WEBVTT - "BazBall Vs SteadyBall" 0:00:04.440 --> 0:00:07.640 Live from the Export Bear Garden Studios. You're listening to 0:00:07.720 --> 0:00:11.040 the BYC with just one more sleep before the start 0:00:11.080 --> 0:00:13.720 of the Test series against the English. For all the 0:00:13.800 --> 0:00:16.440 Test loving fans out there, we need to lock in 0:00:16.680 --> 0:00:20.560 all fifteen days and let our respective partners and loved 0:00:20.560 --> 0:00:24.680 ones know we will be unavailable during that time, because 0:00:24.720 --> 0:00:27.440 that's it for the summer. The rest is a hefty 0:00:27.560 --> 0:00:31.040 diart of t twenties and one days. So personally, I'll 0:00:31.040 --> 0:00:33.800 be tuning into the Test series being played across the 0:00:33.840 --> 0:00:37.720 Tesman with the Indians off to a flying start and 0:00:37.840 --> 0:00:41.919 handing the Aussies are hiding, which by extension must make 0:00:42.040 --> 0:00:45.400 us the greatest Test nation in the world at present. 0:00:45.760 --> 0:00:47.000 Ghido Fellas, how we going? 0:00:47.040 --> 0:00:50.760 Dylan Kleaver, I'm baddy good. I'm excited. I love this 0:00:50.840 --> 0:00:51.400 time of year. 0:00:51.840 --> 0:00:55.360 Yes, lovely, isn't it. It's got this sort of crickety 0:00:55.680 --> 0:01:00.080 Christmas e summary flag work kind of vibes about it. 0:01:00.400 --> 0:01:03.000 I'm both edgy at the prospect of a Test series 0:01:03.240 --> 0:01:06.840 and yet the sun's starting to shine, you know, the 0:01:06.920 --> 0:01:09.160 lawns are starting to be cut. Everything feels just a 0:01:09.160 --> 0:01:11.839 little bit more optimistic and glass half forward the moment. 0:01:11.920 --> 0:01:13.479 Yeah, I hear what you're saying, man, and I tell 0:01:13.520 --> 0:01:16.560 you what, Paul Ford, I'm always a big fan of 0:01:16.560 --> 0:01:18.640 the English coming over it to aways a popular tour. 0:01:18.800 --> 0:01:21.000 So these three tests we're going to be locked and 0:01:21.000 --> 0:01:22.040 loaded and ready to go. 0:01:22.800 --> 0:01:25.920 Yes and lovely to have three tests, Yes punishing two 0:01:25.959 --> 0:01:30.000 tests series. Thank you England for dagning, for for coming 0:01:30.000 --> 0:01:32.880 to us on this one one occasion at least. 0:01:32.959 --> 0:01:35.000 I just want to make an apology for last week, 0:01:35.080 --> 0:01:39.800 by the way, and the system's mountdown. That cut it short. 0:01:40.040 --> 0:01:42.520 Yeah, in your absence, Jason, things felt a bit, well 0:01:42.680 --> 0:01:43.160 a little bit. 0:01:43.600 --> 0:01:46.080 You see, what people don't know about this is that 0:01:46.800 --> 0:01:49.800 I'm in charge of the technical side of things and 0:01:49.840 --> 0:01:52.600 when I'm not here it all turns to shit. But 0:01:52.720 --> 0:02:00.920 let's focus instead on this upcoming series, Joe Route, I mean, hello, 0:02:01.480 --> 0:02:04.080 far it up? Then why don't you Winning the Ashes 0:02:04.120 --> 0:02:07.639 in Australia would mean more than anything? Dylan. 0:02:07.840 --> 0:02:09.880 Yeah, that was the headline in the Guardian on the 0:02:09.919 --> 0:02:12.760 eve of a three test series against New Zealand, and 0:02:12.840 --> 0:02:16.800 I just thought, yeah, you'd appreciate this, Jason. Being a 0:02:16.960 --> 0:02:19.360 student of history, it will be meaningless of Paul. But 0:02:19.400 --> 0:02:23.000 it took me way back to eighteen twelve. Sure, and 0:02:23.120 --> 0:02:27.280 Napoleon's obsession with Moscow, okay, and he got there and 0:02:27.320 --> 0:02:29.960 he found that it was empty and it was on fire. 0:02:30.720 --> 0:02:34.320 Meanwhile it had his ass handed to him and Pollots 0:02:34.360 --> 0:02:37.200 and Tarantino. So New Zealand are going to have to 0:02:37.240 --> 0:02:40.400 be the Cossacks. They're going to have to play that 0:02:40.480 --> 0:02:43.919 role and take down these arrogant English that are already 0:02:44.000 --> 0:02:47.560 thinking ahead to the MCG and the SCG and defeat 0:02:47.560 --> 0:02:50.120 them on the fields of Hagley, defeat them at the Basin, 0:02:50.160 --> 0:02:52.080 and defeat them on the fields of Sedven. 0:02:52.440 --> 0:02:55.840 Needley's a nice point, Dylan, need I say, Paul Forward 0:02:56.360 --> 0:02:58.040 that the English maybe have a little look at what 0:02:58.080 --> 0:03:02.560 happened to the Indians. They were thinking about the future 0:03:02.600 --> 0:03:07.560 and playing Australia. In Australia three zip, it was three zip. 0:03:08.040 --> 0:03:11.760 And so now after hearing those comments, nothing short of 0:03:11.840 --> 0:03:14.560 three now will suffice for New Zealand v England. And 0:03:15.560 --> 0:03:18.400 there's always been a situation too, I mean we've always 0:03:18.400 --> 0:03:21.600 as New Zealand as there's been this sort of concept 0:03:21.639 --> 0:03:24.480 that the English are arrogant, that they do look down 0:03:24.520 --> 0:03:27.720 their noses at us. Is that fair? Come on? 0:03:28.360 --> 0:03:31.040 I think it is fair. It's certainly something that we 0:03:31.080 --> 0:03:33.160 should get fired up about, even if it's not fair, 0:03:33.160 --> 0:03:36.160 and it might not be quite everything may not be 0:03:36.440 --> 0:03:38.720 what it seems here in this Guardian piece. First of all, 0:03:38.960 --> 0:03:40.720 please that he didn't ask me too many more questions 0:03:40.760 --> 0:03:43.960 about the French occupation of Moscow in the Battle of Borodino, 0:03:44.600 --> 0:03:47.320 which Dylan seems to be obsessed with. But anyway, here 0:03:47.360 --> 0:03:50.120 we are. Look, I think the point about those the 0:03:50.440 --> 0:03:53.000 Joe Root comments, to be fair to him, is that 0:03:53.320 --> 0:03:55.400 he said some nice things about New Zealand in that 0:03:55.560 --> 0:03:58.440 article to Donald McCrae. I think it was in the Guardian. 0:03:58.640 --> 0:04:00.560 Didn't make the headline. They did, it just. 0:04:00.440 --> 0:04:02.720 Didn't make the headline. Well, that's right, that's right. It's 0:04:02.720 --> 0:04:04.800 hard to blame him. It's hard to blame him for that, 0:04:05.160 --> 0:04:08.040 and he did even he even said poignant things about 0:04:08.040 --> 0:04:10.080 Graham Thorpe and how he was a poor bearer at 0:04:10.080 --> 0:04:12.640 his funeral and Graham Thorpe had done all this wonderful 0:04:12.640 --> 0:04:15.040 stuff for him. Of course, the Thorpe Crow Trophy or 0:04:15.040 --> 0:04:17.360 whatever it is that we're playing for in this series. Yes, 0:04:17.560 --> 0:04:21.240 a connection there, But yeah, look, I think this is 0:04:21.960 --> 0:04:26.119 that point. If England are distracted by all sorts of things, 0:04:26.160 --> 0:04:29.200 including the ashes, which are what a year away, thirteen 0:04:29.200 --> 0:04:32.359 months away? I'm all for it. Sounds great to me. 0:04:32.800 --> 0:04:36.159 Yeah, totally, man, totally, just on that front. In terms 0:04:36.200 --> 0:04:39.320 of looking at the weather conditions across the Test match, 0:04:39.360 --> 0:04:40.279 they're pretty good. 0:04:40.640 --> 0:04:42.520 Yeah, and seasonably warm tomorrow. 0:04:42.680 --> 0:04:44.200 Yeah, twenty eight degrees. 0:04:44.680 --> 0:04:46.880 That would send some of the cants mad, won't it? 0:04:47.120 --> 0:04:47.320 Yeah? 0:04:47.400 --> 0:04:50.760 Yeah, hot northwester Is that what it is the wind 0:04:50.800 --> 0:04:52.920 that sends them all crazy? 0:04:53.000 --> 0:04:54.240 Yeah? Crazy? Yeah? 0:04:54.480 --> 0:04:56.279 The next go read is that what you're saying, Dylan? 0:04:57.440 --> 0:04:59.240 Sorry I missed that, Paul Was that the. 0:04:59.279 --> 0:05:00.880 Next go read? Is that what you're saying? 0:05:01.120 --> 0:05:03.479 Well, I wouldn't have put it quite like that. 0:05:04.720 --> 0:05:06.840 A well. Funnily enough, my one of my girls had 0:05:06.839 --> 0:05:09.160 just moved to Melbourne. It was thirty four degrees yesterday 0:05:09.200 --> 0:05:12.039 and she said, shit, what was the thinking. It's just insanity. 0:05:12.800 --> 0:05:15.320 It's going to be a green wicket. We know that much. 0:05:15.400 --> 0:05:17.560 And there's a little bit of a what's that there 0:05:17.600 --> 0:05:19.280 on the pitch there, Paul Ford, You've got a bit 0:05:19.320 --> 0:05:23.159 of a bit of a conversation with someone there. Oh, 0:05:23.160 --> 0:05:24.440 William Nichols. 0:05:24.360 --> 0:05:26.840 Willie Nicholas, Willie Nichols sent me a little note that's 0:05:26.839 --> 0:05:30.119 saying it will be green, but perhaps not as green 0:05:30.400 --> 0:05:32.040 as usual. 0:05:32.240 --> 0:05:35.240 Right, okay, so more lime green rather than emerald green. 0:05:35.240 --> 0:05:35.760 Do you think. 0:05:35.640 --> 0:05:37.400 You're not verdant green? 0:05:38.000 --> 0:05:41.159 I'd still say it's pretty much a win the toss 0:05:41.279 --> 0:05:42.000 bowl first. 0:05:42.120 --> 0:05:42.360 First. 0:05:42.440 --> 0:05:44.720 Yeah, well, let's get into the let's get I've got 0:05:44.720 --> 0:05:46.960 some stats beyond that, Jay Steve, I'm sure you do. 0:05:47.760 --> 0:05:50.480 Christa. I look back to twenty fourteen at Hagley, team 0:05:50.480 --> 0:05:54.159 bowling in the first innings has won sixty two percent 0:05:54.240 --> 0:05:57.240 of the games, eight out of thirteen. The average score 0:05:57.600 --> 0:06:00.320 is two hundred and eighty nine off eighty over. So 0:06:00.360 --> 0:06:02.760 if you get the second new ball at Hagley, you're 0:06:02.760 --> 0:06:05.560 betting very very well. If you crack three hundred, you're 0:06:05.560 --> 0:06:08.240 betting very very well. So a couple of indicators there. 0:06:08.720 --> 0:06:13.839 Now let's look at the playing eleven fellows, and there's 0:06:13.880 --> 0:06:18.599 some interesting things to discuss here. My little bud bear. 0:06:18.720 --> 0:06:24.440 Of course, Will Young the perpetual loser in these sort 0:06:24.440 --> 0:06:28.880 of scenarios, even after he performs well, But is it 0:06:28.880 --> 0:06:29.720 an official. 0:06:29.520 --> 0:06:34.599 Ar No, Will Young things not. But we do have 0:06:34.720 --> 0:06:35.720 a little bit of audio. 0:06:35.839 --> 0:06:40.440 I believe that makes one of the contentious selections official, 0:06:40.560 --> 0:06:42.280 so we'll just have quick listen to that. 0:06:42.720 --> 0:06:45.960 Yeah, Nathan will make his debut, which is obviously exciting 0:06:46.040 --> 0:06:50.159 for I think someone that's played on the first class 0:06:50.200 --> 0:06:55.440 cricket recently has obviously been successful obviously both in all formats, 0:06:55.440 --> 0:06:58.159 but yeah, someone that's deserves his opportunity over a period 0:06:58.200 --> 0:07:01.920 of time and really exciting challenge for him, which is 0:07:01.960 --> 0:07:05.000 going to be in a great series as Yes, we're 0:07:05.000 --> 0:07:07.080 looking forward to tigging them behind him. 0:07:07.200 --> 0:07:10.480 I tell you what, Nathan Smith, he's a Wellington, Wellington 0:07:10.760 --> 0:07:12.560 born of our player. 0:07:12.800 --> 0:07:17.560 No Wellington domiciled now, but he's straight out of Blue 0:07:17.600 --> 0:07:19.080 and Gold Country down south. 0:07:19.320 --> 0:07:20.680 I thought he was playing for Wellington. 0:07:20.800 --> 0:07:24.679 He does play for them now, Yes, yeah, it's planted. 0:07:25.000 --> 0:07:27.000 Turn that off, why, techie boys. 0:07:27.200 --> 0:07:31.080 I tell you what, I'm always excited by the debut 0:07:31.160 --> 0:07:32.680 of a new player. What are your thoughts on that, 0:07:32.680 --> 0:07:33.239 Paul Ford? 0:07:33.880 --> 0:07:36.840 Yeah, look, I'm excited. I think it was, I guess, 0:07:36.840 --> 0:07:40.560 a straight decision once the decision was made to go 0:07:40.600 --> 0:07:44.800 with four seamers, which seemed all but inevitable. Despite your protestations, Jase, 0:07:45.120 --> 0:07:47.520 it was really just a straight swap. The only argument 0:07:47.600 --> 0:07:51.560 was really between or a straight decision really between Nathan 0:07:51.600 --> 0:07:55.640 Smith from Amadu, North Otago and Worcestershire fifty three first 0:07:55.640 --> 0:07:58.360 class matches, one hundred and forty wickets, twenty six year 0:07:58.360 --> 0:08:01.520 old versus Jacob Duffy of Lumsdon one hundred first class matches, 0:08:01.560 --> 0:08:03.960 three hundred wickets and a thirty year old can't really 0:08:04.000 --> 0:08:07.160 bat has had a stint at Nottinghamshire. I think they've 0:08:07.160 --> 0:08:09.040 gone for the batting insurance. I think they've gone for 0:08:09.160 --> 0:08:11.800 the future. This is a guy that picked up a 0:08:11.880 --> 0:08:15.840 national contract in September. No international experience, a pretty good 0:08:15.840 --> 0:08:18.080 indicator that he was going to get a shot. He's 0:08:18.120 --> 0:08:21.040 on the recorders loving the long format. He's had a 0:08:21.080 --> 0:08:25.560 couple of stellar seasons in the planket shield, with one 0:08:25.560 --> 0:08:27.640 in between where he's out with back surgery, which makes 0:08:27.640 --> 0:08:30.320 me feel a bit nervous for him. You know, he's 0:08:30.360 --> 0:08:33.240 going to be fantastic. There was a lovely yarn about him. 0:08:33.280 --> 0:08:35.320 I think Brendan Egan wrote it, but they talked to 0:08:35.320 --> 0:08:38.079 his brother, and his brother first of all gave up. 0:08:38.120 --> 0:08:41.560 His nickname is not Jason's Bugbear, but Mighty Mouse. He 0:08:41.640 --> 0:08:44.720 was a very small kid, famously bowling bounces and hawk 0:08:44.760 --> 0:08:48.360 cut games at men aged fifteen. So yeah, he called 0:08:48.440 --> 0:08:52.920 him a great little quote called him an aggressive little bastard. 0:08:53.240 --> 0:08:56.200 I mean that is his brother, but still great intel 0:08:56.240 --> 0:08:57.520 from the around the family table. 0:08:57.559 --> 0:09:01.600 That sounds great to me. Let's go true probable eleven there, 0:09:01.720 --> 0:09:09.160 Dylan Latham of course, Conway Williamson, Revenger, Mitchell, blundele Phillips, Smith, 0:09:09.760 --> 0:09:14.720 Henry tim sal the willow' rourke. Any issues with that 0:09:15.280 --> 0:09:16.240 oka not. 0:09:16.280 --> 0:09:17.120 So much issues. 0:09:17.280 --> 0:09:19.400 I think once they decided to go for seamers, I 0:09:19.440 --> 0:09:23.480 don't necessarily agree with that move on a green wicket. Yes, 0:09:23.960 --> 0:09:26.320 we saw them do it last season in Scott Koglin 0:09:26.400 --> 0:09:29.040 barely bold and over in the second innings. 0:09:29.440 --> 0:09:30.880 I think you can get away with it. 0:09:31.000 --> 0:09:33.120 Wasn't great though, to be fair, No, I think. 0:09:32.960 --> 0:09:35.240 You can get away with three if you have got 0:09:35.320 --> 0:09:38.240 that pace bowling all round it. And they clearly don't 0:09:38.280 --> 0:09:43.120 consider Mitchell being able to fulfill that Colinder Grondholm type role, 0:09:43.480 --> 0:09:46.720 so there they therefore they feel compelled to be for seemers. 0:09:47.360 --> 0:09:49.760 I am excited to see Nathan Smith. I do think 0:09:49.760 --> 0:09:53.120 the batting got ahead of Duffy and also just athleticism 0:09:53.280 --> 0:09:56.960 apparently he's magnificent in the field. He can create wickets 0:09:57.120 --> 0:10:02.080 out of nothing in terms of runouts, and so I 0:10:02.120 --> 0:10:03.960 do think that's a great selection. I do think it's 0:10:04.000 --> 0:10:08.000 a nod to the future. So then you get the 0:10:08.080 --> 0:10:10.640 problem is how do you shoehorn the player of the. 0:10:10.600 --> 0:10:13.640 Series in India? And can I read this from stuff? 0:10:13.760 --> 0:10:17.440 And it says as in regards to the Will Young decision, 0:10:17.760 --> 0:10:20.400 it feels like bad news looms for Will Young. The 0:10:20.440 --> 0:10:22.439 Blackcaps batter was the player of the series and the 0:10:22.480 --> 0:10:24.800 stunning three nil series sweep of India last month, but 0:10:24.840 --> 0:10:26.880 it's difficult to see him getting a start in the 0:10:26.880 --> 0:10:29.800 first Test of the home summer. That seems like a 0:10:29.840 --> 0:10:32.800 remarkable statement given how good he was in India. But 0:10:32.920 --> 0:10:37.319 it underlines the batting depth at gary At coach Gary 0:10:37.360 --> 0:10:41.520 Stead and captain Tom Latham's disposal. And I don't actually 0:10:41.559 --> 0:10:45.960 have a fundamental problem with the decision. You just can't 0:10:46.000 --> 0:10:49.400 fit that many players into a team. But it does 0:10:49.480 --> 0:10:53.040 not underline the batting strength of gary At, coach Gary 0:10:53.080 --> 0:10:56.760 Stead and captain Tom Lathan's disposal. And I will give 0:10:56.800 --> 0:11:00.760 you the reason why you've got Tom Latham, who in 0:11:00.800 --> 0:11:03.800 twenty twenty four is averaging twenty five point sixty six. 0:11:03.840 --> 0:11:07.079 You've got Devin Conway in twenty twenty four who's averaging twenty. 0:11:06.840 --> 0:11:09.200 Six twenty six flat. 0:11:09.240 --> 0:11:11.680 You've got Darryl Mitchell who in twenty twenty four is 0:11:11.720 --> 0:11:14.400 averaging twenty eight. You've got Tom Blundell in twenty twenty 0:11:14.400 --> 0:11:17.400 four who's averaging sixteen point eighty six, and you've got 0:11:17.440 --> 0:11:20.839 Glenn Phillips in twenty twenty four who's averaging twenty nine. 0:11:20.880 --> 0:11:24.160 So it's utter horse crap to suggest that they've got 0:11:24.160 --> 0:11:29.240 this amazing, you know, well spring of batting depth to 0:11:29.280 --> 0:11:31.600 cool on. That's five of the top seven who are 0:11:31.640 --> 0:11:34.240 averaging less than thirty in a calendar year full of 0:11:34.240 --> 0:11:34.920 test cricket. 0:11:35.120 --> 0:11:37.720 Yeah, and your next cabs off the rank from the 0:11:37.720 --> 0:11:41.520 contract to playlist are Henry Nichols and Mark Chapman. 0:11:42.120 --> 0:11:42.360 Yeah. 0:11:42.480 --> 0:11:45.400 Yeah, it's not batting death. It's just a choice they've made. 0:11:45.440 --> 0:11:48.000 And I do kind of understand why it has to 0:11:48.040 --> 0:11:50.720 be Will Young that misses out because he's not an 0:11:50.760 --> 0:11:54.040 opener and Latham's captain, so he's not going to miss out. 0:11:54.200 --> 0:11:58.000 Conway has shown signs of life there, so that's all right, 0:11:58.040 --> 0:11:59.800 You're not going to drop Avenger and Mitchell who have 0:11:59.840 --> 0:12:02.959 been critical to New Zealand success recently, and Phillip's up 0:12:02.960 --> 0:12:06.240 as you're a bit of Offsmanane Williamson. Yes, and you're 0:12:06.240 --> 0:12:09.760 not going to drop Williamson clearly, So okay, Well, I 0:12:09.760 --> 0:12:12.000 can understand Will Young missing out. 0:12:12.080 --> 0:12:13.599 This idea that he's missing. 0:12:13.320 --> 0:12:16.960 Out because we've got this incredible strength and depth is 0:12:17.080 --> 0:12:18.280 just absolute nonsense. 0:12:18.320 --> 0:12:20.640 Yeah, I agree with that. And I was going to 0:12:20.720 --> 0:12:23.360 suggest something that that I know both of you are 0:12:23.360 --> 0:12:25.320 going to mock me relentlessly for. 0:12:25.440 --> 0:12:27.400 But I mean, here we go. 0:12:27.840 --> 0:12:32.120 Yeah, Benny Lister coming in at four. No, I was 0:12:32.160 --> 0:12:37.040 going to say, well, maybe well Young for Mitchell. 0:12:38.559 --> 0:12:40.720 No, I didn't know that's rubbish. 0:12:40.760 --> 0:12:42.560 I see, I knew you were gonna say that. 0:12:42.920 --> 0:12:45.560 Yeah, But I mean Mitchell has been a match winner 0:12:46.040 --> 0:12:49.680 for New Zealand pretty recently and I think he needs 0:12:49.720 --> 0:12:51.920 to get the home series you'll. 0:12:51.920 --> 0:12:53.840 Have recently as well. Young though, let's be honest. 0:12:53.880 --> 0:12:57.480 Yeah, true, but although he did play a critical role 0:12:57.520 --> 0:12:58.840 with alongside will Young and. 0:12:58.880 --> 0:13:00.600 That third Test and one of them. 0:13:01.520 --> 0:13:04.200 Yes, here's something that you guys now can mock me for. 0:13:04.960 --> 0:13:09.480 My idea is that you drop Blundle, who's just a 0:13:09.600 --> 0:13:13.080 walking wicket and you give the gloves to Tom Latham. 0:13:14.480 --> 0:13:17.439 But would that require a reshuffle in this as I'm 0:13:17.520 --> 0:13:20.560 arguing with myself. Yet reshuffling they don't. 0:13:22.120 --> 0:13:25.240 I don't disagree with that, but listen, Paul, just so, 0:13:25.280 --> 0:13:28.280 I just want to take up Dylan's point of the 0:13:28.360 --> 0:13:30.400 four seamers because I think it's a good one. You know, 0:13:30.440 --> 0:13:35.840 I'm looking at that weather forecast belting down for five days, 0:13:36.360 --> 0:13:40.360 I mean spinners, because let's not forget we're dropping all 0:13:40.360 --> 0:13:43.600 our spinners as per usual because we're at home after 0:13:43.679 --> 0:13:47.160 they've performed magnificently. What's your view on that? 0:13:48.120 --> 0:13:51.360 Yeah, that's an interesting one. And yeah, what what was 0:13:51.360 --> 0:13:55.240 it against Australia? What it's got Google line Bowl? Against 0:13:55.240 --> 0:13:59.920 Australia it was basically nine overs or something crazy like that. 0:14:00.080 --> 0:14:03.640 Yeah, he got two in his first spell in the 0:14:03.720 --> 0:14:06.120 basin I recall, and that was pretty much. 0:14:06.200 --> 0:14:09.240 Yet I think you bolt six overs in the first 0:14:09.280 --> 0:14:13.240 innings against Australia and Hagley, yes, you know, in green conditions, 0:14:13.559 --> 0:14:15.959 mind you, Matt Henry went through Australia. 0:14:16.360 --> 0:14:18.160 Was that that ending to the second anyway? 0:14:19.080 --> 0:14:21.000 Yeah? Yeah, I mean, and I guess this is the thing, 0:14:21.040 --> 0:14:23.560 you know in England. We'll talk about their team in 0:14:23.600 --> 0:14:25.480 a minute, but yeah, they've definitely gone with a front 0:14:25.480 --> 0:14:28.080 line spinner. But maybe we're just considering that Phillips is 0:14:28.080 --> 0:14:30.280 a front line spinner now not really a batsman, so 0:14:30.320 --> 0:14:33.080 he's playing as that kind of bowling all round her. 0:14:33.280 --> 0:14:36.760 So yeah, I mean there's a little bit of insurance there, Jason. 0:14:37.040 --> 0:14:42.080 Yeah, and you know, I guess, I guess that Phillips 0:14:42.120 --> 0:14:47.320 does nudge out Santana, though I would say that Satana's 0:14:47.360 --> 0:14:49.200 begin beginning to show a little bit of form with 0:14:49.240 --> 0:14:52.560 the bat. He's not even in the squad, not. 0:14:52.960 --> 0:14:56.000 For this first Test, right for the second two. And 0:14:56.120 --> 0:14:59.200 to be fair of the selectors, Hagley is the one 0:14:59.280 --> 0:15:02.200 ground that's all seems to refuse to give up any turn. 0:15:02.560 --> 0:15:06.360 So okay, so they're probably justified there and thinking about 0:15:06.400 --> 0:15:10.040 Revendra and Phillips's guys that can bowl a few overs 0:15:10.040 --> 0:15:12.200 to get through to the second new ball if needed, 0:15:12.840 --> 0:15:15.720 But they're not going to be I think they'll probably 0:15:15.720 --> 0:15:18.320 find it hard to envisage the scenario where they're going 0:15:18.400 --> 0:15:21.800 to be frontline bowlers expected to take wickets. 0:15:21.920 --> 0:15:22.760 One concerned. 0:15:22.800 --> 0:15:25.320 I do have to as an extige on your point, though, Jason, 0:15:25.360 --> 0:15:26.960 there's four right arm seemers. 0:15:27.680 --> 0:15:31.240 Yes, at around the same one, three, five to one, 0:15:31.360 --> 0:15:31.800 four to two. 0:15:32.000 --> 0:15:34.560 What is smith Bowl? Does anyone know that he's like 0:15:34.640 --> 0:15:35.840 mid one thirties, isn't he? 0:15:36.080 --> 0:15:36.280 Yep? 0:15:36.600 --> 0:15:38.240 Late one thirties maybe occasionally. 0:15:39.160 --> 0:15:41.360 Let's look at the English because I've named there eleven 0:15:41.520 --> 0:15:44.600 Zach Crawley been duck at Jacob Beth l Joe wrote, 0:15:44.640 --> 0:15:48.680 Harry Brook, Ollie Pope, Ben Stokes, Chris Wokes, Gus Atkinson, 0:15:49.080 --> 0:15:54.800 Brian and Carson Shower. The sheer thoughts pull forward. 0:15:55.840 --> 0:15:58.600 Well, I guess the interesting maneuver there has been forced 0:15:58.640 --> 0:16:01.560 upon them, which is Jordan Cock the Flaming Ranger wicket 0:16:01.640 --> 0:16:04.760 keeper has gone down after some over vigorous throwdowns from 0:16:04.800 --> 0:16:08.040 none other than Wellington's Jet and Patel. He's gone down 0:16:08.040 --> 0:16:10.200 with a fractured right thumb. So you've got they're in 0:16:10.240 --> 0:16:12.840 a bit of disarray, which they probably love because I 0:16:12.840 --> 0:16:14.920 feel like it plays to McCullum's strengths of doing some 0:16:15.040 --> 0:16:17.160 random shit. So, OLLI, Pope's taking. 0:16:16.960 --> 0:16:18.760 The gloves another Flaming Ranger. 0:16:19.160 --> 0:16:22.840 He's drop dropping down the order to number six, and 0:16:23.720 --> 0:16:25.600 I think there'll be a new wicket keeper who is 0:16:25.680 --> 0:16:28.000 Olli Robinson, but not the fat fast bowler, a different 0:16:28.000 --> 0:16:30.600 Oli Robinson who's on his way out to New Zealand 0:16:30.640 --> 0:16:33.160 but won't be here in time. Ben Folks still on 0:16:33.200 --> 0:16:36.240 the outer, doesn't score runs fast enough as a wicket keeper. 0:16:36.560 --> 0:16:39.040 Johnny Bestow it seems like everybody hates him. And so 0:16:39.320 --> 0:16:42.800 the new guy that's come in is the prodigy Jacob Bethel. 0:16:42.880 --> 0:16:45.040 Maybe we talk about a little bit more about him shortly, 0:16:45.080 --> 0:16:48.400 but yeah, I guess England got show up a share 0:16:48.560 --> 0:16:51.560 in there as the off spinner scene. Attack of Wokes, 0:16:51.560 --> 0:16:55.320 who I'm sure will enjoy the conditions are really predictable 0:16:55.440 --> 0:16:58.040 top order, and a couple of other right arm fast 0:16:58.040 --> 0:17:01.080 bowlers that we haven't seen much of, Atkinson and Bright 0:17:01.120 --> 0:17:05.640 and Cars who were both pretty swift, but yeah, if 0:17:05.840 --> 0:17:08.680 their runs will come. I'm scared maybe of Ben Duckett. 0:17:08.760 --> 0:17:11.679 I think he could enjoy enjoy Hackley belting force. 0:17:12.359 --> 0:17:14.440 Yeah, yeah, I'm scared of I'm scared of two or 0:17:14.480 --> 0:17:16.600 three players, but I think they're there for the taking. 0:17:16.640 --> 0:17:19.960 I'm scared of Joe Route, who just gorged. 0:17:19.760 --> 0:17:22.680 Joe his one hundred and fifty tests. I believe ye. 0:17:23.320 --> 0:17:28.480 Warming up for the action as Paul mentioned Ben Duckett. 0:17:28.840 --> 0:17:31.000 If he gets going, he can take a game away 0:17:31.000 --> 0:17:34.439 from you in a session. And I do like the 0:17:34.520 --> 0:17:37.840 look of this Gus Atkinson. I think he's got a 0:17:37.840 --> 0:17:40.159 bit about him and he could be that kind of 0:17:40.240 --> 0:17:45.239 awkward guy that one can Williamson doesn't like enjoy very 0:17:45.320 --> 0:17:47.600 much with that just sort of short of a length 0:17:47.680 --> 0:17:50.040 on or off around. 0:17:49.680 --> 0:17:52.560 Off decent pace I can see. 0:17:52.680 --> 0:17:56.480 Unfortunately, I have visions of early edge off the gray 0:17:56.560 --> 0:17:58.040 nickels into that slip Cordon. 0:17:58.119 --> 0:18:00.280 Yeah. Well, I mean you know you've got are and 0:18:00.359 --> 0:18:05.199 he hasn't been playing a lot of credit. So I 0:18:05.280 --> 0:18:07.639 just want to get your guys feeling in terms of 0:18:07.680 --> 0:18:10.040 you know, because I'm thinking back to what Joe Roots said, 0:18:10.680 --> 0:18:14.800 and I do wonder if there is an element that 0:18:15.160 --> 0:18:19.120 the English are viewing this test series against US as 0:18:19.160 --> 0:18:23.719 a kind of warm up preparation for future future games. 0:18:23.800 --> 0:18:26.560 I mean, I mean, I'm sure they would deny that 0:18:26.720 --> 0:18:29.400 was the case, but how do you feel I. 0:18:29.320 --> 0:18:32.359 Think they are very much. I mean literally, Joe Root's 0:18:32.359 --> 0:18:35.040 talking about it as a barometer of where they're at, 0:18:35.400 --> 0:18:38.919 having lost in Pakistan and ahead of playing India and 0:18:38.960 --> 0:18:42.080 then Australia, Like that's literally what they're saying, so, yeah, 0:18:42.160 --> 0:18:44.639 I think I think that absolutely is one hundred percent 0:18:44.680 --> 0:18:47.639 on their minds. It's bloody annoying, Okay. 0:18:47.720 --> 0:18:51.720 And they wouldn't take punts like they're taking now against Australia, 0:18:51.720 --> 0:18:54.440 would they. They wouldn't have a guy who has a sum 0:18:54.560 --> 0:18:58.600 total of five first class fifties batting number three. 0:18:59.440 --> 0:19:02.440 Yes, in the first day of Ashiest. He's surely they wouldn't. 0:19:02.880 --> 0:19:08.240 Do you like the look of him, Jason, No, So 0:19:08.240 --> 0:19:10.800 he's just flown and he's just flowing in from the 0:19:10.840 --> 0:19:14.359 West Indies. He's he's going to be bloody tired. I 0:19:14.359 --> 0:19:16.320 feel kind of I don't feel so for him, but 0:19:16.359 --> 0:19:19.320 it's pretty extraordinary. Not only has he got no first 0:19:19.320 --> 0:19:22.119 class tons, he's never scored a professional hundred at any level. 0:19:22.240 --> 0:19:26.040 He's never played at number three. It's quite kind of mad, 0:19:26.720 --> 0:19:29.119 but yeah, he's a he has a prodigy. Sold for 0:19:29.280 --> 0:19:32.000 half a million dollars in the IBL This week. Ian 0:19:32.040 --> 0:19:34.280 Bells called him the best seventeen year old he's ever seen. 0:19:35.920 --> 0:19:38.000 Brian Lara saw him when he was eleven because he's 0:19:38.040 --> 0:19:40.400 from Barbados and said he was much better than himself 0:19:40.440 --> 0:19:43.880 at that age and his family friends with Garfield sobers. So, 0:19:44.080 --> 0:19:45.359 I mean he's got connections. 0:19:45.440 --> 0:19:47.639 Yeah, And the thing is, what's what? What has he 0:19:47.680 --> 0:19:50.720 got to lose? You know, it's not like he's a 0:19:50.800 --> 0:19:53.000 dignity well yeah, but I mean he might have a 0:19:53.040 --> 0:19:55.080 soft stump, but he's still a young fellow to be 0:19:55.200 --> 0:19:57.520 you know, be good to go. Now, who's going to win? Dylan? 0:19:57.800 --> 0:20:00.199 This first Test match? Let's just talk on the first 0:19:59.800 --> 0:20:00.440 t match? 0:20:01.680 --> 0:20:03.560 Can I slightly sit on the fence here? 0:20:03.720 --> 0:20:03.920 No? 0:20:05.960 --> 0:20:08.119 Oh, I think it's a two wins to toss wins 0:20:08.160 --> 0:20:10.240 this first Test I already do. 0:20:10.520 --> 0:20:15.320 Okay, Yeah, that's fair, Paul, No, I reckon. 0:20:15.440 --> 0:20:18.000 I think New Zealand. I think Matt Henry destroys them 0:20:18.240 --> 0:20:21.160