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Speaker 1: We've got migrant trouble to some degree in our schools.

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Speaker 1: Last year, twenty two thousand school age migrants arrived in

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Speaker 1: the country, which is allegedly now pushing the schools and

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Speaker 1: the staffing to their limits. The Ministry of Education building

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Speaker 1: new classrooms, but they're not coming quickly enough. The Secondary

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Speaker 1: Principals Association president as Waye Koyo, who is with us,

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Speaker 1: born very good morning to you. Do you have any

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Speaker 1: suggestion that maybe this is going to get sort of

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Speaker 1: because the numbers flooded into the country. Now those numbers

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Speaker 1: start to tail off and you will eventually see that,

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Speaker 1: won't you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely, And most of those migrants land and in

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Speaker 2: the main centers. It doesn't spread evenly across the country.

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Speaker 2: So in the conversations that I think with local Mastrip education,

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Speaker 2: they know where the problem is and they're trying to

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Speaker 2: get as many temporary classrooms, you know, those prefames that

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Speaker 2: you may have seen around schools built as quickly as

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Speaker 2: possible and on site and ready for February.

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Speaker 1: Are you guys in the link to the criteria, In

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Speaker 1: other words, when the government set the rules as to

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Speaker 1: who can come in, do the schools get involved in

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Speaker 1: any stage saying we're letting these people in and they

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Speaker 1: bring in two kids, and this is what you can expect.

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Speaker 2: Well, the schools aren't. No, not at all. One assumes

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Speaker 2: that Immigration are communicating with the network planning team from

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Speaker 2: the ministry. But that's sort of above my grade pay grade,

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Speaker 2: to be honest.

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Speaker 1: Right, and so should they be more involved? In other words,

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Speaker 1: do you have any clue as to who's coming in

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Speaker 1: numbers or none whatsoever?

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Speaker 2: Historically I haven't had much faith in the predictive numbers

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Speaker 2: that you get sort of around this time of the year.

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Speaker 2: We get a predicted number of students for the following year,

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Speaker 2: and in my school's example, the predicted final number was

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Speaker 2: sixteen oh four. For this year, we've ended up at

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Speaker 2: significantly higher than that, closer to seventeen hundred. And when

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Speaker 2: you're thinking twenty five kids, as a teacher, I they're

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Speaker 2: about rough gage. That's quite a way out. So there's

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Speaker 2: something that isn't talking between Immigration and the network team

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Speaker 2: or whoever it may be, where the accurate data just

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Speaker 2: this is getting.

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Speaker 1: There, And how much pressure you under when these kids

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Speaker 1: suddenly turn up and it's day one and you need

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Speaker 1: teachers and classrooms. What do you do?

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Speaker 2: It varies from suburb to suburb to be fair, but

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Speaker 2: places like Ormiston where there's not only a new and

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Speaker 2: developing community, although that's where migrants seem to be going,

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Speaker 2: you do things like take the books out of your library,

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Speaker 2: stick them on a trolley and wheel them around your school.

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Speaker 2: One of my local schools doing that, and so the

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Speaker 2: library becomes classrooms. Halls get chopped up into teaching spaces,

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Speaker 2: so you don't have an assembly hall anymore. You have

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Speaker 2: six or seven classrooms in it, whatever the size of

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Speaker 2: your hall allows you. In one case, you have a

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Speaker 2: math class under a stairwell because it's a big enough

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Speaker 2: vacant space. So you either take up the spaces that

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Speaker 2: are good for learning in other parts of the school,

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Speaker 2: you make your class sizes bigger, or cancel things, or

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Speaker 2: have non specialists in front of students where you've grabbed

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Speaker 2: or liever room to cover for a class and you're

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Speaker 2: not giving them the best deal necessarily. So it's a

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Speaker 2: challenging space.

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Speaker 1: Sure good insight born as always appreciate it. Bon Koya,

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Speaker 1: who's the Secondary Principles Association.

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