1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,160 Speaker 1: Eight years ago, So mil Sing was Hamilton High School 2 00:00:03,240 --> 00:00:05,800 Speaker 1: ducks and a herald headline asked whether he might actually 3 00:00:05,840 --> 00:00:08,680 Speaker 1: be New Zealand's smartest teenager. He just turned down ten 4 00:00:08,680 --> 00:00:10,680 Speaker 1: of the world's top universities and decided to go to 5 00:00:10,840 --> 00:00:14,000 Speaker 1: univer to Harvard in the end. Fast forward to today, 6 00:00:14,160 --> 00:00:16,520 Speaker 1: he's living in New York. He already has one startup 7 00:00:16,560 --> 00:00:18,400 Speaker 1: under his belt, and he's about to launch a second. 8 00:00:18,680 --> 00:00:20,120 Speaker 1: So mil Sing is with us now. 9 00:00:20,120 --> 00:00:24,000 Speaker 2: He soml, Hey, how's it going? Very well? 10 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:25,560 Speaker 1: Thank you? No tell me what you reckon? Do you reckon? 11 00:00:25,560 --> 00:00:26,920 Speaker 1: This startup is the winner? 12 00:00:29,760 --> 00:00:32,400 Speaker 2: Look early days. Still, that's always the hope, that's always 13 00:00:32,440 --> 00:00:34,680 Speaker 2: the intention with these things. You know, we're in the 14 00:00:34,720 --> 00:00:38,159 Speaker 2: space that's growing, rapidly evolving, and that often creates the 15 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:40,800 Speaker 2: right kind of volatility to really drive a lot of value. 16 00:00:40,880 --> 00:00:42,040 Speaker 1: The space that's growing is AI. 17 00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:45,800 Speaker 2: Isn't it AI in all forms? Yep? So in our 18 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:48,159 Speaker 2: case it's the content creation side. And if you look 19 00:00:48,159 --> 00:00:51,400 Speaker 2: at almost every sector, there's some really convincing narrative for 20 00:00:51,440 --> 00:00:54,440 Speaker 2: how these new foundation models are going to really impact 21 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:55,560 Speaker 2: impact space. 22 00:00:55,720 --> 00:00:58,120 Speaker 1: So what does your business? So from the sounds of things, 23 00:00:58,200 --> 00:01:01,640 Speaker 1: if I was to use it. I would type into 24 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:04,440 Speaker 1: AI kind of like a promotional video that I'd like 25 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:06,120 Speaker 1: it to create, and it would create one up to 26 00:01:06,360 --> 00:01:07,560 Speaker 1: is it five minutes long for me? 27 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:12,480 Speaker 2: So right now, a little less than five minutes. It's 28 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:15,040 Speaker 2: really sort of targets towards short form content most of 29 00:01:15,080 --> 00:01:18,120 Speaker 2: the time ninety seconds or less. And in terms of 30 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:19,920 Speaker 2: what it does, it really depends on who you are 31 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:21,639 Speaker 2: as the user. So there are two kinds of users 32 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:24,160 Speaker 2: that we that we serve. The first as the individual 33 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:27,360 Speaker 2: content creator. So somebody who's you know, a YouTuber or 34 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 2: even sort of a TikToker can use the software to write, 35 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:32,560 Speaker 2: as you said, a text prompt and produce really any 36 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:34,840 Speaker 2: kind of video that may or may not be promotional 37 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:38,320 Speaker 2: in nature. And that's sort of the individual creator use case. 38 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:41,119 Speaker 2: And then secondly, for businesses and is what we're sort 39 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:43,280 Speaker 2: of rolling out at the moment over the next month 40 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:46,760 Speaker 2: or so, you would use this to create short from 41 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:48,960 Speaker 2: content that promotes your products, and you would use this, 42 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 2: you know, to post organic content on TikTok YouTube, you know, 43 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 2: wherever you've previously struggled to have a heights of through 44 00:01:55,600 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 2: both content. Yeah, so that's that sort of the high 45 00:01:58,000 --> 00:01:58,520 Speaker 2: level picture. 46 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:01,560 Speaker 1: Okay, so you managed to get somebody to part with 47 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:04,120 Speaker 1: six million dollars to plug into this, which suggests that 48 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:05,560 Speaker 1: that there are people out there who think this is 49 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 1: a winner. 50 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:12,200 Speaker 2: Right. Yeah. I think the landscape right now for investing 51 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:15,040 Speaker 2: in you know, tech startups is pretty good, and an 52 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:16,800 Speaker 2: AI as well is also really great. You know, we 53 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 2: see a lot of fundraising activity much bigger than this 54 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:21,840 Speaker 2: in the space too, for you know, new startups creating 55 00:02:21,880 --> 00:02:24,400 Speaker 2: foundation models. So I'm very fortunate to be in the 56 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:26,200 Speaker 2: you know, we're we're in a great position from sort 57 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:29,280 Speaker 2: of capital perspective. Yeah, it's just really exciting. 58 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:31,840 Speaker 1: What happened to your last startup? Did that go well? 59 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:37,519 Speaker 2: So that was sort of a year long sort of stint. 60 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 2: We were building bike sharing software for companies in America 61 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:45,960 Speaker 2: that operate micromobility systems, and we thought that was really 62 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:48,840 Speaker 2: promising direction. But that was sort of in the middle 63 00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 2: of COVID, and COVID essentially shut down the customers that 64 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:55,240 Speaker 2: we were serving and piloting with, and so at that 65 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 2: stage we had sort of part ways with that unfortunately, 66 00:02:58,200 --> 00:03:00,480 Speaker 2: which is a strange first experience. 67 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:03,200 Speaker 1: I was probably quite normal for an entrepreneur. How did 68 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:06,079 Speaker 1: you get from Hamilton to where you are right now? 69 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 1: What's the secret source? Do you reckon? 70 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:13,959 Speaker 2: I wonder this sometimes I'm not I'm not too sure. 71 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:17,120 Speaker 2: I had the itch to go to Harvard for some 72 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:18,959 Speaker 2: reason from when I was a kid. I think my 73 00:03:19,080 --> 00:03:21,520 Speaker 2: dad probably mentioned the name, and somewhere in my mind 74 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 2: I just thought I really wanted to go there. I 75 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:25,639 Speaker 2: didn't really think it was possible. And then you know, 76 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:28,200 Speaker 2: I met some great people a little bit later into 77 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 2: my high school career who gave me some good advice 78 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 2: about you know, going going to the States, how you 79 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:34,960 Speaker 2: can kind of apply. And that's when I realized, like, oh, 80 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:37,880 Speaker 2: I have the profile to potentially pull this off. And 81 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:39,800 Speaker 2: you know that's that's how that happened. And then you know, 82 00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:42,920 Speaker 2: from there things just compound. There are really great opportunities 83 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 2: where I went, and you know that sort of helped 84 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 2: me go to you know, Silicon Valley, raised capital, build 85 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:51,160 Speaker 2: a team, and you know, ultimately build this company. So yeah, 86 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:54,120 Speaker 2: it's it's it's a it's unclear exactly what the secret sources. 87 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 2: Maybe it was my my my parents sort of somehow 88 00:03:57,720 --> 00:03:59,760 Speaker 2: subliminally messaging me when I was when I was young. 89 00:03:59,840 --> 00:04:00,600 Speaker 2: I'm too sure. 90 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:04,120 Speaker 1: A week of the education system in New Zealand a 91 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:06,120 Speaker 1: very hard time. Are we giving it too hard a 92 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 1: time if it's able to send somebody to Harvard? 93 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:14,280 Speaker 2: I don't know. I think that wasn't really how I 94 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 2: thought about it. I think it was more that, you know, 95 00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:20,520 Speaker 2: my my parents are doctor as my older brother he 96 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 2: went to you know, Otago University to study medicine. And 97 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:26,360 Speaker 2: I felt like a lot of my friends wanted to 98 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:28,400 Speaker 2: do medicine, but I didn't. And it was almost as 99 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:31,040 Speaker 2: though I needed to create my own narrative. And I 100 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:32,800 Speaker 2: think that just drove a lot of this activity for 101 00:04:32,839 --> 00:04:35,320 Speaker 2: me to partner their disease. Well, I think that's more 102 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:38,680 Speaker 2: what it was. Yeah, And what. 103 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:41,960 Speaker 1: You're telling me is a family of high achievers, which 104 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:43,760 Speaker 1: is why you're a high achiever to mate beast of 105 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:45,160 Speaker 1: luck with them. And I really hope you do super 106 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:46,960 Speaker 1: well and become incredibly wealthy and then we can trade 107 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:50,839 Speaker 1: on your name. Somul Singh, founder of Unfazed dot Ai, 108 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:54,719 Speaker 1: which is the startup for more from Hither Duplessy Allen Drive. 109 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:58,279 Speaker 1: Listen live to news talks it'd be from four pm weekdays, 110 00:04:58,440 --> 00:05:00,599 Speaker 1: or follow the podcast on high Hard Radio.