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Speaker 3: Welcome in to Sunday afternoon. This is Weekend Sport. My

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Speaker 3: name's Darcy water Grave, sitting in the hot seat, vacated

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Speaker 3: temporarily by Jason Pine. You got me through till at

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Speaker 3: three o'clock this afternoon, seven past midday. It is. It's Sunday,

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Speaker 3: the eighth of September, and we've got a few birthdays

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Speaker 3: to celebrate, and we've got plenty of show to unload

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Speaker 3: on you as well. I'll give you a quick rundown

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Speaker 3: of what we've got up in store for you. Tamothy Ellison,

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Speaker 3: one of the many assistant coaches from the All Blacks,

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Speaker 3: joins us after another loss, after the fourth consecutive bat

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Speaker 3: at the hands of the spring Box. What now? What happened?

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Speaker 3: How was your bench? Will take your calls well on

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Speaker 3: know the drill. Up after one o'clock celebrating Paralympics and

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Speaker 3: the paralympian Anna Grimaldi didn't defend her long jump title,

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Speaker 3: but she push that to one side. And this morning,

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Speaker 3: just after the All Blacks managed saw the bedjeets, she

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Speaker 3: ran off the two hundred meter victory will be joined

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Speaker 3: by her. Up after one o'clock. Campbell Parata did something

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Speaker 3: quite extraordinary yesterday. Just calm your farm, Annie McDonnell, and

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Speaker 3: I know you're excited. Tasman have never done this before.

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Speaker 3: go of the log of wood. Campbell Parata kicked the

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Speaker 3: winning penalty from our No. Forty forty five fifty sixty

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Speaker 3: eighty meters out. He joins us on the programme James

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Speaker 3: mccony back in New Zealand after touring around the Northern

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Speaker 3: Hemisphere to give us his take on the week in sport.

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Speaker 3: Up after two o'clock. Another Paralympic. This Paralympid, excuse me,

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Speaker 3: the best probably we've ever had. Eleven gold medals, nineteen

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Speaker 3: in total. Medals. I think Dame Sophie Pasco joins us

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Speaker 3: to discuss the games in full and the attitude of

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Speaker 3: those athletes. Cricket starts tomorrow night. Ajs Patel joins US

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Speaker 3: black Caps taking on Afghanistan. Who gives the skinny on

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Speaker 3: what happens and how much he's looking forward to Mumbai.

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Speaker 3: I think a lot, just quietly, and we'll finish the

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Speaker 3: program off with a bitter football. The NFL got Underwagh

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Speaker 3: yesterday carries on throughout the weekend. Our American corresponded, My man,

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Speaker 3: my friend from Fox Sport Radio. Ben Maller joins the program.

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Speaker 3: That's the master plan for the eighth of September, and

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Speaker 3: the master plan for these people is to celebrate their birthdays.

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Speaker 3: Spencer and New the roosters prop is twenty four today,

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Speaker 3: Sherman Gil turns twenty five. It's quite young, I though

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Speaker 3: it was, but older than that. Quite a surprise. Twenty five.

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Speaker 3: The Indian cricketer Bruno Fernandez midfielder added. Manchester United ticks

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Speaker 3: over the Big Three to zero and Joss Butler thirty

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Speaker 3: four today the English cricketer here you go, done and

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Speaker 3: Dustin for the start of the program. This is week

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Speaker 3: in Sport. My name is Darcy Waltergrove. Don't forget that number. Oh,

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Speaker 2: When it's down to the line.

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Speaker 4: To the All Blacks nine minutes in Size African Territory.

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Speaker 6: And I'll pick it out in South Africa sat the

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Speaker 3: It's South African Joy and top town.

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Speaker 5: It's the Freedom Pup's South Africa's cup.

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Speaker 3: It's Elliot Smith with the call for News Talk gaz

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Speaker 3: to b yep four on the bounce, familiar sight now right,

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Speaker 3: blower at Tamody. That's a that's a tough day at

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Speaker 3: the office on the part. Look, the chances were there

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Speaker 3: your initial reaction to it's what happened in the game.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I think you're your smelters is pretty accurate there

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Speaker 9: and we saw those same same things.

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Speaker 10: So it was obviously gutted and it's quite changing them

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Speaker 3: As far as your team are concerned to Tumanty, do

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Speaker 10: It's all pretty raw.

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Speaker 9: Now take me a while to get through the tape

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Speaker 10: But yes, there's just some obvious ones around down.

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Speaker 9: There half of the field and then the big swings

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Speaker 9: they capitalized when they got down to your end and

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Speaker 10: We miss a few chances when we were down their end.

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Speaker 3: Statistically, Talmente, there wasn't a great deal of difference between

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Speaker 3: whip hand when necessary. But do you think it's fair

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Speaker 10: I think that is fair.

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Speaker 9: It was definitely a Tessa match and as you said,

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Speaker 3: As far as coaching is concerned, Talty, yourself and the

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Speaker 9: We're super proud of the efforts around the collision and

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Speaker 9: the intent. I think that was the same last week

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Speaker 10: So you know, we're proud of the boys and the efforts.

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Speaker 9: I'm not sure if that answers your question, but that

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Speaker 9: Yeah, an exceptional A Lee a polite young man, and

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Speaker 10: So I'm proud of as if it's as well tonight.

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Speaker 3: What about the bench, Tumtee. A lot of debate last

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I couldn't answer that accurately. I'm gonna I'm on

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Speaker 10: A wee bit of time to strategize around how we finished.

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Speaker 9: The end, to be fair, especially when you're talking front

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Speaker 3: Pretty much played type, didn't they and they executed. I

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Speaker 3: it really tested your team. I suppose you saw that coming.

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Speaker 9: I think you know it's DNA four that rugby box kicking,

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Speaker 3: What's your philosophy, what's your edict around when to take

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Speaker 10: Not regardless.

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Speaker 9: So you've got to you've got to take points on

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Speaker 9: context and in the floor of the game cards you know, No,

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Speaker 9: it's not Yeah, you're dealing with the context where we

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Speaker 9: think we are forgot the momentum, et cetera.

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Speaker 3: Plenty of yellow cards being flashed around during the exchanges.

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Speaker 3: Tality from your viewpoint, do you feel that the officials,

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Speaker 3: the referee I dealt with the applications of yellow cards

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I'm actually unsure as the seat of the balance

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Speaker 9: done a good jobs. It's as loud out therefore for

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Speaker 3: Credit where credits do though, the South Africans played some

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Speaker 3: They're a difficult team to stop and they can stop

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, we are.

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Speaker 9: You know, they're winning those pressure moments for a reason,

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Speaker 10: So yeah, they deserve that.

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Speaker 3: Tonight, seven game three losses coming to hardly ideal for

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Speaker 10: Are The key is, you know, let's still honest conversations.

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Speaker 10: It's consistent process.

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Speaker 9: It's max if at making sure we're putting in the work,

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Speaker 10: Build the players weak to week and keeping in.

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Speaker 9: The group tight. And I don't think that would change

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Speaker 9: it's our commitment to it.

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Speaker 3: Spoke of Wallace Satiti and what he provided. There's a

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Speaker 3: of football, and again the target lies on Cody Taylor.

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Speaker 3: He's in a rare streak of form right now, isn't he.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, I'm not sure if it's real.

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Speaker 9: He's pretty consistent Cody, you know, he's doing that week

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Speaker 10: A coach for a few years, and he is an

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Speaker 10: impressive rugby player for sure.

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Speaker 3: What happens now, Tom Tegue, as far as decompressing, unpacking

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Speaker 3: and all of those cliched terms, what has to happen

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Speaker 10: Yeah, recovery now obviously a wee bit of trouble.

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Speaker 3: And on that it's the end. Tomo Ty Ellison, thank

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Speaker 3: Assistant coach of the All Blacks. After suffering defeat again,

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Speaker 3: It's all about the All Blacks after the defeat of

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Speaker 3: this morning in South Africa. Pete welcome to the show,

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Speaker 12: Here you going here? So they actually start. Now, I

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Speaker 12: re what old Raide has gotta do. He's got to

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Speaker 12: spend a whole week just discipline the rules. They let

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Speaker 12: also too, they're not focusing on the ball. You watched

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Speaker 12: They should be watching that ball like gold bar and

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Speaker 12: bouncing on it quite off of that bulls.

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Speaker 11: They should be.

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Speaker 12: Bouncing that ball of centers that's free, free to jump

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Speaker 3: That was many times now guilty of that last week

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Speaker 3: as well, And it was a massive hole. Wasn't there

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Speaker 3: but yeah, and I think the the adherence to the

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Speaker 3: for your call. Fascinating about this is how quickly the

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Speaker 3: Not quite sure what period it was from the top

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Speaker 3: high Mark, how are you?

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Speaker 13: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Good Darcy?

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Speaker 11: Yeah, the referee.

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Speaker 14: I don't think it's just an over the two matches,

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Speaker 14: and I don't actually think it was world class referring

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Speaker 14: I actually thought both sides deserve better officiating than we've

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Speaker 14: gotten the two tests, to be honest, very cool you've got,

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Speaker 14: yeah Africans. I mean, you know, just mentally this team,

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Speaker 14: And the fact that they just keep getting up over

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Speaker 14: well they're rolling at the moment. You know, they went

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Speaker 14: through the World Cup. I think they won three games

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Speaker 14: by one point. You know, they didn't really haven't really

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Speaker 14: thrashed the All Blacks. I don't imagine they'd be super

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Speaker 14: happy with a lot of their play they did.

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Speaker 3: They were faultless, but they know to take to win.

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Speaker 3: And we always say it doesn't matter one point. It

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Speaker 3: doesn't matter. One point is what you need, Like the

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Speaker 3: way you reference how good the spring Boks are even

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Speaker 3: though they did play perfectly, they knew how to play,

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Speaker 3: that's what the All Blacks used to be.

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Speaker 15: Like.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, and I think I think a weakness to me

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Speaker 14: is I mean, obviously you can see what they're doing

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Speaker 14: with them, but under pressure, he's not performing. You know,

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Speaker 14: he missed that kick to put us in front right

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Speaker 14: I mean, that was a very Do you think that

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Speaker 3: Oh, I don't know. I've never placed kicked the ball

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Speaker 3: so I can't say it's easy. Just unfair. Look, it

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Speaker 14: Yeah, and I think that's that's probably my point. But

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Speaker 14: I think under pressure and he's not. He's not the year.

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Speaker 14: As you just mentioned, this is the highest pressure, hot,

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Speaker 14: at the moment. I thought Sam Caine is probably to me,

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Speaker 14: I thought he played it was one of the outstanding players.

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Speaker 14: I think he's saved to try by tech clans, probably

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Speaker 3: Hey, Mark, thanks for your reflection on that. We're going

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Speaker 3: to carry on with the calls. Oh one hundred eighty

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Speaker 11: Mate? How are you?

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Speaker 3: I'm not so bad yourself?

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Speaker 12: Great?

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Speaker 16: Hey, I was just thinking about about not being too

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Speaker 16: given some time to establish connections with those players. Those

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Speaker 16: just saying it takes time to build a world class

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Speaker 16: So we've got to go through the same thing.

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Speaker 3: There was a situation that went on for a number

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Speaker 3: if you want in the business of cutting slack by

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Speaker 3: all means. But Julian, are we in the business of

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Speaker 3: I think we hold them to pretty high standards, don't we.

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Speaker 16: Yeah, we do, But you've got it. It takes time.

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Speaker 16: You can't instantly have a you know, a world class

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Speaker 16: and we're wanting, we're wanting just so much out of them.

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Speaker 16: I reckon that that wasn't There was a close game

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Speaker 16: last night and All Blacks didn't do too badly at all,

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Speaker 16: they're moving in the right direction. I reckon, just give

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Speaker 3: You're a very forgiving character, Julian, thanks very much for

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Speaker 3: that positive and put twenty eight minutes after mid day,

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Speaker 3: how much do we miss an attack coach and Liam

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Speaker 3: McDonald and we know they can't score in the last

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Speaker 3: twenty minutes, but no tries, no scores. There's some alarm

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Speaker 3: bells there, right, Surely there are eight hundred and eighty

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Speaker 3: News Talk ZBM Darcy, Hello Goose on weekend sport excuse me,

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Speaker 3: old habits die hard good? I does? How are you?

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 13: I don't know whether I should be talking to you

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Speaker 13: call after the first Humor's game, because we're in the

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Speaker 13: same situation and it is what it is. I don't

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Speaker 13: think the refereeing was overly terrible. From what it was

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Speaker 13: or for who it was, we couldn't have expected much better.

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Speaker 13: But we're in the same situation I said back then,

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Speaker 13: where Raisers on the hiding to nothing, being handed the

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Speaker 13: worst all black team in history in the professional era anyway,

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Speaker 13: where we haven't got an international quality first five. I

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Speaker 13: me know when we saw any real game management out

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Speaker 13: of McKenzie. We've seen no back line really across all

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Speaker 13: of those tests for most of them anyway.

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Speaker 3: So is it a case of dragging Boden Bart if

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Speaker 3: this indeed is the problem, and I understand and I

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Speaker 3: get your point, I don't know if Damien at that

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Speaker 3: sound game plan. But what do you do now we've

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Speaker 3: got no more Wana? Do you drag Boden and do

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Speaker 3: you let him carry on?

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Speaker 16: What?

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Speaker 3: What's the solution here? Goose?

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Speaker 13: Yeah, Well it's not Boden Barrett because he was Player

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Speaker 13: of the Year and the first year the world Player

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Speaker 13: of the Year and the first year he's got he

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Speaker 13: he's just as bad as Mackenzie. It's a horrible concept.

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Speaker 13: I think he's going to solve it.

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Speaker 3: Who's there? What do you do? What do you do?

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Speaker 13: Well, that's the problem. The best chance we've got with

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Speaker 13: what we're looking at with the people that raises named

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Speaker 13: that Hanson and Foster have left us with this ten

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Speaker 13: fifteen idiocy that we've seen for two cycles, and now

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Speaker 13: we've got no first five available in the country, and

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Speaker 13: that are doubled down on that idiocy by securing Barrett

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Speaker 13: bug it off and now we've got nothing. That's what

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Speaker 13: we're the situation we're in. We're a good couple of

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Speaker 13: years at least of this kind of hidden this against

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Speaker 13: any decent side, because we haven't got a game manager.

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Speaker 3: Game controller, game manager arguably the most important player on

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Speaker 3: the part Goose, Thanks for that, was appreciate your time,

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Speaker 3: ross your arm. What have you got?

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Speaker 14: Well he does?

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Speaker 4: How are we doing that today?

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Speaker 17: Hey, I'm growing by the box.

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Speaker 3: A fantastic years. It was to the is the spoil

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Speaker 3: It was they they are the All Blacks of you

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Speaker 3: know of recent times that they know how to win,

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Speaker 3: they know how to get the job done, and he

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Speaker 3: cannot take that away from them.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, well it does.

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Speaker 7: I mean if even if I mean, if you look

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Speaker 7: Blacks I think they beat thirty seven defenders today. They

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Speaker 7: didn't score a try that eleven clear turnovers, you know,

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Speaker 7: the box turned you know, the box turned down five

435
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Speaker 7: clear shots at goal. I mean the box played really

436
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Speaker 7: like the All Blacks of old. And I even thought

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Speaker 7: watching that game, I thought, man, he was going to

438
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Speaker 7: come back to wunt us not taking these chances, you know,

439
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Speaker 7: because normally threees are given the park who always sacrifice tries.

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Speaker 7: If they've got a clear opportunity to take the three,

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Speaker 7: they'll take the three on, and I thought they just

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Speaker 7: had that belief and I think also they believe in

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Speaker 7: the physicality, you know that I knew that it would

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Speaker 7: pay off in the end, and so they just kept

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Speaker 7: on persisting. And there was a lot of a lot

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Speaker 7: of peculiar things, I mean from the from the all

447
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Speaker 7: black side, I mean I thought, I mean, at one

448
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Speaker 7: point when I was watching the game, I thought, Whire's

449
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Speaker 7: Wallace a teating and he had a phenomenal game. I

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Speaker 7: was extremely happy to see him go off. I was

451
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Speaker 7: extremely happy to see Bowden Parratt come on after sixty

452
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Speaker 7: odd minutes. You know, there was and not obviously there

453
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Speaker 7: are three players off the Pence that they didn't even

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Speaker 7: bring on, you know, and you're playing the Box and

455
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Speaker 7: you're trying to match their pysigality and their pomb squad.

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Speaker 7: I mean, a whole lot of talk during the week

457
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Speaker 7: was how do we match the bomb squad? And Rulda

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Speaker 7: thought that they have three first players sitting on that

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Speaker 7: bench not coming off, you know, and it was I

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Speaker 7: think a lot of that was a telling part that

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Speaker 7: it was the spring Box called it slow poison. They

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Speaker 7: have the first team start, then they have the bomb squad,

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Speaker 7: come on, and it's a slow poison that they give you,

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Speaker 7: you know. And yeah, there's a lot of peculiar decisions.

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Speaker 7: And I think one of the callers mentioned correctly. I mean,

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Speaker 7: Damon mckens is a real good player, but not so

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Speaker 7: in terms.

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Speaker 14: Of game management.

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Speaker 7: You know, a lot of the kicking, you know, left

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Speaker 7: a lot to be.

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Speaker 14: Desired as well.

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Speaker 7: Now is a good player as a good half back,

473
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Speaker 7: but I don't think he's going to give you impact

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Speaker 7: coming off the bench, you know. So there's a lot

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Speaker 7: of question marks that I think was around all blacks

476
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Speaker 7: that played our advantage there as well.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think that it's really difficult Ross and

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Speaker 3: thanks for your call. When you're coming into the team

479
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Speaker 3: in the shadow of Richie Muwanga, of Dan Carter, of

480
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Speaker 3: Bowden Barrett and his pomp. It is difficult and it

481
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Speaker 3: is a key position. This is raised his problem now though.

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Speaker 3: And you mentioned the subs bench and how it gets used,

483
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Speaker 3: and we had this discussion last week on Sports Talk

484
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Speaker 3: of an evening. I asked Tummoty about it before. How

485
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Speaker 3: that's managed is key? Is it being managed in the

486
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Speaker 3: correct fashion or in an effective fashion? And you'd have

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Speaker 3: to say no, it isn't hi.

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Speaker 18: Tom am gonna Yeah, terrible, terrible game, Well terrible to

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Speaker 18: the sense that we've got issues. I think McKenzie is

490
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Speaker 18: an issue. I think that could be an issue to

491
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Speaker 18: who is the leadership where you've got all the barrets

492
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Speaker 18: having a bit of a captain c or a leadership

493
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Speaker 18: role where I think Scott's relying too much on his

494
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Speaker 18: brothers maybe to try to guide or drive that back line,

495
00:25:18,867 --> 00:25:23,707
Speaker 18: and there is nothing there. And even Jordie, right, Jordie's

496
00:25:23,747 --> 00:25:26,667
Speaker 18: normally has a great seven out of ten game. He's

497
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Speaker 18: been quiet for the last few games, and I can

498
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Speaker 18: only see that being because McKenzie is no one can

499
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Speaker 18: read McKenzie.

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Speaker 14: He's a bit like.

501
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Speaker 18: A Carla Spencer of Yesteryear, where he has a couple

502
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Speaker 18: of good games and then he has a couple of

503
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Speaker 18: shockers and no one can read his game other than him.

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Speaker 3: That's not a good way. Well, it's not a fault

505
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Speaker 3: from can't be in that position. They've got to have

506
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Speaker 3: that sixth sense. Is it a matter of time before

507
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Speaker 3: who he was inside and outside of him realize I

508
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Speaker 3: understand what he's doing. I know the term Tom blowfly

509
00:26:01,227 --> 00:26:03,307
Speaker 3: on a bottle has been used quite a lot, very

510
00:26:03,387 --> 00:26:07,027
Speaker 3: difficult to predict. Hard for the opposition, but just as hard,

511
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Speaker 3: if not worse, for your own teammates.

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Speaker 18: Well, certain, I think he's had enough. He's had enough

513
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Speaker 18: opportunity over the past few years. Right, so even Foster

514
00:26:15,787 --> 00:26:18,747
Speaker 18: was tinkering around with them, couldn't get their raises hit

515
00:26:18,787 --> 00:26:20,507
Speaker 18: a couple of goes. I think you need to cut

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Speaker 18: your losses with them. There's Plumberg I got told even

517
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Speaker 18: Reuben Love Potentially I know he's fallback, but maybe they

518
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Speaker 18: try something new, completely different. But or they've got to

519
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Speaker 18: pay to get my hunger back, simple as that they

520
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Speaker 18: get off the ground jewels and get my hunger back.

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Speaker 3: Oh to hear that. Good on you, Tom, Thanks very

522
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Speaker 3: much for your inport. One hundred eighty ten eighty lines

523
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Speaker 3: are open twenty four minutes to one. Still to come

524
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Speaker 3: up on the program up after one o'clock. We'll talk

525
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Speaker 3: with Ana because she made everybody happy after that All

526
00:26:50,947 --> 00:26:54,147
Speaker 3: Blacks defeat by Willing winning gold in the turn of

527
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Speaker 3: meter dash at the Paralympics. But more of your course

528
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Speaker 3: on the all Blacks right here, right now, Bruce High.

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Speaker 19: There you're going one thing that no one's talked about

530
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Speaker 19: is Aman McKenzie thing. I agree with, we just either

531
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Speaker 19: have to live with him or try something different. But

532
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Speaker 19: he's not going to be the answer. Everyone sort of

533
00:27:12,867 --> 00:27:15,707
Speaker 19: agree to that. But I think it's a combination of

534
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Speaker 19: him not being the answer and then people like Tyrel

535
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Speaker 19: Lomax doing it like a schoolboy bonehead move in kind

536
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Speaker 19: of sixty thousand people right at the end of the

537
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Speaker 19: game and getting yellow carded by obstructing Kolby.

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Speaker 2: That was but could you put that down?

539
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Speaker 18: It was?

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Speaker 3: But could you put that on the fact that he

541
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Speaker 3: is a prop He was on the field maybe far

542
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Speaker 3: too long, and that was a direct result of him

543
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Speaker 3: being gassed. He was tired. I don't think he did

544
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Speaker 3: that deliberately. I think he was tired. He was lazy,

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Speaker 3: That's what that So did.

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Speaker 11: They get it?

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Speaker 3: Did they get him out earlier?

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Speaker 19: The possibly? But that was a definite left move. You

549
00:27:49,347 --> 00:27:52,347
Speaker 19: look at the replays. He definitely moved left because Colby

550
00:27:52,427 --> 00:27:56,427
Speaker 19: is such a dangerous player and he was you know anyway,

551
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Speaker 19: but when.

552
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Speaker 3: You're tired, you make poor decisions, don't you.

553
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Speaker 19: Good point, but so just I know you go through

554
00:28:02,147 --> 00:28:04,987
Speaker 19: us quickly. But the other thing, if they're so focused

555
00:28:05,027 --> 00:28:08,107
Speaker 19: on kicking close and stuff. The ones that hit really

556
00:28:08,307 --> 00:28:11,147
Speaker 19: kicks me off is the Box. When they come to

557
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Speaker 19: a line out, they transfler the game down. They take

558
00:28:13,507 --> 00:28:15,467
Speaker 19: thirty seconds to get to a line out, but at

559
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Speaker 19: the end of the game when they're behind, they get

560
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Speaker 19: there instantly. I reckon there should be a clock on

561
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Speaker 19: a line out as well as clocking on everything else,

562
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Speaker 19: half backs and everything else.

563
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Speaker 3: Game management. They take whatever opportunity and chance they can.

564
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Speaker 3: And I mean you look back at the great Richie mccaun,

565
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Speaker 3: people's like a cheats is he know what he does

566
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Speaker 3: because he pushes the law as fast as he can.

567
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Speaker 3: He pushes it as close to the line as possible,

568
00:28:38,187 --> 00:28:39,867
Speaker 3: and that's what he did so well. So you've got

569
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Speaker 3: to give credit to the spring Box. They can get

570
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Speaker 3: away with.

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Speaker 19: It, right. It's a combination of McKenzie knocking the right

572
00:28:45,387 --> 00:28:47,907
Speaker 19: guy and then when we had in the corner we

573
00:28:48,107 --> 00:28:51,907
Speaker 19: knocked the ball on and you know, just small errors

574
00:28:52,187 --> 00:28:54,747
Speaker 19: under pressure that the bricks never used to do, and

575
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Speaker 19: the combination of McKenzie not being the right guy. Thanks

576
00:28:57,307 --> 00:28:59,227
Speaker 19: to your time, mate, well good good talk back.

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Speaker 3: And Bruce, thanks very much for participating. It is a

578
00:29:01,867 --> 00:29:03,987
Speaker 3: twelve thirty eight thees talks there B. This is a

579
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Speaker 3: Week in Sport them Darcy Water Gravelle. One and eight

580
00:29:07,387 --> 00:29:09,147
Speaker 3: is the number to call. We're talking All Blacks. What

581
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Speaker 3: else more of your calls coming up next here on

582
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Speaker 3: News Talks it be.

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Speaker 1: The Big Issues on and after Fields Call eighty ten

584
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Speaker 1: eighty with GJC homes.

585
00:29:20,947 --> 00:29:23,547
Speaker 2: New Zealand's first trusted home Milder News Talks it.

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Speaker 3: BB eighteen to one. This is Week in Sport on

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Speaker 3: News Talks A B. Taking your calls on the All Blacks.

588
00:29:30,507 --> 00:29:33,667
Speaker 3: We have got a power of text. I can't get

589
00:29:33,707 --> 00:29:36,867
Speaker 3: through them all. I can hardly start because I'd actually

590
00:29:36,987 --> 00:29:39,067
Speaker 3: rather talk to the people ringing me up. We'll start

591
00:29:39,107 --> 00:29:48,107
Speaker 3: with Jared, what have you got for us? Yeah? Illo, Jared, goodbye, Jared, James, Hi,

592
00:29:48,187 --> 00:29:50,067
Speaker 3: how are you? Yeah?

593
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Speaker 4: Thanks mate? I'll I hope somebody who isn't get my

594
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Speaker 4: name wrong. I am. I. I mean that was the

595
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Speaker 4: most painful three am wake up that I've had for

596
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Speaker 4: a long time. And I think that gave Yeah. I

597
00:30:05,787 --> 00:30:07,747
Speaker 4: think they could the ghost the All Black said. But

598
00:30:07,827 --> 00:30:10,187
Speaker 4: one of the things I liked that I saw when

599
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Speaker 4: they were having passages of play, even though they were

600
00:30:12,427 --> 00:30:15,987
Speaker 4: fumbling and dropping you can see a new technical back

601
00:30:16,067 --> 00:30:18,947
Speaker 4: line coming in, like some of the cross passes and

602
00:30:19,107 --> 00:30:21,347
Speaker 4: everything that they were doing. And then I was really

603
00:30:21,387 --> 00:30:25,267
Speaker 4: thinking about South Africa and South Africa is rarely the

604
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Speaker 4: ghost because they're now a Northern Hemisphere teape. They play

605
00:30:28,787 --> 00:30:31,907
Speaker 4: in Northern Hemisphere rugby most of the time. That's where

606
00:30:31,907 --> 00:30:36,147
Speaker 4: all their you know, super level games are played.

607
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Speaker 11: Kind of.

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Speaker 20: They do.

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Speaker 4: That was what the Southern Hemisphere held over the Northern

610
00:30:43,667 --> 00:30:47,347
Speaker 4: Hemisphere for decades was that we were so tight in

611
00:30:47,427 --> 00:30:50,387
Speaker 4: that South Africa, Australia and New Zealand that no one

612
00:30:50,427 --> 00:30:53,707
Speaker 4: really knew how he played. And Scott Robertson, My only

613
00:30:53,747 --> 00:30:57,227
Speaker 4: point really is Scott Robertson pointed out at the very

614
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Speaker 4: beginning of his tenure, before he even set foot on

615
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Speaker 4: the field with his team, he said, we need to

616
00:31:03,027 --> 00:31:05,507
Speaker 4: be able to get our players that are playing and

617
00:31:05,867 --> 00:31:08,867
Speaker 4: internet competitions back to New Zealand and we need to

618
00:31:08,867 --> 00:31:12,707
Speaker 4: scrub away with us role of if you're not playing locally,

619
00:31:13,147 --> 00:31:16,307
Speaker 4: you can't play for our national team. And I think

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Speaker 4: that South Africa they're in the best of both worlds.

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Speaker 4: They know how Southern Hemisphere rugby works very well. But

622
00:31:22,987 --> 00:31:25,987
Speaker 4: they're also very deep into the dish and understanding how

623
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Speaker 4: Northern Hemisphere rugby works now too.

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Speaker 3: James, you make a couple of really good points. I'm

625
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Speaker 3: sorry to drop. We've got heaps of calls to get

626
00:31:32,707 --> 00:31:35,067
Speaker 3: through in so little time. Jared A, you're back with me.

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Speaker 11: I'm back with you. Darcy. How are you? Mate?

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00:31:37,987 --> 00:31:38,187
Speaker 2: Good?

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Speaker 3: Lay it on the line. What have you got?

630
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Speaker 11: What have I got? I don't worry about the all backs, Darcy?

631
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Speaker 11: What about the tens and Marco's last night? Marca a

632
00:31:46,227 --> 00:31:47,067
Speaker 11: rubber of a game.

633
00:31:47,267 --> 00:31:49,867
Speaker 3: There's no essence at old Marty. But yeah, Michael, it

634
00:31:49,987 --> 00:31:52,027
Speaker 3: was something else. And we're talking to the guy who

635
00:31:52,067 --> 00:31:55,307
Speaker 3: basically won the game. Coming up? What time are we

636
00:31:55,347 --> 00:31:59,067
Speaker 3: going to do? About past one? We've got Campbell Parata

637
00:31:59,147 --> 00:32:00,707
Speaker 3: on so you can listen to them, Jared, we're going

638
00:32:00,747 --> 00:32:01,187
Speaker 3: to cover it.

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Speaker 11: Oh great stuff. What a stay he was to come

640
00:32:04,307 --> 00:32:07,227
Speaker 11: on and kick the winn and god, I thought we'd

641
00:32:07,227 --> 00:32:10,187
Speaker 11: lost the game after the Hawk'sway came back so well

642
00:32:10,987 --> 00:32:13,627
Speaker 11: to come on and kick the winning goal and to

643
00:32:13,667 --> 00:32:16,827
Speaker 11: see their emotion for you know, I'm a prayer more Burian,

644
00:32:17,587 --> 00:32:20,667
Speaker 11: and to see the district win the ren Feely Shield

645
00:32:21,707 --> 00:32:24,867
Speaker 11: since the rear Devil was in nineteen seventy three for

646
00:32:24,947 --> 00:32:28,227
Speaker 11: the Prayer Union of Pairsman, it's just just fantastic and

647
00:32:28,267 --> 00:32:31,227
Speaker 11: I'm just so proud of the boys and fins up.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely good crowd, heart of the game of rugby union

649
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Speaker 3: and reassuring to know that the shield still has gravity,

650
00:32:40,987 --> 00:32:44,787
Speaker 3: it still has weight, and hopefully with that weight it

651
00:32:44,787 --> 00:32:47,667
Speaker 3: won't be dropped to the floor and smashed by the

652
00:32:48,027 --> 00:32:51,987
Speaker 3: muckle or utilized in any other fashion. Let's get on

653
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Speaker 3: to our next call. Going back to the ABS, I

654
00:32:53,867 --> 00:32:56,427
Speaker 3: think Phil high.

655
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Speaker 21: Oh kid, I see how you doing?

656
00:32:57,907 --> 00:32:58,227
Speaker 20: You good?

657
00:32:58,267 --> 00:32:58,707
Speaker 3: What's up?

658
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Speaker 11: Oh?

659
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Speaker 21: Very frustrating game that last night. I got up at

660
00:33:03,147 --> 00:33:05,827
Speaker 21: three am to watch it.

661
00:33:05,827 --> 00:33:06,867
Speaker 22: Actually, callers are.

662
00:33:06,787 --> 00:33:08,907
Speaker 21: Bringing up some good points that I hadn't thought about

663
00:33:08,947 --> 00:33:12,747
Speaker 21: too while I've been listening about maybe have we got

664
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Speaker 21: a game running, you know, a game player in that

665
00:33:15,227 --> 00:33:20,107
Speaker 21: throust five? Now is themat capable of doing that? Maybe not? Well,

666
00:33:20,187 --> 00:33:22,387
Speaker 21: maybe time will tell. Molves Early in and when I

667
00:33:22,427 --> 00:33:25,867
Speaker 21: listened to the break the panel afterwards was said, maybe

668
00:33:25,867 --> 00:33:27,747
Speaker 21: we just got to face the fact that, you know,

669
00:33:28,067 --> 00:33:30,947
Speaker 21: we've just got to take a couple of years for

670
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Speaker 21: this all black team to geel and get to where

671
00:33:33,747 --> 00:33:36,307
Speaker 21: we were, you know, because it's a new process and

672
00:33:36,347 --> 00:33:41,787
Speaker 21: we're learning. But yeah, what was what I found frustrating

673
00:33:41,867 --> 00:33:45,107
Speaker 21: was like I thought, I actually thought that they played

674
00:33:45,107 --> 00:33:47,867
Speaker 21: better last week in the harder conditions in terms of

675
00:33:47,907 --> 00:33:50,467
Speaker 21: the higher altitude, and as soon as that game started,

676
00:33:50,507 --> 00:33:52,587
Speaker 21: I just thought, oh, we're going to be struggling to

677
00:33:52,627 --> 00:33:55,867
Speaker 21: win this one. And throughout the game. One of the

678
00:33:55,907 --> 00:33:59,187
Speaker 21: things interesting about saying about the attack coach, you know,

679
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Speaker 21: in the situation with McDonald even and looking at our attack,

680
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Speaker 21: because at times we looked like we were going to

681
00:34:05,627 --> 00:34:07,427
Speaker 21: break through, but we just couldn't. And then they got

682
00:34:07,467 --> 00:34:10,307
Speaker 21: frustrated and tried to throw those fifty to fifty passes

683
00:34:10,387 --> 00:34:13,507
Speaker 21: quick to create something that really quick and hope. But

684
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Speaker 21: a lot of the time too, I noticed last night

685
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Speaker 21: made it so frustrating was when we were on attack,

686
00:34:20,827 --> 00:34:23,267
Speaker 21: a lot of time we bumbled the last pass or

687
00:34:23,267 --> 00:34:23,827
Speaker 21: fumbled it.

688
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Speaker 19: You know.

689
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Speaker 21: There was the time when we were right up while

690
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Speaker 21: their goal line. Is just one example. Yeah, when one

691
00:34:29,067 --> 00:34:31,427
Speaker 21: Barrett brother threw the throw the ball to the other

692
00:34:31,427 --> 00:34:33,187
Speaker 21: Barrett brother and it hit him in the chest or

693
00:34:33,187 --> 00:34:34,867
Speaker 21: the face or falcon it, you know, because he was

694
00:34:34,907 --> 00:34:37,627
Speaker 21: didn't even expecting it. And just things like that happened

695
00:34:37,947 --> 00:34:39,147
Speaker 21: all throughout that game.

696
00:34:40,907 --> 00:34:44,147
Speaker 3: TJ Parrenara Petty Nara to Barrett. I'm not because I

697
00:34:44,147 --> 00:34:48,187
Speaker 3: heard Barrett and Barrett when on the commentary, But regardless,

698
00:34:48,227 --> 00:34:50,827
Speaker 3: it doesn't matter. I appreciate. I know what you're saying, Phil,

699
00:34:50,867 --> 00:34:54,027
Speaker 3: and that that accuracy, which I've been banging on about

700
00:34:54,027 --> 00:34:57,147
Speaker 3: for twenty years, was a huge difference from the All

701
00:34:57,187 --> 00:35:00,827
Speaker 3: Blacks and other teams. And if you can't seal that

702
00:35:00,947 --> 00:35:04,467
Speaker 3: at key moments, not going to win the pressure that

703
00:35:04,507 --> 00:35:08,227
Speaker 3: the opposition put on you. You can apply that concept

704
00:35:08,267 --> 00:35:13,467
Speaker 3: of accuracy successfully, It's huge. That's what the South Africans do.

705
00:35:13,867 --> 00:35:15,987
Speaker 3: Your decision making us to be so fast, you're actually

706
00:35:16,107 --> 00:35:19,107
Speaker 3: so on point, and in those cases it's not great.

707
00:35:19,147 --> 00:35:26,347
Speaker 3: Martin and I well, Martin, have you deserted me? There

708
00:35:26,387 --> 00:35:28,667
Speaker 3: we go, Martin, lay it on the line. What have

709
00:35:28,707 --> 00:35:29,107
Speaker 3: you got?

710
00:35:30,027 --> 00:35:30,507
Speaker 14: Oh yeah?

711
00:35:30,587 --> 00:35:35,027
Speaker 23: Interesting? I think you know, I think some caller is

712
00:35:35,027 --> 00:35:37,467
Speaker 23: a bit harsh and on McKenzie, I think it's time

713
00:35:37,547 --> 00:35:41,587
Speaker 23: and the seven he needs, and I think, you know,

714
00:35:41,987 --> 00:35:44,027
Speaker 23: we're going to take some positives out of the game.

715
00:35:45,227 --> 00:35:48,107
Speaker 23: You know, I thought the first time up, I thought

716
00:35:48,147 --> 00:35:50,347
Speaker 23: he had a tremendous game Okay, he might have missed

717
00:35:50,387 --> 00:35:53,227
Speaker 23: one tingle be on the side there down the blind side,

718
00:35:53,267 --> 00:35:56,747
Speaker 23: but you know, in general he ran hard. I thought, bye,

719
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Speaker 23: he had and I thought he had a great day.

720
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Speaker 3: He really is looking the goods, isn't he. I mean

721
00:36:02,987 --> 00:36:05,467
Speaker 3: patch of twee plowto gone. But but he's really grown

722
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Speaker 3: into that role.

723
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Speaker 14: I fully agree.

724
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Speaker 23: And I think, you know, there'll be a few callers

725
00:36:10,587 --> 00:36:13,667
Speaker 23: out your you know, schoolwards would be thinking I was

726
00:36:13,787 --> 00:36:16,347
Speaker 23: value the man, But you know what, he's grown into it,

727
00:36:16,387 --> 00:36:20,067
Speaker 23: and I think I think that's exciting. I think, you know,

728
00:36:20,347 --> 00:36:23,627
Speaker 23: as you say, it's hard over there, and I just think, look,

729
00:36:23,947 --> 00:36:25,227
Speaker 23: we're not that far away.

730
00:36:25,387 --> 00:36:25,587
Speaker 11: You know.

731
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Speaker 19: I think low mix.

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Speaker 23: I think what you pointed out fatigue, I think that

733
00:36:30,867 --> 00:36:31,587
Speaker 23: was a fact of it.

734
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Speaker 19: Deafinitely.

735
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Speaker 23: I think he should have been pulled probably five minutes earlier. Penalty.

736
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Speaker 23: He gave a way a penalty down down in their

737
00:36:39,867 --> 00:36:43,347
Speaker 23: twenty two clapped and I think he should have been

738
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Speaker 23: pulled then. So I don't understand why they didn't clear.

739
00:36:47,667 --> 00:36:49,227
Speaker 23: You know, they had three more on the bench. I

740
00:36:49,307 --> 00:36:52,227
Speaker 23: know what happened the previous week, but I mean, hey,

741
00:36:52,787 --> 00:36:54,827
Speaker 23: that's what it's about. I mean, you've got to give

742
00:36:54,867 --> 00:36:58,067
Speaker 23: these guys time pressure, you know, on the field.

743
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Speaker 14: So you know what I'm not.

744
00:37:01,267 --> 00:37:04,627
Speaker 23: You know, I'm not too upset by the result. I mean,

745
00:37:04,987 --> 00:37:07,467
Speaker 23: all I see is that I think we're going forward,

746
00:37:07,507 --> 00:37:09,307
Speaker 23: and I think that's the most important thing.

747
00:37:09,387 --> 00:37:14,147
Speaker 3: Martin lovely positivity. It's a whip, it's a work in progress.

748
00:37:14,307 --> 00:37:19,347
Speaker 3: So summarize some texts shortly just before one o'clock, Carl,

749
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Speaker 3: give it.

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00:37:22,787 --> 00:37:23,947
Speaker 11: Haven't go good?

751
00:37:25,947 --> 00:37:29,267
Speaker 22: I just want to how many of you listeners know

752
00:37:29,347 --> 00:37:31,907
Speaker 22: what position Boden Bear it played when he got planner

753
00:37:31,907 --> 00:37:40,387
Speaker 22: in the year? No Boden Bear? Yes? What the hell

754
00:37:40,987 --> 00:37:44,187
Speaker 22: are the all back sleectors trying to fires into full

755
00:37:44,227 --> 00:37:46,507
Speaker 22: backs and wings under full becks or full backs and

756
00:37:46,587 --> 00:37:49,747
Speaker 22: the wings there? Give mccrack I can't do any worse

757
00:37:49,787 --> 00:37:52,587
Speaker 22: than what they've done. Of what's raiser As somebody said,

758
00:37:52,627 --> 00:37:56,307
Speaker 22: he's just supposed he's lost three games. Get Bear a

759
00:37:56,347 --> 00:37:59,587
Speaker 22: shot put mckensey. Beck's bringing it on you counter attacking,

760
00:37:59,627 --> 00:38:01,267
Speaker 22: and get Will Dordan back on the wing.

761
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Speaker 3: Well, there's a lot of things to think about, Carl.

762
00:38:03,667 --> 00:38:06,747
Speaker 3: And the sad thing about this is that the next

763
00:38:06,907 --> 00:38:09,827
Speaker 3: team that they're playing, and the Wallabies, and we're not

764
00:38:09,907 --> 00:38:14,747
Speaker 3: going to learn anything. Waller Bees were on a bit

765
00:38:14,747 --> 00:38:16,627
Speaker 3: of a tear for the first half and then they

766
00:38:16,667 --> 00:38:19,587
Speaker 3: got rolled by Argentina. Now Argentina are a good team.

767
00:38:19,627 --> 00:38:22,507
Speaker 3: They beat us. They ain't me wrong, but I don't

768
00:38:22,547 --> 00:38:25,547
Speaker 3: know if the Wallabies have got anything. So we'll play

769
00:38:25,587 --> 00:38:29,187
Speaker 3: them and we'll retain the letters loow Cup and everyone.

770
00:38:29,227 --> 00:38:30,907
Speaker 3: I'll go, we're back on the right track again, but

771
00:38:31,147 --> 00:38:33,667
Speaker 3: yet really against the tenth best team in the world.

772
00:38:34,707 --> 00:38:38,787
Speaker 3: Not looking good. Quick text summary because someone said, why

773
00:38:38,827 --> 00:38:40,867
Speaker 3: don't you just summarize the text, get someone else to

774
00:38:40,907 --> 00:38:44,827
Speaker 3: read it. We haven't got enough staff really work hard

775
00:38:44,827 --> 00:38:48,187
Speaker 3: at a McDonald. I'll summarize the text for you. People

776
00:38:48,187 --> 00:38:52,027
Speaker 3: are ripping on Damien McKenzie. They really are in the text,

777
00:38:52,067 --> 00:38:54,667
Speaker 3: and I won't read them verbatim because some of them

778
00:38:54,667 --> 00:38:58,427
Speaker 3: are a wee bit nasty. There's a lot talking about

779
00:38:58,547 --> 00:39:01,987
Speaker 3: Muanga and saying he really wasn't all that anyway, and

780
00:39:02,067 --> 00:39:04,467
Speaker 3: he made his own decision to go overseas so he

781
00:39:04,507 --> 00:39:07,387
Speaker 3: didn't get drop kicked by the union. He went over

782
00:39:07,427 --> 00:39:09,987
Speaker 3: for money to feed his family, and good on him.

783
00:39:09,987 --> 00:39:12,827
Speaker 3: It's one that says, look, Hoskins Setutu should have been

784
00:39:12,827 --> 00:39:15,307
Speaker 3: in the side that was a big mistake that he

785
00:39:15,347 --> 00:39:19,787
Speaker 3: would have matched the strength of the bock Ford's fair court.

786
00:39:20,027 --> 00:39:22,547
Speaker 3: All I can say is go the poolas see some

787
00:39:22,587 --> 00:39:27,107
Speaker 3: awesome rugby in this morning camera. Reguard makes a difference.

788
00:39:27,147 --> 00:39:30,147
Speaker 3: A few texts have said that other people have defended

789
00:39:30,227 --> 00:39:34,387
Speaker 3: Mackenzie saying, look, this is one particular text. The root

790
00:39:34,427 --> 00:39:37,107
Speaker 3: causes a poor decision making by the coach and the

791
00:39:37,147 --> 00:39:40,067
Speaker 3: initial selection and the use of the bench. You can't

792
00:39:40,147 --> 00:39:43,907
Speaker 3: lay it all on Mackenzie. That speak of mental blocks

793
00:39:44,027 --> 00:39:47,907
Speaker 3: in the all black teams and talk of Ian Foster

794
00:39:48,507 --> 00:39:51,587
Speaker 3: and how he must be feeling right now after he

795
00:39:51,667 --> 00:39:56,587
Speaker 3: got well pillared by everybody after his results and looking

796
00:39:56,627 --> 00:39:59,467
Speaker 3: down to Braser and going whoa. But it's not a

797
00:39:59,507 --> 00:40:01,827
Speaker 3: case of bringing back Fozzy raises it from now on.

798
00:40:01,907 --> 00:40:05,227
Speaker 3: He's got four more years so we've got to run

799
00:40:05,267 --> 00:40:09,427
Speaker 3: with it right. We have to this this news talks eb.

800
00:40:09,507 --> 00:40:11,507
Speaker 3: You're on Weekend Sport. My name is Darcy Walter Grave.

801
00:40:11,747 --> 00:40:13,907
Speaker 3: Great to have you all on board. You keep those

802
00:40:13,947 --> 00:40:16,867
Speaker 3: texts running in. I'll try my best to lay them

803
00:40:16,867 --> 00:40:21,427
Speaker 3: out on you between now and three o'clock coming up shortly.

804
00:40:21,507 --> 00:40:25,387
Speaker 3: It's News Sport and weather up after that We're going

805
00:40:25,427 --> 00:40:27,387
Speaker 3: to talk to the successful Anna.

806
00:40:27,267 --> 00:40:33,587
Speaker 2: GRIMALTI analyzing every view from every angle in the Sporting

807
00:40:33,627 --> 00:40:37,827
Speaker 2: world Weekend Sport News Talk ZB.

808
00:40:39,947 --> 00:40:42,987
Speaker 3: A few texts around, where's Razor Robinson? Why didn't he

809
00:40:43,027 --> 00:40:45,867
Speaker 3: front the media at the end of the game, Well

810
00:40:45,947 --> 00:40:49,107
Speaker 3: he was on Telly. I don't think that ZB the

811
00:40:49,267 --> 00:40:54,267
Speaker 3: sole media. I really don't tumo Ty Allison maybe not

812
00:40:54,427 --> 00:41:00,147
Speaker 3: the most active talker there is. I think out of

813
00:41:00,187 --> 00:41:02,787
Speaker 3: all the coaches, it's god Is and I really enjoyed

814
00:41:02,787 --> 00:41:07,027
Speaker 3: talking to Jason Ryan is there to coach, not to

815
00:41:07,147 --> 00:41:09,467
Speaker 3: talk to the media. We got what we could out

816
00:41:09,467 --> 00:41:11,707
Speaker 3: of them, and I thank the All Blacks for putting

817
00:41:11,747 --> 00:41:14,747
Speaker 3: them up and putting them on the program. Right, we

818
00:41:14,907 --> 00:41:17,627
Speaker 3: got them, we chatted to them, so be it, and

819
00:41:17,667 --> 00:41:22,827
Speaker 3: that winds up the hour of All Black angst outplayed.

820
00:41:25,187 --> 00:41:28,707
Speaker 3: I was more upset last week at the inability to

821
00:41:28,787 --> 00:41:31,667
Speaker 3: play in the last twenty. This time around, we just

822
00:41:31,747 --> 00:41:33,667
Speaker 3: got beaten.

823
00:41:34,307 --> 00:41:37,187
Speaker 1: The only place to discuss the biggest sports issues on

824
00:41:37,587 --> 00:41:41,267
Speaker 1: and after fields, it's all on weekends Ford on your

825
00:41:41,307 --> 00:41:44,707
Speaker 1: home of Sport News Talk Siby What.

826
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Speaker 8: We're going.

827
00:41:52,267 --> 00:41:55,147
Speaker 3: Seven after one on a Sunday Act of September twenty

828
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Speaker 3: twenty four. This is weekend Sport on Darcy Water Grove,

829
00:41:58,547 --> 00:42:01,187
Speaker 3: sitting in for Jason Pine. Two more hours to go

830
00:42:01,747 --> 00:42:06,347
Speaker 3: coming up, and there's an hour. Well we've got for you, cam.

831
00:42:06,707 --> 00:42:10,387
Speaker 3: But after the hero of the Muckle picked up the

832
00:42:10,427 --> 00:42:13,187
Speaker 3: Ramfhilly Shield for the first time, took it away from

833
00:42:13,227 --> 00:42:16,987
Speaker 3: the bay, he joins us. Later, James mcconey is back

834
00:42:17,147 --> 00:42:19,867
Speaker 3: in New Zealand. I'll have a word with him as well.

835
00:42:21,947 --> 00:42:26,547
Speaker 3: They're coming out here and now we're gonna have a

836
00:42:26,547 --> 00:42:32,867
Speaker 3: conversation with a woman who did us all proud. She

837
00:42:33,027 --> 00:42:37,467
Speaker 3: picked up the very first gold medal at the Paralympics.

838
00:42:37,507 --> 00:42:43,027
Speaker 3: She joins us. Now her name is Ana Gramalley and

839
00:42:43,467 --> 00:42:46,667
Speaker 3: hang in there, take a listen to this. On the

840
00:42:46,707 --> 00:42:47,827
Speaker 3: inside of the New Zealand.

841
00:42:47,827 --> 00:42:51,467
Speaker 5: I say, he's looking supremely good. She disappointed and the

842
00:42:51,467 --> 00:42:54,347
Speaker 5: long jug finishing and fourth position, but she's looking up.

843
00:42:54,267 --> 00:42:55,147
Speaker 8: At the screen already.

844
00:42:55,187 --> 00:42:57,987
Speaker 5: It's going to be Ana Gramaldi who takes it. Brittany Mason,

845
00:42:58,027 --> 00:43:04,067
Speaker 5: I think has taken the silver medal. But what a

846
00:43:04,187 --> 00:43:11,787
Speaker 5: performance from Ana Gramaldi. It is a new OC record, well.

847
00:43:11,627 --> 00:43:13,787
Speaker 8: A lifetime best. An OCA record.

848
00:43:13,907 --> 00:43:17,147
Speaker 5: Twenty four zero point seven to two is the champion

849
00:43:17,427 --> 00:43:20,187
Speaker 5: in the T forty seven women's two hundred meters final.

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Speaker 3: Wow, and what a desk there was, Anna, we are

851
00:43:23,667 --> 00:43:27,147
Speaker 3: so proud of you. A ripping time for you over night.

852
00:43:27,227 --> 00:43:29,787
Speaker 3: Of course in the evening you said on time, first

853
00:43:29,787 --> 00:43:34,707
Speaker 3: thing this morning, this time around qualifying final itself, tearing

854
00:43:34,907 --> 00:43:36,547
Speaker 3: away for gold.

855
00:43:38,027 --> 00:43:38,667
Speaker 24: Yeah you could.

856
00:43:38,667 --> 00:43:41,907
Speaker 25: Oh, thanks for having me, honest, and you've been such

857
00:43:42,387 --> 00:43:45,307
Speaker 25: a crazy forty eight hours to me. Yeah, I could

858
00:43:45,347 --> 00:43:47,467
Speaker 25: see it on the big screen that I was in front,

859
00:43:47,547 --> 00:43:49,707
Speaker 25: and I knew that I wasn't going to let anyone

860
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Speaker 25: pass me. I wasn't I wasn't running out of guess

861
00:43:51,947 --> 00:43:52,707
Speaker 25: before the line.

862
00:43:53,587 --> 00:43:54,387
Speaker 24: Yeah, I couldn't hide.

863
00:43:54,467 --> 00:43:56,787
Speaker 25: I think I would be terrible playing poker because I

864
00:43:56,787 --> 00:44:00,947
Speaker 25: would give way fight a great hand like immediately. So yeah, yeah,

865
00:44:01,147 --> 00:44:03,187
Speaker 25: it's hard to keep it in though prolemic.

866
00:44:02,867 --> 00:44:05,427
Speaker 3: Champ must be hard to keep it in. But there

867
00:44:05,467 --> 00:44:08,587
Speaker 3: must have been a p when you got out in front.

868
00:44:08,667 --> 00:44:11,907
Speaker 3: You when and don't mess this up from now?

869
00:44:13,107 --> 00:44:13,307
Speaker 11: Yeah?

870
00:44:13,307 --> 00:44:15,547
Speaker 25: There were always is I mean, there's always an opportunity

871
00:44:15,627 --> 00:44:18,467
Speaker 25: to miss it up, and I think, yeah, I just knew.

872
00:44:18,507 --> 00:44:20,547
Speaker 24: I just knew that, like I had enough in me

873
00:44:20,947 --> 00:44:21,867
Speaker 24: to get to that line.

874
00:44:21,907 --> 00:44:24,467
Speaker 25: And I would have fought with everything in my body

875
00:44:24,507 --> 00:44:28,107
Speaker 25: to get there and to run such a good time

876
00:44:28,147 --> 00:44:31,547
Speaker 25: as well, Like I'm yeah, I'm incredibly I'm just proud

877
00:44:31,547 --> 00:44:34,107
Speaker 25: of that alone. I would have been over the moon

878
00:44:34,147 --> 00:44:35,827
Speaker 25: with just that time and for it.

879
00:44:35,747 --> 00:44:38,707
Speaker 3: To be a gold is incredible and Oceania record I

880
00:44:38,747 --> 00:44:41,987
Speaker 3: believe in oh so close to a world record too.

881
00:44:42,387 --> 00:44:44,787
Speaker 25: No, I can't believe that actually that time, that that

882
00:44:44,907 --> 00:44:46,987
Speaker 25: time's crazy, like the time from this morning. I was

883
00:44:47,027 --> 00:44:49,827
Speaker 25: incredibly shocked and like proud with that. And then I

884
00:44:50,067 --> 00:44:53,107
Speaker 25: knew that I'd slowed down, and so I guess just

885
00:44:53,187 --> 00:44:57,027
Speaker 25: trusting that I had to give everything tonight and that

886
00:44:57,107 --> 00:45:00,547
Speaker 25: I could give everything I'd trained for this, and I

887
00:45:00,627 --> 00:45:04,107
Speaker 25: knew that I me as a person, my personality wouldn't

888
00:45:04,107 --> 00:45:06,627
Speaker 25: even let this opportunity get away with that in a

889
00:45:06,667 --> 00:45:09,467
Speaker 25: really good crack, And yeah, that's what we did.

890
00:45:09,907 --> 00:45:12,227
Speaker 3: So you knew toward the end that you were winning

891
00:45:12,267 --> 00:45:15,467
Speaker 3: the race? What about round the Beam? Did that flick

892
00:45:15,587 --> 00:45:18,867
Speaker 3: through your thought? Like, hold on, I'm in the lead here,

893
00:45:19,027 --> 00:45:20,267
Speaker 3: talk us through that period?

894
00:45:21,027 --> 00:45:23,467
Speaker 25: Yeah, for sure, I think, like to be honest, like

895
00:45:23,507 --> 00:45:25,227
Speaker 25: we were talking about it in the middle area and

896
00:45:25,267 --> 00:45:26,987
Speaker 25: we were saying like we could have been the only

897
00:45:27,027 --> 00:45:29,347
Speaker 25: ones on the track, Like it felt like it was silent,

898
00:45:29,427 --> 00:45:31,427
Speaker 25: but I know it was so loud because the crowd

899
00:45:31,507 --> 00:45:36,267
Speaker 25: is incredible, And I think, yeah, I think I knew

900
00:45:36,307 --> 00:45:37,707
Speaker 25: just as we were coming off the ben that I

901
00:45:37,787 --> 00:45:39,867
Speaker 25: was in the front. But it's like, not a time

902
00:45:39,867 --> 00:45:42,227
Speaker 25: to get complacent. These girls have probably ran far more

903
00:45:42,227 --> 00:45:44,907
Speaker 25: twos than I have. And I also didn't really know

904
00:45:44,987 --> 00:45:47,067
Speaker 25: what my body was capable of. I knew that it

905
00:45:47,107 --> 00:45:49,347
Speaker 25: could blow up, like I'm used to running thirty minutes

906
00:45:49,427 --> 00:45:51,267
Speaker 25: six times and with a jump.

907
00:45:51,027 --> 00:45:52,947
Speaker 24: At the end, and so you never know, like am

908
00:45:52,987 --> 00:45:55,347
Speaker 24: I going to make it to the end, But you

909
00:45:55,547 --> 00:45:58,707
Speaker 24: know I knew I was and with a shot.

910
00:45:58,747 --> 00:46:01,787
Speaker 25: If I could get in the lead hitting onto the strait,

911
00:46:01,867 --> 00:46:04,387
Speaker 25: or even not in the lead, I could be up

912
00:46:04,427 --> 00:46:05,867
Speaker 25: near the leader, I'd have a shot it.

913
00:46:06,107 --> 00:46:10,147
Speaker 3: When Yeah, Paralympic turned to meet a gold Medalistan Grimaldi

914
00:46:10,227 --> 00:46:13,307
Speaker 3: joining us, tell us about the time between when the

915
00:46:13,707 --> 00:46:17,827
Speaker 3: qualifying finished and the race itself actually started. That would

916
00:46:17,827 --> 00:46:21,747
Speaker 3: have been a very interesting period to be in your head.

917
00:46:22,107 --> 00:46:23,067
Speaker 3: What did you go through?

918
00:46:23,467 --> 00:46:26,267
Speaker 25: Yeah, I think it's been funny because I haven't really

919
00:46:26,867 --> 00:46:27,787
Speaker 25: ran that many two's.

920
00:46:28,947 --> 00:46:31,227
Speaker 24: I ran them earlier.

921
00:46:30,867 --> 00:46:32,827
Speaker 25: On in my career, and then I broke my foot

922
00:46:32,827 --> 00:46:34,907
Speaker 25: the last time I tried to run one professionally at

923
00:46:34,907 --> 00:46:38,867
Speaker 25: the game at a World Champs, and we decided I'd

924
00:46:38,987 --> 00:46:40,987
Speaker 25: even do them again, So she just threw it out.

925
00:46:40,827 --> 00:46:41,347
Speaker 24: Of my mind.

926
00:46:41,507 --> 00:46:43,827
Speaker 25: And then last year's World Champs rolled around and I

927
00:46:43,867 --> 00:46:46,627
Speaker 25: remember watching the final and going, you know what, I

928
00:46:46,667 --> 00:46:49,107
Speaker 25: think it's time to have that conversation about maybe doing

929
00:46:49,147 --> 00:46:51,427
Speaker 25: the two hundred again, and my coach was fully on board,

930
00:46:53,627 --> 00:46:56,467
Speaker 25: and I think this morning I was quite nervous because

931
00:46:56,467 --> 00:46:58,827
Speaker 25: I actually didn't know what I was capable of running.

932
00:46:58,827 --> 00:47:01,387
Speaker 25: I mean, I knew I was probably a pretty good

933
00:47:01,467 --> 00:47:04,347
Speaker 25: knock after that one hundred, and to be the now

934
00:47:05,627 --> 00:47:09,227
Speaker 25: in a position and after that, after that first race,

935
00:47:09,907 --> 00:47:12,027
Speaker 25: I think it just instilled a lot of confidence in

936
00:47:12,307 --> 00:47:14,507
Speaker 25: me that I knew that put me in a race

937
00:47:14,547 --> 00:47:17,547
Speaker 25: with anyone, and I will fight till I can't buy

938
00:47:17,587 --> 00:47:20,947
Speaker 25: any more to get to the line. And yeah, I mean,

939
00:47:21,347 --> 00:47:24,107
Speaker 25: I just think it relaxed me because I now knew

940
00:47:24,147 --> 00:47:26,147
Speaker 25: how fast second I could run, and.

941
00:47:27,507 --> 00:47:29,707
Speaker 24: Yeah, and then then faster again, which is even crazier.

942
00:47:30,107 --> 00:47:32,347
Speaker 3: What happens now? Do you drop everything else and just

943
00:47:32,427 --> 00:47:34,587
Speaker 3: become a sol two hundred meters specialist.

944
00:47:35,107 --> 00:47:37,867
Speaker 24: Yeah, I don't know. No, I don't know at the moment.

945
00:47:37,907 --> 00:47:43,947
Speaker 25: I'm on holiday already and I'll be obviously well reflect

946
00:47:44,027 --> 00:47:44,707
Speaker 25: on everything.

947
00:47:44,747 --> 00:47:45,867
Speaker 24: I mean the long time.

948
00:47:45,947 --> 00:47:49,307
Speaker 25: Yesterday was really hard for me because because that's my

949
00:47:49,387 --> 00:47:51,347
Speaker 25: bread and butter, that's what I love to do and

950
00:47:51,627 --> 00:47:53,307
Speaker 25: what I'm good at as well, and it was just

951
00:47:53,347 --> 00:47:54,987
Speaker 25: hard to not be able to show up the way

952
00:47:55,027 --> 00:47:58,827
Speaker 25: I wanted to yesterday. But I got so many incredible,

953
00:47:59,187 --> 00:48:04,507
Speaker 25: incredibly supporting and loving comments yesterday and messages and just

954
00:48:04,987 --> 00:48:07,587
Speaker 25: from people I don't even know, so just saying how

955
00:48:07,627 --> 00:48:11,267
Speaker 25: proud of me they were, And I think that really

956
00:48:11,267 --> 00:48:15,627
Speaker 25: spurred me on for this, hearing that everyone you know,

957
00:48:15,987 --> 00:48:19,227
Speaker 25: still was interested in me, still believed in me, regardless

958
00:48:19,227 --> 00:48:20,227
Speaker 25: of how I did in the long jump.

959
00:48:20,307 --> 00:48:23,347
Speaker 3: So yeah, after that long jump, you'd be harder on

960
00:48:23,387 --> 00:48:27,027
Speaker 3: yourself than anybody possibly could be. So when you went

961
00:48:27,107 --> 00:48:30,347
Speaker 3: into the ton of meters, was it a case of

962
00:48:30,827 --> 00:48:33,987
Speaker 3: revenge for the long jump? Jumping through your mind?

963
00:48:34,707 --> 00:48:37,867
Speaker 25: I did say revenge, and I mean I wanted revenge

964
00:48:37,867 --> 00:48:40,987
Speaker 25: on the two hundred race. The last two races I ran,

965
00:48:41,107 --> 00:48:43,107
Speaker 25: I ran in Rio and I stepped on the line

966
00:48:43,107 --> 00:48:46,667
Speaker 25: and got disqualified and then my last two hundred race

967
00:48:46,907 --> 00:48:53,387
Speaker 25: at a Champs was in London the year after, and and.

968
00:48:51,987 --> 00:48:52,947
Speaker 24: And I broke my foot.

969
00:48:53,067 --> 00:48:54,867
Speaker 25: I mean, I'd been having trouble with my foot, but

970
00:48:54,947 --> 00:48:57,707
Speaker 25: it really gave out mid race. And so I knew

971
00:48:57,987 --> 00:48:59,827
Speaker 25: I loved doing the two hundred back then, and I

972
00:48:59,907 --> 00:49:01,867
Speaker 25: knew I wanted to eventually do it. But we did

973
00:49:01,907 --> 00:49:04,147
Speaker 25: just take it off the cards, like we decided. We

974
00:49:04,227 --> 00:49:08,587
Speaker 25: decided to we decided to not run it ever again,

975
00:49:08,707 --> 00:49:11,147
Speaker 25: like that was it. We'd signed it off. And I

976
00:49:11,147 --> 00:49:13,467
Speaker 25: think being able to be in a position I trust

977
00:49:13,507 --> 00:49:15,507
Speaker 25: in my body enough to handle the training and to

978
00:49:15,587 --> 00:49:17,587
Speaker 25: handle being out there on the track and running the bend,

979
00:49:17,627 --> 00:49:21,627
Speaker 25: I think, yeah, I wanted some revenge on that event.

980
00:49:21,707 --> 00:49:22,547
Speaker 20: It had been mean to.

981
00:49:22,427 --> 00:49:24,187
Speaker 24: Me, and I wanted I wanted to get it back.

982
00:49:24,627 --> 00:49:27,947
Speaker 3: You've had a pretty successful games and a grimordy so far.

983
00:49:28,587 --> 00:49:31,467
Speaker 3: The gold obviously the cherry on the top at the

984
00:49:31,787 --> 00:49:35,027
Speaker 3: end of that, but looking back at the whole process

985
00:49:35,147 --> 00:49:37,827
Speaker 3: and the whole games, I expect you you carry that

986
00:49:38,067 --> 00:49:41,067
Speaker 3: quite lightly. You'd be absolutely stoked.

987
00:49:42,187 --> 00:49:45,427
Speaker 24: Yeah, for sure, I'm so. I'm so happy.

988
00:49:45,427 --> 00:49:49,467
Speaker 25: I mean, I would be incredibly happy regardless of the

989
00:49:49,507 --> 00:49:50,507
Speaker 25: outcome tonight like.

990
00:49:50,467 --> 00:49:51,907
Speaker 24: I've put I've put forward.

991
00:49:52,027 --> 00:49:54,507
Speaker 25: I put myself out there more than I ever have before,

992
00:49:54,627 --> 00:49:57,907
Speaker 25: and that hundred was was more than I.

993
00:49:57,827 --> 00:49:58,667
Speaker 24: Could have hoped for.

994
00:49:59,027 --> 00:50:01,427
Speaker 25: And then today to be able to back it, and

995
00:50:02,467 --> 00:50:05,587
Speaker 25: with two TVs and the two like two massive TVs,

996
00:50:05,867 --> 00:50:09,347
Speaker 25: it was just, yeah, I'm really happy with how I

997
00:50:09,387 --> 00:50:12,627
Speaker 25: performed it and to be how to pick up from yesterday.

998
00:50:13,787 --> 00:50:16,107
Speaker 25: I don't think disappointed is the right word. And yesterday

999
00:50:16,107 --> 00:50:18,267
Speaker 25: I'll have to figure out what I how I feel

1000
00:50:18,307 --> 00:50:23,787
Speaker 25: about that, probably on a beach somewhere on holiday. But well, yeah,

1001
00:50:23,947 --> 00:50:26,027
Speaker 25: just how I was able to get back in there

1002
00:50:26,067 --> 00:50:27,347
Speaker 25: today and didn't let it discourage me.

1003
00:50:27,387 --> 00:50:29,427
Speaker 24: I think, Yeah, I'm really proud.

1004
00:50:29,827 --> 00:50:32,747
Speaker 3: We'll let you go shortly, Anna, and go and celebrate

1005
00:50:32,787 --> 00:50:36,987
Speaker 3: with your friends and your family, your Paralympic family and on.

1006
00:50:37,227 --> 00:50:41,267
Speaker 3: That enormously important for yourself to pick up the medals,

1007
00:50:41,307 --> 00:50:45,707
Speaker 3: but I'd expect just as important, if not more, for

1008
00:50:45,787 --> 00:50:47,067
Speaker 3: the team themselves.

1009
00:50:47,547 --> 00:50:48,187
Speaker 24: Yeah, I'm so.

1010
00:50:48,867 --> 00:50:50,787
Speaker 25: I feel so lucky to be part of such an

1011
00:50:50,827 --> 00:50:53,987
Speaker 25: awesome team. The vibe in the village is incredible. Everyone

1012
00:50:54,107 --> 00:50:57,187
Speaker 25: is wanting to see Rondo so well, and it has

1013
00:50:57,267 --> 00:51:00,787
Speaker 25: been so supportive of even me. Yesterday when I didn't

1014
00:51:00,787 --> 00:51:04,227
Speaker 25: do so well, and yeah, I can't wait to celebrate

1015
00:51:04,227 --> 00:51:07,227
Speaker 25: with them, especially tomorrow at the closing and been out

1016
00:51:07,267 --> 00:51:09,227
Speaker 25: a shit. I just think that's the best thing about

1017
00:51:09,227 --> 00:51:11,747
Speaker 25: being success was, or even getting to compete at.

1018
00:51:11,707 --> 00:51:13,507
Speaker 24: This level, is getting to share it with other people.

1019
00:51:13,547 --> 00:51:17,947
Speaker 25: And the games, the Paralympic Games are the most incredible thing.

1020
00:51:17,947 --> 00:51:18,987
Speaker 24: They changed my life.

1021
00:51:19,067 --> 00:51:19,627
Speaker 13: I was.

1022
00:51:21,267 --> 00:51:24,507
Speaker 25: Just I don't know, there's something's vicial. I hope they

1023
00:51:24,587 --> 00:51:27,947
Speaker 25: change other people's lives too, because it's yeah, it's changed mine.

1024
00:51:28,027 --> 00:51:31,267
Speaker 3: Thanks for joining us, and we're celebrating for you back

1025
00:51:31,267 --> 00:51:34,187
Speaker 3: here in ak Tirolla. You enjoy your time off knowing

1026
00:51:34,427 --> 00:51:37,627
Speaker 3: that you've got no rocks under your beach. TWL, thank

1027
00:51:37,667 --> 00:51:40,427
Speaker 3: you very much for pairing on the program and for

1028
00:51:40,507 --> 00:51:42,067
Speaker 3: doing what you did in Paris.

1029
00:51:42,707 --> 00:51:44,667
Speaker 24: Thank you so much, Thanks for having me.

1030
00:51:44,987 --> 00:51:49,187
Speaker 3: Thanks for joining us. Such delight, such joy. And Grimaldi

1031
00:51:49,227 --> 00:51:53,027
Speaker 3: there who are not only picked up the one hundred

1032
00:51:53,107 --> 00:51:56,787
Speaker 3: meter bronze in the T forty seven this morning it

1033
00:51:56,827 --> 00:51:58,987
Speaker 3: was around about five o'clock picked up the T forty

1034
00:51:59,027 --> 00:52:02,987
Speaker 3: seven two hundred gold and by quite the margin makes

1035
00:52:03,067 --> 00:52:05,107
Speaker 3: up for the fourth and the long jump of course,

1036
00:52:05,347 --> 00:52:09,787
Speaker 3: to time defend Paralympic champion in that's a discipline. But

1037
00:52:09,867 --> 00:52:12,267
Speaker 3: it's all okay now she's picked up the gold. What

1038
00:52:12,347 --> 00:52:14,587
Speaker 3: a time. She's had quick text on that as well.

1039
00:52:14,987 --> 00:52:19,187
Speaker 3: So happy for anage's win. But an amazing interview after

1040
00:52:19,227 --> 00:52:23,347
Speaker 3: the long jump will be my enduring memory of these games.

1041
00:52:23,387 --> 00:52:27,627
Speaker 3: She has a massive ticker and he thanks very much

1042
00:52:27,667 --> 00:52:30,827
Speaker 3: for that text and more on the Paralympics up after

1043
00:52:30,947 --> 00:52:34,707
Speaker 3: two o'clock will be joined by Dame Sophie Pasco. As

1044
00:52:34,747 --> 00:52:38,467
Speaker 3: we look at the Olympics, or the Paralympics as a whole,

1045
00:52:39,387 --> 00:52:42,987
Speaker 3: playing is not quite wound up yet. Closing ceremony up overnight,

1046
00:52:43,067 --> 00:52:47,707
Speaker 3: but she's been all over it of course. Nineteen medals,

1047
00:52:47,747 --> 00:52:51,587
Speaker 3: eleven golds, numerous world champions as well. One of our

1048
00:52:51,627 --> 00:52:56,187
Speaker 3: superstars of swimming at the Paralympics, it's Dame Toby Pasco

1049
00:52:56,307 --> 00:52:59,907
Speaker 3: joining us just after two o'clock. Now coming up short

1050
00:52:59,947 --> 00:53:02,707
Speaker 3: in the program at Campbell Parato will join the show.

1051
00:53:02,987 --> 00:53:06,267
Speaker 3: He was the superhero wearing the Muco cape up to

1052
00:53:06,467 --> 00:53:10,507
Speaker 3: Hawks Bay, fog in the shield literally in the last

1053
00:53:10,747 --> 00:53:14,747
Speaker 3: minutes back down South and defending it up against Wellington.

1054
00:53:14,867 --> 00:53:17,707
Speaker 3: Had a couple of texts for that as well, saying

1055
00:53:17,867 --> 00:53:20,027
Speaker 3: I'm not overly stoked, except for the fact that now

1056
00:53:20,067 --> 00:53:22,627
Speaker 3: Wellington gets try and take it back off them again.

1057
00:53:22,667 --> 00:53:27,227
Speaker 3: Now Wellington's still unbeaten, and again it'll be a clash

1058
00:53:27,267 --> 00:53:31,227
Speaker 3: of till unbeaten sides like it was yesterday between Hawks

1059
00:53:31,227 --> 00:53:35,907
Speaker 3: Bay and Tasman. Phenomenal stuff in the NPC. A couple

1060
00:53:35,947 --> 00:53:38,747
Speaker 3: of live sport updates for you as well. In the

1061
00:53:38,907 --> 00:53:43,147
Speaker 3: far Up Palmer Cup, the Wakata women's team. This is

1062
00:53:43,187 --> 00:53:46,827
Speaker 3: fifty two minutes through the game, leading Hawks Bay two

1063
00:53:47,267 --> 00:53:52,667
Speaker 3: twenty nine to twelve. Yesterday a few games went by

1064
00:53:53,067 --> 00:53:55,987
Speaker 3: one of the two cyclones betting at North Harbor Hibiscus

1065
00:53:56,027 --> 00:54:03,507
Speaker 3: thirty one nil. Wellington bested o'dago fifty one thirty Tasmin

1066
00:54:03,587 --> 00:54:07,387
Speaker 3: women they beat the Paderanaki woman thirty nine thirty six

1067
00:54:07,827 --> 00:54:10,907
Speaker 3: and the Northern Woman beat the Canterbury Sorry, the Northern

1068
00:54:10,947 --> 00:54:14,907
Speaker 3: woman got rolled by the Canterbury woman at twenty four zip.

1069
00:54:14,947 --> 00:54:18,907
Speaker 3: In the football, this is New Zealand the All Whites

1070
00:54:18,987 --> 00:54:23,547
Speaker 3: taking on Mexico. Mexico got off to a quick start

1071
00:54:23,627 --> 00:54:27,187
Speaker 3: where coming up twenty minutes in the game Mexico leading

1072
00:54:27,467 --> 00:54:31,467
Speaker 3: New Zealand one nil. And I won't tell you what's

1073
00:54:31,507 --> 00:54:33,267
Speaker 3: going on in the UFC because he's not really a

1074
00:54:33,267 --> 00:54:35,867
Speaker 3: score of run. It's just two four grown men covered

1075
00:54:35,867 --> 00:54:39,987
Speaker 3: in tattoos beating the absolute not out of each other.

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Speaker 3: This is News Talks AB. You're listening to Weekend Sport

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Speaker 3: on Darcy Watergrave. Coming up next, we're going to talk

1078
00:54:47,427 --> 00:54:52,347
Speaker 3: success in the shield. Mister Campbell Parata joins us here

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Speaker 3: on News Talks edb.

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Speaker 1: One crutch hold Ngage Weekends for us with GJ. Gugg

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00:55:01,347 --> 00:55:04,107
Speaker 1: homes New Zealand's most trusted overill Learn.

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00:55:04,027 --> 00:55:08,787
Speaker 3: News Talks a Baby one twenty three on Weekend Sport.

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00:55:08,907 --> 00:55:11,827
Speaker 3: What a day for the top of the South Island.

1084
00:55:12,107 --> 00:55:16,507
Speaker 3: Ran Philly shield is off there finally.

1085
00:55:17,267 --> 00:55:21,747
Speaker 8: In the left boot of Campbell Pudata. He's about forty.

1086
00:55:21,427 --> 00:55:24,907
Speaker 3: Eight meters from the posts thanks to Tamatama. Now why

1087
00:55:25,627 --> 00:55:26,707
Speaker 3: can they steal it?

1088
00:55:27,187 --> 00:55:27,787
Speaker 12: Hit the death?

1089
00:55:28,707 --> 00:55:32,987
Speaker 3: Pardata lines up the posts. He'll have the distance.

1090
00:55:33,267 --> 00:55:34,627
Speaker 8: He's got a good boot on him.

1091
00:55:34,867 --> 00:55:39,867
Speaker 5: Direction is key Parata towards the uprights and.

1092
00:55:40,067 --> 00:55:49,267
Speaker 3: That's over Tasmin Tasmin when the Renfurly shields for the

1093
00:55:49,307 --> 00:55:53,667
Speaker 3: first time in their young history. Okay, so not the

1094
00:55:53,707 --> 00:55:56,947
Speaker 3: first time to the top of the South Island. Because

1095
00:55:56,947 --> 00:55:59,347
Speaker 3: he's been here before. Ninety seventy three Marlborough managed to

1096
00:55:59,347 --> 00:56:05,267
Speaker 3: pick it up. But for Tasman Marco relatively new franchise.

1097
00:56:05,347 --> 00:56:10,747
Speaker 3: This new club can both Nelson and Marlborough, first time

1098
00:56:10,827 --> 00:56:13,107
Speaker 3: for them. Haven't been to Nelson before. Then, I love

1099
00:56:13,187 --> 00:56:17,307
Speaker 3: that so and he calm down. Bruh Andy McDonald's and

1100
00:56:17,307 --> 00:56:20,147
Speaker 3: Nelson boys still celebrating. Still jaheeing. I'm glad he didn't

1101
00:56:20,147 --> 00:56:23,387
Speaker 3: bring his jugg And that's fantastic. They picked up the

1102
00:56:23,387 --> 00:56:25,507
Speaker 3: shelf for the first time and now we're joined by

1103
00:56:25,587 --> 00:56:30,987
Speaker 3: the bloke get this on as a replacement eight minutes

1104
00:56:31,067 --> 00:56:34,307
Speaker 3: to go when he turned up. Suddenly he's the hero

1105
00:56:34,427 --> 00:56:38,947
Speaker 3: that kicks the match. When his name is Campbell, Parata Campbell,

1106
00:56:38,947 --> 00:56:43,467
Speaker 3: welcome to the show. Congratulations near I say it. How's

1107
00:56:43,547 --> 00:56:45,787
Speaker 3: your head? Must have been a big night last night.

1108
00:56:47,067 --> 00:56:48,427
Speaker 17: Yeah, it was a great night.

1109
00:56:49,387 --> 00:56:51,467
Speaker 15: We're just at the airport about to get on a

1110
00:56:51,507 --> 00:56:53,187
Speaker 15: flight back to back home.

1111
00:56:53,347 --> 00:56:56,507
Speaker 17: So now the boys are in good spirits day. It's awesome.

1112
00:56:56,867 --> 00:56:59,747
Speaker 3: The end of the game. I know another colleague of

1113
00:56:59,787 --> 00:57:02,187
Speaker 3: mine just about turn the TV off. He again is

1114
00:57:02,227 --> 00:57:04,307
Speaker 3: a Marco fan and he was going I can't cope

1115
00:57:04,347 --> 00:57:07,187
Speaker 3: with us. But the end was it was tough tother now,

1116
00:57:07,347 --> 00:57:09,667
Speaker 3: wasn't who went in there and caused the ruckers as

1117
00:57:09,707 --> 00:57:12,667
Speaker 3: they were trying to basically hang on to the ball

1118
00:57:13,027 --> 00:57:16,987
Speaker 3: and defend that lead the penalty. You basically ran straight

1119
00:57:17,027 --> 00:57:18,107
Speaker 3: and grabbed the ball, didn't you.

1120
00:57:19,787 --> 00:57:24,107
Speaker 15: Yeah, it's awesome, Like we we actually trained that simulation

1121
00:57:24,267 --> 00:57:27,427
Speaker 15: a lot, trying to try to get the ball back

1122
00:57:27,867 --> 00:57:30,347
Speaker 15: with a minute to go. So we have a play

1123
00:57:30,427 --> 00:57:31,947
Speaker 15: that we try to do. We get gym in there

1124
00:57:31,987 --> 00:57:35,947
Speaker 15: and it works, so we trained it and then yeah,

1125
00:57:35,947 --> 00:57:37,627
Speaker 15: I knew. I knew it was in my range when

1126
00:57:37,667 --> 00:57:40,587
Speaker 15: I seen where he got it from. So but it's awesome,

1127
00:57:40,787 --> 00:57:44,507
Speaker 15: like the boys backed me straight away. When you get

1128
00:57:44,507 --> 00:57:46,867
Speaker 15: that from the teammates, you know you have the confidence

1129
00:57:46,907 --> 00:57:47,867
Speaker 15: to have a shot.

1130
00:57:47,947 --> 00:57:50,707
Speaker 17: So I was pretty pretty happy that it went over

1131
00:57:50,827 --> 00:57:51,507
Speaker 17: over obviously.

1132
00:57:51,907 --> 00:57:56,627
Speaker 3: Okay, I've been told fifty forty six, forty seven, forty eight,

1133
00:57:56,707 --> 00:57:58,827
Speaker 3: doesn't matter. It was a long way, candle.

1134
00:58:01,027 --> 00:58:01,667
Speaker 17: Yeah, I don't know.

1135
00:58:02,747 --> 00:58:04,827
Speaker 15: I think one of our coaches picked some grass up

1136
00:58:04,827 --> 00:58:07,107
Speaker 15: from the spot after I kicked it, got it with him.

1137
00:58:07,147 --> 00:58:11,267
Speaker 17: So yeah, but we'll just say forty ish fortyish, isn't it.

1138
00:58:11,347 --> 00:58:14,987
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was a long long way and for you.

1139
00:58:16,907 --> 00:58:19,067
Speaker 3: Wasn't it your first touch of the ball since you

1140
00:58:19,227 --> 00:58:19,507
Speaker 3: come on?

1141
00:58:20,667 --> 00:58:24,427
Speaker 15: Yeah, so came on with eight to go. We're sort

1142
00:58:24,467 --> 00:58:26,867
Speaker 15: of on defense the whole time. They ended up scoring

1143
00:58:26,947 --> 00:58:30,587
Speaker 15: and then older in my seconds, I kicked kicked off

1144
00:58:30,627 --> 00:58:33,547
Speaker 15: after they scored, and then uh, the next next time

1145
00:58:33,587 --> 00:58:36,787
Speaker 15: I touched the balls was the kick. So yeah, it

1146
00:58:36,827 --> 00:58:41,147
Speaker 15: was awesome games come on and be able to do that,

1147
00:58:41,347 --> 00:58:45,707
Speaker 15: especially for for the region, but Nelson for Marlborough's.

1148
00:58:46,707 --> 00:58:49,747
Speaker 3: So talk to us about what was flying through your

1149
00:58:49,787 --> 00:58:52,707
Speaker 3: mind before you took that kick? What kind of kick

1150
00:58:52,747 --> 00:58:53,067
Speaker 3: your eye?

1151
00:58:53,387 --> 00:58:53,747
Speaker 11: Do you do?

1152
00:58:53,787 --> 00:58:55,787
Speaker 3: You do you picture it? Do you panic? Do you

1153
00:58:55,827 --> 00:58:57,867
Speaker 3: go into a blank? How does that work?

1154
00:58:59,547 --> 00:58:59,747
Speaker 11: Yeah?

1155
00:58:59,867 --> 00:59:02,587
Speaker 15: It was pretty It's pretty good, like especially this week

1156
00:59:03,147 --> 00:59:07,227
Speaker 15: we trained a bit. But in those situations after training

1157
00:59:07,227 --> 00:59:09,347
Speaker 15: would muck around with some of the boys, say, you know,

1158
00:59:09,827 --> 00:59:11,627
Speaker 15: pretend we're kicking the gold.

1159
00:59:11,427 --> 00:59:13,427
Speaker 17: To win the win the shield sort of things like that.

1160
00:59:13,507 --> 00:59:18,067
Speaker 15: So but yeah, as much as you know, I'd like

1161
00:59:18,107 --> 00:59:18,867
Speaker 15: to say that.

1162
00:59:18,867 --> 00:59:20,987
Speaker 17: I was calme, you know, cool, collective and all that,

1163
00:59:21,027 --> 00:59:24,067
Speaker 17: it was. You know, you obviously thoughts come through the mine.

1164
00:59:24,667 --> 00:59:27,067
Speaker 15: About you know, if and butts and all that, But

1165
00:59:27,867 --> 00:59:29,307
Speaker 15: as soon as I had it, it was sort of heading

1166
00:59:29,347 --> 00:59:33,147
Speaker 15: to the right post and then five ten meters to go,

1167
00:59:33,227 --> 00:59:35,987
Speaker 15: it's sort of just snuck in. So I was I

1168
00:59:36,027 --> 00:59:37,987
Speaker 15: was happy when the flags went up for sure.

1169
00:59:38,027 --> 00:59:41,227
Speaker 3: Cambrill, Pilota, you took the air out of McLean Park.

1170
00:59:41,587 --> 00:59:44,107
Speaker 3: I expected that the fans would have just gone, ah,

1171
00:59:44,267 --> 00:59:46,987
Speaker 3: you are kidding me, and you guys would have reveled

1172
00:59:47,027 --> 00:59:47,947
Speaker 3: in that silence.

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00:59:48,667 --> 00:59:51,187
Speaker 17: Yeah, No, it was awesome. Like man, the crowd was

1174
00:59:51,307 --> 00:59:51,747
Speaker 17: huge there.

1175
00:59:51,787 --> 00:59:53,707
Speaker 15: I couldn't couldn't get over it when they scored with

1176
00:59:53,707 --> 00:59:57,187
Speaker 15: a couple of months ago. It's honestly the loudest game

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00:59:57,227 --> 00:59:59,387
Speaker 15: I've been a part of. And then to be able

1178
00:59:59,467 --> 01:00:01,947
Speaker 15: to put it back on them after the after the

1179
01:00:01,987 --> 01:00:04,547
Speaker 15: siren was awesome. And then just to be with the

1180
01:00:04,627 --> 01:00:08,707
Speaker 15: lads after the game, and just people like Quentin McDonald's

1181
01:00:08,707 --> 01:00:10,987
Speaker 15: played over one hundred and twenty games, have never never

1182
01:00:11,067 --> 01:00:12,707
Speaker 15: touched the shield, you know, to get.

1183
01:00:12,587 --> 01:00:16,187
Speaker 17: It for him and people like that just specially means.

1184
01:00:15,987 --> 01:00:19,587
Speaker 3: He You've had a pretty rotten year. You've been rotten

1185
01:00:19,667 --> 01:00:21,787
Speaker 3: couple of years. To talk us through what happened with

1186
01:00:21,827 --> 01:00:24,227
Speaker 3: the Force, what you're a couple of year contract over there,

1187
01:00:24,227 --> 01:00:26,867
Speaker 3: but what you hardly played? Did you just fell apart

1188
01:00:26,987 --> 01:00:28,787
Speaker 3: talk us through that.

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01:00:28,187 --> 01:00:28,747
Speaker 14: That was it.

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01:00:29,307 --> 01:00:29,627
Speaker 17: Yeah.

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01:00:29,667 --> 01:00:34,147
Speaker 15: So I was over at the Force for Super but

1192
01:00:34,347 --> 01:00:35,467
Speaker 15: picked up a.

1193
01:00:35,227 --> 01:00:37,907
Speaker 17: Shoulder injury heading over there, had a.

1194
01:00:38,627 --> 01:00:41,307
Speaker 15: Shoulder reconstruction surgery, so that took me out of my

1195
01:00:41,427 --> 01:00:47,267
Speaker 15: first year, just rehabbing that completely and then coming back

1196
01:00:47,307 --> 01:00:50,987
Speaker 15: from that, ended up doing a great for HAMI tear

1197
01:00:51,667 --> 01:00:52,347
Speaker 15: off the bone.

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01:00:52,427 --> 01:00:55,547
Speaker 17: So that was the second year fully out. It was

1199
01:00:55,547 --> 01:00:59,027
Speaker 17: a good a good period out of the game, just

1200
01:00:59,067 --> 01:00:59,787
Speaker 17: in rehab.

1201
01:01:00,587 --> 01:01:05,507
Speaker 15: Some some tough times obviously, just constantly being written rehab.

1202
01:01:05,547 --> 01:01:09,187
Speaker 15: But no, like we sort of spoke about it last night,

1203
01:01:09,347 --> 01:01:13,107
Speaker 15: To be able to sort of stay at it, stick

1204
01:01:13,147 --> 01:01:15,867
Speaker 15: in it, and then to be able to have a

1205
01:01:15,907 --> 01:01:18,387
Speaker 15: moment like last night sort of makes it all or

1206
01:01:18,427 --> 01:01:21,267
Speaker 15: worth it really, so yeah, and I was just just

1207
01:01:21,267 --> 01:01:24,907
Speaker 15: grateful to be back playing, really especially after yeah, like

1208
01:01:24,907 --> 01:01:26,307
Speaker 15: the past couple of years.

1209
01:01:26,147 --> 01:01:28,467
Speaker 3: So relatively young. What are you early twenty twenty three,

1210
01:01:28,547 --> 01:01:32,827
Speaker 3: twenty four something along those twenty four What happens now?

1211
01:01:32,907 --> 01:01:36,067
Speaker 3: Have you been like piastering super Franchisers for a job?

1212
01:01:36,107 --> 01:01:38,027
Speaker 3: What process?

1213
01:01:40,307 --> 01:01:41,427
Speaker 17: Nothing like that at the moment.

1214
01:01:42,667 --> 01:01:46,627
Speaker 15: Yeah, sort of previous years I used to, especially when

1215
01:01:46,627 --> 01:01:49,227
Speaker 15: I was injured, used to get worked up about you know,

1216
01:01:49,787 --> 01:01:52,667
Speaker 15: the next contract and whatnot. But at the moment, just

1217
01:01:52,787 --> 01:01:55,987
Speaker 15: enjoying enjoying the rugby day by day sort of thing.

1218
01:01:56,027 --> 01:02:00,267
Speaker 15: And now the culture at Tasman's unreal. It's probably the

1219
01:02:00,267 --> 01:02:02,947
Speaker 15: best place I've ever been at. So I'm just enjoying

1220
01:02:02,947 --> 01:02:05,307
Speaker 15: my time here and you'll see what comes from it.

1221
01:02:05,907 --> 01:02:09,027
Speaker 3: You Also, next week, I've got your first defense up

1222
01:02:09,067 --> 01:02:11,627
Speaker 3: against now that I'm well, you're unbeaten. Now you managed

1223
01:02:11,667 --> 01:02:14,307
Speaker 3: to roll Hawk's Bay there I went, and now you're

1224
01:02:14,387 --> 01:02:18,147
Speaker 3: up against Wellington next week. Your potty too, are born.

1225
01:02:18,347 --> 01:02:20,667
Speaker 3: Does that mean extra to you going there and take

1226
01:02:20,827 --> 01:02:22,467
Speaker 3: well then coming over and taking that on.

1227
01:02:23,467 --> 01:02:24,507
Speaker 17: Yeah, it'll be awesome.

1228
01:02:25,547 --> 01:02:28,827
Speaker 15: My parents still live in Wellington up the Carpety Coast actually,

1229
01:02:28,907 --> 01:02:35,267
Speaker 15: so no, it'll be awesome to diverse Wellington. Obviously born

1230
01:02:35,307 --> 01:02:38,707
Speaker 15: in Wellington, but I didn't spend too much time there,

1231
01:02:38,747 --> 01:02:42,947
Speaker 15: but you know, it will be awesome, especially as a.

1232
01:02:42,347 --> 01:02:46,427
Speaker 17: Shield defense game. So that'll be awesome, especially at home.

1233
01:02:47,827 --> 01:02:50,067
Speaker 3: You're raised in Western Australia, I seemed to I'm interested.

1234
01:02:50,067 --> 01:02:51,427
Speaker 3: You spent a lot of time over there.

1235
01:02:52,147 --> 01:02:54,347
Speaker 17: Yeah, exactly so my me old man.

1236
01:02:55,707 --> 01:02:57,987
Speaker 15: He sort of worked over there as he does still now.

1237
01:02:57,987 --> 01:03:02,067
Speaker 15: He still works in Aussie. Yeah, so we shot off

1238
01:03:02,107 --> 01:03:04,027
Speaker 15: there when I was when I was pretty young, grew

1239
01:03:04,107 --> 01:03:07,027
Speaker 15: up over there and then ended up going to boarding

1240
01:03:07,027 --> 01:03:12,827
Speaker 15: school in in Queensland at TSS, the Southport School. So yeah,

1241
01:03:12,947 --> 01:03:15,027
Speaker 15: it was awesome time over there. But it's good to

1242
01:03:15,067 --> 01:03:15,667
Speaker 15: be back home.

1243
01:03:16,347 --> 01:03:20,387
Speaker 3: Must be great. And what about the Ymea Wobblers, how

1244
01:03:20,387 --> 01:03:22,267
Speaker 3: are they feeling right now? Even in touch with them?

1245
01:03:22,387 --> 01:03:23,027
Speaker 11: Yeah?

1246
01:03:23,107 --> 01:03:25,867
Speaker 15: Yeah, Now we've got a we're taking the shield back

1247
01:03:25,867 --> 01:03:28,427
Speaker 15: to the Wobblers club rooms and I think it's Wednesday,

1248
01:03:29,227 --> 01:03:31,107
Speaker 15: so that would be good for me and Macka to

1249
01:03:31,107 --> 01:03:33,507
Speaker 15: get back there and get it around.

1250
01:03:33,627 --> 01:03:36,067
Speaker 17: Like I said before, like we probably.

1251
01:03:35,827 --> 01:03:38,987
Speaker 15: Don't know the extent of what the shield means to

1252
01:03:39,107 --> 01:03:41,467
Speaker 15: so many people in the region, so that'll be awesome

1253
01:03:41,547 --> 01:03:43,387
Speaker 15: the next couple of days be able to get around and.

1254
01:03:44,267 --> 01:03:47,147
Speaker 17: Get out and about. So yeah, looking forward to it.

1255
01:03:47,267 --> 01:03:50,067
Speaker 3: Campbell Plato, I've got to ask, have you guys been

1256
01:03:50,187 --> 01:03:52,947
Speaker 3: schooled on a protocol around the shield, like you know

1257
01:03:52,987 --> 01:03:55,827
Speaker 3: what not to do off it, what not to drop

1258
01:03:55,867 --> 01:03:57,547
Speaker 3: it on and so forth.

1259
01:03:59,187 --> 01:04:00,227
Speaker 17: Yeah, yeah, we have.

1260
01:04:00,347 --> 01:04:02,587
Speaker 15: We have had a little chat last night about it.

1261
01:04:03,787 --> 01:04:06,787
Speaker 15: Our team manager's actually got a nice photo of with

1262
01:04:06,987 --> 01:04:10,867
Speaker 15: a with a fizzy drink on it, drinking a fizzy

1263
01:04:10,947 --> 01:04:14,067
Speaker 15: drink off it, So now will be responsible and make

1264
01:04:14,107 --> 01:04:15,387
Speaker 15: sure we look after it for sure.

1265
01:04:15,627 --> 01:04:18,947
Speaker 3: And then finally over the hill and Marlborough they can say, wow,

1266
01:04:19,227 --> 01:04:21,427
Speaker 3: well that's the first for the Marco, but not the

1267
01:04:21,427 --> 01:04:24,107
Speaker 3: first the district because we picked that up back in

1268
01:04:24,267 --> 01:04:28,187
Speaker 3: seventy three. But for the market as a club, this

1269
01:04:28,267 --> 01:04:32,427
Speaker 3: is huge, celebrated. Enjoy it, treasure. It's an incredible tonger

1270
01:04:32,707 --> 01:04:34,707
Speaker 3: and I know that all the crew up there, I

1271
01:04:34,747 --> 01:04:36,227
Speaker 3: will love you guys to bring it a back. You

1272
01:04:36,267 --> 01:04:39,947
Speaker 3: look after yourself, look after the shield and defend well

1273
01:04:40,227 --> 01:04:41,907
Speaker 3: next week next time against Wellington.

1274
01:04:42,507 --> 01:04:43,947
Speaker 17: Awesome, appreciate that.

1275
01:04:44,507 --> 01:04:47,467
Speaker 3: We appreciate you for picking the phone up Campbell Parata,

1276
01:04:47,467 --> 01:04:51,427
Speaker 3: who kicked the winning penalty to send the whole Michael

1277
01:04:51,507 --> 01:04:57,227
Speaker 3: District into huge celebrations and picking up that shield. I've

1278
01:04:57,267 --> 01:05:00,227
Speaker 3: just been told off by Andy McDonald. Here I was

1279
01:05:00,227 --> 01:05:04,147
Speaker 3: thinking I was being all smart and mentioning the name

1280
01:05:04,187 --> 01:05:07,307
Speaker 3: of the team he comes from. Apparently not the Wobblers,

1281
01:05:07,307 --> 01:05:10,707
Speaker 3: it's the Wobbers. So if you're out there from that district,

1282
01:05:10,747 --> 01:05:14,027
Speaker 3: I'm really sorry I got that wrong. And here I

1283
01:05:14,347 --> 01:05:16,667
Speaker 3: was and he thinking of us being oh, so clever

1284
01:05:17,147 --> 01:05:19,147
Speaker 3: came back and bite me in the backside. No, you

1285
01:05:19,187 --> 01:05:21,627
Speaker 3: did pretty well. But yeah, why I'm here old boys wobbers,

1286
01:05:21,827 --> 01:05:25,587
Speaker 3: wobbers w o B. He was older boys, so wobblers

1287
01:05:25,587 --> 01:05:30,387
Speaker 3: makes more sense than wobbers. Wobbler. A nickname doesn't have

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01:05:30,427 --> 01:05:33,947
Speaker 3: to make sense. It's a good point. So yeah, up again.

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Speaker 3: Of course you're quite happy. I'm old boys.

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Speaker 26: Absolutely only legends come from that right club, like who

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01:05:40,707 --> 01:05:43,827
Speaker 26: Ah Cable Andy McDonald.

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Speaker 3: I used to play the term a right flying back

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01:05:49,667 --> 01:05:54,267
Speaker 3: for Wednesday night to celebrate this shield. I could you

1294
01:05:54,427 --> 01:05:58,267
Speaker 3: should You should just pretend it's a work trip and

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Speaker 3: claim on it.

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Speaker 26: Yeah, yeah, absolutely, I'll do that now. But we'll just

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01:06:01,347 --> 01:06:03,547
Speaker 26: quickly scrub this from the on your logs, shall we. So,

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Speaker 26: bosses don't know.

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Speaker 3: I don't know what you're talking about. One thirty four

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Speaker 3: This is News Talk ZEBB. Thirty three minutes gone in

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01:06:12,667 --> 01:06:16,787
Speaker 3: the game of football between New Zealand and Mexico. Mexico

1302
01:06:16,987 --> 01:06:21,147
Speaker 3: still leading one nil after scoring very early on. In

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01:06:21,187 --> 01:06:25,627
Speaker 3: the piece the wake Up a women leading, Wake Up Women,

1304
01:06:25,747 --> 01:06:29,587
Speaker 3: excuse me? Leading the Hawks bay twoy thirty nine to twelve.

1305
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Speaker 3: We're in the sixty third minute of that game. We've

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Speaker 3: got a few more texts have come in around various subjects.

1307
01:06:39,747 --> 01:06:42,307
Speaker 3: I'd love it if you're joining, and so honestly, Sky

1308
01:06:42,387 --> 01:06:44,947
Speaker 3: Sport are hopeless at not showing the all Whites games anymore.

1309
01:06:45,147 --> 01:06:48,627
Speaker 3: Fever TV are hopeless and it goes on and on

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Speaker 3: and on. Are know that bad? FEVA? Plus I don't know.

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01:06:50,827 --> 01:06:52,907
Speaker 3: I don't watch a lot of football. I think it's

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Speaker 3: on the TV up here. It seems to be working fine.

1313
01:06:55,827 --> 01:06:58,467
Speaker 3: At least you can get it right. Maybe you just

1314
01:06:58,507 --> 01:07:00,867
Speaker 3: need to get your daughter or your son to climb

1315
01:07:00,907 --> 01:07:04,027
Speaker 3: on board and show you how to log on to

1316
01:07:04,147 --> 01:07:07,667
Speaker 3: these things. Other texts still around what happened in the

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Speaker 3: Rugby last night? It's okay to admit you and the

1318
01:07:12,947 --> 01:07:16,107
Speaker 3: one eyed guys got it wrong. Even the lambs are

1319
01:07:16,147 --> 01:07:19,187
Speaker 3: crying out for the knife to be wielded. A hope.

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Speaker 3: Joe Schmidt doesn't ask Leon to come on over. I

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01:07:25,067 --> 01:07:29,387
Speaker 3: think that is premature, I really do. And I don't

1322
01:07:29,467 --> 01:07:32,267
Speaker 3: think people were calling out for Fozzy's head for quite

1323
01:07:32,267 --> 01:07:36,627
Speaker 3: some time. They did eventually, but this is still very

1324
01:07:36,667 --> 01:07:39,787
Speaker 3: early doors And we had a caller in the first

1325
01:07:39,827 --> 01:07:44,587
Speaker 3: hour talking about the association with the coaching staff and

1326
01:07:44,627 --> 01:07:46,787
Speaker 3: the team and how long it actually takes to bed

1327
01:07:46,867 --> 01:07:50,907
Speaker 3: that in until you buy into someone's narrative and how

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Speaker 3: they coach and what they expect. And you remember the

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Speaker 3: succession plans that ran right the way through the All

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Speaker 3: Blacks for many, many, many years. So the assistant came

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01:08:01,627 --> 01:08:05,587
Speaker 3: in as the head coach and everybody knew what was

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01:08:05,627 --> 01:08:08,387
Speaker 3: expected because they've been working under them before, and that

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Speaker 3: went right the way through Henri to Hanson to Foster.

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Speaker 3: This is a new broom, So I think you've got

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Speaker 3: to give them some time. And hey, it's South Africa.

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Speaker 3: In South Africa, they're the world champions. They are on fire,

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Speaker 3: they're playing fantastic rugby. Yes, we hold them to a

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Speaker 3: high standard. They are the All Blacks. They demand that

1339
01:08:32,307 --> 01:08:34,987
Speaker 3: by their results over the last one hundred years. Right,

1340
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Speaker 3: but we can still complain we're still a Loud's cut

1341
01:08:38,307 --> 01:08:40,667
Speaker 3: them a wee bit of slag. This is news talks,

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01:08:40,667 --> 01:08:44,107
Speaker 3: heb it is one at thirty six. James mccony is

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Speaker 3: just around in the corner there on Weekend Sports.

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Speaker 2: You be the TMO.

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Speaker 1: Have your say on eight hundred and eighty ten eighty

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Speaker 1: Weekend Sports with GJ. Guberhomes New Zealand's most trusted home

1347
01:08:56,987 --> 01:08:58,747
Speaker 1: builder News talksb.

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Speaker 3: It's twenty to two James mcconey. Shortly, we're just trying

1349
01:09:04,987 --> 01:09:06,667
Speaker 3: to rain them in. Now find them down the back

1350
01:09:06,667 --> 01:09:08,187
Speaker 3: of the couch or drag him out of there and

1351
01:09:08,187 --> 01:09:11,307
Speaker 3: have we yarned to them a couple of texts for you.

1352
01:09:12,667 --> 01:09:15,507
Speaker 3: It's the Auckland struggling club scene that's giving out all

1353
01:09:15,547 --> 01:09:19,627
Speaker 3: black woes. Thanks Jeremy. Nice to know that someone's putting

1354
01:09:19,627 --> 01:09:22,907
Speaker 3: the boot into something else rather than Damian McKenzie or

1355
01:09:22,947 --> 01:09:26,627
Speaker 3: Scott Robertson. That's saying when Auckland rugby is strong, New

1356
01:09:26,667 --> 01:09:29,027
Speaker 3: Zealand rugby is strong. A huge amount of time there

1357
01:09:29,067 --> 01:09:31,867
Speaker 3: when Auckland rugby was strong and New Zealand Rugby are

1358
01:09:31,867 --> 01:09:36,267
Speaker 3: like kind of third So maybe that's not entirely true,

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01:09:36,307 --> 01:09:38,547
Speaker 3: but yeah, Club Rugby and king or which sits on

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01:09:38,667 --> 01:09:43,107
Speaker 3: the down, although with the Wahina once suggest Club Rugby

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01:09:43,267 --> 01:09:46,227
Speaker 3: is the only place of growth right now. Anyway, enough

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Speaker 3: of that, let's say I get on to James. We've

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Speaker 3: found down the back of the couch today, mcconey, is

1364
01:09:50,987 --> 01:09:52,707
Speaker 3: that where you've been all these months? Don't try and

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01:09:52,707 --> 01:09:57,027
Speaker 3: tell me you've been overseas.

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Speaker 14: A little bit of overseas and just down in Tadanak

1367
01:09:58,947 --> 01:10:04,507
Speaker 14: for a conductive education fundraiser. Incredible people are doing education

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Speaker 14: for disabled kids. And Wayne Smith was one of the

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Speaker 14: keynote speakers, and so some of my opinions this morning

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Speaker 14: may be influenced by the professor.

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Speaker 3: So we got them with you now just put them

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Speaker 3: on the phone.

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Speaker 14: Not exactly, it's a much better idea. And can I

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01:10:21,827 --> 01:10:25,307
Speaker 14: just give you some some kudos for the first part

1375
01:10:25,347 --> 01:10:28,667
Speaker 14: of the hour with Anna Grimaldi and then Campbell Patata,

1376
01:10:29,187 --> 01:10:32,867
Speaker 14: just absolute unbridled joy. So I'm guessing this is the

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Speaker 14: miserable part.

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Speaker 3: No, no, no, don't don't be smiling for me, James,

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01:10:36,707 --> 01:10:39,347
Speaker 3: you don't have to be miserable. You're not texting in

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01:10:39,667 --> 01:10:44,187
Speaker 3: come on, someone texts it and the naki is taking

1381
01:10:44,227 --> 01:10:47,107
Speaker 3: it from the muck or up the naki that's from

1382
01:10:47,307 --> 01:10:49,227
Speaker 3: chop So would you buy into that as well? Would

1383
01:10:49,267 --> 01:10:50,227
Speaker 3: you do?

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Speaker 11: You know what?

1385
01:10:50,747 --> 01:10:52,707
Speaker 14: I love the shield so much. I had a quick

1386
01:10:52,747 --> 01:10:55,547
Speaker 14: look and thought if there was a one match tenure

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01:10:55,587 --> 01:10:58,547
Speaker 14: for the rest of the season, so it just keeps

1388
01:10:58,587 --> 01:11:01,227
Speaker 14: on going around. I think Otago ends up with it

1389
01:11:01,627 --> 01:11:05,227
Speaker 14: if everybody loses a first challenge. So there you go, who.

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01:11:05,067 --> 01:11:06,787
Speaker 3: Treats it the worst? And I'm not gonna go along

1391
01:11:06,787 --> 01:11:09,387
Speaker 3: this lines. Already did that with let's talk about what

1392
01:11:09,467 --> 01:11:12,787
Speaker 3: you want to talk about All Blacks South Africa. Shed

1393
01:11:12,827 --> 01:11:13,987
Speaker 3: some light on it, please.

1394
01:11:14,747 --> 01:11:17,107
Speaker 14: Yeah, well, I thought your call has made some great points,

1395
01:11:17,107 --> 01:11:19,307
Speaker 14: but I am going to zag where they have zig

1396
01:11:19,347 --> 01:11:22,187
Speaker 14: and I will actually stick up for Damien McKenzie, not

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01:11:22,307 --> 01:11:25,227
Speaker 14: because I'm a punishing Chiefs fan, but just because I

1398
01:11:25,267 --> 01:11:28,707
Speaker 14: think at first five there's a lot of nuances to

1399
01:11:28,747 --> 01:11:31,307
Speaker 14: that position. And I know that everyone goes on about

1400
01:11:31,347 --> 01:11:34,907
Speaker 14: game management and that's totally fair enough, but also in

1401
01:11:35,907 --> 01:11:38,707
Speaker 14: test matches of that magnitude of game management is that

1402
01:11:38,787 --> 01:11:41,347
Speaker 14: big a problem, then the coaches have to take some

1403
01:11:41,427 --> 01:11:45,667
Speaker 14: responsibility there because you watched that last quarter and I

1404
01:11:45,707 --> 01:11:49,827
Speaker 14: think there were several mistakes from a number of all blacks,

1405
01:11:49,507 --> 01:11:53,027
Speaker 14: including you know, great all blacks, and I don't think

1406
01:11:53,107 --> 01:11:55,547
Speaker 14: mackenzie apart from off the tee. Yes, I know that

1407
01:11:55,707 --> 01:11:57,867
Speaker 14: was a problem the kicking, but I don't think he

1408
01:11:58,027 --> 01:11:59,667
Speaker 14: was as a fault as many think.

1409
01:12:00,587 --> 01:12:04,347
Speaker 3: Well name them. You can't just throw muddet people and

1410
01:12:04,467 --> 01:12:06,907
Speaker 3: not name them. Who are the great all Blacks? Are

1411
01:12:06,947 --> 01:12:09,267
Speaker 3: they great? All Blacks in that side. What mistakes they made?

1412
01:12:09,307 --> 01:12:10,507
Speaker 3: Come on, James front up.

1413
01:12:11,507 --> 01:12:13,827
Speaker 14: Well, I mean I think you know exactly like well,

1414
01:12:13,867 --> 01:12:16,347
Speaker 14: I think we've got a drop ball from the captain.

1415
01:12:16,467 --> 01:12:21,867
Speaker 14: There was several breakdown penalties and you can go in

1416
01:12:21,907 --> 01:12:25,347
Speaker 14: and talk about One was for not releasing one was

1417
01:12:25,347 --> 01:12:27,707
Speaker 14: for an incury clean out. There was a yellow card

1418
01:12:27,707 --> 01:12:31,107
Speaker 14: from Tyrell Lomax. I'm just talking about all these mistakes

1419
01:12:31,147 --> 01:12:32,147
Speaker 14: in the final quarter.

1420
01:12:32,587 --> 01:12:32,787
Speaker 11: Yeah.

1421
01:12:32,907 --> 01:12:34,987
Speaker 14: Dmac missed a couple of kicks, but I just think

1422
01:12:35,147 --> 01:12:37,427
Speaker 14: there needs to be some perspective that is a team sport.

1423
01:12:37,907 --> 01:12:40,347
Speaker 14: And by the way, if we are talking about kicks,

1424
01:12:40,747 --> 01:12:43,347
Speaker 14: I think Jordie should be taking the long range goals

1425
01:12:43,427 --> 01:12:47,987
Speaker 14: and don't at me because he has got in golfing terms,

1426
01:12:48,027 --> 01:12:50,907
Speaker 14: he's the driver and d MAC is the three iron

1427
01:12:51,267 --> 01:12:53,947
Speaker 14: and I think he's got ten meters more range and

1428
01:12:53,987 --> 01:12:57,227
Speaker 14: so he should be taking those fifty meter plus kicks

1429
01:12:57,627 --> 01:13:01,147
Speaker 14: and leave dmac on the short range ones, although admittedly

1430
01:13:01,187 --> 01:13:01,947
Speaker 14: he did miss one.

1431
01:13:02,827 --> 01:13:06,227
Speaker 3: And I'll pass that message on to the All Black management,

1432
01:13:06,467 --> 01:13:08,267
Speaker 3: not that they are taking any of my advice, but

1433
01:13:08,347 --> 01:13:11,787
Speaker 3: so be it. So we get away from that, go

1434
01:13:11,867 --> 01:13:15,787
Speaker 3: to the ran fairly shield the storied career of this

1435
01:13:15,947 --> 01:13:19,627
Speaker 3: log of wood continues. And when you think about the

1436
01:13:19,707 --> 01:13:21,667
Speaker 3: history of rugby in this country and the way things

1437
01:13:21,747 --> 01:13:23,987
Speaker 3: chomp and change and the way things develop and so

1438
01:13:24,107 --> 01:13:27,147
Speaker 3: on and so forth, this thing's still going and it

1439
01:13:27,227 --> 01:13:32,307
Speaker 3: still creates a ruckus that's extraordinary, the tenure, the hold

1440
01:13:32,467 --> 01:13:34,227
Speaker 3: it's had on the New Zealand rugby public.

1441
01:13:35,547 --> 01:13:37,947
Speaker 14: There's still magic about the shield, and to be honest,

1442
01:13:37,947 --> 01:13:41,307
Speaker 14: it's one of the things about New Zealand rugby that

1443
01:13:41,627 --> 01:13:43,947
Speaker 14: other nations should have taken note. And I think you

1444
01:13:43,987 --> 01:13:46,387
Speaker 14: can do it in contact sport. It's a bit tricky

1445
01:13:46,387 --> 01:13:48,067
Speaker 14: in football where someone can nick your gold in the

1446
01:13:48,147 --> 01:13:51,507
Speaker 14: last second and it just changes everything. But generally, once

1447
01:13:51,507 --> 01:13:54,587
Speaker 14: you've slogged it out over eighty minutes, you can work

1448
01:13:54,627 --> 01:13:58,307
Speaker 14: out a worthy winner. So I feel like a Raanfilly

1449
01:13:58,387 --> 01:14:02,107
Speaker 14: shield concept should be used by all other nations and

1450
01:14:02,147 --> 01:14:05,827
Speaker 14: all other contact codes, like whether it's the NRL or

1451
01:14:05,867 --> 01:14:09,867
Speaker 14: the NF in America, because just having that fortress mentality

1452
01:14:10,187 --> 01:14:12,347
Speaker 14: it means something. You can see the pride in it,

1453
01:14:12,747 --> 01:14:16,467
Speaker 14: and how great is it that most of these these

1454
01:14:16,507 --> 01:14:19,187
Speaker 14: players are just young kids, but they still get it,

1455
01:14:19,227 --> 01:14:22,787
Speaker 14: They still get how amazing the shield is. You know,

1456
01:14:22,787 --> 01:14:24,907
Speaker 14: one hundred years on from its inception.

1457
01:14:26,427 --> 01:14:30,787
Speaker 3: And you say, kids's because they've been brought up with

1458
01:14:30,907 --> 01:14:33,307
Speaker 3: the wonderment of the rand Fury Shield. It's that whole

1459
01:14:33,547 --> 01:14:37,347
Speaker 3: oral tradition. Is it the history handed down? And they know.

1460
01:14:37,427 --> 01:14:39,467
Speaker 3: I mean that's a part of the even U ninety

1461
01:14:39,467 --> 01:14:41,267
Speaker 3: seventy three around Marlborough. I think a lot of people

1462
01:14:41,307 --> 01:14:42,267
Speaker 3: would missed that one.

1463
01:14:42,987 --> 01:14:45,387
Speaker 14: I know, And what a kick off the bench if

1464
01:14:45,467 --> 01:14:48,667
Speaker 14: only we kicked like that in Capel. I'm not going

1465
01:14:48,667 --> 01:14:50,947
Speaker 14: to go back there, but I would say just in

1466
01:14:51,067 --> 01:14:54,547
Speaker 14: terms of the bench, I still feel that bomb squad

1467
01:14:54,667 --> 01:14:56,987
Speaker 14: if we are just to backtrack a little bit about

1468
01:14:57,067 --> 01:15:00,507
Speaker 14: to the abs the bomb squad idea, the All Blacks

1469
01:15:00,507 --> 01:15:03,747
Speaker 14: still haven't worked out how to counter that, because, as

1470
01:15:03,787 --> 01:15:07,107
Speaker 14: you've talked about on the show, there were several players

1471
01:15:07,187 --> 01:15:11,227
Speaker 14: left high and dry reserves not even used. So I

1472
01:15:11,347 --> 01:15:13,547
Speaker 14: do think that the coaches are going to have to

1473
01:15:13,587 --> 01:15:16,747
Speaker 14: take a hit on that lost last night. I don't

1474
01:15:16,747 --> 01:15:18,947
Speaker 14: think it's time to get the knives out solely for

1475
01:15:19,027 --> 01:15:19,587
Speaker 14: the players.

1476
01:15:19,867 --> 01:15:22,267
Speaker 3: Did the quarter that rang through and said, look, there's

1477
01:15:22,267 --> 01:15:24,507
Speaker 3: been a succession plan for so long with the All Blacks.

1478
01:15:24,507 --> 01:15:28,787
Speaker 3: This is a fresh team with fresh coaching staff. Does

1479
01:15:28,947 --> 01:15:30,627
Speaker 3: that give them a bit of a wiggle room? Do

1480
01:15:30,667 --> 01:15:31,027
Speaker 3: you think?

1481
01:15:31,827 --> 01:15:32,067
Speaker 22: Yeah?

1482
01:15:32,107 --> 01:15:32,507
Speaker 21: Exactly.

1483
01:15:32,547 --> 01:15:35,747
Speaker 14: I mean, I'm not even saying that the coaches need

1484
01:15:35,747 --> 01:15:39,787
Speaker 14: to change. I'm just saying that they'll realize that they've

1485
01:15:39,787 --> 01:15:44,587
Speaker 14: got a few things wrong tactically. And really, the intensity

1486
01:15:44,667 --> 01:15:47,547
Speaker 14: of a spring Box All Blacks tests is something It's

1487
01:15:47,587 --> 01:15:52,147
Speaker 14: just another level. I think every nation, doesn't matter whether

1488
01:15:52,187 --> 01:15:55,387
Speaker 14: it's your northern hemisphere or even just the Minnows, they'll

1489
01:15:55,507 --> 01:15:58,907
Speaker 14: use those two test matches of the past two weeks

1490
01:15:58,907 --> 01:16:02,947
Speaker 14: as a master class an intensity and how to perform

1491
01:16:03,067 --> 01:16:05,067
Speaker 14: or not perform in the clutch. You know, it's just

1492
01:16:06,547 --> 01:16:08,387
Speaker 14: you can feel it, you can sense it. I don't

1493
01:16:08,427 --> 01:16:12,387
Speaker 14: think there's anything like it. I guess maybe Origin at

1494
01:16:12,427 --> 01:16:15,867
Speaker 14: its peak used to feel like that, But those spring

1495
01:16:15,907 --> 01:16:17,667
Speaker 14: boxs All Blacks tests are just something else.

1496
01:16:17,987 --> 01:16:20,827
Speaker 3: Third, ay, minutes to two, you're getting a hammering on text. Well,

1497
01:16:20,827 --> 01:16:24,547
Speaker 3: if one texts is a hammering, apparently you're showing your

1498
01:16:24,747 --> 01:16:28,707
Speaker 3: chief's bias. And you can see that coming, didn't you.

1499
01:16:29,347 --> 01:16:31,107
Speaker 14: Oh yeah, I know that's going to happen. But look,

1500
01:16:31,187 --> 01:16:37,627
Speaker 14: I'm all for actually persevering with a player who's feedingly talented.

1501
01:16:37,987 --> 01:16:40,827
Speaker 14: I thought that For example, one backline move was perfect,

1502
01:16:41,147 --> 01:16:44,947
Speaker 14: but Willie LaRue got his hand in the way of

1503
01:16:45,027 --> 01:16:47,707
Speaker 14: Boden's past. You know, if that pass was thrown a

1504
01:16:47,747 --> 01:16:51,307
Speaker 14: split second earlier, seven Reese makes the break and Boden

1505
01:16:51,347 --> 01:16:53,467
Speaker 14: finishes on the inside, Like, I mean, that is a

1506
01:16:53,667 --> 01:16:56,907
Speaker 14: definite try right there. And it was a yellow card

1507
01:16:56,947 --> 01:17:00,387
Speaker 14: to South Africa probably the right you know risk that.

1508
01:17:00,467 --> 01:17:02,747
Speaker 14: These are the things I think people need to understand.

1509
01:17:02,947 --> 01:17:05,947
Speaker 14: It is sport and things where little things happen that

1510
01:17:06,027 --> 01:17:09,067
Speaker 14: tip the balance. And all those mistakes I'm talking about

1511
01:17:09,067 --> 01:17:11,427
Speaker 14: from the All Blacks. I don't necessarily blame them. I'm

1512
01:17:11,507 --> 01:17:12,867
Speaker 14: just saying they happened as well.

1513
01:17:14,427 --> 01:17:17,867
Speaker 3: Come on, I've had it all before. The thing they

1514
01:17:17,907 --> 01:17:20,307
Speaker 3: don't do it deliberately, and that's what people have got

1515
01:17:20,307 --> 01:17:23,307
Speaker 3: to realize. People take this as a personal front, like

1516
01:17:23,347 --> 01:17:25,467
Speaker 3: they're being attacked themselves. I didn't go out there to

1517
01:17:25,507 --> 01:17:27,227
Speaker 3: do that, right, It's not their plan.

1518
01:17:27,827 --> 01:17:30,707
Speaker 14: Exactly, I know. And that's the thing. I mean, Look,

1519
01:17:30,747 --> 01:17:33,587
Speaker 14: there's I think it's been an incredible test matches and

1520
01:17:33,787 --> 01:17:35,787
Speaker 14: I've just admired what the All Blacks have done. They

1521
01:17:35,907 --> 01:17:38,747
Speaker 14: just finished up short. So can we just deal with that.

1522
01:17:39,227 --> 01:17:43,147
Speaker 14: Maybe in the mature manner. I mean, yeah, obviously everybody

1523
01:17:43,187 --> 01:17:44,987
Speaker 14: sort of throws their toys every now and then, but

1524
01:17:45,467 --> 01:17:46,387
Speaker 14: it's not that bad.

1525
01:17:47,387 --> 01:17:49,507
Speaker 3: I refuse to throw my toys out of the cot

1526
01:17:49,547 --> 01:17:52,467
Speaker 3: that I pretty much live in on results that I've

1527
01:17:52,507 --> 01:17:56,347
Speaker 3: got absolutely no control over it. Why would you your nuts?

1528
01:17:56,387 --> 01:18:00,507
Speaker 3: And we'll finish things off football. It's all on now

1529
01:18:00,627 --> 01:18:03,547
Speaker 3: in the States of America. Right across the conference. There's

1530
01:18:03,587 --> 01:18:06,667
Speaker 3: plenty going on. Two games yesterday went to Brazil, and

1531
01:18:06,827 --> 01:18:08,187
Speaker 3: I've got a whole lot coming up in the next

1532
01:18:08,227 --> 01:18:09,507
Speaker 3: couple of days. What have you got on that?

1533
01:18:10,547 --> 01:18:13,867
Speaker 14: Well, I'm just here to say, if you're not into

1534
01:18:13,907 --> 01:18:16,667
Speaker 14: the NFL, maybe it's time to pick a team. I'm

1535
01:18:16,667 --> 01:18:19,747
Speaker 14: a Detroit Lions fan. We're apparently the team that sucked

1536
01:18:19,747 --> 01:18:23,387
Speaker 14: the most and has the longest drouts of no Super

1537
01:18:23,427 --> 01:18:26,627
Speaker 14: Bowls and no championships or whatever you want to say

1538
01:18:27,227 --> 01:18:31,547
Speaker 14: over sixty six years. So look, I think there's a

1539
01:18:31,587 --> 01:18:34,587
Speaker 14: lot to like about the NFL. And the other thing

1540
01:18:34,667 --> 01:18:37,627
Speaker 14: is it's massive the ratings. I think it accounted for

1541
01:18:37,667 --> 01:18:42,027
Speaker 14: the top twenty shows in America last year between college

1542
01:18:42,027 --> 01:18:46,267
Speaker 14: football and NFL. So are you a fan of yourself, Darcy?

1543
01:18:46,307 --> 01:18:47,227
Speaker 14: Who do you support?

1544
01:18:47,507 --> 01:18:51,067
Speaker 3: I support the Jacksonville Jaguars, and there is a reason

1545
01:18:51,187 --> 01:18:54,307
Speaker 3: behind that that. I remember Ben Mallow, who's going to

1546
01:18:54,347 --> 01:18:58,267
Speaker 3: excuse me join us in about an hour's time when

1547
01:18:58,267 --> 01:19:00,387
Speaker 3: we first started talking on here about oh it would

1548
01:19:00,387 --> 01:19:03,107
Speaker 3: have been twenty years ago now, I asked him who

1549
01:19:03,147 --> 01:19:06,067
Speaker 3: I should support, and he told me that the Jacksonville Jaguars.

1550
01:19:06,587 --> 01:19:08,467
Speaker 3: We're a dumpster fire. And I said, that's it. I'm

1551
01:19:08,507 --> 01:19:11,427
Speaker 3: in that's my team. And they were and I followed them,

1552
01:19:11,427 --> 01:19:13,547
Speaker 3: and then Blake Bortles turned up and he wasn't very good,

1553
01:19:13,667 --> 01:19:16,307
Speaker 3: but they won a couple of games anyway, So that

1554
01:19:16,427 --> 01:19:20,027
Speaker 3: is my connection. It's Jacksonville because they were so bad,

1555
01:19:20,227 --> 01:19:21,387
Speaker 3: were kindred spirits.

1556
01:19:21,467 --> 01:19:25,147
Speaker 14: James, Yeah, I know this, and that's that's the thing.

1557
01:19:25,187 --> 01:19:27,507
Speaker 14: You can just choose in the area. Choose a player

1558
01:19:27,507 --> 01:19:30,587
Speaker 14: who you like. You know, there's specifica players there to

1559
01:19:30,667 --> 01:19:33,827
Speaker 14: a tongue of Vila with as a quarterback for the Dolphins,

1560
01:19:34,627 --> 01:19:39,347
Speaker 14: pookin the cour as someone receiver for the l A Rams.

1561
01:19:39,387 --> 01:19:41,827
Speaker 14: I mean, there's there's plenty of ways to sort of

1562
01:19:42,147 --> 01:19:45,267
Speaker 14: get into it. But look, I think the tribals and

1563
01:19:45,267 --> 01:19:49,067
Speaker 14: what they've got over there is something that every contact sport,

1564
01:19:49,147 --> 01:19:52,027
Speaker 14: including league and rugby need to look at because it

1565
01:19:52,107 --> 01:19:56,147
Speaker 14: seems to be growing and thriving while we with our

1566
01:19:56,227 --> 01:20:02,067
Speaker 14: own domestic competition struggle for for crowds. So you know

1567
01:20:02,347 --> 01:20:05,147
Speaker 14: it should actually serve as a bit of a lesson

1568
01:20:05,187 --> 01:20:08,987
Speaker 14: as well. Really watch this space, how do you replicate

1569
01:20:09,027 --> 01:20:09,987
Speaker 14: what the NFL.

1570
01:20:09,787 --> 01:20:12,627
Speaker 3: Does hold on the rugby union rugby league. You're going

1571
01:20:12,667 --> 01:20:15,587
Speaker 3: along the same track because they're slowing the game down

1572
01:20:15,707 --> 01:20:18,307
Speaker 3: ridiculously and you spend more time sitting there looking at

1573
01:20:18,307 --> 01:20:21,347
Speaker 3: decisions being made than watching accident Dad is my issue

1574
01:20:21,387 --> 01:20:24,427
Speaker 3: with that game. And on that note, until next time,

1575
01:20:24,827 --> 01:20:28,787
Speaker 3: Jason Pine decides to desert the studio. James Mconi, thanks

1576
01:20:28,867 --> 01:20:32,547
Speaker 3: very much for your time, your attitudes, your opinion, your expertise,

1577
01:20:32,627 --> 01:20:33,907
Speaker 3: your wonderment. Thank you friend.

1578
01:20:34,867 --> 01:20:36,467
Speaker 14: Cheers does lovely to church to you.

1579
01:20:36,667 --> 01:20:40,147
Speaker 3: Take care mate, O Well, eight minutes to two o'clock

1580
01:20:41,307 --> 01:20:44,907
Speaker 3: this news talk, but you're on the weekend sport and

1581
01:20:45,347 --> 01:20:47,947
Speaker 3: coming up shortly. I'll give you the latest in the

1582
01:20:48,027 --> 01:20:53,147
Speaker 3: football from the Mexican All Whites game currently in the

1583
01:20:53,187 --> 01:20:55,027
Speaker 3: break and this would luck to have it. That's when

1584
01:20:55,027 --> 01:20:56,747
Speaker 3: I looked up and saw the television.

1585
01:20:56,787 --> 01:20:57,227
Speaker 11: I don't know.

1586
01:20:57,227 --> 01:21:00,907
Speaker 3: Score, oll know it next trust me I will, or

1587
01:21:00,947 --> 01:21:04,107
Speaker 3: any McDonald will and he'll let me know. And coming

1588
01:21:04,187 --> 01:21:09,507
Speaker 3: up after two o'clock, Sophie Pasco, one of the all

1589
01:21:09,587 --> 01:21:13,627
Speaker 3: time Paralympic greats, joined us here on News TALKB.

1590
01:21:14,387 --> 01:21:19,387
Speaker 1: Breaking down the Hail Mary's and the every fails weekend

1591
01:21:19,427 --> 01:21:20,907
Speaker 1: sport as a news talk.

1592
01:21:20,827 --> 01:21:25,787
Speaker 3: For MV one. Neil, that's the score at halftime between

1593
01:21:25,827 --> 01:21:30,307
Speaker 3: the All Whites and Mexico. I'll keep you up today

1594
01:21:30,467 --> 01:21:34,627
Speaker 3: is best I can. Over the next hours that game continues,

1595
01:21:35,187 --> 01:21:38,547
Speaker 3: I'm being thrashed on text by a guy who's right

1596
01:21:38,587 --> 01:21:41,507
Speaker 3: into his football. Is the guy that was complaining about

1597
01:21:41,507 --> 01:21:45,547
Speaker 3: the lack of coverage on the Sky. He goes back, See,

1598
01:21:45,587 --> 01:21:47,747
Speaker 3: I understand, like half in New Zealand, you don't like

1599
01:21:47,787 --> 01:21:51,707
Speaker 3: football and have no respect for it. All your sports

1600
01:21:51,707 --> 01:21:53,867
Speaker 3: talk is about is rugby and rugby league and cricket

1601
01:21:53,867 --> 01:21:57,867
Speaker 3: and the Olympics every four years. He missed motorsport, mate,

1602
01:21:58,667 --> 01:22:00,267
Speaker 3: you know I had to get that into Denny, and

1603
01:22:00,307 --> 01:22:02,587
Speaker 3: he goes on. He's carrying on. Look, look the Sky

1604
01:22:02,667 --> 01:22:05,267
Speaker 3: Sport lost the right to Champions League and the League

1605
01:22:05,307 --> 01:22:07,867
Speaker 3: Cup and they play out international football games but not

1606
01:22:08,067 --> 01:22:10,547
Speaker 3: the always. And I'm really sorry for the messages I'm

1607
01:22:10,587 --> 01:22:14,227
Speaker 3: not really beat off with Sky New Zealand. I get

1608
01:22:14,267 --> 01:22:16,107
Speaker 3: that you pay a lot, you want as much as

1609
01:22:16,107 --> 01:22:20,147
Speaker 3: you can possibly get. I feel your pain. I really

1610
01:22:20,187 --> 01:22:21,867
Speaker 3: do not that I watch a great deal of football.

1611
01:22:21,867 --> 01:22:25,547
Speaker 3: Maybe next week called Piney because he is absolutely addicted

1612
01:22:25,627 --> 01:22:29,067
Speaker 3: to it and being as the world most popular game.

1613
01:22:30,227 --> 01:22:33,987
Speaker 3: I understand, I get it, I carry it. But it's

1614
01:22:34,027 --> 01:22:36,747
Speaker 3: not Motorsports. At three and a half minutes to two.

1615
01:22:37,747 --> 01:22:39,867
Speaker 3: This is new Stills there be. It is a weekend

1616
01:22:39,907 --> 01:22:42,427
Speaker 3: spot on Darcy water Grave. We've got an hour to

1617
01:22:42,587 --> 01:22:47,027
Speaker 3: go and coming up after the package of new Sport

1618
01:22:47,027 --> 01:22:49,227
Speaker 3: and we're at the top of the hour. We're joined

1619
01:22:49,227 --> 01:22:52,707
Speaker 3: by Dame Sophie Pasco.

1620
01:22:53,387 --> 01:22:57,667
Speaker 1: The only place for the big names, the big issues,

1621
01:22:58,347 --> 01:23:03,867
Speaker 1: the big controversies and the big conversations. It's all on

1622
01:23:03,947 --> 01:23:08,227
Speaker 1: weekend sport on your home sport news talks.

1623
01:23:08,267 --> 01:23:08,507
Speaker 2: It'd be.

1624
01:23:10,547 --> 01:23:13,227
Speaker 3: Two down, one ago, last hour of weekends sporting at

1625
01:23:13,267 --> 01:23:15,267
Speaker 3: our SiO water Grave. Thanks for joining us six minutes

1626
01:23:15,307 --> 01:23:20,547
Speaker 3: after two Sunday afternoon, eighth of September twenty twenty four

1627
01:23:21,187 --> 01:23:24,187
Speaker 3: or the text keep coming in. No, Darcy, there is

1628
01:23:24,227 --> 01:23:27,667
Speaker 3: no wiggle room for this team now. Aren't you have

1629
01:23:27,827 --> 01:23:30,467
Speaker 3: hundreds of test caps under their belts. The coaching start.

1630
01:23:30,547 --> 01:23:34,347
Speaker 3: How many Super Rugby titles have they got yet? Husk husk,

1631
01:23:35,187 --> 01:23:38,867
Speaker 3: harsh taskmasters? We gets me that one. We gotta love

1632
01:23:38,947 --> 01:23:41,227
Speaker 3: you all, thanks for all the texts. Coming on into

1633
01:23:41,267 --> 01:23:43,947
Speaker 3: the studio. Boat and Barrett comes in with fresh legs

1634
01:23:43,987 --> 01:23:47,027
Speaker 3: and kicks the ball away multiple times, even with two

1635
01:23:47,107 --> 01:23:50,267
Speaker 3: minutes to go. Keep vincent. It's good for you. Get

1636
01:23:50,307 --> 01:23:52,147
Speaker 3: that hate out of your soul, get it out into

1637
01:23:52,187 --> 01:23:55,947
Speaker 3: the atmosphere. But another that, let's get to something slightly

1638
01:23:56,027 --> 01:24:01,107
Speaker 3: more positive. What if you did in case you missed it,

1639
01:24:01,227 --> 01:24:09,027
Speaker 3: we can cover that for you right here, right now. Oh,

1640
01:24:09,067 --> 01:24:18,747
Speaker 3: I've got my sweetpants on. Here we go. NFL from Brazil, Okay,

1641
01:24:19,507 --> 01:24:23,187
Speaker 3: all places, which ended up being a pretty happy trip

1642
01:24:23,387 --> 01:24:25,867
Speaker 3: for the Philadelphia Eagles.

1643
01:24:26,187 --> 01:24:33,267
Speaker 1: Willis slips, Willis steps up, goes down game under who else.

1644
01:24:33,067 --> 01:24:38,347
Speaker 8: But Zack bun What a day. The linebacker seals.

1645
01:24:38,027 --> 01:24:42,027
Speaker 3: It and the Eagles, in this battle of heavyweights, start

1646
01:24:42,027 --> 01:24:44,947
Speaker 3: the season with a win. Now the wires have disappeared,

1647
01:24:44,947 --> 01:24:49,587
Speaker 3: well they disappeared, and they really sorry. My team is

1648
01:24:49,627 --> 01:24:52,587
Speaker 3: the North Queensland Cowboys. Why is this? It's fairly simple.

1649
01:24:52,667 --> 01:24:55,067
Speaker 3: Tom Peyton is a top bloke. He used to catch

1650
01:24:55,067 --> 01:24:56,987
Speaker 3: the worry as I get on with the particularly well

1651
01:24:57,307 --> 01:25:00,307
Speaker 3: and Michael White runs the show pretty much, and I

1652
01:25:00,547 --> 01:25:03,947
Speaker 3: love Lucky. He's a good friend. He's a good bloke.

1653
01:25:04,067 --> 01:25:07,987
Speaker 3: He sounds fantastic. So os quite when they romped the

1654
01:25:08,067 --> 01:25:13,107
Speaker 3: way to fifth place with a donant display against the doggies, go.

1655
01:25:13,307 --> 01:25:17,027
Speaker 22: A little low kick, hopes he'll get the best a

1656
01:25:17,467 --> 01:25:21,027
Speaker 22: Valentide be by Valentine.

1657
01:25:21,067 --> 01:25:21,947
Speaker 24: That was beautiful.

1658
01:25:21,987 --> 01:25:22,427
Speaker 3: I love it.

1659
01:25:23,947 --> 01:25:27,547
Speaker 14: They're into the thirties, you'll make it thirty two.

1660
01:25:28,227 --> 01:25:32,267
Speaker 3: Valentine homes is on a rush of point, be my Valentine.

1661
01:25:32,267 --> 01:25:36,587
Speaker 3: How about it's a Valentine's Day massacre. Well maybe he

1662
01:25:36,627 --> 01:25:39,627
Speaker 3: doesn't remember the al capone days. It doesn't matter. A

1663
01:25:39,787 --> 01:25:43,587
Speaker 3: stage win at de Velta for irishman any.

1664
01:25:43,507 --> 01:25:46,827
Speaker 27: Dumber before coming into this well Trspaniar, he'd never want

1665
01:25:46,867 --> 01:25:49,027
Speaker 27: to Gramps all stage and now he's going to win

1666
01:25:49,067 --> 01:25:49,987
Speaker 27: the Queen stage.

1667
01:25:50,187 --> 01:25:52,107
Speaker 28: And Freddie Dumbar, well, this is not the look of.

1668
01:25:52,027 --> 01:25:54,947
Speaker 20: The Irish This is pure power strength.

1669
01:25:55,547 --> 01:25:59,147
Speaker 27: And Eddie Dumbar wins on the Peacon Blanc on stage twenty.

1670
01:25:59,267 --> 01:26:02,027
Speaker 3: To be sure, to be sure, there's a new US

1671
01:26:02,147 --> 01:26:04,267
Speaker 3: Open Women's champion.

1672
01:26:07,627 --> 01:26:12,867
Speaker 11: Sabalanc Soo says to learn seventy five seven five.

1673
01:26:14,027 --> 01:26:17,747
Speaker 8: She's writing there so badly for so long, and Arena sabalaka,

1674
01:26:17,947 --> 01:26:18,467
Speaker 8: that's not what.

1675
01:26:18,587 --> 01:26:19,947
Speaker 17: The U at Soca dan.

1676
01:26:20,147 --> 01:26:26,707
Speaker 3: Finally in Argentina, well not in they found themselves down

1677
01:26:26,867 --> 01:26:32,307
Speaker 3: twenty three early on against Australia. And you think the

1678
01:26:32,347 --> 01:26:36,147
Speaker 3: All Blacks are a train rick, listen to this comeback.

1679
01:26:36,347 --> 01:26:41,227
Speaker 17: Argentina looking to finish with another and run up a

1680
01:26:41,267 --> 01:26:42,787
Speaker 17: record score all time.

1681
01:26:43,307 --> 01:26:46,267
Speaker 3: Oh, Australia, they.

1682
01:26:46,267 --> 01:26:47,347
Speaker 8: Getting cut one light.

1683
01:26:47,707 --> 01:26:51,547
Speaker 3: Oh, and Argentina make it.

1684
01:26:51,827 --> 01:26:57,427
Speaker 17: A record score and a sixty seven twenty seven at

1685
01:26:57,467 --> 01:26:57,987
Speaker 17: the close.

1686
01:26:58,667 --> 01:27:02,427
Speaker 2: Analyzing every view from every angle in the Sporting World

1687
01:27:02,547 --> 01:27:03,787
Speaker 2: weekend Sport.

1688
01:27:05,787 --> 01:27:09,227
Speaker 3: Saw ten pass. Do you think he's on a rugby coach?

1689
01:27:09,227 --> 01:27:12,787
Speaker 3: As a little learned by nets. Don't go there. They

1690
01:27:12,787 --> 01:27:16,067
Speaker 3: haven't got a cat. Don't go there. Don't blot your

1691
01:27:16,107 --> 01:27:20,627
Speaker 3: copybook by going over to Australia. And don't get too

1692
01:27:20,667 --> 01:27:23,227
Speaker 3: excited if the All Blacks run ramping over top of

1693
01:27:23,227 --> 01:27:26,027
Speaker 3: the Wallabies. Where are they rent in the world at

1694
01:27:26,027 --> 01:27:29,387
Speaker 3: the moment, Andy McDonald, they're like ninth or something crazy

1695
01:27:29,547 --> 01:27:32,707
Speaker 3: like that, or tenth or eighth, doesn't matter. But hey,

1696
01:27:32,747 --> 01:27:34,347
Speaker 3: you can only play who's in front of you? But

1697
01:27:34,387 --> 01:27:37,707
Speaker 3: that's the latter on the piece. It's eleven minutes after two.

1698
01:27:38,187 --> 01:27:42,667
Speaker 3: Let's focus now on the Paralympics. It's winding up. Wow,

1699
01:27:42,787 --> 01:27:45,707
Speaker 3: and it has been fantastic. There really has been. I

1700
01:27:45,707 --> 01:27:48,587
Speaker 3: hope you've caught some of the coverage, blanket coverage on

1701
01:27:48,667 --> 01:27:51,387
Speaker 3: TV and Z, which is where our next guest has

1702
01:27:51,387 --> 01:27:54,227
Speaker 3: been spending a bit of a time eleven times Paralympic.

1703
01:27:54,267 --> 01:27:58,067
Speaker 3: The gold medalist, Dame Sophie pass Go. It's any well,

1704
01:27:58,507 --> 01:28:01,707
Speaker 3: isn't it, Sophie. Look, we've got to talk about Anagramaldi.

1705
01:28:02,227 --> 01:28:04,827
Speaker 3: What a way to sign off for Paralympics after well,

1706
01:28:05,067 --> 01:28:06,747
Speaker 3: such disappointment the line jump.

1707
01:28:06,827 --> 01:28:11,507
Speaker 27: Yeah absolutely, I mean look, she ran that two hundred perfectly.

1708
01:28:11,547 --> 01:28:13,147
Speaker 28: It was executed really well.

1709
01:28:14,347 --> 01:28:17,667
Speaker 27: And yeah, after I know, her disappoint her personal own

1710
01:28:17,707 --> 01:28:20,467
Speaker 27: disappointment of the long jump and not being able to

1711
01:28:20,507 --> 01:28:23,467
Speaker 27: get onto the pom podium or you know, retain her

1712
01:28:24,827 --> 01:28:29,387
Speaker 27: gold medal status from Tokyo and Rio. Yeah, the pain

1713
01:28:29,467 --> 01:28:31,467
Speaker 27: she would have felt through that and to be able

1714
01:28:31,547 --> 01:28:36,067
Speaker 27: to come back the following day and to just execute

1715
01:28:36,107 --> 01:28:38,467
Speaker 27: a race the way she did was phenomenal.

1716
01:28:38,947 --> 01:28:41,907
Speaker 3: Well, revenge is a word she's used quite a lot,

1717
01:28:42,027 --> 01:28:44,667
Speaker 3: not revenge for the long jump, but revenge from the

1718
01:28:44,747 --> 01:28:48,267
Speaker 3: two hundred meters, which hasn't treated her that well. That's

1719
01:28:48,307 --> 01:28:52,827
Speaker 3: a long hell drive, isn't it an interesting one? Yeah?

1720
01:28:52,827 --> 01:28:55,067
Speaker 27: But I actually wouldn't be surprised. You know the fact

1721
01:28:55,107 --> 01:28:58,587
Speaker 27: that she bought in the one hundred meters over this past.

1722
01:28:58,307 --> 01:28:59,467
Speaker 28: Couple of years.

1723
01:29:00,907 --> 01:29:04,667
Speaker 27: Has actually contributed to that two hundred meters. Usually we

1724
01:29:04,707 --> 01:29:08,027
Speaker 27: actually find that, you know, if you the two hundred, you.

1725
01:29:07,987 --> 01:29:09,467
Speaker 28: Know you've got another hundred to go.

1726
01:29:09,587 --> 01:29:12,307
Speaker 27: Absolutely, but the training she would have been doing for

1727
01:29:12,347 --> 01:29:15,827
Speaker 27: that hundred would have absolutely have, you know, contributed to this.

1728
01:29:17,867 --> 01:29:21,147
Speaker 27: I mean, she ran the hundred gracefully and beautifully as well.

1729
01:29:22,107 --> 01:29:24,827
Speaker 27: You know, she's she clearly says she's not one hundred

1730
01:29:24,907 --> 01:29:27,107
Speaker 27: meter runner, but the fact that she was able to

1731
01:29:27,147 --> 01:29:30,747
Speaker 27: obviously get a bronze and the hundred meters, you know,

1732
01:29:30,987 --> 01:29:34,627
Speaker 27: is a huge achievement to when you're not, you know,

1733
01:29:34,747 --> 01:29:35,427
Speaker 27: so called one.

1734
01:29:35,347 --> 01:29:36,307
Speaker 28: Hundred meter sprinter.

1735
01:29:36,787 --> 01:29:39,267
Speaker 27: And then you know the fact that yes she's you know,

1736
01:29:39,347 --> 01:29:43,147
Speaker 27: the two hundred, it's revenge for her. But yeah, I

1737
01:29:43,147 --> 01:29:45,467
Speaker 27: would have I would have absolutely have said this, the

1738
01:29:45,507 --> 01:29:48,227
Speaker 27: one hundred meters would have the training for that would

1739
01:29:48,227 --> 01:29:50,587
Speaker 27: have contributed to how well she executed this two.

1740
01:29:50,547 --> 01:29:55,387
Speaker 3: Hundred Interesting with the athletes, every athlete I talked to

1741
01:29:55,387 --> 01:29:58,627
Speaker 3: at the Paralympics, it's all about PBS. It's not about

1742
01:29:58,747 --> 01:30:02,587
Speaker 3: winning medals. That's quite the drive, isn't it.

1743
01:30:03,427 --> 01:30:06,947
Speaker 27: Yes, I mean a personal best usually reflects obviously the

1744
01:30:07,027 --> 01:30:11,027
Speaker 27: outcome of a medal, and especially if you have obviously

1745
01:30:11,107 --> 01:30:14,867
Speaker 27: already gone into the games as the expected or the hunted,

1746
01:30:15,827 --> 01:30:19,227
Speaker 27: because you know, your PB is usually reflected, you know,

1747
01:30:19,267 --> 01:30:22,907
Speaker 27: within that top table or maybe there's Paralympic record next

1748
01:30:22,907 --> 01:30:24,867
Speaker 27: to your name or a world record next to your name,

1749
01:30:24,947 --> 01:30:27,907
Speaker 27: so you know, all you can ask of yourself on

1750
01:30:27,987 --> 01:30:31,787
Speaker 27: the day is to give one hundred percent. And you know,

1751
01:30:31,907 --> 01:30:35,347
Speaker 27: we are striving to find a personal best time because

1752
01:30:35,587 --> 01:30:38,707
Speaker 27: you know then that's the best race you've ever done.

1753
01:30:40,387 --> 01:30:43,227
Speaker 3: You know all about being the hunted. You made that

1754
01:30:43,427 --> 01:30:48,667
Speaker 3: comment before energy going into a Paralympics knowing you've got

1755
01:30:48,707 --> 01:30:51,707
Speaker 3: to target on your back? How do you deal with that?

1756
01:30:51,747 --> 01:30:54,627
Speaker 3: What's the best way to work through that pressure?

1757
01:30:56,107 --> 01:30:56,267
Speaker 19: Oh?

1758
01:30:56,307 --> 01:31:00,147
Speaker 27: Look, it's definitely a daily mindset for when you turn

1759
01:31:00,227 --> 01:31:03,427
Speaker 27: up every day to you know, for me personally, obviously

1760
01:31:03,427 --> 01:31:06,667
Speaker 27: it was the poll and the gym or where you know,

1761
01:31:06,787 --> 01:31:11,107
Speaker 27: all my training sessions. But people have to understand, you know,

1762
01:31:11,107 --> 01:31:16,147
Speaker 27: in an athlete's world, you know, it's it is about, you.

1763
01:31:16,107 --> 01:31:19,187
Speaker 28: Know, trying to obviously achieve to be the best in

1764
01:31:19,227 --> 01:31:19,667
Speaker 28: the world.

1765
01:31:19,827 --> 01:31:23,827
Speaker 27: And you know, for us, it's not just a professional sport.

1766
01:31:23,987 --> 01:31:27,107
Speaker 27: It's a personal to us as well, because we know

1767
01:31:27,147 --> 01:31:30,107
Speaker 27: when we come home it is about obviously the recovery.

1768
01:31:30,587 --> 01:31:33,427
Speaker 27: And you know, what we do at home reflects how

1769
01:31:33,427 --> 01:31:36,627
Speaker 27: we train and then how we perform on the world stage.

1770
01:31:36,947 --> 01:31:40,507
Speaker 27: So mindset is a huge part of that. It's not

1771
01:31:40,627 --> 01:31:43,267
Speaker 27: just the physical side, and to be able to turn

1772
01:31:43,347 --> 01:31:46,787
Speaker 27: off when you get home, you know, just enough to

1773
01:31:46,827 --> 01:31:50,107
Speaker 27: be able to obviously focus on that recovery or maybe

1774
01:31:50,187 --> 01:31:53,427
Speaker 27: take it, you know, do some mindleness, you know, wellness

1775
01:31:53,427 --> 01:31:56,947
Speaker 27: and minded mindfulness. You know, all of those are part

1776
01:31:56,987 --> 01:31:59,147
Speaker 27: of how to execute when you get onto a big

1777
01:31:59,147 --> 01:32:03,547
Speaker 27: world stage as being the hunted. And you know, if

1778
01:32:03,587 --> 01:32:05,547
Speaker 27: we use Ana Grimolda, you know she has got the

1779
01:32:05,547 --> 01:32:08,627
Speaker 27: previous experience and you know, the debutantes that have come

1780
01:32:08,627 --> 01:32:11,547
Speaker 27: into this particular games, you are going to learn that

1781
01:32:11,667 --> 01:32:16,947
Speaker 27: because in a Paralympic environment, it's unpredictable. You know, there's

1782
01:32:16,987 --> 01:32:21,067
Speaker 27: so many external factors going on, and it's really hard

1783
01:32:21,107 --> 01:32:24,227
Speaker 27: to explain to people what a Paralympic Games, or in

1784
01:32:24,267 --> 01:32:27,907
Speaker 27: Olympic Games is really like unless you've been there and

1785
01:32:28,507 --> 01:32:32,187
Speaker 27: really soaked in, you know, the atmosphere, because it is

1786
01:32:32,267 --> 01:32:36,907
Speaker 27: it's just it's a whole it's its own whole world.

1787
01:32:37,067 --> 01:32:40,627
Speaker 28: You know, it's not it's many sports that are there.

1788
01:32:40,787 --> 01:32:44,427
Speaker 27: You've got world champions walking around you.

1789
01:32:44,427 --> 01:32:47,267
Speaker 28: You're living in a you know, enclosed environment.

1790
01:32:48,507 --> 01:32:52,067
Speaker 27: Everything is put on a much bigger scale, and when

1791
01:32:52,107 --> 01:32:56,267
Speaker 27: you've been so used to either national championships or world championships,

1792
01:32:56,467 --> 01:33:00,387
Speaker 27: it is completely different. So you can never really prepare yourself,

1793
01:33:01,547 --> 01:33:03,507
Speaker 27: you know fully what a Paralympic Games is going to

1794
01:33:03,507 --> 01:33:05,427
Speaker 27: give you, But you can only prepare yourself the best

1795
01:33:05,427 --> 01:33:11,427
Speaker 27: you possibly can. Most athletes do a lot of mindfulness training,

1796
01:33:11,467 --> 01:33:14,947
Speaker 27: They work with their psychologists, they try and you know,

1797
01:33:15,467 --> 01:33:18,107
Speaker 27: you know, factor that into their trainings to be able

1798
01:33:18,147 --> 01:33:21,147
Speaker 27: to replicate as best they possibly can what you know

1799
01:33:21,147 --> 01:33:23,827
Speaker 27: they're going to expect at the Paralympic Games.

1800
01:33:23,987 --> 01:33:28,347
Speaker 3: It's been really important of recent times across a number

1801
01:33:28,427 --> 01:33:32,467
Speaker 3: of different sports, not just swimming, not just athletics, at

1802
01:33:32,547 --> 01:33:35,147
Speaker 3: various games. So you've I want to say you've been

1803
01:33:35,187 --> 01:33:38,827
Speaker 3: around the block, but how many Olympic Games you've been to? Four?

1804
01:33:38,867 --> 01:33:40,627
Speaker 3: I think it has started off in Beijing. Have you

1805
01:33:40,787 --> 01:33:45,267
Speaker 3: noticed that over your career the focus now on the

1806
01:33:45,307 --> 01:33:47,107
Speaker 3: mental health and the wellness of the athletes.

1807
01:33:48,507 --> 01:33:52,347
Speaker 27: Yeah, it's absolutely huge, And neck comes down to, you know,

1808
01:33:52,427 --> 01:33:54,747
Speaker 27: how much bigger these games are getting every year. The

1809
01:33:54,867 --> 01:34:00,387
Speaker 27: media that's you know, around the Paralympic Games and around

1810
01:34:00,467 --> 01:34:04,027
Speaker 27: the athletes, but also people are talking about mental health

1811
01:34:04,747 --> 01:34:10,027
Speaker 27: and it's crucial or you know, the fact that, like

1812
01:34:10,107 --> 01:34:13,147
Speaker 27: I said before, it's not a professional sport to us,

1813
01:34:13,187 --> 01:34:17,547
Speaker 27: it's personal as well. And it is pretty hard to

1814
01:34:17,587 --> 01:34:21,147
Speaker 27: switch off when you you know, close the door, you know,

1815
01:34:21,187 --> 01:34:24,067
Speaker 27: when you come home from a training session, because you can't.

1816
01:34:24,067 --> 01:34:28,827
Speaker 27: You've got to be constantly factoring in all those smaller

1817
01:34:28,867 --> 01:34:32,147
Speaker 27: things that you know, provide for the bigger you know,

1818
01:34:32,227 --> 01:34:37,267
Speaker 27: outcome and goal. But you know, I think it's great

1819
01:34:37,307 --> 01:34:40,427
Speaker 27: that athletes are talking more and more about their mental health.

1820
01:34:41,707 --> 01:34:45,107
Speaker 27: It's very important to you know, be open and honest

1821
01:34:45,187 --> 01:34:47,987
Speaker 27: because you know, the pressure that you put on yourself

1822
01:34:48,107 --> 01:34:50,027
Speaker 27: is usually the biggest pressure.

1823
01:34:50,067 --> 01:34:53,347
Speaker 28: But then when you obviously you know, become.

1824
01:34:53,347 --> 01:34:57,467
Speaker 27: An expected within the environment of your field of play.

1825
01:34:58,547 --> 01:34:59,907
Speaker 28: Yeah, people do have.

1826
01:34:59,747 --> 01:35:04,107
Speaker 27: That external pressure as well put on them, and yeah,

1827
01:35:04,187 --> 01:35:07,827
Speaker 27: I do think it's really important to constantly, you know,

1828
01:35:07,947 --> 01:35:12,187
Speaker 27: checking in with yourself and remembering that actually, you know,

1829
01:35:12,667 --> 01:35:16,427
Speaker 27: at the end of the day, you are loved beyond

1830
01:35:16,547 --> 01:35:19,907
Speaker 27: the outcome of you know, a medal or a placing.

1831
01:35:20,467 --> 01:35:23,467
Speaker 3: You're more than just your sport. And again that goes

1832
01:35:23,547 --> 01:35:26,747
Speaker 3: right across a number of different sports, team sports and

1833
01:35:26,827 --> 01:35:31,467
Speaker 3: individual sports. We're joined by Dame Sophie Pasco. We better

1834
01:35:31,547 --> 01:35:34,307
Speaker 3: talk about I've gotten this conversation with you and I'm

1835
01:35:34,347 --> 01:35:37,707
Speaker 3: loving it. But the athletes themselves at the Paralympics one

1836
01:35:37,787 --> 01:35:43,307
Speaker 3: gold medal, four silver medals, three bronze medals. How does

1837
01:35:43,347 --> 01:35:45,587
Speaker 3: that reflect on the team? Do you think? Is it

1838
01:35:45,627 --> 01:35:48,387
Speaker 3: about that tin count or is it about more than that?

1839
01:35:49,667 --> 01:35:51,147
Speaker 28: It's absolutely about more than that.

1840
01:35:51,227 --> 01:35:54,747
Speaker 27: You know, we've got one of our tightest teams over there.

1841
01:35:55,867 --> 01:35:58,267
Speaker 27: You know, there's a small team there, you know, it's

1842
01:35:58,307 --> 01:36:01,027
Speaker 27: twenty five athletes and then you've got the support stuff

1843
01:36:02,107 --> 01:36:04,547
Speaker 27: you know on top of that as well that have

1844
01:36:04,627 --> 01:36:08,667
Speaker 27: joined the team. And the beauty of New Zealand, the

1845
01:36:08,707 --> 01:36:12,467
Speaker 27: New Zealand Paralympic team is that we usually do have

1846
01:36:12,507 --> 01:36:16,667
Speaker 27: a small team, so you do become a real tight family.

1847
01:36:17,307 --> 01:36:23,347
Speaker 27: And yes, you know, medals are absolutely what every athlete

1848
01:36:23,427 --> 01:36:25,467
Speaker 27: is striving for, do not get me wrong.

1849
01:36:25,587 --> 01:36:27,867
Speaker 28: But no matter if you've won a medal.

1850
01:36:27,747 --> 01:36:30,707
Speaker 27: Or not, when you come back to the village, your

1851
01:36:30,787 --> 01:36:34,467
Speaker 27: family are standing there, meaning your teammates and your support

1852
01:36:34,627 --> 01:36:37,187
Speaker 27: staff are standing there waiting for you.

1853
01:36:37,787 --> 01:36:40,587
Speaker 28: To embrace you. And that is so important.

1854
01:36:40,667 --> 01:36:44,147
Speaker 27: And what I have noticed about these games by you know,

1855
01:36:44,267 --> 01:36:48,027
Speaker 27: keeping in touch with my fellow athletes, is that they

1856
01:36:48,067 --> 01:36:50,587
Speaker 27: have been doing that and that they've been supporting one

1857
01:36:50,627 --> 01:36:55,947
Speaker 27: another through triumph and through defeat, and that is you know,

1858
01:36:56,587 --> 01:36:58,907
Speaker 27: you can't ask for much more than that, And I

1859
01:36:58,947 --> 01:37:03,587
Speaker 27: think that's why we are really close knit type family.

1860
01:37:03,787 --> 01:37:07,267
Speaker 27: And you know, yes we've gained a gold medal overnight,

1861
01:37:07,347 --> 01:37:11,427
Speaker 27: we've you know, got you know, numerous silvers and bronze

1862
01:37:11,427 --> 01:37:14,507
Speaker 27: throughout the meat. But I know that this team will

1863
01:37:14,547 --> 01:37:17,507
Speaker 27: be walking away with memories of a lifetime with the

1864
01:37:17,547 --> 01:37:20,547
Speaker 27: family members that they've created within the team.

1865
01:37:20,787 --> 01:37:24,027
Speaker 3: So for you, you mentioned the size of the games,

1866
01:37:24,027 --> 01:37:27,027
Speaker 3: it's getting bigger and bigger and bigger. Was there a

1867
01:37:27,027 --> 01:37:29,267
Speaker 3: part of you that got a bit of a bit

1868
01:37:29,387 --> 01:37:33,067
Speaker 3: jealous that you weren't actually there competing. Because the event

1869
01:37:33,427 --> 01:37:37,587
Speaker 3: Paris was extraordinary. The crowds were wild, and that's a

1870
01:37:37,747 --> 01:37:39,867
Speaker 3: seriously big event. There must have been a wee bit

1871
01:37:39,907 --> 01:37:41,827
Speaker 3: of I mean, I wish I was there.

1872
01:37:44,227 --> 01:37:48,227
Speaker 27: Look, when the Olympic Games were on, I actually did

1873
01:37:48,307 --> 01:37:52,747
Speaker 27: get quite a lot of fomo. I was getting nervous.

1874
01:37:53,147 --> 01:37:57,307
Speaker 27: You know, the Paralympics were obviously coming up, and the

1875
01:37:57,347 --> 01:38:00,027
Speaker 27: Olympics will always used as you know, for me, I

1876
01:38:00,067 --> 01:38:01,147
Speaker 27: was always overseas.

1877
01:38:01,267 --> 01:38:02,107
Speaker 28: I was always.

1878
01:38:01,827 --> 01:38:05,587
Speaker 27: Training getting ready for the Paralympic event, which is usually

1879
01:38:05,667 --> 01:38:10,307
Speaker 27: two or three weeks afterwards, and so when they were on,

1880
01:38:10,947 --> 01:38:15,147
Speaker 27: I yeah, I was just really feeling you know, oh

1881
01:38:15,187 --> 01:38:16,907
Speaker 27: my goodness, what am I going to feel in three

1882
01:38:16,907 --> 01:38:19,427
Speaker 27: weeks time when I'm you know, sitting behind a desk

1883
01:38:19,507 --> 01:38:23,387
Speaker 27: presenting Paralympic Games? You know, am I going to be

1884
01:38:23,427 --> 01:38:27,187
Speaker 27: feeling this? But the fact the day one, when I

1885
01:38:27,187 --> 01:38:32,027
Speaker 27: sat next to Scottie, you know, I actually felt really content.

1886
01:38:32,107 --> 01:38:34,907
Speaker 27: And I think that's because I knew I was still

1887
01:38:34,987 --> 01:38:37,827
Speaker 27: part of the team, but in a different capacity. And

1888
01:38:38,627 --> 01:38:41,867
Speaker 27: you know, I am about enhancing the Paralympic movement and

1889
01:38:42,027 --> 01:38:44,547
Speaker 27: I want to be able to obviously do that with

1890
01:38:44,707 --> 01:38:46,587
Speaker 27: you know the platform that I've been able to create,

1891
01:38:47,227 --> 01:38:51,387
Speaker 27: and so I feel like I have just really enjoyed

1892
01:38:51,987 --> 01:38:56,107
Speaker 27: sitting back watching our new New Zealand athletes take on

1893
01:38:56,147 --> 01:38:59,067
Speaker 27: the world stage and watching the games, and I've just

1894
01:38:59,147 --> 01:39:04,027
Speaker 27: loved embracing it. I've loved being you know, presenting and

1895
01:39:04,707 --> 01:39:07,307
Speaker 27: you know, getting the word out there that the Paralympics

1896
01:39:07,347 --> 01:39:11,267
Speaker 27: are parallel to the Olympic Games. And watch these athletes.

1897
01:39:11,307 --> 01:39:16,467
Speaker 27: They are important, they are vital to sport, and they

1898
01:39:16,507 --> 01:39:19,667
Speaker 27: are an inspiration and not an inspiration for being disabled,

1899
01:39:19,707 --> 01:39:22,147
Speaker 27: They're an inspiration for taking on the world and for

1900
01:39:22,227 --> 01:39:29,907
Speaker 27: their achievements. So I have been absolutely okay where you know,

1901
01:39:29,987 --> 01:39:34,707
Speaker 27: sitting where I'm sitting and really been laughing up you know,

1902
01:39:34,747 --> 01:39:35,707
Speaker 27: the Paris content.

1903
01:39:36,107 --> 01:39:39,027
Speaker 3: What have you been doing? An absolutely splendid job from

1904
01:39:39,067 --> 01:39:41,627
Speaker 3: from my point of view anyway, and watching it and

1905
01:39:41,627 --> 01:39:44,307
Speaker 3: one last thing before we let you go, Dame Sophie

1906
01:39:44,387 --> 01:39:46,987
Speaker 3: pass go and thanks so much for your time. Just

1907
01:39:47,067 --> 01:39:49,547
Speaker 3: like in the Olympics, it's the way heine doing it again.

1908
01:39:49,627 --> 01:39:51,827
Speaker 3: They're putting the DNA to shame, aren't they.

1909
01:39:53,947 --> 01:39:56,587
Speaker 28: Look I just you know, I think.

1910
01:39:57,947 --> 01:40:00,507
Speaker 27: Sport is growing so much more and more, and the

1911
01:40:00,587 --> 01:40:04,147
Speaker 27: fact that our Wahini here in New Zealand, are you know,

1912
01:40:04,227 --> 01:40:05,827
Speaker 27: being so successful.

1913
01:40:06,467 --> 01:40:09,267
Speaker 28: It's all power to the females.

1914
01:40:09,307 --> 01:40:12,867
Speaker 27: You know, we are getting deeper and deeper within our

1915
01:40:12,907 --> 01:40:16,827
Speaker 27: sports and really proving you know, our mark on the

1916
01:40:16,867 --> 01:40:20,387
Speaker 27: world stage. And it's fantastic to see. And you know,

1917
01:40:20,467 --> 01:40:25,667
Speaker 27: I think it's so crucial towards you know, the next

1918
01:40:25,707 --> 01:40:30,507
Speaker 27: generation going forth that you know, the females can you know,

1919
01:40:30,587 --> 01:40:32,867
Speaker 27: really show the world what they can do.

1920
01:40:33,347 --> 01:40:36,747
Speaker 3: It's been a fantastic time. It still has yet to finish.

1921
01:40:36,747 --> 01:40:38,907
Speaker 3: It's still got another day to go before it winds up.

1922
01:40:38,947 --> 01:40:42,227
Speaker 3: We'll be staring at you and old so much Stevenson

1923
01:40:42,707 --> 01:40:44,707
Speaker 3: on TV and Z Plus as you bring us all

1924
01:40:44,787 --> 01:40:47,947
Speaker 3: of that coverage. It is so welcomed and we love

1925
01:40:47,987 --> 01:40:49,787
Speaker 3: the fact you joined us here on news Talk to EB.

1926
01:40:50,027 --> 01:40:53,507
Speaker 3: Dame Sophie Pasco, thanks very much for your time, Thank you,

1927
01:40:54,507 --> 01:40:57,467
Speaker 3: thank you. Twenty four minutes after two, I'm going to

1928
01:40:57,467 --> 01:40:59,147
Speaker 3: give you the update you don't want. If you're a

1929
01:40:59,147 --> 01:41:03,507
Speaker 3: football fan, you're ready for this. Sixty three minutes in

1930
01:41:03,587 --> 01:41:08,947
Speaker 3: New Zealand are being beaten up by Mexico three zip,

1931
01:41:09,387 --> 01:41:11,987
Speaker 3: three nil. Your whites are going down that current and

1932
01:41:12,067 --> 01:41:15,147
Speaker 3: this is a very good all white team too. This

1933
01:41:15,187 --> 01:41:19,547
Speaker 3: is peppered with names with good players and saying that

1934
01:41:19,627 --> 01:41:22,107
Speaker 3: Mexico hardly came down a last shower, did they.

1935
01:41:22,227 --> 01:41:22,307
Speaker 22: So?

1936
01:41:22,867 --> 01:41:24,867
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's away from home. Bit of a lesson there

1937
01:41:24,947 --> 01:41:26,907
Speaker 3: that game. Yet still with a while to go, keep

1938
01:41:26,987 --> 01:41:28,987
Speaker 3: up to date with that as best I can. Coming

1939
01:41:29,027 --> 01:41:31,107
Speaker 3: up shortly though, are we going to talk a bit

1940
01:41:31,147 --> 01:41:34,347
Speaker 3: of Test cricket. Yeah, cricket season is upon us. Yeah, sure,

1941
01:41:34,347 --> 01:41:37,587
Speaker 3: it's over the sub continent, but it's underway. What a start.

1942
01:41:37,747 --> 01:41:41,627
Speaker 3: Six consecutive tests away from home. Crazy And we'll be

1943
01:41:41,707 --> 01:41:46,307
Speaker 3: joined by AJZ Patel up next here on News Talks EB.

1944
01:41:47,267 --> 01:41:49,107
Speaker 2: It's more than just a game.

1945
01:41:49,427 --> 01:41:54,067
Speaker 1: Weekend Sport is GJ gunnomes New Zealand's most trusted home builder.

1946
01:41:54,187 --> 01:41:58,627
Speaker 3: News Talks NB two twenty eight on the Weekend Sport. Yeah,

1947
01:41:58,827 --> 01:42:02,427
Speaker 3: the Mexicans scored through Pinata in the fifth minute and

1948
01:42:02,467 --> 01:42:06,507
Speaker 3: then Huta and Romo in the fifty three and fifty

1949
01:42:06,627 --> 01:42:09,707
Speaker 3: seventh minute, fifty third and fifty seventh minute. Three is

1950
01:42:09,787 --> 01:42:12,467
Speaker 3: up in that game so far. Sorry to be depressing,

1951
01:42:12,507 --> 01:42:15,747
Speaker 3: I'm just telling the information. Twenty eight after two Test

1952
01:42:15,787 --> 01:42:19,307
Speaker 3: cricket is on the way back, yes, and the time

1953
01:42:19,707 --> 01:42:22,467
Speaker 3: is brilliant for those of you have nothing to do

1954
01:42:22,547 --> 01:42:25,707
Speaker 3: at night except sit in front of the TV. Welcome

1955
01:42:25,747 --> 01:42:27,707
Speaker 3: to my world. The black Caps are back. It's in

1956
01:42:27,747 --> 01:42:30,827
Speaker 3: the subcontinent. There's a whole lot of Test cricket going on.

1957
01:42:31,427 --> 01:42:36,387
Speaker 3: Ajz Ptel spinner obviously very fond memories of playing over

1958
01:42:36,427 --> 01:42:42,387
Speaker 3: in India. It's gone very high.

1959
01:42:42,627 --> 01:42:50,587
Speaker 5: Do you mean takes not standing?

1960
01:42:52,747 --> 01:42:55,227
Speaker 8: Fantastic? Fantastic?

1961
01:42:55,587 --> 01:42:56,907
Speaker 17: What a pleasure, what a.

1962
01:42:56,987 --> 01:43:00,827
Speaker 8: Privilege to be here to see this very very rare.

1963
01:43:00,707 --> 01:43:05,667
Speaker 3: Achievement, very rare. Only three players have achieved ten wickets

1964
01:43:05,707 --> 01:43:07,867
Speaker 3: and he did it in his home. It's in Mumbai

1965
01:43:07,947 --> 01:43:10,427
Speaker 3: and it's where he was born. How good and what

1966
01:43:10,627 --> 01:43:14,907
Speaker 3: was his reward? Drops didn't play here for quite some time?

1967
01:43:14,947 --> 01:43:17,987
Speaker 3: Ore the nature of being a spinner in New zeal And.

1968
01:43:17,987 --> 01:43:21,027
Speaker 3: Then we've got them on the blow and Agezy, you

1969
01:43:21,107 --> 01:43:24,227
Speaker 3: must be BRUTTI stoke pretty written to be back in

1970
01:43:24,427 --> 01:43:25,347
Speaker 3: white again.

1971
01:43:25,427 --> 01:43:29,627
Speaker 6: What an exciting time, great Darcy, Yeah, it's very exciting.

1972
01:43:29,667 --> 01:43:32,307
Speaker 6: It's always a privilege to play for the black Caps

1973
01:43:32,307 --> 01:43:36,547
Speaker 6: and obviously coming into these conditions, you know there's a

1974
01:43:36,547 --> 01:43:38,947
Speaker 6: big role to play, so it's it's quite exciting.

1975
01:43:38,947 --> 01:43:39,947
Speaker 20: As a spinner, I.

1976
01:43:39,907 --> 01:43:42,867
Speaker 6: Guess you know, going away from home, but also in

1977
01:43:42,907 --> 01:43:46,547
Speaker 6: conditions where you know, hopefully things will be favorable for you.

1978
01:43:46,987 --> 01:43:48,787
Speaker 3: How much of this do you carry on your shoulders?

1979
01:43:48,827 --> 01:43:50,787
Speaker 3: But there's there's a few spinners out there. You've got

1980
01:43:50,787 --> 01:43:53,187
Speaker 3: a pilot, a couple of part timers, a couple of

1981
01:43:53,187 --> 01:43:55,787
Speaker 3: all rounders, a couple of you know fully spin Mean,

1982
01:43:56,027 --> 01:43:58,947
Speaker 3: it's quite a phalanx of you blokes, isn't there. How

1983
01:43:58,987 --> 01:44:01,667
Speaker 3: do you fit into this? Do you like the senior dude?

1984
01:44:03,067 --> 01:44:04,987
Speaker 20: No, No, I don't. I don't really look at it

1985
01:44:05,027 --> 01:44:05,347
Speaker 20: that way.

1986
01:44:05,387 --> 01:44:08,507
Speaker 6: I think we've got a big group of spinners, and

1987
01:44:08,627 --> 01:44:11,067
Speaker 6: our spinners are developing quite well at the moment. So

1988
01:44:11,107 --> 01:44:13,747
Speaker 6: we're all I guess working together towards a common goal

1989
01:44:13,827 --> 01:44:17,787
Speaker 6: and you know, and I guess in common New Zealand fashion,

1990
01:44:17,987 --> 01:44:20,587
Speaker 6: I guess it's all about the collective and working together

1991
01:44:20,707 --> 01:44:23,907
Speaker 6: and so yeah, whatever we can do to kind of

1992
01:44:23,987 --> 01:44:25,907
Speaker 6: I guess influence a result in our.

1993
01:44:25,787 --> 01:44:27,707
Speaker 20: Favor where we're going to go out there and give

1994
01:44:27,747 --> 01:44:29,907
Speaker 20: it our all. But I think we all back each

1995
01:44:29,947 --> 01:44:31,467
Speaker 20: other to do our roles.

1996
01:44:31,987 --> 01:44:35,627
Speaker 3: I'm presuming that it's going to be a bit of

1997
01:44:35,627 --> 01:44:37,467
Speaker 3: this and a bit of that. As far as who's playing.

1998
01:44:37,467 --> 01:44:39,147
Speaker 3: I mean, you're hardly going to roll in with the

1999
01:44:39,467 --> 01:44:42,587
Speaker 3: complete deck of spinners, are you. So how is that

2000
01:44:42,667 --> 01:44:45,427
Speaker 3: going to work? Have you spoken with the coaching staff

2001
01:44:45,467 --> 01:44:47,747
Speaker 3: about who plays when and where? Is it a match

2002
01:44:47,787 --> 01:44:50,147
Speaker 3: by match basis? How does that actually operate? Do you think?

2003
01:44:50,187 --> 01:44:52,507
Speaker 3: Ajsu in all?

2004
01:44:52,507 --> 01:44:54,307
Speaker 20: Honestly, I think it's beyond my paycheck.

2005
01:44:54,907 --> 01:44:56,987
Speaker 3: Oh come on, you must have talked to them, surely

2006
01:44:57,267 --> 01:44:59,907
Speaker 3: he said something. Come on, mate, No, I.

2007
01:44:59,787 --> 01:45:00,867
Speaker 20: Mean, I guess.

2008
01:45:00,907 --> 01:45:02,827
Speaker 6: I guess it's really up to the coaches in terms

2009
01:45:02,867 --> 01:45:05,827
Speaker 6: of figuring out what the right balances for us going

2010
01:45:05,827 --> 01:45:08,107
Speaker 6: into these and what they're really looking for.

2011
01:45:08,147 --> 01:45:09,587
Speaker 20: And I think some of it.

2012
01:45:09,507 --> 01:45:12,347
Speaker 6: Comes down to the conditions, but also I guess the opposition,

2013
01:45:12,467 --> 01:45:15,187
Speaker 6: and you know, sometimes it might be the amount of

2014
01:45:15,307 --> 01:45:19,587
Speaker 6: left handers versus right handers, or if the picket, if

2015
01:45:19,587 --> 01:45:21,547
Speaker 6: the wicket we believe is going to break up quite

2016
01:45:21,547 --> 01:45:25,387
Speaker 6: a lot or not, And I guess that really plays

2017
01:45:25,427 --> 01:45:27,987
Speaker 6: a big part in these conditions. And I guess you

2018
01:45:28,067 --> 01:45:30,827
Speaker 6: tailor your team based on the conditions and the team

2019
01:45:30,867 --> 01:45:33,587
Speaker 6: in front of you, especially in the subcontinent, because we

2020
01:45:33,747 --> 01:45:36,987
Speaker 6: know how big a role spin can play here. So

2021
01:45:37,747 --> 01:45:39,827
Speaker 6: I guess it really comes down to them and their

2022
01:45:39,907 --> 01:45:42,347
Speaker 6: gut feel on. You know, what's the best way for

2023
01:45:42,507 --> 01:45:45,667
Speaker 6: us to kind of, I guess break it down against

2024
01:45:45,667 --> 01:45:48,547
Speaker 6: a certain opposition. So it'll be interesting but quite an

2025
01:45:48,547 --> 01:45:51,147
Speaker 6: exciting time for all us spinners because we all know

2026
01:45:51,227 --> 01:45:53,187
Speaker 6: that we're all in the mix to play a fair

2027
01:45:53,227 --> 01:45:53,627
Speaker 6: but a test.

2028
01:45:54,067 --> 01:45:55,867
Speaker 3: How do you count to the weather? That's got to

2029
01:45:55,867 --> 01:45:58,387
Speaker 3: be the toughest one. Surely I'm not about the food.

2030
01:45:58,427 --> 01:46:01,147
Speaker 3: I know, shame Warren took a Palettelader baked beans. But

2031
01:46:01,547 --> 01:46:04,307
Speaker 3: food's one thing where there's another thing. Is there any

2032
01:46:04,307 --> 01:46:07,547
Speaker 3: way to actually acclimatize to that in a or not? Ages?

2033
01:46:08,667 --> 01:46:08,787
Speaker 19: Oh?

2034
01:46:08,907 --> 01:46:11,227
Speaker 20: I guess it just comes down to fitness.

2035
01:46:11,987 --> 01:46:13,867
Speaker 6: You know, our trainer works us pretty hard to make

2036
01:46:13,867 --> 01:46:16,627
Speaker 6: sure that we're fit enough to deal with these conditions,

2037
01:46:16,867 --> 01:46:19,227
Speaker 6: and Chris is fantastic and the boys are quite fit

2038
01:46:19,307 --> 01:46:20,867
Speaker 6: and ready to go.

2039
01:46:21,107 --> 01:46:23,027
Speaker 20: I guess when it comes to heat, you can't really

2040
01:46:23,067 --> 01:46:23,427
Speaker 20: do much.

2041
01:46:23,467 --> 01:46:25,947
Speaker 6: It's just, you know, I guess, accepting the fact that

2042
01:46:25,987 --> 01:46:27,667
Speaker 6: it's going to be hot, it's going to be sticky, and.

2043
01:46:28,187 --> 01:46:29,147
Speaker 20: Getting on with the job.

2044
01:46:29,227 --> 01:46:31,467
Speaker 6: And I mean, you know, we're all professionals at the

2045
01:46:31,547 --> 01:46:33,347
Speaker 6: end of the day, and we're expected to I guess

2046
01:46:33,387 --> 01:46:35,827
Speaker 6: you know, go out there and be ready to go.

2047
01:46:35,907 --> 01:46:40,067
Speaker 6: And yeah, we've had maybe a slightly shorter time this

2048
01:46:40,227 --> 01:46:42,667
Speaker 6: time in terms of getting here and in those in

2049
01:46:42,707 --> 01:46:45,747
Speaker 6: these conditions. But at the same time, it hasn't been

2050
01:46:45,747 --> 01:46:48,027
Speaker 6: too hot at the moment. I think it was sitting

2051
01:46:48,027 --> 01:46:52,307
Speaker 6: at early to mid thirties and it's kind of close

2052
01:46:52,347 --> 01:46:54,227
Speaker 6: to the end of the monsoon season, I believe, so

2053
01:46:54,267 --> 01:46:56,987
Speaker 6: it's not it's not crazy hot, but yeah, certainly warm

2054
01:46:56,987 --> 01:46:59,547
Speaker 6: with in New Zealand. I actually enjoy this, whether believe

2055
01:46:59,587 --> 01:47:01,587
Speaker 6: it or not. It's actually nice for the body.

2056
01:47:01,627 --> 01:47:02,187
Speaker 20: You feel a.

2057
01:47:02,107 --> 01:47:04,787
Speaker 6: Bit freer and you move a bit better, so it's

2058
01:47:04,867 --> 01:47:06,107
Speaker 6: actually quite quite nice.

2059
01:47:06,467 --> 01:47:08,667
Speaker 3: I think i'd probably pass out and I wouldn't move

2060
01:47:09,027 --> 01:47:12,427
Speaker 3: freely at all. That's on a gurney. AJS Patel joins

2061
01:47:12,467 --> 01:47:15,147
Speaker 3: us here on news Talk z B. I suppose you

2062
01:47:15,187 --> 01:47:17,227
Speaker 3: can keep in the sleeptor's minds if you just tear

2063
01:47:17,307 --> 01:47:19,107
Speaker 3: up a storm. If you're taking a pile of wickets,

2064
01:47:19,107 --> 01:47:20,507
Speaker 3: they're hardly going to say sit down.

2065
01:47:22,227 --> 01:47:25,147
Speaker 20: Yeah. I guess you know that comes with the territory.

2066
01:47:25,467 --> 01:47:27,387
Speaker 6: I guess when you're taking wickets, you're bowling lots of

2067
01:47:27,387 --> 01:47:30,547
Speaker 6: overs and you've got to be prepared for that, especially

2068
01:47:30,707 --> 01:47:34,387
Speaker 6: in these conditions. Sometimes things happen quickly, but sometimes you know,

2069
01:47:34,427 --> 01:47:36,547
Speaker 6: you just got to keep working a way and it

2070
01:47:36,587 --> 01:47:37,627
Speaker 6: may take a little while.

2071
01:47:37,707 --> 01:47:39,347
Speaker 20: So it's just a matter.

2072
01:47:39,187 --> 01:47:42,147
Speaker 6: Of, I guess, continuing to make sure you're putting your

2073
01:47:42,187 --> 01:47:46,027
Speaker 6: best foot forward and delivering your best deliveries regardless of.

2074
01:47:45,747 --> 01:47:47,027
Speaker 20: What's happening at the other end.

2075
01:47:47,067 --> 01:47:49,627
Speaker 6: And you know, Test Creger, it's a different challenge and

2076
01:47:49,667 --> 01:47:52,987
Speaker 6: it certainly challenges you both mentally and physically, and so

2077
01:47:53,267 --> 01:47:56,267
Speaker 6: it's you know, that's partly why we enjoy it is

2078
01:47:56,587 --> 01:48:00,387
Speaker 6: kind of pushing yourself, I guess, beyond limits that you

2079
01:48:00,467 --> 01:48:02,187
Speaker 6: sometimes expect yourself to go to.

2080
01:48:02,867 --> 01:48:05,747
Speaker 3: It's been a few years since you tore up the world.

2081
01:48:05,907 --> 01:48:07,987
Speaker 3: You're going to go back to my kiddie, back to

2082
01:48:08,107 --> 01:48:11,747
Speaker 3: Mumbai roughly the same time of year. If they don't

2083
01:48:11,787 --> 01:48:14,387
Speaker 3: pick you for that game, how dirty will you be? Ajas?

2084
01:48:14,427 --> 01:48:17,547
Speaker 3: Because you know, teen records doesn't come along every day,

2085
01:48:17,587 --> 01:48:19,787
Speaker 3: does it. That was just an exceptional time for New

2086
01:48:19,867 --> 01:48:22,307
Speaker 3: Zealand cricket. So you're dribbling over that one, are you.

2087
01:48:23,347 --> 01:48:25,227
Speaker 20: Yeah, it was a special occasion obviously.

2088
01:48:26,267 --> 01:48:29,227
Speaker 6: I think the biggest thing for me was playing I

2089
01:48:29,267 --> 01:48:32,507
Speaker 6: guess at my hometown. I'm playing in Mumbai where I

2090
01:48:32,547 --> 01:48:34,587
Speaker 6: was born brought up to a certain degree and then

2091
01:48:34,987 --> 01:48:36,987
Speaker 6: obviously before I shifted to New Zealand.

2092
01:48:37,027 --> 01:48:38,987
Speaker 20: So I guess that was really special for me.

2093
01:48:39,067 --> 01:48:41,947
Speaker 6: And returning back there, I think it's once again that

2094
01:48:41,947 --> 01:48:44,827
Speaker 6: that thing that kind of really draws me in as

2095
01:48:45,307 --> 01:48:47,227
Speaker 6: kind of being at home and playing in front of

2096
01:48:47,227 --> 01:48:50,387
Speaker 6: friends and family and you know, being on.

2097
01:48:50,347 --> 01:48:51,227
Speaker 20: The other side of the world.

2098
01:48:51,227 --> 01:48:53,187
Speaker 6: But it's also certainly a part of who I am

2099
01:48:53,267 --> 01:48:57,667
Speaker 6: and I guess the fabric of me, you know, being

2100
01:48:57,667 --> 01:48:59,707
Speaker 6: Indian born and from Mumbai.

2101
01:48:59,267 --> 01:49:01,227
Speaker 20: So it's always going to be a special place.

2102
01:49:01,267 --> 01:49:03,427
Speaker 6: I guess it's going to be more special after what

2103
01:49:03,507 --> 01:49:05,467
Speaker 6: has happened there certainly.

2104
01:49:06,507 --> 01:49:08,107
Speaker 20: But yeah, I guess it's.

2105
01:49:08,027 --> 01:49:10,547
Speaker 6: Just be pretty cool to play them on Bay and

2106
01:49:10,587 --> 01:49:12,867
Speaker 6: I believe they have this it's going to be a

2107
01:49:12,867 --> 01:49:15,027
Speaker 6: special game because I believe it's something like their one

2108
01:49:15,147 --> 01:49:18,307
Speaker 6: hundred and fiftieth test at the One Kiddy, So yeah,

2109
01:49:18,307 --> 01:49:20,867
Speaker 6: it's a special milestone and an occasion for them as well.

2110
01:49:21,147 --> 01:49:24,187
Speaker 3: How do you think you're going to be accepted there?

2111
01:49:24,227 --> 01:49:26,427
Speaker 3: Are you going to be like just a tiny rock

2112
01:49:26,467 --> 01:49:28,227
Speaker 3: star when you get over there, because as you said,

2113
01:49:28,267 --> 01:49:32,147
Speaker 3: you're a hometown boy. You did something quite extraordinarily. Three players,

2114
01:49:32,227 --> 01:49:34,547
Speaker 3: including yourself, have done it in test history. Do you

2115
01:49:34,587 --> 01:49:36,907
Speaker 3: think you'll be fated by the masses over there, even

2116
01:49:36,907 --> 01:49:38,987
Speaker 3: though you're playing for the wrong team age As.

2117
01:49:40,627 --> 01:49:43,187
Speaker 6: To be fair, last time I was there, I guess

2118
01:49:43,227 --> 01:49:45,667
Speaker 6: when I was on the boundary, I was copping a

2119
01:49:45,707 --> 01:49:48,507
Speaker 6: bit to begin with, But then as I started getting

2120
01:49:48,507 --> 01:49:50,667
Speaker 6: closer and closer, they were almost egging me on to

2121
01:49:50,707 --> 01:49:54,227
Speaker 6: do it. So I guess that the crowd had turned

2122
01:49:54,227 --> 01:49:57,347
Speaker 6: in my favor. It'll be interesting to see how it

2123
01:49:57,427 --> 01:50:00,147
Speaker 6: kind of begins in the next one. We know that

2124
01:50:00,427 --> 01:50:03,787
Speaker 6: the crowd in India are very passionate about cricket, but

2125
01:50:03,947 --> 01:50:06,707
Speaker 6: also very passionate about Indian cricket, so I don't think

2126
01:50:06,747 --> 01:50:08,387
Speaker 6: that's going to change. But I think I might get

2127
01:50:08,427 --> 01:50:11,307
Speaker 6: a little bit more leeway seeing as you know, I'm

2128
01:50:11,507 --> 01:50:12,827
Speaker 6: kind of a hometown boy.

2129
01:50:13,747 --> 01:50:16,867
Speaker 3: What about the bats? He even worried about that at all.

2130
01:50:16,867 --> 01:50:18,667
Speaker 3: Have been swinging the widow around a wee bit, and

2131
01:50:18,707 --> 01:50:21,027
Speaker 3: it's just all about not all about tweaking. Surely you've

2132
01:50:21,067 --> 01:50:22,667
Speaker 3: got a job at the other end, right.

2133
01:50:22,707 --> 01:50:24,467
Speaker 20: Right, Yeah, one hundred percent.

2134
01:50:25,267 --> 01:50:27,667
Speaker 6: I guess, like I say, in these conditions, every run

2135
01:50:27,707 --> 01:50:29,427
Speaker 6: is valuable, and I've been putting a lot of work

2136
01:50:29,427 --> 01:50:32,707
Speaker 6: in over the winter, especially around the batting side of things,

2137
01:50:32,747 --> 01:50:35,227
Speaker 6: and I've been fortunate to work with a few coaches

2138
01:50:35,267 --> 01:50:38,867
Speaker 6: back home, and yeah, it's certainly been a continued work

2139
01:50:38,907 --> 01:50:42,067
Speaker 6: on and it's it's certainly something that I want to

2140
01:50:42,107 --> 01:50:44,387
Speaker 6: continue to grow in my game, because I know how

2141
01:50:44,427 --> 01:50:48,307
Speaker 6: big a contribution you can make, especially in test cricket,

2142
01:50:48,587 --> 01:50:50,907
Speaker 6: if you can, you know, get those extra runs at

2143
01:50:50,907 --> 01:50:53,827
Speaker 6: the lower, lower end of the order, it can certainly,

2144
01:50:53,987 --> 01:50:57,187
Speaker 6: you know, impact a game massively. So it is definitely

2145
01:50:57,227 --> 01:51:00,147
Speaker 6: an important part of the game. I certainly it's not something.

2146
01:50:59,867 --> 01:51:02,747
Speaker 20: That you know, we neglect. I guess it's.

2147
01:51:02,627 --> 01:51:05,467
Speaker 6: Something that we continue to grow and work on and hopefully,

2148
01:51:05,907 --> 01:51:08,187
Speaker 6: you know, pretty nice to kind of, you know, put

2149
01:51:08,227 --> 01:51:10,267
Speaker 6: some decent performances on the board from.

2150
01:51:10,107 --> 01:51:12,307
Speaker 20: That aspect as well, which would be quite special.

2151
01:51:12,747 --> 01:51:16,507
Speaker 3: When that first test gets underwey up against Afghanistan. I'm

2152
01:51:16,547 --> 01:51:18,707
Speaker 3: presuming you're going to be picked because they've put you

2153
01:51:18,787 --> 01:51:21,227
Speaker 3: up for media, so it makes sense to me that

2154
01:51:21,267 --> 01:51:23,707
Speaker 3: you will. This is a team not to be taken lightly.

2155
01:51:23,747 --> 01:51:25,547
Speaker 3: What do you know about them as a test nation?

2156
01:51:25,707 --> 01:51:28,707
Speaker 3: What do you fear? What do you respect a jazz.

2157
01:51:28,907 --> 01:51:33,987
Speaker 6: Well, I guess the unfamiliarity is always a difficult one, especially,

2158
01:51:34,027 --> 01:51:37,147
Speaker 6: I guess in international cricket generally, when you play an opposition,

2159
01:51:37,187 --> 01:51:40,107
Speaker 6: you've got a lot more information around their style of

2160
01:51:40,147 --> 01:51:42,507
Speaker 6: play and what they're going to bring. And I suppose

2161
01:51:42,907 --> 01:51:45,547
Speaker 6: the fact that they're still pretty young in terms of

2162
01:51:45,547 --> 01:51:49,827
Speaker 6: the Test playing nation, there's a lot to learn about them,

2163
01:51:49,827 --> 01:51:52,627
Speaker 6: and I guess for us as players where we're going

2164
01:51:52,667 --> 01:51:54,707
Speaker 6: to have to constantly be thinking on our feet and

2165
01:51:54,987 --> 01:51:56,507
Speaker 6: reacting to what we see.

2166
01:51:56,307 --> 01:51:57,427
Speaker 20: Out on the ground.

2167
01:51:57,507 --> 01:52:01,867
Speaker 6: And they've got immense talent and their passion for cricket,

2168
01:52:01,947 --> 01:52:06,827
Speaker 6: as we know, is unbelievable, and so what they've achieved

2169
01:52:06,827 --> 01:52:09,987
Speaker 6: and I guess the last eight to ten years in

2170
01:52:10,067 --> 01:52:13,387
Speaker 6: terms of a cricketing nation, has been pretty phenomenal. So

2171
01:52:13,667 --> 01:52:16,067
Speaker 6: there's certainly not a team to take lightly that. They've

2172
01:52:16,107 --> 01:52:18,227
Speaker 6: got a lot of talent in that group and a

2173
01:52:18,267 --> 01:52:21,267
Speaker 6: lot of guys who do have exposure of playing cricket

2174
01:52:21,307 --> 01:52:25,987
Speaker 6: around the world. So it will be challenging, especially I

2175
01:52:25,987 --> 01:52:28,427
Speaker 6: guess in these conditions, and we've just got to make

2176
01:52:28,467 --> 01:52:31,587
Speaker 6: sure that, you know, we treat them with the respect

2177
01:52:31,627 --> 01:52:34,347
Speaker 6: that they deserve and go out there and I guess

2178
01:52:34,387 --> 01:52:36,187
Speaker 6: you know, put our best foot forward and make sure

2179
01:52:36,227 --> 01:52:37,387
Speaker 6: that we really turn up.

2180
01:52:37,707 --> 01:52:40,667
Speaker 3: Well and keatie when the toss bowl. That's the idea,

2181
01:52:40,787 --> 01:52:43,467
Speaker 3: isn't it. Maybe a return to the good old days ages.

2182
01:52:43,947 --> 01:52:46,187
Speaker 3: Thanks for joining us, mate, great to have you back

2183
01:52:46,267 --> 01:52:49,827
Speaker 3: on board again. The enthusiasm is infectious and I'm really

2184
01:52:49,827 --> 01:52:52,907
Speaker 3: looking forward to wasting away so many evenings over the

2185
01:52:52,947 --> 01:52:55,787
Speaker 3: next nine Test match as well the last three at

2186
01:52:55,787 --> 01:52:59,347
Speaker 3: home Nate and the Subcontinent. What an evening's entertainment. Thanks

2187
01:52:59,387 --> 01:53:01,067
Speaker 3: for that and thanks for your time age as you

2188
01:53:01,107 --> 01:53:02,947
Speaker 3: go well cheers Darcy.

2189
01:53:03,027 --> 01:53:05,027
Speaker 20: I hope you enjoy the viewing mate. We'll try and

2190
01:53:05,467 --> 01:53:06,707
Speaker 20: give you someth entertainment.

2191
01:53:07,307 --> 01:53:10,747
Speaker 3: Please, thank you. That's what we want, AJZ. But tell

2192
01:53:10,947 --> 01:53:14,027
Speaker 3: Superhero from back in the day our three zips so

2193
01:53:14,147 --> 01:53:17,467
Speaker 3: far still sorry Mexico New Zealand seventy eight minutes gone

2194
01:53:17,587 --> 01:53:20,907
Speaker 3: in that fixture coming up next, we're talking football. The

2195
01:53:20,987 --> 01:53:25,627
Speaker 3: NFL has started Ben Miller to join us on weekend Sport.

2196
01:53:25,707 --> 01:53:28,147
Speaker 2: The Tough Questions off the Turf.

2197
01:53:28,267 --> 01:53:32,587
Speaker 1: Weekend Sport with GJ gun Homes, New Zealand's most trusted

2198
01:53:32,587 --> 01:53:33,947
Speaker 1: home builder, US talk.

2199
01:53:33,827 --> 01:53:36,827
Speaker 3: ZI B to forty three coming to the end of

2200
01:53:36,827 --> 01:53:42,227
Speaker 3: the road in weekend sport. We're now going toward the gridiron.

2201
01:53:42,347 --> 01:53:45,427
Speaker 3: That's where the NFL has played. It's back for another

2202
01:53:45,467 --> 01:53:50,667
Speaker 3: big seasons. First four your bar and make match it happened,

2203
01:53:50,707 --> 01:53:51,147
Speaker 3: throwing in.

2204
01:53:51,267 --> 01:53:53,307
Speaker 8: Time, wait to be done?

2205
01:53:53,707 --> 01:54:02,507
Speaker 3: Yes, touchdown, I say, runners, cold head out of bounds.

2206
01:54:03,307 --> 01:54:08,867
Speaker 3: It's an eaty three pas the Deniso City Life two

2207
01:54:09,187 --> 01:54:11,747
Speaker 3: forty three. It's first out game Kansas City with the

2208
01:54:11,827 --> 01:54:14,867
Speaker 3: victory there and now we got to oh mate Bean Mella,

2209
01:54:15,427 --> 01:54:18,067
Speaker 3: A big hello to you, sir. Out of the USA,

2210
01:54:18,267 --> 01:54:22,347
Speaker 3: out of Fox Sport, Uisa. He's the man who runs it,

2211
01:54:23,307 --> 01:54:25,067
Speaker 3: do you or not? And you get a hell are you?

2212
01:54:25,867 --> 01:54:26,147
Speaker 2: Hey?

2213
01:54:26,427 --> 01:54:28,467
Speaker 8: Hey, Darcy, I've been there long enough. I should run

2214
01:54:28,507 --> 01:54:30,427
Speaker 8: that place. I've been there since the beginning, so they

2215
01:54:30,427 --> 01:54:32,267
Speaker 8: should hire you know, I should pay me more money.

2216
01:54:32,267 --> 01:54:33,707
Speaker 8: But it's great to be on with it, Darcy. I

2217
01:54:33,747 --> 01:54:34,787
Speaker 8: always look forward to it.

2218
01:54:35,027 --> 01:54:37,747
Speaker 3: And it's the start of the season to be jolly

2219
01:54:37,827 --> 01:54:40,227
Speaker 3: because this is it for American sports fans. And I mean,

2220
01:54:40,307 --> 01:54:42,907
Speaker 3: you had your Olympic games, you got well catch blind

2221
01:54:43,067 --> 01:54:45,987
Speaker 3: blah blah. This is what everybody looks forward to. This

2222
01:54:46,067 --> 01:54:49,267
Speaker 3: is it for American sport. What a way to start

2223
01:54:49,307 --> 01:54:49,707
Speaker 3: the season.

2224
01:54:49,747 --> 01:54:53,387
Speaker 8: Huh yeah, Hey, Darcy, this is the one sport that

2225
01:54:53,547 --> 01:54:57,787
Speaker 8: unites everybody. It's not regimented, and everyone's into the NFL here,

2226
01:54:57,827 --> 01:55:00,507
Speaker 8: so we we are fired up. It's been a soft

2227
01:55:00,587 --> 01:55:02,747
Speaker 8: launch so far. They've been a couple of games played.

2228
01:55:02,747 --> 01:55:07,107
Speaker 8: We've already had one dramatic finish between the Chiefs, the

2229
01:55:07,307 --> 01:55:11,787
Speaker 8: defending champions, and the Baltimore Ravens. The receiver, the tight

2230
01:55:11,867 --> 01:55:14,387
Speaker 8: end for the Ravens, couldn't get his feet in bounds.

2231
01:55:14,427 --> 01:55:17,067
Speaker 8: He had the feet were just out of bounds in

2232
01:55:17,147 --> 01:55:20,227
Speaker 8: the in line, and so Baltimore lost that game to

2233
01:55:20,307 --> 01:55:23,107
Speaker 8: Kansas City. And we've had our first injury, our first

2234
01:55:23,107 --> 01:55:25,867
Speaker 8: big injury, only two games end of the year, Darcy.

2235
01:55:25,947 --> 01:55:28,467
Speaker 8: The Green Bay Packers lost to the Eagles a game

2236
01:55:28,547 --> 01:55:33,147
Speaker 8: played in Brazil, amongst some controversy there in Brazil, and

2237
01:55:33,267 --> 01:55:36,187
Speaker 8: the quarterback for the Packers, just before the end of

2238
01:55:36,187 --> 01:55:40,147
Speaker 8: the game, Jordan Love, he injured his knee and he's

2239
01:55:40,187 --> 01:55:42,587
Speaker 8: going to be out for the next at least three weeks,

2240
01:55:42,627 --> 01:55:45,907
Speaker 8: probably longer than that. So the Packers, the Green Bay

2241
01:55:45,907 --> 01:55:48,827
Speaker 8: Packers are in a tough spot. And so that's how

2242
01:55:48,827 --> 01:55:51,867
Speaker 8: it begins. Two games in one dramatic finish and one

2243
01:55:51,907 --> 01:55:52,547
Speaker 8: big injury.

2244
01:55:52,947 --> 01:55:57,907
Speaker 3: Let's talk favorites right across both divisions, the AFC and

2245
01:55:57,987 --> 01:56:02,547
Speaker 3: the NFC. Where is that sit? You got a defending

2246
01:56:02,667 --> 01:56:05,027
Speaker 3: champion and I'm gonna start calling them, much to the

2247
01:56:05,147 --> 01:56:08,267
Speaker 3: chagrin of everybody, will as well. Are they a now

2248
01:56:08,467 --> 01:56:12,427
Speaker 3: going to be cold? The Kansas City Swifts?

2249
01:56:13,507 --> 01:56:16,387
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, pretty much. Right, it's all about Taylor Swift's

2250
01:56:16,827 --> 01:56:18,947
Speaker 8: she's all over the marketing. Well, you got to start

2251
01:56:18,947 --> 01:56:21,227
Speaker 8: with that. We've not seen the Super Bowl has been

2252
01:56:21,267 --> 01:56:25,027
Speaker 8: around Darcy since the nineteen sixties and we've never seen

2253
01:56:25,067 --> 01:56:28,107
Speaker 8: a team win three in a row. And the Chiefs

2254
01:56:28,147 --> 01:56:31,867
Speaker 8: are the favorite with Patrick Mahomes and Taylor Swift to

2255
01:56:31,947 --> 01:56:35,907
Speaker 8: win their third straight championship this year. So we'll start

2256
01:56:35,907 --> 01:56:40,387
Speaker 8: with that. Kansas City the boring pick because you like

2257
01:56:40,467 --> 01:56:43,107
Speaker 8: to pick somebody new, but they're the top team. They've

2258
01:56:43,147 --> 01:56:46,467
Speaker 8: improved from last year even though they won the championship

2259
01:56:46,547 --> 01:56:49,347
Speaker 8: last year. And then on the other side of the conference,

2260
01:56:49,347 --> 01:56:51,267
Speaker 8: you've got the forty nine ers who were in the

2261
01:56:51,307 --> 01:56:55,667
Speaker 8: Super Bowl last year, the Detroit Lions. The Rams are

2262
01:56:55,707 --> 01:56:58,667
Speaker 8: also there. They lost Aaron Donald. They're a great defensive player.

2263
01:56:58,827 --> 01:57:00,827
Speaker 8: But as far as the Chiefs and Taylor Swift and

2264
01:57:00,827 --> 01:57:04,107
Speaker 8: Patrick Mahomes and all that. That's where the competition is.

2265
01:57:04,147 --> 01:57:07,547
Speaker 8: In that side of the NFL bracket. You've got teams

2266
01:57:07,547 --> 01:57:10,307
Speaker 8: like Baltimore, who took Kansas City down to the very

2267
01:57:10,427 --> 01:57:13,067
Speaker 8: end there in the mix. And then you look around

2268
01:57:13,147 --> 01:57:15,267
Speaker 8: some of the other teams that are pretty good this year.

2269
01:57:15,267 --> 01:57:19,867
Speaker 8: Cincinnati's got their quarterback back, Joe Burrow. He's there. The

2270
01:57:19,907 --> 01:57:23,267
Speaker 8: Houston Texans were a surprise team last year. They have

2271
01:57:23,307 --> 01:57:25,827
Speaker 8: a good young quarterback named CJ. Stroud, so they're getting

2272
01:57:25,867 --> 01:57:28,147
Speaker 8: a lot of attention, a lot of hype for Houston.

2273
01:57:29,027 --> 01:57:31,907
Speaker 8: So there's about five or six teams that are all

2274
01:57:32,067 --> 01:57:35,147
Speaker 8: the very top in the NFL, and then you've got

2275
01:57:35,147 --> 01:57:40,107
Speaker 8: a bunch of middle middleweight contenders I call the mid contenders.

2276
01:57:40,667 --> 01:57:42,947
Speaker 8: Jim Harbaugh, who was a good coach back in the

2277
01:57:42,987 --> 01:57:44,947
Speaker 8: day for the forty nine ers, he's back with the

2278
01:57:45,027 --> 01:57:48,787
Speaker 8: Chargers in LA where I'm based, and so he's back

2279
01:57:48,867 --> 01:57:51,347
Speaker 8: Darcy and his brother's coaching the Ravens, so they're back

2280
01:57:51,387 --> 01:57:54,187
Speaker 8: together in the NFL. So there's some of the teams

2281
01:57:54,187 --> 01:57:54,987
Speaker 8: to keep an eye on.

2282
01:57:55,387 --> 01:57:58,627
Speaker 3: Aside the teams, Fan Malow, what about players to look

2283
01:57:58,667 --> 01:58:01,547
Speaker 3: out for players that have popped through that maybe made

2284
01:58:02,107 --> 01:58:05,107
Speaker 3: a bit of a got a bit of traction last season,

2285
01:58:05,107 --> 01:58:08,227
Speaker 3: that are looking forward to doing something more as freshman,

2286
01:58:08,347 --> 01:58:10,427
Speaker 3: or some rookies who do you like to look off?

2287
01:58:11,867 --> 01:58:14,947
Speaker 8: Yeah, so the shiny new object, Darcy. There's a couple

2288
01:58:14,947 --> 01:58:17,747
Speaker 8: of new quarterbacks that have everyone yappened though. The big

2289
01:58:17,747 --> 01:58:20,067
Speaker 8: one is the Chicago Bears quarterback. They had the number

2290
01:58:20,107 --> 01:58:24,867
Speaker 8: one pick, Caleb Williams, who was a decorated college football player,

2291
01:58:25,027 --> 01:58:27,467
Speaker 8: and the Chicago Bears getting a lot of attention. They're

2292
01:58:27,467 --> 01:58:31,387
Speaker 8: actually a four point favorite over the Tennessee football team

2293
01:58:31,427 --> 01:58:34,507
Speaker 8: they play tomorrow. Here's an amazing factory, Derrick, Darcy. This

2294
01:58:34,587 --> 01:58:37,187
Speaker 8: is to surprise you. So if you go back in

2295
01:58:37,227 --> 01:58:39,827
Speaker 8: the history of the NFL, Caleb Williams has a rookie

2296
01:58:40,307 --> 01:58:43,627
Speaker 8: favored by four points in his debut. There has not

2297
01:58:43,787 --> 01:58:46,987
Speaker 8: been a quarterback favored by that many or more points

2298
01:58:47,027 --> 01:58:51,187
Speaker 8: since Terry Bradshaw over fifty years ago in nineteen seventy

2299
01:58:51,227 --> 01:58:54,267
Speaker 8: when he made his debut for the Pittsburgh Steelers, who

2300
01:58:54,307 --> 01:58:57,267
Speaker 8: had had a great defense at that time. So is

2301
01:58:57,307 --> 01:58:59,027
Speaker 8: a lot of hype around Caleb Williams, who is the

2302
01:58:59,107 --> 01:59:02,867
Speaker 8: number one pick, but There's several other rookie quarterbacks, including

2303
01:59:02,947 --> 01:59:05,787
Speaker 8: Jaden Daniels, who was also a guy that won a Heisman,

2304
01:59:05,987 --> 01:59:10,507
Speaker 8: the top warden college football. He's with the Washington football

2305
01:59:10,547 --> 01:59:16,027
Speaker 8: team now near the Capitol here of America at Washington DC,

2306
01:59:16,787 --> 01:59:18,907
Speaker 8: and he's getting a lot of attention. And I also

2307
01:59:18,947 --> 01:59:22,747
Speaker 8: mentioned CJ. Stroud. He's a sophomore second year player for

2308
01:59:22,947 --> 01:59:25,307
Speaker 8: the Houston Texans and he had one of the great

2309
01:59:25,387 --> 01:59:30,187
Speaker 8: rookie seasons. This guy was absolutely monster mashing for Tennessee

2310
01:59:30,267 --> 01:59:33,747
Speaker 8: last year, or for the Texans rather Houston Texans, and

2311
01:59:33,787 --> 01:59:37,027
Speaker 8: so he's back this year and he's getting a lot

2312
01:59:37,027 --> 01:59:39,667
Speaker 8: of attention. So those are the three young quarterbacks that

2313
01:59:39,707 --> 01:59:42,627
Speaker 8: are getting the most buzz as we head into the year.

2314
01:59:42,667 --> 01:59:45,227
Speaker 8: And there's also some quarterbacks that change teams like Kirk

2315
01:59:45,267 --> 01:59:48,187
Speaker 8: Cousins who had been a very good player when he

2316
01:59:48,267 --> 01:59:52,107
Speaker 8: was playing in Minnesota, a good regular season player. He's

2317
01:59:52,147 --> 01:59:55,627
Speaker 8: now on the Atlanta Falcons, so they're expected to be

2318
01:59:55,627 --> 02:00:00,187
Speaker 8: better this year. And the Pittsburgh Steelers have two new quarterbacks.

2319
02:00:00,227 --> 02:00:03,267
Speaker 8: They got Russell Wilson, who was supposed to start from

2320
02:00:03,307 --> 02:00:06,267
Speaker 8: the old Seattle Seahawks and Denver Broncos in the swit

2321
02:00:06,347 --> 02:00:10,547
Speaker 8: Super Bowl and Russell Wilson's injured, so he's not gonna start.

2322
02:00:10,627 --> 02:00:14,947
Speaker 8: And Justin Fields, who was with the Chicago Bears last year,

2323
02:00:14,987 --> 02:00:17,587
Speaker 8: he's gonna start now for the Atlanta or for the

2324
02:00:17,907 --> 02:00:21,827
Speaker 8: Steelers against the Falcons in that game that'll be played tomorrow.

2325
02:00:21,907 --> 02:00:25,107
Speaker 8: So there's a lot of musical chairs that happen every year.

2326
02:00:25,107 --> 02:00:27,307
Speaker 8: There's a bunch of coaches that have changed as well,

2327
02:00:27,387 --> 02:00:30,947
Speaker 8: So it's it's a new beginning in the NFL. And

2328
02:00:31,387 --> 02:00:33,227
Speaker 8: we're excited because just to go all the way till

2329
02:00:33,307 --> 02:00:35,827
Speaker 8: mid February when they played the Super Bowl.

2330
02:00:36,027 --> 02:00:39,027
Speaker 3: Years ago when we first started broadcasting together, I mean

2331
02:00:39,387 --> 02:00:42,747
Speaker 3: years ago. We're talking decades now. I think I said

2332
02:00:42,747 --> 02:00:44,827
Speaker 3: I wanted to follow a team, and you said, you

2333
02:00:44,907 --> 02:00:47,547
Speaker 3: need to follow this train, Rake, and you gave me

2334
02:00:47,627 --> 02:00:50,387
Speaker 3: the Jacksonville Jaguars. Have they got any chance?

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Speaker 8: Well, they're not as bad as they were back then. Yeah,

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Speaker 8: that was a long time ago, Darcy.

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Speaker 11: They were.

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Speaker 8: They were an embarrassment. They were a laughing stock, just

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Speaker 8: an absolute outhouse of a football team. So they were embarrassing.

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Speaker 8: But they're now. They were supposed to be good last

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Speaker 8: year year and they disappointed this year. They're kind of

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Speaker 8: a middleweight contender. They have talent. They paid their quarterback,

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Speaker 8: mister Lawrence, a ton of money and he did not

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Speaker 8: have a great year list. It's kind of bizarre they

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Speaker 8: gave him so much money considering that he did not

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Speaker 8: live up.

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Speaker 3: To the hype.

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Speaker 8: But they're not the worst, and they're not at the top.

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Speaker 8: They're somewhere in the middle. But at least that's better

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Speaker 8: than they were when we started talking all those years back, Darcy.

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Speaker 8: And they had to wear a bag over your head

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Speaker 8: because they were so bad.

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Speaker 3: And I knew that, and I get don following them.

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Speaker 3: They're the great Blake Botel's era wasn't very good, but

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Speaker 3: at least I won some games under him, right being

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Speaker 3: great to Katjan, we're gonna do it again, so mate,

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Speaker 3: you look after yourself. Go well, and next time we talk,

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Speaker 3: you can give me a schoolcard on the Jockocracy that's

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Speaker 3: still running. Thanks for you time, my friend, all right, thanks, Darcy, No,

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Speaker 3: I think you love my friend being Melarine has been

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Speaker 3: a long time. Great to be home with the game, Dorothy.

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Speaker 3: That noise I've always got in my head and r

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Speaker 3: for already. This is the end of the program. But wait,

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Speaker 3: there's more coming up next on News Talks.

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Speaker 1: Heb the scoot from the track Fields and the Court

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Speaker 1: on your homeless Sport weekends.

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Speaker 3: For it looks like it's signed to go home and

2368
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Speaker 3: let Jason Pine out of the cellar. He can come

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Speaker 3: back next week and do this show. And I thank

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Speaker 3: him so much for disappearing conveniently so I get to

2371
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Speaker 3: have all the fun of the circuits for six hours

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Speaker 3: on weekend Sport. It has been my absolute pleasure. Annie McDonald,

2373
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Speaker 3: thanks for holding my hand and wiping the dribble off

2374
02:02:49,267 --> 02:02:52,347
Speaker 3: my chin throughout the last couple of days. I hope

2375
02:02:52,347 --> 02:02:55,747
Speaker 3: you've enjoyed it. I've enjoyed it so much, the talking,

2376
02:02:56,107 --> 02:02:59,547
Speaker 3: the interviews, everything about it, and I think it's worth

2377
02:02:59,627 --> 02:03:03,747
Speaker 3: mentioning as well. Yesterday was two years since we lost

2378
02:03:04,107 --> 02:03:06,947
Speaker 3: old mates and one of my favorites on the radio,

2379
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Speaker 3: Willie Lowse. Our thoughts going out to Willie's family. We

2380
02:03:11,827 --> 02:03:15,227
Speaker 3: remember you, big man for so many call reasons. You're

2381
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Speaker 3: sorely missed in the seventh Circuit, the broadcasting circuit down

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Speaker 3: at Les Mills. Not that ever went down there and

2383
02:03:20,987 --> 02:03:24,867
Speaker 3: worked out, But Willie los our thoughts are still with you,

2384
02:03:24,947 --> 02:03:27,627
Speaker 3: my friend. Right time to go, and we're gonna go

2385
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Speaker 3: out with a track that this is a rip snorter.

2386
02:03:30,547 --> 02:03:35,867
Speaker 3: I think tough. Lana del Ray, Oh yeah, I like

2387
02:03:35,907 --> 02:03:41,667
Speaker 3: it anyway, look after yourself, huh. You have a wonderful

2388
02:03:41,947 --> 02:03:47,627
Speaker 3: Sunday and Sunday evening test cracket on from tomorrow, and

2389
02:03:47,667 --> 02:03:51,947
Speaker 3: I'll be hanging around Formula one fans for next week

2390
02:03:52,067 --> 02:03:55,907
Speaker 3: when they go to Azerbaijan. I believe the deadline for

2391
02:03:56,027 --> 02:04:01,027
Speaker 3: the decision around Liam Lawson and his future is next weekend.

2392
02:04:01,027 --> 02:04:03,307
Speaker 3: Will it be an out, I don't know. We will

2393
02:04:03,347 --> 02:04:08,867
Speaker 3: find out a wonderful Sunday, Tim Beverage up next here

2394
02:04:09,427 --> 02:04:21,867
Speaker 3: on News Talks it be you'll comfort another, I'll show you.

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02:04:24,227 --> 02:04:24,627
Speaker 11: What I said.

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02:04:24,627 --> 02:04:25,707
Speaker 3: I'm gonna take you where I will.

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Speaker 10: Whatever.

2398
02:04:30,427 --> 02:04:31,427
Speaker 2: Whenever you read.

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Speaker 3: Colin, I'll give it back when I get it. All right.

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Speaker 2: That's a bit.

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Speaker 1: For more from Weekend Sport with Jason Fine. Listen live

2402
02:04:48,187 --> 02:04:51,467
Speaker 1: to News Talks ed B weekends from midday, or follow

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Speaker 1: the podcast on iHeartRadio.