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Speaker 1: Darcy Watergrave sports talk coasters with me right now?

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Speaker 2: Hey, Dars, do we talk about sport today as opposed

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Speaker 2: to shoes, wonderpants everything else.

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Speaker 1: Actually, I'll tell you what I'm hi here we go.

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Speaker 1: I am fascinated by this Nathan our Forridge. What do

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Speaker 1: we know about him?

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Speaker 2: Well, he's successful, he's an Australian. He was with the

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Speaker 2: team last time around when they won or defended the

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Speaker 2: America's Cup, so he knows what's going on. He understands

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Speaker 2: the cut of the jib of team news Illan, so

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Speaker 2: that this is good. We've got Chris Draper. He's been

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Speaker 2: a bit of a we you call him, and every man,

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Speaker 2: a bit of a journey man, a bit of a

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Speaker 2: guy who's been. He's been. He's sailed with a number

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Speaker 2: of teams in the America's Cups. Who knows it. But

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Speaker 2: he's an Englishman, right, So the big thing here and

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Speaker 2: this is in my humble opinion, and people might shout

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Speaker 2: that down I thought, and the deed of gift is

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Speaker 2: not out or not the deed of gift. It might

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Speaker 2: go back to that. But the rules of engagement, the

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Speaker 2: protocol has not been set yet. It's coming out soon.

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Speaker 2: Around eligibility. Now, I believe that back for a while

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Speaker 2: there they were like, no, we want New Zealanders running

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Speaker 2: for Team New Zealand. You allowed one or two other

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Speaker 2: passport members, but otherwise it needs to be a New

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Speaker 2: Zealand representative team. Now that hasn't been settled yet between

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Speaker 2: the defender and the challenger, and that's probably coming out

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Speaker 2: soon where the actual event's going to be held. So

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Speaker 2: I think they looked at in bitter Eario Leny and

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Speaker 2: they're like, we've got to do something about this. Otherwise

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Speaker 2: he's not going to sale. He's gone anyway now because

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Speaker 2: it's no one there my big question and we'll be

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Speaker 2: joined by Peter Lester for America's Cup sailor Pundit a

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Speaker 2: wonderful guy and knows the sport inside out around eligibility.

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Speaker 2: Because to me, this says to the sailing community of

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Speaker 2: New Zealand, there's no one else could enough. I don't

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Speaker 2: like that. It's hard enough that the Cup's not being

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Speaker 2: sailed for. It's difficult enough.

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Speaker 1: Saying or are they just saying there is nobody in

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Speaker 1: New Zealand as good as Nathan Outeriche.

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Speaker 2: Well, this is the question, though, do you go for

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Speaker 2: the absolute pure talent to win, or do you look

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Speaker 2: at developing fresh talent coming through. Is there somebody who

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Speaker 2: sails that can be up to speed. We're not talking

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Speaker 2: on twenty twenty seven, right and Burling young man, he

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Speaker 2: came into the trade. He's done pretty well. I just

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Speaker 2: from a New Zealand point of view that we know

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Speaker 2: that here we go again, the ships sailed. When it

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Speaker 2: comes to the ability of the team to call themselves

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Speaker 2: a New Zealand team, was it not right?

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Speaker 1: Is this the first time we've had a not New

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Speaker 1: Zealand or as the skipper?

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Speaker 2: No, because Glenn Ashby was involved a couple of years

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Speaker 2: ago and Nathan Outwidge was kind of cohelming last time around,

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Speaker 2: so we have had involvement. But it was quite strong.

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Speaker 2: And you remember this right, going hey, we need to

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Speaker 2: look at what they didn't want was a Berturelli rolling

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Speaker 2: over from the other side of the world and handpicking

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Speaker 2: all of our best sailors, running away and winning the cup,

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Speaker 2: which has happened before. So you understand that it's being

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Speaker 2: defended here and people feel a little adrift. I'm going

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Speaker 2: to stop this. That makes it difficult when suddenly the

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Speaker 2: best is surely, surely with the talent that we've got

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Speaker 2: here in New Zealand, coming through all the difference.

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Speaker 1: I've got to tell you something.

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Speaker 2: You don't care.

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Speaker 1: It's not our team. It's called Team New Zealand. But

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Speaker 1: it's Grant's team. It's adults team.

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Speaker 2: So it's Team Grant.

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Speaker 1: It's Team Grant. And so there is no it's not

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Speaker 1: it's not incumbent on him to pick a key. He

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Speaker 1: could pick whoever he wants is his team.

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Speaker 2: And they talked about that, people like us turning around

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Speaker 2: holding into account's such a carry. And I'm not crying

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Speaker 2: last night here we are. We had such good talk

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Speaker 2: about this yesterday, about the thirtieth anniversary of the amazing

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Speaker 2: America's Cup victory. And here we are the next day

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Speaker 2: and it's a multinational side.

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Speaker 1: That's right. I look forward to it.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for telling me off here, that's right.

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