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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Weekend Sport Podcast with Jason Pine

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Speaker 1: from News Talks at B. The only place for the

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Speaker 1: big names, the big issues, the big controversies and the

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Speaker 1: big conversations. It's all on Weekend Sport on your home

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Speaker 1: of Sport News Talks.

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Speaker 2: Ed B.

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Speaker 3: Alfternoon and welcome Just picked over seven after midday Weekend

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Speaker 3: Sport sixteenth to February twenty twenty five, Elliott Smith and

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Speaker 3: for Jason Pine again this afternoon. Piney back with you

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Speaker 3: tomorrow evening on Sports Talk sixteenth to February twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 3: Happy birthday to John McEnroe sixty six. Today you can't

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Speaker 3: be serious, man, you cannot be serious. Stop Ballard on

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Speaker 3: the line. Kathy Freeman fifty two Today and later this

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Speaker 3: year will celebrate her twenty five year anniversary of this

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Speaker 3: and the FO one hundred at Sydney two thousand. It's

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Speaker 3: going to be a big finish into this. Late Graham

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Speaker 3: leads dreamon runs.

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Speaker 4: After that, Mary.

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Speaker 3: Inside, Cappy Lefting goes up, the Graham takes the lead.

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Speaker 3: Looks so many draws away from Gridham and Mary. This

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Speaker 3: is a famous victory. I'm the magus at the comis

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Speaker 3: What a legend, what a champion, arguably the moments of

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Speaker 3: Sydney two thousand. Another big afternoon of sport on the

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Speaker 3: way on weekend Sport today, Round one of Super Rugby

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Speaker 3: and the books and what a round It was. The

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Speaker 3: biggest margin across the weekend eleven points. It's No. Thirteen

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Speaker 3: plus in the opening week of Super Rugby and that

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Speaker 3: biggest margin was the Chiefs beating the Blues. Who would

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Speaker 3: have picked that game? And the Chiefs winning is the

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Speaker 3: biggest margin from the weekend in the rematch of last

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Speaker 3: year's final two one point is in the books as well.

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Speaker 3: I thought that was about as good around as you

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Speaker 3: could possibly hoped for for an opening round of Super

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Speaker 3: Rugby and gives me a bit of hope that the

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Speaker 3: competition might be a bit closer this year. Former All

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Speaker 3: Black and Sky commentator at Jeff Wilson to join the

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Speaker 3: program to run the rule over the opening round shortly,

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Speaker 3: keen for your thoughts on the opening weekend as well.

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Speaker 3: After one we delve into the world as sports betting.

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Speaker 3: Interesting story in the Heralds from a couple of New

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Speaker 3: Zealand tennis players and the abuse they cop on social

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Speaker 3: media from betters around the globe, a lot of it

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Speaker 3: absolutely vile stuff. And this is for players who I

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Speaker 3: mean this with the greatest of respects of playing some

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Speaker 3: of the smaller tennis tournaments around the globe, away from

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Speaker 3: the spotlight in theory, and they're being slammed with some

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Speaker 3: shocking stuff online. Has sports betting gone a little bit

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Speaker 3: too fat? New Zealand tennis player Monique Barry with us

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Speaker 3: after one Anickxon negotiates this, negotiates a three month ban

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Speaker 3: Lee run. Ivanovitch will give us his take a bit

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Speaker 3: later in the program. We'll take you to the ski

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Speaker 3: slopes with Alice Robinson state side, ahead of Shane van

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Speaker 3: Gisbergen's Daytona five hundred debut tomorrow morning as well. James

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Speaker 3: Andcony will lock in and join us before two as well.

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Speaker 3: So much sports, so little time. It's bang on ten

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Speaker 3: after midday, it's weekend sport.

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Speaker 1: Let's get into it when it's down to the line

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Speaker 1: and you made a call on eighty Weekend Sport News

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Speaker 3: The Chiefs taking the win last night at Eden Park Fatima.

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Speaker 5: Now here's some space Mackenzie's flight through. How appropriate Damien

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Speaker 3: That might be enough for the Chiefs to win. It's

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Speaker 6: Well, a second half statement from the Chiefs. Fourteen six

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Speaker 3: How good was that bench of the Chiefs. And when

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Speaker 3: that was a cracking weekend of Super Rugby to get

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Speaker 4: Yeah, outstanding. You know, a great crowdscape, fan engagement. The

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Speaker 3: Blues and Chiefs last night. Look, I don't think many

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Speaker 4: The Blues were hanging on and then that one moment

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Speaker 4: I mean there was one hundred and fifty old Caps,

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Speaker 3: Indeed, it was how key was that bench and you know,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think the combination of all of those factors,

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Speaker 4: Look, I think for a lot of the teams, for

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Speaker 4: How you manage those those high workloads for some of

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Speaker 4: I'm not going to lie to you. When my one

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Speaker 4: at a missed opportunity where they had the game in

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Speaker 4: remarkable win. But for week for game one, yeah, it

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Speaker 3: You mentioned the Highlanders as well Friday night. Look, they

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Speaker 4: they've played more right now. Most of them had full

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Speaker 4: There's enough talent there, and they were in this game

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Speaker 4: they win this contest. I thought this was a slow

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Speaker 4: Joseph chasing up and unders. Maybe just put the ball

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Speaker 4: For the Highlanders, who are you know, are going to

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Speaker 3: You're an outside bet for more outside back you so

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Speaker 3: what's your sense of weird his best positions so you

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Speaker 3: might be in a back line for the war Tars

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Speaker 3: and the Wallabies.

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Speaker 4: Look, I really this is one of the things, you know,

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Speaker 4: I do think that Scott Barrett's one of those unlucky

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Speaker 3: It was certainly a high scoring round of Super rugby.

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Speaker 8: Lot of things, but I think the intent is there.

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Speaker 4: This is going to be tough, you know, trying to

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Speaker 3: Fascinating opening round of Super Rugby. Jeff Fawkes and thanks

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Speaker 3: view Your view is now on the opening weekends of

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Speaker 3: I really like how they're playing, but still a Chiefs fan.

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Speaker 3: What a game. Thank you very much for the Texas

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Speaker 3: Bruce afternoon. Bruce, how are you?

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Speaker 7: Good mate?

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Speaker 3: How are you good? Thank you? What did you make

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Speaker 9: Oh, fantastic, mate, fantastic, Like you couldn't ask for anything more.

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Speaker 9: Like the games have been awesome, and like I just

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Speaker 9: I just think that the the narrative needs to change,

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Speaker 9: Most of it's bees, mate, and like it is good rugby,

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Speaker 9: But the last year was really good and then this

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Speaker 3: Who stood out for you over the course of the

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Speaker 9: Well, I really liked I watched the Highlanders. I mean

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Speaker 9: And I really like that young Van Hurley. He's sort

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Speaker 3: Yeah they've got talent, haven't they across the board? That team?

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Speaker 3: I agree, Bruce. Thank you very much for your call.

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Speaker 3: Nice to hear from you this afternoon. Cracking round to

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Speaker 7: Yeah, very good.

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Speaker 4: The Chiefs game was a bloody reserve ad.

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Speaker 7: It's good start to the Super Rugby, wasn't it.

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Speaker 3: It was outstanding mean, especially coming from fourteen six down

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Speaker 3: The bench made a big difference, didn't they.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, definitely at.

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Speaker 7: Half time because we had a bit of money on

435
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Speaker 7: the Chiefs.

436
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Speaker 4: At half time we were even more confident.

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Speaker 8: It did ten the way it looked like a half

438
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Speaker 8: time as well, Chiefs are all over them.

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Speaker 3: Well, yeah, they didn't play that badly in the first

440
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Speaker 3: spell and yeah, I was commentating and said to and

441
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Speaker 3: Strawner was longside me in the commentary box that they

442
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Speaker 3: probably don't deserve to be well, definitely didn't deserve to

443
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Speaker 3: be fourteen six down and McKenzie moving back into ten,

444
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Speaker 3: a few changes, bring those all Blacks players on and

445
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Speaker 3: you know what, I thought, the Fords absolutely did a

446
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Speaker 3: number on the Blues last night.

447
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Speaker 8: Yeah, absolutely, it's a bit we'd both all black teams

448
00:21:39,187 --> 00:21:40,307
Speaker 8: were playing fifteen.

449
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Speaker 3: Yes they were. But I thought mackenzie once he got

450
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Speaker 3: it back into ten, looked absolute class for the for

451
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Speaker 3: the Chiefs and directed them around really well. So look,

452
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Speaker 3: happy night for you, Harry, you one big.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, yeah, grained on the chief.

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Speaker 3: Well played. Hey, thank you very much. Very nice to

455
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Speaker 3: hear from you this afternoon. Oh eight hundred and eighty

456
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Speaker 3: teen eighty nine two ninety two. For a text message

457
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Speaker 3: this afternoon, Michael says, let's watched a good game Force

458
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Speaker 3: for Malwada Pacifica lost by a point. From Michael, that

459
00:22:11,867 --> 00:22:14,907
Speaker 3: was a doozy last night. I mean the Malwauna Pacifica

460
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Speaker 3: should not have lost that game. From forty four to

461
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Speaker 3: thirty one up with four minutes to play. That's a

462
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Speaker 3: little frustrating for Mowana because that's a game they should

463
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Speaker 3: have banked those points on the road. They come back.

464
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Speaker 3: It gonn be a tough old plane right back from

465
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Speaker 3: Perth for them. Oh eight hundred and eighty teen eighty

466
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Speaker 3: nine two nine two for a text message afternoon, Ben

467
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Speaker 3: House things.

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Speaker 7: Amen, listen. I just want to say how good every

469
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Speaker 7: single game. Then I'll watched the Druid. I watched winer pacificate.

470
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Speaker 7: Like you say, they shouldn't have lost it, But those guys,

471
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Speaker 7: those guys have learned a lot from that and it's

472
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Speaker 7: a massive step up from you know, where things used

473
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Speaker 7: to be. Yeah, you can't put it evening down on

474
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Speaker 7: their team to one man, Aredy coming into the squad,

475
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Speaker 7: but obviously he has looked at all those other players,

476
00:23:05,267 --> 00:23:07,387
Speaker 7: and there's so much other talent in the game. They're

477
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Speaker 7: going to be like the Drew last year, you know,

478
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Speaker 7: just just just ruining people's days. I can see that coming.

479
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Speaker 7: And it's awesome to see competition coming into the the

480
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Speaker 7: the competition.

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Speaker 3: Awesome.

482
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Speaker 7: Awesome to see the Crusaders made through just yeah, yeah,

483
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Speaker 7: take take the heads off to the balls.

484
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Speaker 4: Really?

485
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Speaker 7: Uh oh me that their new heart pick? Yeah, all bles,

486
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Speaker 7: all blecks are looking good for the future. Just awesome

487
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Speaker 7: to see men, and yeah, I'm really pleased around to

488
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Speaker 7: sit and watch Shortened Street with the missles anymore.

489
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Speaker 3: You've got You've got fourteen weeks of Super Rugby plus

490
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Speaker 3: and finals to look forward to, so you have to

491
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Speaker 3: get there. What's Shortened Street for a while?

492
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Speaker 7: Empty empty seat to the stadiums though that's not on.

493
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Speaker 7: Come on, guys, let's make you know what else you.

494
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Speaker 4: Going to do?

495
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Speaker 13: Well?

496
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Speaker 3: The right and hopefully the crowds build because the quality

497
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Speaker 3: that we've seen in this opening weekend was so good.

498
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Speaker 3: Hopefully translates into crowns from week two onwards. Yes, yes,

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Speaker 3: good to catch up be and thank you very much

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Speaker 3: for your call this afternoon. Oh eight hundred eighty eighteen

501
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Speaker 3: eighty nine two ninety two for a text message? Was

502
00:24:27,067 --> 00:24:30,707
Speaker 3: that what we've been wanting for Super Rugby for a

503
00:24:30,787 --> 00:24:33,667
Speaker 3: few years now. They've tinked and tinked and tinkered with it.

504
00:24:35,067 --> 00:24:38,787
Speaker 3: Have they finally landed on the formula for this competition?

505
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Speaker 3: Eleven teams isn't necessarily the ideal number around buyers and

506
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Speaker 3: everything like that, but I stitt here after the opening

507
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Speaker 3: weekend and go. I don't think there's any easy beats

508
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Speaker 3: this year, which has certainly been the case in recent years.

509
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Speaker 3: Now we're gonna have to see how this competition develops

510
00:25:02,067 --> 00:25:04,947
Speaker 3: over the next few weeks, and maybe the cream will

511
00:25:05,027 --> 00:25:07,867
Speaker 3: rise to the top and someone will go back towards

512
00:25:07,947 --> 00:25:11,347
Speaker 3: the bottom, and there will be a team that bears

513
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Speaker 3: the brunt of some of those teams, the top teams

514
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Speaker 3: and the competition. But on the basis of last couple

515
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Speaker 3: of nights, I don't think there's any easy beats. Whereas

516
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Speaker 3: you used to be able to draw a circle and go,

517
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Speaker 3: it's maybe where the top teams can rest a few

518
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Speaker 3: players and they'll still get a win, whether it's more

519
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Speaker 3: one a Pacificer, Western Force Melbourne Rebels. Deleting the Rebels

520
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Speaker 3: has lifted the standard across the competition. Is it too

521
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Speaker 3: early to say? Or is Super Rugby on fire for

522
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Speaker 3: twenty twenty five oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty

523
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Speaker 3: nine two nine to two for a text message? And

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Speaker 3: who are your standouts of week one? If you're playing fantasy,

525
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Speaker 3: who got the points for you? There's a lot of

526
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Speaker 3: very smug people in the news talk ZB officers this

527
00:26:01,907 --> 00:26:04,827
Speaker 3: morning that had Damien mckenzy or even use their triple

528
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Speaker 3: captain on them and got about three hundred points from

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Speaker 3: I want to hear your standouts from Super Rugby Week

530
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Speaker 3: one on newstalg zib this afternoon. It is coming up

531
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Speaker 3: twenty seven away from one.

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533
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Speaker 3: Dog MB twenty five away from one on used talg ZIBB.

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Speaker 3: Claden McMillan, coach of the Chiefs triumphant last night at

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Speaker 3: Eaton Park.

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Speaker 14: That's always nice to get a double fished up, you know,

538
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Speaker 14: like your preseason, the preseason been really short, condensed, and

539
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Speaker 14: everything's had to be sort of accelerated pretty quickly to

540
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Speaker 14: try and get people game ready. And because you're got

541
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Speaker 14: a high turnover of players and your and your preseason

542
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Speaker 14: games trying to get everybody up to speed that you

543
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Speaker 14: never really get a true judge where you are at.

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Speaker 14: So it's pleasing tonight to see that we're tracking in

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Speaker 14: the right direction. Both teams will have plenty to work on,

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Speaker 14: but let's start and look forward to the Crusaders at

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Speaker 14: home next week.

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Speaker 3: Claden McMillan their coach of the Chiefs after the victory

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Speaker 3: over the Blues at Eden Park. Text line nine two

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Speaker 3: ninety two is open O eight hundred and eighty ten

551
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Speaker 3: eighty to get your thoughts on week one of Super

552
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Speaker 3: Rugby and who are the standouts for you across the

553
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Speaker 3: course of the weekend? Interesting text from John. Sorry, but

554
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Speaker 3: rugby is such a ballfest as just a ballfest these days?

555
00:27:32,667 --> 00:27:35,027
Speaker 3: What other sport in the world has so much referee

556
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Speaker 3: influence in constantly giving instruction during the general run of play,

557
00:27:39,107 --> 00:27:41,667
Speaker 3: And yet again they tinker with even more rules this season.

558
00:27:42,387 --> 00:27:43,987
Speaker 3: If they want to speed up the game, remove the

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Speaker 3: refs from the game, because over officiaty is killing our

560
00:27:47,187 --> 00:27:49,467
Speaker 3: beautiful game. Thank you, John. I'm not sure we could

561
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Speaker 3: remove the referees entirely. I think they are trying. I mean,

562
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Speaker 3: you look at the Super Rugby. If you've switched off

563
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Speaker 3: Super Rugby, John, I'd highly recommend you give it a

564
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Speaker 3: crack next week on the basis of what we've seen

565
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Speaker 3: in that opening weekend because it was fast, was fast paced,

566
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Speaker 3: the referee didn't have too much influence. By and large,

567
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Speaker 3: there was on prolonged stoppage in the Blues Chiefs game.

568
00:28:14,907 --> 00:28:17,187
Speaker 3: But By and large, Super Rugby has been focused on

569
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Speaker 3: getting the game moving and not stopping, and I think

570
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Speaker 3: that's for the betterment of the game, the bitterment of

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Speaker 3: the product. There is still some work to do. I

572
00:28:27,507 --> 00:28:33,627
Speaker 3: think Super Rugby has managed to try and find the

573
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Speaker 3: balance between needing an official out in the park and

574
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Speaker 3: making the right calls in the games. Oh eight hundred

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Speaker 3: and eighty ten eighty nine two nine two for a

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00:28:44,667 --> 00:28:47,267
Speaker 3: text message one sees this. We could not understand some

577
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Speaker 3: of the referees calls that the Eden Park game. Also,

578
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Speaker 3: one line referee was creeping five to fifteen meters to

579
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Speaker 3: the Blues disadvantage of many line out positioning. We do

580
00:28:55,147 --> 00:28:57,667
Speaker 3: need to have firm, consistent refereeing for all games. Last

581
00:28:57,747 --> 00:29:02,827
Speaker 3: night was confusing, thank you. Ian Blues certainly bore the

582
00:29:02,947 --> 00:29:05,267
Speaker 3: brunt discipline wise, didn't they have the course of that game.

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Speaker 3: So it's going to be interesting to see how that develops.

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Speaker 3: And look, there are different referees in this competition. Damon Murphy.

585
00:29:14,827 --> 00:29:17,427
Speaker 3: You know Blues Chiefs game, you maybe usually expect to

586
00:29:17,827 --> 00:29:21,547
Speaker 3: see someone like a bet O'Keefe Paul Williams get that

587
00:29:21,667 --> 00:29:23,667
Speaker 3: referee game last night they gave it to an Australigan

588
00:29:25,147 --> 00:29:28,147
Speaker 3: Nick Berry did the Crusader's Hurricanes game at the weekend.

589
00:29:28,227 --> 00:29:31,067
Speaker 3: So the more you learn about some of these referees,

590
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Speaker 3: and that's the mac a good point, John. The interpretations

591
00:29:35,227 --> 00:29:40,547
Speaker 3: Rugby's game left open to interpretations from officials, and I

592
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Speaker 3: just don't know that there are enough quality referees around

593
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Speaker 3: the globe to make it the product that the rule

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Speaker 3: book Saysitors twenty one away from one on news talk

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Speaker 3: zbat afternoon, fell. Hey, you done.

596
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Speaker 10: About not too bad yourself?

597
00:29:56,307 --> 00:29:56,467
Speaker 15: Yeah?

598
00:29:56,507 --> 00:29:57,027
Speaker 3: Great, thank you.

599
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Speaker 10: I'm sorry to be ignorant, but I got your name right,

600
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Speaker 10: didn't I?

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Speaker 3: Sorry? Elliott Elliott, Oh.

602
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Speaker 10: Elliott, Sorry, sorry, sorry, I thought that quite a bit.

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Speaker 10: Sorry man.

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Speaker 3: What did you make of the weekend of Super Rugby?

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Speaker 12: Oh?

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Speaker 10: I bloody enjoyed it. I thought it was fantastic. I

607
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Speaker 10: I watched the I didn't see all the games, but

608
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Speaker 10: I've seen all the results and the ones. The games

609
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Speaker 10: that I didn't see sound like they would have been

610
00:30:23,427 --> 00:30:26,787
Speaker 10: great games to watch as well, right down to the wire.

611
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Speaker 10: But I watched the Crusaders game and that was fantastic.

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Speaker 10: The career Crusaders and the oh the Hurricanes was the

613
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Speaker 10: Hurricanes and I watched the Blues and the Chiefs last

614
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Speaker 10: last night as well, and again another fantastic game.

615
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I.

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Speaker 10: Like you say, it's early to make a decision, but man,

617
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Speaker 10: it certainly bodes well that's going to be what it's like.

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Speaker 10: And I think, like I'll get onto my standout players.

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Speaker 10: Sometimes I can't remember the names of the players, but

620
00:31:06,427 --> 00:31:08,667
Speaker 10: there was an incident you might remember that like that.

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Speaker 10: I think it was the Chiefs game last night and

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Speaker 10: the Chiefs and the Blues. Were you talking about how

623
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Speaker 10: they're trying to speed the game up, you know, because

624
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Speaker 10: they get it more exciting, and I think like one

625
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Speaker 10: of the things Jeff Wilson said, which was quite interesting,

626
00:31:23,267 --> 00:31:26,427
Speaker 10: was about when players get fatigued, you know, they start

627
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Speaker 10: making the mistakes and missing the tackles and tries happen,

628
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Speaker 10: and you know, the game and points come along and

629
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Speaker 10: helps it to become more exciting. So yeah, you know,

630
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Speaker 10: if you can do that by speeding it up sort

631
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Speaker 10: of thing. So there was a thing last night, was it.

632
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Speaker 10: I think it might be a new rule where I

633
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Speaker 10: think the Chiefs one of the guys, either Chiefs or

634
00:31:48,347 --> 00:31:50,267
Speaker 10: Blues guy went to put the bull in the scrub

635
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Speaker 10: or something but he took too long and it got

636
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Speaker 10: turned over.

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Speaker 3: It was a lineout. Yes, yeah, it was the Chiefs player.

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Speaker 3: From memory, I think it was Bradley Slater that he

639
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Speaker 3: was on the park at that stage, and or maybe

640
00:32:02,227 --> 00:32:04,587
Speaker 3: it was Rocketelli. I'm trying to remember. It was someone

641
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Speaker 3: out there will know and remember better than I. But

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00:32:07,187 --> 00:32:08,867
Speaker 3: they talked too long. There was too loud or they

643
00:32:08,867 --> 00:32:11,427
Speaker 3: couldn't hear the call coming through, and they went to

644
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Speaker 3: try and listen a bit closer, and by the time

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Speaker 3: they did, they got a short arm penalty against them.

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Speaker 10: All right, because is that a new rule? And to

647
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Speaker 10: try and speed up the game, like around scrums and things.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's about time wasting and you know, getting that

649
00:32:26,187 --> 00:32:30,907
Speaker 3: ball and to play quicker and getting the game moving.

650
00:32:31,707 --> 00:32:34,547
Speaker 3: You've got a window to do it, and it wasn't

651
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Speaker 3: quick enough.

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Speaker 10: Yeah. Well no, see, I think that's good. I've got

653
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Speaker 10: no problem with that. Again, that's helping to speed up

654
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Speaker 10: the game and make it more exciting because you know,

655
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Speaker 10: you get so frustrated, especially around scrums when they're reset

656
00:32:47,827 --> 00:32:50,307
Speaker 10: in three or four times and you know it's about

657
00:32:50,547 --> 00:32:53,227
Speaker 10: five minutes or you know, two or three minutes before

658
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Speaker 10: they could get to get the scrum gun and get

659
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Speaker 10: the game gun again to stop and start, and you've

660
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Speaker 10: got a lot of scrums, you know, yeah, you get frustrated.

661
00:33:00,747 --> 00:33:02,507
Speaker 10: So line outs as well, that's good, you know when

662
00:33:02,547 --> 00:33:04,307
Speaker 10: they muck around with the line outs and that and

663
00:33:04,707 --> 00:33:06,947
Speaker 10: have a huddle, have a huddle and they take their

664
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Speaker 10: time to get into the line out sort of things.

665
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Speaker 10: So no good stuff.

666
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Speaker 3: But who stood out for you have? Of course the

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Speaker 3: weak nd philp Yeah.

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Speaker 10: I was going to say for a start, well I'll

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Speaker 10: go Crusaders because I've got a couple, and the Chiefs

670
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Speaker 10: as well, but the Crusaders. The players there that stood

671
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Speaker 10: out for me was Jordan's having woolf Jordan's back and

672
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Speaker 10: really like those two in a combination, they just lifted,

673
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Speaker 10: you know, they bring a spark and lifted up the level.

674
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Speaker 10: So and the half back is that the Preston was, Yeah,

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Speaker 10: he was fantastic to what the talent he's going to be,

676
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Speaker 10: you know, it was so yeah, I haven't Yeah, and

677
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Speaker 10: like I said, bringing that wol Jordan back, I mean,

678
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Speaker 10: you know, some players do just change a game or

679
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Speaker 10: capable of changing the game.

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Speaker 16: You know.

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Speaker 10: It's not to say the other players aren't good. Either,

682
00:34:01,387 --> 00:34:03,107
Speaker 10: but you know did some players are just a bit

683
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Speaker 10: more special. So on the Chiefs game straight away, straight away,

684
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Speaker 10: Damien McKenzie, What a game he had when they slotted

685
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Speaker 10: him into first Boy was that number?

686
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Speaker 4: Yeah?

687
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Speaker 10: When he when they'd done that, and he just started

688
00:34:20,827 --> 00:34:24,147
Speaker 10: doing his drinking and enjoying an unpredictable running and creating

689
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Speaker 10: gaps and opening up the game and his kicking too,

690
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Speaker 10: I think as well. Did he do a twenty fifty Yeah?

691
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Speaker 10: One stage, did you the other?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 10: Oh sorry, you were going to say.

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Speaker 3: No, he did a fifty twenty two and he was magnificent,

695
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Speaker 3: wasn't he fail? I thought he was absolutely electric in

696
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Speaker 3: that performance. When they moved him into from fifteen into ten,

697
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Speaker 3: that was I thought the difference maker just provided some direction.

698
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Speaker 3: I'm a big Josh Jakin fan. I think he's an

699
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Speaker 3: up and comer, but Mackenzie's class and experience just directed

700
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Speaker 3: them around the part. Well, niceest catch up with you,

701
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Speaker 3: felt think very much. You'll call this afternoon. I one

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Speaker 3: hundred and eighty ten eighty nine two ninety two for

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Speaker 3: the text message. For a text message on the subject

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Speaker 3: of Damien McKenzie. The media in New Zealand going to

705
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Speaker 3: get him behind DMAC this year. He is world class,

706
00:35:09,027 --> 00:35:11,387
Speaker 3: just except mu Wonga is not here. Couldn't believe the

707
00:35:11,427 --> 00:35:15,427
Speaker 3: negative negativity toward him last year. He was one of

708
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Speaker 3: the all Black spats. We certainly started extremely well. Class

709
00:35:19,667 --> 00:35:25,187
Speaker 3: performance last night from Damian McKenzie. Roger and Goon says

710
00:35:25,227 --> 00:35:28,267
Speaker 3: this alligat. It's fantastic to have the Super Rugby back again,

711
00:35:28,987 --> 00:35:32,107
Speaker 3: especially since the Big Bash League in Australia has finished

712
00:35:32,147 --> 00:35:35,427
Speaker 3: and New Zealand cricket is invisible. But the Super Competition

713
00:35:35,507 --> 00:35:38,147
Speaker 3: needs more teams. I hope they look to introduce three

714
00:35:38,307 --> 00:35:42,067
Speaker 3: Japanese teams eventually, Thank you Roger. I think Boden Barrett

715
00:35:42,147 --> 00:35:45,067
Speaker 3: put that forward. The idea of having Japan back in

716
00:35:45,187 --> 00:35:50,307
Speaker 3: with a number of their top league teams be interesting

717
00:35:50,347 --> 00:35:54,387
Speaker 3: to see. Where's the balance. Expansion has burned Super Rugby before.

718
00:35:54,427 --> 00:36:01,147
Speaker 3: They've now restricted it back to eleven teams. They're going

719
00:36:01,187 --> 00:36:03,067
Speaker 3: to have to be very very careful about how they

720
00:36:03,707 --> 00:36:06,187
Speaker 3: expand Super Rugby and do it for the right reasons.

721
00:36:06,507 --> 00:36:09,987
Speaker 3: Indeed they do. Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty nine

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Speaker 3: two nine two for a text message, Plenty of texts

723
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Speaker 3: that I'll get to in a few moments time, We'll

724
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Speaker 3: take a break, come back with more here on News Talks.

725
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Speaker 3: It's fifteen away from one.

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Speaker 1: The big issues on and after fields call Oh eight

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Speaker 1: hundred eighty ten eighty with which EJ gun No Homes,

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Speaker 1: New Zealand's most trusted home builder, News Talks Abby.

729
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Speaker 3: Let's get into some texts. On nine two nine to two.

730
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Speaker 3: One text message says, Hi, where were the kicking jewels?

731
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Speaker 3: Take the Hurricanes cam roy Gard to keep the All

732
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Speaker 3: Blacks in it against the Northern Hemisphere with towering pressure kicks.

733
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Speaker 3: Kicking jewels are part of rugby football now, but done

734
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Speaker 3: to be seen. Please don't say boring. Eg France England

735
00:36:45,387 --> 00:36:47,147
Speaker 3: was a tremendous game. I'm scared we don't do them

736
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Speaker 3: in New Zealand because it might show up a lack

737
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Speaker 3: of skills. There's plenty of kicking, I thought last night

738
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Speaker 3: in the Blues Chiefs game it was very short kicking

739
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Speaker 3: and that's been a feature of Super Rugby for a

740
00:36:57,427 --> 00:37:02,347
Speaker 3: few seasons, as those short contestable kicks. We saw a

741
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Speaker 3: number of occasions last night where they went to the

742
00:37:04,667 --> 00:37:07,067
Speaker 3: year and made it a few fifty to fifty game.

743
00:37:07,147 --> 00:37:10,187
Speaker 3: Not so much the big up and unders kick chasing.

744
00:37:11,947 --> 00:37:13,467
Speaker 3: There was one game this weekend where it was the

745
00:37:14,107 --> 00:37:15,867
Speaker 3: Gary Owen and the twenty two. I'm trying to which

746
00:37:15,907 --> 00:37:19,707
Speaker 3: game mone be the Crusaders Hurricanes game. Baby, You're right,

747
00:37:19,827 --> 00:37:22,347
Speaker 3: kicking is a big part of rugby, and the Crusaders

748
00:37:22,347 --> 00:37:25,347
Speaker 3: have mentioned in the preseason around some of those changed

749
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Speaker 3: rules around the escorting that have come in to world

750
00:37:28,467 --> 00:37:32,267
Speaker 3: rugby now as well, and how that changes things. Very

751
00:37:32,267 --> 00:37:34,467
Speaker 3: good point. Thank you very much for the text. Peter

752
00:37:34,547 --> 00:37:36,187
Speaker 3: says this. We still need and want full round of

753
00:37:36,227 --> 00:37:38,707
Speaker 3: home and away because that is the fairest way to

754
00:37:38,827 --> 00:37:42,267
Speaker 3: find the best teams. And there's half and half, isn't it, Peter,

755
00:37:43,587 --> 00:37:45,747
Speaker 3: You play round one, play everyone once in a few weeks,

756
00:37:45,787 --> 00:37:49,867
Speaker 3: of teams twice they do focus on the derby's second

757
00:37:49,947 --> 00:37:55,627
Speaker 3: time around. It would elongate the competition somewhat by another

758
00:37:55,707 --> 00:38:00,107
Speaker 3: what five or six weeks? Thank you, Peter, Jeffer with

759
00:38:00,227 --> 00:38:03,347
Speaker 3: US Blues play a Northern hemssre one dimensional Crusaders rugby.

760
00:38:03,667 --> 00:38:05,267
Speaker 3: It will take a few games for the war machine

761
00:38:05,307 --> 00:38:08,427
Speaker 3: to rumble up. Early game suit opportunist slight d Mac.

762
00:38:09,347 --> 00:38:14,427
Speaker 3: Thank you Jeffer for work the texts Elligant says Alex

763
00:38:14,547 --> 00:38:16,307
Speaker 3: It feels like South Africa and Japan have gone and

764
00:38:16,347 --> 00:38:19,787
Speaker 3: won't come back, but with the Hawadis be a welcome return.

765
00:38:20,507 --> 00:38:22,987
Speaker 3: Feel like Argentina need a professional team, especially if they're

766
00:38:23,027 --> 00:38:26,067
Speaker 3: part of SENSA, and would expose New Zealand and Australian

767
00:38:26,107 --> 00:38:28,667
Speaker 3: teams to a different style. Interesting point. There was a

768
00:38:28,707 --> 00:38:31,707
Speaker 3: bit of talk last year about the Hawardis coming back

769
00:38:31,747 --> 00:38:34,067
Speaker 3: into Super Rugby. Seems to have gone a little bit

770
00:38:34,147 --> 00:38:38,547
Speaker 3: quiet on that front. Treasure says this, I'm a huge

771
00:38:38,627 --> 00:38:41,107
Speaker 3: league fan, but the Crusaders game was the best rugby

772
00:38:41,627 --> 00:38:44,467
Speaker 3: or league game I've seen for many years. Hardly any

773
00:38:44,547 --> 00:38:48,667
Speaker 3: scrums certainly helped, let's say from Patrick Dewey. But logo

774
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Speaker 3: Blues captain on his disappointment on how last night panned

775
00:38:51,387 --> 00:38:55,147
Speaker 3: out at Eden Park, Ah, yeah, if you're frustrating.

776
00:38:57,267 --> 00:39:00,907
Speaker 17: Probably Janoick talked about the physicality of the game, but

777
00:39:01,027 --> 00:39:03,187
Speaker 17: real I think and then probably just paid a lot

778
00:39:03,227 --> 00:39:08,147
Speaker 17: of service to them and wasn't really that genuine. Yeah, Chiefs,

779
00:39:08,827 --> 00:39:11,587
Speaker 17: they played the physical game tonight and we don't really

780
00:39:11,707 --> 00:39:16,427
Speaker 17: fire back and probably talked about doing something, but I

781
00:39:16,547 --> 00:39:20,107
Speaker 17: expected it to happen being out there. Yeah, I think

782
00:39:20,427 --> 00:39:22,547
Speaker 17: there's almost like we're standing with a few flurries of

783
00:39:22,627 --> 00:39:25,027
Speaker 17: their head and that was probably what it.

784
00:39:25,067 --> 00:39:27,587
Speaker 3: Was like Patrick deuy Berloti, Blue's captain. They set the

785
00:39:27,587 --> 00:39:30,347
Speaker 3: physicality standard last year though were found out last night.

786
00:39:30,427 --> 00:39:32,547
Speaker 3: Big time, big work to do for the Blues up

787
00:39:32,667 --> 00:39:35,867
Speaker 3: front ahead of their trip to the Highlanders next weekend

788
00:39:35,947 --> 00:39:37,867
Speaker 3: coming up eight to away from one. News Talk z

789
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Speaker 3: will come back wrap up the hour after.

790
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Speaker 1: This, analyzing every view from every angle in the s

791
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Speaker 1: Morning World Weekend Sport All eighty US Talk.

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Speaker 3: ZVVY five away from one on News Talk zib Chris

793
00:39:51,787 --> 00:39:53,827
Speaker 3: with this great start to the footy this week in

794
00:39:53,947 --> 00:39:56,227
Speaker 3: thrilling stuff. But they have to sort out the head

795
00:39:56,307 --> 00:40:00,347
Speaker 3: contact nonsense. Incidental contact is unavoidable in such a dynamic

796
00:40:00,387 --> 00:40:03,467
Speaker 3: game played at pace. We all understand player wealthy concerns

797
00:40:03,507 --> 00:40:05,867
Speaker 3: and the risks of a hidden head are accepted by everyone.

798
00:40:06,347 --> 00:40:09,947
Speaker 3: No one is going out there to deliberately injure another player,

799
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Speaker 3: cheers Chris. Yeah, you just don't see the coat hangers,

800
00:40:13,427 --> 00:40:15,987
Speaker 3: you don't see that all that stuff. It's incidental head

801
00:40:16,067 --> 00:40:19,347
Speaker 3: contact and that's why I think the twenty minute red

802
00:40:19,427 --> 00:40:24,547
Speaker 3: card is a big step forward for the game. Northern

803
00:40:24,587 --> 00:40:26,787
Speaker 3: Hemisphere might not be sold it, or parts of northern

804
00:40:26,787 --> 00:40:31,707
Speaker 3: hemisphere it might not be sold on it. You'd like

805
00:40:31,787 --> 00:40:35,667
Speaker 3: to see some common sense used at times when they

806
00:40:35,707 --> 00:40:39,267
Speaker 3: say players are upright well and they're making the tackle.

807
00:40:39,707 --> 00:40:45,507
Speaker 3: Did they actually have physically have time? Not always? Yes,

808
00:40:45,627 --> 00:40:50,427
Speaker 3: the onus is on the tackler, but not always and

809
00:40:50,587 --> 00:40:52,667
Speaker 3: there just needs to be perhaps a step backwards to

810
00:40:52,747 --> 00:40:55,107
Speaker 3: go well, did he have time to get lower rather

811
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Speaker 3: than he should have been lower? Sometimes the carrier of

812
00:40:59,547 --> 00:41:03,627
Speaker 3: the ball also a little bit at fault, but they

813
00:41:03,667 --> 00:41:06,587
Speaker 3: don't want to say that in rugby too loud. Away

814
00:41:06,587 --> 00:41:09,867
Speaker 3: from one on News Talk ZIB after one o'clock, get

815
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Speaker 3: back to some of your texts because I'm sure that

816
00:41:11,467 --> 00:41:13,387
Speaker 3: James mcconey want to talk a bit of super rugby

817
00:41:13,707 --> 00:41:15,947
Speaker 3: later on next our also want to delve into the

818
00:41:16,027 --> 00:41:20,667
Speaker 3: world of sports betting. Some players being abused and copying

819
00:41:20,747 --> 00:41:22,987
Speaker 3: it on their social media. Has sports betting gone a

820
00:41:23,067 --> 00:41:25,467
Speaker 3: little too far? We'll delve into that after one o'clock

821
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Speaker 3: here on News Talk as MB.

822
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Speaker 1: The only place to discuss the biggest sports issues on

823
00:41:31,867 --> 00:41:32,987
Speaker 1: and after field.

824
00:41:33,547 --> 00:41:34,147
Speaker 10: It's all on.

825
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Speaker 1: Win James Sport on your homeless sports News Talk ZIMB.

826
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Speaker 3: Very good afternoon, Weekend Sports seven after one plenty of

827
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Speaker 3: text traffic on Super Rugby last hour nine two nine

828
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Speaker 3: two text line remains open. We'll chat a bit of

829
00:41:56,347 --> 00:41:58,107
Speaker 3: Super Rugby a wee bit later on in the hour.

830
00:41:58,147 --> 00:42:02,787
Speaker 3: I'm sure with James mccony he'll be itching to talk

831
00:42:02,827 --> 00:42:06,867
Speaker 3: about the weekends that was in Super Rugby. Still to

832
00:42:06,907 --> 00:42:09,107
Speaker 3: come after two o'clock as well, we had the slopes

833
00:42:09,267 --> 00:42:12,067
Speaker 3: Alis Robinson, New Zealand alpine skier to join the program,

834
00:42:12,827 --> 00:42:15,667
Speaker 3: fresh off at silver medal in the World Championships Giant

835
00:42:15,747 --> 00:42:19,947
Speaker 3: slalomen A couple of days ago. Great result for Alice Robinson.

836
00:42:20,027 --> 00:42:23,627
Speaker 3: Children the program. After two o'clock. Shane van gisberg And

837
00:42:23,747 --> 00:42:29,387
Speaker 3: makes us Daytona five hundred debut around breakfast time, New

838
00:42:29,467 --> 00:42:33,747
Speaker 3: Zealand time tomorrow morning. Had one season of the Exfinity,

839
00:42:33,827 --> 00:42:37,147
Speaker 3: the second tier NASCAR series, having his first crack at

840
00:42:37,227 --> 00:42:43,107
Speaker 3: Daytona five hundred, the super Bowl of NASCAR, which actually

841
00:42:43,147 --> 00:42:46,027
Speaker 3: opens the NASCAR season. It's the biggest de meat of

842
00:42:46,067 --> 00:42:48,227
Speaker 3: the season. It's the first one on the board. It

843
00:42:48,347 --> 00:42:51,747
Speaker 3: is huge, have massive eyballs across the United States and

844
00:42:51,827 --> 00:42:54,907
Speaker 3: changed Van van Gisbergen will be on the start line

845
00:42:55,307 --> 00:42:59,027
Speaker 3: and were talking about Nate Ryan, NBC motorboat journalist, to

846
00:42:59,107 --> 00:43:01,627
Speaker 3: discuss that next hour on the program. Yannick Ciner, as

847
00:43:01,627 --> 00:43:04,227
Speaker 3: you heard in the news there with Dean, has managed

848
00:43:04,267 --> 00:43:10,747
Speaker 3: to negotiate a three month doping band pulled off quite

849
00:43:10,827 --> 00:43:15,507
Speaker 3: the deal. Didn't realize you can negotiate those sort of things.

850
00:43:15,987 --> 00:43:18,707
Speaker 3: Apparently you can. What a precedent that has been set.

851
00:43:18,827 --> 00:43:21,907
Speaker 3: Leader at A. Vanovitch will join us after two o'clock

852
00:43:22,027 --> 00:43:24,827
Speaker 3: to dig into that this hour on the program, though

853
00:43:25,027 --> 00:43:27,507
Speaker 3: joining us in a moment or two. Manique Barry here

854
00:43:27,547 --> 00:43:30,347
Speaker 3: we tennis player might have seen the story on the

855
00:43:30,387 --> 00:43:34,707
Speaker 3: New Zealand Herald a couple of days ago. She revealed,

856
00:43:35,027 --> 00:43:37,627
Speaker 3: along with James Watt fell in New Zealand tennis players

857
00:43:37,627 --> 00:43:41,507
Speaker 3: some of the abuse that they've copped from social media,

858
00:43:42,427 --> 00:43:47,147
Speaker 3: from feaces around the globe that are punting on their

859
00:43:47,227 --> 00:43:51,587
Speaker 3: games and then losing money, and some of the abuse

860
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Speaker 3: they cop quite vile. Manick Barry is going to join

861
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Speaker 3: us in a moment or two and also talk to

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Speaker 3: the Problem Gambling Foundation as well. Has sports betting just

863
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Speaker 3: gone a little bit too far? We'll get some thoughts

864
00:44:03,347 --> 00:44:06,027
Speaker 3: on that. Want yours as well, on Super rugby or

865
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Speaker 3: any sporting topic. You're like nine two nine two ticks

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Speaker 3: line will remain open right throughout the show. Nine and

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Speaker 3: a half after one on News Talk zb this article

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Speaker 3: written by Bonnie Jansen from the New Zealand Herald, titled

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Speaker 3: online Abuse Monique Barry, James What revealed threatening messages received

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Speaker 3: by tennis players and Killey tennis player Manique Barry and

871
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Speaker 3: James What detailed the kind of messages that they get

872
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Speaker 3: after losing matches on the International Tennis Circuit. Now Barry

873
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Speaker 3: is ranked four hundred and eighty in the world. The

874
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Speaker 3: messages that have come from people that have gambled on

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Speaker 3: their singles matches from anywhere around the globe, dear threats,

876
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Speaker 3: messages like I'm going to kill you. I hope you

877
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Speaker 3: kill yourself, you suck. I will find you, and that's

878
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Speaker 3: just the start of it. Monique Barry joins us here

879
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Speaker 3: on news Talk ZIB. Monique, thanks for your time with

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00:45:03,747 --> 00:45:04,747
Speaker 3: us this afternoon.

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00:45:04,947 --> 00:45:05,467
Speaker 5: No worries.

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Speaker 18: Thank you for having me.

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00:45:06,547 --> 00:45:06,667
Speaker 2: Well.

884
00:45:06,667 --> 00:45:09,307
Speaker 3: I read the piece in the Herolds written by Bonnie

885
00:45:09,427 --> 00:45:12,427
Speaker 3: Jensen that you contributed to and spoke to about it,

886
00:45:12,467 --> 00:45:14,987
Speaker 3: and well, to be honest, I was horrified by some

887
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Speaker 3: of the messages that you get as a tennis player

888
00:45:18,507 --> 00:45:23,827
Speaker 3: out on circuit from any number of individual people. When

889
00:45:23,907 --> 00:45:26,667
Speaker 3: did the start happening? And have you been surprised by

890
00:45:26,827 --> 00:45:29,227
Speaker 3: the amount of messages that you've been getting?

891
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Speaker 18: So it all starts when you place some professional tournament,

892
00:45:35,947 --> 00:45:37,427
Speaker 18: So I think it would have started when I was

893
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Speaker 18: about seventeen eighteen, even just local tournaments that are like

894
00:45:42,707 --> 00:45:48,067
Speaker 18: live streamed, which I didn't realize were able to be bad.

895
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Speaker 8: On, but I soon realized that quite quickly.

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Speaker 18: And I mean at the start, you're very surprised when

897
00:45:57,347 --> 00:46:00,027
Speaker 18: you're getting all these messages and hate messages and how

898
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Speaker 18: people are finding you and then want you kind of

899
00:46:02,827 --> 00:46:06,107
Speaker 18: learn learn about it it's normal.

900
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Speaker 3: Well, how do you brush it off as normal when

901
00:46:10,707 --> 00:46:14,707
Speaker 3: I've seen some of the messages and they're fairly explicit

902
00:46:14,827 --> 00:46:16,627
Speaker 3: and abusive. Do you how do you brush it off

903
00:46:17,147 --> 00:46:18,587
Speaker 3: so easily like you've just done.

904
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Speaker 16: I think it's just.

905
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Speaker 18: When you know that everyone else is getting the same thing,

906
00:46:24,107 --> 00:46:25,827
Speaker 18: you know it's it's not.

907
00:46:26,747 --> 00:46:30,627
Speaker 8: Just yourself, and you also know that you know.

908
00:46:32,107 --> 00:46:35,227
Speaker 18: People people have obviously lost a lot of money, and

909
00:46:35,587 --> 00:46:39,507
Speaker 18: you know they're not really thinking about how us players

910
00:46:39,547 --> 00:46:44,347
Speaker 18: are actually humans sometimes, So I think sometimes you just can't,

911
00:46:44,427 --> 00:46:49,347
Speaker 18: you can't retaliate and do anything but feel sorry for

912
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Speaker 18: them in a way.

913
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Speaker 3: The messages that you listed in the article are you know,

914
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Speaker 3: quite harrowing to sort of receive what what are the

915
00:46:57,627 --> 00:47:00,107
Speaker 3: worst stuff without wanting to sort of go back and

916
00:47:00,307 --> 00:47:02,027
Speaker 3: tread through it again? But what are the kind of

917
00:47:02,027 --> 00:47:05,027
Speaker 3: stuff that you do get from these unnamed trolls?

918
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Speaker 16: Just anything?

919
00:47:07,827 --> 00:47:08,067
Speaker 2: Really?

920
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Speaker 18: I mean, you get threats, you get you know, anything

921
00:47:13,507 --> 00:47:16,947
Speaker 18: personal about yourself. Sometimes they can get your family involved.

922
00:47:18,427 --> 00:47:24,027
Speaker 18: Others are you know, abusing you about your life and

923
00:47:25,027 --> 00:47:28,267
Speaker 18: just talking about the whole match. Sometimes it just goes

924
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Speaker 18: on and on.

925
00:47:29,827 --> 00:47:34,227
Speaker 3: Unfortunately, do you report these messages to Instagram or Facebook

926
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Speaker 3: or whatever platform they're coming through.

927
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Speaker 18: If it starts to get a bit too personal where

928
00:47:40,507 --> 00:47:42,627
Speaker 18: they start to say, like, you know, I know where

929
00:47:42,667 --> 00:47:45,747
Speaker 18: you live or about your family, that's when you actually

930
00:47:45,827 --> 00:47:48,587
Speaker 18: report it to the ITF and they start to investigate it.

931
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Speaker 18: But if it's just you know, because sometimes you just

932
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Speaker 18: get too many, you just either block and report them

933
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Speaker 18: on the socials or you just simply ignore it and

934
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Speaker 18: delete the messages because sometimes there's just too many.

935
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Speaker 3: Does it surprise you that people are gambling on I

936
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Speaker 3: guess you're met on the other side of the world,

937
00:48:08,187 --> 00:48:10,627
Speaker 3: or that are live streamed and maybe not available to

938
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Speaker 3: a huge audience.

939
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Speaker 18: Yes, yeah, it is quite surprising, to be honest, because

940
00:48:15,187 --> 00:48:17,587
Speaker 18: sometimes you're in the middle of nowhere and you still

941
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Speaker 18: have people betting on you and you're kind of wondering

942
00:48:21,107 --> 00:48:23,747
Speaker 18: how they even know about it. But I mean it's

943
00:48:23,867 --> 00:48:26,947
Speaker 18: I guess it's just their choice on what they choose.

944
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Speaker 10: To bet on.

945
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Speaker 3: I guess that's pretty widespread. For yourself obviously, you know,

946
00:48:31,467 --> 00:48:34,307
Speaker 3: playing it year for Vince and then you know, as

947
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Speaker 3: you go up the chain, players you know all around

948
00:48:37,667 --> 00:48:40,187
Speaker 3: the world, whether they're Range one and you're ranked in

949
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Speaker 3: the four hundred, you know, people across the spectrum of

950
00:48:43,467 --> 00:48:46,707
Speaker 3: tennis must be getting, you know, abuse every day. Do

951
00:48:46,787 --> 00:48:49,067
Speaker 3: you talk about that as you know of players out

952
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Speaker 3: on the tours.

953
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Speaker 18: I've actually seen Caroline Garcia, she used to be a

954
00:48:55,787 --> 00:48:58,987
Speaker 18: top twenty player and she made a post about it

955
00:48:59,227 --> 00:49:02,547
Speaker 18: and all the comments that she got and she's trying

956
00:49:02,587 --> 00:49:05,667
Speaker 18: to spread awareness. And I know another girl, Priscilla hon

957
00:49:05,787 --> 00:49:09,507
Speaker 18: she's big in Australia, top top one fifty and she's

958
00:49:09,547 --> 00:49:13,547
Speaker 18: doing the same as well. And sometimes even play players

959
00:49:13,667 --> 00:49:16,947
Speaker 18: that are maybe one thousand have. Also we've also reposted

960
00:49:16,987 --> 00:49:21,907
Speaker 18: it because I don't think it's gotten enough recognition. But

961
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Speaker 18: I think it's starting to be a conversation starter or

962
00:49:24,787 --> 00:49:26,987
Speaker 18: you know, we're all helping each other out as players,

963
00:49:27,267 --> 00:49:29,947
Speaker 18: just you know, not letting it get to us as much.

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Speaker 3: The sorry, I was just gonna say, have the it,

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Speaker 3: you've been good, or you dealt with it in a

966
00:49:37,387 --> 00:49:42,187
Speaker 3: way that you're happy with. In terms of this abuse, I.

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Speaker 18: Mean, I personally haven't reported to the its, so I

968
00:49:46,547 --> 00:49:50,467
Speaker 18: don't know how much they've gone and investigated most of

969
00:49:50,587 --> 00:49:55,187
Speaker 18: the most of the other spans or trolls that they've had,

970
00:49:55,827 --> 00:49:58,587
Speaker 18: but I'm hoping that they have at least tried to

971
00:49:58,627 --> 00:50:03,787
Speaker 18: think of something that we can start doing. I've noticed

972
00:50:03,827 --> 00:50:08,787
Speaker 18: with Instagram they've actually managed to hit like hide those

973
00:50:09,467 --> 00:50:12,267
Speaker 18: those types of requests that come through messages, so I

974
00:50:12,387 --> 00:50:16,587
Speaker 18: haven't actually been able to see them like through my dms,

975
00:50:16,827 --> 00:50:21,267
Speaker 18: but they'll still come through on my posts like comments,

976
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Speaker 18: but I haven't been able to see them through requests

977
00:50:24,267 --> 00:50:26,027
Speaker 18: as such anymore, which is good.

978
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Speaker 3: Do you think it's I guess a combination because say

979
00:50:29,027 --> 00:50:31,027
Speaker 3: twenty years ago, no one would have been able to

980
00:50:31,107 --> 00:50:34,307
Speaker 3: contact anyone like they came with social media now and

981
00:50:34,387 --> 00:50:36,467
Speaker 3: now there's so much more beacing as well. That is

982
00:50:36,507 --> 00:50:39,587
Speaker 3: sort of a combined problem between beating and also the

983
00:50:39,667 --> 00:50:41,667
Speaker 3: access to athletes through social media.

984
00:50:42,827 --> 00:50:45,507
Speaker 18: Yeah, I mean, like it's tough. I spoke to one

985
00:50:45,547 --> 00:50:47,987
Speaker 18: of the other players, and you know, you can't really

986
00:50:48,107 --> 00:50:51,507
Speaker 18: keep your account private because you also want to be

987
00:50:51,547 --> 00:50:55,867
Speaker 18: able to open up to sponsors and people to find

988
00:50:55,987 --> 00:50:59,467
Speaker 18: you in a good way. But then also the other

989
00:50:59,547 --> 00:51:01,587
Speaker 18: way is the better is and they can find you

990
00:51:01,707 --> 00:51:05,187
Speaker 18: through there and obviously send abuse and things like that.

991
00:51:05,467 --> 00:51:09,827
Speaker 18: But I think it's going to be an ongoing matter.

992
00:51:10,027 --> 00:51:15,227
Speaker 18: But I'm hoping that players can just kind of, you know,

993
00:51:16,067 --> 00:51:19,667
Speaker 18: go on with their career and maybe the more that

994
00:51:19,747 --> 00:51:22,387
Speaker 18: we talk about it, the more maybe, I don't know,

995
00:51:22,587 --> 00:51:27,547
Speaker 18: some chance that betters would stop stop abusing players or athletes.

996
00:51:27,707 --> 00:51:28,787
Speaker 3: Do you think more can be done?

997
00:51:31,867 --> 00:51:33,507
Speaker 18: To be honest, I just think there's so many better

998
00:51:33,667 --> 00:51:36,187
Speaker 18: that I there's only so much we can do, and

999
00:51:37,027 --> 00:51:43,707
Speaker 18: you can't really stop them from messaging athletes. But I mean, yeah,

1000
00:51:43,907 --> 00:51:47,467
Speaker 18: I honestly don't really have a solution for it, but

1001
00:51:47,867 --> 00:51:51,027
Speaker 18: I think making people more aware of that, maybe we

1002
00:51:51,427 --> 00:51:54,907
Speaker 18: maybe someone can come up with an idea to do that.

1003
00:51:55,267 --> 00:51:57,547
Speaker 3: Have other players spoken to you about it since that article,

1004
00:51:57,627 --> 00:52:01,147
Speaker 3: Win Win Life A couple have, a.

1005
00:52:01,187 --> 00:52:04,107
Speaker 18: Couple of the New Zealand players, but they also, you know,

1006
00:52:04,427 --> 00:52:08,587
Speaker 18: they can relate to that as well, and they're happy

1007
00:52:08,667 --> 00:52:11,547
Speaker 18: that I was able to speak about it, and I'm

1008
00:52:11,587 --> 00:52:14,827
Speaker 18: hoping that people can read about it as well and

1009
00:52:14,947 --> 00:52:17,307
Speaker 18: take the time to be more aware.

1010
00:52:17,027 --> 00:52:18,787
Speaker 4: Of that and what we kind of go through.

1011
00:52:19,907 --> 00:52:23,547
Speaker 3: Absolutely well, Monika, wish you all the best for twenty

1012
00:52:23,627 --> 00:52:25,547
Speaker 3: twenty five on the court, and thanks for being so

1013
00:52:25,667 --> 00:52:28,107
Speaker 3: open about this topic offered as well. Appreciate your time,

1014
00:52:28,987 --> 00:52:31,907
Speaker 3: no worries, Thank you. There was Manick Barry joining us

1015
00:52:32,027 --> 00:52:34,947
Speaker 3: on News Talks that being New Zealand tennis player talking

1016
00:52:34,947 --> 00:52:37,827
Speaker 3: about some of the social media abuse that she's copped

1017
00:52:37,827 --> 00:52:40,227
Speaker 3: and this article in the Herald that first put this

1018
00:52:40,387 --> 00:52:43,907
Speaker 3: to light, and there's screenshots of it. There's screeds of

1019
00:52:43,947 --> 00:52:49,267
Speaker 3: the stuff from people who have lost money on second

1020
00:52:49,307 --> 00:52:54,147
Speaker 3: tier level tennis tournaments. That's the crazy thing. We're not

1021
00:52:54,227 --> 00:52:58,467
Speaker 3: talking world number ones, not that it will excuse it,

1022
00:52:58,547 --> 00:53:01,707
Speaker 3: but we're not talking about the Grand Slams and top ten,

1023
00:53:01,747 --> 00:53:05,787
Speaker 3: top five players copping this. This is a player in

1024
00:53:05,867 --> 00:53:09,707
Speaker 3: the four hundreds in the world playing it, of tournaments

1025
00:53:09,747 --> 00:53:14,907
Speaker 3: that you can bet on? Is there just too much

1026
00:53:14,947 --> 00:53:21,907
Speaker 3: sports bidding? Now you can basically bet on two flies

1027
00:53:21,947 --> 00:53:25,947
Speaker 3: going up a wall. Have we gone too far? You

1028
00:53:25,987 --> 00:53:30,867
Speaker 3: should have to go into tab get your slip market.

1029
00:53:31,747 --> 00:53:34,867
Speaker 3: We'll tell the operator what you wanted, but it didn't

1030
00:53:35,187 --> 00:53:39,107
Speaker 3: you get your ticket back. Now you can basically bet

1031
00:53:39,187 --> 00:53:42,587
Speaker 3: twenty four to seven from your phone on anything that

1032
00:53:42,747 --> 00:53:46,187
Speaker 3: might be happening around the globe. Does there need to

1033
00:53:46,267 --> 00:53:52,907
Speaker 3: be more restrictions in place? Because if players like Manick

1034
00:53:52,947 --> 00:53:57,947
Speaker 3: Bowrier copying it, then it's widespread, whatever the sport might be.

1035
00:54:00,267 --> 00:54:02,067
Speaker 3: I like having a bit myself. I bet on sport.

1036
00:54:02,147 --> 00:54:05,067
Speaker 3: I bet on a bit of racing from time to time,

1037
00:54:06,867 --> 00:54:08,787
Speaker 3: but I do it in moderation. Clearly, there are people

1038
00:54:08,867 --> 00:54:12,867
Speaker 3: out there that probably do this for quote unquote a

1039
00:54:12,947 --> 00:54:18,067
Speaker 3: living and social media and the advent of it has

1040
00:54:18,147 --> 00:54:19,947
Speaker 3: made it harder and harder or it's sorry, easier and

1041
00:54:19,987 --> 00:54:25,227
Speaker 3: easier for them just to message these pretty disgusting messages

1042
00:54:26,147 --> 00:54:32,907
Speaker 3: off to people. Does more need to be done? Do

1043
00:54:32,947 --> 00:54:34,787
Speaker 3: you think it's been taken too far? Oh, eight hundred

1044
00:54:34,787 --> 00:54:36,987
Speaker 3: and eighty ten eighty nine, two ninety two for a

1045
00:54:37,107 --> 00:54:43,947
Speaker 3: text message. Do they need to be restrictions put into

1046
00:54:43,987 --> 00:54:49,347
Speaker 3: place around gambling to stop these messages? Would it stop anything?

1047
00:54:51,307 --> 00:54:58,107
Speaker 3: One thought I had is maybe restrict beasing on individual sports,

1048
00:54:59,907 --> 00:55:03,307
Speaker 3: so you couldn't bet on a New Zealand tennis player

1049
00:55:03,867 --> 00:55:06,267
Speaker 3: playing an ITF tournament, but you could bet on a

1050
00:55:06,387 --> 00:55:12,107
Speaker 3: team sport. Take less of the owners off the individual.

1051
00:55:15,507 --> 00:55:17,147
Speaker 3: Is this a betting problem or is it a social

1052
00:55:17,187 --> 00:55:20,347
Speaker 3: media problem? Time and time again we see players, we

1053
00:55:20,427 --> 00:55:24,107
Speaker 3: see referees know Ben o'keefa has done it. I think

1054
00:55:24,147 --> 00:55:25,867
Speaker 3: after the Super raug Be final a couple of years

1055
00:55:25,867 --> 00:55:28,907
Speaker 3: ago screenshot a lot of abuse that we've that he

1056
00:55:29,027 --> 00:55:37,067
Speaker 3: got from fans of the losing side. It's just the

1057
00:55:37,187 --> 00:55:41,387
Speaker 3: nature of social media and beating and the two combining

1058
00:55:41,467 --> 00:55:47,827
Speaker 3: together to make a pretty toxic sort of relationship. Eight

1059
00:55:47,947 --> 00:55:49,707
Speaker 3: hundred and eighty ten eighty nine two nine two for

1060
00:55:49,827 --> 00:55:53,707
Speaker 3: a text message? Does there need to be more restrictions

1061
00:55:53,747 --> 00:55:57,467
Speaker 3: in place? I see there's a bill before government to

1062
00:55:58,587 --> 00:56:02,667
Speaker 3: basically restrict New Zealander. Is the only place that'll be

1063
00:56:02,707 --> 00:56:06,107
Speaker 3: able to bet on sport or racing is through the

1064
00:56:06,147 --> 00:56:10,747
Speaker 3: tea At the moment, you can open up an account

1065
00:56:10,827 --> 00:56:14,107
Speaker 3: with a few others around the globe. If that goes through,

1066
00:56:15,187 --> 00:56:17,147
Speaker 3: it'd be restricted and you can only bet through those

1067
00:56:17,187 --> 00:56:19,267
Speaker 3: platforms and they wouldn't be able to open accounts with

1068
00:56:20,347 --> 00:56:28,307
Speaker 3: New Zealand residents. It's kind of crazy. You look through

1069
00:56:28,427 --> 00:56:30,867
Speaker 3: at the tap app and you can basically bet on anything.

1070
00:56:32,827 --> 00:56:34,907
Speaker 3: Has it gone too far? Let's take some calls on

1071
00:56:34,947 --> 00:56:37,307
Speaker 3: this this afternoon, Helen, very good afternoon.

1072
00:56:37,667 --> 00:56:40,947
Speaker 11: Yeah, good afternoon, Elliott. Look, I don't have a I'm

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Speaker 11: not on any social media because of you know, these

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00:56:45,547 --> 00:56:50,707
Speaker 11: negative things. Now, Monique was saying that she needs to

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00:56:50,787 --> 00:56:55,787
Speaker 11: be on social media the sponsorship breathe to things like that. Well,

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00:56:56,107 --> 00:57:00,307
Speaker 11: my suggestion would be just too simplistic is don't have

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00:57:01,267 --> 00:57:03,987
Speaker 11: an account yourself, but have an agent who deals with

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00:57:04,227 --> 00:57:06,907
Speaker 11: all the stuff. Because you mentioned that you need it

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00:57:07,067 --> 00:57:10,747
Speaker 11: for the you know, sponsorship, so well, if you just

1080
00:57:10,827 --> 00:57:14,787
Speaker 11: needed the sponsorship, don't have it yourself, get somebody to

1081
00:57:14,827 --> 00:57:16,867
Speaker 11: do it for you, and then it would take a

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00:57:16,947 --> 00:57:17,667
Speaker 11: lot of pressure off.

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00:57:17,707 --> 00:57:17,787
Speaker 19: Now.

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00:57:17,787 --> 00:57:19,547
Speaker 11: I don't know if this is being simplistic, but this

1085
00:57:19,667 --> 00:57:20,387
Speaker 11: is my suggestion.

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00:57:21,427 --> 00:57:23,307
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's a very good sedition. I mean,

1087
00:57:23,347 --> 00:57:25,427
Speaker 3: the message shouldn't be sent in the first place, of course,

1088
00:57:25,707 --> 00:57:28,867
Speaker 3: but to protect the players, I think, yeah, getting an

1089
00:57:28,947 --> 00:57:31,347
Speaker 3: agent or someone who is just going to be able

1090
00:57:31,387 --> 00:57:33,307
Speaker 3: to flood through it and set up the posts or

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00:57:33,307 --> 00:57:36,267
Speaker 3: whatever that needs to be done to do the sponsorship

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00:57:36,307 --> 00:57:38,187
Speaker 3: and advertising. It would protect them, wouldn't it.

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00:57:38,707 --> 00:57:41,507
Speaker 11: Yes, I mean I couldn't handle it. Frankly.

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00:57:42,587 --> 00:57:45,987
Speaker 3: Oh, it's quite remind I mean the messages that she

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00:57:46,147 --> 00:57:50,107
Speaker 3: got about, you know, basically death threats and various things

1096
00:57:50,147 --> 00:57:52,827
Speaker 3: for well, I mean with us the greatest expect for

1097
00:57:53,187 --> 00:57:55,627
Speaker 3: a lower level tennis player and working her way up

1098
00:57:55,667 --> 00:57:58,107
Speaker 3: in her career. It's just incredible that, you know, these

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00:57:58,147 --> 00:57:59,347
Speaker 3: people target people like that.

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00:57:59,747 --> 00:57:59,907
Speaker 8: Yes.

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00:58:00,027 --> 00:58:03,867
Speaker 11: Now, also, like, while I'm on this subject, you know

1102
00:58:03,987 --> 00:58:06,707
Speaker 11: these kids at school who are getting these terrible text

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00:58:06,747 --> 00:58:10,507
Speaker 11: messages over the SPA and messages. Well, I've got some

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00:58:10,667 --> 00:58:15,827
Speaker 11: suggestions for this as well. I don't know, it's probably

1105
00:58:15,907 --> 00:58:19,467
Speaker 11: having anyway. Parents should tell their children to only give

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00:58:19,867 --> 00:58:25,507
Speaker 11: their phone numbers to people who are absolutely trustworthy. And

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00:58:26,267 --> 00:58:27,947
Speaker 11: there should be some I don't know, I don't have

1108
00:58:28,027 --> 00:58:31,027
Speaker 11: a smartphone. There should be some way on the smartphone

1109
00:58:31,267 --> 00:58:33,987
Speaker 11: to block off, to block these numbers. So, I mean,

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00:58:34,187 --> 00:58:35,667
Speaker 11: you know, it's just horrible.

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00:58:36,507 --> 00:58:38,987
Speaker 3: It certainly is. Helen, You're right, and you can block

1112
00:58:39,067 --> 00:58:42,947
Speaker 3: these people and whether it's school kids or whether it's

1113
00:58:42,987 --> 00:58:47,507
Speaker 3: the people who are beating messaging athletes like that, but

1114
00:58:47,947 --> 00:58:50,467
Speaker 3: the rate of messages that they get and the different

1115
00:58:50,507 --> 00:58:53,027
Speaker 3: accounts that you know, you block one account someone or

1116
00:58:53,107 --> 00:58:55,467
Speaker 3: just set up a new account with a different name

1117
00:58:55,507 --> 00:58:58,307
Speaker 3: the next day and send similar messages on. It's all

1118
00:58:58,387 --> 00:59:00,627
Speaker 3: driven by money, isn't it. In terms of the betting

1119
00:59:00,827 --> 00:59:03,187
Speaker 3: thanks to their call, Helen, this is driven by people

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00:59:03,507 --> 00:59:05,147
Speaker 3: who've lost the money. They thought they're on to a

1121
00:59:05,227 --> 00:59:09,987
Speaker 3: sure thing. They found a good set of odds online

1122
00:59:10,027 --> 00:59:12,107
Speaker 3: and it hasn't worked out for them and they've been

1123
00:59:12,147 --> 00:59:16,467
Speaker 3: tipped over the edge. There are ways to block it,

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00:59:16,707 --> 00:59:20,747
Speaker 3: and I think you're intermediary idea is a decent one.

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00:59:21,707 --> 00:59:23,747
Speaker 3: But a lot of those younger players, probably on tour,

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00:59:24,387 --> 00:59:26,547
Speaker 3: the likes of Monique Barry, don't have a lot of

1127
00:59:26,587 --> 00:59:29,747
Speaker 3: prize money, still working their way up, getting sponsorships and

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00:59:29,827 --> 00:59:32,387
Speaker 3: various things like that. They're kind of doing it themselves.

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00:59:34,827 --> 00:59:37,027
Speaker 3: I'm sure for someone like a at least like a

1130
00:59:37,107 --> 00:59:41,467
Speaker 3: name out of the year Naomio Osaka or you know,

1131
00:59:41,587 --> 00:59:44,187
Speaker 3: on the mean side of things, you know, a Gunick Center,

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00:59:44,227 --> 00:59:46,667
Speaker 3: he might be a bit for different reasons as of today.

1133
00:59:46,747 --> 00:59:49,627
Speaker 3: But they've got they'll have managers, they'll have agents, they'll

1134
00:59:49,667 --> 00:59:52,227
Speaker 3: have social media people because they have the big bucks

1135
00:59:52,267 --> 00:59:55,707
Speaker 3: behind them, and they'll never see it. They probably don't

1136
00:59:55,747 --> 00:59:58,787
Speaker 3: even have control of their Instagram, probably don't even have

1137
00:59:58,827 --> 01:00:00,867
Speaker 3: a login. It's all done by their managers. But for

1138
01:00:00,947 --> 01:00:07,587
Speaker 3: someone on the level of a New Zealand player that

1139
01:00:07,707 --> 01:00:09,947
Speaker 3: is making your way out on circuit and trying their

1140
01:00:10,027 --> 01:00:13,947
Speaker 3: very best and tournaments that are low level, they just

1141
01:00:13,987 --> 01:00:16,107
Speaker 3: don't have the money to do that. I think it's

1142
01:00:16,467 --> 01:00:17,707
Speaker 3: the right So I think you're on the right track,

1143
01:00:17,747 --> 01:00:19,507
Speaker 3: and I just don't know that the money is there

1144
01:00:19,547 --> 01:00:25,467
Speaker 3: probably for some of these people. Up A Rahama says

1145
01:00:25,747 --> 01:00:27,787
Speaker 3: it's not the fault of these sports punting allegat. The

1146
01:00:27,827 --> 01:00:30,107
Speaker 3: issue is that players are accessible on social media, and

1147
01:00:30,147 --> 01:00:35,227
Speaker 3: then there are psychos with gambling addictions. Many talks. I

1148
01:00:35,267 --> 01:00:37,227
Speaker 3: think it's the combination of it too. I think you're

1149
01:00:37,227 --> 01:00:42,067
Speaker 3: making good points the accessibility now of players. As we

1150
01:00:42,147 --> 01:00:45,307
Speaker 3: touched on there with Minnick Barry in our chat twenty

1151
01:00:45,627 --> 01:00:48,787
Speaker 3: years ago, let's say two thousand and five, social media

1152
01:00:48,947 --> 01:00:51,027
Speaker 3: was only in its infancy. You wouldn't be able to

1153
01:00:51,027 --> 01:00:53,907
Speaker 3: track down these players on lease. You saw them in person.

1154
01:00:54,827 --> 01:00:57,787
Speaker 3: Now google their name, you'll find an Instagram account or

1155
01:00:57,787 --> 01:01:02,667
Speaker 3: a Facebook account, Twitter account, and you can connect directly

1156
01:01:02,747 --> 01:01:05,627
Speaker 3: with them, which is one of the good things about

1157
01:01:05,667 --> 01:01:09,187
Speaker 3: social media, connect with these players, with these athletes. But

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01:01:09,267 --> 01:01:14,907
Speaker 3: when it's used like this and used by gamblers who've

1159
01:01:14,947 --> 01:01:18,827
Speaker 3: had a bad afternoon out a bad beat, that's when

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01:01:18,907 --> 01:01:22,667
Speaker 3: it has any supports. Gambling has been around forever, think

1161
01:01:22,747 --> 01:01:26,787
Speaker 3: back to some of the old movies and seven you know,

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01:01:27,627 --> 01:01:31,547
Speaker 3: ages ago. It's been a part of society for quite

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01:01:31,587 --> 01:01:34,027
Speaker 3: some time. New Zealand has been around since about nine

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01:01:34,107 --> 01:01:41,707
Speaker 3: ninety six, certainly grown since then. And it's so easy

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01:01:41,747 --> 01:01:43,027
Speaker 3: to bet now as well. So I think it's the

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01:01:43,067 --> 01:01:46,467
Speaker 3: combination of all of the things. No one factor necessarily.

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01:01:46,867 --> 01:01:49,107
Speaker 3: But I could pick up my phone right now while

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01:01:49,107 --> 01:01:53,187
Speaker 3: I'm talking to you place a bet on something. It

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01:01:53,387 --> 01:01:55,867
Speaker 3: used to be you have to ring the tab or

1170
01:01:56,547 --> 01:01:59,347
Speaker 3: march down to your local tab and fill out the

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01:01:59,427 --> 01:02:03,667
Speaker 3: form and do the bet that way. The accessibility, the

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01:02:03,747 --> 01:02:09,427
Speaker 3: ease of everything has made it so much easier one

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Speaker 3: hundred and eighty teen eighty nine, two ninety two For

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01:02:11,227 --> 01:02:14,547
Speaker 3: a text Messa Tony sees this managers costs from twenty

1175
01:02:14,587 --> 01:02:19,227
Speaker 3: percent up she needs the money, not some suit. Just yeah,

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01:02:19,867 --> 01:02:22,947
Speaker 3: probably the money would be the bigger issue with a

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Speaker 3: lot of these players. Did we need to be more

1178
01:02:28,267 --> 01:02:33,547
Speaker 3: restrictions around bedding? It's an interesting question. Take a break,

1179
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Speaker 3: come back with more after this here on news Talk

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Speaker 3: ZEBB twenty gates after one.

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Speaker 1: One Crunch hold Engage Weekend Sports with GJ. Gunner Homes

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01:02:43,107 --> 01:02:45,867
Speaker 1: New Zealand's most trusted her Bilder News Talk ZIBB.

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01:02:47,107 --> 01:02:50,067
Speaker 3: It is coming up half past one on News Talk

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Speaker 3: ZIPB Weekend Sport Elliott Smith and for Jason Pine this

1185
01:02:53,627 --> 01:02:57,867
Speaker 3: weekend talking Beasting this hour on the programme, you might

1186
01:02:57,867 --> 01:02:59,507
Speaker 3: have hit our chat with Manik Barry at the start

1187
01:02:59,507 --> 01:03:02,987
Speaker 3: of the hour around the abuse that she's copped. She

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01:03:03,067 --> 01:03:06,187
Speaker 3: won't be alone. James Watt, fellow New Zealand player, also

1189
01:03:07,187 --> 01:03:08,987
Speaker 3: talking about this in the piece of New Zealand. Here

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01:03:08,987 --> 01:03:12,107
Speaker 3: a very good piece by Bonnie Jansen which came out

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01:03:12,107 --> 01:03:18,067
Speaker 3: a few days ago, talking about the punters that in

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01:03:18,427 --> 01:03:21,307
Speaker 3: both the use of the term punters that abuse them.

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01:03:22,507 --> 01:03:26,307
Speaker 3: I know the World Tennis Federation, Sorry Women's Centers Isseration,

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01:03:26,387 --> 01:03:29,467
Speaker 3: the ATF All England Law and Tennis Club, United States

1195
01:03:29,507 --> 01:03:33,547
Speaker 3: Tennis Association have launched this program to try and filter

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01:03:33,707 --> 01:03:37,387
Speaker 3: out abusive or threatening messages across the whole range of

1197
01:03:37,907 --> 01:03:41,107
Speaker 3: social media. This isn't, I guess, necessarily a new problem

1198
01:03:41,307 --> 01:03:46,307
Speaker 3: that they're confronting in the relative sense. They're trying to

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Speaker 3: coordinate it. But really, should we be able to bet

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01:03:51,747 --> 01:03:55,667
Speaker 3: on itf matches? Should there be some restriction on the

1201
01:03:55,707 --> 01:03:59,027
Speaker 3: amount of matches you can bet at the level of

1202
01:03:59,147 --> 01:04:02,827
Speaker 3: matches you can bed at or is it too far

1203
01:04:02,947 --> 01:04:10,467
Speaker 3: gone now? People that just find whatever's live, they'll get

1204
01:04:10,467 --> 01:04:12,627
Speaker 3: a mugsy they'll get it to be done for them,

1205
01:04:12,707 --> 01:04:15,947
Speaker 3: easy bit whatever it might be, go oh yeah, that

1206
01:04:16,067 --> 01:04:16,987
Speaker 3: looks a the right bang on.

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Speaker 20: They go.

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Speaker 3: With no regard for what actually the event is or

1209
01:04:22,547 --> 01:04:27,547
Speaker 3: whether they're going to have any interest in it. It's

1210
01:04:27,547 --> 01:04:30,027
Speaker 3: an interesting time, isn't it. In the world is sport

1211
01:04:30,067 --> 01:04:37,027
Speaker 3: around bissing? We hear Caleb Clark pull out of Super

1212
01:04:37,067 --> 01:04:41,467
Speaker 3: Rugby Fantasy in the week. I wonder, if you're a player,

1213
01:04:42,947 --> 01:04:45,027
Speaker 3: if you have any recourse to go actually, I don't

1214
01:04:45,027 --> 01:04:49,187
Speaker 3: want to be bit on. Do they have any saying

1215
01:04:49,267 --> 01:04:53,627
Speaker 3: that if you're a player that's playing sport and go Actually,

1216
01:04:53,627 --> 01:04:55,427
Speaker 3: I don't want people to put money on my matches.

1217
01:04:59,307 --> 01:05:01,187
Speaker 3: Would it do anything? Would you be able to stop that?

1218
01:05:01,267 --> 01:05:05,947
Speaker 3: There's so many bidding agencies around the globe, Probably no

1219
01:05:06,027 --> 01:05:10,387
Speaker 3: way of restricting it. The horse might have bolted in

1220
01:05:10,587 --> 01:05:15,187
Speaker 3: that regard. Twenty seven Away from two on News Talk

1221
01:05:15,267 --> 01:05:22,307
Speaker 3: Zirb Andre frud is an executive director at the Problem

1222
01:05:22,467 --> 01:05:27,667
Speaker 3: Gambling Foundation. She joins us now on the program, what's

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01:05:27,707 --> 01:05:30,787
Speaker 3: your reaction to a lot of these players that we've

1224
01:05:30,867 --> 01:05:33,307
Speaker 3: heard from in the last week while Nique Bowr and

1225
01:05:33,347 --> 01:05:36,187
Speaker 3: others as we heard on the program Andre and the

1226
01:05:36,267 --> 01:05:39,867
Speaker 3: abuse that they've been getting on social media.

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Speaker 16: But that's really concerning, and unfortunately that's one of the

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01:05:43,547 --> 01:05:47,227
Speaker 16: awful things that happens. The more we see gambling becoming

1229
01:05:47,547 --> 01:05:50,427
Speaker 16: entrenched in the sports, you know, we see it have

1230
01:05:50,507 --> 01:05:53,507
Speaker 16: an effect on the players, you know who go out there.

1231
01:05:53,587 --> 01:05:56,947
Speaker 16: They're highly skilled individuals and you know, they're doing what

1232
01:05:57,067 --> 01:06:00,827
Speaker 16: they do best, they're playing their sport, and people sometimes

1233
01:06:01,067 --> 01:06:04,387
Speaker 16: forget that gambling is gambling and that you're putting money

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01:06:04,427 --> 01:06:08,187
Speaker 16: on something that is risk and you don't know what

1235
01:06:08,267 --> 01:06:09,987
Speaker 16: the outcome is going to be, and that's the whole

1236
01:06:10,107 --> 01:06:15,227
Speaker 16: nature of gambling. So yeah, it's unfortunate, that very unfortunate

1237
01:06:15,307 --> 01:06:16,707
Speaker 16: that that sort of thing does go on.

1238
01:06:17,227 --> 01:06:20,387
Speaker 3: Has your organization heard of sports people? Does this increase

1239
01:06:20,507 --> 01:06:22,587
Speaker 3: an increasing trend that's happening around the globe.

1240
01:06:23,467 --> 01:06:26,347
Speaker 16: I've certainly heard of it before, and I think you know,

1241
01:06:27,147 --> 01:06:31,067
Speaker 16: sports betting is really growing in many countries and it

1242
01:06:31,147 --> 01:06:34,347
Speaker 16: contributes to about forty five percent of the online gambling

1243
01:06:34,427 --> 01:06:38,267
Speaker 16: market share. So yeah, it's enormous and it's growing. So

1244
01:06:38,627 --> 01:06:43,827
Speaker 16: that sort of thing, I imagine will continue. And also,

1245
01:06:44,027 --> 01:06:46,627
Speaker 16: you know, we know that gambling does have an impact

1246
01:06:47,307 --> 01:06:51,987
Speaker 16: on the integrity of sports sometimes with sports sports betting too.

1247
01:06:52,667 --> 01:06:54,947
Speaker 3: Do you think more can be fixing that's right? Do

1248
01:06:54,947 --> 01:06:56,947
Speaker 3: you think more can be done to protect and help

1249
01:06:57,027 --> 01:06:59,867
Speaker 3: sports people? I guess people will say it's a betting problem,

1250
01:06:59,947 --> 01:07:01,587
Speaker 3: but it's also a social media problem.

1251
01:07:02,707 --> 01:07:06,427
Speaker 16: It is absolutely and you know that's the thing with

1252
01:07:06,547 --> 01:07:09,707
Speaker 16: social media. People can go on to social media and

1253
01:07:09,787 --> 01:07:13,667
Speaker 16: make these comments and it is really difficult for the

1254
01:07:13,787 --> 01:07:16,707
Speaker 16: players who do get enormously impacted. I'm sure by this.

1255
01:07:17,547 --> 01:07:20,747
Speaker 16: And you know, the more we see, as I said,

1256
01:07:20,907 --> 01:07:24,867
Speaker 16: gambling being becoming entrenched in sports, the more we do

1257
01:07:24,987 --> 01:07:27,707
Speaker 16: see the negative side of that coming through.

1258
01:07:28,347 --> 01:07:31,227
Speaker 3: And how much has that increased in recent years around

1259
01:07:31,307 --> 01:07:34,147
Speaker 3: sports betting because it seems like there are so many

1260
01:07:34,227 --> 01:07:37,787
Speaker 3: avenues now and so many different options to bet on

1261
01:07:38,507 --> 01:07:41,267
Speaker 3: a moment in a sports match, or a certain thing

1262
01:07:41,347 --> 01:07:44,107
Speaker 3: to transpire, or an individual to do a certain actor.

1263
01:07:44,387 --> 01:07:47,467
Speaker 3: It seems to be much more prevalent than perhaps ten

1264
01:07:47,507 --> 01:07:48,387
Speaker 3: to fifteen years ago.

1265
01:07:49,467 --> 01:07:51,787
Speaker 16: It absolutely is. And I'm of the age when I

1266
01:07:51,867 --> 01:07:54,347
Speaker 16: could go to a rugby game and gambling didn't even feature,

1267
01:07:54,547 --> 01:07:58,027
Speaker 16: don't even think about it. But now you know, it's

1268
01:07:58,107 --> 01:08:01,027
Speaker 16: easy twenty four to seven access, you know, and the

1269
01:08:01,107 --> 01:08:04,507
Speaker 16: value we placed on sports raises the potential for gambling

1270
01:08:04,587 --> 01:08:07,747
Speaker 16: risk and harm as well. So just with the growth

1271
01:08:07,947 --> 01:08:11,587
Speaker 16: comes all the sort of side effects I guess of

1272
01:08:12,067 --> 01:08:15,347
Speaker 16: sports betting, which is the risk to people with gambling

1273
01:08:15,467 --> 01:08:18,107
Speaker 16: harm and the things that you've talked about this morning

1274
01:08:18,147 --> 01:08:18,507
Speaker 16: as well.

1275
01:08:19,147 --> 01:08:21,587
Speaker 3: What does your organization see I'm not sure where they

1276
01:08:21,587 --> 01:08:24,387
Speaker 3: have any sports people that have been a cop debuse

1277
01:08:24,587 --> 01:08:27,347
Speaker 3: and come to you or not, But what's your organization

1278
01:08:27,507 --> 01:08:31,667
Speaker 3: seeing on the level I guess of that increased increased

1279
01:08:31,747 --> 01:08:32,667
Speaker 3: nature of sports betting.

1280
01:08:33,507 --> 01:08:36,147
Speaker 16: Well, look, we're certainly seeing because we're seeing a lot

1281
01:08:36,227 --> 01:08:41,707
Speaker 16: of aggressive advertising from the tab they're deliberately targeting eighteen

1282
01:08:41,747 --> 01:08:44,387
Speaker 16: to twenty nine year olds with their app. We're seeing

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Speaker 16: a growth in young people presenting for help with gambling

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Speaker 16: harm and sports betting, and that will continue to grow.

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Speaker 16: And I think people need to understand that there is

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Speaker 16: a risk. And a study has shown that the rate

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Speaker 16: of harmful gambling among sports betters is higher than that

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Speaker 16: of the general gambling population, and young adults and youth,

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Speaker 16: particularly males, are at high risk for problems with sports betting.

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Speaker 16: And then you have things that you mentioned like live

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Speaker 16: and play betting, where you can bet on he'll score

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Speaker 16: the next try, for example, and that's really strongly associated

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Speaker 16: with harmful gambling as well. So people just need to

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Speaker 16: be aware of the risks. And I think with the

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Speaker 16: increase in advertising and the partnership the TAB has with

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Speaker 16: endtain now, we're going to see a lot more harm

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Speaker 16: happening in future years.

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Speaker 3: Andre free with us from the Problem Gambling Foundation. Andrew's

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Speaker 3: one of your thoughts as well. There's a bill that

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Speaker 3: would basically direct all the online gambling sports gambling to

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Speaker 3: THAB and make outsider or offshore betting agencies are illegal

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Speaker 3: to bet their so all the betting that people that

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Speaker 3: do have to come via ta B. What's your view

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Speaker 3: on that.

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Speaker 16: Well, look, in principle we support that, but there will

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Speaker 16: be unintended consequences because obviously there'll be situations where people

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Speaker 16: will get around that. But I think, you know, the

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Speaker 16: TAB has a big responsibility. If they're going to have

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Speaker 16: the market share and be in a privileged position having

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Speaker 16: a monopoly, then they need to increase their consumer protections

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Speaker 16: and make sure they've got really robust time minimization things

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Speaker 16: in place to protect New Zealanders.

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Speaker 3: That's Andre Food from the Problem Gambling Foundation joining us

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Speaker 3: on News Talk ZBB. Fascinating time. Look, I think that

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Speaker 3: the box has been opened, very very hard to close

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Speaker 3: on sports building, but you'd like to think something can

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Speaker 3: be done around the social media abuse that those athletes

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Speaker 3: are copying. Interesting topic for sure. Twenty one away from

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Speaker 3: two on News Talk ZBB is Weekend Sport continues. James

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Speaker 3: mcconey will join us after the break.

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Speaker 1: You be the TMO. Have your say on eight hundred

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Speaker 1: and eighty Weekend Sport with GJ Guns, New Zealand's most

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Speaker 1: trusted home builder.

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Speaker 3: News TALKSBB. Eighteen away from two on News Talk ZBB,

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Speaker 3: week In Sport Continual wing time now as we do

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Speaker 3: this time on a Sunday afternoon to catch up with

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Speaker 3: James mcconey out of Sky the ACC the twenty twenty

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Speaker 3: three Rugby World Cup commentary with me varies pursued James,

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Speaker 3: good afternoon.

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Speaker 8: Oh what a CV. Thanks for adding to it. Elliott's Yeah,

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Speaker 8: good afternoon and great to be back on the show.

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Speaker 3: How good was the opening round of Super Rugby?

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Speaker 19: Well?

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Speaker 8: Incredible? I mean this is the best adversement is having

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Speaker 8: absolute humdingers for games, and there were there were ding dongs,

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Speaker 8: there were barn burners, there were there were last minute

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Speaker 8: you know, nail biss the works, so whatever cliche you

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Speaker 8: want to put on the game, they had it all.

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Speaker 8: But crucially they were close. There were no blowouts and

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Speaker 8: I think that's really a testament to teams just basically

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Speaker 8: building and also getting rid of the rebels, you know,

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Speaker 8: the the Australian challenged spread.

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Speaker 3: Now, which was I think everyone's been hammering away for

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01:12:06,507 --> 01:12:08,187
Speaker 3: a few years. If you get rid of a team,

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01:12:08,707 --> 01:12:10,667
Speaker 3: the time will have to spread out. You'll get better

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Speaker 3: teams out of it. We've been banging on the finally

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Speaker 3: done it. Credit to Phil Warren, Rugby Australia and instant improvement.

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Speaker 8: Yes, and I mean, look the WARRTI that was a

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Speaker 8: heartbreaker for the Islanders last minute try to I think

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Speaker 8: it's a CSFA, a Morney, a prop who scored two

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Speaker 8: tries off the bench. And the bench is a big

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Speaker 8: talking point as well, because if you go fast forward

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01:12:37,707 --> 01:12:41,947
Speaker 8: to the Chiefs game against the Blues, well they had

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01:12:41,987 --> 01:12:45,027
Speaker 8: a loaded bench and Roger Randall actually explained before the game.

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01:12:45,107 --> 01:12:48,987
Speaker 8: He said, well, the All Blacks aren't starting because they

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Speaker 8: haven't been with us that long, so we've got all

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Speaker 8: these plans and systems and it's just too much information

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Speaker 8: for them to take in. So that's why they're coming

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Speaker 8: off the bench. And man, it worked a treat. That

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Speaker 8: was an incredible win in the drizzle at Eden Park

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Speaker 8: last night.

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Speaker 3: And I speaking to you yesterday, they went overly confident

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Speaker 3: that the Chiefs are going to be able to get

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Speaker 3: the job done.

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Speaker 4: No, I wasn't, but then I guess if I was.

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Speaker 8: The one thing I was confident about was the debt

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Speaker 8: that the Chiefs had, and I think that's what gave

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Speaker 8: them the win. The Blues have definitely got what we

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Speaker 8: call title winning hangover, and also maybe they realized that

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Speaker 8: there's a time of the year to peak and it's

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Speaker 8: not February right, so and missing Hoskins Stucco that I

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Speaker 8: think that's a big loss, and possibly just trying to

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01:13:35,587 --> 01:13:37,787
Speaker 8: bet in what to do with their teen to fifteen

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Speaker 8: combo because they had Plumber and Bowden Barrett as their

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Speaker 8: first five and fullback last night. They could end up

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Speaker 8: with Petefeta and Sullivan at some point and there'd be

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Speaker 8: no loss in quality really because those guys are sort

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01:13:52,827 --> 01:13:55,507
Speaker 8: of at their point in their careers with our peaking.

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Speaker 3: As you mentioned, the Chiefs being able to bring off

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Speaker 3: that bench last night. They probably won't be able to

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Speaker 3: do it for the entire season. But having Leonard Brown

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01:14:02,787 --> 01:14:05,747
Speaker 3: and Tupo Vying and Female and others come on for

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01:14:06,387 --> 01:14:09,307
Speaker 3: twenty twenty five minute boost and the back end of

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01:14:09,387 --> 01:14:12,867
Speaker 3: the game certainly made a big difference. At the back

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Speaker 3: end with you know that fatigue early season fatigue setting

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01:14:15,867 --> 01:14:19,187
Speaker 3: in and McKenzie moving back into ten, I thought was

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01:14:19,787 --> 01:14:21,307
Speaker 3: a big change lad in the fixture.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, McKenzie just looked magnificent, didn't he. I think he's

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Speaker 8: just one of those players he can turn it on

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01:14:26,747 --> 01:14:31,187
Speaker 8: it and at certain times and he'll probably be disappointed

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Speaker 8: with things like that happened in the French Test, but

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Speaker 8: that's the only blemish of that Northern Tour for him.

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Speaker 8: So coming out there and just owning the game, being

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Speaker 8: the match winner with those two tries, I think another

1395
01:14:42,867 --> 01:14:45,787
Speaker 8: assist or a sort of an assist of an assist.

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Speaker 8: He was at the forefront of everything they did well

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Speaker 8: in that second half. I just you know, like when

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Speaker 8: it comes to teens and I he's lots to talk

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Speaker 8: about Richard Wonger and he's probably delaying coming back because

1400
01:14:58,547 --> 01:15:01,227
Speaker 8: he's looked at the Test matches last year and thought, well,

1401
01:15:01,667 --> 01:15:04,787
Speaker 8: I can probably still come back and be okay. But

1402
01:15:04,907 --> 01:15:07,267
Speaker 8: if mackenzie tig's playing like that, then maybe Richie will

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01:15:07,307 --> 01:15:10,387
Speaker 8: try and hasten his return because it it won't be

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01:15:10,627 --> 01:15:13,427
Speaker 8: a walk into the scenario McKenzie kids playing like that.

1405
01:15:13,987 --> 01:15:16,667
Speaker 3: Indeed, was there a better story over the weekend than

1406
01:15:16,827 --> 01:15:19,067
Speaker 3: Kyle Priston for the Crusaders on Friday night?

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Speaker 8: That is incredible? Is he a rufer something?

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01:15:22,347 --> 01:15:22,427
Speaker 11: Ye?

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01:15:24,187 --> 01:15:24,787
Speaker 7: He's a rufer?

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01:15:24,987 --> 01:15:29,387
Speaker 8: Yeah exactly, So he's he's got down, he's been brought

1411
01:15:29,387 --> 01:15:32,347
Speaker 8: down to earth, but he's even better on the ground. Look,

1412
01:15:32,387 --> 01:15:37,147
Speaker 8: I mean, having those three tries, he came on early

1413
01:15:37,227 --> 01:15:41,067
Speaker 8: for Noah, hope and seventy one minutes of rugby. Probably

1414
01:15:41,147 --> 01:15:44,467
Speaker 8: wasn't expecting it. He's done all his rugby training and

1415
01:15:45,387 --> 01:15:48,907
Speaker 8: in the Wellington nursery really but then realized there was

1416
01:15:49,187 --> 01:15:51,067
Speaker 8: he was sort of blocked by can Roy guards, so

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01:15:51,187 --> 01:15:54,307
Speaker 8: maybe been sing his chances down at the Crusaders and

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01:15:54,387 --> 01:15:57,787
Speaker 8: it's you know, it'll be great to see him get

1419
01:15:57,867 --> 01:16:00,427
Speaker 8: some time now because I guess the spring thenkle of

1420
01:16:00,507 --> 01:16:02,467
Speaker 8: no I hope he might take some time. Who knows,

1421
01:16:02,547 --> 01:16:05,187
Speaker 8: But that was really cool. And I thought the other

1422
01:16:05,907 --> 01:16:08,187
Speaker 8: thing about that game was a bit like the you know,

1423
01:16:08,267 --> 01:16:11,107
Speaker 8: the eighties movie The Breakfast Club and the song at

1424
01:16:11,107 --> 01:16:14,707
Speaker 8: the end, don't you forget about me? Just watching Color

1425
01:16:14,747 --> 01:16:17,547
Speaker 8: and Grace and Ethan Blackadder and all these guys, you

1426
01:16:17,627 --> 01:16:20,267
Speaker 8: still have to go, oh, that's right. Even David Harvelli,

1427
01:16:20,387 --> 01:16:22,627
Speaker 8: you sedor to to go yeah, those guys are really good,

1428
01:16:22,707 --> 01:16:26,787
Speaker 8: aren't they? And that's what they showed. And seven Reese

1429
01:16:26,907 --> 01:16:29,467
Speaker 8: is just that super rugby level is such a weapon

1430
01:16:29,587 --> 01:16:32,187
Speaker 8: that you know, he had his say too with a

1431
01:16:32,747 --> 01:16:36,427
Speaker 8: try and a freakish setter, and to assist he.

1432
01:16:36,467 --> 01:16:38,107
Speaker 3: Certainly did one thing. I did want to get your

1433
01:16:38,107 --> 01:16:40,867
Speaker 3: thoughts on as well, Artie Sa Vigo and Mowana Pacifica.

1434
01:16:40,907 --> 01:16:43,387
Speaker 3: They'll be guided with that. But I think we saw

1435
01:16:43,467 --> 01:16:46,347
Speaker 3: the immediate left that apply like Artie can bring to

1436
01:16:46,867 --> 01:16:47,827
Speaker 3: Mawana Pacifica.

1437
01:16:49,627 --> 01:16:49,867
Speaker 11: Yeah.

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01:16:50,067 --> 01:16:52,507
Speaker 8: I mean Artie was was immense in that game. I

1439
01:16:52,587 --> 01:16:55,147
Speaker 8: think like there's there's only so much he can do

1440
01:16:55,227 --> 01:16:57,867
Speaker 8: in thirty four degree heats in Perth, and he did

1441
01:16:57,907 --> 01:17:01,347
Speaker 8: as much as he could. It's such a another heartbreaker

1442
01:17:01,427 --> 01:17:05,907
Speaker 8: watching Ben Donaldson, who has got wheels sneakily these Wallabies

1443
01:17:05,947 --> 01:17:06,307
Speaker 8: first five.

1444
01:17:06,347 --> 01:17:07,627
Speaker 7: I will reserve wallab.

1445
01:17:07,347 --> 01:17:11,827
Speaker 8: These first five, scoring a fifty sixty meter try right

1446
01:17:11,907 --> 01:17:14,747
Speaker 8: at the death. So I looked at what Ardie's doing.

1447
01:17:14,947 --> 01:17:19,467
Speaker 8: He is providing just the ultimate and leadership direction. The

1448
01:17:19,587 --> 01:17:23,707
Speaker 8: team looks so much stronger. There are other standouts as well,

1449
01:17:23,827 --> 01:17:27,067
Speaker 8: but really Artie is going to be the glue. He's

1450
01:17:27,107 --> 01:17:29,067
Speaker 8: going to be everything to them in that sense. And

1451
01:17:29,787 --> 01:17:34,267
Speaker 8: also nice to see players, you know, just evolving a bit.

1452
01:17:34,347 --> 01:17:36,427
Speaker 8: There was miracle fire Lung. He looks like he's put

1453
01:17:36,507 --> 01:17:41,267
Speaker 8: on about fifteen kilos. But then same with Jackson Garden Baship.

1454
01:17:41,307 --> 01:17:42,987
Speaker 8: I must ever talked to him as a fuller figured

1455
01:17:43,067 --> 01:17:47,187
Speaker 8: first five myself. Elliott, you know you do have to

1456
01:17:47,987 --> 01:17:51,467
Speaker 8: and it's always touch squeezing into that number ten Jersey certainly.

1457
01:17:51,587 --> 01:17:55,947
Speaker 3: Indeed, Yeah, it's fascinating opening round of Super Rugby it

1458
01:17:56,187 --> 01:17:58,347
Speaker 3: was James McCone. Thank you very much for your time

1459
01:17:58,347 --> 01:17:59,787
Speaker 3: as always on a Sunday afternoon.

1460
01:18:00,787 --> 01:18:01,987
Speaker 8: Cheers Elliott, take care mate.

1461
01:18:02,147 --> 01:18:04,547
Speaker 3: That is James mccaroney joining us on a Sunday as

1462
01:18:04,547 --> 01:18:07,707
Speaker 3: he always does here on weekend board. A couple of

1463
01:18:07,787 --> 01:18:11,187
Speaker 3: texts on Super Rugby that I'll jump to from last year.

1464
01:18:11,187 --> 01:18:15,427
Speaker 3: I'm making some interesting points, so this is from gun

1465
01:18:15,587 --> 01:18:18,627
Speaker 3: up high Eliot. Firstly, congratulations to big offer reaching the

1466
01:18:18,667 --> 01:18:20,907
Speaker 3: one hundred and fifty mark. Well done. Can I make

1467
01:18:20,947 --> 01:18:23,507
Speaker 3: a bold prediction after round one that my Chiefs versus

1468
01:18:23,587 --> 01:18:26,427
Speaker 3: Crusaders at the Tron will be the final. Both teams

1469
01:18:26,427 --> 01:18:28,867
Speaker 3: took time to get into the game and both teams

1470
01:18:28,907 --> 01:18:31,827
Speaker 3: dominated second halves and came out with good wins. Ps.

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01:18:31,867 --> 01:18:35,347
Speaker 3: I'd advised listening to Clad mcwill and latest podcast interesting

1472
01:18:35,387 --> 01:18:38,747
Speaker 3: listen future head coach. Hopefully Razer gets a chance to

1473
01:18:38,867 --> 01:18:45,827
Speaker 3: hear it. Another one says this from Ian Hi Elliot.

1474
01:18:45,907 --> 01:18:47,627
Speaker 3: Of course Japan should have a team in Super Rugby.

1475
01:18:47,667 --> 01:18:51,307
Speaker 3: It expands audience and market. Maybe the Japanese champions earns

1476
01:18:51,307 --> 01:18:53,707
Speaker 3: the right to play in Super Rugby has done wonders

1477
01:18:53,707 --> 01:18:56,427
Speaker 3: to La Fiji with the drawer having joined. Also, don't

1478
01:18:56,467 --> 01:18:59,027
Speaker 3: Insida have some obligation to the Japanese or are we

1479
01:18:59,187 --> 01:19:01,467
Speaker 3: just happy to send has been coaches and players to

1480
01:19:01,547 --> 01:19:04,227
Speaker 3: profit from Japan. I wonder how long before Japan start

1481
01:19:04,267 --> 01:19:07,307
Speaker 3: to question Insida and the current golden arrangement is over

1482
01:19:07,827 --> 01:19:11,507
Speaker 3: interesting to see AFL expansion by comparison, cheers Ian. It's

1483
01:19:11,507 --> 01:19:14,667
Speaker 3: an interesting question around Japan because they've gone hard on

1484
01:19:14,747 --> 01:19:17,907
Speaker 3: the setting up there League one competition. They've got a

1485
01:19:17,947 --> 01:19:21,347
Speaker 3: lot of the best players in the world. I'm not

1486
01:19:21,587 --> 01:19:26,347
Speaker 3: entirely sure that's an invitation to Super Rugby is something

1487
01:19:26,347 --> 01:19:32,147
Speaker 3: they're necessarily after. I can see why people are suggesting it,

1488
01:19:34,827 --> 01:19:36,307
Speaker 3: but I think they're quite happy to forward to their

1489
01:19:36,307 --> 01:19:37,747
Speaker 3: own path. And then there'll be the matter of how

1490
01:19:37,827 --> 01:19:41,707
Speaker 3: you choose the three teams or four teams or whatever

1491
01:19:42,787 --> 01:19:49,347
Speaker 3: it might be that get into Super Rugby Pacific. Debra says,

1492
01:19:49,347 --> 01:19:52,067
Speaker 3: that's Haley any idea where there's no app for Super

1493
01:19:52,147 --> 01:19:55,027
Speaker 3: Rugby this year. It was my go to last year

1494
01:19:55,107 --> 01:19:57,587
Speaker 3: to keep up each week. Debrah, I don't know. We

1495
01:19:57,667 --> 01:19:59,627
Speaker 3: tooked a little bit yesterday. The All Blacks app is

1496
01:19:59,627 --> 01:20:01,707
Speaker 3: apparently shutting down and they're moving to people to ended

1497
01:20:01,827 --> 01:20:04,787
Speaker 3: Up Plus, so that might be the one to download,

1498
01:20:04,867 --> 01:20:07,627
Speaker 3: Debrah the inded Up Plus app. I don't know if

1499
01:20:07,667 --> 01:20:10,427
Speaker 3: it's got a schedule on there on on Super Rugby,

1500
01:20:11,107 --> 01:20:17,507
Speaker 3: a couple of good apps around the place to follow

1501
01:20:17,587 --> 01:20:19,467
Speaker 3: Super Rugby into our plus might be the one to

1502
01:20:19,907 --> 01:20:24,987
Speaker 3: look at. Six line open nine a text message if

1503
01:20:25,027 --> 01:20:28,747
Speaker 3: you do want to join the program anytime this afternoon.

1504
01:20:29,387 --> 01:20:33,947
Speaker 3: One sees this before we take a break. The Highland

1505
01:20:33,987 --> 01:20:36,227
Speaker 3: has suffered through yellow cards. How can a tool play

1506
01:20:36,427 --> 01:20:38,267
Speaker 3: get lower than a low carry when they still had

1507
01:20:38,387 --> 01:20:42,227
Speaker 3: arms out to tackle properly correctly rather cheers Bruce, Thanks

1508
01:20:42,267 --> 01:20:43,587
Speaker 3: very much for the text. A couple on the gambling

1509
01:20:43,587 --> 01:20:45,027
Speaker 3: as well. We'll get too after the break. It is

1510
01:20:45,267 --> 01:20:47,747
Speaker 3: coming up. Eight away from two News Talk ZIBB.

1511
01:20:48,587 --> 01:20:51,907
Speaker 1: Breaking down the Hail Mary's and the epic fails.

1512
01:20:53,187 --> 01:20:57,627
Speaker 3: Weekend sport news Talk. Five away from two on news

1513
01:20:57,707 --> 01:21:00,667
Speaker 3: Talk zib couple of suggestions for deborgh who was having

1514
01:21:00,707 --> 01:21:02,947
Speaker 3: some issues with the Super Rugby app or the All

1515
01:21:02,987 --> 01:21:07,507
Speaker 3: Blacks app. Before the break, Michael says, tribe and metch

1516
01:21:07,587 --> 01:21:09,467
Speaker 3: to his Union Live. If you want to follow Super

1517
01:21:09,547 --> 01:21:12,747
Speaker 3: Rugby and Rugby Championship, you can also hear Super Rugby

1518
01:21:12,827 --> 01:21:14,787
Speaker 3: on Gold Sport and iHeartRadio. You can follow it that

1519
01:21:14,867 --> 01:21:17,667
Speaker 3: way as well, Debrah. So hopefully a couple of options

1520
01:21:17,827 --> 01:21:19,867
Speaker 3: there for you. On the gambling front that we talked

1521
01:21:19,907 --> 01:21:22,627
Speaker 3: about earlier in the hour text High Elliott, It's an

1522
01:21:22,667 --> 01:21:25,147
Speaker 3: interesting conversation on gambling. I've always been a punt for

1523
01:21:25,227 --> 01:21:27,707
Speaker 3: fun kind of guy, but over the last month or so,

1524
01:21:27,867 --> 01:21:29,627
Speaker 3: I think I've gotten a bit too over zealous with

1525
01:21:29,707 --> 01:21:31,547
Speaker 3: my top ups and my spind has gone up about

1526
01:21:31,547 --> 01:21:34,507
Speaker 3: one hundred and fifty percent a week. Trying to cut

1527
01:21:34,587 --> 01:21:37,307
Speaker 3: down is bloody tough, though, because it's advertised everywhere on

1528
01:21:37,387 --> 01:21:40,787
Speaker 3: every broadcast, social media and radio, et cetera. Really is

1529
01:21:40,867 --> 01:21:43,187
Speaker 3: I mean it is wall to wall in terms of

1530
01:21:43,427 --> 01:21:46,787
Speaker 3: some of that advertising at the moment. And get on

1531
01:21:46,867 --> 01:21:51,267
Speaker 3: you for noticing that maybe a step back is required,

1532
01:21:51,267 --> 01:21:53,187
Speaker 3: Peter says, as our high aliot, is there some way

1533
01:21:53,227 --> 01:21:55,987
Speaker 3: to name and shamee these low lives on social media?

1534
01:21:56,067 --> 01:21:57,347
Speaker 3: As a father, I'd like to have it out with

1535
01:21:57,387 --> 01:22:00,427
Speaker 3: these creep saying this about my children. It's a problem

1536
01:22:00,467 --> 01:22:03,707
Speaker 3: with social media. You can put your name, but it's

1537
01:22:03,707 --> 01:22:06,987
Speaker 3: also entirely optional on most services to put your name,

1538
01:22:09,547 --> 01:22:13,507
Speaker 3: and the anonymasy is why these people send us messages

1539
01:22:13,667 --> 01:22:15,707
Speaker 3: in the first place, because they know they can't really

1540
01:22:15,787 --> 01:22:18,627
Speaker 3: be traced by and large or the effort to trace

1541
01:22:18,707 --> 01:22:23,867
Speaker 3: them it's probably not worth it. And there's a fascinating conversation.

1542
01:22:24,227 --> 01:22:27,067
Speaker 3: I think there's more to come in that space after

1543
01:22:27,147 --> 01:22:30,067
Speaker 3: two o'clock and New Sport and whether we talk for

1544
01:22:30,227 --> 01:22:35,707
Speaker 3: Yarnick Center negotiation to get a constructed deal, three month

1545
01:22:35,827 --> 01:22:37,787
Speaker 3: ban for the world number one A men's tennis. We

1546
01:22:37,827 --> 01:22:41,107
Speaker 3: hit the slopes with Alice Robinson as well and sham

1547
01:22:41,147 --> 01:22:43,827
Speaker 3: Ben Gisbergen Daytona five hundred tomorrow after two.

1548
01:22:44,827 --> 01:22:48,987
Speaker 1: The only place for the big names, the big issues,

1549
01:22:49,787 --> 01:22:55,227
Speaker 1: the big controversies and the big conversations. It's all on

1550
01:22:55,387 --> 01:23:00,067
Speaker 1: Weekend Sport on your home of Sports News Talk said.

1551
01:22:59,907 --> 01:23:05,667
Speaker 3: Be welcome back in Weekend Sport on News Talk to

1552
01:23:05,867 --> 01:23:10,027
Speaker 3: be six alfter two, Elliott Smith in for Jason Pine

1553
01:23:11,427 --> 01:23:14,387
Speaker 3: this weekend. Piney back with you on Sports Talk Tomorrow

1554
01:23:14,507 --> 01:23:20,187
Speaker 3: nights final hour of the program. Lots of dig into

1555
01:23:20,827 --> 01:23:23,227
Speaker 3: Alice Robinson's going to join us in a few moments time.

1556
01:23:23,347 --> 01:23:28,307
Speaker 3: Here we alpine skier. Great result for her at the

1557
01:23:28,347 --> 01:23:33,787
Speaker 3: World Championships during the week silver medal and the giant slalom,

1558
01:23:34,947 --> 01:23:37,467
Speaker 3: and she is finding her feet again after a tough

1559
01:23:37,667 --> 01:23:40,667
Speaker 3: couple of years. Alice Robinson's standing by to join us

1560
01:23:40,787 --> 01:23:45,067
Speaker 3: on week in Sport this afternoon. Big news overnight Jarnick

1561
01:23:45,147 --> 01:23:50,947
Speaker 3: Sinner men's tennis world number one has negotiated. You negotiated

1562
01:23:50,987 --> 01:23:54,907
Speaker 3: a three month ban? Might I've heard some Henman talking

1563
01:23:54,947 --> 01:23:59,347
Speaker 3: about it in the news before World Anti Dobig agency

1564
01:23:59,547 --> 01:24:01,387
Speaker 3: and sin they have come to an agreement that will

1565
01:24:01,427 --> 01:24:03,547
Speaker 3: see him ban for three months. He won't miss a

1566
01:24:03,587 --> 01:24:08,707
Speaker 3: Grand Slam. The Australian Open obviously finished a couple of

1567
01:24:08,787 --> 01:24:11,507
Speaker 3: weeks back to or three weeks back. The French Open

1568
01:24:11,627 --> 01:24:14,707
Speaker 3: doesn't start until the end of May. He's back playing

1569
01:24:15,347 --> 01:24:17,907
Speaker 3: by early May. What kind of story? What kind of

1570
01:24:17,987 --> 01:24:21,747
Speaker 3: deal is this? Former New Zealand tennis player?

1571
01:24:21,827 --> 01:24:21,947
Speaker 14: Now?

1572
01:24:22,187 --> 01:24:25,427
Speaker 3: Can this commentate it? Hate it? Lee Ridovanovich to join

1573
01:24:25,507 --> 01:24:28,827
Speaker 3: the program this hour to dig into that issue. And

1574
01:24:28,947 --> 01:24:33,907
Speaker 3: a big morning tomorrow morning for Kiwi Motorsport and Shane

1575
01:24:33,987 --> 01:24:38,387
Speaker 3: van Gisbergen we head Stateside. Nate Ryan to join us

1576
01:24:38,667 --> 01:24:45,867
Speaker 3: NBC Motoring journalist as Shane van Gisberg and ISVG prepares

1577
01:24:46,467 --> 01:24:49,867
Speaker 3: for his first tilts at the Daytona five hundred. Just

1578
01:24:49,947 --> 01:24:54,107
Speaker 3: how different will this be for him? Having had a

1579
01:24:54,187 --> 01:24:58,947
Speaker 3: season of the second tier Exfinity Series, obviously a long

1580
01:24:59,067 --> 01:25:03,587
Speaker 3: career in supercars and Australia as well, But just how

1581
01:25:03,667 --> 01:25:07,027
Speaker 3: different will this be the Daytona five hundred for him?

1582
01:25:07,147 --> 01:25:10,147
Speaker 3: Tomorrow morning NT Ryan to join the program before the

1583
01:25:10,227 --> 01:25:12,507
Speaker 3: hour is out here at News Talks he'd be but

1584
01:25:12,627 --> 01:25:15,747
Speaker 3: as it gets closer to nine after two. We do

1585
01:25:15,987 --> 01:25:21,707
Speaker 3: this every Saturday and every Sunday afternoon and it's in

1586
01:25:21,787 --> 01:25:25,627
Speaker 3: case you missed it. On Weekend Sport we begin with

1587
01:25:25,747 --> 01:25:29,547
Speaker 3: football batman. Chris Wood again finds the back of the

1588
01:25:29,627 --> 01:25:32,147
Speaker 3: net for Nottingham Forest full in just the one from

1589
01:25:32,227 --> 01:25:34,787
Speaker 3: Forest for Chris Wood has a chance here how he

1590
01:25:34,907 --> 01:25:35,867
Speaker 3: chucked it away?

1591
01:25:36,627 --> 01:25:41,587
Speaker 12: Chris Wood had his brilliant pass and having been on

1592
01:25:41,747 --> 01:25:44,467
Speaker 12: the back court for so long, Step four with Chris

1593
01:25:44,547 --> 01:25:48,107
Speaker 12: Wood yet again, eighteen goals for this season.

1594
01:25:48,747 --> 01:25:52,067
Speaker 3: You just cannot switch off when he's are out. Unfortunately,

1595
01:25:52,107 --> 01:25:54,827
Speaker 3: that's where the good news ends for Chris Woods and

1596
01:25:55,067 --> 01:25:59,147
Speaker 3: for Nottingham Forest. They fell to one to fullher Manchester

1597
01:25:59,267 --> 01:26:01,267
Speaker 3: City though look like they're finding some form of old

1598
01:26:01,267 --> 01:26:03,907
Speaker 3: at least in the Premier League. Good new raunch corner.

1599
01:26:04,347 --> 01:26:09,987
Speaker 3: Harlan's flesh Stitch turned their time Lucketee.

1600
01:26:12,707 --> 01:26:16,467
Speaker 21: The four cold felt a long time coming, but it's

1601
01:26:16,547 --> 01:26:19,427
Speaker 21: Cardle put a local boy this time.

1602
01:26:19,707 --> 01:26:22,107
Speaker 3: For new Winever and Newcastle has them sitting in forth

1603
01:26:22,147 --> 01:26:24,667
Speaker 3: still with football and Auckland f C their third win

1604
01:26:24,827 --> 01:26:25,467
Speaker 3: on the bounce.

1605
01:26:25,507 --> 01:26:27,867
Speaker 13: Wuldy Heat come up with another one here here's Mourenno

1606
01:26:28,707 --> 01:26:31,027
Speaker 13: has Max Mater on the six yard line.

1607
01:26:31,187 --> 01:26:33,547
Speaker 3: It's a tap d for the Auckland FC.

1608
01:26:34,107 --> 01:26:38,467
Speaker 13: Salasman and two goals in as many minutes. This one

1609
01:26:38,747 --> 01:26:41,427
Speaker 13: a little simpler, but they won't care.

1610
01:26:41,347 --> 01:26:43,867
Speaker 3: How they come two zip to the good Auckland f

1611
01:26:43,947 --> 01:26:47,427
Speaker 3: C doing again beating Western United and puts them five

1612
01:26:47,507 --> 01:26:50,907
Speaker 3: points clear at the top of the A League. Log

1613
01:26:51,227 --> 01:26:54,107
Speaker 3: log to rug beat and a come from behind. When

1614
01:26:54,267 --> 01:26:57,987
Speaker 3: for the Brumbies over the Fijian drawer told the use it.

1615
01:26:58,227 --> 01:27:03,427
Speaker 13: And Logan's one. Here come the Brumbies. It is over

1616
01:27:03,587 --> 01:27:08,347
Speaker 13: the top of its card the sham Browning and the

1617
01:27:08,427 --> 01:27:13,227
Speaker 13: Brumbies they had hit back big time and they're in front.

1618
01:27:13,027 --> 01:27:16,587
Speaker 3: Of Edits that man Luke Rimer thirty six thirty two.

1619
01:27:16,667 --> 01:27:19,747
Speaker 3: They held out in the end did the Brumbies, and

1620
01:27:19,867 --> 01:27:23,507
Speaker 3: an even more improbable comeback for the Western Force. So

1621
01:27:23,627 --> 01:27:28,107
Speaker 3: but more Wana pacificer Donaldson, Donaldson, he hies a gap.

1622
01:27:28,427 --> 01:27:32,027
Speaker 3: Big Donaldson has a spice. He's got Harry Potter with him.

1623
01:27:32,147 --> 01:27:34,947
Speaker 3: Pay won't dat him, Hey, won't go under the pin.

1624
01:27:35,347 --> 01:27:38,187
Speaker 3: I couldn't shot the gut of my goodness that I

1625
01:27:38,307 --> 01:27:44,787
Speaker 3: believe it. Oh, deer o, deer o here Yes, Western

1626
01:27:44,867 --> 01:27:48,347
Speaker 3: Force betting more Wana pacifica forty five forty four. That's

1627
01:27:48,387 --> 01:27:52,907
Speaker 3: an old school Super twelve vera score for Super rugby,

1628
01:27:54,227 --> 01:27:57,307
Speaker 3: Western Force winning by one. They wore We're forty four

1629
01:27:57,427 --> 01:28:00,587
Speaker 3: thirty one down and finally it's a triumph for the

1630
01:28:00,627 --> 01:28:04,907
Speaker 3: Malti team and the NROLS Malti versus Indigenous All Stars game.

1631
01:28:05,107 --> 01:28:09,947
Speaker 21: Turning it in now Keilly by opposite time he's tracked

1632
01:28:10,027 --> 01:28:14,627
Speaker 21: down and the Bardi finally have their win. That was

1633
01:28:14,667 --> 01:28:20,227
Speaker 21: a remarkable finish. Look at a celebrations. Don't tell them

1634
01:28:20,307 --> 01:28:25,587
Speaker 21: this is an exhibition for the first time. Sin's twenty

1635
01:28:26,307 --> 01:28:30,627
Speaker 21: twenty two. It is the Maori All Stars that will

1636
01:28:30,707 --> 01:28:31,667
Speaker 21: hold the trophy.

1637
01:28:32,067 --> 01:28:34,627
Speaker 3: They got a job done, so too did the Warriors

1638
01:28:34,827 --> 01:28:37,347
Speaker 3: and their pre season hit out against the storm of

1639
01:28:37,427 --> 01:28:40,867
Speaker 3: thirty sixteen to thirty six mil at the halftime break

1640
01:28:40,947 --> 01:28:45,067
Speaker 3: that first game, incidentally of the Nral in Las Vegas.

1641
01:28:45,307 --> 01:28:48,707
Speaker 3: Two weeks today comes around very very quickly. It is

1642
01:28:49,227 --> 01:28:50,427
Speaker 3: twelve after two.

1643
01:28:51,147 --> 01:28:54,827
Speaker 1: Analyzing every view from every angle in the morning, World

1644
01:28:55,027 --> 01:28:58,907
Speaker 1: Weekend Sport All eighty U S talks in me.

1645
01:28:59,467 --> 01:29:02,427
Speaker 3: Well, big resolved for Kiwi skare Alice Robinson this week.

1646
01:29:02,427 --> 01:29:10,507
Speaker 12: Winner of the silver medal, represent you feeling, Allie grob

1647
01:29:10,627 --> 01:29:11,107
Speaker 12: It so.

1648
01:29:13,867 --> 01:29:14,027
Speaker 21: Yes.

1649
01:29:14,107 --> 01:29:16,307
Speaker 3: Indeed, she bagged the silver medal and the women's Giant

1650
01:29:16,387 --> 01:29:20,627
Speaker 3: slalom at the Alpine Skiing World Championships in Selbuch, and

1651
01:29:20,787 --> 01:29:24,067
Speaker 3: she joins us now on news talk zib Alisair. Thanks

1652
01:29:24,107 --> 01:29:26,307
Speaker 3: so much for your time. Hi, Yeah, thanks for having

1653
01:29:26,387 --> 01:29:28,987
Speaker 3: me well, Alice, A few days on from your silver

1654
01:29:29,067 --> 01:29:32,667
Speaker 3: medal and the Giant Slalom World Championships in Austria, has

1655
01:29:32,827 --> 01:29:33,787
Speaker 3: it sunk in yet?

1656
01:29:34,547 --> 01:29:37,907
Speaker 2: Yeah? No, It's been a really really awesome few days.

1657
01:29:37,987 --> 01:29:41,747
Speaker 2: It's been busy and exciting, but yeah, it's just a

1658
01:29:41,787 --> 01:29:44,387
Speaker 2: great feeling and just yeah, ready to get on with

1659
01:29:44,427 --> 01:29:45,187
Speaker 2: the rest of the season.

1660
01:29:45,227 --> 01:29:45,307
Speaker 1: Now.

1661
01:29:45,387 --> 01:29:47,507
Speaker 3: I guess did you feel like you've been in good

1662
01:29:47,667 --> 01:29:50,227
Speaker 3: form leading into the World Championships.

1663
01:29:50,587 --> 01:29:52,867
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've been felt really good this whole season. I've

1664
01:29:52,907 --> 01:29:56,867
Speaker 2: been really happy with where my skiing's at, with my consistency,

1665
01:29:57,027 --> 01:29:59,427
Speaker 2: and I just had to win a couple of weeks

1666
01:29:59,467 --> 01:30:01,307
Speaker 2: before the World champ so I was feeling like I

1667
01:30:01,467 --> 01:30:04,387
Speaker 2: was in a good spot. And yeah, it's been ski

1668
01:30:04,547 --> 01:30:06,467
Speaker 2: racing and anything can happen on the day. It was

1669
01:30:06,547 --> 01:30:09,027
Speaker 2: just a great feeling to be in good form and

1670
01:30:09,107 --> 01:30:10,187
Speaker 2: be able to execute as well.

1671
01:30:10,867 --> 01:30:13,107
Speaker 3: I know in one interview store you mentioned the conditions

1672
01:30:13,227 --> 01:30:16,587
Speaker 3: heading into the race and mentioning they were a little

1673
01:30:16,627 --> 01:30:19,747
Speaker 3: bit tricky. What were they like for us and how

1674
01:30:19,827 --> 01:30:20,467
Speaker 3: did you adapt?

1675
01:30:21,027 --> 01:30:23,427
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was challenging. I guess. It had been quite

1676
01:30:23,547 --> 01:30:26,227
Speaker 2: cold and went to like the last week or ten

1677
01:30:26,307 --> 01:30:29,667
Speaker 2: days before the race, and the night before the race

1678
01:30:29,747 --> 01:30:32,227
Speaker 2: it was raining and quite like foggy and wet. So

1679
01:30:32,347 --> 01:30:35,227
Speaker 2: the snow changed a lot from the conditions that we

1680
01:30:35,307 --> 01:30:38,307
Speaker 2: were training on. Was a lot more like spring conditions,

1681
01:30:38,427 --> 01:30:41,667
Speaker 2: like softer snow, which I've always found quite challenging. So

1682
01:30:42,427 --> 01:30:43,707
Speaker 2: that was the only thing I was a little bit

1683
01:30:43,747 --> 01:30:46,787
Speaker 2: nervous about was the conditions that I think I've learned,

1684
01:30:47,747 --> 01:30:49,507
Speaker 2: I mean, getting better at being a bit more all

1685
01:30:49,627 --> 01:30:52,307
Speaker 2: rounded before the difference so snow conditions. So I was

1686
01:30:52,347 --> 01:30:55,547
Speaker 2: happy with the adjustments and I managed to make it work.

1687
01:30:56,387 --> 01:30:59,907
Speaker 3: You sure did. You mentioned the winning complants a few

1688
01:30:59,947 --> 01:31:01,947
Speaker 3: weeks ago you got a top podium there in the

1689
01:31:02,267 --> 01:31:05,827
Speaker 3: World Cup event. How big was that for your confidence

1690
01:31:06,347 --> 01:31:08,027
Speaker 3: getting into the World Championships.

1691
01:31:08,547 --> 01:31:10,187
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it was so special. It was like

1692
01:31:10,267 --> 01:31:13,347
Speaker 2: my first win in four years. I mean, I've had

1693
01:31:13,707 --> 01:31:15,627
Speaker 2: a lot of podium form, but it was nice to

1694
01:31:15,707 --> 01:31:18,507
Speaker 2: finally take that office getting the win again. And it's

1695
01:31:18,627 --> 01:31:21,067
Speaker 2: nice to go into a big event with yeah, with

1696
01:31:21,187 --> 01:31:24,187
Speaker 2: a big confidence booster and something like that, and it's

1697
01:31:24,227 --> 01:31:27,107
Speaker 2: good going. It's exciting going to these like World champs

1698
01:31:27,107 --> 01:31:29,467
Speaker 2: and big events knowing you've got potential to do something.

1699
01:31:30,387 --> 01:31:33,627
Speaker 3: What's changed, Elis? You mentioned the first win in four years,

1700
01:31:33,707 --> 01:31:37,027
Speaker 3: which is fantastic and cromplex and obviously a silver medal

1701
01:31:37,587 --> 01:31:40,507
Speaker 3: here and now in a couple of days ago in Austria.

1702
01:31:40,627 --> 01:31:43,347
Speaker 3: So what have you done to change and how tough

1703
01:31:43,427 --> 01:31:48,107
Speaker 3: have the last four years been for you not getting

1704
01:31:48,267 --> 01:31:51,107
Speaker 3: a victory under the belt. Yeah, for sure.

1705
01:31:51,147 --> 01:31:55,147
Speaker 2: I think I had a two quite challenging years where

1706
01:31:55,147 --> 01:31:56,747
Speaker 2: I had a lot of crashes. It kind of it

1707
01:31:56,907 --> 01:31:59,107
Speaker 2: was during like the COVID times, I found really tough

1708
01:31:59,267 --> 01:32:02,027
Speaker 2: being so young and so far away from home and

1709
01:32:02,227 --> 01:32:05,067
Speaker 2: then getting COVID and missing big events and crashing a bit,

1710
01:32:05,147 --> 01:32:06,067
Speaker 2: and it was a bit.

1711
01:32:05,987 --> 01:32:06,307
Speaker 20: Of a mare.

1712
01:32:07,427 --> 01:32:10,187
Speaker 2: And then I changed equipment and it took me a

1713
01:32:10,267 --> 01:32:12,627
Speaker 2: year to kind of get that organized. And then last

1714
01:32:13,107 --> 01:32:16,827
Speaker 2: the last season this like last year and this season

1715
01:32:16,987 --> 01:32:18,867
Speaker 2: have both been really good. Last year, I was just

1716
01:32:19,667 --> 01:32:22,027
Speaker 2: second a lot, so I was in you know, spots

1717
01:32:22,107 --> 01:32:24,347
Speaker 2: to be winning races that I missed the book wins

1718
01:32:24,427 --> 01:32:27,707
Speaker 2: by like one one hundredth one time and then by

1719
01:32:27,747 --> 01:32:30,907
Speaker 2: a couple of tenths another time, so it was still good.

1720
01:32:31,347 --> 01:32:32,907
Speaker 2: I was still in really good form last year, and

1721
01:32:32,907 --> 01:32:35,587
Speaker 2: it was just nice to that the hundreds went my

1722
01:32:35,707 --> 01:32:38,747
Speaker 2: way and I got a wed this year and hopefully

1723
01:32:38,747 --> 01:32:39,747
Speaker 2: we'll see what happens next.

1724
01:32:40,787 --> 01:32:43,627
Speaker 3: On that change to the equipment, How tricky is it

1725
01:32:43,747 --> 01:32:48,427
Speaker 3: to adjust to new equipment when you've become so adapted

1726
01:32:48,467 --> 01:32:52,067
Speaker 3: to one style and then going into to new equipment

1727
01:32:52,187 --> 01:32:55,227
Speaker 3: For us leg people out there, just to explain for

1728
01:32:55,347 --> 01:32:58,067
Speaker 3: us how tricky it is to get used to new

1729
01:32:58,147 --> 01:33:00,187
Speaker 3: equipment on the slopes.

1730
01:33:00,707 --> 01:33:03,627
Speaker 2: Yeah, So I switched to Solomon two years ago, and

1731
01:33:04,467 --> 01:33:07,067
Speaker 2: it's definitely it's a huge adjustment. I mean, equipment's very

1732
01:33:07,067 --> 01:33:10,427
Speaker 2: important in ske racing, and sometimes you can switch and

1733
01:33:10,547 --> 01:33:13,147
Speaker 2: things work straight away, and then other times it takes

1734
01:33:13,267 --> 01:33:15,787
Speaker 2: a process to You have to do a lot of testing,

1735
01:33:15,827 --> 01:33:19,267
Speaker 2: a lot of trial and error with getting the equipment sorted.

1736
01:33:19,347 --> 01:33:21,027
Speaker 2: So it did take me a bit of time to

1737
01:33:21,027 --> 01:33:22,827
Speaker 2: get it sorted in it but now I'm like, have

1738
01:33:22,947 --> 01:33:25,067
Speaker 2: it dialed in and it's good. But it's a big

1739
01:33:25,187 --> 01:33:27,947
Speaker 2: process because it's, yeah, you're changing pretty much everything, and

1740
01:33:28,547 --> 01:33:30,707
Speaker 2: the brand that I spot was using before, I've used

1741
01:33:30,747 --> 01:33:33,067
Speaker 2: my whole life. So it was definitely a bit of adjustment,

1742
01:33:33,227 --> 01:33:36,347
Speaker 2: just learning what works and trying out everything. But then

1743
01:33:36,427 --> 01:33:37,547
Speaker 2: it's work out for the best.

1744
01:33:37,627 --> 01:33:41,387
Speaker 3: Now you're posting some great results as we've discussed in

1745
01:33:41,507 --> 01:33:44,627
Speaker 3: the Giant Slalom, you obviously compete in the Super G

1746
01:33:45,427 --> 01:33:48,027
Speaker 3: as well. Where are you at and that discipline and

1747
01:33:48,307 --> 01:33:50,987
Speaker 3: is it fear to say that the Giant Slalom is

1748
01:33:51,067 --> 01:33:55,507
Speaker 3: the favorite of the two disciplines. Yeah, GS is where.

1749
01:33:55,307 --> 01:33:58,827
Speaker 2: I've had pretty much all my success success and so

1750
01:33:58,907 --> 01:34:02,147
Speaker 2: it's for sure my favorite. It's more technical than SUPERG

1751
01:34:02,347 --> 01:34:05,307
Speaker 2: and it's where I've had all my podiums and wins

1752
01:34:05,507 --> 01:34:08,747
Speaker 2: and Super G and downhill a bit more speed events

1753
01:34:08,787 --> 01:34:11,947
Speaker 2: and super G. I've been kind of chipping away at

1754
01:34:11,987 --> 01:34:13,587
Speaker 2: it for the last few years, and I'd like to

1755
01:34:13,667 --> 01:34:17,267
Speaker 2: take that next step and be on the podium. I

1756
01:34:17,467 --> 01:34:19,507
Speaker 2: just have been putting a bit more focus on GS.

1757
01:34:19,587 --> 01:34:22,707
Speaker 2: But my goal is to be as competitive in super

1758
01:34:22,787 --> 01:34:24,987
Speaker 2: G as I am in GS, and I'm still working

1759
01:34:25,027 --> 01:34:26,867
Speaker 2: towards them and doing all the World Cups and just

1760
01:34:26,947 --> 01:34:28,067
Speaker 2: trying to get better at that too.

1761
01:34:28,907 --> 01:34:31,507
Speaker 3: Que Alpine Scare Alice Robinson with us on week in

1762
01:34:31,667 --> 01:34:35,507
Speaker 3: Sport this afternoon on News Talk. Alisa, Obviously you've detailed

1763
01:34:35,507 --> 01:34:38,707
Speaker 3: the difference is there, But does the confidence of the

1764
01:34:38,787 --> 01:34:41,947
Speaker 3: good results in Giant slalom give you a little bit

1765
01:34:41,987 --> 01:34:46,267
Speaker 3: more confidence as you head into the Super G events

1766
01:34:46,467 --> 01:34:49,787
Speaker 3: now that you've got some podiums and the other discipline, Yeah,

1767
01:34:49,867 --> 01:34:50,187
Speaker 3: for sure.

1768
01:34:50,227 --> 01:34:52,587
Speaker 2: I mean they're very different, but they's I mean that

1769
01:34:52,627 --> 01:34:55,827
Speaker 2: they're still on skis and you're still making turns, so

1770
01:34:56,187 --> 01:34:59,587
Speaker 2: it's different, but it's you definitely can carry the confidence

1771
01:34:59,627 --> 01:35:03,587
Speaker 2: from GS over into that and it's I really enjoy

1772
01:35:03,627 --> 01:35:05,867
Speaker 2: doing the speed events and then downhill again to another

1773
01:35:05,987 --> 01:35:07,627
Speaker 2: event that I'm trying to come and chip away it

1774
01:35:07,667 --> 01:35:10,507
Speaker 2: as well, but it's even higher speed, so for sure

1775
01:35:10,587 --> 01:35:13,827
Speaker 2: comforts from GS translates over, but there's still a lot

1776
01:35:13,867 --> 01:35:17,747
Speaker 2: of technical and tactical elements of Super Gene Downhill which

1777
01:35:17,747 --> 01:35:18,187
Speaker 2: are quite.

1778
01:35:18,067 --> 01:35:18,787
Speaker 9: Different to GS.

1779
01:35:19,227 --> 01:35:22,707
Speaker 3: You mentioned the season continues after the World Championship, So

1780
01:35:23,147 --> 01:35:25,627
Speaker 3: what does the next few months look like for Alice

1781
01:35:25,707 --> 01:35:27,427
Speaker 3: Robinson on the slopes.

1782
01:35:28,067 --> 01:35:31,427
Speaker 2: Yeah, the next like five six weeks are pretty crazy.

1783
01:35:32,387 --> 01:35:34,707
Speaker 2: We get pretty much straight back into it this week.

1784
01:35:35,067 --> 01:35:37,707
Speaker 2: This coming week we've got to Giant Solemn World Cups

1785
01:35:37,747 --> 01:35:41,507
Speaker 2: in Italy on Friday and Saturday, so that's quite a

1786
01:35:41,547 --> 01:35:45,027
Speaker 2: big weekend, and then we've got pretty much We've got

1787
01:35:45,107 --> 01:35:49,027
Speaker 2: speed races and Norway, then another GS race in Sweden,

1788
01:35:49,107 --> 01:35:51,067
Speaker 2: then back to Italy for another speed race, and then

1789
01:35:51,627 --> 01:35:53,467
Speaker 2: finally at the end of March, we have the World

1790
01:35:53,507 --> 01:35:56,747
Speaker 2: Cup Finals in Sun Valley in the US, so heading

1791
01:35:56,787 --> 01:35:58,867
Speaker 2: back over there and then we're wrapped up at the

1792
01:35:58,987 --> 01:36:01,107
Speaker 2: end of March. But yeah, every weekend now till the

1793
01:36:01,227 --> 01:36:03,227
Speaker 2: end of March has got a World Cup event.

1794
01:36:03,307 --> 01:36:07,507
Speaker 3: Homslow doesn't really stop under a year now from the

1795
01:36:07,667 --> 01:36:10,307
Speaker 3: Olympic Games the Winter Olympics in twenty twenty six in

1796
01:36:10,427 --> 01:36:14,187
Speaker 3: Milan Courtina. In fact, they'll be on this time in

1797
01:36:14,467 --> 01:36:18,827
Speaker 3: a year exactly. So to the recent run of results

1798
01:36:18,867 --> 01:36:20,907
Speaker 3: give you some confidence, I mean a long way out

1799
01:36:20,947 --> 01:36:23,787
Speaker 3: of course, but as you eye that way down the

1800
01:36:23,867 --> 01:36:27,307
Speaker 3: track that you know you're on the right track, so

1801
01:36:27,467 --> 01:36:29,067
Speaker 3: to speak. Yeah, for sure.

1802
01:36:29,107 --> 01:36:32,547
Speaker 2: I mean I'm just taking every race race by race

1803
01:36:32,587 --> 01:36:36,867
Speaker 2: and not thinking too much about Courtina and the Olympics

1804
01:36:36,907 --> 01:36:38,467
Speaker 2: as yet, But for sure it's always the back in

1805
01:36:38,547 --> 01:36:41,067
Speaker 2: my mind, and they're definitely starting to get a bit

1806
01:36:41,107 --> 01:36:43,587
Speaker 2: more talk about it coming up. But yeah, still a

1807
01:36:43,627 --> 01:36:45,667
Speaker 2: lot a lot to do before then, so you can

1808
01:36:45,747 --> 01:36:48,147
Speaker 2: start worrying about those results next year.

1809
01:36:48,627 --> 01:36:50,427
Speaker 3: Well, going to plan Alis, this will be your third

1810
01:36:50,427 --> 01:36:53,427
Speaker 3: Olympic Games next year, after visits in twenty eighteen and

1811
01:36:53,507 --> 01:36:57,387
Speaker 3: twenty twenty two. Will you use, you know, ideas of

1812
01:36:57,467 --> 01:36:59,707
Speaker 3: how you went at those games and how you prepared

1813
01:36:59,747 --> 01:37:02,387
Speaker 3: for those games. Will you put that into your preparation

1814
01:37:02,547 --> 01:37:04,827
Speaker 3: of how you get ready for it for next year's

1815
01:37:04,947 --> 01:37:05,667
Speaker 3: Olympic Games.

1816
01:37:06,547 --> 01:37:08,107
Speaker 2: I think I'll probably just be doing more of the

1817
01:37:08,147 --> 01:37:10,587
Speaker 2: same of what I've been doing these last couple of years.

1818
01:37:10,667 --> 01:37:13,547
Speaker 2: And we have like a World Cup schedule that we

1819
01:37:13,667 --> 01:37:16,027
Speaker 2: do every year and for me at the Olympics next year,

1820
01:37:16,027 --> 01:37:17,707
Speaker 2: I'm not going to treat it any differently to another

1821
01:37:17,747 --> 01:37:18,307
Speaker 2: World Cup.

1822
01:37:18,267 --> 01:37:20,507
Speaker 16: Race, So I'm just going to be doing more of

1823
01:37:20,547 --> 01:37:20,827
Speaker 16: the same.

1824
01:37:20,947 --> 01:37:21,707
Speaker 8: It's going to be easy.

1825
01:37:21,747 --> 01:37:24,027
Speaker 2: It's in a venue that I've been to plenty of times,

1826
01:37:24,107 --> 01:37:26,147
Speaker 2: and i know the area really well and i know

1827
01:37:26,227 --> 01:37:27,867
Speaker 2: the slope, so I'm just going to be taking it.

1828
01:37:27,907 --> 01:37:30,387
Speaker 2: It's just another race. And then it's just special that

1829
01:37:30,507 --> 01:37:32,347
Speaker 2: you get to have the Olympic rings and you get

1830
01:37:32,387 --> 01:37:34,987
Speaker 2: to represent New Zealand. But for me, the preparation is

1831
01:37:35,027 --> 01:37:35,627
Speaker 2: going to be the same.

1832
01:37:36,187 --> 01:37:38,707
Speaker 3: Fantastic. Well, we look forward to the Olympics and your

1833
01:37:38,827 --> 01:37:41,627
Speaker 3: competition in there, but for the time being, we look

1834
01:37:41,667 --> 01:37:44,587
Speaker 3: forward to hearing about and seeing your results on the

1835
01:37:44,627 --> 01:37:47,707
Speaker 3: slopes in the coming weeks for the rest of your season.

1836
01:37:47,787 --> 01:37:49,867
Speaker 3: Alis Robinson, thank you very much for your time here

1837
01:37:49,907 --> 01:37:53,587
Speaker 3: on News Talk ZV this afternoon. Thank you, sir. See yup,

1838
01:37:53,667 --> 01:37:56,747
Speaker 3: that's Alice Robinson joining us on Weekend Sport this afternoon.

1839
01:37:56,867 --> 01:37:59,667
Speaker 3: Here we Helpine skier and you're finding some real form

1840
01:37:59,827 --> 01:38:02,947
Speaker 3: at the moment, which is fantastic. I know she's and

1841
01:38:03,067 --> 01:38:04,907
Speaker 3: she mentioned this that I of had a few ups

1842
01:38:04,907 --> 01:38:07,347
Speaker 3: and downs in the last few years and burst onto

1843
01:38:07,387 --> 01:38:10,987
Speaker 3: the scene. Had struggled for a better around COVID. Great

1844
01:38:11,027 --> 01:38:14,347
Speaker 3: to see her back and competing well for New Zealand.

1845
01:38:14,347 --> 01:38:16,987
Speaker 3: And you look a year a here so ahead. Some

1846
01:38:17,107 --> 01:38:21,587
Speaker 3: of those names always to ask you, Nico Portius, Alice Robinson,

1847
01:38:21,827 --> 01:38:24,867
Speaker 3: Luca Harrington's been doing some great stuff as well. And

1848
01:38:24,947 --> 01:38:27,307
Speaker 3: there are probably a couple of others that I'm neglecting

1849
01:38:27,387 --> 01:38:31,907
Speaker 3: to mention. It seems a long time ago since New

1850
01:38:31,987 --> 01:38:36,947
Speaker 3: Zealand had that one solitary winter Olympics middle and you

1851
01:38:36,987 --> 01:38:41,427
Speaker 3: know with Aniles Coburger in the nineties, great success in

1852
01:38:41,467 --> 01:38:45,787
Speaker 3: twenty eighteen, twenty twenty two, better again. What my twenty

1853
01:38:45,827 --> 01:38:49,067
Speaker 3: twenty six bring Milan COURTEENA I think starts around the

1854
01:38:49,107 --> 01:38:53,387
Speaker 3: sixth of February next year. Fascinating to see how our

1855
01:38:53,467 --> 01:38:56,147
Speaker 3: Kiwi snow athletes go. It's a boon time for the sport,

1856
01:38:56,227 --> 01:38:58,827
Speaker 3: that is for sure. Twenty two after two news talks,

1857
01:38:58,867 --> 01:39:01,707
Speaker 3: here be back with more after this Jarnick Sinner, how

1858
01:39:01,747 --> 01:39:05,067
Speaker 3: did he pull it off? Three month banys more than

1859
01:39:05,507 --> 01:39:06,027
Speaker 3: just a game?

1860
01:39:06,427 --> 01:39:10,627
Speaker 1: Weekend Sports with GJ. Gunnos New Zealand's most trusted home

1861
01:39:10,667 --> 01:39:11,427
Speaker 1: builder news.

1862
01:39:11,347 --> 01:39:15,947
Speaker 3: Dogs twenty five after two on News Talk ZIBB. Well,

1863
01:39:16,147 --> 01:39:19,627
Speaker 3: it was a pretty staggering story that came out overnight

1864
01:39:19,747 --> 01:39:23,267
Speaker 3: that you Excenter, the men's world tennis number one, has

1865
01:39:23,387 --> 01:39:30,227
Speaker 3: negotiated a three month ban for doping. Quite remarkable, but

1866
01:39:30,307 --> 01:39:33,427
Speaker 3: he's been able to negotiate the young Excenter winning the

1867
01:39:33,467 --> 01:39:34,907
Speaker 3: Australian Open not so long ago.

1868
01:39:41,267 --> 01:39:42,067
Speaker 8: So no, that's a.

1869
01:39:42,147 --> 01:39:52,507
Speaker 22: Second three sets today, six three, seven, six six.

1870
01:39:52,427 --> 01:39:55,787
Speaker 3: Ray, it's a third page.

1871
01:39:59,227 --> 01:40:02,867
Speaker 12: Quite stop a ban.

1872
01:40:02,907 --> 01:40:06,387
Speaker 3: Accenter accepting an immediate three month doping ban. After so,

1873
01:40:06,467 --> 01:40:09,627
Speaker 3: he and the World Anti Doping Agency reached a sentiment

1874
01:40:09,747 --> 01:40:12,707
Speaker 3: on his period of ineligibility, which means he can return

1875
01:40:12,787 --> 01:40:17,187
Speaker 3: before the French Open in May. The band began a

1876
01:40:17,267 --> 01:40:19,627
Speaker 3: week ago today February ninth, then will end on May

1877
01:40:19,707 --> 01:40:22,707
Speaker 3: the fourth. He can return to training in a few

1878
01:40:22,747 --> 01:40:25,707
Speaker 3: weeks time April thirteen. The French Open main drawl starts

1879
01:40:25,747 --> 01:40:27,987
Speaker 3: May twenty five, so he's not going to miss any

1880
01:40:28,067 --> 01:40:34,747
Speaker 3: Grand Slam action. Originally, before WADA settled with Sinner, it

1881
01:40:34,827 --> 01:40:36,347
Speaker 3: was going to be heard by the Court of Arbitration

1882
01:40:36,507 --> 01:40:38,027
Speaker 3: for Sport in a couple of months time and he

1883
01:40:38,347 --> 01:40:41,467
Speaker 3: could have faced a two year ban. Joining us to

1884
01:40:42,147 --> 01:40:46,547
Speaker 3: discuss tennis commentator for New Zealand tennis player Lee Radovanovitch

1885
01:40:47,187 --> 01:40:50,947
Speaker 3: on the program Afternoon League. What was your reaction when

1886
01:40:50,987 --> 01:40:55,067
Speaker 3: you heard that Jannick Sinner had negotiated a three month ban.

1887
01:40:55,547 --> 01:40:59,267
Speaker 20: Yeah, my reaction was actually around the deal. I thought

1888
01:40:59,307 --> 01:41:01,907
Speaker 20: it was a bit on the way that sort of

1889
01:41:02,267 --> 01:41:04,107
Speaker 20: the statement was written, or the the way that the

1890
01:41:04,147 --> 01:41:06,667
Speaker 20: press has come out, seemed like they had been negoshiating

1891
01:41:06,707 --> 01:41:11,227
Speaker 20: a deal. I would have thought if you've got a

1892
01:41:12,027 --> 01:41:16,107
Speaker 20: positive drug test and you get banned, and they set

1893
01:41:16,107 --> 01:41:18,267
Speaker 20: the rules and you take the punishment. So I was

1894
01:41:18,307 --> 01:41:20,787
Speaker 20: a bit surprised. Not surprised that he got banned, but

1895
01:41:20,827 --> 01:41:22,587
Speaker 20: I was surprised that there was a settlement as if

1896
01:41:22,627 --> 01:41:27,947
Speaker 20: they were negotiating. And then also very convenient that his

1897
01:41:28,147 --> 01:41:32,187
Speaker 20: three band in between the Australian Open and the French Open,

1898
01:41:32,627 --> 01:41:34,147
Speaker 20: so he can still play the French Open.

1899
01:41:34,747 --> 01:41:35,987
Speaker 4: So he was nicky.

1900
01:41:36,067 --> 01:41:39,307
Speaker 3: To me, I've never come across before. It doesn't feel

1901
01:41:39,387 --> 01:41:42,667
Speaker 3: like there should be any bargaining power from the athlete

1902
01:41:42,707 --> 01:41:45,707
Speaker 3: who was doped to be able to try and you

1903
01:41:45,907 --> 01:41:48,227
Speaker 3: boggin down or whittle down their suspension.

1904
01:41:49,387 --> 01:41:51,907
Speaker 20: I completely agree with you. If you've been a naughty

1905
01:41:51,947 --> 01:41:55,907
Speaker 20: boyan you get banned and you caught the band, right,

1906
01:41:55,947 --> 01:41:58,907
Speaker 20: you take like a band. So yeah, I don't like it,

1907
01:41:59,027 --> 01:42:01,467
Speaker 20: to be honest with you, It doesn't really affect them

1908
01:42:01,547 --> 01:42:04,147
Speaker 20: in any way. Sure, he's going to take three months off,

1909
01:42:04,267 --> 01:42:06,827
Speaker 20: He'll just train hard. He'll come back, play a couple

1910
01:42:06,867 --> 01:42:09,227
Speaker 20: of toilets for the French up and then be the

1911
01:42:09,307 --> 01:42:12,107
Speaker 20: favorite or the second favorite for the French Oithen obviously

1912
01:42:12,187 --> 01:42:15,747
Speaker 20: it tarnishes his reputation. But again, and you see this

1913
01:42:15,827 --> 01:42:19,947
Speaker 20: in a million sports. It just makes these antidope agencies

1914
01:42:21,067 --> 01:42:21,867
Speaker 20: look ridiculous.

1915
01:42:22,947 --> 01:42:25,667
Speaker 3: What message doesn't seem to not only I suppose tennis

1916
01:42:25,707 --> 01:42:30,107
Speaker 3: players around the globe, but also any sporting athlete that

1917
01:42:30,307 --> 01:42:32,227
Speaker 3: this is the kind of punishment that been dished down.

1918
01:42:33,387 --> 01:42:38,067
Speaker 20: Well, I think the punishment's fine. Three months. Look, I

1919
01:42:38,147 --> 01:42:41,027
Speaker 20: get I get frustrated with the excuses. You know, we

1920
01:42:41,147 --> 01:42:44,427
Speaker 20: had eager soon Tech last year, which he has number

1921
01:42:44,467 --> 01:42:47,147
Speaker 20: one of the world, taken one month ban for and

1922
01:42:47,307 --> 01:42:50,587
Speaker 20: her excuse was I took a jet Lag pill and

1923
01:42:50,667 --> 01:42:52,427
Speaker 20: the jet Lab pearl was contaminated.

1924
01:42:54,187 --> 01:42:54,387
Speaker 11: Yeah.

1925
01:42:54,507 --> 01:42:54,827
Speaker 4: Whatever.

1926
01:42:55,387 --> 01:43:02,147
Speaker 20: And then with Sinner, apparently his physio had a cut

1927
01:43:02,267 --> 01:43:04,827
Speaker 20: on his hand and was using cream for that, and

1928
01:43:04,907 --> 01:43:08,347
Speaker 20: that somehow got into the sinner's system. And so the

1929
01:43:08,707 --> 01:43:12,267
Speaker 20: authorities are saying that, well, he had no fault here,

1930
01:43:12,787 --> 01:43:17,227
Speaker 20: didn't do it on purpose. That again, is a ridiculous explanation,

1931
01:43:17,427 --> 01:43:17,747
Speaker 20: is it not.

1932
01:43:18,427 --> 01:43:21,267
Speaker 3: Well, the intention to check? Yeah, no, one ha.

1933
01:43:21,227 --> 01:43:23,867
Speaker 20: Really been contaminated by my says I was cut on

1934
01:43:23,947 --> 01:43:26,307
Speaker 20: his hands and had some cream, Like, give me it break.

1935
01:43:26,267 --> 01:43:27,787
Speaker 3: He didn't intend to cheat. But I'm you know, I

1936
01:43:27,867 --> 01:43:31,107
Speaker 3: think back to Sherypover's case and she was taking heart

1937
01:43:31,227 --> 01:43:34,027
Speaker 3: medicine and she was saying she didn't intend to cheat.

1938
01:43:34,067 --> 01:43:36,387
Speaker 3: I'm sure there are any number of athletes that don't

1939
01:43:36,427 --> 01:43:39,387
Speaker 3: intend to cheat, or at least say they don't intend

1940
01:43:39,427 --> 01:43:41,307
Speaker 3: to cheat. But just because you've said it doesn't make

1941
01:43:41,347 --> 01:43:41,707
Speaker 3: it true.

1942
01:43:42,787 --> 01:43:44,267
Speaker 8: Yeah's absolutely.

1943
01:43:44,467 --> 01:43:47,227
Speaker 20: It's just I mean, whether it be tennis or another athlete,

1944
01:43:47,267 --> 01:43:49,787
Speaker 20: these kind of stories they come up with a crazy

1945
01:43:49,827 --> 01:43:51,987
Speaker 20: to neve. I just don't like the fact that seems

1946
01:43:52,027 --> 01:43:53,667
Speaker 20: like they've done a deal, and it's a bit of

1947
01:43:53,667 --> 01:43:56,387
Speaker 20: a sweetheart deal because he doesn't really miss anything major

1948
01:43:56,467 --> 01:43:58,587
Speaker 20: that's going to affect him, right, He's what's what's his

1949
01:43:58,707 --> 01:43:59,707
Speaker 20: goals in tennis?

1950
01:43:59,827 --> 01:43:59,947
Speaker 2: Win?

1951
01:44:00,067 --> 01:44:04,227
Speaker 20: Grand slaps, so really serious, abandoned the longest so miss

1952
01:44:04,267 --> 01:44:04,867
Speaker 20: grand slaps?

1953
01:44:05,587 --> 01:44:08,427
Speaker 3: Your athlete. Sure you were drug tested throughout your career.

1954
01:44:08,547 --> 01:44:10,667
Speaker 3: Surely the onus is on the athlete to know exactly

1955
01:44:10,747 --> 01:44:13,707
Speaker 3: what's going into their body or on their body at

1956
01:44:13,707 --> 01:44:16,427
Speaker 3: any one time because there are so many restrictions and

1957
01:44:16,507 --> 01:44:18,347
Speaker 3: so many rules about what you can and can't take.

1958
01:44:19,107 --> 01:44:19,307
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1959
01:44:19,307 --> 01:44:22,787
Speaker 20: Absolutely, the players for himself, but it's also responsible for

1960
01:44:22,867 --> 01:44:26,587
Speaker 20: its entire team. Remember, these guys individually are a visitors.

1961
01:44:26,707 --> 01:44:30,267
Speaker 20: They employ lots of people for as traveling coaches, you

1962
01:44:30,387 --> 01:44:32,867
Speaker 20: name it. It's one hundred percent of their responsibility to

1963
01:44:33,187 --> 01:44:36,027
Speaker 20: take care of themselves. And it's not like these guys

1964
01:44:36,067 --> 01:44:38,387
Speaker 20: don't get tested. They need to be available one hour

1965
01:44:38,467 --> 01:44:40,387
Speaker 20: a day, three hundred and sixty five days a year

1966
01:44:41,227 --> 01:44:43,947
Speaker 20: to take a drug test are required, So it's not

1967
01:44:44,067 --> 01:44:46,907
Speaker 20: like there's protocols in place. But you know, if you

1968
01:44:46,987 --> 01:44:48,827
Speaker 20: make a mistake, then you pay the price, but you

1969
01:44:48,867 --> 01:44:49,907
Speaker 20: should pay a heavy price.

1970
01:44:50,867 --> 01:44:53,587
Speaker 3: If you were still playing, what would your reaction to

1971
01:44:53,987 --> 01:44:55,987
Speaker 3: playing Yannick Sinner B And what do you think that

1972
01:44:56,107 --> 01:44:58,947
Speaker 3: the locker room reception might be around the globe when

1973
01:44:58,987 --> 01:45:00,587
Speaker 3: he gets back into playing tennis.

1974
01:45:01,787 --> 01:45:03,827
Speaker 20: I think people will just roll their eyes and say, oh, yeah,

1975
01:45:03,867 --> 01:45:06,507
Speaker 20: there's another one of those look I don't think think

1976
01:45:07,867 --> 01:45:11,067
Speaker 20: let's say hypothetically he was taking performance and hardship drugs.

1977
01:45:11,467 --> 01:45:13,907
Speaker 20: I don't think that would give him a massive advantage

1978
01:45:13,947 --> 01:45:16,507
Speaker 20: because if he's doing stuff like that, the other guys

1979
01:45:16,507 --> 01:45:18,987
Speaker 20: are doing it too. Any endurance sport out there where

1980
01:45:18,987 --> 01:45:22,587
Speaker 20: players are getting paid millions of dollars, I think. You

1981
01:45:22,707 --> 01:45:26,427
Speaker 20: know you covered Comwealth Games and Olympic Games. The takers

1982
01:45:26,427 --> 01:45:29,267
Speaker 20: are always ahead of the testers. So in terms of

1983
01:45:29,347 --> 01:45:30,627
Speaker 20: the players in the locker room.

1984
01:45:30,507 --> 01:45:32,507
Speaker 10: I think they just move on and it's just part

1985
01:45:32,547 --> 01:45:32,947
Speaker 10: of the deal.

1986
01:45:33,907 --> 01:45:35,907
Speaker 3: Do you think there'll be a black mark from a

1987
01:45:36,667 --> 01:45:40,307
Speaker 3: worldwide perspective on Centers as his career goes forward, a

1988
01:45:40,347 --> 01:45:43,027
Speaker 3: bit of a black mark on whatever legacy leaves, or

1989
01:45:43,107 --> 01:45:45,147
Speaker 3: will it be sort of forgotten in six months time?

1990
01:45:46,307 --> 01:45:49,067
Speaker 20: Toler forgotten in six months time? Would be my thought

1991
01:45:49,147 --> 01:45:50,587
Speaker 20: that there'll be in the news for the next couple

1992
01:45:50,627 --> 01:45:53,787
Speaker 20: of days and then he'll come back and he'll start

1993
01:45:53,827 --> 01:45:56,187
Speaker 20: winning again and things will just go back to normal,

1994
01:45:56,227 --> 01:45:58,027
Speaker 20: would be my strong opinion on that one.

1995
01:45:58,227 --> 01:46:00,587
Speaker 3: Leave rid Avane, it's with us on newstalk Z. He's

1996
01:46:00,627 --> 01:46:03,867
Speaker 3: back eligible. Obviously, as you touched on early, he finishes

1997
01:46:03,907 --> 01:46:06,827
Speaker 3: and wins the Australian Open, back for the French and

1998
01:46:06,907 --> 01:46:09,107
Speaker 3: time effect. I think the first tournament eligible he's back

1999
01:46:09,147 --> 01:46:11,907
Speaker 3: for is an event in his time country in Rome.

2000
01:46:12,027 --> 01:46:14,827
Speaker 3: So really he's not missing too much of the big

2001
01:46:14,867 --> 01:46:16,147
Speaker 3: stuff in tennis at the moment.

2002
01:46:16,027 --> 01:46:16,227
Speaker 13: Is he.

2003
01:46:17,147 --> 01:46:17,587
Speaker 4: No, he's not.

2004
01:46:18,027 --> 01:46:19,907
Speaker 20: As I said earlier, his goal in tennis will be

2005
01:46:20,027 --> 01:46:22,427
Speaker 20: to be Thember one and win Grand Slamp. So he'll

2006
01:46:22,467 --> 01:46:24,867
Speaker 20: go away, he'll train, he'll be in lieable shape for

2007
01:46:24,907 --> 01:46:26,627
Speaker 20: the next three months. It might even be good for

2008
01:46:26,747 --> 01:46:29,067
Speaker 20: him to take a break and work on whatever it

2009
01:46:29,187 --> 01:46:30,547
Speaker 20: is he wants to work on in his game.

2010
01:46:31,067 --> 01:46:32,747
Speaker 8: And you know you would, you.

2011
01:46:32,747 --> 01:46:35,187
Speaker 20: Could install him right now as a favorite for the

2012
01:46:35,227 --> 01:46:36,147
Speaker 20: French afplet after his.

2013
01:46:36,227 --> 01:46:40,027
Speaker 3: Band and just finally Lee. I guess the precedent Do

2014
01:46:40,107 --> 01:46:41,827
Speaker 3: you think there's been a precedent said here that you

2015
01:46:41,867 --> 01:46:43,947
Speaker 3: can negotiate with you know, whether it's just a bit

2016
01:46:43,947 --> 01:46:47,067
Speaker 3: of hang preme or whatever. It might be that if

2017
01:46:47,107 --> 01:46:50,187
Speaker 3: you were done for a positive test, then WADA is

2018
01:46:50,267 --> 01:46:52,187
Speaker 3: willing to bargain with some athletes.

2019
01:46:52,707 --> 01:46:55,827
Speaker 20: Well absolutely, I mean every Segue athlete if they are

2020
01:46:55,907 --> 01:46:57,587
Speaker 20: in trouble, I'm going to try to do that now. Right,

2021
01:46:58,347 --> 01:47:00,467
Speaker 20: Maybe he's got a bit more bargaining power because he's

2022
01:47:00,867 --> 01:47:03,147
Speaker 20: number one in the world and tennis doesn't want to

2023
01:47:03,187 --> 01:47:03,547
Speaker 20: look bad.

2024
01:47:03,627 --> 01:47:04,947
Speaker 8: And perhaps I've had a.

2025
01:47:06,427 --> 01:47:09,507
Speaker 20: Tree of kind of sleeping things under the road, so

2026
01:47:10,427 --> 01:47:12,987
Speaker 20: you know with past players. But yeah, if you're a

2027
01:47:13,107 --> 01:47:15,667
Speaker 20: top class athlete around the world and any sport, you're

2028
01:47:15,707 --> 01:47:17,067
Speaker 20: gonna trying to negotiate immediately.

2029
01:47:18,667 --> 01:47:20,787
Speaker 3: It's a fascinating time in the world of tennis and

2030
01:47:20,827 --> 01:47:23,467
Speaker 3: the world of doping. Lee rad Avandovitch, thanks for your

2031
01:47:23,507 --> 01:47:25,867
Speaker 3: time with us here on News Talk ZEBB this afternoon.

2032
01:47:25,947 --> 01:47:29,627
Speaker 3: Nice to catch up. Okay, thanksfully appreciate your time with

2033
01:47:29,747 --> 01:47:31,787
Speaker 3: us here on News Talk zb It is a twenty

2034
01:47:31,827 --> 01:47:34,747
Speaker 3: six away from three. I think found it staggering when

2035
01:47:34,787 --> 01:47:39,827
Speaker 3: I saw that last night. I'm not sure how Yarnick

2036
01:47:39,867 --> 01:47:45,147
Speaker 3: Sinner has had any leverage in that deal. Take it

2037
01:47:45,187 --> 01:47:48,987
Speaker 3: to the Court of Arbitration for sport, go through that process.

2038
01:47:51,027 --> 01:47:53,427
Speaker 3: At what point did he go, look, I don't want

2039
01:47:53,427 --> 01:47:56,747
Speaker 3: to go to cass I'll do six months. Sorry, I'll

2040
01:47:56,787 --> 01:48:02,227
Speaker 3: do one month. Baan did what I say six and

2041
01:48:02,347 --> 01:48:03,587
Speaker 3: they met in the middle and said three.

2042
01:48:06,587 --> 01:48:07,267
Speaker 7: Was he reading.

2043
01:48:08,547 --> 01:48:10,307
Speaker 3: Donald Trump's book The Out of the Deal or something

2044
01:48:10,307 --> 01:48:14,867
Speaker 3: He's pulled off an absolute swindle? Here Janickson, I like

2045
01:48:14,947 --> 01:48:19,307
Speaker 3: him as a player, can't condone this deal. Interesting to

2046
01:48:19,347 --> 01:48:23,947
Speaker 3: see some of the reaction as well from players around

2047
01:48:23,987 --> 01:48:27,147
Speaker 3: the globe. You've heard Tim Henman in our news bulletins

2048
01:48:27,187 --> 01:48:32,227
Speaker 3: today Nick Krios, the Aussie former women and finalist. He

2049
01:48:32,267 --> 01:48:34,947
Speaker 3: had previously said that Centner and Egis film Tech's open

2050
01:48:34,987 --> 01:48:40,907
Speaker 3: cases were disgusting for the sport. He said, obviously Senter's

2051
01:48:40,907 --> 01:48:42,627
Speaker 3: team have done everything in their power to just go

2052
01:48:42,787 --> 01:48:45,707
Speaker 3: ahead and take a three month ban, no titles lost,

2053
01:48:45,787 --> 01:48:49,627
Speaker 3: no prize money lost, sad day for tennis, venis and

2054
01:48:49,747 --> 01:48:57,827
Speaker 3: tennis does not exist. Quite remarkable. Stan Vavrinka also had

2055
01:48:58,427 --> 01:49:02,667
Speaker 3: a crack, saying I don't believe in a clean sport anymore.

2056
01:49:06,347 --> 01:49:09,387
Speaker 3: Interesting to see what kind of reaction Janick Sinner will

2057
01:49:09,387 --> 01:49:12,347
Speaker 3: get when he returns to the court, as it touched

2058
01:49:12,387 --> 01:49:15,387
Speaker 3: on their chatting to lead he will be eligible again

2059
01:49:15,467 --> 01:49:19,387
Speaker 3: for his home tournament, the Italian Open, from May the seventh.

2060
01:49:19,467 --> 01:49:24,547
Speaker 3: This seems like Janick Sinner has just dictated to the

2061
01:49:24,587 --> 01:49:28,067
Speaker 3: World Antidopac agency what he is prepared to serve, not

2062
01:49:28,187 --> 01:49:32,347
Speaker 3: the other way around, and just makes why to come

2063
01:49:32,427 --> 01:49:40,827
Speaker 3: across look absolutely weak. Fascinating precedent for World Sport because

2064
01:49:40,867 --> 01:49:44,507
Speaker 3: the next time someone has caught with something that isn't

2065
01:49:44,787 --> 01:49:51,787
Speaker 3: clearly obvious in terms of a performance enhancing drug, if

2066
01:49:51,867 --> 01:49:57,107
Speaker 3: you can possibly spin it, they will be. They'll be

2067
01:49:57,147 --> 01:49:59,507
Speaker 3: saying I didn't mean to. Oh, Janick Sinner said the

2068
01:49:59,507 --> 01:50:08,667
Speaker 3: same thing. Very very bizarre from all concerned. Twenty four

2069
01:50:08,707 --> 01:50:12,587
Speaker 3: away from three Newstalk ZIB Daytona five hundred.

2070
01:50:13,347 --> 01:50:18,267
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2071
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2072
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2073
01:50:23,627 --> 01:50:26,587
Speaker 3: It is coming up twenty away from three on Newstalk ZIB.

2074
01:50:26,827 --> 01:50:30,867
Speaker 3: You'll remember this from Shane van Gisbergen. Sheen Evan gisberg

2075
01:50:31,667 --> 01:50:32,707
Speaker 3: has been perfect.

2076
01:50:33,347 --> 01:50:36,987
Speaker 4: He has navigated the streets of Chicago to perfection.

2077
01:50:37,467 --> 01:50:41,307
Speaker 12: The final time under the front stretch, he comes to

2078
01:50:41,387 --> 01:50:42,507
Speaker 12: the checkered flag.

2079
01:50:42,547 --> 01:50:49,987
Speaker 3: He's won the very foot street. Yes in d Shane

2080
01:50:50,067 --> 01:50:54,027
Speaker 3: van Gisbergen. There with that win in Chicago and NASCAR

2081
01:50:54,307 --> 01:50:56,467
Speaker 3: after that switch a couple of years ago, he's had

2082
01:50:56,507 --> 01:51:01,027
Speaker 3: a season in Exfinity and tomorrow morning in the showpiece

2083
01:51:01,347 --> 01:51:04,587
Speaker 3: of NASCAR, the Daytona five hundred, one of the biggest

2084
01:51:04,587 --> 01:51:07,667
Speaker 3: events in Wild Motorsport Shane v gisburg And will be

2085
01:51:07,787 --> 01:51:10,347
Speaker 3: the and on the start line, joining US state side

2086
01:51:10,387 --> 01:51:14,627
Speaker 3: to discussed as NBC Motorsport journalist Nate Ryan Nate thinks,

2087
01:51:14,667 --> 01:51:16,907
Speaker 3: so joining us on News Talk ZB this afternoon.

2088
01:51:16,987 --> 01:51:19,467
Speaker 15: Oh, it's a pleasure. Thanks for having me well es VG.

2089
01:51:19,707 --> 01:51:21,867
Speaker 3: Shane van gusburg And as we know him down here

2090
01:51:22,067 --> 01:51:25,187
Speaker 3: in New Zealand to have his day both the Daytona

2091
01:51:25,427 --> 01:51:29,187
Speaker 3: five hundred and really a matter of hours. Look, I

2092
01:51:29,227 --> 01:51:31,587
Speaker 3: guess the countdown's on for Shane van Gisbergen. From a

2093
01:51:31,667 --> 01:51:35,187
Speaker 3: local perspective. What are you expecting from Shane van Gisbergen

2094
01:51:35,227 --> 01:51:37,547
Speaker 3: and how different will this be for him as he

2095
01:51:37,587 --> 01:51:39,987
Speaker 3: gets underway in the early hours of Monday morning out time.

2096
01:51:40,907 --> 01:51:43,187
Speaker 23: It's gonna be extremely different from what he's used to

2097
01:51:43,387 --> 01:51:45,387
Speaker 23: in the Supercar Series and what you guys have seen

2098
01:51:45,467 --> 01:51:48,027
Speaker 23: down under and 'sy one in Australia. I mean, he's

2099
01:51:48,067 --> 01:51:51,467
Speaker 23: gonna be on this oval and it's not anything like

2100
01:51:51,587 --> 01:51:55,387
Speaker 23: he's ever experienced. It seems rather simplistic because it's essentially

2101
01:51:55,507 --> 01:52:00,067
Speaker 23: just making four turns a lap and you know, it's

2102
01:52:00,107 --> 01:52:02,747
Speaker 23: not like road courses or street courses where there's elevation

2103
01:52:02,947 --> 01:52:08,467
Speaker 23: changes and shifting and turns. This is it seems simple,

2104
01:52:08,587 --> 01:52:11,907
Speaker 23: like I said, but it's a very dynamic process. And

2105
01:52:12,027 --> 01:52:14,707
Speaker 23: I think that's what SPG has struggled with so far,

2106
01:52:15,267 --> 01:52:17,747
Speaker 23: is that he's trying to learn exactly where to put

2107
01:52:17,787 --> 01:52:20,667
Speaker 23: his car on the track on every lap. And again,

2108
01:52:20,747 --> 01:52:22,547
Speaker 23: it seems reductive. It seems like it should just be

2109
01:52:22,587 --> 01:52:25,227
Speaker 23: as simple as just turning left, But there's actually a

2110
01:52:25,267 --> 01:52:27,267
Speaker 23: lot more to it. There's a lot of nuances to it,

2111
01:52:27,467 --> 01:52:29,667
Speaker 23: and I think that's what he'll be figuring out in

2112
01:52:29,787 --> 01:52:31,547
Speaker 23: the Daytona five hundred, the biggest race of the year.

2113
01:52:31,907 --> 01:52:34,987
Speaker 3: Has expinity a year in that last year equipped him

2114
01:52:35,107 --> 01:52:37,067
Speaker 3: at all for what to speak tomorrow.

2115
01:52:38,387 --> 01:52:41,027
Speaker 23: It certainly helped. You know, he didn't have any oval

2116
01:52:41,067 --> 01:52:44,387
Speaker 23: experience before he got to NASCAR. He made his first

2117
01:52:44,427 --> 01:52:47,827
Speaker 23: Oval start less than two years ago in the Truck Series,

2118
01:52:47,867 --> 01:52:50,067
Speaker 23: and like you said, then, he had a year in Exfinity.

2119
01:52:50,147 --> 01:52:53,267
Speaker 23: He also did some Cup races as well, so he

2120
01:52:53,347 --> 01:52:56,307
Speaker 23: doesn't come into this cold. But the thing that's different

2121
01:52:56,547 --> 01:52:58,987
Speaker 23: about the Daytona five hundred is this is the Cup

2122
01:52:59,067 --> 01:53:02,707
Speaker 23: Series and these are the very best drivers in America

2123
01:53:02,947 --> 01:53:06,747
Speaker 23: in NASCAR, and they have just oodles of ex experience

2124
01:53:06,907 --> 01:53:09,627
Speaker 23: compared to SPG on how to race these ovals, Like

2125
01:53:09,707 --> 01:53:12,027
Speaker 23: I was talking about, and it's not just about the

2126
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Speaker 23: fact that this is an oval, it's a very particular

2127
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Speaker 23: specialized type of racing.

2128
01:53:18,187 --> 01:53:19,427
Speaker 15: It's super speedway racing.

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Speaker 23: The horsepower is choked down on all of these cars,

2130
01:53:22,427 --> 01:53:25,307
Speaker 23: so they run in really tight packs and it's very

2131
01:53:25,467 --> 01:53:27,747
Speaker 23: very easy to make a mistake that can take you

2132
01:53:27,907 --> 01:53:30,867
Speaker 23: from the lead to twentieth in a half a lap.

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01:53:31,027 --> 01:53:32,547
Speaker 23: And it's also very easy to make a mistake to

2134
01:53:32,547 --> 01:53:35,907
Speaker 23: make a bobble that can trigger a huge multi car wreck.

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01:53:36,667 --> 01:53:40,067
Speaker 23: And unfortunately spg's already been in a wreck this week

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Speaker 23: during the qualifying race Thursday, so hopefully that doesn't happen Sunday,

2137
01:53:43,507 --> 01:53:46,627
Speaker 23: but it's very difficult to avoid. We're sure to see

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01:53:46,667 --> 01:53:49,707
Speaker 23: big crashes at the daytime of five hundred usually forty

2139
01:53:49,747 --> 01:53:51,827
Speaker 23: one car field. I would not surprise me at all

2140
01:53:51,827 --> 01:53:56,187
Speaker 23: if only fifteen twenty cars finish, and hopefully Shane Vegas

2141
01:53:56,227 --> 01:53:56,867
Speaker 23: Berging is one of them.

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Speaker 3: I sort of quite for him saying he had to

2143
01:53:58,747 --> 01:54:01,027
Speaker 3: be prepared to wreck his car, and who's quite the

2144
01:54:01,147 --> 01:54:04,187
Speaker 3: mindset shift from what he's been used to in Super guys.

2145
01:54:04,227 --> 01:54:05,507
Speaker 3: How how tricky is that for him?

2146
01:54:06,987 --> 01:54:10,467
Speaker 23: You know, Jeff Burton, who's a NASCAR an NBC analyst

2147
01:54:10,707 --> 01:54:14,547
Speaker 23: and raced in NASCAR for twenty plus years, won all

2148
01:54:14,627 --> 01:54:18,347
Speaker 23: the big races. He said about racing at Daytona, is

2149
01:54:18,507 --> 01:54:20,787
Speaker 23: that what's really hard about it is you don't go

2150
01:54:20,867 --> 01:54:24,587
Speaker 23: into many races expecting to wreck, and like I said,

2151
01:54:24,787 --> 01:54:27,307
Speaker 23: more than half the field probably is going to wreck

2152
01:54:27,347 --> 01:54:30,547
Speaker 23: in the Daytona five hundred. So it's really difficult I

2153
01:54:30,587 --> 01:54:33,787
Speaker 23: think for drivers to adjust to that mindset and to

2154
01:54:33,987 --> 01:54:37,347
Speaker 23: just understand that there is a better than fifty to

2155
01:54:37,347 --> 01:54:39,187
Speaker 23: fifty chants your car is gonna end up in the

2156
01:54:39,227 --> 01:54:43,427
Speaker 23: wall here, and you can't really hold back because of that.

2157
01:54:43,667 --> 01:54:45,267
Speaker 23: I think you have to kind of rewire your brain

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01:54:45,307 --> 01:54:48,667
Speaker 23: a little bit and be cautious when you're in the

2159
01:54:48,787 --> 01:54:50,627
Speaker 23: draft and you're in the middle of all these cars

2160
01:54:50,667 --> 01:54:52,947
Speaker 23: that are inches apart at two hundred miles an hour.

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01:54:53,427 --> 01:54:56,587
Speaker 23: But you also have to take risks, and it's a

2162
01:54:56,707 --> 01:54:59,307
Speaker 23: really fine balance, and that's why it's so difficult for

2163
01:54:59,787 --> 01:55:02,587
Speaker 23: someone who has inexperienced as SPG on the ovals. So

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01:55:03,187 --> 01:55:04,907
Speaker 23: I get what he's saying when he says that you

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01:55:05,067 --> 01:55:07,307
Speaker 23: really have to be ready to to kind of totally

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01:55:07,347 --> 01:55:09,947
Speaker 23: twist your mindset around from being a three time Supercars champion.

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01:55:10,107 --> 01:55:12,307
Speaker 3: So what does a good result for him look like tomorrow?

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01:55:12,387 --> 01:55:14,227
Speaker 3: Is it as simple as you see it? Finishing the Rice?

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01:55:15,347 --> 01:55:17,947
Speaker 23: I think top ten would be an excellent result for him,

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Speaker 23: you know, Finishing I think, like you said, would be great.

2171
01:55:21,587 --> 01:55:24,067
Speaker 23: But if he's still on the track with like fifteen

2172
01:55:24,107 --> 01:55:26,387
Speaker 23: to twenty laps to go, he's probably gonna have a

2173
01:55:26,507 --> 01:55:29,907
Speaker 23: chance to finish in the top fifteen, presuming he's still

2174
01:55:29,947 --> 01:55:32,547
Speaker 23: in the lead lap. Because again, this is a real

2175
01:55:33,027 --> 01:55:37,267
Speaker 23: strange type of racing where you know, we've seen flukey

2176
01:55:37,347 --> 01:55:41,347
Speaker 23: winners at the Daytona five hundred, where it doesn't always

2177
01:55:41,387 --> 01:55:45,067
Speaker 23: favor the most experienced drivers, even though it's really hard,

2178
01:55:45,467 --> 01:55:47,347
Speaker 23: I think as a rookie to come in here and

2179
01:55:47,467 --> 01:55:50,307
Speaker 23: just win. But if you manage to sort of it's

2180
01:55:50,307 --> 01:55:52,387
Speaker 23: like a game of survivor, if you manage to like

2181
01:55:52,547 --> 01:55:55,667
Speaker 23: just stay out there and avoid the big crashes, and

2182
01:55:55,787 --> 01:55:58,467
Speaker 23: you're in the mix with like twenty to go, and

2183
01:55:58,827 --> 01:56:00,707
Speaker 23: you know, at that point SPG will had more than

2184
01:56:00,787 --> 01:56:02,947
Speaker 23: four hundred miles of experience on the high banks of

2185
01:56:02,947 --> 01:56:05,427
Speaker 23: the deterroran national Speedway. It's not all of the realm

2186
01:56:05,467 --> 01:56:08,027
Speaker 23: with possibility that he could finish top ten or even

2187
01:56:08,227 --> 01:56:08,947
Speaker 23: you know, top five.

2188
01:56:09,587 --> 01:56:12,187
Speaker 3: Another plan and that's right, Another drive a debuting tomorrow

2189
01:56:12,227 --> 01:56:14,067
Speaker 3: who we're familiar with down here from from years of

2190
01:56:14,107 --> 01:56:18,107
Speaker 3: watching IndyCar with Scott Dixon, Scott McLaughlin, Helio Kestronivi's to

2191
01:56:18,147 --> 01:56:21,067
Speaker 3: make his debut as well, which is pretty specially. He's

2192
01:56:21,067 --> 01:56:23,147
Speaker 3: won the Indy five hundred, of course four times, so

2193
01:56:23,547 --> 01:56:26,947
Speaker 3: to have a racer of his caliber crossing over, what's

2194
01:56:26,987 --> 01:56:30,027
Speaker 3: the reception like the Helio Kesterronev is making his Daytona

2195
01:56:30,067 --> 01:56:30,907
Speaker 3: five hundred debut.

2196
01:56:31,707 --> 01:56:33,107
Speaker 15: I think the reception has been great.

2197
01:56:33,147 --> 01:56:37,347
Speaker 23: And NASCAR actually created a special exemption for Leo Castor

2198
01:56:37,427 --> 01:56:38,627
Speaker 23: and Evs so he could make this race.

2199
01:56:38,667 --> 01:56:41,227
Speaker 15: He didn't make the race actually on speed or through

2200
01:56:41,267 --> 01:56:41,667
Speaker 15: the race.

2201
01:56:42,227 --> 01:56:45,467
Speaker 23: He had used this special provisional that NASCAR created for

2202
01:56:45,907 --> 01:56:48,227
Speaker 23: in this case a four time Indy five hundred winners

2203
01:56:48,307 --> 01:56:51,467
Speaker 23: for any world class driver in Leo Castro and Nevs.

2204
01:56:51,507 --> 01:56:54,627
Speaker 23: Certainly is that. But unfortunately, like Eleo's had a really

2205
01:56:54,707 --> 01:56:58,227
Speaker 23: tough week. This is his NASCAR debut. He's never rased

2206
01:56:58,587 --> 01:57:01,987
Speaker 23: in stock cars at this level, at this Speedway, and

2207
01:57:02,227 --> 01:57:05,187
Speaker 23: he's raised a couple of support races, he's raced in

2208
01:57:05,267 --> 01:57:07,507
Speaker 23: the qualifying race, and he's crashed in all of them,

2209
01:57:07,707 --> 01:57:10,307
Speaker 23: and he had a really bad Riocky mistake in the

2210
01:57:10,387 --> 01:57:14,027
Speaker 23: qualifying race Thursday. But all that being said, he did

2211
01:57:14,147 --> 01:57:17,067
Speaker 23: manage to finish fifth despite being in one of the

2212
01:57:17,107 --> 01:57:20,427
Speaker 23: early crashes in the support race the day before the

2213
01:57:20,947 --> 01:57:21,867
Speaker 23: Daytona five hundred.

2214
01:57:21,987 --> 01:57:26,027
Speaker 15: So again, I think like he's got a shot if

2215
01:57:26,067 --> 01:57:26,827
Speaker 15: he's there at the end.

2216
01:57:26,987 --> 01:57:29,667
Speaker 23: But regardless to your point, the fact that he's even

2217
01:57:29,747 --> 01:57:32,547
Speaker 23: in this race certainly raises the profile for NASCAR, just

2218
01:57:32,627 --> 01:57:34,827
Speaker 23: like SPG being in the race. I mean, having two

2219
01:57:34,907 --> 01:57:38,147
Speaker 23: world class drivers like SPG and Lio Castro Nevez in

2220
01:57:38,227 --> 01:57:40,387
Speaker 23: the biggest race of the NASCAR season, it's a big

2221
01:57:40,427 --> 01:57:41,067
Speaker 23: win for NASCAR.

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01:57:41,387 --> 01:57:43,787
Speaker 3: Some of our listeners will know the name Daytona five hundred,

2223
01:57:43,827 --> 01:57:45,307
Speaker 3: may not be as familiar with it, but I was

2224
01:57:45,347 --> 01:57:47,907
Speaker 3: watching the Fox Sports coverage of the Super Bowl last

2225
01:57:47,947 --> 01:57:51,107
Speaker 3: week though were advertising it heavily. It's really is one

2226
01:57:51,107 --> 01:57:53,267
Speaker 3: of the jewels in the crown of American motus we

2227
01:57:53,307 --> 01:57:54,307
Speaker 3: world modusport, isn't it.

2228
01:57:55,227 --> 01:57:57,347
Speaker 15: Yeah, I mean this is the race every NASCAR driver

2229
01:57:57,547 --> 01:57:58,027
Speaker 15: wants to win.

2230
01:57:58,107 --> 01:58:00,587
Speaker 23: It's just like the Indianapolis five hundred, which, as you

2231
01:58:00,627 --> 01:58:03,067
Speaker 23: probably know, Scott mcgwonquin was on the pole for that

2232
01:58:03,267 --> 01:58:05,827
Speaker 23: race last year, and I mean just winning the poll

2233
01:58:05,907 --> 01:58:08,387
Speaker 23: for that race attracted a ton of attention. But when

2234
01:58:08,427 --> 01:58:10,547
Speaker 23: you win the Indy five hundred, when you win the

2235
01:58:10,627 --> 01:58:14,147
Speaker 23: Daytona five hundred, that's essentially how you're introduced for the

2236
01:58:14,227 --> 01:58:16,947
Speaker 23: rest of your career as an American race car driver.

2237
01:58:17,107 --> 01:58:21,707
Speaker 15: You're you're you know, You're Daytona five hundred winner, Austin Syndric.

2238
01:58:21,867 --> 01:58:23,667
Speaker 23: Like, no matter what Austin Cindric does for the rest

2239
01:58:23,707 --> 01:58:26,547
Speaker 23: of his career, he's going to be first introduced as

2240
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Speaker 23: a Daytona five hundred winner.

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01:58:27,907 --> 01:58:29,787
Speaker 15: So, yeah, this is the big one. This is the

2242
01:58:29,827 --> 01:58:31,267
Speaker 15: crown jewel of the NASCAR season.

2243
01:58:31,467 --> 01:58:33,427
Speaker 23: It kicks off their year, which is a little bit

2244
01:58:33,467 --> 01:58:36,587
Speaker 23: weird to have the Quasi super Bowl be the season opener,

2245
01:58:36,667 --> 01:58:39,347
Speaker 23: but that's the way NASCAR does it. So be a

2246
01:58:39,427 --> 01:58:42,667
Speaker 23: ton of eyeballs at dayton National Speedway watching.

2247
01:58:42,427 --> 01:58:44,467
Speaker 3: What happens on the Daytona five hundred and just finally

2248
01:58:44,547 --> 01:58:46,387
Speaker 3: that's so grateful for good time. Just going back to

2249
01:58:46,427 --> 01:58:48,987
Speaker 3: shine Van Gisberg. In terms of the year, a heats

2250
01:58:49,947 --> 01:58:52,427
Speaker 3: a big year again obviously for him. What will success

2251
01:58:52,507 --> 01:58:55,667
Speaker 3: look like for Shane Van Gisberg in this year, Well, it's.

2252
01:58:55,667 --> 01:58:58,027
Speaker 23: Really going to be an interesting year for SPG because,

2253
01:58:58,147 --> 01:59:00,067
Speaker 23: like I mentioned, he's really, I.

2254
01:59:00,067 --> 01:59:02,107
Speaker 15: Think going to struggle to get acclimated on the ovals.

2255
01:59:02,147 --> 01:59:03,827
Speaker 15: I think winning on the ovals is going to be

2256
01:59:03,907 --> 01:59:04,747
Speaker 15: extremely difficult.

2257
01:59:05,187 --> 01:59:08,747
Speaker 23: But NASCAR has the unique playoff system where if you

2258
01:59:08,867 --> 01:59:12,307
Speaker 23: win a race, you qualify for their ten race dass

2259
01:59:12,307 --> 01:59:14,467
Speaker 23: to the championship, which are called the playoffs at the

2260
01:59:14,507 --> 01:59:15,307
Speaker 23: end of season.

2261
01:59:15,627 --> 01:59:18,667
Speaker 15: And there are six or seven street race and.

2262
01:59:18,827 --> 01:59:22,267
Speaker 23: Road course races on the Cup Series season, and in

2263
01:59:22,467 --> 01:59:24,987
Speaker 23: every one of those races, SPG is going to be

2264
01:59:25,027 --> 01:59:29,147
Speaker 23: a favorite to win, especially at Chicago, where as you know,

2265
01:59:29,347 --> 01:59:32,427
Speaker 23: he won in his first time ever in NASCAR in

2266
01:59:32,507 --> 01:59:34,627
Speaker 23: twenty twenty three. He probably would have won the race

2267
01:59:34,707 --> 01:59:37,227
Speaker 23: last year if you would have been wrecked. So SBG

2268
01:59:37,427 --> 01:59:40,267
Speaker 23: has a really good chance as a rookie of running

2269
01:59:40,347 --> 01:59:43,747
Speaker 23: for a championship in NASCAR's premier series because he's probably

2270
01:59:43,787 --> 01:59:46,267
Speaker 23: going to qualify the playoffs by getting a win either

2271
01:59:46,267 --> 01:59:48,667
Speaker 23: a Chicago or one of those road courses. So it's

2272
01:59:48,707 --> 01:59:50,547
Speaker 23: going to be a learning year for SPG, but it

2273
01:59:50,627 --> 01:59:52,827
Speaker 23: could be a very successful year for them as well well.

2274
01:59:52,907 --> 01:59:55,027
Speaker 3: Plenty a find of white for the year ahead. But

2275
01:59:55,147 --> 01:59:58,347
Speaker 3: Daytona five hundred tomorrow, Enjoy the racing night, Ryan, Thanks

2276
01:59:58,387 --> 02:00:00,107
Speaker 3: so much of your time here on NEU stoog Zebe.

2277
02:00:01,067 --> 02:00:01,987
Speaker 15: Thanks so much for having me.

2278
02:00:02,427 --> 02:00:05,347
Speaker 3: That is night Ryan, NBC Noticeabale journalists joining the program.

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Speaker 3: U se Daytona five hundred early tomorrow morning. I think

2280
02:00:09,267 --> 02:00:13,027
Speaker 3: I saw about seven thirty am, if memory serves for it,

2281
02:00:13,067 --> 02:00:15,627
Speaker 3: I think they brought Ford half an hour an hour.

2282
02:00:16,307 --> 02:00:18,387
Speaker 3: We'll double check that and come back with an official

2283
02:00:18,467 --> 02:00:21,667
Speaker 3: time for you after the break here on news Talk

2284
02:00:21,747 --> 02:00:23,267
Speaker 3: zeber I did say they make a change because there's

2285
02:00:23,747 --> 02:00:27,227
Speaker 3: storms on the way or something like that. So seven

2286
02:00:27,387 --> 02:00:29,667
Speaker 3: thirty I've got the night of approval from producer Andy

2287
02:00:29,707 --> 02:00:33,387
Speaker 3: So seven thirty tomorrow morning Shane van Gisberg and one

2288
02:00:33,427 --> 02:00:36,547
Speaker 3: of motorsports biggest events, the Daytona five hundred. Very cool

2289
02:00:36,587 --> 02:00:38,667
Speaker 3: to see here we are on the start line for

2290
02:00:38,947 --> 02:00:41,707
Speaker 3: that event. Text message on the opening before we take

2291
02:00:41,787 --> 02:00:45,227
Speaker 3: a break. This Jarnicks in the case is all very

2292
02:00:45,307 --> 02:00:48,427
Speaker 3: reminiscent of the British athlete Olympic Christie's adverse drugs test

2293
02:00:48,507 --> 02:00:53,547
Speaker 3: finding the nineteen eighty eight Sole Olympics. The committee gave

2294
02:00:53,587 --> 02:00:55,507
Speaker 3: him the benefit of the data. After Christi Klan the

2295
02:00:55,547 --> 02:01:00,507
Speaker 3: Culprit on drinking gin sing tea storm in a tea cup.

2296
02:01:01,387 --> 02:01:03,987
Speaker 3: Very good, Take a break, come back, wrap up the

2297
02:01:04,027 --> 02:01:06,667
Speaker 3: show after this, it is ten away from three Talk.

2298
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Speaker 1: Zib the scoop from the track field now the court

2299
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Speaker 1: on your home of thoughts Weekend Sport if you talk.

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Speaker 3: It is seven away from three on News Talk ZIBB.

2301
02:01:20,067 --> 02:01:24,907
Speaker 3: Closing stages of Weekend Sport this afternoon and great to

2302
02:01:24,987 --> 02:01:28,827
Speaker 3: have your company throughout the last couple of weekends. Piney

2303
02:01:28,947 --> 02:01:32,587
Speaker 3: back with you for Sports Talk tomorrow nights. I'm sure

2304
02:01:32,867 --> 02:01:36,067
Speaker 3: have plenty of reflections on the round that's been in

2305
02:01:36,227 --> 02:01:39,267
Speaker 3: Super Rugby. Just thinking about I can't think of a

2306
02:01:39,347 --> 02:01:44,027
Speaker 3: better opening weekend to Super Rugby than there has been

2307
02:01:44,947 --> 02:01:47,387
Speaker 3: as a rugby commentator myself. That makes me quite excited.

2308
02:01:49,147 --> 02:01:54,307
Speaker 3: Hopefully that's the standard of the competition going forward for

2309
02:01:54,427 --> 02:01:58,147
Speaker 3: season twenty twenty five. You'd hate to back next weekend

2310
02:01:58,227 --> 02:02:01,027
Speaker 3: and have some blowouts, but if the standard is going

2311
02:02:01,107 --> 02:02:03,187
Speaker 3: to be equal that it's going to be very very

2312
02:02:03,227 --> 02:02:05,827
Speaker 3: hard to pick each weekend. It's going to get more

2313
02:02:05,827 --> 02:02:08,987
Speaker 3: people back interested in super Rugby. I think ultimately that

2314
02:02:09,187 --> 02:02:13,707
Speaker 3: is a good thing for the competition. Another round of

2315
02:02:13,747 --> 02:02:15,747
Speaker 3: course next weekend. They are those games I know. A

2316
02:02:15,827 --> 02:02:19,067
Speaker 3: text message said next week looking just as great, certainly

2317
02:02:19,107 --> 02:02:22,147
Speaker 3: as more Derby's next weekend Chiefs and Crusaders to kick

2318
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Speaker 3: things off for Friday night reads more out of pacificat

2319
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Speaker 3: sun Corp. Later that evening Hurricanes drawer on Saturday afternoon,

2320
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Speaker 3: Ireland Is Blues to follow that Brumbies and a Western

2321
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Speaker 3: Force to close out the round. Very exciting Super Rugby

2322
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Speaker 3: Pacific twenty twenty five. Looking forward to next weekend. Already

2323
02:02:39,467 --> 02:02:42,387
Speaker 3: they're all about do us for another weekend of weekend sport.

2324
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Speaker 3: As I mentioned Piney back in tomorrow night on Sportstook

2325
02:02:45,387 --> 02:02:48,067
Speaker 3: producer Randy thanks very much for your hard toil over

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Speaker 3: the course of the last forty eight Hours're gonna leave

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Speaker 3: you with a bit of Zach Brian musical interlude on

2328
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Speaker 3: weekend Sport this afternoon here on news Talk zebb. It

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Speaker 3: is coming up five away from three. Thanks guys, fifteen

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Speaker 3: Crown turn off the waitless plays it him down for.

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Speaker 19: A funeral, So pack the car and dry your eyes.

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02:03:18,267 --> 02:03:21,747
Speaker 19: I know they got plenty of young blood and left

2333
02:03:21,787 --> 02:03:27,387
Speaker 19: in them, and plenty nights on the pink skies you

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Speaker 19: taught them to enjoy.

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Speaker 11: So cleen the.

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Speaker 19: House, clear the drawers on the floors standing tall like

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Speaker 19: no one's ever been here before.

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Speaker 13: They're at all, And.

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Speaker 19: Don't you mention and all the end ships that are

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Speaker 19: screat on the doorframe. We all know your tiptoe up

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Speaker 19: the four one back in the way. If you can

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Speaker 19: see him.

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Speaker 22: Now, you'd be proud play.

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Speaker 19: Anythin days you'll be funeral.

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Speaker 1: It's beautiful.

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Speaker 3: I think I've heard you come in.

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Speaker 19: The kids are in town for a funeral.

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