: Gave them nice endings. Yeah, yeah, so she's like that.

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Speaker 20: She said in a recent interview. My songs of self

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Speaker 20: reflection on this album aren't very hopeful. They're actually quite cynical.

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Speaker 20: But it's not the whole tone, you know, there's still

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Speaker 20: brightness about it, and there's somewhere. She's even teased on

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Speaker 20: her Instagram She's like, the only way to get through

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01:49:40,493 --> 01:49:42,253
Speaker 20: this song is to skip down the road, and it's

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Speaker 20: quite joyful, and I think that's the energy of the

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Speaker 20: music that's behind her voice as well. That song in particular,

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Speaker 20: Forget Me Not. I just think that really showcases the

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Speaker 20: control in her voice. Someone who has studied classical music

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Speaker 20: and jazz music, there's just something so magic about the

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Speaker 20: way they use their voices and their instruments too, Like

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Speaker 20: just the controllery here and there.

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Speaker 8: I'm like, far out.

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Speaker 20: That just actually blows my mind a little bit. Right

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Speaker 20: from the side of the album, Like I said, you're

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Speaker 20: in that kind of snow whitey sort of thing. But

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Speaker 20: then every now and then a lyric will drop. I

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Speaker 20: like that she sometimes just drops into her native tongue

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Speaker 20: and you almost don't realize until you really are listening

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Speaker 20: to what's going on. And there's a few swears that

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Speaker 20: she's randomly peppered in, maybe near the end of a song.

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Speaker 20: It just really kind of makes you go, wait, what

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Speaker 20: you're talking about. She worked with Aaron Desnow on some

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Speaker 20: of the songs on this album, so think Tate Racie Abrams.

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Speaker 20: So that's where that pop. So she does have she

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Speaker 20: does have interest, and she does have musicality that is

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Speaker 20: pop and she wanted, I guess, to bring that out

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Speaker 20: a little bit more and you hear that kind of

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Speaker 20: and the later songs of the album. There's quite a

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Speaker 20: few tracks on this, but I think someone more of

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Speaker 20: that pop vibe comes in that he's able to bring

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Speaker 20: to that. And she did say that she thinks he

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Speaker 20: helped her sort of get like a level of shine

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Speaker 20: and some speed and paste the music that she hasn't

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Speaker 20: necessarily always had or when you sit in that nineteen

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Speaker 20: fifties movie old school style, you can get quite swoony

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Speaker 20: and drifty and whimsical. But she wanted to bring it

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Speaker 20: some pace into some of the music that she's got,

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Speaker 20: So I think he actually does quite a good job

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01:51:24,413 --> 01:51:26,173
Speaker 20: on it. I think it kind of means when you

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01:51:26,253 --> 01:51:28,613
Speaker 20: hear some of the pop tracks, I mean, they're not

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Speaker 20: hugely too poppy, but they would be reminiscent I think

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Speaker 20: of Taylor Swift, and I think we've had someone like

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Speaker 20: Aaron work on that sort of thing. You know, that's

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Speaker 20: his style, right, So there's a little you can kind

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Speaker 20: of once you've heard it a few times, I think

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Speaker 20: you can kind of pick out the tracks that he's

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Speaker 20: probably worked with her on. There's a great song on

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Speaker 20: the album called Tough Luck, and there are some low

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Speaker 20: key Burns that I am so here for and the

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Speaker 20: lyrics on that out in a Cheetah who didn't cheat

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01:51:55,533 --> 01:51:58,933
Speaker 20: on her but chanted it on the girl before her. Look,

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01:51:58,973 --> 01:52:00,653
Speaker 20: it's just a real story.

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Speaker 8: You're like, what.

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Speaker 3: Give it to him?

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01:52:03,533 --> 01:52:03,693
Speaker 8: Yeah?

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01:52:03,733 --> 01:52:04,613
Speaker 3: Yeah, right, yeah yeah.

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Speaker 20: I love that she kind of follows rule what musicality is,

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Speaker 20: but not I mean, if you're going to blend classical

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Speaker 20: jazz and pop music, it feels like you're throwing a

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Speaker 20: whole lot up in the air and sort of seeing

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01:52:14,933 --> 01:52:16,693
Speaker 20: where it lands. So she says that she doesn't get

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01:52:16,773 --> 01:52:19,973
Speaker 20: too stuck in rules of how music's supposed to be

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01:52:20,373 --> 01:52:22,733
Speaker 20: if it sounds and feels right to her. Then with

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Speaker 20: this album in particular, she's had real confidence in saying,

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01:52:26,373 --> 01:52:28,293
Speaker 20: this is what my sound is, and this is what

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01:52:28,373 --> 01:52:31,173
Speaker 20: I'm playing with. And I actually really love that because,

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Speaker 20: I mean, jazz is a wonderful genre to be in.

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Speaker 20: It makes you want to dance, It makes this is

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Speaker 20: such beautiful imagery with that kind of music. I think,

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Speaker 20: so yeah, the way she does it, I mean, for

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01:52:43,893 --> 01:52:45,053
Speaker 20: if you get a chance to see any of her

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01:52:45,173 --> 01:52:49,173
Speaker 20: music videos that she's just released, they are very cinematic

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01:52:49,293 --> 01:52:53,293
Speaker 20: and just wonderful. I think I think she's really pushing

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Speaker 20: some boundaries, but also really finding her place and how

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Speaker 20: to mix all of those things that she loves and

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01:52:58,373 --> 01:52:59,933
Speaker 20: put them into one thing. If you want to know

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01:53:00,053 --> 01:53:03,253
Speaker 20: what classical jazz and pop sound like together, their lave

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01:53:03,493 --> 01:53:09,813
Speaker 20: is your le a very Icelandic way to say that.

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01:53:09,973 --> 01:53:13,413
Speaker 20: Of course there is a you sound, but I can't

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01:53:13,493 --> 01:53:14,773
Speaker 20: quite get it, and it makes me want to say

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01:53:14,933 --> 01:53:16,453
Speaker 20: like like Marty instead.

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01:53:16,333 --> 01:53:18,933
Speaker 3: I've done enough job with pronunciation, poor old side free

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01:53:18,973 --> 01:53:21,013
Speaker 3: to stay. I called sea free this morning, so you know,

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01:53:21,173 --> 01:53:24,613
Speaker 3: it's just if you're looking for an Icelandic pronunciation, you've

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01:53:24,653 --> 01:53:25,773
Speaker 3: come to the wrong place, I'm afraid.

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Speaker 20: Oh yeah, And maybe don't look at it. Just don't

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Speaker 20: look at how it's written, I think is the best way,

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Speaker 20: and just get it in your head to say leve

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Speaker 20: and then you'll very good.

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Speaker 3: Because you know what my take is. And I feel

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Speaker 3: very like it's very rare that for someone like this,

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01:53:39,973 --> 01:53:42,413
Speaker 3: who's a little bit not off Broadway. But you know,

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Speaker 3: it's very unusual for me to have to have heard

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01:53:46,413 --> 01:53:49,013
Speaker 3: of her before we played an album. We have played

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01:53:49,013 --> 01:53:50,773
Speaker 3: a couple of songs of hers before, but you know,

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01:53:51,773 --> 01:53:54,293
Speaker 3: I feel like it's perfect music. For if you've got

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01:53:54,373 --> 01:53:56,813
Speaker 3: someone coming out for dinner or something and you want

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01:53:56,853 --> 01:53:57,893
Speaker 3: to seem cool and interesting.

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Speaker 20: Look, I think that's because that's some discussion where they're like.

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Speaker 3: What's this old, like don't you know? Don't you know

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01:54:04,733 --> 01:54:07,613
Speaker 3: that you are? And you feel all like you really

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01:54:07,693 --> 01:54:10,293
Speaker 3: know exactly, and you're like, yeah, yeah, like I think

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01:54:10,333 --> 01:54:12,133
Speaker 3: I read somewhere that she's classically trained.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, but it is, it is.

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01:54:14,053 --> 01:54:15,253
Speaker 3: It is interesting music.

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Speaker 1: It is.

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Speaker 20: It's really interesting music. And I think there is that

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01:54:18,573 --> 01:54:21,293
Speaker 20: thing that actually you don't look it's beautiful for background,

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01:54:21,413 --> 01:54:23,013
Speaker 20: but really try and sit with it so you can

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01:54:23,053 --> 01:54:25,973
Speaker 20: hear some of her storytelling and lyrics because they're kind

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01:54:25,973 --> 01:54:27,933
Speaker 20: of funny, like she does have that sort of dark

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01:54:28,013 --> 01:54:31,093
Speaker 20: wish about her. Yeah, and I think again that gives

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01:54:31,093 --> 01:54:33,813
Speaker 20: you that interest piece. So look, you're a conversation starter

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01:54:33,853 --> 01:54:34,653
Speaker 20: at your dinner parties.

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Speaker 3: Jacks, Yeah, exactly.

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01:54:36,093 --> 01:54:37,293
Speaker 20: Yeah, that's got to going on, you know.

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01:54:37,413 --> 01:54:39,613
Speaker 3: All I wanted just for someone to think that I'm

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Speaker 3: cool and interesting, you know, So this is perfect. No,

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01:54:42,533 --> 01:54:43,693
Speaker 3: that sounds really good. So what did you give a

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Speaker 3: matter of time.

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Speaker 20: As an eight out of teen for me?

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Speaker 3: I really enjoyed it. Yeah, very good. Hey, thanks so yeah, cool,

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01:54:49,293 --> 01:54:50,613
Speaker 3: all right, we'll have a bit more of a listening

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Speaker 3: in a few minutes. That is a Stelle Clifford our

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Speaker 3: music viewer eight out of teen for a matter of

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Speaker 3: time by Lave, it's seven to twelve. On News Talks,

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Speaker 3: you'd be.

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Speaker 6: Cracking.

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Speaker 2: Way to start your Saturday Saturday morning with Jack d

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Speaker 2: News Talk V.

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Speaker 3: It is racing towards Miday on Newstalks HEB, which means

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Speaker 3: I'm getting turfed out and Jason Pine is taking over.

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Speaker 3: He's counting down to the start of weekend sport for

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Speaker 3: this afternoon, looking at that new Rugby TV rights deal.

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Speaker 3: Cody Taylor becoming the latest All Blacks Centurion when he

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Speaker 3: kicks off tomorrow against Argentina and Buenos Ailre is. Of

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Speaker 3: course News Talks HEB is gonna have coverage of that game.

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Speaker 3: You know that coverage starts at nine o'clock tomorrow morning.

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Speaker 3: producer Libby for doing all the buttons and dials setting

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Speaker 3: everything up for us this week until next Saturday. Go

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Speaker 3: the All Blacks go, the Warriors go, the Black Ferns.

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Speaker 3: We're going to leave you with leave. Her new album

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Speaker 3: is just a matter of time. This song is called

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Speaker 3: silver Lining, See you next week.

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Speaker 5: The silver lieis a be there, The silver Line.

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Speaker 6: Names are there. We for more from Saturday Morning with

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Speaker 6: Jack Tame.

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