1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:04,560 Speaker 1: Good news. If you're looking at the price of petrol 2 00:00:04,680 --> 00:00:07,000 Speaker 1: and you're thinking you might fill up your car sometime soon, well, 3 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:09,360 Speaker 1: the price of oil should be coming down shortly. The 4 00:00:09,400 --> 00:00:11,880 Speaker 1: price of Brent crude has been trending down over the 5 00:00:11,880 --> 00:00:13,920 Speaker 1: past week, and it may still have some way to go. 6 00:00:14,560 --> 00:00:18,599 Speaker 1: Liam dan Is, The Herald's Business editor at large. Kida, Hi, Jack, 7 00:00:18,720 --> 00:00:20,320 Speaker 1: So where's the price at now? 8 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:24,160 Speaker 2: Well, it's still sitting about seventy eight something for a 9 00:00:24,200 --> 00:00:26,400 Speaker 2: barrel of Brent crude if that's what you feel like 10 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:31,160 Speaker 2: getting for yourself US seventy eight. That's good news for motorists, 11 00:00:31,240 --> 00:00:34,320 Speaker 2: right because it's below eighty And we saw it slump 12 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:39,320 Speaker 2: about six or seven percent at the weekend, so you 13 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:41,400 Speaker 2: know that was to do with weird stuff like OPEK 14 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 2: trying to sort of consolidate its production cuts and then 15 00:00:45,960 --> 00:00:49,279 Speaker 2: not impressing the markets with how heavily they consolidated them. 16 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:50,640 Speaker 2: So you'd think it would go up, but it didn't. 17 00:00:50,680 --> 00:00:51,200 Speaker 3: It went down. 18 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:53,040 Speaker 2: And there there's some numbers out of the US on 19 00:00:53,400 --> 00:00:57,080 Speaker 2: US production that was strong. But oil has been coming 20 00:00:57,120 --> 00:00:59,640 Speaker 2: off since the start of the quarter, which is also 21 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:02,840 Speaker 2: kind of good news on the inflation fight. You know, 22 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:04,679 Speaker 2: they need to go into it all. But obviously oil 23 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:05,479 Speaker 2: flows for everything. 24 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:05,920 Speaker 3: Still. 25 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:09,319 Speaker 2: You know, we want to see renewable energy and all 26 00:01:09,319 --> 00:01:12,839 Speaker 2: that stuff, but actually, you know, everything in the economy 27 00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:15,920 Speaker 2: is underpinned by the price of oil, transporting all your 28 00:01:15,959 --> 00:01:18,720 Speaker 2: goods and manufacturing of plastics. 29 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:18,959 Speaker 3: And all that stuff. 30 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:22,319 Speaker 2: So that's quite quite good news on maybe what we'd call. 31 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:23,560 Speaker 3: The tradable side of inflation. 32 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:26,720 Speaker 2: I know the Reserve Bank can't get excited about that 33 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 2: yet because a could move back up and be there 34 00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:32,319 Speaker 2: focused on the non tradable bit, the bit of New Zealand, 35 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 2: you know, the wages and assurance prices and all that 36 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 2: sort of. 37 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 1: Stuff, rates and that sort of thing. Yeah, right, So 38 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:41,520 Speaker 1: how fast should we expect the fuel companies to pass 39 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 1: on any savings? 40 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 2: If they do, I think, I look, this is me 41 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:46,959 Speaker 2: putting the acid on the look. Yes, I think that 42 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:49,720 Speaker 2: we should see the pump price continue to fall a 43 00:01:49,720 --> 00:01:52,440 Speaker 2: bit through the next week. It takes a while to 44 00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:54,880 Speaker 2: flow through, but not not that long. I mean, it's 45 00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:59,639 Speaker 2: pretty immediate commodity price then compared to something like dairy 46 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 2: price is where it can take months for it to 47 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:05,080 Speaker 2: go from the what we see in the Fonterra auction 48 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:09,760 Speaker 2: thing through through your block of cheese. Petrol transmits pretty quickly. 49 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:13,639 Speaker 2: The New Zealand dollar has been a bit stronger four 50 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 2: percent up I think in the past month, if I'm 51 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:18,960 Speaker 2: remembering the ben z ed note correctly, and I look 52 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 2: at that the website, gaspy and you know, so we're 53 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 2: oil prices off for around fourteen percent since the start 54 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:30,920 Speaker 2: of the quarter. Two months we've seen that so far 55 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:34,120 Speaker 2: according to Gas by the you know, in the last 56 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:36,880 Speaker 2: month unleaded ninety ones down about. 57 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:39,520 Speaker 3: Six and a half percent. So that's not bad. 58 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:42,080 Speaker 2: That's a reasonable pass through, but it doesn't shouldn't have 59 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:44,240 Speaker 2: captured yet what we saw at the weekend. So that's 60 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:47,120 Speaker 2: you know, maybe a suggestion that you haven't filled up yet. 61 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 2: Wait a couple of days. Hopefully it's a bit better. 62 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:51,519 Speaker 1: A bit better. Is it? Gaspy? 63 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:53,799 Speaker 3: Gaspy as well? Looking I always thought it. 64 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:57,799 Speaker 1: Was gas spy could be because it not gaspy. I've 65 00:02:57,840 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 1: been saying gas by all these years. I've saying again, 66 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:01,840 Speaker 1: one of us is going to be right, one of us. 67 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:04,480 Speaker 1: There's nothing else right your gas. 68 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:07,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean, look I look at the website. Yeah, gaspy, Yeah, 69 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:10,799 Speaker 3: I mean it is about gas, isn't it? You're probably sure? 70 00:03:11,639 --> 00:03:15,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, No, well, I'm usually wrong with these things. 71 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:19,080 Speaker 2: It's a good pun play on words, which is totally 72 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:20,240 Speaker 2: by Okay, if. 73 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 1: You know, please let us know. Is it gasp be 74 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:24,320 Speaker 1: your gas? By ninety two ninety two? There's some yeah, 75 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:26,200 Speaker 1: I mean if indeed we do see a bit of 76 00:03:26,240 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 1: a fall at the pump, I mean right across the board. 77 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:32,480 Speaker 1: Given you know that, as you said, oil passes through everything, 78 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:34,960 Speaker 1: this is ultimately going to be a little bit of 79 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 1: good news in that fight for inflation. But it's the 80 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 1: non tradables of the domestic stuff that's still kind of sticky. 81 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:41,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, you can into the weeds on that stuff. 82 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:41,480 Speaker 2: They do. 83 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:43,480 Speaker 3: They do sort of cross pollinate a bit. 84 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:46,080 Speaker 1: But you know, oil price doesn't hit rents, for example, 85 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:47,240 Speaker 1: It doesn't necessarily hit. 86 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 2: Rates for it, No, I mean, it's an influence when 87 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:51,760 Speaker 2: it's spiked up above. I think I got to one 88 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:54,160 Speaker 2: hundred and twenty something US stoll as a barrel in 89 00:03:54,160 --> 00:03:56,800 Speaker 2: twenty twenty two. It obviously was one of the sparks 90 00:03:56,960 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 2: that you know, drove that really high inflation. You know, 91 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:04,400 Speaker 2: the financial the economic purists will tell you it's all 92 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:07,240 Speaker 2: money supply. I think it's a bit of a bit 93 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 2: of a mixture, but you know that the price we 94 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:12,560 Speaker 2: play pay for commodities is very much a real world 95 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 2: part of the price that feeds into everything. 96 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:17,840 Speaker 3: I appreciate your time, Thank you very much. Liam. 97 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:21,000 Speaker 1: That is Liam Dan the NZ Herald to business or 98 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:21,440 Speaker 1: at large. 99 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 2: For more from Hither Duplessy Alan Drive, listen live to 100 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:28,479 Speaker 2: news talks it'd be from four pm weekdays, or follow 101 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:30,280 Speaker 2: the podcast on iHeartRadio.