1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:03,000 Speaker 1: Chelsea Winter's last book, Tasty, was the biggest selling book 2 00:00:03,080 --> 00:00:04,960 Speaker 1: of the year at this time. A little bit of 3 00:00:05,000 --> 00:00:07,760 Speaker 1: a change. We're back involved with meat and dairy. Nourish 4 00:00:07,840 --> 00:00:09,720 Speaker 1: is what it's called it to ate the book and 5 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:12,600 Speaker 1: Chelsea Winter as with us say very good morning, good morning, 6 00:00:12,760 --> 00:00:15,880 Speaker 1: and delightful to see you. We had Nadia limon the 7 00:00:15,960 --> 00:00:17,920 Speaker 1: other day and I was talking to her about publishing, 8 00:00:17,920 --> 00:00:21,720 Speaker 1: publishing in general, because I'm endlessly fascinated about it. So 9 00:00:21,720 --> 00:00:25,639 Speaker 1: several questions around publishing and cookbooks. Do you know the 10 00:00:25,720 --> 00:00:29,040 Speaker 1: people who buy your books whether they actually use them, 11 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:32,080 Speaker 1: like as a cookbook successful because of the recipes in 12 00:00:32,120 --> 00:00:34,360 Speaker 1: its use or you buy a cookbook because it's a thing. 13 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:39,319 Speaker 2: Well, I mean, I'm sure both both are true. I 14 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:41,760 Speaker 2: have the privilege of being able to be connected to 15 00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:43,919 Speaker 2: a lot of the people who buy my books through 16 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:47,040 Speaker 2: my social media. I have four hundred thousand followers on Facebook, 17 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:52,040 Speaker 2: and they send me photos of what they cook, and 18 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:55,000 Speaker 2: they send me messages thanking me. And my books have 19 00:00:55,080 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 2: always been created with the intention that they are to 20 00:00:57,640 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 2: be used. You know, it's not a coffee table, although 21 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:03,760 Speaker 2: they are beautiful. It's like especially Narash this one, it 22 00:01:03,800 --> 00:01:08,360 Speaker 2: is a practical, everyday resource to help people in the kitchen. 23 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:12,240 Speaker 2: It's that's what I'm here to do. 24 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:14,640 Speaker 1: So where do you reckon? We are then so accepting 25 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 1: that people use them and they cook and they still 26 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 1: like cooking. Where do you reckon? We are in this 27 00:01:18,920 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 1: business of the battle of eating rubbish food and getting 28 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:25,640 Speaker 1: obese and having diabetes versus being at home, using good 29 00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:28,480 Speaker 1: ingredients and making good food. We're winning that battle. 30 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:32,560 Speaker 2: I actually have no idea, but I would I would 31 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:35,840 Speaker 2: say that with the number of people that are buying cookbooks, 32 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:38,959 Speaker 2: because cookbooks are very successful at the moment, people are 33 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 2: cooking and eating at home, I would say like more 34 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:48,240 Speaker 2: than ever, and depending on what book you're using, Yeah, 35 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 2: it's homemade's always going to be best. 36 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 1: How do you tailor your recipes? I mean, how complicated 37 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:54,800 Speaker 1: do you make them? Do you have a recipe for 38 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:55,559 Speaker 1: the recipe? 39 00:01:56,640 --> 00:01:58,720 Speaker 2: Well, I mean, I think part of why the reason 40 00:01:58,760 --> 00:02:01,360 Speaker 2: my books are so successful because the recipes are easy 41 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:03,960 Speaker 2: to follow because I write them. And you know, there 42 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 2: is an art to writing a recipe. It's not just 43 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:09,240 Speaker 2: like a few sentences going debt debt like there used 44 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:13,120 Speaker 2: to be in the old days. I write them in 45 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 2: a way where I know that the reader at home, 46 00:02:14,639 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 2: even if I'm not like confident in the kitchen, can 47 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 2: go okay, I get what she's saying here, and I 48 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:20,400 Speaker 2: write them as a conversation. I write them as if 49 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:22,079 Speaker 2: I'm there in the kitchen with them, and I think 50 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 2: that is hugely important, as important as having a beautiful 51 00:02:25,639 --> 00:02:26,400 Speaker 2: image next to it. 52 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:29,359 Speaker 1: How long does that take to formulate a recipe? 53 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:32,359 Speaker 2: It takes a long time, like putting a book together, 54 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:34,960 Speaker 2: writing one hundred recipes. I write them all myself, and 55 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:38,200 Speaker 2: I test them all myself several times. It's months and 56 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:38,959 Speaker 2: months and wow. 57 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:41,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, so that's dedication to the task you reckon. You're 58 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:42,519 Speaker 1: getting better at it. 59 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:46,120 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, And that's why I feel so excited about Nourish, 60 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:48,560 Speaker 2: because you know, it's my eighth book, and it's a 61 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 2: culmination of everything I've learned over the last thirteen years, 62 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 2: but also the person I've become. And there's a purpose 63 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:56,240 Speaker 2: behind this book. Now it's not just like, oh look, 64 00:02:56,280 --> 00:02:57,919 Speaker 2: I wont master chef, I'm going to put out a book. 65 00:02:57,960 --> 00:03:00,680 Speaker 2: Isn't this fun? This is what am I here to do? 66 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:03,360 Speaker 2: Like why am I doing this? I'm doing it to 67 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 2: empower people in the kitchen to uplift them and inspire 68 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 2: them to help them nourish their families in a way 69 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 2: that's accessible and easeful and joyful. 70 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:14,000 Speaker 1: And do you reckon you would have done it if 71 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:15,320 Speaker 1: you'd never been on Mastership? 72 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:19,960 Speaker 2: I don't know, this really good question. I actually don't know. 73 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean I would have probably found 74 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:27,399 Speaker 2: my way to it somehow with where I'm stepping into now. 75 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 2: But what I have eight cookbooks under them about? 76 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 1: Well, no, see, that's what fascinates me about. See, reality 77 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:37,280 Speaker 1: television isn't what it was when you want Mastership. It's 78 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 1: not the same thing anymore, sadly, is it. And so 79 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:43,120 Speaker 1: at one point you could argue that reality television served 80 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 1: a decent purpose. And if you go, say to Master 81 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:48,480 Speaker 1: Chef in Britain, there was at least one New Zealander 82 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:51,120 Speaker 1: from memory who ended up opening his own restaurant, So 83 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:53,840 Speaker 1: it became a real It was a genuine spring board 84 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:56,800 Speaker 1: for people with genuine talent to go to a place 85 00:03:56,840 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 1: they wanted to go to. And you're a good example 86 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:02,800 Speaker 1: of using your success out of that to land somewhere. 87 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 1: Whereas now I just worry that you know, it's just 88 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:09,240 Speaker 1: about getting a profile or boosting your social media and 89 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 1: it's not the same. 90 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:12,760 Speaker 2: It's not the same. And I think what people respond 91 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:14,080 Speaker 2: to at the end of the day is always the 92 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:17,960 Speaker 2: same thing. It's the heart behind things, it's the authenticity, 93 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 2: and it's it's what you're creating. People are sick of 94 00:04:21,400 --> 00:04:25,520 Speaker 2: just seeing and you know, they want something with substance. 95 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:27,840 Speaker 2: They want something they can connect to, that they can 96 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:30,720 Speaker 2: relate to, and that they can trust. And I think, 97 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:34,440 Speaker 2: you know, that is what I strive to be like 98 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:35,480 Speaker 2: with what I'm doing. 99 00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:38,680 Speaker 1: And I always have Do you self publish? No, I don't, 100 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:41,480 Speaker 1: so have you thought about that? I have, indeed so 101 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:44,160 Speaker 1: for your model as somebody else does it for you 102 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:46,320 Speaker 1: in that sense, and that works for you, just the 103 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:49,200 Speaker 1: reason Nadiaself publishes. And you know, I'm just trying to 104 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 1: work out what's the best path to publishing success. 105 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:56,200 Speaker 2: I think for me it was just a capacity thing, 106 00:04:56,520 --> 00:04:59,600 Speaker 2: right you know, I'm a solo mum now with two kids, 107 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:04,440 Speaker 2: and just for me personally, up until now, self publishing 108 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:07,599 Speaker 2: hasn't been an option because I just don't have the capacity. 109 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:13,400 Speaker 2: My time and energy is bitter spent creating what I'm creating, 110 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:17,040 Speaker 2: rather than managing all that other stuff, which is monumental, 111 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:19,480 Speaker 2: the amount that goes on behind the scenes. Like without 112 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:23,400 Speaker 2: my publisher, I don't know where i'd be publishers and 113 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:25,440 Speaker 2: so yeah, for me, that's what's worked. In the future, 114 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:29,039 Speaker 2: i don't know will I self publish possibly, I'm just 115 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 2: going to see where it goes. 116 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:33,080 Speaker 1: Do you go with trends in terms of food or not, 117 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:35,320 Speaker 1: you know what's currently hot. 118 00:05:37,279 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 2: That's always been my policy, Like, I don't follow things 119 00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:42,920 Speaker 2: just because they're hot. I'm not really interested in fads 120 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:45,880 Speaker 2: or food trends. What I'm interested in what feels good 121 00:05:45,960 --> 00:05:48,760 Speaker 2: and aligned and right to me. Because my books have 122 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:52,080 Speaker 2: always been an extension of who I am and where 123 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:54,120 Speaker 2: I'm at at a certain point in my life. That's 124 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:57,480 Speaker 2: the honesty behind the books and what I genuinely feel 125 00:05:57,600 --> 00:06:00,360 Speaker 2: is a good ingredient to start including in a recipe. 126 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:04,120 Speaker 2: I've experienced it myself, then I'll put it in, not 127 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:06,720 Speaker 2: just because someone says it on the news or I've 128 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:07,839 Speaker 2: read it in the paper somewhere. 129 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:10,719 Speaker 1: No, okay, so I think what a vegan? 130 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:16,719 Speaker 2: Yes? No, well, I mean I've the two books before Narish, 131 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:19,599 Speaker 2: so Nourishes, a return to meat, eggs and Dead The 132 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:22,040 Speaker 2: two books before were plant based because I was on 133 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:24,960 Speaker 2: a plant based journey myself, right, which I'm very glad 134 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:28,640 Speaker 2: I did. No regret, no regrets. I learned a lot, 135 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:34,719 Speaker 2: I gained a lot health wives, and I came to 136 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:38,880 Speaker 2: understand so much more about where our ingredients come from 137 00:06:39,279 --> 00:06:43,240 Speaker 2: and how important it is to be discerning, like if 138 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:46,800 Speaker 2: you're eating me, eat metand yeah exactly. So I just 139 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:49,040 Speaker 2: feel like I'm on a whole new platform now bringing 140 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:53,560 Speaker 2: them back in with reverence and intention. Organic if you 141 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:57,000 Speaker 2: can afford it one hundred percent. If you can't, then 142 00:06:57,240 --> 00:07:00,120 Speaker 2: that's okay. I don't BUI organic everything wrong. But if 143 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:03,479 Speaker 2: I can afford it, sometimes I think one hundred percent 144 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:05,080 Speaker 2: it is always the best choice. 145 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:08,280 Speaker 1: And what about cost? As an expert on food, what 146 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:12,120 Speaker 1: would you describe the market like in terms of feeding 147 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:14,680 Speaker 1: a family or buying food? Is there a cost of 148 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:17,720 Speaker 1: living crisis? Is it undaffordable or if you know what 149 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:20,400 Speaker 1: you're doing you can get buy I. 150 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:22,280 Speaker 2: Think it's pretty undeniable that there is a cost of 151 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:25,080 Speaker 2: living crisis. I think that's something that we're all feeling 152 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:30,200 Speaker 2: in all different ways. And yeah, food is more expensive 153 00:07:30,200 --> 00:07:32,680 Speaker 2: than it's ever been, so I think it's a matter 154 00:07:32,720 --> 00:07:36,680 Speaker 2: again of being discerning what you know, what can you 155 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:41,280 Speaker 2: do without and what is the smarter choice to actually 156 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:44,280 Speaker 2: spend the money on, you know, and that that just 157 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:45,760 Speaker 2: comes down to that and we all just do the 158 00:07:45,760 --> 00:07:46,600 Speaker 2: best we can. 159 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:50,120 Speaker 1: The point of a recipe, So in there is homemade chocolate. 160 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:55,600 Speaker 1: Is chocolate worth homemaking as opposed to just buying a 161 00:07:55,640 --> 00:07:56,200 Speaker 1: bar of it? 162 00:07:56,600 --> 00:07:58,960 Speaker 2: Some people would say so. Some people will do it 163 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 2: because it's fun, for the novelty factor, because they want 164 00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:03,960 Speaker 2: to do it with their children. And some people like 165 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:06,160 Speaker 2: me will do it even though I've got a barrow Witticker's, 166 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:10,880 Speaker 2: you know, always always in the fridge, because it's really 167 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:14,160 Speaker 2: really hard to find chocolate that is refined, sugar free, 168 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:14,880 Speaker 2: that's actually young. 169 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:17,040 Speaker 1: Most of it tastes awful, that's true. 170 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 2: So you know, there was there was there was a gap, 171 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:21,320 Speaker 2: there was something missing, and so I created it. And 172 00:08:21,360 --> 00:08:23,040 Speaker 2: that's what I've done a lot in Irish. 173 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:28,160 Speaker 1: The wellness thing. I read that with interest and I thought, 174 00:08:28,200 --> 00:08:31,560 Speaker 1: I thought, what a snide, horrible thing for it. And 175 00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:33,959 Speaker 1: that was funny enough. That was a Radio New Zealand story, 176 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:36,000 Speaker 1: wasn't it. And so that that came for people who 177 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:39,160 Speaker 1: didn't understand. You you do a wellness retreat and people 178 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:41,520 Speaker 1: pay money and you go off and you do whatever 179 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:43,679 Speaker 1: you do it your wellness retreat, and that's that's fine. 180 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:48,960 Speaker 1: That's but they seem to attack that as like a problem. 181 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:50,600 Speaker 2: And it's very interesting to witness. 182 00:08:50,720 --> 00:08:55,160 Speaker 1: Did that come out of nowhere? I mean, in other words, 183 00:08:55,200 --> 00:08:57,880 Speaker 1: it's not news. It wasn't news. Isn't news. It's like, 184 00:08:57,880 --> 00:08:59,319 Speaker 1: if you want to do a wellness retreat, do a 185 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:01,280 Speaker 1: wellness retreat? What do I care? Well? 186 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:06,800 Speaker 2: I think it speaks to an issue that is quite clear, 187 00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:10,599 Speaker 2: like why did it get so much attention? Why is 188 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:13,200 Speaker 2: it then when a woman is doing something to help 189 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:16,720 Speaker 2: empower other women that it becomes something that needs to 190 00:09:16,760 --> 00:09:17,440 Speaker 2: be torn down? 191 00:09:17,800 --> 00:09:21,200 Speaker 1: Like why is it? Like I'm assuming I was assuming 192 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:23,520 Speaker 1: it's a tall poppy thing, because you can't be the 193 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:25,840 Speaker 1: first person who we've invented a wellness In fact, I 194 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:27,319 Speaker 1: know you're not the first person who's ever in a 195 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:30,520 Speaker 1: wellness retreat, So therefore maybe it's about you. So you're 196 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:31,839 Speaker 1: it's the tall poppy thing. 197 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:34,520 Speaker 2: Well, it's like stay in your lane, little lady. What 198 00:09:34,559 --> 00:09:36,680 Speaker 2: are you doing over here? Like why are you doing this? 199 00:09:36,800 --> 00:09:39,439 Speaker 2: It's like, well, you know, we all evolve, we all 200 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:42,160 Speaker 2: have certain areas that we are stepping into, and for me, 201 00:09:42,400 --> 00:09:45,840 Speaker 2: these wellness retreats. And this is only the first one. Okay, 202 00:09:45,880 --> 00:09:48,400 Speaker 2: this is the first of many. This is somewhere where 203 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:51,880 Speaker 2: I'm going, and I'm going deep, and there will be 204 00:09:51,920 --> 00:09:55,440 Speaker 2: many more. And this is like, it's literally a calling 205 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:58,160 Speaker 2: for me. It's the most heart led creation that I've 206 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:00,560 Speaker 2: ever done. It is just it's weird where I'm going, 207 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:03,320 Speaker 2: and it's very very exciting. So you know, I don't 208 00:10:03,320 --> 00:10:06,280 Speaker 2: mind the conversation around it. I think it was really eliminating. 209 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:08,640 Speaker 1: Are you a business person in that sense? Because I 210 00:10:08,679 --> 00:10:12,120 Speaker 1: looked at your website and you've got the knives. No 211 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:15,560 Speaker 1: one loves knives more than I do. A high quality 212 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:18,280 Speaker 1: knife is a wonderful thing. So you're doing the knives 213 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:19,720 Speaker 1: and you're doing all sorts of bits. So this is 214 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:22,199 Speaker 1: a this is a business outside of publishing and books 215 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:22,920 Speaker 1: and stuff like that. 216 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:29,520 Speaker 2: Well, it's a cyventure. It's you know, people are so 217 00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:33,920 Speaker 2: fixated on this this business thing. Like if a prominent 218 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:38,760 Speaker 2: New Zealand man had done a wee pivot and you know, 219 00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:43,200 Speaker 2: let's say, created something along the same lines as what 220 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:46,240 Speaker 2: I've created. Would it have even got media attention? Would 221 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:48,520 Speaker 2: we be even having this conversation right now? No? 222 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:50,880 Speaker 1: No, it's my guess, no exactly. 223 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:52,559 Speaker 2: So what's the problem here. 224 00:10:52,760 --> 00:10:55,440 Speaker 1: Is, well, I don't have the problems to some people 225 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:57,760 Speaker 1: clearly did for a period of time. Are you living 226 00:10:57,760 --> 00:10:58,120 Speaker 1: the dream? 227 00:10:58,160 --> 00:11:01,160 Speaker 2: Then? Well I feel I am, and like success is 228 00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:04,720 Speaker 2: determined individually, right, Some people have a different idea of 229 00:11:04,800 --> 00:11:08,679 Speaker 2: what success is. My idea of success is living what 230 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:12,760 Speaker 2: my authenticity and in my truth and in my power 231 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:16,440 Speaker 2: and in alignment and doing something, getting paid for something, 232 00:11:16,559 --> 00:11:21,480 Speaker 2: making a living of something that feels like purpose, that 233 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:24,640 Speaker 2: feels like what I'm here to be doing, and that 234 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:27,440 Speaker 2: is exactly what I am doing. So in that sense, 235 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:31,719 Speaker 2: I've actually never been happier and there's nothing else I 236 00:11:31,760 --> 00:11:34,240 Speaker 2: would rather be doing than exactly what I'm doing right now. 237 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:36,880 Speaker 1: We can't argue with that, can you? Delightful to see you? 238 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:40,160 Speaker 1: Thank you so, Chelsea would to Nourish is the book. 239 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:43,560 Speaker 1: For more from the Mic Asking Breakfast, listen live to 240 00:11:43,679 --> 00:11:46,760 Speaker 1: news talks it'd be from six am weekdays, or follow 241 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:48,360 Speaker 1: the podcast on iHeartRadio.