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Speaker 2: Cut A good afternoon, Welcome in. This is Weekend Sport

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Speaker 2: on News Talks EDB for Saturday, January thirty one. I'm

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Speaker 2: Jason Pine show producer Andy McDonald. We're here until three.

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Speaker 2: One of the most enduring, resilient and exceptional athletes of

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Speaker 2: this afternoon to talk about his career in both rugby

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Speaker 2: I was looking at brad Thorne's career and just as

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Speaker 2: Looking forward to chatting to him after one. We led

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Speaker 2: off today though with tennis, as anybody had any sleep, goodness,

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Speaker 2: gracious me. Two incredible semis at the Australian Open yesterday.

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Speaker 2: the second one. I got home last night. It would

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Speaker 2: a replay here. Incredible and then Djokovic beating Sinner afterly crazy,

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Speaker 2: one of the all time great days of Grand Slam. Tennis.

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Speaker 2: TV commentator Rob kernext standing White to chat to us

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Speaker 2: Craig Gabriel this hour as well. Want to get your

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Speaker 2: thoughts as well, tennis fans. Could Novak Djokovic won another way?

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Speaker 2: Could he? I think he was paying about it. I

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Speaker 2: She lost her quarterfinal to Elena's Fitzelina and then had

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Speaker 2: V the Top four men seeds have played at a

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Speaker 2: pair of epic semifinals at the Australian Tennis Open in Melbourne.

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Speaker 2: Number one seed Carlos el Karez will meet ten time

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Speaker 2: champion Novak Djokovic in the final after both prevailed in

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Speaker 4: it's been a long time since Novak has won a

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Speaker 2: He has I know that can to the final. Earlier,

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Speaker 6: And final.

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Speaker 2: An enduring subt battle.

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Speaker 2: from Melbourne. Rob, you've watched a lot of tennis, a

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Speaker 8: It's got to be top five of all time when

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Speaker 8: But it was epic and of course it all went

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Speaker 2: that is a valid complaint from him, isn't it the

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Speaker 8: You get two additional treatments after the first one. The

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Speaker 8: It's always a great area in our sport when it

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Speaker 6: You don't take pickle juice if you're in general.

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Speaker 2: You're right, Yes, the clue, the clue was right there

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Speaker 8: And you know I used a similar line when feder

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Speaker 6: Novak Djokovic will stop winning majors.

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Speaker 8: When Novak Djokovic stops playing in these majors, man, these

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Speaker 8: I think that was the key. He knew that he

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Speaker 6: But his serf was a joke.

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Speaker 8: You talk about one of the biggest improvements in a

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Speaker 2: So he's in the final and he hasn't had to

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Speaker 2: Novak himself said, look, you are the better player. I

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Speaker 6: No, I don't think so.

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Speaker 8: He's paid enough tennis last night and he would have

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Speaker 6: Next that you are.

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Speaker 8: You're so dialed in because there's not many people that

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Speaker 8: think you'll be ready for the challenge that Alcarez possesses. Obviously,

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Speaker 6: I think it was who was that?

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Speaker 8: It was Grigor at Wimbledon last year that had him

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Speaker 6: He went on to win the tournament.

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Speaker 8: And I'm just wondering if the tennis gods are going

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Speaker 6: No one's ever been there.

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Speaker 8: And that's what disappoints me because he is the most

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Speaker 2: Very interesting perspective of always love chatting tennis with you, mate.

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Speaker 6: I love your country. I love you guys. Thanks for

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Speaker 2: Carlos al Karez up against Novak Djokovic. Lines Open Tennis fans,

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Speaker 2: That was not fair. He should not have got a

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Speaker 10: Yeah, that was that was one of the greatest, Well,

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Speaker 10: And you know, I think that that says to speaks

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Speaker 2: But I hope it does tell us. I hope. I

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Speaker 10: I have it'll be a real fairy tale. He wants it.

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Speaker 11: So but what a career.

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Speaker 10: I mean, he's been around just feels like forever. Djokovic

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Speaker 2: He has he has ten Australian Opens as well. Tell us,

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Speaker 2: Thanks dellis good to chat to you as always. Mate.

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Speaker 2: Elkos One was a disgrace, says this text. The ATP

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Speaker 2: favors their two stars. Z Vera had run him to

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Speaker 2: Thanks indeed for that text. God a, Brian, what do

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Speaker 12: Well, it's been great, isn't it. I love love the tennis,

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Speaker 2: Well I don't want to I don't want to encourage

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Speaker 12: Well, I've gone with Drakovic purely, I was he's had

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Speaker 12: as what Djokovic has done. And he proved me wrong

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Speaker 13: A hard ark, that's what.

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Speaker 2: And that's the That's the nature of it, isn't it, Brian,

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Speaker 2: And you sound very chipper about it, but look, you

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Speaker 12: Stupid seven was what what was shown to me at

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Speaker 12: But yeah, I'm down to sixteen dollars. Now bring it

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Speaker 2: Bet responsibly, Brian, bet responsibly. I like it that it's

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Speaker 2: Stars can't shine without a bit of darkness. Love that.

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Speaker 2: News twenty nine to one, talking tennis. I love Carlos

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Speaker 2: Go the joker got the joke. I think he'll have

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Speaker 14: get stuck under the pickle juice, I think, because he

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Speaker 14: won't be able to get away with that the next time,

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Speaker 14: the next one. We'll be watching for that now, So

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Speaker 14: if he starts cramping up, he won't get any medical

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Speaker 14: time out there. I hope he gets it now, dog Rich,

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Speaker 14: because this will be a n.

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Speaker 2: Oh Ellison, we just lost you. Please call back. I

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Speaker 2: wanted to. I want to continue the conversation. We just

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Speaker 2: lost you inexplicably there, Please call back A listen, Chuck, Hi.

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Speaker 15: Hi, you know I just finished some tennis this morning.

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Speaker 15: Great game, but I also watched that. Hel carez if

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Speaker 15: he tries, if the same thing happens playing again Djakovic,

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Speaker 15: I bet there's no way the Dakovic should let the

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Speaker 15: ref get away with it.

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Speaker 2: I agree with you, Chuck. I think now that he's

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Speaker 2: got the form and there's been widespread, you know, criticism

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Speaker 2: of it, of the fact that he even even called

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Speaker 2: for the for the time as Rob Kernig just said

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Speaker 2: he basically lied. He's he said he had an injury

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Speaker 2: when all he had was cramp. So the problem he

448
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Speaker 2: strikes now, Chuck, is that if he does actually get

449
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Speaker 2: a genuine injury, everybody's going to think he's crying wolf

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Speaker 2: and he's just cramping up.

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Speaker 15: Yeah, and I think some criticism terms should be made

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Speaker 15: about the chair referee because the other guy, who is

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Speaker 15: a French guy, a little German guy, he was very

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Speaker 15: upset about it.

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Speaker 2: I think rightly, so, don't you, Chuck. I think you

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Speaker 2: know he's whether or not there's preferential treatment being given

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Speaker 2: to certain players, as Vary and others have suggested, whether

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Speaker 2: that's true or not. The fact that he was given

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Speaker 2: medical treatment when he had cramps only is his justification

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Speaker 2: for Zverev's anger, isn't it.

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Speaker 15: Yeah? And I think a serious complaint should be made

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Speaker 15: to about the chair referee. If that happened and he'd

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Speaker 15: been playing Djokovic, Djokovich would have just blown his stack

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Speaker 15: and say are you going to support cheating?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, Well, as you say, Jack, I get the

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Speaker 2: feeling that if something similar happens tomorrow night, if el

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Speaker 2: Karez happens to cramp Poppy won't get the same degree

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Speaker 2: of sympathy. Do you think do you think Novak can

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Speaker 2: win it? Do you think he can beat he can

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Speaker 2: beat al Kariz tomorrow night.

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Speaker 15: It will be a struggle. But I remember it was

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Speaker 15: quite late. I have watched the first thing, then watched Djokovic.

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Speaker 15: It was after midnight when he had the first set loss,

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Speaker 15: and I sort of went to sleep. I thought, oh,

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Speaker 15: he's he's not going to make it. I was amazed

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Speaker 15: when I turned on the radio and heard on the

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Speaker 15: news how he won.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think, Yeah, You're not the only one. Chakio,

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Speaker 2: I'm sure would have been surprised. Are going to bed

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Speaker 2: last night and waking up to find Djokovic in the final? Yeah,

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Speaker 2: you're right, six three to center in the first set,

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Speaker 2: relatively untroubled, and as we know now, Djokovic won the second, Siner,

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Speaker 2: the third, Djokovic the fourth, and then closed it out

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Speaker 2: in the fifth. Jason, come to you a sec just

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Speaker 2: before we do, though. Here is here is Alexander Zverev

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Speaker 2: talking afterwards about his emotions when when el Karez was

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Speaker 2: given the medical time out despite the fact he was

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Speaker 2: only cramping.

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Speaker 16: Yeah, I mean he was cramping so normally you can't

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Speaker 16: take a medical time off of cramping, but what can

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Speaker 16: I do. It's not my decision. I didn't like it,

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Speaker 16: but it's not my decision. But to be honest, I

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Speaker 16: don't want to talk about this right now because I

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Speaker 16: think this was one of the best battles that ever

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Speaker 16: was in Australia. Doesn't deserve to be the topic now.

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Speaker 2: It's pretty diplomatic. You have to say, isn't it from

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Speaker 2: from Sasha Zverev there given the widespread condemnation of it

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Speaker 2: during and afterwards. Jase Hi Hi Bunny.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, he's a very fair player such and I feel

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Speaker 13: it to feel real sad for him. It's quite ironic.

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Speaker 13: We're talking impelled Alcatraz in this context. When you're looking

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Speaker 13: at Djokovic, he's been the master of disguise of injury timeouts.

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Speaker 13: I don't know. I don't have any stats to back

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Speaker 13: this up, but I watch a lot of tennis, Binyan.

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Speaker 13: I know I've seen Djokovic Paul stunts like this many

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Speaker 13: time against better and for that reason I don't like him.

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Speaker 13: I don't want him to win, but I think he will,

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Speaker 13: and it's not because of the fresh legs or what's

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Speaker 13: happened with Alcatraz. It's actually what hasn't happened to Djokovic.

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Speaker 13: To get two benefit from two withdrawals is unheard of.

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Speaker 13: And I made the prediction after he didn't have to

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Speaker 13: play the quarter final that he was going to be

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Speaker 13: my pack just because of that. Alcatraz had six hours

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Speaker 13: on his semifinal. Joker had four. He didn't play a

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Speaker 13: quarter finals, so you can say these four hours or

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Speaker 13: four and a half five hours off his legs, and

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Speaker 13: then of course he didn't have to play past the

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Speaker 13: third set in the fourth round. So for that reason,

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Speaker 13: and I think the stars have deafnely aligned for Djokovic.

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Speaker 13: It's it's almost like piney, it's.

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Speaker 17: Meant to be.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, No, it's a good one because yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: otherwise otherwise how could it have happened. You're right, it's rare,

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Speaker 2: isn't it to have one walk over or one game

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Speaker 2: with a retired opponent, let alone two in the second

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Speaker 2: week of a major tournament.

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Speaker 13: Well, it can happen in the first few rounds, you know,

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Speaker 13: sometimes through qualifying that the qualifiers getting to the main

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Speaker 13: drawer and then you know you can get it that way.

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Speaker 13: But to have especially as you say, in the later rounds,

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Speaker 13: when the real rubber hits the road, and that's when

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Speaker 13: you play your long matches because you know the competition

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Speaker 13: gets harder. Did not have to play virtually two matches

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Speaker 13: out of seven? How do you not want it?

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Speaker 2: Indeed, yet the stars look like they're aligning. Jase for

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Speaker 2: number twenty five, for Novak, Djokovic, Carlos al Karez. No

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Speaker 2: doubt we'll have something to say about that. Good to

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Speaker 2: chat to you, Terry the Alkaaz cramps. Do you have

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Speaker 2: a view?

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Speaker 18: I have a view that that wasn't cramp. His tweet

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Speaker 18: inside muscle. If your muscles get cramped, they twitch. He

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Speaker 18: did not have twitch on his leg. As an umpire,

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Speaker 18: I would have allowed it to. It's one of those

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Speaker 18: awkward ones you have to look at.

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Speaker 3: Well.

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Speaker 2: I guess it's almost impossible to prove, isn't it, Terry?

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Speaker 2: I mean, if you say you're cramping, sorry, if you

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Speaker 2: say you've pulled a muscle, how is the chair umpire

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Speaker 2: supposed to distinguish between that and cramp? Did you not

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Speaker 2: think the pickle juice was a clue though?

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Speaker 18: Yeah, well, there's also anything else you can give or

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Speaker 18: that I've actually used to hand stuff to people when

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Speaker 18: they're playing to get rid of their cramps. But sometimes

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Speaker 18: it's caused by nerves, not by what you would call

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Speaker 18: heat and things like that, so you can get different

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Speaker 18: reasons why it's a sort of cramp. But it also

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Speaker 18: causes muscles to twitch, and you can cause a twitch

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Speaker 18: buds and you can play through it and suddenly it

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Speaker 18: goes away. So it's one of those awkward ones. I

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Speaker 18: wouldn't like to be the umpire sitting in a chair

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Speaker 18: and someone says it's cramp, and you've got a medical

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Speaker 18: person down there saying I think it's a muscle. Who

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Speaker 18: are you gonna argue with someone who's got four years

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Speaker 18: or ten years experience? Or someone who's sitting in a

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Speaker 18: chair is not a medical practitioner?

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Speaker 2: Are they an independent doctor? Terry? Is it's not one

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Speaker 2: of Elcareza's team. Who's out there?

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Speaker 19: Is it? It used to be?

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Speaker 18: I'm quite old now so I they do?

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Speaker 12: Now?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you don't sound old at all, Terry. I think

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Speaker 2: it's experienced on here. It's experience, not age.

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Speaker 18: No, I'm talking about my age.

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Speaker 2: Now, good on your Terry, thanks for calling him mate.

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Speaker 2: It's look I appreciate, and you're right. It's it's clearly

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Speaker 2: a gray area. And people have pointed out to me

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Speaker 2: here everyone's got short memories, says this text. Djokovic is

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Speaker 2: the past master of medical timeouts. He's taken them whenever

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Speaker 2: he was being beaten. I hope he is beaten, says

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Speaker 2: this text. Good on your terry, thanks for lending us

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Speaker 2: your experience.

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Speaker 11: Jonathan High and Jason, Yeah, I really thought that sinner

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Speaker 11: would have won that because I heard them. I heard

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Speaker 11: it this morning on the radio. I thought, did I

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Speaker 11: that right? I had to listen again for at ten

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Speaker 11: o'clock and I couldn't believe it. I was so thrilled

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Speaker 11: for Jokovic because sooner it's got soon, it's got years

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Speaker 11: ahead of them yet, and I just so desperately want

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Speaker 11: Djokovic to win this twenty fifth and he will. I mean,

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Speaker 11: he is all day to goat, but he'll be the

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Speaker 11: goat plus one or something like that. So I know

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Speaker 11: he's not everybody's cup of tea mennerism wise, I guess,

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Speaker 11: but yeah, statistically he is that he will be. And

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Speaker 11: I think what he is isn't he the greatest men's

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Speaker 11: tennis player of all time.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, based on the metric of Grand slams. Jonathan absolutely,

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Speaker 2: he's got twenty four, Nadal twenty two, Federer twenty then

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Speaker 2: it's daylight. Back to Pete Sampress. I know Rod Laver

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Speaker 2: is always in this conversation as well, given the time

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Speaker 2: that he played and that sort of thing. But if

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Speaker 2: you're taking it purely on purely on wins in major tournaments, yeah,

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Speaker 2: Novaks novakha number one, and who knows because Margaret courts

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Speaker 2: the other one, she has twenty four as well, so

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Speaker 2: this would take him to twenty five, the greatest of

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Speaker 2: either gender of all time.

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Speaker 11: Can I make another comment, yes, just quickly about Coco Goff.

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Speaker 11: I saw that, and yeah there's a debate about whether

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Speaker 11: it should have been televised. Probably not. She had right

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Speaker 11: to privacy. But whenever I see a player do this,

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Speaker 11: they smash the whatever, you know, the golf club or

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Speaker 11: the record to bits. I think, well, it's not the

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Speaker 11: record's fault, lady, you were the player. It's not as

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Speaker 11: if the record had had a mind of its own

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Speaker 11: and did what it did. But I guess they've got

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Speaker 11: to take it out on something, and they can't take

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Speaker 11: it out of themselves. I can't throw themselves as against

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Speaker 11: the wall, or can they so? But I just think

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Speaker 11: destroying your record, it's okay, sure might venture venture spleen,

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Speaker 11: but I thought I just said a poor record. It's

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Speaker 11: not It wasn't the records fault. But anyway, that's the

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Speaker 11: way I look.

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Speaker 2: God, yeah, not fear on the racket. You're right, they

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Speaker 2: seem to have any number of really replacements, don't they.

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Speaker 2: The game was over, But yeah, the players who smashed

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Speaker 2: them on the court just go to their bag and

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Speaker 2: take another one out. They send about twelve in there

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Speaker 2: that they can use. Good too, thanks, indeed, eighteen to one.

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Speaker 2: We'll get you back to melbue Craig Gabriel After this.

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Speaker 1: The biggest things in sports are on Weekend Sports with

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Speaker 2: They'd be call it to one. Let's catch it back

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Speaker 2: to Melbourne. Veteran tennis journalist Craig Gabriel is with us. Craig,

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Speaker 2: how do you reflect on those two epic men? Seems

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Speaker 2: your witness yesterday and well into the early hours of

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Speaker 2: this morning.

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Speaker 20: Well and through the early hours as well, and truly correct.

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Speaker 20: I think I managed an hour and a half overnight,

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Speaker 20: but two remarkable matches that you know, we were witnessed too,

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Speaker 20: with Carlos Arkuros defeating Alexander Zvera first in that final

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Speaker 20: set in particular, I mean the whole match was a

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Speaker 20: roller coaster. It really was just short of five and

643
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Speaker 20: a half hours of extraordinary played an incredible atmosphere. Sasha

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Speaker 20: Zverev had his chances, no doubt, even though he had

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Speaker 20: to fight back from two sets to love down, but

646
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Speaker 20: in that final set he broke to love, was up

647
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Speaker 20: for to serve for the match at five four and

648
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Speaker 20: couldn't get over the line. It was just incredible to

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Speaker 20: see the way Carlos was able to stand that attack,

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Speaker 20: and he said afterwards, I never give up. I hate

651
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Speaker 20: to give up, and that was certainly telling in that match.

652
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Speaker 20: And then the Novak and Yanni come out for that

653
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Speaker 20: second one. It was just over four hours of play,

654
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Speaker 20: again incredible shot making, and Yannick once more had the chances,

655
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Speaker 20: had the opportunities. He had three break points in that

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Speaker 20: final set on Novak, he had forty love on forty

657
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Speaker 20: fifteen on his own serve, could not convert those games,

658
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Speaker 20: but incredible entertainment and amazing atmospheres.

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Speaker 2: How do you evaluate both players' ability to recover in

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Speaker 2: time for tomorrow night.

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Speaker 20: I don't think it'll be an issue of it because

662
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Speaker 20: they've got the whole day off today. Maybe it's going

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Speaker 20: to probably maybe affect Novak certainly, way more than it

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Speaker 20: would affect Carlos. Carlos finished a lot earlier, He's got

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Speaker 20: the day off, He's twenty two years old. Novak obviously

666
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Speaker 20: finished very late and and he's thirty eight, so it

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Speaker 20: would give you know, it'd be a bit more of

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Speaker 20: an effort for Novak, but you know, there's things on

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Speaker 20: the line. I mean, there's history on the line for Novak,

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Speaker 20: the potential for a twenty fifth Major, which would put

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Speaker 20: him separate him from everybody else. He shares that record

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Speaker 20: at the moment with Margaret Court. He would be an

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Speaker 20: eleventh Australian Open, which is just phenomenal. And for Carlos,

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Speaker 20: he wins and he becomes the youngest man to win

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Speaker 20: the career Slam. That's a record that dates back to

676
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Speaker 20: nineteen thirty eight when Don Budge he will it's you know,

677
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Speaker 20: still in that position as the youngest man to achieve

678
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Speaker 20: the career Slam. So there's there's more than an off

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Speaker 20: at stake. And you know, when you're at this level

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Speaker 20: and at this stage of a tournament, a bit of

681
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Speaker 20: extra tiredness is not going to make you know, make

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Speaker 20: you want to do something different here. You just want

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Speaker 20: that adrenaline is what I'm trying to say, to keep

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Speaker 20: on flowing, and it will for both of them.

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Speaker 2: As his favorite, for sure, But Noveak could win, couldn't he?

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Speaker 13: Oh?

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Speaker 20: Absolutely absolutely? I mean when you look last year, Novak

688
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Speaker 20: beat him in the quarterfinals here and then no, and

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Speaker 20: then Carlos beat him at the US Open, so then

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Speaker 20: he played twice last year. Novak has the slight advantage

691
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Speaker 20: on the head to head, so absolutely he can beat Carlos.

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Speaker 20: We'll see how adventurous. And there's an interesting thing is

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Speaker 20: that Novak is the only player to beat Carlos and

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Speaker 20: Yannick at the same tournament before and he's got a

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Speaker 20: chance to do it again.

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Speaker 2: Quickquote on the women's singles final tonight, top seed Arena

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Speaker 2: Sabolinka her fourth straight final fifth said Alina Rebakana is

698
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Speaker 2: her opponent they played in twenty twenty three in the final.

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Speaker 2: A favorite would have firm a favorite, would a Rena

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Speaker 2: Sablinca be.

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Speaker 20: I think, Look, I wouldn't say she's a red hot favorite.

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Speaker 20: She's certainly favorite, having won at them two out of

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Speaker 20: the last three years and being in the final for

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Speaker 20: a fourth time. It's her backyard almost and as far

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Speaker 20: as but as far as Elena Rebuccino is concerned, she

706
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Speaker 20: hits the ball a time, just like Sabolanka does, so

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Speaker 20: we're going to see an aggressive match, and Rebuccina was

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Speaker 20: saying that she wants to be able to take the

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Speaker 20: experiences of twenty twenty three out for herself and apply

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Speaker 20: them in the final and have another chance to win

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Speaker 20: a second career major.

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Speaker 2: Craig can not just ask you about the nature of

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Speaker 2: covering tennis to finish. You know, most people who cover

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Speaker 2: sport know that a game's going to finish at a

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Speaker 2: certain time. They'll do the postmatch and they'll be home

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Speaker 2: probably at a certain time or back in their hotel room.

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Speaker 2: Tennis is very different, and day after day after day

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Speaker 2: you have to deal with the you know, the very

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Speaker 2: real possibility that you're going to be there in the

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Speaker 2: early hours as you were last night. What's it like

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Speaker 2: in the in the media center during days like yesterday.

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Speaker 20: Well, it wasn't only last night. I mean I haven't

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Speaker 20: not got back to the hotel before one in the

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Speaker 20: morning after any session and I have to start again

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Speaker 20: at about six. So it's it's just it's one of

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Speaker 20: those things. You know, the austral And Open with day

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Speaker 20: night matches every night and day and the US Open

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Speaker 20: with day night matches. It look takes its toll and

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Speaker 20: you see as the night goes on, the fewer and

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Speaker 20: fewer deaths that are being occupied in these roots.

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Speaker 2: Oh well, goodness, Craig. I greatly appreciate you taking time

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Speaker 2: for us. I've loved your coverage. Here's here's the two

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Speaker 2: to two fantastic singles semi finals. Rather to finish things off.

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Speaker 20: Yeah, look, and you know we've already had the mixed

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Speaker 20: doubles final decided yesterday and that was an as Ossie

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Speaker 20: duo winning, which was fantastic. There's Aussie duos in the

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Speaker 20: men's doubles final today and you know, so there's still

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Speaker 20: lots to play for and it's I think it's been

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Speaker 20: a pretty good tournament. There's been criticism, but what do

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Speaker 20: you do. You know, the media never satisfied when you

741
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Speaker 20: have the upsets. Oh where are the big names? When

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Speaker 20: you have the big names? Oh, there's no stories because

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Speaker 20: there's no upsets, go unsatisfied. I think it's been fine,

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Speaker 20: brilliant stuff.

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Speaker 2: We've loved to coverage. Craig, thanks as always for joining us. Okay,

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Speaker 2: that is Craig Gabriel out of Melbourne here on Weekend

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Speaker 2: Sport eight and a half to one News TALKSB.

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Speaker 1: Analyzing every view from every angle in the Sporting world.

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Speaker 1: Weekend Sport with Jason Fine Call eight hundred and eighty

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Speaker 1: eight US Talks.

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Speaker 2: MB five to one on text. Jason, we can't sugarcoat

752
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Speaker 2: this as much as they're both fighting champions with history

753
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Speaker 2: on the line, Novak will have more fire in the belly,

754
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Speaker 2: as deep down he knows this may be his very

755
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Speaker 2: last Grand Slam final. He needs to capitalize on the

756
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Speaker 2: chances he has given. Calling it now, Novak in four,

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Speaker 2: thanks for the text, year well, Novak. Jokovic certainly using

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Speaker 2: any doubts about his ability as fuel, Well.

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Speaker 6: I never stopped doubting.

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Speaker 21: I'll never stopped believing in myself. You know, there's a

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Speaker 21: lot of people that dulled me, and you know, I see,

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Speaker 21: there's a lot of experts all of a sudden that

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Speaker 21: I wanted to retire me or we have retired me

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Speaker 21: many times in the last couple of years. But you know,

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Speaker 21: I want to thank them all because they gave me strength.

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Speaker 21: You know, they gave me motivation to prove them wrong,

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Speaker 21: which I have tonight. And for me, it's not a surprise,

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Speaker 21: to be honest, you know, I know what I'm capable of.

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Speaker 2: And as far as el Carez is concerned, where would

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Speaker 2: he write his semi final when over Alexander s Vera,

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Speaker 2: This one was one.

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Speaker 22: Of the most.

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Speaker 23: Or more demanding matches that I have ever played in

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Speaker 23: my in my career so far. You know, I think

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Speaker 23: physically we just push each other to the limit. Today

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Speaker 23: we push our bodies to the limit, which I think

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Speaker 23: the level of the fifth said was what's really really high.

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Speaker 23: So I just got really really happy to to you know,

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Speaker 23: get the win, the that I came back and yeah,

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Speaker 23: I just rang this this one, one, you know, in

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Speaker 23: the you know opposition of you know, one of the

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Speaker 23: best marchy that I have a half every one.

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Speaker 2: That is Carlos el Karez so al Karez v Jokovic

784
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Speaker 2: and the men's singles final tomorrow night. Tonight it is

785
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Speaker 2: the women's singles final, Arena Sabalinka up against Elena Rebukan

786
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Speaker 2: for the the women's crown. More from the Aussie Open

787
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Speaker 2: after one when Adam Peacock joins us around one forty five,

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Speaker 2: but straight after the news Brad Thorne one of the

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Speaker 2: absolute greats of rugby and rugby league.

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Speaker 1: The only place to discuss the biggest sports issues on

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Speaker 1: and after field. It's all on Wi Jen s Ford

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Speaker 1: with Jason Paine on your home of Sport US Talks.

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Speaker 2: One O seven. Welcome into the show, Welcome back to

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Speaker 2: the show. This is weekend Sport on News Talk. Said

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Speaker 2: b I'm Jason Pine with any McDonald alongside here till

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Speaker 2: three it's Super Smash Finals day. Our domestic T twenty

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Speaker 2: competition has its climax at Hagley Oval. Four of the

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Speaker 2: six provinces involved in the women's final, which is set

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Speaker 2: to go in around an hour or so from now,

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Speaker 2: it'll be Wellington up against Auckland, and in the men's

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Speaker 2: final to follow, Northern against Canterbury. This is Canterbury's sixth

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Speaker 2: straight T twenty final and they haven't won any of

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Speaker 2: the last five. They must be burning away at them.

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Speaker 2: I heard Peter Fulton this morning chatting to Darcy Watergrave,

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Speaker 2: his opposition coach j Walling, another former Black Cap, of course,

806
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Speaker 2: is on the show in an hour or so. Zara

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Speaker 2: gently out of the Wellington Blaze this hour as the

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Speaker 2: Blaze look to go three on the trot. They've been

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Speaker 2: the dominant force in women's domestic cricket for quite some time.

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Speaker 2: Can they win another one this afternoon up against the

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Speaker 2: Auckland Hearts, who were very good yesterday in their elimination

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Speaker 2: final to get through to the Grand Final this afternoon.

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Speaker 2: So I've got some cricket for you on the show

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Speaker 2: this afternoon. Adam Peacock going to pop in from Australia

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Speaker 2: as well in his regular slot. Want to talk to

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Speaker 2: him of about the tennis but also the passing this

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Speaker 2: week of one of the one of the legends of

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Speaker 2: Australian football, Rado viticit So Adam Peacock before two o'clock

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Speaker 2: as well, coming up nine past one. One of the

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Speaker 2: most enduring and exceptional sports people in recent times is

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Speaker 2: Brad Thorne. In a remarkable career stretching across three decades,

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Speaker 2: he played for the All Blacks and the Crusaders, also

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Speaker 2: the Highlanders, as well as top level rugby league for

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Speaker 2: the Brisbane Broncos, Queensland and Australia, and astonishing four hundred

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Speaker 2: and seventy seven professional games across the two codes. He

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Speaker 2: was still playing professionally at the age of forty one.

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Speaker 2: Four Premierships with the Broncos, fourteen games for Queensland and

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Speaker 2: State of Origin, eight caps for the Kangaroos, and in

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Speaker 2: the fifteen man code he played fifty nine Test matches

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Speaker 2: for the All Blacks, the last of which the twenty

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Speaker 2: eleven Rugby World Cup Final one of course eight to

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Speaker 2: seven by New Zealand over France. Brad Thorne's book is out.

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Speaker 2: It's called Champions Do Extra and Brad Thorne is with

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Speaker 2: us on weekends for congratulations on the book. Brad, how

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Speaker 2: did you find the process of writing it?

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Speaker 24: Okay, Jason, thanks for having me mate. Yeah it was solid, Yeah,

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Speaker 24: it was solid. I pretty much twenty two year playing

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Speaker 24: career and then straight into coaching another eight years. Says

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Speaker 24: like at thirty years of foot.

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Speaker 25: To the floor.

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Speaker 24: You know, my wife and I have four children and

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Speaker 24: the young adults. Now we're just being flat out and

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Speaker 24: then I finished up with the Reds and it was

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Speaker 24: you know, there was a bit of I had some time,

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Speaker 24: you know, and to process and to you know, to

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Speaker 24: just take stock of what happened. And I thought, if

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Speaker 24: I'm going to write something, surely I've learnt something over

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Speaker 24: the last thirty years. You know, now is the time.

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Speaker 24: So yeah, it was a solid process. Dyln Cleaver did

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Speaker 24: a great job. Nicola McCoy and my editored to the

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Speaker 24: outstanding job as well. And it was good to get

852
00:45:10,067 --> 00:45:13,387
Speaker 24: it done and hopefully it's a positive for people who

853
00:45:13,507 --> 00:45:14,547
Speaker 24: pick it up and have a read.

854
00:45:14,747 --> 00:45:17,907
Speaker 2: So to the fact that you've written it nearly a

855
00:45:17,947 --> 00:45:20,587
Speaker 2: decade since you played the last pro game, fifteen years

856
00:45:20,587 --> 00:45:22,947
Speaker 2: since your last test, nineteen years since you last played

857
00:45:23,267 --> 00:45:26,867
Speaker 2: in the NRL, does that sort of distance Has it

858
00:45:26,907 --> 00:45:29,307
Speaker 2: given you greater perspective with the benefit of hindsight?

859
00:45:30,387 --> 00:45:35,067
Speaker 24: Definitely. My nature was always just the next job, the

860
00:45:35,147 --> 00:45:38,747
Speaker 24: next challenge, the next year. Even as a thirty nine

861
00:45:38,827 --> 00:45:42,467
Speaker 24: year old, I wanted to get into my fortieth year

862
00:45:43,027 --> 00:45:45,707
Speaker 24: to with a goal that I wanted to I saw

863
00:45:45,747 --> 00:45:50,147
Speaker 24: that as my final competitor to play well at that age.

864
00:45:50,187 --> 00:45:56,987
Speaker 24: So to yeah, the whole time. My mindset was about

865
00:45:57,827 --> 00:46:01,267
Speaker 24: getting the most out of every thing I was part of.

866
00:46:01,387 --> 00:46:04,427
Speaker 24: So to have a bit of a downtime, I've coached

867
00:46:04,427 --> 00:46:09,267
Speaker 24: for fifteen at elite private school over here and done

868
00:46:09,267 --> 00:46:11,307
Speaker 24: a few other things, but it's been able to take

869
00:46:11,307 --> 00:46:15,067
Speaker 24: a breath and think through things. It basically came for

870
00:46:15,467 --> 00:46:19,267
Speaker 24: a lot of the structure came from when I Leinster

871
00:46:19,467 --> 00:46:21,427
Speaker 24: reached out to me after I'd played with them, and

872
00:46:21,507 --> 00:46:24,907
Speaker 24: they reached out. They were looking over their culture and

873
00:46:24,947 --> 00:46:27,747
Speaker 24: they wanted some comments from me. It was when I

874
00:46:27,747 --> 00:46:30,507
Speaker 24: was at the Holanders and I put down on paper, well,

875
00:46:30,547 --> 00:46:34,547
Speaker 24: I thought excellence living at daily book like and the

876
00:46:34,627 --> 00:46:37,587
Speaker 24: book is sort of an autobiography, goes from when I

877
00:46:37,587 --> 00:46:39,147
Speaker 24: was a younger guy through to the end of my

878
00:46:39,187 --> 00:46:41,627
Speaker 24: career coaching and all that. But it also it's the

879
00:46:41,707 --> 00:46:46,587
Speaker 24: structure of what I wrote to that to Leinster, of

880
00:46:46,827 --> 00:46:50,107
Speaker 24: just how I saw things. You know, so.

881
00:46:51,707 --> 00:46:54,067
Speaker 2: It's clear that your father, Lindsay, was a huge driving

882
00:46:54,107 --> 00:46:58,267
Speaker 2: force in your life. How did that influence play out

883
00:46:58,307 --> 00:47:00,747
Speaker 2: in your day to day life as you were growing up?

884
00:47:03,027 --> 00:47:07,827
Speaker 24: Just having a number one loving father. You know, you

885
00:47:07,987 --> 00:47:10,907
Speaker 24: have words, but you know how actions speak so much

886
00:47:10,947 --> 00:47:13,827
Speaker 24: more so, just you know, he passed away just before

887
00:47:13,827 --> 00:47:17,067
Speaker 24: my twentieth birthday. I've got an older brother, two years older.

888
00:47:17,067 --> 00:47:22,627
Speaker 24: But the way he treated our mother, you know, the

889
00:47:22,667 --> 00:47:26,347
Speaker 24: time he invested in us. He's a busy man, you know,

890
00:47:27,387 --> 00:47:29,947
Speaker 24: with his work and stuff like that, but he always

891
00:47:29,947 --> 00:47:33,227
Speaker 24: had time. He made time. It might be a walk

892
00:47:33,267 --> 00:47:36,427
Speaker 24: with the dog late in the evening or you know,

893
00:47:37,067 --> 00:47:41,267
Speaker 24: coming along for some sort of school event. But he

894
00:47:41,347 --> 00:47:45,467
Speaker 24: was a guy that had a pretty tough upbringing in

895
00:47:45,547 --> 00:47:48,987
Speaker 24: World War II veteran. My granddad was a World War

896
00:47:49,067 --> 00:47:53,947
Speaker 24: two veteran, and he was an alcoholic, and they grew

897
00:47:53,987 --> 00:47:59,027
Speaker 24: up and state housing and he, you know, speaking to

898
00:47:59,067 --> 00:48:02,147
Speaker 24: my father, he went there was I guess that connection

899
00:48:02,187 --> 00:48:06,467
Speaker 24: with his father wasn't great, and he and he he

900
00:48:06,467 --> 00:48:09,267
Speaker 24: he found role models that were a strength for him.

901
00:48:10,027 --> 00:48:13,027
Speaker 24: But with his own two sons, he was determined to

902
00:48:13,067 --> 00:48:17,427
Speaker 24: pour into us all the everything he wished I guess

903
00:48:17,467 --> 00:48:20,827
Speaker 24: he had and all that support, and sometimes that was

904
00:48:20,867 --> 00:48:23,947
Speaker 24: a home around the shoulder, you know, and sometimes as

905
00:48:23,987 --> 00:48:24,947
Speaker 24: a kick up the ass.

906
00:48:25,787 --> 00:48:26,507
Speaker 2: Both of them.

907
00:48:26,347 --> 00:48:29,827
Speaker 24: Were barely needed. And I'm so grateful for my father

908
00:48:30,387 --> 00:48:32,307
Speaker 24: and my mother wonderful lady as well.

909
00:48:33,227 --> 00:48:33,347
Speaker 17: Well.

910
00:48:33,387 --> 00:48:35,587
Speaker 2: One of the many very powerful passages in the book

911
00:48:35,627 --> 00:48:37,267
Speaker 2: is where you write about coming home from a game

912
00:48:37,307 --> 00:48:38,987
Speaker 2: as a young fella. I just want to read a

913
00:48:38,987 --> 00:48:41,747
Speaker 2: couple of lines here. You write, as we walk through

914
00:48:41,787 --> 00:48:43,627
Speaker 2: the front door, Dad, let me have it. Looks on.

915
00:48:43,747 --> 00:48:45,547
Speaker 2: I've had enough of driving you all around the place

916
00:48:45,547 --> 00:48:47,427
Speaker 2: when you don't have it. You're not fit enough, you're

917
00:48:47,427 --> 00:48:50,187
Speaker 2: not driven, you don't have it in you to front up.

918
00:48:50,427 --> 00:48:52,187
Speaker 2: You have all this talent, but it happens again and

919
00:48:52,227 --> 00:48:54,787
Speaker 2: again and again. It's so frustrating. And I've had enough.

920
00:48:54,827 --> 00:48:57,307
Speaker 2: See your dad and you write every one of his

921
00:48:57,467 --> 00:49:01,587
Speaker 2: words landed. How much of a pivotal day was that for.

922
00:49:01,507 --> 00:49:07,347
Speaker 24: You, Dad? Yeah? Massive game changer. So yeah, and under

923
00:49:07,427 --> 00:49:10,427
Speaker 24: fourteen's team, there's my coach, I mean around the club

924
00:49:10,467 --> 00:49:12,667
Speaker 24: for fifteen years. He said, you're the laziest kid I've

925
00:49:12,667 --> 00:49:15,747
Speaker 24: seen him fifteen years here. I was a kid with talent,

926
00:49:15,827 --> 00:49:18,947
Speaker 24: but I didn't have any work ethic. Therefore I didn't

927
00:49:18,987 --> 00:49:21,347
Speaker 24: have any belief. When I'd try and make rep teams,

928
00:49:21,867 --> 00:49:25,387
Speaker 24: I didn't front, I'd pull back, or I just haven't

929
00:49:25,987 --> 00:49:29,347
Speaker 24: didn't have that drive. So yeah, Dad had enough. There's

930
00:49:29,387 --> 00:49:34,027
Speaker 24: a state forest nearby that Dad used to run. He said,

931
00:49:34,067 --> 00:49:35,867
Speaker 24: I want you to do this run. Basically it was

932
00:49:35,867 --> 00:49:40,107
Speaker 24: just sprinting hills and then jogging anything flat or downhill,

933
00:49:40,547 --> 00:49:43,747
Speaker 24: but it was never to stop. You spend your hells

934
00:49:43,787 --> 00:49:46,307
Speaker 24: doing that. If you don't do it, I've had enough.

935
00:49:46,467 --> 00:49:49,147
Speaker 24: I can't do this anymore. I'm not driving the train

936
00:49:49,267 --> 00:49:51,867
Speaker 24: or anything whatever. I'm not asking. I'm telling you. So

937
00:49:52,427 --> 00:49:56,067
Speaker 24: it was, don't get me wrong, encouraging dad and all that.

938
00:49:56,147 --> 00:49:58,227
Speaker 24: But it got to a point where kids were starting

939
00:49:58,227 --> 00:50:01,267
Speaker 24: to push forward and I wasn't. And I clearly had talent,

940
00:50:01,427 --> 00:50:03,387
Speaker 24: but I didn't know how to realize it. And he

941
00:50:03,467 --> 00:50:06,187
Speaker 24: got to a space where right there needs to be changing.

942
00:50:06,627 --> 00:50:10,147
Speaker 24: I did that run, and something happened in that force.

943
00:50:10,667 --> 00:50:14,347
Speaker 24: Half way through what would be the eventual run. I

944
00:50:14,347 --> 00:50:17,627
Speaker 24: remember stopping and standing standing there and just felt pens

945
00:50:17,667 --> 00:50:21,547
Speaker 24: and there it was felt like almost like a joy inside,

946
00:50:21,667 --> 00:50:24,707
Speaker 24: and I just remember saying out loud, this feels good.

947
00:50:24,947 --> 00:50:33,467
Speaker 24: And I became addicted to that run. My mindset change

948
00:50:33,587 --> 00:50:37,227
Speaker 24: all of a sudden. Talent was joined with work, ethic

949
00:50:37,307 --> 00:50:41,667
Speaker 24: and drive and determination, and the rest is history. I

950
00:50:41,747 --> 00:50:45,947
Speaker 24: never didn't make a REP team again, and a completely

951
00:50:45,947 --> 00:50:48,427
Speaker 24: different animal, you know, came out of that.

952
00:50:49,067 --> 00:50:51,867
Speaker 2: I absolutely love that. I love that you both for

953
00:50:51,907 --> 00:50:55,587
Speaker 2: the Broncos in nineteen ninety four, had a hugely successful

954
00:50:55,627 --> 00:50:59,027
Speaker 2: seven years in rugby league. What was behind the switch

955
00:50:59,067 --> 00:51:01,827
Speaker 2: to union in two thousand and one?

956
00:51:02,707 --> 00:51:05,667
Speaker 24: Very easy. I was born in New Zealand, and as

957
00:51:05,667 --> 00:51:08,307
Speaker 24: in New Zealand probably for one hundred and twenty years,

958
00:51:08,507 --> 00:51:11,107
Speaker 24: that's what we do. You know, boys born in New Zealand.

959
00:51:11,187 --> 00:51:14,827
Speaker 24: We wanted to be an all black and play rugby

960
00:51:14,907 --> 00:51:17,947
Speaker 24: and being all black. So I moved to New Zealand

961
00:51:18,107 --> 00:51:21,027
Speaker 24: at the age of nineties. You know, I'd never of league.

962
00:51:21,027 --> 00:51:23,507
Speaker 24: I went to a state school play league. I love league,

963
00:51:23,587 --> 00:51:26,507
Speaker 24: but I always you know, all my relations in New

964
00:51:27,707 --> 00:51:34,067
Speaker 24: art of rugby player we love. It was never an

965
00:51:34,107 --> 00:51:37,867
Speaker 24: option because the game was amateur way, but there was

966
00:51:37,947 --> 00:51:40,147
Speaker 24: word that the game was going to go pro in

967
00:51:40,227 --> 00:51:43,547
Speaker 24: the mid nineties and Super Rugby finally came ninety ninety

968
00:51:43,587 --> 00:51:46,427
Speaker 24: six from my father and me had a chat and

969
00:51:46,507 --> 00:51:49,107
Speaker 24: my dad said, when I started to really take with

970
00:51:49,227 --> 00:51:51,747
Speaker 24: my league in my late teens, if you get some

971
00:51:51,827 --> 00:51:54,587
Speaker 24: stuff done in rugby with the Broncos and you know

972
00:51:54,707 --> 00:51:58,347
Speaker 24: whatnot you know representative, If you get some stuff done,

973
00:51:58,427 --> 00:52:00,507
Speaker 24: maybe you go back and the game goes pro and

974
00:52:01,187 --> 00:52:03,947
Speaker 24: have a crack. You know pretty much what you you

975
00:52:03,987 --> 00:52:05,947
Speaker 24: know as a key lad, I felt born to do.

976
00:52:06,147 --> 00:52:09,187
Speaker 24: So we did get some stuff done at the Broncos.

977
00:52:09,547 --> 00:52:12,627
Speaker 24: Three titles of four years, ninety seven, ninety eight, two thousand.

978
00:52:12,747 --> 00:52:14,947
Speaker 24: I got the players. I got to play for Australia.

979
00:52:14,947 --> 00:52:17,147
Speaker 24: I was proud to play for Australia where had grown

980
00:52:17,267 --> 00:52:21,987
Speaker 24: up and maybe be league my heroes whatever. But yeah,

981
00:52:22,547 --> 00:52:26,827
Speaker 24: I got to that last That contract finished at twenty

982
00:52:26,907 --> 00:52:33,547
Speaker 24: five and I was looking across watching rugby and I

983
00:52:33,667 --> 00:52:35,867
Speaker 24: didn't want to be an old man one day thinking

984
00:52:36,227 --> 00:52:40,587
Speaker 24: could I have Would I have made it if I'd

985
00:52:40,627 --> 00:52:43,547
Speaker 24: stayed in New Zealand, if I grew up would I

986
00:52:43,667 --> 00:52:46,627
Speaker 24: didn't want those questions and I've always been up for

987
00:52:46,707 --> 00:52:51,507
Speaker 24: a challenge, and so yeah I made that play. And

988
00:52:53,467 --> 00:52:57,507
Speaker 24: you know Dad passed away just as about the ten twenty,

989
00:52:57,667 --> 00:53:00,467
Speaker 24: so he wasn't there for this. He only saw me

990
00:53:00,507 --> 00:53:03,667
Speaker 24: play seven games of first grade for the Broncos, but

991
00:53:05,067 --> 00:53:08,427
Speaker 24: there was a lot of it. You know, it was

992
00:53:08,467 --> 00:53:09,747
Speaker 24: pretty special to go back.

993
00:53:11,307 --> 00:53:13,147
Speaker 2: The first time you were selected for the All Blacks

994
00:53:13,507 --> 00:53:15,427
Speaker 2: for the end of year tour in two thousand and one,

995
00:53:15,507 --> 00:53:19,587
Speaker 2: you declined the invitation. Can you tell us about that decision.

996
00:53:20,787 --> 00:53:23,147
Speaker 24: Well, when I went across, I had three questions to

997
00:53:23,227 --> 00:53:27,467
Speaker 24: start with that I knew, do I like rugby? Am

998
00:53:27,507 --> 00:53:29,387
Speaker 24: I any good at it? And do I like leaving

999
00:53:29,427 --> 00:53:33,907
Speaker 24: in New Zealand? And after playing rugby, you know a

1000
00:53:34,267 --> 00:53:40,467
Speaker 24: league and union, I'd say they're similar games. Lineouts, power, scrammaging, mauling, breakdown,

1001
00:53:40,667 --> 00:53:43,187
Speaker 24: pick and go, kick off receipts where you get lifted

1002
00:53:43,227 --> 00:53:46,227
Speaker 24: in there and catch it like an AFL player, nothing

1003
00:53:46,347 --> 00:53:50,227
Speaker 24: like rugby league. So it was a real battle for me.

1004
00:53:50,667 --> 00:53:55,547
Speaker 24: And the whole challenge is to do things enough times

1005
00:53:55,667 --> 00:53:58,827
Speaker 24: to finally become instinctive. And at the end of that

1006
00:53:58,947 --> 00:54:02,107
Speaker 24: first Super Raby season, the answer to those three questions

1007
00:54:02,147 --> 00:54:04,507
Speaker 24: I said at the beginning, We're all no, I'm not

1008
00:54:04,587 --> 00:54:07,267
Speaker 24: good at rugby, I don't I don't like it, and

1009
00:54:07,387 --> 00:54:12,187
Speaker 24: I'm not necessarily enjoy New Zellen. I miss Brisbane, that's

1010
00:54:12,227 --> 00:54:14,387
Speaker 24: where growing up and my family. You know, my mum,

1011
00:54:14,867 --> 00:54:20,347
Speaker 24: you know my brother, my Broncos teammates. So yeah, And

1012
00:54:21,547 --> 00:54:23,547
Speaker 24: after a good chat for my brother, I went back

1013
00:54:23,627 --> 00:54:26,547
Speaker 24: home after Super Rugby and my brother said, if you

1014
00:54:26,947 --> 00:54:30,907
Speaker 24: know you go back there, I know you're you know,

1015
00:54:30,947 --> 00:54:33,107
Speaker 24: you're missing your girlfriend who's now my wife for twenty

1016
00:54:33,147 --> 00:54:33,627
Speaker 24: three years.

1017
00:54:33,747 --> 00:54:34,227
Speaker 19: I know that.

1018
00:54:35,107 --> 00:54:37,787
Speaker 24: You know, you've been paid less a lot less than

1019
00:54:37,787 --> 00:54:39,907
Speaker 24: you were in league, and you're feeling down and out,

1020
00:54:39,947 --> 00:54:43,027
Speaker 24: but you go back there and you give it your

1021
00:54:43,067 --> 00:54:44,667
Speaker 24: best and then at the end of the year, if

1022
00:54:44,667 --> 00:54:47,147
Speaker 24: you've had enough, you can walk away knowing that you

1023
00:54:47,267 --> 00:54:48,147
Speaker 24: gave it a good shot.

1024
00:54:48,667 --> 00:54:48,987
Speaker 2: I went.

1025
00:54:49,147 --> 00:54:52,307
Speaker 24: They moved me from position number eight, whighly technical position

1026
00:54:52,507 --> 00:54:56,747
Speaker 24: into Locke and it started to take It started with

1027
00:54:56,867 --> 00:55:00,307
Speaker 24: the scrum where it really suited my nature, you know,

1028
00:55:00,507 --> 00:55:04,707
Speaker 24: my style, just the power game, being part of a pack,

1029
00:55:05,227 --> 00:55:08,467
Speaker 24: and that it filtered across to the other parts of

1030
00:55:08,827 --> 00:55:12,867
Speaker 24: the game. So as I there, his word that they

1031
00:55:12,907 --> 00:55:15,467
Speaker 24: were looking at me would have been picked on potential

1032
00:55:15,547 --> 00:55:17,827
Speaker 24: for two years out from my two thousand and three

1033
00:55:17,907 --> 00:55:23,827
Speaker 24: World Cup, and I know I was feeling like, do

1034
00:55:23,987 --> 00:55:27,747
Speaker 24: I like rugby? It's getting better? You know, Am I

1035
00:55:27,827 --> 00:55:31,267
Speaker 24: any good at I'm improving? And do I like New Zealand? Yeah,

1036
00:55:31,267 --> 00:55:33,147
Speaker 24: it's starting to grow on me. But I was still,

1037
00:55:33,347 --> 00:55:36,507
Speaker 24: you know, I wasn't sure. So I at the end

1038
00:55:36,547 --> 00:55:40,907
Speaker 24: of that season, I just when they were going to

1039
00:55:41,027 --> 00:55:42,747
Speaker 24: name the team, I put forward that, you know, I

1040
00:55:42,827 --> 00:55:47,067
Speaker 24: wanted to go back to Australia think about things. I

1041
00:55:47,187 --> 00:55:50,027
Speaker 24: did get picked anyway, it made it a little bit awkward.

1042
00:55:50,507 --> 00:55:51,467
Speaker 11: But I felt.

1043
00:55:53,027 --> 00:55:55,547
Speaker 24: If I had gone on that tour and taken the

1044
00:55:55,587 --> 00:55:58,547
Speaker 24: All Black jersey and then finished and said, hey see

1045
00:55:58,667 --> 00:56:00,547
Speaker 24: you guys, I'm out of here, I think that would

1046
00:56:00,587 --> 00:56:03,067
Speaker 24: have been a lot worse, you know what I mean.

1047
00:56:03,267 --> 00:56:05,707
Speaker 24: So I actually had a year away from all sport

1048
00:56:05,827 --> 00:56:07,907
Speaker 24: after that, I married my wife, I did a whole

1049
00:56:07,947 --> 00:56:11,787
Speaker 24: hit of different things, and then when it was the

1050
00:56:11,867 --> 00:56:13,867
Speaker 24: decision of I'm going to go back and play football

1051
00:56:13,867 --> 00:56:17,227
Speaker 24: again legal union. When I came back in three, it

1052
00:56:17,387 --> 00:56:20,387
Speaker 24: was reward for effort. I put an effort in two

1053
00:56:20,387 --> 00:56:24,267
Speaker 24: thousand and one, I was getting at the doorstep of

1054
00:56:24,347 --> 00:56:28,427
Speaker 24: getting reward. I had unfinished business there. So I came

1055
00:56:28,507 --> 00:56:31,507
Speaker 24: back in two thousand and three and got to playing

1056
00:56:31,547 --> 00:56:33,227
Speaker 24: a World Cup and become an All Black. It was

1057
00:56:33,227 --> 00:56:34,547
Speaker 24: pretty special year.

1058
00:56:34,587 --> 00:56:36,867
Speaker 2: Twelve test that year, including seven at the Rugby World

1059
00:56:36,867 --> 00:56:39,827
Speaker 2: Cup and three. I hope everybody's keeping up here because

1060
00:56:39,827 --> 00:56:42,787
Speaker 2: then you went back to league. So at that time,

1061
00:56:43,027 --> 00:56:45,547
Speaker 2: did you think that was it for rugby? You'd scratched

1062
00:56:45,587 --> 00:56:47,747
Speaker 2: that itch and that was it. You were going back

1063
00:56:47,787 --> 00:56:48,227
Speaker 2: to league.

1064
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Speaker 24: You've knowled it exactly. Yeah, looking back and it looks weird,

1065
00:56:52,587 --> 00:56:55,507
Speaker 24: why did you go back? But at the time the

1066
00:56:55,627 --> 00:56:59,427
Speaker 24: new administration, I became Henry and Steve Hanson in that day.

1067
00:57:00,507 --> 00:57:03,067
Speaker 24: The following year, I wasn't peaked. Initially they wanted me

1068
00:57:03,867 --> 00:57:06,987
Speaker 24: as things went on that year, but I'd already made

1069
00:57:07,027 --> 00:57:10,227
Speaker 24: a decision to go back to league. I was twenty

1070
00:57:10,747 --> 00:57:15,147
Speaker 24: nine years old. I'd done come to rugby. I'd had

1071
00:57:15,147 --> 00:57:18,027
Speaker 24: a great time, make great friends, and I'd achieved that goal.

1072
00:57:19,587 --> 00:57:21,307
Speaker 24: You know, it's something it was special to me around

1073
00:57:21,307 --> 00:57:24,987
Speaker 24: my father and different things. But I loved the rugby

1074
00:57:25,067 --> 00:57:28,147
Speaker 24: League of the nineties. We were a championship team. I

1075
00:57:28,267 --> 00:57:31,267
Speaker 24: had my mates back there, Petra and web Weby and

1076
00:57:31,827 --> 00:57:35,227
Speaker 24: all these sort of guys, and I still would say

1077
00:57:35,267 --> 00:57:39,947
Speaker 24: I enjoyed rugby league a little bit more. And so

1078
00:57:40,947 --> 00:57:43,387
Speaker 24: I just thought, you know, this could be my last contract.

1079
00:57:43,947 --> 00:57:46,667
Speaker 24: I'm going to play out playing you know, back of them,

1080
00:57:46,907 --> 00:57:49,347
Speaker 24: you know those guys, and try and win a title.

1081
00:57:49,547 --> 00:57:51,907
Speaker 24: So I went back. I won a title in six

1082
00:57:51,987 --> 00:57:55,987
Speaker 24: I got the play origin again, and you know, but

1083
00:57:56,107 --> 00:57:58,347
Speaker 24: it was I watched the two thousand and seven World

1084
00:57:58,427 --> 00:58:01,427
Speaker 24: Cup and they had a few injuries at Locke. I

1085
00:58:01,427 --> 00:58:04,867
Speaker 24: remember Carl Hayman in the lineout Watson Sahelaky, I think

1086
00:58:05,307 --> 00:58:08,667
Speaker 24: maybe another one And I was sitting there thinking, you know,

1087
00:58:08,947 --> 00:58:12,467
Speaker 24: see that could have been me out there. But yeah,

1088
00:58:12,467 --> 00:58:13,227
Speaker 24: I thought it was done.

1089
00:58:13,427 --> 00:58:13,747
Speaker 19: From now.

1090
00:58:13,787 --> 00:58:15,627
Speaker 24: I was going to play out my days in the

1091
00:58:15,707 --> 00:58:18,987
Speaker 24: North of England playing rugby league. But there was a

1092
00:58:19,347 --> 00:58:23,467
Speaker 24: door shut there. It didn't seem the interests that I

1093
00:58:23,987 --> 00:58:26,667
Speaker 24: you know, it didn't work out. Then I just thought

1094
00:58:26,707 --> 00:58:31,187
Speaker 24: to myself, I got two trades, a chippy and sparky.

1095
00:58:31,627 --> 00:58:33,787
Speaker 24: I'm going to do my other trade, which is rugby union.

1096
00:58:33,947 --> 00:58:37,507
Speaker 24: So at the end of that Broncos I went back

1097
00:58:37,547 --> 00:58:41,427
Speaker 24: to rugby again, but to the Crusaders, and I thought

1098
00:58:41,467 --> 00:58:43,827
Speaker 24: I'll go back and play there, try and win a title,

1099
00:58:43,827 --> 00:58:46,627
Speaker 24: which we did in two thousand and eight, and then

1100
00:58:47,187 --> 00:58:49,907
Speaker 24: I'll go to Europe and finish out playing rugby. The

1101
00:58:50,027 --> 00:58:53,147
Speaker 24: thing was after three games I lived from New Zealand

1102
00:58:53,227 --> 00:58:56,067
Speaker 24: rugby union and they wanted to sign me on for

1103
00:58:56,747 --> 00:58:59,347
Speaker 24: another couple of years, and before you know it, I

1104
00:58:59,507 --> 00:59:01,947
Speaker 24: played the full four years through to the World Cup.

1105
00:59:03,147 --> 00:59:05,507
Speaker 2: Among everything else you've achieved, and it's a long list,

1106
00:59:05,627 --> 00:59:08,947
Speaker 2: bread Where does winning the twenty eleven Rugby World Cup

1107
00:59:09,267 --> 00:59:10,987
Speaker 2: with the All Blacks set.

1108
00:59:11,787 --> 00:59:15,187
Speaker 24: Number one easily. Yeah, the grand final of Grand finals.

1109
00:59:15,467 --> 00:59:19,507
Speaker 24: I felt like all the other Grand finals sort of

1110
00:59:19,627 --> 00:59:23,387
Speaker 24: prepared me with sort lined up for I had four,

1111
00:59:23,467 --> 00:59:26,267
Speaker 24: played in four for the Broncos, played in four for

1112
00:59:26,387 --> 00:59:31,547
Speaker 24: the Crusaders, and yeah we hadn't. It was a twenty

1113
00:59:31,587 --> 00:59:37,227
Speaker 24: four year drought, you know all this, But yeah, this

1114
00:59:37,467 --> 00:59:40,427
Speaker 24: is our home World Cup, this pressure where the most

1115
00:59:40,707 --> 00:59:43,507
Speaker 24: senior All Black team there had been. I was the

1116
00:59:43,587 --> 00:59:46,027
Speaker 24: oldest player, thirty six. The World Cup final was my

1117
00:59:46,147 --> 00:59:49,307
Speaker 24: last game, the game number sixty. It was Test fifty nine,

1118
00:59:49,347 --> 00:59:53,587
Speaker 24: game number sixty, and yeah, everything was on the line.

1119
00:59:53,747 --> 00:59:55,867
Speaker 24: I was only in New Zealand for one job and

1120
00:59:55,987 --> 00:59:59,987
Speaker 24: that was for one main reason was the World Cup.

1121
01:00:00,107 --> 01:00:02,707
Speaker 24: I got my fiftieth Test cap the year before I

1122
01:00:02,787 --> 01:00:08,627
Speaker 24: could have left. But and you know, it was basically,

1123
01:00:08,947 --> 01:00:11,547
Speaker 24: in my opinion, like three Grand finals we needed to win.

1124
01:00:12,147 --> 01:00:15,627
Speaker 24: You couldn't go into the quarterfinal planning for the semi that,

1125
01:00:15,827 --> 01:00:19,307
Speaker 24: you know, because it's do a die. You got to

1126
01:00:19,387 --> 01:00:24,147
Speaker 24: take each game and earn the right to go through

1127
01:00:24,267 --> 01:00:27,307
Speaker 24: to the next week. And I know that's easy to say,

1128
01:00:27,387 --> 01:00:30,427
Speaker 24: but that's the mindset that you know, I know, for me,

1129
01:00:30,507 --> 01:00:32,427
Speaker 24: I was focused on. I think the team was as well.

1130
01:00:32,507 --> 01:00:36,627
Speaker 24: And we met the France. We're raising favorites and they

1131
01:00:36,627 --> 01:00:39,907
Speaker 24: were underdogs. And till the day I die, I'll have

1132
01:00:40,067 --> 01:00:42,427
Speaker 24: so much respect for the French, the way they stood up,

1133
01:00:42,467 --> 01:00:45,067
Speaker 24: to how proud they were for their country, the performance

1134
01:00:45,147 --> 01:00:48,907
Speaker 24: they put in. They brought everything that's great about the French.

1135
01:00:48,987 --> 01:00:53,067
Speaker 24: And yeah, we got into a fight and it was great.

1136
01:00:53,147 --> 01:00:56,947
Speaker 24: It's exactly the challenge we've had over that twenty four years,

1137
01:00:57,027 --> 01:01:01,187
Speaker 24: played great rugby in between World Cups. But you know

1138
01:01:01,547 --> 01:01:04,267
Speaker 24: I had a team and stayed with us. Pressure come

1139
01:01:04,347 --> 01:01:08,667
Speaker 24: on and we battled. Not this time, this time, you

1140
01:01:08,747 --> 01:01:12,787
Speaker 24: know the French we didn't pull away. I think Petty

1141
01:01:12,907 --> 01:01:16,387
Speaker 24: kicked two from seven. He had his gods saw the

1142
01:01:16,467 --> 01:01:19,627
Speaker 24: French day in there and then it was just you

1143
01:01:19,667 --> 01:01:24,627
Speaker 24: know the connection of the crowd and the team. You

1144
01:01:24,707 --> 01:01:27,627
Speaker 24: could feel. It wasn't a great feeling, it was a

1145
01:01:27,707 --> 01:01:31,747
Speaker 24: feeling of this is uh, this is one of those

1146
01:01:31,827 --> 01:01:35,707
Speaker 24: games that can go away. And it was just about belief.

1147
01:01:36,267 --> 01:01:40,907
Speaker 24: It's about the guys, you know, doing their job individually

1148
01:01:41,067 --> 01:01:44,547
Speaker 24: and that's doing it collectively. And we went at it

1149
01:01:44,627 --> 01:01:46,627
Speaker 24: and then it comes down to pure who wants it

1150
01:01:46,747 --> 01:01:51,907
Speaker 24: more and never stop until that final thing. So yeah,

1151
01:01:52,267 --> 01:01:55,907
Speaker 24: the funniest Saint look thing for me, Jase is you

1152
01:01:55,987 --> 01:01:58,307
Speaker 24: know I took the final line out with a minute ago.

1153
01:01:58,627 --> 01:02:00,987
Speaker 24: You know, we win that line out, we win the game.

1154
01:02:01,067 --> 01:02:04,467
Speaker 24: And the crazy thing is, if you think about it,

1155
01:02:05,587 --> 01:02:08,227
Speaker 24: I took my first lineout as a twenty six year old,

1156
01:02:09,027 --> 01:02:12,107
Speaker 24: never taken a line out, and to think those years later,

1157
01:02:12,667 --> 01:02:15,587
Speaker 24: somehow I'd be that guy taking that line out, it

1158
01:02:15,827 --> 01:02:19,307
Speaker 24: was crazy. So yeah, so good to get that job done.

1159
01:02:19,947 --> 01:02:23,347
Speaker 24: It felt like for me a duty to the country

1160
01:02:23,387 --> 01:02:25,947
Speaker 24: of my birth, where I come from, and then I

1161
01:02:26,027 --> 01:02:28,827
Speaker 24: could from that time I could live my life in peace.

1162
01:02:30,747 --> 01:02:33,547
Speaker 2: Yeah, killed on you, and well you could have then said, okay,

1163
01:02:33,547 --> 01:02:35,347
Speaker 2: you know what I'm done. I'm done, Beaver did. I

1164
01:02:35,707 --> 01:02:37,987
Speaker 2: don't think you played much after that, but you went on.

1165
01:02:38,107 --> 01:02:40,107
Speaker 2: You played in Japan, you played for Leinster, back to

1166
01:02:40,147 --> 01:02:43,427
Speaker 2: the Highlanders, for Leicester, even played a couple of games

1167
01:02:44,027 --> 01:02:47,987
Speaker 2: for Queensland Country into your forties. What drove you to

1168
01:02:48,067 --> 01:02:49,627
Speaker 2: do that and how did you keep your body in

1169
01:02:49,747 --> 01:02:52,587
Speaker 2: shape for the physicality of those matches.

1170
01:02:54,667 --> 01:02:57,387
Speaker 24: I just feel, yeah, I put a lot of the

1171
01:02:57,507 --> 01:02:59,667
Speaker 24: profession about what I do, put a lot of affident

1172
01:02:59,867 --> 01:03:03,587
Speaker 24: but yeah, my body is made for this stuff, and

1173
01:03:04,867 --> 01:03:09,747
Speaker 24: you know, but yeah, I had ten years at the Broncos.

1174
01:03:09,787 --> 01:03:13,587
Speaker 24: You think about seven years at the Crusader's Origin Australia

1175
01:03:14,027 --> 01:03:18,347
Speaker 24: all Blakes, so ten and seven, so seventeen years of

1176
01:03:18,667 --> 01:03:21,987
Speaker 24: just everything's on the line. Whenever I put those jerseys on,

1177
01:03:22,227 --> 01:03:25,347
Speaker 24: I felt a wait, a responsibility of those jerseys to

1178
01:03:25,467 --> 01:03:30,387
Speaker 24: honor them, to pass them on to the next guy

1179
01:03:30,947 --> 01:03:35,747
Speaker 24: in a good space. And then I got to thirty

1180
01:03:35,787 --> 01:03:41,267
Speaker 24: six and I was like, I feel good, very diligent.

1181
01:03:42,787 --> 01:03:45,547
Speaker 24: I stopped drinking alcohol for six years, and as a

1182
01:03:45,627 --> 01:03:49,027
Speaker 24: twenty six year old, I think that was a good thing.

1183
01:03:49,107 --> 01:03:51,267
Speaker 24: I took that year off, which was like a half

1184
01:03:51,387 --> 01:03:53,547
Speaker 24: in my tenth season. You think about it, it's like

1185
01:03:53,627 --> 01:04:00,387
Speaker 24: a halftime. I was a guy faster because of my faith,

1186
01:04:00,947 --> 01:04:03,827
Speaker 24: fast once a week all through that time. I think

1187
01:04:03,907 --> 01:04:05,907
Speaker 24: that was something that benefited me.

1188
01:04:06,027 --> 01:04:06,947
Speaker 19: But yeah, being.

1189
01:04:06,867 --> 01:04:11,667
Speaker 24: Stronger and when in collisions I think definitely helps coming

1190
01:04:11,707 --> 01:04:16,187
Speaker 24: out the right side of things. And once I got

1191
01:04:16,267 --> 01:04:19,307
Speaker 24: to that time, I'm I feel good. I want to

1192
01:04:19,307 --> 01:04:21,427
Speaker 24: have some fun, I want to do some stuff. Now

1193
01:04:21,707 --> 01:04:26,307
Speaker 24: I've been serious. So yeah, I went to Japan, I

1194
01:04:26,467 --> 01:04:29,907
Speaker 24: went to Ireland, and what got to one I heily

1195
01:04:29,947 --> 01:04:32,267
Speaker 24: can cut with a great group of men. I went

1196
01:04:32,347 --> 01:04:36,067
Speaker 24: to Leicester and I finally something that was pretty personally.

1197
01:04:36,187 --> 01:04:38,267
Speaker 24: I finally went back to where I come from the

1198
01:04:38,347 --> 01:04:44,587
Speaker 24: Highlanders and represented where I was actually fine. Finally, finally

1199
01:04:44,627 --> 01:04:47,867
Speaker 24: I represented where I come from and I played for

1200
01:04:47,907 --> 01:04:51,307
Speaker 24: the club team that my father, my brother, my cousins,

1201
01:04:51,347 --> 01:04:55,067
Speaker 24: my uncle played for. For me, Rugby's, you know, the

1202
01:04:55,147 --> 01:04:58,507
Speaker 24: big fabric have been in New Zealand. For me, that

1203
01:04:58,707 --> 01:05:01,667
Speaker 24: was like a welcoming home playing for that club. See

1204
01:05:01,787 --> 01:05:06,827
Speaker 24: my relations and father and stuff on the front around

1205
01:05:06,867 --> 01:05:11,587
Speaker 24: the club room. So yeah, that was That's how it

1206
01:05:11,667 --> 01:05:12,147
Speaker 24: beat out.

1207
01:05:13,507 --> 01:05:13,707
Speaker 19: Brad.

1208
01:05:13,747 --> 01:05:17,387
Speaker 2: The book. The books are an absolute cracker and look,

1209
01:05:17,427 --> 01:05:19,267
Speaker 2: I know from listening to a lot of our listeners

1210
01:05:19,267 --> 01:05:23,147
Speaker 2: will be rushing out to get their copy. Spectacular career.

1211
01:05:23,387 --> 01:05:25,387
Speaker 2: Thanks so much for joining us, mate, being so generous

1212
01:05:25,427 --> 01:05:27,667
Speaker 2: with your time. It's it's a pleasure to get the

1213
01:05:27,707 --> 01:05:29,067
Speaker 2: chance to chat to your mate and all the best

1214
01:05:29,067 --> 01:05:29,907
Speaker 2: for what lies ahead.

1215
01:05:30,827 --> 01:05:33,947
Speaker 24: Yeah, I appreciate your contexts for having me, mate, Chez, get.

1216
01:05:33,907 --> 01:05:36,587
Speaker 2: On your Brad brad Thorn joining us. The books called

1217
01:05:36,667 --> 01:05:40,027
Speaker 2: Champions do extra well. You can tell from the last

1218
01:05:40,027 --> 01:05:42,027
Speaker 2: fifteen twenty minutes we've been on the phone with brad Thorn.

1219
01:05:42,067 --> 01:05:45,787
Speaker 2: What you're going to get in that book unreal. I've

1220
01:05:45,827 --> 01:05:47,187
Speaker 2: had a chance to have a look at it. It

1221
01:05:47,507 --> 01:05:53,627
Speaker 2: is tremendous, it is. It's terrific. Brad Thorn Champions do

1222
01:05:54,227 --> 01:05:58,067
Speaker 2: Extra twenty nine away from two News Talks dB don't.

1223
01:05:57,867 --> 01:06:03,587
Speaker 1: Get caught offside Weekends for us with Jason Pyne and GJ.

1224
01:06:03,827 --> 01:06:07,147
Speaker 1: Guvnerhomes New Zealand's most trusted home news talk.

1225
01:06:08,107 --> 01:06:10,347
Speaker 2: A ton of feedback coming through on Bradthorpe. Brad Thorne,

1226
01:06:10,347 --> 01:06:12,267
Speaker 2: without doubt, one of my favorite all blacks. The legend

1227
01:06:12,387 --> 01:06:15,227
Speaker 2: aptly applies Piney. What a role model in life. Brad

1228
01:06:15,267 --> 01:06:18,587
Speaker 2: Thorn is great human absolute machine. Brad Thorn brute strength.

1229
01:06:18,667 --> 01:06:21,307
Speaker 2: We need him back against the spring Box next year

1230
01:06:21,587 --> 01:06:25,187
Speaker 2: with Richie and Sunny Bill to muscle up against them.

1231
01:06:25,507 --> 01:06:27,267
Speaker 2: Sign them up, Piney, if not, get them in the

1232
01:06:27,267 --> 01:06:30,667
Speaker 2: warrior's jersey so we can win a title. Finally, Jason,

1233
01:06:30,707 --> 01:06:32,627
Speaker 2: Brad what a human being current all backs need to

1234
01:06:32,667 --> 01:06:35,427
Speaker 2: hear him speak. Outstanding interview with brad Thorn. Absolute machine

1235
01:06:35,467 --> 01:06:37,707
Speaker 2: brad Thorn. I'm heading to the bookstorm now to try

1236
01:06:37,747 --> 01:06:41,587
Speaker 2: and find his book Sears muss Piney, I have a

1237
01:06:41,667 --> 01:06:44,627
Speaker 2: tear in my eye after listening to Brad Thorne. Yeah,

1238
01:06:44,667 --> 01:06:48,707
Speaker 2: I mean I was just sitting here. I almost actually

1239
01:06:48,707 --> 01:06:52,107
Speaker 2: forgot that I had to ask questions. I just loved

1240
01:06:52,547 --> 01:06:56,987
Speaker 2: sitting here listening to the man Champions do extras Brad

1241
01:06:57,067 --> 01:07:00,947
Speaker 2: Thorne's book. Our Domestic Super Smash Cricket finals come up

1242
01:07:00,947 --> 01:07:03,147
Speaker 2: today at Hagley Oval in the women's comp. The Wellington

1243
01:07:03,187 --> 01:07:05,907
Speaker 2: Blaze chasing a third straight title up against Auckland, who

1244
01:07:05,947 --> 01:07:09,467
Speaker 2: be Ignoran by eight wickets yesterday in the elimination final.

1245
01:07:09,547 --> 01:07:12,867
Speaker 2: Let's bring in Blaze all rounder Zara Jetley. I think

1246
01:07:12,907 --> 01:07:16,147
Speaker 2: we can confidently call you an all rounder now, Zara,

1247
01:07:16,227 --> 01:07:18,987
Speaker 2: because you've played a far more prominent role with the

1248
01:07:19,107 --> 01:07:21,547
Speaker 2: bat for Wellington the season. How much have you worked

1249
01:07:21,587 --> 01:07:23,867
Speaker 2: on your batting in the off season.

1250
01:07:24,547 --> 01:07:28,107
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's been a big journey with batting.

1251
01:07:28,267 --> 01:07:30,947
Speaker 26: I've I went to the UK kind of three years

1252
01:07:30,947 --> 01:07:33,747
Speaker 26: ago searching for someone that was gonna, you know, believe

1253
01:07:33,787 --> 01:07:35,467
Speaker 26: in me as much as I believed in myself, and

1254
01:07:36,067 --> 01:07:38,427
Speaker 26: I did about four hours a day every day for

1255
01:07:38,627 --> 01:07:39,387
Speaker 26: eighteen months.

1256
01:07:40,347 --> 01:07:42,867
Speaker 7: Yeah, it was a long, lengthy process.

1257
01:07:42,907 --> 01:07:45,627
Speaker 2: And since you've got back, it was you know, was

1258
01:07:45,987 --> 01:07:49,027
Speaker 2: I guess playing a greater role for the Blaze part

1259
01:07:49,067 --> 01:07:51,107
Speaker 2: of the overall plan as well. And what sort of

1260
01:07:51,147 --> 01:07:53,587
Speaker 2: conversations have you had that have led you to, you know,

1261
01:07:53,707 --> 01:07:54,227
Speaker 2: to doing that.

1262
01:07:55,347 --> 01:07:58,187
Speaker 26: Yeah, I think I've always wanted to be an all

1263
01:07:58,267 --> 01:08:00,827
Speaker 26: rounder since I've been betting eleven for the last five

1264
01:08:00,947 --> 01:08:04,147
Speaker 26: years and it's been very defeating as a player that's

1265
01:08:04,147 --> 01:08:06,947
Speaker 26: wanted to bat in the top five. But ultimately what

1266
01:08:07,027 --> 01:08:10,027
Speaker 26: it's done, it's driven me in many different ways.

1267
01:08:09,787 --> 01:08:13,387
Speaker 7: And it's helped me work really really hard towards that goal.

1268
01:08:13,467 --> 01:08:16,547
Speaker 26: So goal setting was really really important, especially a couple

1269
01:08:16,587 --> 01:08:16,987
Speaker 26: of years ago.

1270
01:08:17,027 --> 01:08:19,267
Speaker 7: We camp was kind of a two to three year

1271
01:08:19,347 --> 01:08:20,627
Speaker 7: plan around where I wanted.

1272
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Speaker 26: To be with the bats and what was required to

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01:08:23,187 --> 01:08:27,427
Speaker 26: get there, And those conversations were obviously with with Cricket Wellington,

1274
01:08:27,627 --> 01:08:30,387
Speaker 26: our new high performance manager Dave Wildash was great, but

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01:08:31,067 --> 01:08:33,667
Speaker 26: the person that ultimately got me there was my coach

1276
01:08:33,787 --> 01:08:36,627
Speaker 26: in the UK is named Dave Simpkins, who's just completely

1277
01:08:36,787 --> 01:08:39,547
Speaker 26: changed my game and those conversations were the most important

1278
01:08:39,587 --> 01:08:40,867
Speaker 26: ones to get me where I am today.

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Speaker 2: So what are the major planks of this, Zara? What

1280
01:08:43,467 --> 01:08:46,627
Speaker 2: what did Dave and you work on? Mainly that has

1281
01:08:46,787 --> 01:08:48,347
Speaker 2: got you to the point where you're now batting five

1282
01:08:48,427 --> 01:08:51,547
Speaker 2: for the Blaze. It's just having hardly batted it all.

1283
01:08:51,747 --> 01:08:54,267
Speaker 2: You know in the last few seasons. What are the

1284
01:08:54,307 --> 01:08:57,227
Speaker 2: main planks of this is it? Is it run scoring areas?

1285
01:08:57,347 --> 01:08:58,107
Speaker 2: Is it confidence?

1286
01:08:58,467 --> 01:08:58,627
Speaker 15: You know?

1287
01:08:58,947 --> 01:09:00,707
Speaker 2: What is it that's led us to this point?

1288
01:09:01,467 --> 01:09:01,667
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1289
01:09:01,747 --> 01:09:03,747
Speaker 26: So I think we talked a lot about process and

1290
01:09:03,787 --> 01:09:06,467
Speaker 26: what that is, and ultimately that's building more trust and

1291
01:09:06,547 --> 01:09:08,907
Speaker 26: confidence in your skills, you know, trust in your swaying. Okay,

1292
01:09:08,947 --> 01:09:10,947
Speaker 26: So what that looks like for me is I have

1293
01:09:11,027 --> 01:09:13,547
Speaker 26: to be technically very very accurate as a better because

1294
01:09:13,587 --> 01:09:16,667
Speaker 26: I'm naturally smaller. I'm not a Rebecca Burns and I'm

1295
01:09:16,667 --> 01:09:18,907
Speaker 26: not a Sophie divine that can you know, clear the rope,

1296
01:09:19,587 --> 01:09:21,347
Speaker 26: and so that means I need to time the.

1297
01:09:21,347 --> 01:09:22,107
Speaker 7: Ball a little bit better.

1298
01:09:22,187 --> 01:09:24,827
Speaker 26: My visual skills need can prove and technically I need

1299
01:09:24,867 --> 01:09:26,147
Speaker 26: to be a bit more accurate.

1300
01:09:25,907 --> 01:09:28,027
Speaker 7: And also technically more aware.

1301
01:09:28,107 --> 01:09:31,787
Speaker 26: So those are the conversations I had with Dave, and yeah,

1302
01:09:31,867 --> 01:09:33,827
Speaker 26: it was it was heavy content. I had to really

1303
01:09:33,907 --> 01:09:35,907
Speaker 26: knuckle down and you know, I've got to I've got

1304
01:09:35,907 --> 01:09:38,427
Speaker 26: about three journals that I've filled up to the brim,

1305
01:09:39,787 --> 01:09:40,027
Speaker 26: so that.

1306
01:09:40,107 --> 01:09:42,507
Speaker 2: Was cool, outstanding, and in amongst all of this, of course,

1307
01:09:42,907 --> 01:09:45,147
Speaker 2: I presume you've still had to work on your bowling

1308
01:09:45,147 --> 01:09:47,147
Speaker 2: as well, which is the other string to your bow,

1309
01:09:47,227 --> 01:09:49,947
Speaker 2: the one you've always had. So how did you balance

1310
01:09:50,107 --> 01:09:53,547
Speaker 2: you know, this desire, a deep desire to become better

1311
01:09:53,627 --> 01:09:56,107
Speaker 2: with the bat with you know, making sure that your

1312
01:09:56,147 --> 01:09:56,987
Speaker 2: bowling didn't suffer.

1313
01:09:57,827 --> 01:10:02,187
Speaker 26: Yeah, I think it was important to remind myself that

1314
01:10:02,307 --> 01:10:05,227
Speaker 26: my primary skill is to bowl. If I'm to be selected,

1315
01:10:05,267 --> 01:10:08,587
Speaker 26: I'm ultimately bowler. So it was mastering that craft just

1316
01:10:08,667 --> 01:10:11,987
Speaker 26: as much as batting. So I bowled one hundred overs

1317
01:10:12,027 --> 01:10:16,307
Speaker 26: a week while I was in the UK, and I

1318
01:10:16,427 --> 01:10:19,387
Speaker 26: had fifty percent was technical drills and the other fifty

1319
01:10:19,387 --> 01:10:21,667
Speaker 26: percent was visual And what that means is just heading

1320
01:10:21,707 --> 01:10:24,627
Speaker 26: out a target or going into competition like playing games

1321
01:10:24,667 --> 01:10:28,627
Speaker 26: over the weekend. So bowling was just as important as batting.

1322
01:10:28,747 --> 01:10:33,427
Speaker 7: And look, I did too much cricket. That's that's just

1323
01:10:33,507 --> 01:10:34,067
Speaker 7: the reality.

1324
01:10:34,587 --> 01:10:36,387
Speaker 26: I let it consume me while I was in the

1325
01:10:36,507 --> 01:10:38,067
Speaker 26: UK because I've got somewhere I.

1326
01:10:38,107 --> 01:10:38,627
Speaker 6: Need to get to.

1327
01:10:38,867 --> 01:10:42,787
Speaker 2: So and so, were you able to find balance though.

1328
01:10:44,187 --> 01:10:46,747
Speaker 7: Yeah, I guess so. I was also working twenty five

1329
01:10:46,787 --> 01:10:47,307
Speaker 7: hours a week.

1330
01:10:47,587 --> 01:10:51,947
Speaker 26: I was studying at university doing marketing and finance.

1331
01:10:52,067 --> 01:10:53,947
Speaker 7: So somehow I managed to do that. I was also

1332
01:10:54,067 --> 01:10:57,027
Speaker 7: coaching as well, so you know, I managed to balance

1333
01:10:57,067 --> 01:10:57,267
Speaker 7: it all.

1334
01:10:57,307 --> 01:11:00,307
Speaker 2: When it was fine, I was great, incredible. Well it's

1335
01:11:00,347 --> 01:11:03,067
Speaker 2: led us to this point where here the Blazerer again

1336
01:11:03,187 --> 01:11:06,587
Speaker 2: in another final. In terms of the season as a

1337
01:11:06,627 --> 01:11:08,227
Speaker 2: whole up to this point are in terms of the

1338
01:11:08,227 --> 01:11:11,067
Speaker 2: Super Smash seven wins from ten and round robin comfortably

1339
01:11:11,187 --> 01:11:13,627
Speaker 2: top spots. How happy do you think the coaches were

1340
01:11:13,707 --> 01:11:15,987
Speaker 2: with the way the team played across the regular season?

1341
01:11:17,107 --> 01:11:20,907
Speaker 26: Yeah, I think, you know, we've we've had such great

1342
01:11:20,987 --> 01:11:24,467
Speaker 26: success in the Super Smash prior and I think a

1343
01:11:24,547 --> 01:11:26,387
Speaker 26: lot of people and a lot of conversations are about

1344
01:11:26,387 --> 01:11:27,587
Speaker 26: how we rely on overseas.

1345
01:11:27,627 --> 01:11:29,387
Speaker 7: And I think the really really cool thing.

1346
01:11:29,347 --> 01:11:32,627
Speaker 26: About this group of girls is that, you know, the

1347
01:11:32,747 --> 01:11:35,507
Speaker 26: last four games, we haven't had any and we've managed

1348
01:11:35,547 --> 01:11:38,107
Speaker 26: to win three out of four of them quite comfortably.

1349
01:11:38,187 --> 01:11:40,067
Speaker 7: And I think, you know, there's so much fight in

1350
01:11:40,147 --> 01:11:43,467
Speaker 7: this group. And yeah, like you said, the coaches.

1351
01:11:43,147 --> 01:11:46,547
Speaker 26: That we have, Johnny and Moe and even Joe, they've

1352
01:11:46,627 --> 01:11:48,867
Speaker 26: just been so cool in terms of the performance element.

1353
01:11:48,947 --> 01:11:50,547
Speaker 7: They just they don't put any.

1354
01:11:50,387 --> 01:11:53,107
Speaker 27: Pressure on us and just allow us to express ourselves

1355
01:11:53,747 --> 01:11:55,907
Speaker 27: in every way, shape or form, and all the girls

1356
01:11:56,027 --> 01:11:58,827
Speaker 27: just come out with confidence and energy and this year

1357
01:11:58,867 --> 01:12:01,107
Speaker 27: the culture has been fantastic for the Super Smash.

1358
01:12:01,187 --> 01:12:04,427
Speaker 2: First, how do you reckon your match up against Auckland?

1359
01:12:05,667 --> 01:12:08,147
Speaker 26: Yeah, allkinds great side. They've got a lot of fight

1360
01:12:08,307 --> 01:12:10,387
Speaker 26: and you know they're bet us once in the in

1361
01:12:10,507 --> 01:12:12,067
Speaker 26: the kind of the ten game.

1362
01:12:12,187 --> 01:12:13,307
Speaker 7: I think it was a fourth.

1363
01:12:13,147 --> 01:12:16,147
Speaker 26: Round that we played them, and you know, I think, yeah,

1364
01:12:16,147 --> 01:12:17,427
Speaker 26: they've got a lot of fight, but so do we

1365
01:12:17,587 --> 01:12:19,587
Speaker 26: and I think, you know, I back us one hundred percent.

1366
01:12:19,707 --> 01:12:22,707
Speaker 7: But Auckland, you know, have a great depth all the

1367
01:12:22,747 --> 01:12:23,667
Speaker 7: way back into eleven.

1368
01:12:23,787 --> 01:12:26,547
Speaker 26: So you know, all we need to do is, you know,

1369
01:12:26,667 --> 01:12:28,987
Speaker 26: it's just another game of cricket, right, twenty two yards

1370
01:12:29,307 --> 01:12:31,627
Speaker 26: one hundred what for to one hundred and forty two

1371
01:12:31,627 --> 01:12:32,467
Speaker 26: grand ball like that?

1372
01:12:32,947 --> 01:12:34,787
Speaker 7: That is it is just another game of cricket and

1373
01:12:35,067 --> 01:12:37,387
Speaker 7: ultimately we know how to win. So Auckland will put

1374
01:12:37,427 --> 01:12:38,787
Speaker 7: on a good fight. Will be interesting game.

1375
01:12:38,907 --> 01:12:40,907
Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll be looking forward to it. In terms of

1376
01:12:40,947 --> 01:12:43,907
Speaker 2: the overs that you bowl, you specifically bowl during a

1377
01:12:44,427 --> 01:12:47,867
Speaker 2: twenty over innings, have you landed on a preference as

1378
01:12:47,947 --> 01:12:50,067
Speaker 2: far as where you bowl is concerned, do you prefer

1379
01:12:50,147 --> 01:12:52,387
Speaker 2: the ball all for it once and two here too there?

1380
01:12:52,587 --> 01:12:53,747
Speaker 2: How does that sort of play out?

1381
01:12:54,547 --> 01:12:54,747
Speaker 24: Yeah?

1382
01:12:54,827 --> 01:12:58,587
Speaker 26: I think I kind of bowl based on what the

1383
01:12:58,627 --> 01:13:01,507
Speaker 26: situation is. And you know, whatever the game requires, our

1384
01:13:01,547 --> 01:13:04,667
Speaker 26: bowl accordingly. And you know, you have conversations with with

1385
01:13:04,827 --> 01:13:07,307
Speaker 26: your captain around what what that looks like for you,

1386
01:13:07,507 --> 01:13:09,787
Speaker 26: and you know if you're parent bowling and the powerplay

1387
01:13:09,907 --> 01:13:12,347
Speaker 26: bowling outside the power play, those conversations chef too.

1388
01:13:12,547 --> 01:13:14,307
Speaker 7: So yeah, kind of just bowled.

1389
01:13:15,787 --> 01:13:19,027
Speaker 26: And yeah, it just bolted to the situation that's.

1390
01:13:18,627 --> 01:13:19,587
Speaker 7: Given to me in the game.

1391
01:13:19,827 --> 01:13:21,307
Speaker 2: How's Jess Kerr going as captain?

1392
01:13:22,067 --> 01:13:25,547
Speaker 7: Oh, she's awesome. Yeah, ability to communicate is awesome.

1393
01:13:26,827 --> 01:13:28,987
Speaker 26: You know when you know she had her first came

1394
01:13:29,427 --> 01:13:32,267
Speaker 26: was unfortunate because she had to captain with a left

1395
01:13:32,307 --> 01:13:35,067
Speaker 26: hand or right hander, and you know, we had time constraints,

1396
01:13:35,107 --> 01:13:36,627
Speaker 26: we had to really get through our overs. But she

1397
01:13:36,707 --> 01:13:38,547
Speaker 26: did such a great job and you know, the team

1398
01:13:38,627 --> 01:13:40,147
Speaker 26: came together and yeah, no.

1399
01:13:40,227 --> 01:13:40,747
Speaker 7: She's awesome.

1400
01:13:40,827 --> 01:13:43,147
Speaker 2: All right, Well, another final for the Blaze to look

1401
01:13:43,187 --> 01:13:45,667
Speaker 2: forward to. Zara, Congrats on the part you've played to

1402
01:13:45,707 --> 01:13:47,827
Speaker 2: get the Blaze to this point or the best as

1403
01:13:47,867 --> 01:13:50,387
Speaker 2: you look to cap it up this afternoon at Heckley Oval.

1404
01:13:50,627 --> 01:13:52,867
Speaker 2: Thank you so much, no, thank you, zara'z Aarrigently they're

1405
01:13:52,907 --> 01:13:55,307
Speaker 2: out of the Wellington Blaze, so ten past two, about

1406
01:13:55,347 --> 01:13:57,587
Speaker 2: half an hour away from a start and that one

1407
01:13:57,627 --> 01:14:00,267
Speaker 2: will have toss details for you in the next little

1408
01:14:00,267 --> 01:14:03,627
Speaker 2: while Wellington blaze for Auckland hearts for the Super Smash

1409
01:14:03,707 --> 01:14:07,107
Speaker 2: Women's Grand Final. To follow is the me bj Watling

1410
01:14:07,187 --> 01:14:09,827
Speaker 2: with us after two to chat about his Northern Brave

1411
01:14:09,907 --> 01:14:12,387
Speaker 2: as they come up against Canterbury and the men's final.

1412
01:14:12,707 --> 01:14:14,867
Speaker 2: Take a break, come back, get you back Across the Tasman.

1413
01:14:14,907 --> 01:14:17,627
Speaker 2: Australian correspondent Adam Peacock with us after this.

1414
01:14:18,747 --> 01:14:22,227
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1415
01:14:22,307 --> 01:14:26,187
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Speaker 2: One forty five Sturda afternoon. Let's get you Across the

1418
01:14:31,107 --> 01:14:34,587
Speaker 2: Tasman a regular catch up with Australian correspondent Adam Peacock,

1419
01:14:34,587 --> 01:14:37,547
Speaker 2: who's been watching the tennis as we all have. What

1420
01:14:37,667 --> 01:14:41,147
Speaker 2: was the biggest surprise, Adam Carlos el Karez nearly losing

1421
01:14:41,307 --> 01:14:49,307
Speaker 2: or Yannick Center actually losing in these two epic Semiskini.

1422
01:14:47,107 --> 01:14:51,707
Speaker 17: Yew, I'd have to say Senner losing, but Djokovic winning

1423
01:14:51,747 --> 01:14:54,907
Speaker 17: that I didn't have that no way, after the way

1424
01:14:54,987 --> 01:14:57,467
Speaker 17: that Novak played in the quarter final and then Basti

1425
01:14:57,547 --> 01:15:00,707
Speaker 17: had to retire and Jokovic said he was he was

1426
01:15:00,747 --> 01:15:04,587
Speaker 17: booking playing ticket home, so that that was quite remarkable.

1427
01:15:04,587 --> 01:15:08,147
Speaker 17: I think I saw senators handling comfortably. But in the end,

1428
01:15:09,227 --> 01:15:10,347
Speaker 17: the legend lives on.

1429
01:15:11,147 --> 01:15:13,187
Speaker 2: So having got there, then is this kind of written

1430
01:15:13,227 --> 01:15:17,027
Speaker 2: in the tennis stars? Are the tennis gods sitting around

1431
01:15:17,107 --> 01:15:20,347
Speaker 2: writing this unlikely storyline? And it's going to be twenty

1432
01:15:20,507 --> 01:15:23,867
Speaker 2: five for Novak late tomorrow night or even into Monday

1433
01:15:23,907 --> 01:15:24,787
Speaker 2: morning at some stage.

1434
01:15:25,787 --> 01:15:30,507
Speaker 17: Yeah, well he's given himself a chance. But I'd be

1435
01:15:30,587 --> 01:15:33,187
Speaker 17: hesitant to make a call definitively either way because both

1436
01:15:33,267 --> 01:15:36,827
Speaker 17: were involved in just ridiculous battles last night and yesterday.

1437
01:15:37,667 --> 01:15:41,227
Speaker 17: Obviously Alcaraz for five and a half, Chokovic a little

1438
01:15:41,267 --> 01:15:46,147
Speaker 17: less but no less emotionally training and physically draining as well.

1439
01:15:46,387 --> 01:15:50,107
Speaker 17: So yeah, you basically have to wait and see how

1440
01:15:50,147 --> 01:15:53,987
Speaker 17: they pull up and if they've got any ailments. Chokovich

1441
01:15:54,507 --> 01:15:58,027
Speaker 17: just got something with the shoulder, Alcaraz, maybe something with

1442
01:15:58,107 --> 01:16:02,547
Speaker 17: an a ductor a growin area. So yeah, it's ol

1443
01:16:02,627 --> 01:16:05,027
Speaker 17: Karaze is the favorite and deserves to be. I got

1444
01:16:05,587 --> 01:16:08,627
Speaker 17: on fairness and balance our gros Winston ash But it

1445
01:16:08,707 --> 01:16:10,627
Speaker 17: might not be totally about that. It might be a

1446
01:16:10,667 --> 01:16:13,827
Speaker 17: bit about who's who's carrying something more.

1447
01:16:13,707 --> 01:16:14,427
Speaker 12: Than the other guys.

1448
01:16:15,667 --> 01:16:17,747
Speaker 2: We've talked. We've talked a lot about Alex de Minue

1449
01:16:17,827 --> 01:16:20,907
Speaker 2: you and I as your number one male tennis player

1450
01:16:21,027 --> 01:16:23,547
Speaker 2: right now, and I see after his lost to Alcarez

1451
01:16:23,587 --> 01:16:25,707
Speaker 2: in the quarter finals, which is no disgrace. Losing to

1452
01:16:25,747 --> 01:16:27,987
Speaker 2: the world number one, no disgrace. There's just been a

1453
01:16:28,067 --> 01:16:31,347
Speaker 2: suggestion I've seen in some quarters that that this is

1454
01:16:31,427 --> 01:16:33,947
Speaker 2: his ceiling. He's going to reach quarterfinals, He's going to

1455
01:16:34,187 --> 01:16:36,947
Speaker 2: perhaps reach the odd semi finally, he is never going

1456
01:16:37,027 --> 01:16:40,747
Speaker 2: to win a major. What what what's your what's your

1457
01:16:40,787 --> 01:16:43,187
Speaker 2: assessment of Alex ste maneuver?

1458
01:16:44,427 --> 01:16:47,347
Speaker 17: Yeah, well, how it is right now, that's probably around

1459
01:16:47,387 --> 01:16:50,507
Speaker 17: the mark and Alex, I'm not sure he'd want to

1460
01:16:50,667 --> 01:16:54,627
Speaker 17: readily admit it, but that's probably fair. If alco Is

1461
01:16:54,667 --> 01:16:56,667
Speaker 17: and Center are there at quarter final time and he's

1462
01:16:56,707 --> 01:16:59,867
Speaker 17: playing them, he's he's got an immense challenge to overcome

1463
01:16:59,947 --> 01:17:01,827
Speaker 17: what is a horrible record against them, and it's no

1464
01:17:01,947 --> 01:17:05,787
Speaker 17: accident that it is zip in nineteen combined. But what

1465
01:17:05,947 --> 01:17:07,987
Speaker 17: Alex always does with the insight to that is that

1466
01:17:08,107 --> 01:17:12,787
Speaker 17: he always gives himself the best possible chance by doing

1467
01:17:12,867 --> 01:17:15,027
Speaker 17: everything he can with his tennis and his and his

1468
01:17:15,147 --> 01:17:21,467
Speaker 17: body to be ready to oppose these guys. And occasionally

1469
01:17:21,667 --> 01:17:24,227
Speaker 17: they're they're going to love at a major with not

1470
01:17:24,387 --> 01:17:26,307
Speaker 17: in the greatest condition, or they're knocked out in an

1471
01:17:26,307 --> 01:17:28,467
Speaker 17: earlier round. It hasn't happened so much in the last

1472
01:17:28,507 --> 01:17:30,387
Speaker 17: couple of years, but this is not going to go

1473
01:17:30,467 --> 01:17:31,987
Speaker 17: on to the next five years. There's going to be

1474
01:17:32,067 --> 01:17:34,587
Speaker 17: times when cinner Rock's up to a major and or

1475
01:17:34,667 --> 01:17:37,667
Speaker 17: Outparaz and they're not at their top. So that's where

1476
01:17:38,347 --> 01:17:41,707
Speaker 17: Demon can take advantage and possibly make that final and

1477
01:17:41,827 --> 01:17:44,907
Speaker 17: then on his day, you never know. So it's I

1478
01:17:44,907 --> 01:17:48,347
Speaker 17: wouldn't put it down the luck. I maybe put it

1479
01:17:48,427 --> 01:17:52,427
Speaker 17: down to giving yourself an opportunity to take advantage of

1480
01:17:52,507 --> 01:17:56,347
Speaker 17: someone else's misfortune as much as anything. But he'll be

1481
01:17:56,467 --> 01:17:58,067
Speaker 17: He'll be in the second week of majors for a

1482
01:17:58,147 --> 01:18:00,427
Speaker 17: very long time, and you never know what would.

1483
01:18:00,187 --> 01:18:03,187
Speaker 2: Hat is the ust Running Open still as popular as

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Speaker 2: ever you've been the last couple of weeks. Still the

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01:18:05,787 --> 01:18:07,627
Speaker 2: crowds of lots of excitement.

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01:18:08,787 --> 01:18:12,027
Speaker 17: Yeah, it's an event and Tennis Australia have done a

1487
01:18:12,107 --> 01:18:14,947
Speaker 17: damn good job to make it an event rather than

1488
01:18:15,107 --> 01:18:18,227
Speaker 17: just the tennis tournament. So when I say event, it's yeah,

1489
01:18:18,467 --> 01:18:21,547
Speaker 17: people go because they want that hit of I call

1490
01:18:21,627 --> 01:18:23,907
Speaker 17: the tennis is in town. Let's go, be like the circus.

1491
01:18:24,307 --> 01:18:27,347
Speaker 17: Let's go. It'll be fun, you know. But once February

1492
01:18:27,387 --> 01:18:31,147
Speaker 17: comes around, they get back to their usual sporting pursuits

1493
01:18:31,227 --> 01:18:33,587
Speaker 17: or their other pursuits. They might follow it from afar

1494
01:18:33,867 --> 01:18:38,387
Speaker 17: of players, like the women's tour goes to the Middle East,

1495
01:18:38,467 --> 01:18:42,347
Speaker 17: the men's tour goes back to European indoors and South

1496
01:18:42,387 --> 01:18:45,107
Speaker 17: American play courts. I'm not entirely sure how many of

1497
01:18:45,147 --> 01:18:47,467
Speaker 17: the people over one point two million of them who

1498
01:18:47,467 --> 01:18:49,907
Speaker 17: have come through the gates this week will be intently

1499
01:18:49,947 --> 01:18:51,467
Speaker 17: watching all of that in February, if you know what

1500
01:18:51,547 --> 01:18:54,387
Speaker 17: I mean. It's about the occasion at the event, and

1501
01:18:54,907 --> 01:18:56,507
Speaker 17: that's where Tennis Australia are really.

1502
01:18:56,467 --> 01:19:00,707
Speaker 2: Knowled them and sad news this week on another topic,

1503
01:19:01,147 --> 01:19:05,227
Speaker 2: the passing of Righto Vitsch hugely respected figure in Australian

1504
01:19:05,267 --> 01:19:09,587
Speaker 2: football aja sixty four after a battle with cancer or

1505
01:19:09,627 --> 01:19:13,147
Speaker 2: what will run over such as legacy and Australian football

1506
01:19:13,227 --> 01:19:16,187
Speaker 2: be Yeah, it's just a.

1507
01:19:16,307 --> 01:19:22,387
Speaker 17: Coach, like a football person, every part of him and

1508
01:19:23,307 --> 01:19:25,827
Speaker 17: just a guy who loved coaching being a part of it,

1509
01:19:27,627 --> 01:19:31,827
Speaker 17: instructional value to players and you know his record. You

1510
01:19:31,907 --> 01:19:33,107
Speaker 17: look at it, you go, oh, he had a bit

1511
01:19:33,147 --> 01:19:35,947
Speaker 17: of success with Brisbane, he bounced around, he had some

1512
01:19:36,067 --> 01:19:37,387
Speaker 17: success in the women's.

1513
01:19:37,067 --> 01:19:38,107
Speaker 28: Game, all of that.

1514
01:19:38,267 --> 01:19:43,307
Speaker 17: But that doesn't tell probably the story. Probably it doesn't

1515
01:19:43,307 --> 01:19:45,187
Speaker 17: tell the story of what he was. He would have

1516
01:19:45,267 --> 01:19:47,667
Speaker 17: helped so many players along their journey, whether it be

1517
01:19:47,827 --> 01:19:50,427
Speaker 17: starting out or towards the end or in the middle,

1518
01:19:50,587 --> 01:19:53,707
Speaker 17: given something that they can hang on to. And not

1519
01:19:53,827 --> 01:19:58,507
Speaker 17: too many people over this side of the Tasman looking

1520
01:19:58,587 --> 01:20:00,787
Speaker 17: at it going oh, well he had his faults or

1521
01:20:00,827 --> 01:20:03,827
Speaker 17: whatever like that. There's just the ultimate respect for the

1522
01:20:03,867 --> 01:20:05,627
Speaker 17: guy and what he gave the game and what he

1523
01:20:05,707 --> 01:20:06,707
Speaker 17: gave the people in the game.

1524
01:20:07,347 --> 01:20:09,867
Speaker 2: Yep, here here good stuff and I'm always good to chat.

1525
01:20:09,947 --> 01:20:13,347
Speaker 2: Makee drive safe and well we'll chat again. The tennis

1526
01:20:13,427 --> 01:20:15,027
Speaker 2: is all done. Do you sort of feel a sense

1527
01:20:15,067 --> 01:20:16,587
Speaker 2: of deflation at the end of it all or is

1528
01:20:16,627 --> 01:20:18,067
Speaker 2: it more like, oh now I can relax.

1529
01:20:20,187 --> 01:20:23,467
Speaker 17: No, it's yeah, because it has that definitey e end.

1530
01:20:23,587 --> 01:20:25,587
Speaker 17: You go, yeah, I'll bring on Sunday night. I can't

1531
01:20:25,627 --> 01:20:27,507
Speaker 17: wait for Sunday night now and to night as well.

1532
01:20:27,627 --> 01:20:30,227
Speaker 17: But yeah, it's just you know the one the sporting

1533
01:20:30,267 --> 01:20:33,747
Speaker 17: calendars like Piney, there's always something to watch and at

1534
01:20:33,827 --> 01:20:37,307
Speaker 17: the old football overhear starts next week, so I think

1535
01:20:37,347 --> 01:20:39,587
Speaker 17: a lot of my five all time will be focused

1536
01:20:39,627 --> 01:20:41,067
Speaker 17: on that as.

1537
01:20:40,987 --> 01:20:43,107
Speaker 2: We're not going to be and we're not gonna be

1538
01:20:43,147 --> 01:20:45,667
Speaker 2: short of conversation. Always good chatting mate, We'll do it

1539
01:20:45,707 --> 01:20:49,347
Speaker 2: again next weekend. Jeez, bunny everyone, you have a good one.

1540
01:20:49,387 --> 01:20:53,307
Speaker 2: To Adam Peacock, Australian correspondent. As always on Saturday afternoons,

1541
01:20:53,347 --> 01:20:54,707
Speaker 2: eight Away from Two News Talks.

1542
01:20:54,627 --> 01:21:00,667
Speaker 1: Breaking down the Hail Mary's and the every field weekend

1543
01:21:00,787 --> 01:21:04,027
Speaker 1: sport with Jason Pin News Talk ZMB.

1544
01:21:04,467 --> 01:21:07,707
Speaker 2: Five to two. Awkar FC play Perth Glory tonight over

1545
01:21:07,787 --> 01:21:11,107
Speaker 2: in Perth next weekend over White Tonguey weekend they take

1546
01:21:11,187 --> 01:21:14,587
Speaker 2: on Sydney FC at Go Medias Datium. It's a week

1547
01:21:14,627 --> 01:21:18,427
Speaker 2: today Saturday February seven. That's going to say January Goodness Man,

1548
01:21:18,787 --> 01:21:21,107
Speaker 2: seventh of February. So week today, five o'clock kick off.

1549
01:21:21,227 --> 01:21:23,147
Speaker 2: If you would like to be there and you're going

1550
01:21:23,187 --> 01:21:25,547
Speaker 2: to be in Auckland across the long weekend, I've got

1551
01:21:25,587 --> 01:21:29,107
Speaker 2: a sixth ticket family pass up for grabs. So if

1552
01:21:29,147 --> 01:21:31,267
Speaker 2: you're going to be in and around Auckland and want

1553
01:21:31,307 --> 01:21:34,507
Speaker 2: to take five people and yourself presumably along to the football,

1554
01:21:34,947 --> 01:21:39,987
Speaker 2: simply text AFC and your name to nine two niney two.

1555
01:21:40,027 --> 01:21:43,627
Speaker 2: Similar as that AFC your name sent it off to

1556
01:21:43,707 --> 01:21:45,547
Speaker 2: nine two nine two and you're in the drawer to

1557
01:21:45,667 --> 01:21:49,027
Speaker 2: win the sixth ticket family pass to watch Auckland FC

1558
01:21:49,107 --> 01:21:51,947
Speaker 2: against Sydney FC. This will be a cracker, could well

1559
01:21:52,027 --> 01:21:54,227
Speaker 2: be depending on results across this weekend a top of

1560
01:21:54,267 --> 01:21:58,067
Speaker 2: the table clashed AFC your name to nine two nine

1561
01:21:58,107 --> 01:22:01,467
Speaker 2: two for the sixth ticket family pass. After two o'clock

1562
01:22:01,547 --> 01:22:04,747
Speaker 2: we'll get back to cricket. BJ Watling as coach of

1563
01:22:04,827 --> 01:22:07,587
Speaker 2: the Northern Brave Men. They are in the Super Smash

1564
01:22:07,707 --> 01:22:11,387
Speaker 2: Men's Final from around five to six tonight. They take

1565
01:22:11,427 --> 01:22:14,627
Speaker 2: on Canterbury. This is at Hagley. So even though Northern

1566
01:22:14,627 --> 01:22:18,067
Speaker 2: were top qualifiers, the way the competition has structured is

1567
01:22:18,107 --> 01:22:20,507
Speaker 2: that they have a grand final location. In fact, the

1568
01:22:20,627 --> 01:22:23,467
Speaker 2: preliminary finals yesterday and the grand finals today all at Hagley,

1569
01:22:23,747 --> 01:22:25,907
Speaker 2: so in many ways it's a home game for Canterbury,

1570
01:22:25,947 --> 01:22:29,467
Speaker 2: but Northern Brave other top qualifiers. Anyway, BJ Watley're going

1571
01:22:29,547 --> 01:22:32,547
Speaker 2: to chat to us after two and Andrew Pragnell is

1572
01:22:32,587 --> 01:22:36,187
Speaker 2: also on the show CEO of New Zealand Football. They

1573
01:22:36,307 --> 01:22:41,387
Speaker 2: release some statistics yesterday about participation numbers showing that football

1574
01:22:41,507 --> 01:22:44,787
Speaker 2: just continues to grow at all levels in our country

1575
01:22:44,787 --> 01:22:46,627
Speaker 2: and that's going to get a boost again this year

1576
01:22:46,667 --> 01:22:48,987
Speaker 2: with the World Cup coming up. So Andrew Pragnell after

1577
01:22:49,067 --> 01:22:49,547
Speaker 2: two as well.

1578
01:22:51,267 --> 01:22:54,067
Speaker 1: The only place to discuss the biggest sports issues on

1579
01:22:54,547 --> 01:22:58,067
Speaker 1: and after fields, it's all on Weekend Sport.

1580
01:22:57,827 --> 01:23:02,667
Speaker 6: With Jason Vade on your home of Sport new Talks.

1581
01:23:03,947 --> 01:23:06,107
Speaker 2: Hello there, this is Weekend Sport on News Talks dB

1582
01:23:06,227 --> 01:23:08,667
Speaker 2: and three some beverage on the radio. After that with

1583
01:23:08,867 --> 01:23:12,347
Speaker 2: the Weekend Collective Saturday edition, we want to cover off

1584
01:23:12,387 --> 01:23:15,667
Speaker 2: some crickets shortly. BJ Watlin's on the show. He's the

1585
01:23:15,707 --> 01:23:18,467
Speaker 2: coach of the Northern Brave. They take on the Canterbury

1586
01:23:18,947 --> 01:23:21,907
Speaker 2: they called the Kings. Yeah, Canterbury Kings and the men's

1587
01:23:21,947 --> 01:23:26,307
Speaker 2: Super Smash final later on today at Hagley Oval. As

1588
01:23:26,387 --> 01:23:29,507
Speaker 2: you've heard from Elliott in our Sports news, the tass

1589
01:23:29,547 --> 01:23:32,827
Speaker 2: has been held in the women's final, won by Auckland.

1590
01:23:32,867 --> 01:23:36,467
Speaker 2: They will bat first against the Wellington Blaze. That game

1591
01:23:36,547 --> 01:23:38,627
Speaker 2: underway very shortly. We'll keep tabs on it for you.

1592
01:23:38,867 --> 01:23:43,147
Speaker 2: Andrew Pragnell, CEO of New Zealand Footballers with us talking

1593
01:23:43,227 --> 01:23:47,587
Speaker 2: about the participation stats and whether, in fact the growth

1594
01:23:47,667 --> 01:23:52,147
Speaker 2: of the game has put any pressure on things like facilities, grounds,

1595
01:23:52,547 --> 01:23:57,107
Speaker 2: coaches and how much of a boost A further boost

1596
01:23:57,107 --> 01:23:58,547
Speaker 2: does he expect from the All Whites going to the

1597
01:23:58,547 --> 01:24:01,307
Speaker 2: World Cup later in the year, because when New Zealand

1598
01:24:01,347 --> 01:24:03,547
Speaker 2: hosted or co hosted the Women's World Cup back in

1599
01:24:03,627 --> 01:24:08,027
Speaker 2: twenty twenty three, there was a huge boost in female

1600
01:24:08,027 --> 01:24:11,227
Speaker 2: playing numbers, but general playing numbers, and you'd have to

1601
01:24:11,267 --> 01:24:14,267
Speaker 2: think with the All Whites back at the World Cup

1602
01:24:14,867 --> 01:24:17,067
Speaker 2: in the middle of this year, is going to be

1603
01:24:17,147 --> 01:24:20,027
Speaker 2: a spike in enthusiasm for the game again. So Andrew

1604
01:24:20,107 --> 01:24:22,027
Speaker 2: pregnant on the show. We'll cover off the breakers as well.

1605
01:24:22,667 --> 01:24:25,267
Speaker 2: Our lines of communication are always open for you. O

1606
01:24:25,347 --> 01:24:27,827
Speaker 2: eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is our phone number

1607
01:24:27,867 --> 01:24:29,987
Speaker 2: nine two nine two for your text messages and emails

1608
01:24:30,027 --> 01:24:33,547
Speaker 2: to Jason at newstalkstb dot co dot nz. Coming up

1609
01:24:33,587 --> 01:24:36,107
Speaker 2: eight past two, as we always like to do at

1610
01:24:36,107 --> 01:24:38,107
Speaker 2: around about this time on the show. Time to get

1611
01:24:38,147 --> 01:24:40,347
Speaker 2: you across some of the things you may have missed,

1612
01:24:41,747 --> 01:24:45,947
Speaker 2: and we don't discriminate here among pleasant sports stories and

1613
01:24:46,067 --> 01:24:48,627
Speaker 2: unpleasant ones, we just cover them all.

1614
01:24:48,707 --> 01:24:48,867
Speaker 29: Off.

1615
01:24:49,587 --> 01:24:52,467
Speaker 2: Let's go to the A League in their five hundredth

1616
01:24:52,587 --> 01:24:58,107
Speaker 2: A League match, Wellington Phoenix looking to celebrate in appropriate fashion,

1617
01:24:58,547 --> 01:24:59,147
Speaker 2: playing is.

1618
01:24:59,147 --> 01:25:01,267
Speaker 30: Doing well to time and keep up is a.

1619
01:25:03,747 --> 01:25:07,027
Speaker 2: Goodness me A five is a go to the top

1620
01:25:07,827 --> 01:25:09,667
Speaker 2: of the golden boot standings.

1621
01:25:09,787 --> 01:25:14,107
Speaker 31: Let us green up and Patrick features their post He's

1622
01:25:14,267 --> 01:25:19,267
Speaker 31: blasting at home seven for the number seven and Wellington

1623
01:25:19,387 --> 01:25:20,067
Speaker 31: to Nilahead.

1624
01:25:20,147 --> 01:25:23,227
Speaker 2: Now yeah they were turnill ahead but at all unraveled

1625
01:25:23,707 --> 01:25:29,307
Speaker 2: late to Melbourne City Center, turkis around city. We chased toy.

1626
01:25:29,147 --> 01:25:32,427
Speaker 30: Loama's giving it away, Kelly Heill saves the Pitty's gonna

1627
01:25:32,467 --> 01:25:37,187
Speaker 30: make it too, an era from Bill tuy Loma, who's

1628
01:25:37,227 --> 01:25:41,907
Speaker 30: been so good tonight, seized upon by men and Mamti

1629
01:25:42,507 --> 01:25:43,707
Speaker 30: and in the point.

1630
01:25:43,467 --> 01:25:46,547
Speaker 2: Of an eye from two nil. Down City are back

1631
01:25:46,667 --> 01:25:48,907
Speaker 2: to two a piece and we don't have the audio

1632
01:25:48,987 --> 01:25:52,347
Speaker 2: for you. But Wellington also missed a late penalty which

1633
01:25:52,387 --> 01:25:53,987
Speaker 2: would have given them a three to two win, as

1634
01:25:54,107 --> 01:25:57,947
Speaker 2: it was two two. Because the table is so tight,

1635
01:25:58,027 --> 01:26:00,867
Speaker 2: it does keep them in and around the top six.

1636
01:26:01,347 --> 01:26:04,947
Speaker 2: Ludia co is in mid season form already in the

1637
01:26:05,027 --> 01:26:08,787
Speaker 2: season opening of Champions I scale it one to ten.

1638
01:26:08,867 --> 01:26:09,507
Speaker 29: How tough is this?

1639
01:26:11,467 --> 01:26:13,587
Speaker 6: Only because there's nothing behind that flag?

1640
01:26:13,667 --> 01:26:16,107
Speaker 22: It looks, but she has lots of greens to use

1641
01:26:16,587 --> 01:26:17,347
Speaker 22: and she's Lydia.

1642
01:26:17,707 --> 01:26:22,587
Speaker 2: Well, there's always that proviso. Isn't it okay? Piece of key,

1643
01:26:23,267 --> 01:26:27,187
Speaker 2: I'll do it. Wow, she's gonna go twelve to twelve

1644
01:26:27,227 --> 01:26:29,907
Speaker 2: and scrambling This week here Lydia covered a tie for

1645
01:26:29,947 --> 01:26:33,507
Speaker 2: the lead after two rounds there and a breakout performance

1646
01:26:33,627 --> 01:26:37,587
Speaker 2: from Kareem low Pez has led the Breakers to a

1647
01:26:37,787 --> 01:26:40,147
Speaker 2: very important win over Melbourne United.

1648
01:26:40,547 --> 01:26:42,187
Speaker 20: It just had the size advantages.

1649
01:26:42,307 --> 01:26:49,307
Speaker 3: Kareem these O, Kareem Lopez Lass here boydri Jaska Lopez.

1650
01:26:49,867 --> 01:26:53,987
Speaker 2: Then he get into pain again, escapes who finish.

1651
01:26:54,387 --> 01:26:55,627
Speaker 22: I think he's going to be one of those.

1652
01:26:55,507 --> 01:26:57,467
Speaker 2: Guys that you say, oh I saw him way.

1653
01:26:57,387 --> 01:26:57,907
Speaker 19: Back when.

1654
01:26:59,547 --> 01:27:00,627
Speaker 2: Cool Dream.

1655
01:27:02,187 --> 01:27:05,947
Speaker 30: The train to get it in the Yasta Kareem Lopez

1656
01:27:05,987 --> 01:27:08,747
Speaker 30: it out ninety thirty one puts up at night.

1657
01:27:09,187 --> 01:27:09,867
Speaker 2: It takes the.

1658
01:27:09,987 --> 01:27:14,147
Speaker 1: Leads analyzing every view from every angle in the sporting

1659
01:27:14,227 --> 01:27:17,667
Speaker 1: world weekends for it with Jason Pie they call eight

1660
01:27:17,747 --> 01:27:19,867
Speaker 1: hundred and eighty eighty News Talks.

1661
01:27:19,627 --> 01:27:22,507
Speaker 2: NB, News TALKSB will have more from the basketball before

1662
01:27:22,587 --> 01:27:24,867
Speaker 2: three o'clock when I hear from Karem Lopez and also

1663
01:27:25,347 --> 01:27:27,307
Speaker 2: Terry Copen and the coach of the Breakers. They just

1664
01:27:27,387 --> 01:27:30,107
Speaker 2: keep on hanging in, don't they. They keep that door Ajar.

1665
01:27:31,067 --> 01:27:34,827
Speaker 2: They're back in action tomorrow actually against the jack Jumpers

1666
01:27:35,387 --> 01:27:39,427
Speaker 2: in Tasmania. The Canterbury men, meantime, will contest their sixth

1667
01:27:39,547 --> 01:27:44,427
Speaker 2: consecutive Grand Final and Crickets T twenty Super Smash trouncing

1668
01:27:44,507 --> 01:27:48,787
Speaker 2: Auckland by nine wickets in the preliminary elimination final in

1669
01:27:48,907 --> 01:27:51,307
Speaker 2: christ Church yesterday. The Kings rolled the aces for just

1670
01:27:51,427 --> 01:27:55,307
Speaker 2: one hundred and six. Canterbury up to Chad Bows then

1671
01:27:55,387 --> 01:27:58,107
Speaker 2: thumped and I'm beaten fifty nine off thirty one balls

1672
01:27:58,547 --> 01:28:02,067
Speaker 2: to secure a victory for Canterbury with a whopping nine

1673
01:28:02,187 --> 01:28:05,227
Speaker 2: and a half overs to spare. So Canterbury have earned

1674
01:28:05,267 --> 01:28:08,507
Speaker 2: the right to play top qualifiers the Northern Brave in

1675
01:28:08,587 --> 01:28:11,747
Speaker 2: this afternoon's final at the same venue that goes into

1676
01:28:11,787 --> 01:28:15,267
Speaker 2: the evening. Five to six is the scheduled time for

1677
01:28:15,347 --> 01:28:19,307
Speaker 2: the first ball. Brave coach is former black Cap BJ Watling.

1678
01:28:19,667 --> 01:28:22,227
Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us. You had just the one loss

1679
01:28:22,707 --> 01:28:26,187
Speaker 2: and around robin five wins, a tie, three rainouts. So

1680
01:28:26,507 --> 01:28:28,707
Speaker 2: how happy were you with the way your team played

1681
01:28:29,107 --> 01:28:30,987
Speaker 2: during the T twenty regular season?

1682
01:28:31,707 --> 01:28:34,107
Speaker 25: Oh yeah, yeah, no, obviously very pleased the way the

1683
01:28:34,187 --> 01:28:37,907
Speaker 25: boys have gone about their work this year, and like

1684
01:28:38,027 --> 01:28:40,267
Speaker 25: you said, there are five I think was five.

1685
01:28:40,147 --> 01:28:42,867
Speaker 9: Wins and a tie in there as well, bit of everything.

1686
01:28:42,947 --> 01:28:47,147
Speaker 25: But I think the consistency that we've showed in a

1687
01:28:47,507 --> 01:28:51,427
Speaker 25: tough format to find consistencies been very good. And obviously

1688
01:28:51,467 --> 01:28:54,387
Speaker 25: a couple of standout players, but as a as a team,

1689
01:28:54,467 --> 01:28:56,787
Speaker 25: I know most of the guys stepped up in terms

1690
01:28:56,827 --> 01:28:59,147
Speaker 25: of making an impact on the game throughout the season.

1691
01:28:59,267 --> 01:29:02,547
Speaker 25: So yeah, I think whatever happens today, we'll look back

1692
01:29:02,587 --> 01:29:04,907
Speaker 25: at the season and say that we've made some made

1693
01:29:04,947 --> 01:29:06,147
Speaker 25: some good games this year.

1694
01:29:06,347 --> 01:29:08,027
Speaker 2: Well, let's look at a couple of year standout players.

1695
01:29:08,067 --> 01:29:11,307
Speaker 2: Cut to net Clark stands Out competition's top run scorer

1696
01:29:11,867 --> 01:29:15,227
Speaker 2: three hundred and ninety eight, averaging nearly eighty striking at

1697
01:29:15,267 --> 01:29:18,307
Speaker 2: one hundred and seventy six. What's made him so effective

1698
01:29:18,347 --> 01:29:19,147
Speaker 2: for you this season?

1699
01:29:20,427 --> 01:29:23,507
Speaker 9: Poh, It's a good question, isn't it. I think just

1700
01:29:23,547 --> 01:29:24,787
Speaker 9: the way that he's gone about it.

1701
01:29:26,387 --> 01:29:29,467
Speaker 25: As I said, it's a tough format to find that consistency,

1702
01:29:29,547 --> 01:29:31,307
Speaker 25: and he's done it over and over again for us

1703
01:29:31,387 --> 01:29:36,227
Speaker 25: this year. He's kept things pretty simple while putting pressure

1704
01:29:36,267 --> 01:29:38,747
Speaker 25: back on the bowlers as well. He certainly found a

1705
01:29:38,787 --> 01:29:42,507
Speaker 25: method this year to obviously have the season that's that

1706
01:29:42,627 --> 01:29:46,267
Speaker 25: he's had. So Yeah, obviously a huge part of our campaign,

1707
01:29:46,387 --> 01:29:48,147
Speaker 25: and I think the way.

1708
01:29:48,027 --> 01:29:51,107
Speaker 9: That he's been striking the ball and maneuver in the

1709
01:29:51,187 --> 01:29:52,707
Speaker 9: field has been outstanding.

1710
01:29:53,067 --> 01:29:55,347
Speaker 2: And Brett Hampton has been a revelation for you as well.

1711
01:29:55,387 --> 01:29:57,827
Speaker 2: You moved him up to three initially and then to

1712
01:29:57,907 --> 01:30:00,147
Speaker 2: open the batting over three hundred runs for him this season,

1713
01:30:00,587 --> 01:30:03,827
Speaker 2: striking at one seventy two. What sort of conversations BJ

1714
01:30:04,027 --> 01:30:06,107
Speaker 2: did you have with him as you as you adapted

1715
01:30:06,187 --> 01:30:08,067
Speaker 2: him to this slightly different role.

1716
01:30:08,947 --> 01:30:10,427
Speaker 9: No, not too many, to be honest.

1717
01:30:10,627 --> 01:30:14,507
Speaker 25: I think him is a pretty free player and look,

1718
01:30:14,547 --> 01:30:17,667
Speaker 25: I think he's enjoyed the power playovers. I know that

1719
01:30:17,867 --> 01:30:20,907
Speaker 25: obviously there's only two out and so his ability to

1720
01:30:21,587 --> 01:30:23,667
Speaker 25: get over the top of the field and through the

1721
01:30:23,707 --> 01:30:26,907
Speaker 25: field's been been outstanding. And he's just been able to

1722
01:30:26,907 --> 01:30:31,427
Speaker 25: play with that freedom this season and he's executed extremely well.

1723
01:30:31,907 --> 01:30:33,587
Speaker 9: He's obviously a very powerful player and.

1724
01:30:33,707 --> 01:30:38,107
Speaker 25: Can access most parts of the ground and he's I

1725
01:30:38,147 --> 01:30:41,307
Speaker 25: think he's really enjoyed that power play phase of the game.

1726
01:30:41,907 --> 01:30:45,387
Speaker 2: Scott koger lines leads to bowling attacks seventeen wickets for him,

1727
01:30:45,587 --> 01:30:47,867
Speaker 2: leading wicket taker in the camp. He's been around for

1728
01:30:48,307 --> 01:30:50,987
Speaker 2: a while now, fifteen summers or so. How have you

1729
01:30:51,067 --> 01:30:53,027
Speaker 2: evaluated the way he's bold for you in the in

1730
01:30:53,107 --> 01:30:54,027
Speaker 2: the T twenty format.

1731
01:30:54,707 --> 01:30:58,387
Speaker 9: Yeah, one of our most experienced twenty twenty players, Old Kogie.

1732
01:30:58,547 --> 01:31:00,907
Speaker 25: So he's been around the world, played in a few

1733
01:31:00,947 --> 01:31:04,987
Speaker 25: competitions and understands the game really well, understands his game

1734
01:31:05,067 --> 01:31:07,627
Speaker 25: really well. And there's year we've asked him to do

1735
01:31:07,707 --> 01:31:10,547
Speaker 25: a lot of the hard work into some strong wins

1736
01:31:12,827 --> 01:31:15,987
Speaker 25: and he's managed to execute that that brilliantly throughout the season.

1737
01:31:16,587 --> 01:31:18,867
Speaker 25: He's also done I mean, he's also had an impact

1738
01:31:18,907 --> 01:31:20,827
Speaker 25: with the bat as well down the bottom of the

1739
01:31:20,947 --> 01:31:23,307
Speaker 25: order there to help us finish off some innings. So

1740
01:31:24,467 --> 01:31:27,947
Speaker 25: he knows his game very well, and yeah, he's obviously

1741
01:31:27,987 --> 01:31:30,867
Speaker 25: been a key, key leader within our bowling attack.

1742
01:31:31,187 --> 01:31:33,107
Speaker 2: Can I ask you about Christian Clark as well? He

1743
01:31:33,187 --> 01:31:36,787
Speaker 2: made his ant twenty debuts for New Zealand and India

1744
01:31:36,907 --> 01:31:39,147
Speaker 2: earlier in the month. What do you predict for him

1745
01:31:39,747 --> 01:31:42,187
Speaker 2: both domestically and internationally as well?

1746
01:31:43,027 --> 01:31:45,867
Speaker 9: Yeah, he's obviously got a big future, key all rounder

1747
01:31:45,907 --> 01:31:46,187
Speaker 9: for us.

1748
01:31:46,427 --> 01:31:48,147
Speaker 25: He had a fantastic start to the some of the

1749
01:31:48,227 --> 01:31:50,507
Speaker 25: bats in terms of the for Trophy or the fifty

1750
01:31:50,587 --> 01:31:55,707
Speaker 25: over stuff that we played, scoring his debut hundred, so yeah,

1751
01:31:55,747 --> 01:31:58,787
Speaker 25: and then watching his games over there in India. Pretty

1752
01:31:59,147 --> 01:32:03,867
Speaker 25: pretty tough conditions to get your first cap for New Zealand,

1753
01:32:04,347 --> 01:32:07,067
Speaker 25: and I certainly think he showed that he wasn't out

1754
01:32:07,107 --> 01:32:10,627
Speaker 25: of place at all. He's a pretty chill character and

1755
01:32:10,747 --> 01:32:13,467
Speaker 25: obviously a great addition to the team for us in

1756
01:32:13,547 --> 01:32:14,027
Speaker 25: this final.

1757
01:32:14,347 --> 01:32:18,507
Speaker 2: How much do you talk to your players about their

1758
01:32:18,587 --> 01:32:20,387
Speaker 2: international ambitions.

1759
01:32:22,067 --> 01:32:24,307
Speaker 9: I think we're always talking about it.

1760
01:32:24,707 --> 01:32:26,827
Speaker 25: I know every player and within our group wants to

1761
01:32:26,907 --> 01:32:30,427
Speaker 25: play higher levels, and I guess the game is changing

1762
01:32:30,507 --> 01:32:32,027
Speaker 25: and some of those higher levels might be.

1763
01:32:32,107 --> 01:32:34,627
Speaker 9: Some of the leagues around the world now as well.

1764
01:32:34,787 --> 01:32:38,587
Speaker 25: So yeah, first and foremost, I know a lot of

1765
01:32:38,667 --> 01:32:40,827
Speaker 25: our guys want to play for New Zealand and to

1766
01:32:40,947 --> 01:32:45,707
Speaker 25: do that, it's about performing for us. And yeah, we've

1767
01:32:45,747 --> 01:32:47,867
Speaker 25: certainly got a few young ones that I think are

1768
01:32:47,987 --> 01:32:50,107
Speaker 25: going to push their push their way up into that

1769
01:32:50,587 --> 01:32:52,227
Speaker 25: higher team New Zealand.

1770
01:32:52,307 --> 01:32:54,547
Speaker 2: And obviously you want to support your players doing that.

1771
01:32:54,707 --> 01:32:56,267
Speaker 2: But how helpful has it been to you to have

1772
01:32:56,387 --> 01:33:00,467
Speaker 2: a relatively settled side no major disruption readly a couple

1773
01:33:00,507 --> 01:33:02,627
Speaker 2: of players you know have gone off to play for

1774
01:33:02,747 --> 01:33:05,627
Speaker 2: New Zealand, but you had a reasonably settled side throughout

1775
01:33:05,667 --> 01:33:08,147
Speaker 2: the Super SMA. How helpful has that been for you?

1776
01:33:09,147 --> 01:33:09,347
Speaker 27: Yeah?

1777
01:33:09,387 --> 01:33:09,547
Speaker 25: We have.

1778
01:33:09,707 --> 01:33:11,947
Speaker 9: Yeah, obviously Christian was a little bit in and out.

1779
01:33:12,987 --> 01:33:15,827
Speaker 25: We're also missing Matt Fisher, who's unfortunately picked up a

1780
01:33:15,867 --> 01:33:18,107
Speaker 25: bit of an injury, who was a key player for

1781
01:33:18,227 --> 01:33:21,507
Speaker 25: us at the start of the campaign, someone that's certainly

1782
01:33:21,547 --> 01:33:24,667
Speaker 25: exciting and then pushing for higher onors as well. But

1783
01:33:24,987 --> 01:33:27,427
Speaker 25: it is always nice to have the majority there.

1784
01:33:27,387 --> 01:33:29,507
Speaker 9: That are playing the roles over and over again.

1785
01:33:30,227 --> 01:33:33,347
Speaker 25: I guess adapting to the camp and trying to gain

1786
01:33:33,427 --> 01:33:36,427
Speaker 25: that momentum which we managed to do in the middle

1787
01:33:36,467 --> 01:33:40,107
Speaker 25: part of the campaign. So yeah, I think it always helps.

1788
01:33:42,027 --> 01:33:43,387
Speaker 25: But we're also trying to get rid of some of

1789
01:33:43,427 --> 01:33:47,587
Speaker 25: these guys to the black Cap, so I think that's

1790
01:33:47,627 --> 01:33:50,587
Speaker 25: always the tricky part of I guess sometimes our schedule.

1791
01:33:51,267 --> 01:33:54,067
Speaker 2: Can I breathe this afternoon or this evening, they're sick

1792
01:33:54,387 --> 01:33:57,667
Speaker 2: straight final, They've lost the last five, including two to Northern.

1793
01:33:58,467 --> 01:34:00,667
Speaker 2: I'm sure you can put yourself in Peter Fulton's shoes

1794
01:34:01,187 --> 01:34:04,267
Speaker 2: will then add an extra level of desperation to them,

1795
01:34:04,347 --> 01:34:06,787
Speaker 2: which might play a part in this game tonight or not.

1796
01:34:07,867 --> 01:34:09,387
Speaker 9: I don't think so. I don't think so.

1797
01:34:09,587 --> 01:34:13,827
Speaker 25: I think that they're obviously a quality side to keep

1798
01:34:13,867 --> 01:34:16,147
Speaker 25: giving yourself that opportunity to get into the final.

1799
01:34:16,227 --> 01:34:18,147
Speaker 9: It says a fair bit about their.

1800
01:34:19,147 --> 01:34:21,507
Speaker 25: Their systems and the way they play their game that

1801
01:34:21,627 --> 01:34:23,387
Speaker 25: there are always going to be somewhere near the top

1802
01:34:23,427 --> 01:34:26,507
Speaker 25: of the table, aren't they. So I think twenty twenty

1803
01:34:26,587 --> 01:34:28,427
Speaker 25: is always tough in it it's it's a game where

1804
01:34:28,987 --> 01:34:31,107
Speaker 25: a couple of a couple of players can make a

1805
01:34:31,227 --> 01:34:34,107
Speaker 25: big impact on it, a couple of match winning performances.

1806
01:34:34,267 --> 01:34:37,667
Speaker 25: So it is I think who ever turns up and

1807
01:34:37,787 --> 01:34:40,307
Speaker 25: is able to hand the handle the pressure today, the

1808
01:34:40,387 --> 01:34:42,427
Speaker 25: best that will that will come out on top.

1809
01:34:42,627 --> 01:34:44,347
Speaker 2: What does it feel like BJ in terms of a wicket.

1810
01:34:44,387 --> 01:34:46,827
Speaker 2: I mean, obviously Cannibury only needed ten overs yesterday to

1811
01:34:46,867 --> 01:34:51,027
Speaker 2: beat you know, to beat Auckland in the elimination final.

1812
01:34:51,267 --> 01:34:53,547
Speaker 2: What do you reckon this wicket is in terms of

1813
01:34:53,627 --> 01:34:55,027
Speaker 2: a bat first pass.

1814
01:34:54,747 --> 01:34:58,587
Speaker 9: Score, yeah, I mean, it's always hard to put totals

1815
01:34:58,627 --> 01:34:58,787
Speaker 9: on it.

1816
01:34:59,107 --> 01:35:01,707
Speaker 25: I think in the final there's there's all kinds of

1817
01:35:01,747 --> 01:35:03,627
Speaker 25: different situations and pressures.

1818
01:35:03,267 --> 01:35:08,227
Speaker 9: That may evolve, so hard to read. On last night's game,

1819
01:35:08,267 --> 01:35:10,987
Speaker 9: I don't think Auckland quite were at their best. Obviously

1820
01:35:11,467 --> 01:35:12,187
Speaker 9: they're owned a bit.

1821
01:35:12,107 --> 01:35:14,467
Speaker 25: Of pressure early and it's always hard from the position

1822
01:35:14,587 --> 01:35:18,427
Speaker 25: that they probably got themselves into to present a decent total.

1823
01:35:19,587 --> 01:35:21,467
Speaker 9: So it looked like a decent wicket.

1824
01:35:21,507 --> 01:35:24,747
Speaker 25: Still, I think we're a little crack on a surface

1825
01:35:24,827 --> 01:35:27,587
Speaker 25: down here last week for about fifteen overs, so.

1826
01:35:27,707 --> 01:35:28,947
Speaker 9: Some of the boys would have had a bit of

1827
01:35:28,987 --> 01:35:31,227
Speaker 9: a taste of what to expect out there.

1828
01:35:31,267 --> 01:35:33,587
Speaker 25: But I think it all in order, it'll be a

1829
01:35:33,667 --> 01:35:36,627
Speaker 25: pretty decent wicket and as I said, I think whoever

1830
01:35:36,707 --> 01:35:40,987
Speaker 25: can stay reasonably level throughout this game, we'll certainly put

1831
01:35:41,067 --> 01:35:41,627
Speaker 25: up a good show.

1832
01:35:41,787 --> 01:35:43,467
Speaker 2: All right, looking forward to seeing how it plays out.

1833
01:35:43,507 --> 01:35:45,547
Speaker 2: Thanks for chatting to us on match day, Bj, all

1834
01:35:45,587 --> 01:35:46,507
Speaker 2: the best for the game tonight.

1835
01:35:46,707 --> 01:35:48,147
Speaker 9: No appreciate it. I appreciate it.

1836
01:35:48,187 --> 01:35:50,107
Speaker 2: Thank you, No, thank you mate. That is BJ Watling,

1837
01:35:50,627 --> 01:35:53,267
Speaker 2: coach of the Northern Brave men's side. They take on

1838
01:35:53,347 --> 01:35:55,427
Speaker 2: Canterbury five to six. Tonight. Looks like a nice day

1839
01:35:55,467 --> 01:35:57,827
Speaker 2: in christ Church, good crowded Hagley Over, a nice place

1840
01:35:57,867 --> 01:36:02,387
Speaker 2: to watch a couple of games of cricket. The women's

1841
01:36:02,547 --> 01:36:05,227
Speaker 2: final is underway. The Auckland Hearts won the toss and

1842
01:36:05,587 --> 01:36:10,187
Speaker 2: they sent them selves in, sent themselves in Jeapess used

1843
01:36:10,187 --> 01:36:14,187
Speaker 2: the right terminology. They elected to bat first. Goodness man,

1844
01:36:14,227 --> 01:36:17,067
Speaker 2: how long have we doing this job for? So Auckland

1845
01:36:17,107 --> 01:36:19,947
Speaker 2: a batting first sixteen without loss after two overs, so

1846
01:36:20,027 --> 01:36:23,067
Speaker 2: good start as he gazed and preu Katton out there

1847
01:36:23,187 --> 01:36:26,387
Speaker 2: for Auckland as they look to break up the Wellington

1848
01:36:26,547 --> 01:36:30,387
Speaker 2: Blaze domination of this competition. I think it's they've played

1849
01:36:30,467 --> 01:36:34,827
Speaker 2: eight of the last nine finals and the one they

1850
01:36:34,907 --> 01:36:40,427
Speaker 2: didn't play the final and there wasn't one. Twenty seventeen eighteen.

1851
01:36:40,507 --> 01:36:42,147
Speaker 2: They won the competition that year, but it was a

1852
01:36:42,187 --> 01:36:47,227
Speaker 2: straight round robin, no final. So this is their effectively

1853
01:36:47,227 --> 01:36:49,507
Speaker 2: their ninth chance in a row to win the whole thing.

1854
01:36:49,747 --> 01:36:53,387
Speaker 2: They've won the last two, so it'd be a terrific

1855
01:36:53,427 --> 01:36:56,027
Speaker 2: effict from Auckland if they were able to stop that,

1856
01:36:56,827 --> 01:36:59,467
Speaker 2: stop that streak of the Blazers. They're doing pretty well

1857
01:36:59,467 --> 01:37:01,867
Speaker 2: at the moment, sixteen without loss after two overs when

1858
01:37:01,907 --> 01:37:04,867
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1860
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1861
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1867
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Speaker 2: the Canterbury Kings, says Mark, simple as that, Mark, simple

1869
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Speaker 2: as that. I know you're a huge fan of all

1870
01:37:34,747 --> 01:37:36,827
Speaker 2: sport from the Canterbury region. I wish you all the

1871
01:37:36,867 --> 01:37:41,787
Speaker 2: best in your quest to finally break the dark. It

1872
01:37:41,867 --> 01:37:45,387
Speaker 2: must be hard e to make six well five up

1873
01:37:45,467 --> 01:37:48,147
Speaker 2: till now, five straight finals, not win any of them.

1874
01:37:49,147 --> 01:37:51,747
Speaker 2: I think That would be a pretty deep motivator, wouldn't it.

1875
01:37:52,147 --> 01:37:54,427
Speaker 2: But if you lose another one you'd start to wonder.

1876
01:37:54,787 --> 01:37:56,627
Speaker 2: T twenty is very fickle though, isn't it. So it's

1877
01:37:56,667 --> 01:38:01,187
Speaker 2: not as though you're losing I don't know, six World

1878
01:38:01,227 --> 01:38:03,187
Speaker 2: Cup finals in a row or something like that. It

1879
01:38:03,307 --> 01:38:05,107
Speaker 2: can be very very ficle all the best of the

1880
01:38:05,147 --> 01:38:08,907
Speaker 2: Canterbury Kings and Mark Pinties. You know why, asks Hamish

1881
01:38:09,507 --> 01:38:12,467
Speaker 2: Mandracer James took the penalty for the Knicks last night.

1882
01:38:12,507 --> 01:38:15,507
Speaker 2: Wouldn't a striker be better? Is a's in good form

1883
01:38:15,627 --> 01:38:16,907
Speaker 2: or armiento? Perhaps?

1884
01:38:18,107 --> 01:38:18,347
Speaker 32: Yeah?

1885
01:38:18,427 --> 01:38:23,907
Speaker 2: Well this is the This is the the penalty last

1886
01:38:23,947 --> 01:38:26,027
Speaker 2: night for Wellington Phoenix that would have given them a

1887
01:38:26,067 --> 01:38:28,027
Speaker 2: three to two win. They were turned up as you

1888
01:38:28,067 --> 01:38:30,067
Speaker 2: heard and in case you missed it against Melbourne City.

1889
01:38:30,427 --> 01:38:32,267
Speaker 2: Melbourne City scored two goals to get back to two

1890
01:38:32,307 --> 01:38:34,947
Speaker 2: wall and then an added time the Phoenix were given

1891
01:38:34,947 --> 01:38:38,067
Speaker 2: a penalty rightly so Mandracer James, who was a center back,

1892
01:38:38,107 --> 01:38:41,467
Speaker 2: stepped up to take it. He has been successful from

1893
01:38:41,467 --> 01:38:43,827
Speaker 2: the penalty spot already this season. He scored one from

1894
01:38:43,827 --> 01:38:47,227
Speaker 2: the spot, so it wasn't as though he was a

1895
01:38:47,347 --> 01:38:51,027
Speaker 2: left field selection. Isa was off by that stage, so

1896
01:38:51,107 --> 01:38:53,227
Speaker 2: he couldn't take it, but I think Mandraca James was

1897
01:38:53,267 --> 01:38:55,467
Speaker 2: always going to take it, given the fact that he

1898
01:38:55,547 --> 01:38:58,147
Speaker 2: scored the last one. It was just so frustrating though,

1899
01:38:58,187 --> 01:39:01,347
Speaker 2: I'm sure for the coach gianclo A Taliano to watch

1900
01:39:01,387 --> 01:39:03,387
Speaker 2: his side first of all throw away at two yearl

1901
01:39:03,467 --> 01:39:07,587
Speaker 2: lead and then after that convert a penalty which would

1902
01:39:07,587 --> 01:39:11,547
Speaker 2: have thrown them a lifeline and and a win. But

1903
01:39:12,787 --> 01:39:15,947
Speaker 2: that is the score to two. Quite ironic, quite serendipitous

1904
01:39:15,987 --> 01:39:19,867
Speaker 2: that on the occasion of their five hundredth match, the

1905
01:39:19,907 --> 01:39:22,787
Speaker 2: score was exactly the same as the very first match

1906
01:39:23,587 --> 01:39:25,907
Speaker 2: two to two back in August of two thousand and seven.

1907
01:39:25,987 --> 01:39:29,187
Speaker 2: In the Phoenix's very first game two to two and

1908
01:39:29,267 --> 01:39:33,627
Speaker 2: their five hundredth game last night. Auckland FC played tonight

1909
01:39:33,867 --> 01:39:36,987
Speaker 2: against Perth Glory in Western Australia, and you might have

1910
01:39:37,027 --> 01:39:40,787
Speaker 2: caught the news earlier on today that Jesse Randall, who's

1911
01:39:40,867 --> 01:39:45,787
Speaker 2: been just a standout for Auckland FC this season, has

1912
01:39:47,347 --> 01:39:51,187
Speaker 2: earned a move to Scotland. Scottish Premiership side Dundee United

1913
01:39:51,227 --> 01:39:53,827
Speaker 2: have announced the signing of Jesse Randall on a pre

1914
01:39:53,987 --> 01:39:56,787
Speaker 2: contract agreement a two year deal with a club option

1915
01:39:57,027 --> 01:40:00,187
Speaker 2: for an additional year. So well done to Jesse Randall,

1916
01:40:01,227 --> 01:40:04,507
Speaker 2: well deserved from his form in the A League this season.

1917
01:40:04,827 --> 01:40:06,507
Speaker 2: I will have a chat about that tomorrow a on

1918
01:40:06,587 --> 01:40:09,187
Speaker 2: the show. But yeah, all the best to Walkland FC

1919
01:40:09,347 --> 01:40:12,187
Speaker 2: tonight in their latest match and the A League Men's

1920
01:40:12,307 --> 01:40:15,627
Speaker 2: just on Auckland FC. They're back home next weekend to

1921
01:40:15,707 --> 01:40:18,147
Speaker 2: take on Sydney FC over a white tangy weekend. Go

1922
01:40:18,267 --> 01:40:21,187
Speaker 2: Media Stadium Saturday the seventh of Feb to five o'clock.

1923
01:40:21,587 --> 01:40:25,227
Speaker 2: We've got a six ticket family pass up for grabs

1924
01:40:25,467 --> 01:40:26,867
Speaker 2: if you are going to be in Auckland over the

1925
01:40:26,907 --> 01:40:28,347
Speaker 2: long weekend and you want to get along to the

1926
01:40:28,387 --> 01:40:31,907
Speaker 2: football next Saturday, six ticket family pass. Text the word

1927
01:40:32,067 --> 01:40:35,187
Speaker 2: or text AFC and your name to nine two nine

1928
01:40:35,267 --> 01:40:37,787
Speaker 2: two AFC and your name to nine two nine two

1929
01:40:37,867 --> 01:40:41,507
Speaker 2: and you will be in the draw. New Zealand Football's

1930
01:40:41,547 --> 01:40:45,987
Speaker 2: twenty twenty five participation statistics are out and they show

1931
01:40:46,467 --> 01:40:50,107
Speaker 2: more Keywis than ever playing football, more than one hundred

1932
01:40:50,107 --> 01:40:54,547
Speaker 2: and eighty thousand registered players last year, nearly one hundred

1933
01:40:54,547 --> 01:40:57,027
Speaker 2: and forty eight and a half thousand took part in

1934
01:40:57,107 --> 01:41:01,667
Speaker 2: New Zealand football, organized football and futsal. A three percent

1935
01:41:01,787 --> 01:41:05,907
Speaker 2: growth in football and an eleven percent rise in futsal

1936
01:41:05,987 --> 01:41:08,547
Speaker 2: from two twenty four and on top of that number,

1937
01:41:08,587 --> 01:41:12,707
Speaker 2: more than thirty four thousand players also played through secondary scores.

1938
01:41:13,627 --> 01:41:17,987
Speaker 2: Football continues to be the biggest team participation sport in

1939
01:41:18,067 --> 01:41:21,827
Speaker 2: New Zealand, according to Sport New Zealand's most recent active

1940
01:41:22,067 --> 01:41:27,067
Speaker 2: New Zealand Participation survey. New Zealand Football CEO is Andrew Pragnell,

1941
01:41:27,147 --> 01:41:28,947
Speaker 2: who joins US now. Andrew, thanks for your time. How

1942
01:41:29,027 --> 01:41:32,667
Speaker 2: pleased are you with the continued growth of the game

1943
01:41:32,707 --> 01:41:35,307
Speaker 2: of football at all levels in New Zealand?

1944
01:41:35,867 --> 01:41:35,987
Speaker 9: Oh?

1945
01:41:36,147 --> 01:41:37,667
Speaker 19: Thanks by and thanks for having me on.

1946
01:41:37,987 --> 01:41:41,187
Speaker 33: Look, we are absolutely wrapped. It's a golden age for football.

1947
01:41:42,027 --> 01:41:45,627
Speaker 33: The game's going from strength to strength. We literally cannot

1948
01:41:45,627 --> 01:41:50,667
Speaker 33: stop growing in every part of the game, grassroots. It

1949
01:41:50,827 --> 01:41:56,067
Speaker 33: continues unabated, in every form and across every background and demographic.

1950
01:41:56,467 --> 01:41:58,187
Speaker 19: Women and girls game going game busters.

1951
01:41:58,187 --> 01:41:59,587
Speaker 33: And of course you've got the growth of the professional

1952
01:41:59,667 --> 01:42:03,947
Speaker 33: game and national teams playing every single window and coming

1953
01:42:03,987 --> 01:42:04,747
Speaker 33: home regally too.

1954
01:42:04,907 --> 01:42:07,307
Speaker 19: So yeah, couldn't be better right now?

1955
01:42:07,827 --> 01:42:09,827
Speaker 2: What do you think is driving the growth? Are you

1956
01:42:09,907 --> 01:42:14,827
Speaker 2: able to drill down into why the game continues to

1957
01:42:14,907 --> 01:42:16,427
Speaker 2: grow at all levels?

1958
01:42:17,667 --> 01:42:20,267
Speaker 19: It's a good question. I think there's a lot going

1959
01:42:20,307 --> 01:42:20,707
Speaker 19: on in there.

1960
01:42:20,787 --> 01:42:23,387
Speaker 33: I think we've got a really fantastic club network, so

1961
01:42:23,427 --> 01:42:27,507
Speaker 33: over four hundred clubs, thousands of volunteers working hard.

1962
01:42:27,747 --> 01:42:29,787
Speaker 19: They're underpinned by the whole of football plan.

1963
01:42:30,267 --> 01:42:33,467
Speaker 33: So our coach education, our referee education, in the way

1964
01:42:33,547 --> 01:42:35,667
Speaker 33: in which the game is played, so the formats in

1965
01:42:35,747 --> 01:42:37,867
Speaker 33: which it's played is second to none.

1966
01:42:38,267 --> 01:42:40,707
Speaker 19: It is world class. It's been recognized as world class.

1967
01:42:40,907 --> 01:42:42,587
Speaker 33: And the mets starting to show in some of the

1968
01:42:42,627 --> 01:42:45,027
Speaker 33: performances too, and the talent we're producing in this country.

1969
01:42:45,147 --> 01:42:49,427
Speaker 33: So you know, really strong fundamentals, and you can't go

1970
01:42:49,587 --> 01:42:52,507
Speaker 33: past the hard and soul of our community, those people

1971
01:42:52,587 --> 01:42:55,187
Speaker 33: at that committee level and those grassroots coaches and the

1972
01:42:55,267 --> 01:42:56,707
Speaker 33: mums and dads who just keep driving it.

1973
01:42:57,107 --> 01:42:57,707
Speaker 19: But we're lucky.

1974
01:42:57,827 --> 01:43:00,827
Speaker 33: We've got a game that's growing globally, the impact of

1975
01:43:00,907 --> 01:43:01,547
Speaker 33: social media.

1976
01:43:02,427 --> 01:43:06,347
Speaker 19: We've got you know, global stars like Chris Woods, We've got.

1977
01:43:06,547 --> 01:43:09,067
Speaker 33: More professional teams, so there's a lot contributing to it.

1978
01:43:09,147 --> 01:43:11,827
Speaker 33: But our fundamentals are strong, which is our grassroots game,

1979
01:43:12,107 --> 01:43:14,587
Speaker 33: and without that you don't have anything to build off.

1980
01:43:15,067 --> 01:43:16,667
Speaker 33: So great fundamentals at the.

1981
01:43:16,667 --> 01:43:20,627
Speaker 2: Grassroots level, in particular, Are you seeing growth in Maori,

1982
01:43:20,987 --> 01:43:23,427
Speaker 2: Pacifica and Asian participation?

1983
01:43:24,347 --> 01:43:28,467
Speaker 33: Absolutely, yep, strong growth across all those demographics, which is

1984
01:43:28,507 --> 01:43:29,347
Speaker 33: fantastic to see.

1985
01:43:29,427 --> 01:43:32,187
Speaker 19: I think. You know, historically, if you folded the game.

1986
01:43:32,067 --> 01:43:35,067
Speaker 33: Back fifty years, you know we're more European based, but

1987
01:43:35,987 --> 01:43:36,947
Speaker 33: it's a game for everyone.

1988
01:43:37,027 --> 01:43:39,627
Speaker 19: In our migrant communities that come to New Zealand love

1989
01:43:39,747 --> 01:43:40,187
Speaker 19: the sport.

1990
01:43:41,387 --> 01:43:43,587
Speaker 33: It's a global game and so yeah, growth across all

1991
01:43:43,627 --> 01:43:47,667
Speaker 33: those and including in their coaching and match official space too,

1992
01:43:47,787 --> 01:43:50,907
Speaker 33: So that's really important to us. We're a game for

1993
01:43:50,947 --> 01:43:52,787
Speaker 33: all New Zealand. The whole New Zealand's playing it and

1994
01:43:52,867 --> 01:43:54,307
Speaker 33: we need to represent the whole country.

1995
01:43:54,667 --> 01:43:56,947
Speaker 2: I guess when you have growth that puts a little

1996
01:43:56,987 --> 01:44:00,707
Speaker 2: bit of pressure on facilities. I know basketball have have

1997
01:44:00,827 --> 01:44:03,667
Speaker 2: had issues of this type, but it's another sport that's

1998
01:44:03,707 --> 01:44:06,547
Speaker 2: growing and they're trying to find courts for everybody. Are

1999
01:44:06,587 --> 01:44:10,547
Speaker 2: these growing numbers putting any pressure on ground availability for you?

2000
01:44:11,427 --> 01:44:15,787
Speaker 33: Absolutely, it's arguably our number one challenge. You know, our

2001
01:44:15,867 --> 01:44:19,907
Speaker 33: issues are not ones of supply in terms of participant

2002
01:44:19,947 --> 01:44:23,387
Speaker 33: or demand. There's plenty of demand from participants, but supply

2003
01:44:23,467 --> 01:44:25,667
Speaker 33: in terms of fields is a huge issue, particularly in

2004
01:44:25,747 --> 01:44:30,027
Speaker 33: our urban areas and you know, football contributes so much back,

2005
01:44:30,187 --> 01:44:32,987
Speaker 33: so we're constantly working with our federations in local government

2006
01:44:33,027 --> 01:44:35,987
Speaker 33: to advocate for more. There's been some input from central

2007
01:44:36,027 --> 01:44:40,467
Speaker 33: government recently to try and get more investment into facilities,

2008
01:44:40,587 --> 01:44:43,187
Speaker 33: but it's such a good space for local government to

2009
01:44:43,227 --> 01:44:46,427
Speaker 33: be investing. It results in so many positive social outcomes

2010
01:44:46,467 --> 01:44:49,587
Speaker 33: for our young people. So yeah, that is a constant

2011
01:44:49,627 --> 01:44:51,547
Speaker 33: work on and it's a threat to the game because

2012
01:44:51,587 --> 01:44:52,867
Speaker 33: we are going to hit a ceiling.

2013
01:44:52,627 --> 01:44:54,827
Speaker 19: At some point, so we need to act now and

2014
01:44:56,427 --> 01:44:57,787
Speaker 19: and we need more support in that space.

2015
01:44:58,107 --> 01:45:00,627
Speaker 2: Fos all for those who are unfamiliar with it, The

2016
01:45:00,707 --> 01:45:05,067
Speaker 2: indoor form of the game an eleven percent rise last

2017
01:45:05,147 --> 01:45:09,427
Speaker 2: year from twenty twenty four. Again, it's it's almost an

2018
01:45:09,587 --> 01:45:11,427
Speaker 2: entry into the game for many people, isn't it. Do

2019
01:45:11,467 --> 01:45:15,027
Speaker 2: you expect that, you know, that popularity to continue.

2020
01:45:15,747 --> 01:45:18,627
Speaker 33: Yeah, absolutely, it's it's you're right, it's an entry to

2021
01:45:18,707 --> 01:45:21,867
Speaker 33: the game. It's also an alternative kind of skill development set,

2022
01:45:22,267 --> 01:45:24,547
Speaker 33: and I think that it's a sort of it's it's

2023
01:45:24,547 --> 01:45:26,947
Speaker 33: a sort of game in which young people don't have

2024
01:45:26,987 --> 01:45:28,947
Speaker 33: the necessary attach themselves to a club. So it's got

2025
01:45:29,187 --> 01:45:33,307
Speaker 33: enormous participation across boys and girls at that team level,

2026
01:45:34,107 --> 01:45:36,827
Speaker 33: so that that will continue, but again it does face

2027
01:45:36,907 --> 01:45:39,907
Speaker 33: that scene arguably as much, if not more facility challenge

2028
01:45:40,587 --> 01:45:44,027
Speaker 33: in around indoor courts, So that's that's a constant work

2029
01:45:44,107 --> 01:45:45,147
Speaker 33: on but at this.

2030
01:45:45,227 --> 01:45:46,867
Speaker 19: Stage continued growth.

2031
01:45:46,907 --> 01:45:49,227
Speaker 33: But we've got you've got teams playing at ten o'clock

2032
01:45:49,227 --> 01:45:51,987
Speaker 33: at night in parts of the country, so every bit

2033
01:45:52,027 --> 01:45:54,707
Speaker 33: of space we're using we're using right now and you know,

2034
01:45:54,987 --> 01:45:56,347
Speaker 33: if we don't get more courts, we'll.

2035
01:45:56,187 --> 01:45:58,187
Speaker 19: Be playing early in the early hours of the morning.

2036
01:45:59,267 --> 01:46:01,987
Speaker 2: How much how much your female numbers grown since the

2037
01:46:02,027 --> 01:46:04,147
Speaker 2: World Cup was co hosted here a couple of years back.

2038
01:46:04,827 --> 01:46:09,027
Speaker 33: Yeah, really significantly, so thirty five percent since twenty twenty two,

2039
01:46:09,067 --> 01:46:11,467
Speaker 33: which is obviously so of the onset of the women's

2040
01:46:11,467 --> 01:46:15,147
Speaker 33: World Cups. So that's really material. You know, it's been

2041
01:46:15,227 --> 01:46:18,747
Speaker 33: fantastic to see professional women's the whole pathway has changed

2042
01:46:18,787 --> 01:46:22,827
Speaker 33: now the visibility of and by having professional women's football

2043
01:46:22,867 --> 01:46:25,227
Speaker 33: here in the Wellington Phoenix, and we'll soon have a

2044
01:46:25,267 --> 01:46:26,507
Speaker 33: second professional women's side.

2045
01:46:26,747 --> 01:46:28,827
Speaker 19: The visibilities piece is really important to us.

2046
01:46:29,187 --> 01:46:30,747
Speaker 33: But the other thing we want to see more obviously

2047
01:46:30,747 --> 01:46:33,707
Speaker 33: we've got some great female leaders in both new Zealand

2048
01:46:33,707 --> 01:46:37,947
Speaker 33: Football and our federations, but advancing female leadership into our

2049
01:46:37,987 --> 01:46:40,507
Speaker 33: club space and our club committee more and more, and

2050
01:46:40,867 --> 01:46:43,867
Speaker 33: you cannot have enough female coaches and artificials. So we

2051
01:46:44,267 --> 01:46:46,347
Speaker 33: want to see big games in there and not just

2052
01:46:46,427 --> 01:46:47,467
Speaker 33: in the participation space.

2053
01:46:47,747 --> 01:46:51,547
Speaker 2: Plinnical events obviously always you know, pique the interest, don't they.

2054
01:46:51,627 --> 01:46:53,787
Speaker 2: And we talked about the World Cup there in twenty

2055
01:46:53,867 --> 01:46:56,347
Speaker 2: twenty three. Do you predict a similar surge and interest

2056
01:46:56,427 --> 01:46:59,107
Speaker 2: in numbers with the All Whites back involved in the

2057
01:46:59,147 --> 01:46:59,987
Speaker 2: World Cup later.

2058
01:46:59,867 --> 01:47:00,227
Speaker 24: In the year.

2059
01:47:00,907 --> 01:47:01,107
Speaker 19: Yeah.

2060
01:47:01,187 --> 01:47:03,027
Speaker 33: Absolutely, I mean it's going to be the It is

2061
01:47:03,107 --> 01:47:06,187
Speaker 33: the sporting event of the year. Obviously, we've got a team.

2062
01:47:06,427 --> 01:47:09,427
Speaker 33: It is as strong as it's ever been a week

2063
01:47:09,507 --> 01:47:12,667
Speaker 33: going in, you know, fierce and determined to kind of

2064
01:47:12,747 --> 01:47:16,067
Speaker 33: raise the bar on twenty ten and I'm expecting the

2065
01:47:16,107 --> 01:47:17,347
Speaker 33: whole country to stop and watch this.

2066
01:47:17,507 --> 01:47:19,467
Speaker 19: We're expecting this.

2067
01:47:19,507 --> 01:47:23,747
Speaker 33: Upward of five thousand kiwis going to each game in

2068
01:47:23,827 --> 01:47:26,427
Speaker 33: those first group stages, hopefully more in around the thirty

2069
01:47:26,467 --> 01:47:30,187
Speaker 33: two and sixteen as we push on. But it's also

2070
01:47:30,267 --> 01:47:32,667
Speaker 33: free to air on tv Z. I think this will

2071
01:47:32,667 --> 01:47:36,667
Speaker 33: stop the nation. The timing is perfect. There should not

2072
01:47:36,787 --> 01:47:39,427
Speaker 33: be an office place working while these games are on,

2073
01:47:39,627 --> 01:47:43,227
Speaker 33: Like every co every manager of your business needs to

2074
01:47:43,227 --> 01:47:44,987
Speaker 33: put that in their calendar now because it's a stop

2075
01:47:45,027 --> 01:47:45,747
Speaker 33: work moment.

2076
01:47:45,787 --> 01:47:48,507
Speaker 2: Absolutely right. And as far as the team is concerned,

2077
01:47:48,547 --> 01:47:50,907
Speaker 2: I know you work closely with Darren Baisley, the All

2078
01:47:50,947 --> 01:47:53,147
Speaker 2: Whites head coach and his team, which is a you know,

2079
01:47:53,227 --> 01:47:57,067
Speaker 2: a significant team heading towards this significant event. How do

2080
01:47:57,107 --> 01:47:58,747
Speaker 2: you feel that the team has placed five or so

2081
01:47:58,867 --> 01:47:59,267
Speaker 2: months out?

2082
01:47:59,987 --> 01:48:00,187
Speaker 19: Yeah?

2083
01:48:00,347 --> 01:48:04,147
Speaker 33: Great, I mean, obviously we've got Woodsy managing an injury,

2084
01:48:04,427 --> 01:48:07,467
Speaker 33: but he's an absolute pro and he'll be doing everything

2085
01:48:07,547 --> 01:48:10,267
Speaker 33: he can there. But there's so many other players around

2086
01:48:10,307 --> 01:48:13,227
Speaker 33: the world, you know, I Love's back, Marcus Daminich Eli

2087
01:48:13,467 --> 01:48:16,547
Speaker 33: Justice is out there making waves as well. So many

2088
01:48:16,587 --> 01:48:19,187
Speaker 33: of the players on forming their clubs, which is fantastic

2089
01:48:19,267 --> 01:48:22,387
Speaker 33: to see Max Crow con pushing the pushing at the

2090
01:48:22,387 --> 01:48:24,947
Speaker 33: top of the championship. So the players are long players

2091
01:48:24,987 --> 01:48:26,987
Speaker 33: in form. We're bringing them home obviously in March. That's

2092
01:48:26,987 --> 01:48:29,907
Speaker 33: a huge series. First time we've had a European opposition

2093
01:48:29,987 --> 01:48:32,747
Speaker 33: in the country for thirty years and playing Chile South

2094
01:48:32,787 --> 01:48:33,907
Speaker 33: American opposition at home.

2095
01:48:35,027 --> 01:48:37,587
Speaker 19: So yeah, look, we've got everything has lined up how

2096
01:48:37,627 --> 01:48:37,987
Speaker 19: we want it.

2097
01:48:38,307 --> 01:48:41,587
Speaker 33: Obviously football is a fickle sport with outrageous margins and

2098
01:48:42,227 --> 01:48:45,667
Speaker 33: anything can happen, but we've done everything we can and

2099
01:48:46,707 --> 01:48:48,267
Speaker 33: we're feeling really optimistic about the team.

2100
01:48:48,307 --> 01:48:50,387
Speaker 2: They're fantastic looking forward to that fee for series at

2101
01:48:50,427 --> 01:48:52,787
Speaker 2: the back end of March games of Eden Park against

2102
01:48:52,787 --> 01:48:55,507
Speaker 2: Finland and also against Chili. Great to chat Andrew, Congrats

2103
01:48:55,547 --> 01:48:58,947
Speaker 2: on these numbers and all the best with the continuing

2104
01:48:59,067 --> 01:49:02,147
Speaker 2: challenge of finding places for all all of our footballers

2105
01:49:02,227 --> 01:49:03,987
Speaker 2: to play. Appreciate you and taking the time for a

2106
01:49:04,107 --> 01:49:07,267
Speaker 2: chat this afternoon. Think thanks by no thank you Andrew.

2107
01:49:07,307 --> 01:49:10,387
Speaker 2: Andrew Pregnant, CEO of New Zealand Football. There so very

2108
01:49:10,547 --> 01:49:15,227
Speaker 2: encouraging numbers for the sport of football, particularly at grassroots

2109
01:49:15,267 --> 01:49:18,347
Speaker 2: here in New Zealand. Twenty five to three, Going to

2110
01:49:18,387 --> 01:49:20,907
Speaker 2: talk some basketball. Shortly The Blaze have picked up their

2111
01:49:20,947 --> 01:49:24,587
Speaker 2: first wicket of the Super Smash Women's final as he

2112
01:49:24,787 --> 01:49:28,027
Speaker 2: Gaze is out caught by Rebecca Burns off the bowling

2113
01:49:28,027 --> 01:49:30,067
Speaker 2: of Zara Gently, who spoke about an hour ago, so

2114
01:49:30,547 --> 01:49:32,187
Speaker 2: clearly having a young to us on the radio was

2115
01:49:32,187 --> 01:49:35,547
Speaker 2: a good omen. She's picked up the wicket in Auckland

2116
01:49:35,627 --> 01:49:38,147
Speaker 2: are forty three for one heading towards the end of

2117
01:49:38,227 --> 01:49:41,587
Speaker 2: the sixth over had a great text from a high

2118
01:49:41,707 --> 01:49:45,147
Speaker 2: ranking member of the New Zealand cricket hierarchy giving me,

2119
01:49:45,787 --> 01:49:49,067
Speaker 2: rightfully so a a little bit of jib for saying

2120
01:49:49,147 --> 01:49:52,907
Speaker 2: that Auckland had won the toss and sent themselves in. Yeah,

2121
01:49:53,027 --> 01:49:56,987
Speaker 2: terrible terminology, but good to be good to be reminded

2122
01:49:57,027 --> 01:50:00,467
Speaker 2: of that and as correct what it is. It is,

2123
01:50:00,547 --> 01:50:04,987
Speaker 2: but it's not the right terminology. Who's the captain? Who's

2124
01:50:05,027 --> 01:50:08,387
Speaker 2: the Auckland Hearts capt It's Maddy Green and she's not

2125
01:50:08,507 --> 01:50:12,947
Speaker 2: the opener. So yeah, she sent her openers in. Yeah,

2126
01:50:12,987 --> 01:50:16,067
Speaker 2: I suppose you're right. I do think it'll catch on.

2127
01:50:16,507 --> 01:50:21,107
Speaker 2: Thanks some we'll send ourselves in. Yeah, maybe I don't know,

2128
01:50:21,227 --> 01:50:24,947
Speaker 2: Maybe it will catch on. Who knows? Who knows? Preu

2129
01:50:25,027 --> 01:50:27,067
Speaker 2: Catton is still out there. I'm beaten. On eleven Maddy

2130
01:50:27,107 --> 01:50:30,427
Speaker 2: Green the captain who sent her side and has gone

2131
01:50:30,467 --> 01:50:34,347
Speaker 2: out to join Preu Catton. She sent herself into bat

2132
01:50:34,427 --> 01:50:39,107
Speaker 2: now and Auckland are forty four for one after six overs.

2133
01:50:39,827 --> 01:50:42,347
Speaker 2: Back in a sec with breakers basketball.

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01:50:42,307 --> 01:50:48,827
Speaker 1: One Grudge Hold engaged Weekend Sports with Jason Paine and GJ. Gunderholmes,

2135
01:50:49,067 --> 01:50:52,307
Speaker 1: New Zealand's most trusted home Builder News Talks to Baby.

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01:50:52,787 --> 01:50:55,227
Speaker 2: News Talks a Band Weekend Sport Bang On twenty to three.

2137
01:50:55,307 --> 01:50:59,307
Speaker 2: The Breakers have kept the playoff door ajar in Basketball's

2138
01:50:59,587 --> 01:51:03,787
Speaker 2: NBL A ninety seven ninety five win over Melbourne United

2139
01:51:03,947 --> 01:51:07,067
Speaker 2: in Auckland last night. Eighteen year old me can start

2140
01:51:07,187 --> 01:51:12,147
Speaker 2: Kareem Lopez dropping an NBYL career high thirty two points,

2141
01:51:12,587 --> 01:51:14,707
Speaker 2: many of those coming late in the game as the

2142
01:51:14,787 --> 01:51:18,547
Speaker 2: Breakers are raised an eight point deficit with five minutes

2143
01:51:18,587 --> 01:51:18,947
Speaker 2: to play.

2144
01:51:19,867 --> 01:51:22,387
Speaker 20: He just have the size advantages, Kareem.

2145
01:51:24,307 --> 01:51:28,627
Speaker 3: Kareem Lopez, ah seal by ri Joster Lopez.

2146
01:51:29,187 --> 01:51:33,307
Speaker 2: Can he get into the pain again? Excues who finish?

2147
01:51:33,747 --> 01:51:35,067
Speaker 3: I think he's going to be one of those guys

2148
01:51:35,107 --> 01:51:37,027
Speaker 3: that you say, Oh I saw him way back.

2149
01:51:36,907 --> 01:51:39,947
Speaker 19: When cool dream.

2150
01:51:41,627 --> 01:51:43,467
Speaker 2: I'm betrayed to give it in a yster.

2151
01:51:44,147 --> 01:51:47,867
Speaker 31: Kareem Lopez are coming out of pinety thirty one points.

2152
01:51:47,587 --> 01:51:50,147
Speaker 2: Of the night and takes the lead. Yeah, We'll hear

2153
01:51:50,187 --> 01:51:52,747
Speaker 2: from Kareem Lopez in just a moment. The Breakers are seventh,

2154
01:51:52,947 --> 01:51:55,987
Speaker 2: one win back from a playoff spot three games left

2155
01:51:56,027 --> 01:51:58,987
Speaker 2: in the regular season. They next face the team above

2156
01:51:59,067 --> 01:52:03,267
Speaker 2: them in sixth at Tasmania. That game's in Hobart tomorrow afternoon.

2157
01:52:03,787 --> 01:52:07,507
Speaker 2: Here's coach BUTTERI Copenan with his gene role assatement of

2158
01:52:07,547 --> 01:52:09,907
Speaker 2: the game, not part of the group.

2159
01:52:10,347 --> 01:52:14,067
Speaker 29: You know, with some guys had to step up and

2160
01:52:14,827 --> 01:52:20,947
Speaker 29: playing different positions also, and you know, obviously I don't

2161
01:52:20,987 --> 01:52:24,987
Speaker 29: know during my what twenty years of being thirty years

2162
01:52:25,027 --> 01:52:27,307
Speaker 29: of being in basketball kind of, I don't know if

2163
01:52:27,347 --> 01:52:30,147
Speaker 29: I ever seen the result was we had first half.

2164
01:52:30,187 --> 01:52:32,827
Speaker 29: We were eighteen out of eighteen two points in the

2165
01:52:32,907 --> 01:52:37,787
Speaker 29: first half. That's pretty efficient and no, but obviously I

2166
01:52:37,907 --> 01:52:40,827
Speaker 29: had to, you know, give a big shout out to Roblow.

2167
01:52:41,547 --> 01:52:44,347
Speaker 22: You know, in this league you don't.

2168
01:52:44,227 --> 01:52:48,627
Speaker 29: Count screen assist I think only in the NBA they

2169
01:52:48,707 --> 01:52:51,307
Speaker 29: had that stat. But as a big man, you know

2170
01:52:51,667 --> 01:52:55,067
Speaker 29: how you can help your guards, your other players with

2171
01:52:55,227 --> 01:52:55,827
Speaker 29: your screening.

2172
01:52:55,907 --> 01:52:58,987
Speaker 22: And I think Roblow did the clinic with.

2173
01:52:59,107 --> 01:53:02,787
Speaker 29: That tonight and then after disconnecting side to side and

2174
01:53:03,187 --> 01:53:06,187
Speaker 29: then made that, you know, easier for everybody. And then

2175
01:53:06,387 --> 01:53:11,147
Speaker 29: obviously kareem amazing game, you know, big, big fourth corner

2176
01:53:11,387 --> 01:53:14,467
Speaker 29: and big reason why we won, you know, from the

2177
01:53:14,787 --> 01:53:19,947
Speaker 29: from inside three throws big you know, also few trees.

2178
01:53:20,187 --> 01:53:22,787
Speaker 29: I told him after the game stopped, you know, stepping

2179
01:53:22,867 --> 01:53:24,947
Speaker 29: to the line. You know a few of those shots.

2180
01:53:24,987 --> 01:53:27,707
Speaker 29: But you know, obviously as a eighteen year old, the

2181
01:53:27,787 --> 01:53:31,227
Speaker 29: things Kareem can do amazing and but like you said,

2182
01:53:31,907 --> 01:53:34,627
Speaker 29: really win and but.

2183
01:53:34,707 --> 01:53:37,787
Speaker 22: There's no time to time to celebrate too much. Tomorrow morning.

2184
01:53:38,187 --> 01:53:41,387
Speaker 29: Tomorrow morning, straight to the airport and we keep fighting

2185
01:53:41,587 --> 01:53:44,067
Speaker 29: straight to Tazzy and try to get another one.

2186
01:53:44,267 --> 01:53:46,067
Speaker 2: So knicks from but Terry copeen And how did I

2187
01:53:46,147 --> 01:53:49,187
Speaker 2: get the win with without a couple of the big men.

2188
01:53:49,547 --> 01:53:52,387
Speaker 29: Well, we had our game plan, you know, try to stretch,

2189
01:53:52,787 --> 01:53:55,547
Speaker 29: stretch the floor, you know, row low and then like

2190
01:53:55,627 --> 01:53:58,947
Speaker 29: I said, with his screening and then popping and then connecting,

2191
01:53:59,667 --> 01:54:02,827
Speaker 29: we found some success and then we didn't lose the

2192
01:54:02,867 --> 01:54:05,147
Speaker 29: rebound badly tonight.

2193
01:54:05,227 --> 01:54:07,827
Speaker 22: That was big also key for the win.

2194
01:54:08,067 --> 01:54:11,747
Speaker 29: And second half we had only three turnovers as first

2195
01:54:11,787 --> 01:54:12,707
Speaker 29: half we had nine, so.

2196
01:54:12,827 --> 01:54:13,947
Speaker 22: That was also the big key.

2197
01:54:14,107 --> 01:54:17,947
Speaker 29: But you know, obviously Rublo and Max and everybody else,

2198
01:54:18,067 --> 01:54:21,587
Speaker 29: you know, it was the big battle with the rebounds especially,

2199
01:54:21,667 --> 01:54:25,467
Speaker 29: but you know, we found ways to score score the ball,

2200
01:54:25,587 --> 01:54:28,787
Speaker 29: and like I said, Karim was amazing, also Prop Parker

2201
01:54:29,267 --> 01:54:31,587
Speaker 29: and everybody chipped in and then they did their part.

2202
01:54:31,747 --> 01:54:35,427
Speaker 2: But Terry capin and also talked about the team's excellent efficiency.

2203
01:54:35,827 --> 01:54:37,707
Speaker 29: We were aggressive and like I said, big part of

2204
01:54:37,747 --> 01:54:41,747
Speaker 29: it was screening, connecting and being patient and aggressiveness and

2205
01:54:42,387 --> 01:54:45,987
Speaker 29: obviously then in the end, I guess tonight also we

2206
01:54:46,067 --> 01:54:48,947
Speaker 29: found Karim's new favorite shot, this flubing of shot and

2207
01:54:49,267 --> 01:54:52,067
Speaker 29: we had three of these today. But you know, just

2208
01:54:52,547 --> 01:54:58,907
Speaker 29: just impressive stuff and overall no playing, playing and fighting

2209
01:54:59,267 --> 01:55:03,067
Speaker 29: against Melbourne against really good defensive team kind of and

2210
01:55:03,227 --> 01:55:07,147
Speaker 29: they tried to take some things from you, but we

2211
01:55:07,267 --> 01:55:10,907
Speaker 29: found a way almost Againstcore hundred points and especially like.

2212
01:55:12,547 --> 01:55:14,227
Speaker 22: Close to the rim, we were really efficient.

2213
01:55:14,427 --> 01:55:17,307
Speaker 2: So more now on Kareem low Piers. It was the

2214
01:55:17,387 --> 01:55:20,147
Speaker 2: star of the show with those thirty two points, a

2215
01:55:20,267 --> 01:55:23,747
Speaker 2: Koreer high for him. Just a bit more explanation and

2216
01:55:23,827 --> 01:55:27,947
Speaker 2: assessment from Peterry Copenhan on Kareem's game with NBA scouts

2217
01:55:27,987 --> 01:55:29,707
Speaker 2: watching on no.

2218
01:55:29,867 --> 01:55:32,667
Speaker 29: I think he was pretty good tonight and happy for

2219
01:55:32,827 --> 01:55:38,467
Speaker 29: Kareem and he's the guy. He's there doing extra, he's

2220
01:55:38,547 --> 01:55:42,587
Speaker 29: working towards his dreams, dreams, and it's not easy. It's

2221
01:55:42,587 --> 01:55:44,787
Speaker 29: a marathon, you know, every every day you have to

2222
01:55:44,907 --> 01:55:48,267
Speaker 29: keep working and sometimes you're going to get that price sooner,

2223
01:55:48,387 --> 01:55:50,747
Speaker 29: sometimes later, but you know the only way is to

2224
01:55:50,867 --> 01:55:54,947
Speaker 29: keep working and have that right mindset. And like Kareem said,

2225
01:55:55,027 --> 01:55:57,907
Speaker 29: sometimes you know, during the games you don't get to

2226
01:55:57,987 --> 01:56:01,467
Speaker 29: those things. But I think I'm really happy for Korem

2227
01:56:02,707 --> 01:56:06,227
Speaker 29: tonight and especially how he was able to take the

2228
01:56:06,467 --> 01:56:08,667
Speaker 29: covered the game in the last last quarter and there

2229
01:56:08,747 --> 01:56:12,147
Speaker 29: was nobody who could stop him, and and and really

2230
01:56:12,147 --> 01:56:15,387
Speaker 29: important for us, really you know, big big win, and

2231
01:56:15,507 --> 01:56:18,987
Speaker 29: we keep fighting, and like I said to the guys,

2232
01:56:19,067 --> 01:56:22,627
Speaker 29: now you know, the biggest thing is to recover uh mentally,

2233
01:56:22,667 --> 01:56:25,347
Speaker 29: physically and be be ready for another fight.

2234
01:56:25,427 --> 01:56:29,067
Speaker 2: On Sunday, Rob Low came in and uh and edited

2235
01:56:29,147 --> 01:56:32,587
Speaker 2: his experience what was up? But Terry Copenant's assessment of

2236
01:56:32,627 --> 01:56:35,907
Speaker 2: the way that Rob Blow contributed, No, it's really important.

2237
01:56:35,947 --> 01:56:38,267
Speaker 29: Like I said, he's like you, that's you know, he's

2238
01:56:38,307 --> 01:56:41,867
Speaker 29: been playing basketball many years. He's been you know, well

2239
01:56:41,987 --> 01:56:44,787
Speaker 29: coached over years he was with Melbourne. He knows how

2240
01:56:44,867 --> 01:56:47,467
Speaker 29: to play, and it's just about his physical you know,

2241
01:56:47,627 --> 01:56:51,987
Speaker 29: presence and recovery. And sometimes you know, we're lucky we

2242
01:56:52,067 --> 01:56:54,307
Speaker 29: have guy like him behind Sam, so he cans step

2243
01:56:54,387 --> 01:56:57,347
Speaker 29: up and use his experience and the big reason why

2244
01:56:57,427 --> 01:56:59,707
Speaker 29: we were able to you know, attack Melbourne. How we

2245
01:56:59,787 --> 01:57:02,787
Speaker 29: did it was his shooting ability outside so we can

2246
01:57:02,827 --> 01:57:06,147
Speaker 29: stretch the floor, try to pull Jesse for Edwards outside

2247
01:57:06,187 --> 01:57:09,267
Speaker 29: and then after disconnect and rob the dectional job and.

2248
01:57:10,827 --> 01:57:15,147
Speaker 22: That's it. But you know, really important piece piece in

2249
01:57:15,267 --> 01:57:15,507
Speaker 22: our to.

2250
01:57:15,987 --> 01:57:18,667
Speaker 2: And finally from the hitd coutch to the breakers Potera

2251
01:57:18,707 --> 01:57:20,787
Speaker 2: copeing and how does the team prepare for a quick

2252
01:57:20,907 --> 01:57:24,427
Speaker 2: turnaround as they travel to Test Many you take on

2253
01:57:24,507 --> 01:57:25,547
Speaker 2: the jack Jumpers tomorrow.

2254
01:57:25,867 --> 01:57:28,107
Speaker 29: No, that's the that's the challenge. But like I said

2255
01:57:28,267 --> 01:57:31,107
Speaker 29: I to the guys in the locker room right now,

2256
01:57:31,307 --> 01:57:33,347
Speaker 29: you know that's if they are encarnags. They are playing

2257
01:57:33,707 --> 01:57:35,947
Speaker 29: right now, so there are no excuses for us. Also,

2258
01:57:36,027 --> 01:57:38,827
Speaker 29: they are traveling, so we need to be there. But

2259
01:57:39,027 --> 01:57:41,907
Speaker 29: obviously that's the challenge. How we we don't have time

2260
01:57:41,987 --> 01:57:44,307
Speaker 29: to practice. Everything is going to be kind of through

2261
01:57:44,347 --> 01:57:49,547
Speaker 29: the film and the scout and preparation and probably you're

2262
01:57:49,587 --> 01:57:52,147
Speaker 29: not going to feel perfect. But you know this is

2263
01:57:52,347 --> 01:57:56,147
Speaker 29: you know one of those games you see how mentally

2264
01:57:56,227 --> 01:57:59,667
Speaker 29: tough you can be and then be ready for another fight.

2265
01:57:59,747 --> 01:58:01,347
Speaker 29: It's not going to be easy to you still got

2266
01:58:01,507 --> 01:58:04,867
Speaker 29: you know, they have their own problems like us, but

2267
01:58:05,067 --> 01:58:07,587
Speaker 29: you know they still got quality, so we need to

2268
01:58:07,667 --> 01:58:10,147
Speaker 29: be really ready for another fight and play good game

2269
01:58:10,187 --> 01:58:10,947
Speaker 29: if you want to take win.

2270
01:58:10,987 --> 01:58:13,387
Speaker 2: There and now, the man at the moment, Kareem low

2271
01:58:13,467 --> 01:58:16,467
Speaker 2: Peers with the thirty two points, a couple of thoughts

2272
01:58:16,507 --> 01:58:20,187
Speaker 2: from him, How did he know when it was time

2273
01:58:20,267 --> 01:58:22,867
Speaker 2: for him to take over and take the majority of

2274
01:58:23,027 --> 01:58:24,067
Speaker 2: the shots for the breakers?

2275
01:58:26,347 --> 01:58:28,547
Speaker 28: Yeah, I think my mindset is pretty similar over the game.

2276
01:58:28,547 --> 01:58:30,747
Speaker 28: It's just like I'm just trying to be as aggressive

2277
01:58:30,787 --> 01:58:33,627
Speaker 28: as possible while like playing within the flow of the

2278
01:58:33,987 --> 01:58:37,907
Speaker 28: of the offense and just like making right decisions. But

2279
01:58:38,147 --> 01:58:40,547
Speaker 28: I just, I mean, I knew the situation we had.

2280
01:58:40,547 --> 01:58:43,227
Speaker 28: I knew like I had to step up, and like

2281
01:58:43,347 --> 01:58:46,267
Speaker 28: I knew we needed that. So it's just happy I

2282
01:58:46,347 --> 01:58:47,187
Speaker 28: did it and we had to win.

2283
01:58:47,507 --> 01:58:49,907
Speaker 2: And what were the thoughts going through Kareem low Peerz's

2284
01:58:49,947 --> 01:58:52,187
Speaker 2: mind when it was going so well and he had

2285
01:58:52,227 --> 01:58:54,867
Speaker 2: effectively taken over the offensive responsibility.

2286
01:58:55,267 --> 01:58:57,707
Speaker 28: Honestly, I didn't even realize because like the game was

2287
01:58:57,747 --> 01:58:59,827
Speaker 28: just going like very fast.

2288
01:58:59,867 --> 01:59:02,027
Speaker 22: There's a lot of that transition, a lot of that's good.

2289
01:59:02,067 --> 01:59:03,027
Speaker 22: You don't think you're played.

2290
01:59:03,107 --> 01:59:07,347
Speaker 28: I was just going a lot of fouling a lot

2291
01:59:07,387 --> 01:59:09,307
Speaker 28: of stuff. So I was, I was, I was just

2292
01:59:09,347 --> 01:59:11,027
Speaker 28: in the game. I wasn't thinking about the points and

2293
01:59:11,147 --> 01:59:13,667
Speaker 28: I just looked up and I was, I got twenty eight.

2294
01:59:14,307 --> 01:59:17,987
Speaker 2: And how has his two year journey led him to

2295
01:59:18,107 --> 01:59:18,627
Speaker 2: this moment.

2296
01:59:18,907 --> 01:59:22,587
Speaker 28: Yeah, I think it's been a great process so far

2297
01:59:22,667 --> 01:59:26,227
Speaker 28: as to some games left, and we want to make

2298
01:59:26,267 --> 01:59:30,667
Speaker 28: a playoffs so hopefully more. But yeah, I feel like

2299
01:59:30,907 --> 01:59:33,507
Speaker 28: I've done stuff like this before, but I wasn't able

2300
01:59:33,547 --> 01:59:35,787
Speaker 28: to capitalize and like finish the game show, you know.

2301
01:59:35,947 --> 01:59:38,027
Speaker 28: I had games were like throughout three quarters, I was

2302
01:59:38,067 --> 01:59:39,587
Speaker 28: like really good, and then the last quarter I just

2303
01:59:39,707 --> 01:59:41,747
Speaker 28: kind of disappeared, And I guess it's kind of normal

2304
01:59:41,827 --> 01:59:43,347
Speaker 28: for like a young player, but I just wanted to

2305
01:59:43,507 --> 01:59:46,027
Speaker 28: like get a little extra at the end. I feel

2306
01:59:46,027 --> 01:59:47,547
Speaker 28: like I did it to night, So pretty pretty happy

2307
01:59:47,547 --> 01:59:47,827
Speaker 28: about that.

2308
01:59:48,027 --> 01:59:51,787
Speaker 2: That is a Kareem lowpiez but a yeah, a breakout

2309
01:59:51,827 --> 01:59:54,467
Speaker 2: game last night with with those thirty two points, so

2310
01:59:54,987 --> 01:59:58,307
Speaker 2: the Breakers are one win back from the top six.

2311
01:59:58,427 --> 02:00:01,787
Speaker 2: They take on the jack Jumpers, who are one position

2312
02:00:01,907 --> 02:00:06,827
Speaker 2: above them on the table in Hobart tomorrow, so yeah,

2313
02:00:07,467 --> 02:00:11,067
Speaker 2: pretty important game for the Breakers. They will then come

2314
02:00:11,147 --> 02:00:14,267
Speaker 2: back home next Thursday. That's the fifth of February, the

2315
02:00:14,427 --> 02:00:20,067
Speaker 2: night before White Tangi Day, where they'll take on Southeast Melbourne.

2316
02:00:20,307 --> 02:00:23,307
Speaker 2: Then it is at home again to the Illawarra Hawks

2317
02:00:23,707 --> 02:00:26,907
Speaker 2: that is on Saturday, so week today, the following Saturday

2318
02:00:27,027 --> 02:00:30,067
Speaker 2: away to Adelaide and then at home to the Ken's

2319
02:00:30,107 --> 02:00:33,467
Speaker 2: Taipe Hands on Thursday, the nineteenth of February. So five

2320
02:00:33,587 --> 02:00:37,147
Speaker 2: regular season games to go and still well and truly

2321
02:00:37,187 --> 02:00:40,227
Speaker 2: in that playoff hunt the New Zealand Breakers as they

2322
02:00:40,307 --> 02:00:45,627
Speaker 2: look to push towards the top six to the Super

2323
02:00:45,667 --> 02:00:49,147
Speaker 2: Smash Women's Final in christ Church where Auckland are batting

2324
02:00:49,187 --> 02:00:52,707
Speaker 2: first against the Wellington Blaze. We're in the tenth over

2325
02:00:52,867 --> 02:00:57,587
Speaker 2: currently there's a DRS review going on for either a

2326
02:00:57,667 --> 02:01:00,547
Speaker 2: runout or a stumping. They're just rocking and rolling the

2327
02:01:00,627 --> 02:01:04,667
Speaker 2: coverage and Auckland, having won the toss and elected to

2328
02:01:04,747 --> 02:01:07,787
Speaker 2: bat first, have just lost their second wicket by way

2329
02:01:08,427 --> 02:01:10,707
Speaker 2: of a runout. Looks as though it's preu Catton in

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Speaker 2: fact a stumping. It was pre Catten stumped by Jess

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Speaker 2: mcfagen off the bowling of Jess Simmons. So that's two

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Speaker 2: wickets down for Auckland now in the tenth over, but

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Speaker 2: going along quite nicely sixty eight for two against the

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Speaker 2: defending champion at Wellington Blaze in the women's Super Smash

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Speaker 2: final and Hagley over all. The men's came to follow

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Speaker 2: the Northern Brave up against the Canterbury Kings coming up

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Speaker 2: nine and a half to three. News Talks edb.

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Speaker 1: The Scoon from the track Fields and the Court on

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Speaker 1: your Home of Lord Weekends for it. Where's Jason Vine.

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Speaker 2: The News Talks NB coming up six away from the three.

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Speaker 2: That's pretty much it for weekend sport for today. Quick

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Speaker 2: look ahead to tomorrow's show after medatamor I want to

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Speaker 2: talk about the upcoming T twenty Cricket World Cup, but

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Speaker 2: more in a wider sense as to where it fits

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Speaker 2: and amongst all of the cricket that has played these days.

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Speaker 2: Is it still prestigious? Or is the fifty over World Cup,

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Speaker 2: which happens only once every four years compared to the

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Speaker 2: T twenty once every two years, is that actually a

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Speaker 2: more prestigious format? How do we fit it all in

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Speaker 2: with more and more franchise leagues popping up all over

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Speaker 2: the place. Martin Snedden, one of our best players and

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Speaker 2: foremost Administrator's going to join us after midday tomorrow. Talk

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Speaker 2: about that. We've got some golf, some tennis, some football

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Speaker 2: and other bit some pieces on the show tomorrow as well.

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Speaker 2: Tim Beverage after three with the Weekend Collective. Thank you

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Speaker 2: for listening. Thanks to Andy McDonald for pulling the show together.

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Speaker 2: What's our exit song today? Mate? Well, Piney you might

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Speaker 2: want to send yourself into that, but I'm going to

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Speaker 2: send me on my way by Rusted Roots. Okay, see tomorrow, folks.

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Speaker 32: Everybody else, well, im.

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Speaker 30: A blue, give me a clue.

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Speaker 22: I'm not too old.

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Speaker 6: Man, I'm not too old.

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Speaker 32: Man.

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Speaker 6: Away to me, I'm a bad.

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Speaker 9: To me, I'm a lad.

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Speaker 14: To be a by Give me a b.

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Speaker 2: Do rich up.

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Speaker 9: Os.

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Speaker 2: Oh that's tell you'd row.

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Speaker 22: To see everybody else.

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Speaker 1: For more from Weekend Sport with Jason Fine. Listen live

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Speaker 1: to news Talks it Be weekends from midday, or follow

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Speaker 1: the podcast on iHeartRadio.