1 00:00:01,080 --> 00:00:04,440 Speaker 1: Setting the news agenda and digging into the issues. The 2 00:00:04,640 --> 00:00:09,440 Speaker 1: Mic Hosking breakfast with the range rovervillare designed to intrigue 3 00:00:09,480 --> 00:00:09,920 Speaker 1: and use. 4 00:00:09,840 --> 00:00:12,119 Speaker 2: Togs that'd be bulling and welcome today. The Reserve Bank 5 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:14,319 Speaker 2: and the hype around the call. Our tourism numbers are 6 00:00:14,320 --> 00:00:16,920 Speaker 2: still dire. We've got an electricity deal, but it's got 7 00:00:16,920 --> 00:00:19,239 Speaker 2: a lot of band aid about it. Politics Wednesday with 8 00:00:19,280 --> 00:00:21,640 Speaker 2: Mark and Jinny after right of course, Richard Arnold, Steve Price. 9 00:00:21,720 --> 00:00:24,880 Speaker 2: They do the business as well, Hosking. Welcome to the 10 00:00:24,880 --> 00:00:27,760 Speaker 2: middle of the week. So there's mad back and forward 11 00:00:27,800 --> 00:00:29,840 Speaker 2: between the commercial banks and the Reserve Bank gets another 12 00:00:29,920 --> 00:00:32,400 Speaker 2: outing today over whether our pain and misery is such 13 00:00:32,440 --> 00:00:34,360 Speaker 2: that we might just get some relief in the form 14 00:00:34,360 --> 00:00:36,960 Speaker 2: of a cash rate cut in the middle. Its poor 15 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:38,920 Speaker 2: old us paying more than we ever have for just 16 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:41,760 Speaker 2: about everything. Some worried about our jobs, those not worried 17 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:45,000 Speaker 2: maybe having already lost them. The optimism sapped from us 18 00:00:45,080 --> 00:00:48,120 Speaker 2: years ago being reminded that in Q two, as in April, 19 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:50,920 Speaker 2: May and June of this year and Q three i 20 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:54,600 Speaker 2: e right now we are most likely yet again going 21 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:58,200 Speaker 2: backwards economically, which would meet our third recession in a 22 00:00:58,200 --> 00:01:00,280 Speaker 2: couple of years, surely the worst economic rerec called of 23 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:03,520 Speaker 2: any country we even remotely compare ourselves to the charge. 24 00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 2: As far as banks goes seems to be led by 25 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:08,360 Speaker 2: QBI Bank, who say cutting should already be underway. B 26 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:10,880 Speaker 2: and Z no agree, ASB has changed their tune and 27 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:13,560 Speaker 2: joined the cut now chorus. But only our old mate 28 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:16,080 Speaker 2: Bradley Olsen of Infometrics is called it right all along. 29 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 2: They won't cut because they can't cut, because by cutting 30 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:24,120 Speaker 2: now they'll be admitting to a mistake of gargantuan proportions. Because, 31 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:26,319 Speaker 2: as he quite rightly points out, a lot of what 32 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:29,280 Speaker 2: is happening, as ugly as it is, is exactly what 33 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:31,560 Speaker 2: the Reserve Bank said would happen. In other words, it's 34 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:34,040 Speaker 2: going to plan. Why would you up end your plan 35 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:36,360 Speaker 2: if it's going to plan. And if you were looking 36 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:38,480 Speaker 2: last week for those job numbers to change their mind, 37 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:40,440 Speaker 2: the job numbers weren't as bad as many had thought. 38 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:43,679 Speaker 2: The Reserve Bank has said many times they expect unemployment 39 00:01:43,680 --> 00:01:45,839 Speaker 2: to pek at five point five. It's a four point six, 40 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:48,120 Speaker 2: lots more jobs to be lost. Yet not that you've 41 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:49,720 Speaker 2: got to reach, of course, the end of the economic 42 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 2: road before you actually cut, but we're still a fair 43 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 2: way short according to their plan. No, none of this 44 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 2: is good. I get that, and yes, agreeing with retail 45 00:01:57,800 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 2: banks that it all sucks is easy. But pleading for 46 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 2: what you want and getting what you want are not 47 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:09,960 Speaker 2: the same thing. And we will find this out later today. 48 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:11,160 Speaker 3: News of the world in ninety seconds. 49 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:12,880 Speaker 2: Let's start with the war, which has taken a reasonably 50 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:16,280 Speaker 2: dramatic twist with the Ukrainian incursion. The Foreign Minister arguing 51 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:19,120 Speaker 2: this is still Ukraine, so they will not be entering Russia. 52 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:22,800 Speaker 4: I can also emphasize here unlike Russia, Ukraine does not 53 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:26,120 Speaker 4: need other people's territory. Ukraine is not interested in taking 54 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:28,520 Speaker 4: over the territory of the Curse region, or we want 55 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:29,880 Speaker 4: to protect the lives of our people. 56 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:32,720 Speaker 2: It turns out, are US delegations arrived and given all 57 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:34,720 Speaker 2: the planes and the money they've panted over, are they 58 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:36,520 Speaker 2: liking the looks of us? What I think about? 59 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:36,919 Speaker 5: Curse? 60 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:43,840 Speaker 2: Bold, brilliant, beautiful, keep it up? Who started this? 61 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:45,160 Speaker 6: Are the war? 62 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:47,360 Speaker 2: Lebanese? There are a bit miff the world isn't doing 63 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 2: enough to stop Israel reaching out beyond their borders. 64 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:52,680 Speaker 7: So we are very worried from the intentions of what 65 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:56,400 Speaker 7: is happening by the Israeli government and the fact that 66 00:02:56,880 --> 00:03:02,320 Speaker 7: a lot of the international community to know in action 67 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:04,359 Speaker 7: at least, and allowing. 68 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:07,440 Speaker 2: This then to brookly me yet again the system's failed victims. 69 00:03:07,440 --> 00:03:09,960 Speaker 2: So med men killed two last year in Nottingham. They 70 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:11,880 Speaker 2: had a look at the Mental Health Service saying guess 71 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:12,680 Speaker 2: what the reports is? 72 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:14,120 Speaker 3: It was so basic. 73 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:18,840 Speaker 6: The errors were not technical. There were basic, basic errors 74 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:20,359 Speaker 6: and repeated. 75 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:23,320 Speaker 2: Four times over. The new Health Secretary can do nothing 76 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:24,160 Speaker 2: but agree. 77 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:27,360 Speaker 8: Had the NHS done its job, had there not been 78 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:32,720 Speaker 8: multiple fundamental failures, three innocent people might still be alive. 79 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:36,040 Speaker 8: And that's why I totally understand why that've accused the 80 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:38,080 Speaker 8: NHS of having blood on its hands. 81 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:41,040 Speaker 2: And then in London benks hees Beck with work number nine, 82 00:03:41,080 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 2: this one on the gates of the zoo. 83 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:44,640 Speaker 9: What we do here is try to connect her in 84 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 9: some cases reconnect people with nature. By having this here, 85 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 9: we've drawn in so many extra people today and we're 86 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 9: able to then enable that connection. 87 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 2: I'll come back to that moment. Finally, the Indianapolis Motor 88 00:03:57,560 --> 00:04:00,360 Speaker 2: Speedway Museum, they're selling eleven cars with Southwy's to raise 89 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 2: money to restore and care for the rest of the collection. 90 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 2: We've got some beautiful pieces here, very rare nineteen fifty 91 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:08,240 Speaker 2: four Mercedes W one ninety six Streamline are driven by 92 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 2: Sterling mossnow less, you'll need one hundred million. A sixty 93 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:16,680 Speaker 2: four Ferrari two to fifty LM one LA Modern nineteen 94 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:19,360 Speaker 2: sixty five. That is a beautiful car. Fifty seven Chevrolet 95 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:21,720 Speaker 2: Corbette SS project with a magnesium body. You've got a 96 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 2: sixty six four g T forty Mark two they reckon. Overall, 97 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:27,800 Speaker 2: they're probably going to raise about one hundred and fifty 98 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 2: million US, so let's say three hundred million New Zealand 99 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:34,000 Speaker 2: dollars later this year and into next year because they're 100 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:35,720 Speaker 2: staggering the sales because you don't want to flood the 101 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:37,400 Speaker 2: market with that sort of stuff all at once. Anyway, 102 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:39,719 Speaker 2: that's news of the world in ninety seconds if you want, 103 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:42,400 Speaker 2: by the way to season fighters. Probably CNN's got the 104 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:47,839 Speaker 2: best looking photos of those particular cars. Banksy quickly they've confirmed. 105 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:52,279 Speaker 2: He's confirmed it's the final, one, ninth and final image. 106 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:54,640 Speaker 2: So what you've got go look it up again. I 107 00:04:54,839 --> 00:04:58,880 Speaker 2: still think the aquarium wins, but this one is very clever. 108 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:04,599 Speaker 2: It's a gorilla lifting the shutter to release a sea lion, 109 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:07,880 Speaker 2: and birds and other animals are looking on, and the zoos, 110 00:05:07,920 --> 00:05:10,600 Speaker 2: as you heard, delighted, and they're going to keep it 111 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:12,960 Speaker 2: and preserve it. How they do that without it getting graffited. 112 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 10: They've already put like a big sort of sea through 113 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:18,080 Speaker 10: screen over the front of it in case somebody tries 114 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:19,920 Speaker 10: to tomato zupid or something exactly. 115 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:21,800 Speaker 2: And it's a brilliant piece of work. The whole nine 116 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:23,600 Speaker 2: are brilliant pieces of work. But then I love Banksy. 117 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:29,160 Speaker 1: Twelve past six, the Mic Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast 118 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:32,320 Speaker 1: on iHeartRadio powered by News Talks Iby. 119 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:35,560 Speaker 2: You've gone off about the IKEA thing. I'll come back 120 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 2: to that later on. By the way, some people say 121 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:39,120 Speaker 2: that war is good for the economy. Not according to Fitch, 122 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 2: because Israel's credit rating has been downgraded over night Niggertive 123 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:45,200 Speaker 2: out look from A plus down to A fifteen past. 124 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:50,480 Speaker 11: Six, Saletrong devon PUNEs Management, Greg Smith, Welcome to Wednesday. 125 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:51,560 Speaker 3: Thank you, Mike. 126 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:52,040 Speaker 12: Good morning. 127 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:54,360 Speaker 2: So depressing these numbers, I mean tourism and then me 128 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:58,320 Speaker 2: and the migration worries me. Young people just leaving in droves. 129 00:05:58,839 --> 00:06:01,880 Speaker 12: Absolutely, it's it's not good news. So near migration definitely, 130 00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:05,840 Speaker 12: calling seventy three thousand in the June twenty twenty four year. 131 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:07,720 Speaker 12: That's down from a peak of one hundred and thirty 132 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:10,760 Speaker 12: six thousand in October twenty twenty three. You look at 133 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:14,080 Speaker 12: the monthly basis, it was twenty seven hundred and June. 134 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:17,240 Speaker 12: That was below thirty four hundred in May, below the 135 00:06:17,279 --> 00:06:20,760 Speaker 12: four thousand before the pandemic, lowest monthly flows since August 136 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:24,400 Speaker 12: twenty twenty two. So yeah, my going to arrivals can 137 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:26,520 Speaker 12: continue to ease. You look at non New Zeon citizens 138 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:29,000 Speaker 12: one hundred and twenty eight thousand and five hundred. There 139 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:32,440 Speaker 12: was fifty thousand live in October twenty twenty three. But yeah, 140 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:35,800 Speaker 12: the definitively bad news my departures of New Zealand citizens 141 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:39,279 Speaker 12: record levels net fifty five to three hundred in the year. 142 00:06:40,320 --> 00:06:43,400 Speaker 12: For every Kiwi that we've got coming back to these shores, 143 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:47,080 Speaker 12: we've got three leaving, have eighty thousand salt greener pastures, 144 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 12: particularly young ones. As you point out, thirty eight percent 145 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:52,520 Speaker 12: range eighteen to thirty, So that brain drain continues. It's 146 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:55,840 Speaker 12: not good, not good for our long term economic prosperity, 147 00:06:56,279 --> 00:06:58,039 Speaker 12: and not good news on the tourism front either. As 148 00:06:58,080 --> 00:07:00,680 Speaker 12: you point out visit arrivals up to seven percent to 149 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 12: three point two million in the year Jumnboiosi, US, China 150 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:07,919 Speaker 12: and the UK have inspired the increase. It was seventeen 151 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:11,120 Speaker 12: percent lower than the record for a junior three point 152 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:14,320 Speaker 12: nine million twenty nineteen. So some countries might go back 153 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:17,080 Speaker 12: towards pre COVID levels of US is Aussie isn't too 154 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:20,840 Speaker 12: far off, but China at fifty five percent of pre COVID. 155 00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:23,880 Speaker 12: It's really interesting here. I mean, we're trying to just 156 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 12: agree to scrap visas for Kiwi visitors. 157 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:27,840 Speaker 2: We're sort of. 158 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 12: Going in the other way. We're planning to increase visitor 159 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:35,200 Speaker 12: visas by sixty one percent to three and forty one bucks. 160 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 12: So yeah, we're gonna get five and a million revenues 161 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:39,040 Speaker 12: over the next four years, but you know, economy is 162 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 12: going to lose that on thousands for those that don't 163 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:43,760 Speaker 12: come here. So you know, we're already doing it tough, 164 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:45,960 Speaker 12: and we don't need to see tourism going backwards as well. 165 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:47,720 Speaker 2: No, we do not. And then we come to Australia 166 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:50,120 Speaker 2: where you land and the wage growth. Wage growth number 167 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 2: is interesting, it's still reasonably high. But it's easy, isn't it. 168 00:07:52,200 --> 00:07:53,200 Speaker 2: The increases of there easing. 169 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:55,560 Speaker 12: Yeah, that's right, So a lot here dozzi. As we know, 170 00:07:56,360 --> 00:07:58,240 Speaker 12: the green of patires are getting a little bit less green. 171 00:07:58,360 --> 00:08:01,520 Speaker 12: So your wages rose point percent in the Dune quarter. 172 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:03,400 Speaker 12: That was down from zero point nine per cent of 173 00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:05,960 Speaker 12: March mark and the IRBA that expected to hold steady 174 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:09,400 Speaker 12: private sector wages grew by just zero point seven percent. 175 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:12,480 Speaker 12: That's the last rise when he quarter since December twenty 176 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:16,120 Speaker 12: twenty one annually grave at four point one percent, and 177 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:18,640 Speaker 12: that followed three consecutive cars of four point two. 178 00:08:18,520 --> 00:08:20,120 Speaker 3: Percent public secte action. 179 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:21,840 Speaker 12: You must be pointed that's doing a bit better than 180 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 12: abend and salary caps put through pay increases in March 181 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:27,840 Speaker 12: that was three point nine percent. But the private sector 182 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:31,120 Speaker 12: definitely definitely a week also, so Squares of what Secrets things, 183 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:32,199 Speaker 12: that's the biggest jobs portal. 184 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:34,240 Speaker 2: They said online. 185 00:08:33,920 --> 00:08:38,000 Speaker 12: Paid advertisements on their platform was down twenty percent last year, 186 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:41,520 Speaker 12: actually a quarter forty percent fall in earnings of downgraded guidance. 187 00:08:42,160 --> 00:08:45,319 Speaker 12: So yeah, job openings are still above pre bit ten 188 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:49,240 Speaker 12: pandemic levels, but definitely moderating manually. You've got the unemployment 189 00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:51,440 Speaker 12: rate that's also client to four point one percent, and 190 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 12: I was like, that's also while the RBA, as we 191 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:55,719 Speaker 12: know we talked about, has brought out rate cuts for 192 00:08:55,720 --> 00:08:57,959 Speaker 12: the next sort of six months, so you know, their 193 00:08:58,040 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 12: rates at four point three five, we're five and a 194 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:02,880 Speaker 12: half year in the OCI. Maybe Agrian can do a 195 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:03,880 Speaker 12: bit more of a favor here. 196 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:08,240 Speaker 2: Today which home depot, what do they read? They had 197 00:09:08,280 --> 00:09:10,079 Speaker 2: a beat, but what are they telling us? 198 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:13,200 Speaker 12: Yeah, the downgraded the outlock, so she is up slightly. 199 00:09:13,559 --> 00:09:15,160 Speaker 12: I think that's also to do with the fact that 200 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:18,680 Speaker 12: year numbers a week and you know, more a cause 201 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:20,600 Speaker 12: for the feed cut rates. I suppose sort of adds 202 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:22,719 Speaker 12: to that. Well, no more we get numbers from wal 203 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:25,560 Speaker 12: Mart and all also likes of Target and also retail 204 00:09:25,559 --> 00:09:27,480 Speaker 12: sales numbers this week as well. But yeah, that sales 205 00:09:27,520 --> 00:09:30,200 Speaker 12: up point six percent forty three point two billion. Need 206 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:33,040 Speaker 12: income fell one hundred million for the quarter four point 207 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:36,280 Speaker 12: six billion. They said that customers have been defering projects 208 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:40,120 Speaker 12: since twenty twenty three due to higher rates and just 209 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:43,520 Speaker 12: basically putting off projects, but now it seems like customers 210 00:09:43,520 --> 00:09:45,880 Speaker 12: are doing so because of a sense of uncertainty around 211 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:48,800 Speaker 12: the economy. So they expect comparable sales to climb by 212 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:52,160 Speaker 12: three to four percent compared to the private school year, 213 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:55,000 Speaker 12: and they had guide for just a one percent decline. 214 00:09:55,080 --> 00:09:58,480 Speaker 12: So things definitely calling as it relates to home improvement, 215 00:09:58,480 --> 00:10:00,839 Speaker 12: as it relates to deal white, they're still bullish about 216 00:10:00,880 --> 00:10:03,920 Speaker 12: the long term. They're saying that there's a shortage of 217 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:06,319 Speaker 12: new homes and people will need to upgrade and so on. 218 00:10:06,360 --> 00:10:09,000 Speaker 12: But yeah, certain the customers are a lot more cautious 219 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:09,439 Speaker 12: than they were. 220 00:10:09,640 --> 00:10:11,640 Speaker 2: Okay, numbers please s and. 221 00:10:11,600 --> 00:10:13,360 Speaker 12: P five and up one and a half percent five 222 00:10:13,400 --> 00:10:16,920 Speaker 12: four two three, nere'stick cup two point one percent. The 223 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:18,600 Speaker 12: there up point eight percent. So we've had good news 224 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:21,280 Speaker 12: and inflation front with wholesale inflation up just zero point 225 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:24,360 Speaker 12: one percent last month. That was that was half of 226 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:26,880 Speaker 12: what expectations were. Only got the CPI tomorrow foots the 227 00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:29,040 Speaker 12: up point three percent UK wage growth at a two 228 00:10:29,120 --> 00:10:31,880 Speaker 12: year low. Unemployment rates also four Nick and your pen 229 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:33,520 Speaker 12: did a catch up there there was up three and 230 00:10:33,520 --> 00:10:36,360 Speaker 12: a half percent three six two three two a six 231 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:39,199 Speaker 12: two hundred up point two percent seven at twenty six 232 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 12: on the on those job numbers and reports, there and 233 00:10:42,120 --> 00:10:43,120 Speaker 12: wage growth. 234 00:10:44,800 --> 00:10:49,680 Speaker 2: Gone. Uh Grig Smith Devin Funds Management pasking the bill. 235 00:10:49,760 --> 00:10:51,560 Speaker 2: Either that or he hasn't got enough gas from methodics 236 00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:53,560 Speaker 2: yet and he hasn't hooked into the new power system. 237 00:10:53,559 --> 00:10:55,959 Speaker 2: Hello Fresh, by the way, which is an international company, 238 00:10:56,800 --> 00:10:58,880 Speaker 2: because of course we have Hello Fresh here. They actually 239 00:10:58,920 --> 00:11:02,200 Speaker 2: German based. A couple of things. One shares are up 240 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:05,280 Speaker 2: over nineteen percent better than expected earnings, so people are 241 00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:08,240 Speaker 2: still buying the meals. What they're now buying is ready 242 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:11,640 Speaker 2: made meals. So initially you got the pack like everybody else, 243 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:13,360 Speaker 2: and you cooked it yourself. Now you got sick of that, 244 00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:15,400 Speaker 2: So revenue is up one point seven percent, so now 245 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:18,960 Speaker 2: you're buying their ready made meal category. So they're reporting 246 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:21,320 Speaker 2: good news and we're still into the convenience of life. 247 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:27,000 Speaker 2: Six twenty one, Hered News Talk said Bo. 248 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:30,840 Speaker 1: The Mike asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered 249 00:11:30,840 --> 00:11:31,839 Speaker 1: by News Talks. 250 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:32,520 Speaker 3: At b Read. 251 00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 2: The numbers leaving the country. I'd like to know a breakdown. 252 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:37,439 Speaker 2: I wonder what percentage of new immigrants who are leaving 253 00:11:37,480 --> 00:11:40,280 Speaker 2: for Canada, Australia c This is from disillusionment or as 254 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:42,240 Speaker 2: part of a longer term plan. I know many doing 255 00:11:42,280 --> 00:11:44,880 Speaker 2: this Indians in particular. The numbers are all there, they're 256 00:11:44,880 --> 00:11:47,200 Speaker 2: readily available, and I've had them for you later. The 257 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:50,800 Speaker 2: one we need to worry about, the New Zealander is leaving. 258 00:11:50,920 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 2: That's the major concern. Headline this morning, CNBC goes out 259 00:11:54,280 --> 00:11:57,920 Speaker 2: to the entire world headliners, people leave New Zealand in 260 00:11:58,040 --> 00:12:01,880 Speaker 2: record numbers as economy bites. That's the sort of reputation 261 00:12:01,920 --> 00:12:05,000 Speaker 2: we've got internationally, Mike. It's a hawkish twenty five basis 262 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:07,920 Speaker 2: points today. Mark Smith at the ASP's provided the best analysis. 263 00:12:07,960 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 2: Thank you, Connell. I think you're wrong, but we'll see morning, Mike. 264 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:13,679 Speaker 2: Ninety three percent. This goes back to carpeting the garage. 265 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:17,000 Speaker 2: I'm going to spend the morning on this. Ninety three percent. 266 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:19,120 Speaker 2: They obviously don't serve a R street my house, the 267 00:12:19,160 --> 00:12:21,720 Speaker 2: two on the left, the three on the right, and 268 00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:23,280 Speaker 2: the two on the other side of the street a 269 00:12:23,440 --> 00:12:25,600 Speaker 2: non carpet. I think it's nine point three percent. Ninety 270 00:12:25,640 --> 00:12:27,520 Speaker 2: three percent, Michael, Very good of you to know. 271 00:12:27,679 --> 00:12:29,880 Speaker 10: Well, it must be pointed out that it was only Auckland, 272 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:32,640 Speaker 10: Wellington and christ Church homes that were serving well, yeah, 273 00:12:32,960 --> 00:12:35,240 Speaker 10: those flesh Harrys and those big cities. 274 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:37,440 Speaker 2: It's only the people they went to, obviously, but it 275 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:40,600 Speaker 2: seemed to me like a stunning number as a painting 276 00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:43,000 Speaker 2: contract to Mike and christ Church, I'm calling BS on 277 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 2: the ninety three percent of garages have carpet in them. Sorry, Mike, 278 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:48,920 Speaker 2: that statistics, ninety three percent of garages capital in this 279 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:52,319 Speaker 2: country is total BS. Ninety three percent of garages carpetal 280 00:12:52,520 --> 00:12:54,280 Speaker 2: is fake news, boy. 281 00:12:54,720 --> 00:12:56,840 Speaker 10: I mean the other thing interesting thing about that status 282 00:12:56,880 --> 00:12:58,600 Speaker 10: that they were saying they weren't actually being used as 283 00:12:58,640 --> 00:13:02,319 Speaker 10: garages as well. But we know that I would, which 284 00:13:02,360 --> 00:13:05,000 Speaker 10: I found disappointing because my whole goal when I moved 285 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:07,480 Speaker 10: to a house, I don't feel like I'm moved in 286 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:09,840 Speaker 10: until I can pack both cars in their garage. 287 00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:11,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, but you and I are similar like that. I 288 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:13,480 Speaker 2: like a garage as a garage, but most people aren't 289 00:13:13,480 --> 00:13:15,080 Speaker 2: like that. Boy. This is a whole program because we 290 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:17,480 Speaker 2: will go to ten six twenty five trending. 291 00:13:17,760 --> 00:13:21,520 Speaker 3: Now with the squarehouse, you're one start for Father's Day. 292 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:24,880 Speaker 2: Fragrances Village in Norfolk flag debate. They're trying to work 293 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:27,080 Speaker 2: out whether to fly the Union jack. Some see it 294 00:13:27,120 --> 00:13:29,320 Speaker 2: these days as a bit divisive, so they go on 295 00:13:29,360 --> 00:13:32,120 Speaker 2: television GBTV. Aim and Holmes, is there you got a 296 00:13:32,160 --> 00:13:35,480 Speaker 2: royal historian, got an anti racism activist. Segment comes to 297 00:13:35,520 --> 00:13:37,400 Speaker 2: an end. They're about to throw to the break. 298 00:13:37,240 --> 00:13:38,880 Speaker 6: But Aim and I'm not going to let you get 299 00:13:38,920 --> 00:13:39,559 Speaker 6: away with that one. 300 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:41,960 Speaker 3: If you will consider it the empathetic of everyone. 301 00:13:41,600 --> 00:13:44,040 Speaker 11: Else and how they perceive the world, you might just 302 00:13:44,040 --> 00:13:45,520 Speaker 11: find yourself leading with the quality. 303 00:13:45,760 --> 00:13:47,959 Speaker 6: So you know, I'll finish it there, absolutely something. 304 00:13:48,200 --> 00:13:49,839 Speaker 3: Please, you don't have to lecture me. 305 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:51,680 Speaker 11: No, I have to when you say things like that 306 00:13:51,679 --> 00:13:54,559 Speaker 11: with audio respect because I sit in the middle trying 307 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:55,720 Speaker 11: to see both sides of things. 308 00:13:56,000 --> 00:13:57,199 Speaker 6: Did you finish with mine? 309 00:13:57,360 --> 00:13:59,080 Speaker 3: Did you finish with mine? You finished with race? 310 00:13:59,360 --> 00:14:02,679 Speaker 11: And this is a again I've finished with everyone. I'm 311 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:09,000 Speaker 11: trying to say, you finished validating his point. In Northern Ireland, 312 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:13,120 Speaker 11: flag represented something to the nical and empty to a 313 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:13,920 Speaker 11: certain religion. 314 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:15,720 Speaker 6: Nor I did. 315 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:17,720 Speaker 3: I had to liver just like with black people. 316 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:20,720 Speaker 11: You're not black, sir, and I understand racism more. 317 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:31,240 Speaker 6: Than your So that's that. 318 00:14:31,560 --> 00:14:35,280 Speaker 2: So yesterday I raised on the program this business of 319 00:14:35,520 --> 00:14:38,720 Speaker 2: exporters seemed to be in the fishing industry, the business 320 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:42,760 Speaker 2: of exporters not knowing and not ticking the appropriate box 321 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:45,840 Speaker 2: on terror free deal. So we all know about the 322 00:14:45,920 --> 00:14:48,720 Speaker 2: UK deal terror free, we all know about the c 323 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:52,240 Speaker 2: P T P p p x y Z no terroriffs, 324 00:14:52,320 --> 00:14:55,440 Speaker 2: and yet people are exporting fish don't seem to know 325 00:14:55,520 --> 00:14:59,000 Speaker 2: about it, so they continue years after still paying TERRORFT. 326 00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:02,440 Speaker 2: So I raised the question, what the hell is going on? Fortunately, 327 00:15:02,840 --> 00:15:04,720 Speaker 2: hopefully we have some answers and we'll do that after 328 00:15:04,720 --> 00:15:06,520 Speaker 2: the news, which is next to your at news Talk. 329 00:15:06,440 --> 00:15:15,720 Speaker 1: Said you're trusted ho for News Fort Entertainments of Opinion 330 00:15:15,800 --> 00:15:19,680 Speaker 1: and Mike the Mike Hosking Breakfast with Bailey's real Estate, 331 00:15:19,920 --> 00:15:23,840 Speaker 1: your local experts across residential, commercial and rural news talks 332 00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:24,480 Speaker 1: headb like. 333 00:15:24,480 --> 00:15:26,400 Speaker 2: Not a snowballs chance in hell of a rake cut today, 334 00:15:26,400 --> 00:15:28,320 Speaker 2: our Reserve Bank governor likes his power too much, a 335 00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:30,760 Speaker 2: hangover from his days of hanging out eating sausage rolls 336 00:15:30,760 --> 00:15:32,680 Speaker 2: with Grant and Chippy. But on a serious note, I 337 00:15:32,680 --> 00:15:34,440 Speaker 2: think we're better to hold at five five a little 338 00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:36,480 Speaker 2: bit longer to avoid the risk of a rebound inflation. 339 00:15:36,560 --> 00:15:41,160 Speaker 2: That's his argument. To be fair to Adrian Orr, he 340 00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:43,960 Speaker 2: has been consistent. What I suspect will happen today? Is 341 00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:47,119 Speaker 2: he going to have a major turnaround in the language. 342 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:49,440 Speaker 2: No cut, but the language will be something along the 343 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:52,040 Speaker 2: time October November. I don't even know that he'll be 344 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:55,200 Speaker 2: that specific because he'll be super scared of people going nuts. Anyway, 345 00:15:55,200 --> 00:16:00,400 Speaker 2: here's where we're at ASB twenty five point cut for 346 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:04,080 Speaker 2: the subsequent announcements this year. So they're saying three twenty 347 00:16:04,080 --> 00:16:06,120 Speaker 2: five point cuts by the end of the year. We 348 00:16:06,200 --> 00:16:09,960 Speaker 2: acknowledge it as a lineball call B and Z pointing 349 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:13,120 Speaker 2: to a drop. They can either cut now, they argue, 350 00:16:13,200 --> 00:16:15,200 Speaker 2: or wait and be forced into a fifty point cut 351 00:16:15,200 --> 00:16:17,360 Speaker 2: in November. No one wants to see that because that's 352 00:16:17,400 --> 00:16:19,400 Speaker 2: an admission of failure. A and Z they say a 353 00:16:19,440 --> 00:16:22,880 Speaker 2: hold today, Kiwi Bank, they've driven a lot of this. 354 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:26,800 Speaker 2: They say it should already be cutting every meeting until 355 00:16:26,840 --> 00:16:29,360 Speaker 2: the OCR hits two point five, so that's a lot 356 00:16:29,400 --> 00:16:32,120 Speaker 2: of cutting. West Pac say they see a hold. So 357 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:34,560 Speaker 2: that's where you're at. Steven Joyce on the matter after 358 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:39,080 Speaker 2: seven o'clock the Trump one team, what a bus that 359 00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:41,480 Speaker 2: was yesterday, So we'll get the update from Richard Arden. 360 00:16:41,480 --> 00:16:43,920 Speaker 2: We'll get the reaction meantime back home. It seems odd, 361 00:16:43,920 --> 00:16:46,520 Speaker 2: but it was revealed at a recent seafood conference that 362 00:16:46,640 --> 00:16:49,200 Speaker 2: exporters are still paying tariffs on there are goods despite 363 00:16:49,240 --> 00:16:51,440 Speaker 2: the fact they can access the benefits of free trade deals. 364 00:16:51,480 --> 00:16:54,520 Speaker 2: In other words, they should be paying no tariffs at all, 365 00:16:54,560 --> 00:16:57,760 Speaker 2: but forty percent of them are paying unnecessary tariffs, for example, 366 00:16:57,760 --> 00:17:00,200 Speaker 2: to the UK. So what's going on here? Seafood and 367 00:17:00,240 --> 00:17:02,840 Speaker 2: CEO Lisa Footcheck is with us on this. Lisa, very 368 00:17:02,840 --> 00:17:03,520 Speaker 2: good morning to you. 369 00:17:05,240 --> 00:17:05,480 Speaker 13: Mike. 370 00:17:05,840 --> 00:17:08,600 Speaker 2: This is the weirdest story, is it true? 371 00:17:09,520 --> 00:17:10,119 Speaker 14: Look, it's not a. 372 00:17:10,119 --> 00:17:13,359 Speaker 15: Weird story at all. We've uncovered the fact that it 373 00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:17,600 Speaker 15: appears that we are not taking full advantage of a 374 00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:21,040 Speaker 15: range of free trade agreements that m FAT has very 375 00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:24,040 Speaker 15: very successfully negotiated on our part. So we're in the 376 00:17:24,040 --> 00:17:25,800 Speaker 15: process of getting to the bottom of why that is 377 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:28,840 Speaker 15: and to give ourselves the ability to sort it out. 378 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:30,960 Speaker 2: Why would you not be taking full advantage? 379 00:17:32,359 --> 00:17:35,399 Speaker 15: We absolutely should be taking full advantage, but we're just 380 00:17:35,440 --> 00:17:39,040 Speaker 15: trying to understand exactly where the problem lies. It appears 381 00:17:39,040 --> 00:17:41,960 Speaker 15: that it is not necessarily with our exporters, but at 382 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:45,160 Speaker 15: the import end, because of course it's not our exporters 383 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:48,560 Speaker 15: that pay the tariff, it's their import agents. 384 00:17:48,440 --> 00:17:53,080 Speaker 2: Right, So would if I export muscles. Do I know 385 00:17:53,119 --> 00:17:55,439 Speaker 2: who my import agent is and do I deal with 386 00:17:55,480 --> 00:17:58,320 Speaker 2: them on a regular basis? And would I say something like, hey, 387 00:17:58,359 --> 00:18:01,240 Speaker 2: by the way, you do realize where are free Would 388 00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:03,080 Speaker 2: that level of communication be going on or not? 389 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:07,480 Speaker 15: Look, presumably it is, but I think it's probably fair 390 00:18:07,520 --> 00:18:09,600 Speaker 15: to say that it's a little bit more complicated than that, 391 00:18:09,680 --> 00:18:14,480 Speaker 15: because of course we're dealing with multiple species, probably an 392 00:18:14,520 --> 00:18:17,439 Speaker 15: excess of one hundred that we export to one hundred 393 00:18:17,440 --> 00:18:21,239 Speaker 15: and ten different markets, and obviously those are exported by 394 00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:23,919 Speaker 15: a full range of exporters. So it's a little bit 395 00:18:23,960 --> 00:18:26,159 Speaker 15: more complicated, Mike, and we're just getting to the bottom 396 00:18:26,200 --> 00:18:28,120 Speaker 15: of understanding exactly where the problem lies. 397 00:18:28,320 --> 00:18:31,119 Speaker 2: Because what wouldn't your average person who's exporting know about 398 00:18:31,160 --> 00:18:32,960 Speaker 2: the free trade deal with Britain and know about the 399 00:18:32,960 --> 00:18:35,280 Speaker 2: CBTPP for example. I mean, that's in the news. It's 400 00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:36,640 Speaker 2: all it's part of what we do. 401 00:18:38,080 --> 00:18:40,919 Speaker 15: Yes, that's correct. We do know about that, and to 402 00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:43,199 Speaker 15: the best of our knowledge, we were accessing it, and 403 00:18:43,240 --> 00:18:45,879 Speaker 15: to be honest, we're not entirely sure the extent to 404 00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:48,399 Speaker 15: which we're not, which is why we are talking to 405 00:18:48,600 --> 00:18:52,000 Speaker 15: m Fat. We are working at pace to understand the problem. 406 00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:54,439 Speaker 15: So that we can help our members to access it 407 00:18:54,520 --> 00:18:56,240 Speaker 15: and get the full benefit of those egeries. 408 00:18:56,320 --> 00:18:58,520 Speaker 2: So when the bloke from NB was at this conference 409 00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:01,920 Speaker 2: and he estimates m fat em it estimates forty percent 410 00:19:02,320 --> 00:19:05,119 Speaker 2: of exporters to the UK, for example, still paying a terriff, 411 00:19:05,160 --> 00:19:06,800 Speaker 2: you have no idea whether that's correct or not. 412 00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:10,960 Speaker 15: So look, that's correct. We do need to validate the statistics, 413 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:14,040 Speaker 15: and some of this information is of course commercially sensitive, 414 00:19:14,200 --> 00:19:17,760 Speaker 15: So we're just working with m FACT to understand where 415 00:19:17,800 --> 00:19:20,320 Speaker 15: the issue lies and hopefully by the end of the 416 00:19:20,359 --> 00:19:22,560 Speaker 15: week will be in a much better position to understand 417 00:19:22,600 --> 00:19:25,320 Speaker 15: what that is and how we can help our exporters 418 00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:28,159 Speaker 15: take full advantage of these FTAs well. 419 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:30,119 Speaker 2: Without looking to upset you so early in the morning. 420 00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:33,399 Speaker 2: Is this partially on you in terms of you're not 421 00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:36,240 Speaker 2: communicating with your industry, or is it on them and 422 00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:40,040 Speaker 2: they're not communicating with you who aren't communicating with their industry, 423 00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:41,840 Speaker 2: or is it the fisherman's fault who should know what's 424 00:19:41,840 --> 00:19:42,240 Speaker 2: going on? 425 00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:43,640 Speaker 16: Well, look at the. 426 00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:46,439 Speaker 15: Stage, Mike, we're just not a portioning blame anywhere. We 427 00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:49,520 Speaker 15: want to understand the issue so that we can address it. 428 00:19:49,880 --> 00:19:51,679 Speaker 2: All right, Listen, we'll get you back on. When you 429 00:19:51,800 --> 00:19:52,879 Speaker 2: do you reckon. By the end of the week you 430 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:53,520 Speaker 2: might have something. 431 00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:56,600 Speaker 15: I think by the end of the week we will 432 00:19:56,600 --> 00:19:59,160 Speaker 15: be closer. But I'd be very happy to come back 433 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:00,879 Speaker 15: on once we undert and what the issue was and 434 00:20:00,960 --> 00:20:02,000 Speaker 15: how we're seeking to a tress. 435 00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:04,400 Speaker 2: Fantastic love to talk to you again, Lisa foot Check, 436 00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:06,879 Speaker 2: who is the Seafood New Zealand CEO. It just seems 437 00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:10,840 Speaker 2: boring on inconceivable to me that as an exporting nation 438 00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:14,239 Speaker 2: we're not on top of the exporting rules, or am 439 00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:16,440 Speaker 2: I being unfair? I mean I've already given you a 440 00:20:16,480 --> 00:20:18,920 Speaker 2: dodgy garage information this morning, so from who the hell 441 00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:21,480 Speaker 2: knows what's going on nineteen minutes away from seven past, 442 00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:26,000 Speaker 2: it might time to get off the glass barbecue and 443 00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:29,000 Speaker 2: just think about what you're saying. Mate, don't shoot the messenger. 444 00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:32,080 Speaker 2: I didn't make this up. This is a survey. There 445 00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:34,720 Speaker 2: is no way it is even close to fifteen to 446 00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:37,400 Speaker 2: twenty percent. We build are involved with twenty five houses 447 00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:39,840 Speaker 2: a year currently struggling in the market, and only one 448 00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:41,879 Speaker 2: of these houses last year had carpet the gash. Were 449 00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:43,480 Speaker 2: you building poor people's houses? Mate? 450 00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:46,280 Speaker 10: Or it might not be in Wellington, christ It's sure 451 00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:47,919 Speaker 10: up one, yeah, I mean, it wasn't the only thing 452 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:48,520 Speaker 10: that they surveyed. 453 00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:48,960 Speaker 17: Of course. 454 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:51,639 Speaker 10: The other statistic that I found interesting was that thirty 455 00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:54,000 Speaker 10: six percent of us sometimes dance or sing when no 456 00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:54,720 Speaker 10: one's around. 457 00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:56,800 Speaker 2: I would have thought it was higher than that. 458 00:20:57,440 --> 00:21:00,080 Speaker 10: Well, that's actually higher than the global average of thirty five. 459 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:02,240 Speaker 2: And I would have had it at sixty or seventy percent. 460 00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:03,840 Speaker 2: I think there's a lot of people just pretending they 461 00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:05,920 Speaker 2: don't sing and dance, or don't realize they're singing. 462 00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:07,680 Speaker 10: In the first thing I did when we first got 463 00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:11,000 Speaker 10: our first garage carpet, this rich. 464 00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:13,159 Speaker 2: Person will you? 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Can I sell flooring double 494 00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:31,240 Speaker 2: garages around twelve hundred bucks? Thank you, Donna, Mike. I 495 00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:34,320 Speaker 2: have carpet in my bike room for my mountain bikes. 496 00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:35,920 Speaker 2: You see fourteen away. 497 00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:40,320 Speaker 18: From seven International correspondence with ENZ and Eye Insurance, Peace 498 00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:42,560 Speaker 18: of Mind for New Zealand business Rich. 499 00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:45,480 Speaker 2: Darnald, Morning, mondy mate. So we're hearing from one of 500 00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:46,520 Speaker 2: the prisoner swaps. 501 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:50,119 Speaker 19: Gosh, here, this is extraordinary. We are now hearing word 502 00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:53,840 Speaker 19: from someone who was involved in this biggest US Russia 503 00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:55,600 Speaker 19: prisoners swapped since the end of the Cold War. The 504 00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:58,240 Speaker 19: exchange that occurred a couple of weeks back. It brought home, 505 00:22:58,280 --> 00:23:01,000 Speaker 19: as you know, Wall Street General reporter and Yskevich and 506 00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:04,040 Speaker 19: US Marine Paul Whilan among twenty four people in all 507 00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:07,679 Speaker 19: who were exchanged. Whelan had been held for what six years. 508 00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:11,960 Speaker 19: Now one of those freed US Russian citizen, Vladimir Kara Merzer, 509 00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:15,480 Speaker 19: is speaking out his crime, his shocking crime that brought 510 00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:18,520 Speaker 19: him a twenty five year prison term in the Putin Gulag, 511 00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:22,359 Speaker 19: was speaking out against the Russian war in Ukraine. He 512 00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:24,880 Speaker 19: had been held in the worst of the Siberian gulags 513 00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:28,280 Speaker 19: for eleven months. It was solitary confinement, tiny cell where 514 00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:30,680 Speaker 19: in the mornings they would roll up the sleeping match, 515 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:32,520 Speaker 19: so there was nothing for him to sleep on during 516 00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:33,840 Speaker 19: the day, just that stone floor. 517 00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:34,800 Speaker 3: Then, a couple of. 518 00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:38,280 Speaker 19: Weeks back, as he thought this was going to be 519 00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:40,879 Speaker 19: his life for another two and a half decades, the 520 00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:43,159 Speaker 19: prison bosses took him to their office and demanded that 521 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:47,119 Speaker 19: he write an official statement in praise of Vladimir Putin. Well, 522 00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:48,600 Speaker 19: he refused to be any part of that. 523 00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:51,280 Speaker 20: He said, no, I'm never going to write this. They 524 00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:53,199 Speaker 20: said why not, I said all. First of all, because 525 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:56,800 Speaker 20: I do not consider Vladimir Putin to be a legitimate president. 526 00:23:56,840 --> 00:23:59,320 Speaker 20: I consider him to be a dictator, a usurper, and 527 00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:02,760 Speaker 20: a murderer whose personally responsible for the death of his 528 00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:03,680 Speaker 20: political opponents. 529 00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:06,400 Speaker 19: These guys have some guts, don't they. Karen Mrsam had 530 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:09,720 Speaker 19: been friends with Raution opposition leader Alexi Navonni, who died 531 00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:13,280 Speaker 19: in prison in the most suspicious circumstances back in February. 532 00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:15,960 Speaker 19: The prison guards then came to get Kara Murza a 533 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:19,000 Speaker 19: few days on after this office encounter, and he thought 534 00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:22,200 Speaker 19: that he was just about to be murdered as well. 535 00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:24,320 Speaker 20: They said that I had ten minutes to get up, 536 00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:27,960 Speaker 20: get dressed, and get ready, and I was absolutely certain 537 00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:29,760 Speaker 20: of that moment that I was going to be let 538 00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:31,200 Speaker 20: out and get executed. 539 00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:32,160 Speaker 3: Ten minutes to execution. 540 00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:35,040 Speaker 19: Well, they didn't kill him. Instead, they took him off 541 00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:38,200 Speaker 19: to the local airport in Omsk in his underwear. 542 00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:40,640 Speaker 20: They don't have any words to express how it feels 543 00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:43,760 Speaker 20: when you spent nearly a year in solitary confinement, just 544 00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:47,680 Speaker 20: setting in a tiny cell on your own, day after day, 545 00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:50,200 Speaker 20: not being able to speak to anyone, not being able 546 00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:52,639 Speaker 20: to go anywhere, not being able to do anything, and 547 00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:55,959 Speaker 20: suddenly find yourself in the middle of a busy passenger airport. 548 00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:58,199 Speaker 19: We on experience. Just a few hours later, he was 549 00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:00,919 Speaker 19: flown on to Germany, which was because part of that 550 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:04,600 Speaker 19: international prisoner swap. Then a call came in from Joe Biden, 551 00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:10,720 Speaker 19: US President, Joe Biden, who was with this man's young daughters. 552 00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:14,399 Speaker 21: Well, no one is strong enough for this. I was 553 00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:16,840 Speaker 21: sure I'm going to die in prison. I don't believe 554 00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:19,360 Speaker 21: what's happening. I think it's a I still think I'm 555 00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:22,880 Speaker 21: sleeping in my prisons instead of hearing your voice. 556 00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:25,719 Speaker 19: So that was the moment, Mike surreal, He says, what 557 00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:28,080 Speaker 19: an instant. As he notes, there are still hundreds of 558 00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:31,040 Speaker 19: political dissidents locked away by Putin and code. 559 00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:33,399 Speaker 2: What are the reviews on yesterday's effort? 560 00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:38,160 Speaker 19: Well, what box do you put this in? Political Chatter 561 00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:40,520 Speaker 19: was hardly an interview between the political candidate and the 562 00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:44,560 Speaker 19: world's richest man, Elon, who'd already endorsed him. So this's 563 00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:48,000 Speaker 19: not journalism. Once there chat got going forty minutes late, 564 00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:51,760 Speaker 19: Elon must praise Donald Trump for his many tweets during 565 00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:54,960 Speaker 19: his presidential term. That would be the main point right 566 00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:58,040 Speaker 19: before Trump was a ban then invited back to Twitter 567 00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:00,280 Speaker 19: or x Now. I got a call today. But the 568 00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:03,439 Speaker 19: audio quality of this Trump thing was so bad that 569 00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:06,240 Speaker 19: he was heard slurring words and speaking with a lisp, 570 00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:09,600 Speaker 19: according to some listeners. I mean maybe after Malfi, you know, 571 00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:11,879 Speaker 19: Glenn could go. I don't know, just a thought, but 572 00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:15,040 Speaker 19: here is part of the Trump plea for Jewish voter support. 573 00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:17,960 Speaker 22: I say, if you're a Jewish person, or if you 574 00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:21,080 Speaker 22: believe in Israel, if you're a person that you know 575 00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:25,360 Speaker 22: is very pro Israel, if you vote for her, it's 576 00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:26,240 Speaker 22: worse than Biden. 577 00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:29,960 Speaker 19: If you're a person who yeah, whatever, maybe his zedb 578 00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:33,359 Speaker 19: engineering could offer some assistance here. Anyway, there was little 579 00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:36,080 Speaker 19: new in the two hours of this. Also, on education, 580 00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:40,000 Speaker 19: Trump spoke of the idea of abolishing the federal Education Department. 581 00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:42,840 Speaker 22: I want to close up Department of Education, move education 582 00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:48,600 Speaker 22: back to the states where states like Iowa, where states 583 00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:51,920 Speaker 22: like Idaho. You know, not every state will do great, 584 00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:54,160 Speaker 22: So sorry. 585 00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:55,360 Speaker 3: Idaho, Sorry Iowa. 586 00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:57,160 Speaker 19: You know not everyone can do great. 587 00:26:57,359 --> 00:27:00,000 Speaker 2: They all right, man, Nice to see you. Richard Arnold's 588 00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:02,600 Speaker 2: there's a poll out to someone that trying to sprout 589 00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:04,920 Speaker 2: this morning. And if you know anything about Florida, it's 590 00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:08,399 Speaker 2: it's B's USA Today and Suffolk University. The headline is 591 00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:12,280 Speaker 2: KRMLA Harris's within striking distance of Trump in Florida. The 592 00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:16,679 Speaker 2: numbers forty seven to forty two. Trump leads. But because 593 00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:18,480 Speaker 2: there's a four point four percent margin of era, they 594 00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:21,200 Speaker 2: say she's quote unquote within striking distance. History of Florida 595 00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:23,359 Speaker 2: is fifty to fifty. No one wins Florida by a 596 00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:25,119 Speaker 2: mile more minutes away from. 597 00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:29,760 Speaker 3: The Mike hosting Racist with the range Rover Villain newss 598 00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:30,959 Speaker 3: B the Move Mike. 599 00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:33,880 Speaker 2: The plumbing company Franklins went into receivership yesterday. They joined 600 00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:36,280 Speaker 2: the growing list of iconic companies closed down or ruined 601 00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:38,600 Speaker 2: by the labour made recession. Fly by Smith and Coe 602 00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:41,320 Speaker 2: deval lay by many others. I'm a business owner. It 603 00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:44,400 Speaker 2: is dark times out there. I hope Adrian Or has 604 00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:46,720 Speaker 2: some light at the end of the tunnel for us 605 00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:49,159 Speaker 2: all today, Mike, I'm working out of my carpeted garage 606 00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:52,120 Speaker 2: in Canterbury right now. You're on you, Mike. I put 607 00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:55,399 Speaker 2: carpet into my car sheds in every home I've lived in, 608 00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:58,080 Speaker 2: including the last rental property I owned, wouldn't be without it, 609 00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:00,960 Speaker 2: especially sitting on the floor cleaning mags on the k Exactly, 610 00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:03,480 Speaker 2: if you're sitting on the floor cleaning your mags, you 611 00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:05,199 Speaker 2: need the luxury of a bit of carpet, don't you. 612 00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:08,040 Speaker 2: Five minutes away from seven. 613 00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:10,399 Speaker 3: All the ins and the ouse. 614 00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:14,800 Speaker 1: It's the fizz with business favor take your business productivity 615 00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:15,800 Speaker 1: to the next level. 616 00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:17,960 Speaker 2: Speaking of the economy, data up from the UK this 617 00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:20,479 Speaker 2: morning around jobs there are four points six We are, 618 00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:23,320 Speaker 2: by the way, four point six percent jobless, Reserve Bank 619 00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:25,320 Speaker 2: aiming for five point five and that's part of today's 620 00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:27,720 Speaker 2: equation of course, So in other words, there needing to 621 00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:29,760 Speaker 2: see more people lose their jobs, and Britain things are 622 00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:32,720 Speaker 2: getting a little bit better. Q two unemployment rate down 623 00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:35,040 Speaker 2: to four point two from four point four. So there 624 00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:37,800 Speaker 2: four point two is our four point six wage growth 625 00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:41,760 Speaker 2: good but slowing, and your rate of five point four percent, 626 00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:44,600 Speaker 2: which is the weakest it's been for the last two years, 627 00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:46,840 Speaker 2: just gives you an indication as to how bad it's 628 00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:49,360 Speaker 2: been in terms of inflationary. I mean the more people 629 00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:51,440 Speaker 2: you pay, I mean people love getting a pay rise, 630 00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:53,960 Speaker 2: but of course it's all inflationary. Number of job vacancies 631 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:56,000 Speaker 2: fell by twenty six thousand, which is nothing, of course 632 00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:58,640 Speaker 2: in a country of sixty six million, But a lot 633 00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:00,520 Speaker 2: of these numbers come with a bit of a caveat. 634 00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:03,000 Speaker 2: Economic analysts say that the job market continues to call 635 00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:06,040 Speaker 2: because of redundancies and those who aren't looking for work. 636 00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:08,920 Speaker 2: Britain has a huge problem. We've talked about it with 637 00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:12,120 Speaker 2: Rod before. Just the number of people who sit on 638 00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:14,960 Speaker 2: their bum waiting for the next riot collecting welfare is 639 00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:17,840 Speaker 2: an astonishing figure in Britain. Plus, the Office to National 640 00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:20,280 Speaker 2: Stats also admits that the survey where they get the 641 00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:22,640 Speaker 2: data from, has had a smaller number of respondents over 642 00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:25,040 Speaker 2: the past year than usual, so it could be slightly skewed. 643 00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:27,800 Speaker 2: Bank of England cut last month. They're down at five 644 00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:31,760 Speaker 2: percent of course, so on the economy, we'll talk to 645 00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:34,000 Speaker 2: Stephen Joyce about what he's seeing at the moment and 646 00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:38,640 Speaker 2: whether or not it's just a fascinating thing, the contrast 647 00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:41,960 Speaker 2: and the angst between retail banks, between US and the 648 00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:45,240 Speaker 2: Reserve Bank, and so what adrianaw says today is critical 649 00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:47,360 Speaker 2: and that will be the takeout. It won't be the 650 00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:49,720 Speaker 2: number or the non move, because there won't be a 651 00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:53,240 Speaker 2: move unless of course we're wrong. It'll be the commentary 652 00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:55,400 Speaker 2: as to where he's heading, where he thinks he's heading, 653 00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:58,240 Speaker 2: and he's going to have to pull back dramatically because 654 00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:01,560 Speaker 2: currently officially he's not cutting until next year. And I 655 00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:05,120 Speaker 2: don't know that anyone, not even Adrian or believes that 656 00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:06,840 Speaker 2: that's still tenable now. So we'll have a look at 657 00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:08,280 Speaker 2: this in the next half hour of the program. And 658 00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:10,320 Speaker 2: part of the problem over all, of course is tourism. 659 00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:14,520 Speaker 2: Yet more numbers yesterday that indicate yet again we are 660 00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:17,000 Speaker 2: still not back to where we should be, or still 661 00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:19,040 Speaker 2: to come. On the My Costing Breakfast. 662 00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:24,960 Speaker 1: The newsmakers and the personalities of the big names talk to 663 00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:29,520 Speaker 1: like the My Costing Breakfast with a Veta, Retirement Communities, 664 00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:31,800 Speaker 1: Life Your Way News, TOG said. 665 00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:34,400 Speaker 2: Being seven past seven. So today's Reserve Bank announcement almost 666 00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:37,320 Speaker 2: has a heavyweight fight commentary by way of lead up, 667 00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:40,080 Speaker 2: doesn't it. The expectations bean sproved the potential for disappointments, 668 00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:42,920 Speaker 2: reel the second guessings gone, next level retail banks and 669 00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:45,360 Speaker 2: mixed between a cut, there should be a cut, there 670 00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:47,320 Speaker 2: won't be a cut? Are there we? No cut at all? 671 00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:49,960 Speaker 2: Former Finance Minister Stephen Joyce's with us. Very good morning 672 00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:52,720 Speaker 2: to you, morning Mike, how are you so very well? 673 00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:55,440 Speaker 2: Two part question? What should he do? What will he do? 674 00:30:57,280 --> 00:31:02,160 Speaker 5: Okay? What should he do? Well? The question is I 675 00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:04,760 Speaker 5: just do it this way. Two things. One is he'll 676 00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:07,800 Speaker 5: be worried about on the one side, non tradable inflation 677 00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:11,600 Speaker 5: and potentially having to backtrack later, So that's the sort 678 00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:15,480 Speaker 5: of hawkish approach. On the other side, all the dials 679 00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:20,320 Speaker 5: are looking at a pretty flat economy, if not further declining. 680 00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:23,640 Speaker 5: You've got a lot of stuff around the country of 681 00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:28,760 Speaker 5: businesses really struggling, and you've got this energy thing coming 682 00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:31,920 Speaker 5: in now, which is going to have a significant impact 683 00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:34,760 Speaker 5: on economic activity in the second half of the year, 684 00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:38,760 Speaker 5: not perhaps broadly across the economy, but in particular areas 685 00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:43,360 Speaker 5: of the country like Taranaki, and so yeah, there are 686 00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:45,640 Speaker 5: the two things he and the committee are weighing up. 687 00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:49,880 Speaker 5: My personal view is that we are there, I e. 688 00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:53,760 Speaker 5: It's now time to make a cut, but I'm not 689 00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:54,480 Speaker 5: convinced he will. 690 00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:58,160 Speaker 2: Okay, will he run some commentary that gives a very 691 00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:01,200 Speaker 2: very clear indication that next years business is now this 692 00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:03,680 Speaker 2: year's business and he'll be going before Christmas. 693 00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:06,440 Speaker 5: I think what will happen is he'll either do a 694 00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:10,480 Speaker 5: cut and be hawkish he is twenty five's point two 695 00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:14,480 Speaker 5: five but you know things are still on an ipge 696 00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:18,880 Speaker 5: out there and don't expect anymore necessarily this side of Christmas. 697 00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:21,200 Speaker 5: Or he'll go the other way and say, well, we're 698 00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:23,040 Speaker 5: not doing anything yet, but you know things are coming 699 00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:25,160 Speaker 5: under control that we would expect to do. And I 700 00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:27,959 Speaker 5: think that in practice the two things would be the same, right, 701 00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:32,720 Speaker 5: because it's it's sentiment and the presence or otherwise of 702 00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:36,040 Speaker 5: a point two five cut. And I think he's going 703 00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:38,800 Speaker 5: to try, you know, whichever way he goes on that, 704 00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:42,400 Speaker 5: you know, the ultimate outcome in terms of interest rate track, 705 00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:44,960 Speaker 5: I don't think will be that much difference in practice. 706 00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:46,240 Speaker 2: Is this a bulls up. 707 00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:50,920 Speaker 5: I think, well, I think it's trying to fix the 708 00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:54,080 Speaker 5: balls up that that was there a couple of years ago. 709 00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:57,160 Speaker 5: Absolutely not unique to the New Zealand Reserve Bank, by 710 00:32:57,200 --> 00:33:00,520 Speaker 5: the way, but I think the world said or banks 711 00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:03,080 Speaker 5: got together and talked too much and ballsed up the 712 00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:06,400 Speaker 5: second half of the COVID response. Absolutely, And that's why we're. 713 00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:08,760 Speaker 2: For a little bit of commentary yesterday suggesting this monetary 714 00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:10,920 Speaker 2: committee doesn't help what we need of votes. Would you 715 00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:11,960 Speaker 2: agree with that or not? 716 00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:17,800 Speaker 5: I think you know, we're getting into the USI of 717 00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:21,560 Speaker 5: how they talk around the table. He could have votes, 718 00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:24,600 Speaker 5: but I don't think in practice it will make much difference. 719 00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:26,120 Speaker 5: It's a small committee. 720 00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:28,960 Speaker 2: Okay, if he goes today, does he not have to 721 00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:31,440 Speaker 2: go again and again. Isn't that the theory that once 722 00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:34,080 Speaker 2: you start, you've said it's done, we've done enough, Off 723 00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:36,160 Speaker 2: we go, as opposed to well I'll do some now 724 00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:38,320 Speaker 2: and I might come back another day. That doesn't look right, 725 00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:38,600 Speaker 2: does it. 726 00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:42,400 Speaker 5: Well, he's got he's got to worry about two things. 727 00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:45,800 Speaker 5: On the on the on the potential for resurgion inflation, 728 00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:49,560 Speaker 5: this non tradable inflation, which basically comes back a lot 729 00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:55,480 Speaker 5: to wage rates, and he'll be worried about igniting interest 730 00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:59,400 Speaker 5: and increased wages. When I say increase wages, so that's 731 00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:04,360 Speaker 5: inflationary increase rather than a productivity increase. And he'll be 732 00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:09,359 Speaker 5: worried about the housing market. So kiwis are great at 733 00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:12,640 Speaker 5: buying houses. We've been really quiet for the last two years, 734 00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:16,600 Speaker 5: last year in a bit, and he will be worried 735 00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:17,919 Speaker 5: to do boy to say, all right, well we're away, 736 00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:20,439 Speaker 5: let's rush out and buy some houses off each other 737 00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:22,680 Speaker 5: and push up house prices and feel good and start 738 00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:26,279 Speaker 5: spending money again and go too far. So I think 739 00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:29,000 Speaker 5: that's why I think he'll be if he even does 740 00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:30,759 Speaker 5: a cut. If they do a cut today, I think 741 00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:32,960 Speaker 5: they'll still be quite hawkish because they will be worried 742 00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:36,200 Speaker 5: about people just saying, oh, it's all over now, we 743 00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:37,560 Speaker 5: just go back to what we were doing before. 744 00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:40,280 Speaker 2: Exactly Jesus. It's interesting. Doesn't Stephen appreciate time as always? 745 00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:43,480 Speaker 2: Former Finance Minister Stephen Joyce eleven past seven pask average. 746 00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:46,319 Speaker 2: Of course, this afternoon he related to this. Every time 747 00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:48,600 Speaker 2: the tourism stats release, we're reminded yet again of how 748 00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:50,879 Speaker 2: far short of where we need to be we actually are. Visit. 749 00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:54,720 Speaker 2: The arrivals are still seventeen percent down on pre pandemic levels. 750 00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:57,200 Speaker 2: This is back twenty nineteen, for goodness sake. There's some 751 00:34:57,280 --> 00:34:59,439 Speaker 2: growing angst as well around the cost of visas. Visas 752 00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:00,919 Speaker 2: are going up to the hundred and forty one dollars 753 00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:03,240 Speaker 2: visitors visa. That is, that's up by sixty one percent. 754 00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:06,439 Speaker 2: Tourism Holdings Incorporated CEO Grant Webster back, will this Grant, 755 00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:09,359 Speaker 2: very good morning to you. And you if you were 756 00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:12,160 Speaker 2: to guess where the tourism market is that from your 757 00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:14,560 Speaker 2: expertise and experience, would you say it is still down 758 00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:16,640 Speaker 2: on COVID you can seal it, see it, feel it. 759 00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:20,319 Speaker 17: Oh well and truly yeah, yeah, I mean we've seen 760 00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:22,839 Speaker 17: some good growth men, there's some growth still to come. 761 00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:26,880 Speaker 17: And the fear is definitely that we're losing competitiveness on 762 00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:28,000 Speaker 17: a global basis. 763 00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:29,759 Speaker 2: Well, and they just said that because, I mean, we've 764 00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:32,480 Speaker 2: all talked about China, but China's an individual story. Australia 765 00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:34,600 Speaker 2: is at eighty six percent of what it was a 766 00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:37,440 Speaker 2: Britain seventy three percent. Why aren't we attractive? 767 00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:39,080 Speaker 14: Well? 768 00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:41,160 Speaker 17: I think I think part of it is there is 769 00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:43,560 Speaker 17: the marketing dollar, right I mean, if you look at 770 00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:47,719 Speaker 17: tourism Australia and take the three big states New South Wales, Victoria, Queensland, 771 00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:52,400 Speaker 17: they combined have got around eight hundred million and spend. 772 00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:55,560 Speaker 17: So that's that's that's on a per capita basis, that's 773 00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:57,920 Speaker 17: like fifty percent more than us in New Zealand, and 774 00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:00,799 Speaker 17: we are less than one percent, well less than one 775 00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:04,120 Speaker 17: percent market share and tourism on a global basis. So 776 00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:07,520 Speaker 17: we've got to be more competitive. We've got to invest, 777 00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:09,719 Speaker 17: we've got to get our money out there and show 778 00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:12,600 Speaker 17: what we're about and get people back. It's not going 779 00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:15,160 Speaker 17: to just happen, which is the sense I have at 780 00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:18,240 Speaker 17: the moment that people think, oh it's okay things, people 781 00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:19,520 Speaker 17: will just come exactly. 782 00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:22,160 Speaker 2: So your argument is if we told the story, we're 783 00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:24,200 Speaker 2: still good enough to get the people here. It's just 784 00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:26,400 Speaker 2: we're not telling the story, as opposed to even if 785 00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:27,920 Speaker 2: we told the story, they don't want to come anyway. 786 00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:31,120 Speaker 17: Well, I think I think tours of my view, Tourism 787 00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:33,480 Speaker 17: New Zealand is doing a good job of telling the 788 00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:36,080 Speaker 17: story with what they've got. They need some more. But 789 00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:40,880 Speaker 17: more importantly, right at the moment, we've seen a removal 790 00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:43,920 Speaker 17: of funding for events and events of what kept winter 791 00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:46,800 Speaker 17: alive apart from ski obviously, you know, we've seen issues 792 00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:48,799 Speaker 17: with the cruise industry for next year with boats not 793 00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:52,560 Speaker 17: coming through at the same extent. And then what we've 794 00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:55,759 Speaker 17: seen is, as you said, visitors costs going up, visa 795 00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:59,720 Speaker 17: visitors going up, working holiday visas going up even more, 796 00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:03,440 Speaker 17: and threats of IBL So it's time to put the 797 00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:06,440 Speaker 17: foot on the throat or not on the throat, and 798 00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:09,480 Speaker 17: let's let's fuel the tourism industry, not block it. 799 00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:12,439 Speaker 2: So you argue the visa thing is material, it would 800 00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:13,920 Speaker 2: make a difference to people's decision. 801 00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:18,520 Speaker 17: It does. Demanding Leicester City at the border is real. 802 00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:21,960 Speaker 2: Wow. See I'd argue differently based on the fact that 803 00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:24,160 Speaker 2: the dollars and the toilet. Therefore, I mean, you take 804 00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:25,880 Speaker 2: your forty eight forty nine US cents and you can 805 00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:27,840 Speaker 2: get here. I mean that's not bad going. Are we 806 00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:29,080 Speaker 2: too expensive. 807 00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:33,400 Speaker 17: At the border when we look at other countries removing 808 00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:36,360 Speaker 17: visa costs and when we look at the relativity of 809 00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:40,719 Speaker 17: New Zealand to other competing destinations, that's the point. They're 810 00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:42,799 Speaker 17: not just going to come and pay whatever they look 811 00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:45,480 Speaker 17: and compare just as we do around the world, right, 812 00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:48,480 Speaker 17: and so it does make a difference. We end up 813 00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:50,640 Speaker 17: being four or five hundred dollars more expensive than we 814 00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:52,800 Speaker 17: were last week, and it makes a difference. 815 00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:55,680 Speaker 2: Good insight. Grant appreciate it very much. I'm wrong. I 816 00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:57,959 Speaker 2: apologize for that. I wouldn't have thought it was a major, 817 00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:00,239 Speaker 2: but clearly it isn't. He's an expert and I'm not so. 818 00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:02,440 Speaker 2: I we'll need to talk to Erica Stanford, who's behind 819 00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:03,960 Speaker 2: all of that, of course, but when you look at 820 00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:05,799 Speaker 2: the numbers, Australia eighty six percent of what it was, 821 00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:09,000 Speaker 2: Britain seventy three percent, China fifty five, they're their own story. 822 00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:11,440 Speaker 2: The only people who are playing the ball or playing 823 00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:13,200 Speaker 2: the game of the US who are back to one 824 00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:15,319 Speaker 2: hundred and three percent and twenty nineteen, as I keep 825 00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:18,480 Speaker 2: reminding you, is now five years each and every year 826 00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:21,839 Speaker 2: twenty nineteen, twenty twenty three, twenty five. We're losing each 827 00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:24,360 Speaker 2: and every year. And it was our second, if not 828 00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:28,840 Speaker 2: our biggest, foreign income earner. Fifteen past seven. 829 00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:33,960 Speaker 1: The Mike Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered 830 00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:34,960 Speaker 1: by News Talks. 831 00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:37,600 Speaker 2: At b seventeen past seven. So the band aid for 832 00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:40,239 Speaker 2: the power crisis seems to be this deal between methodics 833 00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:43,200 Speaker 2: and contact and genesis, so methodics basically and a closer 834 00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:46,160 Speaker 2: operation to locksover sell their guest at the power companies. Anyway, 835 00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:48,719 Speaker 2: the Major Electricity Users Group chair John Harborder is with 836 00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:49,160 Speaker 2: us on this. 837 00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:51,160 Speaker 5: John Morning, Good morning. 838 00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:54,040 Speaker 2: It's it a little bit band aid, Yeah, I mean. 839 00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:56,400 Speaker 14: I think it's definitely a short term solution like to 840 00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:59,120 Speaker 14: help us get it through the current situation we're in, 841 00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:01,400 Speaker 14: but obviously it doesn't address any longer term issues we 842 00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:03,880 Speaker 14: have with energy supply or the electricity market. 843 00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:06,160 Speaker 2: And as part of that announcement yesterday, the coal side's 844 00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:08,880 Speaker 2: being bumped up as well as coal readily available gets 845 00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:10,640 Speaker 2: here quick enough and we can fire up hunt lead 846 00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:11,400 Speaker 2: to full capacity. 847 00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:15,080 Speaker 14: We're certainly importing large amounts of coal at the moment. 848 00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:19,200 Speaker 14: We've exhausted a number of our sort of domestic stock 849 00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:21,640 Speaker 14: pile of coal, so we are having to import it 850 00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:24,239 Speaker 14: in pretty large amounts. But the ports seem to be 851 00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:26,800 Speaker 14: coping with it really well, so pretty relaxed on that front. 852 00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:28,719 Speaker 2: Is ling G going to be a thing at all? 853 00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:30,440 Speaker 2: From the government's point of view, Is anything in that 854 00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:31,799 Speaker 2: department going to happen to you know or. 855 00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:34,040 Speaker 14: Not, well if I don't know, but I think the 856 00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:36,400 Speaker 14: government will be looking at all options. And people in 857 00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:38,520 Speaker 14: the market or in the sector have been looking at 858 00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:41,040 Speaker 14: LNG as an option for a few years now, so 859 00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:42,880 Speaker 14: I would imagine the government's looking at it. 860 00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:47,040 Speaker 2: So will this deal announced yesterday fix us spring arrives, 861 00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:49,520 Speaker 2: demand goes down and we're through it for another winter? 862 00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:51,040 Speaker 2: Is that fair or a bit simplistic? 863 00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:56,359 Speaker 14: I think that's overly optimistic. Mic. There's no guarantee we're 864 00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:59,040 Speaker 14: going to get an influx of rain in the hydro lakes. 865 00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:02,640 Speaker 14: We certain that will be the case, and longer term 866 00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:05,560 Speaker 14: as well. Simply, our gas fields have less gas in 867 00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:08,040 Speaker 14: them than we thought, and that's not a short term 868 00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:10,759 Speaker 14: solution to that. We've either got to explore more and 869 00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:13,280 Speaker 14: find more, or we're going to have to import it. 870 00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:16,319 Speaker 14: It's one of sort of the weird things about being 871 00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:18,759 Speaker 14: more and more reliant on wind and solar is that 872 00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:22,120 Speaker 14: actually makes you more and more reliant on gas and coal. Exactly, 873 00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:24,080 Speaker 14: you use less of the gas and coal, but you 874 00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:26,800 Speaker 14: need it even more. And that's the crunks we're facing 875 00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:27,320 Speaker 14: right now. 876 00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:30,080 Speaker 2: Are methodics stiffing us? I mean, they say it's going 877 00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:32,399 Speaker 2: to increase their income on Q three Q four, which 878 00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:34,640 Speaker 2: indicates to me that they've sold it to us at 879 00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:37,480 Speaker 2: a rate that they can't sell it internationally. Yes, they're 880 00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:38,680 Speaker 2: laughing all the way to the bank. 881 00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:42,600 Speaker 14: Well coman, I think I imagine the benefiting from it. 882 00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:47,040 Speaker 14: But I think also it's important to realize that we 883 00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:50,880 Speaker 14: absolutely need method X to do what they've done, alongside 884 00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:53,960 Speaker 14: a range of other things. So you've got the aluminium 885 00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:56,680 Speaker 14: smelter at Tea Wy for instance, has substantially reduced its 886 00:40:56,719 --> 00:41:01,200 Speaker 14: production to free up electricity. You've had transpower freeing up 887 00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:04,399 Speaker 14: the reserves we keep in the hydro lakes were times 888 00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:07,080 Speaker 14: of emergency. So when you combine sort of those three 889 00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:11,200 Speaker 14: things across, that will actually make I think a pretty 890 00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:12,600 Speaker 14: good difference over the next few months. 891 00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:14,920 Speaker 2: Good stuff. John presciat the Insight, John Harbor, who's the 892 00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:17,480 Speaker 2: major electricity users group, So we don't have enough power, 893 00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:22,279 Speaker 2: everyone's leaving, the tourist aren't arriving. 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Firstly, the 914 00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:22,920 Speaker 2: tourism that we've been talking about yet again reminds me 915 00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:25,320 Speaker 2: how when I was asking well and excess of a 916 00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:27,480 Speaker 2: year ago, where the hell all the people were? No 917 00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:30,040 Speaker 2: one seemed to care or hear me. Fast forward eighteen months, 918 00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:31,840 Speaker 2: with the number stuck at about eighty percent of what 919 00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:33,960 Speaker 2: they were five years ago. The industry, I read now, 920 00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:36,840 Speaker 2: is but worried. Why weren't they worried when I was worried? 921 00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:39,080 Speaker 2: Why does it take so many so long to wake 922 00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:41,319 Speaker 2: up to what's actually staring them in the face. But 923 00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:44,600 Speaker 2: they're not as bad as the migration figures also out yesterday. 924 00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:47,680 Speaker 2: We are still leaving this country in record numbers. I 925 00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:51,120 Speaker 2: mean overall we are gaining people, yes, but the people 926 00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:53,360 Speaker 2: are coming in from China and Dafiji and the Philippines, 927 00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:55,239 Speaker 2: which is not being racist at all, but it is 928 00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:58,680 Speaker 2: questioning just what sort of skills they're bringing. How great 929 00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:01,480 Speaker 2: is the cultural balance being effect by us leaving in 930 00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:03,680 Speaker 2: them arriving. The reason I hate the departure numbers so 931 00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:07,760 Speaker 2: much is severalfold one. They're mainly the young. Not good 932 00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:10,919 Speaker 2: for our future too. It isn't stopping. I mean, having 933 00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:14,480 Speaker 2: people scarper isn't new, but having them scarper continually for 934 00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:17,480 Speaker 2: such a long period is Places like Wellington are being 935 00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:20,439 Speaker 2: hollowed out as the young leave, but the arrivals land 936 00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:23,120 Speaker 2: in places like Auckland. So overall we're not replacing like 937 00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:25,799 Speaker 2: with like. But the thing that irks me most is 938 00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:29,799 Speaker 2: the credibility issue. We look like crap, We look like 939 00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:32,680 Speaker 2: a bad party, We look like Nigel Nomades. Our rep 940 00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:36,320 Speaker 2: is rubbish. New Zealanders look around month after month after 941 00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:38,839 Speaker 2: month after month and say, you know what, I don't 942 00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:41,239 Speaker 2: want to be here anymore. I don't like it here. 943 00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:43,920 Speaker 2: I like it over there, and over there is mainly Australia, 944 00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:46,440 Speaker 2: of course, and I've never liked losing to Australia. I mean, 945 00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:49,359 Speaker 2: I don't mind people leaving. I don't mind competing. It's 946 00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:51,520 Speaker 2: free and open world. But I think that is part 947 00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:55,200 Speaker 2: of the issue. Are we competing? Are we competitive as 948 00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:59,360 Speaker 2: a country? What do we actually offer? What's compelling about 949 00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:02,560 Speaker 2: New Zealand and twenty twenty four see numbers don't lie. 950 00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:06,680 Speaker 2: Immigration is often driven by the wanderlust of youth. This 951 00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:09,920 Speaker 2: is more than wanderlust. This is dislike. This is no future, 952 00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:14,120 Speaker 2: this is despair. We are bleeding and people are talent, 953 00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:17,560 Speaker 2: and our talent's leaving of all the damage Laboured did 954 00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:21,719 Speaker 2: to this country forcing its young people out might historically 955 00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:25,240 Speaker 2: be shown to be the most ruinous thing of all 956 00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:28,719 Speaker 2: husky my grant Webster's half right. New Zealand's not good 957 00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:30,879 Speaker 2: value anymore. Five hundred dollars for a crappy three star 958 00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:33,040 Speaker 2: hotel in Queenstown and peak Sea's and huge cost of 959 00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:36,680 Speaker 2: activities and meals. David, You're actually wrong on that in 960 00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:39,680 Speaker 2: the sense Queenstown's above. COVID's the only place in the country. 961 00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:42,799 Speaker 2: It's above, so it's doing better one than everywhere else 962 00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:44,720 Speaker 2: in the country, but two than it did in COVID. 963 00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:47,960 Speaker 2: So people are flocking to Queenstown. Price or not my 964 00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:51,120 Speaker 2: cosit the tourism presentation yesterday and WHYITANGI they've decided to 965 00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:53,880 Speaker 2: start focusing on non peak times instead of peak times. 966 00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:56,800 Speaker 2: When are we so far behind and facing and increased 967 00:44:56,840 --> 00:44:59,960 Speaker 2: tourism landing charges for international visitors? Why change to an 968 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:03,200 Speaker 2: improven approach not unproven the trans seasonal approach, as I 969 00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:04,719 Speaker 2: see in the program a couple of weeks ago, when 970 00:45:04,719 --> 00:45:06,640 Speaker 2: they announced that there's nothing new in that they've done 971 00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:09,439 Speaker 2: it before. They're trying to turn the same old trick new. 972 00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:13,080 Speaker 2: I've got garage carpet Mike and my garages and workshops 973 00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:15,880 Speaker 2: in my last four houses. It's as essential as a 974 00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:18,400 Speaker 2: nice beer and a good wine. If I had to, 975 00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:21,920 Speaker 2: I'd drop the house carpet and stay with it in 976 00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:23,080 Speaker 2: my man's areas. 977 00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:26,799 Speaker 10: I don't know that went weird at the end there, 978 00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:29,320 Speaker 10: I see, Ik, I also serve a people about growing 979 00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:30,680 Speaker 10: their own fruit and vegetables. 980 00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:30,920 Speaker 5: Mike. 981 00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:33,520 Speaker 2: That's an astonishing number, wasn't it. Did you not find 982 00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:34,480 Speaker 2: that number astonishing? 983 00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:36,239 Speaker 10: Did you find it astonishingly low? 984 00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:38,840 Speaker 2: Or large? I thought it was way higher than I 985 00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:41,799 Speaker 2: would have guessed. But what a number? What a what 986 00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:44,560 Speaker 2: a tease, Glenn. I think we'll have to extrapolate that 987 00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:46,640 Speaker 2: out a little bit further after the news, which is 988 00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:48,360 Speaker 2: next here, news talks. 989 00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:55,560 Speaker 1: The breakfast show You can trust the Mic Hosking breakfast. 990 00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:58,640 Speaker 3: With the range rover. The law designed to intrigue and 991 00:45:58,800 --> 00:45:59,239 Speaker 3: use togs. 992 00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:02,640 Speaker 2: That'd be this ikea survey that we've hooked into this 993 00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:04,919 Speaker 2: morning with the ninety three percent of garage carpets around 994 00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:07,479 Speaker 2: the country. So, just to be fair to them, don't 995 00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:09,520 Speaker 2: shoot me the messenger. I'm just report. This is just 996 00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:11,560 Speaker 2: a piece of reportage. They've gone around the country. This 997 00:46:11,719 --> 00:46:15,799 Speaker 2: sample size, isn't I wouldn't have thought particularly high they've 998 00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:17,680 Speaker 2: got five or six hundred people, but they have gone 999 00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:20,160 Speaker 2: round to the people. As Lynn's pointed out, it's an Auckland, 1000 00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:23,800 Speaker 2: Wellington and christ judge. Broadly speaking, it's designed to inform 1001 00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:26,120 Speaker 2: them as to where we're at with our houses, what 1002 00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:29,000 Speaker 2: we think of our houses, what's in our houses, how 1003 00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:31,400 Speaker 2: they should stock the New Zealand Ikea shops, all that 1004 00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:33,960 Speaker 2: sort of stuff. Anyway, a couple of critical things I 1005 00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:36,080 Speaker 2: haven't come to yet. No will in a moment. But 1006 00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:39,120 Speaker 2: his reference to vegetables, I've just done it on the Boss, 1007 00:46:39,160 --> 00:46:41,480 Speaker 2: and I like doing it on the Boss. No one's 1008 00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:43,280 Speaker 2: more out of touch with the real world than Jason. 1009 00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:44,720 Speaker 2: So I said, how much. 1010 00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:47,239 Speaker 10: It's weird because you know, you think it's you, and 1011 00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:49,799 Speaker 10: then and then you talk to him always and you go, oh, man, 1012 00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:50,680 Speaker 10: so normal. 1013 00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:54,879 Speaker 2: Exactly. So I said to Jace, I said, Jace, I said, 1014 00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:56,719 Speaker 2: how many people you can grow their own vegetables? And 1015 00:46:56,760 --> 00:46:59,239 Speaker 2: he said twenty, which is not a bad guess I would. 1016 00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:01,280 Speaker 2: I guess it would be the guests of most people. 1017 00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:03,440 Speaker 2: Most people are going twenty to thirty. And then I 1018 00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:05,879 Speaker 2: said wrong, and he went ten, and I went wrong. 1019 00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:08,160 Speaker 2: He goes the other way. I said, yes, and it 1020 00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:12,400 Speaker 2: is thirty five percent. So, in other words, in excess 1021 00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:15,720 Speaker 2: of a third of us grow vegetable. 1022 00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:18,239 Speaker 10: I mean that doesn't mean that you're growing all your vegetables. 1023 00:47:18,680 --> 00:47:20,920 Speaker 10: You're not, you know, the good lifing it out there. No, no, no, 1024 00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:23,520 Speaker 10: But I've got a chili plant, beautiful. 1025 00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:26,279 Speaker 2: You're not counted one pot with a chili pe. Yeah, 1026 00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:28,160 Speaker 2: saying so if I asked you, do you grow your 1027 00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:29,600 Speaker 2: own vegetables, you'd say yes. 1028 00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:32,000 Speaker 10: But it has a massive effect on our meals when 1029 00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:34,120 Speaker 10: I put those slice those fresh chilies in there. 1030 00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:36,319 Speaker 2: Okay, I'm now starting to call bs on the server. 1031 00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:40,759 Speaker 2: Twenty two minutes away from eight Politics Wednesday for Late 1032 00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:43,799 Speaker 2: Mark Mitchell Jinny Anderson. Meantime, the much telegraphed shake up 1033 00:47:44,239 --> 00:47:47,040 Speaker 2: of Marie government departments has finally been revealed sort of, 1034 00:47:47,080 --> 00:47:49,320 Speaker 2: the Government's looking to streamline the functions of the Office 1035 00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:52,960 Speaker 2: for Marie Crown Relations and the Ministry for Marie Development 1036 00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:55,520 Speaker 2: down The Marorray Crown Relations Minister is, of course Tima Potuka, 1037 00:47:55,560 --> 00:47:57,239 Speaker 2: who is with us. A very good morning to you. 1038 00:47:58,239 --> 00:48:00,040 Speaker 13: It's got a mic and it's a beautiful gay and 1039 00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:01,480 Speaker 13: cntiquetd Or Hamilton. 1040 00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:04,719 Speaker 2: I Reckon is it actually been announced or has this 1041 00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:07,600 Speaker 2: sort of been leaked in by a thousand cuts through 1042 00:48:07,680 --> 00:48:09,080 Speaker 2: leaked emails and stuff like that. 1043 00:48:10,239 --> 00:48:13,920 Speaker 13: Bo, there's been a bit of distribution prior to the 1044 00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:16,800 Speaker 13: announcement that we've announced it. We're really focused on supporting 1045 00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:19,720 Speaker 13: Mati economic and social success and dealing to treaty claims. 1046 00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:21,840 Speaker 2: So is this about efficiencies? Essentially? 1047 00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:23,080 Speaker 5: It is. 1048 00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:25,560 Speaker 13: There's a bit of confusion and a bit of duplication 1049 00:48:25,600 --> 00:48:27,839 Speaker 13: across the public sector in these matters, but we're really 1050 00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:30,040 Speaker 13: focused on making sure we get mighty developments from a 1051 00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:31,399 Speaker 13: government perspective back gone track. 1052 00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:34,759 Speaker 2: Okay, So the Office of Maori Crown Relations only deal 1053 00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:35,640 Speaker 2: with treaty. 1054 00:48:35,320 --> 00:48:38,399 Speaker 13: Settlements, right, That's what we want to happen. It's out 1055 00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:40,640 Speaker 13: of the TV office to deal with treaty sentiments and 1056 00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:44,000 Speaker 13: tuckery time warn or customary marine title issues and then 1057 00:48:44,040 --> 00:48:46,920 Speaker 13: to putting Corkey get up for future focus around economic 1058 00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:48,680 Speaker 13: and social developments and other matters. 1059 00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:52,160 Speaker 2: Given that, as you explain, it makes perfect sense why 1060 00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:53,200 Speaker 2: the angst. 1061 00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:56,080 Speaker 13: Ah there's a lot of concern with what's been going 1062 00:48:56,120 --> 00:48:58,720 Speaker 13: on the context of how we're engaging on treaty related 1063 00:48:58,719 --> 00:49:01,440 Speaker 13: and MARY issues don't pretty firm and certainly, and my 1064 00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:04,000 Speaker 13: soundings with EU and Marty leaders throughout the country, they 1065 00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:07,600 Speaker 13: want their confusion sorted. They don't want ambiguity in this space, 1066 00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:09,480 Speaker 13: and neither do our New Zealanders generally. 1067 00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:12,319 Speaker 2: Are their job losses involved, Well, it's a. 1068 00:49:12,360 --> 00:49:14,719 Speaker 13: Matter to be dealt with with Public Service Commissioner and 1069 00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:17,200 Speaker 13: the chief executives. What's really clear to me is that 1070 00:49:17,239 --> 00:49:19,120 Speaker 13: there is a little bit of duplication. But if I 1071 00:49:19,239 --> 00:49:22,759 Speaker 13: look at all the credible, positive, successful marti businesses and 1072 00:49:23,160 --> 00:49:26,080 Speaker 13: social services providers and say, okay, how can we really 1073 00:49:26,120 --> 00:49:28,200 Speaker 13: supercharge them to do the jobs that they need to do. 1074 00:49:28,480 --> 00:49:30,760 Speaker 13: And in the meantime said all the outstanding treaty claims 1075 00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:32,800 Speaker 13: like napoo and more chiparts here. 1076 00:49:32,840 --> 00:49:35,480 Speaker 2: Right when you say NAPOOI, it just it triggers me. 1077 00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:38,400 Speaker 2: How long are we going to have treaty settlements going for? 1078 00:49:39,680 --> 00:49:43,160 Speaker 13: Well, there are some outstanding courses lead about seventy percent, 1079 00:49:43,239 --> 00:49:46,600 Speaker 13: but the historic ones we really want to deal with 1080 00:49:46,640 --> 00:49:48,920 Speaker 13: them within the next five or six years. But Miss 1081 00:49:48,920 --> 00:49:50,680 Speaker 13: Goldsmith ultimately in charge of that matter. 1082 00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:53,799 Speaker 2: Indeed, but it seems odd that fifty years on from 1083 00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:56,560 Speaker 2: the White Tangi Tribunal, we're still sitting here talking about 1084 00:49:56,600 --> 00:50:01,000 Speaker 2: and having infrastructure funded by the taxpayer to argue over 1085 00:50:01,080 --> 00:50:03,800 Speaker 2: treaty settlements that probably should have been settled twenty thirty 1086 00:50:04,080 --> 00:50:05,120 Speaker 2: or forty years ago. 1087 00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:08,840 Speaker 13: Well, that's part part of why we're really focused on 1088 00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:11,719 Speaker 13: making sure this office, the Office of Mighty Crown Relations, 1089 00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:14,800 Speaker 13: is really dedicated to dealing to the remaining treaty settlements 1090 00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:17,240 Speaker 13: so then we can get on into that future development 1091 00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:21,120 Speaker 13: space that I'm so enthusiastic about, and with gdppre capital, 1092 00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:22,440 Speaker 13: which is where we need to be. 1093 00:50:22,640 --> 00:50:24,440 Speaker 2: Right, what do you reckon the Reserve Bank's going to 1094 00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:24,880 Speaker 2: do today? 1095 00:50:26,040 --> 00:50:29,400 Speaker 13: Oh, no comment, no comment. I have a mortgage, so 1096 00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:30,399 Speaker 13: let's see how that goes. 1097 00:50:30,600 --> 00:50:32,400 Speaker 2: Okay, have you got carpet any garage? 1098 00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:37,719 Speaker 13: Carbon carpet carpet? No, No carpet in my garage you had? 1099 00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:39,719 Speaker 2: Have you ever had a carpeted garage? 1100 00:50:40,480 --> 00:50:42,279 Speaker 13: No, I've never had one of those, and sometimes I 1101 00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:43,279 Speaker 13: even had a garage either. 1102 00:50:43,400 --> 00:50:45,680 Speaker 2: Well, there you go. If I asked you what percentage 1103 00:50:45,719 --> 00:50:49,439 Speaker 2: of garages in this country are carpeted, what would you say? 1104 00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:52,480 Speaker 13: One out of six. 1105 00:50:52,719 --> 00:50:57,800 Speaker 2: Ninety three plus ninety three percent are carpeted. Are carpeted? 1106 00:50:58,680 --> 00:51:01,359 Speaker 13: I'm in the lucky seven percent. Good. 1107 00:51:01,640 --> 00:51:03,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, it has to talk to you Tom A Tammer potaka, 1108 00:51:03,560 --> 00:51:06,480 Speaker 2: who's the married Crown relations minister. We're going to have 1109 00:51:06,520 --> 00:51:11,440 Speaker 2: to get ikere on. I think I even I don't 1110 00:51:11,480 --> 00:51:14,799 Speaker 2: see the ninety three percent as a real number. I 1111 00:51:14,840 --> 00:51:16,400 Speaker 2: see the thirty five percent is a bit of a 1112 00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:18,000 Speaker 2: surprise on the fruit vigul. We's a better hit a 1113 00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:20,200 Speaker 2: sting here, Glenn, just to just to keep the program 1114 00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:24,440 Speaker 2: of Scared we Go. Renovations we see are lengthy and expensive. 1115 00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:28,080 Speaker 2: I'd agree with that, So let's work through this this 1116 00:51:28,440 --> 00:51:32,160 Speaker 2: thing they've done. Forty three percent of us want to 1117 00:51:32,160 --> 00:51:34,280 Speaker 2: be able to use our home to bring an extra income. 1118 00:51:34,360 --> 00:51:37,240 Speaker 2: So what we're talking about is rental apartment subdividing our land, 1119 00:51:37,719 --> 00:51:42,400 Speaker 2: converting spare rooms downstairs, conversions granny flats into Airbnb's, that 1120 00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:44,080 Speaker 2: sort of stuff. So forty three percent of us want 1121 00:51:44,080 --> 00:51:45,759 Speaker 2: to do that. Now, that doesn't indicate we are just 1122 00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:47,560 Speaker 2: says we want to, So that doesn't sort of mean anything. 1123 00:51:47,560 --> 00:51:50,040 Speaker 2: As far as I can work out. Fifty nine percent 1124 00:51:51,080 --> 00:51:54,280 Speaker 2: of us say our home, our home is our favorite place. 1125 00:51:56,000 --> 00:51:58,520 Speaker 2: That's nice, isn't It's a good sign. Eighty eight percent 1126 00:51:59,040 --> 00:52:01,120 Speaker 2: have crowded entrance with That was my other figure that 1127 00:52:01,160 --> 00:52:03,680 Speaker 2: I found most fascinating. Eighty eight percent of our entrance 1128 00:52:03,719 --> 00:52:04,400 Speaker 2: ways are crowded. 1129 00:52:04,520 --> 00:52:07,439 Speaker 10: Why we've got a fish that lives an area. 1130 00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:09,719 Speaker 2: Well's see, that's your fault, isn't it. 1131 00:52:09,760 --> 00:52:11,960 Speaker 10: So that's definitely I feel like it's too crowded every 1132 00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:12,600 Speaker 10: time I go down there. 1133 00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:14,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, no fish looking at me. That's a poor decision 1134 00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:15,239 Speaker 2: on your part. 1135 00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:18,080 Speaker 10: Basically, I don't know that I necessarily made that decision. 1136 00:52:18,239 --> 00:52:22,359 Speaker 2: Forty eight percent have challenges in kitchen storage. Half half 1137 00:52:22,360 --> 00:52:25,000 Speaker 2: of us have challenges in kitchen storage. That just means 1138 00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:29,040 Speaker 2: we have too much crap, doesn't it, bags, coats, hats, prams, keys. 1139 00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:32,440 Speaker 2: That's why your entranceway because that's what you dump in 1140 00:52:32,480 --> 00:52:36,800 Speaker 2: the entrance way and fish, So bags, coats, fish, hats, prams, keys, 1141 00:52:36,920 --> 00:52:41,040 Speaker 2: no obvious place to go. Dream renovations A kitchen storage 1142 00:52:41,040 --> 00:52:42,719 Speaker 2: is the big frustration, not only in the kitchen, but 1143 00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:44,880 Speaker 2: also the bathroom. Thirty one percent of people struggle with 1144 00:52:44,920 --> 00:52:47,000 Speaker 2: storage in the kid's bedroom. It's because your kids got 1145 00:52:47,040 --> 00:52:50,800 Speaker 2: too much crap. Ninety three percent of garages are carpeted, 1146 00:52:52,160 --> 00:52:55,919 Speaker 2: that's what it says. Thirty five percent grow vegetables, fifty six. 1147 00:52:56,080 --> 00:52:58,000 Speaker 2: This is the other number that really actually, I'll tell 1148 00:52:58,040 --> 00:52:59,279 Speaker 2: you this one after the break. This is the one 1149 00:52:59,280 --> 00:53:01,239 Speaker 2: that blew my mind. Sixteen to eight. 1150 00:53:02,760 --> 00:53:07,280 Speaker 1: The Mike Hosking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered 1151 00:53:07,280 --> 00:53:08,000 Speaker 1: by the News Talks. 1152 00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:11,280 Speaker 2: It'd be here we go, Mike. I owned Skyline Garages. 1153 00:53:11,760 --> 00:53:13,920 Speaker 2: In our nearly seventy years of business and over one 1154 00:53:13,960 --> 00:53:16,960 Speaker 2: hundred thousand buildings constructed, I've never heard of a customer saying, now, 1155 00:53:17,040 --> 00:53:20,600 Speaker 2: let's talk about garage carpet. That's Skyline. You can't argue 1156 00:53:20,600 --> 00:53:21,200 Speaker 2: with Skyline. 1157 00:53:21,760 --> 00:53:23,920 Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, yeah, But just because you don't have it 1158 00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:25,680 Speaker 10: when the garage is built doesn't even make count. 1159 00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:29,080 Speaker 2: Yeah I did. I did my last more exactly, Mike. 1160 00:53:29,160 --> 00:53:31,760 Speaker 2: Most likely ninety three percent of new builds with garages 1161 00:53:31,800 --> 00:53:33,799 Speaker 2: are choosing carpet for the garage. Ninety three percent of 1162 00:53:33,800 --> 00:53:37,319 Speaker 2: all is nonsense. Well look you take on, Ike, don't 1163 00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:40,000 Speaker 2: don't blame me. It's like it's like I've started something here. 1164 00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:42,000 Speaker 2: It's not my fault, Mike. I've been in real estate 1165 00:53:42,040 --> 00:53:45,120 Speaker 2: for over thirty years in Wellington. No way even fifty 1166 00:53:45,160 --> 00:53:47,320 Speaker 2: percent of garages a carpeted. No Wellington, I wouldn't be 1167 00:53:47,320 --> 00:53:49,000 Speaker 2: surprised because a lot of garages are a bit weird 1168 00:53:49,040 --> 00:53:51,080 Speaker 2: and Wellington with the steps up on a house in 1169 00:53:51,120 --> 00:53:53,799 Speaker 2: Garory had a house down there had a garage down 1170 00:53:53,800 --> 00:53:55,640 Speaker 2: the bottom. Certainly wasn't carpet it because I ate eight 1171 00:53:55,680 --> 00:53:57,800 Speaker 2: hundred stars to get up to the house, Mike Bull crap, 1172 00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:02,520 Speaker 2: I'm a real estate agent. No way, even forty percent 1173 00:54:02,560 --> 00:54:04,880 Speaker 2: have carpet in the garage. And that's even generous. Wags 1174 00:54:05,360 --> 00:54:07,839 Speaker 2: in your wags, right, I. 1175 00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:09,480 Speaker 10: Think it's a blip. It's a blip, isn't it? Like 1176 00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:13,319 Speaker 10: any survey, especially of that size. It's five hundred and six. 1177 00:54:13,600 --> 00:54:16,440 Speaker 2: People know you're going it's a statistical era. Yeah. 1178 00:54:16,640 --> 00:54:20,520 Speaker 10: I'm not questioning the fact that of those people, ninety 1179 00:54:20,520 --> 00:54:22,040 Speaker 10: three percent of them hair garage carpet. 1180 00:54:22,040 --> 00:54:23,440 Speaker 17: I'm sure that's that. It was true. 1181 00:54:23,560 --> 00:54:25,000 Speaker 2: They just have an unusual sample. 1182 00:54:25,080 --> 00:54:25,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah. 1183 00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:27,520 Speaker 2: Or maybe in the taypo and the press release it's 1184 00:54:27,520 --> 00:54:31,160 Speaker 2: actually thirty nine nine point three Yeah, could be. Here's 1185 00:54:31,160 --> 00:54:34,160 Speaker 2: the number that really blew me away. Fifty six percent 1186 00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:39,040 Speaker 2: prefer to air dry over half the country. It's a 1187 00:54:39,280 --> 00:54:41,920 Speaker 2: clothes line, Sam, Sam's looking at me, game. What's that? 1188 00:54:42,160 --> 00:54:43,839 Speaker 2: It's a closed line, Sam? Look up here? 1189 00:54:43,880 --> 00:54:46,560 Speaker 10: Sam, just Jack reaches it. He just checks the clothes 1190 00:54:46,560 --> 00:54:48,279 Speaker 10: out and puts a new new set on. 1191 00:54:48,960 --> 00:54:52,359 Speaker 2: Rips a t shirt off, unpacks another one, and Mum 1192 00:54:52,400 --> 00:54:54,320 Speaker 2: minds them still too, doesn't she, which is nice. Of 1193 00:54:54,760 --> 00:54:58,960 Speaker 2: fifty nine fifty six percent prefer to air dry. But 1194 00:54:59,080 --> 00:55:01,120 Speaker 2: for that, and this is why I'm calling BS on 1195 00:55:01,200 --> 00:55:04,239 Speaker 2: this as well. For this, you need a dryer, No, 1196 00:55:04,320 --> 00:55:06,560 Speaker 2: you don't. You need a washing line? And how many 1197 00:55:06,560 --> 00:55:09,000 Speaker 2: people actually have a washing line? Have the ability of 1198 00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:10,600 Speaker 2: a washing line? Or if we all gone out and 1199 00:55:10,600 --> 00:55:13,120 Speaker 2: bought a clothes horse, well. 1200 00:55:13,719 --> 00:55:16,680 Speaker 10: No, most people have close horses, don't they would they 1201 00:55:16,719 --> 00:55:18,920 Speaker 10: have a close horse. But also, just because you prefer 1202 00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:20,160 Speaker 10: to do it, doesn't mean that you are. 1203 00:55:20,239 --> 00:55:22,080 Speaker 2: That's it, And that's the other point. I think that 1204 00:55:22,080 --> 00:55:22,600 Speaker 2: that's perfect. 1205 00:55:22,680 --> 00:55:25,640 Speaker 10: We'd all prefer to have a lovely air dried towel 1206 00:55:25,719 --> 00:55:26,080 Speaker 10: or shit. 1207 00:55:26,600 --> 00:55:28,880 Speaker 2: But would we prefer Adrian or to cut the interest 1208 00:55:28,960 --> 00:55:29,400 Speaker 2: rate today? 1209 00:55:29,480 --> 00:55:29,680 Speaker 6: Yes? 1210 00:55:29,760 --> 00:55:32,400 Speaker 2: We would. Is it going to happen? Not necessarily? I 1211 00:55:32,400 --> 00:55:34,319 Speaker 2: think that's the I way of looking things, isn't it? 1212 00:55:34,400 --> 00:55:35,680 Speaker 2: Ten minutes away from eight. 1213 00:55:36,400 --> 00:55:41,000 Speaker 1: On My Costal Breakfast with Bailey's Real Estate News dogsby. 1214 00:55:41,160 --> 00:55:44,200 Speaker 2: From mus Skimmer is one of new Zealand's leading sports administrators. 1215 00:55:44,239 --> 00:55:46,920 Speaker 2: Of course, former Black six captain Sport New Zealand Chief executive. 1216 00:55:46,920 --> 00:55:50,280 Speaker 2: He's got a new job to use sport to achieve 1217 00:55:50,280 --> 00:55:53,600 Speaker 2: government objectives, whether it be politically, economic or social. Peder 1218 00:55:53,640 --> 00:55:56,600 Speaker 2: Mus skimmers with us. Peter. Morning to you, Mike. How 1219 00:55:56,640 --> 00:55:58,319 Speaker 2: are you very well? Indeed are you just back from 1220 00:55:58,360 --> 00:56:03,600 Speaker 2: the Olympics am and did you in your new capacity 1221 00:56:03,719 --> 00:56:04,520 Speaker 2: achieve anything? 1222 00:56:05,600 --> 00:56:06,520 Speaker 13: Yeah, there was a lot. 1223 00:56:06,600 --> 00:56:07,239 Speaker 5: Clearly. 1224 00:56:08,440 --> 00:56:12,680 Speaker 23: I think our performance in Paris just reinforced just the 1225 00:56:13,680 --> 00:56:16,480 Speaker 23: international currency that we have at the moment in terms 1226 00:56:16,480 --> 00:56:19,400 Speaker 23: of respect for us and what we do, and so 1227 00:56:19,440 --> 00:56:23,319 Speaker 23: we're able to use that and provide opportunities where we 1228 00:56:23,360 --> 00:56:26,719 Speaker 23: could host a lot of you know, dignitaries from overseas 1229 00:56:26,719 --> 00:56:30,080 Speaker 23: to build that government government relationships. You know, companies in 1230 00:56:30,160 --> 00:56:33,040 Speaker 23: New Zealand using the New Zealand House as a platform 1231 00:56:33,080 --> 00:56:36,640 Speaker 23: to host their customers and suppliers. So using these sorts 1232 00:56:36,680 --> 00:56:39,040 Speaker 23: of events to leverage in a way that as more 1233 00:56:39,080 --> 00:56:42,040 Speaker 23: to New Zealand both you know, economically and politically. 1234 00:56:42,280 --> 00:56:45,239 Speaker 2: And how do you literally do that in your job 1235 00:56:45,360 --> 00:56:47,640 Speaker 2: as opposed to anyone just putting on an event at 1236 00:56:47,760 --> 00:56:49,640 Speaker 2: New Zealand House, having a bunch of athletes they were 1237 00:56:49,680 --> 00:56:50,480 Speaker 2: and having a good time. 1238 00:56:51,360 --> 00:56:54,080 Speaker 23: Well that that that can be done. But the idea here. 1239 00:56:54,000 --> 00:56:55,359 Speaker 13: Is to be very deliberate about it. 1240 00:56:55,360 --> 00:56:58,839 Speaker 23: It's working across government and finding where, you know, which 1241 00:56:58,840 --> 00:57:01,080 Speaker 23: are the markets, which are their companies that we want 1242 00:57:01,120 --> 00:57:04,120 Speaker 23: to target, and providing the opportunity for those people to 1243 00:57:04,160 --> 00:57:07,040 Speaker 23: actually do that. And when you start looking at offshore 1244 00:57:07,080 --> 00:57:10,040 Speaker 23: events like the Olympic Games, but they're also on shore 1245 00:57:10,080 --> 00:57:12,640 Speaker 23: events like we've had in the FIFA Women's World Cup, 1246 00:57:12,680 --> 00:57:14,839 Speaker 23: you know sal GP. There are so many of these 1247 00:57:14,880 --> 00:57:17,360 Speaker 23: where All Blacks are going to be touring us and 1248 00:57:17,800 --> 00:57:20,400 Speaker 23: you know the Black Caps will be in India. Anytime 1249 00:57:20,400 --> 00:57:23,440 Speaker 23: when there's an opportunity where our lead athletes are performing, 1250 00:57:23,840 --> 00:57:26,440 Speaker 23: is an opportunity that we can attract the people that 1251 00:57:26,480 --> 00:57:30,080 Speaker 23: we want in a hosting environment, in a relaxed, informal 1252 00:57:30,160 --> 00:57:32,920 Speaker 23: environment where without a tie and all the officials around, 1253 00:57:33,080 --> 00:57:36,120 Speaker 23: we can actually build those relationships, those people to people relation. 1254 00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:37,960 Speaker 2: What do they not do that themselves? Not trying to 1255 00:57:37,960 --> 00:57:39,360 Speaker 2: do you out of a job, but when the All 1256 00:57:39,400 --> 00:57:42,040 Speaker 2: Blacks go to San Diego, don't they take care of 1257 00:57:42,040 --> 00:57:44,640 Speaker 2: that themselves? And how do you dubtail yourself in there? 1258 00:57:44,680 --> 00:57:46,640 Speaker 2: To leap on their bandwagon, so to speak. 1259 00:57:47,400 --> 00:57:49,640 Speaker 23: Yeah, most most clearly they do. One of the things 1260 00:57:49,640 --> 00:57:51,800 Speaker 23: that we're looking at doing is how do we represent 1261 00:57:51,880 --> 00:57:54,080 Speaker 23: the New Zealand's in view? What is the New Zealand's 1262 00:57:54,080 --> 00:57:57,880 Speaker 23: story that we want to portray in those environments. How 1263 00:57:57,960 --> 00:57:59,960 Speaker 23: is it that we can bring government together as well 1264 00:58:00,520 --> 00:58:03,920 Speaker 23: and look to leverage those opportunities. Part of that is 1265 00:58:04,000 --> 00:58:07,240 Speaker 23: getting the rights to host those from our national sporting body, 1266 00:58:07,320 --> 00:58:11,120 Speaker 23: so it is working with rugby and cricket, Netborne everyone 1267 00:58:11,160 --> 00:58:15,760 Speaker 23: else to find those money can't buy moments and environments 1268 00:58:15,760 --> 00:58:18,640 Speaker 23: where we can invite people attract them to it so 1269 00:58:18,680 --> 00:58:20,720 Speaker 23: we can have the conversations that we want. 1270 00:58:20,880 --> 00:58:22,840 Speaker 2: Cool job, well done, Peter, go well well. I appreciate 1271 00:58:22,840 --> 00:58:25,760 Speaker 2: it very much. Ped Muskimmon Sports Diplomacy manager is what 1272 00:58:25,840 --> 00:58:28,160 Speaker 2: he's calling himself these days. Five minutes away from eight, 1273 00:58:28,840 --> 00:58:31,560 Speaker 2: ask Mike only from the beautiful Capity Coast, can you 1274 00:58:31,560 --> 00:58:33,760 Speaker 2: please explain why the students from the Wellington College are 1275 00:58:33,760 --> 00:58:37,160 Speaker 2: protesting about it's woke, gone woke. What it's about is 1276 00:58:37,800 --> 00:58:41,120 Speaker 2: the building according to the ministry, the school building according 1277 00:58:41,120 --> 00:58:43,760 Speaker 2: to the ministry, is it fifteen percent quake proof of 1278 00:58:43,760 --> 00:58:46,240 Speaker 2: what it should be as a result of that, the 1279 00:58:46,240 --> 00:58:48,880 Speaker 2: school weren't happy that they weren't told. The ministry says 1280 00:58:48,920 --> 00:58:52,480 Speaker 2: they were told. So there's a bit of and as 1281 00:58:52,520 --> 00:58:55,160 Speaker 2: a result of the fifteen percent, they're not happy with 1282 00:58:55,240 --> 00:58:58,440 Speaker 2: them being at school just in case there's an earthquake, 1283 00:58:58,520 --> 00:59:01,440 Speaker 2: so they've sent them home. That explains that maybe the 1284 00:59:01,520 --> 00:59:03,080 Speaker 2: entrances are cluttered with clothes, horses. 1285 00:59:03,120 --> 00:59:03,320 Speaker 14: Mike. 1286 00:59:03,520 --> 00:59:05,880 Speaker 2: It's a good point, Mike. Most new builds in Auckland 1287 00:59:05,960 --> 00:59:07,920 Speaker 2: have garage carpet. I'm a builder, seat I would have 1288 00:59:08,000 --> 00:59:11,080 Speaker 2: argued that myself. One hundred percent of houses in Flatbush, 1289 00:59:11,080 --> 00:59:14,120 Speaker 2: Auckland have carpet garages, Mike Wanting. Mike, we live in 1290 00:59:14,160 --> 00:59:17,320 Speaker 2: Dunedin where we have a six car garage, only five cars. 1291 00:59:17,600 --> 00:59:20,520 Speaker 2: It's fully carpeted, which costs three three hundred and sixty dollars. 1292 00:59:20,880 --> 00:59:23,000 Speaker 2: See that's what you get by moving to Dunedin. 1293 00:59:23,080 --> 00:59:25,080 Speaker 10: Well there's this one. We got garage carpet for health 1294 00:59:25,120 --> 00:59:27,880 Speaker 10: and safety reasons. Polish concrete was so slippery when on 1295 00:59:27,920 --> 00:59:31,439 Speaker 10: cratches or walking sticks, especially when from cars on wet days. 1296 00:59:31,520 --> 00:59:33,640 Speaker 2: Couldn't agree more. You get water, You get water on 1297 00:59:33,640 --> 00:59:36,400 Speaker 2: a painted surface. Painted surface beautiful, but you get water 1298 00:59:36,480 --> 00:59:38,040 Speaker 2: on that you back your car in there and you 1299 00:59:38,080 --> 00:59:39,880 Speaker 2: get a high heel on or in Glenn's case, a 1300 00:59:39,960 --> 00:59:40,880 Speaker 2: walking stick. 1301 00:59:41,080 --> 00:59:42,560 Speaker 10: In your case of high heel in my case of 1302 00:59:42,560 --> 00:59:43,040 Speaker 10: walking stick. 1303 00:59:43,160 --> 00:59:48,800 Speaker 2: No, then boom, you're gone, Mike. I'm anti carpet. I've 1304 00:59:48,880 --> 00:59:52,280 Speaker 2: installed a two car hoist in my six car garage. 1305 00:59:52,320 --> 00:59:55,680 Speaker 2: Oh gee, all you're doing it's a flick. It's just 1306 00:59:55,800 --> 00:59:59,160 Speaker 2: it's just man, Come on, don't I've installed a two 1307 00:59:59,320 --> 01:00:03,480 Speaker 2: car hoist in my six car garage. Good on your Brian. 1308 01:00:03,920 --> 01:00:07,280 Speaker 2: Cleaning MAGS is very easy and actually fun, and I 1309 01:00:07,360 --> 01:00:10,840 Speaker 2: epoxy painted the entire floor. But I live in Graytown, 1310 01:00:11,280 --> 01:00:14,120 Speaker 2: not one of the affluent cities. Greytown's very gentrified. Don't 1311 01:00:14,120 --> 01:00:17,720 Speaker 2: don't you start talking down Greytown politics. Wednesday after the 1312 01:00:17,760 --> 01:00:19,560 Speaker 2: news for you, the. 1313 01:00:19,680 --> 01:00:25,040 Speaker 1: Big news, bold opinions, the Mic Hosking Breakfast with Bailey's 1314 01:00:25,080 --> 01:00:29,439 Speaker 1: real Estate, your local experts across residential, commercial and rural news, 1315 01:00:29,520 --> 01:00:30,080 Speaker 1: togs d B. 1316 01:00:42,320 --> 01:00:42,720 Speaker 13: On that. 1317 01:00:44,720 --> 01:00:54,480 Speaker 3: And when starting in then I'm in looking half let it, 1318 01:00:55,440 --> 01:00:57,520 Speaker 3: waiting for the strange to. 1319 01:00:57,600 --> 01:00:58,320 Speaker 6: Coming after me. 1320 01:00:59,040 --> 01:01:02,160 Speaker 2: I've always liked this. Go amos Lee his new album 1321 01:01:02,160 --> 01:01:04,640 Speaker 2: are Da. I can't work out when his last album was, 1322 01:01:04,920 --> 01:01:08,160 Speaker 2: and it doesn't say I should ask Ikia. They didn't 1323 01:01:08,160 --> 01:01:12,480 Speaker 2: know anyway. Transmissions is the new album there are And 1324 01:01:12,520 --> 01:01:14,160 Speaker 2: if you never listened to Amos League give but give 1325 01:01:14,240 --> 01:01:16,840 Speaker 2: him a go. I think he's quite clever. Twelve tracks 1326 01:01:16,880 --> 01:01:21,480 Speaker 2: and fifty one minutes, which is probably solid value for money. 1327 01:01:21,800 --> 01:01:24,000 Speaker 2: It is eight minutes past day's type of politics Wednesday, 1328 01:01:24,000 --> 01:01:26,200 Speaker 2: which means it's Ginny Anderson and Mark Mitchell. Good morning 1329 01:01:26,280 --> 01:01:26,440 Speaker 2: to you. 1330 01:01:26,520 --> 01:01:29,600 Speaker 23: Both, Good morning, good morning by good boye Jilly. 1331 01:01:29,840 --> 01:01:32,080 Speaker 2: And a little delay on the line for you Mark, 1332 01:01:32,120 --> 01:01:33,840 Speaker 2: because you're a long way away in Dubai. Is to 1333 01:01:33,920 --> 01:01:35,760 Speaker 2: buy what what's the temperature in Dubai at this time 1334 01:01:35,800 --> 01:01:37,000 Speaker 2: of year? It would be hot, won't it? 1335 01:01:38,120 --> 01:01:41,280 Speaker 16: Yes, yeah, it's hot. It's it's midsummer. So it was 1336 01:01:41,360 --> 01:01:43,080 Speaker 16: about forty four degrees yesterday. 1337 01:01:43,480 --> 01:01:45,200 Speaker 2: And what do you do? You go outside it all? 1338 01:01:46,960 --> 01:01:48,600 Speaker 16: You go from E conditioning to eco. 1339 01:01:50,600 --> 01:01:51,000 Speaker 14: What do you do? 1340 01:01:51,080 --> 01:01:51,680 Speaker 6: You're going to go to that? 1341 01:01:52,480 --> 01:01:54,120 Speaker 24: Are you going to go that cooluarter park? What's it 1342 01:01:54,200 --> 01:01:55,120 Speaker 24: called wild Wardy? 1343 01:01:55,200 --> 01:01:56,480 Speaker 16: When you go to Worldwardy? 1344 01:01:57,280 --> 01:01:57,800 Speaker 24: That was pretty good. 1345 01:01:58,520 --> 01:02:01,479 Speaker 2: I'm sorry either, so Dore's a tell us all, Jenny, 1346 01:02:01,520 --> 01:02:02,480 Speaker 2: you've been to the water park. 1347 01:02:03,160 --> 01:02:05,160 Speaker 24: I've just seen the pictures and it looks amazing. I've 1348 01:02:05,160 --> 01:02:05,840 Speaker 24: always wanted to go. 1349 01:02:06,120 --> 01:02:08,760 Speaker 2: Okay, so you're looking out pictures of water parks, Mark, 1350 01:02:08,800 --> 01:02:09,880 Speaker 2: have you been to the water park? 1351 01:02:11,240 --> 01:02:13,360 Speaker 16: I took the kids to the wild Body water Park 1352 01:02:13,840 --> 01:02:15,520 Speaker 16: the day that we arrived from New Zealand. 1353 01:02:15,600 --> 01:02:17,600 Speaker 2: So yes, So what's it called wild Body? 1354 01:02:18,880 --> 01:02:22,200 Speaker 16: It's called wild Woddy. Yes, it's it's it's amazing water park. 1355 01:02:22,320 --> 01:02:23,960 Speaker 16: It's awesome because absolutely loved it. 1356 01:02:24,160 --> 01:02:26,240 Speaker 2: And did you have like shorts or nut crackers? What 1357 01:02:26,320 --> 01:02:26,720 Speaker 2: were you wearing? 1358 01:02:26,800 --> 01:02:26,960 Speaker 13: Mark? 1359 01:02:32,880 --> 01:02:35,560 Speaker 16: Maybe becking myself like saving days thirty years ago? 1360 01:02:35,640 --> 01:02:40,160 Speaker 2: Mike, do you think Jenny? And this is not a 1361 01:02:40,200 --> 01:02:43,200 Speaker 2: political question, but I asked the Prime Minster about this yesterday. 1362 01:02:44,360 --> 01:02:45,760 Speaker 2: Is Parliament not on enough? 1363 01:02:47,280 --> 01:02:49,440 Speaker 15: We thought that when so they you know. 1364 01:02:52,520 --> 01:02:54,840 Speaker 23: For a lot that yet we're not there as as 1365 01:02:55,000 --> 01:02:55,480 Speaker 23: they used to be. 1366 01:02:56,760 --> 01:02:59,600 Speaker 2: So so, Mark, do you understand how it works? Because 1367 01:02:59,600 --> 01:03:01,640 Speaker 2: I asking Lucks and he didn't clearly know what was 1368 01:03:01,680 --> 01:03:04,080 Speaker 2: going on. So you get three weeks after the school holidays, 1369 01:03:04,320 --> 01:03:06,640 Speaker 2: they come back for two weeks, which was your previous 1370 01:03:06,640 --> 01:03:08,320 Speaker 2: two weeks, and you're off for another week. I thought 1371 01:03:08,360 --> 01:03:10,320 Speaker 2: you had stuff to do in legislation to pass. 1372 01:03:11,920 --> 01:03:14,160 Speaker 16: No, what are you saying I heard this interview with 1373 01:03:14,240 --> 01:03:15,600 Speaker 16: you the other day. What are you say is that 1374 01:03:15,960 --> 01:03:17,760 Speaker 16: there's so many weeks a year that Parliament has to 1375 01:03:17,840 --> 01:03:21,000 Speaker 16: sit and so and we do that. Obviously we've got 1376 01:03:21,040 --> 01:03:24,400 Speaker 16: a big He bought parliament back early this year. He'll 1377 01:03:24,440 --> 01:03:25,760 Speaker 16: do it a year next year because he thinks that 1378 01:03:25,840 --> 01:03:27,920 Speaker 16: Parliament over the summer break goes away for too long. 1379 01:03:27,960 --> 01:03:31,160 Speaker 16: And I agree with him on that. But yes, we 1380 01:03:31,280 --> 01:03:33,600 Speaker 16: have got a big legislative program that we have to 1381 01:03:33,680 --> 01:03:35,680 Speaker 16: get through. The other thing that I'd say, like is 1382 01:03:35,720 --> 01:03:39,720 Speaker 16: that just because Parliament isn't sitting, you actually should be working, 1383 01:03:39,880 --> 01:03:43,080 Speaker 16: and you do work. Some people will take the time, 1384 01:03:43,200 --> 01:03:46,080 Speaker 16: like I've done, to to go and see family. I 1385 01:03:46,160 --> 01:03:48,440 Speaker 16: missed out on seeing my family at the last recess 1386 01:03:48,480 --> 01:03:50,840 Speaker 16: because we had the you know, we had that weather 1387 01:03:50,880 --> 01:03:52,720 Speaker 16: bomb come through that Hitney East coast a year with 1388 01:03:52,880 --> 01:03:56,480 Speaker 16: Hawk's Bay, Warra and Gisbone and as Emergency Management Minister, 1389 01:03:56,560 --> 01:03:58,800 Speaker 16: it was imported us on the ground making sure that 1390 01:03:58,840 --> 01:04:00,960 Speaker 16: we had a proper response and place. But you know, 1391 01:04:01,040 --> 01:04:03,040 Speaker 16: we have to take some time to see the family too, 1392 01:04:03,240 --> 01:04:04,800 Speaker 16: and that's so I'm doing this week. 1393 01:04:04,920 --> 01:04:08,240 Speaker 2: Okay, Jenny, time have used congestion charging if they get 1394 01:04:08,240 --> 01:04:09,720 Speaker 2: it up and running, and that's a bit of legislation 1395 01:04:09,800 --> 01:04:11,040 Speaker 2: they've got to pass. If they get it up and 1396 01:04:11,120 --> 01:04:13,360 Speaker 2: running before the next election and you win the next election, 1397 01:04:13,520 --> 01:04:15,160 Speaker 2: is that the sort of thing you'd keep in place 1398 01:04:15,320 --> 01:04:15,800 Speaker 2: or reverse? 1399 01:04:19,160 --> 01:04:20,640 Speaker 5: And we were support. 1400 01:04:21,960 --> 01:04:25,640 Speaker 24: It's not expose long term issue of congestion and Auckland. 1401 01:04:25,720 --> 01:04:27,640 Speaker 24: So they need to do announced as well as that. 1402 01:04:28,160 --> 01:04:32,000 Speaker 24: So if some of you think steps congestion alone is 1403 01:04:32,120 --> 01:04:35,680 Speaker 24: going to fix Auckland's traffic problem, seeing pease dreaming. 1404 01:04:35,640 --> 01:04:37,320 Speaker 2: Okay, let me get you on a better line, because 1405 01:04:37,360 --> 01:04:38,960 Speaker 2: this is hopeless. We'll do We'll come back to you 1406 01:04:39,000 --> 01:04:41,680 Speaker 2: in a moment. Mark as far as you're concerned. And 1407 01:04:41,760 --> 01:04:44,760 Speaker 2: I assume you're up with us the Police Association and 1408 01:04:44,960 --> 01:04:48,240 Speaker 2: letter open letter to the Prime Minister about Nicole McKey. 1409 01:04:48,280 --> 01:04:50,000 Speaker 2: They want you to be the gun Minister, not her. 1410 01:04:50,160 --> 01:04:52,000 Speaker 2: I assume you don't want the job, and I assume 1411 01:04:52,040 --> 01:04:54,000 Speaker 2: you'll argue that Nicole mckey's doing a decent job. 1412 01:04:55,840 --> 01:04:58,280 Speaker 16: Well when Nicole's got her role and I've got my 1413 01:04:58,440 --> 01:05:00,280 Speaker 16: role on the Minister of Police. So it's or that 1414 01:05:00,360 --> 01:05:03,400 Speaker 16: I advocate that I've moved forward from a public safety 1415 01:05:03,480 --> 01:05:06,040 Speaker 16: point of view, from a policing perspective, and she's obviously 1416 01:05:06,560 --> 01:05:09,080 Speaker 16: the Associate Minister Justice and her job is to rewrite 1417 01:05:09,080 --> 01:05:10,920 Speaker 16: the Arms Act, which she's doing. That was a coalition 1418 01:05:11,000 --> 01:05:16,200 Speaker 16: agreement she's with myself, Nicole and Chris cart and the 1419 01:05:16,240 --> 01:05:18,840 Speaker 16: Police Association are all joined by one thing and that 1420 01:05:19,000 --> 01:05:21,440 Speaker 16: is public safety and we all need to work together 1421 01:05:21,480 --> 01:05:22,480 Speaker 16: to make sure that we achieve it. 1422 01:05:22,880 --> 01:05:23,000 Speaker 13: Right. 1423 01:05:23,160 --> 01:05:25,120 Speaker 2: Is she doing a good job in your view or not? 1424 01:05:27,640 --> 01:05:30,560 Speaker 16: Yeah, absolutely, she's doing a good job. I've got a 1425 01:05:30,680 --> 01:05:34,320 Speaker 16: very good working relationship with Nicole, which I'll make sure 1426 01:05:34,360 --> 01:05:38,040 Speaker 16: that we maintain. And our focus should always be on 1427 01:05:38,200 --> 01:05:40,360 Speaker 16: public safety and we both. 1428 01:05:40,200 --> 01:05:40,680 Speaker 5: Agree on that. 1429 01:05:41,080 --> 01:05:45,120 Speaker 2: Do you share any view that the Police Association shares 1430 01:05:45,280 --> 01:05:47,760 Speaker 2: as regards her being in charge of guns and guns 1431 01:05:47,840 --> 01:05:48,280 Speaker 2: in reform? 1432 01:05:51,000 --> 01:05:54,600 Speaker 16: Look, the Police Association will take their position on things. Again, 1433 01:05:54,640 --> 01:05:56,960 Speaker 16: I've got a great working relationship with Chris Carhill and 1434 01:05:57,080 --> 01:06:00,480 Speaker 16: the Association. I'll continue to make sure that I've foster that. 1435 01:06:01,560 --> 01:06:02,760 Speaker 16: Like I said, at the end of the day, we 1436 01:06:02,880 --> 01:06:05,439 Speaker 16: might all have different views on some points, but we're 1437 01:06:05,440 --> 01:06:07,640 Speaker 16: all united by one thing and that is public safety, 1438 01:06:08,000 --> 01:06:09,480 Speaker 16: and we'll walk our way through those things. 1439 01:06:09,680 --> 01:06:11,680 Speaker 2: Do you share Ginny welcome back. Do you share the 1440 01:06:11,800 --> 01:06:14,880 Speaker 2: concerns that the Police Association have with Nicole McKee as 1441 01:06:15,080 --> 01:06:16,200 Speaker 2: being in charge of gun reform. 1442 01:06:16,720 --> 01:06:19,640 Speaker 24: Most definitely she's a gun lobbyist and now she's rewriting 1443 01:06:19,680 --> 01:06:23,760 Speaker 24: her Arms Act. The Police Association and the Police have 1444 01:06:23,920 --> 01:06:26,720 Speaker 24: raised significant concerns that she should not be the responsible 1445 01:06:26,800 --> 01:06:31,080 Speaker 24: person for making these changes for all New Zealanders and 1446 01:06:31,200 --> 01:06:32,960 Speaker 24: I think deep down Mark knows that as well. He 1447 01:06:33,040 --> 01:06:35,520 Speaker 24: thinks the Gun Registry is a good thing and act 1448 01:06:35,600 --> 01:06:36,280 Speaker 24: want to get rid of it. 1449 01:06:37,040 --> 01:06:39,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, I do pick up and you missed it, Ginny 1450 01:06:39,960 --> 01:06:41,680 Speaker 2: because you're off the line, but I do pick up 1451 01:06:41,720 --> 01:06:45,040 Speaker 2: some hesitancy Mark. You think that the Association might have 1452 01:06:45,080 --> 01:06:45,600 Speaker 2: a point. 1453 01:06:45,480 --> 01:06:49,320 Speaker 16: Or two here, No, No, I just think that in 1454 01:06:49,480 --> 01:06:51,440 Speaker 16: terms of I agree with Genny is that I think 1455 01:06:51,480 --> 01:06:54,040 Speaker 16: the Gun Redistry does have an important role to playing. 1456 01:06:54,040 --> 01:06:55,560 Speaker 16: As the Police Minister, it's important that. 1457 01:06:55,600 --> 01:06:56,360 Speaker 13: I advocate for that. 1458 01:06:57,160 --> 01:06:59,480 Speaker 16: As part of the as part of the coal listener 1459 01:06:59,520 --> 01:07:01,720 Speaker 16: agreement with that is that we said that we review 1460 01:07:01,760 --> 01:07:03,640 Speaker 16: it to make sure that's working properly and it's doing 1461 01:07:03,640 --> 01:07:06,640 Speaker 16: the right thing. And I think that's fear that. Of course, 1462 01:07:07,360 --> 01:07:10,040 Speaker 16: my position as policemens is that it does have an 1463 01:07:10,040 --> 01:07:12,160 Speaker 16: important role to play and like I said to you, 1464 01:07:12,240 --> 01:07:16,200 Speaker 16: I think that Nicole, myself and the Association are all 1465 01:07:17,360 --> 01:07:19,280 Speaker 16: joined by one thing, or all agree on one thing, 1466 01:07:19,320 --> 01:07:21,920 Speaker 16: and that is public safety in our country will always 1467 01:07:22,080 --> 01:07:23,040 Speaker 16: trump and come first. 1468 01:07:23,120 --> 01:07:24,480 Speaker 2: All right, hold on, We'll come back in a moment, 1469 01:07:24,560 --> 01:07:26,960 Speaker 2: Mark Mintchell, Ginny Anderson. It is thirteen past. 1470 01:07:27,560 --> 01:07:32,080 Speaker 1: The Mike Hosking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio, Power 1471 01:07:32,200 --> 01:07:33,240 Speaker 1: by News Talks. 1472 01:07:33,120 --> 01:07:36,040 Speaker 2: B News Talks, sixteen past aid Mark Mitchell, Ginny Anderson. 1473 01:07:36,080 --> 01:07:38,040 Speaker 2: Jinny is one of the more moderate and sensible members 1474 01:07:38,040 --> 01:07:40,360 Speaker 2: of the Labor Party caucus. As you've looked at this 1475 01:07:40,600 --> 01:07:42,640 Speaker 2: power crisis that we have in the country at the moment, 1476 01:07:42,840 --> 01:07:45,600 Speaker 2: do you think there's a twinge or tinge of regret 1477 01:07:46,440 --> 01:07:49,040 Speaker 2: anywhere within Labor that they might just to pull the 1478 01:07:49,120 --> 01:07:50,920 Speaker 2: pin on gas exploration a wee bit soon. 1479 01:07:51,720 --> 01:07:53,640 Speaker 24: I don't think so. We've been the same situation we 1480 01:07:53,760 --> 01:07:59,680 Speaker 24: are the perspective of thating. We know that we need Well, 1481 01:08:00,120 --> 01:08:01,800 Speaker 24: it had like a thirty year time for it to 1482 01:08:01,880 --> 01:08:04,080 Speaker 24: CACN like, it wouldn't have had an effect right. 1483 01:08:04,000 --> 01:08:06,919 Speaker 2: Now, chilling effect, A chilling effect. 1484 01:08:07,360 --> 01:08:09,880 Speaker 24: Not really not really. All the indicators showed that that 1485 01:08:09,960 --> 01:08:12,000 Speaker 24: would have taken a few while to CACAN. So right now, 1486 01:08:12,040 --> 01:08:13,440 Speaker 24: it wouldn't have made a lack of difference. 1487 01:08:13,560 --> 01:08:15,520 Speaker 2: So all the people who handed back their licenses and 1488 01:08:15,560 --> 01:08:18,559 Speaker 2: said no thanks, you know, the user will lose it thing, 1489 01:08:18,680 --> 01:08:20,680 Speaker 2: they all handed back their licenses. So you're telling me 1490 01:08:20,760 --> 01:08:23,559 Speaker 2: it didn't have any chilling effect whatsoever. So they still 1491 01:08:23,600 --> 01:08:26,200 Speaker 2: would have gone drilling and looking for oil and gas, 1492 01:08:26,280 --> 01:08:27,439 Speaker 2: but they just wouldn't have found any. 1493 01:08:28,080 --> 01:08:30,280 Speaker 24: Well, no, that the CACN period I think was thirty 1494 01:08:30,400 --> 01:08:32,559 Speaker 24: years for that to happen. So those licenses were still 1495 01:08:32,600 --> 01:08:34,360 Speaker 24: active and they were still using them for that period 1496 01:08:34,439 --> 01:08:36,160 Speaker 24: until they ran out. They weren't going to just stop 1497 01:08:36,240 --> 01:08:38,040 Speaker 24: making a whole bunch of money at a drilling up oil, 1498 01:08:38,560 --> 01:08:42,000 Speaker 24: drilling up gas expiration until the end of the license expired. 1499 01:08:42,040 --> 01:08:44,160 Speaker 24: And so while those licenses are still active, they're still 1500 01:08:44,160 --> 01:08:46,320 Speaker 24: getting it. So it made no difference, all right. 1501 01:08:46,400 --> 01:08:48,920 Speaker 2: So excepting that what you say is true, which I 1502 01:08:48,960 --> 01:08:50,240 Speaker 2: don't think we do, but let's say. 1503 01:08:50,160 --> 01:08:50,400 Speaker 14: It is. 1504 01:08:51,880 --> 01:08:52,360 Speaker 6: Not very much. 1505 01:08:53,439 --> 01:08:56,519 Speaker 2: Does the idea that we're importing more coal now than 1506 01:08:56,560 --> 01:08:58,759 Speaker 2: we ever have make sense? 1507 01:09:00,320 --> 01:09:02,920 Speaker 24: We need to find alternative energy sources, and the sum 1508 01:09:03,200 --> 01:09:05,840 Speaker 24: still doesn't want well, we need we need we need 1509 01:09:05,880 --> 01:09:08,080 Speaker 24: to look at more hydro for for example, that and 1510 01:09:08,200 --> 01:09:11,439 Speaker 24: where we have a dry, cold winter, we're stuffed. 1511 01:09:11,560 --> 01:09:13,679 Speaker 2: Ye, you can't build a hydro dam in this country 1512 01:09:13,720 --> 01:09:15,320 Speaker 2: because of the rm A. They won't let you do it. 1513 01:09:16,560 --> 01:09:18,200 Speaker 24: Well, we need to look into that to make sure 1514 01:09:18,200 --> 01:09:21,040 Speaker 24: we have good sources of natural energy here in New Zealand, 1515 01:09:21,080 --> 01:09:23,880 Speaker 24: and we need to invest in infrastructure to utilize that 1516 01:09:24,240 --> 01:09:26,080 Speaker 24: so that we're not kept in hand every time. 1517 01:09:26,240 --> 01:09:29,200 Speaker 2: We would you accept argue that this renewable thing isn't 1518 01:09:29,320 --> 01:09:31,080 Speaker 2: working as we city. You're right here right. 1519 01:09:31,000 --> 01:09:33,720 Speaker 24: Now, I would say, we haven't invested enough in infrastructure 1520 01:09:33,760 --> 01:09:34,680 Speaker 24: to make it work for us. 1521 01:09:35,520 --> 01:09:36,479 Speaker 2: And that's the problem, isn't it. 1522 01:09:36,520 --> 01:09:36,720 Speaker 13: Mate? 1523 01:09:38,600 --> 01:09:41,400 Speaker 16: Listen that these guys were a complete wrecking ball for 1524 01:09:41,520 --> 01:09:44,040 Speaker 16: us when it comes to come to energy policy. And 1525 01:09:44,120 --> 01:09:46,400 Speaker 16: by the way, we're already lead. We're really one of 1526 01:09:46,439 --> 01:09:49,200 Speaker 16: the leading countries of the world in terms of newable energy. 1527 01:09:49,240 --> 01:09:52,080 Speaker 16: We do extremely well here. But yes, the previous government 1528 01:09:52,160 --> 01:09:57,240 Speaker 16: started burning dirty Indonesian coal because of the because of 1529 01:09:57,240 --> 01:10:00,240 Speaker 16: their energy policy settings, and now we're having to do 1530 01:10:00,360 --> 01:10:02,200 Speaker 16: we're doing the same thing. We're having to be worn 1531 01:10:02,600 --> 01:10:06,600 Speaker 16: because we've got a shortage. Imming It's a travesty that 1532 01:10:06,680 --> 01:10:08,599 Speaker 16: we even put it that they put us in this position. 1533 01:10:08,680 --> 01:10:10,000 Speaker 16: We just can't walk our way through it. 1534 01:10:10,200 --> 01:10:11,880 Speaker 2: Just back up a minute mark. So Jenny's right. So 1535 01:10:12,080 --> 01:10:13,800 Speaker 2: say we could still look for gas and there isn't 1536 01:10:13,800 --> 01:10:15,479 Speaker 2: any guess. There isn't we're running out of guess. We 1537 01:10:15,520 --> 01:10:17,960 Speaker 2: don't have gas guesses no longer an alternative. What is 1538 01:10:18,120 --> 01:10:20,240 Speaker 2: going to fill the gap? The wind we've got doesnt 1539 01:10:20,240 --> 01:10:21,960 Speaker 2: work because the wind isn't blowing at the moment. You 1540 01:10:22,040 --> 01:10:24,000 Speaker 2: can't build the damn you know that. So what are 1541 01:10:24,040 --> 01:10:24,439 Speaker 2: we going to do? 1542 01:10:25,840 --> 01:10:27,920 Speaker 16: Well, we are going to definitely build more of wind farms, 1543 01:10:27,920 --> 01:10:33,000 Speaker 16: there's no doubt about that. A fast trick. Well you 1544 01:10:33,160 --> 01:10:36,880 Speaker 16: just talk about renewables and windows is a renewable. But 1545 01:10:37,040 --> 01:10:39,120 Speaker 16: the reality of it is this MC is there is 1546 01:10:39,280 --> 01:10:41,000 Speaker 16: enough guess for us to be able to use guests. 1547 01:10:41,000 --> 01:10:44,720 Speaker 16: It's far cleaner the know what's there. 1548 01:10:44,800 --> 01:10:47,120 Speaker 24: No one knows what's there. They're out drilling looking for it, 1549 01:10:47,240 --> 01:10:50,519 Speaker 24: so they don't know. They've got to drink it fracking 1550 01:10:50,600 --> 01:10:51,160 Speaker 24: or whatever it is. 1551 01:10:51,720 --> 01:10:55,000 Speaker 16: And well, we know this natural guess, we know this 1552 01:10:55,160 --> 01:10:58,160 Speaker 16: natural guests it, Like Mike just pointed out, you guys 1553 01:10:58,439 --> 01:11:01,439 Speaker 16: signaled to the industry that they didn't have your support 1554 01:11:01,520 --> 01:11:04,599 Speaker 16: that you're ideologically driven, and now as a country, we're 1555 01:11:04,640 --> 01:11:08,720 Speaker 16: paying extraordinarily high power prices. We're having to get the 1556 01:11:08,800 --> 01:11:11,320 Speaker 16: government the government now, the government now is going to 1557 01:11:11,439 --> 01:11:13,280 Speaker 16: is having to come up with ways of actually being 1558 01:11:13,320 --> 01:11:17,880 Speaker 16: able to make sure our energy grid can provide what 1559 01:11:18,000 --> 01:11:20,800 Speaker 16: key we need. And that is because for six years. 1560 01:11:22,160 --> 01:11:24,759 Speaker 16: That is because after six years of a labor government 1561 01:11:25,080 --> 01:11:27,040 Speaker 16: with awful energy policies, we're. 1562 01:11:26,920 --> 01:11:27,519 Speaker 14: In this position. 1563 01:11:27,560 --> 01:11:28,559 Speaker 16: We shouldn't be in this position. 1564 01:11:28,880 --> 01:11:30,720 Speaker 2: Does it just to step up? And it does it 1565 01:11:30,760 --> 01:11:33,000 Speaker 2: strike you as ironic that you're sitting in the oil 1566 01:11:33,120 --> 01:11:35,679 Speaker 2: capital of the world, surrounded by some of the richest 1567 01:11:35,720 --> 01:11:38,240 Speaker 2: people ever, and that maybe that might be the answer. 1568 01:11:38,320 --> 01:11:41,960 Speaker 16: Actually, well, I think you know, I haven't filled the 1569 01:11:42,040 --> 01:11:44,479 Speaker 16: car up. I think it's about a dollar fifty leader 1570 01:11:44,800 --> 01:11:48,800 Speaker 16: at the you know, the bearers of it. Yeah, I 1571 01:11:48,960 --> 01:11:50,960 Speaker 16: just think that does put us in an awful. 1572 01:11:50,680 --> 01:11:54,599 Speaker 24: Situation when on what's the what's your plan? 1573 01:11:56,560 --> 01:11:59,600 Speaker 16: Well, the first thing is to start actually giving the 1574 01:11:59,680 --> 01:12:03,439 Speaker 16: sect some confidence again that they can actually invest and 1575 01:12:03,520 --> 01:12:05,840 Speaker 16: they can actually go and get some natural guests for 1576 01:12:05,960 --> 01:12:09,160 Speaker 16: us to continue to use while we continue as a 1577 01:12:09,200 --> 01:12:12,360 Speaker 16: country remain committed to renewabooks. I just gave you one 1578 01:12:12,520 --> 01:12:14,400 Speaker 16: very clear example which you didn't do, and that was 1579 01:12:14,479 --> 01:12:17,400 Speaker 16: Chris Bishop's fast the ability to be able to deliver 1580 01:12:17,760 --> 01:12:22,040 Speaker 16: more wind farms. So you know, we of course right 1581 01:12:22,160 --> 01:12:27,120 Speaker 16: now though, Jenny, we are absolutely in full on crisis 1582 01:12:27,200 --> 01:12:29,759 Speaker 16: mode in New Zealand. Make sure that we can actually 1583 01:12:29,840 --> 01:12:32,120 Speaker 16: deliver the power that we need. And we shouldn't be 1584 01:12:32,120 --> 01:12:34,040 Speaker 16: in that position. We're in that position because we had 1585 01:12:34,040 --> 01:12:37,560 Speaker 16: an awful labor government that it was driven by ideological 1586 01:12:38,040 --> 01:12:41,160 Speaker 16: ideas that has been a complete reaching ball for us. 1587 01:12:41,280 --> 01:12:44,439 Speaker 2: Right listen, I appreciate it. You have a good, good 1588 01:12:44,479 --> 01:12:47,000 Speaker 2: stay in the middle Easter Mark, and we'll catch up 1589 01:12:47,040 --> 01:12:48,960 Speaker 2: with you next week, presumably back in New Zealand. Jenny 1590 01:12:48,960 --> 01:12:51,040 Speaker 2: Anderson dropped off the who put something wrong with their 1591 01:12:51,080 --> 01:12:53,000 Speaker 2: phone today? Or they could be something wrong with our phone? 1592 01:12:53,200 --> 01:12:55,000 Speaker 2: Six No, it's not eight twenty two. 1593 01:12:56,080 --> 01:13:00,400 Speaker 3: The break fast with feeder retirement communities the news to 1594 01:13:00,840 --> 01:13:01,479 Speaker 3: be now. 1595 01:13:01,479 --> 01:13:03,760 Speaker 2: As you went closer to retirement, natural to start thinking 1596 01:13:03,760 --> 01:13:06,559 Speaker 2: about the old financewers. The questions that pop up, especially 1597 01:13:06,880 --> 01:13:08,760 Speaker 2: you know, in today's cost of living crisis, how much 1598 01:13:08,760 --> 01:13:10,920 Speaker 2: am I gonna need? Have I got enough? 1599 01:13:11,479 --> 01:13:11,719 Speaker 13: Along? 1600 01:13:11,760 --> 01:13:11,920 Speaker 17: Will? 1601 01:13:11,960 --> 01:13:12,400 Speaker 13: At last? 1602 01:13:12,920 --> 01:13:15,760 Speaker 2: Pretty confronting questions of course, but you're not alone. There 1603 01:13:15,760 --> 01:13:18,160 Speaker 2: are most people's minds obviously is retirement approaches and while 1604 01:13:18,160 --> 01:13:20,679 Speaker 2: it's difficult to answer the questions very specifically, the expert 1605 01:13:20,720 --> 01:13:23,719 Speaker 2: team at Milford can help guide you in the right direction. 1606 01:13:23,840 --> 01:13:27,160 Speaker 2: So with Milford's award winning investment expertise, the focus is 1607 01:13:27,200 --> 01:13:30,599 Speaker 2: on risk management and the years of experience and financial advice, 1608 01:13:30,680 --> 01:13:32,560 Speaker 2: you can be well on your way to making the 1609 01:13:32,600 --> 01:13:34,200 Speaker 2: most of your savings. So why would you wait to 1610 01:13:34,240 --> 01:13:36,719 Speaker 2: set a learn more and to see their financial advice 1611 01:13:36,760 --> 01:13:40,000 Speaker 2: provide a disclosure statement. Here's where you go Milford Asset 1612 01:13:40,280 --> 01:13:44,240 Speaker 2: dot com slash retire well simple address. You got a 1613 01:13:44,600 --> 01:13:50,840 Speaker 2: Milford Asset dot com slash retire well pasking. By the way, 1614 01:13:50,920 --> 01:13:54,320 Speaker 2: the ComCom Commerce Commission did a little study. Remember the 1615 01:13:54,360 --> 01:13:56,960 Speaker 2: Auckland tax speaking Mark raised the cost of petrol and 1616 01:13:57,000 --> 01:13:59,920 Speaker 2: oil and lights of stuff. The tax that came off 1617 01:14:00,000 --> 01:14:02,560 Speaker 2: for Auckland. They did a test as to whether it 1618 01:14:02,680 --> 01:14:06,280 Speaker 2: was passed on. It was study split Auckland into South Aukland, 1619 01:14:06,320 --> 01:14:08,679 Speaker 2: North Aukland, Central Auckland, dis sample of fifteen to seventeen 1620 01:14:08,680 --> 01:14:11,720 Speaker 2: sebastations from each zone with gasby data for ninety one 1621 01:14:11,760 --> 01:14:13,600 Speaker 2: and diesel and they worked out. By and large the 1622 01:14:13,640 --> 01:14:17,360 Speaker 2: savings got passed on, which is good, Mike. Gas exploration, 1623 01:14:17,600 --> 01:14:20,200 Speaker 2: I'm in the industry. Ginny's talking rubbish. There's plenty of gas, 1624 01:14:20,280 --> 01:14:21,880 Speaker 2: noil up the west coast of New Zealand. Marks one 1625 01:14:21,920 --> 01:14:24,120 Speaker 2: hundred percent correct. The previous labor government signal to the 1626 01:14:24,160 --> 01:14:28,120 Speaker 2: exploration industry there was no support for gas and exploration. 1627 01:14:28,680 --> 01:14:31,120 Speaker 2: Remember to send us captain's call. Oh we do Taranaki. 1628 01:14:31,400 --> 01:14:34,360 Speaker 2: So the industry upsticks and left basically, which is true, Mike. 1629 01:14:34,439 --> 01:14:37,360 Speaker 2: Not surprising they see no issue with gas. They still 1630 01:14:37,400 --> 01:14:41,120 Speaker 2: don't understand how badly they've ruined the economy. I wonder 1631 01:14:41,120 --> 01:14:42,800 Speaker 2: if we'll be thinking about that in twenty twenty six 1632 01:14:42,840 --> 01:14:45,880 Speaker 2: when the next election comes along. Good morning, guys. We're 1633 01:14:45,920 --> 01:14:48,400 Speaker 2: putting a garage carpet down in our new house because 1634 01:14:48,600 --> 01:14:50,559 Speaker 2: I'm not allowed to put my motorbike in the lounge. 1635 01:14:51,040 --> 01:14:53,639 Speaker 2: Thank you, Brian. Mike. I've got a carport with carpet. 1636 01:14:54,240 --> 01:14:57,479 Speaker 2: It's weatherproof. First one this morning. Carport with carpet. A 1637 01:14:58,520 --> 01:15:00,320 Speaker 2: news for you in a couple of moments. Then we'll 1638 01:15:00,320 --> 01:15:04,439 Speaker 2: cross the Tasman and talk with Steve Price. News Talks head. 1639 01:15:17,520 --> 01:15:21,839 Speaker 1: Demanding the answers from the decision makers, the mic asking, 1640 01:15:21,920 --> 01:15:26,400 Speaker 1: Breakfast with a Vida, retirement, communities, life your Way, news 1641 01:15:26,479 --> 01:15:27,040 Speaker 1: talks end B. 1642 01:15:27,360 --> 01:15:29,880 Speaker 2: So it continues. Mike. Three car garage, kids left home, 1643 01:15:30,200 --> 01:15:32,839 Speaker 2: wife put carpet in, therefore her weights and CrossFit equipment. 1644 01:15:32,880 --> 01:15:36,439 Speaker 2: I have no say she's stronger than me. I think 1645 01:15:36,479 --> 01:15:37,960 Speaker 2: most of us can relate to that, can't we? 1646 01:15:38,439 --> 01:15:38,639 Speaker 3: Mike. 1647 01:15:38,720 --> 01:15:41,759 Speaker 2: I've got three garages at my house. None are carpeted, 1648 01:15:42,320 --> 01:15:45,479 Speaker 2: but I have a large kitchen, half liner, half carpet 1649 01:15:45,560 --> 01:15:48,720 Speaker 2: on which sit ten motorcycles. I'm not married, but you 1650 01:15:48,880 --> 01:15:51,920 Speaker 2: probably already figured that out. Twenty three minutes away. 1651 01:15:51,760 --> 01:15:56,080 Speaker 18: From nine International Correspondence with ins and Eye Insurance Peace 1652 01:15:56,120 --> 01:15:57,600 Speaker 18: of Mind for New Zealand business in. 1653 01:15:57,640 --> 01:16:00,840 Speaker 2: Australia, Steep Price, Very good morning to you, Michael good 1654 01:16:00,880 --> 01:16:03,000 Speaker 2: eight garage carpet at your place? Steve? 1655 01:16:04,760 --> 01:16:06,839 Speaker 5: No, Well, I would you put carpet in a garage? 1656 01:16:06,840 --> 01:16:08,720 Speaker 2: Okay? And that's been the debate this morning. So have 1657 01:16:08,880 --> 01:16:11,000 Speaker 2: you always had an uncarpeted garage? 1658 01:16:12,240 --> 01:16:15,920 Speaker 13: My father had a pool table in his garage note 1659 01:16:16,000 --> 01:16:19,280 Speaker 13: cars and a dark board, and I think he had 1660 01:16:19,640 --> 01:16:23,639 Speaker 13: a like a big rug, right, and all the blokes 1661 01:16:23,640 --> 01:16:25,840 Speaker 13: from the neighborhood would come over every night and drink beer, 1662 01:16:25,960 --> 01:16:26,960 Speaker 13: play darts in pool. 1663 01:16:27,160 --> 01:16:30,040 Speaker 2: There you go. A survey out this morning done by 1664 01:16:30,080 --> 01:16:31,760 Speaker 2: our Kia who were just setting up a big store 1665 01:16:31,760 --> 01:16:36,439 Speaker 2: in this country. What percentage of garages in this country 1666 01:16:36,479 --> 01:16:39,000 Speaker 2: do you reckon at a guess a carpeted according to 1667 01:16:39,080 --> 01:16:42,000 Speaker 2: the survey two ninety three. 1668 01:16:43,520 --> 01:16:46,360 Speaker 13: That's ridiculous. That's what's like key trying to sell carpet. 1669 01:16:46,520 --> 01:16:50,000 Speaker 2: I think that's what we've concluded somehow. Anyway, Morrison and court, 1670 01:16:50,840 --> 01:16:53,720 Speaker 2: and this is the Brittney Higgins case, the Reynolds case, 1671 01:16:54,160 --> 01:16:56,040 Speaker 2: I would imagine what he said was fairly effective. 1672 01:16:57,560 --> 01:16:59,519 Speaker 13: Yeah, look, you and I how long have we been 1673 01:16:59,520 --> 01:17:02,600 Speaker 13: talking about it was caseful and it's just extraordinary that 1674 01:17:02,680 --> 01:17:06,120 Speaker 13: it goes on. In fact, earlier this week, Senator Linda 1675 01:17:06,160 --> 01:17:09,400 Speaker 13: Renld's former defense minister in the Morrison government, admitted that 1676 01:17:09,880 --> 01:17:12,640 Speaker 13: whatever way this case goes, whether she wins in her 1677 01:17:12,680 --> 01:17:16,679 Speaker 13: defamation case loses, she will lose her house. That's where 1678 01:17:16,800 --> 01:17:19,040 Speaker 13: she's at. That's why she is so determined in this 1679 01:17:19,200 --> 01:17:22,160 Speaker 13: case to prove her point, being that she was defamed 1680 01:17:22,200 --> 01:17:26,800 Speaker 13: by Higgins and Chiraz over the handling of the rape 1681 01:17:26,840 --> 01:17:30,880 Speaker 13: allegations following the alleged rape that of course has always 1682 01:17:30,960 --> 01:17:36,040 Speaker 13: been denied by Lemon Now ex Pm Morrison people on 1683 01:17:36,160 --> 01:17:39,280 Speaker 13: video link. I mean I find that given what happened 1684 01:17:39,320 --> 01:17:42,240 Speaker 13: to this poor woman, I mean, and you know our 1685 01:17:42,280 --> 01:17:47,280 Speaker 13: sympathies with Higgins as well, why wouldn't Morrison not go to. 1686 01:17:47,320 --> 01:17:48,080 Speaker 16: Person turn up? 1687 01:17:48,120 --> 01:17:49,439 Speaker 5: I mean, I don't get that. 1688 01:17:49,600 --> 01:17:52,519 Speaker 13: Anyway, he had to keep being interrupted by the judge 1689 01:17:52,600 --> 01:17:54,840 Speaker 13: esday because he was refusing to answer questions. He was 1690 01:17:54,880 --> 01:17:58,640 Speaker 13: doing the old politician line of waffling on. But he 1691 01:17:58,760 --> 01:18:02,560 Speaker 13: did say that he believed that the Higgins rape allegations 1692 01:18:02,600 --> 01:18:06,479 Speaker 13: were weaponized to discredit him, and that during this period 1693 01:18:06,520 --> 01:18:08,120 Speaker 13: he feared for Linda Reynolds' life. 1694 01:18:08,200 --> 01:18:10,320 Speaker 16: She herself has admitted suicidal thoughts. 1695 01:18:10,880 --> 01:18:14,479 Speaker 13: So he then demoted her from defense, he says, to 1696 01:18:14,680 --> 01:18:19,160 Speaker 13: protect her health. Now, at the time when Linda Reynolds 1697 01:18:19,280 --> 01:18:25,080 Speaker 13: was done as defense minister, the then labor opposition said 1698 01:18:25,120 --> 01:18:28,679 Speaker 13: that look see what's happened. I mean, even Scott Morrison 1699 01:18:28,680 --> 01:18:30,879 Speaker 13: who doesn't believe this woman, and now she's been demoted. 1700 01:18:31,360 --> 01:18:34,200 Speaker 13: This case will go on for some weeks and as 1701 01:18:34,280 --> 01:18:36,640 Speaker 13: I said, the costs mean a lot of people are 1702 01:18:36,680 --> 01:18:40,120 Speaker 13: going to be severely financially damaged. You just wonder why 1703 01:18:40,800 --> 01:18:42,360 Speaker 13: this case had to end up in court in the 1704 01:18:42,400 --> 01:18:44,360 Speaker 13: first place, why someone couldn't settle it out of it. 1705 01:18:44,640 --> 01:18:47,360 Speaker 2: And when Adan said, if there's appeals and so it goes. 1706 01:18:47,400 --> 01:18:50,160 Speaker 2: Now that's pro Palestinian relly. So if they know this, 1707 01:18:50,320 --> 01:18:52,600 Speaker 2: eighteen hundred police required to handle it. So what have 1708 01:18:52,680 --> 01:18:54,519 Speaker 2: you got? The great democracy debate and you know the 1709 01:18:54,640 --> 01:18:55,320 Speaker 2: right to protest. 1710 01:18:57,280 --> 01:18:58,080 Speaker 5: It's extraordinary. 1711 01:18:59,200 --> 01:19:04,040 Speaker 13: I didn't even know this military organization was holding this 1712 01:19:04,240 --> 01:19:07,320 Speaker 13: rally next month in September go from September eleventh to 1713 01:19:07,360 --> 01:19:12,679 Speaker 13: thirteen min it's called the Landforces Expo. Now, I don't 1714 01:19:12,720 --> 01:19:14,680 Speaker 13: know if you remember the World Economic Forum all the 1715 01:19:14,720 --> 01:19:17,760 Speaker 13: way back in two thousand. I was in Molment at 1716 01:19:17,800 --> 01:19:23,520 Speaker 13: the time, and the scenes outside that that forum were unbelievable. 1717 01:19:23,560 --> 01:19:26,920 Speaker 13: Police on horseback, thousands of protesters. It got very violent. 1718 01:19:27,400 --> 01:19:29,719 Speaker 13: Police are predicting that it's going to be the same 1719 01:19:29,800 --> 01:19:33,639 Speaker 13: this time around. Up to twenty five thousand protests planned 1720 01:19:33,680 --> 01:19:37,479 Speaker 13: to blockade what's described as a major international military fair. 1721 01:19:37,600 --> 01:19:42,120 Speaker 13: The forty groups include Pro Palestine and TIFA, a number 1722 01:19:42,120 --> 01:19:46,559 Speaker 13: of anarchist activists. They've already began identified planning what they're 1723 01:19:46,560 --> 01:19:48,360 Speaker 13: going to do how they're going to pick it. There's 1724 01:19:48,360 --> 01:19:51,439 Speaker 13: all sorts of stuff up online. Activists to take it 1725 01:19:51,520 --> 01:19:55,720 Speaker 13: to social media urging their supporters to join the mobilization 1726 01:19:55,840 --> 01:19:59,280 Speaker 13: and shut this shiit down. It is going to be 1727 01:19:59,439 --> 01:20:03,760 Speaker 13: a complet deletely disruptive and eighteen hundred Victoria Police are 1728 01:20:03,800 --> 01:20:06,760 Speaker 13: going to be required to keep the peace, which is extraordinary. 1729 01:20:06,840 --> 01:20:09,519 Speaker 2: Unreally, did they ban the council last night all eat 1730 01:20:09,520 --> 01:20:11,800 Speaker 2: scooters they had gone? Or are their exceptions? 1731 01:20:12,800 --> 01:20:15,360 Speaker 13: No, no exceptions. They've ripped up the contracts with the 1732 01:20:15,439 --> 01:20:18,720 Speaker 13: two operators. Now this is odd because the acting Lord Mayor, 1733 01:20:18,720 --> 01:20:21,080 Speaker 13: who's standing for Lord Mayor in an election later in 1734 01:20:21,120 --> 01:20:23,280 Speaker 13: the year, was Allays a fan. He was a regular 1735 01:20:23,360 --> 01:20:26,719 Speaker 13: on my Sky TV progound, Nicholas Reese. Suddenly he's changed 1736 01:20:26,760 --> 01:20:29,360 Speaker 13: his mind because he saw that his opponents were also 1737 01:20:29,439 --> 01:20:31,719 Speaker 13: going to try and get these things banned. Council voted 1738 01:20:31,800 --> 01:20:34,080 Speaker 13: last night in a split decision. Now I don't know 1739 01:20:34,120 --> 01:20:35,920 Speaker 13: up as orplan got these things. 1740 01:20:36,560 --> 01:20:38,280 Speaker 2: Yes, well yeah, the whole one. I was going to 1741 01:20:38,320 --> 01:20:41,479 Speaker 2: say the whole country metropolitan centers do. But there's there's 1742 01:20:41,520 --> 01:20:43,880 Speaker 2: been an angsty debate and some get their licenses pulled 1743 01:20:43,920 --> 01:20:45,560 Speaker 2: and some are allowed and some come and go and 1744 01:20:45,600 --> 01:20:46,920 Speaker 2: stuff like that, but they are around. 1745 01:20:47,880 --> 01:20:51,240 Speaker 13: Well. The two operators here are Lime and Neurone, and 1746 01:20:51,439 --> 01:20:55,320 Speaker 13: councils given the companies thirty days to quote cease operations. 1747 01:20:55,360 --> 01:20:58,080 Speaker 13: I've also been told they need to retrieve all East 1748 01:20:58,080 --> 01:21:01,360 Speaker 13: scooters from across the municipality. Now that doesn't mean that 1749 01:21:01,400 --> 01:21:03,680 Speaker 13: you're not going to have these operators bob up in 1750 01:21:03,720 --> 01:21:06,840 Speaker 13: other councils. In fact, they're already in places like Port 1751 01:21:06,880 --> 01:21:10,479 Speaker 13: Phillip Council and another number of others, so they will 1752 01:21:10,600 --> 01:21:11,360 Speaker 13: still be around. 1753 01:21:11,439 --> 01:21:13,080 Speaker 5: But they are a hell of a mess. 1754 01:21:13,640 --> 01:21:17,080 Speaker 13: And if you listen to health authorities, the number of 1755 01:21:17,120 --> 01:21:20,880 Speaker 13: people turning up in emergency departments in Melbourne City, City 1756 01:21:20,920 --> 01:21:25,919 Speaker 13: of Melbourne with wrists broken and concussion. No one's wearing helmets. 1757 01:21:25,960 --> 01:21:29,280 Speaker 13: Two kids up on one scooter at one time, drunks 1758 01:21:29,360 --> 01:21:30,599 Speaker 13: ride in them and then they. 1759 01:21:30,560 --> 01:21:32,880 Speaker 16: Guess, just get dropped in the street. There's no return 1760 01:21:33,000 --> 01:21:35,600 Speaker 16: base for these things. So I think the majority of 1761 01:21:35,640 --> 01:21:37,280 Speaker 16: people probably think that's a good idea. 1762 01:21:37,120 --> 01:21:38,960 Speaker 2: Good only mate ketch up next week, appreciate it. I 1763 01:21:39,000 --> 01:21:41,759 Speaker 2: think it's a classic theory versus reality thing, the last 1764 01:21:41,880 --> 01:21:43,560 Speaker 2: mile thing. You know, you get off your bust to 1765 01:21:43,600 --> 01:21:45,080 Speaker 2: get off you train and take the last mile into 1766 01:21:45,120 --> 01:21:46,760 Speaker 2: the office. All of that in theory was fine, but 1767 01:21:46,880 --> 01:21:49,600 Speaker 2: in reality we have experienced exactly what they have just 1768 01:21:50,000 --> 01:21:53,000 Speaker 2: piss people falling off all over the place. Mike, most 1769 01:21:53,000 --> 01:21:56,880 Speaker 2: of the individual lifestyle village villas have carpeted garages. Does 1770 01:21:56,920 --> 01:21:59,080 Speaker 2: that push up the average? I don't know, Mike, Why 1771 01:21:59,120 --> 01:22:01,439 Speaker 2: can't I use the bath? He carpeted the garage now 1772 01:22:01,479 --> 01:22:04,000 Speaker 2: stores the firewood in the bark. That's not true. Seventeen 1773 01:22:04,040 --> 01:22:04,959 Speaker 2: Away from nine. 1774 01:22:06,520 --> 01:22:10,920 Speaker 1: The like asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered 1775 01:22:10,960 --> 01:22:11,960 Speaker 1: by News Talks. 1776 01:22:11,680 --> 01:22:13,840 Speaker 2: At b fourteen Away from nine didn't have time to 1777 01:22:14,160 --> 01:22:16,639 Speaker 2: deal with it directly with Steve. But the weirdest debates 1778 01:22:16,680 --> 01:22:18,920 Speaker 2: going on in Australia at the moment. The bloke who 1779 01:22:19,000 --> 01:22:21,599 Speaker 2: runs Aco, which is their sort of spy service guy, 1780 01:22:21,640 --> 01:22:23,240 Speaker 2: called Mike Burgers, So I got quite a bit of 1781 01:22:23,280 --> 01:22:26,080 Speaker 2: time for because he's quite open when he speaks publicly, 1782 01:22:26,200 --> 01:22:28,560 Speaker 2: he speaks in a language we can understand. He was 1783 01:22:28,600 --> 01:22:31,080 Speaker 2: the one who up the alert level the other day, 1784 01:22:31,120 --> 01:22:33,640 Speaker 2: comes out periodically and go, you got no idea what 1785 01:22:33,760 --> 01:22:36,360 Speaker 2: we deal with on a daily basis. They're coming for us. 1786 01:22:36,439 --> 01:22:38,800 Speaker 2: They come for us every day. We're protecting Australia like 1787 01:22:38,880 --> 01:22:44,240 Speaker 2: you've never seen it anyway, he says, rhetorical support. So 1788 01:22:44,320 --> 01:22:46,360 Speaker 2: there's a bit of angst in Australia about trying to 1789 01:22:46,439 --> 01:22:49,439 Speaker 2: drum up some sort of visa for people to come 1790 01:22:49,479 --> 01:22:51,559 Speaker 2: in from Gaza. The main problem with coming in from 1791 01:22:51,600 --> 01:22:53,679 Speaker 2: Gaza is getting out of Gaza and getting into Australia 1792 01:22:53,680 --> 01:22:56,240 Speaker 2: at the moment, the actual physical transportation. But be that 1793 01:22:56,320 --> 01:22:59,200 Speaker 2: as it may, the people want some sort of visa. 1794 01:22:59,439 --> 01:23:01,240 Speaker 2: When I say the people are the left Lands, the Greens, 1795 01:23:01,280 --> 01:23:03,479 Speaker 2: those sort of people, they want a visa for you 1796 01:23:03,600 --> 01:23:05,519 Speaker 2: to be able to come and lob into Australia. And 1797 01:23:05,640 --> 01:23:08,000 Speaker 2: of course the obvious concern as well, just because you 1798 01:23:08,040 --> 01:23:10,080 Speaker 2: come from Gaza doesn't mean you're some sort of poor, 1799 01:23:10,160 --> 01:23:13,800 Speaker 2: downtrodden Palestinian. It could well mean you Hamas. So we 1800 01:23:13,840 --> 01:23:17,760 Speaker 2: don't want those people. But he says that just having 1801 01:23:17,840 --> 01:23:22,720 Speaker 2: some sort of rhetorical support for Hamas they don't have 1802 01:23:22,800 --> 01:23:26,800 Speaker 2: an ideology or support for a violent extremism ideology, then 1803 01:23:26,920 --> 01:23:30,800 Speaker 2: that's not a problem. He says, if you give money 1804 01:23:31,720 --> 01:23:34,960 Speaker 2: to them directly or fund them in some way, no, 1805 01:23:35,120 --> 01:23:37,840 Speaker 2: you shouldn't be allowed into Australia. But if you go 1806 01:23:38,200 --> 01:23:41,439 Speaker 2: look on the whole Hamas is quite cool. I got 1807 01:23:41,479 --> 01:23:43,639 Speaker 2: a bit of time for them. They're not the worst 1808 01:23:43,680 --> 01:23:47,400 Speaker 2: people in the world, or words to that effect. He says, 1809 01:23:47,520 --> 01:23:50,960 Speaker 2: you can enter Australia, to which the Coalition go are 1810 01:23:51,400 --> 01:23:56,880 Speaker 2: you mental? But the labor government are going, eh, no, 1811 01:23:57,080 --> 01:24:04,400 Speaker 2: that's okay. So there's just a problem just begging to 1812 01:24:04,560 --> 01:24:07,720 Speaker 2: be sorted out. And yet they cannot see the wood 1813 01:24:07,800 --> 01:24:12,960 Speaker 2: for the trees for some inexplicable reason. My carpet going 1814 01:24:13,000 --> 01:24:14,720 Speaker 2: into the garage in a couple of weeks. Garages are 1815 01:24:14,760 --> 01:24:16,679 Speaker 2: no longer for housing cars. This space is to store 1816 01:24:16,720 --> 01:24:19,240 Speaker 2: equipment needed to support modern day lafstard. That is true. 1817 01:24:19,840 --> 01:24:22,200 Speaker 2: I don't subscribe necessarily to that view. 1818 01:24:22,280 --> 01:24:25,560 Speaker 10: But most people, says barn owner of Medicana. 1819 01:24:25,920 --> 01:24:28,479 Speaker 2: That's true, that's true for them. But why, I iron 1820 01:24:28,560 --> 01:24:31,760 Speaker 2: my mind separate that out. That's a recreation facility. That's 1821 01:24:32,120 --> 01:24:34,640 Speaker 2: that's not a barn, that's a recreation facility. It's like 1822 01:24:34,720 --> 01:24:37,479 Speaker 2: a club. So anyway, most New Zealanders, I think, and 1823 01:24:37,560 --> 01:24:39,000 Speaker 2: I think that's probably got something to do with the 1824 01:24:39,080 --> 01:24:40,840 Speaker 2: ninety three percent. I think it's not the carpet thing. 1825 01:24:40,880 --> 01:24:43,400 Speaker 2: I think in reality, what ninety three percent of people 1826 01:24:43,439 --> 01:24:45,080 Speaker 2: do with the garages in this country is they put 1827 01:24:45,200 --> 01:24:47,599 Speaker 2: crap in there. That's not to do with cars, Mike, 1828 01:24:48,040 --> 01:24:53,280 Speaker 2: not only garage carpet, but insulated garage door, which keeps 1829 01:24:53,320 --> 01:24:56,320 Speaker 2: my internal access garage warmer by four degrees in winter. 1830 01:24:56,760 --> 01:25:01,200 Speaker 10: I've considered that for the opposite reason. What the insulated 1831 01:25:01,200 --> 01:25:04,639 Speaker 10: garage door, because in summer keeps it cool. To keep 1832 01:25:04,680 --> 01:25:07,080 Speaker 10: it cool, that garage door is like. 1833 01:25:07,160 --> 01:25:10,200 Speaker 2: A it's an oven. It's an oven. It's an oven. 1834 01:25:10,840 --> 01:25:13,080 Speaker 10: Can I plug that into the national grid and help out? 1835 01:25:14,080 --> 01:25:16,880 Speaker 2: Just received a beautiful photo of I'm not an expert 1836 01:25:16,920 --> 01:25:18,800 Speaker 2: on American cars, so I can't help you. But it's 1837 01:25:18,800 --> 01:25:21,920 Speaker 2: a beautiful American car which is parked in the garage 1838 01:25:21,960 --> 01:25:26,240 Speaker 2: next to the Harley Davidson on a carpeted floor. But 1839 01:25:26,400 --> 01:25:31,800 Speaker 2: the car has carpet on top of the carpet. I 1840 01:25:31,960 --> 01:25:34,479 Speaker 2: love it. Ten Away from nine the. 1841 01:25:34,640 --> 01:25:37,960 Speaker 3: Mic Hosking Breakfast with the Range Rovere of the Line News. 1842 01:25:39,720 --> 01:25:41,840 Speaker 2: Did you know, Mike, roller owners need carpet in the 1843 01:25:41,880 --> 01:25:45,960 Speaker 2: garages to soak up the oil excess. All new houses 1844 01:25:46,040 --> 01:25:49,080 Speaker 2: might have garage carpet. Who wants water everywhere? When the 1845 01:25:49,160 --> 01:25:51,400 Speaker 2: cars and they're are wet and the trip has it 1846 01:25:51,479 --> 01:25:54,720 Speaker 2: on crappy concrete see as outrageous. Everyone is saying there 1847 01:25:54,800 --> 01:25:56,639 Speaker 2: is no carpet. There are people saying, of course this carpet. 1848 01:25:56,680 --> 01:25:58,720 Speaker 2: Everyone new house got a carpet. Mike put a heat 1849 01:25:58,760 --> 01:26:01,439 Speaker 2: pump in your garage. Godn't agree more. I put two 1850 01:26:01,479 --> 01:26:05,800 Speaker 2: and do that just confirm everything you thought about me? Hey? 1851 01:26:05,960 --> 01:26:06,479 Speaker 10: Pretty much? 1852 01:26:06,680 --> 01:26:09,479 Speaker 2: It's just that yep. Of course he did. Steven Away 1853 01:26:09,520 --> 01:26:10,200 Speaker 2: from nine. 1854 01:26:10,960 --> 01:26:15,600 Speaker 1: Trending now with Wims Warehouse the Real House of Fragrances. 1855 01:26:15,880 --> 01:26:18,639 Speaker 2: Okay, so here we are again. Seems hard to believe 1856 01:26:18,640 --> 01:26:20,920 Speaker 2: that twelve months have slipped by, but the Edinburgh Fringe 1857 01:26:20,960 --> 01:26:23,960 Speaker 2: Festival have the funniest joke of the Fringe Award. It 1858 01:26:24,120 --> 01:26:27,680 Speaker 2: goes viral. I've don't actually believe it goes viral, so 1859 01:26:27,880 --> 01:26:30,040 Speaker 2: it's a one liner thereafter. The winner in twenty twenty 1860 01:26:30,080 --> 01:26:33,040 Speaker 2: three was last year I was. I started dating as 1861 01:26:33,080 --> 01:26:35,840 Speaker 2: zoo keeper, but it turned out he was a cheetah 1862 01:26:36,160 --> 01:26:39,719 Speaker 2: ah exactly, so this one was the winner. In twenty 1863 01:26:39,760 --> 01:26:42,719 Speaker 2: twenty two, I tried to steal spaghetti from the shop, 1864 01:26:43,080 --> 01:26:45,479 Speaker 2: but the female guard saw me and I couldn't get 1865 01:26:45,520 --> 01:26:45,880 Speaker 2: past her. 1866 01:26:46,240 --> 01:26:46,519 Speaker 17: Wow. 1867 01:26:46,680 --> 01:26:47,440 Speaker 13: Wow. 1868 01:26:47,680 --> 01:26:49,360 Speaker 2: So that's twenty two twenty three, So that's what we're 1869 01:26:49,400 --> 01:26:51,599 Speaker 2: lining up for. So twenty twenty four the finalist star 1870 01:26:51,680 --> 01:26:55,120 Speaker 2: as follows my desire to spontaneously sing the line sleeps 1871 01:26:55,120 --> 01:26:59,160 Speaker 2: tonight is always a whim away. It's not bad. I 1872 01:26:59,280 --> 01:27:02,200 Speaker 2: fail religious education, couldn't believe it. When I found out. 1873 01:27:02,320 --> 01:27:06,160 Speaker 2: I was like, Jason Christ, that's pretty good. That's a 1874 01:27:06,200 --> 01:27:09,960 Speaker 2: winner already in my mind. My girlfriend told me she's 1875 01:27:10,040 --> 01:27:12,640 Speaker 2: never seen the film Gaslight. I told her, yeah, you have. 1876 01:27:13,160 --> 01:27:17,360 Speaker 2: We watched it together. It's not bad. That's a joke 1877 01:27:17,439 --> 01:27:20,000 Speaker 2: for the times. I feel it's a joke for the times. 1878 01:27:20,040 --> 01:27:20,960 Speaker 2: It reads the mood of the room. 1879 01:27:21,000 --> 01:27:21,160 Speaker 3: Well. 1880 01:27:21,479 --> 01:27:25,599 Speaker 2: I recently read ten percent of Sheep a gay turns 1881 01:27:25,640 --> 01:27:30,400 Speaker 2: out there's not so queer as flock. Turns out there's 1882 01:27:30,439 --> 01:27:34,439 Speaker 2: not so queer as flock. Quite like that one. How 1883 01:27:34,479 --> 01:27:37,840 Speaker 2: do you know that Edinburgh is the most haunted city 1884 01:27:37,920 --> 01:27:40,760 Speaker 2: in the UK. You measure it with a spirit level? 1885 01:27:42,560 --> 01:27:46,200 Speaker 2: That's great, having done those last three, that pales and 1886 01:27:46,240 --> 01:27:50,800 Speaker 2: do insignificance. My Auntie's Indian German and a terrible human being. 1887 01:27:50,920 --> 01:27:55,240 Speaker 2: She's the curry worst. She's a curry person. She's the 1888 01:27:55,320 --> 01:28:00,920 Speaker 2: curry Wurdna. We shouldn't have put those three in before 1889 01:28:01,000 --> 01:28:03,840 Speaker 2: those two, should we. I don't like it. I don't 1890 01:28:03,920 --> 01:28:06,960 Speaker 2: like when a casinos house rules. It's got a little 1891 01:28:07,000 --> 01:28:10,000 Speaker 2: bit boring for me in the last season. I don't 1892 01:28:10,120 --> 01:28:13,519 Speaker 2: like when a casino house that one as well. I 1893 01:28:13,640 --> 01:28:17,360 Speaker 2: don't like when a casinos his house rules. It got 1894 01:28:17,439 --> 01:28:19,639 Speaker 2: a little boring for me in the last season. 1895 01:28:19,760 --> 01:28:22,840 Speaker 10: See that that's not even a show that's on TV. 1896 01:28:22,920 --> 01:28:25,320 Speaker 10: It's like they they've been doing that joke since House 1897 01:28:25,439 --> 01:28:26,280 Speaker 10: was actually on air. 1898 01:28:26,840 --> 01:28:28,960 Speaker 2: Our house isn't like, yeah, yeah, it's his name. 1899 01:28:29,000 --> 01:28:30,479 Speaker 10: Now you find joke. There's so much funny you when 1900 01:28:30,520 --> 01:28:31,919 Speaker 10: you had to explain them stupid. 1901 01:28:33,000 --> 01:28:35,800 Speaker 2: Oh, the Romans invented vassoline. 1902 01:28:39,880 --> 01:28:41,639 Speaker 10: You've ruined that now, because you know what, the most 1903 01:28:41,680 --> 01:28:43,320 Speaker 10: important thing about comedy is timing. 1904 01:28:44,520 --> 01:28:47,559 Speaker 2: The Romans invented vasoline or was it the ancient Greece? 1905 01:28:48,000 --> 01:28:55,000 Speaker 2: Ancient Greece? And then you've cocked it up the Romans. 1906 01:28:55,280 --> 01:28:58,559 Speaker 2: The Romans invented wessoline or was it ancient Greece? 1907 01:28:59,400 --> 01:28:59,559 Speaker 3: Yet? 1908 01:28:59,640 --> 01:29:04,120 Speaker 2: No, very very good. But the winner, I can't believe 1909 01:29:04,120 --> 01:29:06,400 Speaker 2: it is one of those. Aren't the winners? They're fantastic. 1910 01:29:06,400 --> 01:29:11,080 Speaker 2: The winner was I call myself the Yorkshire Shakira. Her 1911 01:29:11,160 --> 01:29:13,640 Speaker 2: lips don't lie and mine don't faf about. 1912 01:29:15,040 --> 01:29:15,400 Speaker 3: What that is. 1913 01:29:15,800 --> 01:29:16,360 Speaker 2: I don't get that. 1914 01:29:17,240 --> 01:29:19,920 Speaker 10: I don't could have helped if hadn't done a typo 1915 01:29:20,080 --> 01:29:20,599 Speaker 10: on the script. 1916 01:29:20,720 --> 01:29:24,439 Speaker 2: Oh no, what's the typo faft about about? I call 1917 01:29:24,520 --> 01:29:28,479 Speaker 2: myself the Yorkshire Shakira. Her lips don't lie about her. 1918 01:29:28,680 --> 01:29:30,240 Speaker 17: Hepstone her. 1919 01:29:32,920 --> 01:29:33,160 Speaker 16: God. 1920 01:29:36,280 --> 01:29:43,639 Speaker 2: So we definitely while we were such a crap show, Okay, 1921 01:29:44,439 --> 01:29:46,639 Speaker 2: well let's us. Thank god, it's well, it's nine o'clock. 1922 01:29:46,720 --> 01:29:51,840 Speaker 2: So fortunately every single one of us individually made a 1923 01:29:51,880 --> 01:29:53,599 Speaker 2: dick of ourselves this morning. It didn't we. I mean 1924 01:29:53,640 --> 01:29:56,080 Speaker 2: often it's just me, but this morning everyone came to 1925 01:29:56,120 --> 01:29:59,760 Speaker 2: the party. On man Back tomorrow morning from six or 1926 01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:01,960 Speaker 2: possibly not actually happy days. 1927 01:30:04,840 --> 01:30:09,960 Speaker 3: We are, we Are, we Are, We Are Lucky. 1928 01:30:10,160 --> 01:30:15,080 Speaker 1: Works for more from the Mic Asking Breakfast, Listen live 1929 01:30:15,240 --> 01:30:18,080 Speaker 1: to News Talks it B from six am weekdays, or 1930 01:30:18,200 --> 01:30:20,040 Speaker 1: follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.