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Speaker 3: That'd be good afternoon seven after four break and have

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Speaker 3: your company coming up on the program. We'll look at

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Speaker 3: the America's Cup and the funding that they're not going

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Speaker 3: We'll speak to Hospitality and z after five. Mark Robinson

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Speaker 3: from endz R on the deal that they've reached with Enios.

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Speaker 3: Are they better off neutral worse off than if this

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Speaker 3: whole thing never happened? Also this afternoon the gecko, the

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Speaker 3: us eighty five thousand dollars to save? Was it worth it?

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Speaker 2: Ryan Bridge?

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Speaker 3: The culture wars have well and truly arrived. In case

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Speaker 3: The Greens organize a protest, they don a he job.

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Speaker 3: They depending on the crowd, depending on the occasion, they'll

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Speaker 3: this stuff is imported from overseas from offshore and we're

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Speaker 3: a few years behind. But once the algorithms start feeding

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Speaker 3: off Americas, we wind up with the same punch ups

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Speaker 3: at protests, the death threats, and the divided society which

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Speaker 3: no one really wants. What we haven't yet had in

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Speaker 3: In the US today, Trump has announced a review of

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Speaker 3: they're basically these university campuses are allowing anti semitism on

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Speaker 3: campuses as ground zero four culture wars as well, but

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Speaker 3: national clearly isn't in the mood for taking drastic action

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Speaker 3: with holding funding to force change for example. Instead, what

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Speaker 3: that they say are being created. Why because the universities

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Speaker 3: The only way that would really happen is if National

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Speaker 3: and it won't. Why Well, it would shift the focus

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Speaker 3: away from issues that the center voters care more about,

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Speaker 3: like the economy, like the cost of living, like crime

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Speaker 3: right unlike in the United States here under MMP. That's

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Speaker 3: just how the cookie crumbles, That's how the system works.

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Speaker 3: For most people. These issues are periphery, but for a

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Speaker 3: four news talks MB, The Ministry of Education has released

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Speaker 3: their draft English curriculum for high schoolers. Suggested reads include

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Speaker 3: George Orwell's nineteen eighty four Great Book I read that

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Speaker 3: of course is in They're compulsory for seniors. English Teachers

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Speaker 3: How are you good? Thank you? So are you happy

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Speaker 5: Isn't that a big question? And not entirely. There's definitely

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Speaker 3: Let's start with those. What don't you like about it?

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Speaker 5: How full it is in the expectations for teachers to

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Speaker 3: So for years for seniors twelve and thirteen, you've got

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Speaker 4: Now?

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Speaker 3: What language you're talking about? What word are they using?

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Speaker 5: And I think Ryan, that's a really good phrase that

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Speaker 3: All right, but appreciate your time. That's the English Teachers

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Speaker 3: Association President Pip Tinning on the program talking about this

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Speaker 3: on News Talk VB. We'll get to Darcy with sport.

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Speaker 2: Next, it's the Heather du Bussy Allen Drive Full Show.

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Speaker 3: Four eighteen News Talks EB. I'll get some of your

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Speaker 3: Hey Darcy, Hello, Ryan, good afternoon, Good afternoon. The America's Cup.

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Speaker 3: You're a fanatic, and I'm off, I'd like to see

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Speaker 8: Well, the question is the question is that I don't

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Speaker 3: Well, here I'll tell you. I'll give you a real

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Speaker 3: So they are funding ten thousand extra elective surgeries by

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Speaker 3: then you think about, well, what's the benefit to society

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Speaker 8: You can't just look at an individual amount of money

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Speaker 3: Now, but there's not enough money.

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Speaker 8: That's not money.

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Speaker 8: There's a lot of key you're rocking around the place.

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Speaker 4: But you never see it.

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Speaker 8: And why wouldn't I. Brad Butterworth is going to join

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Speaker 3: So the government's released a list of books that kids

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Speaker 3: It'd be you and it is twenty four away from

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Speaker 3: Murray Olds with our Australia correspondent Murray, Good afternoon, right, yeah,

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Speaker 3: so no surprises. They're the Reserve Bank held steady.

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Speaker 12: And so there's going to be a whole lot of this.

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Speaker 3: I'm going to assure you this sounds like you're already

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Speaker 12: Oh, it's just weird. I mean it is significantly weird.

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Speaker 6: Is it North Sydney?

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Speaker 12: I think it maybe North Sydney. Anyway, she's had her

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Speaker 12: after my hair, thanks very much? And I didn't even

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Speaker 3: What what?

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Speaker 12: What is the disconnect with just I mean, hello, it's

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Speaker 3: Why would you say, is this a woman? The candidate's

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Speaker 12: Female hairdresser, I mean, what's the what are you trying

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Speaker 3: Is she lesbian? No, I have no idea.

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Speaker 12: I know the six preference would never clues you got

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Speaker 12: I'm halfway there. It's just a dumb, dumb comet, completely unnecessary,

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Speaker 14: She really say that?

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Speaker 4: Yes, she did?

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Speaker 3: Stupid, stupid, All right, Murray, thank you for that. We'll

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Speaker 3: A long way to go? What is it another month

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Speaker 3: improve the safety of the roads. They want to widen

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Speaker 3: the road. Great. Sounds like a good thing, but hang on,

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Speaker 3: first you need to do an eighty five thousand dollars

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Speaker 3: catching and rehoming of the skinks and the geckos. So

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Speaker 3: this is in order to have the works done. And

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Speaker 3: we wonder why in New Zealand roading and infrastructure projects

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Speaker 3: cost us so much. I mean, are we serious? But anyway,

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Speaker 3: this is apparently true out of we'll talk about it

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Speaker 3: after five. But eighty five thousand dollars for catching and

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Speaker 3: rehoming one skink and two geckos. Now, by my calculations,

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Speaker 3: it's nearly thirty thousand dollars per skink. That is a

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Speaker 3: lot of money. The skink catchers did the job in

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Speaker 3: three weeks with traps, and three ecologists were brought into

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Speaker 3: the region to do the work. I'm guessing that's where

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Speaker 3: you got the eighty five thousand dollars from. I mean,

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Speaker 3: doesn't take long to work out at the cost of

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Speaker 3: an Air New Zealand flight into New Plymouth, how quickly

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Speaker 3: that bill would add up over three weeks. Anyway, three ecologists,

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Speaker 3: three weeks, three skinks and eighty five thousand dollars. We'll

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Speaker 3: look at that after five point fifteen. Barrisoper, next politics

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Speaker 3: with centrics, credit, check your customers and get payments certainty.

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Speaker 3: We'll look at the America's cup after five. Barry Sloper

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Speaker 3: is here now, Hey, Barry, Good afternoon Rome. Now have

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Speaker 3: been a busy old afternoon in Parliament as always, the

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Speaker 3: Maori Party refusing to attend the Privileges Committee. This is

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Speaker 3: over the hacker gate.

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Speaker 15: Yes, the due to go before the Privileges Committee tomorrow.

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Speaker 15: It's cheered by Judith Collins, the Attorney General, but they're

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Speaker 15: refusing to They're basically saying it's discriminatory. It's not recognizing Tekanga,

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Speaker 15: it's not allowing them to be represented by their council. Well,

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Speaker 15: nobody's ever represented by their council. The council can make

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Speaker 15: opening statements at a committee meeting, but they can't cross examine.

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Speaker 15: And it's a parliamentary committee, so it's not a court

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Speaker 15: of law interests. I found that the Maldi party's lawyer

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Speaker 15: in this case can't attend tomorrow. It's none other than

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Speaker 15: Chris fin Layson for the National Party. Attorney General is

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Speaker 15: now appearing for the Maldi Party. Apparently Chris is in

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Speaker 15: the High Court tomorrow so he can't make it there.

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Speaker 15: Wanting it to be delayed until the seventh of April,

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Speaker 15: but the committee have denied it. Judith Collins denied their

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Speaker 15: request as saying the hearing would proceed as scheduled tomorrow

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Speaker 15: afternoon whilst we're on air four to five point thirty

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Speaker 15: tomorrow afternoon. Each member will appear independently, even though they wanted.

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Speaker 8: To appear together.

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Speaker 15: You can imagine what a muzzle that would be but

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Speaker 15: they're allowed to be in the room when each of

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Speaker 15: them does appear, but they're not going to be there anyway,

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Speaker 15: So I'm not going to make a differends.

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Speaker 3: So what's the punishment can you force?

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Speaker 15: Hey, they the committee can come down with a determination.

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Speaker 15: And you're remember last week it was Penny Henade who

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Speaker 15: was asked to apologize to the House for he wasn't

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Speaker 15: nearly the perpetrator that these three were. I mean they

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Speaker 15: got out of their seats, out of their benches, went

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Speaker 15: over to the act Party and I re would pack her,

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Speaker 15: even though she would deny she did it. She pointed

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Speaker 15: a finger like a pistol at David Seymour and basically

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Speaker 15: was making as though she was pulling the trigger. Their

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Speaker 15: offense is much more serious. But look, I don't have

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Speaker 15: any great faith in what is always described as the

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Speaker 15: powerful Privileges Committee to come down with anything very significant,

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Speaker 15: not very powerful.

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Speaker 3: So the Maori Party have been and question time, they've

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Speaker 3: been having to go at the government over cops.

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Speaker 15: Yeah, well they had to be busy with something, didn't they.

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Speaker 15: Because I'm not going to the Privileges Committee meeting tomorrow.

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Speaker 15: So the certainly taking up with the Greens Tamotha Paul

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Speaker 15: left off getting stuck into the police. It was clear

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Speaker 15: they're co leader Rawerie way to tease zeroed in on

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Speaker 15: the Prime Minister, but it didn't get him very far.

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Speaker 16: Will he support the Maori Party policy requiring police officers

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Speaker 16: to wear mandatory body cameras.

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Speaker 17: Well, I'll take my advice from the police. I backed

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Speaker 17: them with any tools that they need to do their job.

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Speaker 17: But I'm very proud that our police are out there

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Speaker 17: on the beat.

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Speaker 16: Will does government implement the recommendations of the Understanding Police

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Speaker 16: Delivery Report, in which the New Zealand Police found that

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Speaker 16: structural racism within the policies is the reason mary are

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Speaker 16: more likely to be stopped, tasered and prosecuted.

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Speaker 14: I back our police.

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Speaker 17: Our police are out there making sure that they catch criminals.

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Speaker 16: Does he accept any discrimination in the police.

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Speaker 17: I don't agree with statements that I have said that

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Speaker 17: there is structural racial discrimination in the police at all.

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Speaker 4: See.

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Speaker 15: So I didn't get him very far. I thought the

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Speaker 15: Prime Minister was fairly cool. Carmen collected in the face

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Speaker 15: of the question.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, certainly under it right. The Greens are back on

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Speaker 3: the bandwagon, though, don't tell me, Barry.

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Speaker 15: They can't be forgotten their cracked record. Leader Chloe Swarbrick,

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Speaker 15: fresh from defending her nine non binary MP Benjamin Doyle,

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Speaker 15: was back on her favorite topic again in the House

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Speaker 15: with Chris luxon.

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Speaker 18: Does the Prime Minister accept that a fixation on profit

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Speaker 18: at all costs leads to a rising cost of living

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Speaker 18: for New Zealanders.

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Speaker 17: Well, the member seems to have a challenge or a

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Speaker 17: problem with organizations making a profit.

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Speaker 14: My point is that that is a good thing.

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Speaker 17: They are investing, they're taking risks, they're investing capital when.

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Speaker 18: We see it so clearly driving the cost of living.

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Speaker 18: Where the Prime Minister might agree that corporate profiteering is

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Speaker 18: not quote a good.

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Speaker 17: Thing, well, I just reject totally the way the member

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Speaker 17: is characterizing profit.

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Speaker 19: Right on with could the Prime Minister piece explain that

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Speaker 19: if a business does not make a profit, it goes broke,

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Speaker 19: and the employer and employee, the staff and everybody loses

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Speaker 19: their work.

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Speaker 17: That is exactly right, That's how it works.

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Speaker 15: That's economics one oh one. I think Chloe Swarbrick and

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Speaker 15: Madame and Davidson, in fact, all of the Green Caucus

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Speaker 15: should go along to an economics lecture. Although Julianne Genter,

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Speaker 15: well known Green MP, she claims to be an economist,

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Speaker 15: so maybe they should take some instruction off her.

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Speaker 14: She's very silent on them.

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Speaker 3: Here's the thing about this, Barry, because this is the

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Speaker 3: probably fourth profit trust in Parliament. But what Chloe Swarbrick

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Speaker 3: will be doing with these clips is putting them on

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Speaker 3: her Instagram and they're obviously doing quite well. I don't

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Speaker 3: know because I don't go on Instagram, but they're obviously

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Speaker 3: doing very very well, which is why she keeps sipping

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Speaker 3: back to it. Right, So there's obviously portioness of New

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Speaker 3: Zealand society who really do believe that corporate profit hearing,

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Speaker 3: as she puts it, is a major problem in New

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Speaker 3: Zealand and they are to blame for driving the cost

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Speaker 3: of living, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 15: But they argue at a more base level in that

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Speaker 15: she did mention profitteering there. But there are the more

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Speaker 15: base level they don't like the idea of profit. It

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Speaker 15: would seem per se like the investment, the overseas investment

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Speaker 15: encouraging it into the country. They're against them making a profit.

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Speaker 15: I mean, we're not a welfare agency in this country.

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Speaker 15: If you want to invest in us. Of course you've

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Speaker 15: got to have a return on your money.

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Speaker 3: Very Soper, never a truer word said, very sober, senior

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Speaker 3: little correspondent here on News Talks MB. It's eight away

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Speaker 3: from five. We'll look at the America's cup after five o'clock.

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Speaker 3: Presumably they'd fund that. I mean, who cares, you know,

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Speaker 3: to throw the money at anything. We're also going to

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Speaker 3: look after five o'clock at enzid R and the fact

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Speaker 3: that they've come to a deal with Nios see zid Are.

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Speaker 3: Where would they be without money in the coffers? It's

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Speaker 3: not worth really thinking about, is it?

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Speaker 1: Putting the tough questions to the newspeakers the mic asking breakfast.

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Speaker 10: Finally, the government looks to bring a bit of real

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Speaker 10: world back to the mad business rules and regulation around

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Speaker 10: the workplace, workplace relations in safety.

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Speaker 14: Minister Brooklyn Belden is with us. Are you up ending us?

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Speaker 20: We're going to make it a lot clearer, so you

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Speaker 20: only need to focus on your critical risks, things that

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Speaker 20: will actually cause people harm, rather than posters saying warning

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Speaker 20: hot water or warning.

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Speaker 6: Here is a staircase.

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Speaker 20: We've got to bring some common sense back to New Zealand.

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Speaker 10: My experience to be frank, A lot of that stuff,

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Speaker 10: you know, the silly stuff is ignored anyway.

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Speaker 2: Well, a lot of.

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Speaker 20: It is companies finding they're spending a lot of money

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Speaker 20: on over compliance because they are fearful of prosecution.

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Speaker 10: Back tomorrow at six am, the mic asking breakfast with

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Speaker 10: the rain drove of the lam used talk.

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Speaker 3: ZB five away from five, So eighty five thousand dollars

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Speaker 3: to save the life of three skinks in New Plymouth.

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Speaker 3: This is a roading project that was held up for

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Speaker 3: three weeks so they could go in there, the biologists

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Speaker 3: and they could hunt and catch and then release or

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Speaker 3: re home three skinks. A lot of people are texting

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Speaker 3: and I'm a civil engineer. We had to change a

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Speaker 3: site design for one of the talcos and the foundation

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Speaker 3: costs went up thirty thousand dollars. Also that we wouldn't

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Speaker 3: disturb a flax plant that had a single skink living

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Speaker 3: in it. This country as bonkers. There's lots of examples

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Speaker 3: of this kind of stuff. Ryan. We had to divert

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Speaker 3: a river to stop it washing out of road. They

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Speaker 3: had two guys watching for fish in two days at

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Speaker 3: a cost of twenty five thousand dollars. Usually the fish

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Speaker 3: bugger off when the digger starts digging. I guess the

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Speaker 3: question is where did the fish go? But with the

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Speaker 3: three skinks in New Plymouth and we are going to

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Speaker 3: talk to someone and they know about this after five,

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Speaker 3: where could they not just scatter further into the bush?

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Speaker 3: You know what I mean, like they're widening the road.

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Speaker 3: We'll do this, move five meters the other way. I

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Speaker 3: don't really understand anyway. We'll talk about that at five

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Speaker 3: point fifteen after five the America's Cup and has Chris

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Speaker 3: Hipkins position on that changed? All ahead News TALKSB.

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Speaker 1: To questions, answers, thanks analysis, the drive show you trust

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Speaker 1: for the full picture. Brian Bridge on hither Dupless Allen

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Speaker 1: Drive with one New Zealand Let's get connected.

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Speaker 3: News Talks dB Good evening at a seven after five

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Speaker 3: News talks. 'd be the America's Cup not coming home

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Speaker 3: in twenty twenty seven? Why because the government's not putting

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Speaker 3: any money in. Basically, the Sports Minister Mark Mitchell said

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Speaker 3: it would have cost us this is just the taxpayers alone,

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Speaker 3: would have cost us seventy five million dollars. I thought

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Speaker 3: would be really good the country.

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Speaker 21: But I fully acknowledge that we're in a tight spot

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Speaker 21: fasically at the moment, and that seventy five million dollars

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Speaker 21: has better spend another areas.

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Speaker 3: Steve Armitage's the chief executive Hospitality and Z with me tonight.

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Speaker 14: Hi, Steve hi Ran, how are you?

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Speaker 3: I'm good. I don't imagine this is going to be

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Speaker 3: a welcome decision for you. But can you understand why

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Speaker 3: they've made it?

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Speaker 22: I can certainly understand it from a and I think

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Speaker 22: the rhetoric that they're playing around it obviously plays well

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Speaker 22: to the general populace. But I think it's only one

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Speaker 22: side of the argument. I don't think it's reasonable to

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Speaker 22: say that this is money that just goes into a

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Speaker 22: black hole. Actually, the event can help to bolster government

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Speaker 22: coffers through GST revenue from the teams being here and

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Speaker 22: established over a period of time, investment and technology, both

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Speaker 22: building componentry even before you get to the visitation. So

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Speaker 22: in my view, this is one of those instances where

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Speaker 22: you're actually making an investment to unlock the greater return

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Speaker 22: over time.

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Speaker 3: The government says, look, we've got surgeries to fun, we've

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Speaker 3: got roads to build. All of those things have great

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Speaker 3: economic outcomes too, and is it the Gov's government's business

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Speaker 3: at this particular point in time to be picking winners

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Speaker 3: with events.

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Speaker 22: Well, on the one hand, again you can make that argument,

658
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Speaker 22: but also we've heard consistent messages this year around the

659
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Speaker 22: need to grow our economy, to lift visited numbers, and

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Speaker 22: also to move away from a culture of saying no.

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Speaker 22: So my argument would be that this seems to run

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Speaker 22: counter to that. But again, even if we were to

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Speaker 22: say that hosting the event here would generate half of

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Speaker 22: the economic benefit that has been reported from Barcelona, which

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Speaker 22: would be around a billion dollars, the GST take a

666
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Speaker 22: loan from that would be around one hundred and fifty million,

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Speaker 22: So you're doubling your money, and you can invest that

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Speaker 22: into surgeries and fixing roads and so on. So again,

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Speaker 22: it just seems like it's been a little bit of

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Speaker 22: a simplistic assessment in this instance. It would have been

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Speaker 22: better to think about the longer term benefits from hosting

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Speaker 22: the event.

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Speaker 3: I suppose the other problem you've got is the once

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Speaker 3: bitten twice shy because the COVID one we made a

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Speaker 3: loss on, right, So people will probably think, oh, well

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Speaker 3: we've heard this before.

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Speaker 22: Yeah, But I think also people are smart enough to

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Speaker 22: realize that we weren't able to deliver the event as

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Speaker 22: it was in ten. It for all the reasons that

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Speaker 22: people are. People well understand, and you raise an interesting

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Speaker 22: point because you know there is investment in infrastructure to

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Speaker 22: host this particular event as well as other large scale

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Speaker 22: and water events. So you know we've invested that time

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Speaker 22: and effort and energy and funding and to deliver a

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Speaker 22: place that can host successfully the America's Cup. We should

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Speaker 22: be utilizing it.

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Speaker 3: Steve, really appreciate your time tonight. Steve Armitage, chief executive

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Speaker 3: at Hospitality and Z not happy with the decision nine

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Speaker 3: after five. So the legal battle between Z and Enios

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Speaker 3: is over. In fact, it didn't even really have to

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Speaker 3: go to court. They did take them to the High

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Speaker 3: Court for trying to back out of their sponsorship contract,

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Speaker 3: but they both settled out of court. Mark Robinson's the

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Speaker 3: n z R chief executive with me tonight. HOI Mark, Ryan, Hi,

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Speaker 3: how are you good to have you on? So are

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Speaker 3: you feeling pretty good about how much you got out

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Speaker 3: of them?

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Speaker 23: Well, you know, obviously we can't talk them too much

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Speaker 23: detail about that, but.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, we're pleased.

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Speaker 23: There's been a settlement reached. We were pretty open from

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Speaker 23: when we started communicating this that we believed we had

703
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Speaker 23: a really strong position and it's just been nice to

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Speaker 23: be able to work for in a radially quick amount

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Speaker 23: of time and find a resolution.

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Speaker 3: It has been quite quick. Did you think do you

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Speaker 3: think any of us expected you to just roll over

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Speaker 3: rather than actually lawyer up and take it to court.

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Speaker 4: Oh?

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Speaker 23: Look, I probably wouldn't speculate on what we thought they

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Speaker 23: might do or not do. What we were really focused

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Speaker 23: on what we thought our position was, and we were

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Speaker 23: really clear on that, and then we spend a bit

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Speaker 23: of time thinking about what the right process was. And clearly,

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Speaker 23: you know, I don't want to go back in time

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Speaker 23: too much. But once it was a breach like there was,

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Speaker 23: and we were in a position where we'd deliver on

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Speaker 23: everything on our side of the contract, we felt it

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Speaker 23: was right to initiate it, initiate the process we did.

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Speaker 3: Gregor Paul reckons that you've got your money for twenty

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Speaker 3: twenty five, which would be about twenty one million dollars

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Speaker 3: plus a small additional payment for remaining two years. Is

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Speaker 3: that way off?

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Speaker 23: I didn't catch all of that, but look like I'm

725
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Speaker 23: not going to come in any detail like I say.

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Speaker 23: Where we've been able to work through it. Our teams

727
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Speaker 23: put a huge amount of work into it. We're pleased.

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Speaker 23: We've got to.

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Speaker 3: What is your policy going forward? Do you care whose

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Speaker 3: name is on the Black Jersey? And would you care

731
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Speaker 3: if it was BP or you know, or Green Peace?

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Speaker 3: Is there anything political in the decisions you make or

733
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Speaker 3: is it just financial?

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Speaker 23: Well as a range of considerations we have when we

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Speaker 23: look at potential partners Ryan, So you know, there's obviously

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Speaker 23: a reputational piece, there's clearly a commercial piece, there's a

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Speaker 23: brand and values fit piece. So you know they are

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Speaker 23: part of the processes that we always work through and

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Speaker 23: those are being refined.

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Speaker 2: All the time.

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Speaker 23: You know, as we sort of grow as an organization

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Speaker 23: and think differently about our partnerships, it's constantly something that's

743
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Speaker 23: under a view.

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Speaker 3: How are you thinking differently?

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Speaker 23: Well, we're constantly reviewing what we're doing in partnerships, how

746
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Speaker 23: we bring value to these partnerships. We're looking at different

747
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Speaker 23: markets around the world, We're looking at where our teams

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Speaker 23: are playing, We're looking at our digital reach. There's a

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Speaker 23: whole range of activity that we're part of now that

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Speaker 23: provides value to partners. So yes, it's constant evolution. We've

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Speaker 23: talked a lot about how exciting it is, you know,

752
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Speaker 23: the business of sport at the moment, and we're right

753
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Speaker 23: in the middle of a really interesting time.

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Speaker 3: All right, Mark, good luck with the next sponsorship. Mark Robinson,

755
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Speaker 3: the NZ CEO with US thirteen after five. Chris Hipkins

756
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Speaker 3: just coming back to the business of We're in the

757
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Speaker 3: business of sport in two ways this afternoon, aren't we really?

758
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Speaker 3: With the America's Cup and with Mark Robinson and ended up.

759
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Speaker 3: But let's go back to the America's Cup for second.

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Speaker 3: Chris Hipkins has come out and said he pretty much

761
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Speaker 3: would like the government to take another look at the

762
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Speaker 3: America's Cup.

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Speaker 24: Do you'll have a listen, The whole country benefits from

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Speaker 24: the America's Cup. The flow on benefits from that aren't

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Speaker 24: just around the event itself, but actually you know, having

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Speaker 24: all those teams based in New Zealand, the technology that

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Speaker 24: comes without the innovation that comes with that.

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Speaker 3: But then you've got how many other events do you fund?

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Speaker 3: You could make the same argument about Eden Park. I

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Speaker 3: mean where does it stop? And I think the point

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Speaker 3: that this government has been making and rejecting both Eden

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Speaker 3: Park and the America's Cup is we're back to basics.

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Speaker 3: And today on that Simon Brown puts out a press

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Speaker 3: release because you know how we're spending, you know, so

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Speaker 3: America's Cup seventy five million dollars elective surgeries to get

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Speaker 3: ten thousand of them through the public private system, that

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Speaker 3: is fifty million dollars. And he's given an update today

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Speaker 3: saying in the last month they've managed to chew through

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Speaker 3: two thousand. So that's two thousand cataracts or tonsils or

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Speaker 3: knees or hernia repairs or whatever it might be. That's

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Speaker 3: all in the space of a month. And they're going

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Speaker 3: to get through the ten thousand by June. So that's

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Speaker 3: the other that's the flip side of the argument, isn't

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Speaker 3: it fourteen minutes after five news talks, there'd be the

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Speaker 3: three skinks that we save for eighty five k Next.

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Speaker 3: Staying at a hotel can be a functional part of

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Speaker 3: traveling to another city, or it can be the focus

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Speaker 3: of a treat yourself weakend. It can be the destination

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Speaker 3: and when a hotel stands out as a genuinely impressive

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Speaker 3: and memorable part of the experience. It makes so much difference.

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Speaker 3: So Auckland is definitely a hotel that lives up to

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Speaker 3: that description. Sentiments the growing number of five star options

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Speaker 3: in the city of Sales that effortlessly combines modern luxury

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Speaker 3: with a spirited artistic edge, and no other city, no

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Speaker 3: other hotel rather in the city, offers you this experience.

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Speaker 3: At so Auckland. It begins with the welcome, warm, inviting, sophisticated,

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Speaker 3: no stuffiness, a comfortable vibe thanks to the hotel staff

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Speaker 3: with its bold design. Of course, all the personality in

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Speaker 3: the world won't help if the hotel's rooms aren't up

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Speaker 3: to scratch, and so Auckland put a lot of thought

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Speaker 3: into their room luxury. Every room has huge windows, you

802
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Speaker 3: can see right through the city. Free standing bath tub

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Speaker 3: is the centerpiece and all of them. Not to mention,

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Speaker 3: it's a couple of minutes walk down to the ferry

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Speaker 3: terminal and the viaducts so convenient, so comfortable. So Auckland

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Speaker 3: really is so impressive. So treat yourself, enjoy breakaway from

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Speaker 3: the every day at so Auckland. Sometimes soon ran Bridge

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Speaker 3: it has just gone eighteen minutes after five news talks,

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Speaker 3: heb we will get to after six of the health

810
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Speaker 3: and safety as the workplace safety stuff and the fact

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Speaker 3: that farmers in particular we're worried about having events held

812
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Speaker 3: on their land. Will that change after what Brook van

813
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Speaker 3: Velden has told us. We'll find out right now. A

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Speaker 3: project of rehome and catching native skinks has cost tax

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Speaker 3: payers eighty five thousand dollars. A wildlife permit was granted

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Speaker 3: by doc a head of road improvements on State Highway

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Speaker 3: three in New Plymouth. The program, though, only found three

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Speaker 3: skinks across three weeks of tracking. Professor James Russell is

819
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Speaker 3: a conservation biologist at all University with us this evening. Hi,

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Speaker 3: James good alf, No, Right, so there's one copper skink

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Speaker 3: and two gold striped geckos. Are they a big deal?

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Speaker 25: The copper skins found across New Zealand. But those gold

823
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Speaker 25: strup geckos are really special. They're only found around lowland Taranaki,

824
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Speaker 25: and as we know, a lot of Taranaki's lowland has

825
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Speaker 25: been cleared. So finding some of these species is really good,

826
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Speaker 25: so we can protect them and learn more about them.

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Speaker 25: And what's really important to remember is that New Zealand

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Speaker 25: is actually a reptile hotspot, and there's more endemic species

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Speaker 25: of skinks and geckos in New Zealand. Then there are

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Speaker 25: birds even, but we just know so little about them

831
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Speaker 25: or where they are.

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Speaker 3: So if we don't know that much about them or

833
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Speaker 3: where they are, then do we need to bother finding

834
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Speaker 3: them and rehoming them if we want to do you know,

835
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Speaker 3: we're just widening a road here.

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Speaker 25: Exactly, and I mean this road widening project cost over

837
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Speaker 25: eleven million dollars, so the actual budget for trying to

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Speaker 25: protect threatened species and relocate them less than one percent

839
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Speaker 25: of the total budget. But we don't want to take

840
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Speaker 25: a Fredd of the Frog approach here. We ought to

841
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Speaker 25: make sure we go out there and look because if

842
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Speaker 25: we don't look for these rare species, we don't see

843
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Speaker 25: them before we see as some roadside, then we're just

844
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Speaker 25: going to develop everywhere in the country. But until we

845
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Speaker 25: just put a tiny amount of our budgets aside to

846
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Speaker 25: look for these rare species, we can do better conservation

847
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Speaker 25: for them.

848
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Speaker 3: Yeah, but by the time we've dealt with the ecology

849
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Speaker 3: that there are so many other things that need dealing with.

850
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Speaker 3: The one percent plus one percent plus one percent Suddenly

851
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Speaker 3: your motorways doubled in price. Well, can I answer this

852
00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:28,600
Speaker 3: question about the skinks? So if they hit so they

853
00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:33,080
Speaker 3: widened the road, right, could the skinks not have just

854
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Speaker 3: shuffled over?

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Speaker 25: Yeah, that's exactly what we're hoping that most of the

856
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Speaker 25: skinks will shuffle over and move themselves off to the side.

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Speaker 25: But sometimes when we look on these projects, we can

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Speaker 25: find over sixty such as around the Wellington railway project,

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Speaker 25: whereas here we just found three skinks, and so it's

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Speaker 25: really good that we can find some of the ones

861
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Speaker 25: that don't shuffle away to make sure we're doing everything

862
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Speaker 25: we can for these species.

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Speaker 3: What would actually have cost eighty five thousand dollars, So

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Speaker 3: apparently there were three ecologists involved. Why was it it's

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Speaker 3: so expensive for a three week project.

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Speaker 25: It's the same thing that's so expensive whenever we do

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Speaker 25: roadworks or any kind of project. It's paying for people's

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Speaker 25: staff and time and for expertise. You need to have

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00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:12,960
Speaker 25: a certain level of expertise in training to be able

870
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Speaker 25: to do this, just as you need you to get

871
00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:17,680
Speaker 25: the construction managers going in to pay for all the roadworks.

872
00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:18,960
Speaker 25: So that's way at the end of the day, it's

873
00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:20,640
Speaker 25: just less than one percent of the project, so I

874
00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:21,719
Speaker 25: think it's a good investment.

875
00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:24,120
Speaker 3: Do you know, you, James, You're going to be really

876
00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:27,600
Speaker 3: getting up people's getting on people's nerves saying it's less

877
00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:29,640
Speaker 3: than one percent. I mean, I know it's less than

878
00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:33,399
Speaker 3: one percent, but one percent plus one percent plus one

879
00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:36,000
Speaker 3: percent plus one percent plus one percent for every gecko

880
00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:38,719
Speaker 3: and skinkn bird, it starts to add up.

881
00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:41,400
Speaker 25: I think that's that it always adds up to one

882
00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:44,239
Speaker 25: percent because you're just adding percentages, you.

883
00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:48,240
Speaker 3: Know what I'm saying, James, How endangered is the gold

884
00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:50,520
Speaker 3: striped gecko? How many do we have left?

885
00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:53,400
Speaker 25: We don't have a good estimate for how many of

886
00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:55,719
Speaker 25: the are because people aren't investing in research on them,

887
00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:59,040
Speaker 25: so it's an unknown species, but it's classified as at

888
00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:01,640
Speaker 25: risk and in decline, as most of them are. There's

889
00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:04,960
Speaker 25: over one hundred and twenty three species of skinkin geko

890
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:07,440
Speaker 25: across New Zealand. We're one of the richest biodiversity hot

891
00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:10,840
Speaker 25: spots in the world for them. So it's just another

892
00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:12,680
Speaker 25: species where we don't know what's happening, and if we

893
00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:15,719
Speaker 25: don't look, it'll just disappear and be another blot on

894
00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:17,240
Speaker 25: our record for an extinct species.

895
00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:20,960
Speaker 3: All right, appreciate your time, James. That is Professor James Russell,

896
00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:24,719
Speaker 3: conservation biotists at Auckland University talking about State Highway three

897
00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:27,000
Speaker 3: and New Plymouth where you will have a wider road,

898
00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:29,239
Speaker 3: but it will be delayed by three weeks and you

899
00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:32,839
Speaker 3: will have one percent added to your budget. Twenty two

900
00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:34,560
Speaker 3: minutes after five newstalks, HEEDB.

901
00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:37,800
Speaker 2: Checking the point of the story.

902
00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:41,279
Speaker 1: It's Ryan Bridge on here the duplice Allen drive with

903
00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:43,760
Speaker 1: one New Zealand let's get connected.

904
00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:46,600
Speaker 3: News Talk SEDB five twenty five on News Talks, EDB.

905
00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:49,880
Speaker 3: I don't understand how and why people get so worked

906
00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:52,800
Speaker 3: up about the government not putting tax payer money into

907
00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:56,360
Speaker 3: the America's cup seventy five million dollars. We would have

908
00:46:56,400 --> 00:46:58,839
Speaker 3: been on the hook for how many bits of road

909
00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:01,960
Speaker 3: would that get us, how many hospital wards would it build?

910
00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:05,279
Speaker 3: How many classrooms is seventy five million dollars worth? How

911
00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:09,440
Speaker 3: many geckos could we save? And did we not vote

912
00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:12,880
Speaker 3: this lot in to focus on the basic stuff, not

913
00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:15,160
Speaker 3: the nice to have, which is what the other lot

914
00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:19,200
Speaker 3: we're famous for. If you need proof, sailing around the

915
00:47:19,239 --> 00:47:21,960
Speaker 3: harbor is a nice to have? Look, No, further than

916
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:25,440
Speaker 3: the sponsors, your prators, your Louis Vitons. Do you know

917
00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:28,920
Speaker 3: how much a prior to handbag costs? No, neither do I.

918
00:47:29,120 --> 00:47:32,120
Speaker 3: But they look expensive, don't They Not quite a burkin,

919
00:47:32,239 --> 00:47:35,000
Speaker 3: but still enough that you would want a home safe

920
00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:36,719
Speaker 3: to store it at night time. Which is not to

921
00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:39,880
Speaker 3: say there's anything wrong with wealth or with handbags, but

922
00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:43,319
Speaker 3: if the event needs tax payer cash to prop it up,

923
00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:47,080
Speaker 3: and there isn't enough private money floating around, then, given

924
00:47:47,120 --> 00:47:49,560
Speaker 3: the state we're in as a country and all good conscience,

925
00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:54,040
Speaker 3: we must politely say no. Surely, the sailing people will

926
00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:57,440
Speaker 3: talk about economic cost benefit analyses, they'll talk about HOSPOW,

927
00:47:57,480 --> 00:48:01,120
Speaker 3: they'll talk about Auckland, Inc. But the guardians of the

928
00:48:01,160 --> 00:48:06,240
Speaker 3: taxpayer perse have other priorities. What about the economic benefits

929
00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:09,320
Speaker 3: of ten thousand extra elective surgeries that's costing US fifty

930
00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:13,360
Speaker 3: million dollars over six months. That's ten thousand hips replaced,

931
00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:17,040
Speaker 3: or knees done, or potential cancerous breasts removed, you name it.

932
00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:21,319
Speaker 3: That benefits all of us as well. There are benefits

933
00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:26,960
Speaker 3: to society. So sorry, America's Cup, sorry Prata, sorry Louis Vaton,

934
00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:32,000
Speaker 3: our government's broke doling out cash from a mankey kmart

935
00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:35,560
Speaker 3: handbag in purse covered in holes and chewing gum. And

936
00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:38,600
Speaker 3: we've got bigger fish to fry today, maybe next time.

937
00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:40,840
Speaker 2: Brian Bridge twenty.

938
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Speaker 3: Seven after five News Talks, he'vb in number of Texas

939
00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:47,319
Speaker 3: nine two niney two. Coming up after sex, we're going

940
00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:50,759
Speaker 3: to talk to hspecies Paul Bloxham. The RBA decided to

941
00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:54,440
Speaker 3: hold the ocr in Australia today. We'll ask why, what

942
00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:57,480
Speaker 3: does it mean? Also we'll look ahead to Trump's tariff

943
00:48:57,480 --> 00:49:00,840
Speaker 3: announcement that's happening tomorrow. We'll find out thurs day our time.

944
00:49:01,520 --> 00:49:05,719
Speaker 3: The Christchurch Boys High School headmaster accused of defecating on

945
00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:10,880
Speaker 3: a teacher's driveway. We will discuss. And we've got some

946
00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:14,359
Speaker 3: politicians on the huddle and reading that sentence has made

947
00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:18,120
Speaker 3: me forget who they are. But they'll be here twenty

948
00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:19,520
Speaker 3: seven half for five News talks.

949
00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:33,520
Speaker 1: Dust after making the news, the newsmakers talk to Ryan first.

950
00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:37,359
Speaker 1: It's Ryan Bridge on hither dupless elan drive with one

951
00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:40,280
Speaker 1: New Zealand let's get connected news talks.

952
00:49:40,280 --> 00:49:40,640
Speaker 2: They'd be.

953
00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:46,719
Speaker 3: Good evening twenty five away from six News Talks, they'd

954
00:49:46,719 --> 00:49:50,160
Speaker 3: be Stuart Nash former Labor Minister, Morris Williamson, former National Minister,

955
00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:52,400
Speaker 3: standing by for the huddle in just a few moments.

956
00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:55,000
Speaker 3: In christ Church. A lot of news out of Christchurch today,

957
00:49:55,080 --> 00:49:58,000
Speaker 3: some of it quite weird. Christ Church is a boy

958
00:49:58,120 --> 00:50:00,720
Speaker 3: Christchurch Boys High School. There was a teach there named

959
00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:04,719
Speaker 3: Susan Moett. Now she has taken the school to the

960
00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:09,799
Speaker 3: Employment Relations Authority. She claims unfair dismissal and things took

961
00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:12,440
Speaker 3: her quite a bizarre turn. In the hearing today she's

962
00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:17,680
Speaker 3: claimed the principal, Nick Hill, defecated on her driveway of

963
00:50:17,800 --> 00:50:22,120
Speaker 3: her home eight times. Now. She says this was payback

964
00:50:22,320 --> 00:50:26,280
Speaker 3: for her raising health and safety concerns with the principle,

965
00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:29,320
Speaker 3: and the principle not liking it, so responding by defecating

966
00:50:29,320 --> 00:50:33,520
Speaker 3: on her driveway. The lawyer for the school is the

967
00:50:33,560 --> 00:50:35,360
Speaker 3: one who actually brought this up, which I thought was

968
00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:37,200
Speaker 3: a weird twist to the story. You'd think they wouldn't

969
00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:39,520
Speaker 3: want something like that coming out anyway. The lawyer for

970
00:50:39,560 --> 00:50:41,440
Speaker 3: the school brought this up, and I'll quote what the

971
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Speaker 3: lawyer said to this teacher, Miss Moat. Presumably the students

972
00:50:46,040 --> 00:50:48,520
Speaker 3: referred to her as you had been telling people that

973
00:50:48,640 --> 00:50:52,080
Speaker 3: Nick had been defecating in your entryway. Didn't you you

974
00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:54,880
Speaker 3: had no evidence it was Nick? Did you you assumed

975
00:50:54,920 --> 00:50:59,399
Speaker 3: it was him? Now, Susan the teacher said she had

976
00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:03,160
Speaker 3: no heard evidence it was the principal. Now the herring

977
00:51:03,160 --> 00:51:06,759
Speaker 3: continues in christ Church Mowat and the school would call

978
00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:09,920
Speaker 3: a number of witnesses to support their case. Apparently the

979
00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:13,600
Speaker 3: principal will not be giving any evidence. Can you just

980
00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:18,120
Speaker 3: imagine being a schoolboy with this sort of material floating around?

981
00:51:18,640 --> 00:51:21,279
Speaker 3: It is hard enough as a grown adult to read

982
00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:23,920
Speaker 3: this with a straight face. Rich pickings for the playground

983
00:51:23,920 --> 00:51:26,800
Speaker 3: gossips around. I would have thought twenty three away.

984
00:51:26,600 --> 00:51:28,880
Speaker 2: From six Bryan Bridge, staying.

985
00:51:28,600 --> 00:51:31,239
Speaker 3: In christ Church, A new pedestrian crossing is going to

986
00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:34,200
Speaker 3: have speed bumps, but only on one side of the road.

987
00:51:34,560 --> 00:51:37,719
Speaker 3: You see, deansav runs right down the boundary between the

988
00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:42,480
Speaker 3: jurisdictions of the White Pappa and Waypoona community boards. The

989
00:51:42,520 --> 00:51:45,680
Speaker 3: why Papa Community Board has voted to include speed bumps

990
00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:48,799
Speaker 3: in the crossing, but the Waypona Community Board has not,

991
00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:51,480
Speaker 3: so the speed bumps will only be installed on the

992
00:51:51,480 --> 00:51:54,600
Speaker 3: Wye Pupper side of the road. Tyler Harrison Hunt is

993
00:51:54,960 --> 00:51:58,960
Speaker 3: from the Waypoona Board. Jake McClellan, the Wye Pappa board.

994
00:51:59,120 --> 00:52:02,560
Speaker 3: They're both with me. Good evening, Good evening, Ryan.

995
00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:05,759
Speaker 26: Good to see christ Church on the news for all

996
00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:06,520
Speaker 26: the right reasons.

997
00:52:06,640 --> 00:52:10,640
Speaker 3: Yep, No, just a couple of mentions today, Tyler. I'll

998
00:52:10,640 --> 00:52:14,200
Speaker 3: start with you. So you wait. You remind us, Tyler,

999
00:52:14,360 --> 00:52:16,239
Speaker 3: you're on the speed bump side or the non speed

1000
00:52:16,239 --> 00:52:16,880
Speaker 3: bump side.

1001
00:52:18,320 --> 00:52:21,080
Speaker 4: We were the board that voted for the non speed

1002
00:52:21,080 --> 00:52:21,600
Speaker 4: bump side.

1003
00:52:21,719 --> 00:52:24,520
Speaker 3: Okay, do you need a speed bump? Well, clearly you

1004
00:52:24,600 --> 00:52:25,600
Speaker 3: don't think so why not.

1005
00:52:28,200 --> 00:52:30,520
Speaker 4: There's a whole lot of things in play here. I'm

1006
00:52:30,600 --> 00:52:34,520
Speaker 4: the recording counselor, so that's that's my jurisdiction, particularly for

1007
00:52:34,640 --> 00:52:38,880
Speaker 4: twenty eight thousand residents in that area. But to be

1008
00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:41,040
Speaker 4: honest with you, I wanted to make sure that we

1009
00:52:41,120 --> 00:52:44,239
Speaker 4: had consensus across the board without a new scraps, so

1010
00:52:44,239 --> 00:52:45,840
Speaker 4: that we can get this done as fast as we could.

1011
00:52:46,800 --> 00:52:49,440
Speaker 4: There was differing views at the board after getting a

1012
00:52:49,480 --> 00:52:51,120
Speaker 4: sort of feel for the board, so I pushed through

1013
00:52:51,520 --> 00:52:53,520
Speaker 4: to try and at least get better than the status quo,

1014
00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:56,320
Speaker 4: which means putting them the crossing without the speed bumps.

1015
00:52:57,160 --> 00:53:01,360
Speaker 3: Okay, how dangerous is it, Jake? How many?

1016
00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:01,480
Speaker 12: Yeah?

1017
00:53:01,560 --> 00:53:05,440
Speaker 11: Look, it's dangerous when you add a crossing, which is

1018
00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:07,560
Speaker 11: what we were proposing to do. So when you add

1019
00:53:07,560 --> 00:53:10,640
Speaker 11: a crossing but you don't actually do anything to make

1020
00:53:10,680 --> 00:53:13,800
Speaker 11: people safe while they're crossing, it can become quite dangerous.

1021
00:53:13,840 --> 00:53:18,160
Speaker 11: I think Tyler's being modest. He really wanted the.

1022
00:53:19,640 --> 00:53:19,920
Speaker 3: Plan.

1023
00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:23,640
Speaker 11: The air board ended up signing off, but unfortunately, because

1024
00:53:23,680 --> 00:53:27,160
Speaker 11: of some colorful characters sitting around his table, he wasn't

1025
00:53:27,160 --> 00:53:30,000
Speaker 11: able to do so. So he did the best he

1026
00:53:30,040 --> 00:53:31,600
Speaker 11: could under the circumstances.

1027
00:53:32,200 --> 00:53:35,560
Speaker 3: Okay, so I'm just reading here. According to NZTA, there

1028
00:53:35,600 --> 00:53:38,200
Speaker 3: were six crashes in the five year period between twenty

1029
00:53:38,239 --> 00:53:40,640
Speaker 3: nineteen and twenty twenty three in the area on Dean's

1030
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Speaker 3: av No one was injured in four of the crashes

1031
00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:46,440
Speaker 3: and two people suffered just minor injuries and the others.

1032
00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:48,360
Speaker 3: I mean, what are you farting around with this bit

1033
00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:49,600
Speaker 3: of road for anyway, Tyler?

1034
00:53:51,080 --> 00:53:54,120
Speaker 4: Well, the thing is that those are the reported incidents

1035
00:53:54,239 --> 00:53:56,319
Speaker 4: is and the things that I've been dealing with. I mean,

1036
00:53:56,360 --> 00:53:58,600
Speaker 4: Rickitten is the second busiest ward in the city behind

1037
00:53:58,640 --> 00:54:01,960
Speaker 4: Central and D. You've got fifteen thousand car movements per

1038
00:54:02,080 --> 00:54:05,600
Speaker 4: day with around two thousand pedestrians. That was scoped over

1039
00:54:05,640 --> 00:54:08,160
Speaker 4: a four day span, so it's quite a lot of

1040
00:54:08,160 --> 00:54:10,560
Speaker 4: move in that area, so I just wanted to make

1041
00:54:10,560 --> 00:54:13,520
Speaker 4: the space safer and outside the mosque, I actually witnessed

1042
00:54:13,520 --> 00:54:15,960
Speaker 4: a near miss of a three year old girl I'm

1043
00:54:15,960 --> 00:54:18,359
Speaker 4: nearly being hit by a van, So it was sort

1044
00:54:18,360 --> 00:54:21,160
Speaker 4: of like drinking a cup of cold sick when I

1045
00:54:21,200 --> 00:54:23,279
Speaker 4: had to push this through. But at the end of

1046
00:54:23,320 --> 00:54:25,640
Speaker 4: the day, it's actually a massive, massive win for the

1047
00:54:25,719 --> 00:54:28,200
Speaker 4: Dean's AV residents. I'm in a massive win for the

1048
00:54:28,200 --> 00:54:30,040
Speaker 4: everyday users of Hagley Park and Dean's EV.

1049
00:54:30,840 --> 00:54:33,719
Speaker 3: Can you guys see Jake this to everyone else? I mean,

1050
00:54:33,719 --> 00:54:35,920
Speaker 3: you guys have got your processes and your meetings and

1051
00:54:35,920 --> 00:54:38,560
Speaker 3: your whatnots, But to everyone else, it just looks dumb,

1052
00:54:38,680 --> 00:54:40,960
Speaker 3: like one side of the road has a bump and the.

1053
00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:43,200
Speaker 2: Other totally totally build.

1054
00:54:43,200 --> 00:54:46,719
Speaker 11: What would be done even dumber as if neither side

1055
00:54:46,760 --> 00:54:48,600
Speaker 11: had a bump, Because as I said, it's not about

1056
00:54:48,640 --> 00:54:49,759
Speaker 11: the incidences that are there.

1057
00:54:49,800 --> 00:54:50,000
Speaker 3: Now.

1058
00:54:50,080 --> 00:54:52,480
Speaker 11: If you add a crossing, you're encouraging people to cross,

1059
00:54:52,920 --> 00:54:54,680
Speaker 11: and if you don't do anything to keep them safe

1060
00:54:54,719 --> 00:54:57,279
Speaker 11: while they cross, you're setting them up for I was

1061
00:54:57,320 --> 00:54:58,880
Speaker 11: going to say a fall, but you're setting them up

1062
00:54:58,880 --> 00:54:59,680
Speaker 11: to be hit by car.

1063
00:54:59,719 --> 00:55:02,719
Speaker 3: Really okay, but but.

1064
00:55:02,719 --> 00:55:04,600
Speaker 11: We only know it should be on both sides of

1065
00:55:04,600 --> 00:55:05,560
Speaker 11: the road, is what I'm saying.

1066
00:55:05,640 --> 00:55:07,840
Speaker 3: Ryan. Okay, but it won't be tyler because you don't

1067
00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:09,680
Speaker 3: that's a know from you guys. Right.

1068
00:55:10,680 --> 00:55:12,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, the board, the board had a different view.

1069
00:55:13,120 --> 00:55:16,320
Speaker 4: But what I did do was actually after a twelve

1070
00:55:16,440 --> 00:55:19,879
Speaker 4: twelve month review that there may very well be some

1071
00:55:19,920 --> 00:55:21,279
Speaker 4: more implementation for those.

1072
00:55:23,120 --> 00:55:25,239
Speaker 3: Okay, so what what will it actually look like? Can

1073
00:55:25,239 --> 00:55:27,400
Speaker 3: one of you tell me? What will it just look like?

1074
00:55:27,520 --> 00:55:31,080
Speaker 3: If I'm picturing a road, a normal road with with

1075
00:55:31,200 --> 00:55:35,600
Speaker 3: a normal you know, bump on it, that speed bump

1076
00:55:35,640 --> 00:55:37,880
Speaker 3: on it, it will just be that, but one side

1077
00:55:37,960 --> 00:55:41,000
Speaker 3: like chopped off pretty much. Yeap.

1078
00:55:41,080 --> 00:55:45,400
Speaker 26: But look, there'll be there'll be a there'll be a

1079
00:55:45,400 --> 00:55:47,600
Speaker 26: crossing point in the middle. There'll be a crossing point

1080
00:55:47,600 --> 00:55:51,239
Speaker 26: in the middle. And this scheme design has the platform.

1081
00:55:51,320 --> 00:55:53,239
Speaker 11: And and a kind of different orientation.

1082
00:55:53,400 --> 00:55:56,080
Speaker 26: But yeah, it'll it'll look a little bit KOOKI I'm

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Speaker 26: not gonna lie.

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Speaker 4: Not noting that it's not a it's not a platform.

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Speaker 4: It's seventy five mil speed hunt, which is sort of

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Speaker 4: what they usually use in suburban area it's a bit lower,

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Speaker 4: it's it's less some pinging on automotorist and it actually

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Speaker 4: gets the slow down a little bit.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, okay, all right, you know I was op post

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Speaker 11: the other sidehere his noe pitch.

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Speaker 3: But whatsoever, Well, exactly, I think what we need to

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Speaker 3: do is set up like you need to make this

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Speaker 3: a tourist attraction to the inefficiency of local government and

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Speaker 3: people can come and take photos for their Instagram. It

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Speaker 3: can be like a new thing. I think we should.

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Speaker 3: I think we should provide it's going to bring tourists

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Speaker 3: to your area, Guys. Tyler Harrison Hunt from the Christiat

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Speaker 3: City councilor also the Wipeurner Board. Jake McLellan, Christiat City

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Speaker 3: councilor from the Wipe Upper Board eighteen to six.

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Speaker 1: The Huddle with New Zealand Southeby's International Realty the ones

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Speaker 1: with worldwide connections that perform not a promise.

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Speaker 3: Stuart National Labor Minister on the huddle tonight. Hey Stuart,

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Speaker 3: I it's good to hear you on. Marris Williamson Aukland

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Speaker 3: councilor former National Minister. Hi Morris, good evening, Ryan, go

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Speaker 3: any views on that? Morris? You Obviously you've been sitting

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Speaker 3: in council meetings all day, you'll be familiar with all

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Speaker 3: of this.

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Speaker 21: The insanity just never stops. I mean, we find examples

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Speaker 21: where there have been almost no injuries, no one killed,

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Speaker 21: no one injured, and the argument is, yes, but there

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Speaker 21: could be one day, so we should go out with

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Speaker 21: speed bumps that wreck your cars and bottoms of some

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Speaker 21: of the emergency vehicles. Transmissions have all been broken when

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Speaker 21: they've gone home with them at speed. I mean, if

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Speaker 21: if we just let some facts interfere with things, that

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Speaker 21: will be really quite different to the normal. Will what

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Speaker 21: I loved about this thing is why don't we just

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Speaker 21: do it week on and week off, So one side

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Speaker 21: has the speed bump one week and then they turn

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Speaker 21: it round the other week. And I mean, that's that's

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Speaker 21: how that's how insane this stuff is.

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Speaker 3: That's just to your average punter, it's going to look

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Speaker 3: and sound pretty nuts.

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Speaker 4: Stuart terist attraction, that's what it is.

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Speaker 27: Yeah, make one point on this. Yeah, you know, people

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Speaker 27: in CHRISTI you're going to jump up and down. But

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Speaker 27: you know we are talking about sort of halls. Will

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Speaker 27: horn Be pappanuis sort of the boat part of christ Church.

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Speaker 27: You've got fifteen thousand cars going up and down. I'll

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Speaker 27: tell you this will be a lot more dangerous now

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Speaker 27: because what will happen is the Bogans will approach that

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Speaker 27: speed bump and instead of going over the speed bump,

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Speaker 27: they'll zoom around it to get around it, and you

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Speaker 27: will end up with a hell of a lot of

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Speaker 27: accidents in bogan christ Church.

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Speaker 14: I'm really really sorry, but this is just bloody crazy.

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Speaker 3: But Boganville, you're not going to be running with a

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Speaker 3: stupid decision. You're not going to be Prime minister anytime soon.

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Speaker 14: Stuart, we'll talk like that. I'm not running for the

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Speaker 14: mirror christ Church.

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Speaker 3: But you know, hey, well come back in just a

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Speaker 3: second because I want to get your views on America's cut,

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Speaker 3: the government deciding not to fund Stuart Nash, Morris Williamson

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Speaker 3: on the Huddle.

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Speaker 2: The Huddle with.

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Speaker 1: New Zealand Southeby's International Realty achieve extraordinary results with unparallel reach.

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Speaker 3: News talk CEB Stuart Nash, Formal Obor Minister Marris Williamson,

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Speaker 3: former National Minister, current Aalkan councilor on the Huddle tonight.

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Speaker 3: Are lots of texts coming in about the pedestrian crossings.

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Speaker 3: For goodness sakes, we've had flat pedestrian crossings for most

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Speaker 3: of my life. Why do we suddenly need them to

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Speaker 3: be raised or for them to be bumps in front

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Speaker 3: of them? Moved to the America's Cup now, guys, the

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Speaker 3: government has said no to that. Apparently seventy five million

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Speaker 3: dollars is what they were after for twenty twenty seven.

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Speaker 3: Stuart that you know, there's the argument, well, do you

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Speaker 3: invest now and you reap the rewards later? Do they

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Speaker 3: stack up?

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Speaker 14: Yeah, they kind of do.

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Speaker 27: Actually, And the reason I say that is I was

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Speaker 27: Minister for the America's Cup as part of my economic

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Speaker 27: development portfolio. In the last Cup, we offered Team MW

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Speaker 27: Zealand sixty million dollars in a sort of a post

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Speaker 27: COVID world, and there was a big debate around the

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Speaker 27: cabinet table.

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Speaker 14: There I go again in trouble.

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Speaker 27: But you know, there's about a billion dollars of economic

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Speaker 27: development that accruis to the city and the country out

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Speaker 27: of such a big event like this. It is tough times,

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Speaker 27: I absolutely get that. But part of the role of

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Speaker 27: a government is to promote sort of economic development, economic

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Speaker 27: growth in The America's Cup really is the pinnacle of innovation.

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Speaker 14: And I know it's a rich persons sport, but it's one.

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Speaker 27: Of those kind of iconic events that really does bring

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Speaker 27: in immense amount of wealth and people and crowds and

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Speaker 27: innovation in a way very few other events do. So

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Speaker 27: I probably would have worn the seventy five million dollars,

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Speaker 27: keeping in mind you don't have to stump up with

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Speaker 27: it immediately, and and just talked and talked about the benefits.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, the problem with your one was that we

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Speaker 3: made a lost in me it was like one hundred

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Speaker 3: and fifty six million.

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Speaker 14: Oh yeah, no, no, so the one that went to Barcelona.

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Speaker 27: Yeah, we made a loss in our one because that

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Speaker 27: was purely because of COVID because we couldn't get people

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Speaker 27: in the country.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, but the one when it.

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Speaker 27: When it went to Barcelona, before it had gone there,

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Speaker 27: we offered sixty million dollars and that.

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Speaker 3: You see what you're saying, and Team New Zealand said, no,

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Speaker 3: we're going to head off shore.

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Speaker 14: It was like, yeah, it was a shame because I

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Speaker 14: love it, but I love it. I love it because

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Speaker 14: of the economic development and the innovation of broad.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but I love it too, but I and I

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Speaker 3: do genuinely enjoy watching it. Went down and watched it

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Speaker 3: last time it was here. But then you look at

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Speaker 3: you know, how many roads we need affect how many hospitals?

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Speaker 3: I mean, look a Dunedin hospital, Morris, what's your take?

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Speaker 21: Yeah, look, I think the government's made the right decision.

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Speaker 21: While we're in the difficult economic situation we are, and

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Speaker 21: it is pretty dire out there. I think the low

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Speaker 21: level of priorities that stack up higher than this. But

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Speaker 21: there's one thing I want to raise. I raised it

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Speaker 21: with officials at Council when I got elected in twenty

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Speaker 21: twenty two. I just said to them, you guys put

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Speaker 21: a lot of money into the America's cup last time

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Speaker 21: it was here, and you funded Grant Dalton's syndicate and

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Speaker 21: so on, and the yeah yeah, I said, did any

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Speaker 21: of you ever think of putting a clause in the

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Speaker 21: contract that if you win, you'll have at least the

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Speaker 21: next two defenses held here in Auckland? And they said, oh,

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Speaker 21: he wouldn't have signed in that case. I say, oh,

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Speaker 21: so he didn't sign, that's up to him. We were

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Speaker 21: stupid and just giving them all the money, letting them

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Speaker 21: do that one it failed because of COVID. I get that,

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Speaker 21: But then he walked away to Barcelona. And my second

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Speaker 21: question is this, If it was so phenomenal for Barcelona,

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Speaker 21: and I keep reading it was fantastic for Barcelona, why

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Speaker 21: don't they want it back?

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Speaker 14: Well, maybe they do, I don't think He's no, they

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Speaker 14: don't know, they don't they they don't want them.

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Speaker 3: And why aren't there other cities lining up? You know,

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Speaker 3: it really did make the money. They say that that

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Speaker 3: it has one of the other cities lining up to

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Speaker 3: do it too, And that's what's my question. Yeah, I

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Speaker 3: can't understand that, but either Hey, the Ministry of Education

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Speaker 3: has released its list of recommended reading for secondary students.

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Speaker 3: Shakespeare is manned at treat with the one Shakespeare book

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Speaker 3: that must be read, and there's a nineteenth century text

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Speaker 3: that must be read as well. What did you guys

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Speaker 3: read or can you remember reading anything? Stuart at high school?

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Speaker 14: Yeah, look, I'm not against this.

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Speaker 27: Actually, you know, I read in the article let's said, oh,

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Speaker 27: there's some fantastic New Zealand authors out there, and there are,

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Speaker 27: and could the students be encouraged to read those? But

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Speaker 27: you know, Shakespeare is considered the greatest ever exposed to

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Speaker 27: the English language. What's wrong without with reading the guy

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Speaker 27: who is the sort of the pinnacle in terms of English?

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Speaker 27: And are we talking about in this year? We're talking

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Speaker 27: about young men and women who we want to succeed

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Speaker 27: in the world. Give them a whole range of different

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Speaker 27: texts and topics. So they're going to get joys. They're

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Speaker 27: going to get Shakespeare, but they're also going to get

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Speaker 27: some fantastic New Zealand authors.

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Speaker 14: I don't mind this at all of I'm brially honest

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Speaker 14: with you, mate.

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Speaker 3: Did you read any Shakespeare at school?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 13: I did.

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Speaker 21: I've got a slightly different view on it. I read

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Speaker 21: I was Hamlet and Macbeth, I think, and I literally

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Speaker 21: couldn't understand what some of it said. It's in such

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Speaker 21: old English. I'll give you my favorite quote, and you

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Speaker 21: tell me what this means. If it be now, tis

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Speaker 21: not to come. If it be not to come, it

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Speaker 21: will be now. And if it be not now yet,

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Speaker 21: it will come. The readiness is all well, abeout.

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Speaker 14: Your girlfriend, mate, that's about a girl when you got

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Speaker 14: there or not.

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Speaker 27: But but the thing is, but you know that when

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Speaker 27: you did was that when you repeat it the perform

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Speaker 27: for the second.

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Speaker 21: But the best five years of my life I spent

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Speaker 21: in the third form that's from Hamlet. And I used

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Speaker 21: to read this stuff and I kept saying, I don't

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Speaker 21: understand because I did maths and physics and chemistry and

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Speaker 21: did well on them. But I was always struggling. But look,

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Speaker 21: those who know English well, they believe it's vital to understand.

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Speaker 21: But it's so old fashioned.

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Speaker 3: And how it's Morris. What it does is make it

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Speaker 3: modern English sound easy, you know what I mean. In

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Speaker 3: that way, it's great for your confidence. I would have thought, okay, all.

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Speaker 21: Right, I'll go back and read some more and see

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Speaker 21: if I can understand it.

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Speaker 3: Now the Greens, Marris, you've got something you want to

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Speaker 3: get off your test about the Greens. We've we've got

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Speaker 3: two minutes to do this.

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Speaker 21: But well, look the tamotha Paul stuff about police and

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Speaker 21: people are scared to walk down the street, and a

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Speaker 21: whole lot of the other things that she's gone on

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Speaker 21: about that being put in jail for a twelve dollar fine,

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Speaker 21: which is absolutely wrong.

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Speaker 13: And now they've.

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Speaker 21: Sort of come out with the sort of defense of

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Speaker 21: some of the stuff the guy had on his website,

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Speaker 21: even though he took it down immediately, So there's got

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Speaker 21: to be something going on. And my comment was I

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Speaker 21: knew both Rod Donnell and Jeanette fitz Simons from the

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Speaker 21: then Green Party. They were absolutely truly environmental thists. They

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Speaker 21: we're really keen to do things that save the planet.

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Speaker 21: This lot aren't. And I thought one of the funniest

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Speaker 21: questions I've ever heard in Parliament asked was David Seymour

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Speaker 21: got up and asked John Key once when he's Prime Minister.

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Speaker 21: Straight after, James Short asked a question on is that

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Speaker 21: the first question he's ever had on the environment from

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Speaker 21: the Greens? And the whole place burst out laughing because

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Speaker 21: it was so what was a Green Party and well

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Speaker 21: respected for some of the things they stood for in

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Speaker 21: the environment and conservation. They're now just a bunch of

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Speaker 21: nutcases to.

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Speaker 27: The Alliance and drag Hey. The other thing I do

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Speaker 27: want to say is this guy Ben Doyle. You know,

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Speaker 27: I heard someone on the HOSK this morning saying, oh,

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Speaker 27: you know this is bad because we want good, diverse.

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Speaker 14: People in Parliament, we absolutely do. This guy is not good.

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Speaker 14: Get rid of him.

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Speaker 27: Standards have dropped considerably since Marris and I were there.

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Speaker 27: I think the Greens are the laughing stock. I can't

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Speaker 27: believe they're polling of the way they are.

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Speaker 3: Stuart Nash, Morris Williamson on the Huddle News Talks VB.

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Speaker 1: It's the Heather Duper c Allen Drive Full Show podcast

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Speaker 1: on my Heart Radio powered by News Talks EBB.

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Speaker 3: News Talks VB. It is coming up to six o'clock.

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Speaker 3: Great to have your company this evening. After six, we're

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Speaker 3: going to talk to the EMA, the Employees Manufacturers Association

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Speaker 3: on health and safety. They've been well. The two announcements

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Speaker 3: in the government on the actually this week, lots of text.

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Speaker 3: We'll get to those after as well. In Australia also

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Speaker 3: we'll talk about the ABA decision in Australia. But in

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Speaker 3: Australia they are quite exercised, quite worked up about this

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Speaker 3: Chinese research vessel that is in Australia. Well it's not

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Speaker 3: even in Australian waters, it's just off the coast of Australia,

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Speaker 3: but in international waters. They are really worked up about it,

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Speaker 3: to the point where their defense force, their Navy is

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Speaker 3: monitoring this vessel. The kicker is it's the reason it's

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Speaker 3: there is because it's just been visiting New Zealand. Not

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Speaker 3: only have we been sharing quarters with this Chinese vessel,

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Speaker 3: but it's been parked at our port and Wellington. So

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Speaker 3: what's going on? Then we'll look at that after six

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Speaker 3: to two.

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Speaker 2: Hell quads.

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Speaker 1: What's down one with a major cause and how will

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Speaker 1: it affect the economy? The big business questions on the

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Speaker 1: Business Hour with Ryan Bridge, hands players, insurance and investments,

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Speaker 1: Grow your wealth to protect your future, news talks, be good.

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Speaker 3: Evening, Nice to have your company. Brad Olsen on the

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Speaker 3: America's Cup decision and numbers. Did they add up? We'll

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Speaker 3: ask them shortly. Jamie McKay on the Country, Paul Bloxham

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Speaker 3: from HSBC on the RBA decision, and Indebrady in the

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Speaker 3: UK before top of the Hour as well. More movement

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Speaker 3: from the government on the health and safety sector. Yes

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Speaker 3: it is a sector and yes that is a problem.

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Speaker 3: This time they are reassuring landowners that they will no

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Speaker 3: longer be responsible for recreational activities that they permit on

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Speaker 3: their land. This all comes after Forcati White Island. You

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Speaker 3: remember the court decision which the find the landowners alongside

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Speaker 3: the operators. Paul Javis, the EMA Workplace Safety manager with

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Speaker 3: us Hi Paul, Hi, Hell you good, thank you, Good

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Speaker 3: to have you on the show. Just starting with the landowners,

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Speaker 3: did the FAKARTI decision? Was that quite a major for

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Speaker 3: scaring people off?

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Speaker 28: I think I was because there were so many companies

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Speaker 28: that were prosecuted from the from the start said we

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Speaker 28: will plead the guilty right up front and said we're

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Speaker 28: taken away. But it was really the the decision by

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Speaker 28: the three brothers to appeal there the their conviction that

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Speaker 28: then the High Court then said, well it's it's while

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Speaker 28: they owned the land, they didn't actually work there. So

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Speaker 28: it's all about was work taking place there that the

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Speaker 28: three owners were undertaking and in that case it was none.

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Speaker 3: And but despite that, what effect did it have on

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Speaker 3: you know, on on land both recreational but also for

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Speaker 3: businesses around the country.

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Speaker 28: Yeah, well, I think because it's it's a high court

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Speaker 28: decision that that sets the precedents. I mean what's been

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Speaker 28: announced today kind of says the same thing that where

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Speaker 28: a far for example, let someone onto the land to

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Speaker 28: do some activities recreational, go fishing, drive the cod bikes, whatever,

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Speaker 28: then the farmer of themselves won't have any liability because

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Speaker 28: they aren't working on the area or where the quad

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Speaker 28: bikes are being driven. So it really comes back to

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Speaker 28: that notion. Who creates the risk in the case of

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Speaker 28: a quad bike is the person who's driving the quad bike.

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Speaker 28: The only parallel part to it is if the farmer

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Speaker 28: was working alongside where the quadlike was working, then the

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Speaker 28: farmer would have some duty them to inform the quad

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Speaker 28: bike people. I'm going to be cutting some grass down here.

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Speaker 28: There could be some flying stones, give me to be careful.

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Speaker 28: So just clarifies those kind of boundaries, whereas in the

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Speaker 28: current situation there are no boundaries. And what we've seen

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Speaker 28: in the marketplace is that farmers, just as an example

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Speaker 28: and others, we're taking a very risk averse approach in

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Speaker 28: that no one was allowed on the property, No clubs

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Speaker 28: were allowed on the properties because no one knew where

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Speaker 28: the boundaries were.

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Speaker 3: Do you expect this all? I mean, how much of

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Speaker 3: a cost was this to business? And will this you

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Speaker 3: know where we see a boost to growth from it?

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Speaker 2: Look?

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Speaker 28: I think so, because because the more we can get

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Speaker 28: back onto the land and clubs can do their activities

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Speaker 28: and people can go and do their recreational things. That's

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Speaker 28: going to free up and also let the farmers be

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Speaker 28: far more comfortable that where they aren't working on that

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Speaker 28: particular day when the activities taking place, they have no responsibilities,

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Speaker 28: whereas under the previous kind of or undercurrent regime they

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Speaker 28: might have been caught into question. So what this change

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Speaker 28: will mean is that they will be able to carry

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Speaker 28: on doing their farming. The recreational people can do what

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Speaker 28: they need to do and it would be very clear

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Speaker 28: and both parties can can live quite quite comfortably knowing

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Speaker 28: that they're doing there.

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Speaker 3: But individually, Paul, somebody's just texted, Ryan, do I smell

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Speaker 3: common sense? Is that about summon up?

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Speaker 28: Well, we don't use common sense and health and safety

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Speaker 28: because the problem is too common under no sense in it.

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Speaker 28: But I understand, but I understand this the sentiment of it.

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Speaker 28: It is about about who's got the ability to control places,

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Speaker 28: who actually creates the risk.

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Speaker 3: Paul, appreciate your time. Paul jarv Em, a Workplace Actor manager.

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Speaker 3: On the Governments announcement, it is eleven halfter six. So

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Speaker 3: to this ship that the Australians are monitoring, the Australian

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Speaker 3: Defense Force is monitoring a Chinese research ship off the

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Speaker 3: coast of South Australia. They're not happy with that. The

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Speaker 3: Australian media is going to town calling it a spy ship.

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Speaker 3: Sky News reporting it's suspected of collecting intelligence.

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Speaker 21: I prefer that it wasn't there. But we're live in

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Speaker 21: circumstances where just as Australia has vessels in South China

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Speaker 21: Sea and vessels in the Taiwan Strait.

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Speaker 3: They're worried it could be well, they're worried about actually

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Speaker 3: what it could be doing anywhere. It could be mapping

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Speaker 3: the ocean floor, it could be mapping our submarine cables,

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Speaker 3: which are critical for our lines of communication as a country.

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Speaker 3: So why would we care about a Chinese research vessel

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Speaker 3: off the coast of Australia. Here's the rub.

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Speaker 15: For months, this advanced Chinese vessel, known as Explorer one,

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Speaker 15: has been trawling the seabed off New Zealand South Island.

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Speaker 3: Yes you heard that correctly. For the last two months

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Speaker 3: it's been on a research mission around Fjordland and other

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Speaker 3: areas of New Zealand. It's been docked and Wellington, our

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Speaker 3: nation's capital. So I just have a couple of questions

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Speaker 3: about this. Why are our armed forces not talking to

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Speaker 3: one another? If the Australian Armed Forces at Defense Force

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Speaker 3: is so worried about this that they're closely monitoring a

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Speaker 3: Chinese vessel, would no one has bothered to tell us,

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Speaker 3: hey that they look, that's a dodgy vessel. You want

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Speaker 3: to watch that? Do we not talk to one another?

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Speaker 3: That is what I want to know? And what's it

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Speaker 3: been doing while it's here? Have we really just been

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Speaker 3: looking at I don't know, seismic Have we we've been

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Speaker 3: looking at tectonic plates? Or have we been looking at

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Speaker 3: cables because there's a difference, or as all of this

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Speaker 3: just nonsense. The ship is completely harmless and Canberra is

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Speaker 3: overreacting because they're coming close to an election. Those are

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Speaker 3: the questions I have. We've been asking some questions today

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Speaker 3: and we'll get to those shortly. Next Brad Olsen on

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Speaker 3: the America's Cup.

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Speaker 1: It's the Heather Duper c Allen Drive Full Show podcast

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Speaker 3: We'll get to the Chinese ships and to Jamie mackay shortly.

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Speaker 3: Right now, Hospitality in z and Chris Hipkins of the

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Speaker 3: Labor Party seem to be the only people in the

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Speaker 3: country tonight who have said that the America's Cup it's

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Speaker 3: a bad thing that we're not funding this to the

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Speaker 3: turn of seventy five million dollars hospitalities. Steve Armatage spoke

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Speaker 3: to me earlier.

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Speaker 22: I don't think it's reasonable to say that this is

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Speaker 22: money that just goes into a black hole. Actually, the

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Speaker 22: event can help the Bolster government coffers through GST revenue

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Speaker 22: from the teams being here and established over a period

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Speaker 22: of time, investment and technology both building componentry, even before

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Speaker 22: you get to the visitation. So in my view, this

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Speaker 22: is one of those instances where you're actually making an

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Speaker 22: investment to unlock the greater return over time, if.

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Speaker 3: You believe it. Barcelona earned two billion dollars. Apparently that

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Speaker 3: was the net benefit to Barcelona. But then why aren't

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Speaker 3: there other countries lining up, other port cities lining up

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Speaker 3: to take the America's Cup. Brad Olsen is the Informetric

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Speaker 3: chief economist. He's with us tonight. Hey Brad good Evening,

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Speaker 3: what's your take.

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Speaker 29: I completely back the government's decision not to commit seventy

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Speaker 29: five million dollars to this. I understand that some people,

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Speaker 29: you know, think that it will bring in an economic

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Speaker 29: benefit in similar but let's be real, when the fiscals

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Speaker 29: are in the position they are, when New Zealand is

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Speaker 29: running deficits out until potentially twenty thirty, all those small

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Speaker 29: bits matter, and I think you know, we would have

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Speaker 29: had to be quite upfront that government spending on something

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Speaker 29: like this would be reckless. I mean, you look at

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Speaker 29: the last time New Zealand hosted the America's Cup. The

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Speaker 29: analysis then showed that we made one hundred and fifty

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Speaker 29: six million dollar loss. Why would we do that again

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Speaker 29: knowing that we made.

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Speaker 3: A loss last time? But that was they argued COVID,

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Speaker 3: so no one could come, I'm sure.

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Speaker 29: But at the same time, I mean, if the one

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Speaker 29: bit of analysis that you have that shows that it's

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Speaker 29: a challenging time that you can't get it through, that's

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Speaker 29: one part. You couple that with the fact that again

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Speaker 29: we just don't have extra money to be spending on

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Speaker 29: what is a private event. By all means, try and

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Speaker 29: bring it to New Zealand. But if people think it's

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Speaker 29: that good of an investment, it's going to bring that

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Speaker 29: much money, they should stump up their own cash. The

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Speaker 29: private sector should be putting it forward themselves, but the

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Speaker 29: government cannot should not be funding everything. We just don't

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Speaker 29: have the resource.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and there are benefits. I mean I was saying earlier,

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Speaker 3: look at the surgeries they've been able to fund with

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Speaker 3: the potentially saved money from the America's Cup. There are benefits,

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Speaker 3: presumably cost benefit and lyses analyzes. You could show up

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Speaker 3: the WAZU that would show that's actually good for the

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Speaker 3: economy too.

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Speaker 29: Indeed, and this is all what comes down to what

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01:16:22,320 --> 01:16:24,720
Speaker 29: economists refer to as an opportunity cost. Like it's not

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01:16:24,800 --> 01:16:26,960
Speaker 29: like that seventy five million dollars is not going to

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01:16:26,960 --> 01:16:29,120
Speaker 29: be spent at all, It's going to be spent on

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01:16:29,160 --> 01:16:31,120
Speaker 29: something different. And so part of that is weighing up

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01:16:31,160 --> 01:16:33,360
Speaker 29: where do you get most bang for buck? And I

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01:16:33,400 --> 01:16:36,080
Speaker 29: think that rightfully the government has gone through their finances,

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01:16:36,080 --> 01:16:38,920
Speaker 29: gone through all of the different asks because everyone's always

1516
01:16:38,960 --> 01:16:41,479
Speaker 29: going to the beehive and asking for more money, and said,

1517
01:16:41,479 --> 01:16:44,000
Speaker 29: look at the moment, we've got to prioritize and a

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01:16:44,400 --> 01:16:46,439
Speaker 29: yacht race is not currently near the top of the

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01:16:46,920 --> 01:16:47,639
Speaker 29: request list.

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Speaker 3: Brad Olson Informetrics, Chief Economists. Great to have your views,

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01:16:50,840 --> 01:16:54,160
Speaker 3: nineteen after six. So coming back to the Chinese ships

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01:16:54,280 --> 01:16:57,559
Speaker 3: is the research vessel? Did you know that they also

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01:16:57,720 --> 01:17:00,880
Speaker 3: had kneeware scientists on board for the two months. This

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01:17:01,000 --> 01:17:02,640
Speaker 3: is the one that the Australians have said it as

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01:17:02,640 --> 01:17:06,080
Speaker 3: apparently been monitored by the defense force there. They're so

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01:17:06,160 --> 01:17:07,960
Speaker 3: worried about the fact it might be spying on them.

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01:17:08,640 --> 01:17:12,080
Speaker 3: So NIWA was on board this Chinese vessel. We asked

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Speaker 3: Newa for a statement, and we asked Judith Collins as

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01:17:14,040 --> 01:17:16,040
Speaker 3: Defense Minister for a statement. I'll read both of them

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01:17:16,040 --> 01:17:18,160
Speaker 3: to one bits of them to you. You never read

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01:17:18,160 --> 01:17:22,400
Speaker 3: a full statement, pages long, boring, irrelevant information, try and

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01:17:22,439 --> 01:17:27,639
Speaker 3: bury their lead anyway. Niwa says the Chinese vessel has

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01:17:27,840 --> 01:17:31,479
Speaker 3: important research that it was doing. No different to any

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01:17:31,520 --> 01:17:34,719
Speaker 3: research trip from another country coming here, apparently, so nothing

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01:17:34,720 --> 01:17:38,200
Speaker 3: to see here. Apparently the process for allowing a Chinese

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01:17:38,320 --> 01:17:41,479
Speaker 3: vessel to operate in our eez no different from any

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01:17:41,479 --> 01:17:44,800
Speaker 3: other nation. We asked NEA about whether there were any

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01:17:44,840 --> 01:17:48,840
Speaker 3: concerns about other from other countries. I should say or

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01:17:48,920 --> 01:17:51,760
Speaker 3: from the New Zealand government about the ship coming here.

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01:17:52,040 --> 01:17:55,640
Speaker 3: Niwa said no, so we weren't told. But why the

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01:17:55,680 --> 01:17:58,400
Speaker 3: Australian Defense Force monitoring it and worried about it and

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01:17:58,400 --> 01:18:03,120
Speaker 3: not telling us with Collins sent us this statement, I

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01:18:03,240 --> 01:18:06,640
Speaker 3: understand it was working with kneewhere, it was following the

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01:18:06,720 --> 01:18:12,400
Speaker 3: rules and we're not aware of any deviants from the rules. Hmm.

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01:18:13,960 --> 01:18:16,519
Speaker 3: Something smells a bit fishy hair, doesn't it. I mean,

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01:18:16,560 --> 01:18:19,479
Speaker 3: either the Australians are blowing up over nothing, which wouldn't

1547
01:18:19,520 --> 01:18:23,360
Speaker 3: be far you know. I mean that's not impossible, or

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01:18:23,400 --> 01:18:26,160
Speaker 3: we're just far too lax. Twenty up to six will

1549
01:18:26,200 --> 01:18:28,800
Speaker 3: go to Jamie McKay on The Country next.

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Speaker 1: The Rural Report with MSD Animal Health, home of world

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01:18:33,000 --> 01:18:34,280
Speaker 1: leading animal identification.

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01:18:34,800 --> 01:18:37,240
Speaker 3: Jamie mckaye, host of the Country with Me tonight, Jamie,

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01:18:37,240 --> 01:18:38,000
Speaker 3: good evening.

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01:18:38,800 --> 01:18:40,320
Speaker 30: Good day, Ryan, how are good?

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01:18:40,320 --> 01:18:43,880
Speaker 3: Thank you? We've got another global dairy trade option overnight tonight.

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01:18:43,920 --> 01:18:44,840
Speaker 3: What are we expecting?

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Speaker 31: Well, let's sa it's on the eve of Liberation Day,

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01:18:49,160 --> 01:18:52,120
Speaker 31: so maybe we're lucky, Ryan, We're getting this out of

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01:18:52,160 --> 01:18:56,360
Speaker 31: the road before Trump slams his tariffs upon us. Look

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01:18:56,400 --> 01:18:59,360
Speaker 31: my guy at Jordon Mike McIntyre, my go to guy

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01:18:59,439 --> 01:19:03,120
Speaker 31: you should use, and he's very good, is picking essentially

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01:19:03,240 --> 01:19:05,640
Speaker 31: flat to maybe a lift of one percent, which I

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01:19:05,680 --> 01:19:09,080
Speaker 31: think is a great result, and that would surely go

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01:19:09,240 --> 01:19:12,360
Speaker 31: close to locking in that ten dollars milk price for

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01:19:12,479 --> 01:19:16,000
Speaker 31: this current season twenty four to twenty five. Incidentally, the

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01:19:16,040 --> 01:19:19,080
Speaker 31: futures market's currently sitting at ten dollars ten for this

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01:19:19,160 --> 01:19:22,920
Speaker 31: season nine dollars sixty five for next season, were being

1568
01:19:22,960 --> 01:19:28,000
Speaker 31: helped by a sub fifty seven cent US exchange rate.

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01:19:28,720 --> 01:19:32,200
Speaker 31: And also, and all this is happening, should I say,

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01:19:32,720 --> 01:19:36,520
Speaker 31: despite a North Island drought which is putting pressure on supplies,

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01:19:37,000 --> 01:19:40,360
Speaker 31: and not that much involvement slash domination as it was

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Speaker 31: in the past from the Chinese. So when we look

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Speaker 31: at the dairy industry, Ryan, I say, happy dairy days.

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Speaker 3: What about Ikea? There's been some discussion about Ikea and

1575
01:19:52,840 --> 01:19:56,040
Speaker 3: the meat balls and exactly what the meat balls made from.

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Speaker 31: Well, I thought this was an April Fool's joke when

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01:19:59,040 --> 01:20:02,280
Speaker 31: I read it. I read it last night, but I

1578
01:20:02,320 --> 01:20:06,280
Speaker 31: actioned my thoughts upon it this morning. So Ikea, this

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01:20:06,400 --> 01:20:09,800
Speaker 31: is the Swedish furniture giant, as they announced they were

1580
01:20:09,800 --> 01:20:12,960
Speaker 31: coming here and way back in twenty eighteen, and apparently

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01:20:13,120 --> 01:20:16,720
Speaker 31: they're nearly here and they're not going to use in

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01:20:16,760 --> 01:20:20,559
Speaker 31: their new restaurant, their new Swedish restaurant and grab and

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01:20:20,600 --> 01:20:24,439
Speaker 31: Goho style bistro in the new Sylvia Park store. They've

1584
01:20:24,479 --> 01:20:28,479
Speaker 31: got meatballs and apparently their meatballs Ryan are iconic. But

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01:20:28,520 --> 01:20:32,200
Speaker 31: here's the kicker. They're not using New Zealand beef. And

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01:20:32,240 --> 01:20:35,000
Speaker 31: you'll say, oh, well, so what this is the company

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01:20:35,280 --> 01:20:39,040
Speaker 31: Ikea I'm talking about that's running around our country at

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01:20:39,040 --> 01:20:41,280
Speaker 31: the moment doing it's best to gobble up some of

1589
01:20:41,320 --> 01:20:45,600
Speaker 31: our best beef and sheep farms to convert for forestry.

1590
01:20:46,160 --> 01:20:49,000
Speaker 31: They say production forestry, but let's be honest about it.

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01:20:49,280 --> 01:20:52,640
Speaker 31: One of the big attractions is the carbon offsets, so

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01:20:52,760 --> 01:20:56,040
Speaker 31: you know, talking about adding insult to injury, rubbing salt

1593
01:20:56,040 --> 01:20:59,519
Speaker 31: into the wound. I think, even if only token reasons,

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01:20:59,560 --> 01:21:02,439
Speaker 31: they should be using New Zealand beef. When asked about

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01:21:02,479 --> 01:21:05,759
Speaker 31: why they weren't using New Zealand beef Ryan, they said

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01:21:06,200 --> 01:21:10,280
Speaker 31: their decision decision to source from an existing supplier in

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01:21:10,320 --> 01:21:15,400
Speaker 31: Australia was based on efficiency and affordability, So that beef

1598
01:21:15,439 --> 01:21:19,080
Speaker 31: has to cross the Tasman think of the carbon footprint and.

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Speaker 3: What about taste. You haven't been mentioned that, Jamie, Thank

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01:21:22,120 --> 01:21:24,680
Speaker 3: you very much, appreciate your time. Jamie mckaye hosted the

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Speaker 3: Country here on News Talk ZIRB. It is twenty six

1602
01:21:27,160 --> 01:21:31,400
Speaker 3: minutes after six. You know, when Karmala Harris was select well,

1603
01:21:31,479 --> 01:21:34,400
Speaker 3: how did you say she wasn't elected the leader of

1604
01:21:34,520 --> 01:21:38,120
Speaker 3: the Democratic Party, remember, because there wasn't an election process,

1605
01:21:38,160 --> 01:21:41,400
Speaker 3: They just said anointed. When she was anointed the leader

1606
01:21:41,400 --> 01:21:44,280
Speaker 3: of the Democrats, she took a call from the Obamas

1607
01:21:45,200 --> 01:21:49,000
Speaker 3: and they released a video on social media of Karmala

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01:21:49,040 --> 01:21:52,320
Speaker 3: Harris accepting a call from the Obamas congratulating her on

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01:21:52,400 --> 01:21:55,120
Speaker 3: becoming the leader, because obviously they needed to show to

1610
01:21:55,200 --> 01:21:58,240
Speaker 3: portray that the party was rallying around her because there

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01:21:58,280 --> 01:22:02,760
Speaker 3: was no process right out that the video that they

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01:22:02,800 --> 01:22:04,840
Speaker 3: released of her taking the phone call, so it's just

1613
01:22:04,960 --> 01:22:08,240
Speaker 3: Carmena Harris standing on a lawn outside her house with

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01:22:08,360 --> 01:22:11,679
Speaker 3: the phone to her ear was faked. So she took

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01:22:11,720 --> 01:22:15,160
Speaker 3: the call separately and they went, oh, actually, who we

1616
01:22:15,200 --> 01:22:17,800
Speaker 3: should have got that on film, So they then she

1617
01:22:17,960 --> 01:22:21,320
Speaker 3: just stands there talking to herself in the phone. Now

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01:22:21,360 --> 01:22:23,840
Speaker 3: the problem, now that this has been revealed and I

1619
01:22:23,920 --> 01:22:27,040
Speaker 3: dare say it's been revealed by Fox. But the problem

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01:22:27,040 --> 01:22:29,679
Speaker 3: now that it's been revealed is that the video lives

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01:22:29,680 --> 01:22:33,160
Speaker 3: in posterity forever. So everyone's replaying the video and going,

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01:22:33,360 --> 01:22:36,400
Speaker 3: oh yeah, look it looks like she's she's acting, you know.

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01:22:37,360 --> 01:22:39,840
Speaker 3: So just a tip for politicians, if you're going to

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01:22:39,960 --> 01:22:42,120
Speaker 3: do something and put it on social media, just make

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01:22:42,160 --> 01:22:45,599
Speaker 3: sure it's real. Make sure it happened. Twenty seven after

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01:22:45,640 --> 01:22:48,439
Speaker 3: six News Talk ce B, we'll get to HSBC's Paul

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01:22:48,439 --> 01:23:12,320
Speaker 3: Bloxham next.

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Speaker 2: If it's to do with money, it matters to you.

1629
01:23:15,920 --> 01:23:20,720
Speaker 1: The Business Hour with Ryan Bridge and there's insurance and investments,

1630
01:23:21,040 --> 01:23:22,920
Speaker 1: grow your wealth, protect your future.

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01:23:23,240 --> 01:23:24,160
Speaker 2: News talks that'd be.

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Speaker 13: Just my bo Songle and Martin my Boo Songle Brown Ratin, you're.

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01:23:33,080 --> 01:23:36,680
Speaker 3: Just like my bo Twenty five away from seven Your

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01:23:36,760 --> 01:23:38,479
Speaker 3: News Talks B, we'll get to end the Brady in

1635
01:23:38,520 --> 01:23:41,519
Speaker 3: the UK before seven o'clock and Paul blockam standing by.

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01:23:41,520 --> 01:23:44,559
Speaker 3: Out of Australia, the Reserve Bank has held official cast

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01:23:44,600 --> 01:23:46,639
Speaker 3: right held the official cash right there at four point

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01:23:46,640 --> 01:23:51,320
Speaker 3: one zero. Now arn Z read research have a polar

1639
01:23:51,439 --> 01:23:53,400
Speaker 3: as you know, the political poll. I won't go into

1640
01:23:53,400 --> 01:23:56,600
Speaker 3: that because it was basically confirming what we already know,

1641
01:23:58,160 --> 01:24:01,559
Speaker 3: but well what we what their current situation is. But

1642
01:24:01,680 --> 01:24:04,880
Speaker 3: they also asked a question about school lunches. And I

1643
01:24:04,920 --> 01:24:07,080
Speaker 3: know we don't like talking about school lunches, but I

1644
01:24:07,120 --> 01:24:11,000
Speaker 3: think this is worth mentioning. So a couple of interesting things.

1645
01:24:11,200 --> 01:24:14,000
Speaker 3: So this is the iarentid's new poll that they've taken

1646
01:24:14,040 --> 01:24:18,240
Speaker 3: over from Newshub. Sixty one point five percent of voters

1647
01:24:18,280 --> 01:24:22,639
Speaker 3: believe parents are responsible for school lunches. The results were

1648
01:24:22,640 --> 01:24:25,920
Speaker 3: gathered from March twenty first to March twenty seventh, so

1649
01:24:26,120 --> 01:24:28,360
Speaker 3: just in the last week or so. And I'll get

1650
01:24:28,360 --> 01:24:32,240
Speaker 3: to the question here. So voters were asked, and it's

1651
01:24:32,280 --> 01:24:34,280
Speaker 3: sort of a dumb question, but voters were asked who

1652
01:24:34,320 --> 01:24:38,040
Speaker 3: they thought would be should be most responsible for providing

1653
01:24:38,080 --> 01:24:40,680
Speaker 3: school lunches. Why you wouldn't just say responsible, Well, I

1654
01:24:40,720 --> 01:24:44,360
Speaker 3: don't know, but anyway, most responsible was the phrasing. Of

1655
01:24:44,400 --> 01:24:47,839
Speaker 3: the one thousand people polled, sixty one point five percent

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01:24:48,000 --> 01:24:52,320
Speaker 3: said parents, thirty two point four percent said the government

1657
01:24:52,479 --> 01:24:55,960
Speaker 3: via a school lunch program, two point five percent said other,

1658
01:24:56,080 --> 01:24:58,360
Speaker 3: and three point six percent said they did not know.

1659
01:24:59,120 --> 01:25:03,080
Speaker 3: Support for parents was strongest amongst National enact voters. No surprise.

1660
01:25:03,120 --> 01:25:05,559
Speaker 3: They're followed by New Zealand first and then Labor Green

1661
01:25:05,640 --> 01:25:08,040
Speaker 3: to Party Malori supporters. You guessed it. They are more

1662
01:25:08,160 --> 01:25:11,920
Speaker 3: likely to say government. Here's an interesting tidbit. Those on

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01:25:12,000 --> 01:25:17,200
Speaker 3: the lowest incomes were more likely to name parents as

1664
01:25:17,280 --> 01:25:21,479
Speaker 3: being most responsible, while those with the highest incomes were

1665
01:25:21,479 --> 01:25:26,519
Speaker 3: more likely to name the government. Isn't that interesting? Twenty

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01:25:26,520 --> 01:25:30,640
Speaker 3: three to seven, Ryan, Let's go to Australia. The Australian

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01:25:30,680 --> 01:25:32,760
Speaker 3: Reserve Bank has held their official cash rate at four

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01:25:32,800 --> 01:25:36,400
Speaker 3: point one. This is this afternoon. Interest rates had started

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01:25:36,400 --> 01:25:38,960
Speaker 3: to come down in February, but the bank today decided

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01:25:39,000 --> 01:25:41,200
Speaker 3: to hold off on going any further. Paul Blocks from

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01:25:41,280 --> 01:25:45,280
Speaker 3: HSBC's two economists with me Hi Paul, good evening. Good

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01:25:45,320 --> 01:25:46,760
Speaker 3: to have you on the show. So why is the

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01:25:46,760 --> 01:25:47,519
Speaker 3: bank paused?

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01:25:49,360 --> 01:25:51,960
Speaker 6: Well, we kin't of thought they would for a start,

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01:25:52,040 --> 01:25:53,720
Speaker 6: we had in mind that the market sot that they

1676
01:25:53,760 --> 01:25:56,840
Speaker 6: wouldn't be doing anything today. They've given guidance back in

1677
01:25:56,840 --> 01:25:59,200
Speaker 6: February that you know, although they could get over the

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01:25:59,200 --> 01:26:01,519
Speaker 6: lines of delivering interest rate cup that we saw back

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01:26:01,520 --> 01:26:04,080
Speaker 6: then on the eighteenth of February, they weren't likely to

1680
01:26:04,120 --> 01:26:07,280
Speaker 6: deliver back to back cuts that the economy wasn't disinflating

1681
01:26:07,400 --> 01:26:10,960
Speaker 6: quite quickly enough, And since then the domestic data at

1682
01:26:11,040 --> 01:26:13,639
Speaker 6: least have come in line with what they had been expecting.

1683
01:26:13,720 --> 01:26:16,640
Speaker 6: Growth is on a modest upswing, the labor market is

1684
01:26:16,640 --> 01:26:20,120
Speaker 6: still quite tight, with the unemployment rate sideways, and inflation's

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01:26:20,240 --> 01:26:23,960
Speaker 6: gradually easy. So they said today, you know, inflation's coming down,

1686
01:26:24,000 --> 01:26:27,040
Speaker 6: and that's a good thing. But they weren't quite convinced

1687
01:26:27,880 --> 01:26:29,760
Speaker 6: yet to be able enough that it was going to

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01:26:29,800 --> 01:26:31,760
Speaker 6: get back to target for them to be able to

1689
01:26:31,760 --> 01:26:32,759
Speaker 6: deliver another cup today.

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Speaker 3: Hell of a time to be making a big call

1691
01:26:34,760 --> 01:26:37,880
Speaker 3: like that, the day before Trump's Liberation Day. Where will

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01:26:37,880 --> 01:26:40,479
Speaker 3: find out about the tariffs? Do you think that played

1693
01:26:40,479 --> 01:26:43,040
Speaker 3: into it at all? I mean, you know, not wanting

1694
01:26:43,080 --> 01:26:45,400
Speaker 3: to pre empt a potential tariff war and what that

1695
01:26:45,479 --> 01:26:48,519
Speaker 3: might mean for a recession or dare I say inflation.

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Speaker 6: So I think today's decision was largely grounded on what

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01:26:52,479 --> 01:26:55,559
Speaker 6: was happening domestically and how the domestic story is traveling.

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Speaker 6: But I think in this statement that we got from

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01:26:58,160 --> 01:27:00,960
Speaker 6: the RBA today, it's very clear. It's a short statement,

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01:27:01,120 --> 01:27:03,880
Speaker 6: it had a lot of information about the fact that

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01:27:03,920 --> 01:27:06,559
Speaker 6: they were very uncertain about the global picture and what

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01:27:06,720 --> 01:27:09,040
Speaker 6: that might mean. So it certainly was something that the

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01:27:09,160 --> 01:27:11,640
Speaker 6: rpable to would be watching very carefully and they'd be

1704
01:27:11,640 --> 01:27:14,800
Speaker 6: thinking about all. They relayed that, you know, their own

1705
01:27:14,920 --> 01:27:17,080
Speaker 6: take is that this was going to be downside risk

1706
01:27:17,160 --> 01:27:20,840
Speaker 6: to global activity, so downside risk to global growth. But

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01:27:20,880 --> 01:27:22,880
Speaker 6: they were quite clear in their statement as well, saying

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01:27:22,920 --> 01:27:25,599
Speaker 6: that they weren't sure what it might mean for inflation,

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01:27:25,720 --> 01:27:28,479
Speaker 6: whether it was upside or downside for inflation. So they're

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01:27:28,520 --> 01:27:30,400
Speaker 6: watching very carefully like the rest of US, in terms

1711
01:27:30,439 --> 01:27:33,120
Speaker 6: of these global developments. They're very relevant and they may

1712
01:27:33,200 --> 01:27:35,760
Speaker 6: drive a Munkey policy in one direction or another, but

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01:27:35,800 --> 01:27:38,760
Speaker 6: they're also pretty clear today that they don't really know

1714
01:27:38,920 --> 01:27:42,439
Speaker 6: until they've seen more information exactly which way inflation is

1715
01:27:42,560 --> 01:27:45,240
Speaker 6: likely to drive inflation. That's the view that they portrayed today.

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01:27:45,479 --> 01:27:48,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, the other problem of courses that could go both ways.

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01:27:48,000 --> 01:27:50,680
Speaker 3: We could have a recession and and we could have stagflation.

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Speaker 6: Well, certainly that's a risk and we need to watch

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Speaker 6: it very carefully. I think it's a risk probably more

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Speaker 6: for the US economy that we need to there. But

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Speaker 6: I think you know, if you think about what tends

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Speaker 6: to happen when there's a global downturn, it tends to

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Speaker 6: be disinflationary, and I think I think that's the main

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Speaker 6: way we're thinking about it at least, is that the

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Speaker 6: direction of risk is more likely that if it goes

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Speaker 6: poorly and the global economy slows down more, it's more

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Speaker 6: likely to be downside risk for inflation in Australia and

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Speaker 6: New Zealand. Actually that's the way we would think about

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Speaker 6: it for New Zealand as well, in part because there'll

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Speaker 6: be a lot of manufactured goods that might not be

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Speaker 6: going to the markets that they previously would have out

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Speaker 6: of China and Asia and so on, and they'll be

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Speaker 6: looking to put those sell those manufactured goods into another market.

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Speaker 6: And our countries are large importers of manufactured goods, so

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Speaker 6: we may very well see, you know, there's a risk,

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Speaker 6: we think at least of more disinflation rather than the

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Speaker 6: other way.

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Speaker 3: Rount Michelle Bullock, the Governor, indicated last time we spoke

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Speaker 3: there would be two cuts this year. Did did they

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Speaker 3: give any ford given all that uncertain did they give

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Speaker 3: any forward forecast?

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Speaker 6: So the RBA doesn't actually take a view on what

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01:29:01,240 --> 01:29:03,800
Speaker 6: they are going to do with monetary policy. The last

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01:29:03,800 --> 01:29:05,960
Speaker 6: time around, what they did was they always have a

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01:29:06,000 --> 01:29:09,640
Speaker 6: working assumption in their set of forecasts about what the

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Speaker 6: market is currently pricing at that point in time, and

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Speaker 6: that's what you're relying that. That's what they did last time.

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Speaker 6: But this time around they didn't publish any forecasts because

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Speaker 6: this is a meeting that's sort of in between the

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Speaker 6: two that has so there was no explicit guidance. I

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01:29:23,200 --> 01:29:26,479
Speaker 6: think actually, if anything, they were pretty light on in

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01:29:26,560 --> 01:29:29,120
Speaker 6: terms of the guidance. And a part of that reflects,

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01:29:29,160 --> 01:29:31,360
Speaker 6: of course, this global risk that we're talking about that

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01:29:31,439 --> 01:29:33,960
Speaker 6: actually it's difficult to know which way things are going

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01:29:34,040 --> 01:29:37,160
Speaker 6: to go on the inflation outlook, and so they really

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Speaker 6: didn't provide very much that much a forward guide.

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Speaker 3: All right, Paul, interesting stuff, Thanks for your analysis. Paul

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Speaker 3: Blocks and HSB ceed chief economist out of Sydney. It

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01:29:45,160 --> 01:29:48,400
Speaker 3: is nineteen minutes away from seven brand Bridge. So tomorrow

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01:29:48,560 --> 01:29:51,240
Speaker 3: is obviously Trump's big day. We won't hear about it

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01:29:51,320 --> 01:29:53,320
Speaker 3: until let's local time tomorrow. We won't hear about it

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01:29:53,360 --> 01:29:56,720
Speaker 3: basically until Thursday morning when we wake up. This is

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01:29:56,840 --> 01:29:59,599
Speaker 3: tariffs and how much the reciprocal terrorists, how much they're

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01:29:59,600 --> 01:30:02,479
Speaker 3: going to on different parts of the world and different

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01:30:02,520 --> 01:30:05,080
Speaker 3: industries potentially as well, So we'll find out more about

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Speaker 3: that this week. I just wanted the question I have

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Speaker 3: about the poll from Orange z Red research on the

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Speaker 3: school lunches, which found the majority sixty two odd percent

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Speaker 3: of parents thought it was our people thought it was

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Speaker 3: parents most responsible for providing lunches for their children. Those

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01:30:21,439 --> 01:30:23,880
Speaker 3: on the lowest incomes were more likely to think it

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Speaker 3: was parents well. Those on the highest incomes were more

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01:30:27,120 --> 01:30:29,320
Speaker 3: likely to say it was the government. Why do you

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Speaker 3: think that is? Is that because do you think Champagne

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01:30:32,160 --> 01:30:36,919
Speaker 3: socialists who are sort of ideological with the higher incomes

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Speaker 3: who were thinking it should be the government, and then

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Speaker 3: those on the lower incomes perhaps think more this is

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Speaker 3: my job than my kids. I'll feed them. How do

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Speaker 3: you explain that ro Sorry Dean has texted and saying

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Speaker 3: school lunch survey explanation of high incomes in favor of

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Speaker 3: someone else paying is due to overpaid public servants who

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Speaker 3: were all raving socialists with their noses in the trough.

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Speaker 3: I mean that some of them will be Dean, some

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01:31:01,160 --> 01:31:03,920
Speaker 3: of them will be, but not all of them. Someone

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01:31:03,960 --> 01:31:05,920
Speaker 3: else actually is asking about the deans av and christ

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01:31:06,000 --> 01:31:08,400
Speaker 3: Church speed bump story saying are you sure that's not

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01:31:08,439 --> 01:31:12,320
Speaker 3: an April Fools gag? It's not. It was actually first

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01:31:13,400 --> 01:31:17,760
Speaker 3: mentioned yesterday and also with April Fools gags, you have

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01:31:17,840 --> 01:31:21,040
Speaker 3: to tell everybody by midday otherwise the joke's on you.

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01:31:21,680 --> 01:31:25,120
Speaker 3: So definitely not a gag. That's a real thing. Seventeen

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Speaker 3: away from seven will get to end it in the

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Speaker 3: UK next.

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Speaker 2: Croaching the numbers and getting the results.

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Speaker 1: It's Ryan Bridge with the Business Hour and mass insurance

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01:31:34,880 --> 01:31:38,719
Speaker 1: and investments. Crue your wealth, protect your future, news dogs

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Speaker 1: B fourteen to.

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Speaker 3: Seven now Indo. Brady's a UK correspondent and a good

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Speaker 3: evening to you, hey, Ryan, good to speak, good to

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Speaker 3: speak to your too. Now Birmingham has declared a major incident.

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Speaker 3: It's all to do with rubbish. What's going on.

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Speaker 30: An ongoing strike and industrial action between the ben man

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01:31:58,320 --> 01:32:02,080
Speaker 30: and women who work for Birmingham City Council. They're angry

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01:32:02,080 --> 01:32:05,000
Speaker 30: about pay and changes to their working conditions. This has

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01:32:05,040 --> 01:32:07,760
Speaker 30: been going on for some weeks, believe it or not,

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Speaker 30: and this is absolutely shocking. Seventeen thousand tons of refuse

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Speaker 30: on the streets of Birmingham are right now uncollected. Now

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01:32:17,680 --> 01:32:20,240
Speaker 30: the councils say they have been sending out the odd

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01:32:20,320 --> 01:32:22,640
Speaker 30: lurry here and there, leaving their depots to try and

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01:32:22,680 --> 01:32:26,800
Speaker 30: get the refuse off the streets. It's unhygienic, clearly it

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Speaker 30: could cause health problems for the population and the councilor

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01:32:30,040 --> 01:32:35,040
Speaker 30: claiming that picketers are stopping lrri's leaving the depots and

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01:32:35,080 --> 01:32:39,160
Speaker 30: that's exacerbating the problem. So some common sense needs to

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01:32:39,160 --> 01:32:41,439
Speaker 30: be used here. But it looks if you were to

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01:32:41,479 --> 01:32:43,640
Speaker 30: look at parts of Birmingham right now and say that

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01:32:43,680 --> 01:32:47,799
Speaker 30: this is a small mafia infested town in southern Italy

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01:32:47,840 --> 01:32:52,000
Speaker 30: where there's some corruption problems with the local refuse collectors,

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01:32:52,320 --> 01:32:55,479
Speaker 30: you could see and understand why rubbish is piled high.

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01:32:55,760 --> 01:32:58,519
Speaker 30: This is Birmingham in England in twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, not a great look. Now, the S and P

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Speaker 3: five hundred, the nasdeck Compass that had their worst quarters

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Speaker 3: since twenty twenty two this quarter. Obviously we're all bracing

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01:33:09,520 --> 01:33:13,200
Speaker 3: for what Trump is going to do tomorrow. How is well,

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01:33:13,280 --> 01:33:16,679
Speaker 3: what is the UK and Europe doing to prepare ender.

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Speaker 30: Well, I can tell you kir Starmer is not going

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01:33:20,320 --> 01:33:23,880
Speaker 30: to put in reciprocal tariffs. That was one view that

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Speaker 30: one card that the UK had up with sleeve. But

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Speaker 30: what we're hearing this morning here is that they will

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01:33:30,240 --> 01:33:34,120
Speaker 30: just see what happens tomorrow. The word in UK government

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01:33:34,200 --> 01:33:36,920
Speaker 30: is that Trump is looking for a big bang tomorrow.

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01:33:37,120 --> 01:33:39,439
Speaker 30: So we know he loves the headlines, he loves the limelight.

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01:33:39,880 --> 01:33:42,120
Speaker 30: So the feeling is in Europe that there's going to

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01:33:42,160 --> 01:33:45,800
Speaker 30: be at least a twenty percent tariff right across the

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01:33:45,840 --> 01:33:48,639
Speaker 30: board and everything going into the United States from Europe.

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01:33:48,760 --> 01:33:51,519
Speaker 30: Now Britain is not going to bite back. There had

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01:33:51,560 --> 01:33:55,800
Speaker 30: been the hope that Britain would be exempt, that they

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01:33:55,880 --> 01:33:57,960
Speaker 30: might car of the UK out of all of these

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01:33:58,040 --> 01:34:01,880
Speaker 30: European tariffs. Because Trump Starmer have a good relationship. The

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01:34:02,040 --> 01:34:04,559
Speaker 30: UK government had put stuff on the table as a

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01:34:04,640 --> 01:34:08,320
Speaker 30: kind of sweetener for the Americans and the Trump administration

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01:34:08,800 --> 01:34:11,720
Speaker 30: removing the Digital Services Tax, which brings in about one

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01:34:11,760 --> 01:34:15,360
Speaker 30: point six billion dollars a year from American tech, that

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01:34:15,520 --> 01:34:18,320
Speaker 30: was going to be taken off the table. And ultimately

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01:34:18,720 --> 01:34:21,040
Speaker 30: Trump wants his big day, he wants his big bang.

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01:34:21,439 --> 01:34:24,200
Speaker 30: And I think the big fear here, Ryan is what's

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01:34:24,240 --> 01:34:27,360
Speaker 30: it going to do to UK GDP. All the predictions

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01:34:27,400 --> 01:34:30,680
Speaker 30: are it would wipe zero point six of a percentage

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01:34:30,880 --> 01:34:34,200
Speaker 30: off the annual GDP for Britain that would put us

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Speaker 30: into reception.

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01:34:36,160 --> 01:34:38,920
Speaker 3: Now, Kise Dama got a lot of us plate. He's

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01:34:38,960 --> 01:34:41,479
Speaker 3: held a news conference in London. This is over the

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01:34:41,520 --> 01:34:43,400
Speaker 3: issue of the bik migrants. What's he saying now?

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01:34:45,240 --> 01:34:48,519
Speaker 30: So he says it's unrealistic to reduce it down to zero,

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01:34:48,880 --> 01:34:50,479
Speaker 30: but they have to try.

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01:34:50,640 --> 01:34:50,840
Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 30: The backdrop to all of this is that the numbers

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01:34:53,000 --> 01:34:56,960
Speaker 30: are getting worse and worse. So far this year, six

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01:34:57,080 --> 01:35:01,240
Speaker 30: one thousand, six hundred and forty two men, women and children,

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01:35:01,360 --> 01:35:04,800
Speaker 30: predominantly young working age men have got into the UK

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01:35:05,000 --> 01:35:09,360
Speaker 30: illegally on these dinghies from France. Six thousand, six hundred

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01:35:09,400 --> 01:35:12,240
Speaker 30: and forty two. That is the highest it has ever

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01:35:12,280 --> 01:35:15,799
Speaker 30: been on April the first, So something needs to change.

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Speaker 30: The mathematics. The financials on this ryan are shocking. Sixteen

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01:35:20,200 --> 01:35:24,000
Speaker 30: million dollars a day are being spent on hotel accommodation

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01:35:24,520 --> 01:35:28,280
Speaker 30: for asylum seekers coming into the UK via dinghies from France.

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01:35:28,600 --> 01:35:32,680
Speaker 30: So Starmer's big conference, interestingly he got loads of leaders

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01:35:32,720 --> 01:35:38,040
Speaker 30: and politicians and police and coast Guard representatives. He also

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01:35:38,040 --> 01:35:41,160
Speaker 30: got the social media companies in all the big ones.

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Speaker 30: I'm not going to name them.

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Speaker 2: You know who they are.

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Speaker 30: And the reason he got them in is because, believe

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01:35:46,000 --> 01:35:50,400
Speaker 30: it or not, these criminal gangs people smugglers are advertising

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01:35:50,439 --> 01:35:54,400
Speaker 30: their services on social media, how you can get into

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01:35:54,400 --> 01:35:56,640
Speaker 30: the UK, how much you need to pay, where you

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01:35:56,680 --> 01:35:58,439
Speaker 30: need to be, and look what they give you, a

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01:35:58,479 --> 01:36:00,639
Speaker 30: lovely big hotel to give you clow then you.

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01:36:00,520 --> 01:36:01,120
Speaker 3: Get a job.

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01:36:01,600 --> 01:36:04,360
Speaker 30: All of this is being advertised that their entire business

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01:36:04,400 --> 01:36:07,120
Speaker 30: model is like something you see on Instagram.

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01:36:07,160 --> 01:36:12,000
Speaker 3: Absolutely shocking, which does that not reinforce the point that

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01:36:12,040 --> 01:36:15,080
Speaker 3: the right makes about not providing those things in the

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01:36:15,120 --> 01:36:15,759
Speaker 3: first place.

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01:36:17,520 --> 01:36:20,560
Speaker 30: It's a very very good point. But look, the criminal

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01:36:20,640 --> 01:36:25,439
Speaker 30: gangs are exploiting everything, the people's desperation and they're pointing

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01:36:25,439 --> 01:36:27,320
Speaker 30: out what's on offer when you get to the UK.

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01:36:27,560 --> 01:36:30,880
Speaker 30: But I find it amazing that in this day and age,

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01:36:31,280 --> 01:36:34,520
Speaker 30: they're able to use the algorithms, they're able to advertise

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01:36:34,520 --> 01:36:38,040
Speaker 30: as if they're a legitimate business and Britain's picking up

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01:36:38,080 --> 01:36:40,479
Speaker 30: the pieces. But look, we've got NGOs here, we've got

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01:36:40,560 --> 01:36:44,000
Speaker 30: charities and I've seen it firsthand myself in Europe. I've

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01:36:44,000 --> 01:36:47,439
Speaker 30: been there in Italy, Guys literally getting off boats and

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01:36:47,560 --> 01:36:50,559
Speaker 30: being given brand new two hundred dollars trainers because they've

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01:36:50,600 --> 01:36:54,120
Speaker 30: nothing else. And it is it is a business. It

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01:36:54,160 --> 01:36:56,320
Speaker 30: is That is the only way to describe it. It

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01:36:56,439 --> 01:36:59,680
Speaker 30: is a business. And I've seen this firsthand less than

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01:36:59,680 --> 01:37:02,120
Speaker 30: any of our listeners get into a John Twitter. I've

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01:37:02,160 --> 01:37:03,439
Speaker 30: been there, I've seen.

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Speaker 3: It interesting And to thank you for that really interesting stuff,

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Speaker 3: Ander Brady, our UK correspondent. It is nine minutes away

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Speaker 3: from seven News Talks EBB.

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Speaker 3: Six away from seven News Talks BB the tobacco issues

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01:37:22,320 --> 01:37:25,080
Speaker 3: hit the headlines again today. A twenty five pack of

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01:37:25,160 --> 01:37:29,680
Speaker 3: cigarettes cost you fifty dollars. I was shocked to read this.

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01:37:30,000 --> 01:37:32,360
Speaker 3: Eighty percent of this is made up of tax that's

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01:37:32,400 --> 01:37:35,320
Speaker 3: either excise of GST, and for the first time, the

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01:37:35,360 --> 01:37:40,439
Speaker 3: amount that's collected is falling even though the tax rate

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01:37:40,680 --> 01:37:43,639
Speaker 3: is going up, which indicates apparently that people are turning

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01:37:43,640 --> 01:37:45,920
Speaker 3: to the black market for their tobacco. Because these are

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01:37:45,960 --> 01:37:49,559
Speaker 3: the last hardcore group of smokers that are not giving up,

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01:37:49,600 --> 01:37:52,679
Speaker 3: come hell or high water, They're going to keep on smoking.

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Speaker 3: Eighty percent of that is tax at this point do

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01:37:55,960 --> 01:37:58,880
Speaker 3: you not just give up? I mean if someone if

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Speaker 3: someone wants to smoke at fifty dollars for a packet

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01:38:01,920 --> 01:38:05,280
Speaker 3: of twenty five, are you going to stop them at sixty?

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01:38:05,720 --> 01:38:07,640
Speaker 3: I don't think so. I think you just give up

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01:38:07,640 --> 01:38:09,880
Speaker 3: at this point and you say, hey, if you get

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01:38:09,920 --> 01:38:13,879
Speaker 3: your cancer, that's on you. You know, how many warnings

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01:38:13,920 --> 01:38:16,000
Speaker 3: can you give people? I think we've done all the

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01:38:16,040 --> 01:38:19,800
Speaker 3: warnings in the world. And eighty percent tax, that's the problem.

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Speaker 3: They want to keep collecting that tax, don't they. It's

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01:38:22,320 --> 01:38:25,839
Speaker 3: worth nearly a couple of billion dollars to them anyway,

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01:38:26,120 --> 01:38:28,360
Speaker 3: news talks here, b it is five away from seven.

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01:38:28,360 --> 01:38:29,680
Speaker 3: If you want to smoke, smoke.

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Speaker 32: If it's not constitute health advice.

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Speaker 3: If there's one thing I hate more than smoking, it's tax. Okay,

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Speaker 3: that's how I feel about life. And what are we

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Speaker 3: going out to tonight?

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Speaker 32: Here comes the Sun by the Beatles to play us

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Speaker 32: out tonight. We've had some more news about the four

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Speaker 32: Beatles movies that are going to be coming out in

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Speaker 32: twenty twenty eight.

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Speaker 4: Yes, that's right. Four.

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Speaker 32: So the Sam Mendez has been working on a Beatles biopic,

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Speaker 32: but he was like, okay, it's just too big a

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Speaker 32: story for one movie, So I quite like what he's done.

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Speaker 32: He's going to do four movies and each is going

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Speaker 32: to be about one of the Beatles, so it's going

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Speaker 32: to be the same presumably the same or an overlapping

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Speaker 32: story told from four different perspectives.

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Speaker 3: Wow, that's complicated.

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Speaker 32: Yeah, yeah, but this is good though, right because if

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Speaker 32: your favorite was George, you can just go watch the

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Speaker 32: George movie. True, and if you're a super if you're

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Speaker 32: a superfan, you can watch all four. Yeah, and he's

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Speaker 32: also confirmed who's going to play them. So John Lennon

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Speaker 32: will be Harris Dickinson, who you was in Where the

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Speaker 32: Crawdads Sing, two of the guys from Gladiator two. Joseph Quinn,

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Speaker 32: who's also been in Stranger Things, is going to play George,

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Speaker 32: and Paul mescal is going to play Paul McCartney. And

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Speaker 32: Barry Cogan from Saltburn and the Banni Banshees of an

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Speaker 32: Isiroan he is going to play Ringo Star And if

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Speaker 32: you're a super fan, probably we probably knew all that

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Speaker 32: already because it leaked age zero. But anyway, he's a

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Speaker 32: confirmed that that's official.

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Speaker 3: Nice one ants, thank you for that at least a

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Speaker 3: big good music and all four.

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Speaker 32: Yeah, April twenty twenty eight, and they're all going to

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Speaker 32: come out in the same month, so you can just

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Speaker 32: have an absolute Beatles, you know, frenzy then if you're

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Speaker 32: really into it.

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Speaker 3: Beatles bonanza. Thank you, Thanks everybody for listening, Thanks for

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Speaker 3: your feedback, all of your emails and your text. Appreciate it.

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Speaker 3: We'll see tomorrow.

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Speaker 31: It's like you siicit clue.

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Speaker 13: He comes, he comes, It's all right, he comes, he

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Speaker 13: comes to.

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Speaker 2: It's all right, it's all right. For more from Hither Dupless,

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Speaker 2: see Alan Drive.

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