1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,040 Speaker 1: Now we've got some positive trade news stats. New Zealand 2 00:00:03,080 --> 00:00:06,640 Speaker 1: data show that goods exports rose nineteen percent to seven 3 00:00:06,640 --> 00:00:08,600 Speaker 1: point six billion dollars in March just compared to the 4 00:00:08,600 --> 00:00:11,280 Speaker 1: same time a year ago. The monthly trade balance is 5 00:00:11,280 --> 00:00:13,560 Speaker 1: a surplus of nine hundred and seventy million dollars, which 6 00:00:13,560 --> 00:00:17,640 Speaker 1: came higher than expected. And Inframetrics principal economist Nick Brunsden 7 00:00:17,920 --> 00:00:18,480 Speaker 1: is with us, Hey. 8 00:00:18,520 --> 00:00:20,439 Speaker 2: Nick, good here you do. 9 00:00:20,640 --> 00:00:22,400 Speaker 1: I'm very well, thank you. Not what's driven it higher 10 00:00:22,400 --> 00:00:23,160 Speaker 1: than we expected? 11 00:00:24,680 --> 00:00:26,439 Speaker 2: A range of things in terms of that on the 12 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:30,520 Speaker 2: product size, dairy prices are a lot better, so you know, 13 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:33,440 Speaker 2: a basic boost and dairy price is account for about 14 00:00:33,479 --> 00:00:35,920 Speaker 2: half of that. The prices are good across all sorts 15 00:00:35,960 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 2: of things that we export. Quei route prices are pretty good. 16 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:42,440 Speaker 2: Beef prices are holding up, high Land recovering, so that's 17 00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:43,120 Speaker 2: already helped. 18 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:46,160 Speaker 1: Is there any indication that we are managing to diverse 19 00:00:46,240 --> 00:00:47,959 Speaker 1: by our trade a little bit away from China, which 20 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:49,360 Speaker 1: is what we've been trying to do for a while. 21 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:52,519 Speaker 2: There is a little bit, yep. So about half of 22 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:55,920 Speaker 2: our trade goes to the big three China, Australia and 23 00:00:55,960 --> 00:00:58,680 Speaker 2: the US. Over the past year, we had a more 24 00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:02,880 Speaker 2: than twenty percent increase to some key partners, so the Netherlands, UK, 25 00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:06,360 Speaker 2: Indonesia and Canada. So that's really good. But I think 26 00:01:06,360 --> 00:01:08,760 Speaker 2: they've moved the dial from sort of fifty percent to 27 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:11,240 Speaker 2: fifty two percent. So good stuff. But you know we're 28 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:12,880 Speaker 2: going to need a lot more a lot more of 29 00:01:12,880 --> 00:01:14,240 Speaker 2: that diversification in the future. 30 00:01:14,480 --> 00:01:16,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's fair point. Well, how the Trump tariff's going 31 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:17,840 Speaker 1: to change what we're seeing. 32 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:22,280 Speaker 2: Here directly for US. I mean it's a hit, you know. 33 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:23,920 Speaker 2: I think it's something that nine hundred million dollars for 34 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:26,800 Speaker 2: New Zealand. The bigger hit will come sort of indirectly 35 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:30,840 Speaker 2: through our trading partners. Obviously, China is the largest importer 36 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:32,840 Speaker 2: of our goods and they're looking at one hundred and 37 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:35,080 Speaker 2: twenty five percent or depending on what day of the week. 38 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:37,800 Speaker 2: It is a pretty big terror from the US. So ultimately, 39 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:40,800 Speaker 2: if those terraffs make China poorer, they won't be buying 40 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:42,200 Speaker 2: our great stuff. 41 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:44,120 Speaker 1: Nick. Look, the thing is, I mean we're obviously going 42 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:45,920 Speaker 1: to look at this and say, Yay, things are finally 43 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:47,680 Speaker 1: on the up and and everything is looking good. But 44 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 1: the fact is, March is always a little bit better 45 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:51,840 Speaker 1: as a month for US as a country, So should 46 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:53,520 Speaker 1: we be should we be seeing this as the start 47 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 1: of a trend with just a monthly March blip. 48 00:01:56,840 --> 00:01:58,760 Speaker 2: So that even on an annual basis, the numbers are 49 00:01:58,760 --> 00:02:01,560 Speaker 2: pretty good. So we had a seven percent increase in 50 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:04,720 Speaker 2: the year to March over the whole year, so that's good. 51 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 2: But yeah, the bigger picture is that global uncertainty that 52 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:10,840 Speaker 2: we're seeing around around tariffs, around and sort of that 53 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 2: knock on to investment. We think that will sort of 54 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:15,840 Speaker 2: push out New Zealand's recovery by a couple of years. 55 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 2: It's just it's not the kind of environment where anyone 56 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 2: really wants to invest. Everyone's kind of just sitting on 57 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:23,560 Speaker 2: the sidelines, and that's going to push down growth. Brilliant stuff. 58 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 1: Hey, Nick, thank you very much, really appreciate Nick Brunsdon, 59 00:02:25,639 --> 00:02:29,880 Speaker 1: Infametrix Principle Economist. For more from Hither Duplessy Alan Drive, 60 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 1: listen live to news talks it'd be from four pm weekdays, 61 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 1: or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.