1 00:00:06,760 --> 00:00:10,600 Speaker 1: Coomste alto Welcome to the BYC podcast, coming to you 2 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:13,800 Speaker 1: from the Export Bear Garden studio in the midst of 3 00:00:13,840 --> 00:00:16,680 Speaker 1: a week that is the calm before the stormy, tremble 4 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:19,520 Speaker 1: inducing proceedings that I fear will be the abiding memory 5 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:22,880 Speaker 1: of the upcoming Black Cats tour India. This week we 6 00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:25,720 Speaker 1: reflect on the opening salvos of the Women's T twenty 7 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:28,880 Speaker 1: World Cup in the UAE squirm about the squad for 8 00:00:28,920 --> 00:00:32,639 Speaker 1: the Indian for a revel in England's battles overnight and 9 00:00:32,840 --> 00:00:36,920 Speaker 1: wash it all down with an acknowledgment of a fallen 10 00:00:37,360 --> 00:00:41,320 Speaker 1: cricketer and some cricket violence. I am Paul Ford, Godfather 11 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:43,920 Speaker 1: of the Base Brigade. I am joined by Master of 12 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:47,360 Speaker 1: the New Zealand Cricket Scoop, Dylan Clever, el Pleasi Dente 13 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:51,880 Speaker 1: of the Southeast Asian Bound substate newsletter the Bounce DC. 14 00:00:52,720 --> 00:00:55,360 Speaker 1: Tough week watching the White firms get going and then 15 00:00:55,440 --> 00:00:57,360 Speaker 1: not get going in this World Cup. 16 00:00:58,040 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, so positively didn't there. 17 00:00:59,800 --> 00:01:02,080 Speaker 3: And I think that's probably an appropriate place to start, 18 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:06,560 Speaker 3: given the misery of last week that we thrust upon 19 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:09,560 Speaker 3: our listeners. The White fans got off to a thumping 20 00:01:10,280 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 3: start in the UAE by beating India by fifty eight 21 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:18,040 Speaker 3: runs in Dubai. Batting first, they scored one hundred and 22 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:21,520 Speaker 3: sixty for four. Sophie Devine led the way with fifty 23 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:24,760 Speaker 3: seven not out of thirty six balls and ably assisted 24 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:28,479 Speaker 3: by Georgia Plimer thirty four from twenty three, before wrapping 25 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:31,360 Speaker 3: up India's innings for one hundred and two in the 26 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 3: nineteenth over, with Rosemary Mayor taking four for nineteen and 27 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:38,119 Speaker 3: lea to who who three for fifteen. And I must 28 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:39,959 Speaker 3: have met when I saw that result and watched the 29 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:42,840 Speaker 3: way they played, I thought, have we been a bit 30 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:44,520 Speaker 3: harsh on the White Ferns? 31 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 2: After all? 32 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:49,080 Speaker 3: This incredible losing streak that been on has been against 33 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:52,480 Speaker 3: Australia and England almost exclusively, right, So is it a 34 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:56,280 Speaker 3: case of Australia in England being so far ahead of 35 00:01:56,280 --> 00:02:00,480 Speaker 3: the pack and then the White Fans not actually that 36 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 3: bad kind of leading the pack underneath? And I don't 37 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:08,840 Speaker 3: know whether the second game provided any conclusive evidence of 38 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 3: that or the other way around. I'll throw that over 39 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:13,680 Speaker 3: to you to get your thoughts on that. 40 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:16,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's an interesting point, Dylan. I think I think 41 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:19,400 Speaker 1: that's right. I mean, obviously it's frustrating watching them lose 42 00:02:19,440 --> 00:02:21,880 Speaker 1: game after game after game, and obviously I mean surely 43 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:25,239 Speaker 1: debilitating for the team for morale and all of those 44 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:27,959 Speaker 1: sorts of things. But you would expect that given the 45 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:31,120 Speaker 1: number of games they've played, that they are, you know, 46 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:34,160 Speaker 1: getting exercised against the best of the best, and that's 47 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:36,080 Speaker 1: surely got to pay some dividends. And if it's paying 48 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:39,880 Speaker 1: some dividends against some of the lesser teams during this 49 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 1: two twenty World Cup, I'm all for it. So yeah, look, 50 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 1: I think you're right. It does feel like, you know, 51 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:48,240 Speaker 1: England and Australia are kind of miles ahead of everybody else, 52 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 1: and it's it's a real much of a muchness in 53 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:53,399 Speaker 1: terms of the rest. You know, I had a quick 54 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:55,720 Speaker 1: or even just the odds. You know, it's Australia playing 55 00:02:55,760 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 1: a dollars fifty dollars sixty something like that, England are 56 00:02:58,200 --> 00:03:01,760 Speaker 1: about four bucks, and then you know India on nine 57 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:06,920 Speaker 1: in New Zealand on fifteen. It's definitely, yeah, the top 58 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:10,320 Speaker 1: to it and then the rest. The other thing. When 59 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 1: I'm watching you know, you know that game, that second game, 60 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 1: I think some of the verbs that I could just 61 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 1: see in the media headlines were bulldozed, crushed and thumped. 62 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:26,400 Speaker 1: You know, we just should be not expecting us to 63 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 1: beat Australia based on current form. I mean, we've just 64 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:31,840 Speaker 1: been through it so many times. And I was going 65 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:34,640 Speaker 1: to come blazing in with a massively compelling point about 66 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:38,520 Speaker 1: how we've lost to Australia forever, but our overall record 67 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 1: in T twenties against them is actually surprisingly even. So 68 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:45,120 Speaker 1: fifty two games played, we've actually won twenty one of 69 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:47,920 Speaker 1: those games, twenty nine losses of time and no results, 70 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:50,120 Speaker 1: so we went about forty percent of the time. But 71 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:52,880 Speaker 1: in our defense, it hasn't been for a while. We've 72 00:03:52,880 --> 00:03:55,280 Speaker 1: only won four of the last eighteen, so it's down 73 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 1: around twenty percent going back the last seven years or so, 74 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 1: it feels like things have changed. Signify. 75 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:02,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a couple of points to expand on there, 76 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:04,840 Speaker 3: and that is T twenty should be the game where 77 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 3: as long as you've got a few talented players, you 78 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:09,720 Speaker 3: should be able to sneak the odd game. So I 79 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 3: think that's what the really concerning thing is that every 80 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 3: time we go up against England and Australia now the 81 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:17,919 Speaker 3: only games we ever seem to win our dead rubbers, 82 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:20,480 Speaker 3: the ones tacked on to the end of series that 83 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:23,760 Speaker 3: England have already won. So there is a little bit 84 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:27,520 Speaker 3: of a I guess if it's a mental block or 85 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:29,719 Speaker 3: just a skills block, but you should not lose that 86 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:32,320 Speaker 3: often to them. And also it's one thing to go 87 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 3: into a game against Australia not expecting to win. It's 88 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:38,800 Speaker 3: another thing to be thumped by sixty runs and a 89 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:41,640 Speaker 3: t twenty. And just to go through the short scoreboard 90 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:46,400 Speaker 3: from this morning's shocker, Australia batting first one four eight 91 00:04:46,520 --> 00:04:47,000 Speaker 3: for eight. 92 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:51,240 Speaker 2: This was at Shajai as well, by the way, with Kerr. 93 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:54,560 Speaker 3: Taking four for twenty six and then in reply and 94 00:04:54,839 --> 00:04:57,440 Speaker 3: the White fans replied with eighty eight all out in 95 00:04:57,680 --> 00:05:02,840 Speaker 3: the twentieth over no betting to highlight there. Really it's 96 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:06,240 Speaker 3: a calamitus loss, quite honestly, and it's highlighted by the 97 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 3: fact that New Zealand's top seven all scored at a 98 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 3: strike rate of less than one hundred. And you just 99 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:16,720 Speaker 3: can't do that. I mean, I know you can kind 100 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:19,560 Speaker 3: of get on a negative role in these games, but 101 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:21,960 Speaker 3: someone has actually got to have the bravery to go 102 00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:24,919 Speaker 3: out there and say right, I'm one, four eight for 103 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:27,760 Speaker 3: eight against this Australian attack, which is pretty relentless. 104 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:30,200 Speaker 2: It's tough to do, but I'm just going to take 105 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:31,200 Speaker 2: it to them. 106 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:34,320 Speaker 3: I'm going to be the one that it might fail spectacularly, 107 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:37,719 Speaker 3: but I'm not going to fart around for fifteen balls, 108 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:40,039 Speaker 3: scoring seven and then throw my wicket away. 109 00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:45,200 Speaker 2: But it just feels like but all looking at someone 110 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 2: else to do that. 111 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:52,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, that's right, that's right, you know, I suppose Yeah, 112 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:54,599 Speaker 1: I mean I haven't. I didn't watch enough of it 113 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:58,080 Speaker 1: to know whether that intent was there, But purely on 114 00:05:58,120 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 1: the scoring r rates alone, you can you can read 115 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:04,799 Speaker 1: a lot into it, can't you. It's it's just feels 116 00:06:04,839 --> 00:06:08,360 Speaker 1: like a groundhog day in these sorts of matches, and 117 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:11,320 Speaker 1: you just know, you just know. I mean to be fair, 118 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:14,880 Speaker 1: you know we have mentioned this before, but the Australians 119 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:18,680 Speaker 1: are extraordinary, right, I mean they've what are they? They 120 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:21,000 Speaker 1: beat England in the warm up game I think by 121 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:24,479 Speaker 1: thirty or forty runs, and I think that this is 122 00:06:24,520 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 1: the only for their fourth consecutive title in this tournament. 123 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:29,480 Speaker 1: So yeah, I think we're allowed one free hit. 124 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:32,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, and England with them at the start. When I 125 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:35,080 Speaker 3: see England and Australia are ahead of the rest. Really 126 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:38,760 Speaker 3: it is to all intents and purposes at one horse race, 127 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:41,839 Speaker 3: you know, it's almost like Australia have to beat themselves. 128 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:46,159 Speaker 3: They're relentless. Their talent is amazing. If Beth Mooney doesn't 129 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:48,640 Speaker 3: get you, and Alssa Heady will get you, or Elease 130 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:52,719 Speaker 3: Perry will get your. Italian McGrath by Annabelle Sutherland, you 131 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 3: know the spin bowling options. They go to Sophie Molinu 132 00:06:57,160 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 3: who is out injured for a year and comes back 133 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:07,200 Speaker 3: and there's unplayable almost from the start. So just a 134 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:09,720 Speaker 3: very very very good team. 135 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:13,240 Speaker 1: Yes, and so maybe we need to reset our aspirations. 136 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 1: Sure winning would be lovely, making the final would be outstanding, 137 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:21,120 Speaker 1: but maybe a semi final booth. Realistically, as far as 138 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:23,440 Speaker 1: this White Fans team can really be expected to go, 139 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:25,760 Speaker 1: give them the current state of the woman's game and 140 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:27,560 Speaker 1: where we sit in those rankings, I. 141 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:30,440 Speaker 2: Think you take that as a win, I really do. Yeah. 142 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:32,480 Speaker 1: Well, speaking of what we might take for a one DC, 143 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 1: maybe when we come back, we'll have a quick yarn 144 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:37,760 Speaker 1: and maybe a long yarn actually about how this Indian 145 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:41,280 Speaker 1: series is shaping up. Some pretty interesting news out earlier today. 146 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 1: Welcome back to the b YC. It's Paul Forlhan, Dylon 147 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:49,360 Speaker 1: Cleaver come into your life from the Export Beer Garden 148 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:54,040 Speaker 1: Studio and Dylan Interesting times. The black Caps squad has 149 00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:57,320 Speaker 1: been named. Maybe we can get into that. But some 150 00:07:57,400 --> 00:08:02,320 Speaker 1: horrendous news came. Williamson out with growing discomfort. 151 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:06,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's awfully ambiguous, that isn't it. 152 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:09,960 Speaker 3: We've all had a bit of growing discomfort from time 153 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:12,080 Speaker 3: to time, but it's not good. 154 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:13,560 Speaker 2: In fact, it's really really bad. 155 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:16,800 Speaker 3: I think I might have sent on the BYC chat 156 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:19,080 Speaker 3: last night a little graphic that popped up during the 157 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 3: Pakistan England game that showed the best players of spin 158 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:28,040 Speaker 3: in the world since COVID isolation, essentially, and they were 159 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:32,240 Speaker 3: four subcontinent players texting my brain here, but I know 160 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:35,160 Speaker 3: Dennis Chandemar was in there, the New Shoe Lenkan Sensation, 161 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:44,000 Speaker 3: Comindu Mendus was in there. Shaquille Sword Shaquille was in there. Yeah, yeah, 162 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:45,800 Speaker 3: the New Indian Sensation was in there. 163 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:46,360 Speaker 2: And then. 164 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:51,280 Speaker 3: Little Old New Zealand came Williamson averaging seventy two against spin, 165 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:55,480 Speaker 3: so clearly our most qualified player to go over there 166 00:08:55,520 --> 00:09:00,960 Speaker 3: and at least take the fight to revenge Jadasia rav Ashwyn. 167 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 3: But yeah, and it wasn't even certain. It wasn't black 168 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:09,319 Speaker 3: and white that press release either. Whether he's going to 169 00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:12,840 Speaker 3: be the hoping he can come back later in the series. 170 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:15,320 Speaker 3: I'm not sure if the hoping he can even be 171 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:17,480 Speaker 3: fit enough to get over there and into the first Test. 172 00:09:17,760 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 3: I couldn't quite work out in my mind what they're 173 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:23,840 Speaker 3: trying to say there. But he has been replaced by 174 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:27,559 Speaker 3: Mark Chapman, which I didn't see coming actually, and this 175 00:09:27,640 --> 00:09:31,160 Speaker 3: is Sam Wells talking about that, he said. Chapman featured 176 00:09:31,160 --> 00:09:33,720 Speaker 3: in three of the Aces Punket Shield pictures last summer, 177 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 3: notching two hundred and forty five runs at an average 178 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:40,840 Speaker 3: of forty, including one two three against the Vaults in 179 00:09:40,880 --> 00:09:44,439 Speaker 3: DNED in February. Well said Chapman possessed the right skill 180 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 3: set test cricket and the subcontinent. 181 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:47,640 Speaker 2: We believe Mark is one. 182 00:09:47,559 --> 00:09:49,760 Speaker 3: Of our best players, has spin and has a proven 183 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:53,560 Speaker 3: track record in the Subcontinent, said Wells. Mark has displayed 184 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:57,040 Speaker 3: an ability to play spin proactively in the international arena 185 00:09:57,120 --> 00:09:59,959 Speaker 3: and combined with his excellent first class record, we see 186 00:10:00,520 --> 00:10:02,680 Speaker 3: we see him as someone who can succeed and the 187 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:06,240 Speaker 3: type of conditions we expect to encounter into India, which 188 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:08,720 Speaker 3: I sort of had a sad dunic reply that, Yep, 189 00:10:08,760 --> 00:10:12,480 Speaker 3: a century against Otago and Dunedin is all the evidence 190 00:10:12,520 --> 00:10:15,520 Speaker 3: you need that he's going to succeed in benglu U 191 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:17,560 Speaker 3: against the Spindins of India. 192 00:10:17,800 --> 00:10:21,559 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, yeah, it does seem like a bit of 193 00:10:21,559 --> 00:10:23,240 Speaker 1: a strange rue. I mean, I haven't had too long 194 00:10:23,240 --> 00:10:26,560 Speaker 1: to obviously kind of digest it. My first point when 195 00:10:26,800 --> 00:10:29,679 Speaker 1: that I thought when came Williamson was down with his 196 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:31,760 Speaker 1: grundous comfort, was that he's going to have saw balls 197 00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:33,480 Speaker 1: and he's going to be watching this testament. Should probably 198 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:35,400 Speaker 1: get saw eyeball so that soon we can get him 199 00:10:35,400 --> 00:10:38,240 Speaker 1: over there, obviously the better. But yeah, look, I think 200 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:41,360 Speaker 1: the thing with the thing with Chapman and this is 201 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:43,520 Speaker 1: the thing that annoys me in some of these releases, 202 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:45,840 Speaker 1: the thing about the proven trackcord and you picked up 203 00:10:45,880 --> 00:10:49,160 Speaker 1: on one point, but it also talks about him, you know, 204 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:52,679 Speaker 1: having an excellent record on the subcontinent. He averages seventeen 205 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:57,280 Speaker 1: and eighteen for t twenties and fifty over games in India. 206 00:10:57,360 --> 00:11:02,360 Speaker 1: So I mean it's not a hugely compelling, not that season. 207 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:05,920 Speaker 1: It's not it's not that excellent, it's not that proven 208 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:07,880 Speaker 1: well proven to be not that good. I guess. I 209 00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:10,840 Speaker 1: guess it's proven in one sense. Look, I've got nothing 210 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:12,920 Speaker 1: against Mark Chapman, and you know, I think he's a 211 00:11:12,920 --> 00:11:15,280 Speaker 1: really good player. The other thing that also but the 212 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:17,480 Speaker 1: other thing that also sticks in my craw, I guess 213 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:19,280 Speaker 1: what if I was one of the other guys in 214 00:11:19,320 --> 00:11:22,040 Speaker 1: and around him, is that he he was twentieth in 215 00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:24,520 Speaker 1: the batting averages for the Planket Shield, admittedly off a 216 00:11:24,559 --> 00:11:28,200 Speaker 1: small stample size of innings. But I guess that's my point. 217 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:30,280 Speaker 1: You've got these guys that are going out, you know, 218 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:34,600 Speaker 1: day and day out playing you know, eight Plunket Shield games. 219 00:11:34,640 --> 00:11:37,000 Speaker 1: You know, guys like cut Joe Carter, even Henry Nichols 220 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:38,800 Speaker 1: I think played at ten innings. I think in the 221 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:42,559 Speaker 1: Planket Shield, Mitch a, Tom Bruce, Greg hay Dale, Phillips, 222 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:45,839 Speaker 1: Gareth Severin, that Kelly. These are all guys that are 223 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:49,480 Speaker 1: ahead of Mark Chapman on recent format and have played 224 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:52,360 Speaker 1: a lot of first class games in New Zealand, which, 225 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:54,959 Speaker 1: to your point, is that actually very useful when you're 226 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:59,359 Speaker 1: going to go play Oh my god, Boomer and Judasia 227 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:01,920 Speaker 1: and ash and so on. But yeah, there's an there's 228 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:06,520 Speaker 1: an interesting thing in here around you know, what are 229 00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:09,200 Speaker 1: we doing? What are we doing with these with these selections, 230 00:12:09,280 --> 00:12:11,239 Speaker 1: it feels like a bit of a nod to the 231 00:12:11,360 --> 00:12:14,040 Speaker 1: today's gone by. And you know, I had a quick 232 00:12:14,040 --> 00:12:16,000 Speaker 1: look at that bowling line up when he scored the 233 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:18,839 Speaker 1: century against India, a which sounds great, you know, the 234 00:12:18,880 --> 00:12:23,400 Speaker 1: bowling line it was Saraj fair enough, poor ale warrior, 235 00:12:23,679 --> 00:12:30,240 Speaker 1: Shankha Nadem, the Hari and Agawil two overs. So chalk 236 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:31,400 Speaker 1: and cheese, chalk. 237 00:12:31,120 --> 00:12:33,880 Speaker 3: And cheese, absolutely, And that was the first thing I 238 00:12:33,960 --> 00:12:36,120 Speaker 3: thought of when I saw that Chapman had being brought 239 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:38,559 Speaker 3: And again I think Chapman's a nice player. I think 240 00:12:38,559 --> 00:12:42,120 Speaker 3: he's flattered to deceive a little bit at the top level, 241 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:44,520 Speaker 3: but still a nice player. But my immediate thought was, 242 00:12:45,080 --> 00:12:49,920 Speaker 3: how does Henry Nichols feel about that? How does Tom 243 00:12:49,960 --> 00:12:52,680 Speaker 3: Bruce feel about that? Tom Bruce has just done nothing 244 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:55,959 Speaker 3: but score runs for season upon season upon season. I 245 00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:57,839 Speaker 3: think he even might have gone to India on that 246 00:12:57,920 --> 00:12:59,600 Speaker 3: a tour as well. Maybe he didn't do as well 247 00:12:59,640 --> 00:13:05,320 Speaker 3: as Chapman on it, but it just feels like, I 248 00:13:05,320 --> 00:13:07,840 Speaker 3: don't know, I think you put it perfectly actually that 249 00:13:08,480 --> 00:13:10,360 Speaker 3: what are they doing? And well, I can tell you 250 00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:12,640 Speaker 3: what they're doing in terms of the full squad, which 251 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:16,520 Speaker 3: is Lathan captain, which will get you soon, Blundle. We 252 00:13:16,559 --> 00:13:19,080 Speaker 3: could keep a Bracewall was going over but for the 253 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:23,440 Speaker 3: first Test only. Then he leaves for the birth of child. 254 00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:26,400 Speaker 3: He will be replaced by is Sody for the second 255 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:39,040 Speaker 3: and third Test. Chapman has discussed Conway, Henry, Mitchell, O'Rourke, Patel, Phillips, Revenger, Santna, Sears, Southy, Williamson, 256 00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:43,679 Speaker 3: if and when and Young. We've kind of mentioned what 257 00:13:43,720 --> 00:13:45,640 Speaker 3: we may have done differently. I may have gone in 258 00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:49,760 Speaker 3: a different direction to replace Williamson or to cover Williamson. 259 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:52,280 Speaker 3: But do we assume now that Young goes into that 260 00:13:52,400 --> 00:13:55,119 Speaker 3: number three spot for the first Test studying in Benglaru 261 00:13:55,400 --> 00:13:57,240 Speaker 3: if Williamson as we expecse and. 262 00:13:57,280 --> 00:14:00,400 Speaker 1: Get there, Yeah, DC, I reckon that's exactly right. First 263 00:14:00,400 --> 00:14:03,360 Speaker 1: Test starts next Friday, five pm. I believe the first 264 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:07,120 Speaker 1: ball is going to be thundered down by either O'Rourke, 265 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:11,200 Speaker 1: Isume or Boomera. But yeah, I think that's right. So 266 00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:13,600 Speaker 1: I guess all of this, you know, wailing and mashing 267 00:14:13,640 --> 00:14:15,760 Speaker 1: of teeth about the Chapman thing is probably neither here 268 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:18,240 Speaker 1: nor there. It seems very unlikely to play. Surely to god, 269 00:14:18,280 --> 00:14:21,200 Speaker 1: will Young slots into that that number three, the other 270 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:27,840 Speaker 1: the other thing. And maybe I'm reading too much into it, 271 00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:30,160 Speaker 1: but it does seem that if Michael Bracey was unavailable 272 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:33,240 Speaker 1: for two thirds of the of the tour, you know, 273 00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:34,880 Speaker 1: are they taking him away and definitely going to play 274 00:14:34,920 --> 00:14:36,400 Speaker 1: him in that firstest? Otherwise sort of seems a bit 275 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:39,080 Speaker 1: weird if they're not going to play him. So I 276 00:14:39,080 --> 00:14:41,720 Speaker 1: did wonder whether he would would slot into to that 277 00:14:42,400 --> 00:14:46,920 Speaker 1: eleven in place of Mitchell Sentner, and then surely I 278 00:14:46,920 --> 00:14:51,000 Speaker 1: think Matt Henry would come in for Tim Southy, and 279 00:14:51,160 --> 00:14:54,160 Speaker 1: you know what's obviously I think our Rourke should be 280 00:14:54,160 --> 00:14:55,680 Speaker 1: in there. It's not not really my point, but if 281 00:14:55,680 --> 00:14:57,160 Speaker 1: he was tired, I feel like there's going to be 282 00:14:57,240 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 1: some management of him with with Ben Sears. Possibly not 283 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:01,000 Speaker 1: for this first test. 284 00:15:00,800 --> 00:15:01,920 Speaker 2: Though, yeap. 285 00:15:02,360 --> 00:15:04,960 Speaker 3: So I mean you raised that point to south The 286 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:07,840 Speaker 3: obviously made the call or it was made for him. 287 00:15:07,880 --> 00:15:09,680 Speaker 2: It doesn't really matter which way around it was. 288 00:15:09,760 --> 00:15:11,880 Speaker 3: We just have to take it at first face value 289 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:14,000 Speaker 3: that he made the call to step aside from Captain 290 00:15:14,040 --> 00:15:19,400 Speaker 3: c to concentrate on his bowling. Again, that was immediately 291 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:22,920 Speaker 3: by in chat rooms around the country on radio stations 292 00:15:22,920 --> 00:15:24,920 Speaker 3: with the thought that what he shouldn't go to India, 293 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:29,120 Speaker 3: he's out of form. Should he stay back in New Zealand, 294 00:15:29,480 --> 00:15:32,680 Speaker 3: get a good pre season under his belt and then 295 00:15:32,880 --> 00:15:36,960 Speaker 3: concentrate on those India tests. They've obviously decided that, note 296 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:38,840 Speaker 3: they need his experience over there in India. 297 00:15:39,400 --> 00:15:41,840 Speaker 2: Good cool, poor cal and different call. How would you 298 00:15:41,880 --> 00:15:42,520 Speaker 2: see that one? 299 00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:46,800 Speaker 1: Well? I think, yeah, I wondered whether he was going 300 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:50,640 Speaker 1: to step aside for this tour basically stand himself down. 301 00:15:50,840 --> 00:15:53,120 Speaker 1: But I'm actually quite pleased to see that he's going 302 00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:56,040 Speaker 1: to go. I'm sure, particularly with the injury to Williamson, 303 00:15:56,080 --> 00:15:59,200 Speaker 1: it will actually be fantastic. I think for Tom Lathan 304 00:15:59,280 --> 00:16:02,320 Speaker 1: to have an experienced sounding board like him in the squad. 305 00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:04,560 Speaker 1: I do worry about how he's going to go if 306 00:16:04,560 --> 00:16:08,280 Speaker 1: he's not on the eleven though. Yeah, well no, apparently 307 00:16:08,320 --> 00:16:11,200 Speaker 1: we know he hates not playing fair enough to he. 308 00:16:11,120 --> 00:16:15,600 Speaker 3: Does hate playing, But from what I've told other people 309 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:18,560 Speaker 3: have dropped their lips more than tim that he's actually 310 00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:19,960 Speaker 3: really quite good around the team. 311 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:21,200 Speaker 2: When he's not playing. 312 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:24,280 Speaker 3: There might have been one occasion in Sydney where he 313 00:16:25,320 --> 00:16:27,680 Speaker 3: was possibly a little bit unhappier than he has been 314 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:31,600 Speaker 3: in the past, But my understanding is that he's actually 315 00:16:31,680 --> 00:16:35,400 Speaker 3: a bloody good person to have around, keeping everyone loose, 316 00:16:36,640 --> 00:16:39,360 Speaker 3: taking the piss out of everyone, which is kind of 317 00:16:39,400 --> 00:16:43,200 Speaker 3: his sense of humor is to chop other people down 318 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:46,360 Speaker 3: to size. Look a couple of just one other talking 319 00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:51,120 Speaker 3: point I've got is, as we mentioned ad nauseum last week, 320 00:16:51,160 --> 00:16:54,360 Speaker 3: we're not in a great time for New Zealand for 321 00:16:54,400 --> 00:16:57,400 Speaker 3: this test squad and it's you know where it's at 322 00:16:57,480 --> 00:17:00,640 Speaker 3: right at the moment on its development arc. Is this 323 00:17:00,880 --> 00:17:03,840 Speaker 3: a big tour for any particular players? Do you think 324 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:10,240 Speaker 3: I've marked down here Tom Blundell, Blundell who who bad 325 00:17:10,280 --> 00:17:14,080 Speaker 3: it all right in Sri Lanka? In fact, look very positive. 326 00:17:14,600 --> 00:17:17,280 Speaker 3: But there's a guy that i've here they got big 327 00:17:17,280 --> 00:17:20,600 Speaker 3: wraps on in Canterbury. Mitch Hay is kind of waiting 328 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:23,480 Speaker 3: in the wings. Would you see this is a particularly 329 00:17:24,080 --> 00:17:26,960 Speaker 3: big tour for Tom and anyone else you would throw 330 00:17:27,040 --> 00:17:27,720 Speaker 3: into that mix. 331 00:17:28,560 --> 00:17:30,600 Speaker 1: Yep. Look, I think I think it's a good I 332 00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:33,280 Speaker 1: think it's a good call. I think Blundle definitely in 333 00:17:33,359 --> 00:17:36,560 Speaker 1: need of of some runs and a good performance with 334 00:17:36,600 --> 00:17:39,760 Speaker 1: the gloves pretty ropey in that Sri Lank contest series. 335 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:41,800 Speaker 1: So yes, I think he's definitely got a point to prove. 336 00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:45,640 Speaker 1: I think Conway, it's a big, big series for him. 337 00:17:45,760 --> 00:17:48,800 Speaker 1: Is he? Dare I say, you know, is he sort 338 00:17:48,840 --> 00:17:53,800 Speaker 1: of approaching the the end of his the You know, 339 00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:56,679 Speaker 1: I didn't want to say it, to be honest, you know, 340 00:17:56,880 --> 00:17:59,080 Speaker 1: is he is? He? It is closer to the end 341 00:17:59,119 --> 00:18:01,240 Speaker 1: in the start, it's like there hasn't been that long 342 00:18:01,400 --> 00:18:04,919 Speaker 1: and so yeah, but worried about a bit worried about him. 343 00:18:04,960 --> 00:18:06,960 Speaker 1: I hope he has a fantastic series over there. 344 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:09,119 Speaker 3: So I didn't have any weight on that second innings 345 00:18:09,119 --> 00:18:14,359 Speaker 3: in Srilanka because it was such loose steak situation, but 346 00:18:14,480 --> 00:18:17,879 Speaker 3: I did kind of I did feel that that was 347 00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:21,440 Speaker 3: maybe a little bit cathartic for him on an individual level, 348 00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:24,520 Speaker 3: getting some runs in that second innings. 349 00:18:25,280 --> 00:18:25,520 Speaker 2: Yeah. 350 00:18:25,680 --> 00:18:30,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think two others to mention, actually one 351 00:18:30,359 --> 00:18:32,080 Speaker 1: I thinks Phillips. Now, I don't mean that Phillips is 352 00:18:32,119 --> 00:18:34,520 Speaker 1: in any danger of being sort of left out, but 353 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:37,320 Speaker 1: I feel like if he can do some good good 354 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:41,280 Speaker 1: a great job as the spinning all round her, you 355 00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:45,200 Speaker 1: know in India, that will be a huge, huge confidence 356 00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:46,840 Speaker 1: boost for him and that will mean that he's really 357 00:18:46,880 --> 00:18:50,480 Speaker 1: starting to carve that role out for himself. So yeah, look, 358 00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:54,200 Speaker 1: I think, yeah, those guys are the ones that kind 359 00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:57,800 Speaker 1: of stick in my head. Satna too is the other 360 00:18:57,840 --> 00:19:00,800 Speaker 1: one that is he going to get anotherpportunity or is 361 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:03,760 Speaker 1: he is he falling down the pecking order a wee bit. 362 00:19:04,600 --> 00:19:10,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, again, he kind of had a nice enough second 363 00:19:10,760 --> 00:19:13,000 Speaker 3: Test in Sri Lanka and it makes the carnage to 364 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:13,639 Speaker 3: need to make you. 365 00:19:14,200 --> 00:19:16,439 Speaker 2: But again that's the frustration with Satna, isn't it. 366 00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:20,080 Speaker 3: You can see the talents there and it just very 367 00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:23,200 Speaker 3: it doesn't seem to manifest itself in red bull cricket 368 00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:25,520 Speaker 3: like it does in white ball cricket. Another name I 369 00:19:25,560 --> 00:19:28,800 Speaker 3: would throw into there is as well Young if he 370 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:34,520 Speaker 3: does get this opportunity with Caine's injury, a little bit 371 00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:36,920 Speaker 3: like Satna in fact, and that you look at him 372 00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:39,760 Speaker 3: and you say, there is a cricketer like he's got 373 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:44,159 Speaker 3: every shot, but it just hasn't for whatever reason, probably 374 00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:47,480 Speaker 3: because of the inconsistency of selection, the inconsistency where he 375 00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:50,160 Speaker 3: bats in the order it just hasn't happened for him yet. 376 00:19:50,160 --> 00:19:53,879 Speaker 2: So I feel that this is a big tour for 377 00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:55,600 Speaker 2: him if he gets the opportunity to play. 378 00:19:56,720 --> 00:20:00,239 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, one one quick point before we before we 379 00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:05,040 Speaker 1: move on, But I noted that the squad is departing 380 00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:08,760 Speaker 1: for India. I think this Friday, ahead of that first 381 00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:11,040 Speaker 1: Test in a week's time, a week or so, it's time. 382 00:20:11,119 --> 00:20:14,240 Speaker 1: But I noted that Darryl Mitchell was not with the team. 383 00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:18,080 Speaker 1: He's actually been training over in the nets in Dubai 384 00:20:18,359 --> 00:20:21,120 Speaker 1: and I was curious about this, and he's been training 385 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:24,879 Speaker 1: at the Rajasthan Royals Academy. And you know, I just 386 00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:27,520 Speaker 1: followed the thread through. So the guy that he's being 387 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:30,359 Speaker 1: coached by has a guy called Sidler Harry who was 388 00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:33,080 Speaker 1: part of the he's a batting coach for the Rajasthan Royals. 389 00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:36,040 Speaker 1: But gee, it's just it was a real reminder to 390 00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:38,560 Speaker 1: me of the infrastructure that sits around some of these 391 00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:43,600 Speaker 1: IBL teams. So they've got three cricket academies, one in 392 00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:47,080 Speaker 1: Surrey at Reed's School. That'll be thirty thou pounds a 393 00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:51,280 Speaker 1: year for your school feast, thank you, mister Cleaver. And 394 00:20:51,520 --> 00:20:54,840 Speaker 1: alongside that they've just opened an academy in New Jersey 395 00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:59,000 Speaker 1: in the States, and then this one in Dubai. Yeah, 396 00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:04,040 Speaker 1: pretty extraordinary. How significant these IPL teams and what they've 397 00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:05,840 Speaker 1: built up around their franchises. 398 00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:08,879 Speaker 3: I believe a former New Zealand Test cricketer may have 399 00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:12,240 Speaker 3: been the head groundsman at Reads for a while former 400 00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:16,240 Speaker 3: Auckland sometime we could keep him middle lord of Batsman. 401 00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:16,720 Speaker 2: Called Peter Webb. 402 00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:18,400 Speaker 1: Well there you go. 403 00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:20,480 Speaker 3: Well, I may have that wrong. I might have to 404 00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:25,480 Speaker 3: dig into my into the internet to see if that's true. 405 00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:28,000 Speaker 3: And I've just got a sneaking suspicion that's where he was. Hey, 406 00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:31,320 Speaker 3: we've got a bit of correspondence from Chris p following 407 00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:36,360 Speaker 3: on from last week's Miserable podcasts. So it's quite long, 408 00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:38,760 Speaker 3: but bear with us because I think he makes a 409 00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:42,119 Speaker 3: number of good points. Cura to the BYC team. I 410 00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:44,439 Speaker 3: felt compelled to get in touch as your most recent 411 00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:49,400 Speaker 3: pod seems so downbeat guilty. I guess this is appropriate 412 00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:52,280 Speaker 3: as we head across to and inevitably get threshed by India. 413 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:55,080 Speaker 3: This tour will prove our decline from the heavy heights 414 00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:59,200 Speaker 3: of World Test champions status in twenty twenty one is complete. 415 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:02,879 Speaker 3: Those Halcyon days when we knew how to win, it 416 00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:05,560 Speaker 3: seemed inevitable that Jamison would take out the Indian top 417 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:07,159 Speaker 3: Water if Wagner, Bolt and Sow. 418 00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:07,840 Speaker 2: They didn't do it. 419 00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:11,520 Speaker 3: Instead, Taylor and Williamson's an exorable march towards the title 420 00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:12,160 Speaker 3: seemed easy. 421 00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:13,640 Speaker 2: Oh how lucky we were. 422 00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:16,840 Speaker 3: There are calls to change the team, to add some 423 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:19,879 Speaker 3: life into the dying black cat species. However, it is 424 00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:22,520 Speaker 3: difficult to find clear visions for what our future could 425 00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:25,200 Speaker 3: look like. So I sat down and took a stock 426 00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:27,720 Speaker 3: tape of our cricketing talent, and here is my black 427 00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:32,560 Speaker 3: Cat squad for the summer. Latham Captain, Conway, Williamson, Ravender 428 00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:37,240 Speaker 3: and Mitchell Phillips, Mitchell Hey, Nathan Smith, Henry Jamison O'Rourke 429 00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:42,600 Speaker 3: with reserves, Sow, these sears, Blundle and Young. I'm getting 430 00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:45,000 Speaker 3: exhausted now, Paul, would you like to take a take 431 00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:45,640 Speaker 3: over from here? 432 00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:51,679 Speaker 1: Sure? Sure, Chris p continues, this balance is maintaining stability 433 00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:55,679 Speaker 1: with introducing youth and keeping under performing players accountable. We 434 00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:58,120 Speaker 1: don't currently have better alternatives to our top five. Will 435 00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:00,480 Speaker 1: Young is the best and has been tried and failed. 436 00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:04,840 Speaker 1: Mia Bass isn't quite ready, nora Is Robinson, Tim Phillips 437 00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:07,399 Speaker 1: should be moved up to six nurtured as our lead spinner. 438 00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:09,560 Speaker 1: He's passionate about spin bowling and could be a world 439 00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:12,040 Speaker 1: class all rounder if he plays his one. His results 440 00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:14,520 Speaker 1: have been good he has a long future. Blundle should 441 00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:16,560 Speaker 1: be replaced by Mitch a who has a great first 442 00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:19,760 Speaker 1: class record and deserves a shot. This introduces root youth 443 00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:23,119 Speaker 1: and keeps Blundle sharp and under performing players can be 444 00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:26,480 Speaker 1: given the message that they are replaceable. Our bowlers need 445 00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:30,159 Speaker 1: an injection of youth and speed. Smith promising as an 446 00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:32,280 Speaker 1: all rounder who can bowl with the new ball. Henry's 447 00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:34,879 Speaker 1: our best and Jamison should come straight back in when ready. 448 00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:37,359 Speaker 1: O'Rourke a true number eleven in the vein of Chris 449 00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:39,760 Speaker 1: Martin and has proved himself as the future for our 450 00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:42,520 Speaker 1: bowling lineup. However, we need to ensure he is an 451 00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:45,959 Speaker 1: over bowled and injured So four quicks it is. I 452 00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:49,040 Speaker 1: think the key change is that Stead should go along 453 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:52,720 Speaker 1: with Aurum, Ronkey and Foster Brutal. We need a coach 454 00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:58,160 Speaker 1: d Yeah, we need a coaching overhaul and we should 455 00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:01,040 Speaker 1: try our best to recruit some of our homegrowning international 456 00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:04,159 Speaker 1: talent who have proven records. We've produced Bears, Flea and 457 00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:06,480 Speaker 1: Bond for Tory, Bradburn and even Hessen might be worth 458 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:08,600 Speaker 1: trying to will again. Now his kids are a bit older, 459 00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:11,640 Speaker 1: he may have more time to recommit to the team. 460 00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:14,600 Speaker 1: All the coaches have proven records and homes in New Zealand. 461 00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:17,960 Speaker 1: We need to reset the culture and re establish our standards, 462 00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:19,440 Speaker 1: and then it kind of goes a little bit wild 463 00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:21,920 Speaker 1: and crazy. How about we transition Saldi and Williamson into 464 00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:25,400 Speaker 1: coaching Wattling for fielding. We could see whether those established 465 00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:27,960 Speaker 1: coaches could provide mentoring. We might even get Victoria to 466 00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:30,760 Speaker 1: provide some mentoring for Ageaz, who could be hired to 467 00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:31,800 Speaker 1: coach our spinners. 468 00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:32,400 Speaker 2: Pointer. 469 00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:35,639 Speaker 1: Something needs to change. We need to think about resources 470 00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:38,640 Speaker 1: we have, how to utilize them, and how to maintain accountability, 471 00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:41,960 Speaker 1: or will gradually embarrass ourselves until we start looking like 472 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:44,560 Speaker 1: the drunk uncle at the wedding, boasting about the good 473 00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:47,760 Speaker 1: old days while everyone laughs at our deteriorating dance moves, 474 00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:49,760 Speaker 1: until we comba out in a small puddle of our 475 00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:52,560 Speaker 1: own urine. We're better than that, surely. Cheers for your 476 00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:54,920 Speaker 1: work and chin up. Remember it could be worse. Davy 477 00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:58,159 Speaker 1: Dumdum has retired. Thank you, Chris p massively long but 478 00:24:58,960 --> 00:24:59,760 Speaker 1: buddy interesting. 479 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:01,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I thirty buried the lead. 480 00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:04,960 Speaker 3: As I mentioned, the key change he'd have is in 481 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:09,480 Speaker 3: the coaching look. I thought one of his lines there 482 00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:14,480 Speaker 3: that I've really latched onto is the one about keeping 483 00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:18,080 Speaker 3: players sharp and underperforming players can be given the message 484 00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:22,040 Speaker 3: that they are replaceable. This has become the bug beer 485 00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:25,679 Speaker 3: for me. New Zealand's success was built on stability and 486 00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:29,280 Speaker 3: consistency of selection, but they've not just taken it to 487 00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:31,800 Speaker 3: the nth degree, they've stretched it out to it's no 488 00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:35,280 Speaker 3: longer effective. I believe there's no jeopardy for those guys now. 489 00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:39,200 Speaker 3: They fail without any accountability. I know that's a really 490 00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:41,560 Speaker 3: harsh way of putting out. They're not trying to fail. 491 00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:45,159 Speaker 3: They still good players. But I do think that's a 492 00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:48,720 Speaker 3: really important that we get some kind of jeopardy back 493 00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:51,040 Speaker 3: into that selection model, because it's just not there at 494 00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:51,399 Speaker 3: the moment. 495 00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:56,880 Speaker 1: It's a very very interesting, it's a very interesting tech. Yeah. 496 00:25:57,160 --> 00:25:59,800 Speaker 1: I think the other piece around this is that you know, 497 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:04,600 Speaker 1: would be fantastic to have McCullum and Fleming and Vitry 498 00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:07,440 Speaker 1: and you know, all of those guys involved, the economics 499 00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:10,040 Speaker 1: of that are just so so so problematic. 500 00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:10,640 Speaker 2: They are not done. 501 00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:14,199 Speaker 1: And yeah, look maybe down the track when they've kind 502 00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:15,920 Speaker 1: of got nothing else better to do in a second, 503 00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:19,399 Speaker 1: flying first class all around the world to coach a 504 00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:21,199 Speaker 1: few people who are still going to be competing with 505 00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:23,720 Speaker 1: probably doing stuff by a zoom that's paying more than 506 00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:26,760 Speaker 1: doing it in real life. For the New Zealand, it's 507 00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:30,080 Speaker 1: a really really difficult one. We're really relying on their 508 00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:33,720 Speaker 1: good will rather than them and then sacrificing a hell 509 00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:37,400 Speaker 1: of a lot of their you know, now some economic 510 00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:39,320 Speaker 1: value and all of that kind of stuff. So look, 511 00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:41,800 Speaker 1: I think it's it would be nice, but it's it's 512 00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:45,560 Speaker 1: it doesn't feel particularly realistic. But lots of lots of 513 00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:47,720 Speaker 1: bloody good thoughts in there. And yeah, a couple of 514 00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:51,000 Speaker 1: interesting names. Nathan Smith is a is a really interesting one. 515 00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:53,800 Speaker 1: I've seen him play a lot. I think he's a 516 00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:57,360 Speaker 1: real contender. And yeah, Mitchell Hay haven't seen him play 517 00:26:57,400 --> 00:26:59,159 Speaker 1: too much, but definitely one to keep an eye on 518 00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:03,680 Speaker 1: over the over the Mystic summer. Hey, DC, I don't 519 00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:06,600 Speaker 1: know if you've caught much of the Pakistan versus England 520 00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:09,639 Speaker 1: game overnight. I love the last couple of days. Oh, 521 00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:11,040 Speaker 1: good work, good work, and I had to do a 522 00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:12,600 Speaker 1: bit of foss king to find out the best way 523 00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:14,920 Speaker 1: to watch that. A couple of things that caught my eye. 524 00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:17,439 Speaker 4: One was I don't know if you saw it, it 525 00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:19,720 Speaker 4: was quite a well first of all, I should go 526 00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:22,680 Speaker 4: to the school cud Pakistan five hundred and fifty six, massive, 527 00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:26,359 Speaker 4: massive score and then England in reply ninety six for 528 00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:28,359 Speaker 4: one absolute mayhem at the end of the. 529 00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:33,360 Speaker 1: Game last night. All sorts of carnage, drop catchers and 530 00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:35,920 Speaker 1: all sorts of stuff, hand injuries to Ben dug it. 531 00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:38,320 Speaker 1: But there was I don't know if you've seen. There's 532 00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:41,760 Speaker 1: quite an interesting interview between Mike Atherton and Brendan McCullum 533 00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:45,359 Speaker 1: about where the bowling mentor is. Of course, the bowling 534 00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:49,679 Speaker 1: mentor is James Anderson, who is playing golf in Scotland 535 00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:52,880 Speaker 1: and the Alfred Dunhill Links Championship, and he's done quite 536 00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:56,000 Speaker 1: well and made the cut, so he's decided to stay 537 00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:58,480 Speaker 1: on because he's really pleased with his form and didn't 538 00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:00,639 Speaker 1: make it to the Test match in time, which was 539 00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:04,040 Speaker 1: quite unusual. Mike Everton, as you would expect quite annoyed, 540 00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:08,080 Speaker 1: quite genuinely annoyed, and Britta McCullum could not have cared less. 541 00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:10,399 Speaker 1: It was quite extraordinary, to be honest. 542 00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:13,240 Speaker 3: That whole role sounds just like a sinecure, right, It 543 00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:16,439 Speaker 3: sounds like, Okay, I know you don't want to retire 544 00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:18,840 Speaker 3: just yet, but we need you to retire to bring 545 00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:19,600 Speaker 3: some youth through. 546 00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:21,120 Speaker 2: But here's what we're going to do for you. 547 00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:25,000 Speaker 3: You can have the title of bowling mentor and basically 548 00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:26,920 Speaker 3: come along for the ride. So I'm sure Bears is 549 00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:30,119 Speaker 3: not really missing a hell of a lot by Jimmy 550 00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:33,440 Speaker 3: Anderson making the cut of the Alfred Dunhill links and. 551 00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:34,879 Speaker 1: It was it was a little bit like what we 552 00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:37,919 Speaker 1: just talked about in relation to, you know, those New 553 00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:41,800 Speaker 1: Zealand Stars, Stars of Days gone by. McCullum was a 554 00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:44,080 Speaker 1: very matter of fact. He said, we'll take whatever we 555 00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:46,040 Speaker 1: can get from Jimmy. We're just really stuck that he's 556 00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:47,719 Speaker 1: going to be joining us at all. He doesn't have 557 00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:49,520 Speaker 1: to be coming here. He could be sitting at home 558 00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:53,400 Speaker 1: with his family. That's the point, right, So yeah, yeah, 559 00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:55,720 Speaker 1: interesting one, interesting one to keep an eye looks like 560 00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:56,920 Speaker 1: a bit of a road over there. 561 00:28:56,960 --> 00:29:00,160 Speaker 3: So the easiest place to watch that for listeners is 562 00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:02,920 Speaker 3: just go to YouTube and put in England versus Pakistan. 563 00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:07,320 Speaker 3: It comes up almost immediately. It'll have a chat along 564 00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:09,400 Speaker 3: the side of it. You just push the cross, get 565 00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:11,320 Speaker 3: rid of the chat and you've just got full screen 566 00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:14,760 Speaker 3: chess cricket live streaming through YouTube and as far as 567 00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:15,920 Speaker 3: I can see, it's not illegal. 568 00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:18,680 Speaker 2: No one else, no one else is streaming it. 569 00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:22,320 Speaker 1: So and you know, if you need a New Zealand 570 00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:25,280 Speaker 1: reason to tune in. Chris Kaffney is standing in that 571 00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:26,960 Speaker 1: match and he had a well, no, he's not actually 572 00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:28,960 Speaker 1: up on the TV in the box, isn't it? Yeah, 573 00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:31,520 Speaker 1: tv umpire and he had an interesting decision to make 574 00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:36,440 Speaker 1: last night. When was it? Selman came down and pounded 575 00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:39,640 Speaker 1: Jack Leech out to the fence and Chris Workes took 576 00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:42,120 Speaker 1: a screamer of a catch one hundred and seventeenth over 577 00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:45,160 Speaker 1: I think it was he sort of pedaled backwards, took 578 00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:46,560 Speaker 1: the catch and then threw the ball in the air 579 00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:49,120 Speaker 1: and stepped back onto the boundary rope. I think the 580 00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:51,400 Speaker 1: batsman started walking off and then it got reviewed to 581 00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:57,240 Speaker 1: death and the decision was made that that he had 582 00:29:57,280 --> 00:30:00,400 Speaker 1: touched the ball and his foot was on the round 583 00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:05,800 Speaker 1: outside the playing oval, so so close and look. 584 00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:07,520 Speaker 3: I watched it a number of times and it was 585 00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:10,360 Speaker 3: one of those occasions that, no matter how good technology is, 586 00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:14,000 Speaker 3: that just wasn't quite enough frames per second. I think 587 00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:17,160 Speaker 3: he probably caught it. I think he probably did lift 588 00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:21,080 Speaker 3: that foot just in time, but that frame wasn't captured, 589 00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:24,280 Speaker 3: so you could only go back one and more and 590 00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:27,720 Speaker 3: his foot was still on the ground and it looked 591 00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:30,080 Speaker 3: like the ball was about to enter his hands. So 592 00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:32,600 Speaker 3: I think Gaffney did the only thing he could do. 593 00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:35,400 Speaker 3: Probably been curse being put in that position. I think 594 00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:38,600 Speaker 3: he was on nineteen at the time. That took him 595 00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:40,520 Speaker 3: to twenty five when they awarded him the six, and 596 00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:44,360 Speaker 3: he ended up with one hundred, so it was costly, 597 00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:46,080 Speaker 3: you know, if. 598 00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:49,240 Speaker 1: You're playing that. So say that that exact situation happens 599 00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:52,000 Speaker 1: in its club cricket? What happens in that because obviously 600 00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:54,680 Speaker 1: no one's filmed it. Do you reckon on? Would it 601 00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:56,480 Speaker 1: come down to just an argument between the captains and 602 00:30:56,480 --> 00:31:01,280 Speaker 1: whoever the most alpha captain, the most alpha captain would win. 603 00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:06,640 Speaker 3: You usually take the fielder's word for it, but that's 604 00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:08,240 Speaker 3: a little bit different because it would have been on 605 00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:10,440 Speaker 3: the boundary in club cricket, right in front of the 606 00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:12,840 Speaker 3: batting team who were sitting there, so they would have 607 00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:15,720 Speaker 3: been yelling out sex, sex, sex, and the fielder would 608 00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:17,400 Speaker 3: have been going no, no, I caught it. So it 609 00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:21,880 Speaker 3: ended up with a cricket violence corner scenario probably. 610 00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:24,840 Speaker 1: Oh nice. 611 00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:25,120 Speaker 3: Hey. 612 00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:28,560 Speaker 1: Another thing that caught my eye this week, just quickly, 613 00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:31,200 Speaker 1: just a quick, just a quick acknowledgment of this was 614 00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:33,520 Speaker 1: Louis Vincent I see is going to be turning out 615 00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:37,360 Speaker 1: in the black clash next over the seat over the summer, 616 00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:40,160 Speaker 1: which is which is awesome. You know, I don't know 617 00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:42,200 Speaker 1: how you feel about this. DC keem to get your thoughts, 618 00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:44,040 Speaker 1: and he's obviously I think, played a little bit for 619 00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:46,960 Speaker 1: the cent cricket club. But it does feel like the 620 00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:50,520 Speaker 1: redemption arc for lou Is fully complete with him coming 621 00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:52,600 Speaker 1: back onto that quasi international scene. 622 00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:55,200 Speaker 3: Oh look, I'm bloody please for him. He did an 623 00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:59,480 Speaker 3: unbelievably stupid thing. How he got to that point in 624 00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:06,040 Speaker 3: his life is tragic, and you know, the circumstances around 625 00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:10,000 Speaker 3: it were tragic, but can't alter the fact that he 626 00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:13,600 Speaker 3: made some choices that were. 627 00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:13,600 Speaker 2: Just beyond stupid. 628 00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:17,800 Speaker 3: He paid a massive penalty for that, but the eleven 629 00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:20,920 Speaker 3: life bands was ridiculous and we're at a good place 630 00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:23,440 Speaker 3: now where he can do a lot of good for cricket. 631 00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:25,280 Speaker 3: Cricket can do a hell a lot of good for him. 632 00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:27,640 Speaker 3: It's a win win as far as I'm concerned. So 633 00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:29,160 Speaker 3: I'm delighted to see him pact. 634 00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:34,240 Speaker 1: Yes, of course, that first eleven of bands was lifted 635 00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:37,000 Speaker 1: last year, and yeah, I agree with you. It felt 636 00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:40,680 Speaker 1: like he was at a low web. He had made 637 00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:42,960 Speaker 1: a terrible some terrible decisions and the punishment never quite 638 00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:45,360 Speaker 1: fitted the crime. I know that the Cricket Players Association 639 00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:48,960 Speaker 1: have done quite a bit of work rehabbing lou back 640 00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:52,240 Speaker 1: onto the back, onto the stage, and yeah, be great 641 00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:54,280 Speaker 1: to see him out there. Hopefully he loses his decks 642 00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:55,920 Speaker 1: like I remember he did when his pants came off 643 00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:58,520 Speaker 1: at Eden Park sliding to save the boundary. I think 644 00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:02,400 Speaker 1: it was absolutely since sational piece of fielding and speaking 645 00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:04,479 Speaker 1: of sensational cricketers. And when we come back, we're going 646 00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:07,720 Speaker 1: to acknowledge a bit of a legend from a day's 647 00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:10,000 Speaker 1: gone by, and he sadly passed away. We'll be back shortly. 648 00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:14,600 Speaker 1: Welcome back to the b YC. You're with Dylan Clever 649 00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:19,000 Speaker 1: and Paul Fordham DC. We've lost We've lost an important 650 00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:21,480 Speaker 1: cricketer in New Zealand, in New Zealand history. 651 00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:27,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, this week Havevale Brian Hale. Sorry, Brian Hastings. Kriko 652 00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:31,520 Speaker 3: wrote about him. Strongly built and prematurely baled, Brian Hastings 653 00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:33,920 Speaker 3: was a delightful timer of the ball, quick to take 654 00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:36,600 Speaker 3: any opportunity to cattle hook or to clip fast medium 655 00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:39,720 Speaker 3: bowling off his legs, A superb gully. He started with 656 00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:43,040 Speaker 3: Wellington at seventeen and was New Zealand's regular number four 657 00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:45,760 Speaker 3: in the early nineteen seventies. A couple of things about that. 658 00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:49,040 Speaker 3: It's it's interesting to be One of the things you're 659 00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:53,640 Speaker 3: known for is being prematurely baled. And also it didn't 660 00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:56,080 Speaker 3: What it doesn't say there is that he might have 661 00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:58,400 Speaker 3: played for Wellington at seventeen, but he didn't play for 662 00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:01,080 Speaker 3: New Zealand until he was twenty eight. It took him 663 00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:03,520 Speaker 3: eleven years of first class cracket before he got selected. 664 00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:07,560 Speaker 3: He was almost an overnight success once he got there. 665 00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:10,759 Speaker 3: Four Test tons at a time when New Zealanders didn't 666 00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:13,720 Speaker 3: score a lot of Test tons. He had a world 667 00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:16,520 Speaker 3: record stand with Richard Collins one hundred and fifty one 668 00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:22,480 Speaker 3: for the tenth wicket. Just apparently a terrific guy. He 669 00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:27,480 Speaker 3: made a vital. Actually his last year was quite interesting. 670 00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:30,040 Speaker 3: He scored a ton against Australia at the Basin Reserve 671 00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:34,719 Speaker 3: in a Test match in which the Chapel Brothers scored hundreds, 672 00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:38,040 Speaker 3: and both innings of that Test it was drawn. They 673 00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:41,680 Speaker 3: went to christ Church. He scored a vital forty six 674 00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:43,680 Speaker 3: in the second innings of the first Test. 675 00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:46,600 Speaker 2: New Zealand beat Australia. So that was ninety seventy. 676 00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:49,480 Speaker 3: Four christ Church and then after that his scores went 677 00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:54,040 Speaker 3: zero won thirteen zero zero eight one and he was gone. 678 00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:57,680 Speaker 2: That was but yeah, really good player. 679 00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:00,080 Speaker 3: He had a son, Mark who also tragically passed the 680 00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:01,600 Speaker 3: way a couple of years ago, who was a first 681 00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:05,919 Speaker 3: class cricketer. But yeah, a big name in the history 682 00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:06,840 Speaker 3: of New Zealand cricket. 683 00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:11,080 Speaker 1: Yep. And I think he was if I have researched correctly, 684 00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:14,480 Speaker 1: pretty sure he was at put on a glorious partnership 685 00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:18,439 Speaker 1: with Glenn Turner for that news. That first ever Test 686 00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:22,480 Speaker 1: victory against Australia was ken Kenny Wadsworth. It the winning 687 00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:25,399 Speaker 1: runs that day, and there's a great yarn about Ian 688 00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:29,080 Speaker 1: spectator picking that ball up and the Australian player, Ian Redpath, 689 00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:31,359 Speaker 1: tracking down the spectator and getting the ball, and then 690 00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:34,440 Speaker 1: he gave the ball to Brian Hastings. And then if 691 00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:37,480 Speaker 1: you're ever down in the Hagley Oval, that ball was 692 00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:41,880 Speaker 1: presented by the Hastings family to their collection. So if 693 00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:43,960 Speaker 1: you're ever down at the Hagley over over pavilion, have 694 00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:47,000 Speaker 1: a little exquisite that in a little nice touch there 695 00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:51,040 Speaker 1: from the from the Hastings family. But yeah, I hope 696 00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:54,680 Speaker 1: his family are all doing okay. I guess we swing 697 00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:57,320 Speaker 1: from the so Bryant's, from the the Brian to the 698 00:35:57,400 --> 00:35:59,680 Speaker 1: ridiculous with this one. It might be time for a 699 00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:03,520 Speaker 1: little bit of violence corner. They said, Yeah, Paul Ford's 700 00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:07,520 Speaker 1: cricket violence corner. It's not too violent. I just I 701 00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:09,080 Speaker 1: just didn't, you know, after that last tight I just 702 00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:11,880 Speaker 1: didn't need it to be too violent. So it's just 703 00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:14,240 Speaker 1: a weird one. And arrest warrant has been issued against 704 00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:17,359 Speaker 1: Oupul Taranga, the chairman of the selection committee of Sri 705 00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:20,760 Speaker 1: Lankan Cricket, after he failed to appear in court yesterday, 706 00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:23,840 Speaker 1: which sounds dodgy. The Matale High Court has issued the 707 00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:25,880 Speaker 1: warrant for the police to arrest him and produce him 708 00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:29,080 Speaker 1: before the court in connection to an ongoing match fixing 709 00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:33,280 Speaker 1: legal case which sounds dodgy based on a complaint initially 710 00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:37,640 Speaker 1: filed by him involving the Legends Cricket Trophy twenty twenty 711 00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:41,480 Speaker 1: four League tournament at Pallacali Stadium in Candy in March 712 00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:44,400 Speaker 1: twenty twenty four. He obviously just forgot to turn up 713 00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:47,280 Speaker 1: to court and the court is not very pleased with them. 714 00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:49,400 Speaker 1: The great thing is that he is currently in the 715 00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:54,480 Speaker 1: United States participating in a Master's Legends Franchise cricket tournament. 716 00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:58,840 Speaker 1: So yes, an interesting one when the Chairman of Selectors 717 00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:03,360 Speaker 1: has neglected to turn up to pursue his case about 718 00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:08,200 Speaker 1: match fixing DC we had some who am I? Last week? 719 00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:10,879 Speaker 1: How did the punters get on? Yeah? 720 00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:14,200 Speaker 2: Okay, so last week, but who am I? 721 00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:19,480 Speaker 3: Was? Noel McGregor, a dashing bat from Otago and congrats 722 00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:24,279 Speaker 3: to Simon Porter and Lockey Always Lockey who emailed him 723 00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:26,480 Speaker 3: with the correct dancers. But the real winner of the 724 00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:32,799 Speaker 3: week was Alex King, who wrote, kuit I believe this 725 00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:34,960 Speaker 3: week's who am I is New Zealand Cricketer of the 726 00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:38,440 Speaker 3: Year nineteen sixty eight Noel McGregor. As an aside and 727 00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:41,239 Speaker 3: quite possibly the most boring correspondence to have ever been 728 00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:45,400 Speaker 3: sent of slowly collected photos of street signs across Tummocky 729 00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:51,359 Speaker 3: and a few outside to create an all New Zealand eleven. Regrettably, 730 00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:54,840 Speaker 3: there aren't too many Crovit Tory, Hadley, McCallum, Soudy or 731 00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:57,239 Speaker 3: Bolt streets in this part of the world. But he 732 00:37:57,280 --> 00:38:02,160 Speaker 3: has sent a photo of signs of richardson a fleming 733 00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:06,120 Speaker 3: of others, and I just think there's absolutely magnificent Alex. 734 00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:11,320 Speaker 3: And Paul's actually done some research himself and has found 735 00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:12,880 Speaker 3: a for Tory drive, haven't you. 736 00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:15,040 Speaker 1: Yes, I have. I was just trying to remember what 737 00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:16,440 Speaker 1: I think it was in Michigan. 738 00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:20,480 Speaker 3: It was Wisconsin, I believe, right on the shores of 739 00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:23,279 Speaker 3: one of the great lakes there, and it led down 740 00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:25,920 Speaker 3: to a bay called Misery Bay, which I thought was 741 00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:33,640 Speaker 3: but harsh on Daniel, But anyway, I digress peak. 742 00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:37,560 Speaker 1: Peak peak nerdery from you, Alex King. We respect it 743 00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:40,359 Speaker 1: and we love it. And just a special shout out 744 00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:43,960 Speaker 1: to Locke who him and his dad always are bloody 745 00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:47,400 Speaker 1: good on these cricket trivia questions and your locky good 746 00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:49,880 Speaker 1: luck with the pre season. Hopefully your dad's got a 747 00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:53,640 Speaker 1: good wanger and you're shaping up magnificently for this for 748 00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:56,960 Speaker 1: an upcoming for upcoming success and the season. If you 749 00:38:56,960 --> 00:39:00,160 Speaker 1: guys are as good on the in the nets you 750 00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:01,920 Speaker 1: are with the cricketure via beat and for an exsolute 751 00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:03,200 Speaker 1: hunting of a season. 752 00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:05,799 Speaker 3: I suspect I, suspect Lucky and his dad are going 753 00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:08,759 Speaker 3: to have no problems at all getting this one. You're 754 00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:11,600 Speaker 3: obviously not banned from answering, but you might not necessarily 755 00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:13,279 Speaker 3: necessarily be read out as. 756 00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:15,960 Speaker 2: The winner anyway. Who am I? 757 00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:19,279 Speaker 3: I wasn't ever present in on the wireless during the 758 00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:23,120 Speaker 3: golden years of sports roundup, chipping in on grounds as 759 00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:28,040 Speaker 3: far spread as Harryback Reserve, Seddon Park and Blake Park, 760 00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:31,040 Speaker 3: which was just across the Chaim Ice from my place 761 00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:34,319 Speaker 3: of birth. I played seven tests and might have been 762 00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:37,160 Speaker 3: a little unlucky that only two of them came in 763 00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:40,439 Speaker 3: home conditions. After all, I'd love to see how you'd 764 00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:44,720 Speaker 3: have gone up against Baby Chandrashaker and Venkat at their peak. 765 00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:49,160 Speaker 2: There is no bitterness. As an all rounder, my bowling probably. 766 00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:52,440 Speaker 3: Lacked penetration against the very best, though I might have 767 00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:54,960 Speaker 3: made it as a batter alone with a little bit 768 00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:58,680 Speaker 3: more patience from the selectors. I stayed with cricket once 769 00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:03,040 Speaker 3: my seventeen hour year first class career ended all for 770 00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:07,840 Speaker 3: one association. I moved into coaching and stayed in club cricket. 771 00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:11,240 Speaker 3: My last stint at the crease netted me forty odd 772 00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:11,840 Speaker 3: for Corory. 773 00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:13,200 Speaker 2: But little did. 774 00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:15,720 Speaker 3: I know all my teammates that there was a ticking 775 00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:19,680 Speaker 3: time mom in my chest which exploded the following week 776 00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:27,000 Speaker 3: while jogging. You know, have a grim waiting in That really, 777 00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:29,359 Speaker 3: wasn't it. I really need to give myself a clip 778 00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:30,960 Speaker 3: around the years that because I don't. 779 00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:34,320 Speaker 1: Know I've got this correct. I'm pretty sure have he 780 00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:35,960 Speaker 1: born in the Thames Valley and I think went to 781 00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:39,000 Speaker 1: Saint Paul's Collegiate. I think that's correct. I'm seeing his 782 00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:42,080 Speaker 1: name on the wall at mild Schools, so you are correct. 783 00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:44,320 Speaker 1: Bit of allegid, bit of a legend. 784 00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:47,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, I just remember tuning in as I should make 785 00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:49,040 Speaker 3: that clear because I might have made him sound like 786 00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:52,759 Speaker 3: a commentator there initially, but I remembered the glory days 787 00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:56,120 Speaker 3: of sports round up traveling around in the holding Kingswood, 788 00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:59,520 Speaker 3: and he just always seemed to be featuring. 789 00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:03,000 Speaker 2: As a player, not a commentator. So that is what 790 00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:03,720 Speaker 2: I meant by. 791 00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:07,360 Speaker 1: That outstanding flickers an email if you know who that 792 00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:10,200 Speaker 1: is to b YC at Beaserigade dot co dot nz 793 00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:13,120 Speaker 1: or slide into the DMS of the Alternative Commentary Collective 794 00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:17,439 Speaker 1: or the bees Brigade on Instagram or Facebook and yeah 795 00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:20,640 Speaker 1: that some cricket trivia or just anything that might be 796 00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:24,040 Speaker 1: on your mind. I think that's us. Dylan Pleaver, thanks 797 00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:26,520 Speaker 1: for joining us this Speak's b y C podcast. We'll 798 00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:29,920 Speaker 1: go get Jason Hood out of his deep dark, despairing depression, 799 00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:33,360 Speaker 1: just back to life in time to preview the first 800 00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:35,879 Speaker 1: Test against India next week, which I'm sure we'll really 801 00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:38,320 Speaker 1: cheer them up. Yes, So if you've got anything to 802 00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:39,840 Speaker 1: get off your chest in the meantime, send us a 803 00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:43,680 Speaker 1: short die Tribe in the meantime from Dylan and I. 804 00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:47,319 Speaker 1: It's a martyr wis al kia kaha and take care 805 00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:47,719 Speaker 1: out there.