1 00:00:01,760 --> 00:00:08,600 Speaker 1: The issues, the interviews and the inside Ryan Bridge new 2 00:00:08,640 --> 00:00:12,360 Speaker 1: for twenty twenty four on an early edition with Smith City, New. 3 00:00:12,320 --> 00:00:15,240 Speaker 2: Zealand's furniture Beds and a play a store Us Dogs. 4 00:00:15,280 --> 00:00:16,480 Speaker 2: It'd be good morning. 5 00:00:16,480 --> 00:00:19,160 Speaker 3: It is six after five. Welcome to your Friday morning. 6 00:00:19,239 --> 00:00:21,239 Speaker 3: In the next couple of minutes if you're in need, 7 00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:24,639 Speaker 3: and Civil Defense says do not go to work today. 8 00:00:25,120 --> 00:00:26,720 Speaker 3: We'll have the controller on the show in a few 9 00:00:26,720 --> 00:00:30,319 Speaker 3: minutes time. Coming up before six Casey Costello, loads of 10 00:00:30,360 --> 00:00:34,320 Speaker 3: people apparently want to be cops. Huge intake coming plus 11 00:00:34,360 --> 00:00:38,360 Speaker 3: the smoking scandal and help New Zealand finances on life support. 12 00:00:40,280 --> 00:00:41,000 Speaker 2: The agenda. 13 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:44,200 Speaker 3: It is the fourth of October, a state of emergency 14 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:46,880 Speaker 3: being declared in the need and following that torrential rain 15 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:51,400 Speaker 3: and some flooding South Dunedin particularly hit. Hard hit people 16 00:00:51,440 --> 00:00:54,720 Speaker 3: advise to self evacuate if they feel unsafe, and evacuation 17 00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:57,320 Speaker 3: center has been set up at Forsyth Bars Stadium. 18 00:00:57,680 --> 00:01:01,080 Speaker 4: We've cross has been here every air ear and a 19 00:01:01,120 --> 00:01:02,480 Speaker 4: half chicken is all out. 20 00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:04,080 Speaker 5: Been all nighter for me. 21 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:06,480 Speaker 3: I got half a meter of water. 22 00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:10,839 Speaker 6: Not quite leaping out at the bottom step. 23 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:14,880 Speaker 7: Boy has been rough at the bottom of Surrey straight. 24 00:01:14,480 --> 00:01:18,440 Speaker 7: The pressure of the water is that intent said, it's 25 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:21,240 Speaker 7: pushed the hydrant, you know, the metal grates out of 26 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:23,479 Speaker 7: the water, pushing themmartin water coming up. 27 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:26,360 Speaker 3: Some of our callers from overnight. Three year strikes have 28 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 3: hit Southern Bay Route. Nine people killed. A medical center 29 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:34,280 Speaker 3: was hit. Israel's say it was a targeted attack against Hisbula, 30 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:37,000 Speaker 3: but locals say it clearly wasn't It is very clear 31 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 3: that this is a center for ambulances. 32 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:42,240 Speaker 6: It has ambulances and rescuers volunteering to serve society. 33 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:45,520 Speaker 3: And the US President Joe Biden is in discussions with 34 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:49,160 Speaker 3: Israel on a retaliation against Iran, and I have more 35 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:51,680 Speaker 3: on that in a second. China has claimed to have 36 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:54,720 Speaker 3: entered Arctic waters for the first time in a joint 37 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:58,040 Speaker 3: patrol with Russia. The US Coast Guard has spotted four 38 00:01:58,120 --> 00:02:01,000 Speaker 3: Chinese and Russian vessels and the Bearing Sea before trying 39 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:03,880 Speaker 3: to confirm the operation, saying they were testing their ability 40 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:08,040 Speaker 3: to carry out missions in unfamiliar waters. Always a good thing, 41 00:02:08,120 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 3: isn't it. Eight minutes after five. 42 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:15,120 Speaker 8: Ryan Bridge New for twenty twenty four on early edition 43 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 8: with Smith City, New Zealand's furniture beds and a player 44 00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 8: store news dog. 45 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:21,400 Speaker 3: Zidby, how are you doing to need and give me 46 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:23,760 Speaker 3: a text? Nine two ninety two is the number we're 47 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:26,360 Speaker 3: thinking of you, Hoping you're dry and safe. A state 48 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:29,040 Speaker 3: of emergency has been declared in duned And overnight this 49 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 3: following the surface flooding because of torrential rain. Scott McLean 50 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:35,960 Speaker 3: is Toned and Civil Defense Controller Scott, Welcome to the program. 51 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 3: How many people have you got evacuated? How many in 52 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:39,800 Speaker 3: the evacuation centers? 53 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 9: So we've got a round about seventy people so far 54 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:45,639 Speaker 9: have taken up the offer of our welfare centers. So 55 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:48,800 Speaker 9: they are located at the Saint Clear Golf Club and 56 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:50,440 Speaker 9: forsythe bath Stadium. 57 00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:54,040 Speaker 3: Are their houses flooded or are they just precautionary? 58 00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 9: Most of them with precautionary. We've had reports of one 59 00:02:58,200 --> 00:03:01,360 Speaker 9: or two starting to get water in there, but I 60 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:04,600 Speaker 9: think it was out of caution that they've relocated. 61 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:08,320 Speaker 3: Any reports of damage or injuries at this point, No. 62 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:13,400 Speaker 9: Reports thus far injury and we haven't been able to 63 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 9: get out in a cisny damage at this point. 64 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 3: What about power? 65 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:20,720 Speaker 9: As far as we're were, power is still on. 66 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 3: Is the worst over yet? Has the rain stopped or 67 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 3: obviously the rain's going to keep going, but has the 68 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:28,080 Speaker 3: river level peaked? 69 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:33,480 Speaker 9: So we understand the river levels have receded a bit, 70 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:38,240 Speaker 9: but it's still raining fairly steadily. Met Service updated US 71 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 9: around about nine o'clock last night and forecast up to 72 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:45,480 Speaker 9: one hundred mills for the following twenty four hours to 73 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:51,160 Speaker 9: nine o'clock tonight, So yeah, it's still a weasit to go. 74 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:54,440 Speaker 3: Scott, what's your advice to people this morning? Do they 75 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:55,920 Speaker 3: go to work, do they go to school? 76 00:03:57,120 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 9: Look, our advice is don't go out driving in particular 77 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:11,200 Speaker 9: unless you absolutely have to. It causes problems for emergency responders, 78 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:15,920 Speaker 9: it can cause problems for homeowners in the low lying areas, 79 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 9: pushing pushing water off the roads and into people's properties. 80 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:22,560 Speaker 9: So the advices is to stay home and stay safe. 81 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 3: So that's today. The advice from Civil Defense is if 82 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 3: you are in anywhere in Dunedin, stay home today. 83 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:33,760 Speaker 9: Look, it's probably safer to do so. If you don't 84 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 9: have to travel, the advice would be to not travel. 85 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:39,159 Speaker 3: Scott, thank you for that, appreciate your time and best 86 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 3: of luck and Bridge Rich. It is just on eleven 87 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:46,680 Speaker 3: minutes after five year on News Talk c B. Yeah, 88 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:49,840 Speaker 3: hopefully everybody is doing okay the need and it sounds 89 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:52,920 Speaker 3: like the river levels are peaking or have peaked already. 90 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:55,080 Speaker 3: Nine ninety two is the number if you want to 91 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:59,000 Speaker 3: update me. Could oil hit one hundred dollars a barrel 92 00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 3: by the end of this month. We'll talk about that 93 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:04,719 Speaker 3: in a few seconds. Plus why the pound is taking 94 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:08,840 Speaker 3: a hammering or a pounding over in the UK, We'll 95 00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:11,360 Speaker 3: look at that. To eleven after five News TALKSB. 96 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:19,480 Speaker 8: The first word on the News of the Day early 97 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 8: edition with Ryan Bridge and Smith City, New Zealand's Furniture 98 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:24,599 Speaker 8: Beds and a Planet Store. 99 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:25,800 Speaker 2: News TALKSB. 100 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:29,560 Speaker 3: Thirteen after five News TALKSB. As we speak Biden and NYA, 101 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:34,000 Speaker 3: who are discussing options for a retaliatory strike against Iran. 102 00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:37,599 Speaker 3: Here's why we should all hope that Israel just cools 103 00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 3: its jets a little bit. Obviously there is the loss 104 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:43,200 Speaker 3: of life, et cetera. But also there's a potential inflation 105 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:46,440 Speaker 3: issue here. Oil prices have been pretty stable. We reported 106 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:52,680 Speaker 3: on this yesterday after the strike against Israel. However, if 107 00:05:52,920 --> 00:05:58,280 Speaker 3: Israel hits Iranian energy facilities, they reckon that the price 108 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:01,520 Speaker 3: impact on a barrel of crude oil could go from 109 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:04,720 Speaker 3: seventy four dollars currently to eighty six dollars a barrel, 110 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:08,920 Speaker 3: and any energy analysts are worried that one point eight 111 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:11,800 Speaker 3: million barrels per day is what they produce and ninety 112 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:15,560 Speaker 3: percent of that is exported out of one export facility. 113 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 3: Of that is it, then you've got a problem. And 114 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:20,000 Speaker 3: remember you don't have to think back too far to 115 00:06:20,320 --> 00:06:22,960 Speaker 3: the war in Ukraine. We had one hundred and thirty 116 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 3: dollars a barrel when they went in their stoking inflation 117 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:28,839 Speaker 3: and led to all of our woes and misery. So 118 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:31,280 Speaker 3: something to watch for you this morning, fourteen after five. 119 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:35,880 Speaker 3: Ryan Bridge Health New Zealand's financial position remains on what 120 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 3: would you call it? Life support quarterly performance report out yesterday. 121 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:44,040 Speaker 3: It showed the financial performance declined significantly in the three 122 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:47,359 Speaker 3: months to June this year, a one billion dollar deficit 123 00:06:47,440 --> 00:06:50,359 Speaker 3: for the last financial year. The slump came after a 124 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:54,000 Speaker 3: two hundred and ninety nine million dollar forecasted surplus in 125 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:57,240 Speaker 3: the previous quarter. What's going on here? Sarah Dalton is 126 00:06:57,480 --> 00:07:00,920 Speaker 3: the Association of Salaried Medical Specialist execus of director. Sarah. 127 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:05,159 Speaker 3: Good morning, Good morning, Ryan, how are you very well. 128 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:08,240 Speaker 3: Thank you, Nice to have you on the show. This 129 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:10,840 Speaker 3: is interesting because it says staffing costs are up. There 130 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:13,240 Speaker 3: are some one off impairments, but staffing costs are up, 131 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:16,920 Speaker 3: there's outsourcing going on, and yet we're actually starting to 132 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 3: meet some of these targets. 133 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:23,120 Speaker 10: Yeah, it's kind of a mixed bag. I think it's 134 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:26,840 Speaker 10: also really important to note that more than five hundred 135 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:31,520 Speaker 10: million of that deficit is money that should be in 136 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:34,880 Speaker 10: there to deal with pay equity settlements that hasn't been 137 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:39,240 Speaker 10: passed across by CANN'T, and so you know, it's a 138 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 10: little bit of not quite what it seems in there, 139 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:44,120 Speaker 10: do you know what I mean? 140 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:46,120 Speaker 3: Bit of trickery, a bit of Yeah. 141 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:50,840 Speaker 10: Yeah, that must be really frustrating for the for the director, 142 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:53,600 Speaker 10: it's all of whom have been told they have to 143 00:07:53,640 --> 00:07:58,240 Speaker 10: make significant cuts to their costs over the next financial 144 00:07:58,320 --> 00:08:01,400 Speaker 10: year to try and deal with this problem, this ongoing 145 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:05,040 Speaker 10: problem they have balancing their books. You know, they're still 146 00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:08,720 Speaker 10: struggling to deal with holidays discrepancies that has been going 147 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 10: on for years, and the payroll systems are so problematic 148 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:16,240 Speaker 10: that it is taking a very long time all that 149 00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:18,840 Speaker 10: stuff out and all of those really, you know, secondary 150 00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:22,200 Speaker 10: to the points you raise about actually delivering healthcare to 151 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:23,120 Speaker 10: people who need it. 152 00:08:23,200 --> 00:08:26,200 Speaker 3: I understand that, but I mean, is this not more proof? 153 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:29,960 Speaker 3: Does this not strengthen the case for more cuts? 154 00:08:32,520 --> 00:08:36,120 Speaker 10: Well, watch what happens because listening to what we were 155 00:08:36,160 --> 00:08:39,360 Speaker 10: told Marzida meeting with the health unions and to start 156 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:42,120 Speaker 10: to order just this week where we had presentations from 157 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:47,160 Speaker 10: Public health Services, Mardine, Pacific Health Services, data and digital 158 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:51,520 Speaker 10: strategy and innovation, they're all going to be dealing with 159 00:08:51,559 --> 00:08:55,880 Speaker 10: significant cuts. Some of that's going to impact staffing levels. 160 00:08:56,120 --> 00:08:58,480 Speaker 10: Some of that's going to impact things like the ability 161 00:08:58,520 --> 00:09:02,360 Speaker 10: to roll out digital solutions that will make systems and 162 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:04,679 Speaker 10: stuff more efficient. It will make it easier for them 163 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:09,160 Speaker 10: to do their jobs, easier to see people quickly. Radiology 164 00:09:09,160 --> 00:09:11,920 Speaker 10: and pathology services, which are the things that patients don't 165 00:09:11,960 --> 00:09:14,840 Speaker 10: often think about, but they are really critical to forming 166 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:19,680 Speaker 10: diagnoses and setting out treatment pathways. They have heavy reliance 167 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:25,160 Speaker 10: on data and digital and that's not functioning effectively for them. 168 00:09:25,480 --> 00:09:29,240 Speaker 10: That's going to make, you know, inefficiencies and costs down 169 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:29,679 Speaker 10: the line. 170 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:36,559 Speaker 3: So some troubled waters ahead. But on the face of it, 171 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:40,400 Speaker 3: these measures, the metrics and non financial stuff. You know, 172 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:43,560 Speaker 3: the things seem to be it's tiny fractions, but it 173 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:45,920 Speaker 3: seems to be improving. If you look at cancer wait times, 174 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:50,480 Speaker 3: emergency department surgeries, et cetera, etc. Most of those measures 175 00:09:50,520 --> 00:09:52,920 Speaker 3: seem to be improved slightly, which I mean that must 176 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:53,480 Speaker 3: be a good thing. 177 00:09:54,559 --> 00:09:56,680 Speaker 10: I don't think the improvements. I'm sorry, I'm going to 178 00:09:56,720 --> 00:09:59,160 Speaker 10: ruin your tea party, but I don't think the improvements 179 00:09:59,160 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 10: are significant for us to take particular comfort, and also 180 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:06,079 Speaker 10: what our members tell us, and our senior doctors in 181 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:09,440 Speaker 10: dentists out there on the frontline, and hospitals that are 182 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:13,640 Speaker 10: are still significant staff and gaps, particularly medicals. So we're 183 00:10:13,679 --> 00:10:17,679 Speaker 10: seeing lots of junior doctor gaps, which means a lot 184 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:19,960 Speaker 10: of the senior doctors our members are having to cover 185 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:22,280 Speaker 10: their work as well as their own. It's not an 186 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:24,680 Speaker 10: efficient way to run our hospitals. And a lot of 187 00:10:24,679 --> 00:10:27,320 Speaker 10: our hospitals are still running out one hundred percent plus. 188 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:32,520 Speaker 3: So, Sarah, you're taking that boastful, bashful press release from 189 00:10:32,559 --> 00:10:34,760 Speaker 3: the minister yesterday and you're ripping it right up, aren't you. 190 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:35,720 Speaker 3: That's what you're doing. 191 00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:39,160 Speaker 10: Thank you well. I was in Westport over the weekend, 192 00:10:39,280 --> 00:10:42,120 Speaker 10: you know, with the quarter of their population who are 193 00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 10: protesting about proposed cup for health access and look at 194 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:50,920 Speaker 10: duned and New Zealanders care deeply about access to health 195 00:10:50,960 --> 00:10:52,760 Speaker 10: and we need better, all. 196 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:54,400 Speaker 3: Right, Sarah, thanks for your time this morning, nights to 197 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:56,160 Speaker 3: have you on the show. Sara Adults in Association of 198 00:10:56,200 --> 00:10:58,960 Speaker 3: Salary Medical Specialist Executive Director. Actually, I was thinking of 199 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:01,280 Speaker 3: Dunedin this morning, obvious with the flooding going on, and 200 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:04,880 Speaker 3: normally you would dispatch the Prime Minister and whoever else 201 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:08,680 Speaker 3: to go down there. Gee, it'll be a frosty reception, 202 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:11,440 Speaker 3: you'd have to say, wouldn't it. Nineteen minutes after five 203 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:14,400 Speaker 3: news talks, he'd be up next ghost homes, would Attax 204 00:11:14,679 --> 00:11:15,120 Speaker 3: fix it? 205 00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:17,880 Speaker 2: Get ahead of the headlines? 206 00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:21,720 Speaker 8: Ryan Bridge, you for twenty twenty four on early edition 207 00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:25,319 Speaker 8: with Smith City, New Zealand's furniture beds and a playing store. 208 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:27,160 Speaker 2: News Talks'd be twenty. 209 00:11:26,880 --> 00:11:29,360 Speaker 3: One after five news talks, here'd be Casey Costello on 210 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:33,319 Speaker 3: smoking and cops. Just before six Britain the pounds taking 211 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:35,839 Speaker 3: a hammering. This was about half an hour of last 212 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:38,040 Speaker 3: time I checked, it was on track for the worst 213 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:41,640 Speaker 3: day against the euro since twenty twenty two. Why interest 214 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:45,000 Speaker 3: rates the Bank of England was hinting in an interview 215 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:48,480 Speaker 3: with The Guardian at much more sustained cuts than they 216 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:51,840 Speaker 3: had been previously. Previously, they thought they'd cut in November 217 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:55,320 Speaker 3: and hole at four point seventy five percent. Now they're 218 00:11:55,320 --> 00:11:59,120 Speaker 3: expecting a quarter percent twenty five basis point cut at 219 00:11:59,160 --> 00:12:02,400 Speaker 3: each meeting from November right through till May. That's one 220 00:12:02,520 --> 00:12:04,480 Speaker 3: hundred and fifty basis points that they are looking at 221 00:12:04,520 --> 00:12:08,120 Speaker 3: cutting the OCR and the Bank of England inflation. This 222 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:10,719 Speaker 3: is why inflation down to two point two percent and 223 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:16,080 Speaker 3: falling twenty two after five Ryan Bridge ghost houses? Would 224 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:19,040 Speaker 3: a tax on these houses work to fix the problem. 225 00:12:19,160 --> 00:12:21,599 Speaker 3: Chloe Swaalbrick has previously said that she would be in 226 00:12:21,640 --> 00:12:24,400 Speaker 3: supportive one. You've got some housing Charitable Trust to being 227 00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:27,559 Speaker 3: supported one. More than one hundred thousand houses were empty 228 00:12:27,640 --> 00:12:30,800 Speaker 3: in the latest census, the so called ghost houses. Brad 229 00:12:30,800 --> 00:12:34,080 Speaker 3: Elson is the Informetrix's principal economs. He's with us this morning. Brad, 230 00:12:34,080 --> 00:12:36,960 Speaker 3: Good morning, good morning, Good to have you on the show. 231 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:41,080 Speaker 3: So is this all like evil rich people sitting on 232 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:45,480 Speaker 3: houses of vacation homes or what are they? Well? 233 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:47,320 Speaker 5: And this is the thing often we don't have that 234 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:49,760 Speaker 5: good of an idea. Every five years in the census 235 00:12:49,760 --> 00:12:51,560 Speaker 5: we get a bit of an update on what we 236 00:12:51,679 --> 00:12:54,720 Speaker 5: call unoccupied dwellings, so dwellings that had no one in 237 00:12:54,760 --> 00:12:57,520 Speaker 5: them on census night, and we know that looking through 238 00:12:57,559 --> 00:13:01,240 Speaker 5: the numbers, around about half of those were where people 239 00:13:01,280 --> 00:13:03,400 Speaker 5: do live in them, they just weren't there on census night. 240 00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:07,600 Speaker 5: The other remaining aution, which is like you say, around 241 00:13:07,640 --> 00:13:11,080 Speaker 5: about one hundred thousand were empty on since night and 242 00:13:11,720 --> 00:13:14,640 Speaker 5: don't normally have anyone living in them. But there's a 243 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:17,480 Speaker 5: variety of reasons that could be. They could be holiday 244 00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:21,680 Speaker 5: homes or batches, they could be because they're undergoing renovations. 245 00:13:21,960 --> 00:13:24,079 Speaker 5: Looking through some of the figures, some of the biggest 246 00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:27,400 Speaker 5: are the areas that had the biggest increase in so 247 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:30,360 Speaker 5: called ghost homes or completely empty dwellings were in the 248 00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:33,520 Speaker 5: likes of Auckland, Gibson, and Hawk's Bay. And what that 249 00:13:33,640 --> 00:13:35,839 Speaker 5: leads me to believe is that actually there's a not 250 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:39,640 Speaker 5: insignificant part of those apparent ghost homes that were probably 251 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:43,160 Speaker 5: cyclone damage, that have a flood damaged, or particularly in Auckland, 252 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:45,920 Speaker 5: they might well have been homes that had recently been built, 253 00:13:45,920 --> 00:13:48,920 Speaker 5: but hadn't quite moved on yet, So I really don't 254 00:13:48,960 --> 00:13:50,480 Speaker 5: know if we're actually going to be able to tax 255 00:13:50,559 --> 00:13:54,120 Speaker 5: something that we can't normally see. It's a big project, 256 00:13:54,120 --> 00:13:56,160 Speaker 5: big proposal that people talk about, but I'm not sure 257 00:13:56,160 --> 00:13:58,720 Speaker 5: we could actually have the information to do it no good. 258 00:13:58,880 --> 00:14:02,080 Speaker 3: It sounds like a too basket situation. And do we 259 00:14:02,120 --> 00:14:05,240 Speaker 3: actually know that if we if all of these homes 260 00:14:05,240 --> 00:14:07,960 Speaker 3: aren't be they batches or whatever, if they were released 261 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:10,440 Speaker 3: onto the market, would have helped to solve or ease 262 00:14:10,440 --> 00:14:13,560 Speaker 3: a housing crisis in an area or would it not 263 00:14:13,640 --> 00:14:16,439 Speaker 3: have Is it not the quantity in you say, Queenstown 264 00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:17,520 Speaker 3: to actually make a difference. 265 00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:22,120 Speaker 5: I mean, any additional housing is useful, But again, you know, 266 00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:24,160 Speaker 5: it's not the sort of thing I don't think that 267 00:14:24,680 --> 00:14:27,960 Speaker 5: anyone would propose that government would come in and sort 268 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:31,840 Speaker 5: of necessarily force these houses into work. Again, some of 269 00:14:31,880 --> 00:14:34,800 Speaker 5: them are under renovations and similar they might actually not 270 00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:36,920 Speaker 5: be all that sits of purpose for a lot of people. 271 00:14:37,160 --> 00:14:39,240 Speaker 5: One of the encouraging signs we actually had in the 272 00:14:39,320 --> 00:14:42,240 Speaker 5: census was that some of the policies that have gone 273 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:44,800 Speaker 5: by the likes of healthy Home standards have actually quite 274 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:48,720 Speaker 5: substantially lifted housing quality across the country. So you know, 275 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:51,760 Speaker 5: some of those signs are encouraging. We've now got fewer 276 00:14:51,800 --> 00:14:54,400 Speaker 5: homes that are damped, we've got fewer homes that are moldy. 277 00:14:54,800 --> 00:14:57,080 Speaker 5: Two thirds of homes now have a heat pump. So 278 00:14:57,440 --> 00:14:59,880 Speaker 5: when those are encouraging numbers. But I don't know a falce. 279 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:02,160 Speaker 5: You know, homes that we don't actually know a huge 280 00:15:02,200 --> 00:15:05,040 Speaker 5: amount about. Onto the market is necessarily a solution. 281 00:15:05,280 --> 00:15:07,480 Speaker 3: Now, Brad, we have to leave it there. I'm really sorry, 282 00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:11,120 Speaker 3: but Brad Olsen, who's the Informetric's chief executive and principal 283 00:15:11,120 --> 00:15:13,760 Speaker 3: economists with us this morning talking about those ghost homes 284 00:15:13,800 --> 00:15:16,280 Speaker 3: and more generally about the census. Just gone twenty five 285 00:15:16,280 --> 00:15:18,120 Speaker 3: minutes after five, we do have an update for you 286 00:15:18,560 --> 00:15:22,240 Speaker 3: on the civil defense emergency in Dunedin. Plus we are 287 00:15:22,280 --> 00:15:26,720 Speaker 3: talking to our UK correspondent just before just after the 288 00:15:26,760 --> 00:15:29,320 Speaker 3: news at five point thirty here on news Talks B the. 289 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:34,040 Speaker 8: Early edition full show podcast on iHeartRadio powered by News. 290 00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:37,040 Speaker 3: Talks AB twenty seven after five, News Talk said, be 291 00:15:37,120 --> 00:15:39,720 Speaker 3: great to have your company on this Friday morning. Kudos 292 00:15:39,760 --> 00:15:44,120 Speaker 3: to Quantus this morning for introducing a well being zone 293 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:48,160 Speaker 3: on cattle class of their aircraft. Airlines are cramming us 294 00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:50,560 Speaker 3: in like Sardine's. Anyone who's traveled will know this. They 295 00:15:50,600 --> 00:15:53,760 Speaker 3: serve you booz you recline your seat, the planes dry 296 00:15:53,800 --> 00:15:57,680 Speaker 3: you out, and then as a natural consequence, people go nuts. 297 00:15:58,280 --> 00:16:01,360 Speaker 3: Unruly passengers. You would have seen the stories in the news, 298 00:16:01,480 --> 00:16:04,560 Speaker 3: ripping open the emergency doors, running up and down the aisles, 299 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:09,280 Speaker 3: screaming like mad people. Globally, physical assaults on aircraft up 300 00:16:09,360 --> 00:16:12,880 Speaker 3: sixty percent post pandemic. In New Zealander, lone deals with 301 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:17,120 Speaker 3: two hundred reports a month of abusive behavior, two hundred 302 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:21,400 Speaker 3: a month. So people are responsible for their behavior, yes, 303 00:16:21,440 --> 00:16:25,720 Speaker 3: but the airlines are responsible for the environment which you 304 00:16:25,920 --> 00:16:29,480 Speaker 3: travel in. And this is long haul. I'm talking long haul. Really, 305 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:33,080 Speaker 3: the world is full of nutty people, and you have 306 00:16:33,120 --> 00:16:35,920 Speaker 3: to cater for nutty people, don't you on aircraft? So 307 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:39,280 Speaker 3: good on Quantus from twenty twenty six, I might add, 308 00:16:39,280 --> 00:16:42,080 Speaker 3: don't go and book them tomorrow. But from twenty twenty six, 309 00:16:42,400 --> 00:16:45,760 Speaker 3: a dedicated well being area at the front of economy. 310 00:16:46,120 --> 00:16:52,920 Speaker 3: They've got sculpted wall, integrated handles for exercise, stabilizing you 311 00:16:52,960 --> 00:16:54,760 Speaker 3: and doing some squats or whatever you want to do. 312 00:16:54,840 --> 00:16:59,080 Speaker 3: They've got a cabinet of healthy snacks, fruit juices, smoothies, 313 00:16:59,240 --> 00:17:03,960 Speaker 3: self service. Now here's the kicker. It's for their twenty 314 00:17:04,080 --> 00:17:10,280 Speaker 3: hour flights. Would you do it? Would you do it? 315 00:17:10,320 --> 00:17:15,520 Speaker 3: Even if there's fruit, smoothies and integrated handles for stretching 316 00:17:15,520 --> 00:17:20,640 Speaker 3: an exercise, The answer for me is a resounding note. 317 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:24,840 Speaker 3: But at least they're trying something others should follow. Suit 318 00:17:25,359 --> 00:17:28,200 Speaker 3: nine ninety two is the number to text. Casey Costello 319 00:17:28,320 --> 00:17:31,080 Speaker 3: and our UK correspondent coming up after the news at 320 00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:31,680 Speaker 3: five point. 321 00:17:31,480 --> 00:17:43,080 Speaker 8: Thirty on your radio and online on iHeartRadio Early Edition 322 00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:46,879 Speaker 8: with Ryan Bridge and SMIT City New Zealand's Furniture Beds 323 00:17:46,920 --> 00:17:47,840 Speaker 8: and a Playing Store. 324 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:48,639 Speaker 2: News Talks. 325 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:58,480 Speaker 3: B Good morning, twenty four away from six News Talk, 326 00:17:58,560 --> 00:18:01,159 Speaker 3: said B, I'm Ryan Bridge, great have your company this morning. 327 00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:04,159 Speaker 3: To the people of Dunedin who have been texting in, 328 00:18:04,280 --> 00:18:06,199 Speaker 3: thank you for your text. Hope you're keeping safe. The 329 00:18:06,280 --> 00:18:09,280 Speaker 3: Civil Defense Controller Scott McLain told me earlier on the 330 00:18:09,320 --> 00:18:12,800 Speaker 3: program that seventy people have taken up the offer of 331 00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:16,880 Speaker 3: an evacuation center, visiting one of those, not necessarily because 332 00:18:16,880 --> 00:18:19,840 Speaker 3: their houses have flooded, but because there is flooding in 333 00:18:19,880 --> 00:18:23,640 Speaker 3: the area. The advice from Civil Defense this morning. If 334 00:18:23,680 --> 00:18:26,280 Speaker 3: you don't have to travel, if it is not essential, 335 00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:29,200 Speaker 3: do not, and especially don't use your car, because pushing 336 00:18:29,280 --> 00:18:33,560 Speaker 3: those floodwaters into already damaged homes not a good idea. 337 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:37,000 Speaker 3: This morning, we're looking at Casey Costello over a couple 338 00:18:37,040 --> 00:18:42,160 Speaker 3: of issues. One is the police, huge increase in recruits 339 00:18:42,560 --> 00:18:46,440 Speaker 3: or people signing up to be police recruits and wanting 340 00:18:46,440 --> 00:18:47,879 Speaker 3: to join the force, so we'll look at that, but 341 00:18:47,920 --> 00:18:51,280 Speaker 3: also the smoking issue. Some advice released yesterday. We'll have 342 00:18:51,359 --> 00:18:54,280 Speaker 3: more on that too. Lots to come here on News 343 00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:57,200 Speaker 3: Talk CB. We're also over to the UK Europe as well. 344 00:18:57,240 --> 00:19:01,119 Speaker 3: It is twenty three to six Rainbridge and comes not 345 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:03,399 Speaker 3: with us today, but Claire Sherwood is with us from 346 00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:05,480 Speaker 3: christ Church with the latest on the weather situation in 347 00:19:05,520 --> 00:19:08,600 Speaker 3: the South. Clar why don't we start with Dunedin. 348 00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:11,160 Speaker 11: Yeah, let's start with Daneda and that makes sense. 349 00:19:11,240 --> 00:19:11,480 Speaker 4: Ryan. 350 00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:14,600 Speaker 11: We've got a state of emergency declared there at about midnight. 351 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:17,760 Speaker 11: As you know, the red heavy rain warning remains in 352 00:19:17,800 --> 00:19:21,399 Speaker 11: effect for North Otaga as well as Dunedin and coastal Kluther. 353 00:19:21,800 --> 00:19:24,320 Speaker 11: That will stay in place until about nine o'clock tonight. 354 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:27,680 Speaker 11: So still a long day ahead. Significant flooding is being 355 00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:30,960 Speaker 11: reported in several parts of Dunedin. Residents of South Dunedin 356 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:35,200 Speaker 11: particularly impacted. The initial evacuation center at Sint Clair Golf 357 00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:37,879 Speaker 11: Club is already full. The decision was then made to 358 00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:41,040 Speaker 11: open Forsyth Bar Stadium for those who needed somewhere to go. 359 00:19:41,359 --> 00:19:43,800 Speaker 11: If you do need that, the entry is at Gate Jay. 360 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:47,960 Speaker 11: Some people are without power, a couple of without water around. 361 00:19:47,960 --> 00:19:49,440 Speaker 11: There are a couple of reasons for that. There is 362 00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:52,520 Speaker 11: a ruptured water main on the Othago Peninsula as well 363 00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:55,960 Speaker 11: as a culvert that's blocked at Kris Bay. Flooding has 364 00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:59,320 Speaker 11: closed several roads that include State Highway eighty seven from 365 00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:02,840 Speaker 11: Kyburn to Hide as well as State Highway ninety between 366 00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:07,600 Speaker 11: y Corkwai and Tapa Nui. Sandbags are still available at 367 00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:10,840 Speaker 11: multiple places. Council is the best place to jump on 368 00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:14,320 Speaker 11: their Facebook to get that information. We also have landslides 369 00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:17,520 Speaker 11: that State Highway eighty eight from Forsyth Bar Stadium to 370 00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:21,439 Speaker 11: Port Charmers. There's also one lane of Adomana Road between 371 00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:25,080 Speaker 11: Kerris Bay and Deborah Bay that's impacted. In terms of 372 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:27,560 Speaker 11: what's to come today, Met Service does tell us the 373 00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:30,440 Speaker 11: rain is expected to stick around, he says, people will 374 00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:34,080 Speaker 11: notice it's a prolonged period of persistent rain falling on 375 00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:37,800 Speaker 11: what is already very saturated ground. The significant falls, according 376 00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:40,640 Speaker 11: to Met Service right now should be around nine this morning, 377 00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:43,719 Speaker 11: as well as midday and then again at four. And 378 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:47,000 Speaker 11: in terms of extra resources, FENS has some urban search 379 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:50,800 Speaker 11: and rescue personnel, engineers and even a specialist drone team 380 00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:53,000 Speaker 11: traveling down from here in christ Church today. 381 00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:54,920 Speaker 3: All right, good to night, Cliar, Thank you very much 382 00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:58,040 Speaker 3: for that. Quite the comprehensive update from the south from 383 00:20:58,080 --> 00:21:00,360 Speaker 3: Clear this morning. Thank you for that. Clear mac toll 384 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:03,800 Speaker 3: is in Wellington, Max. The government considered exing the Malori 385 00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:05,080 Speaker 3: Crown Relations Office. 386 00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:08,879 Speaker 12: Yeah, good story by z B. Zazaria. How Here, in 387 00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:12,600 Speaker 12: its search of course for public sector cuts improvements, the 388 00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:16,480 Speaker 12: government at one time strongly considered disestablishing altogether the Crown 389 00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:21,080 Speaker 12: Maori Relations Office, the Arafiti, which was established in twenty eighteen. 390 00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:23,399 Speaker 12: Some of its work would have been shifted to the 391 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:27,119 Speaker 12: Justice Ministry. Of course, the government instead choosing to retain 392 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:31,919 Speaker 12: the departments, scaling it back rather clarifying functions between it 393 00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:36,760 Speaker 12: and the Maori Development Agency Tipuny Corky. These documents show 394 00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:40,320 Speaker 12: heightened public interest in the treaty as citing a reason 395 00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:44,040 Speaker 12: why the office should stay. Labor and the Greens critical, 396 00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:49,200 Speaker 12: the latter calling these that even considering scrapping to Adrafiti 397 00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:50,400 Speaker 12: highly disrespectful. 398 00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:53,560 Speaker 3: It doesn't sound good, does it. Let's get rid of 399 00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:56,719 Speaker 3: the Maori Crown Relations Office. How's the weather in the 400 00:21:56,720 --> 00:21:57,439 Speaker 3: capital today? 401 00:21:58,119 --> 00:22:02,080 Speaker 12: A well, shame to admit it. It's mostly fine. Sixteen 402 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:02,960 Speaker 12: the high in the city. 403 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:06,520 Speaker 3: Even when it's good. You're miserable, Max, Thank you, Nevis 404 00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:07,720 Speaker 3: and Oakland, Hey Nev. 405 00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:12,400 Speaker 13: With Hippie Friday. 406 00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:15,000 Speaker 3: Hey Friday. What's going on with the dogs in South Auckland. 407 00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:18,440 Speaker 13: Well, yes, look, work is underway to fix the South 408 00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:22,400 Speaker 13: Auckland dog problem. So Local Democracy Reporting is saying that 409 00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:25,280 Speaker 13: the council's Animal Management team they've picked up more than 410 00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:28,840 Speaker 13: five thousand roaming dogs in the area. That was from 411 00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:31,640 Speaker 13: twenty twenty three to twenty four. So now they've got 412 00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:34,520 Speaker 13: this new proactive team which is going to patrol the 413 00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:38,600 Speaker 13: high risk areas. Now. These areas include Autata, Mundldeerware and 414 00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:42,520 Speaker 13: Papacuta in South Auckland. They reckon this roaming dog problem 415 00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:45,560 Speaker 13: has been growing post COVID, so part of the problem 416 00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:50,040 Speaker 13: dogs brought during COVID desext and socialized and then you 417 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:52,520 Speaker 13: know Aaron Neary, he's in charge of the team, he says, 418 00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:54,919 Speaker 13: So these animals are now escaping while the owners are 419 00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:57,400 Speaker 13: at work and countering other dogs and people. So they've 420 00:22:57,440 --> 00:22:59,120 Speaker 13: got these five teens and. 421 00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:00,879 Speaker 3: Over a couple of years. That's a bunch of dogs. 422 00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:01,600 Speaker 14: That's right. 423 00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:05,040 Speaker 3: Do you know a cafe yesterday and they were saying, oh, 424 00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:08,200 Speaker 3: there's a there's a pigeon council pigeon person who comes 425 00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:09,640 Speaker 3: along and gets rid of all the pigeons. 426 00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:14,120 Speaker 13: What where where this is an It's not possibly May 427 00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:16,040 Speaker 13: of course it's Bay. 428 00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:21,480 Speaker 3: Well, I don't know. I just heard the heard the 429 00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:25,960 Speaker 3: conversation and oh you eves dropping dropping, and then I 430 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:27,600 Speaker 3: had to go quick. My phone rang and so I 431 00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:31,040 Speaker 3: couldn't ask follow up. But if anyone knows about the pigeons. 432 00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:32,880 Speaker 13: Maybe they get someone who just chases them. 433 00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:36,119 Speaker 3: Like the bird lady for lady, I'm alone. 434 00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:37,920 Speaker 14: Actually, you know, I quite like that, jaw. 435 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:40,040 Speaker 5: I'd rather do that. 436 00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:43,399 Speaker 13: The news reading the weather today mainly fine, apart from 437 00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:46,240 Speaker 13: the chance of a shower this afternoon. Auckland's hi eighteen degrees. 438 00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:49,160 Speaker 3: Thank you, Neva. Happy Friday everyone. Eighteen away from six. 439 00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:50,600 Speaker 3: We are lied to the UK. 440 00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:54,920 Speaker 8: Next International correspondence with ends and eye insurance. 441 00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:56,840 Speaker 2: Peace of mind for New Zealand business. 442 00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:02,320 Speaker 3: Sixteen away from six New Talk CIBB. Vincent Mecavini is 443 00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:04,840 Speaker 3: at UK Europe Correspondent. He's with us this morning. Vincent, 444 00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:07,879 Speaker 3: Welcome to the show. Good to have you back. Good morning. 445 00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:14,080 Speaker 3: Tell me about this secretive islands in the Indian Ocean. 446 00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:17,440 Speaker 6: Yeah, a bit closer to your part of the world. 447 00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:21,520 Speaker 6: The Chagos Islands in the Indian Ocean have been used 448 00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:24,840 Speaker 6: by the UK for the last fifty years. They've had 449 00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:30,160 Speaker 6: sovereignty over them. They were given that by Mauritius and 450 00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:34,280 Speaker 6: the UK has operated a military base there on Diego Garcia, 451 00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:37,479 Speaker 6: and this involved moving off the Cegossian people who are 452 00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:39,560 Speaker 6: relocated here to the UK and have a long time 453 00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:42,560 Speaker 6: protest on this. But this military base, now used jointly 454 00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:45,879 Speaker 6: by the UK and the US, is a top secret facility. 455 00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:49,000 Speaker 6: It's used for US long range bombing. It's seen as 456 00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:53,200 Speaker 6: a critical point for their sort of global power projection, 457 00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:57,919 Speaker 6: particularly in Southeast Asia and with a sort of resurgent China. 458 00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:01,480 Speaker 6: But this deal has been announced now because of ongoing 459 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:05,840 Speaker 6: protests that the UK will hand back sovereignty too Mauritius 460 00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:09,360 Speaker 6: of the islands, but they'll be able to keep control 461 00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:12,840 Speaker 6: of Diego Garcia and that special US UK military base 462 00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:16,040 Speaker 6: for Navy ships and as I said, long range bombers 463 00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:19,679 Speaker 6: for at least the next ninety nine years, in a 464 00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:22,320 Speaker 6: bit of a landmark deal for Kirstalma's new government. 465 00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:26,399 Speaker 3: And also this morning, the flights that are coming out 466 00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:29,440 Speaker 3: of Lebanon for UK citizens they're going a hit. 467 00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:34,760 Speaker 6: Yeah, that's right. There have been evacuation flights chartered in 468 00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:38,720 Speaker 6: part by our Foreign Office to get British people out 469 00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:41,840 Speaker 6: of Lebanon, but it's unclear how much longer they'll be 470 00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:45,800 Speaker 6: able to operate going in and out of the Beirut airport. 471 00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:48,080 Speaker 6: So what we believe is going on now, and we 472 00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:51,119 Speaker 6: have some confirmation, is that there's been an increase in 473 00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:55,560 Speaker 6: personnel at a UK military base in Cyprus that's aquitary, 474 00:25:56,440 --> 00:26:02,040 Speaker 6: an RAF base, and they're looking to potentially evacuate via sea. 475 00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:06,320 Speaker 6: They would deploy ships from the Royal Navy and get 476 00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:08,920 Speaker 6: British people who are no longer able to fly out 477 00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:11,360 Speaker 6: if they decide to go are given the war now 478 00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:13,679 Speaker 6: with Israel, they'll take them out by boat and then 479 00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:16,520 Speaker 6: bring them to Cyprus. We know already that earlier in 480 00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:20,520 Speaker 6: the week military assets, navy vessels in the Mediterranean, and 481 00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:24,800 Speaker 6: we think planes from Aquitari, that base in Cypress were 482 00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:27,280 Speaker 6: used to help defend Israel when it came under that 483 00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:29,040 Speaker 6: huge bombardment of. 484 00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:30,600 Speaker 2: Rockets from Iran. 485 00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:34,199 Speaker 6: And the UK government is saying that it will continue 486 00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:37,199 Speaker 6: to defend Israel should it come under attack again. 487 00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:39,720 Speaker 3: All Right, thanks so much for that. That's Viinctent mcavinniy, 488 00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:42,280 Speaker 3: a UK europe correspondent, just gone thirteen away. 489 00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:44,000 Speaker 2: From six Brian Bridge. 490 00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:47,399 Speaker 3: A surge in police college applications will see recruitment wings 491 00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:50,400 Speaker 3: expand from eighty to one hundred people from next year. 492 00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:53,720 Speaker 3: I record thirteen hundred and seventy two applicants were received 493 00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:56,520 Speaker 3: in July, followed by the second highest number in August. 494 00:26:57,040 --> 00:26:59,879 Speaker 3: But the increased recruitment numbers mean some other police call 495 00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:03,200 Speaker 3: courses might need to move to districts or even online. 496 00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:05,879 Speaker 3: Casey Costello is the Associate Police Minister. She joins US 497 00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:10,200 Speaker 3: Live this morning. Good morning, minister, good morning, I'm very well, 498 00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:13,240 Speaker 3: thank you. I have to start with you've released advice 499 00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:16,360 Speaker 3: on the smoking issue, on the heated tobacco products issue, 500 00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:18,280 Speaker 3: and you've released that last night, so I had to 501 00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:23,480 Speaker 3: start with this. The critics say most of this actually 502 00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:28,199 Speaker 3: isn't even related to heated tobacco products, or some of 503 00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:30,679 Speaker 3: it even is written by Philip Morris employees. 504 00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:34,919 Speaker 4: So and there's a lot of confusion in this space. 505 00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:38,760 Speaker 4: Just really simply, heated tobacco products were already in New 506 00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:39,600 Speaker 4: Zealand's market. 507 00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:40,400 Speaker 9: They were already here. 508 00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:44,000 Speaker 4: What we know from health was that it was significantly 509 00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:47,560 Speaker 4: less harmful than smoking. That we know that Health New 510 00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:51,760 Speaker 4: Zealand released that, and we know other jurisdictions where heated 511 00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:55,840 Speaker 4: tobacco had been used we'd seen significant smoking reductions. So 512 00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:58,840 Speaker 4: what we did was a trial to make a price 513 00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:02,920 Speaker 4: differential to see is people who are hardcore, long term 514 00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:06,480 Speaker 4: addictive smokers, which is what we're dealing with now, had 515 00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:09,640 Speaker 4: other options. So when I met with quit smoking providers 516 00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:12,520 Speaker 4: as well, they confirmed that they are dealing with people 517 00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:16,439 Speaker 4: who all the existing products, including vaithing, aren't working and 518 00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:19,040 Speaker 4: are there other products. So this is a trial. So 519 00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:22,480 Speaker 4: one thing amongst the whole range of things that we're producing. 520 00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:27,639 Speaker 3: So the Ministry of Health told you specifically that heated 521 00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:32,400 Speaker 3: tobacco tobacco products are proven to be less harmful than smoking. 522 00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:35,320 Speaker 4: Yes, and this is the data, and this has been 523 00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:38,560 Speaker 4: released to media as well, that there's in terms of 524 00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:43,480 Speaker 4: the harm reduction, the number of products that are less harmful, 525 00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:46,480 Speaker 4: there's a range of products that are less harmful, and 526 00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:49,720 Speaker 4: heated tobacco, which was already in the market in New Zealand, 527 00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:53,680 Speaker 4: was less harmful. So therefore, if you're trying to and 528 00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:57,520 Speaker 4: vaping since twenty eighteen, as much as we hate vathing 529 00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:00,560 Speaker 4: has been a significant contributor to our mass of reduction 530 00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:01,240 Speaker 4: and making. 531 00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:05,520 Speaker 3: Will people because an all, heated tobacco products are worse 532 00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:07,160 Speaker 3: than vaping, right, so. 533 00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:09,840 Speaker 4: The worry they're not as low harm. 534 00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:12,120 Speaker 3: So, but the worries you have people go from vaping 535 00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:13,920 Speaker 3: to heat heated tobacco products. 536 00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:17,120 Speaker 4: No, and this was this was the point. We weren't 537 00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:21,880 Speaker 4: this This is just one option that we were trialing 538 00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:26,360 Speaker 4: to see if it could provide some support to the 539 00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:30,120 Speaker 4: smoking rates. And you know, it's really frustrating when I 540 00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:32,200 Speaker 4: you know, this is such a massive issue. When I 541 00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:35,840 Speaker 4: met with the heated quit smoking providers throughout New Zealand, 542 00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:39,600 Speaker 4: the frontline workers delivering the services. I'm told that I'm 543 00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:43,280 Speaker 4: the first minister to actually meet with the frontline providers. Okay, 544 00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:45,920 Speaker 4: so this is this is why we're doing stuff. We're 545 00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:47,720 Speaker 4: talking to the people who are delivering the service. 546 00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:50,000 Speaker 3: I have three really quick yes, no questions, and then 547 00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:51,680 Speaker 3: I'm done with this and we can move to police. 548 00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:55,440 Speaker 3: Do you trust tobacco companies and their advice? 549 00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:59,040 Speaker 4: Well, I've never dealt with tobacco companies, so I have 550 00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:00,440 Speaker 4: no one of these. 551 00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:03,520 Speaker 3: I've written some of these reports, haven't they that? 552 00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:06,400 Speaker 4: This is where there's been some discussion that they have 553 00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:08,480 Speaker 4: funded research, but. 554 00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:11,880 Speaker 3: Research trust research fund. 555 00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:14,440 Speaker 4: That This is why we're talking about. This is a 556 00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:17,280 Speaker 4: range of advice, a range of advice that has been 557 00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:23,040 Speaker 4: given for a product that is less. 558 00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:22,840 Speaker 3: His lux and or his office been in contact with 559 00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:24,240 Speaker 3: you over the last twenty four hours. 560 00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:28,040 Speaker 9: Not with me, No, But who was who? 561 00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:28,760 Speaker 3: With Winston? 562 00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:30,600 Speaker 9: No. 563 00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:34,080 Speaker 4: I haven't had any contact with the promis's office. I'm 564 00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:38,440 Speaker 4: assuming my staff has met with his staff around what 565 00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:41,640 Speaker 4: we're doing and while the media noise, but as he said, 566 00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:44,760 Speaker 4: he fully supports what we're doing. We're on a pathway 567 00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:48,680 Speaker 4: to achieving a common target. We're all trying to get 568 00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:50,840 Speaker 4: to smoke through twenty twenty five, we've just got a 569 00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:51,480 Speaker 4: different approach. 570 00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:54,280 Speaker 3: Speaking of targets the police, obviously we need more police 571 00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:57,040 Speaker 3: on the beat. This must be encouraging. The number of 572 00:30:57,200 --> 00:30:59,200 Speaker 3: applicants to go to Police Training College. 573 00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:02,560 Speaker 4: Yes, we're over double what we for the same period 574 00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:06,160 Speaker 4: last year were overdouble the number of applications. And the 575 00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:09,760 Speaker 4: one that's really encouraging. We've had seventy three so far 576 00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:15,160 Speaker 4: either rejoin or apply to rejoin the police. And our 577 00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:18,280 Speaker 4: attrition rate is still below five percent, which you compare 578 00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:21,040 Speaker 4: to other public services which range between eleven and fifty 579 00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:24,000 Speaker 4: four percent atrition rates. Police are at four point eight. 580 00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:27,360 Speaker 4: So you know, all of stuff we're doing about investing 581 00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:29,760 Speaker 4: in frontlines policing, supporting them to get back to their 582 00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:32,920 Speaker 4: core functions of keeping our community safe is really working. 583 00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:34,000 Speaker 2: And it won't. 584 00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:38,040 Speaker 3: Great news, and it won't compromise the quality of the training. 585 00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:39,600 Speaker 9: No, absolutely not. 586 00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:43,000 Speaker 4: We have totally committed to ensuring that we maintain the 587 00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:45,560 Speaker 4: same standards that we're not going to compromise that in 588 00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:48,560 Speaker 4: any way, shape or form. But what we have seen 589 00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:52,120 Speaker 4: is a massive increase in the number of people interested, 590 00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:54,320 Speaker 4: and that's that's fantastic news. 591 00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:56,680 Speaker 3: All right, minister, thank you very much for your time. 592 00:31:56,680 --> 00:32:00,560 Speaker 3: I really appreciate it. Casey had a great day. The 593 00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:03,600 Speaker 3: Associate Minister of Police with US also Associate Health. Just 594 00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:07,840 Speaker 3: gone eight minutes away from six News Talk SIBB News. 595 00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:10,880 Speaker 8: And Views You Trust to start your day's early edition 596 00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:14,600 Speaker 8: with Ryan Bridge and Smith City, New Zealand's Furniture Beds 597 00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:15,560 Speaker 8: and a Flying Store. 598 00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:19,160 Speaker 3: News Talk SIBB five away from six. Roy has a 599 00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:21,480 Speaker 3: novel approach on smoking. He says, just make smokes two 600 00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:23,960 Speaker 3: dollars a packet for adults and stop ripping people off. 601 00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:28,800 Speaker 14: See this debate about Ryan. Hello, it's hither here. I'm 602 00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:29,240 Speaker 14: like one of. 603 00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:31,000 Speaker 3: Those welcome yeah, thank you. 604 00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:32,680 Speaker 14: I'm like one of those people that just joins the 605 00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:34,800 Speaker 14: phone conversation, like your husband's on the phone and the 606 00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:36,960 Speaker 14: speaker and you just chip in. That's me right now. 607 00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:40,440 Speaker 14: You've tried. The debate is about these what. 608 00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:45,239 Speaker 3: Are they called icoss? Yes, I have tried one of them. 609 00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:47,920 Speaker 14: Yeah, I tried them two like years and years ago. 610 00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:49,840 Speaker 14: Because I've actually been on the market for age eighties. 611 00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:51,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, and because I used. 612 00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:53,240 Speaker 14: To smoke when I was young, like twenty years ago, 613 00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:55,200 Speaker 14: and so from time to time, you know, you have 614 00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:56,400 Speaker 14: a couple of beers and then you think, oh, there 615 00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:58,959 Speaker 14: would be loveling them. That's not a good idea. And 616 00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:02,080 Speaker 14: one time I actually I think with an employee of 617 00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:06,520 Speaker 14: Philip Morris and tried it. And I don't really understand 618 00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:09,280 Speaker 14: the argument quite. I mean, this is not science, but 619 00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:12,080 Speaker 14: I can kind of see how Casey Castello could say 620 00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:14,280 Speaker 14: that they may not be as harmful as siggi's because 621 00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:16,320 Speaker 14: it's not nearly as harsh as a SIGI when you. 622 00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:18,680 Speaker 3: Know, try it. The problem is can she prove it right? 623 00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:20,920 Speaker 3: And that's what the whole debate is about, and what 624 00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:22,760 Speaker 3: evidence is she using to prove it. We've just had 625 00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:24,560 Speaker 3: Casey to that point. 626 00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:27,280 Speaker 14: Can I say also to that point, we can't say 627 00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:29,240 Speaker 14: that vaping is less harmful than smoking. 628 00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:31,600 Speaker 3: We don't have long term We don't know, we don't 629 00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:33,360 Speaker 3: have long term right, would be just. 630 00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:35,480 Speaker 14: As bad, if not worths you're smoking, but it's bringing 631 00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:36,560 Speaker 14: all these weird chemicals in. 632 00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:39,120 Speaker 3: But if you do it, you know it, do you 633 00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:41,720 Speaker 3: know what I mean? And feel as yeah, no, it doesn't. 634 00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:43,760 Speaker 14: That's what I'm saying, right, So SIGI is like your 635 00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:47,040 Speaker 14: nuclear option of yuckness. Then the Q cost or whatever 636 00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:50,360 Speaker 14: it's called like whatever, you know, that thing that's less 637 00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:53,560 Speaker 14: and then the vaping feels less as well. Anyway, we're 638 00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:56,000 Speaker 14: going to talk to the Chief Executive Health New Zealand 639 00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:58,600 Speaker 14: after seven o'clock because a five hundred million dollar surplus 640 00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:01,360 Speaker 14: in May turned into a billion dollar deficit for the 641 00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:03,000 Speaker 14: jude How does that happen? 642 00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:03,760 Speaker 2: Quite messie? 643 00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:06,680 Speaker 3: All right, Well, look forward to that, Heather with you next. 644 00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:08,840 Speaker 3: Have a great weekend. 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