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Speaker 1: Pressing the newsmakers to get the real story.

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Speaker 2: It's Jack Dame on, hither duper c Ellen drive with

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Speaker 2: one New Zealand, Let's get connected.

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Speaker 1: And New Stork said, b.

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Speaker 3: I had God on my side. The words of Donald J.

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Speaker 3: Trump as he accepted the nomination of the Republican Party.

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Speaker 3: He has just finished his big speech in Milwaukee at

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Speaker 3: the Republican National Conventions. The balloons are falling from the

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Speaker 3: ceiling as I speak. The speech was pump has to

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Speaker 3: be said, A mixed bag, mixed bag, some really amazing

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Speaker 3: compelling parts. I think probably the most compelling was when

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Speaker 3: Trump was explaining exactly what happened from his perspective and

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Speaker 3: surviving that attempt at assassination the other day. Some bits,

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Speaker 3: it's fair to say, went a little bit off peace,

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Speaker 3: as is Donald Trump's want. But we're going to make

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Speaker 3: sure we bring you all of the highlights from his

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Speaker 3: presentation at the RNC. Right now, it is seven minutes past.

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Speaker 1: Four, Jack Team, When is.

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Speaker 3: Rugby goin to learn that chasing the short term bucks

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Speaker 3: damages the long term viability of the game. I have

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Speaker 3: absolutely no problem whatsoever with the All Blacks playing Fiji,

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Speaker 3: But how I wish tomorrow afternoon's game was in Suva,

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Speaker 3: or in Hamilton or New Plymouth or Nelson, or anywhere

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Speaker 3: within either of the two countries that are actually contesting

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Speaker 3: the game. Look, sure, the US is a big market,

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Speaker 3: but rugby is never going to be more than an

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Speaker 3: off broadway sport there. And it is especially galling to

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Speaker 3: see a team like Fiji, who you just know would

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Speaker 3: instead have their fans tune in live to coverage from

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Speaker 3: southern California, of all places. In the same way that

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Speaker 3: T twenty cricket is probably the best way to promote

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Speaker 3: cricket into new markets, I reckon rugby sevens should be

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Speaker 3: the sport's full time outreach program. Faster, simpler, more unpredictable,

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Speaker 3: no mucking around setting scrums or fussing at the breakdown.

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Speaker 3: You got to say, the game tomorrow being played in

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Speaker 3: San Diego stinks of money. It stinks of a grab

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Speaker 3: for a short term buck. And here's the thing. Rugby

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Speaker 3: if you can learn anything from rugby league, it's that

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Speaker 3: the way to firm up the long term future of

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Speaker 3: years from now is to get closer to your fans,

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Speaker 3: not further away. Jack Team two ninety two is our

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Speaker 3: text number. Jacket neewstalks dB dot co dot nz is

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Speaker 3: my email address. It's nine past four. Auckland restaurant term

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Speaker 3: Mandy Lusk has written an open letter today calling on

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Speaker 3: Last week, the Chonic restaurant SPQR closed, and Vivacci owner

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Speaker 3: Mandy Lusk says she's heard of three other restaurants closing

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Speaker 3: in the next week, and her own restaurant may well

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Speaker 3: be hitting in the same direction. She's with us this

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Speaker 3: safternoon high Mandy Hijack, So what do you want?

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Speaker 4: What we're asking is just we're not asking for handouts.

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Speaker 4: We're just asking for a little bit of a hand up.

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Speaker 4: And I saw so many comments on social media following

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Speaker 4: we're all trying to pay back things like small business

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Speaker 4: it's really hard, you know, particularly with Auckland, although this

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Speaker 4: from periods when we literally couldn't earn a thing that

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Speaker 3: So many just give us some context here. We've obviously

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Speaker 4: It's horrendous, And I think you know, people have changed

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Speaker 4: so what we're just saying to people is if they

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Speaker 4: the business, the businesses, they have that ability to really

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Speaker 3: Yeah. So I look good on you, Mandy, you know,

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Speaker 3: You're looking for bigger businesses who are a little bit

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Speaker 4: Yep, just adopt a spot, share a love, love your local,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I well said Mandy, thanks for your time. We

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Speaker 3: Mandy Lusk, thank you for your feedback.

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Speaker 3: I would absolutely love to supposs hospital to support hospital

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Speaker 3: the thing. I think this is Mandy's point, right, look

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Speaker 3: into big businesses, big businesses, ones that might have a

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Speaker 3: the Donald Trump's incredible speech at the Republican National Conference

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Speaker 3: in Milwaukee. Yeah, a wide ranging speech, went for more

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Speaker 2: Digging deeper into the day's headlines, it's hither duper c

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Speaker 2: Allen drive with one New Zealand one giant leaf for

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Speaker 3: It balks it b eighteen past four. You were Jack

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Speaker 3: much for your feedback.

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Speaker 6: Jack.

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Speaker 3: My suggestion is also to get hospitals to talk to

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Speaker 3: says Brendan Simon says it's catch twenty two. If restaurants

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Speaker 7: So many people have asked me what happened? Tell us

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Speaker 7: what happened, please, And therefore I will tell you exactly

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Speaker 3: And like any good story, he begins like this, it was.

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Speaker 3: I gotta say, watching it was just utterly compelling. He

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Speaker 3: Right now, though it is twenty minutes past four. On

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Speaker 8: Piney, Yeah, I felt like I'm the warm up act

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Speaker 8: All blacks Fiji two thirty five tomorrow afternoon. I wish

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Speaker 8: like you, Jack, this was in Sufa, all our Toka,

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Speaker 8: but no. San Diego is where we're going tomorrow.

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Speaker 3: And another big rugby news today, Ardie Savia is apparently

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Speaker 8: I was shocked by this when I first heard it.

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Speaker 8: Wouldn't say shocked, I was. I was gutted. I'm a

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Speaker 8: Hurricanes fan, as you know. But then I thought more

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Speaker 8: cool for MOREAA PACIFICA.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 8: One, they get the manna and the wholehearted commitment and

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Speaker 1: It's the world wires on news talks. He'd drive and it.

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Speaker 3: Was some speech. But let me tell your former US

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Speaker 10: So all you criminals, all you low life, all you stumpbags,

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Speaker 10: to answer one question, brother, what you're gonna do when

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Speaker 7: And they say it often. If you took the ten

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Speaker 3: Right, And finally, the Shanghai Museum is inviting people to

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Speaker 2: International correspondence with ends and Eye Insurance Peace of Mind

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Speaker 2: for New Zealand Business.

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Speaker 3: And US correspondent Dan Mitchinson is with us this afternoon. Hi, Dan,

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Speaker 3: talk us through Donald Trump's speech at the Republican National Convention.

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Speaker 11: You know, Jack, I think it felt more like a

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Speaker 11: you mentioned Kid Rock Hulk Hogan ripping off his shirt

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Speaker 3: So how do you think his his speech is going

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Speaker 11: I I you know, his his handlers, if you can

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Speaker 11: I if I was a betting man, and I would

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Speaker 11: Nancy Pelosi is doing this. Multiple sources have said that

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Speaker 11: Aids are just doing what they're doing right now. But

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Speaker 3: And the polls show that he's not going to beat Trump.

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Speaker 3: and finally Dan, bud Light was once America's favorite beer,

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Speaker 11: And just you know, a year ago, a little more

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Speaker 11: than a year ago, I mean, bud had ten percent

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Speaker 11: maybe a little bit more of beer sales here in

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Speaker 11: the US.

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Speaker 13: I mean, it was huge.

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Speaker 11: And then they one of the marketing department decided to

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Speaker 11: hire this transgender social media influencer who has you know,

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Speaker 11: a gazillion followers across TikTok and Instagram as part of

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Speaker 11: a brand for March Madness. Well, that didn't go over

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Speaker 11: with the conservatives in this country, and they launched a

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Speaker 11: nationwide boycott of the brand, and that resulted in sales

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Speaker 11: of bud Light tanking, and people thought, well, okay, everybody's

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Speaker 11: got a short memory span. This brand's been around for generations.

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Speaker 11: Right now it's going to come back. It has not,

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Speaker 11: so it slips number two, and then in the last

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Speaker 11: three months it's now slipped down to number three right now,

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Speaker 11: and this is costing them tens, if not hundreds of

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Speaker 11: millions of dollars just because somebody came up with this

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Speaker 11: idea of let's go with somebody that's on TikTok that

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Speaker 11: has nothing to do with our brand or the people

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Speaker 11: that consume our brand.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's a healthy and warning game. Thank

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Speaker 3: you so much, Dan, appreciate it as EVA. That is

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Speaker 3: US correspondent Dan Mitchison. Thank you for your feedback. Daif

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Speaker 3: has took me a note. Jack, Are you kidding? I've

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Speaker 3: always thought you to be a highly intelligent man, But

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Speaker 3: you found that performance compelling. I found the bit where

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Speaker 3: Donald Trump was talking about the attempted assassination usterly compelling.

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Speaker 3: Not the rest of the speech necessarily. I wasn't there

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Speaker 3: hanging on as every word for ninety minutes, But that

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Speaker 3: bit where he was talking about surviving the attempted assassination, yep,

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Speaker 3: I found it totally compelling. It well, you know, he

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Speaker 3: talked us through the whole thing. He was explaining how

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Speaker 3: he was speaking on stage. He turned his head to

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Speaker 3: the right to refer to a chart that he had

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Speaker 3: prepared with data on illegal immigration, and then he described

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Speaker 3: how he lay on the ground on stage and had

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Speaker 3: all the Secret Service agents on top of him. And that,

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Speaker 3: of course is when he made that extraordinary decision that

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Speaker 3: when he was going to stand back up again, he

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Speaker 3: had to send a signal to the crowd.

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Speaker 7: So this is what he said, And there was great,

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Speaker 7: great sorrow. I could see that on their faces as

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Speaker 7: I looked out. They didn't know I was looking out.

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Speaker 7: They thought it was over, but I could see it.

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Speaker 7: I wanted to do something to let him.

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Speaker 9: Know I was okay.

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Speaker 7: I raised my right arm, looked at the thousands and

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Speaker 7: thousands of people that were breathlessly waiting, and started shouting fight, fight, fight,

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Speaker 7: thank you. Once my clenched first went up and it

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Speaker 7: was high into the air. You've all seen that, the

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Speaker 7: crowd realized I was okay and roared with pride for

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Speaker 7: our country like no crowd I have ever heard before.

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Speaker 10: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: That was Donald Trump explaining what happened to him as

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Speaker 3: part of his presentation at the Republican National Convention. We'll

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Speaker 3: play some more of that after five o'clock this evening.

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much for your feedback. So one Auckland restaurateur,

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Speaker 3: the co owner of Vivaci, has issued a public leader

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Speaker 3: in the Herald today asking people and in particular businesses

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Speaker 3: to get out their big businesses to get out there

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Speaker 3: and try and support hospitality in any way they can.

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Speaker 3: At the moment, so many hospitality businesses doing it tough

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Speaker 3: at the moment. And yeah, heaps of texts have come in. Ben,

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Speaker 3: says Jack. I've got to agree, the price of dining

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Speaker 3: out is just ridiculous at the moment. It's like they

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Speaker 3: don't realize we go to the supermarket. We're aware of

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Speaker 3: the price of raw product. We can't calculate the margins

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Speaker 3: in some cases five hundred percent, says Ben. Come on,

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Speaker 3: that's theft.

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Speaker 5: Jack.

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Speaker 3: If you want to put the blame anywhere on the

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Speaker 3: cost of eating out, honestly, blame the last government for

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Speaker 3: raising the minimum wage. That's all the difference, says the

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Speaker 3: album ninety two ninety two. If you want to flick

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Speaker 3: aus a message jacket newstoroks heb dot co dot NZ,

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Speaker 3: it's fourteen to five.

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Speaker 2: Politics with centrics credit, check your customers and get payments certainty.

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Speaker 3: NEWSTALKSB political editor Jason Walls is with us this afternoon.

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Speaker 3: Killed Eh, good afternoon, Jack. There has been a high

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Speaker 3: level defection at Farmac, So tell us who's gone and

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Speaker 3: why did he leave?

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Speaker 14: Indeed, it is doctor Anthony Jordan and he is leaving

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Speaker 14: farmac's board. He was meant to actually leave in December

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Speaker 14: this year, but there was after news broke Today I

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Speaker 14: got a statement from farmac's chair Paul Bennett, who said

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Speaker 14: that although his term was meant to expire in December,

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Speaker 14: he's leaving effective immediately. And so this comes just a

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Speaker 14: couple of days after FARMAC was was directed to remove

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Speaker 14: its focus of the Treaty of White Tonguey in terms

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Speaker 14: of its directorships on the board. So I spoke with

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Speaker 14: David Seymour soon after the news came out about what

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Speaker 14: actually went down, and he didn't actually seem all that

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Speaker 14: worried that doctor Jordan was leaving.

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Speaker 6: Have a listen.

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Speaker 5: I think if we've got somebody who felt that embedding

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Speaker 5: the treaty was a more important priority than improving the

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Speaker 5: access to medicines for all New Zealanders, were probably made

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Speaker 5: the right decision by causing him to move on.

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Speaker 14: So he's not going to lose much sleepover this one.

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Speaker 14: In fact, he told me that he actually learned about

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Speaker 14: this a few days ago, so before the decision was

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Speaker 14: made public, and Seymour actually had a message for anybody

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Speaker 14: else on the board who had a similar way of

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Speaker 14: thinking to doctor Jordan.

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Speaker 5: And if anyone that doesn't want to get on board

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Speaker 5: with that direction, then actually I think they would be

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Speaker 5: making the right choice by following Dr Jordan out the door.

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Speaker 14: I think he So, he didn't actually say that there'd

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Speaker 14: been anybody else that had expressed this, but he's made

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Speaker 14: his opinions on this pretty clear. And it's not like

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Speaker 14: I asked him, you know, based on what had happened,

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Speaker 14: did this give you pause for thought as to whether

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Speaker 14: this was a good idea? And he was digging in

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Speaker 14: his heels and saying it absolutely is. So don't expect

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Speaker 14: Seymour to be losing too much sleep or being too

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Speaker 14: worried about this one.

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Speaker 3: Speaking of David Seymour, he has broken with tradition of

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Speaker 3: sorts and back to horse and the US presidential race.

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Speaker 14: Yes, this was an interesting one because I was talking

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Speaker 14: to him while I was watching old Donald Trump deliver

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Speaker 14: his speech this afternoon, and I just thought i'd give

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Speaker 14: a bit of a punt as to who he thought,

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Speaker 14: if he would like Trump or if you'd like Biden,

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Speaker 14: if it wasn't Biden, who he would like instead. So

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Speaker 14: have a listen and your his answer will surprise you.

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Speaker 6: I guarantee it.

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Speaker 14: I'm watching the Republican Congress Congress their national conference right now.

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Speaker 14: If you got a Bob each way in terms of

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Speaker 14: Biden or if it is Biden or Trump, who would

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Speaker 14: you prefer Michelle Obama?

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Speaker 6: Why is that?

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Speaker 5: Well in the head to hear, she's the only one

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Speaker 5: that can win.

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Speaker 6: Right And do you think that's likely that she's going

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Speaker 6: to take over from Biden?

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Speaker 5: Well, if you were her and you're sitting there saying

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Speaker 5: there's one hundred million people that want to beat this

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Speaker 5: guy and I'm the only one that can, would.

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Speaker 1: You do it?

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Speaker 6: So there it is.

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Speaker 14: David Seymour wants Michelle Obama to take over and be

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Speaker 14: a Biden Biden, be a Michelle Obama versus Donald Trump race.

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Speaker 14: I think it would be very interesting there.

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Speaker 3: It'll be all the encouragement I'm sure she needs. Hey,

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Speaker 3: what did you make of Whinston Peter's foreigner? He is

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Speaker 3: speaked in Japan?

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Speaker 6: You know it was good, it was long. It will

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Speaker 6: he'll give him that.

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Speaker 14: In fact, I actually watched Peter's speech while I was

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Speaker 14: watching Trump's speech, and by the time Peters was finished,

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Speaker 14: Trump was still going So it wasn't as long as

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Speaker 14: as trumped, but I thought it was very interesting because

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Speaker 14: there was a very large admission omission rather in his speech. Now,

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Speaker 14: I'd like you to listen to what Prime Minister Chris

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Speaker 14: Luxon said while he was chairing the Indoor Pacific four

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Speaker 14: Forum in NATO last week.

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Speaker 15: Cavialism, the intensifying military relationship we see between Russia and

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Speaker 15: the DPRK and China's role in supporting the rebuilding of

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Speaker 15: Russia's industrial base demonstrates the indivisibility of security issues between

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Speaker 15: Europe and our part of the world.

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Speaker 14: So it's the line he says about China's role in

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Speaker 14: supporting the rebuilding of Russia's industrial base. Now listen to

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Speaker 14: what Peters had to say in his speech today.

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Speaker 16: We're also concerned by North Koreas and those others, either

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Speaker 16: directly or through the export of dual use technologies, supplying

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Speaker 16: military related technologies to Russia or supporting its war industries

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Speaker 16: to fuel its illegal invasion of Ukraine.

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Speaker 14: So despite the fact that talking about the same thing,

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Speaker 14: he dropped the reference to China instead opting for those

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Speaker 14: others not China. So it makes you wonder what's happened

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Speaker 14: behind the scenes to take China out of the equation

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Speaker 14: in such a pivotal speech.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that is intrigue. Hey, thank you very much, Jason,

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Speaker 3: appreciate your time. New thoughts. He'd be Political editor Jason Walls.

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Speaker 3: It's eight to five.

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Speaker 1: Putting the tough questions to the newspeakers. The Mike Hosking.

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Speaker 17: Breakfast three hundred and eighty one thousand on the main

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Speaker 17: benefit sanctions are also up significantly in the job seeker area.

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Speaker 17: Social Development and Employment Minister Louis Upston with us a lot.

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Speaker 18: Of people on the benefit it is and unfortunately the

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Speaker 18: numbers that we were expecting with these very challenging economic time.

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Speaker 17: How many people are on there because it's no fault

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Speaker 17: of their own versus how many people are on there

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Speaker 17: because they can't be bothered?

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Speaker 4: Well, I think that's a really difficult one.

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Speaker 13: I think there will be a chunk of them that have.

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Speaker 18: Got used to being comfortable there, but I think the

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Speaker 18: majority really will be in a position that they want

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Speaker 18: to be in work and the steps that they can

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Speaker 18: take to improve their chances.

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Speaker 17: Back Monday from six am The Mike Hosking Breakfast with

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Speaker 17: Jaguar News Talk ZB.

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Speaker 3: Is it cool for the bus driver who play music

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Speaker 3: on the bus. This is one of the most incredibly

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Speaker 3: and surprisingly divisive subjects.

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Speaker 6: Jack.

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Speaker 3: Depends on what music they're playing, so long as it's

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Speaker 3: not wheels on the bus, and I'm all for it.

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Speaker 12: Jack.

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Speaker 3: Have you been on a bus lately? Everyone everyone is

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Speaker 3: wearing air pods or earphones listening to their own music.

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Speaker 3: What does it matter what the bus driver plays? Well,

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Speaker 3: we're going to ask the Horizons District Council after our

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Speaker 3: Horizons Regional Council rather after five o'clock this evening. They've

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Speaker 3: gone out to their residence to ask people in a

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Speaker 3: survey what they think should bus drivers play music on

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Speaker 3: the bus as well as that a really interesting issue

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Speaker 3: brought forward by a doctoral student at Auckland University heading

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Speaker 3: into the Olympics. He reckons we could do a much

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Speaker 3: better job of supporting our Olympians by setting up high

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Speaker 3: performance facilities at universities, kind of like they have in

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Speaker 3: the United States. So it means that athletes who are

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Speaker 3: high performance and sort of on the cusp of professional

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Speaker 3: careers don't necessarily have to decide between an education and

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Speaker 3: pursuing their sport. He's going to be with us after

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Speaker 3: five o'clock as well, really looking forward to that conversation.

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Speaker 3: Donald Trump is not winning one hundred percent of fans

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Speaker 3: over here, Die says Jack. I have never heard such

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Speaker 3: an appalling and boring speech. Donald Trump is beyond belief.

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Speaker 3: Come on, Die, I'm not saying you have to support him.

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Speaker 3: I certainly don't, but you have to accept that some

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Speaker 3: parts of that speech were at least a little bit entertaining.

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Speaker 3: We're going to take you Live till Milwaukee right after

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Speaker 3: the five o'clock news. We will play you some of

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Speaker 3: Donald Trump's comments. A ninety minute speech, so we'll just

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Speaker 3: get the good bits, the highlights.

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Speaker 6: We'll condense it for you.

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Speaker 3: News is next, though it's almost five o'clock.

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Speaker 19: Jack tame on News Talk ZEDB, the only drive show

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Speaker 19: you can trust to ask the questions, get the answers,

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Speaker 19: fy the facts, and give the analysis.

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Speaker 2: Jack tame On, hither Duper c Allen Drive with one

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Speaker 2: New Zealand let's get connected News Talk ZEDB.

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Speaker 3: Well, he's done it. Donald Trump has given his much

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Speaker 3: anticipated speech at the Republican National Convention. He started by

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Speaker 3: speaking about the assassination attempt on him last week.

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Speaker 7: When I heard a loud whizzing sound and felt something

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Speaker 7: hit me really really hard on my right ear. I

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Speaker 7: said to myself, wow, what was that. It can only

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Speaker 7: be a bullet, and moved my right hand to my

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Speaker 7: ear brought it down. My hand was covered with blood.

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Speaker 3: At times, Donald Trump seemed almost philosophical.

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Speaker 7: I'm not supposed to be here tonight, not supposed to

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Speaker 7: be here.

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Speaker 3: At the end of his speech, he promised to be

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Speaker 3: a president for all.

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Speaker 7: I am running to be president for all of America,

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Speaker 7: not half of America, because there is no victory in

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Speaker 7: winning for half other amer.

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Speaker 3: One News US correspondent Logan Church to spend the week

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Speaker 3: at the Republican National Convention and is with us this evening,

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Speaker 3: Calder Logan, what did you make of Donald Trump's speech?

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Speaker 20: Well, good evening, Jack. Well, it was certainly a record

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Speaker 20: sesting speech, if anything, just because of how long the

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Speaker 20: thing was. It went over well over an hour, and

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Speaker 20: from my very great research since it appeared to be

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Speaker 20: one of the longest acceptance speeches of a party candidate

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Speaker 20: at one of these conventions. Well, look, Donald Trump promised

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Speaker 20: and this would be a speechise promoting unity in a

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Speaker 20: divided America. It very much started that way. As you said,

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Speaker 20: and as you heard from Donald Trump himself. He started

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Speaker 20: speaking about his experience during the shooting, describing how there

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Speaker 20: were bullets flying towards him. There was a round of

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Speaker 20: applause as he described the quote brave Secret Service agents

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Speaker 20: rushing onto the stage, finishing with that quite poignant quote,

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Speaker 20: I'm not supposed to be here tonight. But then it

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Speaker 20: very quickly descended into what we would typically see and

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Speaker 20: hear from Donald Trump, which was a loss of very

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Speaker 20: fiery rhetoric. He accused the Democrats of weaponizing democracy, saying

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Speaker 20: they were the ones that had been trying to steal

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Speaker 20: the election, which is somewhat ironic considering those are some

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Speaker 20: of the charges that Donald Trump himself faces. It was

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Speaker 20: a speech though overall, despite how long it was, that

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Speaker 20: certially riled up the Republican base. The atmosphere in that

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Speaker 20: room was electric. However, this won't be an election decided

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Speaker 20: by the Republican base or the Democrat base for that master.

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Speaker 20: It's going to be decided by the people in the middle.

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Speaker 20: Those are undecided as to which way they're going to

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Speaker 20: vote come November, and it is ours as to whether

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Speaker 20: this is going to be the speech that will draw

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Speaker 20: them to Donald Trump because in many ways we got

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Speaker 20: a best of new Donald Trump, but we also got

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Speaker 20: a little bit of what we've always seen of Donald Trump.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I think that's totally fair. It took us

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Speaker 3: through the way he actually told the story about the

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Speaker 3: assassination attempt. What was your view, Logan, Did he seem

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Speaker 3: like he had kind of gone gone over the shock

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Speaker 3: of it all?

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Speaker 20: Yet I don't think you could ever get over the

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Speaker 20: shock of having bullets shot at you, especially in a

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Speaker 20: situation like that. In many ways, he seems borderline emotional

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Speaker 20: talking about some of this, So I think it's also

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Speaker 20: important to know. And you weren't seen this if you

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Speaker 20: were just listening, But as Donald Trump spoke about his experience,

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Speaker 20: the production team put up giant photos of many of

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Speaker 20: those moments you would have seen over the recent days.

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Speaker 20: Some of the incredible photographs taken by press photographers who

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Speaker 20: were there covering the rally just like any other rally.

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Speaker 20: One now quite famous picture show Donald Trump speaking with

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Speaker 20: the bullets, the blur of the bullet whizzing through the air,

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Speaker 20: and that was put up on the big screens behind

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Speaker 20: Donald Trump as he describes that experience and It was

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Speaker 20: quite surreal actually watching a leading presidential candidate and former

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Speaker 20: president speak quite candidly about the experience of actually being

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Speaker 20: shots and almost losing his life. It's something we've never

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Speaker 20: seen before.

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Speaker 1: Really.

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Speaker 20: There are quite an incredible scenes.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it was remarkable. Thank you so much, Logan.

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Speaker 3: That is one new US correspondent, Logan Church. Because the

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Speaker 3: question now is going to be whether or not Joe

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Speaker 3: Biden last the weekend. A lot of the reports out

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Speaker 3: of the US today, alongside the Republican National Convention, suggests

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Speaker 3: that Joe Biden is finally open to potentially standing down.

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Speaker 3: It's eleven past five, Jack t and if you are

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Speaker 3: listening from Todunger, you have until midday tomorrow to get

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Speaker 3: your vote in from the local body election. Yes, you

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Speaker 3: could say that we're covering the two most keenly anticipated

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Speaker 3: elections in the world right now, the US and November

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Speaker 3: and Todunger this weekend. Chances are, though, if you are

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Speaker 3: listening from Todunger, you haven't voted yet because turnout was

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Speaker 3: sitting at about twenty three percent on Wednesday. This election,

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Speaker 3: of course, is going to decide who will be on

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Speaker 3: Todung's first democratically elected council since the previous council was

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Speaker 3: disbanded and replaced by commissioners. Matt Cawley is chief executive

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Speaker 3: of the Todunger Business Chamber and is with us this evening.

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Speaker 3: Good evening, Jordan Jack, why do you reckon? Turnout is

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Speaker 3: so poor?

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Speaker 12: A number of things and Mike Hoskin's dead on right

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Speaker 12: this morning when he said we won't get over thirty

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Speaker 12: percent and local government needs a look at because it's

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Speaker 12: not working at the moment. But we've got new wards

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Speaker 12: in place. There's a bit of fatigue the postal services

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Speaker 12: and working, so they tried a new initiative with putting

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Speaker 12: bins and shopping centers. The candidates left it quite late.

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Speaker 12: There's a bit of apathy and also a bit of fatigue,

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Speaker 12: so there's a hot mix of issues there.

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Speaker 3: What confidence do you have that the newly elected council

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Speaker 3: will avoid the pitfalls that tore the last council apart.

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Speaker 12: It really depends on how well they get together. A

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Speaker 12: good indication is whether they can have their well good

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Speaker 12: discussions in the council meeting room, but they can sit

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Speaker 12: down and enjoy a working lunch in the meeting room,

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Speaker 12: in their lunch room, breakout room in between meetings. If

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Speaker 12: that culture and communication isn't there, it will fall through.

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Speaker 3: And what are the major issues that the new council

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Speaker 3: will be dealing with?

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Speaker 12: Do you think they've got a big bow wave of

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Speaker 12: projects ahead of them. We don't need people with imaginations.

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Speaker 12: We just need people with solutions for financing and funding

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Speaker 12: and prioritizing and obviously engaging with those communities. But transport, housing,

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Speaker 12: regulatory burdens and CBD projects, Yeah, the main ones.

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Speaker 3: How do most people that you've spoken to in totaling

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Speaker 3: I feel about the job that Antollie and the other commissions.

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Speaker 12: Did look predominantly our audience as we've surveyed as roughly

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Speaker 12: between sixty and seventy percent, have been quite supportive of

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Speaker 12: where their direction is going. I think they're quite open

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Speaker 12: to new candidates, for getting a new pair of eyes

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Speaker 12: to look over the numbers and peer review some of

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Speaker 12: their work. But overall, Yeah, the commissioners have done okay,

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Speaker 12: and maybe a bit of balance in the future between

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Speaker 12: skills and elected officials is the way to go.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's interesting. Who do you think is going to

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Speaker 3: be the next mayor?

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Speaker 12: Who knows. I can tell you tomorrow afternoon, but I'd

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Speaker 12: say there's our members shows sort of their top four

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Speaker 12: where Mahe, Greg Brown, nurs Ria and Tina Salisbury. So

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Speaker 12: it'll probably be one of those.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's STV of course a so yeah, things

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Speaker 3: could get interesting once you have all of those votes

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Speaker 3: talied up.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, split votes and other things, but at least with

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Speaker 12: STV that avoids split voting, that it really gives priority.

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Speaker 12: So I think it'll be interesting in the wide and mix.

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Speaker 1: The mayor is only one.

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Speaker 12: Vote and we've got a new ward system, so I

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Speaker 12: think that'll be interesting with how those ward councilors go.

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Speaker 12: Are there only champion for the award or are they

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Speaker 12: keen to make big decisions across the whole city.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, very good, Thanks Matt. Good luck for the next

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Speaker 3: twenty four hours or so. That is the chief executive

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Speaker 3: of Todunger's Business Chamber, Matt Cowley. If you are in

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Speaker 3: in Todung go vote. If you don't vote, no moaning

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Speaker 3: for the next four years. Quarterbars five on Newstalk ZB.

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Speaker 1: Wheels on the bus go round and bound, round and bound,

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Speaker 1: round and bound.

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Speaker 3: The wheels on the bus go round and I just

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Speaker 3: want you to be one hundred percent confident in your

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Speaker 3: own mind. It was not me who called for this music.

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Speaker 3: It was Ants this evening. So in forty eight hours,

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Speaker 3: when the song is still sucking your head, you can't

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Speaker 3: sleep at night. It's haunting your dreams. Do not blame me,

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Speaker 3: blame ANTS. Horizons Regional Council wants to know if you

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Speaker 3: want to listen to some bangers while you are riding

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Speaker 3: the bus. I think we can all agree that is

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Speaker 3: not a banger. The Council, however, says that some connect

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Speaker 3: bus drivers want to play music on the on board speakers,

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Speaker 3: but they're not sure if this is going to annoy

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Speaker 3: the passengers. So if you're in Parveston North, in huang

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Speaker 3: Nui or in Fielding, you can tell the council through

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Speaker 3: a survey whether you're up for some sick tunes on

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Speaker 3: your bus ride. Mark Reid is Horizons Regional Council, Manager

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Speaker 3: of Transport Services and as with us this evening, Kilder, Mark,

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Speaker 3: are you yeah, very good? Thanks? What kind of music

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Speaker 3: to the bus drivers want to play?

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Speaker 21: Hey, look it's a range at the moment, and a

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Speaker 21: lot of them like to play radio stations serious things.

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Speaker 21: Some of them like to not play anything at all,

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Speaker 21: So we really just want to go to provide some

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Speaker 21: clients for them and and the rest of the rest

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Speaker 21: of the people on board as well.

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Speaker 3: Well, maybe we could just get news SOS b B easy,

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Speaker 3: wouldn't it just get that? Look, we will get our

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Speaker 3: technical people in fact ants could probably do with a

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Speaker 3: couple of days out of the office. I can send

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Speaker 3: them down your way. He could come and make sure

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Speaker 3: that news soroks he be is the only station that

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Speaker 3: any of your buses get you to be playing that

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Speaker 3: no complaints from the passengers ever, will be delighted where

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Speaker 3: you go.

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Speaker 21: I mean I have I have heard from from the

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Speaker 21: early early returns that no one's said.

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Speaker 9: You have You have.

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Speaker 3: Technically minded people in the Horizons region who saw that

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Speaker 3: the questionnaire was very specifically and explicitly about music on

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Speaker 3: the bus. So so other buses actually set up to

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Speaker 3: play music?

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Speaker 21: Yeah, so all that buses can and some currently bus

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Speaker 21: drivers play at the front. We'll play it throughout the

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Speaker 21: bus and so they're all they're all capable. It's more

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Speaker 21: just how we want to do this going forward.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, have people been complaining about bus drivers playing music?

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Speaker 21: So far, not so much complaining. So what this has

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Speaker 21: really come about? So recently a lot of our buses

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Speaker 21: of Thomas North and Moves have been electric and so

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Speaker 21: great to have these these nice, new comfortable buses for

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Speaker 21: excretion people. Hey, actually they're really quiet. Yeah, sort of

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Speaker 21: a bit a bit like sort of sending a silent

875
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Speaker 21: elevator with you know, it doesn't know people who are

876
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Speaker 21: not really sure who they are, and that's sort of feeling.

877
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Speaker 21: So that's that's been more the driver behind us rather

878
00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:45,640
Speaker 21: than complaint to around what music has been being played.

879
00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:50,440
Speaker 21: But yeah, just some more thinking around well how should

880
00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:50,920
Speaker 21: we approach this?

881
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Speaker 3: So I'm just going to readly for one the three

882
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Speaker 3: questions you're asking in the survey. Number one, do people

883
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Speaker 3: mind music being played on the bus? Number two? If

884
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Speaker 3: music has played, what genres, playlist radio stations should be played?

885
00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:02,560
Speaker 3: Number three? Should there be different rules for music at

886
00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:04,840
Speaker 3: different times of the day and or year. But the

887
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Speaker 3: thing is on the bus these days, most people we headphones,

888
00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:07,799
Speaker 3: don't they.

889
00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:09,359
Speaker 9: That was true.

890
00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:11,080
Speaker 21: You get on the bus and most people are buried

891
00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:15,960
Speaker 21: in their phone or reading something on that and listen

892
00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:18,560
Speaker 21: to their own music. So just sitting the element too

893
00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:21,560
Speaker 21: and I guess whether it's silent or music playing doesn't

894
00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:23,160
Speaker 21: stop those people doing that either way.

895
00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:23,680
Speaker 2: Yeah.

896
00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:26,520
Speaker 3: Nice. So look, I appreciate that you can juggle a

897
00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:28,440
Speaker 3: few balls at the same time, but I'm sure there

898
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Speaker 3: are a couple of people out there saying, come on,

899
00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:33,719
Speaker 3: is this absolutely the most important thing the council needs

900
00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:35,400
Speaker 3: to be doing right now? Don't you need to be

901
00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:37,360
Speaker 3: focusing on other things? What do you What do you

902
00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:37,759
Speaker 3: say to that?

903
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Speaker 12: Oh?

904
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Speaker 21: I mean, yeah, there there are always always time for

905
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Speaker 21: a various brands of issues, and you know, this is

906
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Speaker 21: one that that has peaked interest, believe it or not,

907
00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:54,799
Speaker 21: around our council table, and definitely one that I guess

908
00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:58,360
Speaker 21: we want to just make sure we provide people the

909
00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:00,640
Speaker 21: opportunity to provide them feedback on. And look, we've already

910
00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:04,680
Speaker 21: got seventy odd people having provided some feedback and it's

911
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Speaker 21: in the space of a few hours since this afternoon,

912
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Speaker 21: so it's obviously a matter that people people are interested in.

913
00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:13,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's probably a better turnout than the toad in

914
00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:15,560
Speaker 3: our city councils having their elections. Thank you very much, Mark,

915
00:46:15,640 --> 00:46:17,840
Speaker 3: and good luck. I think it's a great idea. What

916
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:21,200
Speaker 3: would I choose? I reckon Kanye West first six albums

917
00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:23,239
Speaker 3: on repeat and I reckon it should be thrown over

918
00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:25,239
Speaker 3: to the bus driver right so the bus. Each bus

919
00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:27,479
Speaker 3: driver should be able to make a call. It's my bus.

920
00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:29,680
Speaker 3: This is the music that I'm playing. I'm in charge

921
00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:31,719
Speaker 3: of the stereo. That's the end of that. Ninety two

922
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Speaker 3: ninety two is our text number twenty two past five.

923
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Speaker 2: Digging deeper into the day's headlines, it's Jack Dame on

924
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Speaker 2: Heather duper Seeland drive with one New Zealand.

925
00:46:42,120 --> 00:46:44,080
Speaker 1: Let's get connected these talks that'd be.

926
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Speaker 3: There is no doubt there are many things in our

927
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Speaker 3: society and in our lives that are over regulated. There's

928
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Speaker 3: no doubt there are plenty of improvements that we can

929
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Speaker 3: and should make and land you slaw and consenting and

930
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Speaker 3: constructing new homes. But given New Zealand's history with col

931
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Speaker 3: damp poorly constructed homes, you would really think we'd have

932
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Speaker 3: learned a lesson by now. Building and Construction Minister Chris

933
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Speaker 3: Pink confirmed earlier this week he was considering a rollback

934
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Speaker 3: of the standards for insulation the New h one standards

935
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Speaker 3: over concerns that they're too expensive. Construction costs in New

936
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Speaker 3: Zealand are already among the highest in the world, and

937
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Speaker 3: the Minister suggested the insulation requirements that were only introduced

938
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Speaker 3: last year could add between forty and fifty thousand to

939
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Speaker 3: the cost of a new build. But the cost for

940
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Speaker 3: a standard home apparently isn't that high. Certified Builders reckon

941
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Speaker 3: ten to twenty thousand dollars is more normal for building

942
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Speaker 3: a standard home up to the H one standards, and

943
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Speaker 3: while sure that is a lot of money, if that

944
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Speaker 3: is the cost of ensuring a warm, dry, safe home

945
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Speaker 3: for the next eighty or one hundred or one hundred

946
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Speaker 3: and fifty years, it seems pretty reasonable to me. The

947
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Speaker 3: savings on heating costs alone are estimated to be forty

948
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Speaker 3: percent for a house built to H one standards, and

949
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Speaker 3: for anyone with an energy bill as high as my

950
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Speaker 3: families right now, you would make money back in no time.

951
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Speaker 3: Certified Builders doesn't support rolling the standards back, and the

952
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Speaker 3: New Zealand Institute of Building Surveyors has now come out.

953
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Speaker 3: They came out this afternoon announcing yep, they don't want

954
00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:15,160
Speaker 3: to roll them back either. Quote the benefits of adhering

955
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Speaker 3: to the updated insulation standards far out weigh the costs

956
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Speaker 3: associated with their implementation. It is not actually clear who

957
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Speaker 3: does support the move at this stage, not actually clear

958
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Speaker 3: how many homes might not be built. But for a

959
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Speaker 3: regulation that costs ten or twenty thousand dollars, it would

960
00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:34,840
Speaker 3: just be so dumb. It would be so stupid to

961
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Speaker 3: deliberately start building crappier buildings for the sake of a

962
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Speaker 3: few short term savings while setting ourselves up for decades

963
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Speaker 3: of higher bills and worse health outcomes Tee ninety two,

964
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Speaker 3: ninety two. I love music on the buses. One day

965
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Speaker 3: I had a driver that had some jazz playing. It

966
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Speaker 3: was in Wellington. It was great. Ooh, I really think

967
00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:57,080
Speaker 3: the roll in my dice on your jazz that the

968
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Speaker 3: problem with jazz is it really divides people, you know,

969
00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:02,920
Speaker 3: it really divides people because the thing with jazz is

970
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Speaker 3: they're deliberately playing the wrong notes, aren't they. So that's

971
00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:09,439
Speaker 3: that's tricky. Get this jack. Maybe they could just play

972
00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:14,520
Speaker 3: a bus engine noise. Maybe they could that's an option.

973
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Speaker 3: If you've got some thoughts on what they should be

974
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Speaker 3: playing on the bus in the Horizons region. By all means,

975
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Speaker 3: flick us a text or send me an email. After

976
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Speaker 3: five point thirty this evening, we will be counting down

977
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Speaker 3: to the Warriors playing Canberra tonight. It's very much getting

978
00:49:28,080 --> 00:49:30,320
Speaker 3: into that part of the season whereas Warriors fans, we

979
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Speaker 3: start doing the mathematical equations. Can they make the top

980
00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:36,239
Speaker 3: eight plus? Of course the All Blacks playing Fiji in

981
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Speaker 3: San Diego. News is next, though you're with Jack Dame.

982
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Speaker 3: This is news dogs.

983
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Speaker 9: He'd be.

984
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Speaker 1: The day's newsweakers.

985
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Speaker 2: Talk to Jack first, Jackdame on hither due to see

986
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Speaker 2: allan drive with one New Zealand.

987
00:49:50,760 --> 00:49:54,840
Speaker 1: Let's get connected news talk, said be Donald from the

988
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Speaker 1: double side of Western.

989
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Speaker 10: Yes, budding downtown your Fish Street.

990
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Speaker 3: Everybody had bunnet. Well, all the banks are racing each

991
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Speaker 3: other now after that consumer price index darter earlier this week,

992
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Speaker 3: b in Set and key we Bank have become the

993
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Speaker 3: latest banks to announce cuts to their mor good rates.

994
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Speaker 21: Today.

995
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Speaker 3: I'll tell you a bit more about that after six

996
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Speaker 3: o'clock this evening. Before six the sports huddle this week,

997
00:50:20,120 --> 00:50:22,680
Speaker 3: Paul Allison and Clay Wilson with us counting down to

998
00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:24,960
Speaker 3: the Warriors tonight and then the All Blacks in San

999
00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:28,320
Speaker 3: Diego tomorrow afternoon. Right now, it's twenty five to six

1000
00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:31,839
Speaker 3: tee and a doctoral student at Auckland University says our

1001
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Speaker 3: high performance athletes shouldn't have to choose between their sporting

1002
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Speaker 3: careers and their education. Steve Roberts has been speaking to

1003
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Speaker 3: up and coming athletes both here in New Zealand and

1004
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Speaker 3: in the college sport mad USA is part of his research.

1005
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Speaker 12: Now.

1006
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Speaker 3: He says that the athletes here are missing out on

1007
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Speaker 3: educational opportunities because our high level sporting organizations and universities

1008
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Speaker 3: aren't working together. Steve Roberts is with us this evening. Hi,

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Speaker 3: Steve check, So, why do you think our athletes are

1010
00:50:58,760 --> 00:50:59,239
Speaker 3: missing out?

1011
00:51:01,320 --> 00:51:03,919
Speaker 9: It's just it's the system they have and what they're

1012
00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:08,680
Speaker 9: left with once their careers are over. They don't seem

1013
00:51:08,760 --> 00:51:12,800
Speaker 9: to have and be getting the same opportunities that the

1014
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Speaker 9: American interviewees I had are getting and can realize.

1015
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Speaker 3: I mean, I've got mates in the US who've played

1016
00:51:20,719 --> 00:51:23,520
Speaker 3: Division one basketball and that kind of thing who were

1017
00:51:23,640 --> 00:51:28,520
Speaker 3: just like basically able to access facilities that professional athletes

1018
00:51:28,560 --> 00:51:30,960
Speaker 3: in New Zealand could only dream of. But spell it

1019
00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:34,480
Speaker 3: out for us. What are the facilities for athletes in

1020
00:51:34,560 --> 00:51:37,560
Speaker 3: the US college system like compared to the facilities here.

1021
00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:41,920
Speaker 9: Oh, it's not even it's not even comparable.

1022
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Speaker 12: You know.

1023
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Speaker 9: Now all Blacks don't even have facilities like that. It

1024
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Speaker 9: goes further than that. The Yankees don't even have facilities

1025
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Speaker 9: that some of these college teams have. It's the resources

1026
00:51:54,880 --> 00:51:59,399
Speaker 9: that they can put behind you and another world. Yeah,

1027
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Speaker 9: it's difficult to understand if you don't know.

1028
00:52:02,680 --> 00:52:04,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's it. I mean, we do see some New

1029
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Speaker 3: Zealanders go to the US on college scholarships to study

1030
00:52:08,600 --> 00:52:12,040
Speaker 3: over there and access those high performance facilities. But what

1031
00:52:12,160 --> 00:52:15,840
Speaker 3: do you think in an ideal scenario, we could be

1032
00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:16,960
Speaker 3: doing better in New Zealand.

1033
00:52:18,040 --> 00:52:21,000
Speaker 9: You know, we have the pieces to give an experience

1034
00:52:21,160 --> 00:52:23,680
Speaker 9: like the US. It's just a matter of how we

1035
00:52:23,880 --> 00:52:29,760
Speaker 9: arrange those pieces. We have the universities, you know, if

1036
00:52:29,800 --> 00:52:35,200
Speaker 9: we compare what universities have to national sports organizations. You know,

1037
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Speaker 9: if you look at the Blues, the Blues have a

1038
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Speaker 9: strength and conditioning team of a couple of people and

1039
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Speaker 9: a couple of physios, and you know, the University of

1040
00:52:43,719 --> 00:52:48,560
Speaker 9: Auckland has a school dedicated to that. They have a

1041
00:52:48,680 --> 00:52:54,040
Speaker 9: school dedicated to nutrition, to sports science, to all of

1042
00:52:54,120 --> 00:52:57,880
Speaker 9: those things. It's you have to be able to access

1043
00:52:58,000 --> 00:53:01,200
Speaker 9: those types of things in the development from the development

1044
00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:04,040
Speaker 9: chain to make it worthwhile for them.

1045
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Speaker 3: Do you reckon there are sports that are especially well

1046
00:53:06,920 --> 00:53:09,440
Speaker 3: suited to working more closely with universities.

1047
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Speaker 9: Yeah, there are, I'd probably say, well, you know, especially

1048
00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:19,279
Speaker 9: the ones in New Zealand that don't need to send

1049
00:53:19,320 --> 00:53:23,400
Speaker 9: people to the US because that's kids who go off

1050
00:53:23,440 --> 00:53:26,760
Speaker 9: to the US. But those US schools are essentially paying

1051
00:53:27,560 --> 00:53:33,239
Speaker 9: to develop our athletes. That's a system that does it

1052
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Speaker 9: for the rest of the world. You know, we go.

1053
00:53:34,920 --> 00:53:38,000
Speaker 9: I looked at that kid from the University of Wisconsin.

1054
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Speaker 9: It's the swimmer that just swam the fastest fifty meter

1055
00:53:41,880 --> 00:53:46,960
Speaker 9: freestyle in New Zealand history out of the University of Wisconsin.

1056
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Speaker 1: Yeah.

1057
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's always going to be hard. I

1058
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Speaker 3: would have thought for our universities to compete for the

1059
00:53:52,520 --> 00:53:57,160
Speaker 3: NCAA environment over there. But what about the educational side

1060
00:53:57,160 --> 00:54:01,799
Speaker 3: of things? Why is giving young athletes any education alongside

1061
00:54:01,840 --> 00:54:03,400
Speaker 3: supporting their training so important?

1062
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Speaker 9: Yeah, it's quite an it's quite an involved question that

1063
00:54:07,440 --> 00:54:10,719
Speaker 9: because you know, one from a training point of view,

1064
00:54:10,760 --> 00:54:14,279
Speaker 9: I'd much prefer my athletes show up for practice having

1065
00:54:14,320 --> 00:54:17,160
Speaker 9: sat in a classroom that's their condition, than being out

1066
00:54:17,239 --> 00:54:19,959
Speaker 9: on their feed all day working a laboring job. Yeah,

1067
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Speaker 9: you know, that's common sense to want that to turn

1068
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Speaker 9: up to your practice. The other one is opportunity after

1069
00:54:28,040 --> 00:54:32,640
Speaker 9: after sport, and the circular flow of money that comes

1070
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Speaker 9: from education. You know, a degree is worth one point

1071
00:54:37,800 --> 00:54:41,600
Speaker 9: five million dollars more in your working life than someone

1072
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Speaker 9: that doesn't have one. Yeah, you know, so access to those.

1073
00:54:45,320 --> 00:54:48,360
Speaker 9: A master's is two point five and a PhD is

1074
00:54:48,440 --> 00:54:51,960
Speaker 9: three point five million more. So creating that type of

1075
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Speaker 9: alumni and that kind of circular motion of achievement, academics

1076
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Speaker 9: and sport money, it all come back on itself and

1077
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Speaker 9: it's self sustaining.

1078
00:55:02,360 --> 00:55:02,560
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1079
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Speaker 3: Yeah, oh that's really interesting. Thank you so much, Steve,

1080
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Speaker 3: really appreciate your time. Steve Roberts as a doctoral student

1081
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Speaker 3: at Auckland University's Faculty of Education and Social Work. It's

1082
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Speaker 3: interesting I was working in the US when Steven Adams

1083
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Speaker 3: was studying and playing basketball, and he ended up graduating,

1084
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Speaker 3: as I think they called him a student scholar or

1085
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Speaker 3: an athlete scholar, like compared to lots of the other

1086
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Speaker 3: people who were on basketball scholarships. He apparently did quite

1087
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Speaker 3: well in the academic department. Although I don't know if

1088
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Speaker 3: something tells me he's probably going to be okay, probably

1089
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Speaker 3: not going to be out there looking for a job

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Speaker 3: anytime soon. You're hoping that Steven Adams has earned a

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Speaker 3: few million and banked that away by now nineteen to

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Speaker 3: six on news doorg zb the.

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Speaker 22: You give him an opportunity, and that's true. Really harder

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Speaker 22: the last three to four weeks, you know, look as

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00:56:06,600 --> 00:56:10,640
Speaker 22: hell about great opportunities for some from debutants go and

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00:56:11,760 --> 00:56:12,560
Speaker 22: show their challenge.

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Speaker 3: Oh the Futuresky, We're going to win.

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Speaker 21: I don't think anyone can hide that fact. We're going

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00:56:17,800 --> 00:56:18,040
Speaker 21: to win.

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00:56:18,760 --> 00:56:19,719
Speaker 1: We know what's ahead of us.

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Speaker 8: Well, I'd always want Artie Savia in my team, and

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00:56:22,200 --> 00:56:25,080
Speaker 8: I'm sure the Hurricanes do. This isn't the worst possible outcome.

1105
00:56:25,160 --> 00:56:26,920
Speaker 8: Check at least he's not going to the Blues.

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Speaker 3: Sports huddle with us. This evening, newstalks 'b sports news

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00:56:31,360 --> 00:56:34,520
Speaker 3: director Clay Wilson and News dooks 'b rugby commentator Paul

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00:56:34,560 --> 00:56:37,960
Speaker 3: Allison call Uarda were calder Jack Jack, and let's start

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00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:40,080
Speaker 3: off with the Warriors. This evening ten o'clock they're up

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00:56:40,080 --> 00:56:43,120
Speaker 3: against the Raiders and Clay It's a tough ask. Are

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00:56:43,200 --> 00:56:44,840
Speaker 3: they stuffed without Tahu Harris?

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00:56:45,640 --> 00:56:45,839
Speaker 12: Ah?

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00:56:46,640 --> 00:56:48,920
Speaker 23: Stuffed and what context? Stuffed in terms of making the

1114
00:56:49,000 --> 00:56:51,759
Speaker 23: top eight or stuff in terms well both winning a premiership.

1115
00:56:52,480 --> 00:56:54,480
Speaker 23: In terms of winning a premiership, I think they was

1116
00:56:54,719 --> 00:56:55,720
Speaker 23: they were already up against.

1117
00:56:55,960 --> 00:56:58,080
Speaker 3: Winning a premiership is very trucking.

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00:56:58,120 --> 00:56:59,840
Speaker 23: Yeah, and making the eight, I don't think so. I

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00:57:00,000 --> 00:57:02,359
Speaker 23: I think the NRL is such an open competition. There's

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Speaker 23: seven rounds to go still and there are only three

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00:57:04,760 --> 00:57:07,839
Speaker 23: points out of it. I wouldn't be shocked either way.

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00:57:07,960 --> 00:57:10,640
Speaker 3: If they make it, no surprise. If they don't make it,

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00:57:10,719 --> 00:57:11,440
Speaker 3: no surprise either.

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Speaker 23: Those teams around the eight, inside the eight, there's not

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Speaker 23: much between them. And Yes, while he's a key player,

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00:57:18,040 --> 00:57:20,400
Speaker 23: I think they've got enough depth there and enough good

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00:57:20,440 --> 00:57:22,000
Speaker 23: players in the team they could still make it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah right, I mean, I mean that's the thing with

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00:57:23,760 --> 00:57:25,800
Speaker 3: the Warriors, right they might they could or they could

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00:57:25,840 --> 00:57:26,280
Speaker 3: be disaster.

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00:57:26,400 --> 00:57:26,760
Speaker 5: We never know.

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00:57:26,840 --> 00:57:27,640
Speaker 3: That's why we love them.

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Speaker 21: Paul.

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Speaker 3: How much do you think they're hurting from losing Tohu

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00:57:31,120 --> 00:57:32,160
Speaker 3: Harris for the rest of the season.

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Speaker 24: Oh, that'll hurt them, no doubt about that. Nicol Cole

1137
00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:39,960
Speaker 24: said's not there tonight, neither's Montoya and Jamal Foggerty's back

1138
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Speaker 24: for the Raiders. But you look at where they are

1139
00:57:42,720 --> 00:57:45,000
Speaker 24: in the season. They've had seven wins out of seventeen.

1140
00:57:45,760 --> 00:57:48,560
Speaker 24: Last year you needed thirteen wins to make the top eight.

1141
00:57:48,640 --> 00:57:51,280
Speaker 24: The previous year you needed fourteen. You go back to

1142
00:57:51,320 --> 00:57:54,560
Speaker 24: twenty twenty one, it was ten wins. So they've got

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00:57:54,640 --> 00:57:57,360
Speaker 24: seven games left and five of those teams are above

1144
00:57:57,400 --> 00:57:59,120
Speaker 24: them on the table. We know they're hot and cold.

1145
00:57:59,480 --> 00:58:02,560
Speaker 24: Sometimes they perform superbly well, other times they're at the

1146
00:58:02,600 --> 00:58:05,400
Speaker 24: salar door, so you really start to wonder whereabouts they

1147
00:58:05,480 --> 00:58:08,400
Speaker 24: might be. They need to be consistent. The Raiders are

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00:58:08,440 --> 00:58:11,160
Speaker 24: in a similar position on the table plays right. I mean,

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Speaker 24: they can certainly still make the top eight, but every

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00:58:14,520 --> 00:58:16,880
Speaker 24: win from here on is pretty well crucial. I think

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00:58:16,920 --> 00:58:19,160
Speaker 24: they need at least five out of the next seven

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00:58:19,560 --> 00:58:21,480
Speaker 24: next to win it. And if you don't do that,

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00:58:21,600 --> 00:58:23,560
Speaker 24: and the fact that, as I said, five of the

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00:58:23,720 --> 00:58:26,720
Speaker 24: remaining seven games they've got teams above them on the table,

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00:58:26,880 --> 00:58:28,680
Speaker 24: it's not going to be an easy ask. And I

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00:58:28,760 --> 00:58:32,120
Speaker 24: think you talk about Tahu Harris his loss will probably

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00:58:32,720 --> 00:58:34,840
Speaker 24: certainly hurt them. But we've seen in the passmen they

1158
00:58:35,200 --> 00:58:38,600
Speaker 24: had some key players out. That's when sometimes, just sometimes

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00:58:38,640 --> 00:58:39,520
Speaker 24: they perform their best.

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Speaker 3: Paul, looking at that squad for tomorrow's All Bags match

1161
00:58:43,200 --> 00:58:45,800
Speaker 3: against Fiji in San Diego, of course, do you reckon

1162
00:58:46,160 --> 00:58:49,680
Speaker 3: there is a risk that Raiser is maybe taking Fiji

1163
00:58:49,960 --> 00:58:52,760
Speaker 3: just a little lightly with such a debutante heavy squad.

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Speaker 24: Well, he's got to play them somewhere. He's picked thirty

1165
00:58:55,440 --> 00:58:57,840
Speaker 24: two and it added two more, so he's got thirty four.

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Speaker 9: We saw he's very.

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Speaker 24: Consistent in that English series and he has experienced guys

1168
00:59:03,280 --> 00:59:05,880
Speaker 24: and didn't really give any deputantes a chance apart from

1169
00:59:05,920 --> 00:59:09,040
Speaker 24: random are gonna run in that second test. This is

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Speaker 24: the opportunity to do it. Fiji shure. They went really

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00:59:12,360 --> 00:59:14,240
Speaker 24: well at the World Cup last year. They've got a

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Speaker 24: lot of players there from that Fiji and drew a

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Speaker 24: super rugby team.

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Speaker 9: This year.

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Speaker 24: They played Georgia and beat them twenty one twelve. Earlier

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00:59:21,520 --> 00:59:23,880
Speaker 24: this month they got beaten by the Barbars, but they

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Speaker 24: haven't got the same depth of squad as the All Blacks.

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Speaker 24: I don't think he's taking a risk. I think he's

1179
00:59:27,600 --> 00:59:30,760
Speaker 24: doing exactly the right thing, and I think he's got

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00:59:30,800 --> 00:59:33,200
Speaker 24: to blood them somewhere because it doesn't get easier for

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Speaker 24: the All Blacks after this. This will probably be one

1182
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Speaker 24: of the easiest tests that they play in the twenty

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Speaker 24: twenty four calendar season.

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Speaker 3: Oh dangerous words there, poor.

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Speaker 1: Whire you go, paul I.

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Speaker 9: Hopefully it doesn't come back.

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Speaker 3: Annot Yeah, yeah, we'll be cliping up those comments as

1188
00:59:50,720 --> 00:59:53,440
Speaker 3: we speak. Beautiful, Well, what is going to be gameplay

1189
00:59:53,640 --> 00:59:57,000
Speaker 3: from having this game in San Diego outside of a

1190
00:59:57,080 --> 00:59:57,600
Speaker 3: quick buck.

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Speaker 23: Well, every sport in res memory has been after the

1192
01:00:01,400 --> 01:00:05,800
Speaker 23: US market. It's such a massive market financially obviously, the viewers,

1193
01:00:05,880 --> 01:00:10,680
Speaker 23: you can attract, sponsorships, all those things. And yes, while

1194
01:00:11,160 --> 01:00:13,040
Speaker 23: you might argue that rugby is never going to be

1195
01:00:13,120 --> 01:00:15,960
Speaker 23: the NFL, the NBA, the MLB, you know, the big

1196
01:00:16,040 --> 01:00:19,160
Speaker 23: four that dominate in the US and other sports, if

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01:00:19,200 --> 01:00:22,320
Speaker 23: you can gain even just a chunk, a small chunk

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01:00:22,360 --> 01:00:24,720
Speaker 23: of that US market, you know there's a lot to

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Speaker 23: be gained for n z R for going there right so,

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01:00:29,120 --> 01:00:31,840
Speaker 23: and for World Rugby. If they can increase rugby's presence

1201
01:00:31,920 --> 01:00:34,600
Speaker 23: in the US, you know that that increases things for

1202
01:00:34,720 --> 01:00:37,960
Speaker 23: rugby globally. So I get why they're doing it.

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Speaker 3: I just prefer to say the game and suver. I know,

1204
01:00:41,040 --> 01:00:42,919
Speaker 3: I know they're making money. I know this might well

1205
01:00:42,960 --> 01:00:44,520
Speaker 3: make them a whole lot more money in the Fijian

1206
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Speaker 3: Union than they would if they were hosting this game

1207
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Speaker 3: in Fiji. I just it's always going to be a

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01:00:50,720 --> 01:00:54,240
Speaker 3: massive off Broadway sport in the US. They try and

1209
01:00:54,560 --> 01:00:57,640
Speaker 3: explain the breakdown, try and explain, Oh, the scrum has

1210
01:00:57,680 --> 01:01:00,520
Speaker 3: to reset because this prop didn't have his buy right, Like,

1211
01:01:00,680 --> 01:01:02,600
Speaker 3: try and explain this to and it's not going to.

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Speaker 23: Warn American football. You know, we compare American football to rugby.

1213
01:01:06,240 --> 01:01:07,600
Speaker 23: It's just so dominant.

1214
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Speaker 3: But as a spectacle, American football a TV and made

1215
01:01:10,200 --> 01:01:14,120
Speaker 3: for TV spectacle, it is arguably better suited to introducing

1216
01:01:14,160 --> 01:01:15,960
Speaker 3: it to a new audience. I'm not I love rugby.

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01:01:16,000 --> 01:01:18,040
Speaker 23: I'm just saying I guess New Zealand rugby in the

1218
01:01:18,440 --> 01:01:20,920
Speaker 23: position they're in, are looking at they're really trying to

1219
01:01:20,960 --> 01:01:23,480
Speaker 23: maximize what they're doing financially. I mean, you only have

1220
01:01:23,520 --> 01:01:25,480
Speaker 23: to look at what's going on with the governance stuff

1221
01:01:25,600 --> 01:01:28,439
Speaker 23: right that they're trying to get financially back on track,

1222
01:01:28,640 --> 01:01:30,360
Speaker 23: and this is this is part of that whether some

1223
01:01:30,440 --> 01:01:32,320
Speaker 23: people like it or not. I would prefer to see

1224
01:01:32,360 --> 01:01:33,800
Speaker 23: the game in suber as well. I'm sure a lot

1225
01:01:33,800 --> 01:01:34,479
Speaker 23: of Keiwis would.

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01:01:34,560 --> 01:01:36,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, we're back with the U Stalk Z'B

1227
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Speaker 3: Sports Huddle in a couple of minutes. Clay Wilson Paul

1228
01:01:38,960 --> 01:01:41,200
Speaker 3: Allison with us this evening. It's thirteen to six.

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Speaker 2: The Friday Sports Huddle with New Zealand Southby's International Realty,

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Speaker 3: Paul Allison Clay Wilson on the huddle this evening. An

1232
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Speaker 3: amazing report from Liam Napier in The Herald Today suggesting

1233
01:01:55,880 --> 01:01:59,320
Speaker 3: that Ardie Savere might be set to leave the Hurricanes

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Speaker 3: and join Mowana Pacifica. In Steve, Paul, what do you think.

1235
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Speaker 24: Well, my understanding, that's exactly what he wants to do

1236
01:02:06,840 --> 01:02:09,680
Speaker 24: and it's just a matter of making that. I think

1237
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Speaker 24: it's an outstanding decision if Moana Pacifica can grab his services.

1238
01:02:13,840 --> 01:02:16,400
Speaker 24: Obviously he's got some own heritage born in Wellington, one

1239
01:02:16,480 --> 01:02:19,320
Speaker 24: hundred and thirty one games or something for the Hurricanes already.

1240
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Speaker 24: You don't get a bigger name signing for Moana Pacifica,

1241
01:02:22,680 --> 01:02:25,240
Speaker 24: who have been really mucked around since they've come into

1242
01:02:25,280 --> 01:02:28,200
Speaker 24: this competition three years ago. They haven't had a stable

1243
01:02:28,280 --> 01:02:30,600
Speaker 24: home base. They've been shoved around all over the place.

1244
01:02:31,320 --> 01:02:33,120
Speaker 24: They finished at the bottom of the table the first

1245
01:02:33,200 --> 01:02:36,440
Speaker 24: couple of seasons. Got four wins this year and got

1246
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Speaker 24: some big names around them, likes of Sir Brian Williams

1247
01:02:39,480 --> 01:02:42,160
Speaker 24: and Michael Jones and Tanomang of the Coach and so

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01:02:42,480 --> 01:02:45,920
Speaker 24: they've got some heavyweight players or ex players that have

1249
01:02:46,000 --> 01:02:48,240
Speaker 24: got a lot of influence and Ardie Savia would be

1250
01:02:48,240 --> 01:02:51,040
Speaker 24: the perfect fit for them to be able to launch

1251
01:02:51,080 --> 01:02:53,520
Speaker 24: them to another level. I think it's a great decision

1252
01:02:53,560 --> 01:02:55,800
Speaker 24: because the Hurricanes, let's face it, they've got a rich

1253
01:02:56,040 --> 01:02:57,840
Speaker 24: you know, the sport for Riches and the loose spwards

1254
01:02:57,840 --> 01:03:01,800
Speaker 24: with Lackey and Jose and Shields and Flanders and the like.

1255
01:03:01,880 --> 01:03:03,480
Speaker 24: So they're not going to miss him too much. He's

1256
01:03:03,520 --> 01:03:05,680
Speaker 24: an outstanding player. But I'll tell you what he's going

1257
01:03:05,720 --> 01:03:08,000
Speaker 24: to be meet early for minor pacificate, then what he

1258
01:03:08,080 --> 01:03:09,320
Speaker 24: probably will be for the Hurricane.

1259
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I can you can only imagine what it would

1260
01:03:11,120 --> 01:03:12,600
Speaker 3: do for that for that franchise play.

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01:03:13,080 --> 01:03:15,160
Speaker 23: Yeah, a massive And I think Artie Severe has talked

1262
01:03:15,160 --> 01:03:18,440
Speaker 23: about this probably I'm sure he has spoken about this already,

1263
01:03:18,440 --> 01:03:20,840
Speaker 23: about how much you love the concept of Mowana and

1264
01:03:21,080 --> 01:03:23,360
Speaker 23: how he could see himself later in his career going there,

1265
01:03:23,680 --> 01:03:25,360
Speaker 23: And I think it makes sense at this time where

1266
01:03:25,360 --> 01:03:29,080
Speaker 23: the Hurricanes are performing well, and like Paul says, I

1267
01:03:29,280 --> 01:03:30,840
Speaker 23: just you know, if there was one position where the

1268
01:03:30,920 --> 01:03:34,480
Speaker 23: Hurricanes are spoiled for good players and young players that

1269
01:03:34,560 --> 01:03:36,520
Speaker 23: are going to play in that position for years to come,

1270
01:03:36,640 --> 01:03:39,640
Speaker 23: it's in the loose forwards. So, you know, while disappointing,

1271
01:03:39,720 --> 01:03:43,800
Speaker 23: I'm a Hurricanes follower fan, but I think it's a

1272
01:03:43,840 --> 01:03:46,400
Speaker 23: great move for him to go to to Mowaana, lead

1273
01:03:46,520 --> 01:03:49,080
Speaker 23: the side and really you know, be a role model

1274
01:03:49,680 --> 01:03:51,120
Speaker 23: for the for those younger So what a.

1275
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Speaker 3: Leader, man, what a leader he's going to I mean

1276
01:03:53,440 --> 01:03:55,560
Speaker 3: he is already obviously, but for that team, you can

1277
01:03:55,680 --> 01:03:57,800
Speaker 3: just imagine that, you know, what kind of influence he's

1278
01:03:57,840 --> 01:03:58,760
Speaker 3: going to have, Yeah.

1279
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Speaker 23: Just like you think about the manner he have in

1280
01:04:00,400 --> 01:04:03,280
Speaker 23: that team, but also the ip that he brings, yeah,

1281
01:04:03,400 --> 01:04:06,760
Speaker 23: in terms of into the trainings, into how they're playing.

1282
01:04:07,160 --> 01:04:09,200
Speaker 23: Those players are just going to follow him and watch

1283
01:04:09,240 --> 01:04:11,400
Speaker 23: what he does with so much interest.

1284
01:04:11,560 --> 01:04:14,000
Speaker 3: So we are less than a week away now, about

1285
01:04:14,000 --> 01:04:16,280
Speaker 3: a week away from the opening ceremony of the Olympics. Paul,

1286
01:04:16,280 --> 01:04:17,600
Speaker 3: where is your height level at?

1287
01:04:19,000 --> 01:04:19,440
Speaker 9: Is building?

1288
01:04:19,720 --> 01:04:22,240
Speaker 24: It's starting to build. I'm really quite excited about some

1289
01:04:22,320 --> 01:04:25,160
Speaker 24: of the New Zealand athletes in Action one hundred and

1290
01:04:25,240 --> 01:04:28,920
Speaker 24: ninety five. We've got ninety seven women's spread across twenty

1291
01:04:29,080 --> 01:04:32,720
Speaker 24: two different sports. Most of those are actually in team

1292
01:04:32,760 --> 01:04:36,760
Speaker 24: sports thirty six footballers and twenty four and rugby sevens,

1293
01:04:36,800 --> 01:04:38,960
Speaker 24: but we're well covered. I think we've actually got a

1294
01:04:39,000 --> 01:04:41,080
Speaker 24: really strong team. And as you get closer in the

1295
01:04:41,160 --> 01:04:44,040
Speaker 24: action starts, it's only seven days away, sixteen days of glory.

1296
01:04:44,680 --> 01:04:47,080
Speaker 24: They talk about it. I'm really excited by it. I'm

1297
01:04:47,120 --> 01:04:48,440
Speaker 24: not quite sure how they're going to get on on

1298
01:04:48,480 --> 01:04:52,200
Speaker 24: the Sane River though, because I see the Paris met

1299
01:04:52,360 --> 01:04:54,800
Speaker 24: had a bit of a dip there in the last

1300
01:04:55,040 --> 01:04:58,600
Speaker 24: couple of days, and they're saying that if that water

1301
01:04:58,800 --> 01:05:01,800
Speaker 24: isn't clear enough to be able to swimmen, the tri

1302
01:05:02,000 --> 01:05:04,080
Speaker 24: ethlon is going down to a jewethlon.

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Speaker 3: It would be so embarrassing. What do you think, Clay

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Speaker 3: has your has your hype level for the games?

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Speaker 9: Yeah?

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Speaker 23: Like Paul building, and I think it's one of those

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Speaker 23: things here in New Zealand. Once it starts. We get

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Speaker 23: into it because we love our sport and we love

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Speaker 23: to see our Kiwi athletes doing well. And I agree

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Speaker 23: we've got a pretty strong team. I mean, it was

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Speaker 23: so successful, wasn't in Tokyo. I think twenty medals in total,

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Speaker 23: seven goals, and I think we could we could achieve

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Speaker 23: the same kind of success. And it's not just the

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Speaker 23: Kiwi events, it's it's all everything that comes with it.

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Speaker 23: One hundred meters, you know, the pool, all those things.

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Speaker 23: It's great obviously.

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Speaker 3: Becoming an expert of sports that you haven't watched at

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Speaker 3: all for the last yeah it's coming.

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Speaker 6: And the rhythm.

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Speaker 23: Yeah, we all become experts in sports that we've never watched.

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Speaker 23: So definitely looking forward to it with great interest. And

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Speaker 23: it's going to be a great two and a half weeks.

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Speaker 10: Very good.

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Speaker 3: Thanks so much for your time, guys. Play Wilson, Paul Ellison,

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Speaker 3: Huddle this evening.

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Speaker 2: It's six on your smart speaker, on the iHeart app

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Speaker 2: and in your car on your drive home. Heather duplic

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Speaker 2: Alan drive with one New Zealand one Giant Leap for

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Speaker 2: Business News Talk said.

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Speaker 3: B News Talk said, be you with Jack Tame. Customers

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Speaker 3: of some banks appear to be having some issues with

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Speaker 3: their Internet banking and using payWave at the moment. Both

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Speaker 3: ASB and Kiwibanks seem to be affected by this. There's

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Speaker 3: a tweet from Kiwibank that says we're currently aware of

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Speaker 3: an issue for some customers logging into our app or

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Speaker 3: internet banking. We believe this is impacting other businesses across

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Speaker 3: New Zealand from what we can see in our newsroom

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Speaker 3: right now. It is also affecting ABC Radio in Australia,

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Speaker 3: Sky News in the UK as well. There is some

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Speaker 3: suggestion that this has come as a result of an

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Speaker 3: issue with services that are being hosted by Microsoft. Our

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Speaker 3: newsroom is on those, so we're going to bring you

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Speaker 3: the very latest on that shortly. Thanks for your texts,

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Speaker 3: those of you who have the capacity to text, for

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Speaker 3: whom the technology is still working. Jack, the next World

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Speaker 3: Cup is in the US. Makes sense to play now

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Speaker 3: if you want to drum up interest. Plus FIGI got

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Speaker 3: lots of games during Super Rugby Yffair enough I was there.

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Speaker 3: It's Holder Field in Chicago. For the first time the

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Speaker 3: All Blacks played, and I'll never forget going around Chicago

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Speaker 3: interviewing people saying you're excited to see the All Blacks

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Speaker 3: and they'd say who, and I said the All Blacks

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Speaker 3: and they'd say, your team is called the All Blacks,

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Speaker 3: and they say, yeah, it's fine though it's almost six o'clock.

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Speaker 3: You're a Jack Tame, He's us next on News Talk CBS.

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Speaker 9: What's down?

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Speaker 1: What were the major calls and how will it affect

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Speaker 1: the economy?

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Speaker 2: Business questions on the Business Hour with Jack Tam and

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Speaker 2: my Hr.

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Speaker 1: On us Talks AV.

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Speaker 3: We don't have a whole lot of detail at the

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Speaker 3: stage about what has caused this outage, but it's clear

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Speaker 3: that it's affecting lots of different people, lots of different businesses.

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Speaker 3: A Jack, all of our windows, computers have gone down

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Speaker 3: and our office blue screens everywhere at the moment. So

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Speaker 3: so far ASB and key We Banks seem to have

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Speaker 3: been affected by Kewi Bank have put out a statement

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Speaker 3: saying they're team's looking into it as they speak. They're

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Speaker 3: hoping to have it resolved shortly. But from what we

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Speaker 3: can see, it's not just the banks being affected at

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Speaker 3: the moment. ABC Radio and Australia Sky News in the

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Speaker 3: UK have also been affected. So anyway, we're trying to

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Speaker 3: work out exactly what has happened and what is happening

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Speaker 3: and when this is going to be resolved, and of

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Speaker 3: course I will bring you any updates just as soon

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Speaker 3: as they come to hand. Right now, at six minutes

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Speaker 3: past six, Team B and Z and ke We Bank

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Speaker 3: are the latest banks to announce cuts to their mortgage

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Speaker 3: rates today, even if you can't log into the Kewi

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Speaker 3: Bank online banking at the stage, A and Z and

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Speaker 3: Westpac had already dropped their rates earlier in the week,

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Speaker 3: and so ASB is now the only one of the

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Speaker 3: big banks to hold back a cut at this stage.

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Speaker 3: Lee Hodgits is from the Finance and Mortgage Advisors Association

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Speaker 3: Kilder Good Evening, Chach, So what do you reckon? The

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Speaker 3: banks are just looking at that inflation data from the

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Speaker 3: Consumer Price Index earlier this week thinking the time is right.

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Speaker 13: Well, we'd like to hope so consumers have done what's

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Speaker 13: been asked for us. We pull back on spending, and

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Speaker 13: I think everyone's looking for a reward or a life

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Speaker 13: at the end of the tunnel, and that will come

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Speaker 13: in some intrastrate reduction and some relief, hopefully before.

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Speaker 9: The end of the year.

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Speaker 3: So to what extent do you think, given these most

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Speaker 3: recent cuts, the cuts are already essentially baked into retail

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Speaker 3: interest rates.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, well, we're looking at that or the data that's

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Speaker 13: been apparent from the drop in the lending rates anywhere

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Speaker 13: from six months through five year rates at the moment

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Speaker 13: across the board, and you called it out there. Apart

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Speaker 13: from ASP haven't moved at this point, but you know,

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Speaker 13: there's some definite reduction and cuts already calculated into the

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Speaker 13: rates that we're seeing at the moment. So I guess

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Speaker 13: there's a confidence. It's not when the rates will drop,

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Speaker 13: it's when, sorry, not if, but when and also by

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Speaker 13: how much is.

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Speaker 12: That going to be?

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Speaker 3: So, for example, if indeed the Reserve Bank kind of

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Speaker 3: continue on its most recent trajectory, acknowledging that they have

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Speaker 3: kind of moved a little bit in the last six

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Speaker 3: or seven weeks, but if they continue on this trajectory

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Speaker 3: where it looks like a rate cut in November is

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Speaker 3: likely and we get a twenty five point basis cut,

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Speaker 3: are we going to see the banks immediately lower interest

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Speaker 3: rates or do you reckon by that point? If it happens,

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Speaker 3: then it's all going to kind of be locked in well.

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Speaker 13: We're calling for the banks to pass on those infrast

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Speaker 13: rate reductions as soon as as possible. They need to

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Speaker 13: do the right thing by the consumer. We need to

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Speaker 13: see that drop in this year as well. If it

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Speaker 13: does go down point two five percent, we might be

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Speaker 13: hopeful we'll see another drop early next year, but it's

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Speaker 13: a long time is between November and when the Reserve

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Speaker 13: Bank does meet again and check the OCR and the

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Speaker 13: new year.

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Speaker 3: So, if I was to go about refixing my mortgage,

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Speaker 3: would you recommend asking the banks to do better than

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Speaker 3: their advertised rates.

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Speaker 4: Look, you can do that.

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Speaker 13: You're always entitled to ask for a better rate, and

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Speaker 13: also you can consider different factors. We could split mortgages

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Speaker 13: over six or twelve months into a little bit of

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Speaker 13: hedging about what the rates would look like.

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Speaker 4: And look, my.

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Speaker 13: Recommendation coming from an association has gone talk to a

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Speaker 13: professional and get some advice. Mortgage advisors have access to everything,

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Speaker 13: all the rates, They can see where the movements are

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Speaker 13: in the banks, and sometimes they can have a bit

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Speaker 13: of bargaining power there on your behalf because they have

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Speaker 13: all that access of the information at their finger tips,

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Speaker 13: and it's always a good opportunity to talk to someone

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Speaker 13: and get some advice about the best product, the best structure,

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Speaker 13: all the benefits that come with the different products and

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01:11:38,280 --> 01:11:40,599
Speaker 13: loans that you're getting, and get some really good advice

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Speaker 13: and you'll get some good outcomes from that going down

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Speaker 13: that pathway as well.

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Speaker 3: How is the sentiment in your industry at the moment.

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Speaker 3: How are mortgage advisors feeling about this economic moment?

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Speaker 13: Well, it's tough. Everyone's doing it tough. So we've got

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Speaker 13: homeowners doing it tough with high interst rates, business people,

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Speaker 13: business owners, which most mortgage advisors clearly, So everyone is

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Speaker 13: doing it a little bit tough, and we're just really

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Speaker 13: looking for some positive signs. And I think we are

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Speaker 13: seeing a light at the end of the tunnel, and

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Speaker 13: I think the sentiment will come in and kick in

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Speaker 13: really quickly once we see a reduction in interest rates,

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Speaker 13: even if it's a small one to start with, I

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Speaker 13: think it will just give the consumers confidence in New

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Speaker 13: Zealand a little bit of a breast to take to

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Speaker 13: move ahead and spend a bit more money and be

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Speaker 13: more comfortable and be able to afford the things that

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Speaker 13: we all are struggling to it at the moment.

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Speaker 3: Unfortunately, yeah, I mean we have seen house sales, you know,

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Speaker 3: really significantly drop compared to the rate of sales during

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Speaker 3: more prosperous times. So when there happens, does that directly

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Speaker 3: affect your industry? And that do fewer house sales mean

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Speaker 3: that mortgage advisors go through a much tougher time.

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Speaker 13: Look, they can do, but in the times where they're

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Speaker 13: not writing as much business or helping as many kinds

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Speaker 13: with buying new properties, they're helping people refix, They're helping

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Speaker 13: people work out how they can afford them mortgages, looking

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Speaker 13: at different interest rate opportunities. They're spending a lot of

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Speaker 13: time helping out people and giving people advice. So they're very,

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Speaker 13: very busy at the moment. It may not be new lending,

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Speaker 13: but they're certainly they're looking after their customers and trying

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Speaker 13: to get good outcomes for them so that they can

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Speaker 13: afford and keep the houses. And that's the most important

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Speaker 13: thing of keeping keyweeds in their houses.

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Speaker 12: Right.

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Speaker 3: So, when the Reserve Bank does start cutting rates, how

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Speaker 3: long is that relief likely to filter through to mortgage holders,

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Speaker 3: because a lot of people will be locked in to

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Speaker 3: mortgages that extend beyond that first cut.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, yeah, So, I mean a lot of people have

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Speaker 13: been factoring in even over the last the most part

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Speaker 13: of this year and even early last year, just taking

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Speaker 13: the six or twelve months six s raight. Not many

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Speaker 13: people are brave enough to be sitting out there on

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Speaker 13: variable rates, we found, but we'll find a lot of

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Speaker 13: people are have factored that in. It will be coming

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Speaker 13: off their fixed straight loans towards the end of the year.

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Speaker 13: So with a bit of good advice, you might be

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Speaker 13: able to just work that through and then roll over

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Speaker 13: into a lower rate again. So most of people have

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Speaker 13: come off their very very low rates that they were

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Speaker 13: fixed on over the last few years. So I think

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Speaker 13: a lot of people have been factoring this. Then they've

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Speaker 13: had some advice up, they've been they've wrapped their head

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Speaker 13: around it because we've all had to and yeah, looking

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Speaker 13: forward to that bit of a decline in the interest

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Speaker 13: rates and making it more affordable.

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Speaker 3: Right, Okay, So is there a kind of orthodoxy when

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Speaker 3: it comes to refixing your mortgage in this kind of

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Speaker 3: economic environment, because over the last a few years, a

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Speaker 3: lot more key we have chosen to split up their

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Speaker 3: mortgage than perhaps they did in the past.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 13: True, true. So that's a really good a good point. So,

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Speaker 13: I mean I can talk to that I have about

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Speaker 13: three different mortgages all on the one house, but I

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Speaker 13: fixed the rates over different periods of time. They may

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Speaker 13: have been for a renovation or something else that I've done.

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Speaker 13: But I also make sure that you just you shop around,

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Speaker 13: you look at the interest rates. I've got a great

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Speaker 13: mortgage advisor too, by the way, so that super helpful.

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Speaker 13: But I you just you look at what suits you

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Speaker 13: the best. But there's always options. You don't have to

1519
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Speaker 13: be at one bank and have one loan flips in

1520
01:15:08,280 --> 01:15:11,040
Speaker 13: at one rate. You've got the opportunity to stagger it

1521
01:15:11,080 --> 01:15:13,519
Speaker 13: a little bit, which helps you when things come off

1522
01:15:13,720 --> 01:15:16,400
Speaker 13: or go up. So it's very good strategy.

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Speaker 3: Ah, very good. Hey, thanks so much, Lee, I appreciate

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Speaker 3: your time. That is Lee Hodgets the Finance and Mortgage

1525
01:15:21,760 --> 01:15:25,360
Speaker 3: Advisors Association. Just so you know, we're funding out a

1526
01:15:25,360 --> 01:15:28,080
Speaker 3: little bit more about this major outage of online services

1527
01:15:28,120 --> 01:15:31,600
Speaker 3: around the place. So banks, utilities, media companies across the

1528
01:15:31,800 --> 01:15:35,719
Speaker 3: world have been impacted by this. The issue is reported

1529
01:15:35,760 --> 01:15:39,040
Speaker 3: to be linked to an update by cybersecurity company crowd Strike.

1530
01:15:39,240 --> 01:15:44,160
Speaker 3: Crowd Strike says it quote engineering teams are actively working

1531
01:15:44,240 --> 01:15:48,920
Speaker 3: to resolve the issue. Unquote. Experts are saying CrowdStrike servers

1532
01:15:48,960 --> 01:15:54,000
Speaker 3: are down and facing a BSoD era BSoD come on,

1533
01:15:54,120 --> 01:15:59,320
Speaker 3: what's that an acronym for BSoD Blue screen of death.

1534
01:16:00,040 --> 01:16:02,840
Speaker 3: That essentially means that the system isn't rebooting correctly, but

1535
01:16:02,880 --> 01:16:05,200
Speaker 3: it looks like it is affecting all manner of businesses

1536
01:16:05,280 --> 01:16:07,400
Speaker 3: and digital services. I've got a text here saying Jack

1537
01:16:07,520 --> 01:16:10,479
Speaker 3: at TAG and tag off terminals not working in Auckland.

1538
01:16:10,520 --> 01:16:13,200
Speaker 3: People can't use their cards to swipe in and out

1539
01:16:13,200 --> 01:16:15,720
Speaker 3: when they're using public transport. If you've been affected, let

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Speaker 3: me know. Ninety two ninety two is the text number.

1541
01:16:18,000 --> 01:16:19,400
Speaker 3: Right now, it's quarter past six.

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Speaker 1: Crunching the numbers and getting the results. It's heather duperic

1543
01:16:24,400 --> 01:16:27,720
Speaker 1: ellen with the business hours thanks to my HR, the

1544
01:16:27,960 --> 01:16:29,640
Speaker 1: HR platform for SME on.

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01:16:29,800 --> 01:16:33,599
Speaker 3: Newstalksb eighteen past six. Heyjack, just been to my to ten.

1546
01:16:33,680 --> 01:16:35,760
Speaker 3: Their systems are all down as well, long queues, but

1547
01:16:36,000 --> 01:16:37,960
Speaker 3: it was all worth it for the free chockeys. I'm

1548
01:16:38,000 --> 01:16:39,240
Speaker 3: pleased to hear it. Got to say, this is a

1549
01:16:39,320 --> 01:16:44,160
Speaker 3: great advertisement for not relying solely on digital currency, isn't it? Anyway?

1550
01:16:44,200 --> 01:16:46,000
Speaker 3: We'll bring you the latest on this outage as we

1551
01:16:46,080 --> 01:16:48,519
Speaker 3: get more information. Time now to catch up with news talks,

1552
01:16:48,520 --> 01:16:51,920
Speaker 3: he'd be Political editor Jason Wall to wrap the political week.

1553
01:16:51,960 --> 01:16:54,400
Speaker 3: And Jason, it has been the week of Darlene Tana,

1554
01:16:54,479 --> 01:16:55,360
Speaker 3: So what happens next?

1555
01:16:55,840 --> 01:16:57,920
Speaker 6: Indeed the week of Darli and Tana that is.

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Speaker 14: She of course started the week with that interview with

1557
01:17:00,800 --> 01:17:03,840
Speaker 14: One News where she basically threw down the Gordon Lin

1558
01:17:03,920 --> 01:17:06,400
Speaker 14: said that she was still considering her options when it

1559
01:17:06,520 --> 01:17:09,080
Speaker 14: came to staying in parliament and how she was the

1560
01:17:09,160 --> 01:17:13,040
Speaker 14: only one here that could blend Tilmari, politics and science

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01:17:13,080 --> 01:17:15,400
Speaker 14: all together, so it very much sounded like she was staying.

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01:17:15,720 --> 01:17:17,640
Speaker 14: And then of course where she said that she had

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01:17:18,160 --> 01:17:19,800
Speaker 14: talked to the Clerk of the House about where she

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01:17:19,920 --> 01:17:22,920
Speaker 14: could stay in parliament if she was an independent, it

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01:17:23,040 --> 01:17:26,120
Speaker 14: very much sounds like she's not going anywhere with this one.

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01:17:26,200 --> 01:17:27,680
Speaker 14: And of course we got the news this week that

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Speaker 14: her husband's company, which was at the center of these

1568
01:17:30,280 --> 01:17:35,040
Speaker 14: allegations around migrant exploitation, had indeed gone into liquidation, basically

1569
01:17:35,160 --> 01:17:37,880
Speaker 14: proving that that old adage all press is good press

1570
01:17:38,040 --> 01:17:40,560
Speaker 14: not quite the case in this time round. So we

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01:17:40,640 --> 01:17:43,479
Speaker 14: will get more of an we'll get more information on

1572
01:17:43,600 --> 01:17:47,280
Speaker 14: this on Tuesday when Parliament starts sitting, so we're likely

1573
01:17:47,400 --> 01:17:51,719
Speaker 14: to see if darleyn Tana comes into the debating chamber

1574
01:17:51,800 --> 01:17:54,519
Speaker 14: and where she sits and where if she has any

1575
01:17:54,600 --> 01:17:57,639
Speaker 14: sort of involvement or any sort of deal with Tipati Marii.

1576
01:17:57,720 --> 01:18:00,240
Speaker 14: We know this has happened before with Mika fighting and

1577
01:18:00,320 --> 01:18:03,439
Speaker 14: it's not completely out of the question. It's something that

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01:18:03,560 --> 01:18:06,720
Speaker 14: the Deputy Prime Minister Winston Peters has raised as a

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01:18:06,800 --> 01:18:09,320
Speaker 14: prospect as well. So we'll be watching that with great

1580
01:18:09,400 --> 01:18:11,760
Speaker 14: interest to see where that gets to a.

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Speaker 3: Lot of very happy government ministers as inflation rates dropped,

1582
01:18:16,240 --> 01:18:18,400
Speaker 3: some maybe got a little bit ahead of themselves.

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01:18:18,840 --> 01:18:22,519
Speaker 14: Yes, indeed too actually quite important government ministers when it

1584
01:18:22,560 --> 01:18:26,320
Speaker 14: comes to the old bean counting. The Associate Finance Ministers

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01:18:26,400 --> 01:18:31,000
Speaker 14: David Seymour and Shane Goldens both actually basically came as

1586
01:18:31,040 --> 01:18:34,840
Speaker 14: close to giving the Reserve Bank direction as you could

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01:18:34,880 --> 01:18:37,519
Speaker 14: possibly come. I mean, I would argue that Shane Johns

1588
01:18:37,560 --> 01:18:39,960
Speaker 14: even crossed the line where he said basically that it's

1589
01:18:40,000 --> 01:18:42,720
Speaker 14: time for the Reserve Bank to start cutting rates, and

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01:18:42,800 --> 01:18:46,120
Speaker 14: David Seymour said that relief is required, which technically you're

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01:18:46,160 --> 01:18:48,360
Speaker 14: not allowed to do as a government minister, and many,

1592
01:18:48,720 --> 01:18:51,320
Speaker 14: especially Nikola Willis, has been tiptoeing around it but has

1593
01:18:51,400 --> 01:18:54,120
Speaker 14: never actually come close. So they'll be very happy to

1594
01:18:54,200 --> 01:18:58,040
Speaker 14: see this three point three percent inflation reading. And of

1595
01:18:58,080 --> 01:19:00,240
Speaker 14: course we had Capital Economics which was the first first

1596
01:19:00,240 --> 01:19:02,479
Speaker 14: economic firm to come out and say that they think

1597
01:19:02,520 --> 01:19:04,799
Speaker 14: the Reserve Bank is going to cut rates in August.

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01:19:04,880 --> 01:19:07,160
Speaker 14: A lot of the other retail banks are still saying

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Speaker 14: that it's probably towards the end of the year, probably

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Speaker 14: more likely to be November, but we do know with

1601
01:19:12,720 --> 01:19:14,920
Speaker 14: monetary policy, and makes it a heck of a lot

1602
01:19:15,000 --> 01:19:18,320
Speaker 14: easier to govern when mortgage rates are cheaper and money

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01:19:18,400 --> 01:19:20,760
Speaker 14: is cheaper, So they'll be crossing their fingers, toes and

1604
01:19:20,800 --> 01:19:23,639
Speaker 14: everything in between that Adrian or finally pulls the trigger

1605
01:19:23,680 --> 01:19:24,080
Speaker 14: on this one.

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Speaker 9: Yeah.

1607
01:19:24,760 --> 01:19:26,559
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's going to be really intriguing a to see

1608
01:19:26,600 --> 01:19:28,679
Speaker 3: how that plays out over the next couple of months.

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01:19:28,840 --> 01:19:30,800
Speaker 3: Far Mack has been in the headlines as well as

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01:19:30,920 --> 01:19:33,000
Speaker 3: has an unapologetic David Seymour.

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Speaker 14: Why is that unapologetic? Indeed, it started the week where

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Speaker 14: the start of the week, it was actually midway through

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Speaker 14: the week where he said that he had instructed FARMAC

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01:19:41,880 --> 01:19:44,880
Speaker 14: to remove its focus on the Treaty of Waitangi when

1615
01:19:44,920 --> 01:19:48,080
Speaker 14: it came to distributing its medicines, and it's the focus

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01:19:48,120 --> 01:19:50,800
Speaker 14: of what it does as an organization. This of course

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01:19:51,240 --> 01:19:53,320
Speaker 14: caught the irk of many a people, and of course

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01:19:53,720 --> 01:19:57,120
Speaker 14: one of them is Anthony Jordan, who was a board member,

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01:19:57,280 --> 01:20:00,880
Speaker 14: but he has since resigned, citing this decision to remove

1620
01:20:00,920 --> 01:20:03,920
Speaker 14: its focus as one of the main reasons behind that

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01:20:04,080 --> 01:20:06,799
Speaker 14: that he's resigned. Immediately when I spoke to David Seymour

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Speaker 14: just before, he said that you know, maybe if you're

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Speaker 14: somebody like mister or doctor Jordan, and this is your perspective,

1624
01:20:14,120 --> 01:20:16,519
Speaker 14: it's maybe it's good that you're not there anymore. And

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01:20:16,640 --> 01:20:19,000
Speaker 14: he kind of threw down the gauntlet a lot of

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01:20:19,280 --> 01:20:22,439
Speaker 14: Gauton lit throwing this week Jack to anybody else on

1627
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Speaker 14: that board that said, if you think the same way,

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01:20:24,800 --> 01:20:27,479
Speaker 14: maybe it's time that you leave as well. But Anthony Jordan,

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01:20:27,560 --> 01:20:30,679
Speaker 14: he pointed out, was a labor appointee on that board,

1630
01:20:30,800 --> 01:20:34,760
Speaker 14: is also the partner of Shannon Helbert, who's a labor MP.

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Speaker 14: So it's not really any surprise that he's leaving. He

1632
01:20:37,880 --> 01:20:39,800
Speaker 14: was meant to leave in December anyway, and this is

1633
01:20:39,960 --> 01:20:42,439
Speaker 14: just sort of an impetus for him to go earlier,

1634
01:20:42,479 --> 01:20:42,760
Speaker 14: I think.

1635
01:20:43,160 --> 01:20:46,080
Speaker 3: And how has the attempted assassination of Donald Trump been

1636
01:20:46,080 --> 01:20:46,719
Speaker 3: felt here.

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Speaker 14: Oh, in every crevice of New Zealand politics. I mean,

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01:20:50,400 --> 01:20:52,280
Speaker 14: it's a story that you can't get away from. And

1639
01:20:52,360 --> 01:20:55,439
Speaker 14: of course we had Donald Trump give his speech at

1640
01:20:55,479 --> 01:20:58,840
Speaker 14: the Republican Convention today, a very very long speech it was,

1641
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Speaker 14: which has been covered worldwide over on those news outlets

1642
01:21:03,400 --> 01:21:06,280
Speaker 14: that can actually still report the news because of this

1643
01:21:06,400 --> 01:21:08,800
Speaker 14: outage going on at the moment. But we've had all

1644
01:21:08,880 --> 01:21:11,360
Speaker 14: political parties from New Zealand coming out and saying, you know,

1645
01:21:11,479 --> 01:21:14,000
Speaker 14: condemning violence in any forms. And again, coming back to

1646
01:21:14,120 --> 01:21:16,679
Speaker 14: David Seymour, when I was talking to him just before,

1647
01:21:16,840 --> 01:21:21,680
Speaker 14: I asked him who he thought should be the nominee

1648
01:21:21,920 --> 01:21:25,960
Speaker 14: for thepert or just basically who his pick was, and

1649
01:21:26,120 --> 01:21:28,400
Speaker 14: he came out and said, listen, Michelle Obama, which is

1650
01:21:28,479 --> 01:21:31,000
Speaker 14: something that I just didn't pick at all. He thought

1651
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Speaker 14: that she would be the one. So it would be

1652
01:21:32,800 --> 01:21:36,360
Speaker 14: interesting to see if Biden does step down, she steps up.

1653
01:21:36,520 --> 01:21:38,479
Speaker 3: This time next week, I reckon we'll be talking about

1654
01:21:38,479 --> 01:21:40,400
Speaker 3: the contest for the next candidate. Thank you so much,

1655
01:21:40,479 --> 01:21:43,080
Speaker 3: Jason Jason Wall's news Talks. He'd be political leader to

1656
01:21:43,200 --> 01:21:44,479
Speaker 3: twenty three past six.

1657
01:21:47,120 --> 01:21:49,440
Speaker 1: Crunching the numbers and getting the results.

1658
01:21:49,680 --> 01:21:53,680
Speaker 2: It's Jack Tame with the Business Hour thanks to my HR,

1659
01:21:54,080 --> 01:21:56,599
Speaker 2: the HL platform for news talk.

1660
01:21:57,680 --> 01:22:00,160
Speaker 3: Thank you for you Tick some emails, Jack, I had

1661
01:22:00,200 --> 01:22:03,439
Speaker 3: a ten and Bunnings in Hamilton both had their f

1662
01:22:03,479 --> 01:22:05,960
Speaker 3: pose machines down tonight and says Jazz. So Jazz has

1663
01:22:06,080 --> 01:22:08,439
Speaker 3: obviously gone to started at one and gone to the

1664
01:22:08,520 --> 01:22:11,320
Speaker 3: other hoping to get f pause. I mean, this is

1665
01:22:11,400 --> 01:22:14,479
Speaker 3: I'm serious. This is a really kind of important lesson,

1666
01:22:14,560 --> 01:22:18,080
Speaker 3: isn't it about an over reliance the dangers of an

1667
01:22:18,120 --> 01:22:21,000
Speaker 3: overreliance on digital currencies in the future. I'm someone who

1668
01:22:21,200 --> 01:22:24,519
Speaker 3: never carries cash, never carries cash. This time tomorrow I

1669
01:22:24,520 --> 01:22:27,200
Speaker 3: could be getting pretty desperate, though, depending on the scale

1670
01:22:27,240 --> 01:22:29,920
Speaker 3: of this outage. We'll bring you more details of that

1671
01:22:30,400 --> 01:22:34,000
Speaker 3: very shortly. There's more information comes into our newsroom before

1672
01:22:34,040 --> 01:22:36,200
Speaker 3: seven o'clock. We'll take you to Asia as well. Donald

1673
01:22:36,200 --> 01:22:39,040
Speaker 3: Trump has made some really interesting comments about Taiwan. In

1674
01:22:39,160 --> 01:22:42,120
Speaker 3: a nutshell, he reckons Taiwan should be paying the US

1675
01:22:42,240 --> 01:22:45,920
Speaker 3: for its defense. I mean that really feels like that

1676
01:22:46,040 --> 01:22:49,639
Speaker 3: could be an extremely tense issue to say the least.

1677
01:22:50,520 --> 01:22:53,719
Speaker 3: And if he were to become the president in November

1678
01:22:54,360 --> 01:22:56,599
Speaker 3: sworn in next year, yeah, that could be a massive

1679
01:22:56,600 --> 01:22:58,360
Speaker 3: issue for Taiwan. So we'll tell you more about that.

1680
01:22:58,680 --> 01:23:05,560
Speaker 19: News is next, whether it's macro, micro or just plain economics.

1681
01:23:05,680 --> 01:23:08,840
Speaker 2: It's all on the Business Hour with Jack Tam and

1682
01:23:09,240 --> 01:23:12,880
Speaker 2: my HR, the HR platform for sme US talks.

1683
01:23:12,600 --> 01:23:18,920
Speaker 3: A b Well, well, I think we've solved it this evening.

1684
01:23:20,280 --> 01:23:23,360
Speaker 3: Not the outage, unfortunately, they're still working on that. Will

1685
01:23:23,360 --> 01:23:27,439
Speaker 3: tell you what bad day for CrowdStrike. I was just

1686
01:23:27,479 --> 01:23:30,120
Speaker 3: telling Laura once upon a time I did a very

1687
01:23:30,160 --> 01:23:32,439
Speaker 3: small number of shares and CrowdStrike, and I feel like

1688
01:23:32,479 --> 01:23:34,280
Speaker 3: today's a good day not to be holding those shares.

1689
01:23:35,720 --> 01:23:38,000
Speaker 3: We haven't sold the artage unfortunately. What we have solved

1690
01:23:38,200 --> 01:23:42,479
Speaker 3: is the participation crisis and local democracy. So as of

1691
01:23:42,600 --> 01:23:46,680
Speaker 3: Wednesday this week, only twenty three percent of voters in

1692
01:23:46,760 --> 01:23:51,120
Speaker 3: Todunger had cast a ballot for Todunger's local body elections

1693
01:23:51,200 --> 01:23:53,519
Speaker 3: this weekend. Hopefully it's a little bit higher now. Of

1694
01:23:53,600 --> 01:23:58,360
Speaker 3: course that election wraps up tomorrow. However, they reckon in

1695
01:23:58,400 --> 01:24:02,640
Speaker 3: the Horizons region. I've had a huge response already for

1696
01:24:02,760 --> 01:24:05,040
Speaker 3: the survey they are holding about whether or not music

1697
01:24:05,120 --> 01:24:08,559
Speaker 3: should be played on the bus. This is for huangan

1698
01:24:08,640 --> 01:24:13,200
Speaker 3: Nui and Fielding, Palmstan North, Jack, no music on the bus,

1699
01:24:13,320 --> 01:24:18,320
Speaker 3: please please leave passengers to listen to their own devices. Also, Jack,

1700
01:24:18,360 --> 01:24:20,799
Speaker 3: when was the last time you were on a bus? Actually?

1701
01:24:20,880 --> 01:24:24,200
Speaker 3: I did catch the bus reasonably often, to be perfectly honest,

1702
01:24:24,720 --> 01:24:26,320
Speaker 3: ride my bike most of the time, but do catch

1703
01:24:26,360 --> 01:24:30,519
Speaker 3: the bus reasonably often. Drive to work in the rain today. Yeah,

1704
01:24:30,520 --> 01:24:32,400
Speaker 3: I was going to say, answer the question, Jack, Yeah,

1705
01:24:32,400 --> 01:24:33,080
Speaker 3: well I got there.

1706
01:24:33,120 --> 01:24:33,519
Speaker 1: I got there.

1707
01:24:35,720 --> 01:24:39,600
Speaker 3: I reckon it would have been last month. Okay, So

1708
01:24:39,720 --> 01:24:41,760
Speaker 3: that's not too bad, is it. Yeah, Yeah, yeah, yeah,

1709
01:24:42,120 --> 01:24:45,639
Speaker 3: it's not. I think it's They're definitely worse. It's certainly

1710
01:24:46,120 --> 01:24:48,840
Speaker 3: more regularly than my wife does. She's not a big

1711
01:24:49,000 --> 01:24:52,880
Speaker 3: fan of running on the bus. The thing is, I

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01:24:52,960 --> 01:24:54,640
Speaker 3: reckon that listening to music on the bus is very

1713
01:24:54,640 --> 01:24:58,240
Speaker 3: different to having a phone conversation on the bus. It's funny,

1714
01:24:58,280 --> 01:24:59,840
Speaker 3: I reckon, two people are talking to each other on

1715
01:24:59,880 --> 01:25:01,640
Speaker 3: the that's fine. But if someone was talking on the

1716
01:25:01,760 --> 01:25:04,759
Speaker 3: phone for some reason, I find it really irritating. Anyway,

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01:25:05,600 --> 01:25:07,360
Speaker 3: ninety two is our Ticks number. If you've got some

1718
01:25:07,479 --> 01:25:09,960
Speaker 3: thoughts the saving. Right now, it is twenty three to

1719
01:25:10,040 --> 01:25:13,400
Speaker 3: seven and time to catch up with our Asia Business

1720
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Speaker 3: correspondent Peter Lewis, who is with this evening.

1721
01:25:16,640 --> 01:25:18,880
Speaker 1: Hi, Peter, Good Evening, Jack.

1722
01:25:19,240 --> 01:25:22,920
Speaker 3: Donald Trump reckons that Taiwan should be paying the US

1723
01:25:23,040 --> 01:25:25,920
Speaker 3: for its defense, as explained to Bloomberg. So what's he

1724
01:25:25,960 --> 01:25:26,439
Speaker 3: here to say?

1725
01:25:27,840 --> 01:25:30,320
Speaker 25: Well, yes, this was a Bloomberg interview that was done

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01:25:30,360 --> 01:25:33,120
Speaker 25: about a month or so ago, but only released last

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Speaker 25: week in time for the Republican National Convention. He's basically

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Speaker 25: what he said in this interview was he knows the

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Speaker 25: people of Taiwan very well. He claims he respects them gratefully,

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Speaker 25: but he says, first of all, they took one hundred

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Speaker 25: percent of our chip business. And then he says, I

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Speaker 25: think Taiwan should pay US for defense. Now I'm not

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Speaker 25: totally sure what is actually means by that, because Taiwan

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Speaker 25: already does pay for its defense. All the arms that

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Speaker 25: it buys it pays for. It doesn't get them for free.

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Speaker 25: And what's more, it buys nearly all of it from

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01:26:09,520 --> 01:26:15,160
Speaker 25: the United States under government negotiated military sales agreements. But nevertheless,

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Speaker 25: it makes Taiwan one of the largest markets for American

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Speaker 25: defense companies and arms manufacturers, so it is already paying

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Speaker 25: a lot of money to the United States. Now on

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Speaker 25: the point he makes about Taiwan taking one hundred percent

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Speaker 25: of our chip business, as we're obviously referring to Taiwan's

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Speaker 25: semiconductor manufacturing company, which is the world's biggest chip foundry.

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Speaker 25: It's hard to say, though, in the case of TSMC,

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Speaker 25: that they've somehow stolen America's chip business. It is true

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01:26:48,760 --> 01:26:52,560
Speaker 25: that companies like Intel, for example, he used to be

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01:26:52,680 --> 01:26:57,679
Speaker 25: the world's dominant force in semiconductor manufacturing, and it's also

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01:26:57,840 --> 01:27:02,440
Speaker 25: true that that's been overtaken I firms like Samson Electronics

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Speaker 25: in South Korea and TSMC in Taiwan. But that has

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01:27:05,680 --> 01:27:11,000
Speaker 25: happened because TSMC has made huge investments into the business.

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Speaker 25: It's plowed a lot of money, a lot of resources

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01:27:13,960 --> 01:27:17,200
Speaker 25: into it, taking big risks in the process. But nevertheless,

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01:27:17,240 --> 01:27:21,479
Speaker 25: in particular has built up in the ai space. It

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01:27:21,600 --> 01:27:25,320
Speaker 25: has very very well managed plants and factories which are

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Speaker 25: regarded as producing extremely high quality products and producing them

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Speaker 25: on time. So this is down to Taiwan's investment in

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Speaker 25: its business and companies like TSMC. Companies like Intel have

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Speaker 25: really fallen behind, particularly in the AI space. They really

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Speaker 25: have anticipated the growth in that particular sector at all,

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Speaker 25: unlike some of the Asian chip manufact factorers. But that's

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Speaker 25: not really Taiwan's stealing or taking one hundred percent of

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Speaker 25: America's chip business, as Donald Trump likes to claim.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, tricking. It would be fascinating to see what happens

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Speaker 3: in the early months of next year if indeed he

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Speaker 3: is the next president. Peter the third Plinam and China

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Speaker 3: this week in security was a major focus.

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Speaker 25: It was indeed, they talked very much about protecting national security.

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Speaker 25: That's been a top priority for a while. But also

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Speaker 25: it seems to me that it sort of takes presidents

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Speaker 25: over the economy, that if there's a choice between initiatives

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Speaker 25: that are going to protect national security are going to

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Speaker 25: boost the economy, even though they say they're equal, I

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01:28:39,240 --> 01:28:44,639
Speaker 25: suspect that national security will win. The communicate that came

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Speaker 25: out yesterday warned very much about geopolitical risks. It says

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Speaker 25: China should lead global governance. I presume that means creating

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01:28:54,439 --> 01:29:00,840
Speaker 25: alternative organizations to some of the Western dominated institutions. They

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Speaker 25: talked about balancing economic development with security, but as I say,

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Speaker 25: I rather suspect security is very much going to be

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Speaker 25: at the forefront of their minds. What I found more

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01:29:10,680 --> 01:29:14,680
Speaker 25: alarming was they wanted to talk about, first of all,

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Speaker 25: creating a socialist modern power. I'm not sure what they

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01:29:17,680 --> 01:29:22,640
Speaker 25: meant by that. They didn't exactly say, but they were

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01:29:22,720 --> 01:29:28,719
Speaker 25: talking very much about coordinating, implementing various measures to prevent

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Speaker 25: and resolved risks. And they want to weave what they

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01:29:31,760 --> 01:29:37,559
Speaker 25: say is a dense social security risk prevention and control

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Speaker 25: network and maintain social stability. And also they say they

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Speaker 25: want to step up state propaganda. They say it's necessary

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Speaker 25: to strengthen public opinion guidance. Now this sounds rather alarming

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01:29:51,000 --> 01:29:54,640
Speaker 25: to me. This sounds like a lot more internal controls.

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01:29:54,960 --> 01:29:58,760
Speaker 25: As we know, the Communist Party under Jijipin wants to

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Speaker 25: control everything, every aspect of life in China, whether it

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Speaker 25: be economic, whether it be business, whether it be social,

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Speaker 25: whether it be aspects of your personal life. They very

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01:30:09,680 --> 01:30:14,639
Speaker 25: much control social media. They cramp down on dissent very

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01:30:15,439 --> 01:30:18,040
Speaker 25: very harshly. It seems to me that some of those

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Speaker 25: statements warning and more coming along those lines and really

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Speaker 25: trying to indoctrinate people's thinking and even key issues like

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Speaker 25: the economy. They feel, you know, that people are bad

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Speaker 25: mouthing the economy and that people should be much more

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Speaker 25: positive and supportive about what they're doing on the economic front.

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Speaker 3: Speaking of the economy public secti versus private sector, is

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01:30:42,320 --> 01:30:45,439
Speaker 3: there any indication the Chinese leadership wants to scale back

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Speaker 3: investment in the public sector.

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Speaker 25: Well, they talk all the time about being business friendly

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01:30:52,280 --> 01:30:58,000
Speaker 25: and the important of private companies. However, the rhetoric is

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01:30:58,160 --> 01:30:59,720
Speaker 25: not really matched.

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Speaker 9: By the actions.

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Speaker 25: When you look at the actions, it seems very clear

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01:31:03,200 --> 01:31:08,840
Speaker 25: to me that the big state owned enterprises do get

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01:31:09,160 --> 01:31:12,599
Speaker 25: preferential treatments by local governments and by the central government

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Speaker 25: in Beijing. You only have to look at the economic

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01:31:16,280 --> 01:31:19,680
Speaker 25: data we had. The data for fixed as investment came

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01:31:19,720 --> 01:31:24,840
Speaker 25: out on Monday. Well, private companies invested just zero point

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Speaker 25: one percent. Oh, it grew private investment just by zero

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01:31:28,280 --> 01:31:30,400
Speaker 25: point one percent in the first half of the year.

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Speaker 25: Public investment, in other words, through state owned enterprises grew

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01:31:34,280 --> 01:31:38,360
Speaker 25: nearly seven percent. So that just tells you when you

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01:31:38,560 --> 01:31:42,800
Speaker 25: see private companies just not really willing to invest, that

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01:31:42,920 --> 01:31:46,280
Speaker 25: they just don't have the confidence in doing so and

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Speaker 25: in building more of their business and investing in more

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Speaker 25: of their businesses over time.

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah. Meanwhile, India is embracing Apple products.

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Speaker 9: Oh yeah.

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Speaker 25: This is a deliberate strategy by Apple to try and

1825
01:32:03,560 --> 01:32:07,719
Speaker 25: diversify away from China. It's what's known as the China

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01:32:07,800 --> 01:32:13,679
Speaker 25: plus one strategy. In that post COVID companies learned very hardly,

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01:32:13,960 --> 01:32:17,000
Speaker 25: very harshly about the risks of putting all your eggs

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Speaker 25: in one basket and just relying on China for your

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Speaker 25: supply chains. So Apple's chosen markets where it wants to

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Speaker 25: develop is India. It now produces, you know, about one

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Speaker 25: in seven of its products in India. It's got a

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Speaker 25: couple of flagship Apple stores in the country now, and

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Speaker 25: its revenue from India is jumping. It's up about a

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Speaker 25: third now in the last twelve months. It's up to

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01:32:43,120 --> 01:32:46,519
Speaker 25: about six billion dollars a year. So Apple is quite

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01:32:46,520 --> 01:32:51,360
Speaker 25: deliberately diversing its manufacturing and revenue sources beyond China. Now,

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01:32:51,360 --> 01:32:56,880
Speaker 25: it's not going to abandon China altogether, but nevertheless, India

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01:32:57,000 --> 01:33:00,759
Speaker 25: is becoming a much more important market and it seems

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Speaker 25: as a very good market in many ways, not just Apple,

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Speaker 25: but for other tech companies as well. It's got a

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Speaker 25: very young, well educated population. The demographics are very much

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Speaker 25: in India's favor, unlike in China, which is getting more

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01:33:16,880 --> 01:33:21,440
Speaker 25: and more elderly. And you've got, you know, developing infrastructure

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01:33:22,000 --> 01:33:24,320
Speaker 25: in the country, still nowhere near as good as China,

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01:33:24,400 --> 01:33:27,439
Speaker 25: but nevertheless developing, so providing a lot of the things

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Speaker 25: that tech companies like Apple require.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, very good. Asia Business Correspondent Peter Lewis, thank you

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Speaker 3: for your time. Always great to chat. Right now it

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01:33:36,600 --> 01:33:38,080
Speaker 3: is quarter to seven on News Dogs.

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Speaker 2: He'd be everything from SME to the big corporates, The

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01:33:42,080 --> 01:33:46,120
Speaker 2: Business Hour with Jack Tame and my AhR the HR

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01:33:46,240 --> 01:33:48,000
Speaker 2: platform for s news.

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Speaker 3: Dogs in b Kevin has flicked me. It takes this

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01:33:50,960 --> 01:33:52,960
Speaker 3: evening so Jack. At a time when properly owners are

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Speaker 3: drowning under rates increases. Why on Earth is Horizons regional

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01:33:56,920 --> 01:33:59,479
Speaker 3: cancer wasting my money on for a breeze like music

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Speaker 3: on bus? For goodness sake, can Horizons please get their

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Speaker 3: priorities right? Thank you for your message given ninety two

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Speaker 3: ninety two If you want to send us a text

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Speaker 3: right now it is twelve to seeven. Time to catch

1861
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Speaker 3: up with UK correspondent Devin Gray and some pretty concerning

1862
01:34:13,520 --> 01:34:16,879
Speaker 3: images out of Yorkshire in north East England. Gavin these

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01:34:17,040 --> 01:34:18,920
Speaker 3: riots to tell us about what's been.

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Speaker 26: Going on, Yeah, Jack, and uncertainty is for the court.

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Speaker 26: But let me start by what started well. A number

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Speaker 26: of police were called after seemingly some sort of disorder

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Speaker 26: which then became some serious disorder. A police car was

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Speaker 26: flipped over, a bus was set alight, barricades were made

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01:34:36,920 --> 01:34:40,840
Speaker 26: in streets in the Harehills area of Leeds. It's quite

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Speaker 26: a rundown part of that city in the northeast of England.

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01:34:44,360 --> 01:34:47,439
Speaker 26: In Yorkshire and Police Force said they were called to

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Speaker 26: a disturbance at an address at around five pm local

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Speaker 26: time and then further pockets of disorder spread out. Indeed,

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01:34:54,600 --> 01:34:59,160
Speaker 26: social media videos show big crowds on the streets and

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01:34:59,720 --> 01:35:03,320
Speaker 26: this police car being attacked with a scooter before it

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01:35:03,400 --> 01:35:07,839
Speaker 26: was then flipped over. The local MP saying she's appalled

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Speaker 26: at the shocking scenes. No injuries have been reported, but

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Speaker 26: right through until very late into the evening, hundreds of

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Speaker 26: people remained gathered around as the streets were strewn with

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Speaker 26: rubbish and other debris. Police had missiles thrown at them.

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Speaker 26: So why did it all start? All were being told

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Speaker 26: is that police were called to quote an ongoing disturbance

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01:35:26,600 --> 01:35:30,880
Speaker 26: which involves some agency workers and some children. When they

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01:35:30,960 --> 01:35:34,759
Speaker 26: attended a disturbance, more people started to attend the location

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Speaker 26: and the decision was made to remove the agency workers

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Speaker 26: and the children to a safe place. So we don't

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Speaker 26: know why the agency workers were there, what agency workers

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01:35:45,120 --> 01:35:47,880
Speaker 26: they were, all sorts of speculation which I won't add to.

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Speaker 26: I'm sure we'll get more details.

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Speaker 9: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, some of those images were pretty remarkable, to be

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01:35:53,280 --> 01:35:56,000
Speaker 3: perfically honest. I mean, especially that vast thing. See the

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01:35:56,080 --> 01:35:58,719
Speaker 3: light it was that was shocking. Now the outgoing NATO

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01:35:58,840 --> 01:36:03,560
Speaker 3: boss sees Europe must be prepared forget this a decade

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01:36:04,000 --> 01:36:05,160
Speaker 3: of the Ukrainian war.

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Speaker 26: Yeah, yeah, So Jen Staltenberg's ten year tenure comes to

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01:36:10,680 --> 01:36:13,600
Speaker 26: an end in October. In November we get to the

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Speaker 26: presidential election in America, and if Donald Trump wins a

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Speaker 26: second term, he's already said that he would either completely

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Speaker 26: cut aids to Ukraine as into zero or severely drastically

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Speaker 26: reduce it. And of course that means we've got a

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01:36:30,479 --> 01:36:33,280
Speaker 26: war going on on the doorstep of Europe, and that's

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01:36:33,320 --> 01:36:36,400
Speaker 26: why Jen Stoltenberg is warning both Europe but also the

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01:36:36,479 --> 01:36:39,680
Speaker 26: rest of NATO that they really do need to be

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01:36:39,800 --> 01:36:42,360
Speaker 26: aware this is going to be a long drawn out affair.

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01:36:42,439 --> 01:36:45,280
Speaker 26: And of course NATO's funds as well are something that

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01:36:46,120 --> 01:36:50,639
Speaker 26: a second term for Donald Trump might might be cut

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01:36:50,720 --> 01:36:55,439
Speaker 26: back on. He's already suggested that NATO members should be

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01:36:55,520 --> 01:36:59,479
Speaker 26: paying more than America. So what Jan Stoltenberg is saying is, look,

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Speaker 26: we need to be prepared for it to last a

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Speaker 26: long time, and ironically saying that the more we found

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Speaker 26: it now, the faster a resolution might be reached.

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Speaker 3: And Gavin. Five environmental protesters who blocked a major London

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01:37:10,800 --> 01:37:15,000
Speaker 3: motorway in twenty twenty two have been sentenced to jail, yes,

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Speaker 3: and quite.

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Speaker 26: Long terms, which surprised people, but I think as well

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Speaker 26: a lot of motorists who were affected on the actions

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Speaker 26: that they took were delighted. So in November of twenty

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Speaker 26: twenty two, forty five justop Ball protesters climbed gantries on

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Speaker 26: the London Orbital Motorway, the M twenty five. It's a

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Speaker 26: massively busy road even when it's quiet, and of course

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Speaker 26: when they were up in the gantries, the police said,

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Speaker 26: well they're not safe, they may fall drivers may crash,

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Speaker 26: so they shut the motorway. It was said to cost

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01:37:48,600 --> 01:37:53,320
Speaker 26: fifty one thousand hours of driver delays, cost the economy

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01:37:53,720 --> 01:37:56,759
Speaker 26: at least one and a half billion New Zealand dollars,

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Speaker 26: and indeed cost the police operation to millions. So there

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Speaker 26: was huge anger at the time. And now five of

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Speaker 26: the main ring leaders who organized that protest have been jailed,

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Speaker 26: the ring leader five years imprisonment, the others or four years.

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Speaker 26: We have become, I think, so used in this country

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Speaker 26: to people being just let off with a little smack

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Speaker 26: on the risk of some community service work that when

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Speaker 26: the length of jail tones was read out, I think

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Speaker 26: there was genuine shock in the court. But looking at

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Speaker 26: the daily papers, many of them saying, at last we

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Speaker 26: are getting some serious sentences for those who commit these

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Speaker 26: crimes and cause such inconvenience.

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Speaker 3: UK correspondent Gavin Gray, thank you. You take care Jim.

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Speaker 2: Whether it's macro micro or just playing economics, it's all

1941
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Speaker 2: on the Business Hour with hither duplicy Ellen and my HR,

1942
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Speaker 2: the HR platform for SEME used.

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Speaker 1: Talks it b.

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Speaker 3: Oh, dear Davis looked me at me, says Jack. I

1945
01:38:55,720 --> 01:38:57,839
Speaker 3: am currently in Levin on my way to New Plymouth,

1946
01:38:58,040 --> 01:39:00,720
Speaker 3: gorgeous part of the world. Stopped to get petrol, but

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Speaker 3: I'm unable to pay for it because I'm unable to

1948
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Speaker 3: transfer money on the Kiwi ban cap at the moment,

1949
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Speaker 3: So now I'm forced to stay here until the app

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Speaker 3: starts working again. I'm sure a whole heap of people

1951
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Speaker 3: are going to be affected in the same way with

1952
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Speaker 3: these outages. His Dave, Ah, that's a real punished Dave.

1953
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Speaker 3: I'm sorry. Yeah, I really hope they can get this

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Speaker 3: sordid soon.

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Speaker 5: Jack.

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Speaker 3: No payWave operating at New World this evening. Jack, As

1957
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Speaker 3: you say, this just goes to prove why we cannot

1958
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Speaker 3: rely on digital currency. Oh man, I wonder if they've

1959
01:39:32,120 --> 01:39:34,120
Speaker 3: tried turning it off and then turning it on again.

1960
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Speaker 3: Perhaps now it's really bad. That's tricky. We're going to

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Speaker 3: keep you up to date with the very latest on

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Speaker 3: these outages. It is affecting businesses and services right across

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Speaker 3: the world. From what we can understand in our newsroom

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Speaker 3: at the moment, appears to be coming from this company,

1965
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Speaker 3: crowd Strike, that provides online security platforms and services to

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Speaker 3: various different companies. So as soon as there's any information,

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Speaker 3: we will make sure to pass along. I'm very much

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Speaker 3: hoping that Dave is able to pay for petrol sometime soon.

1969
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Speaker 3: AND's what have you chosen to play us out tonight?

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Speaker 27: Oh well, you actually picked it Jack when you were

1971
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Speaker 27: voting on the what do Horizons Regional Council play on

1972
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Speaker 27: their buses question? When you said the first six albums

1973
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Speaker 27: by yay your Kanye West as he used to call

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Speaker 27: himself back then. So yeah, if Jack gets his way,

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Speaker 27: everybody and you're catching the bus from Fielding or up

1976
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Speaker 27: to a pe who jesus walks by Kanye West, you're

1977
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Speaker 27: hearing a lot more of this over the speakers.

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Speaker 3: I mean, this is like, say what you will about

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Speaker 3: Kanye West. This song is a work of genius. Absolutely

1980
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Speaker 3: nothing there's a word the genius. Nothing wrong with it.

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Speaker 3: It's like a perfect song. It's incredible. You couldn't you

1982
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Speaker 3: wouldn't change one bar, one beat, one sample, one line.

1983
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Speaker 3: Thank you very much for your company this week. You'll

1984
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Speaker 3: be pleased to know hither Depizil on his back Monday

1985
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Speaker 3: on Newstalks. He'd be thanks to ans Laura for doing

1986
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Speaker 3: the tough stuff. We're gonna leave you with Kanye. I'm

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Speaker 3: back with you. Tomorrow morning, nine o'clock on Newstalks. 'db

1988
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Speaker 3: till then, have a good night trying to bring me

1989
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Speaker 3: down the only thing that I pray is that my

1990
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Speaker 3: feet don't film me.

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Speaker 2: He For more from Hither Duplessy Allen Drive, listen live

1992
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