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Speaker 1: And give the analysis.

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Speaker 2: Heather duplicy elland Drive with One New Zealand and the

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Speaker 3: Afternoon.

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Speaker 4: Welcome to the show coming up today, Air New Zealand.

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Speaker 4: It's delivered a worse than expected loss. We're going to

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Speaker 4: speak to the CEO after the five. SkyTV is doing

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Speaker 4: a whole bunch better. We'll speak to the CEO after

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Speaker 4: six and Federated Farmers as Mates with Labor again the

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Speaker 4: President after six thirty. Heather duplicylis so David Seymore's right

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Speaker 4: about Air New Zealand, but he's also wrong about In

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Speaker 4: New Zealand. Now, before before we get to that, let

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Speaker 4: me bring you up to speed with what's gone on

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Speaker 4: with Their New Zealand today. The news is not good.

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Speaker 4: The half year result is bad. It's a fifty nine

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Speaker 4: worse than was expected. Most of that, to be fair

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Speaker 4: to Air New Zealand, is just really not their fault.

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Speaker 4: They've had not one but two of their engines that

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Speaker 4: they use give them trouble. The economic downturn that we're

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Speaker 4: experiencing New Zealand experiencing in New Zealand is the worst

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Speaker 4: in most of our lifetimes. I mean, you have to

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Speaker 4: go back more than fifty years to find anything this

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Speaker 4: bad and that directly impacts their earnings because if we

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Speaker 4: don't have money, we're certainly not going to be spending

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Speaker 4: money on flying. But some of it is their fault.

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Speaker 4: They're squandering their customer loyalty with their poor on time

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Speaker 4: performance and a crappy Corra Club offering. And this is

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Speaker 4: where David Seymour is right when he says go woke,

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Speaker 4: go broke, because part of the reason ear New Zealand

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Speaker 4: is losing customers to Jetstar in this country is because

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Speaker 4: there are people who do not want to pay for

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Speaker 4: the Coral Club anymore. Because the offering is diminished from

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Speaker 4: people more than a New Zealand I think ever realized

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Speaker 4: you can at a cafe. There is no takeaway coffee

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Speaker 4: cups are bad for the environment. When they're flying planes.

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Speaker 4: They've just wasted time and money trialing an electric plane

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Speaker 4: they don't even know how to use in their fleet.

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Speaker 4: And they constantly harp on at the government about getting

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Speaker 4: But we're David Seymour is wrong is that he says

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Speaker 4: the solution here is to sell down the government's fifty

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Speaker 4: one percent share in near New Zealand. We can't do that.

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Speaker 4: We're an island country. There are two ways to get

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Speaker 4: keep on flying. And if we learned this at any time,

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Speaker 4: So David Simil's part right and part wrong. We have

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Speaker 4: We just need it to start doing its job properly.

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Speaker 4: It's nine two nine two. That's the text number. Standard

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Speaker 4: Do you remember the government's new policy that if you

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Speaker 4: Since the initiative started in July last year, one hundred

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Speaker 4: on their payments. Claire Buckley is an independent victim's advocate

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Speaker 4: and with US Now Hi, Claire, Hi, Heather. How good

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Speaker 5: It is so good, isn't it. It's great to see

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Speaker 5: I think it's always been known that most of the

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Speaker 5: And so now that there's actually imposed consequences, people are

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Speaker 4: What are the avenues you'd like to see explored?

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Speaker 1: Well, they have the.

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Speaker 5: Ability to tap income from for reparations and fines, and

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Speaker 5: of the higher reparations that have been ordered to be paid,

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Speaker 5: because remember that operations is not something that is being

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Speaker 5: paid to the victim for a punitive reason. It is

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Speaker 5: crime and are being repaid for. So the victim's actually

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Speaker 5: out of pocket the whole time. The offender hangs on

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Speaker 4: Now, does all of the money that is paid actually

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Speaker 5: No, so parts of it are find So parts of

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Speaker 5: it is money that you know, like a speeding ticket,

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Speaker 5: money that is outstanding. The reparations portion, however, makes up

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Speaker 5: about seventy percent, so that's victim's money that they are

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Speaker 4: I imagine this is going to go a long way to

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Speaker 1: Again, I agree.

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Speaker 5: I think that victims will feel much happier because previously,

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Speaker 5: if you've got a reparations order against you for a

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Speaker 4: But to your point, which you made before I think

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Speaker 1: I agree.

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Speaker 5: And one of the things with it being related to

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Speaker 5: Some offenders, particularly organized criminals, are very good at making

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Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, Claire, it's really good to talk to you.

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Speaker 4: Thank you very much. Cleiar Buckley, independent victim's advocate. So

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Speaker 4: this is these are the numbers for you, okay, So

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Speaker 4: what happened is over an eight month period between nine

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Speaker 4: in what five days ago, bailiffs scanned nearly one hundred

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Speaker 4: right now. Six hundred paid on the spot. Two hundred

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Speaker 4: ZEPPI Andrew by the way, and lots of text coming through,

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Speaker 4: to tell you Andrew's been banned from riding horses while

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Speaker 2: Good Sport with Generate celebrating great performances in sport and

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Speaker 6: Hello, darce Hi, Heather. Nice to see you wearing a

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Speaker 4: Yes, because this is your staple uniform as a white single.

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Speaker 4: You have got a gray singlet on because I've got

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Speaker 6: On it sandals, single and the cat. That's that's all

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Speaker 4: Now the black Caps have done the thing you wanted.

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Speaker 6: That was a crazy game. I didn't watch it live

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Speaker 4: See he's got a girlfriend.

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Speaker 6: Really, I've got Debbie Sorenson, the CEO of MINA, on

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Speaker 1: Hard talk Bold takes big stories. It's the Mike Hosking breakfast.

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Speaker 8: Self driving tech world has a strong New Zealand presence.

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Speaker 9: This isn't an enormous capital race, a real privilege for

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Speaker 1: Digging deeper into the day's headlines.

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Speaker 2: It's Heather Duper cl and drive with one New Zealand

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Speaker 4: A speaking of which it has been confirmed that Justinda's

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Speaker 4: Apparently they looked at a place in Curl Curl, another

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Speaker 4: New Zealand's undies. While in New Zealand's making a bigger

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Speaker 4: there's absolutely no reason for New Zealand to have an airline.

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Speaker 1: You're in the day's newspakers talked to Heather first.

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Speaker 2: Heather dupic elan drive with one New Zealand and the

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Speaker 4: Right, Marinson is going to be a US in ten

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Speaker 1: It's the world wires on news talks, they'd be drive.

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Speaker 4: Four people traveling in a US registered speedboat have been

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Speaker 4: Australian of the Year and child sex abuse survivor Grace Tame.

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Speaker 4: He was taking part in a quick fire word association

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Speaker 1: Dearbye said Australia Day.

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Speaker 12: Great, Grace Tame difficult.

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Speaker 4: And finally, coffin meditation is taking off in Japan for

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Speaker 2: Of the Grave International Correspondence with Ends and Eye Insurance

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Speaker 2: Peace of Mind for New Zealand business.

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Speaker 11: Hey, Maus, good afternoon.

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Speaker 4: Heather Mass is just Sindy going to be your neighbor?

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Speaker 11: Well, that's the all the talk, you know.

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Speaker 13: I'm not sure. I've not seen her personally out and

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Speaker 4: How close are you to the four million dollar properties

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Speaker 11: Indeed we will.

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Speaker 13: We'll have Pavlova and other New Zealand treads like Anzac biscuits.

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Speaker 11: It'll be fantastic.

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Speaker 4: She is actually quite a bake. I'm looking forward to

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Speaker 4: fifty bucks because I'm interested in that. Now, have you

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Speaker 11: Well for this for this week anyway.

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Speaker 13: You know, as soon as Donald Trump had that setback

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Speaker 11: It's a lot of money.

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Speaker 13: There's a lot at stake, and he's apparently managed to

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Speaker 11: Now, Don Farrell is.

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Speaker 13: Very experienced, been around long long time, and the point

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Speaker 11: This can change. This can change over night, as we've

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Speaker 13: Australia has dodged the fifteen percent, the ten percent still applies,

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Speaker 4: Now the accused kidnappers have been in court, have.

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Speaker 13: The two young men living with their parents, twenty four

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Speaker 13: and twenty nine, living in Sydney's Northwest. And you know,

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Speaker 13: I was told this morning that they were told to

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Speaker 13: kidnap an older man from that street and a rather

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Speaker 13: large cocaine debt would be discharged. That's what I was

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Speaker 13: told this morning from somebody who's in the know. Now

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Speaker 13: they've appeared in court. They got the wrong man, that's

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Speaker 13: the point. And he was an eighty five year old grandfather,

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Speaker 13: Chris Bagsarian, abducted on Friday, the thirteenth of this month,

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Speaker 13: and we understand he was killed two days later. They

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Speaker 13: worked out that was the wrong fellow, the guy they

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Speaker 13: were contracted to grab was only a few doors away.

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Speaker 11: He was a grandfather of a Sydney Underworld figure. So

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Speaker 11: the pair were.

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Speaker 13: Arrested as I say, at their parents' homes. Police are

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Speaker 13: looking for others. At least one other man caught on

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Speaker 13: CCTV as Chris Bagsarian was taken. Apparently he was tortured

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Speaker 13: in a finger cut off. Anyway, these two young men accused.

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Speaker 13: Now they are remarded in.

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Speaker 11: Custody and police of course are continuing investigations.

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Speaker 4: Thanks very much, appreciate it, mate, we'll talk to you

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Speaker 4: see Murray Old's Australia correspondent nineteen away.

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Speaker 1: From five, Heather Dupercy Ellen right.

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Speaker 4: I want to do a quick poll with you, so

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Speaker 4: tell me what. Okay, I'm going to give you this information,

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Speaker 4: then you tell me why this has happened. It turns

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Speaker 4: out there's not only a gender pay gap, which we

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Speaker 4: know about, but that there is now a gender property gap.

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Speaker 4: Coatality has done a report on it. They it's the

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Speaker 4: Women in Property Report where they basically look at female

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Speaker 4: ownership of property. I guess the clue is in the label.

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Speaker 4: They looked at gen zs of that cohort with the

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Speaker 4: men more than half own the house that they live in.

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Speaker 4: Of the women, only thirty three percent own the house

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Speaker 4: that they live in. Millennials, sixty six percent of the

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Speaker 4: men own the house that they live in, thirty seven

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Speaker 4: percent of the women own the house that they live in.

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Speaker 4: Then they looked at an investment gen z. Twenty percent

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Speaker 4: of men own investment properties compared to thirteen percent of women.

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Speaker 4: Millennials fifteen percent of men own investment properties compared to

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Speaker 4: nine percent for women. Now tell me if you can

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Speaker 4: why that is the case.

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Speaker 7: Why is it.

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Speaker 4: I'm not gonna I'm not gonna put ideas in your head.

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Speaker 4: I want to know if you've reached the same conclusion

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Speaker 4: that I have. Why is it that more men in

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Speaker 4: both of those generational cohorts own more property than women?

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Speaker 4: Nine two nine two is the text number. In the meantime,

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Speaker 4: child poverty numbers are out. So what it shows is

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Speaker 4: that one in seven children are living in a hardship

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Speaker 4: rights fourteen point three percent of the kiddies. And this

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Speaker 4: is for the year July twenty fourth through to June

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Speaker 4: twenty five. There was no significant change. I think this

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Speaker 4: is the most important line in the reporting. There was

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Speaker 4: no significant change in that from the year recorded prior

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Speaker 4: or since twenty eighteen. Now, what was twenty eighteen? Twenty

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Speaker 4: eighteen was pretty much the first full year that Jasinda

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Speaker 4: Ardun was in power. And what did Justinda Ardun go

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Speaker 4: hard on child poverty? She even made herself the Minister

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Speaker 4: of child poverty reduction. So what nothing has changed since

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Speaker 4: she made herself the Minister of child poverty reduction? So

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Speaker 4: what does this tell us? Does this tell us that

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Speaker 4: even though Jasinda, the woman who cared the most about

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Speaker 4: child poverty, tried her hardest to get rid of child

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Speaker 4: poverty and lifted put put in the best start payment

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Speaker 4: sixty dollars for every baby that's born per week. Even

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Speaker 4: though she did all of that stuff, it hasn't reduced anything.

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Speaker 4: So does that tell you that you can have you

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Speaker 4: can have the nice words, you could throw money at

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Speaker 4: the problem, but unless you've got an actual idea, nothing's

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Speaker 4: going to change. Very Sober's next seventeen away from.

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Speaker 2: Five Politics with centrics credit, check your customers and get payments.

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Speaker 1: Certainty got some.

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Speaker 4: Interesting theories coming through on the text about why the

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Speaker 4: women ownlyse property. We'll get to that fourteen away from five.

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Speaker 4: Very Soper senior political correspondent, Hi Barry.

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Speaker 7: Good afternoon, Heather.

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Speaker 4: Those victims of crime numbers are pretty good, Aim, Well.

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Speaker 14: They're incredible really when you think, you know, it wasn't

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Speaker 14: too long ago that every day we were talking about

516
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Speaker 14: ram raids and jewelry stores being busted open, and you know,

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Speaker 14: the gang patches taking over country little country areas for

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Speaker 14: funerals and what have you. But now they're a thing

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Speaker 14: of the past. And I find found the statistics incredible.

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Speaker 14: This is the latest crime and victim survey, forty nine

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Speaker 14: thousan fewer victims of violent crime than there were twenty

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Speaker 14: five than there were two years before. But then when

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Speaker 14: you look at the reforms that have happened, and people

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Speaker 14: tend I think to forget, although Mark Mitchell's out there

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Speaker 14: reminding us a lot. You know, you've got police dealing

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Speaker 14: now with the gangs, no patches, You've got that taxpayer

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Speaker 14: funded proliferation of cultural reports before the courts.

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Speaker 7: They've gone.

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Speaker 14: Stalking is illegal now, and victims of sexual assault have

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Speaker 14: the power to determine if offenders are granted name suppression.

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Speaker 4: But don't you think the more significant stuff here actually

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Speaker 4: are things like cops on the beat I was just

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Speaker 4: going to come to the end also, and also longer sentences,

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Speaker 4: so if you're a bad guy and you do something bad,

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Speaker 4: you're in jail where you can't do more bad exactly.

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Speaker 7: I was going to talk about that, But that is true.

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Speaker 14: I mean, there's now double the number of cops on

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Speaker 14: the beat and they are visible. You only have to

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Speaker 14: walk down the street and you'll see.

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Speaker 7: A cop somewhere. So it's great.

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Speaker 14: And that's one thing I think you can take your

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Speaker 14: head off to this government for it was pretty lawless

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Speaker 14: the time dare I say it, that Labor was in power,

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Speaker 14: it was everybody was talking about crime. But now I

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Speaker 14: think generally people feel.

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Speaker 7: A bit safe, do you know what?

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Speaker 10: Though?

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Speaker 4: It is it's something of a double edged sword for

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Speaker 4: the government though, because this is probably one of their

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Speaker 4: biggest success stories. This BLUs education. But the problem is

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Speaker 4: we don't vote for law and order in twenty twenty

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Speaker 4: six when law and order has been fixed for twenty

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Speaker 4: twenty six, do you know what I mean? So I

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Speaker 4: do may something that they can can.

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Speaker 14: Because it's been gradually getting fixed over the last so

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Speaker 14: they can. At the time you arrived at the election,

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Speaker 14: we've forgotten about.

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Speaker 4: The order problems and it's one of their biggest planks

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Speaker 4: to go to an election. Okay, now you're quite into

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Speaker 4: the story about Oharkey becoming the backup airport.

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Speaker 14: Well, when I looked at the cost, initially I thought, well, look,

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Speaker 14: it's four and a half million dollars to have air

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Speaker 14: controllers twenty four to seven around the clock and they're

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Speaker 14: only use maybe a few times a year. I heard

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Speaker 14: on this morning somebody saying though that imagine going out to.

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Speaker 7: Ohakia to fly to New York. Well, that's not what

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Speaker 7: it's for. It's basically for.

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Speaker 14: Airlines coming into the country. If they come and now

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Speaker 14: they've got to carry so much more additional fuel just

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Speaker 14: in case Auckland closes, and then they've got to fly

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Speaker 14: to christ Church to get a runway long enough.

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Speaker 7: So it's not the outward flights.

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Speaker 14: It's giving airlines assurances that if they come to New

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Speaker 14: Zealand they can lower their fuel stock because they've got

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Speaker 14: another airport nearby, and that should open the gates for

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Speaker 14: many more people I would imagine flying to this country

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Speaker 14: or airlines flight.

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Speaker 4: It occurred to me as one of those things that

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Speaker 4: is such a simple fix, yep, that will create so

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Speaker 4: much it will just free things up, and it's remarkable

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Speaker 4: it hasn't happened. Also, by the way, though, imagine what

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Speaker 4: a sweet job that is. You're going to be paid

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Speaker 4: to basically do nothing else.

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Speaker 14: That I thought, yeah, exactly want if they have to

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Speaker 14: then go though Mondet's Palmerston North is the the oh

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Speaker 14: kias you are sitting there, wouldn't go down to Wellington

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Speaker 14: and maybe fill in from it?

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Speaker 4: You're watching Netflix and you're getting paid for it and

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Speaker 4: you've got to be there.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, you got to be there.

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Speaker 4: You could probably put in a treadmill. Do you exercise

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Speaker 4: in the in the control tower exactly? You know, you could,

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Speaker 4: you could get buff, you could watch your Netflix, you could,

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Speaker 4: you'd probably do some study.

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Speaker 7: You're applying for a job.

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Speaker 15: I just feel like it is.

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Speaker 4: It's basically a benefit.

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Speaker 7: I live in lovely Parmy though, but little Okay, So

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Speaker 7: just Cinda.

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Speaker 4: It's now being confirmed And we had heard this room

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Speaker 4: at a while back that you Cinda was moving to Sydney,

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Speaker 4: and so it turns out she is.

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Speaker 14: Yes, she is, and she was spotted there just a

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Speaker 14: couple of weekends ago. And basically it was a mair

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Speaker 14: that was blown away to see her at a community

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Speaker 14: expo in a place called Jerringong south of Sydney.

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Speaker 7: Now the Kiyama Mea Kima.

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Speaker 14: Has a population of about twenty four thousand, so he's

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Speaker 14: not a big deal mentor here in Australia. But nevertheless,

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Speaker 14: Cameron McDonald he said he was taken by surprise when

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Speaker 14: he saw Jason durn there and of course she was

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Speaker 14: with her old buddy Yannick King, who now lives in

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Speaker 14: Australia herself, so it's no surprise that really Jason has

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Speaker 14: gone to live there because they're both great mates. But

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Speaker 14: McDonald he approached Ardr and told her how much he

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Speaker 14: admired her leadership and through COVID and the MOSK attacks,

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Speaker 14: he said he thought she's a.

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Speaker 7: Role model for all women everywhere.

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Speaker 14: And he said that there weren't many world leaders who

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Speaker 14: can keep their compassion, humility and good grace and live

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Speaker 14: by the values that she lives by.

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Speaker 7: And he said if he was asked as the five

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Speaker 7: people you'd want to meet in your lifetime, she would

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Speaker 7: be one of them. Wow, isn't that lovely?

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Speaker 14: But I'll tell you what, when you see that, you go.

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Speaker 14: So this is where Dern's power is it's not in

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Speaker 14: this country. And it was one stage the power was

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Speaker 14: there and it was.

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Speaker 7: To me misused.

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Speaker 14: But now she's overseas, she's dayified wherever she goes, and

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Speaker 14: you know it's not New Zealand's expense.

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Speaker 7: I wish her well in Australia.

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Speaker 4: Would you would you class her as part of the

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Speaker 4: brain drain?

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Speaker 7: Okay? I think we're finished for today and we hear that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, thank you, Barry, appreciate your time. Barry Soper, Senior

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Speaker 4: political correspondent. Eight away from five, five away from five.

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Speaker 4: Here are the texts. Heither men own more property because

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Speaker 4: they take more risks than women do. Here the men

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Speaker 4: take risks. Here, the men and more financially astute. They

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Speaker 4: don't put handbags and shoes. They don't buy handbags and

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Speaker 4: shoes for the hall of it, Steve, thank you. Here

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Speaker 4: the men are more savvy with money from Dave. Here,

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Speaker 4: the women waste money on shoes, purses and make up.

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Speaker 4: From ratsh. Here, the women are more interested in property

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Speaker 4: or less interested in property, more interested in clothes and makeup,

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Speaker 4: andect men to provide them with houses and all the

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Speaker 4: major things. Nobody reached the conclusion that I reached, which

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Speaker 4: was surely the reason that women own lease property is

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Speaker 4: because women earn less because women raise the children. Is

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Speaker 4: that not like the logical conclusion that you have to reach.

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Speaker 4: Women have fewer things because we earn less money because

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Speaker 4: we raise children, because we take maternity leave. The lesson

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Speaker 4: and that is, ladies, if you want to have your

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Speaker 4: house when you inevitably end up divorced because he's a dickhead,

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Speaker 4: because I mean, we all go to that, go through

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Speaker 4: that stage at some stage, don't we. When you if

658
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Speaker 4: you want to own your house at the end of it,

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Speaker 4: you probably need to not take the maternity leave so

660
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Speaker 4: that you can be a baller and have lots of

661
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Speaker 4: money at the end. Make him be the one go

662
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Speaker 4: home and look after the babies. Anyway, that's just my thoughts.

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Speaker 16: But I just did not realize how expensive handbags were,

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Speaker 16: if it's a choice.

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Speaker 4: My mum almost bought a beach bag the other day

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Speaker 4: worth eight thousand dollars. She did not buy it because

667
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Speaker 4: obviously that's ridiculous, but she thought about it a second.

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Speaker 4: But but this is if you believe the data, because

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Speaker 4: can I just point this out to you, According to

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Speaker 4: this data from totality. More than half of gen Z

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Speaker 4: men own their houses. How old are gen Z men

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Speaker 4: thirteen to thirty? How many thirty year old men and under?

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Speaker 4: Do you know who own the house that they live in?

674
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Speaker 4: But apparently half of them do? See I call BS

675
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Speaker 4: on this. We'll talk to Calvin when Calvin's with us

676
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Speaker 4: in a minute, because he's put out the data and

677
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Speaker 4: ask him about this. In New Zealand, CEO is with

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Speaker 4: us next on why it is that they've managed to

679
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Speaker 4: post such an enormous loss bigger than expected, while Quantus

680
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Speaker 4: has posted a net profit or a profit before tax

681
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Speaker 4: at least of one point seven billion dollars. News is next.

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Speaker 1: Pressing the news meet is to get the real story.

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Speaker 2: It's Heather duper cl and drive with one New Zealand

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Speaker 2: to coverage like no one else.

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Speaker 1: New Talks have me Afternoon.

686
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Speaker 4: In New Zealand has posted its halfier results and it's

687
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Speaker 4: worse than expected. The net loss is forty million dollars.

688
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Speaker 4: It's prompted AX Party leader David Seymour to renew calls

689
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Speaker 4: for the government to sell its majority stake in the airline.

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Speaker 4: In New Zealand, CEO's Nickel Rabashenka Henickel Hi, Heather, why

691
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Speaker 4: have you made a loss when Quantus has made a

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Speaker 4: profit of one point seven billion dollars.

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Speaker 11: Yeah.

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Speaker 17: Look, it's a tough result for us, but not unexpected,

695
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Speaker 17: and we'd signaled it. Three things driving that result. One

696
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Speaker 17: is ongoing grounded aircraft challenge that we've had because of

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Speaker 17: the engine issues. The second is softer than expected demand recovery,

698
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Speaker 17: particularly here domestically for US in New Zealand. And the

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Speaker 17: third is rising costs. Some of those costs are related

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Speaker 17: to the engine issue, some inefficiencies in the business, A

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Speaker 17: lot of them relate to costs of around accessing spare

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Speaker 17: parts for our aircraft, and as you know, and I've

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Speaker 17: spoken to it about it a fair bit, fees, levees

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Speaker 17: and landing charges which are inflating above CPI at quite

705
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Speaker 17: a significant rate. So really that's what's driving the current result.

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Speaker 17: But as I said, it's not unexpected and we have

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Speaker 17: signaled it.

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Speaker 4: What is it going to take to turn this around?

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Speaker 4: What do you need to do?

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Speaker 17: Yeah, look, that's a good question. There are sort of

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Speaker 17: three big buckets of things that we're already doing. The

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Speaker 17: first is getting our aircraft backflying we've eight aircraft parked up,

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Speaker 17: and you know, we've been dealt in unlucky hand as

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Speaker 17: far as that's concerned. We have two engines on both

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Speaker 17: our narrow bodies and wide bodies that have issues global issues.

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Speaker 17: We're one of two airlines in the world that are

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Speaker 17: exposed to this issue, US in Ana and Japan. But

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Speaker 17: we've had a bit of a breakthrough so Rolls Royce

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Speaker 17: the fix that they've finally put into those engines seem

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Speaker 17: to be working. We're going from about eight hundred and

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Speaker 17: fifty cycles or takeoffs and landing still about two and

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Speaker 17: a half two to two and a half thousand. That's

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Speaker 17: a very market improvement on Pratt and Whitney. Over the

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Speaker 17: last couple of months we've negotiated a pretty good deal

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Speaker 17: where we get two of our aircraft back from them

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Speaker 17: so we can fly those. So by the end of

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Speaker 17: this year, off that at eight aircraft that are currently grounded,

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Speaker 17: four of them will be back up and flying again.

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Speaker 17: This is also the same period where we get finally

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Speaker 17: the two new seven eight sevens delivered. These are men

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Speaker 17: have been delivered in twenty twenty two, so we've been

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Speaker 17: waiting for them.

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Speaker 7: For a while.

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Speaker 17: Now, and so having those aircraft back means for the

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Speaker 17: first time in six years, we can start thinking about growth,

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Speaker 17: and for an airline like us, growth is everything. We

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Speaker 17: do need to grow to make sure we can distribute

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Speaker 17: the cost fixed costs we have, we can put more capacity,

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Speaker 17: we can go to new places.

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Speaker 4: So that's is that the first one.

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Speaker 17: That's the first one.

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Speaker 4: What are the two other buckets?

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Speaker 17: The second thing is in my first week of ask

744
00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:07,360
Speaker 17: the business to we're basically doing a strategic reset, so

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Speaker 17: we're reviewing all parts of the business.

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Speaker 4: Does that mean you're reviewing roots?

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Speaker 11: We are.

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Speaker 4: Would you if you found that there are roots that

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Speaker 4: are unprofitable and there are definitely roots that are unprofitable, yes,

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Speaker 4: do you want to cut them?

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Speaker 17: Well, we run a full service network, so every full

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Speaker 17: service airline in the world has a spread of roots.

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Speaker 17: As far as profitability is concerned, so we look at

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Speaker 17: individual profitability of individual routes, but we also look at

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Speaker 17: the network effect of having that route in place, Does

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Speaker 17: it feed another more profitable route, et cetera.

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Speaker 4: Yep, But by and.

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Speaker 17: Large we'll be taking a look at every route and

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Speaker 17: making sure that as a network, the.

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Speaker 4: Whole thing happens to compare to cut roots snackle.

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Speaker 17: That we do that as general course of business all

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Speaker 17: the time, and we'll continue to keep doing that, you know,

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Speaker 17: as any airline needs to do.

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Speaker 4: Okay, years you've got your hand like you want to

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Speaker 4: say something else.

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Speaker 17: Well, the other thing, I think that's very important, and

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Speaker 17: you and I have talked about this previously, and that's

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Speaker 17: the third bucket is you know, a New Zealand does

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Speaker 17: well when we fulfill one fundamental promise we have for

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Speaker 17: our customers, which is punctual service. So a lot of

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Speaker 17: focus is going into making sure that our operational performance

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Speaker 17: is really where it needs to be, because.

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Speaker 4: I mean, that's your point of difference with jet stuff totally.

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Speaker 4: Has David semol got a point here when he says,

775
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Speaker 4: go woke, go broke. Have you guys got yourself a

776
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Speaker 4: little too distracted by all that kind of nonsense?

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Speaker 6: Look, I get it.

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Speaker 17: It's politics.

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Speaker 4: No, it's not politics, nicol, it's a customer experience. The

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Speaker 4: customer experience is that you go into the core club

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Speaker 4: and I mean this sounds petty, but it's important. You

782
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Speaker 4: can't even take a paper cup with your coffee.

783
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Speaker 16: You're in a rush.

784
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Speaker 4: You can't even take the paper cup with your coffee

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Speaker 4: onto a plane where they give you another paper cup

786
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Speaker 4: on a plane. Right, And this is about the environment,

787
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Speaker 4: that kind of stuff, because what happens there is it

788
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Speaker 4: reduces the premium offering that you've got, which means but

789
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Speaker 4: by eventually the coral club doesn't matter. You just start

790
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Speaker 4: flying star Right. Has that kind of stuff tripped you up?

791
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:04,759
Speaker 4: Worrying about an electric plane you don't even you've been

792
00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:06,480
Speaker 4: trialing it, you don't even know how to deploy it

793
00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:10,680
Speaker 4: in your fleet. Worrying about sustainable aviation fuel all the time,

794
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Speaker 4: which is miles more expensive than what you're paying for

795
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Speaker 4: general fuel. Is all of the stuff tripping you guys up,

796
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Speaker 4: when you should just be focusing on flying the existing planes.

797
00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:21,440
Speaker 17: No, it's not distracting us. I know from the outside

798
00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:23,680
Speaker 17: it might look like it might be distracting us. I

799
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Speaker 17: can assure you as the CEO of the company, it

800
00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:30,320
Speaker 17: is far from distracting us. I think the point you

801
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Speaker 17: make around getting back to the fundamentals of the business

802
00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:36,839
Speaker 17: is a very important point. You know, as far as

803
00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:40,480
Speaker 17: our customer experience is concerned, knowing the key customer segments

804
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Speaker 17: that we serve and making sure that our offering is

805
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:47,240
Speaker 17: aligned to them is very important. We are world renowned

806
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Speaker 17: for our uniquely Kiwi service and we are great at it,

807
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Speaker 17: but that's not something we can take for granted. So

808
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Speaker 17: a lot of our focus in this next phase is

809
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Speaker 17: going into how do we refresh our service proposition and

810
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Speaker 17: do we have the right product on board. That's why

811
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Speaker 17: coming into this role, I've also extended that retrofit program

812
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Speaker 17: where we're putting new seats and new galleys and new

813
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Speaker 17: screens and so on. Yeah, also into our Triple seven

814
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Speaker 17: product because on the wide body fleet, you know, having

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Speaker 17: a world class product on board our aircraft is mission critical.

816
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Speaker 4: Yeah, stuff that works and isn't broken, which is what

817
00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:23,520
Speaker 4: people are complaining about. Okay, So if you're doing all

818
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Speaker 4: the stuff that's going to turn it around, does this

819
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Speaker 4: mean it'll be a profit next year?

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Speaker 17: The road to profitability is one where you know we

821
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Speaker 17: will you will see huge improvement and business performance next year.

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Speaker 17: But really what we're aiming to get to is anywhere

823
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Speaker 17: between six to eight percent EBIT margin.

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Speaker 4: So this doesn't sound like it's a profit next year.

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Speaker 4: When is your goal for a profit, Well.

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Speaker 17: We will start to be profitable from next year if

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Speaker 17: everything goes to plan, and you know, we are working

828
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Speaker 17: in an environment where we don't control all of the variables.

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Speaker 17: That's why you see me advocating as often as I

830
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Speaker 17: do for a fair, affordable, future fit aviation system for

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Speaker 17: New Zealand, for exis. So those things we don't control ourselves,

832
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Speaker 17: and we can't pass all of those costs onto our customers.

833
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Speaker 17: So we do need everyone around who participates in the

834
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Speaker 17: system to tighten their belts and make sure that we

835
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Speaker 17: do have the right aviation system settings. That said, you know,

836
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Speaker 17: we think that over the next two to three years

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Speaker 17: we're well on our part to recovery. One of the

838
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Speaker 17: key reasons I say that so confidently is for the

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Speaker 17: first time in six years, we've got new aircraft coming

840
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Speaker 17: back into the fleet and we're solving engine issues. Trust me,

841
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Speaker 17: everyone of my eleven and a half thousand colleagues have

842
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Speaker 17: been waiting for the day where we stop talking about

843
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Speaker 17: engine issues.

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Speaker 7: We're sick and tired of it.

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Speaker 4: Nicol, thank you for your time. Appreciated. Nichol revshanke In

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Speaker 4: New Zealand's chief executives coming up quarter past five. Are

847
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Speaker 4: you a fisherman, a diver or a kayaker? However, you're

848
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Speaker 4: hitting out on the water the summer, you need to

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Speaker 4: keep an eye out for boy Boy, which is your

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Speaker 4: friendly reminder to stay safe before you launch. Now you're

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Speaker 4: want to spot boy Boy bobbing around out there, popping

852
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Speaker 4: up to remind you of the three big rules of

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Speaker 4: the water. Rule number one life jackets look better on

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Speaker 4: wearing one is the simplest and most effective way to

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Speaker 4: protect yourself. Rule number two. The marine where the forecast

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Speaker 4: is not going to check itself as it so before

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Speaker 4: you head out, take a moment to look up the

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Speaker 4: latest condition so you're not caught by surprising. Rule number

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Speaker 4: three always take two waterproof ways to call for help,

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Speaker 4: a locator beacon and a phone that's sealed in a

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Speaker 4: plastic bag that can make all the difference in an emergency.

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Speaker 4: Preparation is the key to staying safe. So before you

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Speaker 4: push off, or paddle out or drop a line, remember

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Speaker 4: be sure before you leave the shore.

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Speaker 1: Ever, do for cea Allen.

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Speaker 4: Yeah in New Zealand's not going to love the text

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Speaker 4: traffic we're getting at the moment. I'll get you some

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Speaker 4: of those texts and just to tickets eighteen past five.

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Speaker 4: Now there are warnings young women are being left behind

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Speaker 4: in the property market. According to Totality's latest data, while

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Speaker 4: sixty six percent of millennial men own the home that

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Speaker 4: they live in, only thirty seven percent of millennial women do.

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Speaker 4: Calvin Davidson's Totalities are chief economists and with us now, hi,

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Speaker 4: Calvin right, Is this as simple as women earn less,

875
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Speaker 4: therefore they are less able to buy a property.

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Speaker 18: That's definitely part of it. So we know there's a

877
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Speaker 18: gender wage cap that our survey also talks about the

878
00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:12,600
Speaker 18: proportion of females earning SA one hundred thousand dollars as

879
00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:16,400
Speaker 18: an arbitrary figure. That proportion is lower than for males.

880
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Speaker 18: And also there aren't some non monetary factors too, so

881
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Speaker 18: it's not just a monetary thing. There's also a i''m

882
00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:26,400
Speaker 18: not sure education is the right word here, but a

883
00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:29,759
Speaker 18: knowledge piece of information piece that there's sixteen percent of

884
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Speaker 18: females who don't own a property said they don't own

885
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:35,759
Speaker 18: it because they simply don't know how to start, as

886
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Speaker 18: opposed to six percent of males. So yeah, there seems

887
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Speaker 18: to be a financial challenge here, but also perhaps an

888
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Speaker 18: information will get to.

889
00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:44,759
Speaker 4: How do we explain that we're going through the same

890
00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:45,720
Speaker 4: education system.

891
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:48,759
Speaker 18: Yeah, I'm not so sure. I mean, I went through

892
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Speaker 18: school a little while ago to be here, so I'm

893
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Speaker 18: not I'm not totally sure what's tort at school now.

894
00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:55,440
Speaker 18: But you do hear a lot about financial education perhaps

895
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Speaker 18: missing from the curriculum, which, as you say, is going

896
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Speaker 18: to be a male and female issue. But you know,

897
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Speaker 18: a good start would seem to be getting some of

898
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Speaker 18: these things into schools, just how to budget, how to

899
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Speaker 18: run them, all these sorts of things, perhaps in this case,

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Speaker 18: how to buy a property, And there are guides out there,

901
00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:13,520
Speaker 18: but it's I guess the case of go and look

902
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Speaker 18: for them.

903
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Speaker 4: Now, how legit is this data, because what your data

904
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Speaker 4: says is that among men under the age of thirty,

905
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Speaker 4: half of them own their houses, the houses that they're

906
00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:24,960
Speaker 4: live in, and I call bs on that.

907
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Speaker 18: Yeah, there's going to be potentially in the different cohorts,

908
00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:33,040
Speaker 18: potentially some sampling issues I suppose you mightn't want to

909
00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:35,719
Speaker 18: look at as the relativity is here with this is

910
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Speaker 18: a report aimed at a male versus female type of thing,

911
00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:44,040
Speaker 18: and trying to identify those gaps in my ownership and

912
00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:47,600
Speaker 18: sometimes that information so yeah, you can, I mean, there's

913
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Speaker 18: always a way to question stats. I think I just

914
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Speaker 18: point to the relativities here. We know that female ownership

915
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Speaker 18: is lower at those younger ages and also those lower incomes,

916
00:43:58,360 --> 00:43:59,920
Speaker 18: so those are things to work on.

917
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Speaker 1: I guess yeah.

918
00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:03,520
Speaker 4: All right, Hey, Calvin, appreciate your time. It's Calvin Davidson,

919
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:07,160
Speaker 4: Totality's chief property economist. Right, let's deal with AI and

920
00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:09,239
Speaker 4: in New Zealand five twenty one.

921
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Speaker 2: The name you trusted to get the answers you need,

922
00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:17,240
Speaker 2: it's Heather dupla clan drive with one New Zealand coverage

923
00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:19,320
Speaker 2: like no one else news talks.

924
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:20,759
Speaker 1: That'd be Heather.

925
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Speaker 4: I'm a real estate agent. I'm sorry to say that

926
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:24,880
Speaker 4: women are a lot harder to please than men. They

927
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Speaker 4: always want more than they can afford in my experience,

928
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Speaker 4: Thank you, Murray. Five twenty four. Here's a question for you.

929
00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:31,640
Speaker 4: Why are we so weird about AI?

930
00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:32,359
Speaker 11: Why?

931
00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:34,960
Speaker 4: Why does AI freak us out like it does? I'm

932
00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:37,760
Speaker 4: asking be cause stuff the news media outlet is creating

933
00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:41,000
Speaker 4: a thing out of AI. Writing Nicola Willis's speeches, This

934
00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:44,680
Speaker 4: whole saga started with Chris Hopkins is extremely boring State

935
00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:46,640
Speaker 4: of the Nation's speech earlier this week. It was so

936
00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:50,280
Speaker 4: boring and so full of platitudes that nikola Willis quipped

937
00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:52,759
Speaker 4: that chat GP could have written it. So that gave

938
00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:54,719
Speaker 4: the guys its stuff an idea. They ran it through

939
00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:57,160
Speaker 4: a program that could tell if AI has written it,

940
00:44:57,239 --> 00:45:00,440
Speaker 4: and actually no, it was mostly that boring speech, mostly

941
00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:02,960
Speaker 4: written by a clearly very boring human, because they've got

942
00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:05,759
Speaker 4: a seventy nine percent human score. So then the guys

943
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Speaker 4: at Stuff decided to run a speech that nikola Willis's

944
00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:10,960
Speaker 4: had given to the New Zealand Economic Forum and Hamilton

945
00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:13,840
Speaker 4: through the same tool, and it turns out one hundred

946
00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:15,879
Speaker 4: and fifty nine of the speeches one hundred and ninety

947
00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:20,040
Speaker 4: seven sentences were probably AI generated or AI assisted. Now

948
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Speaker 4: I am guessing the fact that this is a story

949
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:25,520
Speaker 4: suggests that either the guys at stuff don't like the

950
00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:28,160
Speaker 4: use of AI, or they think the public will not

951
00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:30,399
Speaker 4: like the use of AI, which I find odd because

952
00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:33,359
Speaker 4: I take the complete opposite view. AI is here. It's

953
00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:35,880
Speaker 4: a proven tool to lift productivity by doing your menial

954
00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:38,080
Speaker 4: tasks so you can free up time to do more

955
00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:41,200
Speaker 4: important tasks. In which case, if a politician or more

956
00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:45,080
Speaker 4: likely one of their staffers isn't using AI to write

957
00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:49,000
Speaker 4: speeches might be questioning why why are they ignoring a

958
00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:51,719
Speaker 4: tool readily available? Why have they not got a lot

959
00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:53,480
Speaker 4: of work to do? Have they got too much free time?

960
00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:58,520
Speaker 4: But also I feel that being disappointed that AI is

961
00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:01,080
Speaker 4: writing the speech suggests that people are laboring under the

962
00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:03,800
Speaker 4: impression that politicians are writing their own speeches. They're not.

963
00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:06,520
Speaker 4: There is someone in the office that does that. And

964
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Speaker 4: maybe you think that the speeches are uniquely tailored to

965
00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:13,319
Speaker 4: that particular audience because they're so special. They're not. They're

966
00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:16,399
Speaker 4: just the same political messaging pumped out every single time.

967
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Speaker 4: So I would say that political speeches are a perfect

968
00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:22,360
Speaker 4: example of exactly what AI should be used for. And

969
00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:23,719
Speaker 4: if we could all do a little bit more of

970
00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:26,920
Speaker 4: what Chris and Nikola, or more likely their staffs are doing,

971
00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:29,560
Speaker 4: we might actually see some productivity in New Zealand. Lift

972
00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:34,040
Speaker 4: a wee bit ever, do for c Ellenhether, it's not

973
00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:36,120
Speaker 4: the distraction of all the woke stuff that Air New

974
00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:39,040
Speaker 4: Zealand is doing. It's the cost that it's added, bottom

975
00:46:39,120 --> 00:46:41,560
Speaker 4: line cost with no return one hundred percent. Agree on

976
00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:43,680
Speaker 4: that with Andrew, because Dan has then sent a text

977
00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:46,440
Speaker 4: pointing out that that little ev plane experiment cost Air

978
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:48,600
Speaker 4: New Zealand about six and a half million New Zealand

979
00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:50,600
Speaker 4: dollars and we have no bloody idea what they have,

980
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:53,000
Speaker 4: no idea what they're going to do with this ev

981
00:46:53,120 --> 00:46:54,480
Speaker 4: plane now that they've run it out for six and

982
00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:57,760
Speaker 4: a half million dollars. Heither in New Zealand, I'm goal elite.

983
00:46:58,040 --> 00:47:00,720
Speaker 4: I am now avoiding them like the plague crap service

984
00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:03,120
Speaker 4: staff that can't fit down the aisle, always late and

985
00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:05,359
Speaker 4: as you say, no takeaway coffee cups from the lunch

986
00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:08,000
Speaker 4: that's from Campbell here. The absolute twaddle that they have

987
00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:09,839
Speaker 4: the best service. I spat the dummy with the Air

988
00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:12,080
Speaker 4: New Zealand as a flight to Europe was four thousand

989
00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:16,080
Speaker 4: dollars more than Katar. What an experience on Katar better seats,

990
00:47:16,120 --> 00:47:18,719
Speaker 4: food service and cheaper. One hour up from Auckland, I

991
00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:20,400
Speaker 4: woke up and they serve me a full breakfast. Air

992
00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:22,200
Speaker 4: New Zealand would never do that again. They're miles off.

993
00:47:22,239 --> 00:47:24,440
Speaker 4: That's from Hagen Hither. I will go out of my

994
00:47:24,520 --> 00:47:26,960
Speaker 4: way to avoid a New Zealand on long haul. The

995
00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:29,880
Speaker 4: only people are only people I live in regional New

996
00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:32,160
Speaker 4: Zealand is why I'm forced to use Air New Zealand

997
00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:33,840
Speaker 4: to get to Auckland. But they're not the same on

998
00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:37,200
Speaker 4: the same planet as Katar singerpoor Arapa Emirates blah blah blah,

999
00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:40,800
Speaker 4: it goes. Honestly, that is just a sample of just

1000
00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:43,799
Speaker 4: gazillions of texts that have come in. I personally think

1001
00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:46,200
Speaker 4: in New Zealand has a major problem here and I

1002
00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:49,040
Speaker 4: don't see them turning this loss around quick smart in

1003
00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:51,759
Speaker 4: a hurry if they don't acknowledge the fact that people

1004
00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:54,200
Speaker 4: are incredibly disappointed with the service that they're getting. So

1005
00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:56,960
Speaker 4: going out there and saying, what did he say, uniquely

1006
00:47:57,080 --> 00:47:59,560
Speaker 4: key we service? Yeah, you got to actually do a

1007
00:47:59,680 --> 00:48:02,600
Speaker 4: unique Kimi service. We don't believe that line anymore. Anyway,

1008
00:48:02,600 --> 00:48:05,600
Speaker 4: we'll talk to the huddle about it shortly. Also, we

1009
00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:08,040
Speaker 4: have to talk about where the volunteers who respond to

1010
00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:10,440
Speaker 4: emergency services to get the acc I don't know if

1011
00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:12,799
Speaker 4: you realize this is for mental health ninety five percent

1012
00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:16,160
Speaker 4: at at the Mount Monginui Landslip wire volunteers. That's next.

1013
00:48:19,520 --> 00:48:21,960
Speaker 2: On your smart speaker, on the iHeart app and in

1014
00:48:22,040 --> 00:48:24,480
Speaker 2: your car on your drive home. It's heather ful to

1015
00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:27,800
Speaker 2: c ellen drive with One New Zealand and the power

1016
00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:30,040
Speaker 2: of satellite mobile news talks that'd be.

1017
00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:42,560
Speaker 4: It's a pretty solid result for sky TV today, although

1018
00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:44,719
Speaker 4: they are warning that things are not looking too good

1019
00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:47,440
Speaker 4: into the future. There is a bit of the advertising

1020
00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:49,799
Speaker 4: dollar in the TV is a little bit softer than

1021
00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:51,759
Speaker 4: they were expecting. Also, they've had quite a big drop

1022
00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:53,840
Speaker 4: off on the Neon subscriptions. They've also had quite a

1023
00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:56,279
Speaker 4: big drop off on the Skybox subscriptions. We'll have a

1024
00:48:56,400 --> 00:48:58,719
Speaker 4: chat to the CEO, Sophie Maloney after six in the

1025
00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:01,000
Speaker 4: huddle standing by. It's twenty five or away from sex

1026
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Speaker 4: Ever dooper c L Now there are renewed calls for

1027
00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:07,920
Speaker 4: emergency service volunteers to get acc cover for the mental

1028
00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:10,399
Speaker 4: harm that they get on the job. Apparently ninety five

1029
00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:14,000
Speaker 4: percent of the responders to the Mount Mongonui landslip with volunteers,

1030
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:15,960
Speaker 4: which just shows the extent of reliance that we have

1031
00:49:16,080 --> 00:49:18,879
Speaker 4: on these people. Wendy Writers, the chief executive at Land

1032
00:49:18,960 --> 00:49:22,600
Speaker 4: Search and Rescuing with US, Hi, Wendy, Hi, Heather, why

1033
00:49:22,680 --> 00:49:24,919
Speaker 4: why don't they get acc cover for the mental harm?

1034
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Speaker 19: I will just sorry correct one comment you made there.

1035
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Speaker 19: It's ninety five percent of search and rescue workforce are volunteers,

1036
00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:37,640
Speaker 19: not necessarily ninety five percent who responded to Mount Mominerity. Okay,

1037
00:49:38,200 --> 00:49:40,520
Speaker 19: so your question, I just wanted to really clear on that.

1038
00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:44,480
Speaker 19: So your question with why don't they Yeah, and I

1039
00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:46,960
Speaker 19: you know, and then I think that's an excellent question.

1040
00:49:47,080 --> 00:49:49,719
Speaker 19: I think that's what we're really kind of advocating for.

1041
00:49:50,360 --> 00:49:54,920
Speaker 19: It's historic and legislation. Volunteers under legislation are considered to

1042
00:49:54,960 --> 00:49:58,880
Speaker 19: be doing a recreational activity and the current acc legislation

1043
00:49:59,040 --> 00:50:01,760
Speaker 19: doesn't cover them for the mental harm that they experience

1044
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Speaker 19: when actually they are providing a critical service to the

1045
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Speaker 19: communities of New Zealands.

1046
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Speaker 4: What proportion do you reckon of them end up with

1047
00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:10,359
Speaker 4: some sort of mental harm.

1048
00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:13,960
Speaker 19: If I'm not in a position to be able to

1049
00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:18,000
Speaker 19: confirm exact stats, we do deal with a number on

1050
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Speaker 19: an annual basis, and you know, it varies from individuals,

1051
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Speaker 19: so some for some it is a cumultive effect. We

1052
00:50:25,360 --> 00:50:28,839
Speaker 19: have land starch rescue volunteers who have been contributing for many,

1053
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Speaker 19: many years, and for others it can be one significant

1054
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Speaker 19: or traumatic search and rescue that triggers it for them.

1055
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Speaker 19: So it does vary, and I think it you know,

1056
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Speaker 19: it's just reflective of the type of work that they do.

1057
00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:43,520
Speaker 4: What does cover? If they were to get cover, what

1058
00:50:43,560 --> 00:50:45,279
Speaker 4: would the cover look like and what would what kind

1059
00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:47,279
Speaker 4: of a state would they be in to qualify for cover?

1060
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Speaker 19: It would reflect the same cover that any paid like

1061
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Speaker 19: you know, for example, for an emergency or police who

1062
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Speaker 19: also undertake search and rescue. It would reflect the same

1063
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Speaker 19: as that it would mean. So we provide quite. We

1064
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Speaker 19: can provide short term support for them, We provide counseling services,

1065
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Speaker 19: We can also provide other therapies for them. But it's

1066
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Speaker 19: for those that have long term sort of PTSD, and

1067
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Speaker 19: it's that longer term support that we are unable to

1068
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Speaker 19: provide in order to reintegrate them back into their lives

1069
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Speaker 19: into the community.

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Speaker 4: I would imagine that the answer to why don't we

1071
00:51:21,800 --> 00:51:23,879
Speaker 4: give them cover is because if we start giving cover

1072
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Speaker 4: to these volunteers, we will probably end up giving cover

1073
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Speaker 4: to all volunteers in any situation, right would that be

1074
00:51:29,800 --> 00:51:32,560
Speaker 4: the answer? And that would just be so expensive And

1075
00:51:32,680 --> 00:51:33,160
Speaker 4: I think this.

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Speaker 19: Is where you start to get a distinction of different

1077
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Speaker 19: types of volunteers. So enough, if I speak for landsts

1078
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Speaker 19: from rescue, they are trained, they meet a competency frame it,

1079
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Speaker 19: but what they actually do is they respond on behalf

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Speaker 19: of New Zealand government in order to provide services to

1081
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Speaker 19: the community. So work closely with the New Zealand Police

1082
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Speaker 19: and with Maritime New Zealands who provide the taskings for them.

1083
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Speaker 19: So like many of our other emergency services or emergency

1084
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Speaker 19: responder volunteers within search and rescue, they're very much providing

1085
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Speaker 19: a service to New Zealanders that's an emergency type or

1086
00:52:07,600 --> 00:52:10,960
Speaker 19: a response type service. So it's a lot of New

1087
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Speaker 19: Zealand is filled. The gaps are filled by volunteers. So

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Speaker 19: I do acknowledge that we can talk about a wider

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Speaker 19: volunteer pool which may stretch to someone you know, supporting

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Speaker 19: someone in the community of driving services. But this is

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Speaker 19: in an emergency or a search rescue situation. It is

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Speaker 19: quite a different dynamic, and I think the challenges you

1093
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Speaker 19: have our volunteers working alongside paid staff. Although volunteers do

1094
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Speaker 19: make up ninety five percent of the workforce, they do

1095
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Speaker 19: alongside paid staff, and we're just seeking equity for alongside

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Speaker 19: the paid staff who are dealing with the same search

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Speaker 19: and rescue operation and the same impacts.

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Speaker 4: Wendy, thank you for your toime. I appreciate it when

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Speaker 4: do you write Land Search and Rescue Chief executive Heather

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Speaker 4: It's not hard to see why Greg Fororan pulled the pin.

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Speaker 4: Doesn't look like it's much fun running in New Zealand.

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Speaker 4: Twenty away from six the.

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Speaker 2: Huddle with New Zealand Southeby's International Realty, a name you

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Speaker 4: On the huddle of this this evening we have Clear

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Speaker 4: Delord journalist and Ali Jones from red PR HALLO.

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Speaker 3: You too hither, Hi, Ali Hill?

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00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:08,600
Speaker 7: Right, Claire?

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00:53:08,600 --> 00:53:11,800
Speaker 4: Would you sell down the government's stake any New Zealand?

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00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:14,440
Speaker 3: Well, certainly not now, because who's going to buy it?

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Speaker 7: At what price?

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's losing a million a week roughly.

1113
00:53:18,239 --> 00:53:21,399
Speaker 4: If you look at this report and you know, a lot.

1114
00:53:21,320 --> 00:53:23,680
Speaker 3: Of the problems are beyond its control, but I do

1115
00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:27,360
Speaker 3: think that it's image problems are within its control. So

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00:53:27,520 --> 00:53:29,680
Speaker 3: things like running on time where they you know, where

1117
00:53:29,719 --> 00:53:35,240
Speaker 3: they can beyond you know, disruptions like weather that seems

1118
00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:39,120
Speaker 3: to have spiraled downwards. And I even recently I was

1119
00:53:39,160 --> 00:53:41,600
Speaker 3: in Blenham waiting for my flight and they called for

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00:53:41,680 --> 00:53:44,320
Speaker 3: people to offload and to take two hundred dollars in

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00:53:44,400 --> 00:53:46,880
Speaker 3: the next available flight. I mean how do you overbook

1122
00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:51,439
Speaker 3: Blenham to Auckland. You know, it's just I've never heard

1123
00:53:51,480 --> 00:53:54,640
Speaker 3: of that happening domestically before. And I'm not too worried

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00:53:54,640 --> 00:53:57,680
Speaker 3: about the cry lunch because I think most people are

1125
00:53:57,760 --> 00:53:59,200
Speaker 3: not going to the cry lunch.

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Speaker 4: I think that's one of our first world problems that

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00:54:01,920 --> 00:54:04,000
Speaker 4: we have. I think I think that's quite a significant

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Speaker 4: problem for anger. Yeah, in terms of I think that

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Speaker 4: for a lot of people, the Coral Lounge is the

1130
00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:11,360
Speaker 4: reason they don't fly Jetstar. If you give up on

1131
00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:13,400
Speaker 4: the Coral Lounge, then the world is your oyster. You

1132
00:54:13,440 --> 00:54:15,080
Speaker 4: can fly whoever you want. And that's where they lose

1133
00:54:15,120 --> 00:54:15,359
Speaker 4: the law.

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Speaker 3: I know people who have given up on it. They

1135
00:54:17,239 --> 00:54:19,840
Speaker 3: just say look for the cost for the extra costuditor ticket.

1136
00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:21,400
Speaker 3: They just go and buy a cup of coffee and

1137
00:54:21,480 --> 00:54:22,440
Speaker 3: sit on a mile.

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Speaker 4: Away at the time. That's what I would advocate doing.

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Speaker 4: What do you think, Ali, would you sell down the

1140
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Speaker 4: government chap well?

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00:54:28,480 --> 00:54:31,920
Speaker 20: Exactly as Claire says, certainly not. Now this feels really

1142
00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:34,520
Speaker 20: odd to me. You know, I do wonder whether Greg

1143
00:54:34,600 --> 00:54:37,279
Speaker 20: knew something and off he went, because this just does

1144
00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:40,440
Speaker 20: seem to have spiraled. I'm not big with figures. But

1145
00:54:40,560 --> 00:54:42,960
Speaker 20: what I've found interesting was that, you know, the operating

1146
00:54:43,040 --> 00:54:45,560
Speaker 20: costs were up eight percent. The big part of that

1147
00:54:45,800 --> 00:54:49,160
Speaker 20: is fuel, so that's about I think about eight hundred million.

1148
00:54:49,239 --> 00:54:52,120
Speaker 20: What is the other eight percent? To me, it feels

1149
00:54:52,160 --> 00:54:54,880
Speaker 20: I know they've got problems with with planes being grounded.

1150
00:54:54,920 --> 00:54:56,320
Speaker 20: I know they've got problems.

1151
00:54:57,680 --> 00:55:00,880
Speaker 4: The airport charges which have gone up.

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Speaker 20: Yeah, Auckland has especially. I know that that's still a

1153
00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:09,000
Speaker 20: huge amount of money, and some of the messaging is confusing.

1154
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Speaker 20: You know, in New Zealand said in there in the

1155
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Speaker 20: media release that one of the reasons that this experienced

1156
00:55:14,560 --> 00:55:16,680
Speaker 20: this loss is that travel demand is weak.

1157
00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:17,759
Speaker 21: Well it's not.

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Speaker 20: There's been about a two and a half percent drop

1159
00:55:20,080 --> 00:55:23,160
Speaker 20: in domestic travel, which isn't massive. But there was a

1160
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Speaker 20: story in January where a House of Travel said that

1161
00:55:26,320 --> 00:55:29,239
Speaker 20: New Zealand is a booking more international traps trips than

1162
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Speaker 20: ever and the demand is amongst the highest they've ever

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Speaker 20: had on record. This doesn't feel right. It steals like

1164
00:55:35,400 --> 00:55:39,080
Speaker 20: a poor management and a poor perception issue, as you

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00:55:39,160 --> 00:55:41,919
Speaker 20: said earlier, And yeah, I'm not feeling very confident about

1166
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Speaker 20: it at all.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, quite right. Okay, Now, home ownership, what do you

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00:55:45,440 --> 00:55:47,560
Speaker 4: think is going on here? Clear Why don't the women

1169
00:55:47,640 --> 00:55:48,920
Speaker 4: own as many properties as the men?

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Speaker 3: Well, I don't think it's handbags, And I don't know

1171
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Speaker 3: many people buying eight.

1172
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Speaker 4: Thousand bags lipster can make up shoe.

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Speaker 3: I thought that was just such a dable nonsense. I mean,

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00:56:01,400 --> 00:56:04,000
Speaker 3: women do actually have some extra costs in life, let's

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Speaker 3: just face it. Going a long the way, but I mean,

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00:56:07,239 --> 00:56:09,920
Speaker 3: clearly it's to do with not earning the same amount

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Speaker 3: of money, probably lack of encouragement from the get go,

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Speaker 3: you know, not being given perhaps some of the financial

1179
00:56:17,560 --> 00:56:21,160
Speaker 3: boosts that some lads are getting from the parents or whatever.

1180
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Speaker 3: And I also do think that the impetus to get

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00:56:25,040 --> 00:56:27,719
Speaker 3: this financial literacy in front of kids really early, just

1182
00:56:27,840 --> 00:56:30,200
Speaker 3: so that they know they have to save if they're

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00:56:30,200 --> 00:56:33,799
Speaker 3: going to spend, and really encouraging them. But I also,

1184
00:56:34,040 --> 00:56:37,600
Speaker 3: you know, there's so many more layers than the survey addresses.

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00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:41,320
Speaker 3: I mean, And also it is ridiculous to think of

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00:56:41,920 --> 00:56:44,120
Speaker 3: some of the demographic they're talking about. These are kids

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Speaker 3: thirteen to like twenty nine or whatever. Yeah, yeah, which

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Speaker 3: thirteen year olds are buying a house?

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Speaker 4: Which twenty nine year olds are buying a house? Not

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Speaker 4: very many either no, Ellie, I tell you what I thought.

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Speaker 4: It was fascinating about it, though, was the number of

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Speaker 4: the proportion of men who said they just didn't know

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Speaker 4: how to even start the process much smaller at six

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00:57:01,200 --> 00:57:03,759
Speaker 4: percent than women at sixteen percent. Why do women not

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Speaker 4: understand finance like men?

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Speaker 18: Like?

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Speaker 4: What's going on?

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Speaker 20: I think you're you're making an assumption. That bit of

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Speaker 20: information was quite telling.

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Speaker 19: You know, of course, a lack of knowledge is going

1201
00:57:12,760 --> 00:57:13,239
Speaker 19: to be a.

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Speaker 20: Factor when people are buying a property. But you know,

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Speaker 20: sixteen percent of women reckon they didn't know where or

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Speaker 20: how to start compete with six percent of men.

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Speaker 18: It's rubbish.

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Speaker 20: I think it's more a reflection of men thinking they

1207
00:57:23,760 --> 00:57:26,240
Speaker 20: know more than they do and women not backing themselves.

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Speaker 4: Oh men just all meantime, men just telling FIBs to

1209
00:57:29,640 --> 00:57:32,120
Speaker 4: look like they know something. Absolutely.

1210
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Speaker 20: It's that whole thing about yeah, I know what I'm

1211
00:57:34,240 --> 00:57:36,680
Speaker 20: doing and I can do this job, and women going, oh,

1212
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Speaker 20: I don't think I can do that.

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Speaker 4: I've got allie, I think got two blokes in the

1214
00:57:40,920 --> 00:57:43,560
Speaker 4: control room who are one hundred percent in agreement with this.

1215
00:57:43,880 --> 00:57:46,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, men blagging their way into jobs that women would

1216
00:57:46,680 --> 00:57:49,160
Speaker 3: say I'm not qualified for and men going.

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Speaker 4: Hey, I'm the one. I'm gladly sorted that out of Allie. Yeah,

1218
00:57:53,200 --> 00:57:55,640
Speaker 4: you nailed it, Alie nailed it. All Right, We'll take

1219
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Speaker 4: a break, come back shortly.

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Speaker 2: The huddle with New Zealand South International Realty, the only

1221
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Speaker 2: truly global brand.

1222
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Speaker 4: Right, You're back with the huddle Claire Delaor and Allie Jones. Now, Claire,

1223
00:58:07,280 --> 00:58:10,000
Speaker 4: Ali would like to talk about why we all have

1224
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Speaker 4: Justinda derangement syndrome. So I'm going to open the floor

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Speaker 4: to you. Claire.

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Speaker 3: Well, I don't know if everyone has it. You know,

1227
00:58:16,720 --> 00:58:19,160
Speaker 3: I know that you think your your lovely husband has

1228
00:58:19,200 --> 00:58:22,800
Speaker 3: Trump arrangement does absolutely and by implication then I probably

1229
00:58:22,840 --> 00:58:24,520
Speaker 3: have it too, because I tend to agree with him.

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Speaker 3: Is this apropos the fact that Jasinda's moving to Sydney, Yeah,

1231
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Speaker 3: and I a discussion. I do think that if she's

1232
00:58:31,200 --> 00:58:34,280
Speaker 3: moving to Sydney because she's getting good opportunities there for

1233
00:58:34,360 --> 00:58:36,280
Speaker 3: herself and her family, I think that's a good thing.

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Speaker 3: I think if she feels she cannot return to New Zealand,

1235
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Speaker 3: I do think that that is really very sad.

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00:58:44,920 --> 00:58:46,880
Speaker 4: But I feel that tooth.

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00:58:47,400 --> 00:58:50,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel that because I think there is dned

1238
00:58:50,560 --> 00:58:53,600
Speaker 3: arrangement syndrome. There are people who have tipped into what

1239
00:58:53,680 --> 00:58:57,160
Speaker 3: I would call an irrational dislike and contempt for the woman.

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Speaker 4: I think so too, Ali, do you agree.

1241
00:59:00,160 --> 00:59:03,240
Speaker 20: I think maybe she's moving to Australia because the weather's better,

1242
00:59:03,400 --> 00:59:07,200
Speaker 20: food's cheaper. You know, some of the beaches are absolutely fabulous.

1243
00:59:07,240 --> 00:59:09,760
Speaker 20: So there'll be my family's there. I'm the only one

1244
00:59:09,840 --> 00:59:12,320
Speaker 20: left here now, and it's close enough to New Zealand

1245
00:59:12,360 --> 00:59:15,320
Speaker 20: to visit friends and family. There may be a little

1246
00:59:15,320 --> 00:59:16,360
Speaker 20: bit of that. I mean, she had a hell of

1247
00:59:16,400 --> 00:59:18,520
Speaker 20: a time here. I have to say, no one should

1248
00:59:18,560 --> 00:59:20,800
Speaker 20: have to go through what she went through. But maybe

1249
00:59:20,880 --> 00:59:24,280
Speaker 20: she's moving to Australia because she has great job opportunities,

1250
00:59:24,440 --> 00:59:26,680
Speaker 20: it's cheaper to live there, and the weather's better.

1251
00:59:26,840 --> 00:59:28,720
Speaker 4: I mean, let's be honest about it. She is going

1252
00:59:28,800 --> 00:59:31,280
Speaker 4: to Claire get better job opportunities in Australia than here,

1253
00:59:31,440 --> 00:59:33,400
Speaker 4: because I mean, what job do you give her here?

1254
00:59:33,800 --> 00:59:35,800
Speaker 3: Well, she doesn't get the back, she doesn't carry the

1255
00:59:35,840 --> 00:59:37,840
Speaker 3: baggage in Australia that she carries hair.

1256
00:59:38,000 --> 00:59:40,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, because any you could, you could give her a

1257
00:59:40,280 --> 00:59:41,840
Speaker 4: job here, but you're going to guarantee that there were

1258
00:59:41,880 --> 00:59:43,480
Speaker 4: a whole bunch of punters who will suddenly hate your

1259
00:59:43,560 --> 00:59:44,680
Speaker 4: organization as a result.

1260
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Speaker 3: I would say that also, probably the financial pressure isn't

1261
00:59:48,120 --> 00:59:50,280
Speaker 3: so great right now to go immediately into a job.

1262
00:59:50,640 --> 00:59:52,720
Speaker 3: I think she's probably done pretty much. He's a question

1263
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Speaker 3: for you, Claire.

1264
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Speaker 4: Do you think that the that the level of anger

1265
00:59:56,160 --> 00:59:58,600
Speaker 4: that people feel towards her is unwarranted?

1266
00:59:59,160 --> 01:00:02,920
Speaker 3: I do, why because it has tipped over into an

1267
01:00:03,000 --> 01:00:06,720
Speaker 3: unrational level in my view with some people. I do

1268
01:00:06,920 --> 01:00:11,800
Speaker 3: understand how very badly affected people were, particularly here in Auckland,

1269
01:00:11,880 --> 01:00:14,439
Speaker 3: and I don't think that was understood and I don't

1270
01:00:14,480 --> 01:00:16,520
Speaker 3: think there was enough by the government at the time.

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01:00:16,800 --> 01:00:19,440
Speaker 4: But it's more recent than that. See I reckon that

1272
01:00:19,560 --> 01:00:22,360
Speaker 4: there is a lot of new anger that has cropped

1273
01:00:22,400 --> 01:00:24,960
Speaker 4: up as a result of Jacinda and Chippy and those

1274
01:00:25,040 --> 01:00:28,600
Speaker 4: guys Grant refusing to appear before the Royal Commission when

1275
01:00:28,600 --> 01:00:30,800
Speaker 4: they were invited to yes, and that would have gone

1276
01:00:30,800 --> 01:00:32,760
Speaker 4: a long way to actually making people feel a little

1277
01:00:32,760 --> 01:00:34,520
Speaker 4: bit better about the situation. All that did was a

1278
01:00:34,600 --> 01:00:36,280
Speaker 4: just sparked anger all over again, and.

1279
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Speaker 3: I think they probably should have stummed up.

1280
01:00:38,440 --> 01:00:40,840
Speaker 4: I do agree with that. Yeah, okay, do you have anything.

1281
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Speaker 20: There's also a little bit of a tall poppy syndrome

1282
01:00:45,160 --> 01:00:47,200
Speaker 20: here to apart from the misogynism that we saw in

1283
01:00:47,280 --> 01:00:51,320
Speaker 20: the misogynistic behavior, I mean it was aimed at her

1284
01:00:51,400 --> 01:00:54,360
Speaker 20: because she is a woman, but also she's done well overseas,

1285
01:00:54,640 --> 01:00:57,200
Speaker 20: you know the movie The Baby. Now she's going to Australia.

1286
01:00:57,440 --> 01:01:01,320
Speaker 20: People hate anyone doing well release speaking, and.

1287
01:01:02,840 --> 01:01:05,160
Speaker 4: What is going on here is that people are cross

1288
01:01:05,360 --> 01:01:08,640
Speaker 4: that she is making good coin of the decisions that

1289
01:01:08,760 --> 01:01:11,640
Speaker 4: she made about this country and that she and frankly

1290
01:01:11,720 --> 01:01:15,000
Speaker 4: some of those decisions ruined people's businesses. And yet there

1291
01:01:15,160 --> 01:01:17,560
Speaker 4: and so there's no accountability, right, So she's off making

1292
01:01:17,680 --> 01:01:20,520
Speaker 4: wonderful coin in a great career and refusing to be

1293
01:01:20,560 --> 01:01:22,520
Speaker 4: held accountable and come back at the Royal Commission. I

1294
01:01:22,560 --> 01:01:25,320
Speaker 4: think that that's a reasonable I think people reasonably can

1295
01:01:25,400 --> 01:01:26,440
Speaker 4: be upset about that.

1296
01:01:27,240 --> 01:01:29,640
Speaker 20: I think that's an element of it. I wouldn't disagree

1297
01:01:29,680 --> 01:01:31,800
Speaker 20: with that, But I also think we have a terrible tool.

1298
01:01:31,840 --> 01:01:34,440
Speaker 20: Poppy syndrome issoe in New Zealand and I think that

1299
01:01:34,560 --> 01:01:37,240
Speaker 20: just Sindra are doing is absolutely ideal for people to

1300
01:01:37,680 --> 01:01:38,720
Speaker 20: point the finger at here on that.

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01:01:38,880 --> 01:01:42,200
Speaker 4: Okay, now on the AI clap, do you have a

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Speaker 4: problem if Nicola uses AI for the speeches.

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Speaker 1: No, not at all.

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Speaker 3: I do have a problem with AI apparently having contempt

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Speaker 3: for we're humans occasionally write things. It believes that we

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Speaker 3: can't construct a grammatical.

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Speaker 4: Because because what it's said is that this must be

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Speaker 4: AI because it's too because it's actually grammatical. It I mean,

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Speaker 4: it has contempt for us. Yes, that's a bit of

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Speaker 4: a must developed that don't agree Nicola. Probably to be fair, though, Ali,

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Speaker 4: Nicola would have a better grammatic understanding of grammar than

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Speaker 4: the average punter, wouldn't she.

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Speaker 20: Yep, with those of us who've got eighty six percent

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Speaker 20: for school Certinglish if you remember what school said English is.

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Speaker 20: Although I feel like Kay, I feel to be malign.

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Speaker 4: 's and I think the AI is bothering her phone line.

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Speaker 3: The AI does not like being slacked off.

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Speaker 4: AI is so cross with you. It's got into your

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Speaker 4: phone and we can't understand you said you. In fact,

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Speaker 4: Ali sound like you've co opted AI to do the huddle,

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Speaker 4: but AI.

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Speaker 3: Can have it can be stumped though, because I put

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Speaker 3: into chat GPT. Can you compose a two hundred and

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Speaker 3: seventy word political speech to persuade people to take part

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Speaker 3: in the twenty twenty six general election. And it came

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Speaker 3: back because that's the length of the Gettysburg Address, one

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Speaker 3: of the my famous speeches in history, and it came back.

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Speaker 12: I cannot compose a political speech.

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Speaker 3: It was very indignant.

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Speaker 7: Being asked to.

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Speaker 4: Dirty your AI is no good, guys, It's lovely.

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Speaker 1: Check to the pair of you.

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Speaker 4: Thank you for coming in, Claire. That's clar to Law

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Speaker 4: and Alie Jones a huddle this evening. Eight away from six.

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Speaker 2: It's the Heather Duper c Allen Drive Full Show podcast

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Speaker 2: on my Heart Radio powered by News Talk ZB.

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Speaker 4: Right on here. There nothing to do with being a woman.

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Speaker 4: She was certainly no tall poppy. She was simply not

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Speaker 4: qualified to be the prime minister, and she proved it

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Speaker 4: in spades. Thank you, Andrew. Five away from six. Now listen,

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Speaker 4: I've got a warning. There's a bunch of stupid stuff

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01:03:31,320 --> 01:03:33,160
Speaker 4: that's going on at council level, but I think this

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Speaker 4: is probably the worst. I sort of tossed it up.

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Speaker 4: I was like, am I going to talk about what's

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Speaker 4: going on here? Or am I going to talk about

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Speaker 4: what's going on in Hastings because both of them seem

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Speaker 4: equally daft. But I do think South Way Kato South

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Speaker 4: Wai Kato Council takes it out. So this is a

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Speaker 4: saga that involves the mayor, Gary Petley and a councilor,

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Speaker 4: zed La Tinovitch. Now what happened is the mayor was

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Speaker 4: on Facebook over summer, which is your first mistake. What

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Speaker 4: are you doing on face? You're a fully grown human,

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Speaker 4: Why are you on social media?

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Speaker 7: Get off?

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Speaker 4: But anyway, he was on Facebook over summer and someone

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Speaker 4: was making some comments about the council spending money on

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Speaker 4: the Talkodor indoor pools and how they were going to

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Speaker 4: blow their budget, and he didn't like it, and so

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Speaker 4: he replied to the person that they were full of

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Speaker 4: and at that point he put the emoji of a

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Speaker 4: pile of pooh, so you know what that means. So anyway,

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Speaker 4: Latinovich old Z complains about it and he made a

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Speaker 4: formal Code of Conduct complaint. He then as a result

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Speaker 4: of that, the council then gets in an independent investigator,

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Speaker 4: Mark Abbott. Mark Abbot spends some time looking into this.

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Speaker 4: I know, like, what can you say? Mark Abbott then

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Speaker 4: spends time looking into that literally the poe emoji poo emoji.

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Speaker 4: He then rules the mayor's comments were considered to be

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Speaker 4: unprofessional and ruled that the mayor has to issue a

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Speaker 4: public apology drafted by the council's communication manager noting the

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Speaker 4: inappropriateness of his communication and correspondence. The cost of this

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Speaker 4: Mark Abbott investigation and every other thing that's going on

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01:04:54,640 --> 01:04:57,960
Speaker 4: is four thousand, three hundred and twelve dollars. Now this

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Speaker 4: is embarrassing, isn't it. Z needs to grow up and

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Speaker 4: stop complaining about Pooh. Don't run to mommy and Daddy

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Speaker 4: every time somebody does a Poe emoji. Also, the council

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Speaker 4: needs to stop spending money on stupid stuff like reports

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Speaker 4: like this, because they just put up rates by eight

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Speaker 4: point nine percent this year, and I feel like, you know,

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Speaker 4: if councils carry on doing stupid stuff like this, they

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Speaker 4: are making a case for getting rid of counsels. Once

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Speaker 4: the regional council stuff is done, by the way, incidently,

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Speaker 4: is what's going to happen, so you won't have to

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Speaker 4: deal with with Z and his complaints for much longer.

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Speaker 4: Lord Above sky TV is with us next Newstik TV.

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Speaker 2: What Quick Business Meets Insight The Business Hour with Heather Duplessy,

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Speaker 2: Allen and Ma's insurance and investments, Your futures in good hands.

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Speaker 1: US talksb.

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Speaker 4: Evening coming up for the next hour, Jamie McKay on

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Speaker 4: how well Dairy's going at the moment, Federated on how

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Speaker 4: much they want to be friends with labor again, and

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Speaker 4: end de Brady on the speaker in the UK tipping

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Speaker 4: off the cops on Peter Mandelson right now, it's seven

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Speaker 4: past six now. Sky TV has posted a nineteen point

1395
01:06:10,920 --> 01:06:14,520
Speaker 4: three million dollar after tax profit, but it says economic

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01:06:14,600 --> 01:06:17,720
Speaker 4: conditions remain challenging. Its revenue is boosted by buying three

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Speaker 4: for one dollar. The chief executive is Sophie Maloney. High Sophie, Hi,

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Speaker 4: that how are you doing. I'm well, thank you. You've

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Speaker 4: got to be happy with how this has been received.

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Speaker 4: I see your shares have bumped up today.

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Speaker 22: Yeah, a lot, we are. It's been a lot of

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Speaker 22: hard work, but I'm really happy to be sharing the

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Speaker 22: strong results and in particular for our shareholders, you know,

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01:06:35,880 --> 01:06:39,560
Speaker 22: uplifting our halfier dividend to the fifteen cents. So yeah,

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Speaker 22: a lot of work still to come, but but yeah,

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Speaker 22: really happy with the result.

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Speaker 4: What are you worrying about? What is the warning in

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Speaker 4: the economy.

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Speaker 22: Look on the revenue side, the linear TV you know

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Speaker 22: isn't is a lot softer than we thought it was

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Speaker 22: going to be. And also, you know, we know that

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Speaker 22: key we are still struggling with cost of living and

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Speaker 22: so we're really mindful of that. We have a team

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Speaker 22: who are who are all here trying to deliver the

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Speaker 22: best value. But I am you know, it's the concerns

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Speaker 22: that we always thought there might be some green shoots,

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Speaker 22: but now we're looking at an election year and the

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Speaker 22: uncertainty that that brings. So we've guided you know, our

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Speaker 22: full year guidance on the revenue side takes that into account.

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Speaker 4: What is up with the linear advertising? What's going on there?

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Speaker 22: Loot It's good, it's a good question. I think that

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01:07:29,440 --> 01:07:33,040
Speaker 22: there's you know, we obviously bought TV three and three

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Speaker 22: now and we're going through that integration process, so we're

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Speaker 22: bringing the teams together. We're really excited about the advertiser

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Speaker 22: upfront that we hosted here in the week. The feedback's

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Speaker 22: been really positive, so I know the team will be

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Speaker 22: getting out there now to talk about the combined offer.

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Speaker 22: But so from our side, I think there's more to come,

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Speaker 22: and we need to make sure, we're communicating the benefits

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Speaker 22: of of TV advertising, particularly to build the power brands.

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Speaker 22: But my team is going to be working particularly in

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Speaker 22: Q fororder to see what we can do about that trend.

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Speaker 4: Is it an advertising problem across all forms of advertising

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Speaker 4: or specifically TV advertising.

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Speaker 22: Look, my view of what we're seeing is that we've

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Speaker 22: seen that radio is performing well, so that's good, But yeah,

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Speaker 22: the TV side does seem to be suffering a bit

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Speaker 22: more than others. So I do think it's incumbent on

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Speaker 22: us to make sure that we're talking about that value

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Speaker 22: and allowing clients to see the benefits because we're now

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Speaker 22: actually switching on the data that's fuelled our content deal

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Speaker 22: making to unleash that for advertising clients, So that means

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Speaker 22: we can be much more targeted and effective in what

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Speaker 22: we're delivering for clients right across the network.

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Speaker 4: Hey, that is a significant drop off in the number

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Speaker 4: of Neon customers. What's going on there?

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Speaker 22: Well, Look, I think that's as we talked about a

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Speaker 22: week or so ago. Yeah, those Neon numbers are not

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Speaker 22: where we want them to be. The content that we've

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Speaker 22: had isn't driving the right level of acquisition and tension

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01:09:00,600 --> 01:09:03,360
Speaker 22: and you know, hence are in a place of looking

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Speaker 22: to some new studio deals to fuel that pipeline and

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01:09:06,720 --> 01:09:08,840
Speaker 22: have a steady drum beat of titles that are that

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01:09:08,920 --> 01:09:12,120
Speaker 22: are broader appealing. So and there's also just the process

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Speaker 22: of making sure that Neon has a new glow. And

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Speaker 22: so that's what you're going to see from us in

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Speaker 22: the coming months and for the rest of the year.

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Speaker 22: And so certainly I'm hoping that we're going to see

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Speaker 22: that improve. It's certainly the lowest it's been since December

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Speaker 22: twenty twenty, so definitely definitely a place we needed to

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Speaker 22: take some action, and we are.

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Speaker 4: The reduction in the number of skybox customers is that

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Speaker 4: just the usual thing that happens when we have an

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Speaker 4: economic downturn, people start to cut the costs.

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Speaker 22: Look, I think there's a yeah, that definitely has an impact.

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Speaker 22: I think there are you know, customers are looking at

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Speaker 22: different choices. So we see skysport now has got great growth.

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Speaker 22: There will be some of that that's coming from the

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Speaker 22: box side of the business. And look, we've had a

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Speaker 22: pretty you know, had a bit of a tricky last

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Speaker 22: year or so when we had Project Migro right that

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Speaker 22: disrupted our skybox business quite significantly. We've come through that

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Speaker 22: and I'm so I'm I'm looking forward to there being

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Speaker 22: a slowing of that decline. To be honest, I think

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Speaker 22: we can you know, nurture customers through But but yes,

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01:10:15,760 --> 01:10:18,320
Speaker 22: the economy certainly does have an impact where as customers

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Speaker 22: make tough choices.

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Speaker 4: Are you going to be affected in any way by

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Speaker 4: the Paramount Netflix Warner Brothers deal?

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Speaker 22: Well, not in the not in the near term, I

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Speaker 22: mean whichever way it goes. Actually, even in the longer run. No,

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Speaker 22: because there's a plethora of studios that we can work with.

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Speaker 22: The great thing about our new entertainment strategy is that

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Speaker 22: we've got the financial flexibility to go after individual titles

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Speaker 22: with the backbone of the paramount deal. But you know,

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Speaker 22: there are other big studios out there that we have

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Speaker 22: relationships with, and including Sony, NBC Universal. So no, in

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Speaker 22: the longer run, we'll wait to see with interest. I

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Speaker 22: think it's going to be you know, a long time

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Speaker 22: before there is clarity on that. And New Zealand is

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Speaker 22: at the bottom of the world, Heather and those studio

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Speaker 22: deals they're made and made up in the North America,

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Speaker 22: and it takes a little while to trickle down to

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Speaker 22: this part of the world.

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Speaker 4: Now, I've got a suggestion for your viewing suggestion, but

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Speaker 4: having given your position in the company, I think you

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Speaker 4: might have already watched it. And my disclaimer is Sophie

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01:11:21,080 --> 01:11:23,360
Speaker 4: that I haven't watched this, but everybody else has. Have

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Speaker 4: you watched Heated Rivalry?

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Speaker 22: I had watched the first episode, And why.

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Speaker 4: Did you bail out? Is it because the acting is

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Speaker 4: that bad?

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Speaker 18: No?

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Speaker 22: I just to be honest, I haven't been able to

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Speaker 22: watch anything of late because it's been incredibly busy and

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01:11:39,520 --> 01:11:42,640
Speaker 22: sport is back and so you know, I do have

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01:11:42,760 --> 01:11:47,000
Speaker 22: to say four KUHC with Super Rugby has been pretty fabulous,

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Speaker 22: but of course we've got our worry is coming back.

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Speaker 22: So I had one recommendation for you. Thank you for

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Speaker 22: the Heated Rivalry one. It's called The Lady.

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Speaker 4: Do you know what actually, Sophie, I was looking at

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Speaker 4: that and I was going to ask you if that's

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Speaker 4: any good, But I thought, this is not the kind

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Speaker 4: of crap that Sophie watches stuff about people will do

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Speaker 4: Royal's hair.

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Speaker 22: No, well, she's the yeah royal dresser, so is Sarah Ferguson.

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01:12:10,240 --> 01:12:11,800
Speaker 22: So apparently it's bad.

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01:12:12,160 --> 01:12:13,200
Speaker 18: So I'm gonna I'm going.

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Speaker 22: To recommend it and maybe try and watch the thirst

1520
01:12:14,960 --> 01:12:16,559
Speaker 22: episode of that this weekend too.

1521
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Speaker 4: All right, Sophie, thank you for the tip. Appreciate it,

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01:12:18,840 --> 01:12:21,560
Speaker 4: Sophie Maloney's go I TV chief executive. I think that

1523
01:12:21,680 --> 01:12:23,280
Speaker 4: only came out a couple of days ago as well.

1524
01:12:23,400 --> 01:12:26,559
Speaker 4: So that's hot off the present. That'll get your subscribing again,

1525
01:12:26,600 --> 01:12:30,479
Speaker 4: won't it? On Heated Rivalry? By the way, you absolute perv.

1526
01:12:31,760 --> 01:12:34,360
Speaker 4: You can if you enjoyed the show now Airbnb the

1527
01:12:34,439 --> 01:12:36,680
Speaker 4: cottage where they hook up in their final siri in

1528
01:12:36,760 --> 01:12:39,040
Speaker 4: the final episode, and don't pretend you don't know what

1529
01:12:39,479 --> 01:12:41,400
Speaker 4: I don't know what I'm talking about. Is Alam watched it,

1530
01:12:41,520 --> 01:12:43,320
Speaker 4: but you know what I'm talking about because you have.

1531
01:12:43,800 --> 01:12:45,680
Speaker 4: But unfortunately for you, of course, you have to fly

1532
01:12:45,800 --> 01:12:47,160
Speaker 4: to Canada if you want to do this place as

1533
01:12:47,160 --> 01:12:50,000
Speaker 4: in Ontario. It's not that expensive. Actually, if you're going

1534
01:12:50,040 --> 01:12:52,200
Speaker 4: all the way there and it appears you would have

1535
01:12:52,280 --> 01:12:55,240
Speaker 4: to probably make your trip for May. You could get

1536
01:12:55,280 --> 01:12:57,720
Speaker 4: it at the weekends for three hundred and two New

1537
01:12:57,840 --> 01:13:01,560
Speaker 4: Zealand dollars a night, and then you can they're Relivir

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01:13:01,920 --> 01:13:05,599
Speaker 4: Relivia show. I suppose hither I'm loving the Newsreader. How

1539
01:13:05,680 --> 01:13:06,560
Speaker 4: far are you through it?

1540
01:13:06,640 --> 01:13:06,760
Speaker 15: Now?

1541
01:13:08,479 --> 01:13:12,600
Speaker 4: I have got one more episode to go, and I

1542
01:13:12,800 --> 01:13:15,479
Speaker 4: am loving the Newsreader. I know Ollie Peterson has been

1543
01:13:15,520 --> 01:13:17,840
Speaker 4: a dick about it, but I am loving the Newsreader

1544
01:13:17,960 --> 01:13:20,240
Speaker 4: more at the end of The Newsreader at the end

1545
01:13:20,240 --> 01:13:21,840
Speaker 4: of season three than I did at the very start.

1546
01:13:21,920 --> 01:13:25,479
Speaker 4: Like it just gets better and better and better because

1547
01:13:25,520 --> 01:13:28,040
Speaker 4: Helen's got it together now, she's pulled her life together.

1548
01:13:28,439 --> 01:13:32,080
Speaker 4: Dale's life is falling apart, which was obviously gonna happen. Lindsey,

1549
01:13:32,160 --> 01:13:35,880
Speaker 4: because he's the bad guy, survives like all bad guys do. Obviously,

1550
01:13:35,960 --> 01:13:37,599
Speaker 4: old mate, what's his name? Dennis?

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01:13:38,000 --> 01:13:38,120
Speaker 11: Who?

1552
01:13:38,200 --> 01:13:38,479
Speaker 7: Actually?

1553
01:13:38,640 --> 01:13:38,800
Speaker 1: Do you know?

1554
01:13:38,840 --> 01:13:40,559
Speaker 4: How many of these people are key actors, But Dennis

1555
01:13:40,600 --> 01:13:42,800
Speaker 4: is a key reactor. He should be promoted. He's not

1556
01:13:42,880 --> 01:13:47,519
Speaker 4: being promoted. Narls is being hard done by Stephen Peacock's characters.

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01:13:47,640 --> 01:13:51,960
Speaker 4: Just oh, go and go and watch the Newsreader. My

1558
01:13:52,080 --> 01:13:53,800
Speaker 4: husband and I were talking about it this morning. We

1559
01:13:53,880 --> 01:13:55,920
Speaker 4: were saying to each other, like we do basically all

1560
01:13:55,960 --> 01:13:58,679
Speaker 4: the time, there is no show that we have watched

1561
01:13:58,720 --> 01:14:01,799
Speaker 4: that it is more true to working in a television

1562
01:14:01,840 --> 01:14:04,720
Speaker 4: newsroom than The news Reader. All of the stuff that

1563
01:14:04,760 --> 01:14:07,479
Speaker 4: you see is entirely plausible. Quarter past six.

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Speaker 2: It's the Heather Duplicy Allen Drive Full Show podcast on

1565
01:14:12,240 --> 01:14:17,759
Speaker 2: my Heart Radio powered by Newstalks edbb crouching the numbers

1566
01:14:17,960 --> 01:14:21,000
Speaker 2: and getting the results. It's Heather Duplicy Allen on the

1567
01:14:21,160 --> 01:14:25,200
Speaker 2: Business Hour with MAS Insurance and Investments, Your futures in

1568
01:14:25,439 --> 01:14:27,720
Speaker 2: good Hands, News Talks edb So.

1569
01:14:27,800 --> 01:14:30,240
Speaker 4: Wayne Langford, this is feder out of Armers. Wayne Langford

1570
01:14:30,280 --> 01:14:32,639
Speaker 4: has has got great things to say about Chris Hepkins,

1571
01:14:32,720 --> 01:14:35,080
Speaker 4: great things to say about the AG spokesperson at Labor

1572
01:14:35,200 --> 01:14:37,519
Speaker 4: Joe Luxton. I have a chat to him after six

1573
01:14:37,520 --> 01:14:39,680
Speaker 4: point thirty about what he's seeing there. If you've seen

1574
01:14:39,680 --> 01:14:40,960
Speaker 4: a little bit of a change in attitude from the

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01:14:41,000 --> 01:14:43,240
Speaker 4: Labor Party. Right now, it's eighteen past six.

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01:14:45,040 --> 01:14:48,200
Speaker 1: The Rural Report on Heather Duplicy Allen Drive.

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01:14:48,520 --> 01:14:50,160
Speaker 4: Jamie mckaie, Hosts of the Countries with Us.

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01:14:50,200 --> 01:14:52,080
Speaker 1: Hello Jamie, Hello Heather.

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Speaker 21: When you've got yolo Wayne Langford on ask him if

1580
01:14:54,840 --> 01:14:57,679
Speaker 21: he's going to stand for Labor in the current election

1581
01:14:57,840 --> 01:15:00,280
Speaker 21: on the West Coast Tasman seat.

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01:15:01,800 --> 01:15:05,680
Speaker 4: West Coast Tasman Seat. Labor done, consider it done. But

1583
01:15:05,760 --> 01:15:07,280
Speaker 4: now you've given him a warning because he will be

1584
01:15:07,360 --> 01:15:08,240
Speaker 4: listening to you right now.

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01:15:08,479 --> 01:15:10,679
Speaker 21: Well, no, no, I mean it was all the talk

1586
01:15:10,760 --> 01:15:14,040
Speaker 21: at the National LAMB Day barbecue. Look, I think he's been,

1587
01:15:14,160 --> 01:15:17,760
Speaker 21: to be honest, very capable bloke, smart guy. I think

1588
01:15:17,800 --> 01:15:20,920
Speaker 21: he's been courted by several parties. But you know, I

1589
01:15:21,120 --> 01:15:24,280
Speaker 21: call it what he's at at the moment, the sleepover,

1590
01:15:24,479 --> 01:15:28,719
Speaker 21: the pajama party, the love and with Federated Farmers and labor.

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01:15:28,760 --> 01:15:30,600
Speaker 21: This has been going for two or three years, and

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01:15:31,000 --> 01:15:34,520
Speaker 21: to be fair to Joe Luxton, who's their agg spokesperson,

1593
01:15:34,560 --> 01:15:37,600
Speaker 21: I think it's positive that they're making overtures towards the

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01:15:38,120 --> 01:15:41,000
Speaker 21: farming community. And I'll be interested to see what comes

1595
01:15:41,040 --> 01:15:43,439
Speaker 21: out of the wash from the pajama party.

1596
01:15:43,800 --> 01:15:46,400
Speaker 4: In the pajama buddy, Lord of have we got too

1597
01:15:46,479 --> 01:15:47,639
Speaker 4: much grass in the country?

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Speaker 21: Ah Well, there's an old saying here. There're a farmer

1599
01:15:51,800 --> 01:15:54,080
Speaker 21: with grass and his paddick and a dollar in his

1600
01:15:54,200 --> 01:15:56,920
Speaker 21: pocket can be a dangerous beast. And it's kind of

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01:15:57,000 --> 01:15:58,960
Speaker 21: what's happening in the meat industry at the moment. And

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01:15:59,360 --> 01:16:02,000
Speaker 21: you know, it's all well, it's nearly all good news

1603
01:16:02,080 --> 01:16:04,559
Speaker 21: unless you're a meat process. So they're steal a squealing

1604
01:16:04,640 --> 01:16:07,000
Speaker 21: like a stock perg at the moment because they reckon

1605
01:16:07,120 --> 01:16:10,679
Speaker 21: that with the current prices is unsustainable. But because especially

1606
01:16:10,760 --> 01:16:14,040
Speaker 21: in the North Island where you were getting dry before Christmas,

1607
01:16:14,120 --> 01:16:16,679
Speaker 21: we've had rain, far too much rain in some areas,

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01:16:16,720 --> 01:16:20,920
Speaker 21: but basically the whole country is good in terms of grass.

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01:16:21,280 --> 01:16:23,200
Speaker 21: So farmer is what they're doing here there is they're

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Speaker 21: hanging on to stock longer. Why wouldn't you at eleven

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01:16:26,320 --> 01:16:29,280
Speaker 21: dollars a kilo for lamb, put another couple of kilos

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01:16:29,320 --> 01:16:31,679
Speaker 21: on your lamb. It goes on to your bottom line,

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01:16:31,760 --> 01:16:34,439
Speaker 21: so that the meat companies are having a real battle.

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01:16:34,640 --> 01:16:38,360
Speaker 21: They're having to work short weeks. There is procurement pressure

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Speaker 21: on to get the stock that's available. Just to give

1616
01:16:41,640 --> 01:16:44,599
Speaker 21: you the numbers, up till the end of January, we'd

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01:16:44,640 --> 01:16:49,439
Speaker 21: only killed six and a quarter million lambs of a

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01:16:49,520 --> 01:16:52,400
Speaker 21: total of seventeen million that's available, So we've obviously had

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Speaker 21: nearly a month's killing since then or processing. I better

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01:16:56,120 --> 01:16:58,719
Speaker 21: b TC on that one. So we're not even halfway

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01:16:58,800 --> 01:17:01,519
Speaker 21: through the season, and yet look the forecast is good.

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01:17:01,560 --> 01:17:04,800
Speaker 21: They dropped the schedule a wee bit last week by

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Speaker 21: ten cents of kilo, the first decline since Christmas. They

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Speaker 21: don't normally, I mean they normally do this. Once we

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01:17:11,479 --> 01:17:15,320
Speaker 21: get past Christmas, the lamb schedule drops. But forecasting is

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Speaker 21: it for to maybe a call its heels a webit

1627
01:17:18,120 --> 01:17:20,280
Speaker 21: go down a webit. But then we get near at

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Speaker 21: the end of the season, that pressure comes on again

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01:17:23,360 --> 01:17:25,960
Speaker 21: for stock procurement and we have a good old fashioned

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Speaker 21: procurement war amongst the meat companies.

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Speaker 4: It sounds great.

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Speaker 19: I love it.

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Speaker 4: Thank you very much, Jamie, look up yourself, Jamie McKay,

1634
01:17:31,720 --> 01:17:34,880
Speaker 4: Host of the Country. Here the speaking of pooh. Did

1635
01:17:34,920 --> 01:17:36,760
Speaker 4: you see Andrew Little come out from his swim at

1636
01:17:36,800 --> 01:17:38,360
Speaker 4: Lyle Bay with a bit of Pooh on his head?

1637
01:17:39,000 --> 01:17:41,240
Speaker 4: Thank you for raising that because I did, and I

1638
01:17:41,400 --> 01:17:43,400
Speaker 4: was slightly concerned about this was on the Tally News

1639
01:17:43,479 --> 01:17:46,519
Speaker 4: last night. Turns out it wasn't pooh. It was seaweed.

1640
01:17:46,840 --> 01:17:49,320
Speaker 4: And we've established that by having a closer look at it.

1641
01:17:49,400 --> 01:17:51,720
Speaker 4: It is one hundred percent a piece of seaweed. He

1642
01:17:52,000 --> 01:17:55,200
Speaker 4: also says he is still okay, he's still doing well,

1643
01:17:56,040 --> 01:18:00,280
Speaker 4: no adverse symptoms. Health is fine. So and and the

1644
01:18:00,360 --> 01:18:02,680
Speaker 4: things that you generally get from consuming pooh in the

1645
01:18:02,720 --> 01:18:05,800
Speaker 4: water would hit you pretty fast. So I think, I mean,

1646
01:18:06,080 --> 01:18:09,799
Speaker 4: obviously he might still get conjunctivitis or like an ear infection,

1647
01:18:10,120 --> 01:18:12,000
Speaker 4: do you know what I mean, Like something like that.

1648
01:18:12,760 --> 01:18:16,200
Speaker 4: That's entirely possible. But any of the big ones that

1649
01:18:16,320 --> 01:18:20,200
Speaker 4: lay you low, he's okay, thank god. Six twenty two.

1650
01:18:21,240 --> 01:18:24,760
Speaker 2: Whether it's macro, micro or just plain economics, it's all

1651
01:18:24,960 --> 01:18:28,400
Speaker 2: on the Business hour with and the dupiclur and MAS

1652
01:18:28,479 --> 01:18:33,240
Speaker 2: insurance and investments. Your futures in good hands. US talks envy.

1653
01:18:34,280 --> 01:18:36,920
Speaker 4: Six twenty five. Federated Farmers, as we've said, is with

1654
01:18:37,080 --> 01:18:39,960
Speaker 4: us after the half past six news turns out if

1655
01:18:40,040 --> 01:18:43,519
Speaker 4: you were one of those Epstein files conspiracy theorists who

1656
01:18:43,560 --> 01:18:45,880
Speaker 4: think that Donald Trump is in the files, they are

1657
01:18:45,880 --> 01:18:49,320
Speaker 4: actually right. Donald Trump is in the Epstein files, as

1658
01:18:49,400 --> 01:18:52,560
Speaker 4: you know, but it hasn't been released. So just to

1659
01:18:52,800 --> 01:18:55,439
Speaker 4: because this has become an incredibly complicated situation, let me

1660
01:18:55,520 --> 01:18:57,479
Speaker 4: just run you through how this works. Okay, So the

1661
01:18:57,640 --> 01:19:01,040
Speaker 4: Epstein files have been released and somewhere held back, and

1662
01:19:01,160 --> 01:19:03,519
Speaker 4: then more were released recently, which has caused all the

1663
01:19:03,600 --> 01:19:06,160
Speaker 4: kerfuffle that's going on at the moment, but some were

1664
01:19:06,200 --> 01:19:09,840
Speaker 4: still held back, and it's like it's quite a lot.

1665
01:19:09,960 --> 01:19:12,639
Speaker 4: It's a few million. According to a couple of media

1666
01:19:12,680 --> 01:19:15,920
Speaker 4: outlets in the States, being The New York Times in NPR.

1667
01:19:16,080 --> 01:19:17,840
Speaker 4: Some of the files that have been held back do

1668
01:19:18,040 --> 01:19:21,479
Speaker 4: contain allegations about Donald Trump from a woman who claims

1669
01:19:21,479 --> 01:19:24,120
Speaker 4: that she was sexually assaulted by Donald Trump and also

1670
01:19:24,160 --> 01:19:27,080
Speaker 4: by Jeffrey Epstein a few decades ago when she was

1671
01:19:27,120 --> 01:19:29,920
Speaker 4: a minor. Now, how the media outlets are sure of

1672
01:19:30,040 --> 01:19:33,160
Speaker 4: this is that even though these files containing Donald Trump's

1673
01:19:33,200 --> 01:19:36,320
Speaker 4: name haven't been released, there is an index listing all

1674
01:19:36,400 --> 01:19:39,639
Speaker 4: of the files which has previously been released. And according

1675
01:19:39,680 --> 01:19:42,880
Speaker 4: to the index, the FBI conducted four interviews in connection

1676
01:19:43,000 --> 01:19:46,280
Speaker 4: with her claims, wrote summaries about each one. Only one

1677
01:19:46,320 --> 01:19:49,680
Speaker 4: of the summaries in which she describes her accusations against

1678
01:19:49,720 --> 01:19:53,360
Speaker 4: mister Epstein, were released. The other three are still missing.

1679
01:19:53,600 --> 01:20:01,880
Speaker 4: Six twenty six, There's no business like show business, So

1680
01:20:02,080 --> 01:20:04,559
Speaker 4: Louis Thereau is gearing up to take on his biggest

1681
01:20:04,600 --> 01:20:09,639
Speaker 4: target yet, toxic masculinity. His new documentary is titled Louis

1682
01:20:09,720 --> 01:20:12,599
Speaker 4: Thereaux Into the Manosphere, and it's coming to Netflix next month.

1683
01:20:12,720 --> 01:20:16,640
Speaker 4: The self proclaimed beta male one hundred percent, he has

1684
01:20:16,720 --> 01:20:20,320
Speaker 4: spent the last year following around male online influences to

1685
01:20:20,360 --> 01:20:22,679
Speaker 4: find out how they're shaping the attitudes of the boys,

1686
01:20:22,720 --> 01:20:24,200
Speaker 4: the gen Z and the jen l for boys.

1687
01:20:25,800 --> 01:20:27,720
Speaker 16: Do you consider yourself a misogynist?

1688
01:20:28,000 --> 01:20:30,080
Speaker 11: I love women and actually understand them.

1689
01:20:30,160 --> 01:20:31,479
Speaker 1: You think you do better than they do.

1690
01:20:31,840 --> 01:20:33,920
Speaker 4: They want to go they can lead them and dominate them.

1691
01:20:38,200 --> 01:20:40,280
Speaker 15: Got anything to say to the Love Throw Not really,

1692
01:20:40,360 --> 01:20:42,760
Speaker 15: But do you think Satanists are running the world.

1693
01:20:43,120 --> 01:20:46,000
Speaker 2: Absolutely, They're talking about misinformation on the internet.

1694
01:20:46,960 --> 01:20:48,200
Speaker 1: This is what they're talking.

1695
01:20:50,120 --> 01:20:52,040
Speaker 4: So Louis Thereau has managed to get on board some

1696
01:20:52,120 --> 01:20:56,639
Speaker 4: of the biggest names in male influencing. He's interviews interviewed Sneako, hs,

1697
01:20:56,720 --> 01:21:00,360
Speaker 4: Tiki Toki, and Myron Gains. Now, if you have heard

1698
01:21:00,400 --> 01:21:03,040
Speaker 4: of any of these people, that's exactly the problem, because

1699
01:21:03,080 --> 01:21:08,000
Speaker 4: your teenage sons definitely have. They're doing things like looksmaxing, Cortisol,

1700
01:21:08,120 --> 01:21:10,880
Speaker 4: spikes the eighty twenty Rule, and Louis Throw is promising

1701
01:21:10,920 --> 01:21:13,080
Speaker 4: to take a micro microscope to all of it in

1702
01:21:13,200 --> 01:21:16,320
Speaker 4: his usual style. If you want to take the red

1703
01:21:16,400 --> 01:21:18,200
Speaker 4: pill and you want to find out all about the

1704
01:21:18,240 --> 01:21:20,439
Speaker 4: content that your sons are being served on their social media,

1705
01:21:20,479 --> 01:21:23,200
Speaker 4: then you need to watch this Louis Throw into the Manisphere,

1706
01:21:23,680 --> 01:21:28,760
Speaker 4: which is coming out on Netflix March the eleventh. Good

1707
01:21:28,880 --> 01:21:31,960
Speaker 4: luck feder ad of Farmer's Next man mag them happy

1708
01:21:35,200 --> 01:21:37,120
Speaker 4: cause man Magnum times.

1709
01:21:39,680 --> 01:21:43,839
Speaker 6: And how commn magaverathing aver thing you can.

1710
01:21:46,080 --> 01:21:51,080
Speaker 2: Do everything from SMEs to the big corporates. The Business

1711
01:21:51,160 --> 01:21:55,120
Speaker 2: Hour with Heather Duplicy Allen and Mas Insurance and investments.

1712
01:21:55,360 --> 01:21:58,360
Speaker 1: Your futures in good heads used talks. It'd be.

1713
01:22:08,400 --> 01:22:10,080
Speaker 4: Bug in the Brady is going to be with us

1714
01:22:10,200 --> 01:22:12,040
Speaker 4: very shortly out of the UK right now it is

1715
01:22:12,080 --> 01:22:15,200
Speaker 4: twenty four away from seven now. Federated Farmers are hopeful

1716
01:22:15,240 --> 01:22:17,400
Speaker 4: that their relationship with the labour parties on the ment.

1717
01:22:17,479 --> 01:22:19,840
Speaker 4: Today the two of them met for their annual get together,

1718
01:22:19,920 --> 01:22:21,840
Speaker 4: with the farmers hoping to get some policy gains and

1719
01:22:21,920 --> 01:22:25,080
Speaker 4: Labor hoping for some good favor going into the election season.

1720
01:22:25,120 --> 01:22:29,519
Speaker 4: The Federated Farmer's National President is Wayne Langford. Hey, Wayne, Hey,

1721
01:22:29,960 --> 01:22:32,679
Speaker 4: how's it going good? Thanks? Do you get any policy

1722
01:22:32,680 --> 01:22:34,320
Speaker 4: out of the announcement out of the meeting?

1723
01:22:35,880 --> 01:22:39,400
Speaker 15: No policy today, you may have guessed that, But no

1724
01:22:39,520 --> 01:22:42,680
Speaker 15: policy that came out today. Some fairly solid discussion and

1725
01:22:42,760 --> 01:22:45,760
Speaker 15: dialogue that was good, but certainly no policy is what

1726
01:22:45,840 --> 01:22:49,599
Speaker 15: did you chat about? We were chatting about all things.

1727
01:22:49,680 --> 01:22:52,760
Speaker 15: Really there was a lot coming from their side around

1728
01:22:52,800 --> 01:22:56,280
Speaker 15: what they're working on. But then also you know what's

1729
01:22:56,280 --> 01:22:58,960
Speaker 15: happening in the farming sector as well. What we found

1730
01:22:59,000 --> 01:23:02,120
Speaker 15: during when they were and government, I last that there

1731
01:23:02,160 --> 01:23:03,840
Speaker 15: wasn't you know that they didn't know too much about

1732
01:23:03,880 --> 01:23:06,160
Speaker 15: farming to be fair, And what we've worked on over

1733
01:23:06,160 --> 01:23:08,640
Speaker 15: the last couple of years is increasing that knowledge of

1734
01:23:08,680 --> 01:23:10,560
Speaker 15: the of the farming sector and what we're doing in

1735
01:23:10,640 --> 01:23:11,160
Speaker 15: the egg space.

1736
01:23:11,640 --> 01:23:13,479
Speaker 4: So what is it that they said that they're working on.

1737
01:23:15,680 --> 01:23:18,200
Speaker 15: A Well, they said that they're working on all kinds

1738
01:23:18,240 --> 01:23:20,679
Speaker 15: of policies, and then I don't think they've I don't

1739
01:23:20,720 --> 01:23:22,760
Speaker 15: think I'm now down exactly where they are sitting on

1740
01:23:22,840 --> 01:23:24,880
Speaker 15: some of them. You know, obviously we would have liked

1741
01:23:24,880 --> 01:23:28,200
Speaker 15: to get into into fresh order into emissions policies, and

1742
01:23:28,360 --> 01:23:31,559
Speaker 15: also you know where they're ultimately getting up with the RMA,

1743
01:23:31,720 --> 01:23:35,200
Speaker 15: but you know from today's discussion, they're not there. They're

1744
01:23:35,520 --> 01:23:37,840
Speaker 15: not there yet or they're not willing to announce them

1745
01:23:37,880 --> 01:23:38,120
Speaker 15: just yet.

1746
01:23:38,160 --> 01:23:39,400
Speaker 22: Anyway, Yeah, what is your.

1747
01:23:39,360 --> 01:23:41,240
Speaker 4: What is what do you reckon if you had to

1748
01:23:41,320 --> 01:23:43,439
Speaker 4: take a bed? Are they not talking about their policy

1749
01:23:43,439 --> 01:23:45,000
Speaker 4: because they actually don't know what it's going to be?

1750
01:23:45,320 --> 01:23:47,400
Speaker 4: Or is it because they are just trying to keep

1751
01:23:47,439 --> 01:23:49,719
Speaker 4: it really close to their chest and surprise us closer

1752
01:23:49,760 --> 01:23:50,240
Speaker 4: to the election.

1753
01:23:51,479 --> 01:23:53,120
Speaker 15: I think we're a long way out from the election,

1754
01:23:53,280 --> 01:23:55,559
Speaker 15: and you know, they don't want to play their cards

1755
01:23:55,600 --> 01:23:58,360
Speaker 15: to really probably, you know, that's fair enough from their

1756
01:23:58,360 --> 01:24:00,640
Speaker 15: point of view. They're doing a pretty good job at

1757
01:24:00,680 --> 01:24:03,240
Speaker 15: the moment of flying under the radar and looking pretty

1758
01:24:03,240 --> 01:24:06,519
Speaker 15: safe and secure, and that's that is what they're done, so,

1759
01:24:07,520 --> 01:24:09,200
Speaker 15: you know, and that's how they're coming across I think.

1760
01:24:09,280 --> 01:24:11,320
Speaker 15: So I guess a credit to them for doing that.

1761
01:24:11,439 --> 01:24:12,920
Speaker 15: But at some stage they are going to have to

1762
01:24:13,720 --> 01:24:15,320
Speaker 15: put out a bit more policy than what they have

1763
01:24:15,439 --> 01:24:15,960
Speaker 15: done so far.

1764
01:24:16,120 --> 01:24:19,840
Speaker 4: Now, Wayne, under the last labor government of Jacinda and

1765
01:24:19,920 --> 01:24:22,880
Speaker 4: with Damien and with Chippy involved and with James Shaw,

1766
01:24:23,000 --> 01:24:25,200
Speaker 4: they gave you guys a hell of a time. Do

1767
01:24:25,280 --> 01:24:27,799
Speaker 4: you reckon that they've really changed their stripes.

1768
01:24:30,160 --> 01:24:32,200
Speaker 15: I think what was interesting when we came out of

1769
01:24:32,280 --> 01:24:33,800
Speaker 15: that and we first met with them, I say that

1770
01:24:33,840 --> 01:24:36,120
Speaker 15: we've been doing this now for three years. That first

1771
01:24:36,200 --> 01:24:39,160
Speaker 15: meeting three years ago, I remember that, you know, morning

1772
01:24:39,240 --> 01:24:41,439
Speaker 15: tea on that first day that we kind of changed

1773
01:24:41,439 --> 01:24:44,360
Speaker 15: the agenda almost because we realized the level that we

1774
01:24:44,479 --> 01:24:47,599
Speaker 15: were talking was quite different to the level that they

1775
01:24:47,640 --> 01:24:49,560
Speaker 15: were at, and we had to you know, just the

1776
01:24:49,600 --> 01:24:51,920
Speaker 15: conversation and really bring it back to just say, what

1777
01:24:52,120 --> 01:24:54,240
Speaker 15: is going on on the farm and what's the farmer's

1778
01:24:54,280 --> 01:24:57,439
Speaker 15: sentiment to where we are now where we're having quite

1779
01:24:57,479 --> 01:25:01,679
Speaker 15: detailed discussions around around methane, around farm planning and farm

1780
01:25:01,760 --> 01:25:03,439
Speaker 15: consents and all that sort of thing, you know, and

1781
01:25:03,520 --> 01:25:05,920
Speaker 15: they're fully across it. So like that's a credit to

1782
01:25:05,960 --> 01:25:08,080
Speaker 15: them for getting involved in getting and understanding it, and

1783
01:25:08,200 --> 01:25:10,120
Speaker 15: it's and it's been good from the primary sector to

1784
01:25:10,680 --> 01:25:12,320
Speaker 15: make sure that they know what we are talking about.

1785
01:25:12,320 --> 01:25:15,360
Speaker 4: Do you reckon understanding it though? I mean understanding it

1786
01:25:15,479 --> 01:25:19,560
Speaker 4: is good, but doesn't mean that they change their approach necessarily.

1787
01:25:21,880 --> 01:25:24,320
Speaker 15: I think I think what you know, one thing that

1788
01:25:24,400 --> 01:25:26,960
Speaker 15: we'll certainly portrayed is that they're going to need to

1789
01:25:27,000 --> 01:25:30,479
Speaker 15: put you know, change their approach because during the last

1790
01:25:30,520 --> 01:25:33,479
Speaker 15: government we saw farmer confidence strips drop to the last

1791
01:25:33,600 --> 01:25:36,800
Speaker 15: level that that we've ever seen since we've been recording it,

1792
01:25:37,160 --> 01:25:39,000
Speaker 15: and we just can't go back there. And as a

1793
01:25:39,040 --> 01:25:41,320
Speaker 15: farming body, you know, we certainly wouldn't be accepting it.

1794
01:25:41,479 --> 01:25:44,559
Speaker 15: So you know, we're, like I say, we've been having good,

1795
01:25:44,600 --> 01:25:46,439
Speaker 15: honest dialogue with them, saying, hey, if you go to

1796
01:25:46,520 --> 01:25:48,360
Speaker 15: these certain directions, we're just not going to accept it.

1797
01:25:48,439 --> 01:25:50,479
Speaker 15: And we're not you know, it's not going to be collaborative.

1798
01:25:50,520 --> 01:25:53,720
Speaker 15: It's going to be you know, argumentative probably would be

1799
01:25:53,800 --> 01:25:56,880
Speaker 15: the be the way of describing it. So let's let's

1800
01:25:56,920 --> 01:25:58,639
Speaker 15: hope that we don't have to go there. Let's hope

1801
01:25:58,640 --> 01:26:00,040
Speaker 15: that we have you know, the work that we're I

1802
01:26:00,080 --> 01:26:01,800
Speaker 15: don't know the last couple of years is good and

1803
01:26:02,240 --> 01:26:05,240
Speaker 15: we can get somewhere because yeah, I think a credit

1804
01:26:05,320 --> 01:26:08,280
Speaker 15: to Chris Hopkins. He has certainly learned a lot about

1805
01:26:08,320 --> 01:26:10,080
Speaker 15: farming over the last couple of years, and he certainly

1806
01:26:10,080 --> 01:26:12,639
Speaker 15: spoke pretty well without understanding today as well.

1807
01:26:12,760 --> 01:26:14,679
Speaker 4: Good on him. Is that why you're thinking about standing

1808
01:26:14,760 --> 01:26:15,840
Speaker 4: in Tasman West Coast?

1809
01:26:18,560 --> 01:26:21,080
Speaker 15: That room has been going around a bit, But no, no,

1810
01:26:21,280 --> 01:26:23,160
Speaker 15: not the case. So Peds has kipp me busy enough

1811
01:26:23,200 --> 01:26:24,160
Speaker 15: as it is at the moment, so.

1812
01:26:24,680 --> 01:26:26,360
Speaker 4: Made me ask it. Jamie told me to do that,

1813
01:26:27,120 --> 01:26:29,240
Speaker 4: And I got a text from one of your mates

1814
01:26:29,320 --> 01:26:31,600
Speaker 4: who's seen a picture of youth. Are you sitting in

1815
01:26:31,680 --> 01:26:33,040
Speaker 4: your tractor talking to me right now?

1816
01:26:35,160 --> 01:26:37,240
Speaker 15: It's well ten degrees in meth and now it feels

1817
01:26:37,360 --> 01:26:40,160
Speaker 15: like two degrees. The rain's pouring down on the roof

1818
01:26:40,200 --> 01:26:42,320
Speaker 15: at the big We're at South Pacific Seats, so I

1819
01:26:42,320 --> 01:26:44,439
Speaker 15: should give them a shout out because they're putting on

1820
01:26:44,520 --> 01:26:47,080
Speaker 15: dinner tonight. But I'm actually sitting in a tractor inside

1821
01:26:47,160 --> 01:26:48,880
Speaker 15: just to get a nice quiet room for you.

1822
01:26:49,920 --> 01:26:51,880
Speaker 4: Well, thank you for doing it. Go inside and get warm,

1823
01:26:51,960 --> 01:26:54,400
Speaker 4: and Wayne, it's always lovely to chat to your Wayne Langford,

1824
01:26:54,600 --> 01:26:56,840
Speaker 4: Federated Farmer's National Prison. Good to hear that the Labor

1825
01:26:56,880 --> 01:26:58,439
Speaker 4: Party is putting in some work behind the scenes. A

1826
01:26:58,520 --> 01:26:59,439
Speaker 4: twenty away from seven.

1827
01:27:00,120 --> 01:27:02,400
Speaker 1: Heather Duplessy Allen, Hey, do you remember, by.

1828
01:27:02,360 --> 01:27:04,680
Speaker 4: The way, on the Epstein stuff, do you remember when

1829
01:27:04,720 --> 01:27:07,040
Speaker 4: Bill Gates sat down with our old mate Charlie Croutcher

1830
01:27:07,560 --> 01:27:11,439
Speaker 4: and denied the Jeffrey Epstein claimed Remember Jeffrey Epstein sent

1831
01:27:11,479 --> 01:27:13,120
Speaker 4: the email and he claimed that Bill Gates had got

1832
01:27:13,160 --> 01:27:14,599
Speaker 4: the clap from one of the Russian girls and then

1833
01:27:14,600 --> 01:27:16,880
Speaker 4: he was trying to slip the antibiotics into Melinda's food

1834
01:27:16,920 --> 01:27:18,760
Speaker 4: or something like that, so she didn't get it. Remember that.

1835
01:27:19,160 --> 01:27:21,040
Speaker 4: And then he sat down, he sat down with Charles

1836
01:27:21,120 --> 01:27:25,719
Speaker 4: Kroucher and he said, oh, that email wasn't real well, well,

1837
01:27:26,520 --> 01:27:29,559
Speaker 4: he being Bill. Bill has now admitted that he did

1838
01:27:29,640 --> 01:27:32,880
Speaker 4: have affairs with two Russian women, one with a Russian

1839
01:27:32,920 --> 01:27:34,920
Speaker 4: bridge player who had met at bridge events, and one

1840
01:27:34,960 --> 01:27:38,040
Speaker 4: with a Russian nuclear physicist who had met at business activities.

1841
01:27:38,479 --> 01:27:41,240
Speaker 4: Now this obviously doesn't mean that the email is necessarily

1842
01:27:41,320 --> 01:27:44,560
Speaker 4: correct about the clap and the antibiotics, but what it

1843
01:27:44,720 --> 01:27:48,960
Speaker 4: does say is at least some of what Jeffrey Epstein

1844
01:27:49,000 --> 01:27:51,240
Speaker 4: had written was true, which was that Bill had been,

1845
01:27:51,360 --> 01:27:54,920
Speaker 4: you know, having it off with a Russian girl. And

1846
01:27:55,000 --> 01:27:56,960
Speaker 4: as they say, where they smoke, there's fire. Now on

1847
01:27:57,040 --> 01:27:59,720
Speaker 4: to more important things. We have got another town with

1848
01:27:59,880 --> 01:28:01,800
Speaker 4: roaming dogs problems. I'm going to bring this to your

1849
01:28:01,800 --> 01:28:04,400
Speaker 4: attention so that we can just keep on like building

1850
01:28:04,439 --> 01:28:06,240
Speaker 4: a picture of how bad this is around the country.

1851
01:28:06,520 --> 01:28:08,959
Speaker 4: Is because we've talked about it being bad in Northland,

1852
01:28:09,400 --> 01:28:11,400
Speaker 4: and we've talked about it being bad in the Rotrua,

1853
01:28:12,120 --> 01:28:14,800
Speaker 4: but also there's a place called Tapoona near Todunger where

1854
01:28:14,800 --> 01:28:17,720
Speaker 4: apparently it's quite bad as well. Residents there reckon the

1855
01:28:17,760 --> 01:28:19,880
Speaker 4: problem is now bad enough for the kids no longer

1856
01:28:19,920 --> 01:28:21,800
Speaker 4: to be able to walk around the town because they're

1857
01:28:21,800 --> 01:28:24,840
Speaker 4: worried about the dogs and grown ups are carrying things

1858
01:28:24,960 --> 01:28:28,000
Speaker 4: like golf clubs to be able to defend themselves. And

1859
01:28:28,120 --> 01:28:30,880
Speaker 4: apparently this has been going on for years. And obviously

1860
01:28:31,160 --> 01:28:32,680
Speaker 4: the relevance of the fact that it's been going on

1861
01:28:32,760 --> 01:28:35,400
Speaker 4: for years is that if you've got roaming dogs for years,

1862
01:28:35,520 --> 01:28:37,519
Speaker 4: then you kind of get a scent baby. They're having

1863
01:28:37,560 --> 01:28:39,080
Speaker 4: more babies and more babies. You can kind of get

1864
01:28:39,080 --> 01:28:42,000
Speaker 4: a sense of how big this thing may be getting. Also,

1865
01:28:42,479 --> 01:28:44,719
Speaker 4: I didn't realize it was this bigger problem in Auckland,

1866
01:28:45,080 --> 01:28:50,160
Speaker 4: but also last year Auckland Council alone received almost seventeen

1867
01:28:50,800 --> 01:28:55,000
Speaker 4: thousand reports of roaming dogs and more than thirteen hundred

1868
01:28:55,040 --> 01:28:57,160
Speaker 4: reports of dog attacks on people, which I think we

1869
01:28:57,240 --> 01:29:00,800
Speaker 4: can all agree is just out the gate seventeen away

1870
01:29:00,840 --> 01:29:02,719
Speaker 4: from seven Well Everett.

1871
01:29:02,800 --> 01:29:06,240
Speaker 2: To do with money, it matters to you. The Business

1872
01:29:06,320 --> 01:29:10,440
Speaker 2: Hour with Heather Duplicy, Allen and Mare's Insurance and Investments,

1873
01:29:10,760 --> 01:29:14,720
Speaker 2: Your futures in good hands, News talks'd be I should say.

1874
01:29:14,760 --> 01:29:17,280
Speaker 4: Actually, probably the most important thing on the Epstein files

1875
01:29:17,360 --> 01:29:19,400
Speaker 4: is that we're only hours away from the Clinton starting

1876
01:29:19,439 --> 01:29:22,639
Speaker 4: to give depositions. They're expected to be joined by their lawyers.

1877
01:29:22,640 --> 01:29:24,120
Speaker 4: They're going to do it in New York, because this

1878
01:29:24,200 --> 01:29:26,080
Speaker 4: is where this is part of the compromise that structs

1879
01:29:26,080 --> 01:29:31,480
Speaker 4: whether Clintons live. Hillary Clinton's doing Thursday, Bill Clinton's doing Friday. Unfortunately,

1880
01:29:31,560 --> 01:29:33,760
Speaker 4: fast it's a closed door session, so none of us

1881
01:29:33,760 --> 01:29:36,000
Speaker 4: are going to be able to watch this fourteen away

1882
01:29:36,000 --> 01:29:38,280
Speaker 4: from seven into Brady UK correspondence with us.

1883
01:29:38,320 --> 01:29:40,680
Speaker 12: Hello, Ender, Heather, great to be back.

1884
01:29:40,880 --> 01:29:42,680
Speaker 4: And I would have thought the House, the Speaker of

1885
01:29:42,720 --> 01:29:44,559
Speaker 4: the House of Commons has good reason to be pretty

1886
01:29:44,600 --> 01:29:45,439
Speaker 4: cross at the police.

1887
01:29:46,760 --> 01:29:49,160
Speaker 12: Yes he has, so, frannieone who hasn't followed this, Lindsay

1888
01:29:49,280 --> 01:29:52,759
Speaker 12: Hoyle recently came back from a trip to the British

1889
01:29:52,840 --> 01:29:55,920
Speaker 12: Virgin Islands and what we did not know was that

1890
01:29:56,080 --> 01:29:58,240
Speaker 12: he picked up a piece of information he was tipped

1891
01:29:58,280 --> 01:30:01,280
Speaker 12: off there that some one at a senior level in

1892
01:30:01,320 --> 01:30:05,520
Speaker 12: the bvyes in the Caribbean believes Peter Mandelsson, Lord Mandalsson,

1893
01:30:05,720 --> 01:30:10,000
Speaker 12: recently arrested on suspicion of misconduct in public office relating

1894
01:30:10,080 --> 01:30:13,559
Speaker 12: to his friendship with Jeffrey Epstein, that Mandelsson was planning

1895
01:30:13,600 --> 01:30:17,320
Speaker 12: to flee the United Kingdom and go to the BVS

1896
01:30:17,560 --> 01:30:21,640
Speaker 12: and basically stay there. Now, Mandalsson got arrested out of

1897
01:30:21,760 --> 01:30:25,479
Speaker 12: nowhere at four pm on Monday. He then on Tuesday

1898
01:30:25,560 --> 01:30:29,040
Speaker 12: I put a statement out saying this wasn't what was agreed.

1899
01:30:29,200 --> 01:30:31,240
Speaker 12: I thought I was getting arrested in two weeks time

1900
01:30:31,320 --> 01:30:34,560
Speaker 12: by appointment. What's gone on here? You know, I was

1901
01:30:34,680 --> 01:30:37,280
Speaker 12: never going to flee the country. Him fleeing the country

1902
01:30:37,439 --> 01:30:39,759
Speaker 12: was not on anyone's radar until he said it himself.

1903
01:30:40,200 --> 01:30:43,360
Speaker 12: And now what's happened. Lindsay Hoyle stood up in the

1904
01:30:43,400 --> 01:30:46,000
Speaker 12: House of Commons and said, just to clear up some

1905
01:30:46,680 --> 01:30:51,920
Speaker 12: press speculation, I basically taught went and told the police.

1906
01:30:52,360 --> 01:30:54,840
Speaker 12: And it's kind of very embarrassing I think for the

1907
01:30:54,880 --> 01:30:57,960
Speaker 12: police that they've now let Mandleson know before he said

1908
01:30:58,000 --> 01:30:59,439
Speaker 12: that in the House of Commons that he was the

1909
01:30:59,520 --> 01:31:00,639
Speaker 12: source of the intel.

1910
01:31:01,320 --> 01:31:03,760
Speaker 4: Does it make any sense to you, though, ind if

1911
01:31:03,800 --> 01:31:06,200
Speaker 4: he was going to flee to the Virgin Islands, because

1912
01:31:06,320 --> 01:31:10,080
Speaker 4: surely there's an extradition treaty with the UK, Well the first.

1913
01:31:09,920 --> 01:31:13,080
Speaker 12: Letter is B for British, so he will be just

1914
01:31:13,240 --> 01:31:16,000
Speaker 12: dragged back and it would look even worse. But I

1915
01:31:16,080 --> 01:31:17,840
Speaker 12: think the one thing I take from all of this

1916
01:31:18,760 --> 01:31:22,080
Speaker 12: the way Andrew was arrested at Mandlsson getting nicked at

1917
01:31:22,120 --> 01:31:24,880
Speaker 12: four pm on a Monday. The world has changed for

1918
01:31:25,000 --> 01:31:29,519
Speaker 12: these men, regardless of innocence or declarations and protestations of

1919
01:31:29,560 --> 01:31:33,719
Speaker 12: innocence and investigations following the full course. The world has changed.

1920
01:31:34,240 --> 01:31:37,560
Speaker 12: There is no zero interest in who you used to be.

1921
01:31:38,080 --> 01:31:39,519
Speaker 12: The law will follow its course.

1922
01:31:39,560 --> 01:31:42,200
Speaker 4: Do just feel a bit like that now? Are we seriously?

1923
01:31:42,479 --> 01:31:44,559
Speaker 4: I mean the timeline of three years for you guys

1924
01:31:44,640 --> 01:31:46,840
Speaker 4: to prepare for war with the Russians and people taking

1925
01:31:46,920 --> 01:31:47,479
Speaker 4: this seriously.

1926
01:31:48,560 --> 01:31:50,320
Speaker 12: So this is an interview in the Times today with

1927
01:31:50,520 --> 01:31:54,040
Speaker 12: Al Cairns. He is the Armed Forces Minister and this

1928
01:31:54,120 --> 01:31:57,280
Speaker 12: guy is not a politician. He's ex Special Forces. He

1929
01:31:57,360 --> 01:31:59,920
Speaker 12: has been a soldier his entire life. He's from a

1930
01:32:00,080 --> 01:32:03,920
Speaker 12: council estate in Scotland. He speaks very bluntly. People are

1931
01:32:03,960 --> 01:32:06,559
Speaker 12: already saying this guy could be the next prime minister

1932
01:32:06,640 --> 01:32:08,840
Speaker 12: if he plays his cards right. He has come out

1933
01:32:08,880 --> 01:32:12,560
Speaker 12: today with a jaw dropping interview in the Times and

1934
01:32:12,720 --> 01:32:15,080
Speaker 12: he says that it's coming. We have three years to

1935
01:32:15,160 --> 01:32:17,559
Speaker 12: get ready for a major conflict. And then he name

1936
01:32:17,640 --> 01:32:21,479
Speaker 12: drops Russia and he said that the battlefield has changed

1937
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Speaker 12: beyond all recognition now because the drone technology is advancing

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Speaker 12: so so fast. He points out that eighty seven percent

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Speaker 12: of all casualties on the front line in Ukraine are

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Speaker 12: as a result of drones. They have a kill rate

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Speaker 12: that is twenty two times higher than artillery rounds. And

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Speaker 12: he said that where we are right now in the

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Speaker 12: UK said we're training up snipers to shoot people from

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Speaker 12: eight hundred meters away. He said, what you're looking at

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Speaker 12: in terms of drone technology, He said, I could train

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Speaker 12: my son up in a fortnight to kill you from

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Speaker 12: forty five kilometers away with a fiber optic dron.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Wow, I mean that is sobering, isn't it. Yeah, big

1950
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Speaker 4: day for you guys with Manchester buy election. How do

1951
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Speaker 4: you reckon it's going to go?

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Speaker 12: Well, it's a three way split. Look, it goes one

1953
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Speaker 12: of two ways. For Cure Starmer Labor hold the seat

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Speaker 12: and win, and he rejuvenates himself and gets out there

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Speaker 12: and starts making domestic policies that people believe in. Or

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Speaker 12: if the Greens or Reform UK win this seat. What

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Speaker 12: you will then see as a conversation inside Labor saying

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Speaker 12: look Starmar's toast, we need someone else.

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Speaker 4: Okay, well we'll all have to keep an eye on

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Speaker 4: that one.

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Speaker 11: Enda.

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Speaker 4: Thanks very much look after yourself. Indebrady are UK correspondent.

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Speaker 4: We'll bring the obviously be discussing the by election tomorrow.

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Speaker 4: I'd imagine I probably should have actually mentioned this earlier

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Speaker 4: in the show and given the government a bit of

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Speaker 4: credit for this, because this is significant. The number of

1967
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Speaker 4: victims of violent crime is down by forty nine thousand

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Speaker 4: in the past two years. Victims of violent crime down

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Speaker 4: twenty seven percent, victims of family violence down twenty two percent,

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Speaker 4: victims of sexual assault down six percent. There's only one

1971
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Speaker 4: increase in October twenty twenty three, which is which measured

1972
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Speaker 4: from forty two percent rise in the number of Pacific

1973
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Speaker 4: violence victims of violent crime. Now, why this is significant

1974
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Speaker 4: and the government deserves some credit for is that they

1975
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Speaker 4: had set a target of reducing I think the victims

1976
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Speaker 4: of violent crime by something was something like twenty thousand

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Speaker 4: people by twenty twenty nine. They've already managed to out

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Speaker 4: do it by more than double. It's forty nine thousand

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Speaker 4: people and it's only twenty twenty six, so doing pretty

1980
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Speaker 4: well there. Ten away from.

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Speaker 2: Seven, it's the Heather two per c Allen Drive Full

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1983
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Speaker 4: You know, I was telling you about an hour ago

1984
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Speaker 4: about the pooh emoji situation at South Waikato District Council

1985
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Speaker 4: where they got they spent four thousand dollars on the

1986
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Speaker 4: review because the mayor sent the poo emoji.

1987
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Speaker 21: What about this?

1988
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Speaker 4: This is my favorite thing today. Northland Regional Council chairperson

1989
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Speaker 4: Tip of Pitane has called on cabinet ministers to stop

1990
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Speaker 4: saying mean things about councils. So they had a big

1991
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Speaker 4: goal get together. It's an annual thing, I think at

1992
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Speaker 4: the Beehive. It's called the All of Local Government Conference.

1993
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Speaker 4: And you had David Seymour, they're doing our speech, and

1994
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Speaker 4: you had a whole bunch of counselors from the regional council's,

1995
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Speaker 4: district councils, whatever and all. They're having a nice tim

1996
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Speaker 4: and Peter pops up and he says, too often I

1997
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Speaker 4: hear politicians who sit around the cabinet table, and you

1998
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Speaker 4: are the highest ranking politician who will address this forum

1999
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Speaker 4: making very demrogatory comments, particularly about regional councils, but councils

2000
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Speaker 4: in general. And no sooner had he finished saying this,

2001
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Speaker 4: and they all giving him the clap. They were because

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Speaker 4: they were all like, that's right, Peter, stand up for us.

2003
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Speaker 4: And then afterwards he says there are comments that come

2004
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Speaker 4: from this is to the media. There are comments that

2005
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Speaker 4: come from cabinet ministers, in fact from the Prime Minister himself,

2006
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Speaker 4: who say things like councils have got no social license.

2007
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Speaker 4: We need to be proactive, positive and working together, not

2008
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Speaker 4: being disparaging towards local government.

2009
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Speaker 1: Ha ha.

2010
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Speaker 4: I love because we are not being disparaging towards local

2011
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Speaker 4: government without local government basically asking for it. What did

2012
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Speaker 4: I just tell you They're having a fight in south

2013
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Speaker 4: Way Hatto District Council about somebody using the Pooh emoji

2014
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Speaker 4: on Facebook. You've got a Numpty and Dunedin taping his

2015
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Speaker 4: face and going to meetings. You've got a I didn't

2016
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Speaker 4: even talk to you about this. You've got a guy

2017
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Speaker 4: in Hastings who is being accused of bullying because he

2018
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Speaker 4: turned up at a protest like this is the stuff

2019
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Speaker 4: that these people are tying themselves up and not for it.

2020
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Speaker 4: Don't come and tell us we're being disparaging. People need

2021
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Speaker 4: to be nicer. How about you just actually behave like

2022
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Speaker 4: a bunch of professionals, no one will be Disparaging Ants.

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Speaker 16: Wonderwall by Oasis to play us out tonight.

2024
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Speaker 23: They So the shortlist has been announced for the Rock

2025
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Speaker 23: and Roll Hall of Fame Class of twenty twenty six.

2026
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Speaker 23: They've narrowed it down to seventeen acts that might make

2027
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Speaker 23: it on and Oasis is one of the seventeen. This

2028
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Speaker 23: is the third year in a row that Oasis has

2029
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Speaker 23: been on the shortlist. They had in twenty four and

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Speaker 23: twenty twenty five, but didn't quite make it either of

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Speaker 23: those years, So maybe this will be the year they

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Speaker 23: finally get over the edge. Other ones in this year's

2033
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Speaker 23: shortless Billy Idol, Black Crows in Excess, Iron Maid and

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Speaker 23: Jeff Buckley, Joy Division, New Order, Lauryn Hill, Luther Van Ross,

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Speaker 23: Mariah Carey, Melissa Etherra's New Edition, Oas, Phil Collins, Pink Shade, Shakira,

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Speaker 23: and the Woutine Class.

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Speaker 4: WHOA hold On?

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Speaker 1: Whoa?

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Speaker 4: Lauren Hill?

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Speaker 23: Yep, she's not in there either yet. Shakira, she's done

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Speaker 23: in there. Maybe maybe shouldn't do it?

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Speaker 4: Riah Carey, Yeah, this is the rock and roll people

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Speaker 4: doing on this rock and Roll Hall of.

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Speaker 23: Rock and Roll has always been a very sort of

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Speaker 23: abstract definition of rock and roll in the rock and

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Speaker 23: Roll Hall of Famous. Okay, to be fair, Pink's pop rock.

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Speaker 23: That's okay, isn't it? Well Shade, I would think it's

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Speaker 23: the most controversial one then no, no, no, I think

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Speaker 23: Sakira might be, oh wow, why are they.

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Speaker 7: Not in there?

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Speaker 4: It is a crime that in Excess is not in there.

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Speaker 4: It is a crime that Billy Idol is.

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Speaker 11: Not in there.

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Speaker 16: I have made and I think it's a pretty strong

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Speaker 16: case as well.

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Speaker 4: Iron Maiden Melissa Ethridge, she's actually quite awesome. Oasis also

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Speaker 4: total crime. So she's hopefully hopefully you know what, and

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Speaker 4: now that you have played Oasis, they will be in

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Speaker 4: the rock and roll the fane. When when do we

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Speaker 4: find out?

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Speaker 16: I think later in the year.

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Speaker 4: Got okay, you keep an eye on that for us,

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Speaker 4: put that on your work list and then we'll chat

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Speaker 4: about it about how you've.

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Speaker 16: Got to find out with her under Jason Pine of

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Speaker 16: Musical Yeah, well.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, anyway, we'll talk about it. Then see tomorrow news

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Speaker 4: think yeah.

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Speaker 1: That save for more from hither Duples see Alan Drive.

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Speaker 2: Listen live to news Talks it'd be from four pm weekdays,

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