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Speaker 1: The Mike Hosking Break Best with Veda, Retirement Communities, Life

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Speaker 1: Your Way News, togs Head, Been Bunny.

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Speaker 2: And welcome today. Get another look into our health system

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Speaker 2: it tells us shock horror, it's actually tracking. Okay. Now

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Speaker 2: we've got big success for the government as well on

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Speaker 2: cutting down on consultancies spending, Insights into our sense of grievance.

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Speaker 2: Small clue, We're full of it. Gruben Stadters are Liam's

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Speaker 2: officially gaining to racing balls Timicating to the week, Richard

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Speaker 2: Arnold's Stateside, Murray Olds and Oz's elbow calls the Big

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Speaker 2: One pasking right, oh, seven past six. The most uplifting

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Speaker 2: part of the week for me anyway in terms of

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Speaker 2: news was the combination of Winston Peters and as very

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Speaker 2: wise words the other day on diet and work in

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Speaker 2: the release of the numbers from the Stats Department of

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Speaker 2: those who are working beyond sixty five in fact, not

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Speaker 2: just sixty five, but seventy eighty and ninety. For Peters,

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Speaker 2: who made the advice so useful, is you can argue

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Speaker 2: he's never been more relevant and more effective. Age is

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Speaker 2: one thing but performance is another. Take politics out of it.

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Speaker 2: He would be the match for any one in the

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Speaker 2: current political game. There would be few, if any, that

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Speaker 2: would question his work ethic, the miles he's covering, the

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Speaker 2: effort he's making and putting us back on the international map,

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Speaker 2: and he's doing so at almost eighty. The trouble with

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Speaker 2: age as we still focus on the number. Say whatever

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Speaker 2: you want about Trump, but he's a good seventy eight,

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Speaker 2: while Biden was a very poor eighty two. In fact,

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Speaker 2: I'm surprised that sixty five is still a thing. It

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Speaker 2: only gets attention because, of course superannuation. There's an official

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Speaker 2: attachment to the age. You get money for a so

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Speaker 2: called life of work, you can retire year old, you

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Speaker 2: get a gold card for a ferry ride. The really

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Speaker 2: upbeat aspect of all of this is that it wasn't

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Speaker 2: so long ago that age and work was an issue,

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Speaker 2: but for negative reasons, older workers will let go. They

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Speaker 2: had trouble getting new jobs. Roles for women of a

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Speaker 2: certain age in Hollywood became a thing. It all seems

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Speaker 2: to have been reversed, and dare I suggest it it's

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Speaker 2: been helped by the reputation, whether real or imagined that

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Speaker 2: the so called new generation aren't really that interested in working.

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Speaker 2: COVID ruined a lot of us work life balance became

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Speaker 2: a thing, work from home became a thing. Quiet quitting

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Speaker 2: became a thing. As more and more younger people moan

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Speaker 2: and complained and slacked off, the diligence, consistency, and institutional

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Speaker 2: knowledge of the older worker increased in value. The Winston

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Speaker 2: Peter's knowledge and experience in the Parliament is to be

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Speaker 2: seen any question time you want to look. He runs

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Speaker 2: rings around most of them, and he has purpose and

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Speaker 2: as the Asian cultures in particular will tell you ages

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Speaker 2: but a number and purpose is everything.

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Speaker 1: Who news of the world in ninety seven.

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Speaker 2: It come as a surprise, but I told you a

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Speaker 2: bunch of Europeans we're having a big meeting about the war. Yes,

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Speaker 2: it's coalition to the Will and get together Thursday with

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Speaker 2: some good anti Russia rhetoric.

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Speaker 3: Now President Trump has rightly called them out for drugging

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Speaker 3: their feet, and we agreed here in Paris today that

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Speaker 3: it's clear the Russians are filibustering. They are playing games,

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Speaker 3: and they're playing for time and more of the same.

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Speaker 2: Except in French it's it's necessity.

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Speaker 4: It's a necessity to avoid what is the clear project

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Speaker 4: of Russia in the last days and weeks, to pretend

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Speaker 4: to open Negotia, to discourage the adversary, and the same

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Speaker 4: time to step up attacks.

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Speaker 2: At the start of the show, the beleague in Zelensky

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Speaker 5: All based on this platform or the coalition of the willing,

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Speaker 5: as they say, we are building our future guarantees, security

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Speaker 5: guarantees for Ukraine, for the Ukraine peace.

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Speaker 2: Also in Europe, the realization that car tariffs are here,

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Speaker 2: and what to do retaliate or suck them up.

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Speaker 4: Not at the moment of the position where we want

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Speaker 4: to do anything to escalate these traders.

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Speaker 3: Tradeables are no good for anyone.

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Speaker 2: It sounds so much more dramatic when you said in

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Speaker 2: the music, don't you back in America where Trump was

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Speaker 2: signing it another executive order yesterday? Waxing the lyrical the

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Speaker 2: power and value of terriffs. The Pisky reporters keep asking

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Speaker 2: about signal and higgsy.

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Speaker 6: Hegarth is doing a great job.

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Speaker 7: He had nothing to do with this.

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Speaker 4: Ex How do you bring Hegcath into it?

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Speaker 2: He had nothing to look.

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Speaker 1: Look, it's all on which.

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Speaker 2: Hunt it couldn't be true. The Just Off Oil Brigade

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Speaker 2: have announced overnight they are ending direct Actor no more

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Speaker 2: so paintings blue on motorways.

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Speaker 9: A government that protects the people and serves the people

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Speaker 9: that have voted for them.

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Speaker 10: It isn't possible to do that without disruption.

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Speaker 9: So it's the reality that we have disrupted people, that

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Speaker 9: we have changed the conversation.

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Speaker 11: Have you.

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Speaker 2: Finally we've got declassified documents that show the Arc of Covenant,

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Speaker 2: the container for the tablet that Moses put in the

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Speaker 2: Tenth Commandments and given to him by go Man. You

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Speaker 2: know the story. Anyway, One CIA agent Suzu was in

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Speaker 2: the Middle East and saw the Arc hidden underground in

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Speaker 2: on what he calls Project Sunstreak at the time. What

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Speaker 2: was Project Sunstreak, Well, that was an experimental program where

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Speaker 2: they tried using people who claim to have psychic abilities

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Speaker 2: to convert to on these COVID missions. The reason he

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Speaker 2: didn't grab the arc was because it had powers and

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Speaker 2: breaking it open would kill them. He sounds like a

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Speaker 2: guy hangs out on signal. There's news of the world

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Speaker 2: in ninety China still not good, I'm afraid to tell you.

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Speaker 2: Thus your profits have dropped zero point three percent for

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Speaker 2: the first two months of the year. They've now declined

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Speaker 2: for three consecutive years. So that's China for your twelve

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Speaker 2: I'd be job focus this morning. RFK is planning to

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Speaker 2: cut ten thousand Health Department jobs. Meantime, British Steel as

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Speaker 2: Day, am My Wealth. Andrew Kellah, Good morning morning, Mike.

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Speaker 2: And jobs are going to be in focus I think

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Speaker 13: A mad, crazy world, isn't it. So yeah, we had

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Speaker 13: The US trade policy kind of crept out of the

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Speaker 13: into focus again. It's the introduction of reciprocal tariffs and

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Speaker 13: other messages measures, and President Trump has described it as

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Speaker 13: Liberation Day. It feels a little more fluid than that,

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Speaker 13: and there are other things you.

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Speaker 13: But it's still a few days out, and of course,

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Speaker 13: in the Trump Will, changes befoeen now and then are

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Speaker 13: always possible. We've seen some suggestion that the Big Bang

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Speaker 13: These are the fifteen nations with the biggest trade imbalances

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Speaker 13: South Korea and others are all in there. They could

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Speaker 13: talk of moderating the level of reciprocal tariffs. But as

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Speaker 13: we have been inundated with news about the last twenty

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Speaker 13: announce he will impose twenty five percent tariffs on foreign

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Speaker 13: so they get a day respite from the April the second.

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Speaker 13: But importantly, Mike is going to cover finished automobiles and automotive.

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Speaker 2: Parts, except parts.

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Speaker 13: That are compliant with the US, Mexico and Canada trade agreement.

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Speaker 13: Now the parts issues is important because people like GM,

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Speaker 2: Now it will be added.

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Speaker 13: So there's a tarif on tariff there because there's no

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Speaker 13: exception for automotive products from Mexico and Canada. Nearly half

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Speaker 13: so obviously hit the share prices. Last time I looked

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Speaker 13: this morning, GM was down seven percent, FOURD is down

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Speaker 13: three percent. A relative winner is Mike. Guess who who

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Speaker 13: would be a relative visit out of this Tesla exactly

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Speaker 13: up five percent. We won't talk about that, will trade

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Speaker 13: achieving the objectives of the Trump administration. One of the

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Speaker 2: You know, it means only spoken about in very wide terms.

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Speaker 13: Shall we talk about how the door can swing both ways?

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Speaker 13: Because I was going to talk about in Vidia, because

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Speaker 13: chip called the AH twenty. China's top Economic planner, which

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Speaker 2: So what we're seeing is this.

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Speaker 13: We can talk about it specifically about auto's, but actually

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Speaker 13: this is going to be destabilizing across a whole range

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Speaker 13: It's going to be interesting, and there's going to be

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Speaker 2: We The GDP read By the way, do we get that?

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Speaker 2: Was that two point four? Was I reading?

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Speaker 13: they've updated their estimate previously estimated at two point three.

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Speaker 13: This is for Q four of last year. It's now

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Speaker 13: but the estimate has been revised up just to sort

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Speaker 13: of give you some context.

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Speaker 2: Q three was three point one.

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Speaker 13: Expectations for GDP are now that it will slow into

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Speaker 13: being below two, somewhere between one and two. But we

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Speaker 2: It'd be I suppose it's moderately smart. Elbow is going

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Speaker 9: Do you care?

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Speaker 2: There is, of course a Signal group chat lawsuit now

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Speaker 1: the range Rover Villa designed to intrigue and use togs.

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Speaker 2: Dad be Mike. Have you seen Ella Langley? She looks

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Speaker 2: look anything like Kate, Mike, I think Liam going to

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Speaker 2: we'll have some more of that air to winch had

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Speaker 2: Clinical Quality and Safety Reviewed Longitudinal Data Report. Now this

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Speaker 2: the past decade. The Royal New Zealand College of GP's

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Speaker 2: medical director, Luke Bradford's will this look very good morning

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Speaker 2: to you, Mike. From my first glance, we seem to

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Speaker 10: I think there are some positive things in here. Once

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Speaker 2: How much are we doing not to help ourselves? I

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Speaker 10: Half the population thing is obviously government controlled. The chronic

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Speaker 2: Do you know that? How do you know that? Why

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's my assistment. I forget this report for a moment.

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Speaker 2: That's my assessment the public Health service. If you need

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Speaker 2: That's where it fails, is that fear or not.

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Speaker 2: And let's before you get to the regional aspect of it,

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Speaker 10: isn't it? And it is. We can do more and more,

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Speaker 2: Do you think within our means we are doing okay?

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Speaker 2: And does this report confirm that?

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Speaker 10: I still think there's problems with access, and I think

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Speaker 10: Then that is a problem. We can improve those areas

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Speaker 2: He was unable to cope with the pressure, which is

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Speaker 2: interesting because they were rock solid cast iron. Believing that

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Speaker 2: he could cope with the pressure. It's a difficult car

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Speaker 2: to drive. The racing bull is easier to handle on

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Speaker 2: very fast on the qualifying lappard and the race significantly

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Speaker 2: behind the rate of the Red Bull racing car. But

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Speaker 2: he lost confidence and pulling him in the car was

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Speaker 2: a mistake. His old brutal, old helmet isn't he'd be

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Speaker 2: fun at He'd be fun at Christmas eighteen to seven.

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Speaker 1: The Mike Hosking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio, powered

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Speaker 2: EP and Morni Myke Bold predictions to Notea Bins during

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Speaker 2: the Japanese Weekend. Well, I hope you're wrong. We don't

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Speaker 2: wish I'll will on anybody, do we, MONTI Michael, like

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Speaker 2: I stand by Limb. I don't min if he drives taxis,

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Speaker 2: I'll support him. Well, I mean, Mike, that's not the point,

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Speaker 2: of course, we support him. He's a good bloke and

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Speaker 2: we wish him well and all of that sort of stuff.

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Speaker 2: But it's whether or not you end up on the podium,

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Speaker 2: become a champion, and truly live out your dreams. Mike

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Speaker 2: really might tend to agree from a pure rookie point

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Speaker 2: of view, racing bulls is probably better after a couple

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Speaker 2: of years and then upper tier. Well, I hope that works.

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Speaker 2: The path back doesn't add Red Bull anyway, doesn't seem

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Speaker 2: to exist. He may well end up somewhere else. I

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Speaker 2: think Red Bulls day is over, Mike. It's quite clear

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Speaker 2: to me that their secret source was Adedy. Knew couldn't

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Speaker 2: agree more. And I think they've lost some key people.

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Speaker 2: They are not competitive this year. They're in blind panic.

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Speaker 2: Not even Max can drive the car. He hasn't won

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Speaker 2: anything yet, so I think there's a lot of panic

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Speaker 2: driving these decisions at the moment.

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Speaker 14: Fourteen to seven International correspondence with ends and eye insurance,

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Speaker 14: Peace of mind for New Zealand business, Good.

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Speaker 2: Arnald and the U United States. Morning to you. Shall

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Speaker 2: we talk about signal gait.

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Speaker 16: Better if we were doing so? But yeah, day four

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Speaker 16: of this and what a cockup. They are still circling

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Speaker 16: the wagons hereafter this scandal over the commercial group text,

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Speaker 16: where of course Trump's national security heavyweight shared details of

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Speaker 16: a military strike in Yemen that was coming up, where

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Speaker 16: a JUNO had been added.

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Speaker 2: To those being brief.

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Speaker 16: Jeffrey Goldberg hearing all this on his phone as he

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Speaker 16: was sitting in his car outside the Safeway supermarket. The

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Speaker 16: White House has said these details of the attack were

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Speaker 16: not war plans and were not classified. Well, now the

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Speaker 16: Atlantic magazine, Jeffrey Goldberg has released all this stuff, and

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Speaker 16: they include things like quote twel fifteen Eastern time F

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Speaker 16: eighteen's launch first strike package thirteen forty five trigger based

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Speaker 16: F eighteen first stripe windows starts. Terrorist is at his

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Speaker 16: known location, so should be on time, and on and

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Speaker 16: on it goes. It was Defense Secretary Pete Heigs's, fresh

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Speaker 16: from his role as weekend Fox News co host, who

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Speaker 16: revealed all of this, and who says, now.

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Speaker 13: There's no units, no locations, no routes, no flight paths.

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Speaker 16: However, those faighteens targeting Yemen could only have been launched

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Speaker 16: from one place. The USS treatment in the Red Sea.

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Speaker 16: Enemies could sort that out pretty easily. Trump's Press Secretary

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Speaker 16: Kevin Levitt was asked how in heck this would not

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Speaker 16: be regarded as classified why.

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Speaker 12: Are launch times on a mission stray classified?

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Speaker 1: Again?

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Speaker 6: I would defer you to the Secretary of Defense's statement

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Speaker 6: he put out this morning.

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Speaker 12: Do you trust the Secretary of Defense who was nominated

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Speaker 12: for this role, or do you trust Jeffrey Goldberg?

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Speaker 2: Good question.

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Speaker 16: Trump's Attorney General Pam Bondi now is saying today there

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Speaker 16: is no need for any investigation. Former Defense secretary, from

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Speaker 16: a CIA boss, from a White House Chief of Staff,

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Speaker 16: Leon Pinedo says this was obviously classified information.

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Speaker 6: There's no question that this was an attack plan. There

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Speaker 6: was talk of weapons, the talk of targets, timing deployment.

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Speaker 6: This is an attack plan and it should not have

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Speaker 6: been put on that kind of communication. Frankly, this is

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Speaker 6: the kind of thing that ought to be handled in

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Speaker 6: a national security console situation room.

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Speaker 16: Uh, he says, those involves should be fired. Is this

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Speaker 16: un secured signal texting system being used for other secret stuff?

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Speaker 16: That's a question many might be asking today. The German

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Speaker 16: outlet Despiegel reports now that they had no trouble getting

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Speaker 16: emails and passwords for accounts belonging to higgsys. Inter National

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Speaker 16: Security advisor Mike Walt, who is the one who actually

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Speaker 16: added a generalist Goldberg to the text stream. Walts' account

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Speaker 16: of how the signal fiasco occurred is mind boggling. Here's

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Speaker 16: what he told Fox News, and then a comment from

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Speaker 16: Bailey Show comedian Ronnie Chang Whilt suggesting that while he

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Speaker 16: added the General's number to the chat, he might have

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Speaker 16: been the victim of I don't know, some sort of conspiracy.

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Speaker 3: I'm sure everybody out there has had a contact where

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Speaker 3: you it was said one person and then a different

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Speaker 3: phone number.

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Speaker 16: The comedian's response, No, no one's, No one's ever had

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Speaker 16: No one's ever had that.

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Speaker 4: All right, People don't have a contact with a phone

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Speaker 4: number for like a different person unless they're having an

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Speaker 4: affair or.

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Speaker 16: Must the deliberate leaking of other material? Is that why

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Speaker 16: he had the phone number? And he's just not saying

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Speaker 16: Donald Trump because doesn't like leaks. So Trump has been

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Speaker 16: very vague about all of this.

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Speaker 5: Still nothing classified with shared.

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Speaker 17: Well, that's what I've heard.

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Speaker 18: I don't know.

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Speaker 11: I'm not sure.

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Speaker 4: You have to ask the various people involved.

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Speaker 1: I really don't know.

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Speaker 16: He really doesn't know.

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Speaker 2: He's only the president exactly good, only, ma'am, have a

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Speaker 2: good weekend. Part of the reason and Trump is rapable about.

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Speaker 2: This is why Waltz had the journalist's number on his phone,

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Speaker 2: because the journalist was the bloke who did the story

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Speaker 2: that had Trump calling soldiers losers and circus and so

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Speaker 2: they all hate each other. By the way, yes, Lisball

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Speaker 2: Whistley's ball, I've ever seen as incredible as lisiball you

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Speaker 2: gav polls out seventy four percent of Americans somewhat serious

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Speaker 2: and fifty three percent of Americans think it's very serious,

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Speaker 2: no kidding.

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Speaker 1: Ten to seven, the mic asking Breakfast with Bailey's real

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Speaker 1: estate news togs dead.

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Speaker 2: Be because it turns out Liam was in a second

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Speaker 2: grade car anyway, Red Bullen was working with second grade

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Speaker 2: management as well. His path now should be to do

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Speaker 2: well with Racing Bulls and then move to another team.

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Speaker 2: Poor Yuki, who's now been the poison Chelice. That is true,

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Speaker 2: because of course you got to remember Yuki's with Hondra,

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Speaker 2: and Hondra are leaving Red bull at the end of

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Speaker 2: the season, the changing Injura manufacturers, So Yuki's dispensable. Mike.

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Speaker 2: Liam will score points and maybe a podium or two

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Speaker 2: with v carp No, he won't. He might score points.

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Speaker 2: I would I mean, god, I hope you're right. Imagine

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Speaker 2: if he was on a podium with VK, it wouldn't

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Speaker 2: need to be a rainy day. Something weird would need

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Speaker 2: to happen. That car is not fast enough over fifty

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Speaker 2: four or seventy two laps to get anywhere close to one,

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Speaker 2: two or three. I think he will leave RB in

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty six, got a good relationship with Adrian Newe. Well,

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Speaker 2: the problem with NUI is Aston Martin. And the problem

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Speaker 2: with Aston Martin is it's own by Stroll, and Stroll

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Speaker 2: likes his son, Little Lancey, and that's why lances in

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Speaker 2: the car. So as long as Lawrence is there, lances

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Speaker 2: in the car. I suppose you wait for Alonzo to

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Speaker 2: retire and maybe there's an opportunity there. I'm glad you're

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Speaker 2: immersed in the story because, as if one freak, it's

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Speaker 2: been fascinating this week or the last couple of weeks

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Speaker 2: to just watch the interest of broader based non f

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Speaker 2: one followers to get involved in the story.

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Speaker 7: So you're glad about that. You don't find it annoying

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Speaker 7: that a bunch of know nothing bozos feel like they've got.

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Speaker 2: To stick there or no, no, no, you dip your

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Speaker 2: toe in and before you know it, you're a fan. Glynn.

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Speaker 2: That's how it works. Five minutes away from seven.

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Speaker 1: Well, the ins and the ouse. It's the biz with business, Faber,

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Speaker 1: take your business productivity to the next level.

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Speaker 2: Well, it makes a tariff business now. Trump said he

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Speaker 2: spoke to Stalantis, Ford and GM, and they're on board

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Speaker 2: and love the idea of making more cars in America,

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Speaker 2: which of course is not true. They had lobbied for

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Speaker 2: the twenty five percent tariff to be delayed because, as

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Speaker 2: I said over and over again, and anyone knows anything

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Speaker 2: about cars knows full well there's no such thing as

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Speaker 2: an American made car. There are factories in America, and

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Speaker 2: they do make some cars, but all the parts of

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Speaker 2: some of the parts are brought in from other countries.

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Speaker 2: They assemble the cars in America. Even American car companies

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Speaker 2: bring in parts from other parts of the world. And

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Speaker 2: everybody knows that. So the shares are not going well

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Speaker 2: this morning, although a lot of it's been baked in

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Speaker 2: because this is not today's news. Has been coming for ages.

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Speaker 2: GM's down seven percent, Forward is down a couple, Stilanta's

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Speaker 2: down one. That's all based on the idea of how

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Speaker 2: much they have to bring in from other countries and

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Speaker 2: what part of the car is coming in from Canada

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Speaker 2: or Mexico or Germany or France or wherever. Anyway, Tesler's

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Speaker 2: stock is up five mind you, it needs to be,

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Speaker 2: because it's taken a pound in GM has the smaller

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Speaker 2: share of cars in the States at fifty two percent.

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Speaker 2: Fifty seven percent of Stalanta's vehicles a US made seventy

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Speaker 2: eight percent of Ford vehicles a US may but once

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Speaker 2: again I read when you say seventy eight percent of

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Speaker 2: Ford vehicles are US made, Yes, but there are parts

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Speaker 2: within those US made cars that are made elsewhere. Meantime,

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Speaker 2: Ferrari and this is a fantastic story in itself, is

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Speaker 2: all the f set is. Well, when the tariffs come on,

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Speaker 2: what we'll do is put the price of the car

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Speaker 2: up and we're going to put the price of the

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Speaker 2: car up ten percent, which on some models are like that,

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Speaker 2: put us which is their SUV. That's another fifty grand,

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Speaker 2: just like that. Imagine having a brand so powerful that

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Speaker 2: you just go, woah, We'll just add fifty grand to them.

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Speaker 2: Those people, the rich people, will do it. Imagine having

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Speaker 2: a Ferrari SUV's if you're not seeing the put of Sungway,

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Speaker 2: it's a It's a beautiful car. It's a V twelve

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Speaker 2: with the suicide doors at the back. Very nice looking car.

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Speaker 2: It's a million dollars if you put a few bits

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Speaker 2: on it. The other one is the twelve cylindre, which

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Speaker 2: is the what do a cente? It'll be the douer

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Speaker 2: centes Celeandre, the twelve cylinder Cilindro. They're whacking that up

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Speaker 2: by ten percent as well. That's a million dollar carry.

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Speaker 2: I was watching Harry from Harry's garage the other day

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Speaker 2: race it round Portugal. I can't work out whether it's

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Speaker 2: a beautiful car or the biggest design mistake of the

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Speaker 2: modern era. I think I'm favoring beautiful. While we're on

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Speaker 2: the broad subject of cars, which is more interesting than

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Speaker 2: Eden Park, which seemed to be a story of some

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Speaker 2: fascination to the media today about a vote that meant

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Speaker 2: absolutely nothing. So we'll need to talk more about that shortly.

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Speaker 1: The only report you need to start your day the

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Speaker 1: my casting Breakfast with Bailey's real Estate altogether better across residential,

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Speaker 2: almost bewilderment. We seem interested in what the Auckland City

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Speaker 2: Park as opposed to a new facility on the waterfront.

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Speaker 2: The next step in what is an astonishingly long go

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Speaker 2: nowhere kind of process is what happens next? Does the

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Speaker 2: government get involved? Eden Park's the Nix sortners with us.

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Speaker 8: Nick morning, Good morning Mike, and thanks of your time.

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Speaker 2: No, not at all. We had Martin Snedden on the

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Speaker 2: program yesterday. We were talking about the redevelopment of eden

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Speaker 2: Park back in twenty eleven. So twenty fifteen, nothing really

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Speaker 2: has happened. Do you think you'll be alive when someone

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Speaker 2: makes a decision.

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Speaker 8: Well, I'd like to think so, And yesterday we welcome

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Speaker 8: the decision and acknowledge the staff that participating in a

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Speaker 8: process for over two years it was originally intended to

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Speaker 8: take three month, took two years. Our strategy and purposes

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Speaker 8: be to demonstrate that our hybrid multi purpose stadium and

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Speaker 8: adaptive for a use of Eden Park is the only

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Speaker 8: solution for Auckland and New Zealand's National Stadium.

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Speaker 2: If they do or teck something off, what happens to

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Speaker 2: the facility that you can't do now.

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Speaker 8: So for us, the critical element is to demonstrate that

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Speaker 8: increase utilization is part and parcel of stadium economics and

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Speaker 8: with the opening of the CURL we'll see a pipeline

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Speaker 8: of potential and for us it's to unlock a lot

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Speaker 8: of the potential that's there. So we're currently under a

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Speaker 8: number of constraints. We've got ninety seven percent support from

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Speaker 8: the community. So part of this process has been able

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Speaker 8: to demonstrate that we have got the support of the

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Speaker 8: community and local businesses. We understand the economic benefits of

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Speaker 8: major events and we've got a proven track record the

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Speaker 8: last five years. We've seen seventy percent of our revenue

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Speaker 8: and activity not being part of our business model only

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Speaker 8: five years ago, and we know we need to evolve

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Speaker 8: and this is the next step.

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Speaker 2: Do you have any sense at all of whether the

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Speaker 2: central government is remotely interested.

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Speaker 8: Well, I'm very confident in the conversations that we can

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Speaker 8: have and we're not looking for new money. What we're

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Speaker 8: looking for is for government to be more efficient with

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Speaker 8: existing money. And with the pipeline of content including the

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Speaker 8: Cricket World Cup in twenty twenty eight, this is a

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Speaker 8: once in a lifetime opportunity to actually draw a line

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Speaker 8: in the sand and make a decision adaptive or a

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Speaker 8: use of Eden Park with a staged approach. The first

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Speaker 8: stage been one hundred and ten million. I understand that

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Speaker 8: everyone's doing it tough, but I'm confident there is opportunities

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Speaker 8: for savings and reinvestment in our national stadium.

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Speaker 2: Good stuff, Nick, Nice to talk to your next st

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Speaker 2: Eden Park CEO. Nine minutes past seven, tasking I'm still

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Speaker 2: here in twenty five years, we'll do the interview again

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Speaker 2: where nothing's changed. Some very good news from the government

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Speaker 2: on the crackdown on consultancy spending though so they're looking

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Speaker 2: to save eight hundred million dollars over a couple of years,

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Speaker 2: being they've done at four hundred million dollars a year.

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Speaker 2: Numbers out yesterday they've been successful. Finance Minister Nikola Willis,

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Speaker 2: good morning, Good morning man. I watched you with Collins

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Speaker 2: in the house yesterday. She's seem proud as punch with

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Speaker 2: these numbers, as indeed she should be, shouldn't she.

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Speaker 9: Indeed we've over delivered, and this is an area where

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Speaker 9: there's no doubt money was being wasted, taxpayers money, and

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Speaker 9: that money is now going to much better purposes, including

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Speaker 9: into the back pockets of kiwi's dealing with a pretty

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Speaker 9: high cost of living.

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Speaker 2: How are you doing? How are you doing that? So

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Speaker 2: is this four hundred million eight hundred eventually is that

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Speaker 2: going to be spent or is it going to be

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Speaker 2: to retire debt or what?

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Speaker 9: Well, this was part of our plan at the last

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Speaker 9: budget to help fund tax relief without having to borrow

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Speaker 9: for that tax relief. So by delivering these savings, we've

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Speaker 9: been able to, for example, deliver the Family Boost policy,

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Speaker 9: which is giving family support with their early childhood education costs.

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Speaker 9: So by reducing waste we'll spending in one pace of

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Speaker 9: place of the government, we've been able to make sure

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Speaker 9: that kiwis can hang on to a bit more of

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Speaker 9: what they earn.

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Speaker 2: Good result, What literally was the money spent on? Because

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Speaker 2: it's easy to lose jobs and it's easy to cut spending.

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Speaker 2: But the counter argument on the unions and such is

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Speaker 2: that stuff isn't being done anymore. What was eight hundred

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Speaker 2: million dollars being spent on.

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Speaker 9: Well, in my opinion, a lot of it was being

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Speaker 9: spent on reports by very expensive firms that then sat

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Speaker 9: on shelves and gathered a little bit of dust. I

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Speaker 9: think we had developed a culture in the public service

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Speaker 9: where if you wanted to get someone to say that

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Speaker 9: your idea was a good idea, send it to a consultant,

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Speaker 9: put the stamp on. If you wanted to get someone

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Speaker 9: to give you some graphs and some numbers, send it

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Speaker 9: to a consultant, get them to do a PowerPoint set

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Speaker 9: of slides for the minister. And it had become so

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Speaker 9: endemic that the money being spent had just sawed up

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Speaker 9: quite dramatically to more than a billion dollars. And the

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Speaker 9: minute that we came in and said, ah, not happening anymore,

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Speaker 9: those numbers drove down quickly. Are still catch public servants

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Speaker 9: any every now and then sort of out of the

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Speaker 9: old habit saying oh, we'll get a consultant's report. But

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Speaker 9: ultimately public servants are capable. They can the stuff themselves,

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Speaker 9: and that costs the taxpayer a lot less.

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Speaker 2: Judith Colin says, there's more weathers came from. How much

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Speaker 2: more do you reckon?

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Speaker 8: Well?

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Speaker 9: I think that the public service itself is going to

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Speaker 9: get a lot better at using digital tools and new

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Speaker 9: technology to deliver a lot of the work it does.

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Speaker 9: And then over time that's going to free out more

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Speaker 9: money in their budgets for the frontline services that we're

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Speaker 9: wanting them to focus on. But with the consultants, we

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Speaker 9: haven't set a target beyond where we are now. That's

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Speaker 9: something I'm thinking about because I've found the targets that

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Speaker 9: we put in place in our first year were really

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Speaker 9: useful in driving these numbers down. So I'm sure that

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Speaker 9: that's something that Judith will look at.

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Speaker 2: Now, is it Sunday you're making the supermarket's announcement or

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Speaker 2: Saturday Sunday? Okay, Sunday because I've got the Warriors Sunday.

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Speaker 2: Is this worth it or not?

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Speaker 9: Well, what I'm announcing, Mike, is the next steps that

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Speaker 9: the government is taking to push grocery competition. Long we

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Speaker 9: want Kiwis to get fear of prices at the checkout.

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Speaker 9: We're convinced by the case that says it's not a

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Speaker 9: very competitive market here. In fact, it's one of the

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Speaker 9: least competitive in the world. And when you don't have

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Speaker 9: good competition, consumers don't get the best steel, So you're

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Speaker 9: a call. A month ago, I said, look, I want

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Speaker 9: someone else to come to this market. Let's look at

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Speaker 9: what the regulatory burdens are. I've now gone back to

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Speaker 9: Cabnet and on Sunday, I'm going to announce where we've

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Speaker 9: got to.

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Speaker 2: He so those are specifics. You're not toying with me here,

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Speaker 2: these are specifics. Something tangible will happen out of your

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Speaker 2: announcement Sunday.

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Speaker 9: Well, I'll announce where we've got to So what I've

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Speaker 9: gained from going out to the market and saying what

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Speaker 9: are you interested in? And then I'm going to announce

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Speaker 9: where we're going next. There's two things I need to

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Speaker 9: achieve here, Mike. One is sure patient, sorry not patients

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Speaker 9: in this case, there's offers have been waiting for a

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Speaker 9: long time for progress on this one. On the other hand,

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Speaker 9: when you're dealing with a two and a half billion

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Speaker 9: dollar market, if you don't want to move so fast

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Speaker 9: that you're not moving with care and consideration. So I'm

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Speaker 9: going to announce what the next steps are, what progress

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Speaker 9: we've made, and what progress New Zealanders can expect over

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Speaker 9: the next six months.

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Speaker 2: I hope it's good. Appreciate it. Nikola Willis, Finance Minister, fourteen

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Speaker 2: past sevens. I totally agree about dipping your towe into

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Speaker 2: F one. I never followed it till now now I

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Speaker 2: am obsessed. Mike Liam being demoted won't ruin his career.

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Speaker 2: Gasly went on to his first podium after returning to Torrerosso,

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Speaker 2: and then one a year later at Monza. Elbons rebuilt

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Speaker 2: himself at William's not Unfair Points fourteen past.

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Speaker 2: this morning seventeen pasted. Over the past quarter century, Acumen

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Speaker 2: have measured our trust in business, NGOs, the government, the media.

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Speaker 2: First time New Zealand's fallen into the distrust category. Business

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Speaker 2: most trusted of all the institutions, but it has had

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Speaker 2: the most significant decline this past year our sense of grievance.

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Speaker 2: There's also six percent higher than the global average. What's

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Speaker 2: all this mean, Acumen? CEO Adele Keeley's with us Adele Morning.

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Speaker 15: Good Morning Mike.

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Speaker 2: Sixty seven percent of us have expressed a moderate or

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Speaker 2: high sense of grievances? Is that an extraordinary number. It

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Speaker 2: strikes me that two thirds of New Zealand is carry

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Speaker 2: a grievance is not healthy?

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Speaker 15: Yeah, I think it is. I think when we think

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Speaker 15: about grievance, it's the sense of things are unfair and

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Speaker 15: the system is stacked against us. And when we think

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Speaker 15: about people, that's people's employees, customers, people in the community.

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Speaker 15: And I think what's really driving this is a lack

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Speaker 15: of optimism. So the research also shows that only nineteen

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Speaker 15: percent of New Zealanders thinks the next generation is going

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Speaker 15: to be better off in five years time. There's also

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Speaker 15: people are navigating misin disinformation post pandemic, and there's also

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Speaker 15: a sense that there's a high degree of cynicism in

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Speaker 15: New Zealand around business and government leaders, whether they are

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Speaker 15: intentionally misleading us or not.

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Speaker 2: Does it worry you because it might be other work

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Speaker 2: I read this week, or it could have been yours.

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Speaker 2: But this business where we believe that the politicians and

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Speaker 2: the media actively lie to us. Now, it's one thing

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Speaker 2: to go yeah, and I don't really trust somebody, but

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Speaker 2: to accuse somebody of actively lying to you is next level,

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Speaker 2: isn't it.

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Speaker 15: I agree with you, Mike. The research says mislead or exaggerate.

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Speaker 15: So since we've been doing this research, we know that

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Speaker 15: New Zealanders do have a healthy sense cynicism. But I

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Speaker 15: do think it's a real concern that people aren't trusting

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Speaker 15: our leaders. What we do see there though, where there's

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Speaker 15: a proximity and a relationship, So you may not trust

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Speaker 15: CEOs in general, but you trust my CEO or my employer.

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Speaker 15: That's where the opportunity lies.

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Speaker 2: I think are we an outlier in terms of our

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Speaker 2: grievance and hate and distrust and all of that.

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Speaker 15: No, we're not. Unfortunately, it's a worldwide trend and in

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Speaker 15: fact the highest levels that those that feel the highest

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Speaker 15: level of discrimination are actually white Americans. But I think

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Speaker 15: that a lot of people will be surprised to see

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Speaker 15: that level of grievance am on New Zealand. We like

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Speaker 15: to think that we're kind of a more fair and

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Speaker 15: inclusive society. So it feels like we're a fork in

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Speaker 15: the road here. We can see the trajectory and other

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Speaker 15: nations with the direction of travel where we could be going.

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Speaker 15: And I think for a lot of us that's that's

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Speaker 15: not where we want to head.

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Speaker 2: Adele, appreciate your insight very much. Adele Keeley, who's the

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Speaker 2: acumen CEO of white Americans. That's how you win an election,

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Speaker 2: of course, that's how it works. COVID changed everything. In

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Speaker 2: my humble opinion, I thought there was a there was

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Speaker 2: a bubbling, underlying sort of vibe, and then COVID changed

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Speaker 2: everything and we've never been the same since. Mike Ir

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Speaker 2: was fortunate enough to interview Liam several times as a

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Speaker 2: reporter of the Sky TV. He is an amazing young talent.

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Speaker 2: I never wanted him to go to Red Bulls and

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Speaker 2: they never treat the number two drive as well. Racing

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Speaker 2: balls will help his career. He is a world champion

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Speaker 2: in the making. I believe he will get there. He

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Speaker 2: Are the Warriors seven? Not just two winds in a row,

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Speaker 2: but two very good winds in a row and a

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Speaker 2: third on Sunday with the Tigers. Liam Lawson too. Yes

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Speaker 2: it's sport and yes it's tough, but this is at

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Speaker 2: the hard end of hard calls, that line between dream

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Speaker 2: lived and dream shatterday Fungaray Council one, wat Wat God

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Speaker 2: arguing about it, went to court with no money, no

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Speaker 2: budget lost, got pasted by the judge. Awesome work, guys.

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Speaker 2: Lindsey McKenzie six, Wellington's Crown Observer who thinks the local

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Speaker 2: body law should be changed till we get better qualified

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Speaker 2: people to represent us. Give that man a medal. Talmoth

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Speaker 2: Paul too. Yes, the Greens are nuts, but Labour want

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Speaker 2: to run the country with them. Think about it. Housing

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Speaker 2: affordability eight twenty percent more affordable than this time last year.

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Speaker 2: Seize the day three betties for everyone, Cherry seven A

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Speaker 2: record season? Is there anyone who doesn't grow stuff that

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Speaker 2: hasn't had a record season? The Australian budget four blatant

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Speaker 2: bribery with money they didn't have. Is it old fashioned

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Speaker 2: of me? Too long for proper leadership, economic discipline, core

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Speaker 2: values and straight up and down honesty? I mean really,

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Speaker 2: Winston Peter's.

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Speaker 8: Eight Mister Hoskins quote my words.

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Speaker 2: Uplifting view of the week on diet and work. Read

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Speaker 2: Audrey Young's piece if you haven't already and tell me

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Speaker 2: you're not impressed. And that's the week. Copies on the website.

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Speaker 2: And no one involved in the production of this piece

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Speaker 2: of work was affected by this week's electoral boundary changes

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Speaker 2: pad skiing Like. I think the one thing we forget

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Speaker 2: about the whole Liam laws and Son is that he's

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Speaker 2: still got a full time drive. You may feel like

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Speaker 2: a demo, but at the end of the day, he's

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Speaker 2: one of twenty people driving a Formula one car and

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Speaker 2: that's effing amazing. You obviously missed what I said before. Yes,

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Speaker 2: all of that's true, but you want to be the best.

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Speaker 2: You want to be at the top. You want to

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Speaker 2: chase your dream, so to be an F one driver.

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Speaker 2: So there are several steps along the way out there. One,

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Speaker 2: you want to get into F one. So that's been

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Speaker 2: the big amazing story for Liam. He's in the F one, fantastic,

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Speaker 2: got a full time drive, brilliant. Next step is you

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Speaker 2: want to be on a winning team. You want to

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Speaker 2: get a podium. After you get a podium, you want

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Speaker 2: to win a race. After you win a race, you

957
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Speaker 2: want to win a championship. That's what you're chasing. There's

958
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Speaker 2: no point in driving for Sourba for ten years collecting

959
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Speaker 2: a million and a half dollars. Yes, you've got a

960
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Speaker 2: place in Monaco, but coming fifteenth every weekend you turn

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Speaker 2: up knowing you will never win. That's got to be

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Speaker 2: debilitating for a person who's driven to success. Mike willis

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Speaker 2: better not be helping any foreign own supermarket with taxpayer

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Speaker 2: money to set up here because profits would just go off.

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Speaker 2: Sure ty Ty ho Son. What sh'll be announcing is

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Speaker 2: some the facilities. I fear the announcement's going to be disappointing.

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Speaker 2: She's not announcing a third player, but she will be

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Speaker 2: announcing what the government can tangibly do to help a

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Speaker 2: major player come in access to land rules, regulations. Some

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Speaker 2: of the hurdles you might have faced previously not necessarily

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Speaker 2: the case anymore. So there will be something tangible, but

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Speaker 2: it won't be the slam dunk that some people think

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Speaker 2: it might be. Mike, can you tell me if the

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Speaker 2: listener is a reliable source of a political info? Peace, Liz,

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Speaker 2: stop asking ridiculous questions news for you. Next.

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Speaker 1: New Zealand's voice of reason is Mike the mic asking

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Speaker 1: breakfast with Vita, Retirement communities, Life your Way news.

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Speaker 2: Togs Head be sorry, know nothing about it and have

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Speaker 2: been considering it it a source of reliable info. Liz

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Speaker 2: text back up to the question about the listener it's

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Speaker 2: interesting that don't never apologize, Liz. We're here to help.

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Speaker 2: But the Listener's been around how long? One hundred and

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Speaker 2: twenty seven years something like that. The Listener is a

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Speaker 2: very well known left leaning organ of Gordon Campbell. Who

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Speaker 2: else can I think of? Steve Brawny s used to

986
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Speaker 2: write for them. What's his name, Trotter. He's in there,

987
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Speaker 2: Chris Trotter. It's that sort of place. If you worked

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Speaker 2: for Radio New Zealand or the Ministry of Internal Affairs,

989
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Speaker 2: you'd have a subscription. By the way, Trump has pulled

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Speaker 2: Stephani's nomination to be the US ambassador to the UN

991
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Speaker 2: Razethan margin and the House didn't want to take the risks,

992
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Speaker 2: so he's asked her to stay in Congress twenty ten

993
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Speaker 2: minutes away from make Timmy Katie. After it being a Friday, Well,

994
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Speaker 2: what a miserable week for Lliam Lawson, A dream shattered

995
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Speaker 2: as the news officially was released, as you well know, overnight,

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Speaker 2: Lawson to racing Wilsonota to the top team. Of course,

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Speaker 2: Kristen Hornet called it a sporting decision and they had

998
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Speaker 2: a duty of care to protect and develop laws in

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Speaker 2: the BBC formula and correspondent Andrew bensonce back, Well, there's Andrew,

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Speaker 2: morning to you morning. This has been a you know,

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Speaker 2: as you would understand, a mess of story in this

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Speaker 2: part of the world. How it seems to me to

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Speaker 2: be global as well. Has it been a big deal

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Speaker 2: where you are?

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Speaker 19: Yeah, pretty massive everywhere. Actually, it's quite an extraordinary turn

1006
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Speaker 19: of events, doesn't it. Give a guy a chance three

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Speaker 19: months ago, give him two races, and then flick him

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Speaker 19: for the guy you thought wasn't good enough when you

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Speaker 19: gave him the drive in the first place. So I

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Speaker 19: think most of them one is like what.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, when you put it, When you put it like that,

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Speaker 2: they almost seem a nipped, are they.

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Speaker 19: Well it's not for me to say, is it. But

1014
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Speaker 19: certainly lots of people are asking serious questions about this.

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Speaker 19: It goes right back to well even perhaps before, but

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Speaker 19: certainly right back to last spring when serge of Perez's

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Speaker 19: performances were beginning to tail off again for the second

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Speaker 19: year running, and yet Red blul gave him a new

1019
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Speaker 19: two year contract at the end of twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 19: Then he had a really bad season. They paid him

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Speaker 19: off at the end of the year, put Lawson in

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Speaker 19: even though, you know, he's only done eleven Grand Prix

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Speaker 19: before he started this season, and Sonoda, who was his

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Speaker 19: teammates at Racing Bulls or RB as it was called

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Speaker 19: last year, had done four seasons. Now they were pretty

1026
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Speaker 19: evenly matched, but on most metrics Snoda probably just about

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Speaker 19: edged it against Lawson in their time together. But still

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Speaker 19: they picked Lawson because they thought he was the guy

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Speaker 19: with the best potential. They didn't trust Snoda in terms

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Speaker 19: of mentality resilience going up against Max de Stappen and

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Speaker 19: the senior team and two races in you know before

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Speaker 19: Lawson's even driven on a track that he knows. You know,

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Speaker 19: this weekend next weekend in Japan is the first track

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Speaker 19: that he's been to before. Out of these races at

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Speaker 19: the start of the year, they've got rid of him. Now,

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Speaker 19: Lawson obviously didn't have a very good start of the season,

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Speaker 19: there's no question about that, but you really have to

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Speaker 19: question if he was if he was the right guy

1039
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Speaker 19: in December should assume a bit more chats.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I know that helmet. Mike this morning said it

1041
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Speaker 2: was a mistake and he hasn't handled it mentally and

1042
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Speaker 2: that they couldn't have talked up as mental stability more

1043
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Speaker 2: at the time. This duty of care that Horner's running

1044
00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:04,960
Speaker 2: this morning is for a really cutthroat team. Do we

1045
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Speaker 2: believe that. I mean, on one hand, you talk us

1046
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Speaker 2: about peerios and you're right, they wanted to give them surety,

1047
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Speaker 2: to give them confidence that look good. And then the

1048
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Speaker 2: next thing, this second I can't work out what they're about.

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Speaker 19: Well, I think it smacks a little bit of trying

1050
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Speaker 19: to dress it up as best they can. You know,

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Speaker 19: this is not a duty of care, is it, by

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Speaker 19: any stretch of the imagination getting rid of someone after

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Speaker 19: two races. The duty of care is to give him

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Speaker 19: chance to try and perform a bit better. Put your

1055
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Speaker 19: arm around his shoulder, talk to him about what's going wrong.

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Speaker 19: I mean, from Lawson's point of view, Actually, I don't

1057
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Speaker 19: think this is all negative. You know, there are other

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Speaker 19: drivers who Red Bull have rejected and have rebuilt their careers.

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Speaker 8: Look at Alis Alban.

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Speaker 19: Who's now Williams and very well respected in one one

1061
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Speaker 19: Pierre Gasly who's gone to Alpine earning lots of money

1062
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Speaker 19: as their kind of lead driver at the moment. So

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Speaker 19: I think if Lawson deals with this with a positive mindset,

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Speaker 19: he can go back to racing balls, he can perform strongly.

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Speaker 19: I think he probably needs to get out of the

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Speaker 19: Red Bull driver fold as soon as he can. But

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Speaker 19: if he performs strongly at racing bulls, he's got every

1068
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Speaker 19: chance of doing that, and he could still have a

1069
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Speaker 19: long and successful Formula One career.

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Speaker 2: They're making a little bit of Tho's Mex for Stepens

1071
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Speaker 2: liked an Instagram post from Guido Vandergarde saying that he

1072
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Speaker 2: was bullied out. The fact that mex has liked the

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Speaker 2: post has been seen as mechs being unhappy again. How

1074
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Speaker 2: much weight do you place on mex is unhappy and

1075
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Speaker 2: eventually will end up somewhere else.

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Speaker 19: Well, it's very interesting that post because the Stapan is

1077
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Speaker 19: not the only Formula One driver who's liked it. So

1078
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Speaker 19: is Oscar Piastre, So is Niko Holdenberg, so has Pierre Gasley.

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Speaker 19: That's four out of twenty Formula one drivers, or four

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Speaker 19: out of the other nineteen, if you like, who have

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Speaker 19: kind of what appears to be expressed their displeasure with

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Speaker 19: the way Red Bull have behaved. I don't think we

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Speaker 19: should presume what the Stappan thinks until we've spoken to him.

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Speaker 19: In a week's time in Japan. But I have heard

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00:50:54,640 --> 00:50:56,600
Speaker 19: on a grape vine. I mean, he was making it

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00:50:56,600 --> 00:50:59,480
Speaker 19: pretty clear at the weekend in China that he he

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00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:02,400
Speaker 19: didn't think it was the driver's fault in the second

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00:51:02,440 --> 00:51:04,160
Speaker 19: Red Bull. He was you know, he thinks the car

1089
00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:06,520
Speaker 19: is what's that the problem is? You know, he thinks

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00:51:06,560 --> 00:51:08,560
Speaker 19: it's the fourth fastest car on the grid. So I

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00:51:08,560 --> 00:51:10,360
Speaker 19: think there are a lot of questions that need to

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Speaker 19: be addressed at the team, not just about their driver's choices.

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00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:16,200
Speaker 19: You know, they've lost arian Nui, the the you know,

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Speaker 19: the design guru who's gone to ask them Martin, they're

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00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:23,480
Speaker 19: not They've apparently lost competitiveness relatively over the over the winter.

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Speaker 19: So what's going on there? And if the cars are

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00:51:26,680 --> 00:51:29,400
Speaker 19: this difficult to drive? We know that the staffen's a genius.

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00:51:29,800 --> 00:51:31,640
Speaker 19: Is Sonoda going to do any better than laws? And

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Speaker 19: these are all interesting questions.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, I'm interested in Andrew and you're taking Liam

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00:51:36,520 --> 00:51:39,120
Speaker 2: from from the outside, and obviously we're obsised about him.

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00:51:39,160 --> 00:51:41,040
Speaker 2: He's a not he's a likable guy. Yes, he's skilled,

1103
00:51:41,080 --> 00:51:42,839
Speaker 2: because he wouldn't be an if one, But what's your

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00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:44,640
Speaker 2: view of him as a driver.

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Speaker 19: Well, until this, until this certain turn of events, he

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00:51:49,880 --> 00:51:52,399
Speaker 19: was he'd looked like a very decent Formula One driver.

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Speaker 19: You know, he acquitted himself well and those eleven Grand

1108
00:51:54,960 --> 00:51:57,400
Speaker 19: Prix spread over the two seats. The two previous seasons,

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00:51:57,840 --> 00:52:01,520
Speaker 19: he'd been aggressive and bust you know, racing wheel to

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Speaker 19: wield with the likes of Fernando Alonso last year and Perez,

1111
00:52:05,719 --> 00:52:08,080
Speaker 19: you know, not making any friends. But thental Moren drivers

1112
00:52:08,080 --> 00:52:11,319
Speaker 19: aren't out to make friends. He seems like a very

1113
00:52:11,320 --> 00:52:14,040
Speaker 19: personable guy when you meet him, but to be honest

1114
00:52:14,040 --> 00:52:17,000
Speaker 19: with you, the last two races in Australia and China,

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00:52:17,040 --> 00:52:19,160
Speaker 19: he's looked like a rabbit caught in the headlights. He's

1116
00:52:19,200 --> 00:52:22,680
Speaker 19: looked like someone who was really struggling, couldn't get his

1117
00:52:22,760 --> 00:52:25,239
Speaker 19: head around why it wasn't working with the car quite

1118
00:52:25,360 --> 00:52:28,160
Speaker 19: how the car was so difficult. It did look like

1119
00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:30,880
Speaker 19: he was struggling. I have to say, you know, you

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Speaker 19: would catch glimpses of him while he was waiting to

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00:52:33,040 --> 00:52:35,080
Speaker 19: be interviewed on camera, for example, and he just looked,

1122
00:52:35,280 --> 00:52:38,719
Speaker 19: you know, looked like it looked completely shell shocked. Things

1123
00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:42,680
Speaker 19: like that. But you know, I'm sure he'll be able

1124
00:52:42,719 --> 00:52:47,160
Speaker 19: to bounce back. From this. Certainly people hope so, but

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Speaker 19: he needs to think about it positively. It's very hard

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00:52:49,560 --> 00:52:51,360
Speaker 19: to think about that. Now. You can see how he

1127
00:52:51,440 --> 00:52:54,440
Speaker 19: must be thinking. All his dreams have been shattered. But

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Speaker 19: as long as he thinks positively, he thinks right, I'm

1129
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Speaker 19: going to go out there, I'm going to prove them wrong.

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Speaker 19: He can still he can still.

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00:53:01,680 --> 00:53:04,400
Speaker 2: Good on Andrew Knights to catch Uppreciated very much, Andrew Benson,

1132
00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:07,279
Speaker 2: who's with the BBC's Formula One correspondent, next race this

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Speaker 2: coming weekend week in of course, Japan, sixteen to two.

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Speaker 1: The Mike Hosking Breakfast a full show podcast on iHeartRadio

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00:53:17,160 --> 00:53:18,520
Speaker 1: powered by News Talks at be.

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Speaker 2: Mike Snoda's got ties with Honda. I heard he's the

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00:53:22,120 --> 00:53:23,600
Speaker 2: son of a Honda owner. I don't but I don't

1138
00:53:23,600 --> 00:53:25,799
Speaker 2: think that's true. He's definitely got ties to Honda. Honda

1139
00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:28,040
Speaker 2: sponsored him right from the very first days in racing.

1140
00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:29,799
Speaker 2: They pay millions of dollars to Red Bull to have

1141
00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:31,960
Speaker 2: them in a car, and that's why they've paid twenty

1142
00:53:31,960 --> 00:53:33,880
Speaker 2: million dollars to get them into the Red Bull. But

1143
00:53:33,960 --> 00:53:36,400
Speaker 2: that's not unusual. And if one, money comes with drivers,

1144
00:53:36,400 --> 00:53:38,719
Speaker 2: and drivers come with money it's what made sort of

1145
00:53:38,760 --> 00:53:41,360
Speaker 2: laws and slightly different in the sense he wasn't a

1146
00:53:41,360 --> 00:53:43,360
Speaker 2: Mazapin if you remember the name Masapin. A couple of

1147
00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:46,120
Speaker 2: years ago, he was tied to a Russian oligarch. When

1148
00:53:46,120 --> 00:53:48,359
Speaker 2: the war broke out, they had to be jettisoned out

1149
00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:51,880
Speaker 2: of the business. Stroll is the son of Lawrence Stroll,

1150
00:53:51,920 --> 00:53:54,080
Speaker 2: who owns Aston Martin. There are plenty of people with

1151
00:53:54,120 --> 00:53:56,680
Speaker 2: plenty of money who aren't there. You talk about the

1152
00:53:56,719 --> 00:53:58,319
Speaker 2: twenty best drivers in the world, there aren't the twenty

1153
00:53:58,360 --> 00:54:00,279
Speaker 2: best drivers in the world. It's probably about sixteen of

1154
00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:01,719
Speaker 2: the best drivers in the world, and the other four

1155
00:54:01,719 --> 00:54:05,640
Speaker 2: are there for other reasons. Someone like Lewis Hamilton's genuine genius,

1156
00:54:05,760 --> 00:54:10,000
Speaker 2: and Alonzo's a genuine genius, and Leclaire is brilliant, and

1157
00:54:10,040 --> 00:54:13,799
Speaker 2: Norris and Piastre are brilliant, and Lawsons brilliant, but some

1158
00:54:13,840 --> 00:54:16,440
Speaker 2: of the others are slightly nefarious in their connections. Mike,

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00:54:16,480 --> 00:54:18,759
Speaker 2: I know absolutely nothing about the car racing, but I'm

1160
00:54:18,800 --> 00:54:21,160
Speaker 2: fascinated by what's happening with Liam. I often feel when

1161
00:54:21,200 --> 00:54:24,239
Speaker 2: young people who are extremely good at sport, for example gymnastics,

1162
00:54:24,520 --> 00:54:26,560
Speaker 2: miss out on very important part of what is normal

1163
00:54:26,640 --> 00:54:30,239
Speaker 2: development from children into teenage years, so much pressure and expectation.

1164
00:54:30,560 --> 00:54:33,400
Speaker 2: I couldn't disagree with you more. I know what you're saying,

1165
00:54:33,960 --> 00:54:36,160
Speaker 2: and I get it. And there'll be any number of

1166
00:54:36,200 --> 00:54:39,400
Speaker 2: young people in Hollywood that went through the Disney program

1167
00:54:39,440 --> 00:54:41,640
Speaker 2: and were Mouseketeers that turned out to be complete and

1168
00:54:41,680 --> 00:54:44,760
Speaker 2: out of basket cases in later life, and that process

1169
00:54:44,800 --> 00:54:48,000
Speaker 2: seems to be a problem. But the idea of sport,

1170
00:54:48,120 --> 00:54:49,960
Speaker 2: what I've learned as a parent of five over the

1171
00:54:50,040 --> 00:54:53,280
Speaker 2: years is one, don't take your kid to every sport

1172
00:54:53,320 --> 00:54:57,200
Speaker 2: they want to try. Big, big mistake. All it is

1173
00:54:57,200 --> 00:55:01,239
Speaker 2: is hours and miles in a car, go nowhere, and

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00:55:01,280 --> 00:55:03,839
Speaker 2: you're probably and you'll hate me for saying this, You're

1175
00:55:03,920 --> 00:55:06,880
Speaker 2: probably better off going This is not going to happen

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00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:09,560
Speaker 2: for you. I'm going to the Olympics. I'm going to

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Speaker 2: win a medal, I'm going to be a world record holder.

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00:55:12,280 --> 00:55:14,239
Speaker 2: I'm going to play in the NBA. I'm going to

1179
00:55:14,280 --> 00:55:17,880
Speaker 2: play in the NFL. Chances are no, you're not. But

1180
00:55:18,680 --> 00:55:20,360
Speaker 2: every now and again, a motor racing is a very

1181
00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:23,319
Speaker 2: good example of this. When kids start young, and there's

1182
00:55:23,320 --> 00:55:25,080
Speaker 2: nothing wrong with putting a kid in a go kart.

1183
00:55:26,080 --> 00:55:29,680
Speaker 2: You see it, and you go there's something there, and

1184
00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:33,120
Speaker 2: you would be remiss as a parent not to explore

1185
00:55:33,160 --> 00:55:37,520
Speaker 2: that to its maximum or nth degree, because you don't

1186
00:55:37,520 --> 00:55:39,919
Speaker 2: want to be a parent who then goes what if?

1187
00:55:40,480 --> 00:55:43,239
Speaker 2: And so I support Liam's parents and all the other

1188
00:55:43,400 --> 00:55:46,160
Speaker 2: parents like it who have let their kids live their

1189
00:55:46,280 --> 00:55:48,239
Speaker 2: dream and to a degree still living a dream.

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Speaker 12: You when you could say I could be that influencer,

1191
00:55:51,520 --> 00:55:53,239
Speaker 12: I could be one of the most important people in

1192
00:55:53,239 --> 00:55:54,279
Speaker 12: the world, like Andrew Tate.

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Speaker 2: You well, first of all, you failed as a parent immediately,

1194
00:55:58,080 --> 00:56:00,000
Speaker 2: so you give yourself an upper cut on that normally

1195
00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:02,120
Speaker 2: have to do a say no, you can't. Nine minutes

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Speaker 2: away from eight the.

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Speaker 1: My Hosking Breakfast with a Vita Retirement Communities News togs Head.

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00:56:08,080 --> 00:56:10,480
Speaker 2: Be how much of Lawson is Marco v Horner. That's

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Speaker 2: a very good question, well done. Six minutes. I don't

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00:56:12,680 --> 00:56:14,160
Speaker 2: know the answer, but it's a very good question. Six

1201
00:56:14,200 --> 00:56:15,640
Speaker 2: minutes away from it's been a good week for New

1202
00:56:15,719 --> 00:56:17,520
Speaker 2: Zealand wine with the news. When it comes to America,

1203
00:56:17,600 --> 00:56:21,520
Speaker 2: New Zealand's the only country to increase imports again, Data

1204
00:56:21,560 --> 00:56:23,799
Speaker 2: Bank stats. This is sixteenth year in a row that

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00:56:23,840 --> 00:56:26,040
Speaker 2: we've gone growth on growth on growth, on growth, on

1206
00:56:26,040 --> 00:56:29,279
Speaker 2: growth anyway, and Vivo Wine founded. Tim Lightborne's back with us. Tim,

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00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:30,319
Speaker 2: very good morning to you.

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Speaker 10: Good morning.

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00:56:31,680 --> 00:56:34,799
Speaker 2: Why are you in America? You sound like you're here in.

1210
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Speaker 11: New Zealand this time. Just came back about two weeks ago.

1211
00:56:37,080 --> 00:56:40,279
Speaker 2: Good the level of penetration in America, you know, a

1212
00:56:40,320 --> 00:56:42,960
Speaker 2: country of three hundred and twenty thirty million people. Are

1213
00:56:43,000 --> 00:56:45,160
Speaker 2: you just New York or Los Angeles? Are we sort

1214
00:56:45,160 --> 00:56:47,840
Speaker 2: of infiltrating Kansas and Delaware?

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00:56:48,840 --> 00:56:48,920
Speaker 10: Ye?

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00:56:49,040 --> 00:56:51,279
Speaker 11: No, we're definitely intertrating a number of states. So if

1217
00:56:51,280 --> 00:56:53,800
Speaker 11: we look at Florida, for example, we're pretty huge over there.

1218
00:56:53,960 --> 00:56:55,759
Speaker 11: But yeah, right around the country actually, so not just

1219
00:56:55,840 --> 00:56:57,080
Speaker 11: New York or California.

1220
00:56:57,120 --> 00:56:58,840
Speaker 2: What's the room do you reckon for growth?

1221
00:57:00,160 --> 00:57:02,360
Speaker 11: But we're only three point six of the market, so

1222
00:57:02,640 --> 00:57:04,720
Speaker 11: you know, if we can double that, it's pretty interesting

1223
00:57:04,760 --> 00:57:08,440
Speaker 11: for us. Save on blanc, our major export is number

1224
00:57:08,440 --> 00:57:10,560
Speaker 11: three rietals, so we're still only half the size of

1225
00:57:10,920 --> 00:57:13,200
Speaker 11: Chardonnay for example, Sir, there's big opportunities.

1226
00:57:13,239 --> 00:57:15,920
Speaker 2: And so because we don't do much chardona in this country,

1227
00:57:15,960 --> 00:57:18,320
Speaker 2: does that hold us back? If Chardona is the number

1228
00:57:18,360 --> 00:57:18,800
Speaker 2: one tipple?

1229
00:57:19,960 --> 00:57:22,720
Speaker 11: Now, look, we track thirty six different grape for ittls

1230
00:57:23,080 --> 00:57:25,320
Speaker 11: and Sevion Blanc is the only one in great So

1231
00:57:25,560 --> 00:57:28,200
Speaker 11: you know, if you keep pumping Savignon, it's a big opportunity.

1232
00:57:28,240 --> 00:57:30,440
Speaker 2: Do you reckon that? Everarens I've been asking this question

1233
00:57:30,480 --> 00:57:32,840
Speaker 2: for twenty five, if not thirty years. At some point

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00:57:32,840 --> 00:57:35,280
Speaker 2: the servin Yon Blanc bubble bursts, do you reckon it?

1235
00:57:35,280 --> 00:57:38,560
Speaker 2: Does not as far as I can see it.

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00:57:38,600 --> 00:57:40,440
Speaker 11: I met a lot of buyers last month, and you know,

1237
00:57:40,520 --> 00:57:42,280
Speaker 11: when you walk into that room, they're all sort of

1238
00:57:42,960 --> 00:57:44,800
Speaker 11: you know, we're like a breath of fresh air, fresh

1239
00:57:44,840 --> 00:57:45,760
Speaker 11: air for New Jelender.

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00:57:46,520 --> 00:57:48,880
Speaker 2: Well, can you ask a lot and what about price?

1241
00:57:49,120 --> 00:57:51,000
Speaker 2: How do we handle on price? And we up we're

1242
00:57:51,040 --> 00:57:52,320
Speaker 2: at the top end, don't we.

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00:57:52,440 --> 00:57:55,160
Speaker 11: Ish, Well, we're about fifteen to twenty, which is seen

1244
00:57:55,200 --> 00:57:56,280
Speaker 11: as premium over there.

1245
00:57:56,600 --> 00:57:58,880
Speaker 2: Okay, and is that growing? So do we sell more

1246
00:57:58,960 --> 00:58:01,120
Speaker 2: or do we sell the same with more money?

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00:58:03,080 --> 00:58:05,240
Speaker 11: That category is still growing, which is good for New Zealand.

1248
00:58:05,840 --> 00:58:07,480
Speaker 11: So if we just sort of keep pumping that fifteen

1249
00:58:07,560 --> 00:58:09,880
Speaker 11: to twenty and not sort of drop it down to

1250
00:58:09,920 --> 00:58:11,920
Speaker 11: that below fifteen, keep going.

1251
00:58:11,760 --> 00:58:13,560
Speaker 2: Well, what's your vibe on tariffs?

1252
00:58:14,800 --> 00:58:16,720
Speaker 11: We just don't know at the moment. So it's hard

1253
00:58:16,720 --> 00:58:19,520
Speaker 11: to plan for. What we do know is in twenty

1254
00:58:19,600 --> 00:58:23,080
Speaker 11: nineteen is a twenty five percent tariffrom France, Spain and Germany.

1255
00:58:23,640 --> 00:58:26,040
Speaker 11: And that didn't destroy the industry. So no, you know,

1256
00:58:26,040 --> 00:58:27,360
Speaker 11: we'll see what We'll see what happens.

1257
00:58:27,440 --> 00:58:30,640
Speaker 2: See my theory. Tell me if I'm naive my argument,

1258
00:58:30,680 --> 00:58:32,760
Speaker 2: it's something like wine. At the top end of wine,

1259
00:58:32,800 --> 00:58:34,960
Speaker 2: you could put a little bit of something on the

1260
00:58:35,000 --> 00:58:37,920
Speaker 2: price a dollar and people would still buy it because

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00:58:37,960 --> 00:58:40,560
Speaker 2: they seek it out, they like it. Is that fair

1262
00:58:40,680 --> 00:58:42,560
Speaker 2: or not? Yeah? I think so.

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00:58:42,760 --> 00:58:44,520
Speaker 11: And if again, if we look back in what happened

1264
00:58:44,520 --> 00:58:47,560
Speaker 11: twenty nineteen, there was a slight price increase and it

1265
00:58:47,640 --> 00:58:49,600
Speaker 11: was absorbed. They stop, people still keep buying.

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00:58:50,080 --> 00:58:52,640
Speaker 2: Interesting. Hey, you know Graham Norton's in the country, don't you.

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00:58:53,720 --> 00:58:54,200
Speaker 7: Yeah, we did.

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00:58:54,240 --> 00:58:56,720
Speaker 11: We actually had him in Marlbury yesterday. We're picking grapes

1269
00:58:56,760 --> 00:58:58,520
Speaker 11: with them. He was tasting juice. He was having a

1270
00:58:58,520 --> 00:58:59,280
Speaker 11: great time there.

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00:58:59,320 --> 00:59:01,640
Speaker 2: You good. Nice to catch up with the Tim Tim Lightbourn,

1272
00:59:01,680 --> 00:59:04,840
Speaker 2: who is the Vibo wine founder. Tie up of course

1273
00:59:04,880 --> 00:59:07,680
Speaker 2: with Graham Norton, who happens to be here. But as

1274
00:59:07,680 --> 00:59:09,480
Speaker 2: I mentioned with then, and I'm glad to hear that

1275
00:59:09,560 --> 00:59:11,680
Speaker 2: theory of mine could be correct because, as I mentioned

1276
00:59:11,680 --> 00:59:14,720
Speaker 2: earlier on the program, Ferrari are simply increasing the price

1277
00:59:14,760 --> 00:59:17,439
Speaker 2: of their cars by ten percent and so don't worry

1278
00:59:17,440 --> 00:59:19,840
Speaker 2: about the tariffs. The people who buy Ferrari's have got

1279
00:59:19,840 --> 00:59:21,600
Speaker 2: another ten percent and we'll just whack that on the

1280
00:59:21,600 --> 00:59:24,439
Speaker 2: top and Bob's your uncle. As simple as that news

1281
00:59:24,440 --> 00:59:26,800
Speaker 2: for you in a couple of moments. Then we'll do

1282
00:59:26,880 --> 00:59:29,040
Speaker 2: the week with Tim and Kay Murray olds by the way,

1283
00:59:29,080 --> 00:59:33,080
Speaker 2: elbows off to the Jigi. The elections on. It's the

1284
00:59:33,120 --> 00:59:35,520
Speaker 2: early part of May. The budget's been held this week.

1285
00:59:35,600 --> 00:59:38,880
Speaker 2: Dutton had his reply last night. He's going with cheaper petrol.

1286
00:59:39,720 --> 00:59:43,680
Speaker 2: Labor's going with a cup of coffee, So coffy v petrol.

1287
00:59:43,840 --> 00:59:46,280
Speaker 2: That's your decision in Australia. It is election type. So

1288
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Speaker 2: Murray on that later news is next day.

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00:59:59,320 --> 01:00:04,760
Speaker 1: Make ho been fateful, engaging and vital. The mic asking

1290
01:00:04,800 --> 01:00:08,840
Speaker 1: breakfast with the range Rover vi La designed to intrigue

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01:00:08,880 --> 01:00:10,840
Speaker 1: and use togs that'd be Mike is.

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Speaker 2: Disappointing as laws and news this you could spend some

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Speaker 2: effort and time getting snooker back on the television would

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01:00:16,440 --> 01:00:19,440
Speaker 2: be appreciated. Have you Ronnio Selbem let me come back

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01:00:19,440 --> 01:00:21,480
Speaker 2: to Roneo Sullivan for a couple of months. Very good

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Speaker 2: point about the snooker.

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Speaker 10: Who's this.

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Speaker 2: The Diggin Blue? They're back with the Great Western Road.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I assume it's a Scottish row because

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01:00:38,600 --> 01:00:42,200
Speaker 2: they're Scottish. It's been five years since they released their

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01:00:42,280 --> 01:00:47,560
Speaker 2: chart topping City of Love and the smash signal Dignity

1302
01:00:47,320 --> 01:00:52,040
Speaker 2: a single Dignity. This new album, this is very bland.

1303
01:00:52,240 --> 01:00:53,640
Speaker 2: It's got a very bland fun.

1304
01:00:56,760 --> 01:01:00,400
Speaker 7: Sometimes you just want a little bit of pop, you.

1305
01:01:01,880 --> 01:01:01,960
Speaker 12: Know.

1306
01:01:03,560 --> 01:01:08,000
Speaker 2: It's about Yeah, it's about accepting responsibility for one's choices

1307
01:01:08,080 --> 01:01:11,520
Speaker 2: and doing so embracing the freedom. There are twelve tracks,

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01:01:13,600 --> 01:01:17,240
Speaker 2: and that totals up to forty six minutes and forty

1309
01:01:17,280 --> 01:01:19,000
Speaker 2: seconds worth of Deacon Blue.

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Speaker 1: The Week in Review with two degrees fighting for fear

1311
01:01:23,280 --> 01:01:24,680
Speaker 1: for Kiwi Business.

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Speaker 2: Tom Wilson's Willers along with kay Hawks me good morning

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01:01:27,520 --> 01:01:29,240
Speaker 2: you too, good morning.

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Speaker 17: I'm just mike. If we're all going to start setting

1315
01:01:32,120 --> 01:01:35,520
Speaker 17: fire to our red bullcans like people sit fire the Teasels's.

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01:01:37,520 --> 01:01:38,880
Speaker 2: I've decided Christian.

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01:01:38,560 --> 01:01:42,680
Speaker 17: Horner is the most unlikable. He's even more unlikable than

1318
01:01:42,720 --> 01:01:47,480
Speaker 17: Megan Markle, and that for me is so distasteful, isn't it.

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01:01:47,520 --> 01:01:49,520
Speaker 17: I have felt sick all week for Liam and I

1320
01:01:49,560 --> 01:01:52,720
Speaker 17: loved your correspondent from the BBC earlier, you know, put

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01:01:52,760 --> 01:01:54,400
Speaker 17: a really positive spin on it, that Liam's got to

1322
01:01:54,400 --> 01:01:58,440
Speaker 17: stay positive and I do believe that. But what a massive, psychological,

1323
01:01:58,800 --> 01:02:02,720
Speaker 17: incredibly tough blow this must have been for a twenty

1324
01:02:02,760 --> 01:02:03,480
Speaker 17: three year old kid.

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Speaker 2: I just I feel sick for Do you know what

1326
01:02:05,840 --> 01:02:09,520
Speaker 2: I like about that? And because you represent what I've

1327
01:02:09,720 --> 01:02:12,440
Speaker 2: what I've felt this week is that no one this

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01:02:12,520 --> 01:02:15,120
Speaker 2: whole country has been invested in this one story. So

1329
01:02:15,240 --> 01:02:16,920
Speaker 2: all I do is bang on about if One and

1330
01:02:16,920 --> 01:02:20,400
Speaker 2: people going on about and suddenly we've bought. We're all

1331
01:02:20,560 --> 01:02:22,960
Speaker 2: f one fans this week, and so the sport has

1332
01:02:23,000 --> 01:02:26,480
Speaker 2: benefited from people's interest and we will at least some

1333
01:02:26,520 --> 01:02:28,920
Speaker 2: people will hang around for the Liam story and that

1334
01:02:29,080 --> 01:02:33,160
Speaker 2: and that is the power of an individual from New

1335
01:02:33,240 --> 01:02:35,520
Speaker 2: Zealand who gets to the elite of elite, and that

1336
01:02:35,600 --> 01:02:37,760
Speaker 2: what's brilliant about the story is that if One is

1337
01:02:37,800 --> 01:02:40,680
Speaker 2: the elite. It's not like any other sport. It's the

1338
01:02:40,720 --> 01:02:43,040
Speaker 2: biggest sport in the world and it's right up there

1339
01:02:43,040 --> 01:02:46,840
Speaker 2: with the NBA and Major League Baseball and football and

1340
01:02:46,840 --> 01:02:48,640
Speaker 2: stuff like that, and we're a part of it. Can

1341
01:02:48,680 --> 01:02:50,240
Speaker 2: you shut that dog up? How hard can it be?

1342
01:02:50,560 --> 01:02:51,640
Speaker 12: And Doggie loves it?

1343
01:02:51,920 --> 01:02:54,240
Speaker 17: But I do think also that, Yeah, I mean, we

1344
01:02:54,320 --> 01:02:55,840
Speaker 17: might be fans of F one, but I think what

1345
01:02:55,880 --> 01:02:58,320
Speaker 17: we're fans of was lead Laws is what we're fans of.

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01:02:59,200 --> 01:03:04,360
Speaker 12: And can I just ask a question though, like Red

1347
01:03:04,360 --> 01:03:07,960
Speaker 12: Bull and known for prioritizing immediate results rather than sort

1348
01:03:08,000 --> 01:03:11,240
Speaker 12: of long term stuff like this.

1349
01:03:11,000 --> 01:03:11,600
Speaker 2: Not like this.

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01:03:11,600 --> 01:03:13,840
Speaker 12: This is an extreme version of it, And we don't

1351
01:03:13,880 --> 01:03:16,720
Speaker 12: have all the information, Like, we don't know what's happening

1352
01:03:16,800 --> 01:03:19,960
Speaker 12: internally obviously, but it just seems that, you know, if

1353
01:03:20,000 --> 01:03:22,000
Speaker 12: you go out to dinner with the devil, you're going

1354
01:03:22,080 --> 01:03:23,960
Speaker 12: to get stuck with the bill at some point. So

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Speaker 12: I imagine that Liam, being a smart young man, what

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01:03:27,480 --> 01:03:28,480
Speaker 12: in fact did this in a bit?

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01:03:29,320 --> 01:03:32,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think it's a good point. I don't

1358
01:03:32,040 --> 01:03:34,200
Speaker 2: think it'll ruin him. He's still an F one. I

1359
01:03:34,240 --> 01:03:35,960
Speaker 2: get all of that. But you know, all I can

1360
01:03:36,040 --> 01:03:39,520
Speaker 2: imagine is that he, of all the people who had

1361
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Speaker 2: been promoted into F one, was at the right end.

1362
01:03:42,880 --> 01:03:44,480
Speaker 2: He was at the he was at the I could

1363
01:03:44,520 --> 01:03:46,440
Speaker 2: be a world champion. I can win a race, I

1364
01:03:46,480 --> 01:03:48,920
Speaker 2: can get cups and prizes and earn millions. He was

1365
01:03:48,960 --> 01:03:50,480
Speaker 2: at that end. He wasn't just at the back with

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01:03:50,560 --> 01:03:53,360
Speaker 2: Sourburn all the other losers. He was at he was

1367
01:03:53,440 --> 01:03:56,640
Speaker 2: he was at the party. And then that so quickly

1368
01:03:56,680 --> 01:03:57,479
Speaker 2: got snatched away.

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01:03:58,600 --> 01:04:00,960
Speaker 12: Talent always rises hell come well.

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Speaker 2: One would hope, so one would.

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Speaker 17: I just hope you can get his confidence back, because

1372
01:04:05,240 --> 01:04:07,520
Speaker 17: you could just see in his face he just he

1373
01:04:07,600 --> 01:04:09,280
Speaker 17: was trying so hard to be a team player.

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Speaker 9: He did.

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01:04:09,600 --> 01:04:12,320
Speaker 2: He looks see what do you do? So two questions

1376
01:04:12,360 --> 01:04:14,080
Speaker 2: for you, Katie, because you're good at this. So first

1377
01:04:14,120 --> 01:04:16,520
Speaker 2: of all, do you like Helmet Marco or not? So

1378
01:04:16,600 --> 01:04:18,919
Speaker 2: Helmet Marco comes out this morning like Helmet Marco does

1379
01:04:18,960 --> 01:04:21,800
Speaker 2: and goes it was a mistake and he wasn't. He

1380
01:04:21,880 --> 01:04:25,840
Speaker 2: lost his confidence. Now that's brutal, but it's true. So

1381
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Speaker 2: do you like that or not? And then second question,

1382
01:04:28,720 --> 01:04:30,600
Speaker 2: what do you do as a parent sitting in Pocaco

1383
01:04:30,720 --> 01:04:33,080
Speaker 2: in New Zealand watching a twenty three year old go

1384
01:04:33,120 --> 01:04:34,480
Speaker 2: through that? Do you jump on a plane, do you

1385
01:04:34,560 --> 01:04:38,280
Speaker 2: jump on the phone, do you have quick text? What

1386
01:04:38,280 --> 01:04:38,680
Speaker 2: do you do?

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01:04:38,800 --> 01:04:40,840
Speaker 17: I mean, are they not there. I mean, I'd just

1388
01:04:40,880 --> 01:04:43,120
Speaker 17: be there cobbing us back.

1389
01:04:43,560 --> 01:04:47,560
Speaker 2: Just say so tough, I just I just does that

1390
01:04:47,600 --> 01:04:48,520
Speaker 2: make you a helicopter?

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01:04:50,560 --> 01:04:51,280
Speaker 19: He's going to need.

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01:04:51,200 --> 01:04:53,120
Speaker 17: Something, He's going to have to need some support because

1393
01:04:53,280 --> 01:04:55,400
Speaker 17: this is a ruthless, brutal, tough, tough team.

1394
01:04:55,480 --> 01:04:57,040
Speaker 18: These are horrible, horrible.

1395
01:04:56,680 --> 01:04:59,920
Speaker 17: Guys, and they're all about money and assets and just winning,

1396
01:05:00,040 --> 01:05:01,200
Speaker 17: and they're not about the person.

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01:05:01,200 --> 01:05:03,320
Speaker 9: And that's why Christian Horner is just so.

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01:05:04,000 --> 01:05:07,200
Speaker 17: It's not for a minute that he's interested in duty

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01:05:07,200 --> 01:05:07,680
Speaker 17: of care.

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Speaker 12: This is so interesting. So Mike saw hearts and flowers,

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01:05:11,560 --> 01:05:14,000
Speaker 12: and then then it gets parental and suddenly you're being

1402
01:05:14,000 --> 01:05:16,160
Speaker 12: accused of being a helicopter and he's serving cups are

1403
01:05:16,160 --> 01:05:16,680
Speaker 12: hardened up.

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01:05:16,880 --> 01:05:19,800
Speaker 2: No, so no, it's a larch way trying to drive

1405
01:05:19,840 --> 01:05:22,200
Speaker 2: through a line. I'm here, I'm heading for the chicane.

1406
01:05:22,200 --> 01:05:24,120
Speaker 2: I'm looking for the apex. Do I lift off? Do

1407
01:05:24,160 --> 01:05:26,760
Speaker 2: I go through? Full speed? That's what I'm talking about.

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01:05:27,000 --> 01:05:29,360
Speaker 2: So tim off for you, as the older member of

1409
01:05:29,400 --> 01:05:33,560
Speaker 2: this particular group, Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, just

1410
01:05:33,600 --> 01:05:35,440
Speaker 2: back the truck up. I just want to know what

1411
01:05:35,440 --> 01:05:36,000
Speaker 2: it felt like.

1412
01:05:36,000 --> 01:05:38,960
Speaker 12: To interview someone actually older than yourself and Bob Geldoff.

1413
01:05:39,200 --> 01:05:41,680
Speaker 2: Very funny anyway, Actually, very good, very good question. I

1414
01:05:41,680 --> 01:05:43,600
Speaker 2: have an answer after the break more shortly twelve minutes

1415
01:05:43,640 --> 01:05:44,320
Speaker 2: past eight.

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Speaker 1: The Mic Hosking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered

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01:05:49,520 --> 01:05:50,240
Speaker 1: by News Talks.

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Speaker 2: It be news Talks. Fifteen past eight.

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01:05:53,640 --> 01:05:57,200
Speaker 1: The Week in Review with two degrees fighting for fair

1420
01:05:57,280 --> 01:05:58,320
Speaker 1: for Kiwi business.

1421
01:05:59,200 --> 01:06:01,080
Speaker 2: The moral Mic has not to get a perm. See

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01:06:01,160 --> 01:06:03,640
Speaker 2: isn't that interesting? I was thinking about that. Do you

1423
01:06:03,640 --> 01:06:09,160
Speaker 2: remember when Graham Thorne got a perm, Liam Lawson get

1424
01:06:09,160 --> 01:06:13,080
Speaker 2: a Oh come on, you can't have missed that, Liam Lawson, Liam,

1425
01:06:13,120 --> 01:06:15,280
Speaker 2: Liam got a perm. You got a perm at the front,

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01:06:15,480 --> 01:06:18,840
Speaker 2: You got a front perm when just before he started

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01:06:18,840 --> 01:06:20,360
Speaker 2: with Red Bull over the summer.

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01:06:22,200 --> 01:06:22,640
Speaker 15: Was natural.

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01:06:22,920 --> 01:06:25,000
Speaker 2: I just thought that was kind of a You fell

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01:06:25,080 --> 01:06:27,680
Speaker 2: for that line, did you? I thought that was natural?

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01:06:28,000 --> 01:06:29,400
Speaker 12: Have you ever had a perm?

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01:06:29,560 --> 01:06:33,560
Speaker 2: Of course not? Of course not all right, don't take

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01:06:33,600 --> 01:06:37,320
Speaker 2: that the reason This is why it's interesting. The reason

1434
01:06:37,320 --> 01:06:39,120
Speaker 2: no one gets a perm is because Mullett.

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01:06:39,240 --> 01:06:41,720
Speaker 12: Maybe you could have never made the reason.

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01:06:42,240 --> 01:06:44,720
Speaker 2: The reason I did not. The reason no one gets

1437
01:06:44,720 --> 01:06:47,200
Speaker 2: a perm is because Graham Thorne got a perm. And

1438
01:06:47,240 --> 01:06:50,480
Speaker 2: when Graham Thorne got a perm, the entire nation stopped.

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01:06:50,480 --> 01:06:52,600
Speaker 2: It was the same. It was roughly at the same

1440
01:06:52,600 --> 01:06:54,840
Speaker 2: time when Angela Dawdney got out of breasts.

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01:06:54,960 --> 01:06:59,800
Speaker 12: Remember that, Oh my goodness, can we just pivot the

1442
01:06:59,800 --> 01:07:02,960
Speaker 12: sumber that Angela?

1443
01:07:03,640 --> 01:07:07,920
Speaker 2: Just imagine? So you had You must remember Tim Graham

1444
01:07:07,920 --> 01:07:09,680
Speaker 2: Thorne got his perm on the television when he was

1445
01:07:09,680 --> 01:07:12,360
Speaker 2: reading sport on television. He turned up on Yeah, yeah,

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01:07:12,360 --> 01:07:13,760
Speaker 2: he did, he did.

1447
01:07:13,760 --> 01:07:14,640
Speaker 12: When was that?

1448
01:07:14,960 --> 01:07:16,800
Speaker 2: It was the same time Angela dawd and he got

1449
01:07:16,800 --> 01:07:22,880
Speaker 2: out of breast. She turned up on a Sunday drama program.

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01:07:22,920 --> 01:07:26,560
Speaker 2: The nation's leading newsreader turned up one weekend on a

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01:07:26,600 --> 01:07:27,560
Speaker 2: Sunday half naked.

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01:07:28,480 --> 01:07:29,320
Speaker 1: Why just.

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01:07:30,800 --> 01:07:32,080
Speaker 12: Keep keep your T shirt on?

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01:07:32,480 --> 01:07:34,600
Speaker 2: Just keep your T shirt on. That's a good question, Katie.

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01:07:34,640 --> 01:07:39,360
Speaker 2: But didn't stop and doing. Okay, where were we? It was, Bob,

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01:07:39,920 --> 01:07:42,439
Speaker 2: very good question. Before the book, So Bob Geldoff walks

1457
01:07:42,480 --> 01:07:46,400
Speaker 2: into the studio yesterday. He claims to remember me, which

1458
01:07:46,480 --> 01:07:51,160
Speaker 2: was complete crap, of course, But well, I mean, you know,

1459
01:07:51,200 --> 01:07:53,240
Speaker 2: we did a thing twenty years ago when I was

1460
01:07:53,320 --> 01:07:55,360
Speaker 2: last year in two thousand and seven, two thousand and eight,

1461
01:07:55,400 --> 01:07:58,080
Speaker 2: And the only thing that triggered his memory was Malcolm McLaren.

1462
01:07:58,120 --> 01:08:01,320
Speaker 2: Because Malcol McLaren was here, and he was particularly memorable

1463
01:08:01,320 --> 01:08:02,800
Speaker 2: as an individual. The fact that I was in the

1464
01:08:02,880 --> 01:08:06,120
Speaker 2: roomors in no consequence whatsoever. Anyway, first thing I say

1465
01:08:06,160 --> 01:08:08,960
Speaker 2: to Bob, I said, I said, what are you doing

1466
01:08:09,000 --> 01:08:11,680
Speaker 2: for yourself? He goes, what do you mean? I go,

1467
01:08:11,800 --> 01:08:15,160
Speaker 2: you look incredible. He goes, f off. He couldn't believe.

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01:08:15,160 --> 01:08:16,400
Speaker 2: I said, no, you look incredible.

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01:08:16,400 --> 01:08:17,920
Speaker 1: What's on the news?

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Speaker 9: I agree with Bob, I don't know what you were saying.

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01:08:20,040 --> 01:08:20,280
Speaker 16: Again.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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01:08:21,960 --> 01:08:25,800
Speaker 2: I go home and Kadie goes, what's the matter with you?

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01:08:25,960 --> 01:08:30,200
Speaker 2: He looks like a wreck. And I said, and.

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01:08:30,080 --> 01:08:32,880
Speaker 17: You're like, what's your fitness regime? You look amazing.

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01:08:35,120 --> 01:08:38,559
Speaker 12: I have five pints of Guinness for breakfast and after

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01:08:38,720 --> 01:08:40,599
Speaker 12: that I get into the Scotch whiskey.

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01:08:40,760 --> 01:08:42,920
Speaker 2: It's funny you should say that, because because I said,

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01:08:42,960 --> 01:08:46,400
Speaker 2: the reason I'm asking is you're lean and you look flexible,

1480
01:08:46,479 --> 01:08:48,559
Speaker 2: which he does. So he walks. The answer is, now,

1481
01:08:48,560 --> 01:08:51,080
Speaker 2: here's the thing, and he was hiding it. He walks

1482
01:08:51,479 --> 01:08:53,640
Speaker 2: a decent distance every day from his home to the

1483
01:08:53,640 --> 01:08:56,360
Speaker 2: office in London, a forty five minute walk there and back,

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01:08:56,360 --> 01:08:58,800
Speaker 2: so that's ninety minutes of walking a day, and he

1485
01:08:58,880 --> 01:09:03,120
Speaker 2: eats what he eats one meal a day, and so

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01:09:03,160 --> 01:09:06,519
Speaker 2: he's a he's an intimate faster, and so he eats

1487
01:09:06,560 --> 01:09:09,200
Speaker 2: at three o'clock, and so he likes to feel hungry.

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01:09:09,280 --> 01:09:10,960
Speaker 2: He says, I like to feel hungry, and I feel

1489
01:09:11,040 --> 01:09:12,880
Speaker 2: hungry each day at about two o'clock. At three o'clock,

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01:09:12,920 --> 01:09:16,120
Speaker 2: I eat, I eat anything I want. And then then

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01:09:16,160 --> 01:09:18,800
Speaker 2: he has a scotch. I said he'd drink a lot,

1492
01:09:19,080 --> 01:09:22,120
Speaker 2: and he goes, I don't have it, not a drinker's lot,

1493
01:09:22,280 --> 01:09:24,479
Speaker 2: which I thought was a lovely Irish saying, not a

1494
01:09:24,560 --> 01:09:28,519
Speaker 2: drinker's lot, but I have a scotch Larsa. When he arrived,

1495
01:09:28,600 --> 01:09:30,479
Speaker 2: he said, we had a scotch, and I went for

1496
01:09:30,520 --> 01:09:32,879
Speaker 2: a walk, and then he came back for some wines.

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01:09:33,000 --> 01:09:34,240
Speaker 2: So he has a scotch, some wines.

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Speaker 17: You might be talking out of turn here, because this

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01:09:35,880 --> 01:09:36,960
Speaker 17: is all of this.

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Speaker 2: I say, but I eat now. No, Bob won't sue

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01:09:40,280 --> 01:09:42,599
Speaker 2: me for this. Bob and I go back twenty years here,

1502
01:09:43,880 --> 01:09:46,640
Speaker 2: you're old mates, exactly. So anyway, he just looked like

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01:09:46,920 --> 01:09:49,680
Speaker 2: a vital you know. So yes, visually you might look

1504
01:09:49,680 --> 01:09:51,080
Speaker 2: at him and go, what a wreck, But he's but

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01:09:51,160 --> 01:09:55,200
Speaker 2: he's vital, and he's alert and that's good stuff.

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Speaker 17: And he's still working, which is good.

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Speaker 2: It's what you were saying earlier about purpose, which is

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Speaker 2: so true.

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Speaker 17: All the new research says it's more than anything is

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01:10:00,840 --> 01:10:02,400
Speaker 17: to have purpose, which.

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Speaker 2: Is why I like what Aliston said this week so much.

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Speaker 2: At the age of eighty, does he look eighty. I

1513
01:10:07,880 --> 01:10:09,760
Speaker 2: don't think he looks eighty. I think he looks seventy four.

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01:10:10,960 --> 01:10:12,000
Speaker 19: Yeah, he's doing what he does.

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Speaker 12: He doesn't lookated, he doesn't located.

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Speaker 17: Just for a drunker and a smoker.

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01:10:15,600 --> 01:10:16,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, well that's the thing.

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01:10:16,800 --> 01:10:19,360
Speaker 12: That's the thing. Back back to that thing with purpose, though,

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Speaker 12: I wonder if he was confusing purpose with structure because

1520
01:10:22,479 --> 01:10:24,320
Speaker 12: he was talking about and I think it's I think

1521
01:10:24,520 --> 01:10:26,360
Speaker 12: because he said it doesn't matter what your purpose is,

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Speaker 12: I would I would submit that it does matter what

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01:10:28,200 --> 01:10:30,600
Speaker 12: your purpose is, because some of the greatest dictators in

1524
01:10:30,600 --> 01:10:34,439
Speaker 12: the world's history have had purpose, and so purpose does matter.

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Speaker 12: But he was talking about structure. People who say, for example,

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Speaker 12: if you're unemployed, you don't have that you may have

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01:10:40,400 --> 01:10:42,439
Speaker 12: if you have a crappy job, You've still got something

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01:10:43,240 --> 01:10:45,120
Speaker 12: to put around yourself.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, And I think that's his purpose. And the

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Speaker 2: more I meet the Bob geldofs this world, especially in

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01:10:50,880 --> 01:10:53,760
Speaker 2: that area. I'm absolutely one hundred percent convinced that the

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01:10:53,800 --> 01:10:56,080
Speaker 2: fact they still perform, at least half because most of

1533
01:10:56,080 --> 01:10:58,120
Speaker 2: them don't need the money, at least half of it

1534
01:10:58,200 --> 01:10:59,680
Speaker 2: is the design to be out of bed, to be

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01:10:59,720 --> 01:11:01,720
Speaker 2: really to have a purpose, to write a song, to

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01:11:01,720 --> 01:11:03,639
Speaker 2: sing a song, to get some feedback, to be part

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Speaker 2: of something, and that's what keeps you light and healthy

1538
01:11:05,840 --> 01:11:07,719
Speaker 2: and well, it was a lovely interview.

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01:11:07,720 --> 01:11:09,599
Speaker 17: He's a really really lovely guy.

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Speaker 2: By the sounds. Can I just ask one more question before? Yes,

1541
01:11:12,000 --> 01:11:14,719
Speaker 2: he is a lovely guy, you correct. Can I just actually,

1542
01:11:15,160 --> 01:11:19,559
Speaker 2: I'll give this away. I met my hero yesterday, well,

1543
01:11:19,560 --> 01:11:21,639
Speaker 2: one of my heroes yesterday. And you know they say

1544
01:11:21,680 --> 01:11:23,280
Speaker 2: never meet your heroes. Well I met one of my

1545
01:11:23,320 --> 01:11:25,599
Speaker 2: heroes yesterday, and I had the best possible time.

1546
01:11:27,120 --> 01:11:27,760
Speaker 12: Who's the hero?

1547
01:11:28,000 --> 01:11:34,200
Speaker 2: Bruce Hornsby Bruce Hornsby in the range CG. But okay,

1548
01:11:34,280 --> 01:11:37,760
Speaker 2: oh my goodness, And I thought, I hope this goes well.

1549
01:11:37,800 --> 01:11:39,320
Speaker 2: You know, when of those interviews you go, I hope

1550
01:11:39,320 --> 01:11:41,200
Speaker 2: this goes well. And it did go well, and it

1551
01:11:41,240 --> 01:11:43,639
Speaker 2: went fantastically well. So that was that was my thrill

1552
01:11:43,680 --> 01:11:46,160
Speaker 2: for the day. Quick quick question to finalize.

1553
01:11:45,600 --> 01:11:48,360
Speaker 17: This, when's Bruce Hornsby on you should take?

1554
01:11:48,400 --> 01:11:49,760
Speaker 2: So that's a bit of question than the one I

1555
01:11:49,800 --> 01:11:52,520
Speaker 2: was going to ask. The answer is, shall we say Tuesday?

1556
01:11:52,800 --> 01:11:57,080
Speaker 2: The week after the week after next? Sam's telling the.

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01:11:59,479 --> 01:12:02,679
Speaker 12: Virtually this is the deepest t eas in the history

1558
01:12:02,720 --> 01:12:05,439
Speaker 12: of radio. Leyton Smith will be scowling at the radio

1559
01:12:05,520 --> 01:12:05,880
Speaker 12: right now.

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01:12:06,479 --> 01:12:09,200
Speaker 2: I'm out late Layton next to Well, We've got Joe

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01:12:09,240 --> 01:12:11,640
Speaker 2: Parker coming in, and I'm not going to be the

1562
01:12:11,640 --> 01:12:14,599
Speaker 2: one to tell Joe Parker we bumped him for Bruce Hornsby.

1563
01:12:14,680 --> 01:12:17,000
Speaker 2: So Joe Parker's in the studio, So that's it going

1564
01:12:17,080 --> 01:12:18,479
Speaker 2: to go. Well now, it's not going to get well,

1565
01:12:18,520 --> 01:12:20,760
Speaker 2: but Bruce Hornsby some time before the end of the year.

1566
01:12:20,840 --> 01:12:24,240
Speaker 2: Let's let's let's trailer that and see what we're anyway.

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01:12:24,400 --> 01:12:26,680
Speaker 2: Nice to see you, guys. Kate hawksby Tim Wilson, Ate

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Speaker 2: twenty two.

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Speaker 1: The Mike Hosking Breakfast with the Range Rover Villa News

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Speaker 1: Togs Dead.

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Speaker 2: B Now Chemis's warehouse. They got the qualified pharmacists, they

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Speaker 2: got the nurse immunizers available in store for the vaccinations

1573
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Speaker 2: and for many in our community, those vaccinations are free,

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Speaker 2: so your head in store. You can book online if

1575
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Speaker 2: you like to get the old flu Vax before winter.

1576
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Speaker 2: And Chemists Warehouse they're offering the flu vas for twenty

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Speaker 2: two ninety nine, but it is free for pregnant people,

1578
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Speaker 2: anyone over the age of sixty five and those with

1579
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Speaker 2: certain chronic conditions and to bocan if you want more details.

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Speaker 2: Chemist Warehouse dot co dot in zed Ford slash flu

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Speaker 2: and Chemists Warehouse will continue to open early, close late,

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Speaker 2: have pharmacists available on hand to dispense the advice at

1583
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Speaker 2: any time you need it. So as they continue to

1584
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Speaker 2: open the more communities across the country, Chemists Warehouse is

1585
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Speaker 2: going to continue their mission to make health and wellness

1586
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Speaker 2: more accessible, more affordable for everyone every day, no matter

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Speaker 2: what the future holds. Now to find out more and

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Speaker 2: to shop the unbeatable Chemists Warehouse range. You're head in store,

1589
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Speaker 2: do it online, but whatever you do, stop paying too

1590
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Speaker 2: much with Chemis's Warehouse. Asking Thorny's texted, I'll never be forgotten.

1591
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Speaker 2: Good to hear from your Graham, Mac.

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Speaker 7: I feel like I can only remember him having permed here.

1593
01:13:33,400 --> 01:13:37,479
Speaker 2: It's probably because you're younger, back a little further regular here.

1594
01:13:37,600 --> 01:13:39,080
Speaker 7: That's how much younger I am than you.

1595
01:13:39,160 --> 01:13:39,720
Speaker 2: That's so true.

1596
01:13:40,120 --> 01:13:42,320
Speaker 7: Back in the days when everybody wore brown on TV.

1597
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Speaker 2: They still do. It's back Peter here. You don't have

1598
01:13:46,520 --> 01:13:48,599
Speaker 2: to introduce yourself that way, Peter, but thanks very much

1599
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Speaker 2: for doing so. You have to be of a certain

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Speaker 2: vintage to remember Thorny's perman, Angela's appearance on The Governor. Yes,

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Speaker 2: you do. That's quite right to read. Lim talent is

1602
01:13:57,160 --> 01:14:00,439
Speaker 2: exploited by management all the time, sadly, that's true. Have

1603
01:14:00,520 --> 01:14:04,240
Speaker 2: seen it often in the music industry. Yeah, that happens

1604
01:14:04,240 --> 01:14:07,320
Speaker 2: a lot. There's no one in New Zealand that believes

1605
01:14:07,320 --> 01:14:09,559
Speaker 2: Mike Hosking hasn't had a perm Look straight up, and

1606
01:14:09,560 --> 01:14:12,400
Speaker 2: now here's a couple of things. Here's a couple of

1607
01:14:12,400 --> 01:14:13,880
Speaker 2: things that and I used to get it a lot

1608
01:14:13,920 --> 01:14:18,040
Speaker 2: on television. And two things I've done. I've never done

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01:14:18,080 --> 01:14:22,360
Speaker 2: anything to myself in based on the very simple premise

1610
01:14:22,479 --> 01:14:26,160
Speaker 2: that once you do something to yourself, it requires a

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01:14:26,240 --> 01:14:30,160
Speaker 2: level of maintenance. Are we still talking about here, correct? No, Well, no,

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01:14:30,240 --> 01:14:32,559
Speaker 2: I've broadened it out to anything, but I've never done

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01:14:32,600 --> 01:14:35,679
Speaker 2: anything to myself in terms of I've had no botox.

1614
01:14:35,720 --> 01:14:37,519
Speaker 2: A lot of people accuse me of botox because I'm

1615
01:14:37,560 --> 01:14:41,280
Speaker 2: so good looking. I've never dyed my hair, and a

1616
01:14:41,280 --> 01:14:43,080
Speaker 2: lot of people accuse me of dying hair, especially when

1617
01:14:43,120 --> 01:14:44,720
Speaker 2: I was on television that was just like, I've never

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01:14:44,760 --> 01:14:47,360
Speaker 2: died my hair couldn't be bothered. And I've never had

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01:14:47,400 --> 01:14:49,080
Speaker 2: a perm because it couldn't be bothered doing that either.

1620
01:14:49,120 --> 01:14:52,799
Speaker 2: And I've never had a breast enhancement because that's just trouble.

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01:14:53,040 --> 01:14:56,679
Speaker 2: So I basically what you see is what you get.

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Speaker 1: Us opinion and everything in between. The Mic Hosking Breakfast

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01:15:02,040 --> 01:15:06,479
Speaker 1: with Bailey's real estate altogether better across residential, commercial and

1624
01:15:06,600 --> 01:15:08,400
Speaker 1: rural news, togs head be It's.

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Speaker 2: The reference at the start of the hour to Ronnie

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Speaker 2: Sullivan and the snooker. Now the Ronnea Sullivan's fascinating and

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01:15:14,320 --> 01:15:17,160
Speaker 2: Sky I don't know whether Sky have snooker anymore. I

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01:15:17,160 --> 01:15:18,600
Speaker 2: can never find it and I don't know why I

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01:15:18,640 --> 01:15:20,840
Speaker 2: pay them, you know, for all the channels that Sky

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01:15:20,960 --> 01:15:25,400
Speaker 2: run at the moment on sport and the absolute crap

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Speaker 2: they fill it with. This is not sport that I

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01:15:28,479 --> 01:15:31,640
Speaker 2: don't like personally. This is just like sport of no

1633
01:15:31,800 --> 01:15:34,880
Speaker 2: interest to anybody, just random sports from around the world.

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Speaker 2: Why they don't run the snooker got no idea. Tour

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01:15:37,080 --> 01:15:40,000
Speaker 2: Championships are on this weekend, which is the tournament before

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Speaker 2: the World Championships. This is at the famed Crucible. The

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01:15:43,200 --> 01:15:46,320
Speaker 2: reason Ronnie's worth mentioning is Ronnie played in a tournament

1638
01:15:46,320 --> 01:15:48,680
Speaker 2: at the very very start of the year, played appallingly

1639
01:15:49,479 --> 01:15:52,639
Speaker 2: smacked's que against the table and has not been seen since.

1640
01:15:53,240 --> 01:15:55,360
Speaker 2: And some of these tournaments that he might have wanted

1641
01:15:55,400 --> 01:15:57,560
Speaker 2: to be in the last couple, including this to a

1642
01:15:57,600 --> 01:16:00,280
Speaker 2: championship this weekend, he might have wanted to put disipate

1643
01:16:00,360 --> 01:16:02,720
Speaker 2: into warm himself up for the Worlds. He hasn't been

1644
01:16:02,720 --> 01:16:04,599
Speaker 2: able to because he didn't participate in the other ones

1645
01:16:04,640 --> 01:16:06,120
Speaker 2: he didn't have enough points, and because he didn't have

1646
01:16:06,200 --> 01:16:09,080
Speaker 2: enough points, he couldn't get entry. So if he turns

1647
01:16:09,160 --> 01:16:12,000
Speaker 2: if and it's a big if, if he turns up

1648
01:16:12,160 --> 01:16:14,360
Speaker 2: at the World's at the Crucible, it will be the

1649
01:16:14,400 --> 01:16:16,240
Speaker 2: first time basically we've seen him all year. And of

1650
01:16:16,240 --> 01:16:18,479
Speaker 2: course you don't want to go into the World's completely cold,

1651
01:16:18,520 --> 01:16:20,679
Speaker 2: which he will be. So one of two things will happen.

1652
01:16:20,680 --> 01:16:23,280
Speaker 2: If he turns up. One he'll be like what you

1653
01:16:23,280 --> 01:16:25,559
Speaker 2: would expect a person to be hasn't played competitive snook

1654
01:16:25,600 --> 01:16:29,200
Speaker 2: for all year, or he'll do something amazing and rewrite

1655
01:16:29,200 --> 01:16:31,639
Speaker 2: another chapter in the Ronie Sutherland book. I hope he's

1656
01:16:31,680 --> 01:16:34,599
Speaker 2: there because if he's not, the next point is, if

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01:16:34,600 --> 01:16:37,599
Speaker 2: he isn't there at the world's are I would expect

1658
01:16:38,320 --> 01:16:40,599
Speaker 2: a retirement twenty two minutes away from.

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Speaker 14: Nine International correspondence with ends and eye insurance. Peace of

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01:16:44,960 --> 01:16:47,400
Speaker 14: mind for New Zealand business ybar Murray.

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Speaker 2: Old, good morning, good Mike, Good morning to you. What

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01:16:50,600 --> 01:16:52,640
Speaker 2: time is he leaving for the GGS.

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Speaker 18: Well, I'm not one hundred percent sure. I haven't spoken

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01:16:57,040 --> 01:16:59,600
Speaker 18: to Elbow this morning, but the Prime Minister is we

1665
01:16:59,680 --> 01:17:02,880
Speaker 18: understan stand hopping in the uber and ducking down the

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01:17:02,960 --> 01:17:05,960
Speaker 18: road to the Governor General's House in Canberra there to

1667
01:17:06,439 --> 01:17:10,960
Speaker 18: ask her Excellency to dissolve the government because he wants

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01:17:11,040 --> 01:17:13,679
Speaker 18: to go to an election on May the third. That's

1669
01:17:13,960 --> 01:17:16,280
Speaker 18: all the drum. I heard this actually from a leak

1670
01:17:16,720 --> 01:17:20,280
Speaker 18: early this week on Monday, and he said, you watch

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01:17:21,400 --> 01:17:23,800
Speaker 18: the Prime Minister wants to take a lot of the

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01:17:23,880 --> 01:17:26,880
Speaker 18: sting out of Peter Dutton's Budget reply speech which was

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01:17:27,000 --> 01:17:30,040
Speaker 18: last night in the Parliament, of course, and I said, yeah,

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01:17:30,040 --> 01:17:32,760
Speaker 18: sure about that is normally Saturday or Sunday afternoon as

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01:17:32,800 --> 01:17:36,559
Speaker 18: the much more traditional you know, a departure for Yara

1676
01:17:36,640 --> 01:17:40,280
Speaker 18: Lumbla where the Governor General lives. And my contact said,

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01:17:40,360 --> 01:17:43,599
Speaker 18: don't worry about that. Friday morning is the go for Elbow.

1678
01:17:43,720 --> 01:17:46,360
Speaker 18: So well, no, I suppose about nine o'clock Mike, about

1679
01:17:46,360 --> 01:17:49,120
Speaker 18: eleven o'clock your time. But I love the smell of

1680
01:17:49,120 --> 01:17:49,880
Speaker 18: an election in the.

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Speaker 2: Morning, cannot I'm genuinely excited about it for a large

1682
01:17:53,120 --> 01:17:54,920
Speaker 2: variety of reasons, some of which I'll work with you

1683
01:17:54,960 --> 01:17:57,519
Speaker 2: in a moment. So, Dutton, they're not doing tax cuts,

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01:17:57,800 --> 01:18:02,120
Speaker 2: they're doing cheaper petrol us Elbows coffee. So is it

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01:18:02,160 --> 01:18:04,679
Speaker 2: a five dollar coffee or as the fourteen dollars petrol?

1686
01:18:05,240 --> 01:18:08,400
Speaker 2: Is that what the election is going to be fought over? Well?

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Speaker 18: Interesting last night when Dunton floated as yesterday ahead of

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01:18:11,280 --> 01:18:13,880
Speaker 18: his speech. Last night, all the evening television newsers were

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Speaker 18: at petrol pumps across the nation, the sunburnt nation, saying

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01:18:17,680 --> 01:18:19,599
Speaker 18: what do you want? Do you want fourteen bucks off

1691
01:18:19,680 --> 01:18:22,800
Speaker 18: your fill up or what you prefer as you say,

1692
01:18:23,960 --> 01:18:26,320
Speaker 18: like a five dollars tax cut which won't start till

1693
01:18:26,360 --> 01:18:29,679
Speaker 18: next year, every single person that I want cheaper fill

1694
01:18:30,360 --> 01:18:32,800
Speaker 18: and I could you know I share your concern with

1695
01:18:32,840 --> 01:18:35,320
Speaker 18: your Bentley Continental. I looked up this morning. It takes

1696
01:18:35,400 --> 01:18:38,360
Speaker 18: ninety liters of premium that costs you about two hundred

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01:18:38,360 --> 01:18:39,200
Speaker 18: bucks to fill her up.

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01:18:39,680 --> 01:18:41,639
Speaker 2: Not in New Zealand, it doesn't cost about three hundred

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01:18:41,680 --> 01:18:44,360
Speaker 2: and fifty dollars. You see, like a good filler paying

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01:18:44,400 --> 01:18:46,639
Speaker 2: three dollars a liter here mate, But here's the problem

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01:18:46,680 --> 01:18:49,559
Speaker 2: with petrel. When you go to the pump. Although technically

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01:18:49,640 --> 01:18:52,599
Speaker 2: this fourteen cents off a liter or whatever is off

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01:18:52,600 --> 01:18:54,240
Speaker 2: a liter, you don't know that because the price goes

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01:18:54,320 --> 01:18:56,240
Speaker 2: up and down every single day. Do you ever feel

1705
01:18:56,240 --> 01:18:58,920
Speaker 2: like I feel better for this? Whereas a tax cut

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01:18:59,000 --> 01:18:59,720
Speaker 2: is real, isn't it.

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Speaker 18: Well, yes, the tax cut is real, but it's often

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01:19:02,439 --> 01:19:05,479
Speaker 18: than never never, And you know, I mean really it's

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01:19:05,680 --> 01:19:08,719
Speaker 18: seventy three cents a day or something at the moment

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01:19:08,760 --> 01:19:12,200
Speaker 18: for the average earner. I mean right now, look, you

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Speaker 18: and I have discussed this for the last three years.

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Speaker 18: Cost of living is going to drive this election. It's

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Speaker 18: going to be a lot more than a fuel you know,

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01:19:18,760 --> 01:19:22,080
Speaker 18: A fourteen dollars cut at the at the bowser versus

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01:19:22,600 --> 01:19:26,479
Speaker 18: a cup of coffee. But you know what, that kind

1716
01:19:26,479 --> 01:19:28,719
Speaker 18: of sums it up because people are hurting. They're hurting

1717
01:19:28,720 --> 01:19:32,439
Speaker 18: with high interest rates, bloody high mortgage costs, you know,

1718
01:19:32,720 --> 01:19:35,320
Speaker 18: just getting through the day, getting through the week, putting

1719
01:19:35,320 --> 01:19:37,439
Speaker 18: food on the table. It's tougher than it's ever been.

1720
01:19:37,600 --> 01:19:39,800
Speaker 2: Tell you what I saw interestingly yesterday with some party.

1721
01:19:39,880 --> 01:19:42,639
Speaker 2: You've all seen it too. Polling in Victoria. The Teals

1722
01:19:42,680 --> 01:19:44,920
Speaker 2: are in trouble and Victoria. I don't know whether this

1723
01:19:45,000 --> 01:19:48,240
Speaker 2: is nationwide or whether it's just Victoria, but these are

1724
01:19:48,240 --> 01:19:50,400
Speaker 2: the sort of areas the Nets or the Coalition are

1725
01:19:50,400 --> 01:19:51,680
Speaker 2: going to look to pick up that they're going to

1726
01:19:51,680 --> 01:19:52,639
Speaker 2: do anything, aren't they?

1727
01:19:52,640 --> 01:19:53,639
Speaker 18: Oh, no doubt.

1728
01:19:53,680 --> 01:19:54,400
Speaker 10: I mean Couyong.

1729
01:19:54,600 --> 01:19:57,000
Speaker 18: That was taken by a woman called Monique Ryan. She's

1730
01:19:57,080 --> 01:20:01,040
Speaker 18: very well known locally. Her husband's been caught down posters

1731
01:20:01,080 --> 01:20:04,360
Speaker 18: of the liberal candidate up against his wife. Kuyong is

1732
01:20:04,439 --> 01:20:08,360
Speaker 18: as blue, blue ribboned liberal as you can ever imagine.

1733
01:20:08,400 --> 01:20:11,240
Speaker 18: I mean it was held by the last I mean Friedenburg,

1734
01:20:11,280 --> 01:20:14,960
Speaker 18: the last treasurer. He got rolled by this Teal independent.

1735
01:20:15,560 --> 01:20:15,800
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1736
01:20:15,920 --> 01:20:18,360
Speaker 18: Maybe, you know, I think maybe she might be in

1737
01:20:18,400 --> 01:20:20,720
Speaker 18: a bit of trouble because people don't like seeing the

1738
01:20:20,880 --> 01:20:25,240
Speaker 18: husband of the local member tearing down posters for the opposition.

1739
01:20:25,400 --> 01:20:29,160
Speaker 18: But you contrast that with the strength the Teals. For

1740
01:20:29,200 --> 01:20:34,559
Speaker 18: example here in Sydney, over in Perth, the Teal woman

1741
01:20:34,600 --> 01:20:37,639
Speaker 18: there whose name is a Chainey, I just forget now,

1742
01:20:38,360 --> 01:20:40,759
Speaker 18: she is rock solid, and that they are talking about

1743
01:20:40,760 --> 01:20:43,080
Speaker 18: picking up more Teal seats.

1744
01:20:43,280 --> 01:20:45,320
Speaker 2: This is everything, says Mike.

1745
01:20:45,360 --> 01:20:47,880
Speaker 18: It's going to be a hung parliament. It just depends

1746
01:20:48,200 --> 01:20:50,160
Speaker 18: which one is going to be able to form government.

1747
01:20:50,240 --> 01:20:53,360
Speaker 18: Dutton from the right or Albanezy from the left. And

1748
01:20:54,200 --> 01:20:57,040
Speaker 18: you know, I'll bet you London to a brick. There's

1749
01:20:57,040 --> 01:20:58,920
Speaker 18: no way the Greens are going to back Dutton. No

1750
01:20:59,040 --> 01:21:01,560
Speaker 18: way in on God's earth, nothing will do.

1751
01:21:02,040 --> 01:21:04,080
Speaker 2: And fair, I think it's fair to say no way

1752
01:21:04,120 --> 01:21:05,599
Speaker 2: in the world that the Teals are going to back

1753
01:21:05,680 --> 01:21:09,280
Speaker 2: dunt A. They I mean they swing left, don't they.

1754
01:21:10,120 --> 01:21:13,479
Speaker 18: They do lean left, yes they do, notwithstanding the fact

1755
01:21:13,479 --> 01:21:15,800
Speaker 18: that they all I think, every single one of the

1756
01:21:15,840 --> 01:21:18,759
Speaker 18: Teals are currently in the Federal Parliament. They are sitting

1757
01:21:18,760 --> 01:21:22,120
Speaker 18: in seats that, by rights should you belong to the party.

1758
01:21:22,200 --> 01:21:24,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, it'll be interesting. I was watching somebody yesterday who

1759
01:21:24,920 --> 01:21:26,840
Speaker 2: said and I thought, yeah, it's not a bad point.

1760
01:21:27,080 --> 01:21:30,080
Speaker 2: So the Coalition need twenty they're not going to get it,

1761
01:21:30,680 --> 01:21:33,360
Speaker 2: so they'll get something short of that. They need ten

1762
01:21:33,439 --> 01:21:36,559
Speaker 2: or above for Dutton not to quit. Would that be

1763
01:21:36,640 --> 01:21:39,120
Speaker 2: your assessment? In other words, you can't suit. Yeah, you

1764
01:21:39,160 --> 01:21:39,639
Speaker 2: know what I mean.

1765
01:21:40,439 --> 01:21:42,240
Speaker 18: I can't see him quitting. Honest to god, I can't

1766
01:21:42,240 --> 01:21:43,880
Speaker 18: see him quitting. If he's going to go, he's going

1767
01:21:43,960 --> 01:21:48,280
Speaker 18: to be rolled because don't forget Dutton. Back in twenty eighteen,

1768
01:21:48,800 --> 01:21:53,800
Speaker 18: when Malcolm Turnbull imploded, all the polling pointed to Peter

1769
01:21:53,880 --> 01:21:57,000
Speaker 18: Dutton taking over. Guess what the last minute he was

1770
01:21:57,080 --> 01:22:01,200
Speaker 18: rolled by bringing the drums and buddy, hallelujah is Scott

1771
01:22:01,200 --> 01:22:04,439
Speaker 18: Morrison for God's sake? And he led us through COVID

1772
01:22:04,880 --> 01:22:08,680
Speaker 18: and then imploded himself. This is Dutton's second crack. I

1773
01:22:08,680 --> 01:22:11,320
Speaker 18: cannot see him resigning. He's just too he's too much

1774
01:22:11,320 --> 01:22:15,000
Speaker 18: of a hard nosed competitor mite. But his side will think,

1775
01:22:15,200 --> 01:22:17,120
Speaker 18: m this is the best chance you're ever going to have.

1776
01:22:17,479 --> 01:22:20,200
Speaker 18: Labor has stumbled and bumbled its way through the last

1777
01:22:20,240 --> 01:22:22,400
Speaker 18: three years. If he's not going to win now, is

1778
01:22:22,400 --> 01:22:24,280
Speaker 18: he ever going to win that? Maybe the assessment of

1779
01:22:24,320 --> 01:22:24,840
Speaker 18: colleagues this.

1780
01:22:24,960 --> 01:22:27,519
Speaker 2: Christophler guy in Queensland when he announced that he would

1781
01:22:27,520 --> 01:22:29,599
Speaker 2: never build anything for the Olympics, and then he announced

1782
01:22:29,640 --> 01:22:31,320
Speaker 2: he was going to build something for the Olympics. How

1783
01:22:31,360 --> 01:22:32,479
Speaker 2: do you do that with a straight face?

1784
01:22:33,240 --> 01:22:35,599
Speaker 18: Well, look, I mean it's all lies and that he's

1785
01:22:35,600 --> 01:22:38,840
Speaker 18: smoking mirrors, isn't it. I mean no, it's like saying,

1786
01:22:38,880 --> 01:22:41,000
Speaker 18: if Auckland was going to have the Olympic Games, we're

1787
01:22:41,040 --> 01:22:45,640
Speaker 18: going to you know, completely redo Eden Park. What why, No,

1788
01:22:45,760 --> 01:22:48,200
Speaker 18: you're not, You're going to build something brand new and

1789
01:22:48,240 --> 01:22:51,560
Speaker 18: shining and sparkly. That's the same as the Gabara and Queensland.

1790
01:22:51,960 --> 01:22:54,280
Speaker 18: The gab has been there since eighteen hundred and ninety.

1791
01:22:54,320 --> 01:22:56,040
Speaker 18: I think there's no way known that we're ever going

1792
01:22:56,080 --> 01:22:57,400
Speaker 18: to refer. Then they're going to have to have a

1793
01:22:57,400 --> 01:22:59,680
Speaker 18: brand new stadium. And if you look at a map

1794
01:22:59,720 --> 01:23:02,200
Speaker 18: of brick has been for those who are remotely interested,

1795
01:23:02,479 --> 01:23:05,519
Speaker 18: there's this beautiful, big green space right on the northern

1796
01:23:05,600 --> 01:23:08,360
Speaker 18: edge of the CBD. The river sort of snakes around

1797
01:23:08,400 --> 01:23:10,679
Speaker 18: the front of it. That's exactly where the new stadium

1798
01:23:10,720 --> 01:23:12,240
Speaker 18: is going to go. There's a new swimming pool as

1799
01:23:12,280 --> 01:23:14,320
Speaker 18: well going in there, and it's going to be the

1800
01:23:14,320 --> 01:23:19,000
Speaker 18: refirm the city needs, according to many locals, others are saying,

1801
01:23:19,000 --> 01:23:21,960
Speaker 18: hands off the park. You've got the classic the classic

1802
01:23:22,040 --> 01:23:24,080
Speaker 18: case of those who don't want it in their backyard

1803
01:23:24,400 --> 01:23:26,720
Speaker 18: and those who were saying already real estate agents. Mike

1804
01:23:26,840 --> 01:23:30,519
Speaker 18: is sprooking, Hey, come on, buy in the Olympic Zone,

1805
01:23:30,560 --> 01:23:33,200
Speaker 18: the Olympic EPI Center. People are running for the hills,

1806
01:23:33,439 --> 01:23:34,519
Speaker 18: any bloody minds.

1807
01:23:36,320 --> 01:23:37,960
Speaker 2: Nice to see you, mate, We'll see you next Friday.

1808
01:23:38,439 --> 01:23:40,519
Speaker 2: Buy a house in the Olympic Zone. Eight forty five.

1809
01:23:41,840 --> 01:23:46,280
Speaker 1: The Mike Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio, Howard

1810
01:23:46,280 --> 01:23:47,000
Speaker 1: By News.

1811
01:23:46,760 --> 01:23:47,280
Speaker 10: Talks at be.

1812
01:23:48,840 --> 01:23:51,080
Speaker 2: Mike. We went to Elie Pelly to see Ronnie play

1813
01:23:51,160 --> 01:23:55,640
Speaker 2: Just Magical. We very much missed. The snooker used to

1814
01:23:55,680 --> 01:23:59,400
Speaker 2: be run overnight. Yeah, it's there's no reason why Sky

1815
01:23:59,439 --> 01:24:00,680
Speaker 2: can't run the snookarobait.

1816
01:24:01,320 --> 01:24:02,240
Speaker 7: Is it too expensive?

1817
01:24:03,600 --> 01:24:05,799
Speaker 2: I would personally find that as much as I love snooker,

1818
01:24:05,840 --> 01:24:08,719
Speaker 2: I'd personally find that hard to believe. I mean, it's snooker,

1819
01:24:09,280 --> 01:24:09,840
Speaker 2: it's not If it.

1820
01:24:10,400 --> 01:24:13,200
Speaker 7: Is probably more expensive then I don't know. Yeah, one

1821
01:24:13,240 --> 01:24:14,920
Speaker 7: hundreds for professional disc golf.

1822
01:24:15,200 --> 01:24:18,040
Speaker 2: Well, it's also that and the American rugby seems to

1823
01:24:18,080 --> 01:24:20,559
Speaker 2: be prominently played on sky these days. But you may

1824
01:24:20,600 --> 01:24:25,240
Speaker 2: well be right by the way Power. We may spend

1825
01:24:25,280 --> 01:24:29,400
Speaker 2: more time on this next week. But Contact Energy are

1826
01:24:29,560 --> 01:24:31,320
Speaker 2: going to appeal. This is what I've been binging on

1827
01:24:31,360 --> 01:24:34,960
Speaker 2: about this week, This inexplicable wind farm in Southland that

1828
01:24:35,000 --> 01:24:37,800
Speaker 2: got turned down on the old fast track. They're going

1829
01:24:37,840 --> 01:24:39,479
Speaker 2: to go One, they're going to appeal it because they

1830
01:24:39,479 --> 01:24:41,879
Speaker 2: think it's flawed, as they should because it is flawed.

1831
01:24:42,280 --> 01:24:43,680
Speaker 2: But two they're going to have a crack under the

1832
01:24:43,680 --> 01:24:46,360
Speaker 2: new fast track. And if we can't build anything renewable

1833
01:24:46,360 --> 01:24:50,680
Speaker 2: in this country, then stop moaning about coal. Clearly, if

1834
01:24:50,680 --> 01:24:52,880
Speaker 2: you want renewable, at least allow people to get on

1835
01:24:52,920 --> 01:24:54,960
Speaker 2: and do it. The other one that's of interest at

1836
01:24:55,000 --> 01:24:56,880
Speaker 2: the moment you should be paying attention to. Apparently we're

1837
01:24:56,880 --> 01:24:59,639
Speaker 2: standing by for the Commerce Commission to make a decision.

1838
01:24:59,680 --> 01:25:03,120
Speaker 2: I can tell what the decision's going to be in

1839
01:25:03,200 --> 01:25:06,679
Speaker 2: terms of one company buying another. This is Contact buying Manoa,

1840
01:25:07,080 --> 01:25:09,680
Speaker 2: which used to be called trust power. Now what that

1841
01:25:09,840 --> 01:25:12,960
Speaker 2: means very simply is one big players buying another big player,

1842
01:25:13,040 --> 01:25:15,760
Speaker 2: and how they think the Commerce Commission's going to go cool.

1843
01:25:15,760 --> 01:25:17,439
Speaker 2: That looks like a really good idea to me to

1844
01:25:17,479 --> 01:25:19,559
Speaker 2: have less competition in the market. I got no idea.

1845
01:25:19,600 --> 01:25:21,600
Speaker 2: I mean, I personally couldn't care. But I know the

1846
01:25:21,600 --> 01:25:25,920
Speaker 2: Commics Commission do the Comments Commission wet themselves every day

1847
01:25:25,920 --> 01:25:28,600
Speaker 2: and angst over the lack of so called competition and

1848
01:25:28,640 --> 01:25:32,360
Speaker 2: petrol and supermarkets and power companies. So the last big

1849
01:25:32,400 --> 01:25:35,680
Speaker 2: decision the Commics Commission made involving electricity was twenty twenty one.

1850
01:25:36,040 --> 01:25:38,320
Speaker 2: It allowed Mercury to buy a trust Powers retail Aren't

1851
01:25:38,320 --> 01:25:41,760
Speaker 2: for half a billion. So anyway, we'll see how that goes.

1852
01:25:41,760 --> 01:25:44,200
Speaker 2: But I know how it goes. So I don't know

1853
01:25:44,240 --> 01:25:46,400
Speaker 2: what happens after that. Because as far as I can tell,

1854
01:25:46,400 --> 01:25:48,880
Speaker 2: one company buying another company, as much as that one

1855
01:25:48,880 --> 01:25:51,719
Speaker 2: company may go that's cool for us, sort of doesn't

1856
01:25:51,920 --> 01:25:56,000
Speaker 2: add to the overall pot of generation in this country,

1857
01:25:56,040 --> 01:25:59,120
Speaker 2: which is exactly what we need. So we should build

1858
01:25:59,160 --> 01:26:00,920
Speaker 2: a I don't know, watch we do. We should probably

1859
01:26:00,960 --> 01:26:02,519
Speaker 2: build a wind farm. I don't know. We should be

1860
01:26:02,800 --> 01:26:04,200
Speaker 2: in south then why don't we build a wind farm

1861
01:26:04,280 --> 01:26:06,800
Speaker 2: and certain see how it all goes. Nine minutes away

1862
01:26:06,800 --> 01:26:08,679
Speaker 2: from nine, the make.

1863
01:26:08,600 --> 01:26:12,120
Speaker 1: Hosking Breakfast with Bailey's Real estate news dogs, z'd.

1864
01:26:12,000 --> 01:26:14,920
Speaker 2: Be actually speaking of getting things done. I should have

1865
01:26:15,320 --> 01:26:17,639
Speaker 2: mentioned it earlier. But the greenfield model that was announced

1866
01:26:17,640 --> 01:26:21,760
Speaker 2: by Chris Bishop yesterday, whereby very simple terms, developers get

1867
01:26:21,800 --> 01:26:24,599
Speaker 2: access to money from a government pot. In other words,

1868
01:26:24,640 --> 01:26:26,640
Speaker 2: they just use their overdrafting. Because they got such a

1869
01:26:26,680 --> 01:26:28,519
Speaker 2: big overdraft, they can get the money at a cheaper rate.

1870
01:26:28,560 --> 01:26:31,160
Speaker 2: So you go along as a developer and you say

1871
01:26:31,280 --> 01:26:34,080
Speaker 2: I'm going to build a thousand houses over there, and

1872
01:26:34,120 --> 01:26:36,439
Speaker 2: you get the startup money and buy way of alone,

1873
01:26:36,439 --> 01:26:38,559
Speaker 2: of course, and you go build your houses and once

1874
01:26:38,600 --> 01:26:40,920
Speaker 2: you sell those houses, the levy gets paid back by

1875
01:26:40,920 --> 01:26:43,160
Speaker 2: the homeowner. So in other words, it's kind of like

1876
01:26:43,200 --> 01:26:46,120
Speaker 2: a kickstart for developers. That makes to me perfect sense.

1877
01:26:46,720 --> 01:26:50,040
Speaker 2: What doesn't make sense to me is why ear Chathams

1878
01:26:50,120 --> 01:26:52,840
Speaker 2: hand out Tim Tams, which is my revelation of the morning.

1879
01:26:52,880 --> 01:26:54,760
Speaker 2: So Sammy goes away, he's got an event the last

1880
01:26:54,800 --> 01:26:59,080
Speaker 2: couple of days and he's flying down to Wanganui our

1881
01:26:59,120 --> 01:27:03,040
Speaker 2: on Eed Chathams. Now why he didn't use Delta, United

1882
01:27:03,240 --> 01:27:05,639
Speaker 2: Emirates Singapore Airlines, I've got no idea. But he chose

1883
01:27:05,680 --> 01:27:08,840
Speaker 2: their chatters to the flying well exactly the three or

1884
01:27:08,840 --> 01:27:10,960
Speaker 2: four direct flights every day for goodness sake, anyway, So

1885
01:27:11,000 --> 01:27:13,960
Speaker 2: he takes ear chathams, and it's the weirdest thing I've

1886
01:27:13,960 --> 01:27:16,320
Speaker 2: I've mentioned this before, but I've never understood why people

1887
01:27:16,320 --> 01:27:19,400
Speaker 2: serve food on planes in this country. This is not America.

1888
01:27:19,479 --> 01:27:21,760
Speaker 2: It doesn't take six hours to get anywhere. You don't

1889
01:27:21,800 --> 01:27:24,160
Speaker 2: need to be fed. What you need is just to

1890
01:27:24,160 --> 01:27:26,719
Speaker 2: sit there quietly and you will land in about forty minutes,

1891
01:27:26,760 --> 01:27:28,240
Speaker 2: doesn't matter where you're going to make a bit.

1892
01:27:28,080 --> 01:27:29,599
Speaker 7: Longer than that, I think on the kind of plane

1893
01:27:29,600 --> 01:27:30,200
Speaker 7: they used to get you.

1894
01:27:30,360 --> 01:27:32,479
Speaker 2: Certainly it took semi an hour. It took it took

1895
01:27:32,520 --> 01:27:36,360
Speaker 2: seventy an hour ago from Auckland to Wanganui. So they

1896
01:27:36,400 --> 01:27:38,880
Speaker 2: hand out on ear chathams at tim Tam. And not

1897
01:27:38,920 --> 01:27:41,280
Speaker 2: only do they hand it out of tim Tam, they

1898
01:27:41,320 --> 01:27:43,519
Speaker 2: hand it out of a packet of tim Thames. So

1899
01:27:44,600 --> 01:27:47,960
Speaker 2: Brian or Tracy come along and they opened the packet.

1900
01:27:49,040 --> 01:27:49,920
Speaker 7: Did they use tongs?

1901
01:27:50,280 --> 01:27:50,479
Speaker 3: I do?

1902
01:27:51,200 --> 01:27:52,720
Speaker 2: They offer you the packet and they say, would you

1903
01:27:52,760 --> 01:27:53,320
Speaker 2: like a tim Tam?

1904
01:27:53,680 --> 01:27:56,560
Speaker 7: Not tongs? That they did grab it with a napkin apparently.

1905
01:27:56,240 --> 01:27:58,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, so they got a napkin. It's a napkin grab.

1906
01:27:58,720 --> 01:28:01,439
Speaker 2: It's the weirdest thing. Why are you doing this? What's

1907
01:28:01,520 --> 01:28:03,559
Speaker 2: the point five minutes away from nine.

1908
01:28:03,880 --> 01:28:08,519
Speaker 1: Trending now with Chemist Warehouse, the home of Big Brand vitamins.

1909
01:28:08,560 --> 01:28:10,960
Speaker 2: Leonardo DiCaprio does a movie every couple of years, so

1910
01:28:11,000 --> 01:28:12,840
Speaker 2: it's time to tell you what his latest movie is.

1911
01:28:12,880 --> 01:28:15,439
Speaker 2: It's called One Battle after Another. He's an activist, of course,

1912
01:28:15,439 --> 01:28:17,719
Speaker 2: he is fighting a revolution to save his daughter.

1913
01:28:17,760 --> 01:28:21,599
Speaker 7: Had an eyelash, good morning. There are no.

1914
01:28:21,560 --> 01:28:25,799
Speaker 17: Hens on the clock, why because they're not needed.

1915
01:28:26,680 --> 01:28:29,679
Speaker 8: What time is it?

1916
01:28:28,479 --> 01:28:32,080
Speaker 15: Ah, you know, I don't, I don't. I don't remember

1917
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Speaker 15: that part.

1918
01:28:32,439 --> 01:28:35,240
Speaker 4: All right, let's just not nitpick over the passwords.

1919
01:28:36,160 --> 01:28:38,559
Speaker 2: This is Bob Ferguson. I was a part of the

1920
01:28:38,600 --> 01:28:41,479
Speaker 2: French seventy five. I need to find my daughter.

1921
01:28:41,600 --> 01:28:43,840
Speaker 5: Well, then call us back when you have the time.

1922
01:28:44,880 --> 01:28:49,160
Speaker 2: You just you just you know, you are so unsuitable

1923
01:28:49,200 --> 01:28:49,840
Speaker 2: for my daughter.

1924
01:28:51,720 --> 01:28:56,320
Speaker 9: My cow comes from a whole line of revolutionary and

1925
01:28:56,439 --> 01:28:57,559
Speaker 9: you look so loss.

1926
01:28:58,840 --> 01:29:00,519
Speaker 1: Oh, not one thing, it's another.

1927
01:29:01,280 --> 01:29:06,040
Speaker 2: Find that to be true, a line of revolutionaries. That's

1928
01:29:06,080 --> 01:29:08,479
Speaker 2: a black comedy. By the way, if you wondered why

1929
01:29:08,479 --> 01:29:10,400
Speaker 2: there was so much weird piano music in the lines,

1930
01:29:10,479 --> 01:29:13,600
Speaker 2: it wasn't like serious. It was a black comedy. DiCaprio,

1931
01:29:13,680 --> 01:29:15,479
Speaker 2: isn't it Sean Penn. I've got a lot of time

1932
01:29:15,520 --> 01:29:18,000
Speaker 2: for Sean Penn, not his activism, but his acting can

1933
01:29:18,000 --> 01:29:24,080
Speaker 2: be quite good. Beneathio del Toro and Regina Hall are

1934
01:29:24,080 --> 01:29:26,840
Speaker 2: in that. I don't know who Regina Haul is, but

1935
01:29:26,920 --> 01:29:30,240
Speaker 2: that doesn't matter. It's out in cinemas on the twenty

1936
01:29:30,240 --> 01:29:33,760
Speaker 2: sixth of September. Worrying is late Sunday night, and that's

1937
01:29:33,800 --> 01:29:38,000
Speaker 2: my major problem for the weekend, because too late. Otherwise

1938
01:29:38,040 --> 01:29:40,160
Speaker 2: I'm going to be shabby on Monday morning, and you

1939
01:29:40,200 --> 01:29:42,080
Speaker 2: don't want me shabby on Monday. They don't pay me

1940
01:29:42,120 --> 01:29:43,759
Speaker 2: the sort of money they pay me to be shabby

1941
01:29:43,760 --> 01:29:45,080
Speaker 2: on a Monday morning. So I don't know what I'm

1942
01:29:45,080 --> 01:29:47,040
Speaker 2: going to do about that. But that's my problem, not yours.

1943
01:29:47,080 --> 01:29:49,160
Speaker 2: But as always, I wish you happy days.

1944
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1945
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1946
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