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Speaker 2: That'd be good morning. It is six after five. Great

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Speaker 2: The'd Be nine two ninety two is the number to text.

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Speaker 2: This is not necessarily a labor issue. This math problem

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Speaker 2: What did these drugs do.

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Speaker 8: So over the last fifteen years or so, Not that

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Speaker 8: So we don't use traditional chemotherapies. What we use are

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Speaker 8: And so these two drugs are in that group, and

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Speaker 8: And so these two medications have been around for a while,

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Speaker 2: And they must be used. Therefore, they must be used together.

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Speaker 8: So this is quite a change and it really is

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Speaker 2: I had a look at this this morning. It looked

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Speaker 2: First first time I've ever heard any doctor tell me that, Gareth,

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Speaker 5: A man on a constant self aggrandizing and self enriching hustle,

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Speaker 2: how are you doing good? Thank you? So this is

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Speaker 1: edition with Ryan Bridge and one Route Love where you live?

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Speaker 2: Four away from sixties Topsy'd be coming up well Hester

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Speaker 2: talk about your health data break. Another day, another health

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Speaker 2: data breach as well. Ryan, good morning. This is on

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Speaker 2: the issue to Kaha Stadium and the booze over Anzac weekend. Ryan,

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Speaker 2: here said from Nick morning Neck. The Anzac's fought for freedom.

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Speaker 2: The banning of drinking past midnight is not freedom. Very good, Nick,

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Speaker 2: We start with Claire and christ Church clear, good morning,

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Speaker 2: good morning. You've got fraud at this rugby club and

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Speaker 10: Nikola Flint's become a name very well known around christ

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Speaker 2: All right, how's your weather?

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Speaker 10: Claire should be fine today. Gusty northeasterlies and twenty one degrees.

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Speaker 2: Good morning, morning Andrew little were we raising him?

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Speaker 11: Okay, so Leaver's Aschevell. She the Labor Parties Wellington Issues spokesperson.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely And the answer is about as clear as your

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Speaker 2: water max. How exactly your weather today?

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Speaker 11: Yeah, well it's fine today with northerleast twenty two the Hey,

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Speaker 2: Day, good morning, never good morning. What's this about students

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Speaker 12: Yes, now, look there's the student groups asking for increased

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Speaker 12: Of course they want it to be free, but would

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Speaker 2: Oh fantastic, So.

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Speaker 12: Let's see what happens there. At least they had some ideas.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I mean are they ideas or they just

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Speaker 12: Apart from some afternoon cloud twenty six twenty six is

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Speaker 12: the high today here in Auckland.

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Speaker 2: Back up and the hate thanks Neva. It is nineteen

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Speaker 2: minutes away. From six FedEx. I told you yesterday that

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Speaker 2: they're going to start. People are going to start sewing left,

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Speaker 2: Supreme Court ruling on tariffs, well it started FedEx yesterday

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Speaker 2: while overnight they are suing the US government. Haven't said

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Speaker 2: how much yet, but I can tell you that the

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Speaker 2: total kitty, the total amount of levies that the Trump

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Speaker 2: administration has taken as one hundred and seventy five billion

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Speaker 2: US dollars. So FedEx wants a cut, they want a

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Speaker 2: full refund, thank you very much for all the illegal

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Speaker 2: tariffs that were collected thus far. Because taxes and tariffs

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Speaker 2: are the job of Congress, not the job of the

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Speaker 2: Let's go back to the Trade Minister in the UK,

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Speaker 2: Chris Bryant having a real crack at the former Prince Andrew.

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Speaker 5: I remember him coming to visit the secredets in Tona Pandi.

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Speaker 5: They were absolutely delighted and excited to meet a member

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Speaker 5: of the royal family. But he insisted on coming by

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Speaker 5: helicopter Uni like his mother who came twice to the

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Speaker 5: Ronda and always came by car. He left early and

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Speaker 5: he showed next to note interest in the young people.

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Speaker 5: That is, of course, mister speaker, not a crime, nor

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Speaker 5: is arrogance. Fortunately.

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Speaker 2: I suppose let's go to Gavin Gray at UK Chorus

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Speaker 2: Bond and Kevin, good morning.

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Speaker 13: Hi there, Ryan, yep. It's certainly been one of those days.

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Speaker 13: Andrew Man Batan Windsor described as rude, arrogant and entitled

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Speaker 13: in the Commons, and in the last half hour MPs

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Speaker 13: have now back to motion calling for the release of

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Speaker 13: all the documents on how Andrew Maunt Batman Winsor was

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Speaker 13: appointed as a UK Trade Envoy, of course when he

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Speaker 13: was Prince Andrew. And this is particularly interesting because it's

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Speaker 13: been reported that there are documents which say that Lord

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Speaker 13: Peter Mandelson, who used to be the UK Ambassador to

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Speaker 13: America until the Epstein files got him sacked, there are

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Speaker 13: suggestions that he another friend of Epstein, also was weighing

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Speaker 13: in saying, oh no, Andrew's a really good trade envoy.

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Speaker 13: You need to keep him when questions were being asked

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Speaker 13: about how useful he was as a trade end boy.

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Speaker 13: So two friends of Epstein, Prince Andrews he was and

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Speaker 13: now Lord Manilson, both arrested, both accused of misconduct and

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Speaker 13: public office, and both now arrested but released, and they

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Speaker 13: are effectively now awaiting further investigations about what's going on.

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Speaker 2: So Mandelssohn potentially backing up Andrew in the face of

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Speaker 2: a becklash. What about those charges you mentioned that both

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Speaker 2: being arrested obviously, But have we had any any update

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Speaker 2: on charges.

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Speaker 13: No, not at the moment. And indeed the police are

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Speaker 13: still searching Andrew Mountbatten's Windsor's former home in Windsor. It

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Speaker 13: is such a large place and that's like day four,

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Speaker 13: day five of that investigation. But the arrest of Lord

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Speaker 13: Peter Mandelsson yesterday, a man twice who had to resign

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Speaker 13: from cabinet over different scandals, the man who propelled an

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Speaker 13: unknown Tony Blair not just to the leader of the

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Speaker 13: Labor Party but to the Prime Minister. Lord Mandelson has

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Speaker 13: once again found himself in the news. He went back

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Speaker 13: home at two am after police released him from that arrest.

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Speaker 13: But yeah, both men Andrew and Lord Peter Mandelson still

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Speaker 13: under investigation for this misconduct in public office, which basically

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Speaker 13: means that they are alleged to have given information that

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Speaker 13: was private and confidential from the government to Jeffrey Epstein.

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Speaker 2: Kevin gray are UK Europe corresponding eleven away from six

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Speaker 2: ra Bridge nurses at aged care facilities going back to

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Speaker 2: the old school, paper based prescriptions for medicines after this

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Speaker 2: latest data breach. MADI map is used by sixty percent

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Speaker 2: of care facilities that was hacked. Patients details would change

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Speaker 2: some from a life to dead for goodness sakes, and

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Speaker 2: this is only just after the Manage My Health ransom hack.

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Speaker 2: Rob Campbell, former health ENZ share with me this morning, Rob,

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Speaker 2: Good morning.

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Speaker 9: Good morning.

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Speaker 2: Right, A general question for you do you trust after

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Speaker 2: all of these hacks? Do you trust the data with

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Speaker 2: the health agencies?

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Speaker 9: Not completely, But that's more I think caution and wisdom

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Speaker 9: than just risky behavior. People don't have a lot of

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Speaker 9: choice about this, and you know there are lots of

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Speaker 9: points of vulnerability in the data systems in the health sector,

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Speaker 9: but no, I don't think there's a cause to immediately

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Speaker 9: distrust all the data.

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Speaker 2: Is there a difference between the private operators who seem

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Speaker 2: to be getting hacked and the public. When you helped

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Speaker 2: New Zealand, did they have more robust systems?

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Speaker 9: Some were, some weren't. There were issues. It's like a

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Speaker 9: lot of things in our society. This has been known

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Speaker 9: about for some time. The vulnerabilities are not new. The

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Speaker 9: warnings have been issued. Some people have responded to the warnings,

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Speaker 9: some people haven't. Some have responded adequately, some haven't. We're

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Speaker 9: finding some points of vulnerability now in the health system

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Speaker 9: that are very concerning, but should indeed have been addressed

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Speaker 9: much earlier, because, as I say, the knowledge that we

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Speaker 9: had vulnerabilities is not new.

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Speaker 2: Why do you think they haven't been fixed?

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Speaker 9: Well, I think it's like again a lot of other

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Speaker 9: vulnerabilities in our society. It's expensive, it can be complex.

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Speaker 9: It's not headline grabbing stuff. So it's the sort of

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Speaker 9: thing that people do put off. And there is no

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Speaker 9: absolute data security assurance that you can give, so it's

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Speaker 9: a matter of constant vigilance. It's a matter of cost,

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Speaker 9: and you know, people do make tradeoffs in these things,

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Speaker 9: particularly systems and operators that are under pressure do make tradeoffs,

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Speaker 9: and sometimes those tradeoffs payoffs. Sometimes they don't, and we're

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Speaker 9: finding too many, certainly in the health system that don't.

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Speaker 9: So there are vulnerabilities at the point of the individual user,

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Speaker 9: the individual company or business that they're using in, but

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Speaker 9: across the health sector as a whole. I think there

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Speaker 9: are issues about governance from both the Ministry of Health

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Speaker 9: and Health New Zealand as to what level of attention

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Speaker 9: is required of people who are spending public funds or

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Speaker 9: providing public services, even if they may be private operators.

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Speaker 2: Rob appreciate that. Thank you. Rob Campbell, former health Ended

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Speaker 2: Shared Time is nine away from six Bryans Health inded

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Speaker 2: by the way basically washing their hands of saying it's

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Speaker 2: a private company and it's their responsibility to fix. If

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Speaker 2: you weren't listening earlier. The fine in New Zealand for

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Speaker 2: a private company having a breach like this is maximum

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Speaker 2: ten thousand dollars and that's not even forgetting the data stolen.

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Speaker 2: That's if they don't tell us about it or try

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Speaker 2: and cover it up. News Talk said b.

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Speaker 1: Get ahead of the headlines on early edition with Ryan

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Speaker 2: It's the six News Talk, said b Mike in the studio.

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Speaker 2: Good morning Mike. Great to see you Ryan and to

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Speaker 2: see you great. Yeah, what's in your show today?

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Speaker 14: Well, I'm going to do the medi map thing.

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Speaker 2: Ah, you and I don't know how because I don't

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Speaker 2: mean to sound bored.

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Speaker 14: No, I'm looking on board with I say, Look, I

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Speaker 14: don't have anything in my medical past that I'd be

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Speaker 14: bothered about it because I was involved in the manage

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Speaker 14: my health thing. Well you got you know, I wasn't

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Speaker 14: as apparently I managed my I was with managed my

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Speaker 14: health and they had to write to me to tell

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Speaker 14: me I wasn't one of the unlucky people. But at

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Speaker 14: the time, I thought, do I care if I am?

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Speaker 14: And I came to the conclusion I didn't. You know, really,

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Speaker 14: I couldn't kill less? Yeah, grubby details. You know, it's

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Speaker 14: one of those ethereal things. Where's it actually going?

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Speaker 2: Well? The dark were did a dark web? Yeah, but

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Speaker 2: someone like you make you don't want people knowing where

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Speaker 2: you've had a rational I don't mean I don't I

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Speaker 2: couldn't care less.

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Speaker 14: Really, No, it doesn't, it doesn't. I mean if I

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Speaker 14: had something I don't know, I suppose embarrassing in my past.

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Speaker 14: I guess, you know, I can understand some people, you know,

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Speaker 14: medtal health issues.

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Speaker 2: I guess for some people would be in a genuine issue.

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Speaker 14: But I came to the conclusion that, you know, if

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Speaker 14: it all got blown out, I couldn't care less.

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Speaker 2: There was a woman's funny you say, mental health of

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Speaker 2: woman in Finland and there, you know, the electronic record

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Speaker 2: keeping for the shrinks got hacked. She had been abused,

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Speaker 2: she'd had the alcohol problem, stuff, she hadn't told her family.

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Speaker 2: All that got put on the.

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Speaker 14: Into those scenarios, of course, But the point being, now,

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Speaker 14: are we at a point where you know, because of

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Speaker 14: course they've gone back to bits of paper, you know,

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Speaker 14: and so how oh the irony and whether you've got

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Speaker 14: some sort of activism here, and because you've got it's

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Speaker 14: not really ransom this time around. It's Charlie Kirk and politicians'

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Speaker 14: names and all that sort of stuff. Anyway, we'll talk

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Speaker 14: about that. Mitch Barnette, you upset about that. No, Mitch

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Speaker 14: Barnett is the I can tell you don't know what

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Speaker 14: I'm talking about. Mitch Barnett is the co captain of

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Speaker 14: the Warriors and the Warriors a rugby Warriors are a rugby

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Speaker 14: league team. I'm glad you figured out when I don't

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Speaker 14: know what about I'm just going to now play game.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to bring do this every day anyway. Don't

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Speaker 2: pretend that this is not one of your games, Mike. Okay,

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Speaker 2: you're coming here. You're throwing some random if one name.

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Speaker 14: And I'm absolutely anyway, Mitch Barnett, we haven't even kicked off,

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Speaker 14: by the way, you realize the season.

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Speaker 2: Was chatting to Shawn Johnson yesterday.

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Speaker 14: Actually, Neil is he a likable guy.

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Speaker 2: He's lovely. Yeah, I agree, got a second season for

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Speaker 2: his show apparently too. Well, that's good.

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Speaker 14: He's got a major part in this season's coverage, this

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Speaker 14: kind of coverage of the day.

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Speaker 2: And so anyway, did he know who you were? Yes,

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Speaker 2: he's all good, because that's embarrassing. I should have had

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Speaker 2: to ask who he was though, of course exactly.

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Speaker 14: Anyway, Mitch Barnett's going home. So we've lost them before

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Speaker 14: the start of the season, all right, look forward to.

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