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Speaker 1: Prebuds an announcement for US one hundred and sixty four

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Speaker 1: million dollars over four years for five new twenty four

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Speaker 1: to seven urgent healthcare clinics. That's forty one million dollars

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Speaker 1: a year. Counties Monaco, fung Rda, Palmston, North Totong and

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Speaker 1: Duneed and Health Minister Sime and Brown with me this

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Speaker 1: morning minutes A good morning.

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Speaker 2: Good morning Ryan.

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Speaker 1: So will these areas get a new clinic?

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Speaker 2: This will be about ensuring those communities have twenty four

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Speaker 2: to seven access to urgent and after ours care and

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Speaker 2: healthy animill grow through a procurement process. Most likely they'll

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Speaker 2: work with existing providers who may already be providing services,

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Speaker 2: say till eight o'clock or nine o'clock at night, and

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Speaker 2: look to extend those hours overnight to ensure that the

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Speaker 2: access to that service is there. It's for young parents

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Speaker 2: needing to have their children seen who come down sick.

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Speaker 2: It's about reducing pressure on emergency departments because we know

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Speaker 2: that around a third of patients who are turn up

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Speaker 2: at emergency departments are Triage four or five, which are

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Speaker 2: lower acuity. Many of those can be seen in urgent

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Speaker 2: and after ours care. Clinics, so reducing pressure on hospitals,

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Speaker 2: providing access and supporting particularly those young families.

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Speaker 1: So this is private clinics. We will pay to go

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Speaker 1: after hours if there was enough of a demand, wouldn't

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Speaker 1: maybe open now already.

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Speaker 2: Look, this is about providing access and ensuring that access

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Speaker 2: is there and ensuring that people can receive that care.

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Speaker 1: So when you pay them to stay open, basically even

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Speaker 1: if they're making a loss, you'll cover it, that's right.

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Speaker 2: It'll be about making sure that there is access to

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Speaker 2: these services. There will also be support for people who

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Speaker 2: do need that support to ensure they can. You know,

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Speaker 2: for lower income families, community services can't. But the cost

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Speaker 2: of the system is substantially cheaper if someone is seen

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Speaker 2: in primary care than if they turn up to an

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Speaker 2: emergency department. The cost difference to somewhere between like a

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Speaker 2: thousand dollars eight hundreds of thousand dollars if someone turns

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Speaker 2: up to an emergency department, whereas it's around one hundred

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Speaker 2: and fifty to two hundred dollars per person if they

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Speaker 2: turn up to an after ours care clinics. Cost of

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Speaker 2: the systems a lot longer, it's closer to home it's

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Speaker 2: more convenient. That's what we're trying to do. Well.

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Speaker 1: The friend of mine's a doctor. He works in an

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Speaker 1: emergency department. He said, the problem is that you've got

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Speaker 1: people who come to the emergency department go there because

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Speaker 1: they know eventually they will be seen and they don't

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Speaker 1: have to pay anything. He said, you give in the

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Speaker 1: emergency department waiting room. You give people a voucher that says, hey,

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Speaker 1: go to this after ours clinic. They can see you

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Speaker 1: and you and you won't have to pay because you

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Speaker 1: were giving you this voucher. They don't move because they

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Speaker 1: are already in a queue. How do you know you

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Speaker 1: can only do so much well.

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Speaker 2: One of the challenges though, in many communities across the country,

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Speaker 2: the access to those services is quite limited in terms

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Speaker 2: of the hours. So for example, Middlemoor Hospital emergency department

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Speaker 2: is one of our busiest emergency departments. There is no

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Speaker 2: after Ours twenty four to seven clinic in Counties Manicau.

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Speaker 2: So that's what we're doing here, making sure there isn't

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Speaker 2: after ours clinic in Counties Mancau. So there is an

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Speaker 2: ability for those patients to be seen elsewhere in the community.

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Speaker 1: But private one open at night. Yeah, that's right.

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Speaker 2: So that's what this is all about, making sure there's

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Speaker 2: more access and supporting reducing pressure in the regency.

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Speaker 1: Department had one very very quick question. Have you had

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Speaker 1: anyone or any unions or anyone approach you about this

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Speaker 1: new pay parody stuff? You know, the potential for a

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Speaker 1: deal being lodged or a case being lodged.

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Speaker 2: Look, though the legislation is very clear individuals unions are

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Speaker 2: able to lodge claims. There's a legislated process around that

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Speaker 2: and if parties can't agree, they can go to the

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Speaker 2: Employment Relations Authority.

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Speaker 1: Thanks your time, minister, appreciate it. Simming Brown, the Health

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Speaker 1: Minister with us this morning.

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