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Speaker 1: Three hundred million dollars. That's how much the government's set

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Speaker 1: aside for the cook straight fairy break fee. Yonda will

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Speaker 1: get the money if we exit the contract. They will

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Speaker 1: get the money, regardless of weather they win the bid

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Speaker 1: to build the new ships. Carl Finlay is the Maritime

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Speaker 1: Union national secretary. He's with me now, Hi, Carl, how

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Speaker 1: are you doing? Jesez has a lot of money.

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Speaker 2: That's a lot a lot of money, mate, and it's terrible.

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Speaker 1: What if they can do it? I mean, Winston's been

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Speaker 1: over there in Korea, hope hopefully doing us some sort

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Speaker 1: of good deal. But what if they can get that down?

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Speaker 1: What if we can get the overall cost much lower

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Speaker 1: than the projected four billion?

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Speaker 2: Well, I'd say they're definitely be the goal and have

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Speaker 2: these world class builders, not the original plan similar to

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Speaker 2: the original planel will be ideal.

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Speaker 1: Do you think that if we because the ideally we

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Speaker 1: would use the two slots we had available for these

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Speaker 1: ships that were being built. We would use those two

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Speaker 1: slots to have you know, new it spelt a little

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Speaker 1: bit smaller, a little bit cheaper. Would that work? Do

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Speaker 1: you think?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? They definitely have to be rather noble and that

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Speaker 2: would work. I'm not sure if those slots are still open.

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Speaker 2: I guess Winston's going to hopefully lee some magic. That

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Speaker 2: it is terrible. I mean, the union has been saying

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Speaker 2: for a while that that this cost is going to

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Speaker 2: blow right out, and now it's coming to fruition, isn't it.

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Speaker 1: What are some of the costs that we're not hearing about.

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Speaker 1: You know, we're hearing about the three hundred million dollar

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Speaker 1: break feed, But some of the costs that we're not

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Speaker 1: hearing about from actually canceling that.

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Speaker 2: Deal, well, we have heard about them. I mean, it

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Speaker 2: was a reporter a while ago, and we've been saying

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Speaker 2: for a while it's Christopher billion dollars that has been

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Speaker 2: soaked up on this mistach that Nichola Willison's mate. I

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Speaker 2: mean that that would have, you know, obviously paid for

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Speaker 2: a lot of the needing hospital and a lot of

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Speaker 2: inter treatments if she hadn't made that silly Paul. But

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Speaker 2: it's all it's all there in black and white made it.

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Speaker 2: It's very clear, it's been well documented to documenta Sorry.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, how are you feeling? I mean, are you are

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Speaker 1: you a little bit optimistic? Knowing that Winston's in charge

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Speaker 1: he's gotten till March. Are you are you hopeful that

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Speaker 1: we can at least get something on the go and

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Speaker 1: have a ferry operating by twenty twenty seven.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely made. That has to be done. It's got

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Speaker 2: a you know, the country needs it. Well. I think

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Speaker 2: he's the guy. He gets he seems to get things done,

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Speaker 2: so very I'm very pleased that he's actually in there

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Speaker 2: and will accounts. It sounds look good. He's going to

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Speaker 2: get us, get us the best deal that he can

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Speaker 2: he can.

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Speaker 1: Let Cal thank you for that. Cal Finlay is the

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Speaker 1: Maritime Union National secretary. On the three hundred million dollars,

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Speaker 1: I should say that's not what we are paying or

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Speaker 1: what we have paid. That's what has been set aside.

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Speaker 1: This has come from Treasury documents. So we don't actually

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Speaker 1: know at this point what the cost, what the breakfee

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Speaker 1: might be, and indeed that may be up for negotiation,

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Speaker 1: and we don't have confirmation of that either, because you know,

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