1 00:00:02,560 --> 00:00:08,119 Speaker 1: The issues, the interviews, and the inside Early with one 2 00:00:08,200 --> 00:00:11,720 Speaker 1: roof make your property search simple, News. 3 00:00:11,600 --> 00:00:15,280 Speaker 2: Dogs b Good morning, Welcome to Early Edition. I'm Francisco 4 00:00:15,320 --> 00:00:17,680 Speaker 2: Budkin filling in for Andrew Dickens this morning. Good to 5 00:00:17,680 --> 00:00:19,840 Speaker 2: have you with us. You're most welcome to contact me 6 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:22,920 Speaker 2: anytime this morning. You can text on ninety two ninety two, 7 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:25,200 Speaker 2: or you can flict me an email at Francesca at 8 00:00:25,200 --> 00:00:28,360 Speaker 2: newstalg ZDB dot co dot NZ. On the show today, 9 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:31,680 Speaker 2: should global streamers like Netflix, Apple and Disney be required 10 00:00:31,720 --> 00:00:34,720 Speaker 2: to invest in local Keywi content? We look at the 11 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 2: updated rental market guidelines around what information landlords can and 12 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:41,760 Speaker 2: can't ask for, and before the end of the hour, 13 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:44,680 Speaker 2: we talked to Keith Morrison, new Plymouth fishermen and owner 14 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:48,239 Speaker 2: of Egmont Seafoods about the impact proposed changes to the 15 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:52,360 Speaker 2: Fisheries Act will have on the industry. 16 00:00:52,479 --> 00:00:53,560 Speaker 1: The agenda. 17 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:57,200 Speaker 2: It's Thursday, the thirteenth of February. The Israel Hamas sistar 18 00:00:57,360 --> 00:01:01,520 Speaker 2: is still hanging on by a thread. Israeli priman Benjamin 19 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:05,640 Speaker 2: Netanyahu has reiterated the Saturday deadline for Hamas to release 20 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:09,280 Speaker 2: the hostages, which the militant group has threatened to delay. 21 00:01:10,480 --> 00:01:13,720 Speaker 3: If Hamas does not return our hostages by Saturday noon, 22 00:01:13,959 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 3: the ceasefire will end and the military will return to 23 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:20,120 Speaker 3: intense fighting until Hamas is finally defeated. 24 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:25,680 Speaker 2: Meanwhile, US Defense Secretary Pete Seth has appeared at his 25 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:28,960 Speaker 2: first meeting of the Ukraine Defense Contact Group. He told 26 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:31,920 Speaker 2: allies the war between Ukraine and Russia must end and 27 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 2: that Kiev joining NATO is unrealistic. 28 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:38,840 Speaker 3: We must start by recognizing that returning to Ukraine's pre 29 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:46,160 Speaker 3: twenty fourteen borders is an unrealistic objective. Chasing this illusionary 30 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 3: goal will only prolong the war and cause more suffering. 31 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:52,320 Speaker 2: Across the ditch. The male nurse who made threats against 32 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 2: Israeli patients and a viral social media video claims the 33 00:01:55,080 --> 00:01:58,600 Speaker 2: incident was a joke and a misunderstanding. The man and woman, 34 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:01,400 Speaker 2: both employees at Sydney Hill Hospital, have been suspended for 35 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:04,120 Speaker 2: the video, which appeared to show them threatening to kill 36 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 2: Israeli patients and boasting about refusing to treat them. 37 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:11,160 Speaker 4: My client sends a very sincere apology to not only 38 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:13,440 Speaker 4: that individual, but to the Jewish community. 39 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:17,440 Speaker 2: And finally, Elon Musk once again has denied a hostile 40 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:20,640 Speaker 2: takeover of the US government and defended his cost cutting plans. 41 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:24,000 Speaker 2: Donald Trump signed an order giving Musk's Department of Government 42 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:27,839 Speaker 2: Efficiency more authority to cut the federal workforce. The two 43 00:02:27,919 --> 00:02:30,919 Speaker 2: took questions from reporters in the Oval Office. 44 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 5: We have this unelected, fourth unconstitutional branch of government, which 45 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:39,680 Speaker 5: is the bureaucracy, which has in a lot of ways 46 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 5: currently more power than any elected representatives. And this is uh, 47 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 5: there's not something that people want. 48 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 2: And that's their agenda. 49 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:51,720 Speaker 1: News and Views you trust to start your day's early 50 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:55,720 Speaker 1: edition where one room, make your property search simple. 51 00:02:55,840 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 2: News dogs in the nine past five now the government 52 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 2: is asking for fee back on five proposals aimed to 53 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:06,359 Speaker 2: help local media go up against international competitors. This was 54 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:09,840 Speaker 2: announced by the Minister for Media and Communications Paul Goldsmith yesterday. 55 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:14,640 Speaker 2: One of their proposals involves streaming services and the requirement 56 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:17,480 Speaker 2: for them to invest in New Zealand content and SPARTA 57 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:19,840 Speaker 2: President Iron Gardner will be with us in just a 58 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:22,480 Speaker 2: moment to talk about this aspect of the overhaul. But 59 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:25,120 Speaker 2: also on the agenda is the question of whether we 60 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:27,800 Speaker 2: should merge the New Zealand Film Commission and New Zealand 61 00:03:27,880 --> 00:03:30,000 Speaker 2: on Air that this is not a new idea. It 62 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:32,280 Speaker 2: has been floating around for a while now in Duncan 63 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:34,560 Speaker 2: Grieve and the spinoff wrote a really detailed piece about 64 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 2: it mid last year. Those in the industry will have 65 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 2: an opinion on whether this is a good move or not, 66 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:41,280 Speaker 2: but the one thing you can't deny is that this 67 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:44,760 Speaker 2: is a good time to discuss it. Once upon a time, 68 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 2: New Zealand on Air, which funds TV shows, tallyfilms, stream shows, 69 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 2: some music podcasts, and the Film Commission, which funds, markets 70 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:55,480 Speaker 2: and distributes New Zealand films and administers the screen production rebate. 71 00:03:55,720 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 2: They had quite different jobs and they worked within quite 72 00:03:58,160 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 2: different realms. But these days, with changes to the way 73 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 2: we watch TV and film, the dominance of streaming services, 74 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 2: the fact that we want New Zealand content that we 75 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:09,160 Speaker 2: relate to, but we can also sell to a global market, 76 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 2: and that everyone seems to be handing out rebates of 77 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 2: some sort, it means that these two agencies are more 78 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:17,520 Speaker 2: aligned with what they're trying to achieve. As Greve wrote, 79 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:19,400 Speaker 2: as the remits of New Zealand on Air and the 80 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 2: Film Commission have broadened, so their work has become somewhat tangled. 81 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:28,800 Speaker 2: So this is a good time to move the industry forward, 82 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:33,680 Speaker 2: an industry which is really struggling. Align the interests, improve 83 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:37,960 Speaker 2: media regulations in legislation, be ambitious. It's not going to 84 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:41,520 Speaker 2: affect funding, but the time has come for big moves 85 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:49,800 Speaker 2: and revitalization. It is ten past five. You're with early edition, the. 86 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 1: News you need this morning and the in depth analysis 87 00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 1: Early edition. Where's one roof make your property search simple 88 00:04:56,800 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 1: news talks that. 89 00:04:57,680 --> 00:05:01,719 Speaker 2: Be thirteen past five. Now local media may soon be 90 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:04,960 Speaker 2: on a more level playing field. Global streamers like Netflix, 91 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:07,880 Speaker 2: Apple and Disney could be required to invest in local 92 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:11,560 Speaker 2: key we content underproposed changes to the media sector. The 93 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:14,920 Speaker 2: Screen Producers Guild has been lobbying for regulation of international 94 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:18,039 Speaker 2: streamers for quite some time. In Sparta, President Irene Gardner 95 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:21,400 Speaker 2: is with me this morning, as always, appreciate your time, Irene. 96 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:25,000 Speaker 6: Lovely to be here, Willie. 97 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 7: It is. 98 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:30,559 Speaker 2: What are your thoughts on this? Will this be enough? 99 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:35,440 Speaker 6: Well, it's a really good start. The discuss that's a 100 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:38,559 Speaker 6: lot of the discussion document is actually very very good. 101 00:05:38,640 --> 00:05:43,080 Speaker 6: It's it's quite detailed, quite considered, and it shows a 102 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:46,400 Speaker 6: really good understanding of the local production sector and the 103 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:51,279 Speaker 6: challenges that we're currently stacing, so that's great. We feel 104 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:53,360 Speaker 6: kind of you know, listened to, which is always a 105 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:56,719 Speaker 6: nice thing. And as you mentioned in your intro, we're 106 00:05:56,720 --> 00:06:00,880 Speaker 6: particularly pleased to see regulating the international streaming companies is 107 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 6: one of the proposals because we've been lobbying for that 108 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:08,360 Speaker 6: foot for such a long time. But it's there's still 109 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:09,880 Speaker 6: a lot of work to be done, you know, there's 110 00:06:09,920 --> 00:06:12,279 Speaker 6: different options, and that's the whole point of a discussion 111 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:14,800 Speaker 6: document is that people now submit and we wouldok ut 112 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:18,800 Speaker 6: the best way forward, but at least it's there. The 113 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:24,000 Speaker 6: way they're talking about it is perhaps an investment on 114 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:29,320 Speaker 6: a percentage of revenue that the streamers are making, and 115 00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:32,920 Speaker 6: the same sort of local quota amount would be put 116 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 6: on our local broadcasters if there's slight danger there. We 117 00:06:36,279 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 6: don't want to hurt the local bood casters who are 118 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:41,560 Speaker 6: operating in the same amount of money, you know, and 119 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:43,600 Speaker 6: that's part of our problems that we don't have the 120 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:47,360 Speaker 6: revenue so much anymore because of the impact of the streamers, 121 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:50,719 Speaker 6: So we'd have to make sure that the local part 122 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:53,080 Speaker 6: of it was manageable and it wasn't hurting anybody, So 123 00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:57,160 Speaker 6: that wasn't unintended consequences, but you know that's the sort 124 00:06:57,160 --> 00:07:01,080 Speaker 6: of stuff that can all be worked through. We actually 125 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:03,479 Speaker 6: proposed for a levee system where they just paid a 126 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:07,719 Speaker 6: percentage of their New Zealand revenue and that was invested 127 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:12,720 Speaker 6: back into local production, which may maybe a better system 128 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 6: might be fairer, harder to work around a. 129 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:17,600 Speaker 2: Little bit that's and simpler maybe to ring. 130 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:20,720 Speaker 6: Yeah, but you know, we're open to anything that helps 131 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 6: the level the playing field because you know, it really 132 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 6: has been incredibly tough as the streamers have kind of 133 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:30,400 Speaker 6: got a string or hold over audiences and therefore, you know, 134 00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:33,720 Speaker 6: affected the ad revenue that local dictions always relied on. 135 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:37,240 Speaker 6: So it's it's a present start. Well that's a good 136 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:38,000 Speaker 6: little way to go. 137 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:39,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that's the question. Isn't it as New 138 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:41,560 Speaker 2: Zealand showing up too late on this? 139 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:46,360 Speaker 6: Well, ideally it should have happened years ago, and you know, 140 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:48,200 Speaker 6: we wouldn't have gotten to the problem we're in now. 141 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 6: We're advertising revenue is completely fell off a cliff this 142 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:54,440 Speaker 6: past year and everything is really tough, but it's never 143 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:58,720 Speaker 6: too late, So yeah, let's just really push and hope 144 00:07:58,760 --> 00:08:03,160 Speaker 6: that it happened because they you know, I mean, we 145 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 6: love the streamers. They've been wonderful content here sometimes they 146 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:08,240 Speaker 6: shoot shows here, but you know, they haven't invested in 147 00:08:08,320 --> 00:08:11,360 Speaker 6: local at all and they've taken our eyeballs and our 148 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:14,160 Speaker 6: ad rev and so they kind of should be part 149 00:08:14,200 --> 00:08:17,440 Speaker 6: of the solution because it's them that's the great things, 150 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:22,120 Speaker 6: and anything any regulation in this area that helps them 151 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 6: all the plainfield will be very very welcome. 152 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 2: Irene Have the streamers have faced regulation in other countries. 153 00:08:32,280 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 6: Starting too, Starting to Yes, there's quite a few countries 154 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:37,839 Speaker 6: that are much further out of the block than US. 155 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 6: A lot, particularly European Scandinavian territories. They seem to have 156 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:45,840 Speaker 6: all been very good at getting things happening. Australia has 157 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:48,320 Speaker 6: been pushing and pushing and pushing, but still haven't quite 158 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:51,839 Speaker 6: got there. And you know, what there are thought is 159 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:56,160 Speaker 6: quite similar to what's been posed in the document, which 160 00:08:56,240 --> 00:09:01,280 Speaker 6: is a percentage of their Australian revenue you know, invested 161 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:04,800 Speaker 6: into local content. So you know, maybe we'll do something 162 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:08,960 Speaker 6: that's quite similar. And you know, being too, territories quite connected, 163 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:16,000 Speaker 6: but internationally there's levees usually around about sort of five 164 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:21,600 Speaker 6: six percent on their local revenue and there's also sort 165 00:09:21,600 --> 00:09:24,439 Speaker 6: of hybrids, you know, where you pay the levy, but 166 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:29,679 Speaker 6: you know you can also make local content instead and 167 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:32,640 Speaker 6: get your levee amount reduced. So there's different ways of 168 00:09:32,679 --> 00:09:35,440 Speaker 6: looking at it. And you know, to be fair, this 169 00:09:35,520 --> 00:09:38,200 Speaker 6: is a discussion document and it's just put it out, 170 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:41,120 Speaker 6: but it's put streamers regulating in there, put a you know, 171 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:44,360 Speaker 6: a proposed perhaps preferred way of doing it. But it's 172 00:09:44,400 --> 00:09:47,160 Speaker 6: also said that they're open to looking at different ways. 173 00:09:47,200 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 6: So you know, SPARTA and others can come back on 174 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:52,240 Speaker 6: that and say, well, hey, you know, this might work. 175 00:09:52,880 --> 00:09:56,240 Speaker 6: It might be that what the reporter is down has 176 00:09:56,240 --> 00:09:59,480 Speaker 6: gone for what is most palatable, you know what, because 177 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:01,960 Speaker 6: obviously the to big companies and they do push back 178 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:05,360 Speaker 6: when regulation has tried. They might be thinking that this 179 00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:11,560 Speaker 6: is more palatable than a straight levy. I think the 180 00:10:11,600 --> 00:10:14,560 Speaker 6: tricky thing was something like this is you can maybe 181 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:16,880 Speaker 6: sort of sneak around it and ways like you can 182 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:18,960 Speaker 6: just buy a whole lot of local continent instead of 183 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:22,440 Speaker 6: investing in making some or you can make one incredibly 184 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:26,080 Speaker 6: expensive local production and that kind of only helps one area. 185 00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:28,800 Speaker 6: But you know, all of the splu worked out. 186 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:31,800 Speaker 2: As you say, a discussion document lots to talk about 187 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:35,439 Speaker 2: Iron Garden. Always appreciate your time. At is eighteen past five. 188 00:10:35,640 --> 00:10:38,360 Speaker 2: Up next, the Privacy Commissioner is wanting about the importance 189 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:40,960 Speaker 2: of privacy when securing a flat. What can and can't 190 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:42,439 Speaker 2: landlords ask? 191 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:47,080 Speaker 1: The first word on the news of the day earlier 192 00:10:47,200 --> 00:10:50,240 Speaker 1: edition with one roof will make your property surge? 193 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:53,880 Speaker 2: Simple news talks that'd be With early addition, it's twenty 194 00:10:53,920 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 2: past five. The Privacy Commissioner is wanting the hunter land 195 00:10:57,160 --> 00:10:59,440 Speaker 2: a flat should not come at the expense of privacy. 196 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:03,880 Speaker 2: He's updated rental market guidelines around what information landlords can 197 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:06,880 Speaker 2: and can't ask for. They can ask for names, proof 198 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:10,280 Speaker 2: of identity, and legal residency status, but they can't ask 199 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:14,160 Speaker 2: for things like bank statements, employment status, religious beliefs, or 200 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:18,400 Speaker 2: social media URLs. Serena Gibbon is general manager of Auckland's 201 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:21,559 Speaker 2: Property Investor Association, and she joins me, Now, good morning. 202 00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:23,359 Speaker 8: Good morning, Francesca. 203 00:11:23,400 --> 00:11:26,640 Speaker 2: Thanks for having me this conversation. We've had this, haven't 204 00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:29,880 Speaker 2: we happened back in twenty twenty one? So are we 205 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:32,960 Speaker 2: still seeing landlords asking for information they shouldn't? 206 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:35,079 Speaker 9: No, we're not. 207 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:38,920 Speaker 8: We're not seeing on a wholesale scale that landlord's asking 208 00:11:38,920 --> 00:11:42,080 Speaker 8: for information that they shouldn't be. And look, Francesca, I 209 00:11:42,080 --> 00:11:44,960 Speaker 8: think before anyone jumps on like a sealem which hunts 210 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:48,000 Speaker 8: against landlords and property managers, I will say this, I've 211 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:51,959 Speaker 8: read the Commissioner's press release and the language in there 212 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:56,439 Speaker 8: is very speculative and sort of more of PFA warning 213 00:11:56,480 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 8: in nature. And you know he's using words like could 214 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:02,840 Speaker 8: to me. You know, he's certainly not saying that there's 215 00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:06,160 Speaker 8: a horde of landlords out there collecting information they shouldn't. 216 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:10,040 Speaker 8: This is simply a reminder to the industry that, given 217 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:12,720 Speaker 8: the summer months and students are going back to school 218 00:12:12,760 --> 00:12:16,480 Speaker 8: now and looking for flats, that everyone in the rental 219 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:19,560 Speaker 8: sector should be very aware of their rights and obligations. 220 00:12:19,679 --> 00:12:23,040 Speaker 2: Serena, is there room for misinterpretation within rental roles or 221 00:12:23,040 --> 00:12:23,880 Speaker 2: are they pretty clear? 222 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:27,600 Speaker 8: The rules are pretty clear. I think the one thing 223 00:12:27,640 --> 00:12:31,199 Speaker 8: I would say, because I've worked worth the Procy Commissioners 224 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:35,120 Speaker 8: Office in the past to create the last iteration of 225 00:12:35,240 --> 00:12:38,560 Speaker 8: the guidance and the current one is in a big 226 00:12:38,600 --> 00:12:42,200 Speaker 8: departure from it, I would say, you know, with all 227 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:46,640 Speaker 8: due respect, it would be helpful instead of producing two 228 00:12:46,679 --> 00:12:51,200 Speaker 8: separate documents, one targeting landlords and a separate one targeting tenant. 229 00:12:51,520 --> 00:12:54,240 Speaker 8: If you look at both documents side by side, the 230 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:58,880 Speaker 8: language and the approach are very different, and that could 231 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:04,920 Speaker 8: end up setting different expectations for the two parties engaging 232 00:13:05,120 --> 00:13:09,440 Speaker 8: in residential tendency. So really, you know, what might have 233 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:12,200 Speaker 8: been more helpful is for there to be one uniform 234 00:13:12,280 --> 00:13:16,320 Speaker 8: document that both landlords and tenants can consult on and 235 00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:19,920 Speaker 8: guidance on. One of the examples I can give you 236 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:23,640 Speaker 8: is in the landlord document. The language is very specific 237 00:13:23,679 --> 00:13:30,200 Speaker 8: around the taking of photographs during property inspections, and it 238 00:13:30,440 --> 00:13:34,200 Speaker 8: maps out in there are certain exceptions where landlords certain 239 00:13:34,280 --> 00:13:39,160 Speaker 8: exceptional instances where landlords can take images of personal items, 240 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:42,240 Speaker 8: such as if they believe that these personal items are 241 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:46,000 Speaker 8: points to a lawful act or breach of the tendency 242 00:13:46,040 --> 00:13:48,960 Speaker 8: agreement or tendency law, but none of that is mentioned 243 00:13:49,160 --> 00:13:53,240 Speaker 8: in the tenants guidance documents. Tens. The guidance documents simply 244 00:13:53,320 --> 00:13:56,360 Speaker 8: says that landlords can be too intrusive in a way 245 00:13:56,520 --> 00:13:59,560 Speaker 8: they take photographs during inspection. So I'm sure you can 246 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:03,679 Speaker 8: see there, you know, with different languages, different guidances, it 247 00:14:03,800 --> 00:14:06,240 Speaker 8: lands everyone at a very different strike to point and 248 00:14:06,280 --> 00:14:09,040 Speaker 8: when it comes to taking photographs and that could create 249 00:14:09,240 --> 00:14:12,720 Speaker 8: some very complex disputes at the end of the line. 250 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:15,200 Speaker 2: Thank you so much, Serena for talking us through that. 251 00:14:15,200 --> 00:14:19,160 Speaker 2: It was Serena Gibbons, general manager of Auckland's Property Investor Association. 252 00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:22,440 Speaker 2: It's twenty four past five the Early Edition. 253 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:26,600 Speaker 1: Full show podcast on iHeartRadio powered by Newstalks AV. 254 00:14:27,960 --> 00:14:30,960 Speaker 2: Twenty six past five. Y're with early edition. While there 255 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:32,600 Speaker 2: is a Dominos in a subway, but there will be 256 00:14:32,640 --> 00:14:37,760 Speaker 2: no McDonald's in Wonica, at least at the currently proposed site. Yesterday, 257 00:14:37,760 --> 00:14:41,480 Speaker 2: commissioners declined to grant consent from McDonald's restaurant, largely due 258 00:14:41,560 --> 00:14:43,840 Speaker 2: to the location. So the proposed location was at the 259 00:14:43,920 --> 00:14:46,760 Speaker 2: edge of town where urban meets rural living. It's regarded 260 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 2: as outside the urban growth boundary for Wonaca, at one 261 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:54,200 Speaker 2: of the town's entrances, directly underneath the magnificent amount iron. 262 00:14:54,680 --> 00:14:57,720 Speaker 2: The McDonald's was deemed to be at odds with rural living, 263 00:14:57,960 --> 00:15:00,840 Speaker 2: the design of the building and surroundings not consistent with 264 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:03,600 Speaker 2: the landscape values of the site in its wider context. 265 00:15:03,960 --> 00:15:08,360 Speaker 2: Commissioners considered reports and findings about the architecture noise, traffic 266 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:12,240 Speaker 2: and future planning. Queenstown Lakes District Council opened the proposal 267 00:15:12,280 --> 00:15:15,040 Speaker 2: for public submissions. Are there About three hundred and sixty 268 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:16,600 Speaker 2: seven may to t One hundred and forty were very 269 00:15:16,640 --> 00:15:19,960 Speaker 2: much opposed to the development. Twenty one supported it. While 270 00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:22,480 Speaker 2: there were some who would have liked the opportunity for 271 00:15:22,520 --> 00:15:24,680 Speaker 2: a big Mac for dinner, many locals thought it would 272 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:28,960 Speaker 2: increase traffic, drink driving, litter, take business away from existing 273 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:31,960 Speaker 2: local businesses, stand out like a saw thumb, and have 274 00:15:32,040 --> 00:15:37,640 Speaker 2: a visual anesthetic impact on the town. Their issue was 275 00:15:37,640 --> 00:15:40,920 Speaker 2: was this rarely a fitting gateway for a town all 276 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:44,840 Speaker 2: about healthy living and environment, yoga and well being, ditching 277 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:48,920 Speaker 2: disposable coffee cups and slashing waste or has the horse 278 00:15:48,920 --> 00:15:51,800 Speaker 2: already bolted when it comes to Wanaka's image and culture. 279 00:15:51,920 --> 00:15:54,760 Speaker 2: The town's population has increased from ten thousand to eighteen 280 00:15:54,760 --> 00:15:57,880 Speaker 2: thousand and a decade. It's surrounded in subdivision development, and 281 00:15:57,880 --> 00:16:00,520 Speaker 2: then there's the Three Parks development not too far down 282 00:16:00,560 --> 00:16:03,000 Speaker 2: the road from the proposed McDonald's site, which is home 283 00:16:03,040 --> 00:16:06,520 Speaker 2: to a might attend Mega, a warehouse and numerous other outlets. 284 00:16:07,120 --> 00:16:10,400 Speaker 2: Last night, Queenstown District Deputy Mayor Quenen Smith told Andrew 285 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:12,920 Speaker 2: Dickens on news talks he'd be that proposed setting and 286 00:16:13,120 --> 00:16:14,920 Speaker 2: McDonald's wasn't a good fit. 287 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:19,600 Speaker 9: It may be parts of town where this activity might 288 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:22,480 Speaker 9: be appropriate, and if this was within a commercial within 289 00:16:22,520 --> 00:16:25,120 Speaker 9: the town center or within a commercial zone within the town, 290 00:16:25,160 --> 00:16:29,160 Speaker 9: I there say, there's very little that anybody could do 291 00:16:29,240 --> 00:16:29,680 Speaker 9: to stop that. 292 00:16:30,280 --> 00:16:32,480 Speaker 2: So did McDonald's just get it wrong? Did they not 293 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:34,720 Speaker 2: read the room being tucked away in the Three Parks 294 00:16:34,760 --> 00:16:36,680 Speaker 2: development or the center of town might have made it 295 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:39,880 Speaker 2: easy to gain consent, But would even that have been 296 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:43,760 Speaker 2: acceptable for locals? I say, good on the folks of Wanica. 297 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:47,360 Speaker 2: Who doesn't love a David and Goliath battle? There apparently 298 00:16:47,400 --> 00:16:49,360 Speaker 2: over forty one thousand McDonald's in the world. There's one 299 00:16:49,360 --> 00:16:52,160 Speaker 2: about an hour away from Wanicah. Does another small town 300 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:54,840 Speaker 2: need a golden arch? I personally love rolling into New 301 00:16:54,920 --> 00:16:59,040 Speaker 2: Zealand town's, exploring what's on offer, finding the best homemade pie, 302 00:16:59,360 --> 00:17:03,160 Speaker 2: shout out to Miles better pies in Tiano, and having 303 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:05,280 Speaker 2: a chat with locals. It's always good to get away 304 00:17:05,280 --> 00:17:09,119 Speaker 2: from the familiar. Tourists don't visit a stunning place like 305 00:17:09,160 --> 00:17:11,600 Speaker 2: Wanica because it has a McDonald. So it comes down 306 00:17:11,600 --> 00:17:14,439 Speaker 2: to the community. The community feel it doesn't reflect their 307 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:18,800 Speaker 2: values for whatever reason, protecting the vista, their brand, local businesses, 308 00:17:19,359 --> 00:17:21,959 Speaker 2: or just plain old snobbery. And I say go for it, 309 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:25,320 Speaker 2: fight the fight, just like the Magnificent I cold it 310 00:17:25,400 --> 00:17:30,040 Speaker 2: did zimb so as Wanakura being a little bit snobby. 311 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:32,600 Speaker 2: Should locals and the visitors be able to make a 312 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:35,320 Speaker 2: decision about whether they eat maccas or not. Love to 313 00:17:35,359 --> 00:17:39,680 Speaker 2: hear from you ninety two ninety two. Now a proposed 314 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:42,040 Speaker 2: major shakeup of the Fisheries Act has been announced. We're 315 00:17:42,040 --> 00:17:43,920 Speaker 2: going to cover that before the end of the hour. 316 00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:46,000 Speaker 2: News is next here on early edition. 317 00:17:55,520 --> 00:17:59,120 Speaker 1: Get ahead of the headlines on early edition. Where's one 318 00:17:59,240 --> 00:18:00,639 Speaker 1: roof your property? 319 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:01,040 Speaker 10: Search? 320 00:18:01,359 --> 00:18:05,720 Speaker 1: Simple news talk zib my head was that when. 321 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:07,760 Speaker 9: You found me? 322 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:18,760 Speaker 2: Good morning. This is the early additional newstalks. I'm Francisco 323 00:18:18,800 --> 00:18:20,920 Speaker 2: Budkin filling in for Andrew today. Thank you for being 324 00:18:20,920 --> 00:18:22,639 Speaker 2: with us, and the next half hour head to the 325 00:18:22,760 --> 00:18:26,960 Speaker 2: US where Elon Musk is defending transparency around his government 326 00:18:27,040 --> 00:18:31,080 Speaker 2: costcusting initiatives, and Shane Jones has announced proposed changes to 327 00:18:31,119 --> 00:18:33,200 Speaker 2: the Fisheries Act that would see the loosening of catch 328 00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:36,879 Speaker 2: regulations and restrict who can access camera footage from fishing boats. 329 00:18:37,280 --> 00:18:40,400 Speaker 2: We get a fisherman's thoughts on this before the end 330 00:18:40,480 --> 00:18:42,919 Speaker 2: of the hour. Hey, thanks so much for your feedback. 331 00:18:43,080 --> 00:18:46,359 Speaker 2: And ninety two ninety two is the text. One reads. 332 00:18:46,400 --> 00:18:48,440 Speaker 2: I do not like McDonald's or businesses like them, but 333 00:18:48,480 --> 00:18:50,480 Speaker 2: I do defend their right to operate. The decision to 334 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:51,520 Speaker 2: block them is unjust. 335 00:18:51,720 --> 00:18:52,000 Speaker 8: Do you know what. 336 00:18:52,080 --> 00:18:53,720 Speaker 2: I think they just got it wrong. I just think 337 00:18:53,720 --> 00:18:56,280 Speaker 2: they pitched the wrong place. It's the place that they 338 00:18:56,280 --> 00:18:58,280 Speaker 2: would prefer. But I think if they really wanted one 339 00:18:58,480 --> 00:19:01,120 Speaker 2: up and running in Wanaka, they should have just listened 340 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:02,800 Speaker 2: to the community a little bit better and might have 341 00:19:02,840 --> 00:19:05,520 Speaker 2: had a bit more support. And other reads good on Wanica. 342 00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:08,640 Speaker 2: Mcmacus doesn't need to be everywhere in this country. Support 343 00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:12,080 Speaker 2: the businesses of a Wanaka. I say. We were talking 344 00:19:12,119 --> 00:19:16,200 Speaker 2: also about local content and been able to get streaming 345 00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:21,600 Speaker 2: services to pay a levy towards our industry. Francesca. The 346 00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:24,359 Speaker 2: local stuff has to be has to up its game 347 00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:27,000 Speaker 2: to stuff that people want to watch, much of it 348 00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:29,720 Speaker 2: as amateur. Do you know what? There are shows in 349 00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:33,280 Speaker 2: New Zealand, like the Broken Wood Mysteries that do incredibly 350 00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:35,679 Speaker 2: well overseas. They're hugely popular in the US and the 351 00:19:35,760 --> 00:19:38,800 Speaker 2: UK and France and Denmark and all around Europe and things. 352 00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:40,840 Speaker 2: We don't often hear about the success that we have 353 00:19:40,920 --> 00:19:43,840 Speaker 2: in selling some of these shows, and there's quite a 354 00:19:43,880 --> 00:19:46,200 Speaker 2: few of them Creamery, My Life is Murder, quite a 355 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:48,600 Speaker 2: few of our reality shows as well, the Traders and 356 00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:50,160 Speaker 2: things that all get sold as well. So a lot 357 00:19:50,160 --> 00:19:52,240 Speaker 2: of this material is getting sold. We want it on 358 00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:55,840 Speaker 2: the streaming services and we want them to pay a little, 359 00:19:56,359 --> 00:20:00,320 Speaker 2: you know, to help uss out remain a robust industry. Hey, 360 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:03,520 Speaker 2: thank you for your feedback. You can keep the text coming. 361 00:20:03,560 --> 00:20:07,960 Speaker 2: You can text on ninety two ninety two what z be. 362 00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:10,160 Speaker 11: All right? 363 00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:12,680 Speaker 2: And we head around the country now and joining me 364 00:20:12,840 --> 00:20:16,159 Speaker 2: and anedin is Callum Proctor. Good morning, Callum. There's going 365 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:18,200 Speaker 2: to be no sign as we were just talking about 366 00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:19,560 Speaker 2: of the Golden Arches and Wonnica. 367 00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:23,000 Speaker 4: That's right, they're a Gonburger, you could say. The Queen's 368 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:28,920 Speaker 4: Sundlakes District Council yesterday's declining maca's resource application to set 369 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:33,399 Speaker 4: up in Warnica. So that ends the controversy within the 370 00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:37,919 Speaker 4: town for now. Anyway, where locals strongly pushed back against 371 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:41,720 Speaker 4: this planned restaurant, which was going to be set up 372 00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:44,480 Speaker 4: at the Mountain Iron round about, the big entrance to Wantakah, 373 00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:47,800 Speaker 4: and more than three hundred and sixty public submissions were made. 374 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:51,080 Speaker 4: Only twenty one of those were in support, look many 375 00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:53,960 Speaker 4: saying it was more the location than a McDonald's restaurant 376 00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:57,359 Speaker 4: that they were opposing, Others citing concerns about food waste 377 00:20:57,359 --> 00:21:00,680 Speaker 4: and pollution McDonald's. They say that on our can considering the. 378 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:05,359 Speaker 2: Next steps and the weather today and eden Callum. 379 00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:07,280 Speaker 4: Mostly cloudy, fine breaks this afternoon though light wins and 380 00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:08,400 Speaker 4: a high of twenty. 381 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:10,800 Speaker 2: Lovely good to hear Claire Sherwood is with us in 382 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:13,520 Speaker 2: christ Church and so good news Claire. A lower than 383 00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:16,120 Speaker 2: forecast rates increases on the card for christ Church. 384 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:18,760 Speaker 12: That's why would you want to be anywhere? Our Sililk 385 00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:22,119 Speaker 12: City Councilors have adopted our draft to annual plan in 386 00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:25,840 Speaker 12: a fourteen to four vote. Now the initial proposed average 387 00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:29,280 Speaker 12: rates increase of eight point four eight percent has lowered 388 00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:32,440 Speaker 12: down to seven point five eight percent, although next year 389 00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:35,480 Speaker 12: is looking a bit groom. It's leaped to a forecast 390 00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:38,639 Speaker 12: ten point four Now. Deputy Mayor Pauline Cotter was one 391 00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:42,000 Speaker 12: who voted in Favy yesterday. She did, though express discomfort 392 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:45,160 Speaker 12: at this looming hike for next year. She acknowledges it's 393 00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:47,959 Speaker 12: a good year to ease financial pressure for rate payers, 394 00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:50,720 Speaker 12: but hopes the economy will be better next year. She 395 00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:53,360 Speaker 12: does say that everyone wants to keep the increases low, 396 00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:55,439 Speaker 12: but the council also needs to be able to deliver 397 00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:59,280 Speaker 12: on services. Public consultation on this rise and the draft 398 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:03,600 Speaker 12: annual plan in full will begin February twenty six. And 399 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:06,439 Speaker 12: the weather today clear fine today, some light ones and 400 00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:08,240 Speaker 12: sea breezes and a high of twenty one. 401 00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:10,800 Speaker 2: Thank you so much, and we're off to Wellington Max 402 00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:14,919 Speaker 2: Holes with us. Good morning, Good morning. So pedestrianizing the 403 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:16,720 Speaker 2: central city is going to take a while. 404 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:20,920 Speaker 7: Yeah, this is the Golden Mile roading project to revamp 405 00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:23,159 Speaker 7: the backbone of the central city from Lampton Key to 406 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:27,200 Speaker 7: Courtney Place. The mayor gave an announcement yesterday morning embargoed 407 00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:30,399 Speaker 7: until today for some reason, that that work is effectively 408 00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:33,040 Speaker 7: going to start in April, but it won't be on 409 00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:36,600 Speaker 7: the Golden Mile itself. Instead, eight months of construction work 410 00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:39,800 Speaker 7: just on an intersection at the top of Courtney Place 411 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:43,520 Speaker 7: just so the Golden Mile can go ahead. It'll then 412 00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:46,560 Speaker 7: take two years of construction to fulfill a design that 413 00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:51,119 Speaker 7: was also unveiled yesterday morning, involving non slippery pavements, clearer 414 00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:54,439 Speaker 7: cycle and bus lanes, plants and foliage. It was not 415 00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:57,400 Speaker 7: announced though, that businesses are going to receive any tangible 416 00:22:57,600 --> 00:23:00,600 Speaker 7: financial support so they can survive through this period. They've 417 00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:04,880 Speaker 7: been crying out for help, somewhat akin to Auckland's targeted 418 00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:07,800 Speaker 7: hardship fund related to the City rail Link not to 419 00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:11,240 Speaker 7: be here. This is, of course Tory Fino's legacy project. 420 00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:13,240 Speaker 7: It's the only big thing left. We have a local 421 00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:16,960 Speaker 7: election in October and the timelines mean there's the very 422 00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:19,720 Speaker 7: real chance that work on the Golden Mile itself won't 423 00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:21,560 Speaker 7: have even started during her mayoralty. 424 00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:24,360 Speaker 2: Max Wellington's weather today. 425 00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:27,720 Speaker 7: Another lovely one. Fine Southerley's twenty three central. 426 00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:29,720 Speaker 2: Thank you so much. Michael Sergle is with me in 427 00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:31,800 Speaker 2: the Auckland studio. Good morning, good morning, but have you 428 00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:32,399 Speaker 2: got for ustaing? 429 00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:32,920 Speaker 9: Yeah. 430 00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:36,440 Speaker 13: Car insurance premiums just keep getting more expensive. So we've 431 00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:39,600 Speaker 13: heard lots about home and contents insurance, but quote the 432 00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:43,200 Speaker 13: comprehensive car insurance on comparison website Quashed have written forty 433 00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:46,440 Speaker 13: one percent to two years quotes for home and contents 434 00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:49,600 Speaker 13: up thirty one percent. We're also seeing lots of variation 435 00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:52,920 Speaker 13: between providers, So take for example a twenty twenty Toyota 436 00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:56,879 Speaker 13: Corolla in Auckland. A comprehensive policy could range from anything 437 00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:59,800 Speaker 13: from nine sixty to seventeen ninety. That's almost a sort 438 00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:03,440 Speaker 13: of an ninety difference. Adjusting excess and so insured could 439 00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:06,200 Speaker 13: cut premiums by up to a third. Switching to third party, 440 00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:09,000 Speaker 13: fire and theft could cut premiums by almost two thirds. 441 00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:12,480 Speaker 13: And Quash says it's been getting lots of people investigating 442 00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:16,240 Speaker 13: cheaper options like reducing their coverage or switching to third partner. 443 00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:18,199 Speaker 2: Yeah, you'd understand why you'd be doing that, wouldn't you? 444 00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:20,879 Speaker 2: Tell me about the weather and open today. 445 00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:23,320 Speaker 13: Mainly find possible showers in the south and north this afternoon, 446 00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:24,520 Speaker 13: twenty sixth high. 447 00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:26,640 Speaker 2: Lovely, Thank you so much, Michael. Next up, we are 448 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:29,080 Speaker 2: off to the US. It is seventeen to six. 449 00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:33,399 Speaker 1: International correspondence with Ends and Eye Insurance Peace of mind 450 00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:35,679 Speaker 1: for New Zealand business. 451 00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:40,119 Speaker 2: Joining us now from the US is Mitch McCann. 452 00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:43,000 Speaker 11: Good morning, Mitch, Good morning, Francesca, how are you. 453 00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:45,760 Speaker 2: I'm very good. Thank you. So Elon Musk and President 454 00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:49,400 Speaker 2: Trump had an appearance in the Oval Office together and 455 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:52,720 Speaker 2: Elon Musk was having to defend his transparency when it 456 00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:55,040 Speaker 2: comes to his government cost cutting initiative. 457 00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:58,600 Speaker 11: Yeah, much has been made of Elon Musk's new role 458 00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:01,440 Speaker 11: in the White House. He's leading it's called the DOGE 459 00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:05,480 Speaker 11: Department or the Department of Government Efficiency. Essentially, his job 460 00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:09,000 Speaker 11: is to root out waste and find where money is 461 00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:12,400 Speaker 11: being spent where it shouldn't and get rid of those jobs, 462 00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:14,760 Speaker 11: get rid of people, find out what's going on. But 463 00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:17,480 Speaker 11: there's a lot of criticism about his job that it's 464 00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:20,000 Speaker 11: been done in secrecy. People don't know who he's hired, 465 00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:24,280 Speaker 11: what access he has to Americans financial data. And he 466 00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:26,560 Speaker 11: helped this press conference with Donald Trump yesterday at the 467 00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:28,600 Speaker 11: White House. It was kind of strange because it just 468 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:32,240 Speaker 11: went on and on while while Elon Musk was trying 469 00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:34,359 Speaker 11: to wrangle his son, who eventually he put on his 470 00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:37,160 Speaker 11: shoulders and spoke to the press for about half an hour. Now, 471 00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:40,560 Speaker 11: he defended his job. He said that Donald Trump campaigned 472 00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:42,760 Speaker 11: on getting rid of government waste, and he said the 473 00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:45,840 Speaker 11: people voted for major reform, and that's what they're going 474 00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:47,960 Speaker 11: to get. He said, it's what democracy is all about. 475 00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:51,760 Speaker 11: He said he fully expects to be scrutinized. And Donald 476 00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:54,480 Speaker 11: Trump said that if there's any issues around a conflict 477 00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:57,800 Speaker 11: of interest because Elon Musk's companies get billions of dollars 478 00:25:57,800 --> 00:26:00,680 Speaker 11: from the government in grants, then Donald Trump will move 479 00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:03,240 Speaker 11: from away from whatever issue that is on to another 480 00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:08,639 Speaker 11: one to try and create this perceived transparency. But you know, 481 00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:11,560 Speaker 11: a lot of people here are confused about what Elon 482 00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:14,199 Speaker 11: Musk's actual role is and what he's doing in the 483 00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:14,960 Speaker 11: federal government. 484 00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:18,200 Speaker 2: And just quickly match, the US announces its position on 485 00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:19,080 Speaker 2: the Ukraine. 486 00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:22,560 Speaker 11: Yeah, that's right. Pete Higseth is the Defense secretary here 487 00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:25,280 Speaker 11: in the US. He's been at a meeting this morning 488 00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:28,760 Speaker 11: of other leaders around Europe to talk about Ukraine, and 489 00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:31,320 Speaker 11: he said this, we want, like you, a sovereign and 490 00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:35,560 Speaker 11: prosperous Ukraine, but we must start by recognizing that returning 491 00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:40,439 Speaker 11: to Ukraine's pre twenty fourteen borders is an unrealistic objective. 492 00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:42,959 Speaker 11: So really that is a new position or a new 493 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:45,720 Speaker 11: position there from the United States, saying that getting back 494 00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:48,600 Speaker 11: to you know, full liberation Ukraine what it used to 495 00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:51,520 Speaker 11: be is not a realistic proposition. So that is new 496 00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:53,359 Speaker 11: from the White House and we're going to see if 497 00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:55,280 Speaker 11: Donald Trump's going to make any more comments on that 498 00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:57,399 Speaker 11: in the coming hours, which he possibly will. 499 00:26:57,760 --> 00:27:02,960 Speaker 2: Mitch McCann, thank you very much for the update, Zibby. 500 00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:07,520 Speaker 2: It is at twelve to six. Now, the fishing industry 501 00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:10,800 Speaker 2: is welcoming a proposed major shakeup of the Fisheries Act. 502 00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:14,440 Speaker 2: It would see a loosening of catch regulations and restrict 503 00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:17,879 Speaker 2: who can access camera footage from fishing boats, meaning only 504 00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:20,760 Speaker 2: MPI and the courts would have access to the footage. 505 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:24,880 Speaker 2: Keith Morson as a fisherman and owner of Eggmont Seafoods 506 00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:27,399 Speaker 2: in New Plymouth, and he joins me now thank you 507 00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:27,880 Speaker 2: for your time. 508 00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:31,720 Speaker 14: Keith, good morning, Good morning, Francesca Hey, is this a 509 00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:39,359 Speaker 14: win for you? Look, this has been in the something 510 00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:42,040 Speaker 14: that the industry has been wanting to get addressed for 511 00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:43,960 Speaker 14: a long period of time. You know, they're quite a 512 00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:48,040 Speaker 14: management system has been in force now for nearly forty years, 513 00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:52,880 Speaker 14: but we've had a real change in technology on our vessels, 514 00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:57,919 Speaker 14: the amount of transparency that we have and you know, 515 00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:00,960 Speaker 14: there's a lot of technology that the fishermen are dealing 516 00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:05,920 Speaker 14: with these days, so the regulations of the Fisheries Act 517 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:09,560 Speaker 14: needs to take into account the changes that we've had 518 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:13,960 Speaker 14: within the industry. So you know, the changes that are 519 00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:18,560 Speaker 14: being recommended or that are being addressed in this discussion 520 00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:21,760 Speaker 14: paper are certainly things that we've been having to deal 521 00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:22,960 Speaker 14: with for a long period of time. 522 00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:26,120 Speaker 2: Keith, the catching regulations are they holding you back? 523 00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:32,480 Speaker 14: Look, it's really complex. The catching regulations that we're having 524 00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:35,080 Speaker 14: to deal with on a day to day basis make 525 00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:38,000 Speaker 14: it really difficult for the guys on the water and 526 00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:43,360 Speaker 14: also for the land based operators as well. So I 527 00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:48,080 Speaker 14: think this will simplify and make it easier for both 528 00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:51,560 Speaker 14: the harvesters on the water and the operators on land 529 00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:54,600 Speaker 14: to be able to get on and do their business. 530 00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:57,800 Speaker 2: What do you think about anyone being able to access 531 00:28:57,840 --> 00:28:59,120 Speaker 2: footage from boats? 532 00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:05,880 Speaker 14: Yeah, Look, I know that people want and there's certainly 533 00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:09,080 Speaker 14: been some bad press around the fresh fishing industry for 534 00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:12,400 Speaker 14: a long period of time, but we're in a really 535 00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:18,280 Speaker 14: heavily regulated environment and it's very transparent what we do 536 00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:21,080 Speaker 14: on a day to day basis. A lot of these 537 00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:23,960 Speaker 14: fishermen are out on the water for three, four or 538 00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:27,240 Speaker 14: five days at a time, living on those vessels. To 539 00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:34,400 Speaker 14: have footage of those operations available to the general public, 540 00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:40,000 Speaker 14: you know, I just don't think that that should necessarily, 541 00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:43,640 Speaker 14: you know, just just be as visible as people would 542 00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:47,440 Speaker 14: like it to be. You know, the regulators certainly have 543 00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:50,920 Speaker 14: access to that information, and they can see what fishermen 544 00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:54,520 Speaker 14: are doing, where they're doing it, how they're doing it, 545 00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:58,360 Speaker 14: and I just don't know that that's something that should 546 00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:02,280 Speaker 14: be available to the general public. It could be taken 547 00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:07,560 Speaker 14: out of context if they clip or take certain parts 548 00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:10,920 Speaker 14: of a fishing activity, and we've seen that play out 549 00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:15,360 Speaker 14: in the past sometimes with NGOs. So no, I don't 550 00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:20,200 Speaker 14: think that the footage that our fishermen are supplying is 551 00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:22,800 Speaker 14: necessarily something that should be in the public. 552 00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:24,040 Speaker 9: Donay kaith, Can I. 553 00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:26,760 Speaker 2: Just go back to catching regulations for a moment. Loosening 554 00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:30,360 Speaker 2: the catch regulations? Would that be quite area specific? 555 00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:37,920 Speaker 14: Look, it's like I said, it's really complex. For example, 556 00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:42,200 Speaker 14: you have some fish species that have got minimum legal 557 00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:46,400 Speaker 14: sizes snapper, tero key. You've got other species that haven't 558 00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:50,160 Speaker 14: got minimum legal sizes. So if you have a small snapper, 559 00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:53,520 Speaker 14: you can return that to the seed. Legally, if you 560 00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:57,280 Speaker 14: have a small gernered, you're required to bring that back in, 561 00:30:57,560 --> 00:31:02,200 Speaker 14: so it's not necessarily a listening of the regulations. It's 562 00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:06,120 Speaker 14: just providing the ability for the fishermen to make some 563 00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:13,760 Speaker 14: decisions around what species they should be bringing in from 564 00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:18,960 Speaker 14: an economic point of view. But whilst they are harvested, 565 00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:21,720 Speaker 14: they are still going to be recording all of their 566 00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:26,560 Speaker 14: cats against quota, so there's not there their sustainability. So 567 00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:33,800 Speaker 14: it's just about simplifying their ability to operate and return 568 00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:36,680 Speaker 14: fist to the sea. If it has no real economic value, 569 00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:39,760 Speaker 14: there's no sense in bringing in small gerner that's just 570 00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:42,000 Speaker 14: going to end up in landfill. It's better off to 571 00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:43,600 Speaker 14: be returned to the sea and go back in the 572 00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:44,160 Speaker 14: food chain. 573 00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:46,280 Speaker 2: Okay, thank you very much for your time in talking 574 00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:48,360 Speaker 2: us through that. That was Keith Morson. He's a fisherman 575 00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:51,360 Speaker 2: and owner of Eggmant Seafoods in New Plymouth. It is 576 00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:53,560 Speaker 2: seven to six on your. 577 00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:58,040 Speaker 1: Radio and online on iHeartRadio. Earlier this year with one 578 00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:00,640 Speaker 1: roof make your Property Search Simple. 579 00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:03,959 Speaker 2: New Talk said be coming up at six am as 580 00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:08,600 Speaker 2: Mike Hosking on the Mike Hosking Breakfast and it joins me. Now, 581 00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:09,720 Speaker 2: good morning, greetings. 582 00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:13,560 Speaker 10: Did I detect in your voice an element of interest 583 00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:16,320 Speaker 10: in the business of the media merger in your interview? 584 00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:16,560 Speaker 1: Did I? 585 00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:19,200 Speaker 2: Yes? So he talking about the film commission. 586 00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:21,560 Speaker 10: Yes, here's your red flag. So as far as I 587 00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:23,600 Speaker 10: can work out, so merging New Zealand on air with 588 00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:25,800 Speaker 10: a film commission is like a stroke of a pen. 589 00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:27,880 Speaker 10: Anyone can do that, and that's you know, it might work, 590 00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:28,600 Speaker 10: it might be better off. 591 00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:30,080 Speaker 2: We're not very good at media mergers in this. 592 00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:32,040 Speaker 10: Game, no we're not. But having said that, if you 593 00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:34,520 Speaker 10: can do that as a government, that's my point being 594 00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:37,880 Speaker 10: that Paul Goldsmith, from my view, doesn't seem particularly interested 595 00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:40,440 Speaker 10: in his portfolio. There's a lot of concern in the 596 00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:42,720 Speaker 10: media about what's going on and what could happen and 597 00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:44,800 Speaker 10: might not happen and so on. He just doesn't seem 598 00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:48,000 Speaker 10: that interested. The moment you get involved with any stream 599 00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:50,960 Speaker 10: international and this goes back to things like the news 600 00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:54,360 Speaker 10: deal and then paying us money for the stories day, 601 00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:56,680 Speaker 10: all of that stuff. The moment you get involved in 602 00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:59,880 Speaker 10: those people, nothing, nothing happens, nothing changes, and it's never happened. 603 00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:02,880 Speaker 10: We're in the world. No one has successfully managed to 604 00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:05,120 Speaker 10: drag people to the table and say give me some 605 00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:08,240 Speaker 10: money because they don't need us. We're a tiny little 606 00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:09,360 Speaker 10: country at the bottom of the world. 607 00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:12,960 Speaker 2: I wonder though, whether we can definitely just things need 608 00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:15,239 Speaker 2: to be revitalized. That that's the point. And you've got 609 00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:18,200 Speaker 2: the industry saying, actually, we've looked at this discussion document 610 00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:20,680 Speaker 2: that has been put out and they've listened to us. 611 00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:23,160 Speaker 2: They understand the concerns, they're addressing them. So actually the 612 00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:24,960 Speaker 2: industry themselves is pretty fantastic. 613 00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:27,080 Speaker 10: Let them sit around and talk about it till they're. 614 00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:28,520 Speaker 2: Bloom in the I think you're right. 615 00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:29,120 Speaker 11: I think. 616 00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:32,600 Speaker 2: Mister Gosmith is very much putting it out there and going, 617 00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:35,120 Speaker 2: will you guys sort this out? You can't tell me, 618 00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:37,400 Speaker 2: you will tell me how to sort this out. Wilson's 619 00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:38,160 Speaker 2: such a bad thing. 620 00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:41,520 Speaker 10: Bring me when Netflix go what an excellent idea? How 621 00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:44,040 Speaker 10: much money would you like me to invest in? I mean, 622 00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:44,959 Speaker 10: come on, here's the thing. 623 00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:47,280 Speaker 2: We actually sell a lot of New Zealand of course 624 00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:49,800 Speaker 2: productions we sell on heaps of the moment six. We 625 00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:51,560 Speaker 2: just want to be selling them to streaming services. 626 00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:54,719 Speaker 10: Nothing wrong with that. I'll tell all tell you what 627 00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:56,360 Speaker 10: if we make something that's good. 628 00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:58,560 Speaker 2: Because it's the way that you know, watching a look at. 629 00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:00,280 Speaker 10: That and go tell you what I need some I 630 00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:01,200 Speaker 10: wouldn't mind buying that. 631 00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:04,680 Speaker 2: But if you watch Netflix, how much crap is on Netflix? 632 00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:07,080 Speaker 2: How often are you going? I've given that ten minutes, 633 00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:08,560 Speaker 2: moving on, moving on. 634 00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:11,040 Speaker 10: And so if we produce enough good product, surely they're 635 00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:12,880 Speaker 10: going to buy it, aren't They as opposed to a 636 00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:16,239 Speaker 10: government interfering in the marketplace and trying to convince them 637 00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:17,880 Speaker 10: to do something they may or may not. 638 00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:19,719 Speaker 2: Well, but apparently we want to, you know, have more 639 00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:23,840 Speaker 2: efficient government departments. And so we'll talk more about loving it. 640 00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:26,800 Speaker 2: Mike Hosking is with you next Seed tomorrow morning. 641 00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:33,040 Speaker 1: For more from Early Edition with Ryan Bridge. Listen live 642 00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:36,160 Speaker 1: to News Talks. 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