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Speaker 3: Yard A, good morning, Welcome to news Talks V Jack

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Speaker 3: Taane with you in the hot seat through to midday today.

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Speaker 3: Before you ask, no, no, nope, nope, nope, no nope,

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Speaker 3: not yet. No baby, no baby just yet. But what

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Speaker 3: we are lacking in babies, I'm pleased for report we

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Speaker 3: are making up with fresh super rugby action. My goodness,

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Speaker 3: I feel kind of torn as a Crusaders fan because

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Speaker 3: last night was fantastic, wonderful game of rugby Crusaders Hurricanes.

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Speaker 3: Great to see the Crusaders get up, unless, of course,

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Speaker 3: you are familiar with Crusader's history and all the train

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Speaker 3: spots out there will know that for many of our

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Speaker 3: title winning seasons, the first game of the season the

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Speaker 3: Crusaders have actually lost, So I don't want to celebrate

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Speaker 3: it too hard at this stage. Anyway, we'll catch up

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Speaker 3: with our sport. I get his thoughts on the opening

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Speaker 3: for Super Rugby twenty twenty five very shortly as well

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Speaker 3: as that before ten o'clock, going to take Your Life

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Speaker 3: to meet Stock and our feature interview After ten o'clock

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Speaker 3: she is back in New Zealand. Something tells me she

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Speaker 3: won't be at meat Stock today, but it could be wrong.

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Speaker 3: Rachel Hunter is going to be with us. I cannot

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Speaker 3: wait for that right now, it's eight minutes past nine.

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Speaker 2: Jack Team.

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Speaker 3: Well, I suppose it was inevitable that something would go wrong.

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Speaker 3: It wasn't like the new school lunch providers all had

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Speaker 3: the opportunity to ease into their work. You know, they

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Speaker 3: didn't do a huge practice run or slowly build up

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Speaker 3: capacity over time. For most of them, it was a

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Speaker 3: case of going from zero to one hundred day one

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Speaker 3: of the school year, and they had to be zipping

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Speaker 3: along in fifth gear. And you know, all you needed

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Speaker 3: were a couple of photos of a few mishits word

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Speaker 3: of a few schools with missing lunches, and news spread

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Speaker 3: on social media in a way that blunders never would

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Speaker 3: have under the last school lunch regime. And don't mean

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Speaker 3: it makes sense right I think about it. Last year,

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Speaker 3: all anyone, any parent, any educator, any school had to

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Speaker 3: compare school lunches to was the previous regime when schools

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Speaker 3: were provided with nothing. Now, well now there's a different precedent.

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Speaker 3: And if we're honest, you know, if we're totally honest,

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Speaker 3: there is a bit of a political dimension at play somewhere,

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Speaker 3: isn't there. David Seymour is so attached to the school

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Speaker 3: lunch funding cuts, but he's all rising figure, especially in

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Speaker 3: educational communities, and just as he's happy to soak up

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Speaker 3: political support for being the guy making the funding cuts,

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Speaker 3: I'm sure there are more than a few educators out

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Speaker 3: there who are quietly willing David Seymour to fail. All

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Speaker 3: that being said, I don't think anyone who has seen

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Speaker 3: the kind of examples of some of the stodgy offerings

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Speaker 3: has has also been the case, could possibly argue with

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Speaker 3: the young students who have reportedly been comparing their school

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Speaker 3: lunches with dog food. It's funny I was listening to

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Speaker 3: Newstalks He'd the other day when someone said that presentation

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Speaker 3: doesn't matter. It's simple the kids don't eat the meals.

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Speaker 3: When if it's simple, if the kids don't eat the meals,

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Speaker 3: then they really can't be that hungry. I mean, for

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Speaker 3: anyone who's actually spent time around children, they'll know just

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Speaker 3: how naive and misguided that is. Sure, if we were

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Speaker 3: in the midst of a full blown famine, then you

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Speaker 3: might reasonably expect kids to eat any old slop. But

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Speaker 3: mercifully we are not in a famine, and actually, hungry

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Speaker 3: kids don't always act rationally. Most young children would prefer

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Speaker 3: to eat a tray of dog food. You probably would too.

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Speaker 3: Presentation matters. It's funny. I was discussing it with a

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Speaker 3: really annoys him because it should be parents responsibility to

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Speaker 3: feed their children, not the New Zealand taxpayer. Sure, I said, yeah,

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Speaker 3: in a perfect world, I totally agree. But unfortunately, in

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Speaker 3: case you haven't noticed, this, ain't it For whatever reason,

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Speaker 3: there are thousands and thousands of kids who, without school lunches,

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Speaker 3: would not be eating three square meals a day. Even

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Speaker 3: if you think it is all the parents' fault in

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Speaker 3: every single case, none of those can can choose their

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Speaker 3: thing I think risks being lost in this whole episode.

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Speaker 3: Full ballies aren't just good for the kids who would

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Speaker 3: At a moment in time when our government is literally

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Speaker 3: soliciting for ideas to drive economic growth, there are few

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Speaker 3: things that will drive our future productivity in this country

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Speaker 3: like better educational achievement. Kids who are hungry do not learn.

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Speaker 3: An investment in a full belly today is an investment

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Speaker 3: in growth in twenty years time. It's an investment in skills,

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Speaker 3: in businesses, in innovation. The new school lunch program is

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Speaker 3: off to a lumpy start literally in many cases, and look,

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Speaker 3: teething issues were inevitable. I really hope it'll improve, but

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Speaker 3: I can tell you this much. For all the concern

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Speaker 3: over the state of the book, the savings made from

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Speaker 3: the school lunch program are worth nothing if the kids

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Speaker 3: don't eat. Jack Team two ninety two is our text number.

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Speaker 3: If you want to see me a message this morning,

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Speaker 3: Jacket Newstalks, he'db dot co dot nz is the email address.

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Speaker 3: We've got your film picks before ten o'clock this morning.

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Speaker 3: And we have noticed a little bit of a theme

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Speaker 3: for a few films going around at the moment. Okay,

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Speaker 3: there's the one with Anne Hathaway, The Idea of You,

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Speaker 3: that is a film in which Anne Hathaway takes on

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Speaker 3: a much younger lover. There's that new one with Nicole

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Speaker 3: Kidman in which he's kind of doing the same thing.

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Speaker 3: And there's yet another film before ten o'clock. It's the

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Speaker 3: latest Bridget Jones, in which Bridget Jones, would you believe

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Speaker 3: falls for a younger man, a younger toy boy. So

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Speaker 3: that's at least three shows at the moment. I think

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Speaker 3: we can call that a trend, can't we. Kevin Milman

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Speaker 3: will be here next. I'm sure he's got thoughts on that.

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Speaker 3: Thirteen minutes past nine and I'm Jack Tayment Saturday Morning

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Speaker 2: He'd be a little bit of way to kick off

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Speaker 1: Then with Jack Saturday Mornings with Jack Team and bepured

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Speaker 3: Well, I think you for your feedback this Morninglanda says

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Speaker 3: to me, Jack, explain to me how all these starving

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Speaker 3: children manage to survive six to eight weeks of school holidays. Jack,

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Speaker 3: you just sound soft. Lazy parents could make children at

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Speaker 3: lunch and not complain about it. But they don't, Jack,

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Speaker 3: what were the kids eating over the eight weeks of holiday?

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Speaker 3: Who knows what they were eating. Who knows if they

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Speaker 3: were hungry or not. One thing that wasn't happening over

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Speaker 3: the holiday was they weren't being educated. The thing is

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Speaker 3: when kids are being educated, when they're sitting in classrooms,

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Speaker 3: they don't take information and they don't learn nearly as

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Speaker 3: well when they're hungry as they do when they're well fed.

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Speaker 3: And ultimately that's going to benefit all of us.

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Speaker 4: Jack.

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Speaker 3: We produce enough food in New Zealand to feed forty

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Speaker 3: million people. The hungry children aren't the problem. It's the

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Speaker 3: greed of the wealthy that cannot be satiated. Ninety two

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Speaker 3: email me as well. Of course, Kevin Milne is with

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Speaker 5: Kurra And you asked, how do I feel about all

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Speaker 5: these movies where they are women are looking for younger men.

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Speaker 4: Yes, one word nervous.

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Speaker 3: Oh come on, Kevin, you' and Lenda a rock solid,

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Speaker 4: I'd like to think that it is.

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Speaker 3: Doesn't mean there's a little bit of a theme, isn't it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah? You know, yeah, oh, well fair enough.

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Speaker 3: I mean I wonder what it is, because I wonder

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Speaker 3: don't know anyway, certainly one that we've noticed. So we're

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Speaker 3: new Bridget Jones film be fourteen o'clock this morning. But Kevin,

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Speaker 3: you're wanting to talk about childbirth yourself.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, well, I thought, given child birth that was on

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Speaker 5: your mind, Jack, i'd tell a story of one of

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Speaker 5: my own children's birth. It was the arrival of our

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Speaker 5: second child, Rory, at ParaPara Umu Hospital, one of those

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Speaker 5: gorgeous little maternity hospitals that no longer exists. The difficulty

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Speaker 5: the hospital with us at about midnight, and while Linda

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Speaker 5: little Alex and I were given another bed to get

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Speaker 5: some sleeping. But three year old Alex had no interest

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Speaker 5: about three am, and then the night nurse came up

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Speaker 5: with an idea.

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Speaker 4: Kids who always fall asleep in cars.

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Speaker 5: She said, why not tak him for a drive then

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Speaker 5: pop them back into the hospital bed once he's asleep.

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Speaker 5: So off we went in the car and Alex fell asleep.

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Speaker 5: We were driving past a closed service station on our

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Speaker 5: may now miss the birth of child. A cop car

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Speaker 5: drives through the service station on a routine nighttime check.

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Speaker 4: I run over. Excuse me, my car's broken down. Any change?

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Speaker 5: You could drive me a couple of keys back home

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Speaker 5: to pick up my wife's car.

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Speaker 4: Sure, they said.

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Speaker 5: Then they noticed they had a sleeping three year old

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Speaker 5: we're just gonna have to make a few checks. I

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Speaker 5: suspect they thought this was a domestic incident and I

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Speaker 5: was on the run with my child. I explained, my

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Speaker 5: I'd miss the birth of child. The cops were brilliant.

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Speaker 5: Strap the ladd into the back of our car, and

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Speaker 5: we'll get your home as quickly as possible.

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Speaker 4: And it was quick.

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Speaker 5: My little fellow had never felt speed like it, nor

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Speaker 5: had he ever felt more awake.

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Speaker 4: It was his first trip in a police car.

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Speaker 5: We picked up my wife's Morris eleven hundred, and I

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Speaker 5: our second son, three year old Alex. Never slept a

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Speaker 5: and eggs with the night nurse. Wow, so these things happen,

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Speaker 5: Funny things happen. I've got an endless array of of

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Speaker 5: birth and I'm sure all our listeners have them too.

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Speaker 3: The only things that happen, isn't that amazing? Like he

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Speaker 3: he will, you know, I'm sure he said at the time.

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Speaker 3: You know, even when said, oh my gosh, how do

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Speaker 3: you feel about having having a little sibling, and he

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Speaker 3: just said, oh, I got to go in a police cars.

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Speaker 3: Exactly why I got to go into a police car.

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Speaker 6: You know.

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Speaker 3: It's a dramatic enough night as it is, but you

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Speaker 3: can only imagine how exciting. It must have been for him.

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Speaker 5: Ay, it's so funny, isn't it that because it was

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Speaker 5: such good advice. Yeah, yeah, because kids do full of

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, So we've got Blues chiefs tonight. What are you

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Speaker 8: At four or five days time, they played Pakistan again

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Speaker 3: That's our sporto Andrew Saville. Now, before ten o'clock this morning,

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Speaker 3: got your film picks for this weekend. It's just after

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Speaker 2: Is the cord of.

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Speaker 9: Thing, the news you seem to look behind. I can

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Speaker 10: This like the.

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Speaker 3: This is Olivia Dean that songs called It isn't perfect

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Speaker 3: the new Bridget Jones film. Francisca Rudkin is our film reviewers.

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Speaker 3: She's with us this morning, killed a good morning. I

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Speaker 7: You've never seen a Bridget Jones.

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Speaker 3: I've never seen a Bridget oh jack Ah, Yeah, I just,

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Speaker 3: But there is a new Bridget Jones film out and

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Speaker 3: it's following well a bit of a what's become a

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Speaker 9: You just have to get late shouts is right, Oh

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Speaker 3: It's been four years.

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Speaker 12: You're actively a nun.

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Speaker 11: I've set you up on Tinder?

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Speaker 3: They always say that, they always say.

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Speaker 7: absolutely hilarious moment, and I think that's what we love

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Speaker 7: about Bridget. This film, though, takes a little bit of

434
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Speaker 7: a turn. It is a rom com, but it is

435
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Speaker 7: also about grief. I found it a little bit old

436
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Speaker 7: fashioned and its approach in this sense that some of

437
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Speaker 7: the lines were a bit nafs, some of the jokes

438
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Speaker 7: a bit cringey. I think if you love Bridget you'll

439
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Speaker 7: find it quite sort of familiar and comforting. I didn't

440
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Speaker 7: really feel like we were stepping into a twenty twenty

441
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Speaker 7: five Bridget, but there is this shift. There is a

442
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Speaker 7: shift talking about grief. So there's everything you'd expect from

443
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Speaker 7: a rom com. There's the comical meat cutes, there's crazy

444
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Speaker 7: supportive friends, there's misunderstandings, jokes about internet dating, you know,

445
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Speaker 7: lovely scene set with falling snow and grand gestures and

446
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Speaker 7: embarrassing situations. So everything you expect from a rom COM's there.

447
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Speaker 7: But they sort of take a bit of a turn here,

448
00:23:02,333 --> 00:23:05,253
Speaker 7: and it's kind of appropriate because Bridget is in her

449
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Speaker 7: middle age, she's been laid, she's got a couple of kids,

450
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Speaker 7: and Colin Firth, who plays Mark Darcy, has passed away

451
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Speaker 7: and this has caused a little bit of drama for

452
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Speaker 7: a lot of people because he's a much loved character.

453
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Speaker 7: So it's really about her, four years later, coping with

454
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Speaker 7: his death and moving on with life and her friends

455
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Speaker 7: are like, come on, Bridget, you've got to get out

456
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Speaker 7: and get on with this. It does actually look I

457
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Speaker 7: actually kind of welled up in this film. It does

458
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Speaker 7: have an emotional kind of kick to it. It is

459
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Speaker 7: quite moving. But I wasn't laughing like I used to

460
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Speaker 7: at a Bridget Jones film, although I did take my

461
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Speaker 7: brother and he laughed quite a lot. So it's not

462
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Speaker 7: necessarily a girl's night out. You could probably go and

463
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Speaker 7: watch this, But what I'm trying to say is it

464
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Speaker 7: didn't have the hilarity. It didn't make me laugh quite

465
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Speaker 7: as much. I just thought it was a part of it,

466
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Speaker 7: just a little bit laugh But it does have this

467
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Speaker 7: kind of new angle, this really moving part. But I

468
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Speaker 7: tell you, Hugh Grant and Emma Thompson saved the day.

469
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Speaker 7: They both star in this and they're in it briefly,

470
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Speaker 7: but they are absolutely brilliant and they did bring a

471
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Speaker 7: smile to my face and I had giggle, so they

472
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Speaker 7: kind of.

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Speaker 11: Saved the day.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Okay, so that's Bridget Jones made about the boy.

475
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Speaker 3: What what do you think about this theme? At the moment,

476
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Speaker 3: We're not overstating it right. There seems to be a

477
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Speaker 3: bit of a at the moment women with the younger men.

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Speaker 7: Well, yeah, I mean, to be honest with there's not

479
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Speaker 7: a huge amount of films based on Three Happened, Yeah,

480
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Speaker 7: I know. And also Emma Thompson, how I just mentioned

481
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Speaker 7: a couple of years ago, was in another great film

482
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Speaker 7: called Good Luck to Julio Grand You're true, true, but

483
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Speaker 7: I tend to think, you know, you know, women do

484
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Speaker 7: date younger men, and that's absolutely fine, But.

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Speaker 3: It just seems like there's a it's a it's a

486
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Speaker 3: sort of familiar narrative art at the moment.

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Speaker 7: Maybe it's a.

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Speaker 13: Little bit of a theme, but you know, maybe that's

489
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Speaker 13: just coming off the back of finally we're sort of

490
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Speaker 13: accepting that, you know, middle age actors and actresses and

491
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Speaker 13: lives can be just as interesting and complex and fascinating

492
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Speaker 13: as you know, a couple of young twenty year olds.

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Speaker 4: For yeah, no, very good.

494
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Speaker 3: Okay, So let's bridget Jones man about the boy it's

495
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Speaker 3: showing in cinemas at the moment, also showing in cinemas

496
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Speaker 3: something completely different. Let's have a listened to September fifth.

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Speaker 2: Ready, camera one, got it.

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Speaker 12: Good morning.

499
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Speaker 5: I'm Jim McKay speaking to you live from the Olympics

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Speaker 5: in Munich, West Germany.

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Speaker 12: So you want to bring in the Balatics? How about politics?

502
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Speaker 2: Spy mush, do you hear where I was going?

503
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Speaker 12: Sharts?

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Speaker 3: That is, of course the nineteen seventy two Munich Olympics,

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Speaker 3: synonymous with the hostage crisis involving the Israeli athletes tell

506
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Speaker 3: us about September five.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, So this is a really tense, well written, sharp

508
00:25:48,933 --> 00:25:52,653
Speaker 7: smart film. It's received an OSCAR nomination for Best Original

509
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Speaker 7: Screenplay in our cinemas at the moment, look at this

510
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Speaker 7: has been captured before on Film Munich, Steven Spielberg's film

511
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Speaker 7: and One Day in September, both, you know, both very

512
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Speaker 7: good films. This, though, was retold from the perspective of

513
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Speaker 7: the ABC, these sports crew who are in Munich to

514
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Speaker 7: broadcast the Olympics, who find themselves witnessing this terrible attack

515
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Speaker 7: and broadcasting it live, and the film doesn't take It's

516
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Speaker 7: not political statement actually, it's more a statement on the

517
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Speaker 7: voyeuristic nature of TV journalism and the difficulty of the

518
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Speaker 7: ethics involved in getting it right. So we're in a

519
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Speaker 7: world where there's no cell phones, using landlines and walkie talkies,

520
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Speaker 7: we're using. You know, you're shooting on film, which needs

521
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Speaker 7: to be developed. It's a very manual process putting this

522
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Speaker 7: to air live, so you have the challenges of getting

523
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Speaker 7: the right information out there and not putting out unchecked

524
00:26:44,533 --> 00:26:47,733
Speaker 7: statements that you know, they realize that this is the

525
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Speaker 7: first time something like this has happened and they are

526
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Speaker 7: being able to broadcast it live, but then they realize

527
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Speaker 7: the terrorists can also see this, and so they are

528
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Speaker 7: they're sort of directly influencing what's happened. So it sort

529
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Speaker 7: of takes a look at the difficulty of knowing how

530
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Speaker 7: to present information live and do it properly and do

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Speaker 7: it well without causing more harm and having those conversations

532
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Speaker 7: about hang on a minute, the parents of these you

533
00:27:16,613 --> 00:27:19,693
Speaker 7: know Israeli hostages are watching this live. You know, like

534
00:27:19,693 --> 00:27:22,173
Speaker 7: there was just all these thoughts and they're all things

535
00:27:22,173 --> 00:27:24,373
Speaker 7: which we think about today. You know, how often do

536
00:27:24,453 --> 00:27:26,173
Speaker 7: you hear the police say, hey, please do not put

537
00:27:26,253 --> 00:27:29,853
Speaker 7: up videos that you shot of a car accident as

538
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Speaker 7: you drive past it. We think, we're still thinking about

539
00:27:32,493 --> 00:27:35,493
Speaker 7: all these things today, but sort of within you know,

540
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Speaker 7: using different technology. But look, it's I thought it was

541
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Speaker 7: very very well put together, very tense, very much from that.

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Speaker 7: It's all coming to you from the control room of

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Speaker 7: this TV studio to an interesting new take on this

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Speaker 7: on this event.

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Speaker 3: Nice Okay, that's September five, that's also showing in cinemas.

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Speaker 3: Francisca's first film was, of course Jones Mad About the Boy,

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Speaker 3: and all the details for both those movies is on

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Speaker 3: the news Talk z'd B website. Thank you, Francisca. We

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Speaker 3: will catch you again next week after ten o'clock this

550
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Speaker 3: morning too. If you're feeling like, actually, uh, you can't

551
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Speaker 3: be bothered leaving the house this weekend, you're just going

552
00:28:13,013 --> 00:28:14,853
Speaker 3: to park up on the couch, not even going to

553
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Speaker 3: make it to the movies. We have three shows for

554
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Speaker 3: watching or streaming at home to recommend you in our

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Speaker 3: screen time segment, including this latest drama speaking of Colin

556
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Speaker 3: Firth starring Colin Firth called Lockerbye Or. It's a drama

557
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Speaker 3: about the lockerbe bombing and a man who basically worked

558
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Speaker 3: for years and years and years and years to try

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Speaker 3: and get some justice after the lockerbe bombing. So we'll

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Speaker 3: tell you a bit more about that after ten o'clock

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Speaker 3: this morning. Right now, it is seventeen minutes to ten.

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Speaker 3: We're off to meet stock next.

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Speaker 1: Saturday Mornings with Jack dam keeping the conversation going through

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Speaker 1: the weekend with Bpure dot Co dot ins head for

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Speaker 1: High Quality Supplements News Talks dB.

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Speaker 3: Quarters to ten on News Talks EDB. Thank you so

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Speaker 3: much for all your messages. I've had heaps heaps of

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Speaker 3: emails and texts this morning, Dean says Jack. Good morning

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Speaker 3: on a beautiful Wellington day. Regarding the school lunch program,

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Speaker 3: the new program is actually doing pretty well when you

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Speaker 3: consider it effectively began at zero, so you have deliveries

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Speaker 3: on time in the ninety something percent within two weeks

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Speaker 3: of starting at just thirty seven point five percent of

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Speaker 3: the cost of the previous government scheme, with less wastage.

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Speaker 3: There's little doubt the current extreme criticism is largely politically motivated.

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Speaker 3: To listen to most commentators, you think the gold plated

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Speaker 3: labor scheme provided alacarte service to every kid who ate

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Speaker 3: everything they were served. Not even close to the case.

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Speaker 3: Now I agree with you on a lot of that, Dean,

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Speaker 3: I do. I think, yeah, there wasn't ever really criticism

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Speaker 3: of the old system when it came to the actual

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Speaker 3: service delivery, because anyone would be comparing that to what

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Speaker 3: was in place before, which was nothing right, So even

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Speaker 3: if lunch was late or whatever, they'd be like, well,

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Speaker 3: it's still better than what we had before this. So

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Speaker 3: I think there's probably a political dimension to that, and

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Speaker 3: I think if you look at the overall deliveries, yep,

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Speaker 3: overall deliveries have been on time, but clearly there have

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Speaker 3: been some pretty stodgy offerings out there and perhaps some

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Speaker 3: providers who haven't done the best job so far. My

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Speaker 3: overall point is that if we don't get this right,

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Speaker 3: the savings that have been made will be worth nothing,

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Speaker 3: because honestly, getting kids with full bellies is one of

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Speaker 3: the top things we can do to drive productivity in

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Speaker 3: the future. So thank you for that. Ninety two to

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Speaker 3: ninety two. If you want to send us a message

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Speaker 3: this morning, Jacket Newstalks hedb dot co dot Nz. Time

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Speaker 3: to catch up with our cook, Nikki Wicks. Who's with

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Speaker 3: us this morning, Kilda?

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Speaker 14: Yeah, good morning, Jack.

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Speaker 15: How are you?

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Speaker 3: I'm very well? Thank you?

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Speaker 9: You are?

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Speaker 3: You are at an almighty celebration, an unrivaled celebration. Today.

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Speaker 3: You are at meat stock.

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Speaker 15: I'm at meat stock.

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Speaker 16: More of them.

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Speaker 14: I'm probably, be honest, more of a Woodstock girl, but

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Speaker 14: I am at meat Stock. It's a huge celebration that

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Speaker 14: they have. This is the second year in New Zealand

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Speaker 14: down and Mystery Creek down here by Hamilton, and huge

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Speaker 14: celebration of barbecue culture, live music, butchery schools, a whole lot,

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Speaker 14: and it's hilarious because there's all these pit masters. But

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Speaker 14: I'm actually down here with a crew from cross Ray Barbecues,

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Speaker 14: which are infrared gas bed bar and so it's kind

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Speaker 14: of I wouldn't say I'm a pariah there. That would

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Speaker 14: be too strong, but I've got all of these sort

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Speaker 14: of big boys who are throwing you know, all sorts

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Speaker 14: of things.

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Speaker 2: On their on the fire.

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Speaker 14: I'm popping on the gas.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I tell you what.

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Speaker 14: They were very impressed with myself, my chocolate self sourcing

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Speaker 14: thing that I cracked out yesterday.

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Speaker 3: So just odd of interest. Well what what like because obviously,

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Speaker 3: like you know, barbecuing and pit culture is going through

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Speaker 3: a bit of a period at the moment. But you know,

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Speaker 3: there's all sorts of different gadgets and things you can buy,

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Speaker 3: but what doesn't infrared barbecue allow you to do?

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Speaker 14: Well, it's amazing. It's what it is is it's great

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Speaker 14: for the environment because that uses it is by LPG,

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Speaker 14: so it's sad by LPG. But it heats up these

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Speaker 14: ceramic plates then push out this infrared heat, so it's

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Speaker 14: intense heat. And I mean it's extraordinary. I used it

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Speaker 14: yesterday as a pizza oven as well, and so and

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Speaker 14: it takes less time to you know, to heat up

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Speaker 14: and uses about fifty percent less LPG. Really great, so

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Speaker 14: I love it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so how hot would you how hot would it get?

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Speaker 14: Oh three fifteen?

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Speaker 3: Oh wow? Okay, yeah, I struggle to get my barbecue

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Speaker 3: over about two hundred degrees?

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Speaker 17: Oh no.

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Speaker 14: And it's such a shame to thing. You have to

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Speaker 14: have a pizza oven as well.

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, you.

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Speaker 14: Know, I really enjoyed. It becomes my total outdoor kitchen

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Speaker 14: during summer.

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Speaker 10: So I'm loving it.

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Speaker 14: It's actually great, it's fantastic.

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Speaker 10: It's good festival.

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Speaker 14: So today I will be slinging quite a lot of

653
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Speaker 14: sort of beautiful pork with crackling and rotisserie chickens and

654
00:33:01,653 --> 00:33:03,653
Speaker 14: all that sort of thing, as well as my Black

655
00:33:03,733 --> 00:33:05,973
Speaker 14: Green Shop at self sourcing pudding. But I'll also be

656
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Speaker 14: using lamb today because today is New Zealand's National Lamb

657
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Speaker 14: Day of February every.

658
00:33:13,133 --> 00:33:16,693
Speaker 3: Year that does that deliberately coincide with meat stock.

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Speaker 14: I don't know if it does or not.

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Speaker 3: I'm sure someone in the meat community will be able

661
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Speaker 3: to come back to us on that.

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Speaker 14: I love someone today, but I love it. It nights

663
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Speaker 14: the anniversary of the first frozen lamb shipment that took

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Speaker 14: off from Port Charmers to London in eighteen eighty two,

665
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Speaker 14: and that really changed things for New Zealand.

666
00:33:39,493 --> 00:33:43,813
Speaker 3: Yet transformed our economy. Yeah, totally absolutely transformed New Zealand's history.

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Speaker 14: Really actually, just as we said that, it gave me,

668
00:33:46,613 --> 00:33:49,053
Speaker 14: gave me shivers because it really did. You know, our

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Speaker 14: lamb could then get to the rest of the world

670
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Speaker 14: just by technology catching up and being able to send

671
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Speaker 14: off frozen lamb. So look, I've got a beautiful, beautiful recipe.

672
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Speaker 14: This is off so good. So look you could use

673
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Speaker 14: What I love about this is it's really about the marinade.

674
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Speaker 14: And you can use any cut of land you like.

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Speaker 10: You could use lam m.

676
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Speaker 14: Steak, loin chops, shoulder chops probably maybe on a slower cock.

677
00:34:11,933 --> 00:34:14,053
Speaker 14: And also you could use a butterflied leg of lamb,

678
00:34:14,053 --> 00:34:16,533
Speaker 14: which I just adore. You can get your butcher a

679
00:34:16,573 --> 00:34:19,053
Speaker 14: bone that that out for you if you just take

680
00:34:19,053 --> 00:34:21,893
Speaker 14: that bone out and you've got this beautiful leg of

681
00:34:21,973 --> 00:34:25,293
Speaker 14: lamb that takes half the time to cook. Here's the marinade.

682
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Speaker 14: It's last quince season, Jack. I discovered that quince and

683
00:34:30,453 --> 00:34:35,413
Speaker 14: lamb are really good, mate. So my marinate has got

684
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Speaker 14: a huge, big dollop of quince paste in it.

685
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Speaker 15: Now.

686
00:34:38,853 --> 00:34:41,293
Speaker 14: Look, if you can't find that, I'm telling you apricot

687
00:34:41,373 --> 00:34:44,133
Speaker 14: jam will work just as well. It's got this sort

688
00:34:44,133 --> 00:34:46,653
Speaker 14: of tartness and the sweetness that you need. But quince

689
00:34:46,693 --> 00:34:52,053
Speaker 14: paste beautiful. A big large tablespoone maybe even two of

690
00:34:52,133 --> 00:34:58,373
Speaker 14: store bought HORRIFICA harriss is that beautiful spicy spicy spice

691
00:34:58,413 --> 00:35:02,093
Speaker 14: makes from that's made into a paste from Middle East

692
00:35:02,133 --> 00:35:06,333
Speaker 14: regions really and it's absolutely beautiful. Four clives of garlic.

693
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Speaker 14: You could crush those or I actually grape them on

694
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Speaker 14: a little microplane. Saves you're peeling it because the peel

695
00:35:11,813 --> 00:35:14,013
Speaker 14: sort of gets left in your hands and you can

696
00:35:14,053 --> 00:35:16,733
Speaker 14: just grape the flesh of the garlic in there. One

697
00:35:16,773 --> 00:35:20,293
Speaker 14: read onion finally dies that two tablespoons of vinegar. So

698
00:35:20,373 --> 00:35:23,573
Speaker 14: here we've got something to offset that sweetness, also help

699
00:35:23,653 --> 00:35:26,573
Speaker 14: to break down the lamb and the marinating. You could

700
00:35:26,613 --> 00:35:29,213
Speaker 14: use lemon juice for that. That's fine. Two tablespoons of

701
00:35:29,253 --> 00:35:32,373
Speaker 14: olive oil, nice big teaspoon of sea salt in there,

702
00:35:32,893 --> 00:35:35,253
Speaker 14: and just mix all of that together and you've got

703
00:35:35,253 --> 00:35:40,613
Speaker 14: this beautiful, vibrant looking sort of orange marinaate and then

704
00:35:40,813 --> 00:35:43,933
Speaker 14: smother your lamb whatever cut you're using with that. Leave

705
00:35:43,973 --> 00:35:46,213
Speaker 14: it over night if you can. I always read that

706
00:35:46,293 --> 00:35:49,053
Speaker 14: in recipe, so Jack and I'm sort of fifteen minutes

707
00:35:49,093 --> 00:35:51,693
Speaker 14: before I want to cook it. You can also just

708
00:35:51,733 --> 00:35:56,893
Speaker 14: marinate for fifteen minutes heat, have a barbecue hot plate

709
00:35:57,613 --> 00:36:00,453
Speaker 14: to about medium, throw your lamb on that, baste it

710
00:36:00,493 --> 00:36:04,133
Speaker 14: with any excess marinate as it cooks. There's a lot

711
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Speaker 14: of sugar in the marinate, so we'll have a tendants

712
00:36:06,613 --> 00:36:09,253
Speaker 14: to have a little bit of charring in places, which

713
00:36:09,333 --> 00:36:13,213
Speaker 14: I don't mind, and just cook that. What even whatever

714
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Speaker 14: your lamb is, it's going to time. I'm not going

715
00:36:15,373 --> 00:36:17,133
Speaker 14: to give you a cooking time here because it will

716
00:36:17,173 --> 00:36:19,853
Speaker 14: depend on what cut you're using, but you'll just find

717
00:36:19,853 --> 00:36:23,573
Speaker 14: this spicy and beautiful and so five minutes before you

718
00:36:23,613 --> 00:36:26,573
Speaker 14: think your lamb is ready, give it that final base

719
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Speaker 14: which will be just enough to cook that marinade and

720
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Speaker 14: it goes all jammy. Serve it with a beautiful big salad,

721
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Speaker 14: maybe some couscous, maybe a scatter of coriander splashyr yogat

722
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Speaker 14: on there. Honestly, it's absolutely fantastic.

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Speaker 3: It sounds superb sounds absolutely delicious. Yeah, okay, there's definitely

724
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Speaker 3: one for me. Thank you so much, and have a

725
00:36:46,293 --> 00:36:49,133
Speaker 3: wonderful time with all of all of your mates at

726
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Speaker 3: meat Stock, won't you.

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Speaker 16: I will.

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Speaker 3: We'll catch it you next week, Nicky, thank you. We'll

729
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Speaker 3: make sure that marinade recipe is up and available on

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Speaker 3: the newstalks. He'd be website as well. You know where

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Speaker 3: to go Newstalks. He'db dot co dot nz forward slash Jack.

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Speaker 1: Giving you the inside scoop on all you need to know.

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Speaker 1: Mornings with Jack team and bepewre dot co dot nzet

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Speaker 3: Feel like I'm missing out a little bit by not

737
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Speaker 3: being at meat Stock this weekend because the barbecues and

738
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Speaker 3: stuff are really going through a moment. My brother in

739
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Speaker 3: law got one of those new like the palette fired

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Speaker 3: ones and it's all like Wi Fi and abled and

741
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Speaker 3: there's an app and all the sort of things so

742
00:37:26,173 --> 00:37:28,653
Speaker 3: you can and like he's he cooks meat in there

743
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Speaker 3: for like fourteen hours. It's delicious, like absolutely amazing that

744
00:37:33,533 --> 00:37:35,573
Speaker 3: this thing, you know, looks like it should be attached

745
00:37:35,613 --> 00:37:38,053
Speaker 3: to the International Space Station. And I know that he's

746
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Speaker 3: not the only one who's getting into it. Paul has

747
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Speaker 3: flipped me a note to say he went to meet

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Speaker 3: Stock yesterday. A great fun of the sun bears and

749
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Speaker 3: lots of and this is a direct quote made from Paul,

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Speaker 3: So thank you for that. Ninety two ninety two. If

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Speaker 3: you want to send us a message on Newstalks, he'd

752
00:37:52,093 --> 00:37:53,893
Speaker 3: be this morning. It's a big weekend actually with all

753
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Speaker 3: the sporting action as well, Super Rugby Warriors with their

754
00:37:56,453 --> 00:38:00,813
Speaker 3: preseason stuff, A League games as well as well as that.

755
00:38:01,173 --> 00:38:03,613
Speaker 3: You've got the Red Ball Trolley Grand Prix kicking off

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Speaker 3: today in Auckland. I think it's the tenth year they've

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Speaker 3: been running that. In domain. It's always so much fun,

758
00:38:08,173 --> 00:38:10,173
Speaker 3: even if you can't go along, just seeing the highlights

759
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Speaker 3: some of the creations that people make in their in

760
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Speaker 3: their you know, backyard backyard go karts and trolley's usually

761
00:38:21,413 --> 00:38:23,853
Speaker 3: ends and up ends up with a few scraped elbows

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Speaker 3: and things as well, but it should be plenty of fun.

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Speaker 3: So that's kicking off I think just after midday in

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Speaker 3: Auckland's domain. If you are in the nine after ten

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Speaker 3: o'clock on News Talk's EDB, we've got your screen time

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Speaker 3: o'clock news. It's almost ten though, I'm Jack tayme. This

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Speaker 3: A girl's in your yoda, Good morning and welcome to

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Speaker 3: news Talks. He'd be Jack taying with you through the

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Speaker 3: midday Today. Saturdays are for sun snacks and supermodels. Lucky

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Speaker 3: for us, Kiwi icon Rachel Hunter is back in Old

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Speaker 3: tiot Or at the moment, and she's with us this morning, Calda,

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00:39:34,973 --> 00:39:36,813
Speaker 3: good morning, welcome home and welcome to the show.

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Speaker 11: You gotta Jack.

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Speaker 9: How are you?

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Speaker 3: I'm very very good, thank you. How how often are

785
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Speaker 3: you back these days you have? How do you do

786
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Speaker 3: the time split?

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Speaker 14: All right?

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Speaker 11: Very good?

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Speaker 3: Yes.

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Speaker 18: I actually usually come at the end like around well,

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Speaker 18: not the end, around September October for about six weeks

792
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Speaker 18: and then January through you know, March ish around that

793
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Speaker 18: time as well, So at least like three months a

794
00:40:05,173 --> 00:40:06,253
Speaker 18: year I come down here.

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Speaker 3: Oh that's pretty good. And so the rest of your time,

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Speaker 3: and excuse me for if I get the strong it's

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Speaker 3: like you've got time in La and in India as well.

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Speaker 11: Yes, exactly.

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Speaker 18: So I go back and do the retreats in India

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Speaker 18: and Bali and other places, and then I also obviously

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Speaker 18: go back to LA and also London because that's where

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Speaker 18: Renee is. So I kind of move around in that way,

803
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Speaker 18: which I'm very lucky. But yeah, it's it's kind of

804
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Speaker 18: the flow right now.

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Speaker 3: Do you feel like you see New Zealand change?

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Speaker 16: Oh?

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Speaker 18: Look, I think everything changes, right. But it's funny because

808
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Speaker 18: I think about this and you know, you see, you know,

809
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Speaker 18: there's fundamentally there's like you know, the things that you.

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Speaker 11: Eat, the you know, the dairies, you know, the.

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Speaker 18: Beaches, the places, especially during summertime obviously when you do.

812
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Speaker 18: Everyone goes off on the on their breaks during summertime,

813
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Speaker 18: and you can't help but be pulled to memories of

814
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Speaker 18: your child hood. And as much as yeah, we keep

815
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Speaker 18: we're going to keep evolving, the whole world's and evolving

816
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Speaker 18: in some type of way, you know, it's it's still

817
00:41:15,973 --> 00:41:18,733
Speaker 18: the memories of how how you spend your time with

818
00:41:18,813 --> 00:41:21,733
Speaker 18: your family and your friends. That's ultimately what it is.

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Speaker 18: And yeah, I mean skylines changed. I mean so is

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Speaker 18: the rest of the world. But I think fundamentally we

821
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Speaker 18: really when we come back to our home land, you

822
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Speaker 18: can't help but provoke those really amazing times growing up.

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Speaker 12: You know.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there's like an element of nostalgia and there's something

825
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Speaker 3: wonderful about that when you've been away you come home

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Speaker 3: and you're like, oh, my goodness. I never appreciated this

827
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Speaker 3: properly when I you know, when I was younger or

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Speaker 3: when I was living here. It's so true, this sort

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Speaker 3: of funny dynamic at the moment with New Zealand. And

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Speaker 3: I'll be interested on your perspective as someone who is

831
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Speaker 3: fortunate to travel a lot. A lot of people feel

832
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Speaker 3: like we are in a real funk at the moment,

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00:42:01,773 --> 00:42:04,173
Speaker 3: Like we're in not like a depression as such, but

834
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Speaker 3: we're in a really kind of you know, tricky little period.

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Speaker 18: What is my senses is everybody watching the same news

836
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Speaker 18: as well? I'm watching because I think it's a broadant situation.

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Speaker 3: Isn't it like one? You think it's like a global thing?

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Speaker 18: You I would think so when you like, I mean,

839
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Speaker 18: it's it's interesting. But I think, you know, look, everyone

840
00:42:28,773 --> 00:42:32,293
Speaker 18: ebbs and flows, like our careers flow, our life does.

841
00:42:32,373 --> 00:42:34,533
Speaker 18: We get changes, we get things that come in and

842
00:42:34,573 --> 00:42:36,973
Speaker 18: disrupt us and we're like, wow, this is amazing, and

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00:42:37,613 --> 00:42:38,413
Speaker 18: you know, so it.

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Speaker 11: Just it fluctuates.

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Speaker 18: So how do we how do we, in our best

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Speaker 18: possible way move through that in more of a positive way.

847
00:42:47,253 --> 00:42:50,373
Speaker 18: Yes we can, you know, get you know, disgruntled and

848
00:42:50,733 --> 00:42:52,973
Speaker 18: things are hard and things just aren't.

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Speaker 11: Fair sometimes that's just the bottom line.

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Speaker 18: But I think, you know, and that's okay too, But

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00:42:58,293 --> 00:43:01,773
Speaker 18: I think fundaments like how are we going to shift that?

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00:43:01,853 --> 00:43:04,173
Speaker 18: But at the same time, yeah, you're you're going to say, oh,

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Speaker 18: this isn't going right and this isn't going like yah

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00:43:06,893 --> 00:43:08,813
Speaker 18: yeah yan, yeah, Like who wants to sit next.

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Speaker 11: To that all day long?

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Speaker 18: Like look at where we live, like, look at where

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00:43:12,613 --> 00:43:15,933
Speaker 18: people live here? You know, so I don't know. Yeah,

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00:43:17,373 --> 00:43:20,093
Speaker 18: to me, I think it's you know, I don't know.

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00:43:20,133 --> 00:43:22,533
Speaker 18: I don't want to spread that to every country, but

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00:43:22,573 --> 00:43:24,773
Speaker 18: I think it's hard everywhere.

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00:43:24,693 --> 00:43:25,973
Speaker 3: Because look at the jobs.

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00:43:26,053 --> 00:43:27,453
Speaker 11: Look at what is a job?

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00:43:27,573 --> 00:43:27,853
Speaker 5: Now?

864
00:43:28,133 --> 00:43:32,453
Speaker 18: You know how it's yeah, I mean we could really

865
00:43:32,453 --> 00:43:34,213
Speaker 18: go down a rabbit hole here, Jack.

866
00:43:34,133 --> 00:43:37,013
Speaker 3: Like please please, I'm already no.

867
00:43:37,253 --> 00:43:38,693
Speaker 11: No, no, no, I'm not going down.

868
00:43:38,733 --> 00:43:40,213
Speaker 3: I'm not going to get you in trouble, I promise,

869
00:43:40,293 --> 00:43:40,893
Speaker 3: I promise you.

870
00:43:40,933 --> 00:43:42,253
Speaker 11: No, I don't mind being in trouble.

871
00:43:42,293 --> 00:43:44,093
Speaker 19: I always like to be a little bit rebellious.

872
00:43:44,093 --> 00:43:48,133
Speaker 3: So it's all good. See you've taken kind of you've

873
00:43:48,173 --> 00:43:50,853
Speaker 3: got quite a spiritual bent on that, like in being

874
00:43:50,893 --> 00:43:54,533
Speaker 3: positive and you're kind of positive outlook when you can

875
00:43:54,853 --> 00:43:59,213
Speaker 3: not an annoying positive no, not like.

876
00:43:58,693 --> 00:44:01,053
Speaker 18: Peace, love and happiness and nothing L like like I

877
00:44:01,053 --> 00:44:04,413
Speaker 18: don't mean that, I mean like we sometimes things are

878
00:44:04,533 --> 00:44:05,213
Speaker 18: not fair.

879
00:44:05,653 --> 00:44:08,453
Speaker 11: Absolutely yeah, but yeah, so.

880
00:44:08,973 --> 00:44:13,213
Speaker 3: How important is your kind of spiritual practice? And you

881
00:44:13,253 --> 00:44:16,013
Speaker 3: know you're leading of retreats? How important is that side

882
00:44:16,013 --> 00:44:18,133
Speaker 3: of your life to your everyday existence?

883
00:44:18,213 --> 00:44:23,093
Speaker 18: Now, well, I think there's an integ integration about it

884
00:44:23,133 --> 00:44:25,053
Speaker 18: because I think, you know, there's that very human side

885
00:44:25,093 --> 00:44:27,133
Speaker 18: that we have to get particular things that we move

886
00:44:27,173 --> 00:44:30,533
Speaker 18: through in life that are just fundamentally human. And it

887
00:44:30,533 --> 00:44:34,013
Speaker 18: seems to be my word on this radio show right now.

888
00:44:34,013 --> 00:44:38,733
Speaker 18: It's fundamentally But you know, we definitely we go to

889
00:44:38,733 --> 00:44:39,693
Speaker 18: the bathroom.

890
00:44:39,293 --> 00:44:41,213
Speaker 11: We have to work, we have to pay bills, we

891
00:44:41,293 --> 00:44:42,253
Speaker 11: have to do these things.

892
00:44:42,613 --> 00:44:46,013
Speaker 18: But I think where we sometimes where that connection is

893
00:44:46,093 --> 00:44:50,533
Speaker 18: of where do we find that stability where we can

894
00:44:50,933 --> 00:44:54,773
Speaker 18: like enjoy our life, enjoy our friends, enjoy our own

895
00:44:56,493 --> 00:44:59,813
Speaker 18: our own state of peace and well being, you know,

896
00:44:59,933 --> 00:45:03,133
Speaker 18: And so what is that and how do we move

897
00:45:03,293 --> 00:45:05,453
Speaker 18: into that At times when things just seem a little

898
00:45:05,453 --> 00:45:08,093
Speaker 18: bit afraid, we need to kind of come home to

899
00:45:08,213 --> 00:45:11,693
Speaker 18: that place within our salves to feel that stability. And

900
00:45:11,733 --> 00:45:14,373
Speaker 18: I think from there then you can see things a

901
00:45:14,413 --> 00:45:17,453
Speaker 18: little bit. But at the same time, again, you know,

902
00:45:17,613 --> 00:45:23,773
Speaker 18: I get ruffled and my mind works, you know, fast,

903
00:45:23,853 --> 00:45:26,853
Speaker 18: and it's busy and all the rest of it. And

904
00:45:26,893 --> 00:45:29,573
Speaker 18: I think, you know, doing this and having gone through

905
00:45:29,613 --> 00:45:33,453
Speaker 18: this with as teacher trainings such as and yoga when

906
00:45:33,453 --> 00:45:36,133
Speaker 18: I did it back in twenty seventeen. It's kind of

907
00:45:36,533 --> 00:45:39,253
Speaker 18: allowed me to find that place where I can kind

908
00:45:39,253 --> 00:45:41,813
Speaker 18: of harness all that energy more so and bring it

909
00:45:41,853 --> 00:45:45,333
Speaker 18: inward to be able to be more stable. So, I mean,

910
00:45:45,333 --> 00:45:48,093
Speaker 18: people can call it spiritual or they can call it energy,

911
00:45:48,253 --> 00:45:50,853
Speaker 18: you know, so it's like, how are you maintaining that

912
00:45:51,053 --> 00:45:54,213
Speaker 18: energy that sometimes feels fraid at times? So I think

913
00:45:54,253 --> 00:45:58,133
Speaker 18: the two combine, you know, whether we call it religion, spirituality, energy,

914
00:45:58,573 --> 00:46:02,133
Speaker 18: it's just kind of refining more of finding a stable

915
00:46:02,173 --> 00:46:07,653
Speaker 18: place for ourselves. So that's kind of what I aspire to.

916
00:46:07,853 --> 00:46:08,173
Speaker 12: Really.

917
00:46:08,493 --> 00:46:12,853
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, excuse my profound naivety on this front, because

918
00:46:13,133 --> 00:46:15,213
Speaker 3: I'll probably just say something I'm you know, put my

919
00:46:15,253 --> 00:46:17,493
Speaker 3: foot in it totally here because I'm just totally not

920
00:46:17,653 --> 00:46:22,493
Speaker 3: naive about the stuff. But I am curious, right, So, so, like,

921
00:46:22,613 --> 00:46:27,813
Speaker 3: do you see spirituality and religiosity by being religious? Do

922
00:46:27,853 --> 00:46:30,813
Speaker 3: you see yourself as being both of those or do

923
00:46:31,253 --> 00:46:36,213
Speaker 3: you separate the spirituality from the kind of you know,

924
00:46:36,573 --> 00:46:40,093
Speaker 3: being led by different energies. Can you kind of distinguish

925
00:46:40,133 --> 00:46:41,533
Speaker 3: those things for me? M?

926
00:46:42,213 --> 00:46:45,693
Speaker 18: Well, I mean, obviously it's always changing, So what I

927
00:46:45,773 --> 00:46:48,893
Speaker 18: might say here now might change next week or next

928
00:46:48,933 --> 00:46:49,493
Speaker 18: year or whatever.

929
00:46:49,653 --> 00:46:51,053
Speaker 11: Right, So as always, we're.

930
00:46:50,933 --> 00:46:54,013
Speaker 18: Always changing our opinions and our viewpoints depending on our

931
00:46:54,253 --> 00:46:59,133
Speaker 18: experience that we're having, whatever we're doing. But you know,

932
00:46:59,173 --> 00:47:01,893
Speaker 18: I was brought up in a very not very religious

933
00:47:01,893 --> 00:47:04,213
Speaker 18: My mum was very psychic, and so this none of

934
00:47:04,213 --> 00:47:07,333
Speaker 18: the stuff is kind of new to me. So we

935
00:47:07,333 --> 00:47:12,493
Speaker 18: were you know, Christian. We went an investigated Mormon, Buddhism,

936
00:47:12,693 --> 00:47:14,613
Speaker 18: like all this kind of stuff. So we did have

937
00:47:14,853 --> 00:47:20,373
Speaker 18: that growing up. You know, I think it's just you know,

938
00:47:20,453 --> 00:47:23,853
Speaker 18: there I would say that, you know, the spiritual side

939
00:47:23,853 --> 00:47:26,613
Speaker 18: of it or the religion side, there's that all that

940
00:47:26,733 --> 00:47:29,453
Speaker 18: murky water, And I don't want to say anyone's or

941
00:47:29,493 --> 00:47:32,813
Speaker 18: put a framework around it, because it's whatever you're drawn

942
00:47:32,853 --> 00:47:37,053
Speaker 18: to in some ways, because you can look at spirituality

943
00:47:37,053 --> 00:47:39,173
Speaker 18: in some ways as energy too, you know, I mean,

944
00:47:39,173 --> 00:47:41,693
Speaker 18: because there's an energy. I mean we're looking at scientists

945
00:47:41,773 --> 00:47:45,653
Speaker 18: now seeing some of this stuff as far as meditation

946
00:47:45,853 --> 00:47:49,453
Speaker 18: is concerned, and people would class that spiritual, correct, right

947
00:47:49,533 --> 00:47:49,853
Speaker 18: would you?

948
00:47:50,133 --> 00:47:50,813
Speaker 3: Yeah?

949
00:47:50,893 --> 00:47:55,693
Speaker 18: So, but you're seeing spirituality and meditation is really just

950
00:47:55,853 --> 00:47:59,653
Speaker 18: creating a sense of stability. So I don't I want

951
00:47:59,693 --> 00:48:03,533
Speaker 18: to leave people to their own experience rather than getting

952
00:48:03,573 --> 00:48:07,413
Speaker 18: me into mine, because then it gives you know, people

953
00:48:07,493 --> 00:48:10,773
Speaker 18: have to investigate themselves and draw their opinion off that.

954
00:48:11,453 --> 00:48:14,853
Speaker 18: But I like the freedom to move around because I

955
00:48:14,933 --> 00:48:18,853
Speaker 18: do love looking at religions and fascinated by them, and

956
00:48:18,893 --> 00:48:21,333
Speaker 18: at the same time I'm interested in the spirituality and

957
00:48:21,333 --> 00:48:25,253
Speaker 18: the energy. So I think there is a difference as such.

958
00:48:25,053 --> 00:48:27,013
Speaker 3: Yeah, what do you love about India?

959
00:48:29,613 --> 00:48:34,013
Speaker 18: It's just you get in there and you just get

960
00:48:34,733 --> 00:48:39,373
Speaker 18: lost in this immense, sensorary place of.

961
00:48:42,773 --> 00:48:43,453
Speaker 9: Just life.

962
00:48:44,093 --> 00:48:48,133
Speaker 18: You're immediately pushed into an incredible sense of life and

963
00:48:48,293 --> 00:48:54,533
Speaker 18: movement and colors and smells and people and going on

964
00:48:54,573 --> 00:48:56,573
Speaker 18: the side of the street and drinking chai and having

965
00:48:56,573 --> 00:48:59,693
Speaker 18: the most amazing conversation with who you know you sit

966
00:48:59,773 --> 00:49:00,493
Speaker 18: down on the side.

967
00:49:00,613 --> 00:49:05,853
Speaker 11: It's just it just has that where you just drop.

968
00:49:05,613 --> 00:49:08,733
Speaker 18: Away almost from all what you think and it just

969
00:49:08,773 --> 00:49:12,173
Speaker 18: takes you on this ride. So I think it just

970
00:49:12,653 --> 00:49:15,333
Speaker 18: takes all that kind of ego away from you and

971
00:49:15,373 --> 00:49:18,893
Speaker 18: you just you just yeah, you just go in there

972
00:49:18,933 --> 00:49:22,373
Speaker 18: and just get taken away. You know, it's beautiful.

973
00:49:22,533 --> 00:49:26,013
Speaker 3: Do you how much time do you spend there, like

974
00:49:26,053 --> 00:49:27,813
Speaker 3: in a normal year these days.

975
00:49:27,893 --> 00:49:31,133
Speaker 18: Around about like just under six months, just going in

976
00:49:31,133 --> 00:49:33,693
Speaker 18: and out just with the as far as doing the retreats.

977
00:49:33,693 --> 00:49:36,213
Speaker 18: Obviously you're not going in and out all the time

978
00:49:36,253 --> 00:49:39,093
Speaker 18: because I mean that becomes quite well, it's expensive now

979
00:49:39,133 --> 00:49:39,653
Speaker 18: with flying.

980
00:49:39,693 --> 00:49:43,413
Speaker 11: But yeah, so I kind of stay put for a

981
00:49:43,413 --> 00:49:43,853
Speaker 11: little bit.

982
00:49:44,013 --> 00:49:44,213
Speaker 6: Yeah.

983
00:49:44,253 --> 00:49:46,293
Speaker 3: Do you ever find it like overwhelming?

984
00:49:48,613 --> 00:49:52,453
Speaker 18: Yeah, but that kind of creates like that time where

985
00:49:52,453 --> 00:49:55,693
Speaker 18: you kind of can change, you know, where things can

986
00:49:56,573 --> 00:49:59,213
Speaker 18: get a little bit like, oh God, this is happening

987
00:49:59,333 --> 00:50:02,133
Speaker 18: or that's happening. But no, I love it. I love it.

988
00:50:02,213 --> 00:50:07,973
Speaker 18: I love watching and being involved in war kind loving people.

989
00:50:08,293 --> 00:50:09,613
Speaker 11: Yeah, it's it's amazing.

990
00:50:09,733 --> 00:50:20,373
Speaker 3: I think the intensity of the sensory experiences like that, it's.

991
00:50:19,013 --> 00:50:22,693
Speaker 18: Yeah, just explodes and it takes your any ideas or

992
00:50:22,813 --> 00:50:26,613
Speaker 18: ignorance you have just get beautifully transformed in some kind

993
00:50:26,653 --> 00:50:29,173
Speaker 18: of wham whatever that is, whether you come out of

994
00:50:29,173 --> 00:50:33,293
Speaker 18: India with whatever has happened, whatever, it just is a

995
00:50:33,293 --> 00:50:34,813
Speaker 18: transformational experience.

996
00:50:35,773 --> 00:50:36,493
Speaker 11: I mean that's for me.

997
00:50:36,613 --> 00:50:39,133
Speaker 18: Other people might go to Italy and have wine and

998
00:50:39,213 --> 00:50:42,693
Speaker 18: cheese and enjoy the coast, or go to Morocco or

999
00:50:42,693 --> 00:50:45,093
Speaker 18: go anywhere else in the world and have that same experience.

1000
00:50:45,293 --> 00:50:46,653
Speaker 11: But this is just mine.

1001
00:50:46,733 --> 00:50:48,813
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm just going to take all of the above

1002
00:50:48,973 --> 00:50:52,533
Speaker 3: for that. Yeah, yeah, no, it's it is a really

1003
00:50:52,573 --> 00:50:56,693
Speaker 3: special place. Hey, you've become a grandma, right I have.

1004
00:50:56,933 --> 00:50:57,973
Speaker 3: How's life is a grandma?

1005
00:50:58,813 --> 00:51:01,573
Speaker 18: Oh it's so sweet. He calls me, Louis calls me Rarah.

1006
00:51:01,653 --> 00:51:05,293
Speaker 18: They're about to have another baby very soon. But he's

1007
00:51:05,373 --> 00:51:09,733
Speaker 18: just gorgeous. And I just had Christmas with them this

1008
00:51:09,813 --> 00:51:14,613
Speaker 18: last Christmas. Yeah, he's he's very very there's such incredible

1009
00:51:14,613 --> 00:51:15,213
Speaker 18: appearance too.

1010
00:51:15,333 --> 00:51:17,533
Speaker 11: They're really amazing parents house people.

1011
00:51:17,573 --> 00:51:21,973
Speaker 3: Congratulations. Well look you are you are doing something a

1012
00:51:21,973 --> 00:51:24,853
Speaker 3: little bit off off the beach. You're teaming up with

1013
00:51:24,933 --> 00:51:27,133
Speaker 3: Uber eats. So what's the deal. Explain it to us.

1014
00:51:27,853 --> 00:51:30,693
Speaker 18: Oh, it's just you know, I did the TV commercial

1015
00:51:30,693 --> 00:51:34,573
Speaker 18: a few years ago and they're doing a new PR campaign.

1016
00:51:34,573 --> 00:51:37,653
Speaker 18: Obviously worth going down to the beach and you can

1017
00:51:38,093 --> 00:51:42,773
Speaker 18: get anything ordered from sunscreen to ice blocks, so you know, Auckland, Wellington,

1018
00:51:42,853 --> 00:51:45,653
Speaker 18: christ Church and some of the other coastal beaches you

1019
00:51:45,693 --> 00:51:48,613
Speaker 18: can order Uber eats down to the beach, so if

1020
00:51:48,613 --> 00:51:51,613
Speaker 18: you've forgotten anything, you can just direct it straight to

1021
00:51:51,693 --> 00:51:55,453
Speaker 18: your beach towel. So yeah, so it's just a it's

1022
00:51:55,533 --> 00:51:57,613
Speaker 18: just a nice I don't know, I find them really

1023
00:51:57,653 --> 00:52:01,253
Speaker 18: really easy to work with. Very yeah, and it's I mean,

1024
00:52:01,293 --> 00:52:03,013
Speaker 18: who doesn't order Uber eats right.

1025
00:52:03,573 --> 00:52:05,853
Speaker 3: And at the beach, I mean, if you can make

1026
00:52:05,893 --> 00:52:08,813
Speaker 3: any of the experience at the beach even more convenient

1027
00:52:08,853 --> 00:52:10,333
Speaker 3: than hey, I think we're all here for that.

1028
00:52:11,013 --> 00:52:12,893
Speaker 11: Yes, exactly, exactly.

1029
00:52:14,093 --> 00:52:15,933
Speaker 3: Well, look, it is so good to have you home.

1030
00:52:16,333 --> 00:52:17,973
Speaker 3: Thank you so much for giving us your time.

1031
00:52:18,133 --> 00:52:19,613
Speaker 18: Next time, I'd love to come in and we can

1032
00:52:19,693 --> 00:52:22,813
Speaker 18: have a longer chat about those things I did.

1033
00:52:23,733 --> 00:52:24,613
Speaker 3: Yeah, you, I do.

1034
00:52:24,733 --> 00:52:28,373
Speaker 18: Have Human Spirit on there with I just started a

1035
00:52:28,453 --> 00:52:30,933
Speaker 18: new podcast called Human Spirit with Rachel Hunter and it

1036
00:52:30,973 --> 00:52:34,253
Speaker 18: starts next Thursday, on the twentieth, and we have some

1037
00:52:34,293 --> 00:52:35,853
Speaker 18: great New Zealand guests and stuff.

1038
00:52:35,853 --> 00:52:39,973
Speaker 3: So yeah, human okay, yeah, well we'll find we'll put

1039
00:52:40,013 --> 00:52:41,653
Speaker 3: the details for that up on our website as well,

1040
00:52:41,653 --> 00:52:43,013
Speaker 3: because I know a lot of people will be really

1041
00:52:43,173 --> 00:52:46,053
Speaker 3: thank you. Yeah, and thank you, thank you for helping

1042
00:52:46,093 --> 00:52:52,173
Speaker 3: to educate me. I feel fundamentally. No, No, that was

1043
00:52:52,213 --> 00:52:55,293
Speaker 3: the key word for today. It's the key word for today. No,

1044
00:52:55,413 --> 00:53:00,053
Speaker 3: I'm just I'm aware that there are some some some enormous,

1045
00:53:00,093 --> 00:53:03,013
Speaker 3: many enormous holes in my in my knowledge and wisdom

1046
00:53:03,093 --> 00:53:06,293
Speaker 3: about certain subjects. So what you class says it.

1047
00:53:06,453 --> 00:53:09,573
Speaker 18: By the way, what are you class between religion, spirituality

1048
00:53:09,853 --> 00:53:12,053
Speaker 18: and energies as such?

1049
00:53:12,173 --> 00:53:12,413
Speaker 9: Wow?

1050
00:53:12,453 --> 00:53:13,013
Speaker 11: Your opinion?

1051
00:53:13,213 --> 00:53:16,293
Speaker 3: I mean I just you know, see I I didn't

1052
00:53:16,293 --> 00:53:20,733
Speaker 3: have a upbringing. No I tried meditating, but then see

1053
00:53:20,973 --> 00:53:23,093
Speaker 3: I'm just like the opposite because I'm all about like

1054
00:53:23,253 --> 00:53:26,813
Speaker 3: optimizing time and things like that, which is not so.

1055
00:53:26,853 --> 00:53:29,373
Speaker 3: I think I would really benefit from from meditating and

1056
00:53:29,373 --> 00:53:32,413
Speaker 3: really benefit from more of a spiritual life, but I

1057
00:53:32,493 --> 00:53:35,573
Speaker 3: just haven't kind of made my way in there yet.

1058
00:53:35,613 --> 00:53:37,493
Speaker 3: So this is this is maybe maybe it's a project

1059
00:53:37,493 --> 00:53:38,413
Speaker 3: for twenty twenty five.

1060
00:53:38,573 --> 00:53:40,653
Speaker 18: You know, well, next time I come back and to

1061
00:53:40,733 --> 00:53:42,893
Speaker 18: a meditation class, you can come along and we'll sit

1062
00:53:42,973 --> 00:53:45,053
Speaker 18: down see if we can have a little that we

1063
00:53:45,093 --> 00:53:47,813
Speaker 18: can You can come in and have a little meditation session.

1064
00:53:48,013 --> 00:53:50,453
Speaker 3: Yeah, there would be amazing people, I mean not just

1065
00:53:50,813 --> 00:53:53,333
Speaker 3: everyone sees it's you know who can can They say

1066
00:53:53,333 --> 00:53:58,173
Speaker 3: it's incredible for you, it's such a beneficial experience. So yeah, yeah,

1067
00:53:58,253 --> 00:54:03,213
Speaker 3: I'm open mind. Yeah yeah, yes, right, thank you so much. Yeah,

1068
00:54:03,453 --> 00:54:05,533
Speaker 3: love you to check and enjoy the rest of your

1069
00:54:05,573 --> 00:54:09,133
Speaker 3: time here to see you soon. That is the one

1070
00:54:09,173 --> 00:54:11,253
Speaker 3: and only I think we can use this term. We

1071
00:54:11,293 --> 00:54:12,333
Speaker 3: can definitely use this term.

1072
00:54:12,373 --> 00:54:12,573
Speaker 10: Key.

1073
00:54:12,613 --> 00:54:16,693
Speaker 3: We icon Rachel Hunter with us this morning before eleven

1074
00:54:16,693 --> 00:54:19,133
Speaker 3: o'clock on Newstalks EDB. We're in the garden. We've got

1075
00:54:19,133 --> 00:54:20,653
Speaker 3: your wine picked for this week, and I'm going to

1076
00:54:20,693 --> 00:54:24,093
Speaker 3: tell you about my Valentine's Day disaster very soon. Next

1077
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Speaker 3: up your TV show pick weeks, your TV show picks

1078
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1079
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Speaker 1: Start your weekend off in style. Saturday Mornings with Jack,

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Speaker 1: Tame and vpew it dot code on inzad for high

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Speaker 1: quality supplements.

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Speaker 3: US Talks EDB twenty five ten on News Talks EDB.

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Speaker 3: Tara Awards our screen Time Expert screen Time Time for

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Speaker 3: your Saturday Hey Tara, Oh hello Tara.

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Speaker 11: Good morning Jack.

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Speaker 3: You've got three shows for us this morning. Let's start

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Speaker 3: off with the new one starr In Colin Furss on

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Speaker 3: TV and z Plus TV and ZED one from tomorrow.

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Speaker 3: Tell us about Lockerbe's search for a truth.

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Speaker 20: This is a new British drama about the Lockerby Plain

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Speaker 20: disaster in December nineteen eighty eight, when a Plan AM

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Speaker 20: flight from London to New York exploded media over the

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Speaker 20: small Scottish town of Lockerby, and as you say, It

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Speaker 20: stars Colin Firth who plays the real life father of

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Speaker 20: one of the passengers who died. He plays Dr Jim Swire,

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Speaker 20: who was an English GP and when his daughter Flora

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Speaker 20: was killed, Jim became obsessed with finding out what really

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Speaker 20: happened and spent the next few decades teaming up with

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Speaker 20: journalists and lobby and governments. And he was unrelenting and

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Speaker 20: persistent about uncovering the truth about who was responsible for

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Speaker 20: the bombing and went to some extraordinary lengths to get

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Speaker 20: those answers. And the drama captures all those details.

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Speaker 7: It's a pretty.

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Speaker 20: Extraordinary story, and it's told from Jim Swire's perspective, so

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Speaker 20: it's inspired by his own research. Colin Firth is very

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Speaker 20: good in this as the grieving father who just becomes

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Speaker 20: obsessed with getting justice. If the story does interest you,

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Speaker 20: there's also a good documentary series on Netflix called on

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Speaker 20: Neon called Lockerbe that features the real Jim Swire, which

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Speaker 20: will give you a bit more real life background.

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Speaker 9: But the drama.

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Speaker 20: Itself is a very compelling story that gives a human

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Speaker 20: insight into what is a really terrible tragedy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, this sounds really interesting. Okay, lockerbe Search for Truth.

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Speaker 3: So that's on TVNZ one tomorrow and on TVNZ plus

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Speaker 3: of course on Netflix. You've seen Friends Like Her?

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Speaker 12: Yeah.

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Speaker 20: Friends Like Her is a new Zealand drama that came

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Speaker 20: out early last year on three, but it's just shifted

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Speaker 20: over to Netflix and is getting a brand new audience

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Speaker 20: both here and in Australia, which is why I wanted

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Speaker 20: to mention it again today because it's such a great

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Speaker 20: local drama and if you missed it the first time

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Speaker 20: around on Three, it's definitely worth catching on Netflix. This

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Speaker 20: is written by novelist Sarah Kate Lynch. It's a family

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Speaker 20: drama that turns into a thriller as it goes along,

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Speaker 20: and it's set in Kaikulda after the twenty sixteen earthquake.

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Speaker 20: It stars MORGANA O'Reilly and Tess Halbrick. They play sisters

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Speaker 20: in law Nicole and Tests, and when the show begins,

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Speaker 20: Nicole is having a surrogate pregnancy for Tests, but the

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Speaker 20: agreement between them goes wrong. Nicole wants to keep the

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Speaker 20: baby and it destroys the family and they have this

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Speaker 20: secret in their past, these two women that they're both

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Speaker 20: desperate to keep hidden. But things start to snowball and

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Speaker 20: the secrets start to rise to the surface.

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Speaker 2: And it's all.

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Speaker 20: Taking place in a community that has been damaged and

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Speaker 20: fractured physically and emotionally by the earthquake. And the show

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Speaker 20: really captures that feeling of small town New Zealand where everyone.

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Speaker 12: Knows everyone else's business.

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Speaker 20: It's just a show with great performances, well written, fantastic cast.

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Speaker 20: You know, it's a whole package. And I'm so pleased

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Speaker 20: that it's getting out to a new audience on Netflix.

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Speaker 3: So so good. Oh, it's really good to see it

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Speaker 3: up there. I thank you that friends like her on

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Speaker 3: Netflix and on Disney Plus High Potential.

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Speaker 20: Yeah, this is a new American crime drama. And if

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Speaker 20: you're a fan of shows like Monk or I think

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Speaker 20: you're like this as well. It's a classic fish out

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Speaker 20: of water story and it's about a single mother called

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Speaker 20: Morgan who is raising three children. She works at night

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Speaker 20: as a cleaner at the local police station, and she

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Speaker 20: has this amazing brain, which means she processes information differently

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Speaker 20: and sees things that other people don't. And she starts

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Speaker 20: to solve these crimes in the office at night, much

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Speaker 20: to the annoyance of their detectives, and Morgan is so

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Speaker 20: good at it that they reluctantly have to start bringing

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Speaker 20: her in on their tricky cases, except that you know,

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Speaker 20: she's not a trained detective. She's a straight shooting, fast

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Speaker 20: talking heart of gold, single mum who doesn't really follow

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Speaker 20: the rules, which leads to.

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Speaker 11: A lot of chaos.

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Speaker 20: It is all a bit ridiculous, but I also thought

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Speaker 20: it was a bit of fun that you shouldn't take

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Speaker 20: too seriously. It stars Kitlin Olsen from Hacks, who holds

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Speaker 20: the show together beautifully. You know, it's far fetched, but

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Speaker 20: it's also light and quirky and there's a lot of charm.

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Speaker 20: It's one of those formulaic crime of the week kind

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Speaker 20: of dramas. But it's a really fun, easy watch.

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Speaker 3: Oh nice, Okay, cool, that's high potential. It's on Disney plus.

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Speaker 3: Friends Like Her is the KEII drama that's on Netflix,

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Speaker 3: Sit and Kai Colder and Lockerby Search for a Truth

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Speaker 3: is on TV and Z one and TV and ZI

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Speaker 3: plus all the details for those shows, of course, on

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Speaker 3: the Newstalk ZEDB website. My Valentine's Day, Blunder.

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Speaker 2: Next, Getting your Weekends Started.

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Speaker 1: It's Saturday Morning with Jack Team on Newstalk ZBE.

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Speaker 3: If you turn on the radio or the tally back

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Speaker 3: in twenty twelve, chances are you would have heard the song.

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Speaker 3: It was all the TV shows, you know how new

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Speaker 3: music used to get released on TV shows. Was in

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Speaker 3: shows like Bones, Catfish, The Vampire Diaries. It was on

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Speaker 3: commercials everywhere, and it was on this very little known movie,

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Speaker 3: one that didn't have much success called silver Lining's Playbook. Anyway,

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Speaker 3: it's a johey. It's by the Lumineers, and they're kind

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Speaker 3: of plucky heart on their sleeve. Folk band. They started

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Speaker 3: as a cover band and then obviously kind of grew

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Speaker 3: from that and they moved out of New York, which

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Speaker 3: is a little bit unconventional, but found huge success internationally. Anyway,

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Speaker 3: they've just released a brand new album, is their first album,

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Speaker 3: and we're gonna have a little bit of a listen

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Speaker 3: before midday today see if they've changed their sound at all,

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Speaker 3: see if they've headed in a different direction. I'm looking

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Speaker 3: forward to that, speaking of heating in different directions. Valentine's Day,

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Speaker 3: I thought I was sorted you see, I thought I

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Speaker 3: had it and our kind of agreement, and I feel

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Speaker 3: like couples do need a sort of an agreement, even

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Speaker 3: if it's unspoken. Our agreement is you don't kind of

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Speaker 3: spend heaps of money on Valentine's Day or anything. You

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Speaker 3: just do something kind of thoughtful. And so I had

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Speaker 3: planned for Valentine's Day this year to give my wife

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Speaker 3: a nice card, write a little poem inside, like a

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Speaker 3: little funny little poem, and get us some chocolate as well.

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Speaker 3: I thought, oh, that'd be good. And I didn't mention

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Speaker 3: Valentine's Day, and obviously she's got other things on her

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Speaker 3: mind at the moment. So I thought, you know what,

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Speaker 3: she's probably going to forget Valentine's Day. I'm going to

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Speaker 3: win Valentine's Day this year. Anyway. I get up yesterday

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Speaker 3: morning and I go into the kitchen. My wife has

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Speaker 3: made me a beautiful card, and she's got me a

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Speaker 3: very nice box of chocolates. I immediately realized that she's

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Speaker 3: got me a much nicer box of chocolates than the

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Speaker 3: chocolate I've got her. Now, I'm not too concerned about that,

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Speaker 3: because I think, don't worry Jack. The card is absolutely

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Speaker 3: nailed it this year. Now for the card, I have

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Speaker 3: a bit of a system, like to be organized, and

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Speaker 3: that every time I go to a book shop or

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Speaker 3: a stationary shop and I see unique cards, I always

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Speaker 3: buy a couple because the thing is, you always need cards,

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Speaker 3: and it's so annoying if you've then got to go

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Speaker 3: out as a special outing to go and get a card,

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Speaker 3: you know, for someone's birthday or anything. So I keep

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Speaker 3: a little selection of cards in a drawer at home.

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Speaker 3: Earlier in the week, I went to that drawer, I

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Speaker 3: looked in it and I found the perfect card. It

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Speaker 3: had a picture of a shrimp on the front of

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Speaker 3: it and it said You're shrimply the best. I thought,

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Speaker 3: that's perfect, right, perfect for Valentine's Day. My wife is

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Speaker 3: going to love this card. Good old me forgetting this card,

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Speaker 3: however long ago I got it from whatever bookstore I

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Speaker 3: got it. Anyway, get the card, get the chocolate, leave

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Speaker 3: it out for Valentine's Day. My wife's got a bit

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Speaker 3: of chocolates for me. That doesn't matter, because my card's

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Speaker 3: gonna win. I get a call a couple of hours later,

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Speaker 3: my wife's on the phone. Hey, Sweetart, I said, happy

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Speaker 3: Valentine's Day. She said, you gave me my card. I

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Speaker 3: said what, and she said, you gave me a card

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Speaker 3: that I had bought already. And I said, no, no,

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Speaker 3: I didn't. I went to my card collection and I

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Speaker 3: got I got a card for myself, and she said no.

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Speaker 3: I saw the You're Shrimply the Best card online and

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Speaker 3: I bought it so that I could give it to someone.

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Speaker 3: And you've just recycled my card. So it turns out

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Speaker 3: that I didn't win Valentine's Day this year. Never mind,

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Speaker 3: it'll come around again February fourteenth next year, I suppose.

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Speaker 3: But yes, a little bit of egg on my face.

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Speaker 3: Thank goodness. My poem was so good. You're not hearing

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Speaker 3: that though. Twenty four to eleven, you're a jackdaim on

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Speaker 3: Newstalk ZEDB.

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Speaker 1: Putting the time question to the newspeakers the mic asking breakfast.

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Speaker 21: Former Australian Prime Minister Scott Morrison is, well, this course

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Speaker 21: you're in the country to talk about economics, which we're

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Speaker 21: deeply interested in at the moment, in trying to grow

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Speaker 21: the economy. So give us some advice from Australia.

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Speaker 2: How do you deal with the world.

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Speaker 21: In foreign investments? And immigrants and their money without blowing

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Speaker 21: it up politically.

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Speaker 22: It's a tough equation to balance. The most important thing

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Speaker 22: is people need to understand that your immigration program has

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Speaker 22: strong rules and they're enforced, and that your borders are secure.

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Speaker 22: In our experience in Australia, people don't think the rules

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Speaker 22: are being followed and the system's being gained, they won't

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Speaker 22: buy it. But more broadly, on attracting foreign investment, remove

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Speaker 22: the barriers that are coming through regulation to improve competitiveness.

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Speaker 22: It's really not rocket science.

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Speaker 21: Back Monday from six am the mic Asking Breakfast with

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Speaker 21: the Rain drover of the last news Talk ZB.

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Speaker 3: Twenty one to eleven on news Talk z'db. Well, the

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Speaker 3: Gulf of America is official. President Trump ordered it to

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Speaker 3: be changed an official government documentation earlier this week. That

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Speaker 3: means that Google Maps and Apple Maps have followed along

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Speaker 3: in our textbook, poor stenhouses here with the details cal

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Speaker 3: to Paul.

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Speaker 23: Yes, they say they're doing it because of long standing policy.

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Speaker 15: Jack.

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Speaker 23: They say that they always try to match the official

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Speaker 23: US government sources. But interestingly, the changes only for those

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Speaker 23: folks who are in the United States are the only

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Speaker 23: ones who are going to see Golf of America. In Mexico,

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Speaker 23: it's still going to see Golf of Mexico, and in

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Speaker 23: the rest of the world it's going to say Golf

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Speaker 23: of Mexico with Golf of America in some brackets.

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Speaker 3: Right. It's yeah, obviously a real pressing issue. I've seen

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Speaker 3: all of these divisions this week where people have gone

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Speaker 3: and looked at maps and tried to work out how

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Speaker 3: much of Mexico's Exclusive Economic Zone covers the or how

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Speaker 3: much of the Golf of Mexico slash America is covered

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Speaker 3: by the Mexican Exclusive Economic Zone, how much is Cubas

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Speaker 3: and how much is America. And I haven't yet seen

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Speaker 3: one divide that suggests that America can claim the most

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Speaker 3: of that space. But anyway, we just go.

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Speaker 23: If you put an S on the end the Gulf

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Speaker 23: of America's yeah, there you go. Maybe that's the way

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Speaker 23: to solve this diplomatic Yes.

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Speaker 3: Hey, Apple's expected to launch a new low end phone

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Speaker 3: this week.

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Speaker 15: Yes, they are.

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Speaker 23: It's expected to be the new version of the iPhone S.

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Speaker 23: So it's actually the last phone that still has the

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Speaker 23: physical home button that was on the original iPhone.

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Speaker 19: Right, it changed a bit of a time.

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Speaker 23: It got a touch id and things like that, but

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Speaker 23: it's the only one that still has it, so that

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01:05:47,013 --> 01:05:49,333
Speaker 23: whole look is going to be gone. Assuming it's going

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Speaker 23: to be just like the other iPhones now where it's

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Speaker 23: you know, a swipe up and things like that on

1309
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Speaker 23: your screen, but also expected to get the latest and

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01:05:58,733 --> 01:06:02,013
Speaker 23: greatest A eighteen chip as it's known, which is also

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Speaker 23: in the iPhone sixteen currently.

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Speaker 7: And it's going to get something brand new.

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Speaker 23: It's going to get Apple's own modem. So Apple was

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Speaker 23: using other people's chips and then started making their own

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Speaker 23: and had huge success with that. By the way, now

1316
01:06:17,333 --> 01:06:20,053
Speaker 23: they're going away and they're getting rid of the old

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01:06:20,133 --> 01:06:22,853
Speaker 23: modems that they used to buy from suppliers and they're

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Speaker 23: doing that themselves too, And so it's expected that that

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01:06:26,173 --> 01:06:29,213
Speaker 23: will be the very first time that gets to be

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Speaker 23: connected to the internet. Tim Cook's teased for launch by

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Speaker 23: saying it was an opportunity to see the newest member

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Speaker 23: of the family, so it could be something bigger. That

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01:06:38,373 --> 01:06:41,573
Speaker 23: seems to suggest somethingeh, but I think most of the

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01:06:41,613 --> 01:06:43,213
Speaker 23: analysts think it will be the new iPhone.

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Speaker 3: The thing is with THEE that people love it. People

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Speaker 3: who like people really love it. You know, you've got

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Speaker 3: all the topping bells and whistles, ten cameras on the

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Speaker 3: back iPhone. Yeah, but this is the EC's the cheapest

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01:06:55,733 --> 01:07:00,413
Speaker 3: model and it really reliable. Eh yeah yeah yeah.

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Speaker 23: And the other one that people it's maybe another it's

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Speaker 23: a divide, but I'm one of those people. I don't

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Speaker 23: want my phone to keep getting bigger. I'd actually quite

1333
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Speaker 23: like it to be small. And the minis the iPhone

1334
01:07:12,413 --> 01:07:14,333
Speaker 23: was an iPhone you see mini. I can't remember the

1335
01:07:14,413 --> 01:07:17,493
Speaker 23: naming convention, but they did a smaller iPhone and that

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Speaker 23: was really popular with a big group of people. Small

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01:07:20,933 --> 01:07:23,013
Speaker 23: a small group of people, I guess, but those who

1338
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Speaker 23: had it loved it. Didn't want a genormous phone in

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Speaker 23: their pocket.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Now, Meta has been enjoying pretty stellar performance in

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01:07:30,253 --> 01:07:32,893
Speaker 3: the stock market recently, but they've laid off thousands of

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Speaker 3: people this week.

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Speaker 23: Yeah, they did well, they did. This is now their

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01:07:36,333 --> 01:07:38,413
Speaker 23: third year in a row that they've done these sort

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01:07:38,413 --> 01:07:41,773
Speaker 23: of beginning of the year cuts. This was another five

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Speaker 23: percent of their workforce, So if you do the numbers,

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Speaker 23: it's up to about as many as three thousand, six

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Speaker 23: hundred people. What's different about this one is the other

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01:07:50,133 --> 01:07:52,813
Speaker 23: one part of their sort of year of efficiency as

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01:07:52,853 --> 01:07:55,253
Speaker 23: they called it, where they really were trying to you know,

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Speaker 23: cut some of the costs out of the business, which

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Speaker 23: as as you say, did incredible things for its stock price.

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Speaker 9: This one, though, they.

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Speaker 23: Publicly said, is is they get rid of staff who

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Speaker 23: weren't meeting expectations, right, which, if you got cut is

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Speaker 23: one of those five percent.

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Speaker 15: That's a little bit.

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Speaker 3: Of a dagger, that very much so.

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Speaker 23: Yeah, and for everybody to kind of know that, which

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01:08:17,373 --> 01:08:19,093
Speaker 23: may only not even be true as to why these

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Speaker 23: people are being let go, because they also say it's

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01:08:22,173 --> 01:08:24,653
Speaker 23: to make way for strong AI talents, so you would

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01:08:24,653 --> 01:08:27,413
Speaker 23: have to assume that they're maybe gonna read jig some

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01:08:27,533 --> 01:08:31,493
Speaker 23: investment rather than just get rid of terrible people. But no,

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01:08:31,853 --> 01:08:33,733
Speaker 23: not a nice way to start a year, and especially

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01:08:33,773 --> 01:08:34,973
Speaker 23: when you've got that headline.

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Speaker 3: Along with you as well. Yeah, yeah, hey, thanks Paul,

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Speaker 3: appreciate it. As always, that is our Textbert Paul stin house. Jack.

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Speaker 3: If your wife bought the same card as you, how

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Speaker 3: did that get to be your fault?

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Speaker 9: No?

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Speaker 3: Sorry, I didn't explain it properly. It's not that you

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01:08:46,733 --> 01:08:48,893
Speaker 3: bought the same card as me. It's that I took

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Speaker 3: a card that my wife had bought and gave it

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Speaker 3: to her for Valentine's Day, What Mom seventeen to eleven

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Speaker 3: on News Dogs.

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Speaker 2: He'd be a little bit of way to kick off

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01:08:59,293 --> 01:08:59,813
Speaker 2: your weekend.

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Speaker 1: Then with Jack Saturday Mornings with Jack Tay and Bepeart

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Speaker 1: on code on Z for high Quality Supplements used Talks'.

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Speaker 3: Fourteen minutes to eleven on News Talks. They'd be Bob

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01:09:10,493 --> 01:09:13,253
Speaker 3: Campbell's our master of wine and is with us this morning?

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01:09:13,333 --> 01:09:13,893
Speaker 3: Colder Bob?

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01:09:14,733 --> 01:09:15,333
Speaker 15: Sure, Jack.

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Speaker 3: Before we get to your best buy for this week,

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01:09:17,853 --> 01:09:19,933
Speaker 3: we thought we would hit you up for a Valentine's

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01:09:20,013 --> 01:09:22,293
Speaker 3: Day pick as well. If, like me, you're trying to

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01:09:22,293 --> 01:09:24,053
Speaker 3: make up for a bit of a Valentine's Day faux

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Speaker 3: pas yesterday and you you've chosen to Pegasus Bay Averts

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Speaker 3: Tremina from North Canterbury. So tell us about the Gaverts.

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Speaker 17: Yeah, well, Gaverts Tremina is an aromatic wine that's that's

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01:09:34,773 --> 01:09:38,413
Speaker 17: got punchy aromas that often resembles flowers, and in this

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Speaker 17: case it's rose petal, which I think makes it the

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Speaker 17: perfect Valentines. They better than forget the roses.

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Speaker 3: Go with the rose petals instead. Yeah, nice, Okay, and

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Speaker 3: your picture. This week, your best buy is a Trinity

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Speaker 3: Held twenty twenty one, the Gimblet wine from Hawk's Bay.

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Speaker 3: So tell us about this. Why did you choose it?

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Speaker 17: Well, it's New Zealand Lamb Day today, as you said,

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Speaker 17: and I just wanted to choose the wine that would

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Speaker 17: make a great match with Lamb. Lamb's a high fat

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01:10:10,653 --> 01:10:14,613
Speaker 17: meat and in fat as flavor, so that makes it

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01:10:14,653 --> 01:10:17,933
Speaker 17: a high flavor meat and that's a major consideration when

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01:10:17,973 --> 01:10:21,093
Speaker 17: you're making a trying to contrive a food and wine match.

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01:10:22,013 --> 01:10:26,413
Speaker 17: Cabinet Sauvignon is the absolute classic. It's a thick skinned

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01:10:26,533 --> 01:10:29,853
Speaker 17: red grate that's high in flavor, and it makes it

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Speaker 17: a perfect match with the high flavored, high flavored Lamb.

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Speaker 17: Trinity Hild twenty twenty one. The Gimblet is a blend

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01:10:37,493 --> 01:10:43,173
Speaker 17: actually of Cabinet Fronc, Cabinet Sauvignon, and Petty Verde. I

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01:10:43,253 --> 01:10:46,293
Speaker 17: think the wine even has a subtle minty character which

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01:10:46,333 --> 01:10:49,413
Speaker 17: gives it a built in mint sauce like component that's

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Speaker 17: I think absolutely perfect for Lamb.

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Speaker 3: Oh, that's amazing. So what does it actually taste like.

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Speaker 17: Well, it's dense and tense red with casis, dark berry, chocolate,

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01:11:00,693 --> 01:11:05,573
Speaker 17: mocker vanilla, cigar box and spicy oak flavors with a

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01:11:05,613 --> 01:11:10,893
Speaker 17: touch of mint. It's an approachable wine now, but it

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01:11:10,933 --> 01:11:14,813
Speaker 17: has good aging potential. I think a powerhouse red that

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01:11:15,373 --> 01:11:18,493
Speaker 17: was built to enhance the flavors of New Zealand Land.

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Speaker 17: I think from the Gimblet Gravel's a premium red wine

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01:11:24,493 --> 01:11:29,893
Speaker 17: region in Hawk's Bay which specializes in in high flavored,

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Speaker 17: high flavored red wine.

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Speaker 24: Yeah.

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01:11:31,773 --> 01:11:32,893
Speaker 3: Nice, so we can you pick it up?

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01:11:32,893 --> 01:11:33,133
Speaker 4: Bob?

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01:11:34,413 --> 01:11:34,573
Speaker 15: Well?

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01:11:34,613 --> 01:11:36,893
Speaker 17: I found it at Whiskey and More in the White

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Speaker 17: Kaddo for thirty four dollars, which is a bit of

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01:11:40,173 --> 01:11:45,013
Speaker 17: a saving on the regular price. Liquor Legends Auckland has

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01:11:45,053 --> 01:11:47,933
Speaker 17: it also for thirty four dollars, and the Good Wine

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Speaker 17: Company in Auckland for thirty five ninety nine, so they're

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Speaker 17: all pretty keen price.

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Speaker 3: And you said at ll Age, well, but how long

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01:11:55,733 --> 01:11:57,573
Speaker 3: should you be storing it for before enjoying it?

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Speaker 12: Do you think?

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01:11:58,493 --> 01:11:58,813
Speaker 15: Well?

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01:12:00,813 --> 01:12:04,493
Speaker 17: Five to ten years? Yeah, ten years might be stretching it,

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01:12:04,533 --> 01:12:08,933
Speaker 17: but with full storage it'll it'll do that with the ease.

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Speaker 3: Nice. Okay, fantastic, Thank you, Bob. So Bob's best by

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Speaker 3: this week celebrating National Lamb Day is a Trinity Hill

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01:12:16,213 --> 01:12:20,813
Speaker 3: twenty twenty one the Gimblet Cabinet Sevignyon from hawks Bay.

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Speaker 3: All the details, of course on the news talks EDB website.

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Speaker 3: Right now it is eleven minutes to eleven.

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01:12:28,213 --> 01:12:31,333
Speaker 1: On one gunning with Still shop get free accessories on

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01:12:31,413 --> 01:12:32,893
Speaker 1: selected still tools.

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Speaker 3: Rout climb Passed is our man in the garden on

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Speaker 3: Saturday mornings on news Talk ZEDB, and he is celebrating

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Speaker 3: a summer harvest this morning, morning.

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Speaker 12: Rude, good morning. Are you all good?

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01:12:43,693 --> 01:12:44,693
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm very well too.

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01:12:44,693 --> 01:12:44,893
Speaker 6: You what.

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01:12:44,893 --> 01:12:47,013
Speaker 3: We've been harvesting a fair bit at our place. Actually,

1452
01:12:47,133 --> 01:12:50,333
Speaker 3: just the number of tomatoes. Have absolutely nailed the tomatoes

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01:12:50,373 --> 01:12:52,173
Speaker 3: this year. I know that nailing tomatoes has nothing to

1454
01:12:52,213 --> 01:12:54,133
Speaker 3: bring about too much, but give him if it's last

1455
01:12:54,213 --> 01:12:57,653
Speaker 3: year versus this year. My goodness, it's political. I'm sort

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01:12:57,653 --> 01:13:00,893
Speaker 3: of I'm like getting into like Chutney territory now, I think,

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01:13:01,093 --> 01:13:04,213
Speaker 3: you know, Yeah, it's just there's so many and there's

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01:13:04,213 --> 01:13:05,213
Speaker 3: only so much you can do.

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Speaker 16: No, there's there's lots more you can do. You can

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01:13:08,173 --> 01:13:11,853
Speaker 16: also stuff things up like I've done. No, no, I've

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Speaker 16: only got a half.

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Speaker 12: If you like amount of tomato.

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Speaker 16: So it's not, as you say, easy, and you know,

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01:13:18,613 --> 01:13:22,173
Speaker 16: anybody can do it. Sometimes things can go wrong, and

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01:13:22,213 --> 01:13:24,333
Speaker 16: it's in my case, you know, it's it's the watering.

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01:13:24,413 --> 01:13:27,773
Speaker 16: It's actually where I learned how to pre water before

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01:13:27,813 --> 01:13:31,293
Speaker 16: you plant the plants in a in a saturated area.

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01:13:31,293 --> 01:13:34,373
Speaker 16: I remember when we talked about a few four weeks ago. Yeah,

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01:13:34,373 --> 01:13:37,493
Speaker 16: that's it, so that that didn't go that well. But yeah,

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Speaker 16: I've been harvesting different things because you know, I've been

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Speaker 16: on the road a bit with my cousin and with

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Speaker 16: my little three and a half year old. So it's

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Speaker 16: cool fun and no, it's it's cool fun. But we

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Speaker 16: found fu sure tree future on Bank's Peninsula. But it

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Speaker 16: is a really beautiful and quite common in that area.

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Speaker 16: And the cool thing is they've got the most amazing

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01:14:00,973 --> 01:14:05,573
Speaker 16: flowers and the most deep purple fruits, which are right

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01:14:06,053 --> 01:14:09,253
Speaker 16: right now. So I thought, blow it. I'm going to

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01:14:09,253 --> 01:14:11,933
Speaker 16: put those things. I'm going to get them and I'm

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Speaker 16: going to put them in a container of some seed

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01:14:16,053 --> 01:14:18,853
Speaker 16: raising mix, and I'm going to do according to what

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01:14:18,933 --> 01:14:21,253
Speaker 16: people say it has to be done, because it's not

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01:14:21,413 --> 01:14:25,853
Speaker 16: easy growing those things, by the way, So there you go. Yeah, yeah,

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01:14:25,973 --> 01:14:28,533
Speaker 16: so that's what I've done, literally, and I put all

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01:14:28,533 --> 01:14:31,173
Speaker 16: the stuff on the on the on the on the website.

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01:14:31,173 --> 01:14:35,733
Speaker 16: There very tiny seeds. To terminate them, you simply put

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Speaker 16: them in you know, you put them in some soaking

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01:14:38,053 --> 01:14:41,853
Speaker 16: water and then slowly put them gently all over the

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Speaker 16: place in your in your bed of of of mix,

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01:14:46,013 --> 01:14:49,173
Speaker 16: your seed raising mix. And basically that can happen in

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Speaker 16: that can actually come up in three weeks or three years.

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Speaker 3: And you can also turn those little little you can

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01:14:57,573 --> 01:14:59,373
Speaker 3: turn them into jam, your little seeds.

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Speaker 16: Yeah, you probably could, but I don't think that many

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01:15:02,653 --> 01:15:06,053
Speaker 16: people do that. Not those particular seeds off the tree.

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01:15:06,133 --> 01:15:08,613
Speaker 16: Few they are atable mode you used to eat them

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01:15:08,653 --> 01:15:11,093
Speaker 16: all the time. But what we did, what did what

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01:15:11,133 --> 01:15:13,413
Speaker 16: we did? A week later, Julie and I just realized

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01:15:13,413 --> 01:15:16,773
Speaker 16: that the dems and plums were falling off the tree.

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Speaker 16: They they actually are weird if you taste them raw,

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01:15:21,093 --> 01:15:25,173
Speaker 16: but actually not that bad. But boy, do you make

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01:15:25,293 --> 01:15:27,853
Speaker 16: jam out of that? It's unbelievable.

1503
01:15:28,733 --> 01:15:32,133
Speaker 3: Yeah that's normally, yeah.

1504
01:15:31,453 --> 01:15:32,173
Speaker 12: Yeah, that's right.

1505
01:15:32,213 --> 01:15:34,053
Speaker 16: Normally when you pick them, you picked them in the

1506
01:15:34,253 --> 01:15:37,493
Speaker 16: later on you as you know, with stonefold, you actually

1507
01:15:39,253 --> 01:15:43,053
Speaker 16: chewed them into you know, actually get the trees and

1508
01:15:43,773 --> 01:15:49,093
Speaker 16: properly cut them into proper if you like trees, not

1509
01:15:49,133 --> 01:15:51,453
Speaker 16: too high, not too low, and all that sort of

1510
01:15:51,613 --> 01:15:53,973
Speaker 16: so of pruning is important. But I thought, you know

1511
01:15:54,013 --> 01:15:57,573
Speaker 16: what I'm going to do. As I'm pruning, I'm picking

1512
01:15:57,613 --> 01:15:59,373
Speaker 16: the things off at the same time.

1513
01:15:59,933 --> 01:16:01,613
Speaker 12: So I thought, that's it. You don't have to go

1514
01:16:01,653 --> 01:16:02,653
Speaker 12: on your letter twice.

1515
01:16:02,813 --> 01:16:04,173
Speaker 2: You know that doesn't in.

1516
01:16:04,933 --> 01:16:07,173
Speaker 3: So you you to be totally clear. You're picking your

1517
01:16:07,213 --> 01:16:09,453
Speaker 3: dams and plums and then pruning at the same time.

1518
01:16:10,373 --> 01:16:10,573
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1519
01:16:10,613 --> 01:16:14,413
Speaker 16: No, I think I actually pruned a whole if you

1520
01:16:14,573 --> 01:16:20,693
Speaker 16: like the whole plums off, the whole stalks with the plums,

1521
01:16:20,973 --> 01:16:22,053
Speaker 16: and then you take it down.

1522
01:16:22,093 --> 01:16:23,893
Speaker 12: I ended to Julie and she starts.

1523
01:16:23,613 --> 01:16:26,693
Speaker 3: Taking yeah, nice, yes, exactly.

1524
01:16:27,013 --> 01:16:29,133
Speaker 12: You don't have to buck around up there. So this

1525
01:16:29,213 --> 01:16:31,693
Speaker 12: is how it went. And then you realized that.

1526
01:16:31,613 --> 01:16:34,213
Speaker 16: It wasn't me that actually invented it, because I saw

1527
01:16:34,253 --> 01:16:36,573
Speaker 16: it in the in the Helenda.

1528
01:16:36,213 --> 01:16:39,573
Speaker 12: Ellen's book as well. Some people have done that. So

1529
01:16:39,813 --> 01:16:41,173
Speaker 12: all these little bits and pieces.

1530
01:16:41,253 --> 01:16:43,253
Speaker 16: I decided to put that in because it saves you

1531
01:16:43,413 --> 01:16:46,613
Speaker 16: so much time if you want to harvest the damsel plums.

1532
01:16:46,893 --> 01:16:47,373
Speaker 12: It's great.

1533
01:16:48,013 --> 01:16:51,013
Speaker 3: Nice, Yeah, that sounds great. Okay, you've got a little

1534
01:16:51,013 --> 01:16:52,933
Speaker 3: recent for us as well. It's a bit of a

1535
01:16:53,413 --> 01:16:56,293
Speaker 3: mix up I think from Linda's recommendations and Julie's as well. Right,

1536
01:16:56,333 --> 01:16:57,813
Speaker 3: so we're going to make sure we put that up

1537
01:16:58,013 --> 01:17:00,733
Speaker 3: on the news talks he'd be websites so people can

1538
01:17:01,013 --> 01:17:02,653
Speaker 3: make a bit of a bit of a spread as

1539
01:17:02,693 --> 01:17:05,293
Speaker 3: well with their damse and plums because they because are

1540
01:17:05,333 --> 01:17:07,133
Speaker 3: they how sweet are they coming off the tree or

1541
01:17:07,173 --> 01:17:09,133
Speaker 3: coming off the freshly prune branches?

1542
01:17:10,373 --> 01:17:12,173
Speaker 12: They are not that sweet. So you put a bit

1543
01:17:12,173 --> 01:17:15,613
Speaker 12: of sugar. Yeah, absolutely.

1544
01:17:16,053 --> 01:17:18,053
Speaker 16: And one thing you have to remember that's good for

1545
01:17:18,133 --> 01:17:20,893
Speaker 16: your teeth is to make sure that you take all

1546
01:17:20,973 --> 01:17:25,213
Speaker 16: these bickle hard seeds out of the gym because if

1547
01:17:25,293 --> 01:17:29,413
Speaker 16: you make one mistake, I don't think some cross would

1548
01:17:29,413 --> 01:17:29,933
Speaker 16: be impressed.

1549
01:17:30,053 --> 01:17:32,213
Speaker 3: No, no, no, there's a couple of crack mollers. No

1550
01:17:32,293 --> 01:17:35,213
Speaker 3: one wants that very much, sir. I hope you've enjoyed.

1551
01:17:36,053 --> 01:17:37,653
Speaker 3: I hope you've enjoyed joy and your cousin around the

1552
01:17:37,693 --> 01:17:39,293
Speaker 3: place as well. And we will see you next Yes,

1553
01:17:39,693 --> 01:17:42,253
Speaker 3: root climb past in the garden for us after eleven

1554
01:17:42,253 --> 01:17:45,413
Speaker 3: o'clock on news Talk. Z'd be travel correspondent is taking

1555
01:17:45,493 --> 01:17:48,733
Speaker 3: us to the west coast of the US, strolling along

1556
01:17:48,813 --> 01:17:52,813
Speaker 3: the coastline to Santa Monica in LA As well as that,

1557
01:17:52,893 --> 01:17:54,613
Speaker 3: we've got your book picks for this week, including the

1558
01:17:54,693 --> 01:17:57,573
Speaker 3: latest from Jojo Moy's new music from the lumin Ears,

1559
01:17:57,773 --> 01:18:03,293
Speaker 3: looking forward to that, plus big life changes what things

1560
01:18:03,333 --> 01:18:04,773
Speaker 3: are like at your place, but we're going through a

1561
01:18:04,813 --> 01:18:07,773
Speaker 3: few at mine at the moment a clinical psychologist, as

1562
01:18:07,813 --> 01:18:10,613
Speaker 3: well as after the eleven o'clock News with some really

1563
01:18:10,933 --> 01:18:14,253
Speaker 3: useful practical tips on navigating big life changes. News is

1564
01:18:14,293 --> 01:18:16,413
Speaker 3: next up. It's almost eleven on News Talks.

1565
01:18:16,413 --> 01:18:26,813
Speaker 1: Bticle Saturday Mornings with Jack Day keeping the conversation going

1566
01:18:26,893 --> 01:18:30,013
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1568
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Speaker 3: What's the word for a goka without an engine? You know,

1569
01:19:00,133 --> 01:19:02,533
Speaker 3: like a homemade goka? You know, Like, do you call

1570
01:19:02,573 --> 01:19:04,373
Speaker 3: it a trolley? You do call it a trolley A

1571
01:19:04,533 --> 01:19:07,333
Speaker 3: but it's weird, it feels weird, doesn't feel right to me.

1572
01:19:07,413 --> 01:19:09,373
Speaker 3: A trolley. I'm going to make a trolley like a

1573
01:19:09,453 --> 01:19:13,173
Speaker 3: trolley something you collect food within a supermarket, don't you know. Anyway,

1574
01:19:14,453 --> 01:19:19,173
Speaker 3: it's just been bothering me all morning. Conditions for the

1575
01:19:19,413 --> 01:19:22,733
Speaker 3: Red Bull Trolley Grand Prix looking a little bit overcast

1576
01:19:23,013 --> 01:19:26,373
Speaker 3: in the O nine in Auckland for this afternoon's racing.

1577
01:19:26,453 --> 01:19:29,653
Speaker 3: It's the tenth time they've held in Auckland's domain. Thousands

1578
01:19:29,653 --> 01:19:31,013
Speaker 3: of people are going to be going along and watching it.

1579
01:19:31,133 --> 01:19:33,613
Speaker 3: It's just so much fun. The whole thing is just

1580
01:19:33,653 --> 01:19:36,733
Speaker 3: a bit of a celebration. But they do reckonckd There

1581
01:19:36,773 --> 01:19:38,293
Speaker 3: could be a little bit of rain this afternoon. Not

1582
01:19:38,373 --> 01:19:40,093
Speaker 3: sure how that's going to affect the handling for some

1583
01:19:40,173 --> 01:19:42,013
Speaker 3: of those trolleys. It probably doesn't affect them quite as

1584
01:19:42,053 --> 01:19:43,733
Speaker 3: much as it does in Formula one or anything like that.

1585
01:19:43,853 --> 01:19:45,413
Speaker 3: If you can think of another word, it is trolley.

1586
01:19:45,493 --> 01:19:48,733
Speaker 3: I'm sure it's trolley anyway. That kicks off just after

1587
01:19:49,013 --> 01:19:51,893
Speaker 3: midday today. Big afternoon is sport. You've got that, You've

1588
01:19:51,893 --> 01:19:54,853
Speaker 3: got Super Rugby, the Chiefs and the Blues. Tonight you've

1589
01:19:54,893 --> 01:19:59,093
Speaker 3: got the Warriors of course in their last pre season

1590
01:19:59,133 --> 01:20:01,773
Speaker 3: match against the Storm and the Tron. Thousands of tickets

1591
01:20:01,773 --> 01:20:04,013
Speaker 3: sold for that game, eighteen thousands at last count. So

1592
01:20:04,373 --> 01:20:06,973
Speaker 3: big weekend of sport Elliott's that will be taking you

1593
01:20:07,013 --> 01:20:09,173
Speaker 3: through the afternoon with weekend sports that we're going to

1594
01:20:09,213 --> 01:20:12,173
Speaker 3: catch up with him very shortly before midday though new

1595
01:20:12,253 --> 01:20:15,133
Speaker 3: music from the lumin Ears, their fifth album has just

1596
01:20:15,213 --> 01:20:16,853
Speaker 3: been released and they've gone in a little bit of

1597
01:20:16,893 --> 01:20:18,813
Speaker 3: a different direction, so I'll make sure we save some

1598
01:20:18,933 --> 01:20:21,173
Speaker 3: space and play some of that very shortly. Right now though,

1599
01:20:21,213 --> 01:20:24,453
Speaker 3: it's eight minutes past eleven, Jack team time to catch

1600
01:20:24,573 --> 01:20:28,053
Speaker 3: up with our clinical psychologist. Google Sutherland is with us

1601
01:20:28,133 --> 01:20:28,573
Speaker 3: this morning.

1602
01:20:28,653 --> 01:20:30,893
Speaker 15: Cald A, good morning, Good morning, Jack.

1603
01:20:30,933 --> 01:20:32,613
Speaker 3: How are you. I'm very well, thank you. I think

1604
01:20:32,653 --> 01:20:34,573
Speaker 3: you and I have a few things in common at

1605
01:20:34,573 --> 01:20:36,653
Speaker 3: the moment in that both of our families are going

1606
01:20:36,693 --> 01:20:37,893
Speaker 3: through some big life changes.

1607
01:20:38,733 --> 01:20:38,933
Speaker 25: Yeah.

1608
01:20:39,333 --> 01:20:42,653
Speaker 26: Absolutely, yes, I was thinking about this this week and

1609
01:20:42,853 --> 01:20:46,653
Speaker 26: about how you've got an impending arrival and we had

1610
01:20:48,453 --> 01:20:51,493
Speaker 26: our first grandchild arrived into our family just before just

1611
01:20:51,573 --> 01:20:53,093
Speaker 26: before New Year actually, which.

1612
01:20:53,253 --> 01:20:54,253
Speaker 15: Which was pretty cool.

1613
01:20:54,373 --> 01:20:56,933
Speaker 3: Congratulations, thank you, thank you.

1614
01:20:57,133 --> 01:20:58,613
Speaker 15: Yeah, it's still getting my head round that.

1615
01:20:58,813 --> 01:21:00,893
Speaker 26: And then I'm also getting my head round the fact

1616
01:21:00,933 --> 01:21:03,813
Speaker 26: that our younger daughter is we're taking her up to

1617
01:21:03,893 --> 01:21:06,413
Speaker 26: Auckland this weekend act.

1618
01:21:06,493 --> 01:21:08,813
Speaker 15: Le to start at UNI.

1619
01:21:09,053 --> 01:21:13,493
Speaker 26: And yeah, it's a very you know, those big phases

1620
01:21:13,533 --> 01:21:16,293
Speaker 26: of family life are quite big mark as I think

1621
01:21:16,853 --> 01:21:18,173
Speaker 26: for any family to go through.

1622
01:21:18,333 --> 01:21:21,013
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's funny because they can. I mean, there are

1623
01:21:21,173 --> 01:21:24,053
Speaker 3: some obvious upsides and reasons for celebration and all of that.

1624
01:21:24,293 --> 01:21:27,053
Speaker 3: But when you go through change, especially when you've been

1625
01:21:27,093 --> 01:21:29,213
Speaker 3: in a family that has you know, kind of had

1626
01:21:29,253 --> 01:21:32,413
Speaker 3: consistency or not necessarily routine, but you know you've kind

1627
01:21:32,493 --> 01:21:35,413
Speaker 3: of the shape of a family has been you know,

1628
01:21:35,733 --> 01:21:37,493
Speaker 3: a certain way for a while, it can be a

1629
01:21:37,613 --> 01:21:40,133
Speaker 3: little little bit upset unsettling, right.

1630
01:21:41,533 --> 01:21:44,373
Speaker 26: Yeah, absolutely, And actually I really like that term, that

1631
01:21:44,533 --> 01:21:48,773
Speaker 26: shape of the family, because you're right, it changes and

1632
01:21:48,853 --> 01:21:51,493
Speaker 26: it morphs. And I often think about it too, like

1633
01:21:51,573 --> 01:21:54,653
Speaker 26: a bit of a metaphor springs to mind for me.

1634
01:21:54,813 --> 01:21:57,613
Speaker 26: Sometimes it is about, you know, a ship setting out

1635
01:21:58,333 --> 01:22:03,253
Speaker 26: to see and setting off on a voyage and you're

1636
01:22:03,293 --> 01:22:04,853
Speaker 26: kind of into uncharted territory.

1637
01:22:04,973 --> 01:22:08,573
Speaker 15: Yeah, you know, and you're not quite sure where you're going.

1638
01:22:08,653 --> 01:22:11,453
Speaker 26: You've never been here before. And there's lots of people

1639
01:22:11,533 --> 01:22:14,453
Speaker 26: that have been on similar journeys and who could give

1640
01:22:14,453 --> 01:22:17,173
Speaker 26: you all the advice that you'll you know, they want to,

1641
01:22:17,373 --> 01:22:19,453
Speaker 26: but it's not quite the same as doing it in

1642
01:22:19,533 --> 01:22:23,373
Speaker 26: your own journey, and it's uncharted waters, and that's it

1643
01:22:23,493 --> 01:22:26,853
Speaker 26: can be quite disruptive for people just just you know,

1644
01:22:27,013 --> 01:22:29,413
Speaker 26: not in a just more in a sort of a subtle,

1645
01:22:29,493 --> 01:22:33,853
Speaker 26: ongoing way rather necessarily than one huge, big thing. But yeah,

1646
01:22:33,853 --> 01:22:35,373
Speaker 26: it can be really unsettling for families.

1647
01:22:35,453 --> 01:22:38,053
Speaker 3: Okay, well you've got some really useful practical tips for

1648
01:22:38,253 --> 01:22:41,973
Speaker 3: just managing the immediacy of those big life changes, then

1649
01:22:41,973 --> 01:22:42,933
Speaker 3: why don't you run us through them?

1650
01:22:43,613 --> 01:22:44,253
Speaker 15: Yeah? Sure.

1651
01:22:44,333 --> 01:22:44,373
Speaker 9: So.

1652
01:22:44,613 --> 01:22:46,693
Speaker 26: Look, I was thinking about what would I say if

1653
01:22:46,733 --> 01:22:49,413
Speaker 26: somebody said, what are your three three top tips?

1654
01:22:49,653 --> 01:22:51,373
Speaker 15: So I'm trying to narrow them down to three.

1655
01:22:51,493 --> 01:22:55,773
Speaker 26: So firstly, and actually you're I think you were talking

1656
01:22:55,773 --> 01:22:57,733
Speaker 26: a little bit about this last week about how you're

1657
01:22:58,133 --> 01:23:00,853
Speaker 26: a man that likes sort of routine and pattern and

1658
01:23:01,973 --> 01:23:03,853
Speaker 26: you know, likes to do the same thing, you know,

1659
01:23:04,013 --> 01:23:07,893
Speaker 26: have your coffee the same way, And I think you

1660
01:23:07,973 --> 01:23:10,773
Speaker 26: know there's something in that about having some really nice

1661
01:23:11,013 --> 01:23:15,813
Speaker 26: rhythms to your day, having some things that you know,

1662
01:23:16,333 --> 01:23:18,613
Speaker 26: I sort of like tent holes that are that will

1663
01:23:18,653 --> 01:23:22,013
Speaker 26: help keep you stable. So whether that's whether that's you know,

1664
01:23:22,133 --> 01:23:25,693
Speaker 26: going to the gym every day or most days, or

1665
01:23:25,813 --> 01:23:28,653
Speaker 26: whether that's having meals at a particular time or you know,

1666
01:23:28,813 --> 01:23:33,893
Speaker 26: family meals, but just some some rhythms that happen throughout

1667
01:23:33,973 --> 01:23:36,413
Speaker 26: your day most days. If not all days that just

1668
01:23:36,693 --> 01:23:41,213
Speaker 26: keep you grounded, They keep you coming back and when

1669
01:23:41,253 --> 01:23:43,773
Speaker 26: everything else can send chaotic or turbulent, these are the

1670
01:23:43,853 --> 01:23:46,253
Speaker 26: things that can help just give life a bit of

1671
01:23:46,373 --> 01:23:47,373
Speaker 26: shape and a bit of sense.

1672
01:23:47,493 --> 01:23:49,053
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like a touchstone.

1673
01:23:49,093 --> 01:23:49,253
Speaker 6: Eh.

1674
01:23:50,093 --> 01:23:53,133
Speaker 15: Yeah, yeah, that's a good way I'm thinking about it. Yeah. Yeah,

1675
01:23:53,293 --> 01:23:54,293
Speaker 15: so that's number one.

1676
01:23:54,413 --> 01:23:58,773
Speaker 26: Number two would be as much as possible, And obviously

1677
01:23:58,893 --> 01:24:00,853
Speaker 26: this is this is more difficult if you've got a

1678
01:24:00,933 --> 01:24:04,333
Speaker 26: new baby just about to arrive. But keeping those bookends

1679
01:24:04,413 --> 01:24:09,133
Speaker 26: of your day reasonably can a stunt, you know, getting

1680
01:24:09,213 --> 01:24:12,173
Speaker 26: up at roughly the same time and going to bear

1681
01:24:12,293 --> 01:24:15,733
Speaker 26: at roughly the same time. This sounds like, this sounds

1682
01:24:15,973 --> 01:24:18,813
Speaker 26: you know, in some ways, I think people can overlook

1683
01:24:19,853 --> 01:24:22,173
Speaker 26: how this sounds simple, and I think people can overlook

1684
01:24:22,213 --> 01:24:26,093
Speaker 26: how that how how simple but effective it is. You know,

1685
01:24:26,253 --> 01:24:29,533
Speaker 26: have a lieon shure sometimes and you know people have

1686
01:24:29,653 --> 01:24:32,373
Speaker 26: late nights, all good. But keeping that sort of those

1687
01:24:32,453 --> 01:24:34,893
Speaker 26: book ends of the day, the start and the end

1688
01:24:35,493 --> 01:24:38,853
Speaker 26: reasonably fixed as much as you can, I think, really

1689
01:24:38,973 --> 01:24:41,893
Speaker 26: help keep stability. If we go back to that metaphor

1690
01:24:41,973 --> 01:24:45,253
Speaker 26: of the ship, it helps the ship keep sailing smoothly,

1691
01:24:45,773 --> 01:24:47,693
Speaker 26: or at least as smoothly as it can when things

1692
01:24:47,773 --> 01:24:49,733
Speaker 26: get a bit when the weather gets.

1693
01:24:49,533 --> 01:24:51,893
Speaker 3: A bit still, Yeah, nice, And what's your third tip?

1694
01:24:52,893 --> 01:24:56,413
Speaker 26: Third one is really around our relationships without with each other,

1695
01:24:56,533 --> 01:25:00,253
Speaker 26: that that you know, these times of family change, when

1696
01:25:00,373 --> 01:25:02,893
Speaker 26: when you're the shape of your family is changing, can

1697
01:25:03,933 --> 01:25:07,453
Speaker 26: can result in you know, some tension, some a little

1698
01:25:07,493 --> 01:25:09,573
Speaker 26: bit of friction from time to time, whether that's because

1699
01:25:09,613 --> 01:25:12,373
Speaker 26: you've disrupted, you know, you're down on sleep, or where

1700
01:25:12,373 --> 01:25:18,773
Speaker 26: they're just not feeling quite right. And so practicing forgiveness practice,

1701
01:25:18,813 --> 01:25:22,933
Speaker 26: assuming that the other people that you were talking to

1702
01:25:23,093 --> 01:25:26,773
Speaker 26: are engaging with come from a place, from a good place,

1703
01:25:26,813 --> 01:25:30,333
Speaker 26: They've got a good intentions. They're not out to deliberately

1704
01:25:30,733 --> 01:25:33,173
Speaker 26: muck things up or say things to hurt you. But

1705
01:25:33,973 --> 01:25:37,053
Speaker 26: they But we when we're under stress, we all kind

1706
01:25:37,093 --> 01:25:40,453
Speaker 26: of can do or say things that we wish we hadn't.

1707
01:25:40,533 --> 01:25:44,093
Speaker 26: And so adopting that stance going in and saying, actually,

1708
01:25:44,213 --> 01:25:48,293
Speaker 26: let's just forgive each other and practice forgiving as much

1709
01:25:48,333 --> 01:25:51,133
Speaker 26: as we can so that those so that you avoid

1710
01:25:51,213 --> 01:25:53,613
Speaker 26: that sort of layer It's almost like pancakes on a

1711
01:25:53,653 --> 01:25:55,333
Speaker 26: plate can layer up and up and up. So it's

1712
01:25:55,333 --> 01:25:58,133
Speaker 26: about forgiving and getting those pancakes off the plate.

1713
01:25:58,693 --> 01:26:01,493
Speaker 3: Hey, look, I'm always one for getting pancakes off a plate,

1714
01:26:02,253 --> 01:26:06,413
Speaker 3: you know me. Absolutely no, that's such good advice. And

1715
01:26:07,053 --> 01:26:09,533
Speaker 3: thank you, good good luck for the trip to the

1716
01:26:09,613 --> 01:26:13,253
Speaker 3: O nine and for this big change. And hopefully if

1717
01:26:13,293 --> 01:26:15,453
Speaker 3: you've got a bit of the empty Nesta vibes, then

1718
01:26:15,573 --> 01:26:17,693
Speaker 3: hopefully you can make that up with your new grandchild.

1719
01:26:17,773 --> 01:26:19,173
Speaker 3: And you know one will last shit the other.

1720
01:26:20,133 --> 01:26:22,653
Speaker 26: Yeah, look, thanks Jack, and good luck for your impending

1721
01:26:22,733 --> 01:26:23,293
Speaker 26: arrival too.

1722
01:26:23,413 --> 01:26:25,693
Speaker 15: It's goes really well.

1723
01:26:25,973 --> 01:26:28,173
Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you so much. Doogle, Google subtle and from

1724
01:26:28,253 --> 01:26:31,373
Speaker 3: Umbrella Well Being. Then we sorted it. It's not a

1725
01:26:31,413 --> 01:26:33,813
Speaker 3: belly cat, although that was a good suggestion. It's not

1726
01:26:33,973 --> 01:26:38,053
Speaker 3: a no go cart. It's also a good suggestion. The

1727
01:26:38,173 --> 01:26:41,773
Speaker 3: word I've been looking for all morning was soapbox. Yes,

1728
01:26:42,213 --> 01:26:44,893
Speaker 3: because the Americans, right, they call them soapbox, like a

1729
01:26:44,973 --> 01:26:47,053
Speaker 3: soapbox and derby or do they call it a derby?

1730
01:26:47,093 --> 01:26:50,853
Speaker 3: They probably called a derby a soapbox derby. But yeah,

1731
01:26:50,853 --> 01:26:53,413
Speaker 3: a soapbox derby. But it still feels weird if you

1732
01:26:53,453 --> 01:26:55,413
Speaker 3: call it a soapbox, because you feel like I feel

1733
01:26:55,413 --> 01:26:58,653
Speaker 3: like a preacher stands on a soapbox. Right, No, maybe

1734
01:26:58,693 --> 01:27:01,413
Speaker 3: not anyway, that's what they're that's what they're racing an

1735
01:27:01,413 --> 01:27:03,333
Speaker 3: Awkcland's domain this afternoon. So that should be a whole

1736
01:27:03,333 --> 01:27:06,253
Speaker 3: lot of fun. Right now, it is quarter past to leave.

1737
01:27:06,413 --> 01:27:08,893
Speaker 3: We're going to take you La next. Our travel correspondent

1738
01:27:08,933 --> 01:27:10,613
Speaker 3: has just visited Santa Monica.

1739
01:27:12,013 --> 01:27:15,933
Speaker 2: Travel with Wendy Wuturs. Where the World is yours book now?

1740
01:27:16,533 --> 01:27:19,613
Speaker 3: Yeah, travel correspondent is Mike Yardley and he's with us

1741
01:27:19,693 --> 01:27:21,253
Speaker 3: this morning. Kilder, Mike Kilder.

1742
01:27:21,373 --> 01:27:21,533
Speaker 25: Jack.

1743
01:27:21,653 --> 01:27:24,733
Speaker 10: Now, Kyle Preston. I believe till Major could be handing

1744
01:27:24,813 --> 01:27:25,853
Speaker 10: him the keys to the city.

1745
01:27:26,653 --> 01:27:30,053
Speaker 3: Three tries on debut, So let's be honest. Kyle probably

1746
01:27:30,973 --> 01:27:32,893
Speaker 3: wasn't expecting to get on the park last night. Nor

1747
01:27:33,213 --> 01:27:34,893
Speaker 3: maybe he wouldn't have been expecting to get on for

1748
01:27:34,933 --> 01:27:36,813
Speaker 3: seventy minutes. He might have been thinking, you get fifteen

1749
01:27:36,853 --> 01:27:39,893
Speaker 3: minutes at the end, right, yeah, James, Yeah exactly. And

1750
01:27:40,013 --> 01:27:43,533
Speaker 3: to score, to score three tries on debut having signed

1751
01:27:43,573 --> 01:27:45,813
Speaker 3: from Wellington, it cannot get much sweeter than that.

1752
01:27:46,573 --> 01:27:48,613
Speaker 10: I happened to be in Wellington today, but I won't

1753
01:27:48,693 --> 01:27:49,213
Speaker 10: be boasting.

1754
01:27:49,573 --> 01:27:53,693
Speaker 3: No, keep your keep your hometown very quiet as my

1755
01:27:53,773 --> 01:27:55,333
Speaker 3: advice to you. I mean, there is another way to

1756
01:27:55,373 --> 01:27:57,013
Speaker 3: look at it, though, Mike, as I was saying earlier,

1757
01:27:57,253 --> 01:28:00,853
Speaker 3: you know, I think how many of those Championship Crusaders

1758
01:28:00,933 --> 01:28:05,173
Speaker 3: seasons started with losses. If you're a statistician, you might

1759
01:28:05,333 --> 01:28:09,173
Speaker 3: actually be really concerned that they had a triumphant victory

1760
01:28:09,213 --> 01:28:11,893
Speaker 3: over the old Faux last night. You know that's true,

1761
01:28:12,173 --> 01:28:14,933
Speaker 3: But no, given last season, very very pleased with the

1762
01:28:15,893 --> 01:28:16,813
Speaker 3: first game last.

1763
01:28:16,693 --> 01:28:17,853
Speaker 10: Night, encouraging.

1764
01:28:18,093 --> 01:28:21,613
Speaker 3: Yes, anyway, we're turning our attentions to another side of

1765
01:28:21,693 --> 01:28:25,013
Speaker 3: the Pacific this morning, the spirit of Santa Monica, and

1766
01:28:25,133 --> 01:28:28,093
Speaker 3: it is all about sand, surf and sunsets of Santa Monica.

1767
01:28:28,173 --> 01:28:29,773
Speaker 3: Do you have any favorite perchase?

1768
01:28:30,693 --> 01:28:31,333
Speaker 15: I do, Jack.

1769
01:28:31,453 --> 01:28:34,973
Speaker 10: I just love how the intensity of Ala just melts

1770
01:28:35,013 --> 01:28:37,733
Speaker 10: away when you arrive at Santa Monica and you can

1771
01:28:37,813 --> 01:28:40,573
Speaker 10: sort of understand why Angelino's descend there on the weekend

1772
01:28:40,693 --> 01:28:43,533
Speaker 10: and such numbers to decompress. But if you want to

1773
01:28:43,573 --> 01:28:46,853
Speaker 10: get to Bearings as the first timer to the scene,

1774
01:28:47,053 --> 01:28:49,813
Speaker 10: I reckon there's two great spots. Palisades Park, which is

1775
01:28:50,053 --> 01:28:53,893
Speaker 10: a top that huge bluff above Pacific Coast Highway AUSO

1776
01:28:53,973 --> 01:28:56,533
Speaker 10: motion views and you get that long lens view down

1777
01:28:57,013 --> 01:29:01,173
Speaker 10: onto the pier. And another Swell purchased the beautifully designed

1778
01:29:01,613 --> 01:29:04,333
Speaker 10: Tonga Park, which is named in honor of the area's

1779
01:29:04,373 --> 01:29:11,213
Speaker 10: indigenous people. And I've got he's fabulously designed wire frame lookouts,

1780
01:29:11,293 --> 01:29:15,693
Speaker 10: the like giant concures and you can just walk into

1781
01:29:15,773 --> 01:29:19,733
Speaker 10: them and you're just wracked in this beautiful like steel

1782
01:29:19,813 --> 01:29:22,533
Speaker 10: wire frame looking at on the Pacific. That is a

1783
01:29:22,653 --> 01:29:23,213
Speaker 10: choice spot.

1784
01:29:23,373 --> 01:29:25,613
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, oh that sounds amazing. Did you check out

1785
01:29:25,693 --> 01:29:28,053
Speaker 3: Venus Well, I don't.

1786
01:29:27,893 --> 01:29:30,973
Speaker 10: Know you about you, Jack, but Venus s beech Man.

1787
01:29:31,413 --> 01:29:34,653
Speaker 10: Every time I go there, it seems kookier and crazier,

1788
01:29:35,893 --> 01:29:39,653
Speaker 10: a hot mess of life's rich tapestry. Perhaps there's a

1789
01:29:39,733 --> 01:29:43,053
Speaker 10: nice way of putting it, but it's colorful. And I

1790
01:29:43,173 --> 01:29:45,133
Speaker 10: have to say, if you share my weakness for cheap

1791
01:29:45,213 --> 01:29:49,253
Speaker 10: graphic T shirts, Venus Beach is hard to beat. Really

1792
01:29:49,333 --> 01:29:52,453
Speaker 10: good bargains down there and very graphic, and I'm in

1793
01:29:52,533 --> 01:29:56,933
Speaker 10: graphic in every sense t shirt. I actually went on

1794
01:29:57,053 --> 01:29:59,573
Speaker 10: a bike down from Santa Monica to Venice, which is

1795
01:29:59,613 --> 01:30:01,653
Speaker 10: I think from memory, about five k but you can

1796
01:30:01,733 --> 01:30:05,453
Speaker 10: actually keep going on that cracking cycle path the Marvin

1797
01:30:05,573 --> 01:30:09,373
Speaker 10: Broad Trailer all the way to Marina del Rey, and

1798
01:30:09,933 --> 01:30:11,613
Speaker 10: if you want to do a guided bike to it.

1799
01:30:11,693 --> 01:30:16,133
Speaker 10: They do some really cool stocks outside former homes of

1800
01:30:16,173 --> 01:30:20,133
Speaker 10: the likes of Jim Morrison, Charlie Chaplin, and I also

1801
01:30:20,213 --> 01:30:22,613
Speaker 10: saw Frank Geiy's home now. He of course is one

1802
01:30:22,613 --> 01:30:25,613
Speaker 10: of America's great architects. Think of Walt Disney Concert Hall

1803
01:30:25,693 --> 01:30:30,453
Speaker 10: in La. It's home Jack Frank Airi's so odd. It's

1804
01:30:30,493 --> 01:30:34,973
Speaker 10: sort of like hay Barn meshed with a loft apartment.

1805
01:30:35,133 --> 01:30:36,853
Speaker 10: It's the weirdest looking house I.

1806
01:30:36,933 --> 01:30:39,973
Speaker 3: Have seen, really, and by the beach as well, which

1807
01:30:40,053 --> 01:30:44,013
Speaker 3: is very curious. Okay, that sounds interesting. I mean Santa

1808
01:30:44,053 --> 01:30:47,093
Speaker 3: Monica is you know, they're all about the beach sports,

1809
01:30:47,133 --> 01:30:49,773
Speaker 3: the UC people playing frisbee and stuff and you know,

1810
01:30:49,973 --> 01:30:52,813
Speaker 3: and macking around. But it's really the birthplace of beach

1811
01:30:52,893 --> 01:30:54,533
Speaker 3: volleyball A definitely.

1812
01:30:54,653 --> 01:30:57,613
Speaker 10: Yeah. I think how Waii says they invented it as

1813
01:30:57,653 --> 01:31:00,053
Speaker 10: it was actually Send Monica.

1814
01:30:59,853 --> 01:31:01,453
Speaker 3: That popularized it.

1815
01:31:01,733 --> 01:31:03,013
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, very much.

1816
01:31:03,213 --> 01:31:06,653
Speaker 10: And they also developed it into the tour side game

1817
01:31:06,773 --> 01:31:08,733
Speaker 10: that you know, were associated with the look at Games

1818
01:31:08,773 --> 01:31:11,653
Speaker 10: for example, which is why, of course obviously that beach

1819
01:31:11,733 --> 01:31:14,773
Speaker 10: will play host to the sport at the twenty eight Games.

1820
01:31:15,093 --> 01:31:18,933
Speaker 10: I also headed to Dogtown Coffee Jack, the reason being

1821
01:31:19,093 --> 01:31:23,533
Speaker 10: that building is considered the birthplace of modern skateboarding, so

1822
01:31:24,773 --> 01:31:27,573
Speaker 10: previously the cafe, and they do a great job sort

1823
01:31:27,613 --> 01:31:30,853
Speaker 10: of paying homage to the history. There was a business

1824
01:31:30,893 --> 01:31:34,733
Speaker 10: called Zephyr Productions that used to be based at Dogtown Coffee.

1825
01:31:34,813 --> 01:31:37,933
Speaker 10: They made surfboards right back in the seventies, but they

1826
01:31:38,093 --> 01:31:42,133
Speaker 10: noticed that for Surfe's and Santa Monica, if the waves

1827
01:31:42,173 --> 01:31:44,653
Speaker 10: were small, they wanted to do something else, so they

1828
01:31:44,773 --> 01:31:49,573
Speaker 10: developed these really aggressive skateboards so that surface could have

1829
01:31:49,693 --> 01:31:50,853
Speaker 10: a ride on the dry land.

1830
01:31:51,093 --> 01:31:53,533
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh that's amazing, that's so cool. So what would

1831
01:31:53,533 --> 01:31:56,373
Speaker 3: you rate is the must dos on Santa Monica pier itself.

1832
01:31:56,893 --> 01:31:59,533
Speaker 10: Well, you've got to get that cliche selfie at the

1833
01:31:59,613 --> 01:32:03,333
Speaker 10: end of the trial route sixty six sign. Then I

1834
01:32:03,453 --> 01:32:05,893
Speaker 10: took a ride on the World's Only Soul about Ferris

1835
01:32:05,973 --> 01:32:09,093
Speaker 10: wheeld Ones with one hundred and sixty thousand dazzling LEDs,

1836
01:32:09,173 --> 01:32:12,333
Speaker 10: and I thought I did a light shoe in my place. Man,

1837
01:32:14,013 --> 01:32:16,533
Speaker 10: you will not get a better aerial view of the

1838
01:32:16,653 --> 01:32:19,493
Speaker 10: coast than from that fair as well. It's just incredible

1839
01:32:19,853 --> 01:32:21,853
Speaker 10: and down the right at the end of the pear.

1840
01:32:23,173 --> 01:32:28,213
Speaker 10: I loved this little Baha style canteena Maria Soul. If

1841
01:32:28,293 --> 01:32:32,093
Speaker 10: you like here for heaters and oversized margaritas, you will

1842
01:32:32,173 --> 01:32:34,053
Speaker 10: be in Seventh Heaven at Maria Soul.

1843
01:32:34,333 --> 01:32:37,093
Speaker 3: Cheek what about drinks and eats? Were there any standout

1844
01:32:37,213 --> 01:32:38,053
Speaker 3: venues you fancy?

1845
01:32:38,653 --> 01:32:39,453
Speaker 15: Yeah, beyond the.

1846
01:32:39,533 --> 01:32:43,573
Speaker 10: Pair, I went to a mistaken seafood venue called Shaye

1847
01:32:43,693 --> 01:32:46,253
Speaker 10: j on the Ocean ab And the reason I went

1848
01:32:46,333 --> 01:32:49,093
Speaker 10: there is because it's got the most incredible history. A

1849
01:32:49,173 --> 01:32:52,773
Speaker 10: guy called Jay Fiondella. He founded it in the fifties

1850
01:32:52,853 --> 01:32:56,453
Speaker 10: and he was like this big town personality of Santa Monica.

1851
01:32:56,493 --> 01:32:58,893
Speaker 10: The celebrity set loved him and there are just so

1852
01:32:59,093 --> 01:33:03,813
Speaker 10: many insane stories. He convinced the astronaut Alan Shepard to

1853
01:33:03,973 --> 01:33:08,133
Speaker 10: take one of the bar's peanuts into space on the

1854
01:33:08,173 --> 01:33:12,293
Speaker 10: Apollo fourteen mission, and then several years later he nuts

1855
01:33:12,373 --> 01:33:15,333
Speaker 10: back on Earth. Steve McQueen went into the bar and

1856
01:33:15,413 --> 01:33:19,573
Speaker 10: nearly ate it. And the other really cool thing is

1857
01:33:19,693 --> 01:33:21,173
Speaker 10: you can look at all the history on the walls.

1858
01:33:21,213 --> 01:33:21,573
Speaker 15: It's show.

1859
01:33:22,213 --> 01:33:25,733
Speaker 10: There is this photograph of circus elephants blowing their trumpets

1860
01:33:25,733 --> 01:33:27,173
Speaker 10: at the bar back in the sixties.

1861
01:33:27,213 --> 01:33:30,613
Speaker 3: So as you do not to suggest that that isn't

1862
01:33:31,213 --> 01:33:34,933
Speaker 3: very cultured, the spot are there any other culture spots

1863
01:33:34,973 --> 01:33:36,213
Speaker 3: you recommend in the neighborhood.

1864
01:33:37,053 --> 01:33:39,453
Speaker 10: Well, if you like your movie history, there's actually this

1865
01:33:40,493 --> 01:33:43,773
Speaker 10: amazing little restaurant. It's the oldest in Santa Monica called

1866
01:33:43,813 --> 01:33:46,653
Speaker 10: the Galley. It's ninety years old this year. The reason

1867
01:33:46,733 --> 01:33:50,333
Speaker 10: it's so special the fits out. It is decorated with

1868
01:33:50,453 --> 01:33:53,293
Speaker 10: the props from the nineteen thirty five musingly on the

1869
01:33:53,373 --> 01:33:55,813
Speaker 10: Bounty film. Wow, I feel like you're just sitting in

1870
01:33:55,853 --> 01:34:00,093
Speaker 10: a film set, white visionary up cycling. You'd have to say, so,

1871
01:34:00,613 --> 01:34:02,373
Speaker 10: you're going here for a clam chowder and a bit

1872
01:34:02,373 --> 01:34:06,253
Speaker 10: of culture. The other thing I really like jack down

1873
01:34:06,453 --> 01:34:09,453
Speaker 10: on Santa Monica Beach, the Singing Beach Chairs. They do

1874
01:34:09,733 --> 01:34:12,253
Speaker 10: really good public arts and Santa Monica, but this would

1875
01:34:12,253 --> 01:34:15,773
Speaker 10: be my favorite stop. These super sized chairs and they're

1876
01:34:15,813 --> 01:34:19,333
Speaker 10: equipped with stainless steel tubes, so you just sit in

1877
01:34:19,413 --> 01:34:22,613
Speaker 10: the chair and those tubes produce all sorts of whimsical

1878
01:34:22,813 --> 01:34:25,973
Speaker 10: musical tones as the breeze blokes. Welcome to Santa Monica.

1879
01:34:26,253 --> 01:34:28,693
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's lovely. I was there a few months ago,

1880
01:34:28,813 --> 01:34:30,213
Speaker 3: so before the fires.

1881
01:34:30,693 --> 01:34:31,013
Speaker 12: It's some.

1882
01:34:32,493 --> 01:34:35,733
Speaker 3: I reckon. It's just one of America's top people watching spots.

1883
01:34:35,933 --> 01:34:38,693
Speaker 3: But walking along that coastline from Venice to Santa Monica.

1884
01:34:38,893 --> 01:34:40,813
Speaker 3: Just you get all I mean, you get the tourists

1885
01:34:40,853 --> 01:34:43,293
Speaker 3: as well, but you just get so many characters they

1886
01:34:43,373 --> 01:34:45,573
Speaker 3: you know, walking along past Muscle Beach and all that

1887
01:34:45,693 --> 01:34:48,453
Speaker 3: kind of stuff. Yeah, I mean, I'm sure, yeah, you know.

1888
01:34:48,573 --> 01:34:49,173
Speaker 3: It's just it is.

1889
01:34:49,293 --> 01:34:51,453
Speaker 10: It is, you know, the carnival of life.

1890
01:34:51,653 --> 01:34:51,853
Speaker 16: It is.

1891
01:34:52,133 --> 01:34:54,973
Speaker 3: It is just all sorts of interesting people. I absolutely

1892
01:34:55,053 --> 01:34:56,533
Speaker 3: love it. So thank you very much for that. We

1893
01:34:56,613 --> 01:34:58,493
Speaker 3: will put all of your tips on newstalks. They'd be

1894
01:34:58,573 --> 01:35:00,013
Speaker 3: website and catch you again next week.

1895
01:35:00,373 --> 01:35:00,613
Speaker 15: Thank you.

1896
01:35:00,773 --> 01:35:00,973
Speaker 25: Jack.

1897
01:35:01,373 --> 01:35:03,733
Speaker 3: That is Mike Hardley, our travel correspondent.

1898
01:35:04,253 --> 01:35:04,493
Speaker 15: Jack.

1899
01:35:04,693 --> 01:35:07,333
Speaker 3: I'm in the seventies. My brother and their friends all

1900
01:35:07,453 --> 01:35:10,733
Speaker 3: used to call trolley's billy carts. I having a clue

1901
01:35:10,733 --> 01:35:12,573
Speaker 3: where the name came from, but my parents called them

1902
01:35:12,613 --> 01:35:15,413
Speaker 3: that too. Trolley Darby's is what they called these days,

1903
01:35:15,613 --> 01:35:18,373
Speaker 3: says Ann Jack. A go kart without a motor we

1904
01:35:18,533 --> 01:35:20,453
Speaker 3: used to call a billy cart and an Australia in

1905
01:35:20,493 --> 01:35:23,693
Speaker 3: the nineteen seventies, says Simon. See, so obviously billy cart

1906
01:35:23,893 --> 01:35:25,213
Speaker 3: is a bit of a Maybe there's a sort of

1907
01:35:25,253 --> 01:35:28,933
Speaker 3: a geographical divide, do we think maybe between soapboxes and

1908
01:35:29,053 --> 01:35:32,293
Speaker 3: billy carts. See as a kid, I always called them

1909
01:35:32,373 --> 01:35:34,933
Speaker 3: go karts, But I see why that gets confused with

1910
01:35:35,013 --> 01:35:37,213
Speaker 3: motorized go cuts. I see you can't maybe have the

1911
01:35:37,253 --> 01:35:40,813
Speaker 3: same name for them both. Non motorized gokut doesn't work

1912
01:35:40,893 --> 01:35:43,013
Speaker 3: quite as well either, does it. In a couple of minutes,

1913
01:35:43,013 --> 01:35:44,813
Speaker 3: we'll catch up with Alex Smith. He has a very

1914
01:35:44,973 --> 01:35:47,933
Speaker 3: very busy show planned for us on Newstalk's EDB Weekend

1915
01:35:48,013 --> 01:35:50,773
Speaker 3: Sport this afternoon, right after the midday news with all

1916
01:35:50,933 --> 01:35:53,493
Speaker 3: sorts of sporting action this weekend. Right now, though it

1917
01:35:53,573 --> 01:35:55,453
Speaker 3: is twenty seven minutes past eleven.

1918
01:35:59,893 --> 01:36:03,813
Speaker 1: Getting your weekends started, It's Saturday morning with Jack Team

1919
01:36:04,253 --> 01:36:05,333
Speaker 1: on News Talks EDB.

1920
01:36:17,933 --> 01:36:24,013
Speaker 3: This this is Kendrick Lamar. You probably saw him in

1921
01:36:24,053 --> 01:36:26,813
Speaker 3: the Super Bowl halftime show the other day. I thought

1922
01:36:26,853 --> 01:36:30,173
Speaker 3: it was pretty good. I feel, I feel if you've

1923
01:36:30,173 --> 01:36:33,333
Speaker 3: been following the beef between Kendrick Lamar and Drake, basically

1924
01:36:33,413 --> 01:36:36,813
Speaker 3: his entire Kendrick Lamar's entire Super Bowl show was dedicated

1925
01:36:36,933 --> 01:36:46,093
Speaker 3: to stomping on Drake's grave and humiliating him and what

1926
01:36:46,253 --> 01:36:50,893
Speaker 3: has become probably the greatest rap battle of this or

1927
01:36:50,973 --> 01:36:54,493
Speaker 3: wrapper battle of this of this century. Anyway, I started

1928
01:36:54,493 --> 01:36:57,453
Speaker 3: to feel bit bad for Drake. Actually, if anything, Elliot

1929
01:36:57,533 --> 01:36:59,733
Speaker 3: Smith was I'm sure watching the Super Bowl for other

1930
01:36:59,773 --> 01:37:03,173
Speaker 3: reasons on Monday and his and for weekend suport this afternoon,

1931
01:37:03,173 --> 01:37:03,773
Speaker 3: Good morning, sir.

1932
01:37:03,933 --> 01:37:06,733
Speaker 27: Morning, both were equally well that it was better than

1933
01:37:06,773 --> 01:37:08,893
Speaker 27: the game itself that the halftime show, because the game

1934
01:37:08,933 --> 01:37:09,493
Speaker 27: was a bit of a dud.

1935
01:37:09,533 --> 01:37:11,413
Speaker 3: It was a blowout in the end. It was such

1936
01:37:11,493 --> 01:37:14,133
Speaker 3: a bad game of football. Yeah, it was really poor.

1937
01:37:14,213 --> 01:37:17,173
Speaker 3: Its just yeah, it was just totally one side today.

1938
01:37:17,293 --> 01:37:19,733
Speaker 27: If you're you just want a good game a game

1939
01:37:19,893 --> 01:37:22,373
Speaker 27: homes didn't turn up and the Eagles just monster monster

1940
01:37:22,493 --> 01:37:23,133
Speaker 27: and was very.

1941
01:37:23,133 --> 01:37:25,213
Speaker 3: Prison Yeah, yeah, it was amazing. Really, what did you

1942
01:37:25,213 --> 01:37:29,693
Speaker 3: think about Kendrick Lamar's fleared jeans. I wouldn't with myself, No,

1943
01:37:29,813 --> 01:37:31,893
Speaker 3: that would I know, I'm just not you know how

1944
01:37:32,333 --> 01:37:36,413
Speaker 3: all fashions were in cycles, right, but I just I

1945
01:37:36,613 --> 01:37:39,253
Speaker 3: just don't know. I just can't see myself pulling that

1946
01:37:39,333 --> 01:37:39,613
Speaker 3: on off.

1947
01:37:39,693 --> 01:37:42,173
Speaker 27: I'm sure I used to wear similar sort of jeans

1948
01:37:42,253 --> 01:37:46,333
Speaker 27: like that. Yeah, that very long time ago, maybe twenty

1949
01:37:46,453 --> 01:37:49,213
Speaker 27: years ago, but that was before.

1950
01:37:50,413 --> 01:37:50,613
Speaker 15: Yeah.

1951
01:37:52,253 --> 01:37:56,013
Speaker 3: Anyway, a fantastic start to the Super Rugby season. Just

1952
01:37:56,053 --> 01:37:59,973
Speaker 3: such a good start Crusaders Hurricanes. Fantastic game, indo end stuff.

1953
01:38:01,373 --> 01:38:04,973
Speaker 3: Kyle Preston, Yeah, player i'd never heard of before last

1954
01:38:05,053 --> 01:38:08,453
Speaker 3: night comes in poor no hope them hobbles off what

1955
01:38:08,653 --> 01:38:11,133
Speaker 3: less than ten minutes into the game. Carl Priston comes in,

1956
01:38:11,293 --> 01:38:13,933
Speaker 3: takes a spot up against cam Roy Guards, scores a

1957
01:38:14,093 --> 01:38:15,653
Speaker 3: head trick. How about that?

1958
01:38:15,813 --> 01:38:18,293
Speaker 27: What a fairy tale against him is from Wellington against

1959
01:38:18,293 --> 01:38:19,853
Speaker 27: a lot of his teammates that he's played with the

1960
01:38:19,973 --> 01:38:22,733
Speaker 27: NFSC side. The Hurricanes tried to sign him, but he

1961
01:38:22,813 --> 01:38:25,213
Speaker 27: wanted to get out of Wellington a little bit and

1962
01:38:25,453 --> 01:38:28,453
Speaker 27: away from home, went to the Crusaders, debuted last night,

1963
01:38:28,533 --> 01:38:31,373
Speaker 27: scores three tries against some of his mates and helps

1964
01:38:31,413 --> 01:38:33,573
Speaker 27: win the game. He was exceptional off the bench. He Yeah,

1965
01:38:34,053 --> 01:38:37,773
Speaker 27: he's very, very dynamic, which is exactly what you want

1966
01:38:37,813 --> 01:38:40,173
Speaker 27: from a halfback. Saw him in the NPC last year,

1967
01:38:40,213 --> 01:38:42,453
Speaker 27: wondered whether he could take it further to super regular level.

1968
01:38:42,493 --> 01:38:44,133
Speaker 27: Well in one game if he keeps playing like that.

1969
01:38:44,533 --> 01:38:47,453
Speaker 27: He has answered those questions. Yeah, doesn't much better than

1970
01:38:47,453 --> 01:38:47,973
Speaker 27: three tries on.

1971
01:38:48,493 --> 01:38:51,933
Speaker 3: And just such an important win for the kind of Crusaders'

1972
01:38:51,973 --> 01:38:53,413
Speaker 3: mentality after last sear.

1973
01:38:53,253 --> 01:38:56,293
Speaker 27: While they needed that, didn't they to get the monkey

1974
01:38:56,333 --> 01:38:58,493
Speaker 27: off the back four wins in total last year. If

1975
01:38:58,533 --> 01:39:00,253
Speaker 27: you start with a win over in New Zealand, side

1976
01:39:00,333 --> 01:39:03,093
Speaker 27: just gets that confidence up a little bit and you

1977
01:39:03,133 --> 01:39:05,133
Speaker 27: know the Hurricanes can take plenty out of that performance

1978
01:39:05,133 --> 01:39:07,293
Speaker 27: as well. They were leading fourteen twenty two to fourteen.

1979
01:39:07,293 --> 01:39:09,933
Speaker 27: They'll be gutted to lose from that position. But I

1980
01:39:10,133 --> 01:39:13,053
Speaker 27: liked elements of what they did last night as well

1981
01:39:13,093 --> 01:39:15,773
Speaker 27: in terms of Super Rugby. Kicking off that game, then

1982
01:39:15,773 --> 01:39:18,813
Speaker 27: the warritars Highlands after it. Yeah, one pointed to decide

1983
01:39:18,853 --> 01:39:21,173
Speaker 27: it Highnders fans. Maybe there's a knock on and the

1984
01:39:21,253 --> 01:39:23,653
Speaker 27: lead up to that winning try for the war Atars,

1985
01:39:23,733 --> 01:39:26,173
Speaker 27: but you know, a close game first up at one

1986
01:39:26,213 --> 01:39:30,133
Speaker 27: pointed to finish two cracking games to get Super Rugby underwelling.

1987
01:39:30,213 --> 01:39:31,893
Speaker 27: Kyle Preston is going to join us on the show

1988
01:39:31,973 --> 01:39:35,213
Speaker 27: this afternoon, Fresh Office three tries looking forward to that.

1989
01:39:35,693 --> 01:39:39,533
Speaker 3: You've got to course the Blues Blues Chiefs this evening.

1990
01:39:39,693 --> 01:39:42,093
Speaker 3: You've got the Warriors playing in the tron as well

1991
01:39:42,253 --> 01:39:44,733
Speaker 3: AFC playing across the ditch. I think about eight o'clock

1992
01:39:44,733 --> 01:39:46,933
Speaker 3: to the FC. What else is on the show?

1993
01:39:47,133 --> 01:39:49,333
Speaker 27: Mark Robinson us on the Rugby Chief Executive is going

1994
01:39:49,333 --> 01:39:51,733
Speaker 27: to join us as first comments since the Innos saga

1995
01:39:51,853 --> 01:39:53,093
Speaker 27: blew up during the week.

1996
01:39:53,653 --> 01:39:57,213
Speaker 3: So, okay, here's my question about this, right so old mate,

1997
01:39:57,413 --> 01:40:01,173
Speaker 3: Sir Jim Ratcliffe says that market conditions mean that Inios

1998
01:40:01,213 --> 01:40:04,133
Speaker 3: can't afford to basically pay for the sponsorship for the

1999
01:40:04,173 --> 01:40:07,013
Speaker 3: remainder of his deal. Isn't he personally worth like two

2000
01:40:07,093 --> 01:40:09,573
Speaker 3: billion dollars? He is may even more than that.

2001
01:40:09,773 --> 01:40:11,773
Speaker 27: He might be worth checking the bank account, you know,

2002
01:40:11,933 --> 01:40:14,053
Speaker 27: market conditions of his bank account, because I'm sure he

2003
01:40:14,133 --> 01:40:14,613
Speaker 27: could pay it.

2004
01:40:15,013 --> 01:40:19,333
Speaker 3: See, isn't the reputational damage to him alone? How much

2005
01:40:19,453 --> 01:40:21,693
Speaker 3: was left on the deal for the three years?

2006
01:40:22,013 --> 01:40:24,693
Speaker 27: And I've heard varying numbers, but he were between sort

2007
01:40:24,693 --> 01:40:27,133
Speaker 27: of eight million to fifteen maybe even twenty million a year.

2008
01:40:27,333 --> 01:40:29,453
Speaker 3: Okay, Obviously for you or I that's a lot of maney,

2009
01:40:29,573 --> 01:40:32,293
Speaker 3: a lot of pair of bell bottomed jeans, right, But

2010
01:40:32,413 --> 01:40:35,013
Speaker 3: for Jim Ratcliffe, like that's a rounding era. If you,

2011
01:40:35,173 --> 01:40:36,893
Speaker 3: if you've read it worth a couple of billion dollars,

2012
01:40:37,053 --> 01:40:39,133
Speaker 3: you would have thought that the reputational damage alone would

2013
01:40:39,133 --> 01:40:41,053
Speaker 3: be enough for him just to step and pay it

2014
01:40:41,093 --> 01:40:42,213
Speaker 3: out of his personal coffers.

2015
01:40:42,293 --> 01:40:44,773
Speaker 27: I wonder if there's something bigger at plays mentioned market conditions.

2016
01:40:44,853 --> 01:40:47,013
Speaker 27: But you look at the cycling team that is cut

2017
01:40:47,093 --> 01:40:51,733
Speaker 27: to shreds. Yeah, the if sorry, the America's Cup team

2018
01:40:51,813 --> 01:40:53,573
Speaker 27: that he is now ditched and he's going to set

2019
01:40:53,653 --> 01:40:55,733
Speaker 27: up his own that won't come cheap. And then Manchester

2020
01:40:55,853 --> 01:40:57,933
Speaker 27: United's cutting hundreds of jobs there. He just bought it

2021
01:40:57,933 --> 01:40:59,853
Speaker 27: in the last year or so. So there is some

2022
01:41:00,333 --> 01:41:04,733
Speaker 27: maybe some underlying issues within yours around.

2023
01:41:04,493 --> 01:41:07,733
Speaker 3: That Libbysis Tech produced the Libbysis checks fifteen bit dollars.

2024
01:41:07,533 --> 01:41:09,813
Speaker 27: Here we go, So I mean he can afford take

2025
01:41:09,853 --> 01:41:11,413
Speaker 27: that out of your bank account. So Jim, you've got

2026
01:41:11,453 --> 01:41:13,853
Speaker 27: plenty left over, don't worry about that. So Mark Robinson

2027
01:41:13,893 --> 01:41:16,413
Speaker 27: to join us to go through that saga and exactly

2028
01:41:16,773 --> 01:41:19,333
Speaker 27: how New Zealand Rugby found out that any US weren't

2029
01:41:19,333 --> 01:41:19,893
Speaker 27: going to pay.

2030
01:41:20,013 --> 01:41:23,133
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, yeah, and the likelihood that they're going to

2031
01:41:23,133 --> 01:41:25,053
Speaker 3: be able to find another sponsor.

2032
01:41:25,173 --> 01:41:26,973
Speaker 27: Well, these things take so long, don't they. It's not

2033
01:41:27,133 --> 01:41:30,053
Speaker 27: like you basically go and you know, sign the deal

2034
01:41:30,173 --> 01:41:32,053
Speaker 27: same day that you meet these people. It's a lot

2035
01:41:32,133 --> 01:41:35,773
Speaker 27: of relationship building and haggling over numbers and what they're

2036
01:41:35,773 --> 01:41:38,013
Speaker 27: getting out of the product and how many commercial appearances

2037
01:41:38,053 --> 01:41:38,973
Speaker 27: and where their logo.

2038
01:41:38,853 --> 01:41:39,253
Speaker 3: Is going to be.

2039
01:41:39,453 --> 01:41:42,373
Speaker 27: So these things take a while to from gestation to

2040
01:41:42,933 --> 01:41:44,973
Speaker 27: actually coming on the jersey, so it's not like it

2041
01:41:44,973 --> 01:41:45,653
Speaker 27: happens overnight.

2042
01:41:45,693 --> 01:41:47,453
Speaker 3: You know, there'll be some people who are out there thinking,

2043
01:41:47,533 --> 01:41:49,733
Speaker 3: you know, what serves New Zealand Rugby right for signing

2044
01:41:49,813 --> 01:41:54,213
Speaker 3: up with any offs. I mean it's ultimately it's our national.

2045
01:41:53,933 --> 01:41:58,013
Speaker 27: Sport that sign Yeah, signing up for anything you don't

2046
01:41:58,053 --> 01:42:01,333
Speaker 27: get delivered, you know, a company goes into receivers it,

2047
01:42:01,413 --> 01:42:03,813
Speaker 27: whatever it is. You're left out of pocket from something

2048
01:42:03,853 --> 01:42:06,213
Speaker 27: that you're expecting to be delivered and New Zealand Rugby

2049
01:42:06,213 --> 01:42:08,493
Speaker 27: have got it. So it's going to be fascinating to

2050
01:42:08,533 --> 01:42:10,253
Speaker 27: see whether this goes to a court case, whether there's

2051
01:42:10,253 --> 01:42:12,133
Speaker 27: a settlement coming, whatever it might be.

2052
01:42:12,293 --> 01:42:14,733
Speaker 3: But you New Zealan Rugby not happy, very good, Okay,

2053
01:42:14,813 --> 01:42:17,293
Speaker 3: thanks for your time. Looking forward to the show this afternoon.

2054
01:42:17,333 --> 01:42:19,493
Speaker 3: Now it's Smith behind the mic for Weekend Sport right

2055
01:42:19,573 --> 01:42:22,533
Speaker 3: after the twelve o'clock news before midday. That new album

2056
01:42:22,613 --> 01:42:25,053
Speaker 3: from the Luminiars to share with you right now is

2057
01:42:25,133 --> 01:42:26,373
Speaker 3: twenty five to twelve.

2058
01:42:26,853 --> 01:42:31,053
Speaker 1: Saturday morning with Jack Tame Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio

2059
01:42:31,373 --> 01:42:32,813
Speaker 1: powered by News Talks, EDB.

2060
01:42:34,613 --> 01:42:37,333
Speaker 3: News Talks. He'd be twenty two minutes to twelve on

2061
01:42:37,453 --> 01:42:39,813
Speaker 3: your Saturday. Katherine Rains, our book reviewer, is here with

2062
01:42:39,893 --> 01:42:43,253
Speaker 3: her two reads for the weekend. Hey Catherine, Morning Jack Okay.

2063
01:42:43,373 --> 01:42:46,093
Speaker 3: Jojo Moys has a new book. It's called We All

2064
01:42:46,493 --> 01:42:47,653
Speaker 3: Live Here. Tell us about it.

2065
01:42:48,013 --> 01:42:51,253
Speaker 28: So, Lila Kennedy's the main character, and she's a middle

2066
01:42:51,333 --> 01:42:54,573
Speaker 28: my age woman and her husband Dan has recently left

2067
01:42:54,653 --> 01:42:57,413
Speaker 28: her and her two daughters to be with his pregnant

2068
01:42:57,453 --> 01:43:02,013
Speaker 28: girlfriend and Lylah's two children. Sally's have your typical moody

2069
01:43:02,093 --> 01:43:04,373
Speaker 28: sixteen year old girl who's dealing with all sorts of

2070
01:43:04,453 --> 01:43:07,533
Speaker 28: her own problems. And Violet, her younger daughter, is almost

2071
01:43:07,533 --> 01:43:10,933
Speaker 28: completely the opposite. She's outspoken and she has no filter.

2072
01:43:11,093 --> 01:43:14,813
Speaker 28: She never holds back her thoughts, and her recently widowed stepfather,

2073
01:43:14,893 --> 01:43:17,653
Speaker 28: Bill has moved into their large old home. And then

2074
01:43:17,693 --> 01:43:21,653
Speaker 28: all of a sudden, her estrange biological dad, Gene, unexpectedly

2075
01:43:21,773 --> 01:43:24,373
Speaker 28: re enters her life after thirty five years. So she

2076
01:43:24,573 --> 01:43:28,373
Speaker 28: has the stress and drama which seems to be carrying alone,

2077
01:43:28,893 --> 01:43:31,093
Speaker 28: and she herself as an accomplished writer, but with all

2078
01:43:31,173 --> 01:43:33,813
Speaker 28: the stress, she's got writer's block. And she hasn't been

2079
01:43:33,853 --> 01:43:36,413
Speaker 28: able to produce the chapters that she's been contracted for,

2080
01:43:37,013 --> 01:43:39,013
Speaker 28: So you're adding in a whole lot of financial stress

2081
01:43:39,093 --> 01:43:41,933
Speaker 28: on top of that, because money's tight and she's full

2082
01:43:42,013 --> 01:43:45,533
Speaker 28: of rage really towards just about everything. And then you

2083
01:43:45,653 --> 01:43:48,053
Speaker 28: see her world start to change in this new definition

2084
01:43:48,173 --> 01:43:50,813
Speaker 28: of family that's messy and chaotic. There's a bit of

2085
01:43:50,893 --> 01:43:55,893
Speaker 28: romance in there and friendships and very unconventional family dynamics.

2086
01:43:55,933 --> 01:43:58,133
Speaker 28: And I guess what Jojo Moyes is talking about is,

2087
01:43:58,533 --> 01:44:00,973
Speaker 28: no matter how complex and difficult your life can become,

2088
01:44:01,053 --> 01:44:02,933
Speaker 28: you can always rely on those that are around you,

2089
01:44:03,213 --> 01:44:05,773
Speaker 28: and not necessarily immediate family. And so it was all

2090
01:44:05,773 --> 01:44:08,253
Speaker 28: about adapt to and simplifying life. And it was a

2091
01:44:08,293 --> 01:44:10,453
Speaker 28: really well told story with actually a really good dose

2092
01:44:10,453 --> 01:44:11,253
Speaker 28: of humor in there too.

2093
01:44:11,453 --> 01:44:11,653
Speaker 15: Yeah.

2094
01:44:11,773 --> 01:44:15,173
Speaker 3: Nice, Okay, that sounds great. So that's by Jojo and Moyes.

2095
01:44:15,213 --> 01:44:17,893
Speaker 3: The book is We All Live Here. You've also read

2096
01:44:17,893 --> 01:44:19,973
Speaker 3: The Peacock and the Sparrow by Is Barry.

2097
01:44:20,733 --> 01:44:24,373
Speaker 28: So Is Barry herself spent six years as an operations

2098
01:44:24,413 --> 01:44:28,413
Speaker 28: officer for the CIA, serving in Baghdad and elsewhere around

2099
01:44:28,413 --> 01:44:30,893
Speaker 28: the globe, and lived and worked through Europe and the

2100
01:44:30,893 --> 01:44:34,053
Speaker 28: Middle East and particularly Bahrain during the Arab Spring, so

2101
01:44:34,973 --> 01:44:37,733
Speaker 28: you can kind of see the aspects of this in

2102
01:44:37,853 --> 01:44:41,213
Speaker 28: the story, and the story set deep within the capital

2103
01:44:41,333 --> 01:44:44,213
Speaker 28: city of Menmah, and the sounds and smells and the

2104
01:44:44,493 --> 01:44:47,093
Speaker 28: decadence and the poverty, and that sort of sense of

2105
01:44:47,173 --> 01:44:50,693
Speaker 28: inevitable change running throughout the novel, and the stories about

2106
01:44:50,733 --> 01:44:54,973
Speaker 28: a very cynical and jaded s Ai s Cia sorry

2107
01:44:55,053 --> 01:44:57,853
Speaker 28: spy called Shane's Collins, and he's ready to come in

2108
01:44:58,013 --> 01:45:00,933
Speaker 28: from the cold, and he's stationed in Bahrain, off the

2109
01:45:01,013 --> 01:45:03,733
Speaker 28: coast of Saudi Arabia for his final tour, and he

2110
01:45:04,013 --> 01:45:05,813
Speaker 28: just wants to get it over and done with, which

2111
01:45:05,893 --> 01:45:09,333
Speaker 28: is covering Iranian support for an insurgency against the monarchy.

2112
01:45:09,733 --> 01:45:13,613
Speaker 28: And he meets this young woman, a beautiful artist called Elizma,

2113
01:45:13,733 --> 01:45:15,733
Speaker 28: and his eyes are open to the side of Bahrain

2114
01:45:16,293 --> 01:45:19,213
Speaker 28: that most expats never experience, in questions he never thought

2115
01:45:19,253 --> 01:45:22,373
Speaker 28: to ask. And then when a trusted informant becomes embroider

2116
01:45:22,373 --> 01:45:25,253
Speaker 28: and a murder, he finds himself drawn into the conflict

2117
01:45:25,333 --> 01:45:27,493
Speaker 28: and his loyalties are up ended and he's caught in

2118
01:45:27,573 --> 01:45:31,893
Speaker 28: this cross winds of revolution. In his entire career, it's

2119
01:45:32,173 --> 01:45:35,573
Speaker 28: kind has led him to this point in relationships and

2120
01:45:35,653 --> 01:45:38,813
Speaker 28: an interesting take on how he thinks about things and

2121
01:45:38,933 --> 01:45:41,093
Speaker 28: that moment we have to choose where your loyalty lies.

2122
01:45:41,333 --> 01:45:44,013
Speaker 28: And I think because of is Berry's background, you get

2123
01:45:44,093 --> 01:45:46,453
Speaker 28: this real feel of a real deal of a spy

2124
01:45:46,573 --> 01:45:49,013
Speaker 28: novel and someone in the know and giving you the

2125
01:45:49,093 --> 01:45:51,733
Speaker 28: inside edge and the spy world. Well maybe who knows,

2126
01:45:51,853 --> 01:45:54,613
Speaker 28: but yeah, it was a well told story and I

2127
01:45:54,733 --> 01:45:56,653
Speaker 28: really liked cool how it was all pulled together.

2128
01:45:56,813 --> 01:45:59,213
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that sounds really really good. Okay, that's The

2129
01:45:59,253 --> 01:46:02,733
Speaker 3: Peacock and the Sparrow by Is Barry. We All Live

2130
01:46:02,813 --> 01:46:05,533
Speaker 3: Here by Jojo Moyes was Catherine's first pick. She'll be

2131
01:46:05,573 --> 01:46:07,653
Speaker 3: back with this next day with another couple of raids.

2132
01:46:07,693 --> 01:46:10,573
Speaker 3: Thanks Catherine. Right now it is eighteen minutes to twelve.

2133
01:46:10,773 --> 01:46:13,773
Speaker 3: Automatic is the new album from the Luminears. We're gonna

2134
01:46:13,773 --> 01:46:14,613
Speaker 3: have it listen.

2135
01:46:14,453 --> 01:46:18,053
Speaker 2: Next giving you the inside scoop on all you need

2136
01:46:18,133 --> 01:46:18,453
Speaker 2: to Us.

2137
01:46:18,533 --> 01:46:21,973
Speaker 1: Saturday Mornings with Jack Tame and Bepure dot co Dotence

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Speaker 9: Poll Cold first Down the Dreney.

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Speaker 12: Let it lie comb down on me, Let it lie

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Speaker 12: comb down on me.

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Speaker 3: This is your all I Got. It's by the Luminears.

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01:47:04,773 --> 01:47:07,933
Speaker 3: They've just released there this album. It's their fifth album.

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Speaker 3: The album is called Automatic and the Stell. Clifford Our

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Speaker 3: Music Review has been.

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Speaker 29: Listening nothing like a heart reaching ballad for Valentine's Yeah.

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Speaker 15: Great.

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Speaker 29: He has a stellar voice and it's really showcased in

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01:47:24,213 --> 01:47:27,733
Speaker 29: this album. So something about the luminis after that massive

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01:47:27,813 --> 01:47:29,573
Speaker 29: song ho hey, that's like just.

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Speaker 19: Been everywhere.

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Speaker 29: And it's got that big strum banjo we kind of sound.

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Speaker 29: And it was at a time when all of there

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Speaker 29: were kind of those folky bands coming to the forefront,

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Speaker 29: the Ears of Monsters and men.

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Speaker 19: What's the other guys on?

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Speaker 29: Yeah, it was all the rage and I and I

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Speaker 29: think that's great and I love that kind of folky stell.

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Speaker 29: This album steps slightly to the side of that, and

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Speaker 29: I like it because I think it's an evolution of

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Speaker 29: what they are as musicians and it's pushed them right.

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Speaker 29: And I think what the sound the sound is here

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Speaker 29: is that their producer has kind of decided to do

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Speaker 29: something different.

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Speaker 19: So he watched that doco pena Jackson's Dooco of the Beatles.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the long one.

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Speaker 19: Yeah, yeah, the long.

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Speaker 29: One, which actually you're weird at our day because you're

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01:48:18,933 --> 01:48:22,093
Speaker 29: watching them, going like what am I watching real people?

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Speaker 16: Yeah?

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Speaker 29: Yeah, I kind of almost expect to see actors and

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Speaker 29: you're like, oh no, wait, this is real studio vibes.

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Speaker 29: And so he was really Yeah, he was really taken

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Speaker 29: with that and that whole like just set up a

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Speaker 29: room to be the studio and just record it like that,

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Speaker 29: so go almost live, I suppose, yeah, right, And I

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Speaker 29: think that took these guys somewhere else because they've always

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Speaker 29: had really big vocals, but they've obviously they've layered them.

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Speaker 29: They've been able to do tracks, right, So you record

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01:48:46,693 --> 01:48:48,253
Speaker 29: a track, you record a track, you record a track,

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Speaker 29: and you layer it all in. But this type it's

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Speaker 29: kind of got that more raw just as it is

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Speaker 29: one guy singing, and I think it leans into that

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Speaker 29: folky but also it kind of adds this kind of

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01:48:59,573 --> 01:49:04,053
Speaker 29: real rawness and emotive type of way of capturing a song.

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Speaker 19: Yeah, Like a couple of the songs on this album,

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Speaker 19: I think that.

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Speaker 29: The very last song and maybe that one there You're

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Speaker 29: a Got is like they did kind of two takes

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Speaker 29: and they're like, yeah, I think that's it, Like leave

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01:49:15,653 --> 01:49:18,853
Speaker 29: that edgy kind of sound about it, and you've sort

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Speaker 29: of had to run around a studio to capture all

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Speaker 29: the sounds, and I.

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Speaker 19: Yeah, I really like it.

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Speaker 29: Wesley Schultz, he does have that voice, and he said

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Speaker 29: he's kind of done it on purpose in this album

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Speaker 29: where he's almost at that breaking point of where his

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Speaker 29: register can go. So it sounds quite vulnerable and you're

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Speaker 29: almost expecting him to crack, you know what I mean, like,

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Speaker 29: which I think again sort of gives you that real

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01:49:39,373 --> 01:49:42,093
Speaker 29: emotive sort of sound to a voice when it's kind

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01:49:42,133 --> 01:49:44,253
Speaker 29: of tension where you're like, I don't know if his

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01:49:44,373 --> 01:49:46,493
Speaker 29: voice can go much higher or further than that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, which I like.

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Speaker 29: There's something about it that I feel he's really committed

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Speaker 29: to what he's saying and what he's singing. There's still

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Speaker 29: that kind of witch that I think the Luminias have had,

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Speaker 29: Like it's that dry, sort of dark probably humor that

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01:49:59,973 --> 01:50:03,493
Speaker 29: we relate to as Kiwi's it amongst the lyrics. So

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Speaker 29: still really storytelling kind of songs, but again a bit

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Speaker 29: more heart on sleeve, not overproduced. One of the big

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Speaker 29: jams that will be quite huge of this album I

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Speaker 29: think is called slow Burn right. Interestingly enough, it's not

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Speaker 29: a slow song just the title. It's actually that real upbeat,

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Speaker 29: fast paced the Lumineu's ho hey almost kind of sound

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Speaker 29: that you think, and it's really led by the drums

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01:50:30,813 --> 01:50:34,333
Speaker 29: that they've done. First, I've watched a couple of videos

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Speaker 29: of them creating the song and sort of they were.

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Speaker 19: Really heavy on this this tempo and this beat.

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Speaker 29: But actually then the beautiful piano playe comes in and

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Speaker 29: I think that's the thing that brings it all together again,

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Speaker 29: with him having this amazing voice that kind of goes

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01:50:47,653 --> 01:50:51,293
Speaker 29: over the top. Yeah, lots lots of super catchy tunes,

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01:50:51,333 --> 01:50:54,733
Speaker 29: but then some real simple, pared back so kind of

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Speaker 29: like some real simple ballads, but then they can go

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01:50:56,893 --> 01:50:59,733
Speaker 29: full anthem at the same time with more of a

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01:50:59,813 --> 01:51:03,613
Speaker 29: really emotionally charged, intimate sort of sound to them. I

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01:51:03,693 --> 01:51:06,293
Speaker 29: think that they both really flourished in this kind of

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01:51:06,493 --> 01:51:08,133
Speaker 29: new way of recording and environments.

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Speaker 15: So there you go.

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Speaker 19: Everyone's just constantly inspired by the Beatles.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I don't know. I mean, I'll leave you

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Speaker 3: to compare the Luminears with the Beatles.

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Speaker 29: Making comparison just the recording just I mean, we're not

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Speaker 29: ever going to be able to get John Lennon pul

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Speaker 29: McCartney in a room together again.

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Speaker 3: But you know, like there's a lot to be said though.

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Speaker 3: I mean, Creer's always talking about there's like being in

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Speaker 3: it exposed to new ways of doing things and being

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01:51:29,453 --> 01:51:32,333
Speaker 3: in new spaces. There's something it does to the signapses

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01:51:32,413 --> 01:51:33,893
Speaker 3: or whatever, right that's right.

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01:51:33,813 --> 01:51:35,973
Speaker 29: And just shaking it up that much to also trust

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01:51:36,053 --> 01:51:39,533
Speaker 29: that you're great musicians, that you'll capture something that maybe

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01:51:39,693 --> 01:51:41,573
Speaker 29: is a little more on the edge than what you

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01:51:41,653 --> 01:51:43,653
Speaker 29: were thinking you were going to do with something just

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01:51:43,773 --> 01:51:47,693
Speaker 29: break away from what has become your norm I suppose, yeah,

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Speaker 29: And I like that the folks storytelling still exists in here.

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Speaker 29: But there's just something like this album's really stuck to me,

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01:51:54,973 --> 01:51:57,733
Speaker 29: and I'm really pleased about that. I wasn't quite sure

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01:51:57,733 --> 01:51:59,173
Speaker 29: where I was going to go with this album.

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01:51:58,973 --> 01:52:02,613
Speaker 3: But yeah, so do you would you still do you

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01:52:02,653 --> 01:52:05,013
Speaker 3: still call it like indy folk?

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Speaker 29: I think you can still do indie folks. It's probably

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Speaker 29: a bit more of a rock sound to it, but

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01:52:09,093 --> 01:52:10,813
Speaker 29: I think they still will probably sit in that genre.

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01:52:10,933 --> 01:52:13,733
Speaker 29: It's so hard, isn't it to capture like people because

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01:52:13,853 --> 01:52:15,733
Speaker 29: they have probably been in that in the folks thing

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01:52:15,773 --> 01:52:17,973
Speaker 29: for a long time. This probably branches them out just

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01:52:18,053 --> 01:52:20,413
Speaker 29: a little bit. And I think that's okay too. Yeah, right,

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01:52:20,493 --> 01:52:22,973
Speaker 29: without completely going like, oh now we've become a baby.

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01:52:22,973 --> 01:52:24,933
Speaker 3: It's not out of the bath order. Yeah, they're not

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01:52:25,093 --> 01:52:27,133
Speaker 3: stadium rock necessarily just yet.

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01:52:27,253 --> 01:52:27,453
Speaker 15: Yeah.

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01:52:27,653 --> 01:52:29,813
Speaker 29: And there's some sort of Coldplay influence in the air,

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01:52:29,893 --> 01:52:32,133
Speaker 29: you know, those kind of big anthems that come about.

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Speaker 19: And the leading voice that sort of sits over the

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01:52:34,213 --> 01:52:36,493
Speaker 19: top of everything. Yeah, so maybe a little bit more

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01:52:36,493 --> 01:52:39,133
Speaker 19: of a pop fusion as well. But yeah, yeah, it's

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01:52:39,133 --> 01:52:41,773
Speaker 19: a really enjoyable listen. I recommend it great.

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Speaker 3: Okay, that sounds really good. So what did you give it?

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Speaker 3: Automatic by the Luminaars.

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Speaker 19: I'm going to give it an eight out of ten.

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01:52:48,013 --> 01:52:49,813
Speaker 19: It feels familiar very quickly.

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01:52:51,173 --> 01:52:51,453
Speaker 12: A lot.

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01:52:52,053 --> 01:52:54,493
Speaker 3: There's something all with that. I feel like I've scared

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01:52:54,493 --> 01:52:56,653
Speaker 3: you out of getting ten to ten out of tens,

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01:52:56,973 --> 01:52:58,133
Speaker 3: which I never wanted to do.

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Speaker 19: Maybe it would have to work hard to impress it exactly.

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01:53:02,413 --> 01:53:04,093
Speaker 3: Yeah, Okay, maybe that's it. Maybe that's it.

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Speaker 4: All right.

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01:53:05,053 --> 01:53:07,013
Speaker 3: It's a good album, Yeah, very good. I'm looking forar

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Speaker 3: to having a listen. Okay, Automatic by the Luminius is

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Speaker 3: the album aid out of Tennis Steale cliff At our

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Speaker 3: music reviewer rerickens it's worth We're gonna have a bit

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Speaker 3: more of a listen in a few minutes. Right now,

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Speaker 3: it's nine to twelve.

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Speaker 2: A cracking way to start your Saturday.

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Speaker 1: Saturday mornings with Jack Day and bpeuwre dot co dot

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Speaker 3: Just I know I said this all the time, absolutely

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Speaker 3: for all of your messages throughout the morning, even to

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Speaker 3: those of you who vehemently disagree with my comments. I

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Speaker 3: through the afternoon on News Talks EDB big afternoon planned

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Speaker 3: on weekend sport. He will look at the start of

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Speaker 3: the opening round of Super Rugby. Could win for the Crusaders,

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01:54:13,653 --> 01:54:16,813
Speaker 3: heartbreak for the Highlanders last night, disappointing run for the

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Speaker 3: Hurricanes who had started so strongly against the Cantabs, and

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Speaker 3: of course the Blues and Chiefs playing this evening as

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Speaker 3: well as that, you got the Warriors playing their last

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Speaker 3: preseason match in the Tron this afternoon. Cannot wait for that.

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Speaker 3: Sounds like half the Tron's turning out for it as well.

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Speaker 3: For now though, thanks to my wonderful producer Libby for

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Speaker 3: doing all the tough stuff. And we're gonna leave you

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Speaker 3: with the Luminiars. Their latest album is Automatic and this

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01:54:41,693 --> 01:54:44,613
Speaker 3: is same old song I'll see you next week.

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Speaker 25: Bease man, is anyone of us gonna make it big

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01:54:49,333 --> 01:54:52,853
Speaker 25: or good? End up down on the pavement? And if

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01:54:52,973 --> 01:54:58,373
Speaker 25: I was today, if the plane went down and you survived,

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01:55:00,853 --> 01:55:03,493
Speaker 25: do you ever wonder what your parents man when they

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01:55:03,613 --> 01:55:07,333
Speaker 25: told you wheredmas in heav Because I don't feel it

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01:55:07,453 --> 01:55:10,013
Speaker 25: like I did back then in the black sit down

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01:55:10,213 --> 01:55:13,733
Speaker 25: of the impression and everyone's all right.

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01:55:14,813 --> 01:55:17,733
Speaker 12: I cannot afford to see the light.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what's wrong with me.

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01:55:22,933 --> 01:55:24,853
Speaker 12: I killed the mood some now.

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Speaker 2: Truly the guests beginning to make me feel.

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Speaker 6: Long same, So we sing this same So we sing

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01:55:42,253 --> 01:55:48,333
Speaker 6: this same, same sad song.

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Speaker 24: In the brain where the top it's black like a

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01:55:53,733 --> 01:55:57,213
Speaker 24: starving mouth for the years said the.

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01:55:57,213 --> 01:56:00,493
Speaker 9: Boulevard was not that bad, and the jack darbing with.

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01:56:00,573 --> 01:56:06,053
Speaker 24: The instruments in broad daylight. They popped the trunk and

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01:56:06,813 --> 01:56:13,333
Speaker 24: the keys behind the cops, me changing the care. I've

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01:56:13,373 --> 01:56:20,613
Speaker 24: never seen my mom's guitar. I don't know what's wrong

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01:56:20,773 --> 01:56:23,813
Speaker 24: with me. I killed and moves so that I truly

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01:56:24,293 --> 01:56:27,253
Speaker 24: a guess, begin to make me feel.

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Speaker 9: The party has been done for hours away my bathroom time,

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01:56:35,573 --> 01:56:45,453
Speaker 9: smelling all my bets below the throne. Save. So we

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01:56:45,813 --> 01:56:56,853
Speaker 9: sing this same so we seen MI save, save sad,

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01:56:57,493 --> 01:57:11,253
Speaker 9: so save, So we seen this where you saying.

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