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Speaker 1: So with the death of takatitash KEMP, we face a

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Speaker 1: by election. Of course, given she was an electorate MP,

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Speaker 1: you will remember it was a tight and still contentious

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Speaker 1: fight that she won up for a recount by forty

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Speaker 1: two votes over Labours Penny Henna roy a Tiger University

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Speaker 1: lawd Professor Andrew Geedis is back with the Andrew very

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Speaker 1: good morning to you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, good morning, mikee.

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Speaker 1: The mechanics of the Parliament as a result of an

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Speaker 1: electorate versus a list MP dying, does it change it

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Speaker 1: all between now in the vote?

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Speaker 2: No? Well, I mean it means it's one less MP

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Speaker 2: until the by election is held, so we're down to

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Speaker 2: one twenty two MP's instead of one twenty three. But

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Speaker 2: that's really the only change in terms of the way

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Speaker 2: parliament will work.

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Speaker 1: And theoretical question I know. But nevertheless, if the electorate

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Speaker 1: had been a government electorate and they needed the vote,

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Speaker 1: what would happen.

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Speaker 2: This is one of the really interesting questions with our

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Speaker 2: MMP system. What it would mean is you would have

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Speaker 2: had a tied parliament that the government would have been

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Speaker 2: able to live, but it wouldn't have had a majority

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Speaker 2: until the by election and of course, if it lost

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Speaker 2: the by election and that being changed the majority in parliament,

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Speaker 2: you would have a government that would no longer be

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Speaker 2: able to govern exactly.

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Speaker 1: So in this case, none of that happens. But what

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Speaker 1: we do have is an ongoing investigation into a situation.

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Speaker 1: Do you think that'll drive interest in the by election

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Speaker 1: as a by election?

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Speaker 2: I think the by election itself is going to generate

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Speaker 2: the interest. We're probably going to see a fairly strong

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Speaker 2: fight between Labor and to Patti mari over this, especially

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Speaker 2: if Penne Henry does stand for Labor. He's got such

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Speaker 2: a high profile two clashing ideas about how Marigam should

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Speaker 2: go forward, you know, whether within Labor and kind of

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Speaker 2: within the system or a direct challenge to the system

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Speaker 2: through to Patty Mariy. The only interesting thing with that

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Speaker 2: being held in Auckland is, of course we've got the

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Speaker 2: local elections coming up with October, so these two things

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Speaker 2: are going to run into each other a week bit,

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Speaker 2: so you're going to see Aucklanders with a lot of

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Speaker 2: election you're in gooing on exactly.

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Speaker 1: Having said all of that, does the controvery social nature

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Speaker 1: and the forty two votes play in and what happens

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Speaker 1: if the report, which is the Serious Fraud Office, comes

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Speaker 1: back in the ensuing period with something dramatic.

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Speaker 2: Well, of course, you know, with political you never quite

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Speaker 2: know what's going to happen. But yeah, certainly, if the

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Speaker 2: Serious Fraught Office did start to bring charges against people,

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Speaker 2: especially anyone involved into Patti Mari, that will enter into

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Speaker 2: the electoral calculus. We do know the fact that it

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Speaker 2: was only forty two votes means that you know it's

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Speaker 2: going to be a very tight run thing. The other

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Speaker 2: complicating factor, or a different factor this time, of course,

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Speaker 2: is going to be the sympathy factor. I suspect Party

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Speaker 2: Mari will run very strongly in a kind of legacy argument,

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Speaker 2: you know, let's honor the cdmp's name by you know,

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Speaker 2: we're placing her with a Patty Mari person. So all

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Speaker 2: of those things go into the politic of it all.

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Speaker 1: Great inside, Andrew, you have a good week. I appreciate

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Speaker 1: it as always, Andrew get As at Tiger University law professor.

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