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Speaker 1: Bary, so for senior political correspondents with us.

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Speaker 2: Now, hey Barry, good afternoon, had that?

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Speaker 1: Okay? So jeez, Willie Jackson's very upset about Prebble being

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Speaker 1: being as appointed to the White Hongy Tribunal.

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Speaker 2: Yes, well, the appointment was announced about this time yesterday

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Speaker 2: in fact, when we were just going to air. And

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Speaker 2: the irony is with Richard Prebble being appointed is that

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Speaker 2: he first came to Parliament in nineteen seventy five and

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Speaker 2: that's the very year that the White Hongey Tribunal was established.

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Speaker 2: So he's got a pretty good understanding of the tribunal.

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Speaker 2: Not only that he's an experienced lawyer. He was, as

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Speaker 2: we know, an MP, was a cabinet minister and a

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Speaker 2: fairly prominent one under the Longey administration. Apparently he's has

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Speaker 2: a great knowledge of Maldi language and he's as a lawyer,

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Speaker 2: he's represented EU on their behalf on various forupes. But

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Speaker 2: the interesting thing is the Act put out a statement

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Speaker 2: of course on the announcement, and of course he used

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Speaker 2: to be the leader of Act and it said, and

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Speaker 2: this is probably what God under all willy skin was

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Speaker 2: that Act looked forward. It said to his contributions, ensuring

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Speaker 2: that the Treaty of why Tongy is interpreted and applied

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Speaker 2: in a manner that reflects what it actually says. And

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Speaker 2: of course, with that, because we all know that the

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Speaker 2: Treaty Principal's Bill is being sponsored by David Seymour Well

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Speaker 2: Labour's Willie Jackson. He says that Preb's appointment is simply unbelievable.

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Speaker 2: This is what he said on Radio New Zealand this morning.

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Speaker 3: I think it's a shocking appointment. It's a real kick

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Speaker 3: in the guts for Maori. He was got a government

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Speaker 3: saying they're not anti Maori and defending themselves on terms

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Speaker 3: of getting rid of the hill according to in legislation

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Speaker 3: text right across the specter, and they appoint Richard Prebble.

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Speaker 3: It's unbelievable. Really, It's like appointing Mike Hoskins to run

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Speaker 3: National Radio. Should be the heat of public broadcasting. I mean,

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Speaker 3: what needs is he going to run the Tribunal. It's

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Speaker 3: just a real kick in the guts for Martin Well.

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Speaker 1: I mean that's actually quite funny and as terrible.

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Speaker 2: I think it's funny. He said it on Radio New Zealand.

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Speaker 1: It's a really bad analogy from him, because I would

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Speaker 1: argue that probably Aura and Z could do with having

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Speaker 1: Mike Huskin run the show, given that he is the

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Speaker 1: most successful radio broadcaster in the country. Right, Yeah, well

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Speaker 1: they should be grateful.

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Speaker 2: Asking it at one stage, of course Front Morning.

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Speaker 1: Report when it was actually half decent.

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Speaker 2: And it was half decent then, but look at it now,

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Speaker 2: well there you go. You know, well, look at the

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Speaker 2: whole station, to be perfectly honest, and you don't want

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Speaker 2: to criticize your opposition.

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Speaker 1: And yet you have bury get you have.

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Speaker 2: I listened to it every day, but I don't get

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Speaker 2: a hell of a lot out of it. Oh my gosh.

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Speaker 1: And you keep going, Okay, that's enough of that. Now

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Speaker 1: listen to the Ministry of Health. Could you explain to

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Speaker 1: me why the Ministry of Health did not tell the

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Speaker 1: Minister Casey Costello that one of the people that she

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Speaker 1: was relying on was in fact the sister in law

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Speaker 1: of her opponent.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a disgrace. Actually, Love apologized the Health Ministry

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Speaker 2: now for not declaring that it's Castello.

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Speaker 1: They must have they knew, because I mean, come on,

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Speaker 1: they had leak after leak after leak of health documents

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Speaker 1: coming out, and surely at some stage they should have

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Speaker 1: been and I'm not saying that it was the sister

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Speaker 1: in law who was doing it, but at some stage

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Speaker 1: they should have been like, where could these leaks possibly

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Speaker 1: have come from? By the way, we should probably tell

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Speaker 1: you about this.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, no, it's they've fallen well short and there

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Speaker 2: should be some action. I think it.

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Speaker 1: Actually you'd have to be suspicious that they sat on

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Speaker 1: that information deliberately.

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Speaker 2: Well, absolutely, I mean the acting Director General of how

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Speaker 2: for Marie Roberts, she said the ministry official had adhered

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Speaker 2: strictly to the conflict of interest rules, but the Ministry

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Speaker 2: had failed to then specifically pass on the conflict to

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Speaker 2: Casey Costello. Well, they sat on that knowledge knowing full

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Speaker 2: well that the person that was advising Casey Costello on

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Speaker 2: tobacco legislation was in fact the sister in law of

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Speaker 2: a Cheverral Now verel knew that too, and obviously sat

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Speaker 2: on that information. And you can't tell me that as

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Speaker 2: Chris Hipkins has indicated that it was a distant relative,

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Speaker 2: I mean it's a sister in law. Hipkins said that

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Speaker 2: he pointed the finger at Winston Peters who's been making

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Speaker 2: a lot of noise about this in Parliament this week.

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Speaker 2: He said Peter's actions were yet another example of the

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Speaker 2: government's contempt for workers. I mean, get real, he said,

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Speaker 2: Winston Peters has dragged another MP's family into political debate

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Speaker 2: and named and attacked a public servant who can't answer

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Speaker 2: back a man. Really, where does Chris Hipkins come?

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Speaker 4: Are we trying to pretend that I cheverral sister in

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Speaker 4: law has some poor hard done by worker right? Oh jeez, Verry,

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Speaker 4: thanks very much.

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Speaker 2: I really appreciate it.

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