1 00:00:05,519 --> 00:00:05,880 Speaker 1: Yoda. 2 00:00:05,960 --> 00:00:09,200 Speaker 2: I'm Chelsea Daniels and this is the Front Page, a 3 00:00:09,280 --> 00:00:17,560 Speaker 2: daily podcast presented by the New Zealand Herald. If there's 4 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:21,840 Speaker 2: one topic kiwis never get tired of talking about its houses. 5 00:00:22,360 --> 00:00:25,720 Speaker 2: It's the biggest purchase most people ever making their lives. 6 00:00:26,079 --> 00:00:29,960 Speaker 2: So if you're looking to buy it pasted, do your research. Fortunately, 7 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:33,519 Speaker 2: One Roof has today released its official ranking of the 8 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:41,200 Speaker 2: one hundred hottest suburbs across the nation. Alongside data partner Velocity, 9 00:00:41,479 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 2: the experts have combed through every neighborhood in the country 10 00:00:45,680 --> 00:00:50,920 Speaker 2: and rated them on factors like affordability, amenities and growth potential. 11 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:53,720 Speaker 2: Today on the Front Page, we're joined by One Roof 12 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:57,160 Speaker 2: editor Owen Vaughan to talk about their process and some 13 00:00:57,200 --> 00:01:04,280 Speaker 2: of the surprising discoveries they made along the way. Oh 14 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:08,400 Speaker 2: and first off, what are our top suburbs this year? 15 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:11,560 Speaker 1: Our top suburbs. There's a bit of a surprise there. 16 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:14,920 Speaker 1: I think most people, when you put to them, were 17 00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:18,759 Speaker 1: New Zealand's one hundred best suburbs. There'll probably be lots 18 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:26,880 Speaker 1: of different answers, probably Ponson Bay, graylen Omaha, Oriental Bay, Bendleton. Sorry, 19 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 1: none of those make the cup. What we wanted to 20 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:33,920 Speaker 1: find out was the suburbs that had the most potential 21 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:37,120 Speaker 1: to grow. So we wanted to look at the next Graylands, 22 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:40,479 Speaker 1: the next ponds and bays, the next omahas, because look, 23 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:44,319 Speaker 1: everyone you talk to when you talk about real estate, 24 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:48,000 Speaker 1: they all go, Gosh, I wish I'd bought in grayle 25 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:51,480 Speaker 1: In in the nineteen nineties, or I wish I'd brought 26 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:55,840 Speaker 1: in Queenstown twenty years ago when no property was really cheap. 27 00:01:56,200 --> 00:01:59,640 Speaker 1: And so we wanted to identify those areas, the areas 28 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:04,400 Speaker 1: that will be affordable for own buyers or people going 29 00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 1: into their second home, which will grow in value. So 30 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:11,040 Speaker 1: the place is in thirty years time whether they'll be going, God, 31 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:14,160 Speaker 1: I wish I'd bought there. And so the number one 32 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:16,919 Speaker 1: suburb is East Hammocky, and I think most people will 33 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:21,040 Speaker 1: be going, what what East Hamacke. Isn't that an industrial estate? 34 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:22,880 Speaker 1: How many houses are there? 35 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:23,280 Speaker 3: Look? 36 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 1: East Hamakae residential suburb is a small sliver on the 37 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:32,840 Speaker 1: side of a big industrial estate. It's also sandwich between 38 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:36,120 Speaker 1: lots of suburbs that are seen as higher value. So 39 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:40,920 Speaker 1: like your howex your Halfman Bay's, your Danni Mora's, these 40 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:43,680 Speaker 1: are Auckland suburbs that are out in the east and 41 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:48,880 Speaker 1: they're seen as desirable because they're zoned for good schools, 42 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:51,600 Speaker 1: they've got lots of manitaying, or they've probably got some 43 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 1: stellar views as well. If you're on the coast east. 44 00:02:55,880 --> 00:03:01,000 Speaker 1: Haamackey is close to those suburbs. It's got a affordable housing, 45 00:03:01,160 --> 00:03:05,400 Speaker 1: it's next to a huge employment center and it's just 46 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:08,359 Speaker 1: going to grow in value. Because of that. People will 47 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:11,480 Speaker 1: see it as a stepping suburb right now, but it 48 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:17,080 Speaker 1: will become the destination suburb in maybe five and ten years. 49 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 1: So people who can get in now are going to 50 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:24,040 Speaker 1: be the people in thirty years time going I told 51 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:24,760 Speaker 1: you so. 52 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:27,960 Speaker 2: So I'm looking in Ace, Tamakay where else should I 53 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:28,440 Speaker 2: be looking? 54 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:33,480 Speaker 1: Where else should you be looking? Otahou, Otara, Mungery. Those 55 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 1: are suburbs that don't usually make a list of the 56 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 1: best suburbs in New Zealand probably kind of like make 57 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:43,480 Speaker 1: lots of other lists that probably are pretty detrimental to 58 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:46,240 Speaker 1: those suburbs. But I don't think that people should view 59 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 1: those suburbs as being anything less than great places to live. 60 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 1: And that's where we want to look at as well. 61 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:56,840 Speaker 1: It's not just is it decide a place where you 62 00:03:56,880 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 1: can go to work. Is it going to grow in value? 63 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:02,000 Speaker 1: Because they're houses are deep cheap. We wanted to look 64 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 1: at places where there's great amenity, and that usually means 65 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:08,680 Speaker 1: kind of now good schools or great restaurants, cafes, and 66 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:12,160 Speaker 1: these communities. When we went down and we talked to 67 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:14,240 Speaker 1: the people who live there, we talk to the agents 68 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:18,360 Speaker 1: who sell there. These are humming, vibrant communities and I 69 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 1: think people who don't have any knowledge of these communities 70 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:24,600 Speaker 1: should go check them out. They are kind of no 71 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:26,839 Speaker 1: good places to live. You'll be able to get on 72 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:31,040 Speaker 1: the property ladder in Auckland at least in a very 73 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:36,000 Speaker 1: kind of like reasonable price. And so those are the surprises. 74 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 1: Other places outside of Auckland, we've got lots of suburbs 75 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:48,240 Speaker 1: in Masterton, Fanganui, Gisburn, christ Church features prominently, Sydnym, the 76 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:52,520 Speaker 1: central city suburbs there. These are all great humming places 77 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:57,239 Speaker 1: that we've got developments that are happening around them. They're cheap. 78 00:04:58,960 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 4: It's different points in the cycle. People are very interested 79 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:04,560 Speaker 4: in that kind of migration. The big centers out into 80 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:06,920 Speaker 4: kind of provincial towns and cities. If you want to 81 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 4: call it that, And certainly after COVID that I whole 82 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:11,839 Speaker 4: push to get more space, you know, get the lifestyle 83 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:14,200 Speaker 4: dream or whatever it was. And you look at the 84 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:16,839 Speaker 4: stets and it's definitely not clear cat. There's always people 85 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:19,279 Speaker 4: going both ways, regardless of the point in the cycle. 86 00:05:19,279 --> 00:05:22,279 Speaker 4: There's always people moving out to regions, there's always people 87 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:24,200 Speaker 4: moving back into the big cities. 88 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:28,679 Speaker 1: So if I was a first home buyer right now, 89 00:05:29,320 --> 00:05:32,760 Speaker 1: these were to be the places that I would look happily. 90 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:36,040 Speaker 1: Not my own suburb features in the list. I did 91 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:38,919 Speaker 1: n't enjoy the figures. It got there on its own merits. 92 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 1: Just let me tell you a better story about myself. 93 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:44,120 Speaker 1: I came to New Zealand. You could probably guess I'm 94 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:48,920 Speaker 1: not from New Zealand. Know what kind of accent is that. 95 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:52,480 Speaker 1: I'm from Scotland. And I rocked up in New Zealand 96 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:56,200 Speaker 1: just over ten years ago with my Kiwi wife, and 97 00:05:56,839 --> 00:06:01,920 Speaker 1: we're looking for somewhere to live, somewhere to buy. And 98 00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:04,039 Speaker 1: I think for most people, when you turn up to 99 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:07,479 Speaker 1: a new location, it can all seem a lot, it 100 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:11,279 Speaker 1: can seem very overwhelming, it's daunting. We all wish we 101 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:15,600 Speaker 1: could have Kirsty and Phil or the new Location Location Location, 102 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:18,880 Speaker 1: New Zealand hosts are becking call to go off and 103 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:21,559 Speaker 1: find us a house a great price, but we don't. 104 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:24,600 Speaker 1: We have to search and it can be time consuming 105 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:29,320 Speaker 1: and it could be really daunting. So we found ourselves 106 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:34,159 Speaker 1: looking at first in places like Saint John's in Auckland 107 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 1: and that's a fairly nice suburb, but very expensive. We 108 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:44,080 Speaker 1: looked at Stonefields again, really nice suburb, really expensive, and 109 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:46,760 Speaker 1: we just didn't have that money to pay for a 110 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:50,680 Speaker 1: house like that. Even back in twenty fourteen, part of 111 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:53,679 Speaker 1: me wishes you should have just gone to the bank 112 00:06:53,720 --> 00:06:56,200 Speaker 1: and got every money that you could have got and 113 00:06:56,279 --> 00:06:58,080 Speaker 1: just got in a queen'stown. But we didn't make that 114 00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:01,960 Speaker 1: decision where we ended up only hung Out. We started 115 00:07:01,960 --> 00:07:05,800 Speaker 1: looking at suburbs that were on rail lines. I used 116 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:08,680 Speaker 1: to live in London and that was the key thing 117 00:07:08,839 --> 00:07:11,160 Speaker 1: if you were looking to buy a house, buy a 118 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:14,040 Speaker 1: house next to a tube station, because you needed to 119 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 1: be connected to get to work. And that's where we 120 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:22,480 Speaker 1: started looking. And we found only Hunga and that's where 121 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 1: we bought and we love it there. It's a great humunity, 122 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:29,840 Speaker 1: but at the time it was really affordable, and we 123 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:32,880 Speaker 1: just see it growing in value, not from monetary point 124 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:35,520 Speaker 1: of view, but we can see the development that's going 125 00:07:35,560 --> 00:07:38,720 Speaker 1: on down there. There's lots of new apartment blocks, lots 126 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:42,679 Speaker 1: of new cafes coming in the dressmark. That's a big 127 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:46,680 Speaker 1: feature of only Hunger that's getting redeveloped. So these kind 128 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:50,680 Speaker 1: of things make a suburb seem all the more impressive 129 00:07:50,720 --> 00:07:54,960 Speaker 1: and all the more attractive to buyers. And so that's 130 00:07:55,240 --> 00:07:59,120 Speaker 1: my little own personal story of I know what suburbs 131 00:07:59,160 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 1: should be be going to. What are the factors that 132 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:03,800 Speaker 1: are the reasons you should go to a suburb? 133 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:06,600 Speaker 2: In terms of creating this list, so you mentioned that 134 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:10,640 Speaker 2: you spoke to local real estate agents and what kind 135 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:14,680 Speaker 2: of work went into finding and really digging in compressing 136 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:18,400 Speaker 2: this list and naming the one hundred best suburbs. 137 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:21,280 Speaker 1: So what we did was we wanted to create an index. 138 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:23,480 Speaker 1: We just didn't want to create out put a hole 139 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:25,880 Speaker 1: of the suburbs in a hat and go here's one, 140 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:29,720 Speaker 1: or we choose our favorite suburbs because it's all subjective 141 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:32,760 Speaker 1: when you do it that way, and everyone's got a 142 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:36,160 Speaker 1: personal connection to a certain suburb and thinks that that's 143 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:39,600 Speaker 1: a suburb that should go off. We looked at round 144 00:08:39,640 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 1: about ten to twelve factors and created an index around that, 145 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:48,960 Speaker 1: and we measured the suburbs on those factors, so employment, 146 00:08:49,520 --> 00:08:55,600 Speaker 1: resistance to price scrops, price growth, population growth, the turnover 147 00:08:55,760 --> 00:08:59,319 Speaker 1: of a suburb, the amnity that's around there, of schooling. 148 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:03,840 Speaker 1: We definitely did do it in a methodical manner because 149 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:08,079 Speaker 1: really anecdotal evidence can kind of point you down some 150 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:11,160 Speaker 1: blind alleys, and this we felt was going to be 151 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:13,680 Speaker 1: the best case. But what we ended up doing was 152 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:16,120 Speaker 1: when we had that list, we went out to agents, 153 00:09:16,160 --> 00:09:19,719 Speaker 1: We went to the people who sell there and kind 154 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:21,680 Speaker 1: of no buy there, and we wanted to get there 155 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:24,600 Speaker 1: kind of from a perspective on these suburbs. And by 156 00:09:24,640 --> 00:09:28,200 Speaker 1: and large, what we found with our index was being 157 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:30,240 Speaker 1: reflected in the suburbs themselves. 158 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:42,880 Speaker 2: Were you surprised with the top five or ten? 159 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:45,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, I was surprised that my own suburb didn't make 160 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:47,800 Speaker 1: number one, even though I'd paid a lot of people 161 00:09:47,840 --> 00:09:52,840 Speaker 1: to do that. No, I was surprised by maybe some 162 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:55,200 Speaker 1: of the suburbs that were in there, maybe not the 163 00:09:55,320 --> 00:09:58,160 Speaker 1: type of suburbs they were, maybe the names of the suburbs. 164 00:09:58,440 --> 00:10:01,160 Speaker 1: I wouldn't have picked East Hamaka mainly because I've never 165 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:04,440 Speaker 1: gotten to these tamiki before. I've only recently been there, 166 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:07,000 Speaker 1: and we wanted to get a sense of what's it 167 00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:10,480 Speaker 1: actually like. And it's great. I love being there. It 168 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:12,400 Speaker 1: was kind of an eye opener whenever you got a 169 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:14,679 Speaker 1: new place and you can see, all right, I can 170 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 1: see why people would want to live here, I can 171 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:19,079 Speaker 1: see why people have bought here. Some of those kind 172 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:23,160 Speaker 1: of results were surprising, and I've found out about lots 173 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:26,120 Speaker 1: of different places in New Zealand that previously I'd have 174 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:30,360 Speaker 1: no knowledge of, and that's always kind of fun. And 175 00:10:30,559 --> 00:10:35,000 Speaker 1: hopefully that's what that list does, that people can see it, 176 00:10:35,679 --> 00:10:38,320 Speaker 1: browse through it and say, all right, I never thought that, 177 00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:41,440 Speaker 1: you know, buying and fung anui could be so great 178 00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:43,839 Speaker 1: and it's going to go up in value at least 179 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:46,760 Speaker 1: kind of now, that's what the forecast say. So I 180 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:49,600 Speaker 1: think that's the joy of those kind of lists. There's 181 00:10:49,640 --> 00:10:52,760 Speaker 1: always a kind of like a surprise entry in there, 182 00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:55,360 Speaker 1: lots of prise entries, and I think it's going to 183 00:10:55,400 --> 00:10:58,920 Speaker 1: be a good talker for people just going I didn't 184 00:10:58,960 --> 00:11:02,719 Speaker 1: think wastamiki should and hopefully the residency East Tammochy will 185 00:11:02,760 --> 00:11:05,440 Speaker 1: be going well, I told you so. I bought here 186 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 1: for a reason. 187 00:11:07,280 --> 00:11:11,360 Speaker 2: In terms of this being a resource for first home buyers, 188 00:11:11,360 --> 00:11:14,520 Speaker 2: it's also a resource for those on their second and 189 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:15,280 Speaker 2: third as well. 190 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 1: Hey yeah, look, there's certain suburbs in this list that 191 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:23,079 Speaker 1: wouldn't be considered first home buyer suburbs. I'd say Mount 192 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:26,120 Speaker 1: Eden would be one. You've got to be earning a 193 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:28,680 Speaker 1: lot of money to be a first home buyer in 194 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:31,679 Speaker 1: Mount Eden. But we didn't just go, well, what's the 195 00:11:31,760 --> 00:11:34,360 Speaker 1: cheapest suburbs and then go for that. Mount Eden's got 196 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:37,520 Speaker 1: a lot of opportunity in scope to grow in value, 197 00:11:37,559 --> 00:11:41,040 Speaker 1: so people who are buying now in that suburb, and 198 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:43,840 Speaker 1: for people who don't know what Mount Eden is, it's 199 00:11:43,880 --> 00:11:47,679 Speaker 1: a inner city suburb in Auckland. It's got lots of villas. 200 00:11:47,840 --> 00:11:50,360 Speaker 1: It's seen as kind of, you know, one of the 201 00:11:50,400 --> 00:11:54,640 Speaker 1: top suburbs to buy in Auckland, largely because of the 202 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:58,200 Speaker 1: schooling that's on offer there. It's in a zone called 203 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:02,800 Speaker 1: double Grammar Zone and that's seen as pretty much an 204 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:07,080 Speaker 1: extra million dollars because you're in a zone for some 205 00:12:07,120 --> 00:12:09,080 Speaker 1: of the best schools in the country. So that's been 206 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:12,959 Speaker 1: Auckland Grammar for boys and Epsong girls grammar. But also 207 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:16,880 Speaker 1: there's lots of private schools that are around there that 208 00:12:17,520 --> 00:12:20,240 Speaker 1: lots of families who buy in these areas want to 209 00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:24,000 Speaker 1: go to. We thought that because Mount Eden was close 210 00:12:24,040 --> 00:12:27,480 Speaker 1: to aid in Terrace, close to where the new CRL 211 00:12:27,960 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 1: line is coming in, it hadn't seen the crazy prices 212 00:12:32,600 --> 00:12:35,599 Speaker 1: that now we had seen in remu Era, which is 213 00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:39,079 Speaker 1: another double grammar zone suburb and gets all sorts of 214 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:43,840 Speaker 1: attention for ten million twenty million dollar house sales. Mount 215 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:47,920 Speaker 1: Eden is not in that league, but it's seen as 216 00:12:47,640 --> 00:12:51,800 Speaker 1: a fairly prestigious and expensive suburb. But for people who 217 00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:54,880 Speaker 1: can afford it and can get in, that's a suburb 218 00:12:54,880 --> 00:12:56,640 Speaker 1: that's just going to grow in value. 219 00:12:56,840 --> 00:12:59,040 Speaker 2: There are a lot of suburbs, and you've mentioned this 220 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:01,920 Speaker 2: with certain stakes mis around them and due to things 221 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:05,640 Speaker 2: like high number of reported crimes for example, how much 222 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:08,960 Speaker 2: does this affect a suburbs writing? Do you think is 223 00:13:08,960 --> 00:13:11,520 Speaker 2: it a possible for an area to truly shake a 224 00:13:11,679 --> 00:13:12,600 Speaker 2: stigma like that? 225 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:15,480 Speaker 1: Look, it's one of those things when people are buying 226 00:13:15,679 --> 00:13:19,000 Speaker 1: its front of mind, you can't help but go, oh, 227 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:21,800 Speaker 1: I read that you know such and such kind of 228 00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:25,360 Speaker 1: no bad crime happened on that kind of no street 229 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:28,480 Speaker 1: that's around a corner, or isn't that the place that 230 00:13:28,679 --> 00:13:34,000 Speaker 1: somebody got salted, stabbed or whatever? Those are real issues 231 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:36,440 Speaker 1: for kind of no buyers. It may not be the 232 00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:40,160 Speaker 1: number one issue for buyers. Prices usually that. But you 233 00:13:40,200 --> 00:13:41,920 Speaker 1: want to feel safe in your community. You want to 234 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:44,840 Speaker 1: feel like you can walk outside and you know you're 235 00:13:44,880 --> 00:13:48,200 Speaker 1: going to be in good company. But most suburbs in 236 00:13:48,240 --> 00:13:52,200 Speaker 1: New Zealand have a certain element of crime that goes on. 237 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:56,840 Speaker 1: I mean Pons being a very desirable suburb, but we 238 00:13:57,000 --> 00:14:01,720 Speaker 1: saw kind of arendous shooting earlier that happened and that 239 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:05,559 Speaker 1: does make people go eh, But does that stigmatize a suburb. 240 00:14:05,840 --> 00:14:08,320 Speaker 1: I think you have certain suburbs in South Auckland, and 241 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:11,720 Speaker 1: certain suburbs are around the regions. There will be certain 242 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:13,839 Speaker 1: types of people that would have a dim view of them. 243 00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:18,920 Speaker 1: And maybe that's been formed over years of a certain 244 00:14:18,960 --> 00:14:23,760 Speaker 1: amount of negative headlines, a certain amount of poor employment, 245 00:14:23,840 --> 00:14:28,400 Speaker 1: come of no prospects. But cities change, They're changing all 246 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:31,000 Speaker 1: the time. I grew up in a town called Dundee 247 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:34,520 Speaker 1: in Scotland, and where I grew up, I grew up 248 00:14:34,520 --> 00:14:37,720 Speaker 1: in a council estate and the house that I've come 249 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:40,640 Speaker 1: from grew up and is still there, but the houses 250 00:14:40,680 --> 00:14:43,920 Speaker 1: around it have kind of grown up over the last 251 00:14:43,960 --> 00:14:47,560 Speaker 1: kind of ten fifteen years, and it's now coming from 252 00:14:47,640 --> 00:14:49,520 Speaker 1: the suburbs which I grew up in. It's now saying 253 00:14:49,560 --> 00:14:53,440 Speaker 1: it's very desirable. It's got lots of big house sales 254 00:14:53,440 --> 00:14:55,880 Speaker 1: that I would never have thought possible. And I think 255 00:14:55,920 --> 00:14:59,040 Speaker 1: that's the same for Auckland. I mean, just during the 256 00:14:59,080 --> 00:15:03,600 Speaker 1: post COVID housing market boom, we were seeing people pay 257 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:06,840 Speaker 1: more than a million dollars for a house in Otara. Now, 258 00:15:07,040 --> 00:15:10,480 Speaker 1: that used to be the joke, the Atara Millionaires Club 259 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:13,960 Speaker 1: with kind of You, that song which I can't remember now. 260 00:15:14,120 --> 00:15:15,960 Speaker 1: I'm not from New Zealand, so if you asked me 261 00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:21,120 Speaker 1: about the Proclaimers, no problem. 262 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:24,560 Speaker 3: He's known as OMC tang in cheek now meaning Atara 263 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:27,960 Speaker 3: Millionaires Club. I mean, I mean I say that, I 264 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:29,520 Speaker 3: mean it's it's really had to be in a point 265 00:15:29,520 --> 00:15:32,640 Speaker 3: where she's surrounded by some really famous people and you 266 00:15:32,680 --> 00:15:34,720 Speaker 3: don't know what to say, You're awkward, and you know, 267 00:15:34,800 --> 00:15:36,840 Speaker 3: you knock out the glass of wine and stuff and 268 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:37,960 Speaker 3: people don't understand it. 269 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:44,960 Speaker 1: But Atara getting a million dollars. I was like, that's 270 00:15:45,840 --> 00:15:49,480 Speaker 1: but that happened. People wanted to spend money in a 271 00:15:49,560 --> 00:15:52,520 Speaker 1: house in Atara and they wanted to pay no seven 272 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:55,080 Speaker 1: figures for it. Now you're seeing a lot of new 273 00:15:55,120 --> 00:15:58,920 Speaker 1: developments are happening in these South Aakland suburbs. The idea 274 00:15:58,960 --> 00:16:02,680 Speaker 1: of slums of the past are quickly being forgotten. There's 275 00:16:02,720 --> 00:16:05,720 Speaker 1: a lot of modern new housing there. I think most 276 00:16:05,800 --> 00:16:08,800 Speaker 1: Aucklanders of a certain age would remember that Ponson Bay 277 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:12,080 Speaker 1: and gray Linn we're seeing as no go areas like 278 00:16:12,520 --> 00:16:14,080 Speaker 1: don't want to go in pons and Me and graylan 279 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:16,520 Speaker 1: At that you will get mugged, you will get stabbed. 280 00:16:16,880 --> 00:16:21,000 Speaker 1: It's a horrible area. And that was a little bit 281 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:26,520 Speaker 1: of classism, fear of different cultures, whatever. But these suburbs 282 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:30,520 Speaker 1: are no longer seen as that. They're seen as, oh, 283 00:16:30,600 --> 00:16:32,000 Speaker 1: if I've got a lot of money, out buy a 284 00:16:32,040 --> 00:16:34,560 Speaker 1: house in pons and Bay kind of suburbs. And that's 285 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:38,960 Speaker 1: what's going to happen with places like Atara Otahoo and 286 00:16:39,280 --> 00:16:42,240 Speaker 1: I think most people who go there now we'll see 287 00:16:42,280 --> 00:16:45,080 Speaker 1: kind of now the warmth of the communities, that there 288 00:16:44,920 --> 00:16:48,360 Speaker 1: are communities where people want to have a great family lifestyle, 289 00:16:48,800 --> 00:16:51,760 Speaker 1: and I don't think people should be put off by 290 00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:54,840 Speaker 1: headlines because if that were the case, we should be 291 00:16:54,880 --> 00:16:57,240 Speaker 1: staying away from pons and Bay's, We should be staying 292 00:16:57,240 --> 00:17:00,160 Speaker 1: away from remnu errors, we should be staying away from No. 293 00:17:00,240 --> 00:17:02,840 Speaker 1: Iraqis where one of the courtes we got from one 294 00:17:02,840 --> 00:17:04,720 Speaker 1: of the real estate agents. Yes, there was a p 295 00:17:04,920 --> 00:17:08,000 Speaker 1: lub in a much in Iraqi, and we've seen kind 296 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:11,240 Speaker 1: of like lots of bad headlines are owned lots of suburbs, 297 00:17:11,720 --> 00:17:15,520 Speaker 1: cities change, and majority people who live in these suburbs 298 00:17:15,560 --> 00:17:17,959 Speaker 1: are nice folk just want to go on with their lives, 299 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:20,560 Speaker 1: and I don't think we should tar them with some 300 00:17:20,600 --> 00:17:22,160 Speaker 1: of the negative headlines that come out. 301 00:17:22,600 --> 00:17:30,399 Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us on That's it for this episode 302 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:33,520 Speaker 2: of The Front Page. You can read more about today's 303 00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:38,400 Speaker 2: stories and extensive news coverage at enziherld dot co dot nz. 304 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:43,080 Speaker 2: The Front Page is produced by Ethan Seals. 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