1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,040 Speaker 1: Now most keywis will know the name Mark Hadlow. He's 2 00:00:03,080 --> 00:00:05,560 Speaker 1: a New Zealand Order of Merit recipient. He's been in 3 00:00:05,640 --> 00:00:09,440 Speaker 1: King Kong, He's been in the Hobbit. He's an actor, comedian, singer, writer, 4 00:00:09,560 --> 00:00:11,920 Speaker 1: producer and director. Frankly, what is he not? He's also 5 00:00:11,960 --> 00:00:14,320 Speaker 1: a grumpy old man in Lykra, at least on stage. 6 00:00:14,360 --> 00:00:16,759 Speaker 1: You might remember. Back in twenty seventeen Mark had a 7 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:19,280 Speaker 1: one man show called Mammal, which was middle aged man 8 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:21,920 Speaker 1: and lycra. It's all about the male midlife crisis and 9 00:00:21,960 --> 00:00:24,079 Speaker 1: you know, turning to the road, cycling to relieve it 10 00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:27,120 Speaker 1: and stuff. He's now giving us Mammal two Gommel, which 11 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:29,000 Speaker 1: is Grumpy old Man and Lykra and it's coming to 12 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:32,920 Speaker 1: the Isaac Theater next year. Mark Hadlow is with us now, Mark. 13 00:00:32,880 --> 00:00:35,320 Speaker 2: Morning, and how are you. 14 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:37,320 Speaker 1: I'm very well. Thank you. You've done the show before 15 00:00:37,360 --> 00:00:38,960 Speaker 1: having you've done it in Nelson, didn't you. 16 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:41,760 Speaker 2: We opened it at Nelson about three weeks ago and 17 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:46,560 Speaker 2: loved it. Yeah, it was great being back in the saddle. 18 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:48,200 Speaker 2: Oh dear Lordie. 19 00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 1: When you say back in the saddle, do you mean 20 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:54,360 Speaker 1: back in the saddle on stage or literally cycling saddle. 21 00:00:54,480 --> 00:00:56,960 Speaker 2: No cycling baddle? Yeah is it? Those show opens with 22 00:00:57,040 --> 00:01:00,160 Speaker 2: a big sequence, so it's really interesting getting back on 23 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 2: Pinarello again. Oh my goodness, mate, are you. 24 00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:05,959 Speaker 1: Are you spending long enough in the saddle to get 25 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:06,839 Speaker 1: us all butt? 26 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:09,880 Speaker 2: It was very sore, It was very short in thin. 27 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:11,959 Speaker 2: When I got back on for rehearsals, I said to 28 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:14,400 Speaker 2: Gregory Cooper, I said, who was drinking? I said, Gregor, 29 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:16,679 Speaker 2: I don't think I can do this again. It's too sore, 30 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:20,959 Speaker 2: it said, Just man up, will you? 31 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:22,600 Speaker 1: And you haven't gone for one of those gel padded 32 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:23,120 Speaker 1: butt things. 33 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:27,759 Speaker 2: No goodness, you know that's cheating. That's very cheating. Oh yes, 34 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:32,200 Speaker 2: because you've got to develop your your bottom muscles. If 35 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:34,960 Speaker 2: you don't, it ends up. You can't make contact with 36 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 2: a seat. And the show is a little bit quick 37 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 2: to get in and off the saddle, so if I 38 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:41,120 Speaker 2: got a gel seat, I might slip off. That would 39 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:44,600 Speaker 2: be really painful down in amongst the engineering of the set, 40 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:47,000 Speaker 2: and I would be crushed. So I've got to be careful. 41 00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:49,200 Speaker 1: So I take it from the fact that your butt 42 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:51,600 Speaker 1: muscles are not actually attuned to the bike, you're not 43 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 1: actually a road cyclist at all. In real life. 44 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:56,160 Speaker 2: I am a little bit not as much as I 45 00:01:56,280 --> 00:01:58,280 Speaker 2: used to be, but I am about to get back 46 00:01:58,320 --> 00:02:00,800 Speaker 2: into it. There's some lots of now for me to 47 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:04,200 Speaker 2: go and do some promotional stuff. And Scottie Broll and 48 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:07,160 Speaker 2: I have been read it to a sort of a 49 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:12,240 Speaker 2: pilot for a little TV thing called to a Demoto, 50 00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:14,440 Speaker 2: which is going to be very exciting. We're very excited 51 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:14,880 Speaker 2: about that. 52 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:18,840 Speaker 1: Mark. I'd love to get into road cycling. I really 53 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:20,680 Speaker 1: would like to, but it freaks me out. I just 54 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:23,400 Speaker 1: get maybe I'm consuming too many stories about people being 55 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:25,560 Speaker 1: knocked off their bikes. But do you not worry about it? 56 00:02:26,320 --> 00:02:28,800 Speaker 2: Nah, because you've got to have a bit of common 57 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 2: sense and you just ride sensibly. I remember when I 58 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:33,480 Speaker 2: was a kid. You ride on the left hand side 59 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 2: of the road. That's where you ride. You don't ride 60 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:38,880 Speaker 2: in pairs, you don't ride in threes, you don't ride 61 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:42,840 Speaker 2: in fours. You just obey all of the road rules. Simple. 62 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:45,880 Speaker 1: But Mark, what about the numpties in the cars? A 63 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:47,520 Speaker 1: You're going to open their door just as you come 64 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:48,680 Speaker 1: and then you're into them. 65 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:51,840 Speaker 2: Well, that's common sense awareness. You see a car parked 66 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:53,480 Speaker 2: up on the left, you know you look in it. 67 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:56,280 Speaker 2: You see, if someone's there, you've just got to apply 68 00:02:56,400 --> 00:02:59,960 Speaker 2: common sense. Seriously, that's it. And also not being numpty. 69 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 2: Yeah the cleet, care for your clique and where where 70 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:06,640 Speaker 2: and where like, because chafing is not worth it. 71 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:10,800 Speaker 1: I love you actually turning into quite the road cyclist here. Well, okay, 72 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 1: so if you if you are a road cyclist, which 73 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:14,720 Speaker 1: is what at least one half of the content of 74 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:16,240 Speaker 1: the show, what about the other half, which is having 75 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:17,120 Speaker 1: a midlife chrisis? 76 00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:18,680 Speaker 2: Half? Have you had a half? 77 00:03:20,240 --> 00:03:21,560 Speaker 1: I was just gonna say, have you had the midlife 78 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 1: crisis as well? 79 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:25,320 Speaker 2: Oh? I had those. I've had three or four along 80 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:28,679 Speaker 2: the way. I think this time it's about a little 81 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:31,880 Speaker 2: bit of the older perspective from Wayne. Did you see 82 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 2: the show? Did you see Mammal? No? 83 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:33,679 Speaker 1: Never? 84 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:38,400 Speaker 2: Okay, Well in Mammal we had other characters was called 85 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:45,440 Speaker 2: Wayne who had a very very distinctive riding pedling technique 86 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:48,000 Speaker 2: and it was very funny. It is very funny, and 87 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:50,560 Speaker 2: it's actually based on someone I knew when I joined 88 00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:52,600 Speaker 2: a peloton when I was doing the Hobbit. That's how 89 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 2: this all eventuated. The Hobbit, I went with Titling and 90 00:03:56,240 --> 00:04:00,080 Speaker 2: I met Mike Mike had this extraordinary peddling style, and 91 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 2: I said, that's got to be in the show. So 92 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 2: he copied it. So he'll probably sue me one day 93 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:08,000 Speaker 2: for Oh, what's the pit hoop star? It's called knees 94 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:08,840 Speaker 2: a kimbo? 95 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:10,320 Speaker 1: Oh is it knees splayed? 96 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 2: Yeah? 97 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:13,760 Speaker 1: But I do that, Mark? Is that not? 98 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 2: Well, that's okay, I do it all the time. Maybe 99 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:21,400 Speaker 2: we should go riding sometimes together and compare his splade knees. 100 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 1: Well, now I'm going to be really embarrassed about this. 101 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:28,680 Speaker 1: Speaking of the hobbit, have you got anything to do 102 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:30,680 Speaker 1: with what's going on at the moment with with with 103 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:33,080 Speaker 1: coming back around and doing all the Lord ring stuff. 104 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 2: No, I haven't. I've heard of it, but no, not really. 105 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:39,960 Speaker 2: I don't think they're anywhere near any casting decisions whatever. 106 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:42,760 Speaker 2: And I'm not I'm not at I don't know anything 107 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:45,680 Speaker 2: about it. I'm too busy trying to get Gomel off 108 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:48,800 Speaker 2: the off, the off the cab rank. So you know 109 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:53,880 Speaker 2: that's going pretty well. So, I mean, obviously it's exciting. Heck, 110 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:58,680 Speaker 2: anything that come out of some of that stable is wonderful. 111 00:04:58,839 --> 00:05:01,120 Speaker 2: I mean anything, yeah, do you reckon? 112 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:03,120 Speaker 1: It's still got the appeal that it had back in 113 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 1: the day. 114 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:06,760 Speaker 2: I think so because you know, I mean anything to 115 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:09,159 Speaker 2: do with Lord of the Rings or the Hobbit, you 116 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:13,000 Speaker 2: know we're talking about. You know, the fan base in 117 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:19,920 Speaker 2: itself is enormous. There's millions of people who the writing 118 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:24,479 Speaker 2: and let alone, what what Peter and Fran and Philip 119 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:26,840 Speaker 2: can come out with, and of course involving Andy serkis 120 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 2: so you know, I mean it's a great it's a 121 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 2: great start. That's that's a core basis to kick anything off. 122 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:37,320 Speaker 2: And I think anything about anything that's produced or in 123 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:40,120 Speaker 2: New Zealand in the film industry has to be it 124 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:42,760 Speaker 2: has to be an advantage, you know, as long as 125 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:45,560 Speaker 2: New Zealanders are involved obviously, which is a great thing. 126 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:47,960 Speaker 1: You need the work aids quite to bring the work here. 127 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:51,640 Speaker 1: How's it going, by the way, with theater at the moment. 128 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:56,719 Speaker 2: That's pretty hard. Finance is obviously a major concern. Funding 129 00:05:56,720 --> 00:05:59,719 Speaker 2: has dried up a bit. We're not a bit a 130 00:05:59,800 --> 00:06:03,960 Speaker 2: lot and people are being obviously a little bit coy 131 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:07,160 Speaker 2: about buying tickets to get to anything that's live. And 132 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:10,240 Speaker 2: you know, the priority here is making sure whatever we're 133 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:13,040 Speaker 2: putting on is quality. It's got to have you know, 134 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 2: significant you know, significant content, gravitas, et cetera, if you'd 135 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:20,720 Speaker 2: like to call it. And it's also about professionalism. We've 136 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:22,880 Speaker 2: got to see some talent and you've got we've got 137 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:24,720 Speaker 2: to have work for the talent that's coming up through 138 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:27,360 Speaker 2: musical and I'm seeing a lot of young actors now, 139 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:32,160 Speaker 2: both of all the genre, of all the diversities coming up, 140 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 2: and there's some extraordinary stuff. But how they get that 141 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:37,720 Speaker 2: out there is just really hard. The outlet. You know, 142 00:06:39,279 --> 00:06:42,960 Speaker 2: something that I'm trying very hard to keep repeating, which 143 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 2: is about getting people into a theater, getting people into 144 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:51,640 Speaker 2: any venue for live entertainment, specifically acting. We're not seeing 145 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:55,200 Speaker 2: awful lot of it out there, but everyone's trying very 146 00:06:55,240 --> 00:06:56,560 Speaker 2: hard to get things up and running. 147 00:06:57,520 --> 00:06:59,800 Speaker 1: Do you think that part of what you're battling is 148 00:06:59,839 --> 00:07:03,920 Speaker 1: increasing isolation? You know, us us isolating ourselves because we 149 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:05,840 Speaker 1: I mean, you see this with the kids nowadays, right 150 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:08,719 Speaker 1: they just basically go home after school and lie all 151 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:10,520 Speaker 1: evening in their rooms with their phones, and I think 152 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:11,560 Speaker 1: adults are doing it as well. 153 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:14,000 Speaker 2: I think you've hit the nail on the head. I 154 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:16,520 Speaker 2: think it is about that. I think it's and with 155 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:19,320 Speaker 2: that and what's coming with that is, of course, our 156 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 2: loss of being able to communicate to each other. Because 157 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:23,720 Speaker 2: we're doing it all through a phone. We're losing the 158 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:26,440 Speaker 2: ability to be able to actually put words together, to 159 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:29,200 Speaker 2: talk to someone, to look someone in the eye and say, gosh, 160 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:31,880 Speaker 2: you look great today, or what's wrong? Can I help you? 161 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:37,720 Speaker 2: We're missing a lot of that from our psyche, our social, 162 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:43,680 Speaker 2: our social you know, reasoning. So more communication and that's 163 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:45,960 Speaker 2: what theaterre does, that's what we do with I mean 164 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:51,120 Speaker 2: shows that, like what we're doing gommele is not about 165 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 2: anything other than actually the social issues that are happening 166 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:58,040 Speaker 2: for the older generation as they get near retirement age. 167 00:07:58,200 --> 00:08:02,320 Speaker 2: This is what gombal Too two is about. And it's 168 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:07,120 Speaker 2: some really important stuff about kids, grandparents, about kids, parents, 169 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:12,920 Speaker 2: It's about all that and that's about communication. Boom boom boom. 170 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 1: Speaking of the phones. Though, So I went and stalked 171 00:08:15,960 --> 00:08:18,560 Speaker 1: you on your social media and I didn't realize you 172 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 1: were in the navy. 173 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:25,720 Speaker 2: Yeah still I am, I know, I yeah, I How 174 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 2: did you get. 175 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:29,960 Speaker 1: Into the navy? Are you actually trained or like I was. 176 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 2: In the navy when I left school. I joined the 177 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:34,920 Speaker 2: New Zealand Navy when I was sixteen, went into the 178 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:36,840 Speaker 2: Navy three and a half years left and then joined 179 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:39,120 Speaker 2: the reserves back in two thousand and seven, I think, 180 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 2: and then and then, and then dubiously lost a little 181 00:08:43,800 --> 00:08:46,320 Speaker 2: bit of my rank due to a really bad thing. 182 00:08:46,600 --> 00:08:50,640 Speaker 2: What did you do? I was naughty. I went over 183 00:08:50,679 --> 00:08:53,440 Speaker 2: the top ten. Oh, I can't say, because it's actually 184 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 2: it's the Official Secrets Act. No, I'm kidding. No, I 185 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 2: went to a little but overboard at a function I 186 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:04,640 Speaker 2: was doing, so I got reprimanded by DCN and so 187 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:08,960 Speaker 2: I got told to that i'd been naughty. 188 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:10,240 Speaker 1: Did you have too many sherbets? 189 00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:13,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, no I didn't have too many sherbets, but 190 00:09:14,120 --> 00:09:15,920 Speaker 2: most has had a lot of sherbets. And I went 191 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 2: up on the table and said up, and I shouldn't 192 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:22,160 Speaker 2: have said. And then I got, you know, the Deputy 193 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:25,240 Speaker 2: check the Navy was not happy with me, and so 194 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:28,480 Speaker 2: I stood in front of him and I apologized and said, 195 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:32,120 Speaker 2: there's nothing I can say, sir, I did overstep the mark, 196 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:33,400 Speaker 2: and I apologize. Well. 197 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 1: Judging judging by the uniform you had on in the 198 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:38,400 Speaker 1: Instagram picture, you look like you're still pretty senior. Like 199 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:39,800 Speaker 1: it's a pretty flash uniform. 200 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:42,640 Speaker 2: You know, well, I think I'm the oldest lieutenant in 201 00:09:42,679 --> 00:09:44,840 Speaker 2: the ryle using a Navy reserve. 202 00:09:47,200 --> 00:09:49,160 Speaker 1: Just because the Navy uniforms are so flash it looks 203 00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:50,120 Speaker 1: flashy than it actually is. 204 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:51,000 Speaker 2: They do look good. 205 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:53,439 Speaker 1: Before I let you go, how's your house because I 206 00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:54,880 Speaker 1: still got hit by a mud slide. 207 00:09:55,120 --> 00:10:00,280 Speaker 2: Oh fine, absolutely fine, And it's beautiful place, beautiful place 208 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:03,959 Speaker 2: out of my valley. Of the view when you wake 209 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:05,920 Speaker 2: up in the morning looking across the whole of the 210 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:09,800 Speaker 2: able Tasman is absolutely sensational. It's beautiful. 211 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:11,640 Speaker 1: Well, if it's back and hold that, that's probably because 212 00:10:11,640 --> 00:10:12,680 Speaker 1: your wife sorted it out. 213 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:17,199 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, absolutely. When I get to Auckland with Gommele, 214 00:10:17,679 --> 00:10:19,200 Speaker 2: I'm going to ring you and we're going to go 215 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:23,560 Speaker 2: out for a ride seriously, and we're going to tour 216 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:25,880 Speaker 2: later in the year. So but christ Church is going 217 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:26,720 Speaker 2: to get it in February. 218 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:28,040 Speaker 1: I will do it with you and then you can 219 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:29,480 Speaker 1: judge my leg style for me. 220 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:32,880 Speaker 2: Make wait to see Okay, thanks Heaven, look back. 221 00:10:32,679 --> 00:10:35,640 Speaker 1: To yourself a and have a merry Christmas. It's Mark Hadlow. 222 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:39,480 Speaker 1: Mark's doing Gommle Mamltwo Gomal grumpy old man and Liicra 223 00:10:39,679 --> 00:10:42,680 Speaker 1: it's going to the Isaac Theater in February from February 224 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:44,920 Speaker 1: ten to twenty one, and then after that, as he said, 225 00:10:45,160 --> 00:10:46,199 Speaker 1: touring the country as well. 226 00:10:46,760 --> 00:10:49,640 Speaker 2: For more from the Mic Asking Breakfast listen live to 227 00:10:49,760 --> 00:10:52,840 Speaker 2: news talks it'd be from six am weekdays, or follow 228 00:10:52,880 --> 00:10:54,439 Speaker 2: the podcast on iHeartRadio.