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Speaker 1: Pressing the newsmakers to get the real story.

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Speaker 2: It's hither dup cy Ellen drive with one New Zealand

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Speaker 2: let's get connected us. Tom said, be.

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Speaker 3: Hey, good afternoon. Coming up on the show today, Police

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Speaker 3: Minister Mark Mitchell on the Police commissioner quitting, Jeffrey Miller,

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Speaker 3: foreign policy anist analyst on how far off war we

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Speaker 3: are in the Lebanon situation, and Chloe Swarbrick on whether

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Speaker 3: they're sure, really sure that they should try again to

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Speaker 3: kick Darlene out.

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Speaker 2: Heather Dupicy Ellen.

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Speaker 3: So, Andrew Costa has resigned his Police commission. He's got

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Speaker 3: himself a new job. He is going to be running

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Speaker 3: the government's new social Investment agency, and I reckon he's

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Speaker 3: actually going to be good at this job. Now I

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Speaker 3: acknowledge this may not be a popular appointment. I think

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Speaker 3: a lot of people will see this for what it

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Speaker 3: probably is, which is that it's a job that's been

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Speaker 3: given to him to get him to leave the police

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Speaker 3: job because the government doesn't want him an there anymore.

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Speaker 3: And also this will reinforce the eye that there's a

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Speaker 3: job Mary go around in Wellington, which is obviously true.

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Speaker 3: And also there will be questions about why on earth

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Speaker 3: you'd reward someone for being pretty bad at their previous job,

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Speaker 3: which Costa definitely was when he was a shocker of

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Speaker 3: a police commissioner. And all of those criticisms, many of

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Speaker 3: which are already in my inbox, are completely valid. But

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Speaker 3: set all of that aside. I think he's going to

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Speaker 3: be good at this job because this is his wheelhouse. Right,

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Speaker 3: Andrew Costa never was a crackdown on crime guy. He's

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Speaker 3: a cotton wool guy. He's a believe in people's potential guy.

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Speaker 3: He's a given them another chance guy. He believes so

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Speaker 3: much in the fence at the top of the cliff

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Speaker 3: that he forgot that his job was actually to be

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Speaker 3: running the ambulance at the bottom of the cliff. But

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Speaker 3: this job that he's just been given is the fence

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Speaker 3: at the top of the cliff job. The point of

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Speaker 3: the Social Investment Agency is to help people before they

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Speaker 3: become criminals, right, put a lot of money and a

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Speaker 3: lot of resource into them to try to stop them

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Speaker 3: going down the path that leads them to criminality. You

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Speaker 3: even start investing in them when they're babies. Now, that

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Speaker 3: is right up, Andrew cost dos Aally, isn't it and

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Speaker 3: for all of his failings as a police commissioner, his

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Speaker 3: inability to be tough on gangs, his inability to even

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Speaker 3: do the basics like clear out the parliamentary protest before

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Speaker 3: it got out of hand. Remember how he kept saying,

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna tell your cars. Now I'm this, No, this time,

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Speaker 3: I'm really going to tell your cars. No, okay, today,

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Speaker 3: I'm really going to tell your cars. And it never happened.

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Speaker 3: Remember all of that stuff. For all of that, I

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Speaker 3: actually think he is still a very bright and decent guy.

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Speaker 3: So I just think what this was was a case

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Speaker 3: of the wrong job for the wrong guy. I am

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Speaker 3: very happy he's leaving the police. I hope we never

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Speaker 3: have a commissioner as weak as week on crime as

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Speaker 3: him again. But I think that there is a very

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Speaker 3: very good chance that he's actually going to be very

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Speaker 3: very good at what he does next. And I hope

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Speaker 3: he's good at it because this is a very important job.

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Speaker 2: Heather due for CLA nineteen nineteen is the text.

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Speaker 3: Under standard text fees apply And we're going to talk

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Speaker 3: to Mark Mitchell about all of this when he's with

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Speaker 3: us after five o'clock. Now, the government's pushed to get

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Speaker 3: the public servants back into offices and Wellington is catching

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Speaker 3: on half to the city chief executive in Auckland, Beck

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Speaker 3: says Auckland Council should lead by example. The council, however,

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Speaker 3: of course, says it has no intention to do that.

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Speaker 3: Verve Becker's with us now have viv Hello, how much

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Speaker 3: of a difference would it make if the Auckland Council

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Speaker 3: workers were actually back in the city.

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Speaker 4: Well, overall, we're about thirty thousand people down in the

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Speaker 4: morning peak on week days. That's a lot of people, yes,

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Speaker 4: every day if you look before COVID and some of

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Speaker 4: that is all the construction and some of it is

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Speaker 4: COVID and working from home. And obviously Auckland Council can't

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Speaker 4: single handedly change that. And I do understand one size

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Speaker 4: doesn't fit all, but I am thinking this is a

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Speaker 4: good initiative to tighten those working from home policies. And

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Speaker 4: really I'm saying to council there's an opportunity to take

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Speaker 3: What proportion of the inner city workforce is thirty thousand.

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Speaker 4: Well, put it this way, we're about that's about about

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Speaker 4: thirty percent down.

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Speaker 3: Wow, Okay, that's really significant. So this will be this

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Speaker 3: will be felt by basically the same story as as

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Speaker 3: and so on. They will notice that there. Yeah, it does.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and this also just has that effect on the

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Speaker 4: vibrancy of the place. You know, it just feels better

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Speaker 4: when there are more people around. I mean, we're fortunate

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Speaker 4: But that's a big So that's a foot traffic, but

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Speaker 4: in terms of the peak, that morning peak, you know,

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Speaker 4: that's that's around twenty percent fewer than we had before.

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Speaker 4: But in terms of foot traffic, we're actually thirty percent down.

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Speaker 4: So you know, the reality is it's a significant impact.

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Speaker 4: And you know, I understand flexibility is around and I

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Speaker 4: mean I implemented flexibility in a business many years ago

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Speaker 4: and people said you couldn't do it. But the reality

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Speaker 4: is we have got a significant shortfall of people and

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Speaker 4: it's quite some way off before the CRL opens.

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Speaker 3: And what we've.

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Speaker 4: Been saying to count sol and to be fair, we're

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Speaker 4: getting a fair hearing and basically saying to them that

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Speaker 4: we need to do everything we can to get people

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Speaker 4: back here. Because it's no point waiting for the CRL

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Speaker 4: and expecting fifty four thousand people to pop out every hour.

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Speaker 4: We've actually got to keep the place alive and vibrant,

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Speaker 4: and this is one way that would make a difference.

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Speaker 4: So I'm really just asking them to reassess their policy.

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Speaker 3: You have a good relationship with Wayne Brown, because I

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Speaker 3: mean it's one thing for Auckland Council to say, Na,

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Speaker 3: they're not going to do it, because I mean, this

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Speaker 3: is exactly what you expect from bureaucrats. But Waine might

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Speaker 3: be able to whip them into shape.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, So that's another conversation.

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Speaker 3: I can have wanted to be a fair r.

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Speaker 4: No, to be fair, I got a good hearing from

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Speaker 4: the mayor and counselors, and I have had to from

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Speaker 4: the chief executive around the importance of getting people back

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Speaker 4: things that we that happen right now that are deterrents.

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Speaker 4: I'm asking them to change things.

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Speaker 3: So how can you say you had a fair hearing

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Speaker 3: when like day two of this they come out and

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Speaker 5: I know not on this.

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Speaker 4: What I'm saying is I presented to them some weeks

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Speaker 4: I'm just continuing to remind them that this matters absolutely.

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Speaker 3: The best of luck with it. I really appreciate your time.

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Speaker 3: That's Vivbeck, heart of the city Chief Executive. Yet I mean,

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Speaker 3: just how much is how much? Is Auckland Council just

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Speaker 3: basically another version of the bloated the blob in Wellington.

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Speaker 3: Auckland Council says it has no intention of changing its

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Speaker 3: policy which requires staff members to work only three days

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Speaker 3: a week in person. All right for some, isn't it

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Speaker 3: ill tell you what ratepayers are paying those people's bills

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Speaker 3: If we can slap our butts into the office three

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Speaker 3: days a week, five days a week, sorry, and fight

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Speaker 3: the buses and the trains and the commuter traffic, and

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Speaker 3: we can find childcare for our children if we can

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Speaker 3: do it five days a week. Frankly you can too.

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Speaker 3: Stop being lazy. Now we're twists in the P did

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Speaker 3: he story? P did? He is making more money right

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Speaker 3: now than he was about a week ago because of

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Speaker 3: his arrest last week on the sex trafficking charges. And

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Speaker 3: the reason is because since he was arrested, there has

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Speaker 3: been a jump of around about eighteen percent plus in

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Speaker 3: the streams of his song, And every time you stream

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Speaker 3: one of his songs, he just gets a little bit

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Speaker 3: of something. It might not be March, but it all

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Speaker 3: They're like, Oh, this is horrific. What this guy's been

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Speaker 3: accused of. What kind of person would do that? Let

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Speaker 3: me go back and listen to his songs again and

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Speaker 3: his lyrics. Maybe you've never even heard of him, if

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Speaker 3: you're of a certain age, to go back to listen

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Speaker 3: to him. Same thing happened to r Kelly, Remember that

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Speaker 3: documentary that was put out about him and the underage girls.

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Speaker 3: Same thing happened. His numbers nearly doubled after that quarter

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Speaker 3: past four.

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Speaker 1: Digging deeper into the day's headlines, it's Heather Duper c

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Speaker 1: Allen Drive with one New zealand one giant leap for business.

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Speaker 1: Youth Dogs'd be a sport with the new tab app

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Speaker 1: downloaded today Ri eighteen bed responsibly.

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Speaker 3: Darcy Warder, Grave host of Sports Talkers with Me, Hello.

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Speaker 6: Darce, Hello, Heather.

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Speaker 3: So turns out there's not a lot of love for

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Speaker 3: Yitka clin Yitka clan. I'm so worried about getting it

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Speaker 3: wrong with you now because you're worried about it, I'm

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Speaker 3: the only.

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Speaker 6: One that says you can clink of her. Except yet

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Speaker 6: it doesn't matter.

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Speaker 3: Talking about her, aren't they the people.

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Speaker 6: That are right?

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Speaker 7: Because the players that have talked about and the player concerned,

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Speaker 7: they won't go public. So in essence, no one's really

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Speaker 7: talking about it at.

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Speaker 3: All because did she actually do well?

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Speaker 6: This is it?

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Speaker 7: No one wants to go to record to say that,

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Speaker 7: so no one can back that up and go while

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Speaker 7: she did this because he's been legal ramifications around. If

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Speaker 7: you say stuff, well I know some things, but I

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Speaker 7: got New Zealand Football not wanted to say it, and

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Speaker 7: then Whi's is no surprise there, That's what you get.

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Speaker 6: You get clink of her not saying anything. There we

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Speaker 6: go again.

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Speaker 3: So Darcy Okay. So, at one end of the scale

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Speaker 3: of what you could do to a player, you can

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Speaker 3: punch them in the face of the end of them unconscious.

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Speaker 3: At the other end of the scale of what you

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Speaker 3: could do to a player is maybe you playfully tap

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Speaker 3: them on the bottom or something like that. Was you

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Speaker 3: into the scale are we're talking about here? Is it

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Speaker 3: the lighter or the heavier?

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Speaker 7: Well, it depends on you if you're the person that

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Speaker 7: received whatever it was.

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Speaker 6: But because some people.

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Speaker 3: Are not knowledge what is well, I don't know how.

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Speaker 7: I don't know how an athlete would respond to their

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Speaker 7: coach in a situation such as that.

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Speaker 6: I know that round here on the O. Okay, I'll

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Speaker 6: carry the office right.

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Speaker 7: If I was to come up and give you a

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Speaker 7: big cuddle, you probably wouldn't take me to HR.

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Speaker 3: Well, I think, I mean it's a possibility. Now, let's

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Speaker 3: see what you mean.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, And so we don't know because we don't know

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Speaker 7: what has been put in place for the athletes around protocol,

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Speaker 7: around the coach and the ethics. Look, it might be

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Speaker 7: something as insignificant as a cuddle.

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Speaker 6: Yes, So the reason you touched me, you don't touch me.

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Speaker 3: Let's go there. The reason I'm asking you this question

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Speaker 3: is because what I've heard is that it is something

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Speaker 3: as insignificant as a cuddle, in which case I'm wondering

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Speaker 3: It feels like a viper's nest in there, doesn't it?

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Speaker 2: It really does.

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Speaker 6: It doesn't feel good.

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Speaker 3: Way too much estrogen in there.

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Speaker 6: Say Bonnie Jansen.

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Speaker 7: Credit to her, she's been running around harassing people left,

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Speaker 3: So harassing them consensually. They spoke to her so they

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Speaker 7: Any injury to your knee is quite serious, isn't Although

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Speaker 6: I think it was on craps.

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Speaker 7: So no MCL for Jordi four to eight weeks, nothing

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Speaker 7: He's been one of the better players in the back line,

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Speaker 7: You know, he knows how to carve off the meters

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Speaker 7: they're going to move Rico Yuani. You don't want that

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Speaker 6: Sorry, you don't need that distraction. You don't.

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Speaker 3: We're going to miss Jordi Barrett. Now that we realize

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Speaker 3: the Wallabies are actually a great squad, I wouldn't call.

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Speaker 6: Them a great squad. I wouldn't got them going.

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Speaker 7: I'll tell you what now, what they're doing, mister Wallabies

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Speaker 6: They're going, oh wow, the unbeatable all Blacks are. They're amazing.

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Speaker 2: We'll rub them down on me.

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Speaker 3: It doesn't matter. So I know that now, Yeah, and

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Speaker 6: Blacks know that. People know that, they know that.

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Speaker 3: They're all freaking out about it.

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Speaker 6: When it gets it makes so much more interesting.

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Speaker 3: Hey, Darcy, thank you appreciate it. It's Darcy Wardgrove, hosts

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Speaker 3: of Sports Talk seven o'clock this evening for twenty two.

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Speaker 2: Digging deeper into the day's headlines.

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Speaker 1: It's hither Duper c Allen Drive with one New Zealand

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Speaker 1: let's get connected and news talks.

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Speaker 2: That'd be well.

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Speaker 3: Katy Perry is finding herself in one of those awkward positions,

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Speaker 3: especially at her rage that she has been already by

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Speaker 3: the looks of things, she would she's she's doing the AFL.

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Speaker 3: Is it like the Grand Finals halftime entertainment or something

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Speaker 3: like that, And they've told her in no uncertain terms,

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Speaker 3: she went onto a podcast immediately afterwards. That's a wise

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Speaker 8: I think I was just exhausted. I let my guard

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Speaker 3: that it usually just takes one moment, because she has

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Speaker 8: When I make little slip ups about selling my car,

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Speaker 3: I don't know about you, but I often find myself

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Speaker 8: I kind of thought that mayors sort of flew under

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Speaker 3: I mean, obviously, a lot of the reason why Tory

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Speaker 3: She's the second most famous mayor in the country. It's

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Speaker 8: We've been told, well, that's essentially breaking the law. That

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Speaker 3: Right, So this afternoon the Council had to clarify that statement.

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Speaker 2: Because of course it did.

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Speaker 3: Her office said the mayor was not inferring that we

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Speaker 3: that is exactly what she was doing. Lord, can they

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Speaker 3: make it Tory, stop giving interviews for the love of God,

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Speaker 1: Heather duplicy Allen drive with one New Zealand Let's get

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Speaker 1: connected news talk z be.

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Speaker 2: Sill, bregod.

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Speaker 5: Baby blame Wow.

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Speaker 3: Cory Fano slips up so spectacularly while sober. Imagine what

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Speaker 11: Woo gin.

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Speaker 3: That is probably part of the reason why she's off

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Speaker 3: what is that. That's about three weeks away or thereabout.

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Speaker 3: So I've got three weeks to try to lobby and

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Speaker 3: going to talk to Chloe Swarbrick about that after half

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Speaker 3: It's twenty three away from five.

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Speaker 2: It's the world wires on news talks. He'd be drive.

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Speaker 3: Tensions are high in the Middle East as Israel went

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Speaker 3: Minette Yahu's message to people in Lebanon.

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Speaker 12: I urge you take this warning seriously. Don't let his

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Speaker 13: In a display of power and milit herry might. The

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Speaker 3: To the US, where Trump has been attempting to woo

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Speaker 5: This I always thought women liked me.

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Speaker 2: I never thought I had a problem.

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Speaker 14: But the fake news keep saying women don't like me.

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Speaker 2: I don't believe that. You know why.

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Speaker 14: They like to have strong borders.

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Speaker 15: They like to have safety, nothing personal.

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Speaker 2: I think they like me.

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Speaker 11: I love you too because I am your protector.

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Speaker 2: I want to be your protector.

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Speaker 16: As president, I have to be your protector.

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Speaker 3: Oh dear God. And then he went after the illegal

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Speaker 3: migrants again.

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Speaker 2: Do you think Springfield will ever be the same.

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Speaker 6: I don't think.

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Speaker 16: The fact is, and I'll say it now, you have

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Speaker 14: You're going to take in some murderers and things, and

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Speaker 3: And finally, Spanish police have a risted five people over

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Speaker 3: a fake breadpit scam, accused of scamming two women out

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Speaker 3: pretending to be Brad Pitt in various projects that did

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Speaker 1: International correspondence with Ends and Eye Insurance Peace of Mind

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Speaker 1: for New Zealand Business.

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Speaker 3: Murray Old's Australia correspondent hems.

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Speaker 17: Very good afternoon.

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Speaker 3: Do you have that fair enough? If these guys at

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Speaker 3: the AFL are paying the bills, they get to demand

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Speaker 3: what Katie sings?

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Speaker 18: No, oh god, bus Yeah. I mean look, it was

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Speaker 18: a bit of a sort of a mind. Look, it's

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 17: got Coty Prairie with a grad final. Well, Katy Perry said, look,

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Speaker 17: I'd like to do a couple of new songs.

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Speaker 18: Oh no, so the old suits at the AFL, you

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Speaker 18: can't do any new stuff. We want the old songs

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Speaker 18: like Raw and we want teenage dream and firework. Well

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Speaker 18: I went and had to listen this morning because I

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Speaker 18: knew they wanted to mention it.

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Speaker 17: And I know one song that.

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Speaker 18: Raw you hear me raw O great pop songs, but

450
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Speaker 18: every other song sounds exactly the same.

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Speaker 17: Is that blasphemous to say?

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Speaker 18: That God Almighty as you can sing any song, it

453
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Speaker 18: all sounds the same.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I mean I can see how you would come

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Speaker 3: to that conclusion, Muzzle, But the fact of the matter

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Speaker 3: is they are not all the same. Some of them.

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Speaker 3: No they I mean, look, you and I probably sit

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Speaker 3: on the same place with our views on Katie Perry's

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Speaker 3: musical ability. But some of her songs. But if you

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Speaker 3: can believe it, the songs on the new album are

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Speaker 3: even particularly more shite than the last one. So we

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Speaker 3: don't want it.

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Speaker 17: Oh, I love it. I love it.

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Speaker 3: That's fair. I mean, if they're paying the good money,

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Speaker 3: they get to decide, don't they.

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Speaker 18: I guess so, I mean yeah, I mean they've hired

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Speaker 18: of a seven sing seven songs and a half times.

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Speaker 17: She's probably going to get a couple of million dollars.

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Speaker 18: Yeah, so she's she's doing a bit better than my band,

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Speaker 18: Rocking Horse.

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Speaker 17: I can assure you. Yeah, I played drums and.

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Speaker 3: Sing, do you I did?

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Speaker 2: Hold?

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Speaker 3: Are you the lead singer from behind the drums?

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Speaker 18: Well, when our female singer turns up, she's the lead singer.

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Speaker 17: When she doesn't turn up, when she gets hammered, I.

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Speaker 3: Am that's that is a hard job because you can,

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Speaker 3: like the drumming is already quite a physical exertion without

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Speaker 3: then having to actually project your voice.

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Speaker 17: Oh it's all right, mate, I can just.

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Speaker 3: Give us a give us a sample. What do you

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Speaker 3: sound like when you.

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Speaker 18: Sing A pull in the Nazareth was feeling about a

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Speaker 18: half past.

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Speaker 3: I'll tell you what. If Katie doesn't want to do it,

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Speaker 3: you should do it. It's not a bad muss. I'd

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Speaker 3: come and see you very good.

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Speaker 16: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: What about the reserve banks? And they've decided to hold

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Speaker 3: the interest rates? Have they?

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Speaker 18: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: They have?

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Speaker 17: What's at four point three five?

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Speaker 18: It's been that way for nearly four years last interest

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Speaker 18: rate cut. Ten months since the last rate move though,

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Speaker 18: so it's being held steady. There was a bit of

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Speaker 18: speculation obviously, on the back of what the US Central

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Speaker 18: Bank did last week. Now, of course the big half

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Speaker 18: a percent interest rate cut, but the Reserve Bank.

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Speaker 17: Holding firm here.

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Speaker 18: It's not gonna move no matter how much it gets

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Speaker 18: bullied by the government and bullied by the opposition and

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Speaker 18: bully by the Greens.

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Speaker 17: The Reserve Bank is saying, bug her off. We are independent.

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Speaker 18: We will decide when it's appropriate to cut interest rates.

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Speaker 18: So I mean, if they thought Michelle Bullock was going

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Speaker 18: to be a pushover, think again, boys, and they're all

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Speaker 18: boys and suits. This woman is eminently capable and she's

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Speaker 18: more obviously tough enough to hold her own.

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Speaker 17: So no cut.

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Speaker 18: And what economists are now suggesting here that it's not

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Speaker 18: going to be until early next year when rates come

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Speaker 18: down in Australia.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, I think we can believe that. Hey listen, okay,

515
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Speaker 3: So it's not the first time that Ozzie's have got

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Speaker 3: into the super funds to pay for cosmetic stuff like

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Speaker 3: teeth and boobs and stuff. But apparently you guys are

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Speaker 3: ramping this up.

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Speaker 18: Why because they want to, you know, look nice now

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Speaker 18: and don't worry about it when I'm old and gray.

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Speaker 18: Eight hundred million dollars was taken out of superannuation accounts

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Speaker 18: last year, according to the Australian Tax Office, eight hundred

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Speaker 18: million to play for, you know, to pay for things

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Speaker 18: like bigger breasts, smaller breasts, you know, possibly white teeth,

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Speaker 18: looks like the Southern Alps marching across your face, and

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Speaker 18: I mean, hello, eight hundred and here's the stat that

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Speaker 18: came out from the ATO. You take twenty k out

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Speaker 18: of your super account when you're forty. That's one hundred

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Speaker 18: thousand dollars you're going to miss out on at sixty

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Speaker 18: five when you retire. Now, do you really want to

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Speaker 18: have that brilliant smile and bigger breasts?

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Speaker 17: Now?

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Speaker 18: I guess many people do, because eight hundred million dollars

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Speaker 18: is not small change.

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Speaker 3: Maz, what about this is an idea though, because there's

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Speaker 3: there is There are some photographs of these people with

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Speaker 3: fixed up faces, and I'll tell you what they look.

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Speaker 3: They look amazing, And I reckon you could actually earn

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Speaker 3: more with those pearlers than if you had a bunch

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Speaker 3: of sort of jaggedy teeth, don't you think.

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Speaker 18: But if you're still a bogan or a bozo, you can't.

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Speaker 18: But he tie your shoe lacers up, don't matter how

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Speaker 18: good your smile is.

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Speaker 3: Really no, you make a very good point. Actually you

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Speaker 3: are right, Marz. Thank you very much appreciated. And that

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Speaker 3: was actually excellent sing And that's mury Oult's Australia correspondent.

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Speaker 3: Go on, then have the rule. I mean, that's not

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Speaker 3: bad a like, that's that's the kind of stuff you

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Speaker 3: want to hear from. Katy. Okay, thank you for I

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Speaker 3: have no comment on Katie, actually no comment whatsoever. She's

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Speaker 3: done very well and good for her. She's done very

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Speaker 3: well peddling this nonsense and good for her, very Soper

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Speaker 3: next sixteen Away from five.

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Speaker 1: Politics with Centrics Credit, check your customers and get payments.

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Speaker 3: Certainty and your political correspondence with us.

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Speaker 6: Hey, Barry, Good afternoon, Heather.

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Speaker 3: Okay, So I see Luxon went read in the face

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Speaker 3: when he was asked about Andy Coulstat.

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Speaker 11: Well, yes, he wasn't quite about to announce the Social

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Speaker 11: Investment Agency new head of it.

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Speaker 3: Also he had had this actually got ahead of itself.

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Speaker 11: Well, yeah, what happened was the press or release was

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Speaker 11: issued about the same time that Christopher Luxen was speaking

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Speaker 11: to journalists yes on his way into caucus, and he

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Speaker 11: didn't realize clearly that it had been released. And then

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Speaker 11: push part way through, he was told, well, we've already

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Speaker 11: got a copy of the release. So that made him

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Speaker 11: a but red face. I think he was sort of

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Speaker 11: caught on the hop on that one. But Andy Coser

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Speaker 11: is really interesting to me because I remember all the

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Speaker 11: brew haha at the time when he was appointed over

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Speaker 11: others like Mike Clement, a hard nosed old kop at

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Speaker 11: the time by Desin dar Dun because the Prime Minister,

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Speaker 11: along with the Minister of Police, but the Prime Minister

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Speaker 11: has the final say on who the commissioner is and

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Speaker 11: this was sort of out of left field if you

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Speaker 11: like Andy Coster taking the job and he's been the subject,

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Speaker 11: as we all know, of much criticism and Bridges you

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Speaker 11: remember the Strikeforce rapt up Man when he was the

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Speaker 11: head of the National Party, he described him as a

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Speaker 11: woke Commissioner of Police, which is pretty unusual for a

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Speaker 11: politician of that elk to do that. But I've got

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Speaker 11: to say Chris Luxon wouldn't hear an ill spoken word

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Speaker 11: against Commissioner Costa and was quite defensive of the outgoing

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Speaker 11: cops record.

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Speaker 19: I'm the leader of the National Party and I just

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Speaker 19: say to you, when we came to power, mart Mitchell

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Speaker 19: wrote a lovely four page Leader of Expectations and he's

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Speaker 19: on an exceptionally good job for us. I'm very proud

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Speaker 19: of think he's an exceptional good job. Now he's done

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Speaker 19: a really good job. You might want to be little

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Speaker 19: at with those sort of questions, but the point is, well,

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Speaker 19: I'm not Simon Bridges. If you have noticed I'm the

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Speaker 19: leader of Chris Luck's and the leader of the National

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Speaker 19: Party promise for resilient.

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Speaker 3: Somebody pointed this out to me. It might have been Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I realized who it was actually pointed out to me yesterday.

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Speaker 3: He's getting quite shirty with the media.

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Speaker 5: Aim.

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Speaker 11: Yes, and it's a bit of pushback. And I think

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Speaker 11: it's probably time that luck and did that because he's

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Speaker 11: been too placid up until now. And look at all

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Speaker 11: Winston Peter has taken a leaf out of his book.

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Speaker 11: I mean, he's not lost nothing in the way he

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Speaker 11: treats the media if they get annoyed. I remember old

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Speaker 11: Jerry Browne once and Paddy Goal would remember this.

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Speaker 6: Paddy wrote some.

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Speaker 11: Stories that Jerry wasn't all broadcast some stories that Jerry

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Speaker 11: wasn't happy about it.

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Speaker 6: Jerry literally refused to speak to.

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Speaker 11: Him when he came across for bridge runs and normally

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Speaker 11: politicians speak to everyone.

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Speaker 3: Hey, is Takuta Ferris in trouble tomorrow?

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Speaker 9: Well?

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Speaker 11: Yes, remember last week the Mauldi party Fairis accused his

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Speaker 11: parliamentary colleagues of being liars. Then in the next breath

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Speaker 11: he told one himself.

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Speaker 17: Here he is to remind.

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Speaker 20: You lies in other words, many in this House are

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Speaker 20: masters of it, and it is a disservice to those

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Speaker 20: who voted you into your positions.

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Speaker 16: He made the allegation that members of his parliament liars.

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Speaker 16: He should have been stopped in the tracks right then.

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Speaker 16: My apologies, I didn't quite pick that up. But if

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Speaker 16: that is what the members said, then he should withdraw

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Speaker 16: and apologize as quickly as possible.

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Speaker 9: I haven't made that statement.

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Speaker 6: Ha ha ha.

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Speaker 11: Well, you know Parliament has forgotten that he did make

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Speaker 11: that statement, and I believe there'll be more about it tomorrow.

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Speaker 11: He's got to set the record straight the privileges. He's

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Speaker 11: had a privileges complaint laid against him, and he's gotten

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Speaker 11: until midday tomorrow to respond to that complaint, presumably apologized

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Speaker 11: to the House in the afternoon.

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Speaker 17: If he doesn't do that.

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Speaker 11: Then it's over to the Speaker and Jerry Brownlee I

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Speaker 11: think would probably be of a mind to send him

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Speaker 11: to the Privileges Committee.

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Speaker 3: Karen Saw, Oh, well, this was a.

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Speaker 11: Great piece from carent Sure I felt today now everybody

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Speaker 11: knows that the Children's Commissioner, she was herself a foster child,

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Speaker 11: and she left no one in any doubt about how

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Speaker 11: she feels about children coming under the care of a

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Speaker 11: runga tamareki. Chure was being questioned by the Greens Kahrangi

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Speaker 11: Kata about tracted services being cut to a rung tamariki,

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Speaker 11: but she was passionate to say the least.

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Speaker 21: Children do come to the attention of ding a timodicqi

648
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Speaker 21: when those who are supposed to care for them have failed,

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Speaker 21: and auto atomitickey has to come in at a child's

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Speaker 21: worst moment and actually make sure that they are taken

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Speaker 21: care of. It is disgusting that auto atimitickey has to exist.

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Speaker 21: People need to step up and start taking care.

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Speaker 9: Of their children.

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Speaker 3: Here here, Yeah, a lot of people will agree with that. Hey,

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Speaker 3: do you think the Greens are doing the right things

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Speaker 3: thing taking us to.

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Speaker 11: A meeting, Well, it's got the potential of dragging it

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Speaker 11: out even longer that you imagine. They've now put down

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Speaker 11: October the seventeen, when they'll all get together at sex

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Speaker 11: thirty at night or their delegates will and decide whether

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Speaker 11: they will enact the Wrocker jumping legislation. Well, in the meantime,

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Speaker 11: of course, Darlene Tanna could play the mat in the

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Speaker 11: game again.

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Speaker 3: And appeal the decision, So this could go.

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Speaker 17: On and on and on.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, interesting, And I said, the part of me hopes

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Speaker 3: it does because.

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Speaker 11: It's well you just like you, just like seeing so

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Speaker 11: somebody being an irritant.

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Speaker 22: If you pick it, you.

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Speaker 3: Got to live with a thank you, Barrier. I appreciate

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Speaker 3: it very so. For senior political correspondent eight away from five.

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Speaker 1: Putting the time questions to the newspeakers, the mic asking breakfast.

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Speaker 5: Crystal luckxin's with us?

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Speaker 15: Have you read the Supreme Court's order around the Murray

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Speaker 15: Coastline appeal and how you now have to pay in

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Speaker 15: advance for their fees?

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I'm aware of it.

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Speaker 17: What hell's that about?

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Speaker 9: Station?

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Speaker 19: All we're doing on the MACA legislation is returning it

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Speaker 19: to what Parliament intended, as we said, he.

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Speaker 15: But they don't like that a court in this country

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Speaker 15: is now telling the government, which is the ultimate court, to.

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Speaker 2: Pay money in advance.

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Speaker 9: And how you run your what I mean, come on,

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Speaker 9: we have to respect the judiciary.

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Speaker 2: We do, even when.

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Speaker 15: They're just so egregiously invasive an activist, it's laughable.

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Speaker 19: Well, all I can do, Mike, as I say, Lot,

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Speaker 19: we had the balance right in twenty level with the

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Speaker 19: legislation that it's not right.

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Speaker 23: Now, we're returning it back today.

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Speaker 15: Back tomorrow at six am. The Mic Hosking Breakfast with

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Speaker 15: the Jaguar FPAs used talk z B.

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Speaker 3: Hither. I don't know why, but I'm liking that Luckxson's

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Speaker 3: getting more grumpy with the media. Hither. I agree with

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Speaker 3: barryt's time that the Prime Minister stopped pandering to the

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Speaker 3: media the childish and vindictive. I enjoyed Barry's comments on

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Speaker 3: it tonight. Look, here's there is a line on this

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Speaker 3: to walk like. He should push back, but he should

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Speaker 3: only push back so much because if you don't push back,

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Speaker 3: because what was going on before was at the press gallery,

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Speaker 3: which is super hostile, which is berating luxon and because

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Speaker 3: he was absorbing it all, he just looked weak. He

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Speaker 3: looked like he was weak and sort of being bullied

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Speaker 3: by a bunch of children. That's not a good look.

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Speaker 3: But then if you take it too far and you're

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Speaker 3: too shirty, then you start to look defensive and like

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Speaker 3: you're under too much pressure. And so there's a kind

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Speaker 3: of like line that he needs to walk on this

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Speaker 3: where he pushes back firmly and tells them cut the crap, basically,

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Speaker 3: but without looking like he's the one who's actually losing

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Speaker 3: his mind here. So you know, I just am not

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Speaker 3: convinced he's striking that balance just yet. But hey, let's

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Speaker 3: see how it plays out over time. Anthony Albanize, he's

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Speaker 3: just announced that he is not going to get held, sorry,

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Speaker 3: not going to get married before the next federal election.

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Speaker 3: The next federal election is due by May next year,

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Speaker 3: and there had been speculation he would, you know, get

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Speaker 3: married in advance and then get a little bit publicity blip.

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Speaker 3: Everybody loves, you know, a couple of boomers getting married

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Speaker 3: to each other ahead of an election's great. Look, you know, yay,

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Speaker 3: happy happy days. Now I want to vote for him

725
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Speaker 3: because he's made an honest woman at her all that

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Speaker 3: kind of stuff. But now, no, apparently he doesn't have

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Speaker 3: time in his diary. And the reason he doesn't have

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Speaker 3: time in his diary is because he's got a hell

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Speaker 3: of a fight on his hands, isn't he He's going

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Speaker 3: to have to focus. There's no time. There's no time

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Speaker 3: for a honeymoon or planning wedding stuff. And you know

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Speaker 3: how women are, We're all like, do you want the

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Speaker 3: bows around the chairs to be purple or pink and

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Speaker 3: we'll just not cope with that while losing an election.

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Speaker 3: So fair enough. Now we're going to talk to Mike

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Speaker 3: Mitchell next about the Sandy Costa business because obviously obviously

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Speaker 3: they've given him a job to get him out of

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Speaker 3: the other job, because they were like, you've got to

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Speaker 3: get out of the police commissioner's job. This is not working.

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Speaker 3: We'll put that to Mark when he's with us. Shortly,

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Speaker 3: Jeffrey Miller, foreign policy analyst, is going to talk us

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Speaker 3: through what's going on in the Middle East with the

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Speaker 3: air strikes on Lebanon. It's pretty clear we're getting much

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Speaker 3: much closer to full on war. And then also looks

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Speaker 3: like fire guys in Christchurch have managed to figure out

746
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Speaker 3: where the Porthill's fire on Valentine's Day this year started.

747
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Speaker 3: They found the house, they found the specific place it started.

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Speaker 3: We'll have a chat to them shortly. News Talks AB.

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Speaker 1: The only drive show you can trust to ask the questions,

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Speaker 1: get the answers by the fact and give the analysis.

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Speaker 1: Heather due to Celan Drive with One New Zealand. Let's

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Speaker 1: get connected and News Talk as the'd be.

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Speaker 3: Afternoon, Andrew Costa has resigned as the Police Commissioner. He

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Speaker 3: will finish up with the Police in November and then

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Speaker 3: take up a new role as the boss of the

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Speaker 3: new Social Investment Agency. Now Mark Mitchell is the Police Minister. Mitch, Hello, Hi, Heather.

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Speaker 3: Is this what it looks like? You know what it

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Speaker 3: looks It looks like it looks like you guys have

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Speaker 3: done a deal with him to quit. Found him a

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Speaker 3: nice job to replace the job you want him out of.

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Speaker 24: No, not at all. I mean, obviously Nicholas is forming

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Speaker 24: the Social Investment Agency because that's a critical that's a

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Speaker 24: cornerstone for us. Us actually is in government, is to

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Speaker 24: start to deal with all these really difficult intergenerational social

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Speaker 24: issues that we need to deal with as a country.

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Speaker 24: The Social Investment Agency's got a big role to play.

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Speaker 24: And I think that, you know, Andy Costa, when you

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Speaker 24: look at his background and his experience, he's the perfect

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Speaker 24: fit for that role.

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Speaker 3: Look, I know you're not you're not going to agree

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Speaker 3: with me because you can't. But he wasn't that good

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Speaker 3: as the Police commissioner, So why would he be good

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Speaker 3: at this job?

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Speaker 24: Well, he was, in all fairness to the commissioner is

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Speaker 24: a change with a changing Obviously, in opposition, we felt

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Speaker 24: like labor had completely taken us in the wrong direction

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Speaker 24: in terms of public safety, and they had without a doubt.

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Speaker 24: We've gone backwards on every measure. There's a lot of

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Speaker 24: work to do. We're slowly starting to turn that around. However,

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Speaker 24: in all fairness to the Commissioner, he had to serve

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Speaker 24: the government of the day as the incoming national government,

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Speaker 24: as the incoming minister.

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Speaker 23: I sent out.

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Speaker 24: A leader of expectation.

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Speaker 9: I released that publicly.

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Speaker 24: It was very clear in terms of what I wanted done,

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Speaker 24: and he has responded to that. So in all fenus

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Speaker 24: there's been a real change in the way that gang

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Speaker 24: convoys or police. We haven't had any of our provincial

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Speaker 24: or rural towns taken over by gangs. They've been hammering

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Speaker 24: and doing running operations against the boy racers. We're really

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Speaker 24: getting stuck into the retail crime. There's been a big

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Speaker 24: increase in police presence through beat patrols. You know, every

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Speaker 24: single common chero in the country's got currently facing charges.

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Speaker 24: So he has actually responded well to that letter of expectation.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I kind of feel like this is more of

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Speaker 3: his Wheelhouse like the way that he approaches crime, this

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Speaker 3: is where he needs to be, he might actually.

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Speaker 2: Listen.

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Speaker 24: I agree with you entirely, and I think that when

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Speaker 24: you know, I worked with him when he was Deputy

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Speaker 24: CEO IT Justice and ized the Associate Minister of Justice

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Speaker 24: in the last National government, very good in that role.

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Speaker 24: You know, I've enjoyed working with them in my role

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Speaker 24: as Police Minister, and I enjoy and I'll enjoy working

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Speaker 24: with him this role.

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Speaker 9: But I agree with you.

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Speaker 24: I think that he's got the strategic sort of oversight

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Speaker 24: in terms of what we need to do, but he's

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Speaker 24: also very much in tune with the operational stuff and

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Speaker 24: the stuff, you know, the front line stuff, and an

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Speaker 24: understanding of where we need to target our resources and

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Speaker 24: efforts and in terms of getting stuck at and starting

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Speaker 24: to deal with some of the intergenerational art that we

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Speaker 24: see in this country.

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Speaker 3: So who are you going to pick? Gevin mcskimming or

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Speaker 3: Richard Chambers.

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Speaker 24: I will that'll be interesting to see who puts their

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Speaker 24: name forward, but you know, we're all obviously the Public

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Speaker 24: Services Commission runs the process. It'll be a fair process

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Speaker 24: and we'll see who emerges from that.

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Speaker 3: Mitch thank you really appreciate your time. This make much

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Speaker 3: all the police Minister. So apparently it's a two horse

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Speaker 3: races is according to the Herald, between Deputy Commissioner Gevin

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Speaker 3: mc skinning and Assistant Commissioner Richard Chambers. And I'll run

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Speaker 3: you through those boys details when I get a chances

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Speaker 3: to eleven passed five escalation in the Middle East overnight

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Speaker 3: with Israeli air strikes on Lebanon killing around five hundred

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Speaker 3: people and thirty five of them were kids, and a

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Speaker 3: whole bunch more thousands were injured. Israel attacked hundreds of

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Speaker 3: Hezbola weapons storage facilities, leading them to the deadliest day

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Speaker 3: since the Civil War in nineteen ninety. Now. Jeffrey Miller

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Speaker 3: is a geopolitical analyst.

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Speaker 25: Hey, Jeffrey, good evening, Heather.

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Speaker 3: Is it inevitable that they are headed for a full

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Speaker 3: scale war?

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Speaker 25: Look, I think we've been heading this way since October

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Speaker 25: the seventh last year, October the eighth, when the first

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Speaker 25: air strikes from Lebanon really began, the rocket attacks from Lebanon,

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Speaker 25: And you know, unfortunately, there has been a level of

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Speaker 25: inevitability about this, and this just takes up a notch

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Speaker 25: further though. I mean, it's a huge death toll in

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Speaker 25: a single day, almost five hundred people killed. You know,

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Speaker 25: to put that in context, in the entire thirty four

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Speaker 25: day war back in two thousand and six between Israel

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Speaker 25: than Lebanon, thirteen hundred Lebanese individuals were killed.

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Speaker 23: So we're already at a third of that on more

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Speaker 23: more than a third in just a single day.

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Speaker 3: What happens next? Do you think that there's retaliation?

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Speaker 25: Look, we've been waiting for retaliation since July really when

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Speaker 25: the Habela commander for Sugar was killed. Israel killed another

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Speaker 25: one last week in the aftermath of those Paiterer attacks.

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Speaker 25: I mean, there's plenty of reasons for retaliation from his

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Speaker 25: and from Iran directly, and I think there are various

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Speaker 25: plans that are being made, but yet they're unable to

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Speaker 25: carry them out. Israel has very very good intelligence. Clearly

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Speaker 25: they conducted thirteen hundred strikes yesterday, or they attacked thirteen

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Speaker 25: hundred targets. I should say they've got very good intelligence.

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Speaker 25: They know what they're looking for, and as we saw

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Speaker 25: last week with those pager attacks, they're not afraid now

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Speaker 25: to the audacious. So I don't think it's through a

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Speaker 25: lack of a lack of desire that his Bila.

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Speaker 23: Is not responding to what Israel is doing here.

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Speaker 25: But they're just being fowled at every turn, and I

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Speaker 25: think that's preps the risk here for Israel in the

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Speaker 25: end his BLA, if they keept trying, they will probably

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Speaker 25: break through and then we end up with the all

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Speaker 25: out war between Israel and his BLA that we've been

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Speaker 25: trying to avoid. So I think dangerous times ahead.

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Speaker 23: It does seem all very ominous.

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Speaker 9: It already is bad.

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Speaker 23: It is a very bad situation.

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Speaker 25: It could only get worse. And I think we also

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Speaker 25: need to remember that his Bela is not Hermas. Hisbela

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Speaker 25: is very very well armed, very very well capable. They're

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Speaker 25: much closer to Iran by the virtue of being a

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Speaker 25: sheer group. They've got fifty thousand fighters, one hundred and

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Speaker 25: fifty thousand rockets, and they're more They're better armed than

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Speaker 25: many many governments, many states are in the Middle East.

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Speaker 23: So it's a different kettle of fish here.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, altogether, Hey, thank you very much, Jeffrey appreciated. Jeffrey Miller,

882
00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:49,200
Speaker 3: geopolitical analyst.

883
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:51,240
Speaker 2: Whatever dul either.

884
00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:53,600
Speaker 3: I've got a mate who looks after property for a

885
00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:56,920
Speaker 3: government department who moved into new premises on the first

886
00:39:56,960 --> 00:39:59,480
Speaker 3: of July. So what's that August September, so coming up

887
00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:03,760
Speaker 3: three months, still has twenty six access cards not collected

888
00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:06,439
Speaker 3: by people who haven't been in once yet. So get

889
00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:09,120
Speaker 3: those lazy civil servants back to work, Jews. I'm here

890
00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:09,319
Speaker 3: for that.

891
00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:09,600
Speaker 2: Al.

892
00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:12,200
Speaker 3: I love that this thing has got some legs. Remember

893
00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:13,840
Speaker 3: last week we were just like, do you know what,

894
00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:15,800
Speaker 3: they should go back to work? And this week what's happened.

895
00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:18,640
Speaker 3: They're going back to work. Happy days Now he want

896
00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:21,160
Speaker 3: some economic growth, Go to Gisbon. That's where it's at.

897
00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:24,839
Speaker 3: ASB has just released its latest regional Economic scorecard, and

898
00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:27,319
Speaker 3: this basically ranks regions based on their annual growth and

899
00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:30,040
Speaker 3: employment and they're building consents and their retail sales and

900
00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:32,520
Speaker 3: so on. And for the last quarter, which is the

901
00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:36,000
Speaker 3: three months to June, it's been mostly bleak across the board,

902
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:39,560
Speaker 3: but Gisbon is awesome. Its construction consents are up forty

903
00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:43,000
Speaker 3: one percent year on year, house sales growth second highest

904
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:45,319
Speaker 3: in the country, up twenty six percent, and this is

905
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:48,360
Speaker 3: obviously because of the rebuilt after cyclone. Gabrielle took the

906
00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:50,440
Speaker 3: spot in the top spot in the country for the

907
00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:54,560
Speaker 3: first time in four years. Auckland is ninth equal big mortgages.

908
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:57,000
Speaker 3: That's the problem. That's why Auckland has a hit harder

909
00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:59,760
Speaker 3: by the high interest rates. Wellington is the fourteenth equal

910
00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:03,360
Speaker 3: sector carts plus everything else is really hit them. Regions

911
00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:05,080
Speaker 3: who have dairy and them. They are going to be

912
00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:06,839
Speaker 3: doing well in the next wee while and next year

913
00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:09,960
Speaker 3: is looking good, says ASB because of the easing inflation

914
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:11,879
Speaker 3: pressure by the end of the year. Some good news

915
00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:14,399
Speaker 3: there and I'm loving it. Quarter past now here's something

916
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:17,400
Speaker 3: pretty special and frankly, it's probably going to be one

917
00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:20,200
Speaker 3: of the most duel dropping Central Otago p no ideals

918
00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:23,480
Speaker 3: you're going to come across, ever, and it's available exclusively

919
00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:25,640
Speaker 3: at the Good Wine co. Now this wine is being

920
00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:29,520
Speaker 3: sold as the Mystery Premium Central Otago p Twenty twenty

921
00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:32,560
Speaker 3: and the name of this Gibston Valley producer has got

922
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:35,320
Speaker 3: to be kept under wraps. But due to tough economic

923
00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:37,920
Speaker 3: conditions and a really big slow down and export and

924
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:41,440
Speaker 3: premium wine sales, they've relabeled and they've repackaged stocks of

925
00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:43,719
Speaker 3: their premium label P No NOI that sells for a whole

926
00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:46,880
Speaker 3: lot more. The wine is being urgently sold at an

927
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:50,640
Speaker 3: absurd fifteen ninety nine per bottle. Make no mistake, this

928
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:54,160
Speaker 3: is Central Otago pino of quality you'd never normally dream

929
00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:56,680
Speaker 3: of picking up for fifteen ninety nine, one hundred percent

930
00:41:56,680 --> 00:42:00,000
Speaker 3: Gibston fruit, no finding, all filtration, twenty percent whole clubs

931
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:04,200
Speaker 3: to fermentation, eleven months aging in twenty five percent expensive

932
00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:06,239
Speaker 3: New French oak. In short, you are getting a lot

933
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:10,040
Speaker 3: of pinot for your money. Here. It's a rish luscious,

934
00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:14,200
Speaker 3: silky Central Pino that's quite honestly unbelievable buying for fifteen

935
00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:15,759
Speaker 3: ninety nine, and if you order right now, you're going

936
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:18,399
Speaker 3: to pay just a dollar per case delivery to your

937
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:21,720
Speaker 3: door anywhere in New Zealand. Conditions apply premium Central Otago

938
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:25,000
Speaker 3: pinot for fifteen ninety nine. It's utterly mad. Order online

939
00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:27,080
Speaker 3: right now at the Good Wine Dot Cola and Zedill

940
00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:28,520
Speaker 3: give them a call. Oh eight hundred and six six

941
00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:33,600
Speaker 3: two sixty six two Ever past five fire investigators reckon

942
00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:36,320
Speaker 3: they found the exact spot where the Porthills fire started

943
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:38,520
Speaker 3: in February this year. You'll remember it. It burned for

944
00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:41,880
Speaker 3: about three weeks one hundred households were evacuated. It burned

945
00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:46,000
Speaker 3: through six hundred fifty hectares day. Excuse me, Dave Stackhouse

946
00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:48,919
Speaker 3: is fire an emergencies district commander and with us. Hey, Dave,

947
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:52,920
Speaker 3: good evening, Well, thank you. So where did it start?

948
00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:54,600
Speaker 9: Me?

949
00:42:54,640 --> 00:43:00,279
Speaker 26: As I said, it's started fifteen meters from Worsley's there

950
00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:03,160
Speaker 26: into an area of five meters by five meters. So

951
00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:07,600
Speaker 26: we've tracked down the point of origin. But unfortunately the

952
00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:10,400
Speaker 26: point of origin of the fire is on private property,

953
00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:12,360
Speaker 26: so we aren't disclosing the exact location.

954
00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:14,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, and the person who owns the property is actually

955
00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:18,680
Speaker 3: working with you guys, right, they're not a suspect, that's correct.

956
00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:22,400
Speaker 26: We interviewed the property owner three times and he was

957
00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:25,360
Speaker 26: cooperative throughout the entire investigation and.

958
00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:28,279
Speaker 3: No idea what started it.

959
00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:31,359
Speaker 26: It's just the investigators worked pretty hard obviously there. You know,

960
00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:35,200
Speaker 26: we understand the public interest in this fire is with

961
00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:40,080
Speaker 26: all of our investigations, but we have to have enough

962
00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:43,480
Speaker 26: evidence to satisfy a removal of all the ignition factors,

963
00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:46,560
Speaker 26: and we're looking for that positive ignition factor and we

964
00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:48,719
Speaker 26: weren't able to determine it in this case.

965
00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:50,080
Speaker 3: Property owner has no idea.

966
00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:55,760
Speaker 26: He was on scene at the time or just prior

967
00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:58,719
Speaker 26: to the ignition, then realized there was a fire there

968
00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:01,200
Speaker 26: when he saw it one on one, so he did

969
00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:04,160
Speaker 26: the right thing. And as I said, he's cooperated with

970
00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:07,319
Speaker 26: the New Zealand Police and Foreign Emergency during the investigation.

971
00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:10,640
Speaker 3: Dave, is it a part of the property that other

972
00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:11,480
Speaker 3: people can access?

973
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:11,680
Speaker 9: You know?

974
00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:13,480
Speaker 3: Can you walk off the road onto the property or

975
00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:14,120
Speaker 3: something like that?

976
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:18,880
Speaker 26: Where's the tracks? Quite well, all the tracks around the

977
00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:22,000
Speaker 26: portals are widely used the mountain bikers and walking and

978
00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:26,960
Speaker 26: running tracks, So where's the track and road as widely

979
00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:29,080
Speaker 26: used by the public throughout the year.

980
00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:31,319
Speaker 3: So am I right in thinking this is the end

981
00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:33,359
Speaker 3: of the investigation. You've taken it as far as you can.

982
00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:35,400
Speaker 3: If there's more info, you'll take another look at it.

983
00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:40,600
Speaker 26: Yeah, well, we've said as the classified is undetermined, but

984
00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:43,560
Speaker 26: if further evidence comes to light, New Zealand Police and

985
00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:48,000
Speaker 26: Foreign Emergency will reopen it and examine that evidence and

986
00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:49,960
Speaker 26: see what comes from that good stuff.

987
00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:52,040
Speaker 3: Hey, Dave, thanks very much and hopefully something does come

988
00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:55,120
Speaker 3: to like this, Dave Stackhouse. The District Commander Fire and Emergency,

989
00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:58,320
Speaker 3: Chloe Swarbrick, is going to be with us in fifteen minutes.

990
00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:00,160
Speaker 3: I'm dying to ask her whether she actually I think

991
00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:02,760
Speaker 3: she's got the seventy five percent to kick Darlene out.

992
00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:05,719
Speaker 3: So bearwith we'll get there shortly five to twenty one.

993
00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:08,880
Speaker 1: The name you trust to get the answers you need

994
00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:11,680
Speaker 1: and a dup to see Allen drive with one New

995
00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:14,600
Speaker 1: Zealand let's get connected and new talk as they'd be.

996
00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:17,120
Speaker 3: It's three four past five. Listen. There's been a fair

997
00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:19,319
Speaker 3: bit of speculation around the place in the last day

998
00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:21,759
Speaker 3: or so as to where the Madison Ashton, who is

999
00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:24,719
Speaker 3: the Hooker mistress, would have changed the jury's decision in

1000
00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:28,520
Speaker 3: the Philip Polkinghorn trial had she appeared. And the answer

1001
00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:32,360
Speaker 3: is obviously no. I mean suggesting anything otherwise is just

1002
00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:35,400
Speaker 3: mischief making, isn't it. So the fact is that Madison

1003
00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:38,960
Speaker 3: Ashton is what you would call an unreliable witness, and

1004
00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:42,640
Speaker 3: that is a polite way of describing the woman. There

1005
00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:44,719
Speaker 3: are people in the world who are straight up and

1006
00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:46,600
Speaker 3: down right and when if they sat in front of

1007
00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:48,400
Speaker 3: a jury, the jury would believe every single word that

1008
00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:50,120
Speaker 3: came out of their mouths. And then there are others

1009
00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:53,480
Speaker 3: who are jury I would venture would struggle to believe

1010
00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:56,279
Speaker 3: or take seriously, and unfortunately for Madison Ashton, I think

1011
00:45:56,320 --> 00:45:58,640
Speaker 3: she's one of them. Just have a look at what

1012
00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:01,239
Speaker 3: she's been telling the newspaper in the last day or so.

1013
00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:05,479
Speaker 3: First of all, she refused to appear in court, she says,

1014
00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:08,520
Speaker 3: because she felt the police had disrespected her. I mean,

1015
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:11,400
Speaker 3: can you believe the gaul of it. It's not a

1016
00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:14,800
Speaker 3: quiz show appearance. It's a murder trial. It's one of

1017
00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:17,319
Speaker 3: the most serious charges that a society can level at someone.

1018
00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:19,440
Speaker 3: And Madison doesn't want to turn up because the boys

1019
00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:21,799
Speaker 3: in Blue hurt her feelings. Give me a break. And

1020
00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:24,080
Speaker 3: then she says that she was very serious about the

1021
00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:26,080
Speaker 3: whole thing, praying for a guilty verdict, but the cops

1022
00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:28,640
Speaker 3: watched the trial because they didn't take her seriously and

1023
00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:31,320
Speaker 3: didn't use her to wear a wire right, which suggests

1024
00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:33,640
Speaker 3: she cares deeply. But then when they do come to

1025
00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:35,200
Speaker 3: her and give her a summons and ask her for

1026
00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:37,839
Speaker 3: help by appearing in courts, suddenly she doesn't appear that much,

1027
00:46:38,040 --> 00:46:41,879
Speaker 3: and she goes on Hollybops in Europe, and then and

1028
00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:45,080
Speaker 3: then she claims that she and Philip Pulkinhorn were going

1029
00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:48,760
Speaker 3: to get married and have children. The woman is forty nine.

1030
00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:50,960
Speaker 2: I mean, come.

1031
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:54,920
Speaker 3: Off it, lady. That's not a believable story, is it? Honestly?

1032
00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:57,680
Speaker 3: Based on what she said to the media that has

1033
00:46:57,719 --> 00:47:00,719
Speaker 3: been published, I don't feel like she have changed the

1034
00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:02,800
Speaker 3: outcome of that trial at all. I feel like the

1035
00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:05,520
Speaker 3: jury would have sat there and listened to her and

1036
00:47:05,680 --> 00:47:07,799
Speaker 3: just disregarded a whole bunch of stuff, don't you think.

1037
00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:10,399
Speaker 3: And I can't help but feel that what she's doing

1038
00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:12,600
Speaker 3: right now, which is to talk to everybody like didn't

1039
00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:15,000
Speaker 3: want to talk to the jury, the most important eleven

1040
00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:17,400
Speaker 3: people in this whole thing, we're happy to talk to

1041
00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:20,319
Speaker 3: everybody else right now, is self serving, isn't it. I mean,

1042
00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:23,399
Speaker 3: tell you what, running yourself a little private business? How

1043
00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:25,120
Speaker 3: about this for some free pr.

1044
00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:27,719
Speaker 2: Heather do for ce Ellen Heather.

1045
00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:30,000
Speaker 3: From a cops point of view, Richard Chambers all the

1046
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:32,640
Speaker 3: way hither as a current police officer over twenty years

1047
00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:35,359
Speaker 3: frontline service, it has got to be Richard Chambers here

1048
00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:38,200
Speaker 3: the cost and may have mixed feelings about departing, but

1049
00:47:38,239 --> 00:47:40,120
Speaker 3: I can tell you the frontline definitely doesn't. This is

1050
00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:42,439
Speaker 3: great news. I would have absolutely believe it. I think

1051
00:47:42,520 --> 00:47:45,960
Speaker 3: Richard Chambers may be the dude he's been. It was

1052
00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:48,520
Speaker 3: Richard and who was it? It was somebody else, wasn't it?

1053
00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:51,279
Speaker 3: Who was in the running? I can't remember the other

1054
00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:53,440
Speaker 3: Chap's name for a little while there, and then they

1055
00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:55,520
Speaker 3: both went off. Oh it was a lady I think actually,

1056
00:47:56,120 --> 00:47:57,960
Speaker 3: to be fair, and then the two of them went

1057
00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:02,000
Speaker 3: off and off. It took a Sue. Was it Sue Schwalga? Laura?

1058
00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:04,120
Speaker 3: Was that who it was? Anyway? It was the two

1059
00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:06,640
Speaker 3: of their names. I think it was Sue. Two of

1060
00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:10,200
Speaker 3: them went off on international postings, and he's the only

1061
00:48:10,239 --> 00:48:13,440
Speaker 3: one who He's still at Interpol, but he is still

1062
00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:16,319
Speaker 3: in the mix. And so you've got to say that

1063
00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:18,680
Speaker 3: you feel like Richard is the guy probably going to

1064
00:48:18,719 --> 00:48:21,520
Speaker 3: get the job. He's got a lot of frontline experience,

1065
00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:23,880
Speaker 3: a lot of experience in the field, and I feel

1066
00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:25,880
Speaker 3: I feel like the boys in Blue need that, do

1067
00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:27,640
Speaker 3: you know what I mean? After what they've just been through.

1068
00:48:28,120 --> 00:48:30,600
Speaker 3: Either should I grab one or two bottles of dressing

1069
00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:34,600
Speaker 3: for Chloe's word salad? Heither don't let Chloe just regurgitated

1070
00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:37,319
Speaker 3: word salad? Ask for yes or no answers? Thank you guys,

1071
00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:42,239
Speaker 3: I mean, jeez, you know, okay, Boomer, Yeah, don't make

1072
00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:45,160
Speaker 3: it too hard for me. It's hard enough. Headlines next.

1073
00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:52,200
Speaker 1: On your smart speaker, on the iHeart app and in

1074
00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:55,200
Speaker 1: your car on your drive home. Heather duper c Allen

1075
00:48:55,320 --> 00:48:58,560
Speaker 1: drive with one New Zealand. Let's get connected and news

1076
00:48:58,640 --> 00:48:59,400
Speaker 1: talk because they'd be.

1077
00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:16,239
Speaker 3: Ye understanding by after six o'clock. We're gonna have a

1078
00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:19,480
Speaker 3: chat to the FMA because we have had a milestone

1079
00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:22,720
Speaker 3: with the key. We save her investments one hundred billion dollars.

1080
00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:24,839
Speaker 3: We've topped for the first time in New Zealand, which

1081
00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:27,040
Speaker 3: is awesome. We're playing with the big boys now, so

1082
00:49:27,080 --> 00:49:29,640
Speaker 3: we'll find out all about that hither. I can't believe

1083
00:49:29,640 --> 00:49:32,800
Speaker 3: that Madison Ashton's previous relationship with the billionaire Richard Pratt.

1084
00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:35,600
Speaker 3: Pratt hasn't been mentioned. It's about fifteen years ago. Court

1085
00:49:35,640 --> 00:49:38,640
Speaker 3: case Baby, big scandal in Australia. That's right, if you

1086
00:49:38,680 --> 00:49:42,160
Speaker 3: google her. She's not just famous in New Zealand, she's

1087
00:49:42,200 --> 00:49:45,640
Speaker 3: famous in Australia as well. That lady is Yeah, she's

1088
00:49:46,239 --> 00:49:49,640
Speaker 3: got a profile. Twenty four away from six now in

1089
00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:52,399
Speaker 3: the never ending Darlene Saga, the Greens have now set

1090
00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:54,560
Speaker 3: a new date for party members to decide whether they're

1091
00:49:54,560 --> 00:49:56,120
Speaker 3: going to boot her out of Parliament or not going

1092
00:49:56,200 --> 00:49:59,360
Speaker 3: to hold a meet in October seventeen. Chloe Swarbrick is

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Speaker 3: the Greens co leader. Hey, Chloe Kilder, how are you

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Speaker 3: very well? Thank you? Do you reckon? You've got the numbers,

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Speaker 3: if you've got the seventy five percent support amongst the

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Speaker 3: delegates to kick around.

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Speaker 27: I am incredibly confident in the wisdom of our party

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Speaker 27: and that's part of the reason that we've also set

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Speaker 27: the stage with the opportunity for our members to properly

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Speaker 27: deliberate on a number of pieces of information, noticiably what's

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Speaker 27: transpired in the last month or so, and to come

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Speaker 27: to a well considered opinion.

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Speaker 3: Yes, so you've got confidence in the wisdom of the party,

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Speaker 3: but does that mean that you've got confidence you've got

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Speaker 3: seventy five percent?

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Speaker 27: Look again, I don't want to get ahead of ourselves here.

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Speaker 27: We are very proud. I'm sure you have had many

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Speaker 27: Green Party co leaders on your show over the last

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Speaker 27: few years saying that we're very proud of our internal democracy.

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Speaker 27: And look, I would to be completely straight up and

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Speaker 27: say that as at the best of times, we've demonstrated

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Speaker 27: democracy can be missy, but ultimately that means hearing from

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Speaker 27: everyone in the room and making sure that we move

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Speaker 27: forward together.

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Speaker 3: As you know what they say, you never call you

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Speaker 3: never call for a vote unless you know you're going

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Speaker 3: to win a day, So you might be making a

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Speaker 3: mistake here.

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Speaker 27: Are you're looking at Sunsu out of or aren't you Look?

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Speaker 27: What we've said is that we very clearly as a

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Speaker 27: caucus and we haven't come to the position lightly is

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Speaker 27: based on that independent expert investigation into the facts and

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Speaker 27: the behavior of d'arlan Tana that we very clearly have

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Speaker 27: come to the conclusion that she is not fit to

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Speaker 27: be a member of parliament, and we have moved forward

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Speaker 27: to put that recommendation to our party to reconcile. Actually

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Speaker 27: with an unprecedented situation, we have never been in a

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Speaker 27: situation before where we have had somebody who has been

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Speaker 27: elected on the Green Party list who we have come

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Speaker 27: to the conclusion is unfit to be a member of parliament,

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Speaker 27: yet is intent on sticking around.

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Speaker 3: If your delegates do say yes, how fast can you

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Speaker 3: remove her?

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Speaker 27: So, as I understand the legislation as it presently sits,

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Speaker 27: is that subsequence to that SGM and our delegates giving

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Speaker 27: that endorsement. If that were should be the case, then

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Speaker 27: we would write a letter to the speaker. And actually

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Speaker 27: the legislation is relatively silent on how quickly the Speaker

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Speaker 27: would then need to move, but that would sit within

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Speaker 27: his discretion, and as I understand it, things could move

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Speaker 27: relatively quickly, especially given that Darlene has already resigned herself

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Speaker 27: as a member of the Green Party.

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Speaker 3: And then what do you think she's going to do.

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Speaker 3: Is she's just going to take this one lying down?

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Speaker 3: Or she challenged you again.

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Speaker 27: Look, I've kind of given up on estimating what Darlene

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Speaker 27: Tana will do. What we've been focused on is consistently

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Speaker 27: continuing to perch our values at the forefront.

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Speaker 3: Of ye with integrity. You should be thinking about this

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Speaker 3: because this is her humans, because it's but this is

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Speaker 3: I this is making this makes you guys look like

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00:52:27,440 --> 00:52:28,760
Speaker 3: idiots in public?

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Speaker 27: Well I think you are.

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Speaker 3: I'm just saying she is making fools of You're in.

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Speaker 27: You're entitled to your freedom of speech here. But look,

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Speaker 27: what I will say is that we have control over

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Speaker 27: what we have control over. And look, as I have

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Speaker 27: found in the last several years that I have been

1159
00:52:45,480 --> 00:52:48,000
Speaker 27: doing this job, and the public arena, everyone is always

1160
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Speaker 27: going to have an opinion on everything that you do.

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Speaker 27: The best that you can do is step with your

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Speaker 27: values at the forefront and act accordingly, and we have

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Speaker 27: consistently done that demonstrating and I think that it makes

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Speaker 27: it pretty clear on that independent investigation, our executive summary

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00:53:03,160 --> 00:53:05,400
Speaker 27: that we put out there publicly as to why we

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Speaker 27: have come to that conclusion that Darlian Tanna is not

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Speaker 27: fit to be a member of Parliament, and we've simply

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Speaker 27: been asking for that accountability and that responsibility. And again

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Speaker 27: make the point here that if we were looking for

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Speaker 27: the best possible result, it would be for her to

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Speaker 27: take that accountability and responsibility and to resign herself. But

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Speaker 27: in lieu of doing that, we are stepping through the

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Speaker 27: motions and operating consistently and in line with our values.

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Speaker 3: Are you sure that you shouldn't just let this one go,

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Speaker 3: just leave her up there in siber area, because it

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Speaker 3: just you know, because this could just keep on dragging

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Speaker 3: on and making fools of you.

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Speaker 27: Again, we have control over what we have ConTroll over,

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Speaker 27: and what we have control over is going back to

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Speaker 27: our party membership and saying, let's reconcile with this deeply

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Speaker 27: unusual and for the first time that we've ever been

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Speaker 27: confronted with this situation. A member of Parliament that was

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Speaker 27: elected on our list, noting three hundred and thirty thousand

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Speaker 27: New Zealanders across the country, voted the month's recent election

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Speaker 27: to give the Greens fifteen seats in Parliament to fight

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Speaker 27: for people and planet. We're now down one of those

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Speaker 27: seats and the vote that comes with that seat, but

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Speaker 27: also obviously the kind of proportionality of questions that are

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Speaker 27: afforded in the House, and also the likes of the

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Speaker 27: resources that we have to go out there.

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Speaker 3: Money to engagatically. Want your money back, Chloe had, Well,

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Speaker 3: how do you feel about the fact that there is

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Speaker 3: a wealthy Green Party donor backing her?

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Speaker 27: I am not interested in really speculating on her. If

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Speaker 27: it's backing her, doesn't.

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Speaker 3: It show you that the party's divided on this.

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Speaker 27: I think that you'll find in any given political party

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Speaker 27: that there'll be a difference of opinion, and you could

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Speaker 27: probably find one person on any given issue who will

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Speaker 27: disagree with whatever the leadership's up to. So I'm pretty

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Speaker 27: comfortable with that.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, Chloe, appreciate time. As always, It's Cloe Swawbrick,

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00:54:45,600 --> 00:54:47,719
Speaker 3: Green Party co leader hear the Why doest Chloe think

1204
00:54:47,719 --> 00:54:50,839
Speaker 3: an interview has a minimum word count? Nineteen away from six?

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Speaker 1: The huddle with New Zealand Southerby's international Realty, local and

1206
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Speaker 1: global exposure like no other.

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Speaker 3: I'll muddle with me this evening. Tim Wilson of the

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Speaker 3: Maximum Institute in Richard Hill's Auckland councilor hello you too, Cure.

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Speaker 3: Do you think Richard they should just give it up

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Speaker 3: because the old mates thinking about appealing?

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Speaker 17: Oh?

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Speaker 28: How annoying is this process? Just walk a jumper out

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Speaker 28: of here like.

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Speaker 3: But they can't because democracy and it's the Greens I know.

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Speaker 28: But what is she going to do for the next

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Speaker 28: two years? Sit there and just be in.

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Speaker 3: The appeal and just reappeal and just reappeal.

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Speaker 28: It seems ridiculous.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but if you were in this and listen, you're

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Speaker 3: a politician, Yes, if you were in this position, what

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00:55:31,480 --> 00:55:32,000
Speaker 3: would you do?

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Speaker 6: Which position?

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Speaker 3: This position where Darlene is screwing you in public?

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Speaker 17: Oh?

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Speaker 3: I would just if you were Chloe.

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Speaker 28: Find a new lawyer to say they should not be

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Speaker 28: in parliament. I mean she's not in the Green Party anymore,

1228
00:55:44,920 --> 00:55:47,480
Speaker 28: and people voted for the Green Party for MP's and

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Speaker 28: she's not.

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Speaker 3: So would you so at this point you become slightly

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Speaker 3: dictatorial and you say, never mind democracy, We're just going

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Speaker 3: to walk a jumper.

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Speaker 28: No, I think the issue is relationships and apparently that

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00:55:58,000 --> 00:56:02,880
Speaker 28: she didn't say the right truthings. It's not about disagreeing

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Speaker 28: on a policy, if it was about a policy something.

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Speaker 3: But Richard, so, yes, they can walk a jump up,

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Speaker 3: but now they are always wanting to go to their delegates,

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Speaker 3: and in the three weeks before they go to their delegates,

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Speaker 3: she appeals again, what do you think, Tim? What should that?

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Speaker 3: Because if you look at the polls, Mate, when Chloe

1241
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Speaker 3: took over, they were sitting fourteen fifteen in the polls,

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Speaker 3: they're now sitting ten and eleven. Because Darlene is hurting them.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I think a few things are hurting them.

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Speaker 29: But I've got to say I'm heartened if I hear

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Speaker 29: the Greens leader talking about sun Zu, free speech and

1246
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Speaker 29: accountability and those are fantastic. Those are fantastic concepts. Let's

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Speaker 29: embrace them. And look, I think I think you're right,

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Speaker 29: but I think in terms of in terms of the

1249
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Speaker 29: way that people are going to respond to it if.

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Speaker 5: They do, if they don't go through this process.

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Speaker 29: You've already seen the Pacifica Greens leave and if there's

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Speaker 29: declining support, I do feel like they're cannibalizing their own

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Speaker 29: interior in some ways. So so it's super problematic. I

1254
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Speaker 29: think they do have to do it in public. They

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Speaker 29: do have to get the seventy five percent. Sure she

1256
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Speaker 29: can get a lawyer, but she'll be increasingly isolated and

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Speaker 29: perhaps they'll be able to gather gather some momentum. But

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Speaker 29: again the issue, I think there's a deeper issue there

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Speaker 29: with how Pacifica people feel like they've been treated by

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Speaker 29: that quote unquote democracy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they're not loving today, hey, or you guys, you Richard.

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Speaker 3: Auckland Council are going to see the Auckland Council workers

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Speaker 3: back in five days a week.

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Speaker 28: So I saw Verbeck asking, and I'm hoping she's talking

1265
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Speaker 28: to all her members, not just Auckland Council. So I

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00:57:33,000 --> 00:57:36,200
Speaker 28: hear a lot of the buildings around the city center

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Speaker 28: are empty or not very full. But with Auckland Council

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Speaker 28: we have about eighty eight percent last month in the

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Speaker 28: city Center building was full. I think Monaco was one

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Speaker 28: hundred and seven percent.

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Speaker 3: Averaging and then you downsized. Yeah, we're downsized size to Mancow.

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Speaker 28: We downsized as a city.

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Speaker 3: Now you downsized your floor size and manecaw for Auckland

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Speaker 3: Council no size.

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Speaker 17: As a city.

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Speaker 28: We're saving about thirty four million dollars by downsizing office spaces.

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Speaker 28: We've moved the CEOs into our building things like that.

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00:58:07,200 --> 00:58:10,720
Speaker 3: So why it's full because you've reduced the floor space,

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Speaker 3: isn't it?

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Speaker 28: Well a little bit of that, but also we have

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Speaker 28: our staff and libraries, leisure centers working nights. Yeah, it's

1282
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Speaker 28: not like a perfect system of.

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Speaker 3: Okay, what about I'm talking about the dudes at the desks.

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Speaker 28: The building is like eighty eight percent PIL last month,

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Speaker 28: and the Monaco Albany are all about eighty ninety percent.

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Speaker 28: So people are working from the office. But there's still

1287
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Speaker 28: ability to have flexibility for parents for whatever reason. And

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Speaker 28: I talked to the CEO today and he said they're

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00:58:37,920 --> 00:58:41,760
Speaker 28: having no issues with productivity or they don't believe anyone's

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Speaker 28: like taking advantage. It's actually helped people come back to

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Speaker 28: the office earlier if they have that choice because they're

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Speaker 28: able to have a bit more flexibility coming fewer days.

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Speaker 28: So but largely, to be honest, I'm there almost every

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Speaker 28: day because I like, I prefer it. Most councilors are

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Speaker 28: not in every day and most of the floors are full.

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Speaker 17: The cafe is full.

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Speaker 28: That elevators trying to get up if you're in a

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00:59:04,040 --> 00:59:07,160
Speaker 28: rush is a bit of a mission sometimes. So I

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Speaker 28: am not seeing an issue from our building. But if

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Speaker 28: the Beck wants to talk to all of their members,

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Speaker 28: if that's an issue. But I don't think it's also

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00:59:13,960 --> 00:59:16,840
Speaker 28: up to Auckland Council organ council staff to go out

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00:59:16,840 --> 00:59:21,080
Speaker 28: and buy this, you know, only Aukan Council's responsibility to

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Speaker 28: buy stuff in the city center.

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Speaker 3: No, No, it's about leadership and setting an example life because

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Speaker 3: where she was going, Tim, I want your take on it.

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Speaker 3: We'll get it after the break. It's fourteen away from.

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Speaker 1: Six the Huddle with New Zealand Southeby's International Realty elevate

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Speaker 1: the marketing of your home.

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Speaker 3: Right, you're back with the Huddle Richard Hill's and Tim Wilson. Tim,

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Speaker 3: what do you reckon about Auckland Council sending the staff

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Speaker 3: back in yeah.

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Speaker 29: Yeah. Look, I think what we do at maxim as

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Speaker 29: we do four days and at work and one day

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Speaker 29: flexi on a Friday. And I think it's all about productivity,

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Speaker 29: isn't it. It's like, how do people actually produce the

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Speaker 29: most in this at work? Is it at home or

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Speaker 29: is it in the office? And some studies say it's

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Speaker 29: at home? Some studies saying what's what? I thought was

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Speaker 29: really interesting And one of the things I read was

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Speaker 29: that workers aren't very good at assessing where they're the

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Speaker 29: most productive. So it'sing the CEOs are saying they're productive,

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Speaker 29: then that's positive.

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Speaker 5: I do.

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Speaker 29: I do think though, that accountability is a big issue.

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Speaker 5: And I've heard someone someone who.

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Speaker 29: Sort of two steps removed, went in as a manager

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Speaker 29: and found that people were doing ten minutes work and

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Speaker 29: billing for an hour. So you've got to cut that

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Speaker 29: sort of stuff out, like you know, I think, Look,

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Speaker 29: I say, you know what, come in three days a week,

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Speaker 29: but make it easier to sack people who aren't performing.

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Speaker 29: That's the way forward.

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Speaker 3: That's true. Why do you do a Friday though? Why

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Speaker 3: don't you do flexi on a Wednesday?

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Speaker 5: What's what's wrong? What's wrong with well? Wednesday.

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Speaker 29: Wednesdays the day when you got to grit it out, Heather,

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Speaker 29: that's hunt Days.

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Speaker 3: Friday is obviously spending spending time in your car driving

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Speaker 3: to the corimandal, isn't it.

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Speaker 29: No, No, we operate a high trust environment at Maxim Institute.

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Speaker 29: I know they're not driving to the corimandal because I've

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Speaker 29: got ankle bracelets for.

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Speaker 2: The lad of that.

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Speaker 3: It makes absolute sense. Do you think Richard, that Madison

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Speaker 3: Ashton the mistress prostitute? Had she appeared? I mean, isn't

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Speaker 3: that just so salacious? Had she appeared in court, would

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Speaker 3: she have changed the jury's mind?

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Speaker 28: I think I might be one of the only people

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Speaker 28: in New Zealand who has not read or what followed

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Speaker 28: this all.

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Speaker 3: Why not?

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Speaker 28: Because I'm very busy and it seemed like bold.

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Speaker 5: Enough, and because it's good. It's good for it's good

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Speaker 5: for you. Richard, don't follow the details.

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Speaker 29: You're actually a more cheerful, optimistic and hopeful person because

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Speaker 29: you don't know the details.

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Speaker 3: Did you not follow it?

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Speaker 28: It sounded wild?

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Speaker 29: I just know I deliberately avoided it, To be honest,

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Speaker 29: I didn't. I don't want to sit there drawling like

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Speaker 29: some for you about the sexual incontinence, the sadness and

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Speaker 29: the fragility of the rich and miserable.

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Speaker 5: No, thank you.

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Speaker 3: Oh you've shamed us now, Tim, Like, there's no coming back.

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Speaker 29: I can't even can I say that in a funny way?

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Speaker 3: Can you try that?

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Speaker 28: I do imagine if enter the Pole did get hurt too,

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Speaker 28: it would have blown up into this even bigger, ridiculous spectacle.

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Speaker 28: And it does seem odd that it was. I think

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Speaker 28: it's like a podcast and everything now, but.

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Speaker 3: Oh is it a podcast? It's multiple podcasts. You just

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Speaker 3: show how little it's multiple. Holy Hannah. Hey, okay, listen

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Speaker 3: Tim on Andrew Costa, do you have any concerns about

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Speaker 3: the fact that he quite clearly has been given a

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Speaker 3: sweet job to leave the job that we don't want

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Speaker 3: him in anymore.

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Speaker 29: Look, maybe I'm a bit nay, but I think he's

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Speaker 29: he's proved a great deal of leadership within the police.

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Speaker 26: Now.

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Speaker 29: It probably goes back to as my understanding is that

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Speaker 29: the police commissioner pretty much has to execute what the

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Speaker 29: government determines his policy.

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Speaker 5: So under under Labor, he did what they what they wanted.

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Speaker 29: I actually think he showed leadership during the parliamentary protest

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Speaker 29: because he went and engaged with the protesters, which is

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Speaker 29: something that almost no one come in our political class

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Speaker 29: did stop it.

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Speaker 3: If you don't move you, I'm going to tell your

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Speaker 3: cars today And then the next day he'd be like, no,

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Speaker 3: I really.

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Speaker 5: Mean I did hear that.

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Speaker 29: I didn't hear that. But he's also here's the deal.

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Speaker 29: He's also locked up common chieros. So if he can

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Speaker 29: work with both sides of the House, he's going to

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Speaker 29: be awesome on this role.

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Speaker 3: I actually think he is going to be good in

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Speaker 3: this role, Richard, because I think this is as will happen.

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Speaker 28: He has a really good and this is the problem

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Speaker 28: with politicians when they're campaigning either side bagging the public servants.

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Speaker 28: Because we're not like America where we switch all the

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Speaker 28: public servants out tomorrow, sweep them all out.

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Speaker 3: They're actually got to work with them.

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Speaker 28: Whoops, Like I'm elected now and I have to deal

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Speaker 28: with these people I've been dashing every day. So I

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Speaker 28: think the issue is it's good in New Zealand that

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Speaker 28: we have this continuity, we have these people that can

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Speaker 28: work with either side. But it does come back when

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Speaker 28: you see Mark Mitchell like sort of red face when

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Speaker 28: they're asking him in those first few months, like do

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Speaker 28: you hate Andrew Cossin. They're like no, he's actually a

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Speaker 28: very fine man, you know, because they don't have a

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Speaker 28: choice now because ministerial rules are different to opposition rules,

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Speaker 28: and so it's a bit of theater, it's a bit

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Speaker 28: of campaigning, but it is a good lesson for the

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Speaker 28: next election or the following elections that people just need

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Speaker 28: to think about what this is.

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Speaker 3: So it's MAC talk guys, it's really lovely chatted the

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Speaker 3: pair of you. Thank you. Tim Wilson of the Maximu

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Speaker 3: Institute and Richard Hll's Auckland counselor seven Away from six on.

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Speaker 1: Your smart speaker, on the iHeart app and in your

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Speaker 1: car on your drive home. Heather Duples see allan drive

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Speaker 1: with One New Zealand one Giant Leap for Business News Talk.

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Speaker 3: Zibbi Okay, I was just talking to Richard as he

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Speaker 3: was walking out the door about sleep regressions. I didn't

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Speaker 3: know this, but did you know it? Two and a

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Speaker 3: half years you get a sleep regression with your baby

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Speaker 3: and it's just like Satan on wheels. Isn't it just

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Speaker 3: crying in the cop for a full hour, isn't it

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Speaker 3: but it's obviously not crying by itself in the cop

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Speaker 3: for a full hour, because that would be cruel. So

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Speaker 3: it's crying at mummy's face. So anyway, best of luck

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Speaker 3: to myself. I just said to Richard, this is what

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Speaker 3: I said to Richard, because his boy is two months

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Speaker 3: off three, so they've been dealing with the sleep regression

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Speaker 3: now for four months. And I said to Richard started

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Speaker 3: for us on Friday night with a hiss and a raw,

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Speaker 3: and I'm going to break the back of this thing

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Speaker 3: by in two weeks time. And so I've set it

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Speaker 3: in my diary two weeks from now it will be over.

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Speaker 3: We'll see, we'll see. That's some epic confidence. We're going

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Speaker 3: to talk to the FMA just after six o'clock about

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Speaker 3: this fact that we've got the key we saver going

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Speaker 3: up by epic amounts. Also quite a bit coming out,

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Speaker 3: people taking it out, presumably for hardship and stuff like that.

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Speaker 3: We'll talk through it. The Democrats are apparently increasingly worried

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Speaker 3: that the Poles are getting it wrong, and Karmela is

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Speaker 3: not as far ahead of Donald as we think. Now

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Speaker 3: bear this in mind when you read the polls from

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Speaker 3: heroinin because I do. I mean, if the Democrats are

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Speaker 3: saying this themselves, they've got a point. They reckon what's

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Speaker 3: happening in the polls, as they're under counting Trump's voter support.

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Speaker 3: What they're worried about, particularly are three battleground states Pennsylvania, Michigan,

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Speaker 3: and Wisconsin, because her margins are small there and she

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Speaker 3: has to win these three. Her margins are only about

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Speaker 3: one to two percent. Maybe in one of them. I

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Speaker 3: think it's up to four percent or thereabout, but it's

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Speaker 3: not big enough. In twenty sixteen, Trump outperformed predictions in

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Speaker 3: all three of those state and won them all. And

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Speaker 3: in twenty twenty, Biden had a massive lead on the night,

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Speaker 3: his lead with tiny, so that says that they do

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Speaker 3: not count those states properly for Trump. What's really freaking

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Speaker 3: them out is the latest New York Times poll, which

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Speaker 3: shows Trump doing better in three battleground states Georgia, Arizona,

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Speaker 3: and North Carolina than he has in weeks. Arizona he's

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Speaker 3: leading by five points, Georgia, he's leading by four points.

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Speaker 3: North Carolina, where they've got that ridiculous Mark Robinson causing

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Speaker 3: him trouble. He's only got a two point lead. If

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Speaker 3: he outstripped the polling predictions in these six states by

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Speaker 3: the same margins that he did in twenty twenty, he.

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Speaker 1: Wins, what's down, what were the major calls and how

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Speaker 1: will it affect the economy.

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Speaker 2: Of a big business?

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Speaker 1: Question is on the Business Hour, we've hit the Duplessy

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Speaker 1: Allen and my Hr on.

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Speaker 2: News Talks V.

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Speaker 3: Even coming up in the next hour. Gareth Keernan with

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Speaker 3: some actual numbers on working from home because we actually

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Speaker 3: don't have any of those. He's going to run us

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Speaker 3: through that. Jamie McKay on what to expect from Fonterra's

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Speaker 3: numbers tomorrow. And Paul Blocks on why the Reserve Bank

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Speaker 3: of Australia held the cash rate today. It's seven past

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Speaker 3: six now. Ken we Saver investments have had a new milestone,

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Speaker 3: topping over one hundred billion dollars for the first time

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Speaker 3: in New Zealand. The amount of money in managed funds

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Speaker 3: has increased by nineteen percent and what that means is

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Speaker 3: that sixty two percent of us are now invested in

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Speaker 3: a key we save a fund. John Horner is the

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Speaker 3: director of the Financial Markets Authority. Hey, John, Hi, is

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Speaker 3: there a particular reason why our key we save in

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Speaker 3: investments have jumped up that much in just a year.

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Speaker 14: Look, it's probably a bounce back from the prior year

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Speaker 14: where returns on investment we're negative. So we always look

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Speaker 14: at these things long term. Great to see a bounce back,

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Speaker 14: but that's the long term accounts.

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Speaker 3: What do you make of the number of withdrawals or

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Speaker 3: the value of the withdrawals.

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Speaker 14: Possibly a sign of the times, that's these cost of

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Speaker 14: living challenges, that's difficult economic conditions, and so it's probably

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Speaker 14: key we Saber working as it was designed to allow

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Speaker 14: those withdrawals to happen.

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Speaker 3: How much okay, so how much of the money that's

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Speaker 3: being withdrawn is being taken out to basically just pay

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Speaker 3: the bills.

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Speaker 14: We won't know the reasons in for the withdrawals. I

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Speaker 14: mean hardship applications. It's quite a high threshold. It's not

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Speaker 14: a matter if I can't pay my bills just now,

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Speaker 14: but it's quite a significant threshold to overcome. That's dealt

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Speaker 14: with by the supervisors Saber providers. They assess the hardship

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Speaker 14: applications and make those decisions.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, just off the top of my head of something

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Speaker 3: like five billion, that's been taken out in the last year.

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Speaker 22: Yeah, I think that's right.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, five billion was drawn by members and so that'll

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Speaker 14: also be over sixty fives as well. So they're the

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Speaker 14: ones who are actually using their kiwisaver in their retirement.

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Speaker 3: Right, And the key we say, sorry, the over sixty

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Speaker 3: fives actually make up the vast majority of that about

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Speaker 3: three billion. But how do we know they don't need

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Speaker 3: it for hardship?

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Speaker 14: Well, they can use it for whatever reason they like, right,

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Speaker 14: So you're right. I mean, if you're in your retirement,

1523
01:08:50,680 --> 01:08:54,559
Speaker 14: kevsaver is all about your financial wellbeing and your retirement years.

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01:08:54,920 --> 01:08:57,439
Speaker 14: Some of those folks will still be working, maybe part time,

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01:08:57,479 --> 01:09:00,400
Speaker 14: maybe full time, but TV taper is available for them

1526
01:09:00,400 --> 01:09:01,360
Speaker 14: to use as they wish.

1527
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Speaker 3: And so I suppose we can't break it out and

1528
01:09:03,240 --> 01:09:04,920
Speaker 3: look at how many of them are taking it up

1529
01:09:04,920 --> 01:09:07,040
Speaker 3: because they're leaving the country altogether or anything like that.

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01:09:07,080 --> 01:09:12,559
Speaker 14: Can we look the numbers are as reported? There's an

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01:09:12,560 --> 01:09:15,160
Speaker 14: also a lot of numbers in there, so I can't

1532
01:09:15,200 --> 01:09:19,439
Speaker 14: speak to all of them. But yeah, the withdrawals, the

1533
01:09:19,520 --> 01:09:24,480
Speaker 14: headline figures for the withdrawals is the number week we focus.

1534
01:09:24,160 --> 01:09:27,000
Speaker 3: On, what do you make of only sixty two percent

1535
01:09:27,000 --> 01:09:29,360
Speaker 3: of us being invested in key We SAB fund. I

1536
01:09:29,400 --> 01:09:32,080
Speaker 3: suppose glass half full. That's not a bad number, but

1537
01:09:32,200 --> 01:09:34,559
Speaker 3: glass half empty. There's still a fair chunk of us

1538
01:09:34,880 --> 01:09:35,799
Speaker 3: who aren't invested.

1539
01:09:36,600 --> 01:09:40,040
Speaker 14: That's right. We'd always like it to be more, and obviously,

1540
01:09:40,160 --> 01:09:43,400
Speaker 14: like the members who are part of KI we savor

1541
01:09:43,479 --> 01:09:49,880
Speaker 14: to be contributing. But again, relative to the times we're

1542
01:09:49,920 --> 01:09:52,880
Speaker 14: going through at the moment, we think the contributions have

1543
01:09:53,240 --> 01:09:57,080
Speaker 14: held pretty steady. We'd always like those who have cys

1544
01:09:57,160 --> 01:09:59,920
Speaker 14: to make contributions to come back and start those again

1545
01:10:00,080 --> 01:10:01,160
Speaker 14: just as soon as they can.

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01:10:02,000 --> 01:10:05,120
Speaker 3: John, most people are in growth funds. Now. Does that

1547
01:10:05,160 --> 01:10:07,559
Speaker 3: reflect the age of the investors that they are of

1548
01:10:07,600 --> 01:10:09,920
Speaker 3: a younger profile or is this something else going on here?

1549
01:10:11,240 --> 01:10:14,760
Speaker 14: Maybe not so much the age, more the investment horizon

1550
01:10:14,800 --> 01:10:18,559
Speaker 14: that they're looking at as their long term investment. They've

1551
01:10:18,560 --> 01:10:21,360
Speaker 14: got a long term horizon sort of ten years and plus,

1552
01:10:22,000 --> 01:10:24,519
Speaker 14: then growth fund is most likely to be the right

1553
01:10:24,600 --> 01:10:25,240
Speaker 14: fund for them.

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01:10:25,800 --> 01:10:27,599
Speaker 3: John, it's good to talk to you. Thank you very much,

1555
01:10:27,640 --> 01:10:30,839
Speaker 3: really appreciate it. John Horner, Director of the Financial Markets Authority.

1556
01:10:31,760 --> 01:10:33,679
Speaker 3: Heither can you please look into the realize that agents

1557
01:10:33,720 --> 01:10:37,280
Speaker 3: losing their licenses for not completing the Maori cultural courses. Yeah,

1558
01:10:37,760 --> 01:10:39,160
Speaker 3: I'm going to raise that with you. You're going to

1559
01:10:39,240 --> 01:10:41,360
Speaker 3: hear this. You're going to have to hear this. The

1560
01:10:41,400 --> 01:10:44,960
Speaker 3: old Fletcher Building thing seems to be an old albatross

1561
01:10:45,000 --> 01:10:47,639
Speaker 3: hanging around some people who are associated with its next

1562
01:10:47,680 --> 01:10:51,040
Speaker 3: at the moment, A Bruce Hassel made buff may be

1563
01:10:51,240 --> 01:10:53,120
Speaker 3: regretting that he ever had anything to do with it.

1564
01:10:53,160 --> 01:10:55,599
Speaker 3: He was the chair of Fletcher Building. He has now

1565
01:10:55,640 --> 01:10:58,599
Speaker 3: just withdrawn his nomination for election to the Victor Board.

1566
01:10:58,720 --> 01:11:03,760
Speaker 3: Completely unrelated, but has decided to withdraw his nomination for

1567
01:11:03,840 --> 01:11:08,200
Speaker 3: election because feedback from shareholders, obviously when it was not

1568
01:11:08,400 --> 01:11:11,120
Speaker 3: very positive about his previous role as the chair of

1569
01:11:11,120 --> 01:11:15,320
Speaker 3: Fletcher Building. The Victor's current chair, Doug mckaye's expressed disappointment

1570
01:11:15,320 --> 01:11:17,320
Speaker 3: on behalf of the board said Hassel had made you know,

1571
01:11:17,439 --> 01:11:20,479
Speaker 3: significant contributions since he joined last October and blah blah blah,

1572
01:11:20,479 --> 01:11:22,559
Speaker 3: and he had the unanimous support of his board colleagues,

1573
01:11:23,040 --> 01:11:26,080
Speaker 3: but unfortunately the shareholders don't love it. And so he's

1574
01:11:26,120 --> 01:11:27,240
Speaker 3: out twelve past.

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01:11:27,000 --> 01:11:32,680
Speaker 2: Six crunching the numbers and getting the results.

1576
01:11:32,840 --> 01:11:36,160
Speaker 1: It's Heather dupice Ellen with the business hours thanks to

1577
01:11:36,280 --> 01:11:41,040
Speaker 1: my HR, the HR platform for SME on newstalksb Hea.

1578
01:11:41,080 --> 01:11:43,920
Speaker 3: The Chloe's interview is definitely two bottles of salad dressing

1579
01:11:43,920 --> 01:11:46,639
Speaker 3: from Steve Hither. We will need a four year term

1580
01:11:46,680 --> 01:11:48,839
Speaker 3: if the Greens have anything to do with the next government,

1581
01:11:48,840 --> 01:11:50,400
Speaker 3: as it will take them more than three years to

1582
01:11:50,400 --> 01:11:52,160
Speaker 3: make a decision. That's a fair point. Actually, can you

1583
01:11:52,200 --> 01:11:55,040
Speaker 3: imagine if they decided to start taking everything to the delegates.

1584
01:11:55,320 --> 01:11:57,040
Speaker 3: We're going to meet with the delegates in three weeks

1585
01:11:57,040 --> 01:11:58,599
Speaker 3: time to see if they like what the Prime Minister's

1586
01:11:58,600 --> 01:12:00,000
Speaker 3: suggesting that we have to do and how we should

1587
01:12:00,040 --> 01:12:01,640
Speaker 3: vote on this in the future. So that's going to

1588
01:12:01,640 --> 01:12:05,559
Speaker 3: take a little while. So yep, democracy, democracy and action,

1589
01:12:05,680 --> 01:12:08,240
Speaker 3: isn't it? Quarter past six now? Working from home right

1590
01:12:08,320 --> 01:12:10,160
Speaker 3: has been the talk, big talking point of the week

1591
01:12:10,240 --> 01:12:13,360
Speaker 3: so far. What we don't have is a lot of numbers,

1592
01:12:13,439 --> 01:12:14,840
Speaker 3: so we thought we'd crunch a few of them just

1593
01:12:14,880 --> 01:12:16,960
Speaker 3: to get a bit of context into this debate. And

1594
01:12:17,000 --> 01:12:20,839
Speaker 3: Gareth Kernan is Informetric's chief forecasters, who's been a forecaster,

1595
01:12:20,880 --> 01:12:24,240
Speaker 3: who's been doing the numbers for us at Gareth evening here, mate,

1596
01:12:24,280 --> 01:12:26,479
Speaker 3: do we have any idea how many people are actually

1597
01:12:26,520 --> 01:12:27,560
Speaker 3: working from Home.

1598
01:12:28,560 --> 01:12:31,439
Speaker 20: Statsenter did a survey last year and showed that about

1599
01:12:31,520 --> 01:12:34,160
Speaker 20: forty three percent of people have the option to work

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01:12:34,200 --> 01:12:37,760
Speaker 20: from home, and some other numbers suggest that around about

1601
01:12:37,800 --> 01:12:40,120
Speaker 20: eighty percent of those people have worked from home in

1602
01:12:40,160 --> 01:12:42,400
Speaker 20: the last three months or so, not saying they work

1603
01:12:42,439 --> 01:12:45,960
Speaker 20: from home every week, but at least utilizing that option

1604
01:12:46,360 --> 01:12:50,640
Speaker 20: to some extent. It's interesting when you look at professional services,

1605
01:12:50,720 --> 01:12:52,839
Speaker 20: which you know, the talk has been about the government

1606
01:12:52,840 --> 01:12:55,599
Speaker 20: this week, and it's probably the closest industry we've got

1607
01:12:55,600 --> 01:12:57,320
Speaker 20: sort of lining up with the sort of work there.

1608
01:12:57,880 --> 01:13:00,559
Speaker 20: Eighty one percent of people are able to work from home,

1609
01:13:00,640 --> 01:13:03,240
Speaker 20: so it is massively prevalent, as you'd expect, I guess

1610
01:13:03,280 --> 01:13:05,800
Speaker 20: through you know those sort of office based jobs.

1611
01:13:06,600 --> 01:13:09,559
Speaker 3: Do you think that sending these guys back is the

1612
01:13:09,600 --> 01:13:12,759
Speaker 3: proportion of the workforce in Wellington being the civil service

1613
01:13:12,840 --> 01:13:16,200
Speaker 3: big enough to actually impact Wellington if we sent them

1614
01:13:16,200 --> 01:13:18,120
Speaker 3: all back five days a week, let's say.

1615
01:13:19,400 --> 01:13:21,439
Speaker 20: Well, I mean, look the civil service, it's about twenty

1616
01:13:21,479 --> 01:13:24,760
Speaker 20: percent of Wellington's workforce, compared to across the rest of

1617
01:13:24,760 --> 01:13:27,520
Speaker 20: the country around about five percent, so it is significant.

1618
01:13:28,040 --> 01:13:30,519
Speaker 20: But I was fascinated looking at the public transport usage

1619
01:13:30,520 --> 01:13:34,879
Speaker 20: actually on a regional basis. I mean Wellington's public transport

1620
01:13:34,960 --> 01:13:37,360
Speaker 20: usage this year to date, it is down about six

1621
01:13:37,400 --> 01:13:39,720
Speaker 20: percent from where it was in twenty nineteen, back when

1622
01:13:39,720 --> 01:13:43,360
Speaker 20: the world was all normal. Auckland, I was surprised to

1623
01:13:43,400 --> 01:13:45,519
Speaker 20: look at Auckland fourteen percent down, and then I remember

1624
01:13:45,520 --> 01:13:47,320
Speaker 20: that you guys have had massive problems, you know, and

1625
01:13:47,439 --> 01:13:48,920
Speaker 20: fixing your train lines and all that.

1626
01:13:48,840 --> 01:13:49,360
Speaker 17: Sort of thing.

1627
01:13:50,120 --> 01:13:52,639
Speaker 20: But even bus usage in Auckland are still around, sitting

1628
01:13:52,680 --> 01:13:55,519
Speaker 20: around about seven percent below where it was in twenty nineteen.

1629
01:13:55,680 --> 01:13:57,240
Speaker 20: So there's sort of a bit of a feeling that

1630
01:13:57,520 --> 01:14:00,160
Speaker 20: there's other issues at play in Wellington, a part up

1631
01:14:00,240 --> 01:14:02,759
Speaker 20: from just the fact that public servants have been working

1632
01:14:02,760 --> 01:14:04,600
Speaker 20: from home. I mean, there's been a lot of discussion

1633
01:14:04,960 --> 01:14:06,880
Speaker 20: down here, of course about the sort of creek in

1634
01:14:07,080 --> 01:14:09,960
Speaker 20: infrastructure and the unattractiveness of the center of town with

1635
01:14:10,400 --> 01:14:13,800
Speaker 20: earthquake damaged buildings and that type of thing. We haven't

1636
01:14:13,840 --> 01:14:16,200
Speaker 20: had a lot of population growth here as well at times.

1637
01:14:16,560 --> 01:14:18,280
Speaker 20: And you overlay all of that, of course with the

1638
01:14:18,280 --> 01:14:20,840
Speaker 20: actual job cuts we've seen to the public sector, and

1639
01:14:20,840 --> 01:14:23,799
Speaker 20: I think there's probably bigger issues at play then simply,

1640
01:14:23,840 --> 01:14:26,040
Speaker 20: you know, too many people working from home and not

1641
01:14:26,080 --> 01:14:27,760
Speaker 20: spending enough in the cafes in town.

1642
01:14:27,840 --> 01:14:29,880
Speaker 3: The defense that you get from people who don't want

1643
01:14:29,960 --> 01:14:31,760
Speaker 3: to have to go back to work, the unions or

1644
01:14:31,800 --> 01:14:33,160
Speaker 3: you know, don't want to have to send the staff

1645
01:14:33,160 --> 01:14:35,280
Speaker 3: back to work is that there isn't a problem with productivity.

1646
01:14:35,280 --> 01:14:38,080
Speaker 3: It hasn't decreased. But can we actually say that with confidence?

1647
01:14:38,160 --> 01:14:40,519
Speaker 3: Is anybody at any of these agencies or private sector

1648
01:14:40,560 --> 01:14:44,479
Speaker 3: employers actually measuring productivity often enough to know for sure?

1649
01:14:45,640 --> 01:14:48,280
Speaker 20: I think there's been so many sort of conflicting studies

1650
01:14:48,320 --> 01:14:50,040
Speaker 20: on it, it's really hard to come to any sort

1651
01:14:50,040 --> 01:14:53,040
Speaker 20: of firm conclusion about the productivity outcomes. And I get

1652
01:14:53,080 --> 01:14:56,040
Speaker 20: the feeling that it really depends on your organization. It

1653
01:14:56,080 --> 01:14:58,400
Speaker 20: really depends on the individuals that play as well. You know,

1654
01:14:58,479 --> 01:15:01,080
Speaker 20: for some people working at home with the interruptions is

1655
01:15:01,760 --> 01:15:04,240
Speaker 20: fantastic and they do get more done. For others you

1656
01:15:04,360 --> 01:15:06,439
Speaker 20: kind of feel like, you know, maybe maybe they are

1657
01:15:06,479 --> 01:15:08,280
Speaker 20: taking the piece of it and you know, a couple

1658
01:15:08,320 --> 01:15:10,360
Speaker 20: of hours work here and a couple of hours work there.

1659
01:15:11,160 --> 01:15:13,559
Speaker 3: So, gare you work in Wellington? Do you know any

1660
01:15:13,560 --> 01:15:16,200
Speaker 3: public sector? Got any mates? So we're taking the mickey

1661
01:15:16,200 --> 01:15:16,680
Speaker 3: a little bit.

1662
01:15:18,240 --> 01:15:21,720
Speaker 20: No, My mates are all very very strong working. I

1663
01:15:21,840 --> 01:15:24,439
Speaker 20: can't believe you to cure some of that, but no loans,

1664
01:15:24,600 --> 01:15:29,439
Speaker 20: I know, heaps, Yeah, no, I mean look for look

1665
01:15:29,880 --> 01:15:32,280
Speaker 20: from an infometric's point of view, I mean, we've always

1666
01:15:32,320 --> 01:15:34,200
Speaker 20: had quite a flexible work and policy.

1667
01:15:33,960 --> 01:15:34,839
Speaker 5: Even pre COVID.

1668
01:15:34,880 --> 01:15:37,759
Speaker 20: But we're a small organization with you know, twelve thirteen,

1669
01:15:37,840 --> 01:15:40,080
Speaker 20: fourteen people. It's pretty easy to see sort of holes

1670
01:15:40,240 --> 01:15:42,840
Speaker 20: in people's productivity if they're not pulling their weight. It

1671
01:15:42,920 --> 01:15:45,240
Speaker 20: is a lot harder in those bigger organizations and obviously

1672
01:15:45,320 --> 01:15:48,240
Speaker 20: the public sector. I think imagine it's a lot harder

1673
01:15:48,240 --> 01:15:50,680
Speaker 20: to keep tabs on everybody and that sort of situation.

1674
01:15:51,080 --> 01:15:53,840
Speaker 3: Yeah too, right, Hey, Gareth, as always really appreciate you

1675
01:15:53,880 --> 01:15:55,400
Speaker 3: doing the numbers for us and chatting to you. That's

1676
01:15:55,439 --> 01:15:58,760
Speaker 3: Gareth Kenan, chief forecast at Informetrics. All right, here we go.

1677
01:15:58,840 --> 01:16:02,640
Speaker 3: This is what's happened with the the compulsory Maori cultural

1678
01:16:02,640 --> 01:16:04,960
Speaker 3: course for the real estate agents. There is a chap

1679
01:16:05,000 --> 01:16:07,360
Speaker 3: who was or is I don't really know because I

1680
01:16:07,400 --> 01:16:09,920
Speaker 3: don't watch Mary at first sight, but is at some

1681
01:16:10,040 --> 01:16:12,840
Speaker 3: stage has or is going to be on this show.

1682
01:16:12,880 --> 01:16:15,360
Speaker 3: His name is Mike Wilson and he is himself a

1683
01:16:15,400 --> 01:16:18,920
Speaker 3: real estate agent. He has lost his complete real estate

1684
01:16:18,960 --> 01:16:22,360
Speaker 3: agent's license because he didn't do the Maori cultural course,

1685
01:16:22,640 --> 01:16:26,719
Speaker 3: in particular the course called tech Carcinal the Seed. Now,

1686
01:16:26,840 --> 01:16:29,960
Speaker 3: he didn't have a problem with tech Carcinal. He just

1687
01:16:30,120 --> 01:16:32,960
Speaker 3: was busy. He was busy filming the reality TV show.

1688
01:16:33,040 --> 01:16:35,200
Speaker 3: It took six weeks. He didn't check his emails when

1689
01:16:35,240 --> 01:16:37,040
Speaker 3: he was doing the six weeks, and so as a result,

1690
01:16:37,040 --> 01:16:39,479
Speaker 3: he didn't get the reminders from them saying, don't forget

1691
01:16:39,520 --> 01:16:41,640
Speaker 3: to do the seed. Do the seed. Oh no, you

1692
01:16:41,640 --> 01:16:43,960
Speaker 3: didn't do the seed. Okay, we're canceling. Yeah yeah, yeah,

1693
01:16:44,120 --> 01:16:47,080
Speaker 3: yeah yeah. Real estate license. Now, this is the one

1694
01:16:47,080 --> 01:16:50,200
Speaker 3: and the same course that Janet Dixon is in the

1695
01:16:50,280 --> 01:16:51,920
Speaker 3: High Court over. You know this one. This is the

1696
01:16:51,920 --> 01:16:54,639
Speaker 3: one she refused to do it, and she's completely different

1697
01:16:54,680 --> 01:16:57,800
Speaker 3: to Mike. Mike just forgot or got busy, But Janet

1698
01:16:57,840 --> 01:16:59,200
Speaker 3: didn't want to do it, but she didn't see any

1699
01:16:59,200 --> 01:17:01,080
Speaker 3: point in doing it. So she's taken a judicial review

1700
01:17:01,120 --> 01:17:02,240
Speaker 3: on the thing and it's gone to the High Court

1701
01:17:02,240 --> 01:17:05,439
Speaker 3: and blah blah blah. It's the same course. Now, I

1702
01:17:06,080 --> 01:17:09,360
Speaker 3: forgive me if I got this wrong, but I was

1703
01:17:09,479 --> 01:17:12,920
Speaker 3: under the impression that when Janet went to court over this,

1704
01:17:13,360 --> 01:17:16,320
Speaker 3: that it stopped being compulsory, that they had changed their

1705
01:17:16,400 --> 01:17:20,120
Speaker 3: rules at the real estate whatever body that called nowadays.

1706
01:17:20,439 --> 01:17:22,320
Speaker 3: I thought that changed the rules over this. I thought

1707
01:17:22,360 --> 01:17:24,840
Speaker 3: you didn't have to do this thing anymore, But evidently

1708
01:17:24,920 --> 01:17:28,839
Speaker 3: you do anyway whatever hopefully, I mean, Mike's obviously suffered

1709
01:17:28,840 --> 01:17:31,320
Speaker 3: from being a boy. Boys forget to do things like this.

1710
01:17:31,720 --> 01:17:34,040
Speaker 3: But it's drawn our attention to this again, and it

1711
01:17:34,080 --> 01:17:35,800
Speaker 3: brings me back to a point that I think I

1712
01:17:35,880 --> 01:17:39,559
Speaker 3: was making maybe last week. Is it not remarkable to

1713
01:17:39,640 --> 01:17:44,040
Speaker 3: you how this idea has taken hold, that it is

1714
01:17:44,160 --> 01:17:48,639
Speaker 3: completely and utterly acceptable to force people to do things

1715
01:17:48,680 --> 01:17:52,439
Speaker 3: in one particular area. I mean, because absolutely, Marty T.

1716
01:17:52,600 --> 01:17:55,799
Speaker 3: Kunger is very important to understand. But we could probably

1717
01:17:55,800 --> 01:17:57,960
Speaker 3: mount the same argument for a lot of things, like

1718
01:17:58,280 --> 01:18:02,519
Speaker 3: if we were particularly feeling particular exercised about women's rights today,

1719
01:18:02,960 --> 01:18:05,479
Speaker 3: we could force all of the real estate agents. Why

1720
01:18:05,560 --> 01:18:07,439
Speaker 3: don't we force all of the real estate agents to

1721
01:18:07,479 --> 01:18:12,800
Speaker 3: do a compulsory course on consensual sex because we want

1722
01:18:12,800 --> 01:18:16,320
Speaker 3: them to understand that, or the gender pay gap, or

1723
01:18:16,640 --> 01:18:19,360
Speaker 3: how women feel uncomfortable when you treat them in a

1724
01:18:19,360 --> 01:18:21,479
Speaker 3: certain way in a private residence. I don't know like,

1725
01:18:21,479 --> 01:18:23,480
Speaker 3: why don't we do that, Why don't we make that compulsory?

1726
01:18:23,920 --> 01:18:27,000
Speaker 3: You know, but we've decided this one particular idea. It

1727
01:18:27,080 --> 01:18:30,240
Speaker 3: must be compulsory at Auckland University, must be a compulsory

1728
01:18:30,240 --> 01:18:33,439
Speaker 3: aspect of whether aut staff can can travel, must be

1729
01:18:33,479 --> 01:18:35,599
Speaker 3: compulsory at the real estate agents, you know. Like it's

1730
01:18:35,680 --> 01:18:38,840
Speaker 3: quite remarkable how widespread it is. And you can see

1731
01:18:38,840 --> 01:18:41,559
Speaker 3: how if you are a government, a party in government

1732
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Speaker 3: wanting to turn that around, you've got a big job

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01:18:43,479 --> 01:18:46,720
Speaker 3: in your hands six twenty two crunching.

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Speaker 2: The others and getting the results.

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Speaker 1: It's hither duplicy Ellen with the Business Hour thanks to

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01:18:52,200 --> 01:18:56,320
Speaker 1: my HR the HR solution for busy SMS on News

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01:18:56,360 --> 01:18:57,000
Speaker 1: Talks FB.

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Speaker 3: Twenty four past six. Remember Paul Bloxham is going to

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01:18:59,720 --> 01:19:01,559
Speaker 3: be with us after the news talk us through what's

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Speaker 3: going on with the interest rates at the Reserve Bank

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01:19:03,479 --> 01:19:05,599
Speaker 3: of Australia et cetera, et cetera, and whether they're affected

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Speaker 3: by what the Fed did Right now with us Jamie McKay,

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01:19:08,560 --> 01:19:11,400
Speaker 3: Host to the Country, a Jamie Gooda here that what

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01:19:11,439 --> 01:19:13,160
Speaker 3: are you expecting from Fromterra tomorrow?

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Speaker 30: Well, not much in terms of the final milk price

1746
01:19:16,840 --> 01:19:19,719
Speaker 30: for the twenty three to twenty four season. The experts

1747
01:19:19,880 --> 01:19:23,640
Speaker 30: telling me it'll be a rounding exercise. At this stage,

1748
01:19:24,320 --> 01:19:26,680
Speaker 30: they're currently sitting at a midpoint of seven eighty. There

1749
01:19:26,720 --> 01:19:29,200
Speaker 30: might be a wee bit of upside. I'd be surprised

1750
01:19:29,200 --> 01:19:32,160
Speaker 30: if there was any downside. I think tomorrow's number that

1751
01:19:32,280 --> 01:19:34,760
Speaker 30: might be of interest is the dividend, though amounts the

1752
01:19:34,760 --> 01:19:39,120
Speaker 30: final dividend for the twenty three twenty four financial year,

1753
01:19:39,439 --> 01:19:42,240
Speaker 30: remembering in twenty two to twenty three it was fifty cents,

1754
01:19:42,280 --> 01:19:44,479
Speaker 30: but you don't have to go that far back in time.

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01:19:44,920 --> 01:19:48,640
Speaker 30: In fact, to twenty eighteen nineteen it was nothing, not

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01:19:48,720 --> 01:19:52,240
Speaker 30: a sausage, nada, and then in twenty nineteen twenty it

1757
01:19:52,280 --> 01:19:55,200
Speaker 30: was only five cents. So I'm assuming I'm going to

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01:19:55,240 --> 01:19:58,760
Speaker 30: make the assumption, perhaps rather foolishly, that that dividend's going

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01:19:58,760 --> 01:20:02,040
Speaker 30: to be in excess of She's fifty cents. Miles will

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01:20:02,040 --> 01:20:05,040
Speaker 30: probably prove me wrong. At about eight thirty tomorrow morning,

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Speaker 30: we'll have that number confirmed. Wee bit of upside on

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01:20:08,520 --> 01:20:11,040
Speaker 30: seven eighty, as far as I'm aware. Once again, Miles

1763
01:20:11,040 --> 01:20:13,080
Speaker 30: will probably make a fall to me. I'm not sure

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Speaker 30: they update the current season forecast, which is currently sitting

1765
01:20:17,800 --> 01:20:20,960
Speaker 30: at eight dollars fifty midpoint. Mind you, the futures markets

1766
01:20:20,960 --> 01:20:22,040
Speaker 30: are doing a bit better than that.

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Speaker 3: Oh, Jamie, sounds like it's a bit tough in south

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01:20:24,720 --> 01:20:26,599
Speaker 3: and for the farmers at the moment with all the rainfall.

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Speaker 30: Yeah, well you talk about diversification and farming, Heather. I've

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01:20:30,439 --> 01:20:32,040
Speaker 30: still got a lot of mates, as you know, you

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01:20:32,160 --> 01:20:35,320
Speaker 30: know some of them down in Southland who are sheep farmers,

1772
01:20:35,320 --> 01:20:38,599
Speaker 30: So I think they're going to diversify into growing rice.

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01:20:38,800 --> 01:20:41,680
Speaker 30: It's literally like a rice paddy down there. I was

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01:20:41,720 --> 01:20:44,000
Speaker 30: talking to an old timer today and I said, is

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Speaker 30: it worse than the lambing of twenty ten or eleven

1776
01:20:47,400 --> 01:20:51,000
Speaker 30: when the roof on Stadium Southland fell collapsed because of

1777
01:20:51,040 --> 01:20:52,880
Speaker 30: all the snow lying on it? Or is it worse

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01:20:52,880 --> 01:20:55,240
Speaker 30: than the lambing of eighty six when we're not only

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01:20:55,360 --> 01:20:57,600
Speaker 30: had rained for three weeks. We had Roger Douglas and

1780
01:20:57,640 --> 01:20:59,920
Speaker 30: he said that was almost as bad as the lambing

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Speaker 30: seventy two. That's how far back some of them are coming. Look,

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Speaker 30: it's been a bloody disaster. You've got no grass, poor

1783
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Speaker 30: utilization of the grass that's growing. Eye it all gets

1784
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Speaker 30: stamped and trampled into the mud and you've got low

1785
01:21:15,040 --> 01:21:20,479
Speaker 30: soil temperatures, not much sunshine, horizontal hail down there today.

1786
01:21:20,880 --> 01:21:22,960
Speaker 30: So look, they're in a bit of a fix. But

1787
01:21:23,040 --> 01:21:24,479
Speaker 30: you can go up the road a bit to North

1788
01:21:24,560 --> 01:21:27,839
Speaker 30: Canterbury and they've got completely the opposite problem, and probably

1789
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Speaker 30: a worse one. Those guys can't buy a break in

1790
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Speaker 30: terms of soil moisture, so they're headed for a stinking drought.

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Speaker 30: It would be fair to say that Southland's a wee

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Speaker 30: way from a trout at the moment.

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Speaker 3: Jamie, good to talk to you. Thank you for that.

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Speaker 3: Appreciated As Jammy mackay hosts of the Country. Hey listen.

1795
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Speaker 3: Last week during the show, we broadcast audio evidence from

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Speaker 3: the trial of Philip Pulkinghorn, and we didn't give any

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01:21:49,360 --> 01:21:51,759
Speaker 3: of our listeners a warning before we played that audio.

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01:21:51,800 --> 01:21:54,280
Speaker 3: Now we acknowledge that the content could have been actually

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01:21:54,280 --> 01:21:56,479
Speaker 3: pretty distressing for members of our audience, So we would

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Speaker 3: like to apologize for that. Twenty seven past six now, now,

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01:22:00,360 --> 01:22:01,559
Speaker 3: I don't know if you wanted it. Do you want

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01:22:01,560 --> 01:22:03,880
Speaker 3: to know this? Green Peace are up to it again,

1803
01:22:03,920 --> 01:22:07,439
Speaker 3: aren't they. Yeah, they are just talking yesterday about the

1804
01:22:07,479 --> 01:22:10,160
Speaker 3: guys from Extinction Rebellion causing trouble with the trains. That

1805
01:22:10,280 --> 01:22:11,840
Speaker 3: was historic, but they're not going to get in much

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01:22:11,840 --> 01:22:14,160
Speaker 3: trouble by the looks of things today. Must have given

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01:22:14,200 --> 01:22:16,599
Speaker 3: them longtime listeners green Peace, I don't know if you know.

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01:22:16,960 --> 01:22:18,640
Speaker 3: Must have given them an idea. Must have been like

1809
01:22:18,840 --> 01:22:22,120
Speaker 3: it's been a while between them between protests, so today

1810
01:22:22,160 --> 01:22:26,479
Speaker 3: they decided to lock themselves inside the Stratira HQ. Now

1811
01:22:26,520 --> 01:22:29,360
Speaker 3: Stratira are a you probably don't know who they are

1812
01:22:30,280 --> 01:22:32,040
Speaker 3: because most of us just get on with our lives.

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Speaker 3: But oh no, not green Peace. Stratira has been winding

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Speaker 3: them up. Stratira are like the lobby body for the

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01:22:37,400 --> 01:22:40,280
Speaker 3: representative body for the mining industry. So three green Peace

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01:22:40,400 --> 01:22:42,880
Speaker 3: dudes went and there locked themselves inside. Must have been

1817
01:22:42,880 --> 01:22:45,519
Speaker 3: like hell for being in there with all the pictures

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01:22:45,560 --> 01:22:47,920
Speaker 3: of all the mining on the walls and stuff. Two

1819
01:22:47,960 --> 01:22:49,720
Speaker 3: more climbed onto an awning at the front of the

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01:22:49,720 --> 01:22:52,200
Speaker 3: building and they held up a big nosey bed mining banner.

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01:22:52,439 --> 01:22:54,200
Speaker 3: A cops arrived, but they were not going anywhere, and

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01:22:54,280 --> 01:22:56,160
Speaker 3: they decided that wasn't enough, So then they climbed a

1823
01:22:56,200 --> 01:22:58,920
Speaker 3: giant crane like thing down at the train station in

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Speaker 3: Wellington as well. I hope stay safe up there, because

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01:23:01,640 --> 01:23:04,879
Speaker 3: it's it's high headline's next.

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Speaker 2: Two whether it's macro micro or just playing.

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Speaker 1: Economics, it's all on the Business Hour with Heather Duplicy

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01:23:16,160 --> 01:23:20,160
Speaker 1: Allen and my HR. The HR solution for busy SMEs

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01:23:20,439 --> 01:23:27,000
Speaker 1: us dogs bad.

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Speaker 3: It's going to be at us in ten minutes time. Okay,

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01:23:29,880 --> 01:23:31,080
Speaker 3: So this is what I was going to tell you

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01:23:31,120 --> 01:23:35,120
Speaker 3: about the race for Andrew Costa's job. So apparently it's

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01:23:35,160 --> 01:23:38,680
Speaker 3: between Deputy Commissioner give A mcskimming and Richard Chambers, the

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01:23:38,680 --> 01:23:42,599
Speaker 3: Assistant Commissioner. Now both of them actually graduated Police College

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01:23:42,600 --> 01:23:44,519
Speaker 3: in the same year, nineteen ninety six, so if they've

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01:23:44,520 --> 01:23:46,320
Speaker 3: both been but both of them must have done all

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01:23:46,400 --> 01:23:50,000
Speaker 3: up around about what's that twenty seven twenty eight years

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01:23:50,000 --> 01:23:52,920
Speaker 3: and the cops, that's not bad A MC skimming give

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01:23:52,920 --> 01:23:55,080
Speaker 3: the mc skimming did ten years in front run roles

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01:23:55,120 --> 01:23:58,400
Speaker 3: in Auckland, Southland West Coast, then went to Wellington, took

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Speaker 3: some leadership positions to National Headquarters Police National Headquarters in

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01:24:02,160 --> 01:24:04,760
Speaker 3: twenty ten, rose through the ranks there last year became

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01:24:04,800 --> 01:24:08,800
Speaker 3: Deputy Commissioner. Chambers also worked on the front line in

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01:24:08,800 --> 01:24:12,240
Speaker 3: Auckland and then became a detective and then moved to Wellington,

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01:24:12,320 --> 01:24:14,720
Speaker 3: then became the area commander for Lower Hut in two

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Speaker 3: thousand and seven, then the district commander for Tasman and

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01:24:17,040 --> 01:24:19,880
Speaker 3: then Auckland and then went back to Wellington as an

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Speaker 3: assistant commissioner. In twenty sixteen when he missed out on

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01:24:24,000 --> 01:24:27,200
Speaker 3: the job to Andrew Costa or maybe some other job.

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01:24:27,240 --> 01:24:29,880
Speaker 3: There was some promotion he didn't get. He decided to

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01:24:29,960 --> 01:24:33,599
Speaker 3: go on secondment earlier this year and accepted as seeing

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01:24:33,640 --> 01:24:36,880
Speaker 3: your role into poll he said at the time he

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01:24:36,920 --> 01:24:38,759
Speaker 3: was prepared to come back for a role in New Zealand,

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01:24:38,800 --> 01:24:40,360
Speaker 3: like he was intending to come back at some stage,

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01:24:40,640 --> 01:24:43,400
Speaker 3: might be coming back sooner than expected. Between the two

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01:24:43,439 --> 01:24:46,120
Speaker 3: of them. The thing that puts Richard Chambers slightly ahead

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01:24:46,160 --> 01:24:48,880
Speaker 3: probably of JEVN mcskimming. I'd imagine if you're looking for

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01:24:48,920 --> 01:24:51,559
Speaker 3: frontline experience is simply his frontline experience. He's just had

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01:24:51,600 --> 01:24:54,360
Speaker 3: more time being an actual cop. So anyway it'll be

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Speaker 3: Really that seems to me like they've got some decent

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01:24:56,760 --> 01:24:59,080
Speaker 3: candidates there to choose from. If even if it's just

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01:24:59,080 --> 01:25:02,320
Speaker 3: those two two away from seven Kell du forer c Allen,

1863
01:25:02,479 --> 01:25:04,840
Speaker 3: so the reserve Bank in Australia held its official cash

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01:25:04,920 --> 01:25:07,280
Speaker 3: rate at four point three five percent for the seventh

1865
01:25:07,320 --> 01:25:10,240
Speaker 3: time today in a row of course if the FED sorry,

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01:25:10,280 --> 01:25:11,920
Speaker 3: and the Reserve Bank here in New Zealand have both

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Speaker 3: dropped their rates in recent times, but the RBA said

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01:25:14,640 --> 01:25:17,080
Speaker 3: it will be sometime yet before inflation is sustainably in

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Speaker 3: the target range. Paul Bloxham is agspec's chief economist. Hey,

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Speaker 3: Paul good, Paul, listen, tell me if I'm wrong, But

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01:25:23,520 --> 01:25:26,439
Speaker 3: I thought that you guys with headline and inflation are

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01:25:26,479 --> 01:25:29,800
Speaker 3: expected to very shortly actually be within the margin, aren't you.

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Speaker 22: Headline inflation is going to fall, and probably tomorrow when

1874
01:25:34,720 --> 01:25:37,360
Speaker 22: we get the CPI indicator this is not the CPI

1875
01:25:37,479 --> 01:25:40,439
Speaker 22: that it's our new timely monthly version. It's going to

1876
01:25:40,439 --> 01:25:43,760
Speaker 22: show headline inflation falling quite strongly actually, But this is

1877
01:25:43,800 --> 01:25:46,600
Speaker 22: not the key. The key is that headline inflation is

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01:25:46,760 --> 01:25:49,760
Speaker 22: likely to come down simply because the government has given

1879
01:25:49,880 --> 01:25:53,760
Speaker 22: energy subsidies, they've lowered people's electricity bills, and so that

1880
01:25:53,800 --> 01:25:57,559
Speaker 22: doesn't really constitute a sustainable fall and inflation. That's a

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01:25:57,560 --> 01:26:00,599
Speaker 22: policy measure. And so the RBA has made it absently clear,

1882
01:26:00,640 --> 01:26:02,759
Speaker 22: and today they were very very clear in their statement

1883
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Speaker 22: that they are going to focus on the underlying measures

1884
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Speaker 22: of inflation, not the headline rate of inflation, because that's

1885
01:26:07,960 --> 01:26:11,840
Speaker 22: being affected by these temporary policy changes, and so it'll

1886
01:26:11,840 --> 01:26:14,000
Speaker 22: be key to watch out for what the underlying measures do.

1887
01:26:14,320 --> 01:26:16,920
Speaker 22: But our take is the underlying measures that the trimmed mean,

1888
01:26:17,000 --> 01:26:19,120
Speaker 22: for example, is still are still going to be well

1889
01:26:19,160 --> 01:26:21,719
Speaker 22: above where the RBA is comfortable, well above the RBA's

1890
01:26:21,760 --> 01:26:24,479
Speaker 22: target band. And we saw that today in the tone

1891
01:26:24,479 --> 01:26:27,479
Speaker 22: of what they delivered, they remained on hold. They talked

1892
01:26:27,479 --> 01:26:29,800
Speaker 22: about the idea that they've not ruled anything in or

1893
01:26:29,840 --> 01:26:32,920
Speaker 22: anything out, and they noted that near term rate cuts

1894
01:26:32,920 --> 01:26:34,679
Speaker 22: are really not on the cards at the moment.

1895
01:26:34,840 --> 01:26:37,120
Speaker 3: Does it get awkward for Michelle Bollock to have the

1896
01:26:37,160 --> 01:26:40,240
Speaker 3: FED cutting by fifty, the Reserve Bank cutting maybe even

1897
01:26:40,320 --> 01:26:42,600
Speaker 3: by fifty at some stage at herders sitting.

1898
01:26:42,320 --> 01:26:46,439
Speaker 22: There, It certainly raises the bar. It raises the bar

1899
01:26:46,560 --> 01:26:48,320
Speaker 22: for them to think about where they're at and say

1900
01:26:48,320 --> 01:26:50,479
Speaker 22: to themselves, why are we different? You know, why is

1901
01:26:50,520 --> 01:26:53,920
Speaker 22: Australia in a different spot? And the argument we've been

1902
01:26:53,920 --> 01:26:56,040
Speaker 22: putting forward for a while is Australia is in a

1903
01:26:56,080 --> 01:26:58,439
Speaker 22: different spot We're in a different spot for a number

1904
01:26:58,479 --> 01:27:01,000
Speaker 22: of reasons. One of them is that the RBA didn't

1905
01:27:01,000 --> 01:27:03,360
Speaker 22: lift interest rates as much as everyone else. I've talked

1906
01:27:03,400 --> 01:27:05,320
Speaker 22: about this all year along with you. I know, you know,

1907
01:27:05,360 --> 01:27:07,920
Speaker 22: they did four hundred and twenty five basis points of hiking,

1908
01:27:08,160 --> 01:27:10,880
Speaker 22: whereas the Fed did five twenty five. The RBNS they

1909
01:27:10,880 --> 01:27:13,280
Speaker 22: did five twenty five, just did less, They did less tightening,

1910
01:27:13,400 --> 01:27:16,479
Speaker 22: and so one of the consequences is they haven't had quite.

1911
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Speaker 9: As much disinflation.

1912
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Speaker 22: And then the other really big factor is that the

1913
01:27:20,080 --> 01:27:23,320
Speaker 22: supply side productivity has been really quite quite quite weak,

1914
01:27:23,479 --> 01:27:25,960
Speaker 22: quite weak in Australia, and so we're not getting as

1915
01:27:26,000 --> 01:27:28,760
Speaker 22: much disinflation. We do look different to everyone else, but

1916
01:27:28,800 --> 01:27:31,439
Speaker 22: they're going to with other central banks now cutting rates

1917
01:27:31,479 --> 01:27:33,519
Speaker 22: across the world, it's going to be that bar is

1918
01:27:33,600 --> 01:27:36,559
Speaker 22: higher for them to convince themselves continually that we are different.

1919
01:27:36,880 --> 01:27:38,680
Speaker 22: We don't think rate cuts are coming through for a

1920
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Speaker 22: while though. We think rate cuts aren't coming into a

1921
01:27:40,520 --> 01:27:42,320
Speaker 22: well into twenty twenty five in Australia.

1922
01:27:42,800 --> 01:27:44,800
Speaker 3: What do you think about the feed having cut by

1923
01:27:44,840 --> 01:27:46,720
Speaker 3: fifty basis points and the impact it's going to have

1924
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Speaker 3: on the Reserve Bank in New Zealand at the next decision.

1925
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Speaker 22: Well, I think the first thing to take from it

1926
01:27:51,720 --> 01:27:54,439
Speaker 22: is that, actually, this is what a soft landing looks like.

1927
01:27:54,800 --> 01:27:56,559
Speaker 22: You know, the reason why the Fed's been able to

1928
01:27:56,560 --> 01:27:59,519
Speaker 22: cut this because inflation's coming down quite quickly and they

1929
01:27:59,520 --> 01:28:02,240
Speaker 22: feel that can deliver more support, and they've done that

1930
01:28:02,320 --> 01:28:04,519
Speaker 22: while the economy is actually the US economy is still

1931
01:28:04,520 --> 01:28:07,080
Speaker 22: got positive momentum, growth is still holding up pretty well.

1932
01:28:07,320 --> 01:28:09,280
Speaker 22: You want to be able to cut interest rates before

1933
01:28:09,360 --> 01:28:12,000
Speaker 22: growth slows down to prevent it from slowing down by

1934
01:28:12,080 --> 01:28:14,559
Speaker 22: very much. This is, again, what a soft landing looks like.

1935
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Speaker 22: I don't think it's a bad story. I think it's

1936
01:28:16,640 --> 01:28:18,479
Speaker 22: a good story. I don't think it has that much

1937
01:28:18,520 --> 01:28:21,639
Speaker 22: bearing on the RBNZA. I think the RBNZ, like the RBA,

1938
01:28:21,800 --> 01:28:24,040
Speaker 22: gets to run its own race and said it's policy

1939
01:28:24,080 --> 01:28:27,280
Speaker 22: based on domestic conditions. And I think the RBNZED will

1940
01:28:27,280 --> 01:28:30,080
Speaker 22: cut rates further twenty five in the next meeting, twenty

1941
01:28:30,080 --> 01:28:32,320
Speaker 22: five at the one after. We think that the RBNZ

1942
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Speaker 22: has broad inflation down enough to be able to continue

1943
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Speaker 22: to ease its policy setting a lot like the FED,

1944
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Speaker 22: but not necessarily because of the FED.

1945
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Speaker 3: Yeah, Paul, Hey, thank you. As always really appreciate your take.

1946
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Speaker 3: That's Paul Bloxham, HSBC's chief economist. Listen on this business

1947
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Speaker 3: with Winston Peters and the vote on the UN resolution

1948
01:28:49,360 --> 01:28:55,040
Speaker 3: read the settlers in various parts of it basically occupy

1949
01:28:55,080 --> 01:28:57,040
Speaker 3: pealasin the in territory. I think you can broadly say.

1950
01:28:57,479 --> 01:28:59,960
Speaker 3: David Seymour has now said that he's asked Winston Peter's

1951
01:29:00,080 --> 01:29:02,479
Speaker 3: in the future to talk to acts before they make

1952
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Speaker 3: any decisions like like voting on that. He says, we

1953
01:29:06,080 --> 01:29:08,320
Speaker 3: do support the government's position, we're compelled to do that.

1954
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Speaker 3: And I've also just had a quiet chat. It's been

1955
01:29:11,160 --> 01:29:13,439
Speaker 3: a pretty controversial decision for a lot of people. It's

1956
01:29:13,479 --> 01:29:16,479
Speaker 3: not something I've participated in. I've talked to Winston Peters.

1957
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Speaker 3: We had a friendly chat. I say, I said, you know, look,

1958
01:29:19,439 --> 01:29:21,160
Speaker 3: it would be good if we could chat about this

1959
01:29:21,280 --> 01:29:24,840
Speaker 3: war in future. So you can see trying to sort

1960
01:29:24,840 --> 01:29:27,120
Speaker 3: of say, not altogether happy with the way it's been handled,

1961
01:29:27,160 --> 01:29:30,719
Speaker 3: but jeez, David seem was treading carefully with Winston Peter's ego.

1962
01:29:30,800 --> 01:29:32,280
Speaker 3: They're a eighteen away from seven.

1963
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Speaker 2: Everything from SMEs to the big corporates.

1964
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Speaker 1: The Business Hour with Heather Dupliclis and my HR the

1965
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Speaker 1: HR solution for busy SMEs on news TALKSB.

1966
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Speaker 3: It's quarter two and with us now as Endebrady are

1967
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Speaker 3: UK correspondent Evening Ender.

1968
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Speaker 9: Hello, have they love it? To speak to you?

1969
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Speaker 12: Good?

1970
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Speaker 3: To talk to you always?

1971
01:29:50,800 --> 01:29:50,880
Speaker 9: Is?

1972
01:29:50,880 --> 01:29:53,719
Speaker 3: What do you make of Angela Rainer getting these vanity

1973
01:29:53,720 --> 01:29:54,679
Speaker 3: photographs taken?

1974
01:29:55,960 --> 01:29:59,120
Speaker 31: Well, Look, this is a spillover from the Conservative government

1975
01:29:59,160 --> 01:30:03,120
Speaker 31: because they had professional photographers. Boris Johnson had his own

1976
01:30:03,160 --> 01:30:07,719
Speaker 31: professional photographer, and it is it's a control mechanism basically

1977
01:30:07,840 --> 01:30:10,080
Speaker 31: to make sure that the pictures that end up in

1978
01:30:10,080 --> 01:30:13,479
Speaker 31: the papers and nobody is unhappy with them. And look,

1979
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Speaker 31: whatever anyone thinks in public life of photographers who work

1980
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Speaker 31: for newspapers.

1981
01:30:18,800 --> 01:30:22,479
Speaker 9: They're there to document history. They are there to document

1982
01:30:22,560 --> 01:30:26,360
Speaker 9: the news and archive life as they see it, not

1983
01:30:26,479 --> 01:30:29,200
Speaker 9: how you want to be seen. And we've we've had some.

1984
01:30:29,240 --> 01:30:31,960
Speaker 31: Kind of stupid pictures over the years of politicians in

1985
01:30:32,000 --> 01:30:34,599
Speaker 31: public doing stupid things and they get on the front

1986
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Speaker 31: pages and the narrative kind of sticks. I mean, we

1987
01:30:36,760 --> 01:30:39,679
Speaker 31: had a guy, a labor politician, he was the labor leader,

1988
01:30:39,840 --> 01:30:42,760
Speaker 31: Ed Milliband, he never became Prime Minister, and there was

1989
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Speaker 31: a picture of him eating a bacon sandwich one day

1990
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Speaker 31: that a photographer took and it was he just made

1991
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Speaker 31: a mess of eating a sandwich, And that basically was

1992
01:30:51,080 --> 01:30:53,360
Speaker 31: the narrative that you wouldn't let this guy run the country.

1993
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Speaker 9: You can't even eat a sandwich. So I think what Browner.

1994
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Speaker 31: Is doing basically is a spillover from everything that went

1995
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Speaker 31: on in Downing Street on theer Boris Johnson, that taxpayer

1996
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Speaker 31: money was put aside for professional photographers.

1997
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Speaker 9: Johnson had a huge, huge ego, and you know, the

1998
01:31:09,680 --> 01:31:11,840
Speaker 9: money's there and she's just using it, same as the

1999
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Speaker 9: Tories did.

2000
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Speaker 3: What about her drinking whiskey through a straw though, that's

2001
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Speaker 3: gonna be some sort of a crime.

2002
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Speaker 9: Yes, and she was.

2003
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Speaker 31: Look, Look, she gets a lot of attention in the

2004
01:31:22,800 --> 01:31:26,200
Speaker 31: media because an awful lot of people she's quite divisive. Look,

2005
01:31:26,280 --> 01:31:29,639
Speaker 31: she's a working class girl from a working class background

2006
01:31:29,680 --> 01:31:32,519
Speaker 31: and she's deputy Prime minister. An awful lot of people

2007
01:31:32,560 --> 01:31:35,360
Speaker 31: here on the right hate her for that very reason.

2008
01:31:35,600 --> 01:31:37,840
Speaker 31: So whatever she wears tomorrow, she goes out and wears

2009
01:31:37,840 --> 01:31:40,439
Speaker 31: a ten dollars blouse tomorrow, they will say, oh my god,

2010
01:31:40,560 --> 01:31:42,840
Speaker 31: she's deputy prime minister. Wouldn't she dress up, make an

2011
01:31:42,840 --> 01:31:45,320
Speaker 31: effort and then if she's seen in the Designer Frock

2012
01:31:45,439 --> 01:31:47,840
Speaker 31: next week, it'll be oh my god, who's paying for this?

2013
01:31:48,120 --> 01:31:48,760
Speaker 9: She can't win.

2014
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Speaker 3: It was not gonna win if she's drinking whiskey out

2015
01:31:51,400 --> 01:31:53,280
Speaker 3: of a straw. But maybe it's a thing that's going

2016
01:31:53,360 --> 01:31:54,519
Speaker 3: to catch on. Hey, listen it.

2017
01:31:54,520 --> 01:31:54,880
Speaker 5: How is it?

2018
01:31:54,960 --> 01:31:57,719
Speaker 3: Five and a half percent pay rise for nurses not enough?

2019
01:31:59,160 --> 01:32:00,800
Speaker 9: They say that they deserve more.

2020
01:32:00,880 --> 01:32:03,040
Speaker 31: And the inflation last year, at the start of last

2021
01:32:03,120 --> 01:32:05,760
Speaker 31: year was running at eleven percent. And I think what's

2022
01:32:05,760 --> 01:32:09,120
Speaker 31: happened is they've seen the junior doctors get thirty five

2023
01:32:09,240 --> 01:32:12,320
Speaker 31: percent over the next couple of years. They've seen train

2024
01:32:12,439 --> 01:32:16,120
Speaker 31: drivers get twenty two percent, and I think the nurses

2025
01:32:16,160 --> 01:32:17,760
Speaker 31: have just looked around and thought, do you know what?

2026
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Speaker 9: You all were happy enough to stand every.

2027
01:32:20,160 --> 01:32:23,360
Speaker 31: Thursday evening during COVID on your doorsteps and bang pots

2028
01:32:23,360 --> 01:32:25,800
Speaker 31: and pans and clap for us. Well, you know the

2029
01:32:25,840 --> 01:32:29,600
Speaker 31: time for clapping is over. They were the absolute heroines

2030
01:32:29,640 --> 01:32:31,320
Speaker 31: and heroes of the pandemic.

2031
01:32:31,600 --> 01:32:33,760
Speaker 9: My mother was a nurse in Ireland. She was a

2032
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Speaker 9: psychiatric nurse.

2033
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Speaker 31: Nurses do a bloody, bloody good job and they don't

2034
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Speaker 31: get paid anywhere near what they should.

2035
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Speaker 9: And I think a lot of nurses here are a

2036
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Speaker 9: breaking point.

2037
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Speaker 31: And I think the big winners out of this will

2038
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Speaker 31: be the health services of New Zealand, Australia, Canada, United

2039
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Speaker 31: States do buy where people want to go and actually are.

2040
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Speaker 9: In a living and have an awful lot less stressed.

2041
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I believe that now Kiostama speech right, He's going

2042
01:32:58,000 --> 01:32:59,920
Speaker 3: to see in his vision for Britain today at the

2043
01:33:00,320 --> 01:33:03,080
Speaker 3: party conference. Are you expecting it to be a real

2044
01:33:03,120 --> 01:33:04,080
Speaker 3: tub thump or.

2045
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Speaker 9: What he doesn't really do? Rasmetass. He's not Tony Blair.

2046
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Speaker 31: I mean everyone's expecting Blair and you know, dream music

2047
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Speaker 31: in the background and things can only get better.

2048
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Speaker 9: He's a pragmatist. But I think the problem.

2049
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Speaker 31: Starmer has now is he spent the last eight weeks

2050
01:33:20,200 --> 01:33:22,719
Speaker 31: telling everyone how bad it is. And it is bad

2051
01:33:22,760 --> 01:33:26,240
Speaker 31: here seven million people on the waiting list for hospital treatment,

2052
01:33:26,400 --> 01:33:30,600
Speaker 31: seven million people waiting for hospital treatment in Britain. A

2053
01:33:30,680 --> 01:33:35,320
Speaker 31: GDP debt is now one hundred percent of GDP. Absolutely

2054
01:33:35,360 --> 01:33:38,320
Speaker 31: everything in this country is broken. And I think, you know.

2055
01:33:38,479 --> 01:33:41,200
Speaker 9: As much as people hated the last lot, they.

2056
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Speaker 31: Need to hear that he has got some solutions and

2057
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Speaker 31: Hopefully today's the day where he just spells out that

2058
01:33:47,479 --> 01:33:50,360
Speaker 31: you know there are better days coming, but just bear

2059
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Speaker 31: with me. We need ideas, not word salad. I mean

2060
01:33:53,680 --> 01:33:57,120
Speaker 31: we've had fourteen years of word salad under the Conservatives

2061
01:33:57,160 --> 01:34:00,519
Speaker 31: and it's got Britain absolutely nowhere. So all eyes on

2062
01:34:00,560 --> 01:34:02,760
Speaker 31: Starmer today. I think the big problem he has is

2063
01:34:02,800 --> 01:34:05,479
Speaker 31: there's no money. There's simply no money left in the pot.

2064
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it would be tough to have to govern like that.

2065
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Speaker 3: And it's always good to talk to you. I appreciate it.

2066
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Speaker 3: We'll talk to you in a couple of days. In the Brady,

2067
01:34:11,920 --> 01:34:14,559
Speaker 3: a UK correspondent. Look, I don't know if you've ever

2068
01:34:14,640 --> 01:34:16,920
Speaker 3: dreamed of owning a gang pad, but maybe you need to,

2069
01:34:16,960 --> 01:34:20,439
Speaker 3: because boy, have I got an opportunity for you. In fact,

2070
01:34:20,479 --> 01:34:22,559
Speaker 3: it's probably gone under the Ham or already I think

2071
01:34:22,560 --> 01:34:26,040
Speaker 3: it was going. Laura, wasn't your your dream house? In

2072
01:34:26,080 --> 01:34:28,960
Speaker 3: Wigram the Headhunter's HQ under the Hammer at half past six,

2073
01:34:29,840 --> 01:34:31,479
Speaker 3: it was do you know how much it's sold for?

2074
01:34:31,560 --> 01:34:33,360
Speaker 3: You got to look for the This is good research

2075
01:34:33,400 --> 01:34:35,360
Speaker 3: for us. We need this. Laura is going to look

2076
01:34:35,400 --> 01:34:36,800
Speaker 3: up how much it's sold for if it to sell

2077
01:34:36,840 --> 01:34:39,479
Speaker 3: at all, it's it's got a lot going for it. It's

2078
01:34:39,360 --> 01:34:41,519
Speaker 3: a it's a desirable corner site that this cop has

2079
01:34:41,520 --> 01:34:43,760
Speaker 3: obviously took it off the headhunters or something like that,

2080
01:34:44,240 --> 01:34:49,080
Speaker 3: and anyway, desirable corner site, fantastic development opportunity, nine hundred

2081
01:34:49,160 --> 01:34:52,920
Speaker 3: square meters of residential suburban land in two titles. A

2082
01:34:53,000 --> 01:34:55,080
Speaker 3: bit of a mess. It's a do or upper. I

2083
01:34:55,120 --> 01:34:57,000
Speaker 3: think we'd call it a do or upper. It's a

2084
01:34:57,000 --> 01:35:02,600
Speaker 3: small brown wooded bungalow, very high fence, which, you know,

2085
01:35:02,680 --> 01:35:06,320
Speaker 3: depending on how you feel about your neighbors or you know,

2086
01:35:07,200 --> 01:35:09,960
Speaker 3: the police, it could be quite handy for you to

2087
01:35:09,960 --> 01:35:13,320
Speaker 3: have that high fence. Unfortunately, what's behind the high fence

2088
01:35:13,400 --> 01:35:16,080
Speaker 3: is just a mess. It's just like brown broken furniture,

2089
01:35:16,120 --> 01:35:20,040
Speaker 3: appliances littering the ground. A washing line, old school washing

2090
01:35:20,080 --> 01:35:23,960
Speaker 3: line still standing there. So that's all there. They did

2091
01:35:24,000 --> 01:35:26,400
Speaker 3: do a little bit of alterations. They tried to jazz

2092
01:35:26,479 --> 01:35:28,439
Speaker 3: up the place. Chucked in a new bathroom, chucked in

2093
01:35:28,439 --> 01:35:32,880
Speaker 3: a new kitchen, well equipped motorbike repair shop because that's

2094
01:35:32,920 --> 01:35:35,680
Speaker 3: what we all need. And a bar and lounge and

2095
01:35:35,720 --> 01:35:38,800
Speaker 3: some more accommodation, probably a like bunk style, so you could,

2096
01:35:38,880 --> 01:35:41,559
Speaker 3: you know, have all of your friends over at exactly

2097
01:35:41,680 --> 01:35:45,160
Speaker 3: the same time. Lots of parking obviously, so you can

2098
01:35:45,200 --> 01:35:47,320
Speaker 3: have more of your friends as well as nothing the

2099
01:35:47,320 --> 01:35:51,080
Speaker 3: headhunters love more than a good party. It last sold

2100
01:35:51,240 --> 01:35:53,920
Speaker 3: in July twenty eleven for two hundred and fifty nine

2101
01:35:53,920 --> 01:35:57,479
Speaker 3: thousand dollars, and the most recent valuation two years ago

2102
01:35:57,680 --> 01:36:01,479
Speaker 3: was around about five hundred thousand, so that's probably around

2103
01:36:01,479 --> 01:36:03,559
Speaker 3: about where you're looking for. Obviously, brought down slightly by

2104
01:36:03,600 --> 01:36:04,880
Speaker 3: all of the tidy up that you're going to have

2105
01:36:04,920 --> 01:36:06,880
Speaker 3: to do in the state of disrepair and stuff. But man,

2106
01:36:06,920 --> 01:36:09,040
Speaker 3: I tell you what, if you look at a first

2107
01:36:09,040 --> 01:36:11,439
Speaker 3: home buyer, what are you complaining about? There you go

2108
01:36:11,520 --> 01:36:16,799
Speaker 3: Workham property. May have a few problems with previous owners

2109
01:36:18,120 --> 01:36:20,639
Speaker 3: who may get to know you a little bit by

2110
01:36:20,640 --> 01:36:23,000
Speaker 3: turning up uninvited, but hey, look there you go entry

2111
01:36:23,080 --> 01:36:24,439
Speaker 3: level eight away from seven.

2112
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Speaker 1: Whether it's macro, MicroB or just plain economics. It's all

2113
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Speaker 1: on The Business Hour with Heather Duplicy, Allen and my HR,

2114
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Speaker 1: the HR platform for SME newsed talksp.

2115
01:36:38,560 --> 01:36:43,120
Speaker 3: Listen. I've avoided talking about this all the way through

2116
01:36:43,160 --> 01:36:45,240
Speaker 3: the show, but I feel like I just want to.

2117
01:36:45,479 --> 01:36:47,840
Speaker 3: I just want to say this really quickly, because when

2118
01:36:47,920 --> 01:36:51,040
Speaker 3: Richard Hills was in earlier Auckland counselor, he also said

2119
01:36:51,040 --> 01:36:52,840
Speaker 3: the same thing to me, and so it made me

2120
01:36:52,880 --> 01:36:54,599
Speaker 3: feel like I wasn't just going to be a curmudgeon

2121
01:36:54,640 --> 01:36:56,600
Speaker 3: if I if I said this. So I'm just going

2122
01:36:56,680 --> 01:36:58,160
Speaker 3: to say this. Oh, by the way, the household for

2123
01:36:58,160 --> 01:37:01,320
Speaker 3: three hundred and seventy eight thousand dollars bargain valued at

2124
01:37:01,320 --> 01:37:05,040
Speaker 3: five hundred sold for three seventy a's comes with extra

2125
01:37:05,120 --> 01:37:11,439
Speaker 3: appliances lying outside and unconsented alterations and a washing line.

2126
01:37:11,560 --> 01:37:13,240
Speaker 3: That's a bargain. I don't know. They better have been

2127
01:37:13,280 --> 01:37:14,920
Speaker 3: a first home by it who got in there, otherwise

2128
01:37:14,920 --> 01:37:18,439
Speaker 3: I'd be like, yeah, you are ungrateful, stop complaining anyway.

2129
01:37:18,479 --> 01:37:20,519
Speaker 3: So this is what I want to say. There is

2130
01:37:20,560 --> 01:37:23,719
Speaker 3: a scandal in Auckland today because you remember the council

2131
01:37:23,720 --> 01:37:26,479
Speaker 3: took away all of the city's bins. And when they

2132
01:37:26,520 --> 01:37:28,200
Speaker 3: took away this, well, not all of but like a

2133
01:37:28,240 --> 01:37:31,000
Speaker 3: fast proportion, like a big number. It was hundreds, hundreds

2134
01:37:31,000 --> 01:37:33,120
Speaker 3: and hundreds of bins. And when they took them away,

2135
01:37:33,240 --> 01:37:35,880
Speaker 3: they said, don't worry, we will recycle these bins. We

2136
01:37:35,920 --> 01:37:38,960
Speaker 3: will replace craddy broken bins. By using these bins and

2137
01:37:39,000 --> 01:37:41,599
Speaker 3: everybody's oh, thank you, okay, cool, that's all right. Then

2138
01:37:42,320 --> 01:37:46,439
Speaker 3: unfortunately somebody called Jason has just found And I don't

2139
01:37:46,439 --> 01:37:48,559
Speaker 3: want to say Jason's full name because I don't want

2140
01:37:48,560 --> 01:37:54,040
Speaker 3: to cause him unnecessary trouble for being numpty. But Jason

2141
01:37:54,080 --> 01:37:57,519
Speaker 3: got very upset because he went to Auckland Domain and

2142
01:37:57,520 --> 01:38:00,400
Speaker 3: he looked behind the fence and he saw all bins

2143
01:38:00,439 --> 01:38:03,000
Speaker 3: lying there in what he calls a bin graveyard. He

2144
01:38:03,080 --> 01:38:04,840
Speaker 3: was so upset about it he decided to get in

2145
01:38:04,880 --> 01:38:07,240
Speaker 3: touch with the papers about that, and he said he

2146
01:38:07,320 --> 01:38:09,960
Speaker 3: was really surprised that the bins were stored in such

2147
01:38:09,960 --> 01:38:12,599
Speaker 3: a disrespectful manner, like they're being chucked in a pile.

2148
01:38:15,000 --> 01:38:19,559
Speaker 3: What's the problem, Jason, what's your problem? The bins were

2149
01:38:19,680 --> 01:38:23,880
Speaker 3: lying outside. That's where bins live. Bins live outside. That's

2150
01:38:24,040 --> 01:38:26,839
Speaker 3: they are made to weather the conditions because they are bins.

2151
01:38:27,240 --> 01:38:29,519
Speaker 3: So what's the problem with the bins? Did you want

2152
01:38:29,520 --> 01:38:31,639
Speaker 3: the bins stacked? Because I mean, we can, we can

2153
01:38:31,680 --> 01:38:34,800
Speaker 3: pay somebody to go and stack the bins like little Domino's,

2154
01:38:34,840 --> 01:38:36,400
Speaker 3: all next to each other, so it looks like an

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Speaker 3: orderly kind of I mean, if if what we're dealing

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Speaker 3: with you is but OCD which want to have them tidy,

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Speaker 3: we can do that. But if what you're advocating, Jason

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Speaker 3: is that we take the outdoor bins and put them

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Speaker 3: in internal storage, get a grip mate, because that's that's

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Speaker 3: going to cost us money to put the bins somewhere inside. Look,

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Speaker 3: what the hell? Also, can the media please have higher

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Speaker 3: bar for things that we complain about. That's not a complaint,

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Speaker 3: that's just put it on your Twitter account.

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Speaker 5: Andy.

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Speaker 32: Yeah, imagine Jason with an organic an organic collection. Imagine

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Speaker 32: him walking around the streets when everything's out on.

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Speaker 3: The side of don't tell him about that.

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Speaker 32: He's not gonna like that or that gang pad that

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Speaker 32: you're trying to sell earlier.

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Speaker 3: Imagine if he sees those appliance as lying outside they're

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Speaker 3: actually supposed to be inside, lying outside.

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Speaker 32: And she's quite annoyed about the bins there to be

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Speaker 32: fair and go to the local park with it with

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Speaker 32: the kids, and I can't put the nappies anywhere.

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Speaker 3: Well, yeah, that is annoying. But don't you just have

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Speaker 3: like in your baby bag. Don't you have the little

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Speaker 3: poo bags you put the nappy in?

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Speaker 2: Not a dog.

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Speaker 3: I'm not saying she's a dog.

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Speaker 12: Pooh bags.

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Speaker 3: Don't you have poo bags? I don't have poo bags. Andy.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna have to get you some pooh bags, little

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Speaker 3: poo bag.

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Speaker 32: You just put the some poo bags tomorrow.

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Speaker 3: That's and they're centered.

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Speaker 2: Oh that's nice.

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Speaker 3: Ye okay, if I remember, I'm a right out of

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Speaker 3: my hand. Here, hold on poobee bags for Andy.

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Speaker 32: If a cold play for at least more tickets we

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Speaker 32: go out with clocks tonight, you can get them from

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Speaker 32: Live Nation for Eden Park for their three shows.

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Speaker 3: It's going to be so epic. I got a ticket

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Speaker 3: from Colpay for my birthday from my wonderful friend Rachel.

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Speaker 28: Isn't that nice?

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Speaker 3: I have a friend I know. Go Rachelhw's next.

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