1 00:00:07,133 --> 00:00:10,453 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack Team podcast 2 00:00:10,613 --> 00:00:11,733 Speaker 1: from News Talks at B. 3 00:00:13,013 --> 00:00:15,333 Speaker 2: Thank you for your text, Hi, FRANCISCA, huge congrads to 4 00:00:15,373 --> 00:00:17,493 Speaker 2: Liam Lawson and his family. No one can understand the 5 00:00:17,533 --> 00:00:21,093 Speaker 2: pressure the knock can understand the pressure the knockers not 6 00:00:21,133 --> 00:00:23,573 Speaker 2: to mention the financial commitment while you're trying to make 7 00:00:23,613 --> 00:00:25,813 Speaker 2: the great and motor racing. As a parent or as 8 00:00:25,853 --> 00:00:29,893 Speaker 2: a competitor, trust me, we fully relate to this. So huge, 9 00:00:29,973 --> 00:00:36,213 Speaker 2: huge congratulations to the Lawson family and the McLoughlin's and 10 00:00:36,253 --> 00:00:39,173 Speaker 2: Scott's parents and everybody involved. Thank you very much for 11 00:00:39,253 --> 00:00:41,853 Speaker 2: your text and joining us now to talk sport is 12 00:00:41,973 --> 00:00:42,813 Speaker 2: Andrew Saville. 13 00:00:42,853 --> 00:00:47,013 Speaker 3: Good morning, Francesca. Merry Christmas to you and to you too. 14 00:00:47,453 --> 00:00:49,893 Speaker 2: I was just saying, you know, it's amazing. It takes 15 00:00:50,333 --> 00:00:53,093 Speaker 2: quick announcements made about Liam Lawson and all, and the 16 00:00:53,133 --> 00:00:54,693 Speaker 2: haters come out, and the knock has come out and 17 00:00:54,693 --> 00:00:56,093 Speaker 2: all the kind of things. I'm just going to stop 18 00:00:56,133 --> 00:00:58,773 Speaker 2: for a minute, regardless of what you think of him 19 00:00:58,813 --> 00:01:02,773 Speaker 2: as a driver, regardless of what you think of the team. Actually, 20 00:01:02,853 --> 00:01:04,053 Speaker 2: this is huge. 21 00:01:05,133 --> 00:01:07,133 Speaker 3: It is it is. I think I've got to imagine 22 00:01:07,333 --> 00:01:10,213 Speaker 3: I'd imagine that a very very high percentage of those 23 00:01:10,293 --> 00:01:13,973 Speaker 3: knockers or haters, if they can use that term, would 24 00:01:14,013 --> 00:01:19,413 Speaker 3: be from overseas, it would be Sergio Perez fans, maybe 25 00:01:19,493 --> 00:01:22,053 Speaker 3: Red Bull fans. There's no doubt about it though, that 26 00:01:22,053 --> 00:01:25,933 Speaker 3: Liam Lawson has got to where he's got because he's talented, 27 00:01:26,533 --> 00:01:30,533 Speaker 3: he's hard working, and red Ball for a long time, 28 00:01:30,693 --> 00:01:32,853 Speaker 3: five or six years, have clearly seen something in him 29 00:01:32,893 --> 00:01:39,093 Speaker 3: that they love, not necessarily driving, only driving on the track, 30 00:01:39,213 --> 00:01:42,253 Speaker 3: but the feedback, the engineering feedback he gives to teams. 31 00:01:42,293 --> 00:01:45,133 Speaker 3: He was their test driver, he's been the assimulating driver 32 00:01:45,253 --> 00:01:47,693 Speaker 3: for a number of years as well, and that all 33 00:01:47,733 --> 00:01:50,493 Speaker 3: adds in to the fact that he's now elevated to 34 00:01:52,213 --> 00:01:55,693 Speaker 3: the best team, even though they didn't win the constructors 35 00:01:55,693 --> 00:01:58,613 Speaker 3: title this year because of a staffan as the world champion, 36 00:01:58,653 --> 00:02:00,973 Speaker 3: I think it's what one of the best teams, if 37 00:02:01,013 --> 00:02:03,213 Speaker 3: not the best team they have been for several years. 38 00:02:03,253 --> 00:02:07,493 Speaker 3: So it's quite amazing, really quite remarkable for New Zealand 39 00:02:07,533 --> 00:02:10,413 Speaker 3: Sport and New Zealand to have a young kiw in 40 00:02:10,453 --> 00:02:14,693 Speaker 3: a position like that for the first time since Denny 41 00:02:14,733 --> 00:02:17,933 Speaker 3: Hulm and Bruce McLaren in the sixties, A long, long, 42 00:02:18,013 --> 00:02:22,093 Speaker 3: long time ago, Chris Aymon in the seventies. It's a 43 00:02:22,133 --> 00:02:26,293 Speaker 3: remarkable achievement and I don't think you can You can 44 00:02:26,333 --> 00:02:28,813 Speaker 3: try and put it into context around other sport, but 45 00:02:29,573 --> 00:02:35,733 Speaker 3: it's an infinitesimal percentage amount that a young New Zealand 46 00:02:35,813 --> 00:02:39,213 Speaker 3: kid gets to drive an F one let alone one 47 00:02:39,253 --> 00:02:42,613 Speaker 3: of the greatest teams in the history of Formula One. 48 00:02:43,293 --> 00:02:46,853 Speaker 3: So I think Liam and his family, his family has 49 00:02:46,933 --> 00:02:50,533 Speaker 3: worked bloody hard over the years, and his private backers 50 00:02:50,573 --> 00:02:52,053 Speaker 3: in New Zealand that have backed them all the way 51 00:02:52,053 --> 00:02:55,933 Speaker 3: from when he was a young kid. Because he has 52 00:02:55,973 --> 00:03:01,333 Speaker 3: been getting basically no money to drive. He's had to 53 00:03:01,373 --> 00:03:04,333 Speaker 3: have private sponsors look after from the last several years 54 00:03:04,333 --> 00:03:07,293 Speaker 3: to survive in Europe and his living and what have you. 55 00:03:08,013 --> 00:03:12,573 Speaker 3: That will now change when whether he's on the massive 56 00:03:12,613 --> 00:03:14,933 Speaker 3: millions that the staff and the Hamilton mat make, I 57 00:03:14,973 --> 00:03:17,013 Speaker 3: don't think at this point is or will be. 58 00:03:17,213 --> 00:03:19,213 Speaker 2: He's got time, Andrew, He's got time. 59 00:03:19,093 --> 00:03:20,893 Speaker 3: That's right. I mean, he's only twenty two and if 60 00:03:20,893 --> 00:03:23,293 Speaker 3: he performs next year and year after the year, that 61 00:03:23,373 --> 00:03:26,853 Speaker 3: that's when the big, big, big money will come for 62 00:03:26,933 --> 00:03:27,493 Speaker 3: Liam Lawson. 63 00:03:27,533 --> 00:03:28,893 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know if you heard me earlier, I 64 00:03:28,933 --> 00:03:30,973 Speaker 2: was saying that. I had the pleasure of talking to 65 00:03:30,973 --> 00:03:33,693 Speaker 2: Marcus Armstrong this year and I said to him, why 66 00:03:33,733 --> 00:03:35,533 Speaker 2: do you why do we have so many keywis at 67 00:03:35,533 --> 00:03:37,733 Speaker 2: the top of sort of Indy car or you know, 68 00:03:37,813 --> 00:03:39,733 Speaker 2: and now in Formula one and things. And he just 69 00:03:39,733 --> 00:03:43,173 Speaker 2: said to me, he said, it's because we make such 70 00:03:43,173 --> 00:03:46,293 Speaker 2: a huge sacrifice to follow our dream. You know, our 71 00:03:46,333 --> 00:03:49,093 Speaker 2: families make a sur price. We make that price. You can't. 72 00:03:49,413 --> 00:03:52,053 Speaker 2: You've just got to be in it. You have to succeed. 73 00:03:52,533 --> 00:03:54,773 Speaker 2: I thought that was a really interesting comment to make 74 00:03:54,853 --> 00:03:57,133 Speaker 2: you know that nothing's been handed to these guys. They have, 75 00:03:57,213 --> 00:04:01,773 Speaker 2: as you say, everything over the years. 76 00:04:01,773 --> 00:04:05,053 Speaker 3: Liam's family has put everything on the line and now 77 00:04:05,093 --> 00:04:11,133 Speaker 3: the rewards will come. Carting in New Zealand is strong, 78 00:04:11,213 --> 00:04:13,453 Speaker 3: and then the kids that perform and that go through 79 00:04:13,533 --> 00:04:16,333 Speaker 3: you know, but again there's been hundreds of kids that 80 00:04:16,373 --> 00:04:19,133 Speaker 3: go through carding and then to Europe and never and 81 00:04:19,213 --> 00:04:22,293 Speaker 3: never reached that that top goal of Formula one. It 82 00:04:22,373 --> 00:04:26,533 Speaker 3: is extremely hard to get a seat like Liam Lawson 83 00:04:26,573 --> 00:04:28,853 Speaker 3: has got Red Bulls, not doing it out of charity 84 00:04:28,893 --> 00:04:31,173 Speaker 3: or the goodness of their heart. Is very very cutthroat. 85 00:04:32,093 --> 00:04:33,613 Speaker 3: You have to be skilled, you have to be hard 86 00:04:33,613 --> 00:04:36,653 Speaker 3: working and you have to have a lot of support 87 00:04:36,653 --> 00:04:39,013 Speaker 3: around you and that's what Liam Lawson's had for many, 88 00:04:39,053 --> 00:04:39,733 Speaker 3: many years. 89 00:04:40,173 --> 00:04:42,773 Speaker 2: What are some of your other sporting highlights of the Andrew, 90 00:04:42,773 --> 00:04:43,653 Speaker 2: what have you enjoyed? 91 00:04:44,493 --> 00:04:46,493 Speaker 3: Gee whiz, there's been so many and looking through the 92 00:04:46,533 --> 00:04:49,373 Speaker 3: Hallberg finalists that came out the other day, it's been 93 00:04:49,613 --> 00:04:51,533 Speaker 3: it's been a fantastic year. And the Zealand sport. You 94 00:04:51,573 --> 00:04:55,213 Speaker 3: had the Olympics of course, best ever Metal Hall, Lisa Carrington, 95 00:04:55,253 --> 00:04:59,293 Speaker 3: Elise Andrews, Lydia Colem, a Twig and a Grimaldi in 96 00:04:59,333 --> 00:05:05,813 Speaker 3: the Power Games, Finn Butcher, Hamish Kerr, Hayden, Wild Blackfood 97 00:05:05,813 --> 00:05:10,293 Speaker 3: and seven a rowing team as well. Outside of that, 98 00:05:10,413 --> 00:05:14,053 Speaker 3: Emma Ratler, who's the world number one doubles player, Chris 99 00:05:14,093 --> 00:05:17,413 Speaker 3: Wood starring in the Premier League a little like Liam Lawson, 100 00:05:17,493 --> 00:05:21,293 Speaker 3: you know, it's a very very small percentage of footballers 101 00:05:21,413 --> 00:05:23,293 Speaker 3: from around the world to get to play in the APL, 102 00:05:23,413 --> 00:05:25,853 Speaker 3: let alone be a star in the Premier League in England, 103 00:05:25,853 --> 00:05:28,773 Speaker 3: and Chris Wood's one of those. Team New Zealand winning 104 00:05:28,773 --> 00:05:31,853 Speaker 3: the America's Cup again. White Ferns, don't forget the White 105 00:05:32,653 --> 00:05:37,133 Speaker 3: World Cup champs completely out of the blue that was 106 00:05:37,613 --> 00:05:40,173 Speaker 3: one of the other major sporting highlights. So all round, 107 00:05:40,173 --> 00:05:43,293 Speaker 3: I think it's been it's been a fantastic year. And 108 00:05:43,293 --> 00:05:46,413 Speaker 3: then if we look to twenty twenty five, starting with 109 00:05:47,853 --> 00:05:51,133 Speaker 3: the first Grand Prix March, all eyes are going to 110 00:05:51,133 --> 00:05:52,973 Speaker 3: be on Liam Lawson. Then there's a lot of other 111 00:05:53,013 --> 00:05:55,653 Speaker 3: sport during the year which we will focus our attention. 112 00:05:55,613 --> 00:05:58,093 Speaker 2: And it's been great to see Auckland FC take off 113 00:05:58,333 --> 00:05:59,733 Speaker 2: as strong. 114 00:06:00,133 --> 00:06:04,093 Speaker 3: Today in Auckland Western United, which is a team from 115 00:06:04,133 --> 00:06:07,373 Speaker 3: just out of Melbourne. Mate, I think they tick off 116 00:06:07,373 --> 00:06:10,213 Speaker 3: about five o'clock and yeah, they've They've done some fantastic 117 00:06:10,293 --> 00:06:13,933 Speaker 3: things will we So looking forward to the summer ahead, 118 00:06:13,973 --> 00:06:16,853 Speaker 3: You've got the tennis willing to Phoenix aalk, the f 119 00:06:16,933 --> 00:06:20,133 Speaker 3: C sale GP in Auckland and mid jan a lot 120 00:06:20,133 --> 00:06:21,453 Speaker 3: of a lot of things to look forward to other 121 00:06:21,493 --> 00:06:24,253 Speaker 3: summer the next year. But I think a lot of 122 00:06:24,293 --> 00:06:26,693 Speaker 3: New Zealanders will now become instant if one fans they 123 00:06:26,693 --> 00:06:27,293 Speaker 3: haven't already. 124 00:06:27,853 --> 00:06:31,933 Speaker 2: Francesca absolutely absolutely, yeah, why not when you've got you know, 125 00:06:32,853 --> 00:06:36,533 Speaker 2: you've got you know, you've got a key to survive. 126 00:06:36,733 --> 00:06:41,013 Speaker 3: Yes, But Netflix crew were following Leam Lawson around last 127 00:06:41,053 --> 00:06:43,973 Speaker 3: summer back in New Zealand, so I think that might 128 00:06:44,013 --> 00:06:46,373 Speaker 3: have been a little indication that big things were ahead 129 00:06:46,413 --> 00:06:46,733 Speaker 3: for them. 130 00:06:46,813 --> 00:06:49,293 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, and that it is a brilliant way to 131 00:06:49,333 --> 00:06:53,373 Speaker 2: introduce people to the sport. I've got a daughter who's 132 00:06:53,453 --> 00:06:56,333 Speaker 2: pretty obsessed with F one, but you know, we don't. 133 00:06:56,373 --> 00:06:58,213 Speaker 2: We don't do Drive to Survive anymore because it doesn't 134 00:06:58,213 --> 00:07:00,293 Speaker 2: give you the real story. She'll tell you the people 135 00:07:00,293 --> 00:07:02,813 Speaker 2: you need to go to to follow Andrew in order 136 00:07:02,853 --> 00:07:03,613 Speaker 2: to get the story. 137 00:07:03,693 --> 00:07:03,813 Speaker 1: You know. 138 00:07:03,853 --> 00:07:05,733 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, no, I'm very much put in my place. 139 00:07:05,733 --> 00:07:07,933 Speaker 2: Every time I mentioned how much I enjoyed Drive to Slash. 140 00:07:07,813 --> 00:07:10,373 Speaker 3: Just sort of oh, really, that's fantastic. 141 00:07:10,813 --> 00:07:14,053 Speaker 2: Andrew, have a really great break with the family. Thanks 142 00:07:14,053 --> 00:07:17,653 Speaker 2: for the contribution to the year. Always wonderful to hear 143 00:07:17,693 --> 00:07:20,213 Speaker 2: your thoughts on sport. Will you be participating in any 144 00:07:20,253 --> 00:07:21,213 Speaker 2: sport over the summer? 145 00:07:22,533 --> 00:07:28,213 Speaker 3: It's competitive eating, you take it, you take it. I'd 146 00:07:28,213 --> 00:07:30,533 Speaker 3: probably go for gold on that the next couple of weeks, 147 00:07:31,053 --> 00:07:33,973 Speaker 3: and then apart from that it'll be in the sun 148 00:07:35,613 --> 00:07:39,133 Speaker 3: in christ Church or the far North and then back 149 00:07:39,133 --> 00:07:41,213 Speaker 3: into the sporting year. Looking forward to it. 150 00:07:41,213 --> 00:07:43,293 Speaker 2: It sounds divine. Thanks so much, Andrew. 151 00:07:44,093 --> 00:07:47,213 Speaker 1: For more from Saturday Morning with Jack Tame, Listen live 152 00:07:47,293 --> 00:07:50,093 Speaker 1: to news talks that'd be from nine am Saturday, or 153 00:07:50,173 --> 00:07:52,093 Speaker 1: follow the podcast on iHeartRadio