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Speaker 1: Now there's a script going on in Southland between Fed

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Speaker 1: Farmers and Fish and Game. So this court ruling has

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Speaker 1: meant three thousand farmers in the region will need to

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Speaker 1: apply for resource consent to farm. So as a result,

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Speaker 1: Fed Farmers wants their members to remove angler access from

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Speaker 1: their properties.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 1: Fed Farmers Southland president Jason Herricks with us on this

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Speaker 1: Jason Morning, to you the.

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Speaker 2: Morning, Mike, how are you on fine morning?

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Speaker 1: Very well? Indeed, this is the fame section seventy and

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Speaker 1: I started reading about Section seventy earlier on this week

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Speaker 1: and I wondered where this was going to go? How

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Speaker 1: long has this been bubbling?

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Speaker 2: This has been bubbling for a good number of years now.

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Speaker 2: So the Water and Land Plan within Environment Southland has

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Speaker 2: been ongoing for ten years and an out of Environment

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Speaker 2: courts and finally with the Court of Appeal. And we've

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Speaker 2: had no end to push back from Fish and Game

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Speaker 2: Southland here on this plan. But it's a lot more

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Speaker 2: than that. We've had a whole lot of issues from

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Speaker 2: gravel extraction to waternal lagoon issues to just general push

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Speaker 2: back a case farming practices full stop. Also the dirty

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Speaker 2: dairy and campaign that they run a good number of

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Speaker 2: years ago as well. You know, it's just been an

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Speaker 2: ongoing process with fish and game pushing back against everything

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Speaker 2: we're doing. And to be honest, this last one was

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Speaker 2: th the camel's back really.

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Speaker 1: Fair enough too. So having said that, I read from it.

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Speaker 1: I think it was McLay. I may be wrong, but

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Speaker 1: there was a minister in the government this week you said,

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Speaker 1: don't worry, we will get Section seventy sorted out. Is

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Speaker 1: that true? And do you believe them?

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Speaker 2: We'll believe it when we see it, right, So we

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Speaker 2: won't guarantee it until it happens. So we're not going

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Speaker 2: to you know, well on that now until it actually happens.

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Speaker 2: We're just absolutely sick of fishing Game South London on

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Speaker 2: the continuous bars pushback against us. So that's why we're

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Speaker 2: taking this call of action.

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Speaker 1: Having said that, Fishing Game, although they have gone to

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Speaker 1: court and although they are a pain in the ass,

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Speaker 1: have in fact one and so that's the process, isn't it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Well that's just on one judge's opinion and that's

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Speaker 2: the of them. It's not the get democratic when it

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Speaker 2: goes to the courts, right, it is one person's opinion

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Speaker 2: on the ideology or the approach that they want to take,

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Speaker 2: whether they're green or whether they're venturist or whatever. It's

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Speaker 2: all on one person. It's not actually democratic in our opinion.

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Speaker 1: What happened to and this was more generally from the

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Speaker 1: central government that this hole these people, it's under fast

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Speaker 1: track or it's under the IRMA or whatever, that these

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Speaker 1: people who hold things up by continually forever going to court,

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Speaker 1: all that's coming to an end. Is that not true?

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Speaker 2: Ah? I don't think it is, because we get given

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Speaker 2: these minority extremist groups the voice and keep giving them

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Speaker 2: the ammo, you know, and they're taking taxpayer and right

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Speaker 2: payers money and fighting these things in court. Ye see.

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Speaker 2: So this that's a precedent for all in New Zealand.

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Speaker 2: With the water and lamp plannet now allows all these

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Speaker 2: little extremist groups to now take all the regional councils

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Speaker 2: around New Zealand to task over their water and lamp

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Speaker 2: plan locally.

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Speaker 1: Well, I've got you, Jason. The business of the weather

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Speaker 1: and spring and all that sort of stuff is there

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Speaker 1: whole for spring that things are going to dry out

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Speaker 1: a bit and some grass is going to grow and

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Speaker 1: all that.

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Speaker 2: Oh look We're just taking the window one day at

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Speaker 2: a time now, where the forecast has been wrong on

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Speaker 2: so many occasions, you know, so if you're look too

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Speaker 2: far into the future and believe what the weather forecast says,

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Speaker 2: it can get you down. So you know, we just

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Speaker 2: wake up every day now and just take it as

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Speaker 2: it comes.

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Speaker 1: Good on you, Jason, go well, have a good week.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate it very much, Jason Herrick. I don't know

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Speaker 1: who I'm going to get, but we'll eventually deal with.

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Speaker 1: I didn't even bore you with the detail on Section

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Speaker 1: seventy's it's what you can do on a farm. In

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Speaker 1: other words, you know, are you allowed to discharge that

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Speaker 1: amount of effluent into where, et cetera. And so that's

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Speaker 1: the regional came back to the pugging thing. It's not dissimilar.

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Speaker 1: It's generally around the idea of what you can do

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Speaker 1: on a farm. So it's slope, it's pugging, it's discharge.

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Speaker 1: It's how the council sees your farm and what you

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Speaker 1: can and can't do, and so then they go to

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Speaker 1: court every time they because of course the fish and

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Speaker 1: game and people don't want you to do any farming

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Speaker 1: at all because can I just thank you so much

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Speaker 1: for reading that on my behalf the's no wherey do

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Speaker 1: you not find that grubbing section? Sivity? How do you

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