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Speaker 1: Let's chat and sing along with Amy Shark. She's here

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Speaker 1: for her new album Sunday Sadness, which is out next month.

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Speaker 1: Her last two albums, by the way, we're number one

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Speaker 1: in Australia. She's an eight times Aria winner. She's performed

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Speaker 1: written songs with Travis Barker read Shere and Keith Urban

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Speaker 1: and Coldplay. She's also judge on Australian Idol. And she is, well,

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Speaker 1: it's lovely to meet.

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Speaker 2: You, hi, and nice to meet you too.

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Speaker 1: Haven't we been having the best time?

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Speaker 2: The best time?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, that's not true. I mean, you've got to

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Speaker 1: say that stuff now. But the story is, and I've

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Speaker 1: got to share the story. Waikawa Bay. My grandparents, years

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Speaker 1: and years and years ago, and this isn't the Marlborough

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Speaker 1: Sounds used to have a batch and we used to

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Speaker 1: go there as kids and it was the one of

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Speaker 1: two houses in Waikawa Bay. And so I'm telling Amy

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Speaker 1: about this story, boring at witless and we were talking

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Speaker 1: about the country and then she goes, well, my husband

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Speaker 1: Shane is from Wellington, and I go does he like Wellington?

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Speaker 1: She goes, no, he likes Nelson and the Marlborough Sounds.

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Speaker 1: And you carry on with the story because allone was

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Speaker 1: a man with a batch.

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Speaker 3: I as soon as you said Wakawa bay, I just

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Speaker 3: remember because we've caught a lot of snapper at the

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Speaker 3: at Shane's family's batch in the Mulborough Sounds, and that's

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Speaker 3: the sign that is behind all the shots because it's

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Speaker 3: on this little tree facing you know, the ocean, and

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Speaker 3: it's the same bay of every bay in the Sounds

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Speaker 3: where your husband's family owns a back.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's been in the family for like, you know, generations.

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Speaker 1: Has it really So that part of the story you

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Speaker 1: didn't tell me off here, So that's entirely possible that

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Speaker 1: that that's the second house in the bay next.

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Speaker 2: To my Not much, not too much has been done

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Speaker 3: Shane's dad's builder, so he's kind of he's kept the

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Speaker 3: bones of the place. But you know, like things have

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Speaker 3: come a long way, like toilets and showers and cookers

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Speaker 3: and stuff. So but it's still very batch like. It's

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Speaker 3: not bougie at all. It's like you're going you're going

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Speaker 3: out in the sticks and it's it's the best.

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Speaker 1: It's not bougie. So your success is interesting because when

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Speaker 1: I first looked you up yesterday in terms of you

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Speaker 1: being thirty eight years old, I thought, well, hold on,

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Speaker 1: where have you been? So you've been about the place,

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Speaker 1: working hard when you achieve what you've now achieved is

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Speaker 1: the journey and this ties into your job at Australian Idol.

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Speaker 1: Is the journey and the success that that brings worth it?

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Speaker 1: And do you revel in it now?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: One, I think I do it more so than anyone

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Speaker 3: who maybe had a bit more luck and success early on.

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Speaker 2: I think I like I revel in it more because

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Speaker 2: it's like it just took me so much.

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Speaker 3: Longer, and I know how hard I worked for it,

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Speaker 3: so it's I don't take it for granted, no, And

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Speaker 3: and everything's really exciting for me still because like you know,

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Speaker 3: I didn't get signed till I was like thirty and

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Speaker 3: everyone I feel like, I feel like I've done so much,

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Speaker 3: Like I really went hard. The second I got signed,

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Speaker 3: thing my whole life changed. I had some albums that

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Speaker 3: did really well, I got to do some awesome stuff,

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Speaker 3: and only just now am I starting to be like, ah,

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Speaker 3: this is great. I'm actually comfortable in doing things I

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Speaker 3: I want to make, and it's it's fantastic.

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Speaker 2: I still love making music. It doesn't feel like a job.

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Speaker 1: You know, what's the listen out of that? Then, in

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Speaker 1: the sense, if you have talent, you will get there,

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Speaker 1: or if you have talent, you might get there, or

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Speaker 1: you just don't know.

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Speaker 2: It's kind of got to be.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if you've ever heard of the word dama,

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Speaker 3: But if people find their dama, which is something that

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Speaker 3: that's when I think it'll happen. Like I think if

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Speaker 3: you do something and if you have the hard conversations

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Speaker 3: with yourself, like am I any good? Because that's what

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Speaker 3: people have to do, and not many people do. They

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Speaker 3: just want they just want what the outcomes of the job.

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Speaker 3: Whereas you know, if you're like, have that conversation, you're like, no,

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Speaker 3: I'm good. I know I'm good, and I love it

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Speaker 3: and I do it for free. And if you just

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Speaker 2: A higher possibility. It's just got to all line up

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Speaker 2: and be for all the right reasons.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So juxtapose that to Australian idol and this whole

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Speaker 1: reality television thing is just that I want, I want

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Speaker 1: to be famous pleased if I could, that'd be awesome.

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Speaker 1: Do you do you offer advice to these people or

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Speaker 1: is this just a brilliant outlet to instantly tradict yourself

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Speaker 1: to somewhere you want to be or what?

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Speaker 3: I think it's different now, and because you know, if

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Speaker 3: you asked me to be a part of this show

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Speaker 3: even five years ago, I would have been like, absolutely not.

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Speaker 3: I didn't. I never went on those shows. I never

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Speaker 3: could even fathom the thought of it. But now, music

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Speaker 3: is it was so inundated with artists and people who

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Speaker 3: I'm not knocking them, but it's like there's so much

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Speaker 3: talent now and there's so many creatives. So I see

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Speaker 3: it as a I've seen so many brilliant artists come

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Speaker 3: through that platform, and I think it's actually smart now

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Speaker 3: to set them aside. You know, anything you can do

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Speaker 3: to kind of cut through, you then have to tackle

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Speaker 3: it a really different way, which I've seen as be

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Speaker 3: idol to still have their integrity and be taken seriously

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Speaker 3: and it's just so different now, you know.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Travis Barker and working with him, tell me about him.

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Speaker 3: Just the most loveliest, is the easiest person is really

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Speaker 3: because he doesn't look like it.

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Speaker 2: Out of all the guys he was. I mean, Mark

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Speaker 3: So Mark was the first member of Blank one two

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Speaker 3: that I worked with, and that was just a trip

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Speaker 3: for me because they're my favorite band of all time,

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Speaker 3: you know, since I was like fourteen. So Travis he

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Speaker 3: heard what I did with Mark, and then one day

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Speaker 3: I was on Twitter and I had a message from

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Speaker 3: Travis saying, if you ever want some beats and if

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Speaker 3: I kept him in the back pocket for the next

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Speaker 3: album and honestly, I just sent him the song and

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Speaker 3: he was so accommodating. He you know, he sent a

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Speaker 3: couple of trap beats. I'm like's too trappy, sent a

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Speaker 1: A trap.

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Speaker 2: It wasn't it was not It was not easy.

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Speaker 3: It was like I said to my producer, maybe we

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Speaker 3: just make it work, you know, But he.

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Speaker 2: Was so accommodating.

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Speaker 3: He kept writing to me saying, hey, if I try this,

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Speaker 3: if this, if this is too you know, too trappy

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Speaker 3: and too rappy, and and it was done within like

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Speaker 3: two days, and he, you know, he was just so

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Speaker 3: this was before Kardashian World, so he had a bit

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Speaker 3: more time. But it was just epic and it was

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Speaker 3: so great with the video, and yeah, it was a trip.

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Speaker 1: The album that's out till next month. Quick preview? Any good?

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Speaker 2: Oh it's okay. Yeah, yeah, I'd give it a listen.

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Speaker 2: Give it a listen.

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Speaker 1: What is the song you're going to play for us

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Speaker 1: after the break from the album. It is very exciting,

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Speaker 1: and you've got your guitar, and God bless you because

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Speaker 1: we have so many artists who come in here and

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Speaker 1: just bring some accouterments and endless hangers on with instruments

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Speaker 1: and they expect us to plug it in in three

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Speaker 1: and a half minutes. You've brought your guitar and you

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Speaker 1: brought your voice.

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Speaker 2: Keep it simple, Keep it simple.

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Speaker 1: Do you want some feedback? Text has just come in.

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Speaker 1: I'm a big fan of who's already, and I haven't

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Speaker 1: even heard of sing Cheryl. I love you Cheryl, yep, exactly,

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Speaker 1: I love you too, Cheryl. Here's my next problem. I've

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Speaker 1: got to get you to sing. But the guitar. She

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Speaker 1: has a guitar. This is all being videoed, so go

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Speaker 1: to the website and have a look. That guitar, apart

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Speaker 1: from being beautiful, is made by Russell Crowe. So I said,

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Speaker 1: what a beautiful guitar? Is that a three quarters side?

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Speaker 1: She goes, yeah, Russell Crowe made me this one. I said,

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Speaker 1: what was that?

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Speaker 2: What I sound like?

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Speaker 5: No?

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Speaker 1: No, no, no, it was about It was a bad impersonation.

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Speaker 1: But you see, so Russell Crowe because the New Zealander.

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Speaker 1: Of course, don't let them tell you he's astraight. And

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Speaker 1: you realize his New Zealander.

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Speaker 2: We claim him like we claim Lord, we claim all

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Speaker 1: Does his family have a batch at Waikwa bay?

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Speaker 2: I don't know that much.

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Speaker 3: Who knows?

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Speaker 1: But what a beautiful guitar? Why would he make you

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Speaker 2: We've become really good friends, Like we played tennis.

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Speaker 3: I played tennis with him and his girlfriend and my

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Speaker 3: Shane and I and we I don't know how this

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Speaker 2: That's what I mean. You know, I was telling you

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Speaker 2: I get to do this cool stuff.

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Speaker 1: I'm saying it's, you know, literally for you, Russell rings

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Speaker 1: guitar for you, it's a silly job that I'm amazing.

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Speaker 2: It's crazy, but I'm very appreciative.

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Speaker 1: It's well, that's very good. We're appreciative of you being here.

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Speaker 1: So so so hit the Russell? Do you call it

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Speaker 1: the Russell?

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Speaker 2: Actually I do now thanks to you.

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Speaker 1: It's called the Russell, So hit the Russell? And what

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Speaker 1: are you playing?

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Speaker 3: By the way, it's called two friends and I haven't

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Speaker 2: You'll be brilli with thirty nine seconds.

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Speaker 1: I want you judge on Australian.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly what are you doing on Australia?

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Speaker 1: Do you buy someone out when it's no good?

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Speaker 5: Is that what you do?

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Speaker 4: No?

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Speaker 3: You just work, you navigate your nose and yeses, and

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Speaker 3: it's it's really hard.

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Speaker 1: Actually yeah. Well, well I'm going to be your Australian

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Speaker 1: New Zealand idol judge. Right, I'm not gonna look at

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Speaker 1: you ladies and gentlemen. Amy shock.

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Speaker 4: Mm just had a crazy flashback of a night where

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Speaker 4: you were saying words that we know weren't right, and

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Speaker 4: I feel like things never been the same between us.

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Speaker 2: Who gives it?

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Speaker 4: Damn we made our I like everyone who asked me

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Speaker 4: about that night.

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Speaker 6: And you try to play coo cuckoo, choo my baby.

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Speaker 6: Maybe we could find a nice place somewhere in the

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Speaker 6: middle of secrets and love.

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Speaker 4: Maybe there could be a little romance between friends who

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Speaker 4: are falling in love.

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Speaker 2: And maybe you could stay at my place.

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Speaker 4: No one's ever a.

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Speaker 6: Home, man, I'll lock up the gate.

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Speaker 4: I wish we could tell the whole world two friends

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Speaker 4: one of those days. Would have bitch, just to think,

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Speaker 4: I gotta wake up and do it all again, and

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Speaker 4: So let's try to.

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Speaker 5: Play it cool.

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Speaker 6: Cuckoo could choo my baby.

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Speaker 4: Maybe we could find a nice place somewhere in the

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Speaker 2: Between friends who.

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Speaker 4: Are falling in love. Maybe you could stay in my

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Speaker 5: Hello, Hello, Sarah told Becky, and Becky told Tigan and

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Speaker 5: Tea and told SE's friends with Crystal and Crystal told Sally,

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Speaker 5: Sally loves Daniel, and Daniel told Katie and Katie Flipping

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Speaker 5: Sally loves Daniel. Daniel told Katie Katy hates me.

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Speaker 4: Maybe we could find a nice place so we're in

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Speaker 4: the middle of secrets and love.

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Speaker 2: Maybe there could be a little.

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Speaker 4: Romance between friends who were falling in love.

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Speaker 2: Maybe you could stay in my place. No one's a

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Speaker 2: a hale man, I'll lock up again. I wish we could.

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Speaker 4: Tell the whole world two friends who were falling and

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Speaker 1: Whoa go.

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Speaker 4: To friends who are falling falling in love.

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Speaker 1: You can come back next week.

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Speaker 2: Thank you very much.

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Speaker 1: This rounds right through it now. Lovely to meet you

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Speaker 1: and talk with you. Go well, good luck with the

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Speaker 1: old and good luck with the tour later on this year.

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Speaker 1: Nice to see.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much, Thanks for the chat. Are you mean?

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Speaker 5: Shack?

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