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Speaker 2: Heather Duplicy Allen on the mic, asking breakfast with al Vida, Retirement, Communities,

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Speaker 3: Jod Morning and coming up this Tuesday morning. We are

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Speaker 3: doing the big old you turn on the poly text.

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Speaker 3: But aren't we just going to have the same problems

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Speaker 3: we had? The full will talk to the Nelson Marlborough

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Speaker 3: Institute of Technology. Trump is threatening person with sanctions unless

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Speaker 3: he ends the war. We're going to have a chat

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Speaker 3: to Robert Patman, expert on international relations for Minister, on

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Speaker 3: why exam pass rates are finally climbing, the ABO industry

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Speaker 3: on why they are on the up and up. And

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Speaker 3: Mike pron legendary scrum coach on what he learned from

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Speaker 3: ballet dancers and suma wrestlers.

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Speaker 1: Heather Duplicy Allen.

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Speaker 3: It's probably sensible, don't you think for the Blues to

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Speaker 3: consider leaving Eden Park for Mount Smart. It's not going

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Speaker 3: to fix the attendance issues, though they seem to be

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Speaker 3: hoping it's going to fix the crowd. In the consultation

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Speaker 3: that they're asking a question of fans are asking them

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Speaker 3: whether moving to Mount Smart will make them quote more

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Speaker 3: or less likely to attend the Blue Super Rugby men's

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Speaker 3: home games. The fans may look at that and go

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Speaker 3: yeah and say yes, but they won't. Mount Smart is

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Speaker 3: no better than Eden Park. It's not easier to get

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Speaker 3: there with public transport. It's about the same. If you drive,

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Speaker 3: you're still going to have to find a car park

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Speaker 3: somewhere on the road or on private property. You're still

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Speaker 3: going to be exposed to the elements in the stand.

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Speaker 3: You're still going to be paying for your beer and

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Speaker 3: your chips instead of getting them out of your kitchen.

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Speaker 3: Maybe you could argue that Mount Smart has a slight

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Speaker 3: advantage in that you're coming straight off the motorway instead

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Speaker 3: of fighting to get down Dominion Road in a traffic jam,

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Speaker 3: but I don't think that's enough of a difference to

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Speaker 3: supercharge a crowd. Maybe you could argue that because the

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Speaker 3: Warriors and the Eakland Football Club are there, forms a fans'

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Speaker 3: former habit, so they go because they know how to go.

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Speaker 3: But again I don't think that's the problem. I think

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Speaker 3: the problem is just Super Rugby right. You're seeing poor

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Speaker 3: turnout for Super Rugby regular season around the country. Muana

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Speaker 3: pacificas six thousand turned up Crusaders one of their games.

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Speaker 3: Only thirteen thousand turned up Blues. Blues versus the Crusaders

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Speaker 3: one of the great matches, only eleven thousand turned up.

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Speaker 3: Now eleven thousand in fifty thousand stadium looks horrible. Twenty

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Speaker 3: five thousand stadium like Mount Smart. Mount Smart looks less bad.

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Speaker 3: But it is giving up, isn't it. I mean, the

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Speaker 3: Blues leaving the home of rugby is basically accepting that

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Speaker 3: this is now how it is. That the crowd size

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Speaker 3: of eleven thousand is simply how it's going to be,

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Speaker 3: and then they're downscaling accordingly. What they really should be

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Speaker 3: doing is finding smart ways to get us to come

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Speaker 3: to the super rugby games again, I don't know. Find

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Speaker 3: ways to get the family along, get the kid zone

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Speaker 3: going like they do at Eden Park with the bouncy castle,

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Speaker 3: that kind of thing. Find ways to get us excited

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Speaker 3: about the game of rugby. It's a boring product. Make

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Speaker 3: it less boring. Unless they do that. Crowds that only

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Speaker 3: quarter filler stadium are the future, in which case absolutely

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Speaker 3: move to Mount Smart. Then a smaller stadium is going

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Speaker 3: to hide those empty seats a whole lot better who

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Speaker 1: The world in ninety seconds.

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Speaker 3: Trump has had enough of Putin and might finally be

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Speaker 3: coming to terms with the fact that alleged friendships do

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Speaker 3: not end wars.

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Speaker 4: And disappointed and present important because I thought we would

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Speaker 4: have had a deal two months ago. But if it

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Speaker 4: doesn't seem to get there, so based on that, we're

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Speaker 4: going to be doing secondary tariffs if we don't have

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Speaker 4: a deal in fifty days. It's very simple and they'll

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Speaker 4: be at one hundred percent.

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Speaker 3: This was announced on the old Yellow Chairs alongside the

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Speaker 3: NATO Secretary General Mark Daddy Rutter.

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Speaker 5: I Fladimir Putting Today're you speaking about what you were

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Speaker 5: bene to do it fifty days? At this announcement, I

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Speaker 5: would reconsider that I should not take negotiations about Ukraine

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Speaker 5: more seriously.

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Speaker 3: Than I was doing it tomorrow now. It might not

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Speaker 3: please the base that wanted the US to completely pull

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Speaker 3: away from the Russia Ukraine War, but military analysts say

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Speaker 3: the US is at least finally back on the right side.

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Speaker 6: The president is finally realizing that Putin's word can't be trusted,

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Speaker 6: which has been the situation for decades. In Putin's foreign policy,

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Speaker 6: and the facts are that actions speak louder than words.

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Speaker 6: The ceasefire talks with Putin, it's all a bunch of theater.

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Speaker 3: Europe is developing a strategy to deal with Trump's thirty

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Speaker 7: If you're talking about thirty percent thirty percent plus, there

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Speaker 7: will be a huge impact on trade. It will be

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Speaker 7: almost impossible to continue the trading as we are used

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Speaker 7: in a transatlanting relationship.

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Speaker 3: Now, the UK government is still trying to eat into

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Speaker 3: the Reform Party's voter base by announcing more anti migrant measures.

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Speaker 8: New action agree with France includes establishing a new French

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Speaker 8: Company Demash of specialist enforcement officers with stronger public order

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Speaker 8: powers to address increases in violence on French beaches and

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Speaker 8: prevent vote launches before they reach the water.

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Speaker 3: It's been a bad day for the BBC. They've admitted

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Speaker 3: they should have acted sooner on Greg Wallace, while a

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Speaker 3: reporter has found that they broke editorial guidelines by not

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Speaker 3: saying that a doco they did on Gaza was narrated

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Speaker 3: by a Jama's official son. The government has taken notice.

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Speaker 9: What I've had in response is an action plan that

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Speaker 9: is aimed at addressing the reasons why some of these

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Speaker 9: failures happened and making sure that they can never happen again.

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Speaker 3: Finally, sticking in the UK, Rachel Reeves has announced a

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Speaker 3: unique plan in what has been deemed a small way

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Speaker 3: to try to from big issues. She says the government

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Speaker 3: will invest one and a half million pounds in a

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Speaker 3: quest to find chess grand masters and put chess back

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Speaker 3: on the map. The game is seeing a surge and

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Speaker 3: participation in the UK, with millions playing daily. Considering the

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Speaker 3: cost of living crisis, this hasn't gone down particularly well

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Speaker 3: as you can imagine, and that is news of the

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Speaker 3: world in ninety seconds. Now. There is a little bit

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Speaker 3: of a political spat going on in Argentina over the

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Speaker 3: pension level. The VP there with Argentina is a fascinating case.

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Speaker 3: And if you're not watching Argentina, can I recommend that

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Speaker 3: you watch Argentina because you want to see a country

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Speaker 3: being turned around in a drastic way. I mean, they

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Speaker 3: were on that path, was the path they were on,

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Speaker 3: got turned around headed in the other direction. Now keep

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Speaker 3: an eye on this because this is absolutely fascinating. But

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Speaker 3: a little bit of a sidebar. VP in Argentina wants

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Speaker 3: to put up the pension, but the president, Zavi Javi

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Speaker 3: Malay doesn't want to. So they've had a row, as

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Speaker 3: you do, on Twitter for everyone to see. He essentially

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Speaker 3: and then she told him to grow up. Now, the

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Speaker 3: issue is that times are tough in Argentina because it

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Speaker 3: was headed on the wrong path. The pensioners have been

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Speaker 3: protesting for an increase. He's basically trying to get the

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Speaker 3: books back in order. Reckons they can't afford the expenditure.

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Speaker 3: So if you want to have a fight, have it

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Speaker 3: Heather, You're spot on with your Rugby analogy. It is

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Speaker 3: a boring product, John, thank you. I'm going to get

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Speaker 3: you across exactly what Donald Trump has announced, just in

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Speaker 3: a tack right now at sixteen past six and Gregsmith,

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Speaker 3: devans Bund's management is with us. Morning Greg, Good morning, Heather.

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Speaker 3: All right. So we talked about manufacturing yesterday. Service is

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Speaker 3: not much better.

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Speaker 10: That's right. So this is the business beansie business News

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Speaker 10: and Forms of services and the ex search at the

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Speaker 10: services sector contributed for the fifth consecutive month in June,

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Speaker 10: so it was under the break even mark of fifty,

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Speaker 10: up three point two two points from May, but at

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Speaker 10: forty seven point three, still well below the long term

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Speaker 10: average of fifty two point nine. So you hear that

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Speaker 10: we've seen minimal expansion in the services sector of the

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Speaker 10: past eighty months, So pretty concerning when it accounts around

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Speaker 10: two thirds of our economy comes to the wide range

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Speaker 10: of industries. I think finance, insurance, property, health care, transport,

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Speaker 10: and also tourism. So new orders that week. Employment that's

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Speaker 10: been contracting for nineteen consecutive months, So yeah, many jobs,

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Speaker 10: because we know how tough it is out there for

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Speaker 10: many and the stretch we're going through is tied with

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Speaker 10: the global financial crisis, is the longest ever continual period

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Speaker 10: of net labour sheddings. That sort of telligent something. Yeah,

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Speaker 10: sector businesses are facing weak consumer confidence, our high cost

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Speaker 10: of living, and obviously just general economic uncertainty. I thought

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Speaker 10: the interesting thing that Benz pointed out is that services

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Speaker 10: sector conditions are getting worse, not better. So, yeah, we

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Speaker 10: keep talking about the economic recovery, but it seems like

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Speaker 10: the timeline that keeps getting pushed out further and further.

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Speaker 10: Another point here is that we're training well below our

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Speaker 10: peers in terms of services sector, so we're the only

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Speaker 10: country of a PEA side below fifty or below break even.

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Speaker 10: You look at Ossie, they're running at the highest level

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Speaker 10: one over a year at fifty one point eight. So

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Speaker 10: look we're in a tougher spot than most. But ben

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Speaker 10: Zaid do point out that the weak PEA sign also

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Speaker 10: the manufacturing one we talked about. You say, our supportive

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Speaker 10: of further rate cuts by their being said set something

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Speaker 10: to look forward to potentially in August and October, and

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Speaker 10: that perps will take the OCA down to two point

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Speaker 10: seventy five percent.

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Speaker 3: Are you seeing anything positive in the retail card spending?

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Speaker 10: Yes, before you're too gloomy, we are seeing some positive

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Speaker 10: aspects and it perhaps surprisingly it's from the retail sector.

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Speaker 10: So this is respect's latest updates. So retail card spending

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Speaker 10: rows are stronger than expected half percent in June, so

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Speaker 10: it's actually the first increase in four months, and there

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Speaker 10: two percent lift. As they point out, before we get

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Speaker 10: too excited, perhaps does need to be taken with a

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Speaker 10: grain of salt. We've actually said increased spinning on groceries,

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Speaker 10: and that's because things have been going up in price,

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Speaker 10: particularly likes of butter. We didn't see a fall and

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Speaker 10: picture price as well, so perhaps it consumers are sort

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Speaker 10: of spending on in other areas. But I think there's

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Speaker 10: certainly a positives and that discretionary spending that appears to

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Speaker 10: be picking up. We look at household durables, so things

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Speaker 10: like furniture that was up point six percent and peril

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Speaker 10: spinning was up three percent. Just on the downside, hospital

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Speaker 10: is still on a bit of apprecire that was down

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Speaker 10: point three percents. That's continue to trend downwards over the

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Speaker 10: past six months as he has retail spinning generally, but

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Speaker 10: we have seen that lift in June, which is nice.

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Speaker 10: Also perhaps more relief on the horizon for the economy.

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Speaker 10: Again related back to interest rates, so we spec to

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Speaker 10: point out that half of all mortgages up for refixing

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Speaker 10: over the next six months, and obviously many boroughs will

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Speaker 10: be able to lock in rates perps up to two

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Speaker 10: percent lower than they were a year ago, so that

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Speaker 10: should help a bit more of a recovery and spending

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Speaker 10: fingers crossed, hopefully a tonic for the economy.

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Speaker 3: What do you reckon about China's economy what you see there?

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Speaker 10: Well, obviously very important to us, are our biggest customer,

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Speaker 10: so we've got some GDP data out there today, but

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Speaker 10: before that, we've had some trade data abou a very

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Speaker 10: so exports there they were at five point eight percent

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Speaker 3: Good stuff, Greg, really appreciate it and enjoy your morning.

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Speaker 3: Right, So, Donald Trump, what is announced for his big

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Speaker 3: So the revival of big time movies and characters continues

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Speaker 3: Ron Cat in the Hat?

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Speaker 3: Togs dead be They have got some fantastic news about

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Speaker 3: the avocado industry. Avocado industry, if you've been following it,

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Speaker 3: But this year they've just been fantastic the whole way through.

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Speaker 3: And that's not the kind of thing to anyone wants

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Speaker 14: Well, it's very important in terms of I'm talking about

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Speaker 14: Well that's where the government as the Major Events Fund,

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Speaker 3: I love here. I want things to do as well.

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Speaker 3: So me and listen. Put your Minister for Heal's cap

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Speaker 14: Look we're in a very busy time of winter.

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Speaker 14: are also in the middle of winter. It is a

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Speaker 14: challenging time for our health system, and our doctors and

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Speaker 14: nurses are working incredibly hard to manage that demand. We

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Speaker 14: are continuing to continuing to focus on that frontline resource

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Speaker 14: to make sure that we can manage that demand and

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Speaker 14: ensure that patients can get the timely in quality care.

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Speaker 14: And as I've been talking about recently, one of the

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Speaker 14: things to keep make sure that we're able to manage

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Speaker 14: that demand in particularly winter times is actually managing capacity

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Speaker 14: across the public and private systems so that we're actually

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Speaker 14: able to continue to see get patients being seen.

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Speaker 15: Thank you.

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Speaker 14: So that's really important, particularly when often when when hospitals

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Speaker 14: are busy, such as as this time of year, those

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Speaker 14: planned care procedures, those hip knee cataract operations, they get

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Speaker 14: postponed or canceled cancer in favor of acute care. So

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Speaker 14: we have to manage that.

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Speaker 1: To me, we're talking.

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Speaker 3: I appreciate what you say that we are talking about

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Speaker 3: Edie at the minute. But listen, you go and enjoy

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Speaker 3: your morning. Appreciate your time, Simme and Brown, Minister for Auckland. Yes,

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Speaker 3: Heather on the AVOs, I was just thinking the same

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Speaker 3: thing myself at the weekend. Right, Let's go off to

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Speaker 3: Paris next seventeen to two.

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Speaker 3: me back. Fourteen away from seven.

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Speaker 3: By Catherine Field, our France correspondent. Hi Catherine, and good

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Speaker 3: morning Heather. All right, So what's the plan? How is

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Speaker 3: Europe going to deal with these thirty percent tariffs?

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Speaker 18: Good question and they still haven't come up with an answer.

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Speaker 18: EU Trade commissioners were meeting today in Brussels. Essentially they

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Speaker 18: at the moment, they're talking tough, they're talking surprise. The

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Speaker 18: Trade Commissioner said that any tariff for long thirty percent

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Speaker 18: would make transadantic trade almost impossible, saying obvious things completely unacceptable,

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Speaker 18: and not just the fact of how it was presented

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Speaker 18: to them by the latter on social media, but also

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Speaker 18: the EU did have negotiators over in the US for

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Speaker 18: the last couple of weeks. They thought that the deal

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Speaker 18: was within reach and suddenly, bam, over the weekend this

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Speaker 18: came along. What they're trying to do, is it trying

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Speaker 18: to sort of collaborate, calibrate some sort of response. Do

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Speaker 18: they get tough, are they sort of knives you know, conciliatory?

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Speaker 1: And it depends really.

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Speaker 18: On who listened to as to which way they're going

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Speaker 18: to go. Heather, on the one hand, you've got French

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Speaker 18: President Emanuel Macran, who who's sort of more in these

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Speaker 18: sort of Bazooka type response, saying that the Commission, the

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Speaker 18: European Commission, has to stand up, be determined, defend European interests.

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Speaker 18: You've got the German chanslating, well, let's not rock the

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Speaker 18: BoatUS yet, Let's wait and see what happens. By the

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Speaker 18: first of August, Trump might change his mind and then

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Speaker 18: you've got the Spanish Trade minister who says, well, you know,

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Speaker 18: let's just not be too confrontational. But either way, they

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Speaker 18: are running around hoping against hope that this is going

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Speaker 18: to be another one of Donald Trump's letters that he

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Speaker 18: fires off, and then in the meantime they'll keep negotiating,

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Speaker 18: but knowing full well that there are trillions of New

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Speaker 18: Zealand dollars worth of trade at risk if this goes ahead.

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Speaker 3: Do you think that Trump will be pleased to see

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Speaker 3: the increased military spending at the very least.

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Speaker 18: At the very least, yes, I mean, let's not forget

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Speaker 18: about that. What has been seen as a rather disastrous

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Speaker 18: NATO summit at the Hague a couple of weeks ago,

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Speaker 18: when NATO managed to get all its members to a

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Speaker 18: grade of five percent spending by twenty thirty. Well, we've

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Speaker 18: already seen just in the last couple of days the

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Speaker 18: French president Arena, and additional just over twelve and a

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Speaker 18: half billion New Zealand dollars and extra military spending. Now

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Speaker 18: that's going to come in over the next two years,

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Speaker 18: so that's three years early. He will of course be

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Speaker 18: pleased about seeing that. We've also seen the Germans put

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Speaker 18: up more money. But I think there's more to it

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Speaker 18: than that hand. I mean what we've been hearing not

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Speaker 18: just from the French President of Crime, but also from

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Speaker 18: the German Defense ministry saying that you know that it

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Speaker 18: is the end of this if you like the Cold War,

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Speaker 18: the end of the Cold War when everyone was sort

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Speaker 18: of disarming, that there is now a threat, and we're

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Speaker 18: hearing there's sorts of words I didn't think i'd ever hear,

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Speaker 18: but you hear about them saying that peace has never

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Speaker 18: been so threatened in Europe as it is now, that

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Speaker 18: this type of re engagement on the military has to

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Speaker 18: come because there is long term risks at stake here,

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Speaker 18: and that means you know, of course, Vladimir Putin has

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Speaker 18: said that France is his longest biggest enemy. So yeah,

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Speaker 18: on the one hand, Trump, we'll see, Yeah, this extra

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Speaker 18: spending is good. On the other hand, the threat is there.

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Speaker 18: It is really there, and it's not just that military searcher.

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Speaker 18: We're hearing more and more this the information the cyber

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Speaker 18: war that we're getting from the Russians. It is constantly

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Speaker 18: bombarding European society. So you try might be pleased, but

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Speaker 18: these measures are now being put in place, extra spending,

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Speaker 18: extra manpower, because that's now considered it's needed.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's completely necessary. Casterine, look after yourself. Thank you,

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Speaker 3: Catherine Field, France correspondent, and listen back back home here

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Speaker 3: we've been talking about the politics. I have some trepidation,

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Speaker 3: as I imagine you do too. The reason that the

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Speaker 3: politics were wound up and put into Tippoo Kinger was

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Speaker 3: at least in part because they weren't doing that well financially.

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Speaker 3: I don't think it was a great idea, you know,

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Speaker 3: to pookinga. But the problem, the status quo wasn't great.

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Speaker 3: Now we're going back to the status quad. We're going

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Speaker 3: to talk to Nelson Marlborough Institute of Technology after seven.

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Speaker 3: They can correct me if I'm wrong, but I think

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Speaker 3: out of the last eight years they had seven deficits,

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Speaker 3: which isn't great. So we'll ask them how they avoid

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Speaker 3: the same situation if we're going back to that. Nine

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Speaker 3: away from seven.

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Speaker 2: Heather Dupercy Allen on the my casking Breakfast with Bailey's

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Speaker 2: Real Estate News Dogs.

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Speaker 3: They'd be morning, Heather. We were in Middlemore A and

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Speaker 3: E last night. Two hundred patients were waiting. Only two

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Speaker 3: doctors were available, was around a six hour wait, which

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Speaker 3: is just oh horrific, horrific to spend your evening like that. Actually,

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Speaker 3: a friend of mine. Funnily enough, I didn't even think

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Speaker 3: about this friend of mine. It was playing hockey yesterday.

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Speaker 3: She text me at twenty past three this morning. She said,

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Speaker 3: you're the only person I know who'll be awake right now.

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Speaker 3: She said, do you remember blah blah when we were

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Speaker 3: young and we were drunk and blah blah? And she

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Speaker 3: told me, said, never mind, you don't need that story.

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Speaker 3: But anyway, she had been playing hockey last night. Friend

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Speaker 3: had been one of the one of the team members

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Speaker 3: had been clobbed with a ball or something like that

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Speaker 3: needed stitches. Took it to the A and E. Got

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Speaker 3: clobbed at eight thirty, got the stitches at one thirty,

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Speaker 3: got home at twenty past three or something like that.

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Speaker 3: So everybody was out at it. It was the place

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Speaker 3: to be, A and E five away from seven.

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Speaker 1: Well, the ins and the outs.

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Speaker 2: It's the fizz with business fiber, take your business productivity

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Speaker 2: to the next level.

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Speaker 3: Grocery supplier costs increased in the month of June, according

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Speaker 3: to Infometrics food Stuff's New Zealand Grocery supplier cost Index,

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Speaker 3: but it is not out of line with what you

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Speaker 3: might expect for winter. The data show an average two

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Speaker 3: point one percent increase in what suppliers charged compared to

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Speaker 3: June of last year. Higher dairy costs, yep, they led

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Speaker 3: the way for a lot of the price increases. The

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Speaker 3: average chilled food supplier cost was up four point three percent,

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Speaker 3: which is the highest since mid twenty twenty three. Frozen

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Speaker 3: food costs were up two percent. That's compared to just

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Speaker 3: zero point six percent in May, and that's thanks to

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Speaker 3: the fact that we were buying more pastries and desserts

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Speaker 3: from the frozen section of one goes in your pastries

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Speaker 3: is and desserts. That's right, your dairy, chocolate items noodle

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Speaker 3: costs are also up. So despite the price of dairy

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Speaker 3: and koco at the moment, we still cannot get enough

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Speaker 3: of the chocolate. Month or month. Nearly four thy six

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Speaker 3: hundred products increased in costs, which is again the highly

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Speaker 3: highest monthly talent tally since mid twenty twenty three. But

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Speaker 3: you can kind of offset it by the fact that

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Speaker 3: the month of June had more mondays which is when

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Speaker 3: the cost changes generally come into effect. How about that

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Speaker 3: now Over in Australia, I don't know if you're aware

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Speaker 3: of this, but over in Australia there's been something of

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Speaker 3: quite the national debate about the German backpacker who got

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Speaker 3: lost in the outback and then got rescued after twelve days,

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Speaker 3: and everybody wanted to know, well, why do you leave

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Speaker 3: your car because your car had water in it, and

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Speaker 3: your car had food in it, and your car had

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Speaker 3: clothes in it, all of which you need to be

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Speaker 3: able to survive in the outback. She has now spoken

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Speaker 3: to media from her hospital bed in Perth and has

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Speaker 3: actually answered that question. She says, what happened She had

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Speaker 3: a crash. I think the car fell down a bank

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Speaker 3: or something like that. Anyway, in the crash, got herself

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Speaker 3: a head knock, was a little bit do lally, and

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Speaker 3: in the state of confusion from the head knock, she

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Speaker 3: walked away from her car and then by the time

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Speaker 3: she came to had no idea where the car was now.

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Speaker 3: She was last seen June twenty ninth on the CCTV

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Speaker 3: Gone since then. Then. She was found Friday wandering out

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Speaker 3: in the outback woman was driving on a remote road

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Speaker 3: about twenty k's from her own home. Just saw a

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Speaker 3: young woman walk out on the road waving her arms.

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Speaker 3: Picked her up. The woman was pretty thin, was pretty

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Speaker 3: cut up, like as in fragile, emotionally crying and stuff

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Speaker 3: like that. Took at a hospital. She's still in hospital.

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Speaker 3: Actually looking pretty good for somebody who's been out in

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Speaker 3: the wild for two weeks. Little bit, And this will

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Speaker 3: not surprise you, little bit sunburnt. Right, let's deal with

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Speaker 3: the polytechs next, and then after that is potent gonna

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Speaker 3: pull his head and now that Trump has threatened AM

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Speaker 3: News Talk Zbat.

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Speaker 2: The Breakfast show, Kiwi's trust to stay in the nome

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Speaker 2: Keatha duper see Ellen on the Mic Hosking Breakfast, Bailey's

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Speaker 2: real estate all together better across residential, commercial and rural

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Speaker 2: news talks.

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Speaker 1: That'd be good morning.

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Speaker 3: We're doing a massive U turn on the polytechs. They

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Speaker 3: were all merged into the single outfit tepou king under

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Speaker 3: the last government and then are being unwhelmed again and

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Speaker 3: ten of them are going to go back to so

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Speaker 3: called regional governance now. Olivia Hall is the executive director

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Speaker 3: of Nelson Marlborough Institute of Technology and with us. Morning, Olivia,

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Speaker 3: good morning, you must welcome this.

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Speaker 16: Oh yes, Look, our regents had faced some hard times

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Speaker 16: with the rain, so it was great to have some

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Speaker 16: good news this week.

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Speaker 3: Aren't we going to run into, potentially though, the same

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Speaker 3: troubles that we had beforehand, which is, you know, the

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Speaker 3: financial troubles that the polytechs were having.

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Speaker 16: Look, that's the challenge facing us at MT. We've been

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Speaker 16: able to get We've had a long history of being

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Speaker 16: quite successful financially, so we have some of the knowledge

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Speaker 16: and how to get back to quite efficiently meeting the

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Speaker 16: needs of our community and being able to be successful

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Speaker 16: financially through that.

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Speaker 3: I was under the impression, Olivia, correct me if I'm wrong,

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Speaker 3: but I was under the impression you guys were running

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Speaker 3: about seven deficits out of the last eight years we were.

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Speaker 16: We were part of the responding to the changes post

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Speaker 16: COVID has been part of the issues. Look, we were

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Speaker 16: really invested in the move to te Pekinger and and

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Speaker 16: wholeheartedly put ourself forward for the changes there. But as

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Speaker 16: soon as the announcement was made around the potential to

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Speaker 16: be standalone or federated, our community and our industries were

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Speaker 16: really clear on where they expected an MIT to be,

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Speaker 16: which was to be standalone, so we focused very strongly

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Speaker 16: on there and worked really hard to be in the position.

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Speaker 3: So we are Olivia, how are you guys going to

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Speaker 3: avoid not running more deficits? What have you changed?

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Speaker 16: So we are lucky enough. Our programs that we run,

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Speaker 16: we run quite a tight stopping and starting a programs

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Speaker 16: and been very lean on all of our support functions

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Speaker 16: with quite a small politech, so any excess we'll hit

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Speaker 16: our bottom line. So we're pleased to say that we

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Speaker 16: will have a surplus this year for the first time

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Speaker 16: in quite a long time. As you've touched on, but

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Speaker 16: it is around being efficient, being a very lean structure,

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Speaker 16: and focusing very strongly on our learners and the teachers

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Speaker 16: that teach to them.

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Speaker 3: Good luck with that, Olivia, Thanks for your time. Olivia Hall,

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Speaker 3: Executive director of Nelson Marlborough Institute of Technology, ten past seven.

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Speaker 1: Ever for sel So.

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Speaker 3: Donald Trump has announced his big move against Russia Putin.

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Speaker 3: He's given Putin fifty days to end the war or

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Speaker 3: he's going to hit Pusan with tariffs, and then any

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Speaker 3: country trading with Russia will be here with secondary tariffs

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Speaker 3: up to one hundred percent. Also, Donald Trump has given

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Speaker 3: the ok for offensive weapons to be given to Ukraine.

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Speaker 3: Robert Patman is an international relations expert at Otago University,

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Speaker 3: Mourning Robert morning Heller, is this going to make a difference.

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Speaker 19: I think it will make a big difference to them

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Speaker 19: raw the Ukrainians. But I think it will make a

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Speaker 19: difference because the onus is on speed, amongst other things.

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Speaker 19: Mister Trump, who met with the NATO Sectary General Mark Ruter,

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Speaker 19: confirmed there's an arrangement where the America where the Europeans

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Speaker 19: will immediately transfer about seventeen Patriot These are defensive anti

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Speaker 19: missile systems. These will be transferred quickly to the Ukrainians,

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Speaker 19: possibly through Germany, and those replacements will the Europeans will

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Speaker 19: be backfilled, as the Americans call it, by American equipment,

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Speaker 19: and the Europeans are paying for this. Yeah, and the

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Speaker 19: Europeans are really keen to give the Ukraine's much greater resilience,

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Speaker 19: both from the threat from the Skies but also on

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Speaker 19: the ground. I didn't pick up the point that you

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Speaker 19: made about offensive equipment. So far, much of it has

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Speaker 19: been characterized as the defensive, defensive.

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Speaker 3: Do you think fifty days is too long a lead

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Speaker 3: in time and then that gives Poosian heaps of times

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Speaker 3: to just go really hard on Ukraine or Stall.

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Speaker 15: Yes, I do.

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Speaker 19: I think it's far too late, and you know time

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Speaker 19: is vital in this situation. But it may mean that

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Speaker 19: Germany in particular is prepared to make offensive weaponry available.

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Speaker 19: And there's no doubt about it. The Ukrainians are striking

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Speaker 19: through drones largely multiple sites in Russia, and there are

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Speaker 19: clear signs of concern now in the Kremlin about what

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Speaker 19: has been a tremendous u turn by Trump.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so all in all, all in all, do you

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Speaker 3: think this might give Trump Putin rather pause to rethink

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Speaker 3: this war.

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Speaker 19: I don't think he can. He faces tough options. He

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Speaker 19: can't given the casualties Russia. Russia's sustained more than a

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Speaker 19: million casualties trying to invade a neighbor. If he whipped

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Speaker 19: draws and his authority regime will probably be overthrown. So

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Speaker 19: he's got to hang in there and hope that his

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Speaker 19: perseverance will pay off and the Europeans will get demoralized

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Speaker 19: and mister Trump will gain change his mind. He is

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Speaker 19: capable of changing his minds.

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Speaker 3: Most likely way this plays out in your mind, Robert.

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Speaker 19: I have always thought that Ukraine will gain the upper

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Speaker 19: hand as time goes on, because small powers, which are

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Speaker 19: determined to defend their own territory can defeat bigger ones.

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Speaker 19: We only have to think of Vietnam, the Soviet Union, Afghanistan,

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Speaker 19: and of course the US in the Iraq. Great powers

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Speaker 19: can be defeated by smaller ones, and I don't think

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Speaker 19: this will be an exception in the.

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Speaker 1: Long run, Robert.

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Speaker 3: Thanks for you expertise. Robert Patman, sort of international relations

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Speaker 3: at Otago University.

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Speaker 1: Ever do to see her.

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Speaker 3: I'm in Australia at the moment. My sister's husband has

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Speaker 3: just been in hospital over here with pneumonia. I just

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Speaker 3: thought i'd let you know that the health system here

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Speaker 3: in Australia is no better, if not worse, ramping for

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Speaker 3: hours at hospital. Not him, but others are ramped. He

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Speaker 3: was in a and e for two nights. Jay's waiting

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Speaker 3: for a ward bed in ward for two days and

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Speaker 3: then same time. It's not all roses and honey in Australia.

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Speaker 3: Thank you for letting us know. I guess they have

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Speaker 3: winter two just like we do. Do you know what's weird?

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Speaker 3: I think this is weird. What is weird is how weird?

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Speaker 3: Judith Collins as being about that satellite that went missing.

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Speaker 3: Now you know what I'm talking about, right, This happened

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Speaker 3: a couple of weeks ago, a couple of three weeks

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Speaker 3: ago or something like that. The methane satellite, the one

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Speaker 3: that we're pumped about, I think about twenty nine to

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Speaker 3: thirty two million or something like that into it went up.

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Speaker 3: It was supposed to measure all the methane nark on,

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Speaker 3: the nark on all the oil fields and the gas

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Speaker 3: fields and stuff that are leaking gas and blah blah blah. Anyway,

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Speaker 3: it's spun off into space and no one knows where

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Speaker 3: it is. And I would have thought, well there that

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Speaker 3: that thus ends the story, doesn't it. You've seen something

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Speaker 3: into space, there is a chance that it will float off.

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Speaker 3: Space is a big place. But now Judith Collins doesn't

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Speaker 3: want to answer any questions about this, and of course

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Speaker 3: we have questions, rightly so, because there's you know, tens

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Speaker 3: of millions of taxpayer dollars that have been put into it.

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Speaker 3: She repeatedly refuses to answer questions. Has referred all questions,

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Speaker 3: including questions about whether the government will hold a review,

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Speaker 3: to the Ministry for Business, Innovation and Employment, which is

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Speaker 3: where the Space Agency is housed. Now that's one way

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Speaker 3: to make you wonder what's going on here, isn't it?

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Speaker 3: If the minister won't answer questions, all of a sudden,

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Speaker 3: you go, is there a mystery I should be interested in?

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Speaker 13: Now?

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Speaker 11: It's your classic alien cover up, isn't it.

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Speaker 3: If this was Donald Trump's America, they'd be all over

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Speaker 3: it like a rash over the Epstein files. I am

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Speaker 3: now fascinated, and now I actually want the questions to

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Speaker 3: be answered, and I didn't before. So that's backfiring spectacularly.

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Speaker 2: Quarter past the mic Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on

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Speaker 2: iHeartRadio Howard by Newstalk.

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Speaker 3: There is a little bit of drama brewing over speed

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Speaker 3: limits and one of the councils. I'm going to run

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Speaker 3: you through that before the end of this hour. It's

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Speaker 3: eighteen past seven. Now it looks like the avocado industry

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Speaker 3: is bouncing back from a few tough years. Rabobanks just

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Speaker 3: got a report out. It shows an increase of around

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Speaker 3: two million trays for the twenty four to twenty five

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Speaker 3: season compared to the previous season. Brad Siebert is New

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Speaker 3: Zealand Avocado CEO and is with us morning. Brad Moryan, Hell,

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Speaker 3: are you feeling optimistic?

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Speaker 20: We are, and we've got I guess all the ingredients

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Speaker 20: there for a better season ahead. So the optimism is

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Speaker 20: probably the word i'd use.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, what are the other ingredients?

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Speaker 20: We've had some better growing conditions. Obviously a couple of

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Speaker 20: storms in the last few years have already dampened some

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Speaker 20: of that optimism and some of our export volumes and

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Speaker 20: the returns for growth. So better growing conditions and hopefully

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Speaker 20: an expanded market, global market.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Have you managed to replace the crops that were lost

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Speaker 3: in cyclone Gabriel a couple of years ago.

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Speaker 20: Yeah, I mean individual grows are impacted differently, and some

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Speaker 20: it's the crop that's impacted versus the trees themselves. Often

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Speaker 20: so those are bounced back and growth of the opportunity

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Speaker 20: if they look after their crop to get a good volume.

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Speaker 3: Why is the export price still as low as.

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Speaker 1: It is.

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Speaker 20: Global competition? It's purely that we've got over thirty countries

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Speaker 20: now producing avocados. We've got a bit of a unique

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Speaker 20: window off season to many of our offshore competitors, but

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Speaker 20: we still compete with the likes of Peru and some

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Speaker 20: other large producers in some of our key markets.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, do you think that that's the foreseeable future? Is

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Speaker 3: it going to be depressed by that competition?

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Speaker 20: Well, the world's growing avocados, but we grow the best avocados,

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Speaker 20: So we're trying to differentiate ourselves and really make sure

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Speaker 20: that people understand that there's something unique about New Zealand.

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Speaker 3: Right, tell me what's going on. I noticed this year

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Speaker 3: for I think I think the fo year that I

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Speaker 3: can really remember that we have had avocados on the

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Speaker 3: shelf all year in New Zealand and they haven't been crappy.

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Speaker 3: That actually been quite good. What's going on?

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Speaker 20: I agree it's exciting for consumers and we need more

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Speaker 20: people eating avocados in New Zealand to really support our growths.

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Speaker 20: But we harvest for over ten months of the year.

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Speaker 20: We're a unique crop in that way. We're able to

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Speaker 20: do that. We don't import avocados, soy avocado purchase is

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Speaker 20: from one of our growers, so we have extended our

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Speaker 20: harvest window to meet export demand. By doing so, it's

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Speaker 20: allowed us to keep fruit on the shelf.

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Speaker 3: Great, okay, so I can look forward to this for

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Speaker 3: coming years. What are you doing with your avocado? I'm

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Speaker 3: still just doing the average to the old classic avocado

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Speaker 3: on toast. What funky things are you doing?

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Speaker 20: You can't be avocado on toast, but I mean a

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Speaker 20: tagline of ours is amazing anytime, meaning breakfast, lunch or dinner.

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Speaker 20: You can add it into your smoothie for lunch and

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Speaker 20: have a pretty amazing biogle with it.

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Speaker 1: Is well, so.

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Speaker 3: There is a staff got on your Brad. Appreciate that,

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Speaker 3: Brad Seabert, New Zealand of Accado CEO Ray Chung, Ray Chung,

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Speaker 3: this is oh Lord, Wellington City Council. I feel like

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Speaker 3: that every time. I just pinch the bridge of my

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Speaker 3: nose and feel aggrieved. Ray Chung has been on stage

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Speaker 3: last night. He's been complaining. He thinks he's the victim

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Speaker 3: of a political attack because of the Tory Fano email.

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Speaker 3: Let's deal with that. Next seven twenty.

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Speaker 2: One, The Mike Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio

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Speaker 3: Seb Heather, what you want to do is you want

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Speaker 3: to get your avocado and you want to mash it

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Speaker 3: with boil or baked komita yum. Do you know what

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Speaker 3: that is? Food that's good for a baby and for

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Speaker 3: an adult at the same time. You can do solids

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Speaker 3: with your baby on that one. Thanks for the tip.

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Speaker 3: I should be doing it. Seven twenty four. Ray Chung

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Speaker 3: is right that email has been released to undermine his campaign.

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Speaker 3: That is not a conspiracy theory. That is a fact.

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Speaker 3: We know that because the email was released by Tory

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Speaker 3: Farno herself, the subject of the email. She released it

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Speaker 3: to the Herald so that we could all read about it.

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Speaker 3: And Andrew Little was then in that story. He spoke

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Speaker 3: to the Herald for the original story so that he

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Speaker 3: could slam Ray Chung, his mayoral opponent, and we could

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Speaker 3: all read about it. So totally, Ray Chung is right.

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Speaker 3: He is, as he said on the stage last night,

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Speaker 3: the victim of a blatant political attack. But that's his fault.

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Speaker 3: There's no one else's fault but raise because there wouldn't

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Speaker 3: be an email undermining his campaign if he hadn't sent

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Speaker 3: the email in the first place. And actually, I think

873
00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:30,720
Speaker 3: it is in the best interests of everyone who's voting

874
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Speaker 3: in the Wellington elections. This year that that email has

875
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Speaker 3: been released so that Wellingtonians can understand the character of

876
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Speaker 3: the people that they are voting for. I am surprised

877
00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:42,360
Speaker 3: that there are professional adults out there who think it

878
00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:44,120
Speaker 3: is a good idea to send an email like that

879
00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:48,000
Speaker 3: in which you basically defame a colleague. This went beyond gossip,

880
00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:50,120
Speaker 3: I mean office gossip. Look, we all know it when

881
00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:51,960
Speaker 3: we see it, we all hear it, we indulge in it,

882
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:55,040
Speaker 3: we shouldn't, But it is quite something else to put

883
00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:57,840
Speaker 3: it in writing and then send it to your colleagues,

884
00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:00,520
Speaker 3: made much worse by the fact that it is not

885
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:06,399
Speaker 3: just gossip, but it is also sexual gossip. Now, Ray

886
00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:09,880
Speaker 3: Chung's campaign, I would say, is over, and instead of

887
00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:12,440
Speaker 3: feeling sorry for himself and wallowing and how bad he

888
00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:14,760
Speaker 3: is being done by other people, he should just consider

889
00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:17,439
Speaker 3: withdrawing from the race at this point. And frankly, every

890
00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:20,360
Speaker 3: Wellington City councilor needs to reflect on this because the

891
00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:22,440
Speaker 3: fact that this kind of email could be sent to

892
00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:26,080
Speaker 3: colleagues who then passed it around until it reached Tory

893
00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:27,920
Speaker 3: Fano and the media says to me that there is

894
00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:31,759
Speaker 3: a deeply dysfunctional culture in that place. No one comes

895
00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:34,239
Speaker 3: out of this looking good, least of all, Ray Chung,

896
00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:37,280
Speaker 3: Heather do for see, Allen, we've got the pass results,

897
00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:40,920
Speaker 3: the pass rates for the NCEEA Co Requisite exam. Now

898
00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:42,920
Speaker 3: you'll know this if you've got kids of the sage, right,

899
00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:45,359
Speaker 3: if they're doing the NCEEA, they have to now pass

900
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:48,960
Speaker 3: this exam, this corequisite. It's compulsory in order to be

901
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:51,000
Speaker 3: able to get the level one or the Level two

902
00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:52,920
Speaker 3: or the level three. Man alive. Let me tell you

903
00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:56,360
Speaker 3: the numbers are better, but holy heck, they're not that flash,

904
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Speaker 3: are they. I Mean, look at this, for example, numerousy wee.

905
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Speaker 3: Last year we had forty five percent of the kids

906
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Speaker 3: passing the maths. Now, thank god, we've got fifty seven percent.

907
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Speaker 3: Fifty seven percent though, that's not flash. And then it's

908
00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:11,400
Speaker 3: even worse when you have a look in the lower

909
00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:15,600
Speaker 3: decile schools, thirty four percent of those kids are passing it. Anyway,

910
00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:17,799
Speaker 3: Erica Stanford's going to be with us after the news

911
00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:19,799
Speaker 3: explained to us why it is. I mean, we can

912
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:22,319
Speaker 3: kind of figure out probably why things are getting better,

913
00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:23,960
Speaker 3: which is that the screws are being put on the

914
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Speaker 3: educators and the expectation is that the kids start passing,

915
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:31,920
Speaker 3: but why it's so slow now. Yesterday on the program,

916
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Speaker 3: we talked about that little weird scrum thing that South

917
00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:37,319
Speaker 3: Africa did against Italy at the start of the game.

918
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Speaker 3: You know, the one where where they took the kickoff

919
00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:41,960
Speaker 3: and then instead of actually just doing the proper job

920
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:43,880
Speaker 3: that we used to want to, they basically put them out,

921
00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:46,200
Speaker 3: grabbed it themselves, put themselves off side, force to scrum

922
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Speaker 3: and then try to win the scrum. Might not actually

923
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Speaker 3: be allowed to do that because you can see that

924
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Speaker 3: it technically can work, but it is A player is

925
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Speaker 3: not allowed to intentionally infringe on any law of the

926
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Speaker 3: game under section nine point seven of the law book. Anyway,

927
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Speaker 3: Mike Kron, the legendary scrum coach, is going to be

928
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Speaker 3: with us after eight o'clock, so we have a little

929
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Speaker 3: chat because Raisin doesn't mind this. You'll see what Mike

930
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Speaker 3: Kron thinks about it. News is Next.

931
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Speaker 2: Your source of breaking news, challenging opinion, and honest facts

932
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Speaker 2: and the duper See Ellen on the Mic Hosking Breakfast

933
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Speaker 2: with a Vita, Retirement, Communities, Life your Way, News, togs

934
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Speaker 2: Head be.

935
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Speaker 3: Tell you what I've been following kind of with a

936
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Speaker 3: little bit of interest is the case of Greg Wallace,

937
00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:41,360
Speaker 3: the former host of Master Chef in the in the

938
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Speaker 3: UK who's been sacked. He's the one who who stood

939
00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:45,920
Speaker 3: inside outside his dressing room with the sock on his

940
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:48,200
Speaker 3: willy you know, and shouted who anyway and all kinds

941
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Speaker 3: of behavior like that and then got fired as a result.

942
00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:52,560
Speaker 3: He's not shutting up. I would have set to him

943
00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:56,040
Speaker 3: a long time ago, shut up, go away, maybe think

944
00:45:56,120 --> 00:45:57,960
Speaker 3: maybe you can come back in a decade or so.

945
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Speaker 3: But he absolutely is not. Now he's done. What he's

946
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:02,520
Speaker 3: doing is he's blaming his behavior on the fact that

947
00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:05,200
Speaker 3: he's a working class man with a direct manner. Speak

948
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Speaker 3: to Rod a little about that around about an hour's time.

949
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Speaker 3: It's twenty two away from eight. That's so we've got

950
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Speaker 3: the NCA corequisite pass rates from last year. They're still

951
00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:17,439
Speaker 3: a little bit better, or they are a little bit better,

952
00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:20,040
Speaker 3: but they're still not flash. These are the exams, by

953
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Speaker 3: the way, that students must pass in order to win

954
00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:26,280
Speaker 3: to pass their year level. Last year, fifty seven percent

955
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Speaker 3: of students past maths that's up from forty five percent,

956
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Speaker 3: sixty one past reading that's up from fifty eight percent,

957
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Speaker 3: and fifty writing Stade roughly the same fifty five percent.

958
00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:39,279
Speaker 3: Eric of Stanford is the Education Minister morning Erica coome

959
00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:41,560
Speaker 3: on a What do you reckon is causing this improvement?

960
00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:46,960
Speaker 21: Well, we've got a real focus on teaching the basics brilliantly.

961
00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:51,000
Speaker 21: These are the basics, and I've asked schools to make

962
00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:53,759
Speaker 21: sure that they're focusing on those basics an hour a day,

963
00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:56,560
Speaker 21: getting rid of cell phones, making sure that we're teaching

964
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Speaker 21: a world leading curriculum. We did put a bit of

965
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Speaker 21: funding in last year to help schools those schools that

966
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Speaker 21: we identified with the greatest number of students who needed support.

967
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Speaker 21: But really this has been schools and principles and teachers

968
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Speaker 21: who have really done some huge heavy lifting in the

969
00:47:12,160 --> 00:47:14,080
Speaker 21: last year to get these kids across the line. And

970
00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:16,920
Speaker 21: I know that the results are still I've got a

971
00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:21,160
Speaker 21: long way to go, but man, those maths results have skyrocketed,

972
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Speaker 21: and I'm extraordinarily proud of our teachers for the work

973
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Speaker 21: they've done and the kids for the work they've put on.

974
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Speaker 3: The teaching the basics brilliantly. Thing is a fair point,

975
00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:28,840
Speaker 3: but that is really a primary school, isn't it. And

976
00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:31,000
Speaker 3: there hasn't been enough time for this to filter through

977
00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:33,160
Speaker 3: all the way to the upper levels of secondary school.

978
00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:35,840
Speaker 3: So is this more likely just an expectation thing and

979
00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:38,080
Speaker 3: are getting used to the corequisite?

980
00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:41,560
Speaker 21: Oh, look, it's probably a little bit. But I think

981
00:47:41,600 --> 00:47:45,480
Speaker 21: the biggest the biggest contributor is the teachers who have

982
00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:47,920
Speaker 21: put in a huge amount of effort. I was chatting

983
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Speaker 21: with some of the members of the Spans Secondary School

984
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:55,319
Speaker 21: Principals Association last night and they said to me, it

985
00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:58,279
Speaker 21: is the teachers who have moved heaven and earth in

986
00:47:58,320 --> 00:48:02,440
Speaker 21: the last year since it's become compulsory. Last year was

987
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Speaker 21: the first year and because of the government's mandate, you know,

988
00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:10,120
Speaker 21: we want everybody to be improving achievement. We are focused

989
00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:13,040
Speaker 21: on literacy and numerous in maths like no government has

990
00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:16,880
Speaker 21: ever been before to this level and they've really up

991
00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:19,360
Speaker 21: their game and that has been made the difference.

992
00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:21,359
Speaker 3: Hey, but what we do, What do we do about

993
00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:24,440
Speaker 3: these lower deaths our schools? Thirty four percent passing maths

994
00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:26,080
Speaker 3: is really quite worrying.

995
00:48:27,160 --> 00:48:29,200
Speaker 21: Well, there's a couple of things. As you've mentioned, our

996
00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:32,880
Speaker 21: focus hugely is on primary and intermediate with our brand

997
00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:36,280
Speaker 21: new year by year knowledge rich curriculum, with our professional

998
00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:38,400
Speaker 21: learning and development. That's going into teachers. The eight hundred

999
00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:41,200
Speaker 21: and sixty thousand maths books and textbooks and workbooks and

1000
00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:44,600
Speaker 21: teacher guides we sent out last year structured literacy being mandated,

1001
00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:47,719
Speaker 21: that will start to filter throw. It's already having results.

1002
00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:50,879
Speaker 21: It will start to filter through. In the meantime, though,

1003
00:48:50,920 --> 00:48:53,919
Speaker 21: I've got this cohort of children who are in upper

1004
00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:56,880
Speaker 21: primary and intermediate, which is why we did the math trial.

1005
00:48:56,880 --> 00:49:00,280
Speaker 21: We did four times a week tutoring of our intermediate kids.

1006
00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:02,960
Speaker 21: Next year that goes out to thirty four thousand kids,

1007
00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:05,320
Speaker 21: so we know we've got this group in the middle.

1008
00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:07,279
Speaker 21: We've got to put a huge amount of resource in.

1009
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Speaker 21: We put that in the budget so we will wrap

1010
00:49:09,719 --> 00:49:13,479
Speaker 21: support around them. Now that low dear soul figure. That's

1011
00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:17,280
Speaker 21: what keeps me going every single day. Those young people

1012
00:49:17,360 --> 00:49:19,719
Speaker 21: need an education to change their lives, and when they

1013
00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:22,280
Speaker 21: walk into their local school, they need to be getting

1014
00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:27,240
Speaker 21: the best education. That's why we're getting this consistency across

1015
00:49:27,239 --> 00:49:29,800
Speaker 21: the board with the curriculum, the way that we teach,

1016
00:49:29,840 --> 00:49:32,759
Speaker 21: the professional learning and development, the resources. Doesn't matter which

1017
00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:36,080
Speaker 21: school you walk into these days, it is the same

1018
00:49:36,320 --> 00:49:38,600
Speaker 21: level of education, and that's what we're focused on those

1019
00:49:38,680 --> 00:49:40,600
Speaker 21: kids to make sure we change their lives.

1020
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Speaker 3: Hey, so about a month ago you hosted Sir Nick

1021
00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:45,480
Speaker 3: Gibb in the country. Now, Surnick Gibb is obviously the

1022
00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:47,640
Speaker 3: chap who turned education around much in the same way

1023
00:49:47,640 --> 00:49:49,239
Speaker 3: as you're trying to do, but for the UK a

1024
00:49:49,239 --> 00:49:51,319
Speaker 3: few you know, a couple of decades back. Did he

1025
00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:53,040
Speaker 3: teach you anything you didn't know.

1026
00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:55,759
Speaker 16: He did?

1027
00:49:55,920 --> 00:49:58,799
Speaker 21: He's been an excellent mentor. Funnily enough, we read the

1028
00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:02,800
Speaker 21: same book on holiday that changed our perspective on education

1029
00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:05,719
Speaker 21: ten years apart. It's called The Schools We Need and

1030
00:50:05,719 --> 00:50:08,120
Speaker 21: Why we Don't Have Them by Edie Hirsh. He's American,

1031
00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:10,520
Speaker 21: he's ninety seven. We both just went to Florida recently

1032
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Speaker 21: to meet him and speak at one of his conferences.

1033
00:50:12,719 --> 00:50:17,760
Speaker 21: Keynoting one of his conferences, the thing that I suppose

1034
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Speaker 21: Nick taught me was that the changes that I'm putting

1035
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Speaker 21: in place, I know will make a difference because they've

1036
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Speaker 21: worked there, they've worked in other countries. But the thing

1037
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Speaker 21: that Nick told me when I talked to him, he

1038
00:50:28,360 --> 00:50:32,600
Speaker 21: said to me, never give up and never compromise. Keep going. Now,

1039
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Speaker 21: I remember a year ago when people were putting a

1040
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Speaker 21: lot of pressure on me to get rid of the

1041
00:50:36,560 --> 00:50:39,400
Speaker 21: correquisites because it was meaning that young people may not

1042
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Speaker 21: get there n CEA, and I held my ground and said, no,

1043
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Speaker 21: we're not lowering the level. We're not getting rid of it.

1044
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Speaker 21: These young people need to be literate and numerate and

1045
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Speaker 21: we will do whatever it takes. And we are doing that.

1046
00:50:51,719 --> 00:50:54,560
Speaker 3: Good stuff. Erica, Thanks for your time, Erica Stanford, Education Minister.

1047
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Speaker 3: If you want to know the name of the book,

1048
00:50:55,640 --> 00:50:58,480
Speaker 3: the book is the schools we need and why we

1049
00:50:58,520 --> 00:51:00,360
Speaker 3: don't have them. I think we're all going to probably

1050
00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:01,840
Speaker 3: go and have a read of that if we have kids.

1051
00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:05,879
Speaker 3: By the way, on the fifty days that Russia has

1052
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Speaker 3: been given by Donald Trump, this gives the Kriminin plenty

1053
00:51:10,760 --> 00:51:13,239
Speaker 3: of time to be able to do whatever it does.

1054
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Speaker 15: Right.

1055
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Speaker 3: This is the argument for fifty days being too long.

1056
00:51:15,880 --> 00:51:17,799
Speaker 3: They can send another at the rate that they're going

1057
00:51:17,840 --> 00:51:19,600
Speaker 3: with the drones and the missiles and stuff, they can

1058
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Speaker 3: send another twenty five thousand drones and missiles into Ukraine

1059
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Speaker 3: in the next fifty days, so possibly a little bit

1060
00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:29,400
Speaker 3: bit of a long runway for Putin. I want to

1061
00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:31,000
Speaker 3: talk to you. Listen, We've got to talk about AI

1062
00:51:31,800 --> 00:51:33,239
Speaker 3: also want to talk to you about something to do

1063
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Speaker 3: with climate change. Next seventeen away.

1064
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Speaker 2: From eight, The Mike Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio.

1065
00:51:40,480 --> 00:51:41,799
Speaker 1: Now ad By News talks at me.

1066
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Speaker 3: The Blues. Remember we started the program talking about the

1067
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Speaker 3: Blues potentially leaving Eden Park going to Mount Smart. We're

1068
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Speaker 3: going to talk to the boss of the Blues before

1069
00:51:50,280 --> 00:51:52,520
Speaker 3: the end of this hour. Right now, it's thirteen away

1070
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Speaker 3: from it. Now, little interesting observation about climate change reporting

1071
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Speaker 3: this morning, Ian Wishart, Remember Ian Wishart. He this is

1072
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Speaker 3: not to beat up on RNZ at all. RNZ is

1073
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Speaker 3: just the example that's being used in this. But he

1074
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Speaker 3: heard an RNZ story about climate change is Radio New

1075
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Speaker 3: Zealand and he didn't like what he heard. He thought

1076
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Speaker 3: it was inaccurate. So he complained to two different watchdogs

1077
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Speaker 3: got completely different outcomes from that complaint. So what the

1078
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Speaker 3: story was, It was about the fact that Hamilton had

1079
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Speaker 3: been having this amazing run of really hot days. It

1080
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Speaker 3: had like maybe about two weeks or something like that

1081
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Speaker 3: of days that had about twenty seven degrees And what

1082
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Speaker 3: the story sets It had a headline along the lines

1083
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Speaker 3: of smashed records, right, and then it quoted a met

1084
00:52:36,040 --> 00:52:39,640
Speaker 3: Service forecaster and climate scientist called Luke Harrington, who said,

1085
00:52:39,920 --> 00:52:43,200
Speaker 3: the last ten days, well actually now eleven have been

1086
00:52:43,239 --> 00:52:47,400
Speaker 3: the hottest continuous ten or eleven day stretch. Certainly of

1087
00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:49,920
Speaker 3: the records that I have available, they go back to

1088
00:52:49,960 --> 00:52:52,640
Speaker 3: sort of the early nineteen nineties, but I think if

1089
00:52:52,640 --> 00:52:55,239
Speaker 3: you went further back in time as well, they'd still

1090
00:52:55,280 --> 00:52:57,560
Speaker 3: remain the worst on record. So the impression that you

1091
00:52:57,600 --> 00:53:00,120
Speaker 3: get from that is geez. Even the experts are saying

1092
00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:03,319
Speaker 3: Hamilton has never been this hot for this long. Well

1093
00:53:03,360 --> 00:53:06,200
Speaker 3: Ian Wushard took issue with that and said, actually, that's

1094
00:53:06,280 --> 00:53:10,400
Speaker 3: not true. Historic newspaper records revealed that Hamilton endured an

1095
00:53:10,440 --> 00:53:16,240
Speaker 3: almost unbroken streak of sixty two days of above twenty

1096
00:53:16,239 --> 00:53:20,719
Speaker 3: seven degrees in the summer of nineteen thirty four thirty five.

1097
00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:25,040
Speaker 3: So he complained to both the BSA Broadcasting Standards Authority

1098
00:53:25,080 --> 00:53:29,240
Speaker 3: and also the Media Council about this. Broadcasting Standards Authority

1099
00:53:29,239 --> 00:53:31,440
Speaker 3: had no issue. They were like, no problem with what

1100
00:53:31,480 --> 00:53:33,920
Speaker 3: aaron Z has said here because there's no breach of

1101
00:53:33,960 --> 00:53:38,600
Speaker 3: the accuracy standard because the language used likely might have

1102
00:53:39,040 --> 00:53:41,560
Speaker 3: probably I think kind of gave them a bit a

1103
00:53:41,560 --> 00:53:43,319
Speaker 3: regal room like they thought it was the case, but

1104
00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:45,280
Speaker 3: not really the case, so they kind of got away

1105
00:53:45,320 --> 00:53:47,520
Speaker 3: with it. So BSA was like, no problem at all.

1106
00:53:47,719 --> 00:53:50,960
Speaker 3: Media Council was a little bit tougher. The Media Council

1107
00:53:51,360 --> 00:53:54,880
Speaker 3: said the website report they didn't mind too much, but

1108
00:53:54,920 --> 00:53:57,759
Speaker 3: it was the headline they took issue with, which was

1109
00:53:58,080 --> 00:54:01,399
Speaker 3: the smashed records thing. They are held it anyway. As

1110
00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:04,120
Speaker 3: a result of that, aren Z had to change the story.

1111
00:54:04,160 --> 00:54:04,279
Speaker 18: Now.

1112
00:54:04,440 --> 00:54:07,719
Speaker 3: It's an interesting observation, isn't it that two different watchdogs

1113
00:54:07,719 --> 00:54:12,040
Speaker 3: will have two completely different ways of interpreting whether something

1114
00:54:12,080 --> 00:54:14,480
Speaker 3: is accurate or not. But also I think it is

1115
00:54:14,560 --> 00:54:18,320
Speaker 3: much a personally. Personally, I find it much more interesting

1116
00:54:18,840 --> 00:54:20,960
Speaker 3: that we are we have experts who are prepared to

1117
00:54:21,040 --> 00:54:24,279
Speaker 3: just sort of declare that something is the worst thing

1118
00:54:24,320 --> 00:54:27,239
Speaker 3: we have ever seen and actually not gone back as

1119
00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:29,360
Speaker 3: far as possible and found out whether it truly is.

1120
00:54:29,360 --> 00:54:31,320
Speaker 3: Because I feel like the nineteen thirty four to thirty

1121
00:54:31,360 --> 00:54:34,640
Speaker 3: five summer completely changes things, don't you think Now I

1122
00:54:34,680 --> 00:54:36,640
Speaker 3: said I was going to talk about AI. I'm probably

1123
00:54:36,680 --> 00:54:38,200
Speaker 3: going to run out, but we need to talk. Have

1124
00:54:38,239 --> 00:54:40,320
Speaker 3: you heard of the Velvet Sundown? Have you heard of them?

1125
00:54:40,440 --> 00:54:42,720
Speaker 3: We're going to talk about that absolutely have to, because

1126
00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:45,280
Speaker 3: if you haven't, this opens up a can of worms

1127
00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:47,400
Speaker 3: when it comes to AI. So hopefully I get a

1128
00:54:47,480 --> 00:54:49,480
Speaker 3: chance to do this very shortly. Right now. Ten away

1129
00:54:49,480 --> 00:54:50,120
Speaker 3: from Ete.

1130
00:54:50,320 --> 00:54:55,080
Speaker 2: Heather Duper see Allen on the mic asking breakfast with Alvida, Retirement,

1131
00:54:55,080 --> 00:54:57,680
Speaker 2: Communities News togs Head be Heather Love.

1132
00:54:57,640 --> 00:54:59,920
Speaker 3: Erica this morning. Since when did you hear a politic

1133
00:55:00,239 --> 00:55:02,520
Speaker 3: talk about the research and the advice that she's got here?

1134
00:55:02,520 --> 00:55:05,120
Speaker 3: That Erica obviously has a huge amount of enthusiasm for

1135
00:55:05,160 --> 00:55:07,760
Speaker 3: a job here, That education is a long term problem.

1136
00:55:08,080 --> 00:55:10,040
Speaker 3: The lift and focus and achievement will be the real

1137
00:55:10,120 --> 00:55:12,760
Speaker 3: legacy of this government. Forget about the niggles about other stuff.

1138
00:55:13,080 --> 00:55:15,759
Speaker 3: Education is the opportunity for all would agree with that.

1139
00:55:15,840 --> 00:55:18,160
Speaker 3: Seven away from eight now the Blues. The Blues are

1140
00:55:18,200 --> 00:55:21,160
Speaker 3: considering ditching Eden Park and playing their games at Mount

1141
00:55:21,160 --> 00:55:23,680
Speaker 3: Smart instead, the start of canvassing the views of fans

1142
00:55:23,719 --> 00:55:26,080
Speaker 3: before they make a call for next season. Andrew Hall

1143
00:55:26,160 --> 00:55:27,640
Speaker 3: is the Blue CEO and with us.

1144
00:55:27,480 --> 00:55:30,040
Speaker 17: Morning Andrew, good morning, how are you today?

1145
00:55:30,080 --> 00:55:32,040
Speaker 3: I'm very well, thank you? Are you? Are you just

1146
00:55:32,239 --> 00:55:34,359
Speaker 3: having a look around or are you serious about this?

1147
00:55:35,840 --> 00:55:40,600
Speaker 17: No, we're serious about having a look around. We over

1148
00:55:40,600 --> 00:55:42,240
Speaker 17: the last few years. I think one of the changes

1149
00:55:42,280 --> 00:55:44,719
Speaker 17: that is happening in rugby is becoming far more fan

1150
00:55:44,840 --> 00:55:48,680
Speaker 17: centric and that's a good thing, right. I heard you

1151
00:55:48,719 --> 00:55:51,839
Speaker 17: one a log there this morning and I agree with

1152
00:55:52,640 --> 00:55:55,240
Speaker 17: a lot of it. And but to be the sport

1153
00:55:55,239 --> 00:55:56,719
Speaker 17: we want to be, we've got to talk to our

1154
00:55:56,719 --> 00:55:59,440
Speaker 17: fans and find out what is going to motivate them.

1155
00:55:59,440 --> 00:56:04,000
Speaker 17: We've seen open broadcast numbers, which is great, and we've

1156
00:56:04,040 --> 00:56:07,920
Speaker 17: seen a slight increase in crowds over the last three years,

1157
00:56:08,280 --> 00:56:10,680
Speaker 17: but we want to accelerate that now. It may not be.

1158
00:56:11,719 --> 00:56:13,759
Speaker 17: It may not be moving from Eden Park that is

1159
00:56:13,760 --> 00:56:15,920
Speaker 17: the answer, but it could be and we've got to

1160
00:56:15,920 --> 00:56:17,080
Speaker 17: investigatile revenues.

1161
00:56:17,239 --> 00:56:19,160
Speaker 3: Have you asked fans why they don't want to come

1162
00:56:19,200 --> 00:56:20,560
Speaker 3: to the park whatever the park is.

1163
00:56:21,719 --> 00:56:24,799
Speaker 17: Yes, yes, we have over the over the years and

1164
00:56:24,880 --> 00:56:28,720
Speaker 17: we do every year our members we have and largely

1165
00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:32,719
Speaker 17: the team results, which which you would argue in the

1166
00:56:32,840 --> 00:56:35,880
Speaker 17: last few years as we've made finals, I mean we

1167
00:56:35,920 --> 00:56:38,120
Speaker 17: sold the final out in three years. I heard You've

1168
00:56:38,120 --> 00:56:40,319
Speaker 17: got to be very careful in a situation like this.

1169
00:56:40,520 --> 00:56:45,080
Speaker 17: It's easy to look at specific fixtures, but the fact

1170
00:56:45,200 --> 00:56:47,520
Speaker 17: is the crowds are that have been on the increase

1171
00:56:47,640 --> 00:56:51,480
Speaker 17: is twenty six thousand there for the Chiefs sold out final.

1172
00:56:52,280 --> 00:56:55,560
Speaker 17: What they're looking for is team performance first and then

1173
00:56:55,640 --> 00:57:01,720
Speaker 17: followed by that match experience. Are food and beverage, sound system,

1174
00:57:02,600 --> 00:57:05,600
Speaker 17: transport are all taken into account and have all been

1175
00:57:05,640 --> 00:57:09,040
Speaker 17: part of the questions that we're asking people to come

1176
00:57:09,080 --> 00:57:09,680
Speaker 17: back to us on.

1177
00:57:10,040 --> 00:57:12,800
Speaker 3: So if you're if you're just serious about looking around,

1178
00:57:13,200 --> 00:57:15,279
Speaker 3: is it wrong for me to deduce that you're doing

1179
00:57:15,320 --> 00:57:17,760
Speaker 3: this actually to pressure Eden Park for a better deal,

1180
00:57:17,960 --> 00:57:19,720
Speaker 3: like you have no plans to move, You just want

1181
00:57:19,720 --> 00:57:21,160
Speaker 3: a better you want to screw a better deal out

1182
00:57:21,160 --> 00:57:21,720
Speaker 3: of them.

1183
00:57:22,600 --> 00:57:27,480
Speaker 17: No, no, no, no, no, We're we're genuinely asking our fans.

1184
00:57:28,200 --> 00:57:30,680
Speaker 17: I just think we've got to be careful that a

1185
00:57:30,760 --> 00:57:34,000
Speaker 17: domestic sport or a club sport isn't trying to solve

1186
00:57:34,960 --> 00:57:41,200
Speaker 17: what is potentially national stadium issues here. And we're we're

1187
00:57:41,200 --> 00:57:45,720
Speaker 17: committed to staying at Eden Park. That's what people deem

1188
00:57:45,800 --> 00:57:49,000
Speaker 17: as important to them. So no, that's not the case. Okay,

1189
00:57:49,000 --> 00:57:51,000
Speaker 17: can I ask ask these questions?

1190
00:57:51,040 --> 00:57:53,440
Speaker 3: Andrew? I got the best idea that I had pitched

1191
00:57:53,480 --> 00:57:55,960
Speaker 3: to me was actually, what you guys should do is

1192
00:57:56,000 --> 00:57:58,880
Speaker 3: take the franchise around the province. Right, So go down

1193
00:57:58,880 --> 00:58:01,080
Speaker 3: to book A Coe playffic you're there, go to Mannedowa

1194
00:58:01,120 --> 00:58:04,200
Speaker 3: player fixture there north Harbor because then it becomes an event.

1195
00:58:05,840 --> 00:58:08,000
Speaker 17: Yeah, and we've played I think last year you've seen

1196
00:58:08,000 --> 00:58:10,560
Speaker 17: we've been to Northland and it was a mate.

1197
00:58:10,600 --> 00:58:11,080
Speaker 20: It was a.

1198
00:58:10,960 --> 00:58:14,600
Speaker 17: Fantastic success, there's no doubt about that. We often we

1199
00:58:14,640 --> 00:58:17,680
Speaker 17: play our pre seasons at Takapoona. We can't play in

1200
00:58:17,680 --> 00:58:19,800
Speaker 17: Poocka Coe because that's actually Chiefs Country.

1201
00:58:20,240 --> 00:58:23,160
Speaker 1: But don't do that.

1202
00:58:23,400 --> 00:58:25,720
Speaker 3: Don't do that to me because I'm from Booker Coe

1203
00:58:25,720 --> 00:58:27,600
Speaker 3: and I thought that I was in Blues country. Are

1204
00:58:27,640 --> 00:58:29,440
Speaker 3: you telling me now because it's switched as.

1205
00:58:29,320 --> 00:58:33,600
Speaker 17: It well yet well technically, but you I'm pleased to

1206
00:58:33,600 --> 00:58:33,920
Speaker 17: hear you.

1207
00:58:34,120 --> 00:58:34,640
Speaker 12: That's good.

1208
00:58:35,040 --> 00:58:38,480
Speaker 17: Yes, you're you're of a generation where we like myself,

1209
00:58:38,520 --> 00:58:41,320
Speaker 17: where we where Counties was part of part of blues

1210
00:58:41,320 --> 00:58:43,840
Speaker 17: and we very much enjoyed that. I'm going to have

1211
00:58:43,840 --> 00:58:48,360
Speaker 17: to swim Jersey now, no chance we'll get a blue

1212
00:58:48,360 --> 00:58:49,800
Speaker 17: one to you. We know you're go under the Eden

1213
00:58:49,840 --> 00:58:50,840
Speaker 17: Park box regularly.

1214
00:58:51,760 --> 00:58:52,000
Speaker 15: It's me.

1215
00:58:52,160 --> 00:58:54,400
Speaker 3: No, I'm Blues all the way, have to be. Andrew,

1216
00:58:54,400 --> 00:58:57,160
Speaker 3: thanks very much, really appreciated Andrew hall Auckland Blue CEO.

1217
00:58:57,800 --> 00:59:00,920
Speaker 3: Lord who knew switched to a.

1218
00:59:01,320 --> 00:59:04,400
Speaker 11: Steelers talk you were doing yesterday? You really should have

1219
00:59:04,440 --> 00:59:04,680
Speaker 11: known that.

1220
00:59:05,040 --> 00:59:05,680
Speaker 3: I should have known.

1221
00:59:05,800 --> 00:59:07,360
Speaker 11: I've been mind you. There are still a lot of

1222
00:59:07,640 --> 00:59:12,760
Speaker 11: Northland supporters who feel more aligned with the Chiefs because

1223
00:59:12,920 --> 00:59:15,640
Speaker 11: it was you know, it used to be wykatover Northland

1224
00:59:16,280 --> 00:59:16,920
Speaker 11: and the middle that.

1225
00:59:17,120 --> 00:59:18,840
Speaker 3: Was the Blue. Where it is you know what it is,

1226
00:59:18,880 --> 00:59:21,840
Speaker 3: where your soul is, you know where your soul believes

1227
00:59:21,880 --> 00:59:24,200
Speaker 3: it belongs rather than and my soul has been with

1228
00:59:24,280 --> 00:59:26,320
Speaker 3: the Blues. I'm just what I'm trying to do right

1229
00:59:26,320 --> 00:59:28,360
Speaker 3: now is just think myself at a giant hole where

1230
00:59:28,360 --> 00:59:30,120
Speaker 3: I didn't realize that being on the border means you

1231
00:59:30,160 --> 00:59:32,960
Speaker 3: just get traded anyway. Listen Mike cron scrum coach with

1232
00:59:33,040 --> 00:59:34,520
Speaker 3: US next News Talks hed B.

1233
00:59:36,960 --> 00:59:39,600
Speaker 1: The News and the Newsmakers.

1234
00:59:39,880 --> 00:59:42,800
Speaker 2: Heather duper c Helen on the Mike asking breakfast with

1235
00:59:42,960 --> 00:59:46,680
Speaker 2: the land Rover discovery, never stop discovering news, togs head b.

1236
00:59:47,800 --> 00:59:48,320
Speaker 4: I've got.

1237
00:59:51,360 --> 00:59:52,360
Speaker 1: At seven passed that now.

1238
00:59:52,400 --> 00:59:55,080
Speaker 3: Whenever there is success at the top level of international

1239
00:59:55,200 --> 00:59:57,360
Speaker 3: rugby in this country, there is more often than not

1240
00:59:57,560 --> 01:00:00,800
Speaker 3: one name involved, and that name is Mike pron a

1241
01:00:00,960 --> 01:00:03,600
Speaker 3: legendary coach. He was known as the Scrum Doctor. He

1242
01:00:03,720 --> 01:00:05,640
Speaker 3: was an assistant coach with the All Blacks for more

1243
01:00:05,680 --> 01:00:09,080
Speaker 3: than two hundred games. He also won the twenty, twenty

1244
01:00:09,120 --> 01:00:11,160
Speaker 3: eleven and twenty fifteen World Cups, or at least helped you.

1245
01:00:11,240 --> 01:00:13,080
Speaker 3: He then came out of retirement to join the Black

1246
01:00:13,120 --> 01:00:15,560
Speaker 3: Ferns in twenty two help them, we'll win a world

1247
01:00:15,640 --> 01:00:17,800
Speaker 3: title too. And now he's with the Wallabies for the

1248
01:00:17,880 --> 01:00:19,560
Speaker 3: last year and a half. In the midst of all

1249
01:00:19,680 --> 01:00:21,480
Speaker 3: of that, he's had time to write a book. It's

1250
01:00:21,520 --> 01:00:24,720
Speaker 3: called Coach Lessons from an All Black Legend and Mike cron.

1251
01:00:24,680 --> 01:00:27,720
Speaker 11: Is with us now morning Mike, good morning, Good morning, Heather.

1252
01:00:28,000 --> 01:00:29,160
Speaker 3: Do you ever think you'd write a book?

1253
01:00:30,000 --> 01:00:34,440
Speaker 15: Never? No, I never thought i'd have anything with what

1254
01:00:35,240 --> 01:00:36,240
Speaker 15: writing about, to be fair.

1255
01:00:36,600 --> 01:00:38,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, And now that you've written it and read it,

1256
01:00:38,440 --> 01:00:38,960
Speaker 3: what do you think.

1257
01:00:40,920 --> 01:00:43,920
Speaker 15: Well, it's quite interesting how much you do atf you forget,

1258
01:00:44,520 --> 01:00:48,200
Speaker 15: you know, I'm seventy now, so over your lifetime you

1259
01:00:49,480 --> 01:00:51,800
Speaker 15: have your memories. But once it's sort of get jogged

1260
01:00:52,240 --> 01:00:53,880
Speaker 15: by my writer and I had to go away and

1261
01:00:53,920 --> 01:00:57,840
Speaker 15: think about things. It's amazing how things do come floating

1262
01:00:57,880 --> 01:00:59,400
Speaker 15: back from the back of the brain to the throne

1263
01:00:59,400 --> 01:01:00,560
Speaker 15: of the brain, so to speak.

1264
01:01:00,920 --> 01:01:03,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, relive it all again. I'll tell you what

1265
01:01:03,160 --> 01:01:06,160
Speaker 3: I found fascinating about reading parts of your book is

1266
01:01:06,200 --> 01:01:08,280
Speaker 3: we got your tips from What made you think that

1267
01:01:08,360 --> 01:01:09,760
Speaker 3: you should go to the ballet.

1268
01:01:12,240 --> 01:01:12,439
Speaker 12: Yeah.

1269
01:01:12,600 --> 01:01:16,280
Speaker 15: Well, to be honest, I've never been really interested in

1270
01:01:16,360 --> 01:01:20,280
Speaker 15: the rugby coaching seminars. They left me a bit blend,

1271
01:01:20,480 --> 01:01:22,520
Speaker 15: so to speak. You know, they just showed you a

1272
01:01:22,600 --> 01:01:27,640
Speaker 15: new drill or something. I always had this thirst for knowledge.

1273
01:01:27,680 --> 01:01:29,960
Speaker 15: Still have to be fair because I know I'm not

1274
01:01:30,040 --> 01:01:33,760
Speaker 15: good enough. I know I've got to get better. So

1275
01:01:34,640 --> 01:01:38,040
Speaker 15: you go to other elite sports. I found so ballet,

1276
01:01:38,160 --> 01:01:42,040
Speaker 15: for instance, they have one of the worst records for

1277
01:01:42,240 --> 01:01:45,680
Speaker 15: injury of what we loosely turned turf toe, which is

1278
01:01:45,720 --> 01:01:48,520
Speaker 15: a problem under your big toe from jumping and landing

1279
01:01:48,560 --> 01:01:50,840
Speaker 15: a lot and where you get it. And rugby quite

1280
01:01:50,880 --> 01:01:54,320
Speaker 15: a bit, particularly in the Southern Hemisphere, from playing on

1281
01:01:54,480 --> 01:01:58,080
Speaker 15: hard services, which we do. So I was interested to

1282
01:01:58,160 --> 01:02:01,520
Speaker 15: see how they handle that, and out of that I

1283
01:02:02,480 --> 01:02:05,800
Speaker 15: found a bit of gold about how they prevent that

1284
01:02:06,120 --> 01:02:08,160
Speaker 15: in ballet, which I then passed back on to the

1285
01:02:08,240 --> 01:02:12,840
Speaker 15: medical staff in the All Blacks, and we coached slightly differently.

1286
01:02:13,400 --> 01:02:15,200
Speaker 3: So do you think because you also went and had

1287
01:02:15,240 --> 01:02:18,640
Speaker 3: to look at the sumo wrestlers, did that inform how

1288
01:02:18,720 --> 01:02:19,440
Speaker 3: to pack a scrum?

1289
01:02:21,000 --> 01:02:21,040
Speaker 18: No?

1290
01:02:21,400 --> 01:02:25,480
Speaker 15: No, I went and sat a week there in the

1291
01:02:25,560 --> 01:02:28,120
Speaker 15: sumo wrestling camp. I didn't know what I was looking at.

1292
01:02:28,200 --> 01:02:30,560
Speaker 15: That's the first thing. Don't go in with preconceived ideas,

1293
01:02:30,640 --> 01:02:33,320
Speaker 15: just going with an open mind. And I was lucky

1294
01:02:33,440 --> 01:02:35,480
Speaker 15: enough I was allowed to video because quite often when

1295
01:02:35,480 --> 01:02:40,920
Speaker 15: you go into other places, they are very protective, but

1296
01:02:41,480 --> 01:02:43,880
Speaker 15: in the sumo camp, I was allowed to video, so

1297
01:02:43,920 --> 01:02:46,880
Speaker 15: I videoed them. Every morning they do an hour for

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Speaker 15: the junior boys, then an hour the intermediate guys, and

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Speaker 15: an hour for the senior guys. And I didn't know

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Speaker 15: what I've seen. I would have a clue and I

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01:02:54,480 --> 01:02:57,120
Speaker 15: got home. There's got to be something I'm missing, you know,

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Speaker 15: And there must have been. Three months later I went

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01:02:59,320 --> 01:03:02,960
Speaker 15: back over the foot and I just found that the

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01:03:03,120 --> 01:03:04,640
Speaker 15: last thing they do when they came out of the

1305
01:03:04,680 --> 01:03:07,760
Speaker 15: blocks to attack their opponent is they sort of crunched

1306
01:03:07,800 --> 01:03:10,360
Speaker 15: their toes into the ground and then at least to explode,

1307
01:03:10,400 --> 01:03:12,840
Speaker 15: and that's what gave them that force and power to

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01:03:13,400 --> 01:03:16,160
Speaker 15: get off the mark. And I thought that's pretty interesting.

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01:03:16,280 --> 01:03:19,880
Speaker 15: So I brought that back and included that and part

1310
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Speaker 15: of my coaching.

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Speaker 3: Do you think that it doesn't matter what elite sport

1312
01:03:23,720 --> 01:03:25,520
Speaker 3: you go to, but if you are at the elite

1313
01:03:25,600 --> 01:03:27,040
Speaker 3: level there is something to learn?

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Speaker 15: Definitely? Again, I think so long you don't. A lot

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01:03:32,560 --> 01:03:34,600
Speaker 15: of places I've gone into they say, well, what are

1316
01:03:34,640 --> 01:03:38,320
Speaker 15: you going there for? I don't know, you know, but

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Speaker 15: I'm sure if you've got an open mind and your

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01:03:40,600 --> 01:03:44,200
Speaker 15: look and listen, there will be some bit of goal

1319
01:03:44,280 --> 01:03:46,320
Speaker 15: there for you. You know, Like one week I went

1320
01:03:46,360 --> 01:03:48,919
Speaker 15: into cage fighters for a week and the Gold Coast

1321
01:03:48,960 --> 01:03:51,200
Speaker 15: and came back into the ballet. You know, you couldn't

1322
01:03:51,240 --> 01:03:56,000
Speaker 15: get two more verse sports, but I learned something from both.

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Speaker 3: The impression that I get from you, Mike is that

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Speaker 3: you're all about continue with improvement, right, and you can

1325
01:04:01,400 --> 01:04:03,280
Speaker 3: improve from everywhere and you must always improve?

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Speaker 2: Is not?

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Speaker 3: Is it not exhausting?

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Speaker 15: It can be, but exciting, isn't it?

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01:04:09,080 --> 01:04:09,240
Speaker 20: You know?

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Speaker 15: Like, like as I said in the book, the one

1331
01:04:13,400 --> 01:04:16,800
Speaker 15: thing I live off when I'm for myself and for

1332
01:04:17,040 --> 01:04:20,320
Speaker 15: my athletes that I coach, no matter who, learning is

1333
01:04:20,400 --> 01:04:23,160
Speaker 15: motivation and motivation is enjoyment.

1334
01:04:23,400 --> 01:04:23,600
Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 15: So by doing this you're actually learning, which motivates you.

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01:04:27,800 --> 01:04:31,320
Speaker 15: And if you're motivated, you're actually you know, you're enjoying life,

1337
01:04:31,320 --> 01:04:31,600
Speaker 15: aren't you.

1338
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Speaker 3: Now you tell a story about Andrew Hall, and he

1339
01:04:35,840 --> 01:04:37,880
Speaker 3: was not the start you did. You guys were not

1340
01:04:38,000 --> 01:04:40,360
Speaker 3: picking him in the starting lineup, and he came to

1341
01:04:40,560 --> 01:04:42,880
Speaker 3: he got you obviously got on the RAS or something

1342
01:04:42,920 --> 01:04:44,480
Speaker 3: one night and he said to you, why is that?

1343
01:04:44,560 --> 01:04:46,280
Speaker 3: And eventually you told him the truth was that you

1344
01:04:46,360 --> 01:04:48,680
Speaker 3: did not think that he was technically up to it

1345
01:04:48,800 --> 01:04:50,920
Speaker 3: to scrummage with the best in the world. And that

1346
01:04:51,160 --> 01:04:53,520
Speaker 3: changed everything. And after that he actually took some coaching

1347
01:04:53,760 --> 01:04:57,040
Speaker 3: and then improved himself and that after that you learned

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01:04:57,240 --> 01:05:00,640
Speaker 3: honesty is is you know, really importan. But do you

1349
01:05:00,800 --> 01:05:04,920
Speaker 3: think honesty is always importantly? Do you always go in

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01:05:05,080 --> 01:05:06,600
Speaker 3: and tell people what they need to hear?

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01:05:08,080 --> 01:05:08,280
Speaker 12: Yes?

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01:05:08,840 --> 01:05:12,320
Speaker 15: At different levels. You've got to know, you, like anything,

1353
01:05:12,400 --> 01:05:14,840
Speaker 15: whether you're coaching someone or whether you're talking to someone,

1354
01:05:15,640 --> 01:05:18,120
Speaker 15: You've got to know who you're talking to. Yeah, and

1355
01:05:18,600 --> 01:05:21,280
Speaker 15: different if you're talking to a ten year old lad

1356
01:05:21,400 --> 01:05:25,360
Speaker 15: or girl to a fifty test all black and you

1357
01:05:25,480 --> 01:05:29,760
Speaker 15: would then you know, do that accordingly. But Andrew I

1358
01:05:29,880 --> 01:05:32,000
Speaker 15: learned so much of him because it was brutal honesty

1359
01:05:32,080 --> 01:05:36,000
Speaker 15: back at me. I was sugarcoating, not giving him that

1360
01:05:36,280 --> 01:05:40,640
Speaker 15: accurate feedback because one is, you know, we had a

1361
01:05:40,680 --> 01:05:44,200
Speaker 15: pretty good friendship, and two is, in all honesty, I

1362
01:05:44,280 --> 01:05:48,720
Speaker 15: didn't really want to confront that situation because it was difficult.

1363
01:05:48,720 --> 01:05:51,480
Speaker 15: People don't It's easier to forget or put something under

1364
01:05:51,520 --> 01:05:55,400
Speaker 15: the carpet than actually confront it. And from that learning

1365
01:05:55,480 --> 01:05:58,800
Speaker 15: that I got from Andrew that night about being honest,

1366
01:05:58,920 --> 01:06:00,560
Speaker 15: and I was letting him down. That's the thing. I

1367
01:06:00,680 --> 01:06:04,120
Speaker 15: was letting the athlete down by not being honest. I

1368
01:06:04,240 --> 01:06:06,919
Speaker 15: found a whole lot easier after that. And quite often

1369
01:06:06,920 --> 01:06:09,080
Speaker 15: when I'm talking to young men or women and I

1370
01:06:09,240 --> 01:06:12,640
Speaker 15: have to give honest, brutal feedback, I told them that story,

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01:06:13,520 --> 01:06:16,400
Speaker 15: and I say, you know, if I didn't care about you,

1372
01:06:17,360 --> 01:06:20,840
Speaker 15: I wouldn't be honest. I could bullshit you and pushing

1373
01:06:20,880 --> 01:06:22,360
Speaker 15: out the door, you know, tell you what you want

1374
01:06:22,400 --> 01:06:25,160
Speaker 15: to hear. But because I care about you, because I

1375
01:06:25,200 --> 01:06:28,440
Speaker 15: think you've got a good future, and you deserve my

1376
01:06:28,640 --> 01:06:31,000
Speaker 15: honest answer. Now I'm not saying I'm right by any

1377
01:06:31,000 --> 01:06:34,520
Speaker 15: stretched imagination. I'm just saying what I believe. And then

1378
01:06:34,560 --> 01:06:37,520
Speaker 15: we can work out. I think that's a great starting point.

1379
01:06:37,960 --> 01:06:40,800
Speaker 15: And also getting permission, you know, like when I talk

1380
01:06:40,880 --> 01:06:43,400
Speaker 15: to athletes, you know, and you're going to give some feedback,

1381
01:06:43,960 --> 01:06:47,520
Speaker 15: you know, and it is harsh. Sometimes I'll ask them,

1382
01:06:47,560 --> 01:06:49,560
Speaker 15: you know, how honest.

1383
01:06:49,280 --> 01:06:49,960
Speaker 12: Do you want me to be?

1384
01:06:50,160 --> 01:06:50,320
Speaker 4: You know?

1385
01:06:50,720 --> 01:06:53,040
Speaker 15: One I can sugat it a fair bit in tenally

1386
01:06:53,120 --> 01:06:56,080
Speaker 15: brutally honest, and generally at top level they all say no, no,

1387
01:06:56,440 --> 01:06:57,920
Speaker 15: I want to hear, I want to head exactly.

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01:06:57,960 --> 01:07:01,040
Speaker 3: I want to tend so that probably, like you, Mike,

1389
01:07:01,280 --> 01:07:03,680
Speaker 3: they're constantly wanting to improve, aren't they Listen, Hang on

1390
01:07:03,760 --> 01:07:05,240
Speaker 3: there and we'll come back and talk about what's going

1391
01:07:05,280 --> 01:07:07,280
Speaker 3: on with rugby at the moment. Fourteen past eight.

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Speaker 2: The Mic Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered

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Speaker 3: Talks at be right at seventeen past eight, and you're

1395
01:07:16,160 --> 01:07:18,960
Speaker 3: back with Mike Kron, legendary scrum coach. Mike, did you

1396
01:07:19,000 --> 01:07:21,240
Speaker 3: see that thing that the staff has pulled against Italy

1397
01:07:21,320 --> 01:07:22,680
Speaker 3: with the little scrum at the start of the game

1398
01:07:22,720 --> 01:07:23,200
Speaker 3: the other day?

1399
01:07:24,120 --> 01:07:28,400
Speaker 15: Yeah? Yeah, yeah, I remember, probably forty years ago, some

1400
01:07:29,200 --> 01:07:31,680
Speaker 15: teams to keep deliberately out on the fall and then

1401
01:07:31,760 --> 01:07:34,200
Speaker 15: go back to a scrum to try and do that. Yeah,

1402
01:07:34,240 --> 01:07:37,439
Speaker 15: I haven't seen that for forty years. Probably SOLRESSI coming

1403
01:07:37,520 --> 01:07:40,080
Speaker 15: up with some ideas dridging them up. Yere.

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01:07:40,240 --> 01:07:40,760
Speaker 10: Do you like it?

1405
01:07:41,760 --> 01:07:41,800
Speaker 18: No?

1406
01:07:42,520 --> 01:07:46,200
Speaker 12: We ah, Oh, it's a.

1407
01:07:46,240 --> 01:07:49,560
Speaker 15: Tactic that I just think. I'm sort of a purist.

1408
01:07:49,600 --> 01:07:52,800
Speaker 15: I suppose, you know, I coached that way. I don't like,

1409
01:07:54,040 --> 01:07:57,200
Speaker 15: you know, I just like doing things correctly. I'd find

1410
01:07:57,240 --> 01:07:59,200
Speaker 15: out a wee bit just a bit harsh. You know.

1411
01:08:00,080 --> 01:08:01,880
Speaker 15: It's just play the game it's meant to be played,

1412
01:08:01,920 --> 01:08:02,440
Speaker 15: and get on with it.

1413
01:08:02,720 --> 01:08:04,800
Speaker 3: What do you think of the Blues wanting to move

1414
01:08:04,880 --> 01:08:06,040
Speaker 3: to Mount Smart potentially?

1415
01:08:08,080 --> 01:08:11,240
Speaker 15: Yeah, well, you know, they have very good reasons for it.

1416
01:08:13,000 --> 01:08:14,720
Speaker 15: You know, it's a good field. I mean, I member

1417
01:08:15,560 --> 01:08:19,080
Speaker 15: the or Blacks we trained there. It's a good field,

1418
01:08:19,160 --> 01:08:22,120
Speaker 15: good facility, you know. So I'll certainly have their reasons

1419
01:08:22,160 --> 01:08:26,599
Speaker 15: for it. And Andrew Hall, the boss there, he'll certainly

1420
01:08:26,640 --> 01:08:28,439
Speaker 15: be making good decisions.

1421
01:08:29,120 --> 01:08:31,240
Speaker 3: One part of the reason be that the crowds have

1422
01:08:31,360 --> 01:08:33,320
Speaker 3: dropped off and we just don't get enough people to

1423
01:08:33,439 --> 01:08:34,800
Speaker 3: kind of pack out Eden Park.

1424
01:08:36,160 --> 01:08:38,240
Speaker 15: Yeah, yeah, that's probably true, you know, because we have

1425
01:08:38,560 --> 01:08:42,280
Speaker 15: live TV and you've got to drive there. And I

1426
01:08:42,400 --> 01:08:46,479
Speaker 15: found Eden Parks not the easiest place to get to sometimes. Yeah,

1427
01:08:47,320 --> 01:08:48,280
Speaker 15: I'm really looking forward.

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01:08:48,600 --> 01:08:50,439
Speaker 3: Sorry, So, Mike, what I was going to say is

1429
01:08:50,800 --> 01:08:52,880
Speaker 3: somebody pitched this idea to me right that what we

1430
01:08:52,960 --> 01:08:54,519
Speaker 3: need to do is we need to make Super Rugby

1431
01:08:54,600 --> 01:08:57,200
Speaker 3: more exciting. And what you're probably going to hate this

1432
01:08:57,240 --> 01:08:59,479
Speaker 3: because you're a scrummn, but what we need to see

1433
01:08:59,560 --> 01:09:02,080
Speaker 3: more is is the running game. So why don't we

1434
01:09:02,160 --> 01:09:04,160
Speaker 3: change the rules to give you greater points for a

1435
01:09:04,240 --> 01:09:06,120
Speaker 3: try that comes off a running game than just pushing

1436
01:09:06,160 --> 01:09:07,760
Speaker 3: over the line. And that way we get more fans

1437
01:09:07,800 --> 01:09:09,400
Speaker 3: because it's engaging. Again, what do you think?

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01:09:12,000 --> 01:09:14,360
Speaker 15: No, I probably wouldn't agree with that, but I actually

1439
01:09:14,400 --> 01:09:18,560
Speaker 15: found this year Super Rugby was enjoyable to watch. The

1440
01:09:19,880 --> 01:09:23,919
Speaker 15: stats went up watching and that came about through refereeing

1441
01:09:25,360 --> 01:09:29,120
Speaker 15: being a stricter on people trying to slow the game

1442
01:09:29,160 --> 01:09:34,080
Speaker 15: down intentionally to have a rest for tactics. Yeah, and

1443
01:09:34,200 --> 01:09:37,960
Speaker 15: they made a couple of minor law changes. It was fast.

1444
01:09:38,000 --> 01:09:40,200
Speaker 15: You couldn't get it much fast because the athlete wouldn't

1445
01:09:40,200 --> 01:09:43,040
Speaker 15: be able to survive it. I think you know you're

1446
01:09:43,120 --> 01:09:47,840
Speaker 15: covering you know, eight nine kilometers in a game of

1447
01:09:48,000 --> 01:09:54,160
Speaker 15: repeated speed with collisions. So the ball and playing now

1448
01:09:54,280 --> 01:09:57,280
Speaker 15: is more than what it has been. So I think

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01:09:57,840 --> 01:10:00,400
Speaker 15: I think the game itself is a good place. I

1450
01:10:00,479 --> 01:10:03,200
Speaker 15: think the thing is for people to and I'm the

1451
01:10:03,280 --> 01:10:07,760
Speaker 15: same for me. In christ that temporary stadium, I know

1452
01:10:07,880 --> 01:10:09,880
Speaker 15: it was great. It did a good job, but it's

1453
01:10:09,880 --> 01:10:12,040
Speaker 15: the last place I'd want to go on a cold night,

1454
01:10:12,640 --> 01:10:15,080
Speaker 15: whereas the new stadium just getting built. Them all open

1455
01:10:15,160 --> 01:10:17,639
Speaker 15: next year. You know I'll have to get in there.

1456
01:10:18,920 --> 01:10:20,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm in a good stadium. Is a good thing,

1457
01:10:20,600 --> 01:10:22,960
Speaker 3: isn't it. How are you feeling about the game against

1458
01:10:22,960 --> 01:10:24,160
Speaker 3: the lines? You feeling confident?

1459
01:10:25,840 --> 01:10:28,800
Speaker 15: That wouldn't be a word i'd use. No, excited? Yes,

1460
01:10:29,360 --> 01:10:32,400
Speaker 15: you know we're rank outsiders, which way the way it is.

1461
01:10:33,840 --> 01:10:36,840
Speaker 15: You know we're working hard. I'm here at the moment

1462
01:10:37,240 --> 01:10:42,200
Speaker 15: in Brisbane with the team and you know we're working

1463
01:10:42,200 --> 01:10:43,920
Speaker 15: away as hard as we can. That there are a

1464
01:10:44,000 --> 01:10:46,800
Speaker 15: great bunch of young men. We've got a good, good

1465
01:10:47,280 --> 01:10:51,800
Speaker 15: management crew. Everything's gone pretty well to plan, to be fair,

1466
01:10:53,280 --> 01:10:56,200
Speaker 15: you know, because the things are fair of like budge

1467
01:10:56,240 --> 01:11:00,000
Speaker 15: scares through your team or serious injuries to keep playing,

1468
01:11:00,360 --> 01:11:03,880
Speaker 15: you know we're going okay that way. We won't know

1469
01:11:04,080 --> 01:11:06,000
Speaker 15: how good we are until we get out. You know,

1470
01:11:06,080 --> 01:11:07,640
Speaker 15: we shadow boxed the fear of it. We've got to

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Speaker 15: give him the ring on Saturday and just see how

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Speaker 15: we go.

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Speaker 3: Good luck with it, Mike. It's been a delight to

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01:11:11,560 --> 01:11:13,120
Speaker 3: talk to you, and they are very, very lucky to

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01:11:13,200 --> 01:11:14,960
Speaker 3: have you. That is Mike Kron And by the way,

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Speaker 3: if you want to have a read of Mike's book,

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Speaker 3: Coach Lessons from an All Black Legend is what it's called.

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Speaker 3: Could have listened to him for another hour or so.

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Speaker 1: Small thanks, drap across ass come Natskay.

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Speaker 3: It's not bad. It's a little bit kind of like

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Speaker 3: seventies folk rocks, like a little bit psychedelic y, kind

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Speaker 3: of that vibe about it. Very easy listening. You could

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01:13:11,160 --> 01:13:19,440
Speaker 3: check it one of those easy listening radio station bosses.

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01:13:21,800 --> 01:13:25,679
Speaker 3: Even for a bit more upbeate. That's still relatively easy listening,

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Speaker 3: isn't it. You can still chuck that on the background

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01:13:27,880 --> 01:13:30,639
Speaker 3: and you know, just cook your dinner, no problem anyway.

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Speaker 3: So these guys, no, it didn't exist a month ago.

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01:13:34,080 --> 01:13:37,000
Speaker 3: Then they were suddenly on Scotify. They put out two albums,

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Speaker 3: they've got a third in the way. This is in

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01:13:38,960 --> 01:13:41,160
Speaker 3: a month, two albums, and the third on the way

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01:13:41,520 --> 01:13:45,840
Speaker 3: already hit a million streams probably more. Now complete backstory, right,

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Speaker 3: So they've got they've got band members. One of them

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01:13:47,920 --> 01:13:50,160
Speaker 3: is blonde, looks a bit like Tom Petty, the lead singer,

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01:13:50,160 --> 01:13:52,720
Speaker 3: looks a bit like the weird guy from nickel Back,

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01:13:52,760 --> 01:13:55,640
Speaker 3: but with dark hair. Other guys are dark. One of

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01:13:55,640 --> 01:13:58,040
Speaker 3: them is always smiling, other ones grim. They've got names

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01:13:58,120 --> 01:14:00,880
Speaker 3: they you know, like Californian Backstorre Rory blah blah blah.

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01:14:01,160 --> 01:14:03,240
Speaker 3: But the whole thing is a complete AI creation, and

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01:14:03,360 --> 01:14:07,880
Speaker 3: it is just winding people up something chronic because they

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Speaker 3: want to know that they listen to AI, but they

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01:14:10,200 --> 01:14:14,760
Speaker 3: also don't want AI to be highly listenable. So anywo,

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Speaker 3: I played it to my local WESTI I feel like

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Speaker 3: this is Westy vibes. Played it to my local Westy,

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01:14:18,640 --> 01:14:21,519
Speaker 3: she said, I like the sounds I'm hearing. So there

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Speaker 3: you go. AI is coming for your music. News is next.

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Speaker 3: Togs Head b Well, there's a little bit of a

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Speaker 3: scandal brewing in New South Wales with the Independent MP

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01:14:52,000 --> 01:14:55,000
Speaker 3: Mark Latham. He's been accused by his former long term

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01:14:55,479 --> 01:14:59,880
Speaker 3: girlfriend of some pretty wild stuff physical abuse, emotional abuse,

1545
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:05,840
Speaker 3: whose psychological, financial manipulation, harassment, intimidation, pooping on her. You

1546
01:15:05,960 --> 01:15:09,960
Speaker 3: heard correctly. He's denying it. She's taken the allegations to

1547
01:15:10,000 --> 01:15:12,320
Speaker 3: the New South Wales Police. They haven't laid any charges,

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01:15:12,360 --> 01:15:14,280
Speaker 3: so it seems that what's happened is she's filed the

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01:15:14,320 --> 01:15:16,880
Speaker 3: documents herself with a lower court. He's going to have

1550
01:15:16,960 --> 01:15:19,280
Speaker 3: to answer questions about this next time it comes across

1551
01:15:19,320 --> 01:15:21,000
Speaker 3: anybody in the media. They're going to shove a camera

1552
01:15:21,040 --> 01:15:23,519
Speaker 3: in his face or a microphone or something like that

1553
01:15:23,800 --> 01:15:26,000
Speaker 3: and chat to him about it. We'll probably have to

1554
01:15:26,000 --> 01:15:27,960
Speaker 3: talk to Steve Price about it when he's with us tomorrow.

1555
01:15:28,479 --> 01:15:29,800
Speaker 3: Right now, it's twenty two away from.

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Speaker 13: Nine International correspondence with ends and eye insurance, peace of

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01:15:34,200 --> 01:15:35,840
Speaker 13: mind for New Zealand business.

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Speaker 3: Out of the UK. We have our correspondent, Rod little

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Speaker 3: High Rod, Hey, good morning, heada okay, how bad a

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01:15:42,080 --> 01:15:43,439
Speaker 3: day was this for the BBC?

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Speaker 12: Pretty dreadful all things considered. The reporters finally come back

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01:15:49,200 --> 01:15:54,360
Speaker 12: on the documentary which it commissioned about living in a

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01:15:54,479 --> 01:15:59,400
Speaker 12: town under siege in Gaza, which it was immediately discovered

1564
01:15:59,439 --> 01:16:02,800
Speaker 12: by everybody else that it was larrated by the son

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01:16:02,840 --> 01:16:06,040
Speaker 12: of a her mass official and that money actually went

1566
01:16:06,120 --> 01:16:09,880
Speaker 12: to her Mass officials for the making of the film.

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01:16:10,200 --> 01:16:13,160
Speaker 12: The film was never shown, or at least it went

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01:16:13,320 --> 01:16:18,840
Speaker 12: up online, but it wasn't shown. But you know, such

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01:16:19,000 --> 01:16:23,840
Speaker 12: a terrible, terrible error, a commissioning error, but also an

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01:16:23,960 --> 01:16:26,720
Speaker 12: error at the very very top of the corporation. And

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01:16:26,920 --> 01:16:29,720
Speaker 12: the report, the Independent report has come down on it

1572
01:16:29,800 --> 01:16:33,439
Speaker 12: said that it was, you know, effectively an unforgivable mistake

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01:16:33,960 --> 01:16:36,160
Speaker 12: that the BBC should have known what it was doing,

1574
01:16:36,600 --> 01:16:38,840
Speaker 12: didn't know what it was doing, and it has to

1575
01:16:38,960 --> 01:16:41,880
Speaker 12: copy the blame for it. And then in tandem with this,

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01:16:43,160 --> 01:16:46,719
Speaker 12: and of course the Jewish lobby and the chief Rabbi

1577
01:16:46,840 --> 01:16:50,800
Speaker 12: and so unjustifiably furious, they've also been in trouble for

1578
01:16:50,920 --> 01:16:57,759
Speaker 12: not having taken action earlier on a reality star, Greg Wallace,

1579
01:16:58,280 --> 01:17:02,320
Speaker 12: who there are now forty five complaints out about his

1580
01:17:02,479 --> 01:17:06,360
Speaker 12: behavior over the last twenty five years and the BBC

1581
01:17:06,600 --> 01:17:09,320
Speaker 12: clearly knew about a lot of them long before it

1582
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Speaker 12: sacked him.

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01:17:11,000 --> 01:17:13,439
Speaker 3: What do you make of his excuse, which he's profited

1584
01:17:13,479 --> 01:17:15,479
Speaker 3: in the last I want to say twenty four hours

1585
01:17:15,560 --> 01:17:17,439
Speaker 3: or so, that the reason that he behaved like this

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01:17:17,600 --> 01:17:18,759
Speaker 3: is because he's working class.

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Speaker 12: I have some sympathy with it, if i'd absolutely honest,

1588
01:17:23,560 --> 01:17:26,840
Speaker 12: though I don't know the full details of everything he did.

1589
01:17:27,720 --> 01:17:31,320
Speaker 12: There was a comment he was supposedly made which annoyed someone,

1590
01:17:31,800 --> 01:17:35,519
Speaker 12: which was the women working in a chocolate factory were fat.

1591
01:17:37,520 --> 01:17:40,680
Speaker 12: I think some of this I have some sympathy with.

1592
01:17:40,840 --> 01:17:45,679
Speaker 12: He was taken on as the BBC's working class, cheeky

1593
01:17:45,760 --> 01:17:49,160
Speaker 12: chappy and it's a bit like with Russell brand who

1594
01:17:49,280 --> 01:17:53,960
Speaker 12: was taken on for being risky and sexy, and sure enough,

1595
01:17:54,040 --> 01:17:56,640
Speaker 12: he behaved that way and a lot of people were

1596
01:17:56,640 --> 01:17:59,760
Speaker 12: offended by it. You know, so I think he does,

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01:18:00,479 --> 01:18:04,000
Speaker 12: But there are further complaints and they seem to be

1598
01:18:04,160 --> 01:18:07,040
Speaker 12: rather more serious. So it's hard to say.

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Speaker 15: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I mean, because I like you, I have some sympathy

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01:18:10,160 --> 01:18:12,360
Speaker 3: for the fact that perhaps across class lines there are

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01:18:12,360 --> 01:18:15,320
Speaker 3: different appetites for different kinds of jokes. But the problem

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01:18:15,960 --> 01:18:18,840
Speaker 3: what he's been also accused of is just out and

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01:18:18,960 --> 01:18:22,160
Speaker 3: out sexual assault. Is that proven? Does he deny it?

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01:18:22,640 --> 01:18:22,680
Speaker 18: No?

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01:18:23,160 --> 01:18:26,559
Speaker 12: No, he and he insists that the investigation into him

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01:18:27,040 --> 01:18:30,040
Speaker 12: cleared him of all of those charges. But he nonetheless

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01:18:31,479 --> 01:18:34,240
Speaker 12: and he's also now and rather lost my support for

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01:18:34,400 --> 01:18:37,439
Speaker 12: him by saying it's all the consequence of his autism,

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01:18:38,080 --> 01:18:42,719
Speaker 12: which I don't buy at all, and he being autistic,

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01:18:42,800 --> 01:18:46,360
Speaker 12: for example, makes him frightened of underwear, which is why

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01:18:46,439 --> 01:18:48,479
Speaker 12: he once appeared at the door of his dressing room

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01:18:49,000 --> 01:18:53,200
Speaker 12: with a sock over his penis. You know, I might

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01:18:53,320 --> 01:18:55,960
Speaker 12: try that excluse out myself, but I don't think it'll go.

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Speaker 3: Very far, Rod, because I think we can see, yeah,

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01:18:58,280 --> 01:19:00,639
Speaker 3: we see how that ends up, and it is. We'll

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Speaker 3: be talking about you next minute in the disgrace of

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01:19:03,000 --> 01:19:03,679
Speaker 3: Rod Little.

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Speaker 13: You will.

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Speaker 3: What about these heat waves that are apparently going to

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01:19:08,680 --> 01:19:11,400
Speaker 3: become more frequent in the UK? You guys worried about us?

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01:19:11,880 --> 01:19:14,120
Speaker 12: Yeah, I think we are worried. I mean we moved.

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01:19:14,240 --> 01:19:16,400
Speaker 12: Me and my wife moved from the south of England

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01:19:16,560 --> 01:19:19,840
Speaker 12: four years ago, five years ago because we were sick

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01:19:19,880 --> 01:19:23,040
Speaker 12: of the heat, which we were more used to associating

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01:19:23,120 --> 01:19:26,280
Speaker 12: with the middle or south of France. You know, it

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01:19:26,439 --> 01:19:32,120
Speaker 12: was regularly during summer over thirty two thirty one, and

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01:19:32,479 --> 01:19:35,639
Speaker 12: it does seem to be a thing. Sure, it's summer

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01:19:35,720 --> 01:19:40,479
Speaker 12: and everyone's you know, remembers fifty years ago one of

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01:19:40,520 --> 01:19:42,840
Speaker 12: the best summers we ever had, the summer of seventy six.

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Speaker 12: But it is significantly hotter now and already the first

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Speaker 12: hose pipe bands have been issued by counties Berkshire, Gloucestershire, Hertfordshire.

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01:19:53,600 --> 01:19:57,200
Speaker 12: So it's both dry and very very hot, and I

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01:19:57,240 --> 01:19:58,840
Speaker 12: think we're just going to have to get used to it.

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Speaker 3: And what about you though, are they more temperate?

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01:20:01,760 --> 01:20:03,000
Speaker 12: Yeah, they are more temperate.

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01:20:03,560 --> 01:20:03,720
Speaker 3: You know.

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01:20:03,880 --> 01:20:07,360
Speaker 12: I live a mile and a half from England's only

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01:20:07,560 --> 01:20:11,479
Speaker 12: international ski slope and they've had no snow there for

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01:20:11,640 --> 01:20:15,320
Speaker 12: about nine years. Oddly enough to last time they did

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01:20:15,439 --> 01:20:18,840
Speaker 12: have snow there, people couldn't get to it. Bits of

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01:20:18,920 --> 01:20:23,559
Speaker 12: roads were blocked with snow. So that's the way things

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01:20:23,640 --> 01:20:25,840
Speaker 12: work in the North of England. They were afraid Rod.

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Speaker 3: It is good to talk to you. Thank you so much, Rod, Litle,

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01:20:29,000 --> 01:20:34,599
Speaker 3: UK correspondent. Bad news for Same Street mat Almost Twitter

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01:20:34,640 --> 01:20:37,479
Speaker 3: account has been hacked. Someone's got a hold of Elmo's

1647
01:20:37,520 --> 01:20:41,080
Speaker 3: Twitter account and is posting what are being called disgusting messages.

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01:20:41,120 --> 01:20:45,040
Speaker 3: There are racist posts, there are anti Semitic posts. Sesame

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01:20:45,120 --> 01:20:48,080
Speaker 3: Workshop is trying very hard to regain full control over

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01:20:48,080 --> 01:20:50,280
Speaker 3: the account. It seems to have some control over the accounts,

1651
01:20:50,280 --> 01:20:52,519
Speaker 3: managed to delete a whole bunch of these things, but

1652
01:20:52,720 --> 01:20:56,040
Speaker 3: hasn't got full full control over the account yet. So

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01:20:56,479 --> 01:20:58,439
Speaker 3: this has been going on since the weekend. So if

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01:20:58,479 --> 01:21:02,160
Speaker 3: the kids love the sesame, just don't general rule with

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01:21:02,200 --> 01:21:04,000
Speaker 3: the kids is I think at this stage don't let

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Speaker 3: them go anywhere near Twitter.

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Speaker 11: So I should be avoiding messages from people asking me

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01:21:08,200 --> 01:21:09,400
Speaker 11: to tickle them. Is that what you say?

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01:21:10,640 --> 01:21:10,800
Speaker 4: There?

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01:21:10,800 --> 01:21:12,639
Speaker 3: You go see, keep the kids away from it. Sixteen

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Speaker 3: away from nine the mic.

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Speaker 2: Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio, Howard By News

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Speaker 2: Talks that be.

1664
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Speaker 3: Now, I said, I was going to talk about this

1665
01:21:22,880 --> 01:21:26,080
Speaker 3: earlier and ran out of time, but it does bear

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01:21:26,200 --> 01:21:28,639
Speaker 3: talking about. This is the Far North Council, and perhaps

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01:21:28,640 --> 01:21:31,040
Speaker 3: somebody can explain to me what the Far North Council

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01:21:31,160 --> 01:21:33,559
Speaker 3: is up to, because I think that they've just been dickheads, frankly,

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01:21:33,920 --> 01:21:37,200
Speaker 3: for the sake of it. So they spent they spent

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01:21:37,280 --> 01:21:39,519
Speaker 3: eight hundred thousand dollars. In a nutshell, they spent eight

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01:21:39,640 --> 01:21:43,519
Speaker 3: hundred thousand dollars changing speed limits up and down the North,

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01:21:44,400 --> 01:21:46,200
Speaker 3: even though they knew that the government was going to

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Speaker 3: reverse that. Because remember what happened was you had the

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01:21:48,320 --> 01:21:50,760
Speaker 3: last lot in the red lot. Labor and Label were like,

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01:21:50,840 --> 01:21:53,400
Speaker 3: h slow everything down. And so they've made this, you know,

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01:21:53,600 --> 01:21:55,720
Speaker 3: kind of like blanket rule of everybody's speed limits had

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01:21:55,720 --> 01:21:57,840
Speaker 3: to come down. Council started kind of preparing for it.

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01:21:57,920 --> 01:21:59,880
Speaker 3: The new government came in Blue lots said no, we're

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01:21:59,880 --> 01:22:01,800
Speaker 3: not going to do that. And yet, for some weird reason,

1680
01:22:01,840 --> 01:22:05,120
Speaker 3: there was some councils which is absolutely fixated on sticking

1681
01:22:05,160 --> 01:22:08,040
Speaker 3: to the original path. So anyway, the Far North Council,

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01:22:08,160 --> 01:22:10,599
Speaker 3: despite the fact that they knew what was happening, decided

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01:22:10,640 --> 01:22:12,920
Speaker 3: to go ahead and change three hundred of the signs

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01:22:13,720 --> 01:22:16,080
Speaker 3: they are now and as I said, it cost three

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01:22:16,160 --> 01:22:19,160
Speaker 3: hundred thousand dollars for the local ratepayers five hundred thousand

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01:22:19,160 --> 01:22:21,840
Speaker 3: dollars for taxpayers to do this. They're now going to

1687
01:22:21,920 --> 01:22:24,479
Speaker 3: reverse some of them, but they're only going to reverse

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01:22:24,560 --> 01:22:26,519
Speaker 3: as far as they are concerned. The speed limits on

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01:22:26,600 --> 01:22:29,400
Speaker 3: six roads. I reckon keep an eye on that. I'd

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01:22:29,479 --> 01:22:32,160
Speaker 3: be surprised if they carry on with that, because people

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01:22:32,200 --> 01:22:35,240
Speaker 3: are desperately unhappy in the far North about this, because

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01:22:35,520 --> 01:22:39,559
Speaker 3: in some cases speed limits have dropped so drastically people

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01:22:39,640 --> 01:22:43,320
Speaker 3: are getting are getting tickets because it just doesn't make

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01:22:43,360 --> 01:22:45,080
Speaker 3: sense to go as slow as that. So the people

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01:22:45,120 --> 01:22:47,080
Speaker 3: are not happy about that. They've got an example of

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01:22:47,240 --> 01:22:50,240
Speaker 3: in lit road, which is fifty ks now used to

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01:22:50,280 --> 01:22:52,599
Speaker 3: be one hundred k's back in the day, somewhere along

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01:22:52,640 --> 01:22:54,720
Speaker 3: the lines and often changed it down to eighty, and

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01:22:54,840 --> 01:22:57,040
Speaker 3: they changed it down to fifty. But you know, like

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01:22:57,280 --> 01:22:59,040
Speaker 3: a road, you think about it. Think about a road

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01:22:59,080 --> 01:23:01,240
Speaker 3: in your neighborhood that's one hundred ks Now, all of

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01:23:01,280 --> 01:23:03,439
Speaker 3: a sudden, you're only allowed to go fifty on that

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01:23:04,000 --> 01:23:05,880
Speaker 3: that's the first reason they're going to be changing some

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01:23:05,960 --> 01:23:07,519
Speaker 3: of them back. The second one is that, according to

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01:23:07,600 --> 01:23:10,200
Speaker 3: one of the councilors up there, fewer than one percent

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01:23:10,240 --> 01:23:13,360
Speaker 3: of the community actually supported lowering the speed limits. So

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01:23:13,520 --> 01:23:15,280
Speaker 3: I suspect that for all of the money that they've spent,

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01:23:15,360 --> 01:23:16,800
Speaker 3: they're going to have to reverse more than just the

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01:23:16,880 --> 01:23:21,200
Speaker 3: six Anyway, at the heart of it, I think is

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01:23:21,240 --> 01:23:24,800
Speaker 3: a problem with councils completely ignoring central government. And I

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01:23:24,880 --> 01:23:28,639
Speaker 3: don't understand why they insist on doing this, because all

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01:23:28,720 --> 01:23:30,760
Speaker 3: that it does is that it just makes us. I

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01:23:30,800 --> 01:23:32,479
Speaker 3: don't know about you, but it certainly makes me just

1714
01:23:32,520 --> 01:23:34,519
Speaker 3: want to come after them and go, yeah, let's take

1715
01:23:34,520 --> 01:23:36,240
Speaker 3: your powers away from you. If you can't listen to

1716
01:23:36,320 --> 01:23:39,799
Speaker 3: common sense, you've got to be gone now. Cameron Bagery,

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01:23:39,800 --> 01:23:42,000
Speaker 3: if you're feeling a little bit miserable about the economy,

1718
01:23:42,040 --> 01:23:44,960
Speaker 3: and you know you can assume plenty of people are

1719
01:23:45,000 --> 01:23:47,240
Speaker 3: because they're up and off to Australia and so on.

1720
01:23:47,439 --> 01:23:49,680
Speaker 3: If you're feeling miserable about it, Cameron Baggery's written a

1721
01:23:49,680 --> 01:23:52,120
Speaker 3: piece for business desks today and he's saying, chin up,

1722
01:23:52,200 --> 01:23:54,800
Speaker 3: it's going to get okay. Good things take time. New

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Speaker 3: Zealand's economy will rebound, says, the New Zealand economy is

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01:23:58,240 --> 01:24:00,400
Speaker 3: now in an awkward position. There are signs of rising

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Speaker 3: inflation and stalled growth. But rather than losing faith, we

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Speaker 3: need to accept that the economy is working through many

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Speaker 3: structural challenges which monetary policy arises in rural incomes alone

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Speaker 3: cannot address. Time will and he goes through the structural challenges,

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01:24:13,800 --> 01:24:16,800
Speaker 3: the problems that we've got. Obviously, everything has come. We

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01:24:16,920 --> 01:24:19,320
Speaker 3: had a bit of growth, now it's stopped. Level of

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01:24:19,360 --> 01:24:21,160
Speaker 3: activity is down. He says. A bunch of things need

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Speaker 3: to change. For example, you need to get capacity up,

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01:24:24,760 --> 01:24:27,920
Speaker 3: you need to get stimulatory money monetary policy, need to

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Speaker 3: get housing and residential construction going again, a whole bunch

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Speaker 3: of stuff. Bottom line, he says, is time is key.

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Speaker 3: Takes time for those monetary policy settings to diffuse through

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Speaker 3: the economy. We've yet to see the offsetting impact of

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01:24:40,320 --> 01:24:43,840
Speaker 3: restrictive fiscal policy. It takes time to increase sorry to

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01:24:43,920 --> 01:24:46,800
Speaker 3: correct imbalances. It will take time to lift productivity and

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01:24:46,920 --> 01:24:50,280
Speaker 3: unlock growth from natural resources. Housing demand is not conducive

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01:24:50,320 --> 01:24:53,479
Speaker 3: to an upspring this year, maybe next year. Good things

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01:24:53,600 --> 01:24:56,599
Speaker 3: take time, and I am looking forward to Jeez, haven't

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01:24:56,600 --> 01:24:58,439
Speaker 3: we been told this for ages? But I am looking

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01:24:58,479 --> 01:25:00,160
Speaker 3: forward to that, and I'm heartened by the fact that

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01:25:00,200 --> 01:25:02,760
Speaker 3: he thinks it is going to happen. Ten away from nine.

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Speaker 2: Here the duplicy Ellen on the Mic Hosking Breakfast with

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01:25:06,680 --> 01:25:10,640
Speaker 2: Bailey's Real Estate News dogs, they'd be hey, this is I.

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Speaker 3: Think this is reasonably significant. Read the supermarkets just through

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Speaker 3: this morning. The Commerce Commission is going to take some action,

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Speaker 3: it says, against food Stuff's and Gilmore's. They haven't said

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Speaker 3: which food Stuff's supermarkets, but obviously food Stuffs owns pack

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Speaker 3: and Save New World and four Square. What they are

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01:25:27,040 --> 01:25:30,200
Speaker 3: accusing them of this time is car tael conduct. Now,

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Speaker 3: what they say has happened, they haven't named the supplier,

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01:25:33,600 --> 01:25:35,640
Speaker 3: but the Commerce Commission says that what has happened is

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01:25:35,680 --> 01:25:37,960
Speaker 3: one of the suppliers to the supermarkets wanted to be

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Speaker 3: able to have a direct trading relationship with a hospitality customers.

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Speaker 3: The supplier wanted to be able to supply their products

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Speaker 3: to this hospo customer. Both companies being food Stuffs North

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01:25:48,840 --> 01:25:52,719
Speaker 3: Island and Gilmore's, blocked that supplier from having a direct

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01:25:52,720 --> 01:25:55,840
Speaker 3: trading relationship with the hospo and made the supplier go

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Speaker 3: through them. Thereby, presumably you would assume clipping the tech

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Speaker 3: and you know, therefore the hospo guys I were either

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Speaker 3: paying the hospital guy more or the supplies getting paid less.

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Speaker 3: The Commas Commission has said it's going to file civil

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Speaker 3: proceedings against these two companies as a result of that.

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Speaker 3: At the moment, neither company appears to have commented. They

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Speaker 3: have been approached for comment. Fair to say, I should

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Speaker 3: remind you that this is all allegations at the moment.

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Speaker 3: But the interesting thing about this is that this is

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Speaker 3: much more serious than what has happened in the past.

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Speaker 3: That's the first thing to know. Last time they were

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Speaker 3: just having a crack at them for the prices. Cartel

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Speaker 3: behavior is much more serious. But the second thing to

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Speaker 3: understand as well, I've actually forgotten what the second thing is.

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Speaker 11: Is going to make she's cheaper. That's what I want

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Speaker 11: to know.

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Speaker 3: No, I remembered what the second thing was. It was

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01:26:43,960 --> 01:26:45,880
Speaker 3: because Helen walked past, and I looked at Helen and

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01:26:45,960 --> 01:26:48,200
Speaker 3: thought she's looking nice, and then I forgot. The second

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Speaker 3: thing is that this means we don't I don't know

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Speaker 3: if you keep noticing this. We do not need a

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Speaker 3: grocery commissioner. All of this stuff is being done under

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01:26:55,200 --> 01:26:58,680
Speaker 3: existing legislation that predates the grocery commissioner.

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Speaker 1: What is he doing.

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Speaker 3: He's earning all this money and doing that. Fire him.

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Speaker 3: We don't need that nonsense. Five Away from.

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Speaker 2: Nine trending now Squarehouse your home of winter essentials.

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Speaker 3: Netflix reckons that it's got its next big show that

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01:27:12,920 --> 01:27:16,719
Speaker 3: will quote unquote blow the Netflix audience away. It's called Hostage.

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Speaker 3: It has some of the same producers as the limited

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Speaker 3: episode show Bodyguard, which was a really big hit for them.

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Speaker 3: It's all about the French president visiting the UK Prime

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Speaker 3: Minister when a group kidnaps the prime Minister's husband and

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Speaker 3: then starts blackmailing the French prime minister.

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Speaker 1: Your husband has been abducted.

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Speaker 22: These people will stop at nothing, but I cannot give

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Speaker 22: in to them. They are targeting me, they have weaponized

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Speaker 22: my family. I will not be threatened. I will not

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Speaker 22: negotiate my loyalties art at this country. I will not

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Speaker 22: allow it to be held to run some.

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Speaker 3: Oh how exciting does that sound? How exciting does that sound?

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01:28:17,200 --> 01:28:19,720
Speaker 3: With the strings in the background. It's starring a well

1804
01:28:19,800 --> 01:28:23,040
Speaker 3: known UK TV star Surround Jones. She's the British Prime Minister.

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01:28:23,439 --> 01:28:26,639
Speaker 3: Julie Delpy plays the French President. It's out on Netflix

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Speaker 3: August twenty one. So if you're looking, I mean, it's

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Speaker 3: a feverit of a wait for you if you're looking

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01:28:30,040 --> 01:28:32,000
Speaker 3: for something to watch already, But you can stick that

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Speaker 3: one in your little diary and then go and have

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01:28:33,680 --> 01:28:37,280
Speaker 3: a look at that all right. Hither weren't the monkey's

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Speaker 3: AI a form of AI in a way? Weren't they

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Speaker 3: by the way on the AI? But we're talking to

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Speaker 3: Shane Ritty about his little AI strategy that he launched

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01:28:46,920 --> 01:28:49,120
Speaker 3: for the country. What was it last week or so?

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01:28:49,479 --> 01:28:52,360
Speaker 3: He's copping heat for it because it's not it's they reckon.

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Speaker 3: It's not you know, rulesy enough, not enough rules in it,

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Speaker 3: not enough stopping the AI from coming for us. You

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Speaker 3: know what, Shane, if you're listening, hold your lie. We

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Speaker 3: don't need rules for aal's sake, don't need rules for

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Speaker 3: real sake. Have a lovely morning and a lovely rest

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Speaker 3: of your day, and we'll see you tomorrow. The's times

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Speaker 3: will

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