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Speaker 1: bless bless bless good busy early, didn't I Jesus. It's

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Speaker 1: the seventeenth of the Nights in the Year of Our

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Speaker 1: Lord twenty twenty four. Welcome all you bespoke, you donkeys

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Speaker 1: to the Daily Bespoke podcast. We've got Christian Cullen on

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Speaker 1: the show today. Kelly, one of the greatest fullbacks of

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Speaker 1: all time, also played at Center Didney for the All

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Speaker 1: Blacks at one point.

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Speaker 2: Well let's not talk about that. That was for the

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Speaker 2: disastrous nineteen ninety nine World Cup.

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Speaker 1: The man can cut through a defense like a knighte

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Speaker 1: through batter, honey.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he cut through defenses like the Pantsman, The Notorious

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Speaker 2: Pantsman Joel Harrison cut a sway through the ins in me.

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Speaker 3: Like a couple of.

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Speaker 1: Iron Maiden Fansy my maiden there, Yep, sure, the Maiden something.

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Speaker 2: We're going to have a photo. What we're going to

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Speaker 2: do is I'm assuming we're going to have a photo

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Speaker 2: take in here, which is going to be quite unusual. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: you know what, we're going to stand up against the.

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Speaker 3: You boys could go and say hi or that's blood.

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Speaker 2: I love to, but it's just we've got to do

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Speaker 2: this podcast unfortunately, and Christian you've got.

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Speaker 1: Christian calling in them. And I want to promote my

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Speaker 1: substackt mad He's got substack dot com writing Humiliation the

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Speaker 1: Tuesday Morning Calumn out now made substeckt dot com.

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Speaker 3: You might have to get it in by the window

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Speaker 3: here for this. So have we seen there's guys outside

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Speaker 3: with a photo.

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Speaker 4: We're looking for a photo be.

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Speaker 3: Really dangerous to get the minute, would wouldn't it? It

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Speaker 3: would be really Yeah? Good point from those guys right on.

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Speaker 2: I like those guys.

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Speaker 3: I like them like they just prayed like sleep I

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Speaker 3: think that I feel like I've slept.

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Speaker 2: They look like sleepers to me.

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Speaker 1: Tell you, you shift a lot of T shirts at

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Speaker 1: an Iron Maiden concert, don't you?

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Speaker 1: Fuck you shift a lot of T shirts at an

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Speaker 1: Iron Maiden.

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Speaker 2: Iron made them were Iron Maid and T shirts when

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Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, it's interesting the band that has its own

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Speaker 1: T shirt? Do they do seven sharp tshirts?

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Speaker 1: Would kill you toss seven sharp cap?

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Speaker 3: You want one? Yeah? Yeah, yeah? Sure.

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Speaker 4: Are they still making those replica hello Berry panties? They

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Speaker 2: The boxes has worn like I wear them and then

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Speaker 2: wre do TV and did run a gift shop in it?

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Speaker 1: Can you like the sea? They don't do? Do they

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Speaker 2: Actually, the tours of the newsroom generally are auctioned off

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Speaker 2: So I chatted to the security guy, Ian, who's been

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Speaker 2: And laziness Ian, That's exactly what it was.

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Speaker 1: Me and Ian is in sinkers two four ladies flatting together.

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Speaker 2: I was called a ramper.

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Speaker 4: And Joe Ridell facilities over the TV and Z.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Ian, I felt and you know, I didn't ever

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Speaker 1: NZ me like that, Like every every brand like Pardeki

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I'm always want because I actually read

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Speaker 1: doesn't check their doesn't check their accounts, that doesn't have

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Speaker 3: Of that kind of thing.

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Speaker 1: It just says to them like, I expect you to

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Speaker 1: I mean. So he's like, if someone's taking someone out

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Speaker 1: to hire a lot of people that are looking in

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Speaker 1: at inwood into the company. Yeah, he wants everyone looking outward.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well that would that would make sense in the

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Speaker 2: media company, Yeah, because your job is to send stuff out.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 1: But there becomes There's this great paper that was written

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Speaker 1: called bullshit Jobs, and I was talking about how the

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Speaker 1: bigger a company gets, the more bullshit jobs that are employed,

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Speaker 1: it's sort of a cancer that gets into companies. So

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Speaker 1: But be like me going up to Meshy and going, hey,

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Speaker 1: We had an example of this when a guy came

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Speaker 2: Well, in that situation, it turned out that that person

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Speaker 2: I'm going to get them to change it for you.

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Speaker 2: And he was like, no, you don't need to change it.

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Speaker 2: I'm fine with it.

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Speaker 3: Because then that guy to Thread and said, and Thread,

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Speaker 3: I love those.

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Speaker 2: Guys that he still he's still attempted to change it

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Speaker 2: That he'd completely fabricated the entire thing. It was very strange,

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Speaker 2: thought it was weird. That's an interesting insight into that

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Speaker 1: What is the goal there? I can see how you

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because you've just got to come up with stuff,

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Speaker 3: Please see what you think of this tune?

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Speaker 6: You on.

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Speaker 7: Get a guys, look at his bike.

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Speaker 1: Like your guys. My mom said, it's cool.

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Speaker 7: No, Morris, it's not cool.

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Speaker 3: We've given you a girl's bike.

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Speaker 3: Steadler Who's a tea bag?

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Speaker 6: That was?

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Speaker 1: Well, we couldn't do the bowl cut because we didn't

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Speaker 3: Well, I'll tell you what.

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Speaker 2: Not I'm not just saying that. I'm not evening just

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't use this forum to promote my own ship.

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Speaker 3: No, why would you?

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Speaker 2: Why would you do that?

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Speaker 4: You know, I was just thinking that I should I

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Speaker 3: Yeah, this would be big.

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Speaker 4: I've got no jokes sid that there's a platform that

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Speaker 3: Maybe I should start Let's start a substack mate and

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Speaker 3: what and write about what? Just write about your experiences

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Speaker 3: with Jay Wells.

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Speaker 4: Why not just like slightly creepy, kind of handy ones.

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Speaker 2: I think go back to something something more practical, something

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Speaker 6: Man? She?

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Speaker 3: Do you reckon? There's anything you could.

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Speaker 1: Do on only Fans that I would subscribe to.

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Speaker 2: No, I don't know if I don't really know something

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Speaker 2: some kind of track you've got up your sleeve, Lauren,

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Speaker 3: No, you are right, There's are a lot of options

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Speaker 4: I'm sure I would make plenty of money, but I'm

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Speaker 1: You don't want to get down the path of pushing

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Speaker 2: You must suff something in your bagger tracks, something in

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Speaker 3: You can share with people your magic. Why don't your

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Speaker 3: an only fans.

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Speaker 2: Here's a flescid penis. Hey, Preston, now, it's erect.

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Speaker 3: Is the thing you could get a flescid penis.

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Speaker 1: How would you get how would he get how would

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Speaker 3: Fless?

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Speaker 2: Sorry, I don't know what I was thinking that. What

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Speaker 3: It's impossible? Yeah, it's impossible.

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Speaker 2: Can we take a break and come back with Christian color.

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: I think we just want to take a ship as well.

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Speaker 3: That was triggering for me that chat because I actually

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Speaker 4: Film it from what like a kind of from a

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Speaker 8: Yep, it'll come back with Christian Coln.

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Speaker 1: We're back and my back and what I saw from

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Speaker 1: I actually don't want to pay for that. Not subscribing

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's quite freaky looking up into you, MESHI.

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Speaker 3: I'd rather not look up to you.

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Speaker 2: There's one thing I'd rather not do. Christian Callen, are

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Speaker 2: you there?

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Speaker 6: Am?

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Speaker 2: Sorry? Jeez, you had to listen to that horrific conversation

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Speaker 6: Make plenty of money though far.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's going to make some He's going to make

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Speaker 1: good coin. This's no doubt about that totally.

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Speaker 2: We don't want to talk about that sort of nonsense

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Speaker 2: with an all black. Great, that's that's not right. Welcome

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Speaker 2: to the podcast, Christian, Thank you. Where do we find

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Speaker 6: I'm just sitting in the car, just drop the kids

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, Well this thoughts impressed to Awkland us

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Speaker 3: Where was that shot?

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Speaker 6: Just off Coramandel somewhere. It was about a thirty minute boat.

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Speaker 5: Ride, sort of still still inland, but ye're quicker to

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Speaker 2: Oh okay, so really as an island as the North

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Speaker 6: A big island.

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Speaker 5: It wasn't quite Fiji Fiji or Balley or any anywhere

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Speaker 1: I think that that whole thing of doing celebrity Treasure

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Speaker 3: It's been challenging in the past.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that was the cockroach situation. Didn't need any cockroaches,

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Speaker 6: No, No, that's not my thing mate.

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Speaker 5: I'm I'm not a big outdoorsy type boshwaalkie fishing.

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Speaker 5: The things that I'm actually against what every kind of

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't like the sand.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I never would have picked you for a guy.

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Speaker 2: That didn't like the sand. That's that's quite interesting.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I like the heat. I love I love the idea.

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Speaker 6: Yet it does my head and it's.

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Speaker 2: A pretty because I would have thought the beach is

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Speaker 2: I was just looking at a picture of you here

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Speaker 6: Are you looking at a picture like from twenty years ago?

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Speaker 3: You were always famous.

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Speaker 1: You always rumors that you were you were a demon

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Speaker 5: Oh it's a good room, right so yeah, yeah you

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Speaker 5: So there were guys doing there's guys doing more weight,

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Speaker 3: No, that's buddy good because.

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Speaker 6: I could not. I could not do that.

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Speaker 3: Now well, looking back.

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00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:43,400
Speaker 2: At it, like the time that you played, the time

448
00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:45,840
Speaker 2: when when you did play for the Orbites. I watched

449
00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:48,920
Speaker 2: a game recently. It was the Blues versus the Highlanders

450
00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:53,040
Speaker 2: from nineteen ninety eight I think it was. And man,

451
00:19:53,600 --> 00:19:57,840
Speaker 2: the rugby was. It was really quick, It was intense.

452
00:19:58,119 --> 00:20:00,280
Speaker 2: There was there was no mucking around for scra so

453
00:20:00,280 --> 00:20:03,320
Speaker 2: I mean the scrum was packed down and at least

454
00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:05,880
Speaker 2: less than ten seconds every single time. It was like yep,

455
00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:08,200
Speaker 2: just knock on all right here, quick, scrumb it down

456
00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:12,159
Speaker 2: and the ball. I saw these guys flying into rucks

457
00:20:12,280 --> 00:20:14,879
Speaker 2: and I thought to myself, what the fuck are you

458
00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:17,879
Speaker 2: up to? This is this is nuts. People were flying

459
00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:21,119
Speaker 2: in from all angles, people were getting spat out of

460
00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:25,359
Speaker 2: the back with people rucking the shit out of people's backs, and.

461
00:20:24,840 --> 00:20:27,160
Speaker 3: It was It was brutal, but it was really good

462
00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:27,560
Speaker 3: to watch.

463
00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:29,680
Speaker 6: Yeah, the good old days.

464
00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:31,560
Speaker 5: I think if you're a flanker back in those days,

465
00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:33,080
Speaker 5: if you came in and had a shower, you didn't

466
00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:35,400
Speaker 5: have any rucknack ruck marks on your back. You didn't

467
00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:38,640
Speaker 5: have a good good game. So yeah, the old rest

468
00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:41,000
Speaker 5: are a bit leaning and back back then. And I

469
00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:45,119
Speaker 5: can still remember that I got tackled out wide and

470
00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:47,359
Speaker 5: something happened and it ended up being a scrum, and

471
00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:49,560
Speaker 5: I was running back to position and I turned around

472
00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:53,720
Speaker 5: and the ball was in Mercer's hands.

473
00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:55,840
Speaker 6: The scrumming form, I think.

474
00:20:56,320 --> 00:20:58,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, back then, the front row used to be a race,

475
00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:00,800
Speaker 5: a race to get to the Also, the quicker you

476
00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:01,400
Speaker 5: got there.

477
00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:03,879
Speaker 6: They yeah, you usually won the scrum.

478
00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:06,359
Speaker 5: So, yeah, she's slowed up a bit now, but I

479
00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:09,800
Speaker 5: guess they you know, I mean, sometimes it does our heading,

480
00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:11,360
Speaker 5: but I guess there's a bit of a safety thing.

481
00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:13,960
Speaker 5: And the boys are probably bigger and more powerful and

482
00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:17,280
Speaker 5: you know, a bit more a better technique. So yeah,

483
00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:19,280
Speaker 5: I guess I've got to look after But yeah, to

484
00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:21,440
Speaker 5: a certain extent, that sort of does my heading about

485
00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:23,399
Speaker 5: how long, so much less scrums.

486
00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:25,760
Speaker 1: You had so much less rest back in the day. Though,

487
00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:28,320
Speaker 1: it have a good set of much bigger set of lungs.

488
00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:29,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you had to play a full game.

489
00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:31,680
Speaker 6: That's true, that's true.

490
00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:34,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, Yeah, I mean, yeah, you do only usually get

491
00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:36,399
Speaker 5: subbed off, especially in the forward's a if if you

492
00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:39,399
Speaker 5: got injured, and yeah, I mean still remember you know

493
00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:41,920
Speaker 5: FITZI when he got finally got subbed off, man, he

494
00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:45,240
Speaker 5: didn't want to come off. You'd play with the injuries

495
00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:48,040
Speaker 5: and you give some mug another chance. And I think

496
00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:50,960
Speaker 5: normally it said on the bench, well bloody fifty odd

497
00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:52,200
Speaker 5: test matches or something like that.

498
00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:54,720
Speaker 1: So the last thing in one and then changed an

499
00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:57,280
Speaker 1: impact player coming on and proving themselves.

500
00:21:57,400 --> 00:21:59,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, and the other part wasn't that's right if you're

501
00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:00,680
Speaker 3: talking to the head.

502
00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:03,280
Speaker 2: As long as you're as long as after you got

503
00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:05,640
Speaker 2: up you went the right direction back to your side,

504
00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:08,439
Speaker 2: then you're all good to go. But I mean if

505
00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:11,359
Speaker 2: you wandered around sort of a little bit jelly legged

506
00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:13,840
Speaker 2: in the opposition's back line, they generally have a little

507
00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:15,399
Speaker 2: look at you. Maybe you'd take a knee and just

508
00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:19,159
Speaker 2: take five. But yeah, that was what I noticed in

509
00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:20,639
Speaker 2: this game that I was watching. Is is it the

510
00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:24,760
Speaker 2: amount of what I'm trying to say is I think

511
00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:26,480
Speaker 2: you could. I felt like you could play the game

512
00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:28,000
Speaker 2: if you wanted to and you were fit, You could

513
00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:30,800
Speaker 2: play the game at pace. Whereas now what I'm watching.

514
00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:32,840
Speaker 2: Is that traditional idea that the All Blacks have had

515
00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:34,680
Speaker 2: over the last week while, which is to play test

516
00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:37,040
Speaker 2: rugby as quick as you can. I don't know if

517
00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:39,400
Speaker 2: that's possible anymore. I think it's much easier to slow

518
00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:40,960
Speaker 2: the game down than it is to speed the ball

519
00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:41,760
Speaker 2: of the game up.

520
00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:47,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I mean, I guess we're all a tiny

521
00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:50,600
Speaker 5: but frustrated with I guess I don't know where the

522
00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:52,639
Speaker 5: game is at the moment, and I don't know. People

523
00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:54,800
Speaker 5: all pretty negative about the All Blacks and how we

524
00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:55,880
Speaker 5: lost to Syreska and we.

525
00:22:55,840 --> 00:22:56,720
Speaker 6: Lost the Film Cup.

526
00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:58,439
Speaker 5: But I look at it on the sort of the

527
00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:01,320
Speaker 5: other side of things, and you know, what would people

528
00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:02,920
Speaker 5: be saying if we won the World Cup last year,

529
00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:05,000
Speaker 5: Like we've missed a couple of kicks that the boys

530
00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:07,280
Speaker 5: would get. We could have beaten Serathka over Serafrika the

531
00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:10,240
Speaker 5: last two tests. Like I'm thinking, like, you know, what

532
00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:12,879
Speaker 5: would people be saying about, you know, Scott Robinson and

533
00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:15,720
Speaker 5: the team now if we had won those and we

534
00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:18,320
Speaker 5: could have like Seraska at the peak of their powers

535
00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:20,800
Speaker 5: at the moment and they pretty good side. But you know,

536
00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:23,280
Speaker 5: we're a new coaching group and some new players and

537
00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:26,119
Speaker 5: We've lost a lot of bit of experience and we

538
00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:29,159
Speaker 5: still almost managed to beat them, So there is a

539
00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:31,159
Speaker 5: bit of an upside there, and you know, we've just

540
00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:35,040
Speaker 5: got to give it time and you know, let's just

541
00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:35,720
Speaker 5: hang in there.

542
00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:38,480
Speaker 1: Personally, I find it really exciting at the moment. You know,

543
00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:41,560
Speaker 1: I've never been so on the the edge of my seat.

544
00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:45,000
Speaker 1: But yeah, as you say, like you know, in twenty eleven,

545
00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:47,640
Speaker 1: how different would Graham Henry be remembered.

546
00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:48,200
Speaker 3: Right now?

547
00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:50,800
Speaker 1: It was only one point between being absolute hero to

548
00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:54,320
Speaker 1: be celebrated forever, you know, and same the other way

549
00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:56,920
Speaker 1: around in the World Cup for South Africa. So yeah,

550
00:23:56,920 --> 00:23:57,600
Speaker 1: I see what you're saying.

551
00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:00,919
Speaker 5: Yeah, well Ted wouldn't be living on on wacky Island.

552
00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:04,639
Speaker 6: I don't see something to spare.

553
00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:07,880
Speaker 3: This is just one point. Yeah, I'm having out here.

554
00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:12,840
Speaker 2: Christian Callen number two all Black try scorer and behind

555
00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:18,120
Speaker 2: Doug Howett and Joe Rocothocco and behind you with Julian.

556
00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:20,080
Speaker 3: Julian Severe scored a lot of tries.

557
00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:22,520
Speaker 2: Didn't he for I guess he played for five years

558
00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:26,400
Speaker 2: and Bodon Beart is still going. He's on he's on

559
00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:32,000
Speaker 2: forty four. How do you feel about your try scoring record?

560
00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:34,119
Speaker 2: Now that must fill you with the senses of a

561
00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:35,240
Speaker 2: great sense of pride.

562
00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:41,120
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I mean probably when you're an outside back.

563
00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:44,119
Speaker 5: I mean that's part of your job description writers to

564
00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:48,399
Speaker 5: is to score tries and fitish off what I guess

565
00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:51,720
Speaker 5: other people have done. And so I mean I always say, mate,

566
00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:54,119
Speaker 5: you know, okay, you score some individual tries, but a

567
00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:56,040
Speaker 5: lot of them are team tries and in the work

568
00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:59,000
Speaker 5: of other people. And if you stay around the game

569
00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:01,960
Speaker 5: long enough, you will records. So yeah, okay, you get

570
00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:03,840
Speaker 5: a try screen record and you have it for a

571
00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:06,439
Speaker 5: little bit. But there'll be guys that will you know,

572
00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:10,000
Speaker 5: will Jordan for example, if he stays foot and kids

573
00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:13,160
Speaker 5: on plane, like he'll he'll get there eventually if if

574
00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:15,920
Speaker 5: he doesn't go overseas. But yeah, records have made to

575
00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:18,320
Speaker 5: be broken a and that's that's the beauty about it.

576
00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:22,160
Speaker 6: Yeah, it was pretty good. It was cool to score

577
00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:22,639
Speaker 6: the tries.

578
00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:25,040
Speaker 5: And that's probably I reckon that's the one thing you

579
00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:27,760
Speaker 5: kind of misses that buzz and that energy from the crowd.

580
00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:31,440
Speaker 5: And when you do score a try for the All Blacks, like, man,

581
00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:33,800
Speaker 5: you can't get you can't get that anywhere else, Like

582
00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:35,520
Speaker 5: that's that's a pretty cool feeling.

583
00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:37,359
Speaker 1: I bet that would be amazing. But you know you

584
00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:39,359
Speaker 1: say that, but you know, so many people mention you

585
00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:41,440
Speaker 1: as is, you know, the favorite player of all time,

586
00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:42,959
Speaker 1: one of their favorite players of all time. And if

587
00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:45,639
Speaker 1: you go on YouTube, there's there's a lot of people

588
00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:49,680
Speaker 1: that have cut together highlights the reels of Christian Callen.

589
00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:52,080
Speaker 1: Have you ever gone on watch your highlight reels?

590
00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:55,720
Speaker 5: Well, every now and again when the when the kids say, oh,

591
00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:57,520
Speaker 5: you know, you're trying to tell them something, you have

592
00:25:57,560 --> 00:26:04,280
Speaker 5: to sort of remind them to I did play for

593
00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:08,880
Speaker 5: the All Blacks a few games. What do you That's

594
00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:10,760
Speaker 5: the beauty about the Antiday and YouTube you can.

595
00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:12,760
Speaker 6: Show the kids that, yeah, no, I did used to play.

596
00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:14,439
Speaker 6: How old are you?

597
00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:15,399
Speaker 3: How old are your kids?

598
00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:19,280
Speaker 5: Oh? My oldest is sixteen, and then we have fourteen,

599
00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:20,240
Speaker 5: thirteen and twelve.

600
00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:24,000
Speaker 3: Oh that's great. And are they sports? Are they into sport?

601
00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:25,879
Speaker 6: Yeah, they're into it.

602
00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:27,800
Speaker 5: So I've got boy girl, boy girl, so yeah, no,

603
00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:31,080
Speaker 5: they're into a bit of everything really, so yeah, I

604
00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:32,960
Speaker 5: mean the three of them. Actually, the girl plays a

605
00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:35,360
Speaker 5: bit of rugby, she goes alright, and the older boy

606
00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:37,359
Speaker 5: does and a bit of cheering, a bit of netball,

607
00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:40,040
Speaker 5: but of football, so you're the only thing. They haven't

608
00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:42,200
Speaker 5: taken up golf yet, which I'm a bit disappointed about.

609
00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:45,080
Speaker 1: Yeah.

610
00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:47,960
Speaker 2: And as your oldest boy back or a forward, is

611
00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:49,919
Speaker 2: he taking after you? Is in outside backs?

612
00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:53,159
Speaker 5: Yeah, he's an outside back, so he's yeah, yeah, he

613
00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:55,600
Speaker 5: goes to Parmi boys up and up in man or

614
00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:58,440
Speaker 5: two there so yet no, he go a bit of

615
00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:00,840
Speaker 5: a winger, a bit of fullback and then the younger

616
00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:02,480
Speaker 5: boy he's in the front right at the moment. So

617
00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:06,960
Speaker 5: it's not something I have too much information I could

618
00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:07,760
Speaker 5: give him about that.

619
00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:12,000
Speaker 2: Now, let's talk about Celebrity Treasure Island just quickly, because

620
00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:14,760
Speaker 2: I mean, you're a formidable opponent. I would have thought

621
00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:18,760
Speaker 2: in Celebrity Treos Island, particularly around the non sand based challenges.

622
00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:25,919
Speaker 5: Yeah, well, unfortunately a lot of the challenges were done

623
00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:31,399
Speaker 5: with sand around you. Yeah, and then when there's no

624
00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:33,719
Speaker 5: showers and all that sort of stuff and having to

625
00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:37,400
Speaker 5: clean yourself and wash yourself and the beat and the sea, yeah,

626
00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:38,879
Speaker 5: you just can't avoid the sand.

627
00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:41,320
Speaker 1: It looks like you made a bit of a friendship

628
00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:42,960
Speaker 1: with friend of the show mill and Beard. What a

629
00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:43,840
Speaker 1: great newsalander he is?

630
00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:46,080
Speaker 6: Oh how good?

631
00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:48,399
Speaker 5: I mean I'm a I love a good joke and

632
00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:51,040
Speaker 5: I but I can I need someone to be very

633
00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:53,919
Speaker 5: very funny to kind of make me laugh. And he was,

634
00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:58,399
Speaker 5: I don't know, just the way he delivered and just

635
00:27:58,440 --> 00:27:59,760
Speaker 5: some of the things he said.

636
00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:01,760
Speaker 6: And some of the just the way he looked sometimes

637
00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:02,600
Speaker 6: just made me laugh.

638
00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:07,240
Speaker 5: So yeah, I got on really well with Milsey and yeah,

639
00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:09,120
Speaker 5: still in contact with him now and paid a few

640
00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:10,000
Speaker 5: rounds of golf with him.

641
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:12,360
Speaker 6: And yeah, he's a good man.

642
00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:15,000
Speaker 1: He can appear in a movie and just say four

643
00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:17,159
Speaker 1: words and own the whole movie, as he did recently

644
00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:19,720
Speaker 1: in that movie Megan his Delivery. He's just one of

645
00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:23,000
Speaker 1: the most funniest human beings our nations have produced.

646
00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:24,919
Speaker 6: Very very funny, very funny.

647
00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:27,680
Speaker 2: Speaking of funny, Baba I see was one of the

648
00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:29,800
Speaker 2: other cast members. I've had a little bit to do

649
00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:32,440
Speaker 2: with her over the years. She's one of the funniest

650
00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:34,399
Speaker 2: people I've ever met.

651
00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:36,560
Speaker 6: Well, yeah, she's right up there too.

652
00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:39,520
Speaker 5: So I got actually got on well with both of

653
00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:43,960
Speaker 5: those two. So Buba obviously with well, firstly, she didn't

654
00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:45,920
Speaker 5: know that I had a bit of Somemond blood of me,

655
00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:49,040
Speaker 5: so once I told her that, she yeah, we become

656
00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:49,760
Speaker 5: quite tight.

657
00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:54,800
Speaker 6: But she's another one a she just laughs and you

658
00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:56,800
Speaker 6: know she was. She was good for the camp.

659
00:28:57,440 --> 00:28:59,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, hurt my handstring, so she but he got the

660
00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:02,800
Speaker 5: old magic hands out and message and everything like that.

661
00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:03,680
Speaker 3: How good.

662
00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:05,000
Speaker 6: She was great value.

663
00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:06,880
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm surprised that she would have known that

664
00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:08,719
Speaker 2: you played for the Blacks. She didn't seem to know

665
00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:12,840
Speaker 2: that anybody on the cast of task Master what they did.

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Speaker 2: She didn't even really know why she was on task

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Speaker 2: Master half the time.

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Speaker 1: Well, she came in to promote her a new TV

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Speaker 1: show recently, not that, not not Slipper show, another one,

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Speaker 1: and she didn't know anything about that. But she sells

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Speaker 1: a good steak down at Tony Steakhouse.

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Speaker 6: That's off to get it when I get to Auckland.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, she was like that.

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Speaker 5: I don't think she knew I played for the All

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Speaker 5: Blacks until until somebody told us.

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Speaker 6: Another sort of people you love to meet. That's yeah.

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Speaker 1: It's interesting actually looking at the cast this year, you

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Speaker 1: got like some politicians in there running political lines and there,

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Speaker 1: and then you've got political analysts like Duncan Gharana, You've

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Speaker 1: got Tarmady Coffee its politician brook Us Boy you've got

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Speaker 1: it's quite it's quite a crew out there.

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Speaker 6: Yeah. Hell, hell, hell, how much would you trust those guys?

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Speaker 6: Not at all. I got him really well with Dunk.

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Speaker 5: I got him really well with Duncan because he's yeah,

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Speaker 5: I don't know, we just kind of connected and he's well,

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Speaker 5: he's a man of the land, right, so, which I'm

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Speaker 5: not a man of the land, but he I just

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Speaker 5: sort of hung around with him a bit when later on,

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Speaker 5: and yeah.

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Speaker 6: He loves a fish, and he slept a lot, like

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Speaker 6: he could just sleep anywhere. He's Dunk. He's Duncan. Oh

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Speaker 6: there he is.

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Speaker 3: That's a super power. Being able to sleep as a

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Speaker 3: sleep a power.

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Speaker 2: I know why that is. And I'm looking here, Susan Paul.

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Speaker 2: How did Suzan Paul go and the in the tough

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Speaker 2: confines of not being able to I thought she would

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Speaker 2: she'd enjoy a bit of pempering Susanmple.

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Speaker 6: Yeah. Yeah, well she bought the big.

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Speaker 5: A nice little sort of puffer jacket that was quite shiny,

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Speaker 5: and she still could have her makeup and do stuff

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Speaker 5: in the morning and.

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Speaker 6: Get herself really ready for the day.

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Speaker 5: So yeah, it was just more than probably the showering

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Speaker 5: and the nice comfy bed, and I know she does

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Speaker 5: sell like massage chairs and on TV, so we didn't

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Speaker 5: have any of those there. But it was actually know

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Speaker 5: a lot of people have asked me, all, you know,

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Speaker 5: you guys be going staying at hotels and the Seriously,

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Speaker 5: it wasn't that at all.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, she was.

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Speaker 5: She was quite a rough at night and it got

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Speaker 5: really cold because we had no bloody windows or no

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Speaker 5: back door or in the hut. So yeah, the wind

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Speaker 5: sort of came through and it did get pretty cold

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Speaker 5: at night.

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Speaker 6: So you just you just got on.

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Speaker 5: Your bloody sleeping bag and pulled the cover over your

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Speaker 5: head and you know, tried to get some sleep.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: No amount of natural glow is going to help Susan

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Speaker 3: Paul with that.

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Speaker 2: No. Christian Callen, thanks so much for your time this morning.

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Speaker 2: Celebrity Trees of Island Monday, Tuesday Wednesday seven thirty on

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Speaker 2: TV and Z too, and you can watch it on

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Speaker 2: TV and Z Plus as well. Thanks so much for

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Speaker 2: your time, Christians.

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Speaker 6: Guys, take it easy, all right, see you later.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, what a great New Zealander Christian Kallen.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's there's Christian Callen. He's on Celebrity Treesure Island

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Speaker 2: with the castles, Casey Corpush's silver ferns. Obviously, you've got

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Speaker 2: Duncan Ghana your broadcaster. You've got me and Mottu the boxer.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you know me and Mottu.

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Speaker 1: You got Wirrangy Corpou former warrior. So you got some

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Speaker 1: specimens out there.

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Speaker 2: Drag superstar, Spanky Jackson's there. You got James Roliston who,

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Speaker 2: James Rolliston is an actor, Eyes and Boy. Oh yeah

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Speaker 2: you're from Boy. Yeah, okay, yep, great New Zealander. All right,

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Speaker 2: Barber the comedian. So lot's happening, Yeah, lot's happening on

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Speaker 2: Slippery tries on.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, crazy the dunk and also it's a sleep all

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Speaker 4: the time.

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Speaker 3: I don't really Yeah, some kind of sleep disease.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what would that would happen to someone.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, that brings the end of the show. So

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Speaker 1: make sure you follow Meshy on his Worm's View only

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Speaker 1: fans that will be and me on my Matt Heath

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Speaker 1: dot substack dot com. I might shove a little bit

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Speaker 1: of a bit of that Worm's o View up there

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Speaker 1: as well. Shove that up your right, all right, okay, okay,

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Speaker 1: then you see him busy, go.

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Speaker 3: For a snooze.

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Speaker 1: All right, Hello, I'm Matt Heath. You have been listening

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Speaker 3: Anyway you seem busy, I'll let you go. Bless Blessed, blessed.

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Speaker 3: Give them a taste of key we from me,