1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,239 Speaker 1: New data this morning from the Asthma and Respiratory Foundation 2 00:00:03,320 --> 00:00:05,920 Speaker 1: has found that youth vaping rates have dropped more than 3 00:00:06,000 --> 00:00:10,680 Speaker 1: fifty percent over the past three years. It's a survey 4 00:00:10,760 --> 00:00:13,640 Speaker 1: shows that just twelve percent of year nine to thirteen 5 00:00:13,680 --> 00:00:16,400 Speaker 1: students had vapd in the last seven days when the 6 00:00:16,520 --> 00:00:19,959 Speaker 1: survey was done. It was down from twenty seven percent 7 00:00:20,120 --> 00:00:23,400 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty one. Lea Tisha Harding is the Asthma 8 00:00:23,480 --> 00:00:26,200 Speaker 1: and Respiratory Foundation New Zealand chief executive. She's with me 9 00:00:26,280 --> 00:00:29,240 Speaker 1: this morning. Good morning, Good morning, Ryan, thank you for 10 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:29,640 Speaker 1: being here. 11 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:29,960 Speaker 2: Now. 12 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:32,400 Speaker 1: Is this flying the face of other stats we've just 13 00:00:32,440 --> 00:00:34,360 Speaker 1: had recently about youth vaping. 14 00:00:35,680 --> 00:00:38,120 Speaker 2: No, Actually, if you look at the New Zealand Health 15 00:00:38,159 --> 00:00:41,120 Speaker 2: Survey that was put out last week, it's a similar story. 16 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:47,000 Speaker 2: We've found that that younger group has actually declined in vaping, 17 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:52,280 Speaker 2: but the older group is actually the one which has increased. 18 00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:54,680 Speaker 2: So it is actually in line with what the New 19 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:56,960 Speaker 2: Zealand Health Survey was showing as well. 20 00:00:57,120 --> 00:01:01,160 Speaker 1: So you think that your theory is that the the 21 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:04,480 Speaker 1: younger people who are not vaping as much as the 22 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:07,440 Speaker 1: older ones, that's new regulations that's changed that. 23 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely, we think it's the regulations and also the 24 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:14,360 Speaker 2: education around you know, the harms of vaping and the 25 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 2: awareness out there. I think that's had a big impact. 26 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:20,760 Speaker 2: But as I said, although overall we've seen a reduction 27 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:23,640 Speaker 2: compared to when we ran our twenty twenty one survey, 28 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 2: so we reported vaping of twelve point two percent back then, 29 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:32,039 Speaker 2: now compared to twenty six percent in the year thirteen. 30 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:36,760 Speaker 2: That's dramatically increased to twenty six percent having vaped in 31 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:39,400 Speaker 2: the last seven days, whereas it was only twelve percent 32 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 2: in twenty twenty one. So this sort of stands to 33 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:46,679 Speaker 2: reason if we look at our year ten eleven, twelve thirteen, 34 00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 2: that was actually reducing back in twenty twenty one, but 35 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 2: it's increased in. 36 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:53,760 Speaker 1: This survey, right. Why do you think that is? 37 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:56,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's because if we look at when 38 00:01:56,640 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 2: regulations came and even the R eighteen, the restriction of 39 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:03,639 Speaker 2: buying nicotine containing vapes, that wasn't until November of twenty 40 00:02:03,720 --> 00:02:07,320 Speaker 2: twenty and of course we ran the first survey in 41 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:10,480 Speaker 2: August of twenty twenty one. So you've got this group 42 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 2: that had very little regulations around taking up vaping and 43 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:17,240 Speaker 2: some of very very high nicotine doses as well, because 44 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:21,120 Speaker 2: of course, back then the nicotine containing vapes had up 45 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:24,640 Speaker 2: to fifty fifty three milligrams of nicotine in them. So 46 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 2: you've got this group that has probably become quite addicted 47 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:30,800 Speaker 2: to these nicotine vapes, and that's carried on through. 48 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:34,320 Speaker 1: Half of those that were surveyed said that vaping was 49 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:36,600 Speaker 1: harming their health. Does that mean the other half thing 50 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:38,080 Speaker 1: it's fine? 51 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:43,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, So when we run the survey, we get obviously 52 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:47,880 Speaker 2: a lot of anecdotal evidence from how people feel about 53 00:02:47,919 --> 00:02:51,280 Speaker 2: their vaping, and that certainly came through that it was 54 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:55,680 Speaker 2: impacting their house. Especially these older students. They talk about 55 00:02:55,720 --> 00:02:59,079 Speaker 2: things like how it affects their sports, they're finding their 56 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:01,320 Speaker 2: out of breath when they been vaping, and of course 57 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:02,799 Speaker 2: some of them are actually waiting in the middle of 58 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 2: the night to vape as well, which is of huge concern. 59 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:08,960 Speaker 1: That's not good. So what do you want to do 60 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:11,320 Speaker 1: about it. One of the things is to increase the 61 00:03:11,360 --> 00:03:13,360 Speaker 1: age to twenty one. 62 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's several recommendations, and slowly, I guess, I think 63 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:20,840 Speaker 2: with new you know, we have slowly done this piecemeal 64 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:24,720 Speaker 2: approach to regulations over the years, but unfortunately it has 65 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:27,960 Speaker 2: been just that it's coming in with reducing the nixteen content, 66 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:30,080 Speaker 2: which have been pushing for to be in line with 67 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:33,359 Speaker 2: the EU at twenty milligrams. And that's across the disposable 68 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 2: vapes and of course refillable vapes increasing the age, but 69 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:40,600 Speaker 2: also the advertising being able to see these products from 70 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:43,960 Speaker 2: the front store window or going into general retailers and 71 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:46,960 Speaker 2: seeing these products. That hope is going to change next 72 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:50,920 Speaker 2: year with the new amendments to to the smoke free 73 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:53,760 Speaker 2: and REGAAR products built and obviously we've submitted into that 74 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:55,680 Speaker 2: and we're hoping to see that actually come to fruition 75 00:03:55,720 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 2: the next year because that advertising would have a big impact. Yeah. 76 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 1: Absolutely, all right to Tensha, thank you very much for 77 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:04,080 Speaker 1: your time this morning. La Tensha Harding, Esthma and Rich 78 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 1: Respiratory Foundation, New Zealand chief executive. With new numbers out 79 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 1: this morning on vaping, twenty six percent of kids of 80 00:04:11,920 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 1: older teenagers vaping. That's not great, is it. I think 81 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 1: there's more teenagers vaping today than ever smoked, which I 82 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:23,600 Speaker 1: suppose it's what they tell us. It's a bit healthier 83 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:25,839 Speaker 1: than smoking, so I guess that might make sense, and 84 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:28,240 Speaker 1: it's not as much older and you know you don't 85 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:31,279 Speaker 1: smell when you kiss each other, et cetera. But it's 86 00:04:31,279 --> 00:04:32,040 Speaker 1: not great, is it. 87 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:36,080 Speaker 2: For more from Early Edition with Ryan Bridge, listen live 88 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:39,240 Speaker 2: to news Talks it'd be from five am weekdays, or 89 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:41,200 Speaker 2: follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.