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Speaker 1: If you've got kids who play with colored sand, listen up.

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Speaker 1: Seven different Magic sand products have now been recalled because

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Speaker 1: it turns out they might actually contain asbestos. The products

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Speaker 1: are Kmart, Blue, Pink and Green Magic Sand. Some schools

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Speaker 1: and ecs have had to close classrooms and call in

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Speaker 1: asbestos specialists. Ian Kaplan is NB product safety spokesperson on

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Speaker 1: the line. Ian good afternoon, Hi Rayan, So what is this?

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Speaker 1: How dangerous is the sand product?

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Speaker 2: Well, first of all, everyone is working through this speed

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Speaker 2: to just work out actually what the kind of the

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Speaker 2: nature and the extent of the problem is in terms

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Speaker 2: of in terms of that sort of thing. We have

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Speaker 2: treated it and we are taking a really really across

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Speaker 2: government precautious approach because obviously this product finds itself in

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Speaker 2: schools and early learning centers and kids who are involved.

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Speaker 2: So we're not hanging about.

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Speaker 1: So have you tested one batch and it's come up

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Speaker 1: with aspestos or have you done multiple how many? How

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Speaker 1: many people?

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Speaker 2: So testing is continuing. There have been what what triggered

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Speaker 2: this initially was last week in fact, when there was

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Speaker 2: an independent test in Australia on another firm EC with

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Speaker 2: their colored sand Educational colors, and the company has done

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Speaker 2: a voluntary product recall for those. Testing has happened here

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Speaker 2: for this kmart sand and again that's come up, so

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Speaker 2: we responded to that, but we're continuing to get testing

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Speaker 2: in process. Others are testing and we're and the suppliers

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Speaker 2: Kmar and EC the earlier one are looking across their

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Speaker 2: supply line, so they're recalling the product voluntarily. They're absolutely

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Speaker 2: complying and looking at just where they put these things

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Speaker 2: out where these things have been sold.

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Speaker 1: If you have kids at home who play with the stuff,

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Speaker 1: should you be really worried about it or should you

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Speaker 1: be a bit relaxed.

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Speaker 2: Of course, I'm a dad. If you've got kids at home,

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Speaker 2: I completely understand that there any any parents or caregivers

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Speaker 2: will be concerned. What I would say is if you

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Speaker 2: are concerned, and saying don't panic makes people panic, I know.

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Speaker 2: But what I would say is potential impact of a

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Speaker 2: SPECIALS exposure is that is a long term thing. People

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Speaker 2: don't need to take immediate steps to manage their health

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Speaker 2: if there is any concern. What I would encourage any way, Ryan,

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Speaker 2: is for people to go to the Health New Zealand website.

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Speaker 2: They've got a massive amount of really understandable information on

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Speaker 2: this situation. In particularly if you've.

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Speaker 1: Got that's all great, But if if, how likely is

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Speaker 1: it that if your kid's been playing with this, they

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Speaker 1: have been exposed to asbestos in a dangerous form.

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Speaker 2: Well, again, we can't We can't actually give you the

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Speaker 2: answer to that, right.

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Speaker 1: What we can say so we just know that there

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Speaker 1: is a little bit of a spiestos in the product

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Speaker 1: in a testing batch that's been done, but we don't

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Speaker 1: know the concentration on each.

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Speaker 2: Right absolutely, So we're looking at the whole context. We're

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Speaker 2: going and look at looking as far as we can,

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Speaker 2: so we're going out on abundance of caution. What I

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Speaker 2: was going to say, Ryan.

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Speaker 1: Is it fine enough that that's being ingested into the

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Speaker 1: kids system? Does it measure if they eat it or

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Speaker 1: is it only if they inhale it into the lungs?

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Speaker 2: Were We're not in a position to talk about that

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Speaker 2: yet in terms of health risks, We're still looking at

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Speaker 2: what the nature of the problem is. What I will say,

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Speaker 2: if you let me finish my sentence, is that we

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Speaker 2: want people to check their health. New Zealand website for

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Speaker 2: directions on what to do, how to bag this stuff up.

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Speaker 2: It's very very clear. If people are still concerned, then

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Speaker 2: phoning up Health sign or going to the GP would

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Speaker 2: be the ways forward. I also want to say that

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Speaker 2: if you're a place of work, which can include a

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Speaker 2: school but it might be other places as well, work

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Speaker 2: safe are the people to talk to there if and

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Speaker 2: that the councils are getting ready to receive disposable asbestos.

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Speaker 2: So the process and Health New Zealand advice is to

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Speaker 2: get rid of this stuff once you've bagged it up

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Speaker 2: in the proper way and put it out through there.

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Speaker 2: I do understand in the bed no, this isn't. This

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Speaker 2: isn't this isn't a wastepin job, this isn't a hoover job.

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Speaker 2: So the Health New Zealand site has got it all

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Speaker 2: in there, but very baldly speaking, if it's in the tub,

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Speaker 2: double bag it, put it out the way. If it's

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Speaker 2: not in the tub and lying around on the floor,

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Speaker 2: the Health New Zealand site will talk about ways in

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Speaker 2: which you can clear it up. If there is any

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Speaker 2: uncertainty over that, then having to call him expert maybe necessary,

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Speaker 2: But get people to the Health New Zealand.

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Speaker 1: Site, so no one can throw it on the burn,

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Speaker 1: double bag it, and then it's going to go somewhere.

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Speaker 1: We'll look on the Health newsand website for weir how

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Speaker 1: many houses have got this, how many products have been so,

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Speaker 1: how much is out there?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, we're still we're still working through that. Rhye.

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Speaker 2: We're still looking the the companies a lot. I'm not

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Speaker 2: going to speculate and give you finite numbers because that's

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Speaker 2: not responsible and it doesn't actually reflect a correct answer.

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Speaker 2: What the supplies are doing at the moment is what

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Speaker 2: they do in a standard product safety recor, which is

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Speaker 2: checking their inventories, checking their stocks, checking what other supply

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Speaker 2: lines these things have got into. This is a prohibited substance,

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Speaker 2: and it's on the retailers once they are disclosed, they've

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Speaker 2: got it to check just where it is that they

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Speaker 2: have sold it. We're obviously broadcasting this as far and

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Speaker 2: as wide as possible, and they've dealt the first available opportunity.

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Speaker 1: Ian appreciate your time this afternoon, Ian Kaplan from Mbeat.

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