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Speaker 2: rugby news editor around the best first five currently playing
Speaker 2: an international rugby Interesting discussion there is it, indeed, Damien McKenzie, No,
Speaker 2: I've got some opinion for you around the treatment of
Speaker 2: the Black Caps by international cricket commentators and how we're
Speaker 2: really looking forward to stuffing it right up them come
Speaker 2: that Test series up against England. We joined in the
Speaker 2: chamber by Alex Powell, digital sports editor for New Zealand Herald,
Speaker 2: and it's been look at the big sports stories of
Speaker 2: the day, among them that English cricket team that has
Speaker 2: been named for the first Test in or Dutahi christ
Speaker 2: Church getting in the way on Thursday. That is our plan,
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Speaker 2: in other News and in Sports Today and you face
Speaker 2: will bat at three four England in the first cricket
Speaker 2: Test against the black Caps, studying Thursday and Auto Day
Speaker 2: christ Church, Warwickshire bat Jacob Bethel will debut at the spot,
Speaker 2: with Oli Pope keeping wicket and batting at six the
Speaker 2: absence of the injured Jordan Cox. Teammate Joe Roots holding
Speaker 2: high hopes. I love the look of him as a player.
Speaker 2: I've known Jacob and his family for a long time
Speaker 2: and it's been lovely to watch him grow up as
Speaker 2: a player coming through. He's full of confidence, he's got
Speaker 2: great ability, got a really well rounded game. India have
Speaker 2: crushed Australia by one hundred and ninety five runs and
Speaker 2: the opening cricket Test of their five match series. It's
Speaker 2: in Perth that game. India stand in captain Jasper Boomer
Speaker 2: was player of the match after returning figures of eight
Speaker 2: for seventy two. Is Australian counterpart Pat Cummins has outlined
Speaker 2: their plans between now and the second pink ball fixture
Speaker 2: at Adelaide which starts next Friday. You know, clearly well
Speaker 2: off the mark. There's a lot to work on. So
Speaker 2: you know, the most important thing is is four.
Speaker 1: Test patch is to come.
Speaker 2: You know, what's the next move? How do we make
Speaker 2: sure that we haven't been in this position again? And
Speaker 2: the Tall Blacks have overcome a sluggish shooting display to
Speaker 2: beat Chinese Taipei eighty one sixty four in christ Church,
Speaker 2: booking their place in next year's fever Asia Cup. Coach
Speaker 2: jud Flable says their lower ranked opposition applied pressure. Got
Speaker 2: to give them some credit. On the defensive end.
Speaker 3: They forced us out of our rhythm and in that
Speaker 3: space there just we went quite on the front foot
Speaker 3: as what we would have liked beating.
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Speaker 2: We're joined now by Campbell. Burns is rugby news editor,
Speaker 2: co editor of the Rugby Oma make former first five
Speaker 2: eighth playing four months summer as well. Campbell was a
Speaker 2: pleasure to welcome to the program. I trust you well,
Speaker 2: Thank you, Darsey.
Speaker 3: I'm very well and actually looking forward to a bit
Speaker 3: of a summer break after a smagers board of rugby.
Speaker 2: It's been a long old season. But we've only been
Speaker 2: reporting it. You've been writing on it, We've not been playing.
Speaker 2: So that's a key thing. Let's look back at this.
Speaker 2: I suppose I've seen marks out of ten for this
Speaker 2: season for Scott robertson comment left, right and center at
Speaker 2: what he's done right, what he's done wrong? In a
Speaker 2: broader sense of it, Has this been a successful season
Speaker 2: for you? And based on what Campbell.
Speaker 3: Yes and no, I would I mean a ten to
Speaker 3: four record. They might have taken that at the start
Speaker 3: of the year, but we look closely at the Orbecks
Speaker 3: with more scrutiny, so we look at performances. So I
Speaker 3: would say that we yet to get their four eighty
Speaker 3: minute performance. We've seen ten rookies lot it, which is
Speaker 3: nice and glimpses of very good rugby, but still a
Speaker 3: lot of questions about this allbacks team, particularly around the
Speaker 3: game management and their back line. I think the Fords
Speaker 3: have taken some good strides there, but yep, there's still
Speaker 3: work to do in a few rocks under those beach towls.
Speaker 2: During summer, Damien McKenzie, he had the teen jersey to
Speaker 2: start to eventually relinquished it, got it back again has
Speaker 2: been named as the first five eighth of the year
Speaker 2: by World Rugby. Interesting call, two things, Where do you
Speaker 2: think he ranks and who was the best first five
Speaker 2: eighth in global rugby currently?
Speaker 3: Well, I'm here to tell you it's not Damien Mackenzie.
Speaker 3: Much as I like him as a super rugby player
Speaker 3: and a rugby player in general, he got kicked very well.
Speaker 3: We know that he played very well against Ireland and
Speaker 3: in patches he showed his talent, but he didn't really
Speaker 3: take control as much as we would have liked to
Speaker 3: have seen. And that's why Boden Barrett, you know, who's
Speaker 3: perhaps a safer pair of hands, came in two or
Speaker 3: three games. Who is the best first five in the
Speaker 3: world while on form likes of Finn Russell of Scotland,
Speaker 3: Thomas Ramos has come in and played very well for France,
Speaker 3: and Marcus Smith of England, who's a player they need
Speaker 3: to England does need to build their game around. I
Speaker 3: don't know whether they quite fully trust him yet, but
Speaker 3: he's a man with a wide skill set. So those
Speaker 3: three I would have thought would have ranked higher than Mackenzie.
Speaker 3: So to me that was an interesting call, not one
Speaker 3: I would have agreed with So yeah, considering McKenzie's not
Speaker 3: even the best number ten in New Zealand on form
Speaker 3: at the moment.
Speaker 2: And very shaky that ten role about where Robinson's actually
Speaker 2: going with us, and of course we've got the shadow
Speaker 2: of Richie Moooner over the whole selection process too. Where
Speaker 2: do they go and should there be alarm bells ringing
Speaker 2: around this? This is the forkrum, this is the key
Speaker 2: selection in the side. We don't appear to be much
Speaker 2: wiser about where the team's going with that.
Speaker 3: I think Robertson's banking on Richie Mohner coming back and
Speaker 3: that will there's a fair bit of water to go
Speaker 3: under the bridge there to get him to break the
Speaker 3: last year of his conduct in Japan. He's definitely the
Speaker 3: man who will take control Raizer gets the best out
Speaker 3: of him. People's talk about, oh, he hasn't done much
Speaker 3: in two World Cups. Will he has? Actually he's played
Speaker 3: pretty well in the last World Cup in particular, but
Speaker 3: I mean just a world class ten. So he would
Speaker 3: definitely be the man. If you think that they can
Speaker 3: get him back from July next year, that would be
Speaker 3: great or at worst in July twenty twenty six, but
Speaker 3: he's still only thirty years old. Richie Mormer, I think
Speaker 3: he's got plenty left and he would slot straight back
Speaker 3: in because Robertson's shown he goes with men he trusts,
Speaker 3: like Scott Barrett as captain for instance, and a lot
Speaker 3: of these fringe crusaders. So I think he's putting all
Speaker 3: his eggs in the mauna basket. So we'll see whether
Speaker 3: he gets back next year or.
Speaker 2: The year after. Interesting, Campbell that you mentioned Scott Barrett
Speaker 2: the a few word or words around that maybe he
Speaker 2: might not be the ideal guy and maybe the captaincy
Speaker 2: needs to change. Do you want to expand on that
Speaker 2: for us?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not convinced about that. I mean, Scott Barrett's
Speaker 3: still he's still a very good footballer. He's a starting lock.
Speaker 3: People are worried about his discipline and the main and
Speaker 3: that yellow card, I mean it was a crock rider
Speaker 3: was probably a marginal call on the weekend against Italy.
Speaker 3: He yeah, I mean he's had a couple of yellow cards.
Speaker 3: The aubec's discipline as a whole hasn't been that great,
Speaker 3: to be fair, But I don't think that's on Barrett's shoulders.
Speaker 3: And again I mean Robinson will always go with the
Speaker 3: man he trusts. That's why Foster went with Sam Kaine
Speaker 3: as his captain. I would have a problem with Ardie
Speaker 3: Savia captain per se, but it's a question of whether
Speaker 3: the coach is fully in sync with him, So I
Speaker 3: don't think the captaincy is a major issue. Barrett's place
Speaker 3: as the starting lock is not in question, So yeah,
Speaker 3: those sort of questions are more just a retaliation to
Speaker 3: the fact that the Albek's discipline hasn't been what it
Speaker 3: should and it was a.
Speaker 2: Pretty average final game. I think that the Blacks one
Speaker 2: on the scoreboard, but Italy won the night in my
Speaker 2: personal opinion. Let's leave things Campbell burns with this areas
Speaker 2: of weakness. Where is the tender underbelly position wise for
Speaker 2: this all Black team. If you were to ring alarm bells,
Speaker 2: where would you be ringing them? Well?
Speaker 3: Probably she a combination of that ten, twelve, thirteen. Jordi
Speaker 3: Barrett's the best twelve, but who should be going at
Speaker 3: ten more and might fill that hole? Ezraco? Are you
Speaker 3: only the best center? Shannon Frazzell could come back and
Speaker 3: definitely fill that number six position, but I think some
Speaker 3: apeny fee now has a future there as well, so
Speaker 3: those three positions, perhaps the right wing, so three or
Speaker 3: four there. I think the type five is looking pretty promising,
Speaker 3: but I wouldn't say there are necessarily areas of weakness,
Speaker 3: but those are areas of concern as far as making
Speaker 3: the whole part work in the allbacks and generally speaking,
Speaker 3: the Fords are looking pretty good. We just need to
Speaker 3: nail down that blindside flanker position and I think Frazell
Speaker 3: could be the man coming back to do that, And
Speaker 3: then a f Ritchie Morre comes back. I think the
Speaker 3: rest of it will flow from there.
Speaker 2: Rugby News editor and co editor of the Rugby Almanac,
Speaker 2: former first five eight firm some Moa Campbell Burns. We
Speaker 2: thank you very much for your time. Now get out
Speaker 2: the deck chair, grab yourself on mahito and do nothing
Speaker 2: for a couple of months.
Speaker 3: Our try my best, does he.
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Speaker 2: EB the girl of the guy, Rabbi SHASTRII fantastic player.
Speaker 2: It's a coach of India, an all rounder of some
Speaker 2: repute Test cricket. One day Internationals, so on and so forth,
Speaker 2: and also owner of the worst pair of sunglasses I've
Speaker 2: ever seen on a cricket commentator. But it doesn't matter
Speaker 2: how he looks, It's all about what he says. And
Speaker 2: I appreciate that. Over the length of a Test match,
Speaker 2: even though it was mercifully short for the Australians over
Speaker 2: the weekend and the length of a Test matcher can
Speaker 2: be very difficult to keep the energy up, to keep
Speaker 2: the information up. But when I hear a guy like
Speaker 2: Rubbish Shastra casually dismiss the black Caps outstanding effort over
Speaker 2: the Indians in their own backyard three zip series went outstanding.
Speaker 2: When I hear them dismiss this as all it was
Speaker 2: a problem with the pitch and nothing else, how dare you?
Speaker 2: How dare you talk to millions of people and not
Speaker 2: give the credit that the black Caps deserve for what
Speaker 2: they achieved. Australia probably hate what the black Caps did.
Speaker 2: They awoke the sleeping Giant, although I've said on many
Speaker 2: occasions before and I'll keep saying, they weren't asleep, they
Speaker 2: were in a coma. Somehow they managed to get it
Speaker 2: back together, revived and came back to slap the Australians
Speaker 2: in a manner not too dissimilar the way the black
Speaker 2: Caps managed to slap them at home. But the sheer
Speaker 2: arrogance of Rubbish Shastri, the sheer arrogance of a lot
Speaker 2: of these Indian commentators, and their ridiculous adulation the idolization
Speaker 2: of the Indian cricket team makes listening to their commentary
Speaker 2: extraordinarily uncomfortable. Likely I've got a mute button, so I'd
Speaker 2: have to listen for much longer. Look, I get it,
Speaker 2: you're idolizing this team. They can't do anything wrong, and
Speaker 2: probably the BCCI leaning over you to smack you in
Speaker 2: the mouth if you say anything mean about the Indians.
Speaker 2: But please some respect for a side that did something
Speaker 2: quite extraordinary in your own backyard. It wouldn't kill you
Speaker 2: to recognize the facts that the black Caps beat the
Speaker 2: Indians in India. It's in the record books now and
Speaker 2: it won't go away.
Speaker 1: The Chamber is now in session on Sportsfax.
Speaker 2: And it's Chamber time again, this time joining me to
Speaker 2: discuss the big sports stories of the day. Digital sports
Speaker 2: editor from New zeal Herald, Alex Pale, Good day to you,
Speaker 2: So I trust your well I'm good.
Speaker 4: Note, how are you?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: No, no, good? Good? Good? Looking forward to another huge week.
Speaker 2: I say huge because come Thursday is the Test cricket
Speaker 2: that we've all been waiting for. But before we start
Speaker 2: talking about that, he's still got another sports story today.
Speaker 2: This has been the most telescoped signing in Breakers history.
Speaker 2: Finally it's over the line. Taco Fall is the new man,
Speaker 2: the new Center, the eight million foot high center to
Speaker 2: turn up for the Breakers. We all knew this was coming.
Speaker 2: They just had to get rid of somebody, right.
Speaker 4: Yeap, And they've done that. No. Look, I think I
Speaker 4: mean we had this exact conversation couple weeks going to
Speaker 4: try about what he brings. He's bums on seats, people
Speaker 4: want to come and watch him. Everyone loves a big unit.
Speaker 4: I think that's the basic way you can sum it up.
Speaker 2: Well, it's all like, is there a beard of lady
Speaker 2: turning up as well? I don't want to diminish what
Speaker 2: he can do, because I'm sure he's a great basketball play,
Speaker 2: But yet that sense, don't you around it?
Speaker 4: I think it takes both boxes. Yes, you've got the
Speaker 4: novelsy factor, but he's also a blood good play. He's
Speaker 4: plaint in the NBA. Yeah he's what is he nine
Speaker 4: feet tall? Is that we're finalized?
Speaker 2: I've got no idea. We'll just throw something out too.
Speaker 4: I mean, look, is this our chance to bin off
Speaker 4: the imperial measurement system? Because I know he's two point
Speaker 4: two meters? So whatever that is is how it's a
Speaker 4: I find that bizarre.
Speaker 2: Maybe it's an American thing, but I have been alive
Speaker 2: for fifty five years, and as long as I've been alive,
Speaker 2: we've run the metric system. Yet people still indulge in
Speaker 2: pounds and feet and stone and inches. And this is
Speaker 2: a sports program. I shouldn't be talking about that, but
Speaker 2: it drives me insane. Say but is he two meters?
Speaker 4: Two point two metersre?
Speaker 2: You go look at that. We'll try and remember that.
Speaker 2: So when he finally gets unleashed expectations, he'll provide a
Speaker 2: wonderful role on the scent. I mean, you love a
Speaker 2: guy like that, there, wouldn't you.
Speaker 4: You'd hope. So that's what he'll do.
Speaker 2: But again, let's see how he goes. Yeah, and the
Speaker 2: Breakers they're on a bit of a tear, so he's
Speaker 2: got a lot to live up to. But it's great
Speaker 2: that finally the cats out of the bay. We've got
Speaker 2: a Tarco fall is our man of the hour, right,
Speaker 2: that's got that tight up. What about BJ Jake? Who
Speaker 2: the hell is bj Jacobs?
Speaker 4: Well that's a very good question. I tell you who
Speaker 4: answered it. The Mumbai Indians of course, going for what's
Speaker 4: sixty thousand at the IPO auction day two overnight. It's
Speaker 4: sort of come out of the blue. I mean you
Speaker 4: look at some of the sort of well, it's completely
Speaker 4: come out of the blue. You look at you know,
Speaker 4: Caan Williamson didn't sell, Daryl Mitchell didn't sell. You know,
Speaker 4: a host of black Caps couldn't get a contract. And
Speaker 4: this guy who's never played into game for his ount,
Speaker 4: and I might have to say probably won't gets a gig.
Speaker 4: I mean, he might not play, but he's going to
Speaker 4: be over there and he's gonna be rubbing shoulders with
Speaker 4: some of the best players in the world.
Speaker 2: So that's just awesome for him. Not a great deal
Speaker 2: of money, but I wouldn't turn my nase up at
Speaker 2: sixty k for a few weeks work exactly that? Where anybody?
Speaker 2: No where did he come from?
Speaker 4: Were he South African? No?
Speaker 2: No, not that? Where did he come not know where
Speaker 2: he came from. We know he's like South African out
Speaker 2: of christ Church up to Auckland. I believe it goes.
Speaker 2: But as far as his cricketing cricket comes from, apparently
Speaker 2: he's a T twenty player of some repute. He's got
Speaker 2: quite the average.
Speaker 4: He I mean, he's been playing first class cricket and
Speaker 4: one day cricket for Auckland and Canterbury as well. But
Speaker 4: T twenty a pair to be the game that suits
Speaker 4: the most. It's just a hitter, right, just one of
Speaker 4: these these massive biffers of a ball who can.
Speaker 2: Just smack it anywhere. So he's got a strike rate
Speaker 2: what one hundred and eighty eight, So I suppose the
Speaker 2: average doesn't really matter, does it.
Speaker 4: That's the figure you look at, how how many runs
Speaker 4: per hundred balls to strike rate. If he's had in
Speaker 4: one hundred and eighty eight runs per hundred balls, he's
Speaker 4: pretty good.
Speaker 2: So I think the exposure to that particular league and
Speaker 2: those players, even if, as he said, he doesn't play,
Speaker 2: that's the most important thing, isn't it.
Speaker 4: Well not only that, but he's gone to Mumbai, Indians
Speaker 4: who owned teams all around the world, if he goes
Speaker 4: there and does things right way, he can get a
Speaker 4: gig playing in Major League Cricket for Mumbai Indians New York.
Speaker 4: He can get a gig in South Africa form by
Speaker 4: Indians Cape Town.
Speaker 3: He can get a.
Speaker 4: Gig in the UAE for Mumbai Indians Emirates.
Speaker 2: So the next question, right, if that is the case,
Speaker 2: would he ever actually play internationally for New Zealand regardless,
Speaker 2: because he might have a career just bouncing around the
Speaker 2: planet being being a mercenario.
Speaker 4: I mean, that's the way it looks like it's going,
Speaker 4: doesn't it.
Speaker 2: Well, that's the way it looks like it's going for cricket.
Speaker 2: Falls up your line. Cricket out there, Sidy. I'd love
Speaker 2: to play for the black Cats, but you know what,
Speaker 2: I really like the money as well. Damn, never mind,
Speaker 2: let's move on to more cricket. The Test is coming
Speaker 2: up on Thursday, so much on this Test match. The
Speaker 2: eleven has been announced for the English side, not announced
Speaker 2: yet for the black Cats, but we've got a rough
Speaker 2: idea of what it's going to be.
Speaker 4: We never but announced that which side which one? John
Speaker 4: new First one New England or England. England have announced
Speaker 4: that batting at number three will be Jacob Bethel, who's
Speaker 4: a twenty one year old out of Warwickshire, born in Barbados,
Speaker 4: but playing for England. Has never made a first class hundred,
Speaker 4: never batted at number three in his first class career,
Speaker 4: so that's a really rogue bas ball left field pick. Yeah,
Speaker 4: who knows what did he base it on exactly? He's
Speaker 4: played a bit of white word. But their wicket keeper,
Speaker 4: what's his name, Jordan Cox, got injured in the nets.
Speaker 4: I have it from pretty good and tell that that
Speaker 4: injury was inflicted by none other than agent Jet and
Speaker 4: Jet and Patel who's now working with England. So chess
Speaker 4: to that Jeets. But they didn't take a second wicket keeper,
Speaker 4: so they've just got no one. They've had to give
Speaker 4: the gloves to old Pope and normally bats number three.
Speaker 4: He drops down the orders number six, Ben Stokes, the
Speaker 4: captain has had to move down a place a number seven.
Speaker 4: So that's a moral win for New Zealand. If the
Speaker 4: captain's moving around, it's just a bit all over the shop.
Speaker 4: They could name another work at keep it to fly out,
Speaker 4: but you know, because England and New Zealand is so
Speaker 4: far apart. There's just no time to get someone here.
Speaker 2: Okay, so this sounds a little ravishastra to me, just
Speaker 2: dismissing the black Caps as nothing. It doesn't matter what
Speaker 2: we do, will turn up, we'll whack them anyway.
Speaker 4: I don't think that's just the black Caps. I think
Speaker 4: England know that if they play their best cricket, if
Speaker 4: they play their best goal, if they drink the most
Speaker 4: red wine on tour, they'll probably be all right because
Speaker 4: that's what's worked for them under McCullum and Stokes. But again,
Speaker 4: this one is really roke.
Speaker 2: What about New Zealand? Where do they go? What are
Speaker 2: the arguments around? Will Young get selected over? Came Williamson?
Speaker 2: No sounds like no, no.
Speaker 4: Well yeah, so Gary Stead spoke yesterday at the time
Speaker 4: of recording and he said, came, Williamson will come straight
Speaker 4: back into the side. Don't see will Young going at
Speaker 4: the top of the order because you're not going to
Speaker 4: drop Tom Latham because he's captain. Devin Conway returned to
Speaker 4: form in India. Ratchen Revengder is basically undroppable now number four.
Speaker 4: Daryl Mitchell came in it. He found a bit of
Speaker 4: foreman Mumbai and he's just got buckets at first slip,
Speaker 4: so you're not going to get rid of him. And
Speaker 4: then after that you've got the work keeper in the bowlers,
Speaker 4: so there might just be no room for well young.
Speaker 4: What is going to be interesting though, as Gary Stead said,
Speaker 4: they're going to play four quirkes, which means they're going
Speaker 4: to have to give a debut to one of Nathan
Speaker 4: Smith or Jacob Duffy.
Speaker 2: Okay, so Smith the Duffy. What's the argument here because
Speaker 2: it's teening towards Smith, isn't it.
Speaker 4: I'd say it's Smith. They've given us a huge clue
Speaker 4: today because they put Nathan Smith up for media and
Speaker 4: you don't tend to do that's a bloke running the drinks.
Speaker 4: But Nathan Smith is a bowling all round. Jacob Duffy
Speaker 4: is just a specialist. Quick you think Duffy doesn't give
Speaker 4: as much balance to the side as Smith, as you know,
Speaker 4: even though he's been in that team and around that
Speaker 4: test squad before. I think Smith is going to play.
Speaker 4: I think it should be confirmed within the next twenty
Speaker 4: four hours.
Speaker 2: And on that, Alex Powell out of the chamber. You
Speaker 2: go Digital Sports Center for The New Zealand Hill Thinks
Speaker 2: as always for your time and your Taco four dissecting
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