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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack Tames podcast

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Speaker 1: from News Talks at me.

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Speaker 2: From the very first moment I looked in your eyes,

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Speaker 2: it saw me bout our love as you stand in

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Speaker 2: the maid you hold in the hands of the new

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Speaker 2: little light, that shoe me you brought me by calling.

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Speaker 2: I started to pray you held me in crossing so sweet,

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Speaker 2: lot of biddies, when I started running, I know I

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Speaker 2: was running here the start of the stormy of everything.

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Speaker 3: I'll have it be.

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Speaker 2: My mama and me time passing by.

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Speaker 3: That is Mitch James, Mama and me. And it's a

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Speaker 3: bit of a sort of sad day for Mitch James.

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Speaker 3: Fancy a celebration. I suppose he's performing his last show tonight.

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Speaker 3: It's gonna be in Christich's town Hall, and you know

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Speaker 3: it sort of brings to an end a pretty extraordinary

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Speaker 3: decade or so slightly more. I suppose performing around the world,

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Speaker 3: hundreds of millions of streams. Mitch James has achieved so much,

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Speaker 3: but he's not happy with things at the moment. So

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Speaker 3: Stelle Clifford Music Reviewers with us this morning. Stelle, We're

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Speaker 3: going to have a bit of a listen to Mitch's album.

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Speaker 3: This is not what I had in mind named this

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Speaker 3: is not what I had in mind. In a couple

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Speaker 3: of minutes, but yeah, talk to us about why this

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Speaker 3: is not what Mitch had in mind.

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Speaker 4: I think this is the perfect example of you, like,

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Speaker 4: do that hard graft at the start. Yeah, you decide

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Speaker 4: to go overseas, you do some couch surfing with your guitar,

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Speaker 4: your plavery gig known to man, and then suddenly you

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Speaker 4: get this contract and the whoolwind begins. You're releasing songs

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Speaker 4: number one, you're nominated for Song of the Year, you

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Speaker 4: are winning MTV europe Music Awards, and it's just right

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Speaker 4: in that rock and roll lifestyle, right, and it's all

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Speaker 4: full on. But then there's the business behind that. And

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Speaker 4: when you've signed up to a big label, they've got expectations,

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Speaker 4: they've got processes, and you become part of that.

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Speaker 3: You become a business, you become part of the machine.

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Speaker 4: You do and business and creative is always this real

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Speaker 4: fine line of how that works, right. I think that

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Speaker 4: sometimes it really quash squashes a person's creativity processes. I

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Speaker 4: think that often you're signed as an artist because that's

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Speaker 4: what you've got and that's what they love. But you know,

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Speaker 4: there's an evolution of a person, there's an evolution of

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Speaker 4: an artist, and I think sometimes those contracts feel like

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Speaker 4: they're keeping them inside a square, inside the box, and

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Speaker 4: I think he just wanted to branch out from that. Also, shoot,

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Speaker 4: its hard graft to make money and music and there's

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Speaker 4: just to pay in life to live.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's crazy. So I mean, he has had

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Speaker 3: more than three hundred million streams online and the people

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Speaker 3: who think if you're getting three hundred million streams, you

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Speaker 3: should be sorted, you should be set, that's not even

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Speaker 3: less even.

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Speaker 4: Less right, because the companies take the money. And again

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Speaker 4: that's just so hard on the creative industries. That needs

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Speaker 4: to change. Something needs to happen there because someone's definitely

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Speaker 4: filling their pockets, but it's often not the artists. The

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Speaker 4: artist is way down the chain of people who get paid.

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Speaker 4: And I mean even for an independent artist, because Mitch has,

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Speaker 4: you know, through his career ended up going independent and

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Speaker 4: then he's jumped on board with six sixties label for

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Speaker 4: this final album. But there's you know, it's still is

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Speaker 4: hard and all you have to be touring constantly to

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Speaker 4: be on the road like twenty four to seven and

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Speaker 4: how do you live a life around that?

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Speaker 2: Too?

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Speaker 4: And I think he's just, you know, like he's checked himself.

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Speaker 4: And I think it's hard to park the ego sometimes

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Speaker 4: of loving that, you know, and you love that thrill

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Speaker 4: of people in a live setting and loving new music,

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Speaker 4: and the response is yet, but to park that, he

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Speaker 4: go and go It's okay for me to do something else.

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Speaker 4: I can still love this and be this, but I'm

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Speaker 4: actually also going to do something else that makes me

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Speaker 4: feel passionate and happy. I spect that so.

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Speaker 3: Much, Yeah, because it's really hard thing to do.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And I think that he needs to remember just

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Speaker 4: because he's not doing it right now or he's not

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Speaker 4: going to continue doing it for a while, it'll always

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Speaker 4: it's always him. It's always going to be a part

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Speaker 4: of him, and it maybe will come and go in

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Speaker 4: different ways. All those skills will become so useful for

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Speaker 4: budding to me, you know, Like, I think I hope

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Speaker 4: that he's excited too. I imagine tonight's show is going

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Speaker 4: to be a little bit like that Mamma and Me

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Speaker 4: song where it's like so tender and beautiful and vulnerable

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Speaker 4: and it makes you want to cry, but you also

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Speaker 4: kind of want to laugh through life's journey. And I

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Speaker 4: saw a couple of days ago they released about fifty

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Speaker 4: more standing tickets for the town Hall in christ Church. Okay,

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Speaker 4: I dare say they're gone. Yeah, it's going to be

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Speaker 4: packed out to the to the broom. And you know

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Speaker 4: this this album is such a You listen to it

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Speaker 4: and you're like, why would you leave now? But isn't

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Speaker 4: it also great to leave on such a high? And

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Speaker 4: this is definitely some songs he's put together that he

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Speaker 4: loves that it's his artistry where it's all those tender,

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Speaker 4: vulnerable storytelling lyrics that he's renowned for that very relatable

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Speaker 4: because they're just life stories. I hope there's no showies

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Speaker 4: on stage tonight, Mitch James, but look that was that

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Speaker 4: was a phase also in some of your live shows.

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Speaker 4: But there'll be those moments too, right Yeah, And I think, yeah,

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Speaker 4: he's got some really cool songs, but this album just

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Speaker 4: captures all of those things that he's been as an artist.

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Speaker 4: It's really clever actually to have these eight final songs.

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Speaker 4: There are all of it. There's also a party song

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Speaker 4: which I know you're going to play a bit of

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Speaker 4: real soon called the Lads, and it summarizes what I

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Speaker 4: mentioned tonight is going to be. We're here for a

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Speaker 4: short time, that a long time, here for some fun,

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Speaker 4: you know, poor, some.

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Speaker 3: Drinks, some mischief, hands of the.

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Speaker 4: Cheeky too. And I like that he meant to get

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Speaker 4: that personality out and his music. I've really enjoyed listening

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Speaker 4: to this album. It's fun, it's a real It almost

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Speaker 4: doesn't feel like a full stop, but I totally get that.

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Speaker 4: It's a great place to also go. Check out this

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Speaker 4: Last Firing album. If you haven't seen the music video

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Speaker 4: for Mama and Me that you just played, he did

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Speaker 4: this real setup where he was taking his mum into

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Speaker 4: this hall to say, I'm going to show you the

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Speaker 4: music video for the first time. It was actually the

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Speaker 4: Danida and Symphony Orchestra and him. They sat her down

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Speaker 4: and they made the music video right there and he's

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Speaker 4: saying it to her. I cannot watch that video without

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Speaker 4: tearing up.

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Speaker 2: It is so nice.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 4: And I love that too. Here's a guy showing all

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Speaker 4: his feelings and there will be all of those tonight

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Speaker 4: at that gig if you're lucky enough to go along

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Speaker 4: to it. But you'll feel it in this album too,

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Speaker 4: So if you're not at the gig, it doesn't matter.

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Speaker 4: Listen to this album. Lyrics are beautiful, fully committed, his

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Speaker 4: vocals are really great. Heat to catchy riffs. You know

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Speaker 4: he's gonna of songs now that are going to go

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Speaker 4: on the charts. Yeah yeah, and you'll go off and

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Speaker 4: do something else. And I and I think that's really

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Speaker 4: it's kind of funny.

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Speaker 3: So what did you give it?

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Speaker 2: What do you give it?

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Speaker 3: This is not what I had in mind by Mitch Jane.

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Speaker 4: Let's just see the mountain.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, go on, go on.

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Speaker 3: You can hardly say a seven, right, yeah?

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah yeah, ten?

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah no, very good.

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Speaker 4: That's good.

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Speaker 3: All right, Well, have a bit more of a listen

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Speaker 3: to a couple of minutes forget that the lads song

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Speaker 3: that you recommend. Thank you so much of Stellasure. Stelle

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Speaker 3: Cliff is our music reviewer ten out of ten. But

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Speaker 3: this is not what I had in mind. And if

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Speaker 3: you're lucky enough to be going along to the christ

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Speaker 3: Church Town Hall this evening to see Mitch perform his

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Speaker 3: last show, make sure you have an awesome time.

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