1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,160 Speaker 1: To the rugby though. Meantime, with your blacks returned to 2 00:00:02,160 --> 00:00:04,440 Speaker 1: Eton Park of course to face the resurgence and possibly 3 00:00:04,440 --> 00:00:07,600 Speaker 1: bullish Australian side. We've got six changes out so he 4 00:00:07,640 --> 00:00:09,959 Speaker 1: gets to be captain of course, and Scott Robertson is 5 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:11,600 Speaker 1: your coach and he's back with us. A very good 6 00:00:11,600 --> 00:00:12,200 Speaker 1: morning to you. 7 00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:14,360 Speaker 2: Good morning Mike. 8 00:00:14,600 --> 00:00:15,360 Speaker 1: Are you set to go? 9 00:00:17,680 --> 00:00:21,680 Speaker 2: Which well you still thinks obvious. We've had a couple 10 00:00:21,720 --> 00:00:24,200 Speaker 2: of changes when they drew force, but within the week 11 00:00:24,720 --> 00:00:27,159 Speaker 2: we just want to get back into it after the 12 00:00:27,160 --> 00:00:30,080 Speaker 2: week we had before. So it's a great, great occasion 13 00:00:30,120 --> 00:00:31,040 Speaker 2: to do it good. 14 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:33,639 Speaker 1: And how's that two week on, two week off thing 15 00:00:33,720 --> 00:00:35,840 Speaker 1: working for you? That is that a thing? Have you enjoyed? 16 00:00:35,880 --> 00:00:35,920 Speaker 2: That? 17 00:00:36,040 --> 00:00:37,120 Speaker 1: Is that a good idea or not? 18 00:00:39,080 --> 00:00:41,080 Speaker 2: Well, you have to have the week in between, there's 19 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:44,040 Speaker 2: no doubt about it. But it's it's so unique to 20 00:00:44,080 --> 00:00:48,319 Speaker 2: playing the same team twice, like every every second game 21 00:00:48,320 --> 00:00:50,239 Speaker 2: he's got its own storyline for what happened in the 22 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:54,160 Speaker 2: first game. You know, either hurt or you've been successful, 23 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:59,000 Speaker 2: and people gap so quickly and it is an art 24 00:00:59,040 --> 00:01:03,040 Speaker 2: to that not Evene's quite good at right because no 25 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:06,560 Speaker 2: one's won to in a row in. You know, we 26 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:09,440 Speaker 2: get chance this week against a good world beside. 27 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, you make a very good point. See as a 28 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:15,720 Speaker 1: casual lover of sport, I've actually thoroughly am thoroughly enjoying 29 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:17,720 Speaker 1: the competition because I know you want to win every 30 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 1: time obviously, but what a great competition that is, with 31 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 1: with every participant being a high quality team, and that's 32 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:25,560 Speaker 1: what you want, isn't it. 33 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:30,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's been an orgy of it. You've hit a 34 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:33,399 Speaker 2: couple of blowouts like World number one and two serves 35 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:35,920 Speaker 2: in South Africa took a couple of points at the 36 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:37,600 Speaker 2: end of the game that blow out, and then you've 37 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:40,120 Speaker 2: got a majority of the other games come down in 38 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:42,880 Speaker 2: one play games at the end. And as you see 39 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 2: that this entertainment sector and that builds so so much connection. 40 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:51,440 Speaker 2: So the Nick tweek Argentina play South Africa and took 41 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:55,360 Speaker 2: in them. You know they're pretty much sold out by understanding, 42 00:01:55,440 --> 00:01:58,320 Speaker 2: So you had the whole world behind it and watching it, 43 00:01:58,400 --> 00:01:58,840 Speaker 2: enjoying it. 44 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 1: Having said that two week on, two week off thing, 45 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 1: I mean, this is I mean, you've just given a 46 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:04,640 Speaker 1: very good example, but I mean your example, Nick, You've 47 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 1: got to jump on a plane and go to the 48 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:09,080 Speaker 1: other side of Australia then play again. That's hard yards, 49 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:09,440 Speaker 1: isn't it. 50 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:14,959 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's the old Beck to Becks, but that's a 51 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:17,560 Speaker 2: part of it. It's a little bit different to sort 52 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:19,360 Speaker 2: of Rugby World Cups. You know you get sort of 53 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:22,360 Speaker 2: five sort of five or six big game well at 54 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:24,320 Speaker 2: the Beck and you get three or four big games 55 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 2: in a row, and then for this one, because you've 56 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:30,840 Speaker 2: got over a six six games in that in that period, 57 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:34,320 Speaker 2: paying the same team, you know you're going to change 58 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:37,640 Speaker 2: these slightly adjust your team along the way, your technics 59 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:41,040 Speaker 2: because you're playing the same team, like and there are 60 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 2: all sudden emancy teams. We know each other pretty well. 61 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:45,840 Speaker 2: And when you go and play like the end of 62 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:49,640 Speaker 2: your tour last year, we had five games five weeks. 63 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:52,920 Speaker 2: By the end of it, you know you play, you 64 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:56,080 Speaker 2: know you paying all different conditions. You're traveling, you're on 65 00:02:56,200 --> 00:02:58,839 Speaker 2: and off buses and stuff, so how they need to train. 66 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:00,240 Speaker 2: In the end, you're just going to keep free as 67 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:02,519 Speaker 2: you're possibly gain this week off and the whole He 68 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 2: gives you that little bit of injy boost. 69 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:08,240 Speaker 1: A couple of weeks ago against the first South African side, 70 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:10,560 Speaker 1: there was this whole eaten park thing and oh we 71 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 1: haven't lost the has that been a thing this week 72 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:15,120 Speaker 1: at all? If it ever was a thing or not. 73 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:20,840 Speaker 2: That's a thing. That's definitely sort of thing. You know. 74 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:24,520 Speaker 2: It's a it's a it's a it's a great gift 75 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:27,680 Speaker 2: you got given because you've got people that have kids 76 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:31,320 Speaker 2: so deeply about performing in a place that's sort of 77 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 2: historically just keep melting up from performance on performance. So 78 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:36,720 Speaker 2: when it comes to you, you know, your gift is 79 00:03:36,760 --> 00:03:40,360 Speaker 2: to earn it again so for people see how much 80 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 2: it cares for you. And obviously we've got loads of 81 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 2: this week and you know what they like. They're plan 82 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:47,160 Speaker 2: good and we you know, just you just get a 83 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 2: rise to it. Misteris Key. 84 00:03:49,600 --> 00:03:52,120 Speaker 1: How good are the Australians do you think? 85 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 2: I well really find out tomorrow night. I think hands 86 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 2: on and just it was the style we pay. But 87 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:07,160 Speaker 2: they've got really refined structures, they kick well. They brought 88 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 2: some really good young paths who have got some speed 89 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 2: and and your leaders are playing well so then they 90 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:17,200 Speaker 2: don't go away so that they're then they're well coached. 91 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:18,799 Speaker 2: So they're a good package. 92 00:04:18,960 --> 00:04:20,960 Speaker 1: Yeah they are. I was reading a piece from the 93 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 1: Australian media. They gave a series of reasons as to 94 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 1: why this could be the best time for Australia ever 95 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:28,960 Speaker 1: to beat you guys. Youthful freedom was one of their arguments. 96 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 1: Do you think there's a bit of youthful freedom in there? 97 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:32,800 Speaker 1: They're unburdened? Is there something in that? 98 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 2: How you look at it, that's a great narrative for 99 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:41,000 Speaker 2: you to talk about if it's what you wanted to 100 00:04:41,240 --> 00:04:47,360 Speaker 2: become alive. Yeah, I suppose they pay fast good. It 101 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:50,720 Speaker 2: just takes freedom. Is probably a little bit around being fearless. 102 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:52,800 Speaker 2: So that's what we expect as well. 103 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:56,200 Speaker 1: I don't want to dwell on the loss. But the 104 00:04:56,240 --> 00:04:59,360 Speaker 1: only question that everyone asks when you're when you're in 105 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:03,119 Speaker 1: the box with your walkie talkie and things are going wrong, 106 00:05:04,080 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 1: and the argument has always been that that you guys 107 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 1: can't adjust that something unfolds that you're not expecting or whatever. 108 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:13,800 Speaker 1: That you can't adjust what's in that moment, what's going on. 109 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:20,120 Speaker 2: Look, when we chase the game, we probably we overchase 110 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:23,000 Speaker 2: the game, you know, when we sort of got to 111 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:29,040 Speaker 2: the three scores and were frustrating and stuff. So when 112 00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:32,760 Speaker 2: you're singing, you see the team trying to chase it, 113 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:34,760 Speaker 2: and so you just send our messages like one word 114 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:38,480 Speaker 2: messages that reflect the mindset. So what you're trying to 115 00:05:38,520 --> 00:05:40,560 Speaker 2: achieve it if you want to hold the ball or 116 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:45,479 Speaker 2: do you want to go to a mall? Do you 117 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:48,360 Speaker 2: do go down shore side? Or is it kick differently? 118 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:52,200 Speaker 2: So you get one or two words and messages huddle. 119 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:56,719 Speaker 2: Those huddles are thirty seconds. You've got one of the 120 00:05:56,720 --> 00:06:01,799 Speaker 2: water carriers or medicals, medicals running near saying one word 121 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:04,680 Speaker 2: to the captain to get the or one of the 122 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 2: leaders to get their message across. So a lot of 123 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:11,800 Speaker 2: preparation goes into that, and and then there's the key 124 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 2: around it. How do you can help that one word 125 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 2: can slowly, slowly change a little bit of mindset all 126 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:17,040 Speaker 2: the flow of the game. 127 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:20,599 Speaker 1: Do you put weight on the bounce back so when 128 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:23,360 Speaker 1: things have gone wrong there is a real bounce back 129 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:25,159 Speaker 1: for you guys the next opportunity. 130 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 2: Again, you don't want to do that. To do that, 131 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 2: do you? That's the first thing, So you don't want 132 00:06:32,920 --> 00:06:35,800 Speaker 2: to have to bounce back. It's not you. We want 133 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:39,279 Speaker 2: consistency and reliability. That's just to keep every every team 134 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:41,520 Speaker 2: to frone up. The meaning what what's in front of them. 135 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:44,120 Speaker 2: You're going to be inspired internally, not by by a 136 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:48,680 Speaker 2: past result. And look you can draw on it. A 137 00:06:48,680 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 2: lot of our guys like to plans to do it. 138 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:54,000 Speaker 2: So yeah, whatever, few of you take it. 139 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:56,800 Speaker 1: And what about the MPC. Does that helped? Did they 140 00:06:56,920 --> 00:06:57,400 Speaker 1: enjoy that? 141 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:01,760 Speaker 2: Yeah? Some of the of course. You know, there's a 142 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:03,280 Speaker 2: lot of guys in your thirty six, don't you get 143 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 2: playing and your rugby player. You've got to play your 144 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:07,920 Speaker 2: sport and get in there and get back to your 145 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:10,840 Speaker 2: teams and not just training. Actually get to put a 146 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:13,400 Speaker 2: sholder on someone with a bit of meaning you can 147 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:16,280 Speaker 2: and then the scrum and line out and do all 148 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:18,080 Speaker 2: the things you need to to keep yourself to come 149 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:18,680 Speaker 2: back into test. 150 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:20,960 Speaker 1: Foody, fantastic. Well, it's going to be a good night. 151 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:23,360 Speaker 1: I think the it's a forecast any I think it's 152 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 1: going to rain in the afternoon or something. Does that 153 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:25,840 Speaker 1: make any difference to you? 154 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:32,520 Speaker 2: We did it better now we're now we're I said Jason. 155 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 2: We wish it's going to rain. We just let it rain. 156 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:35,680 Speaker 2: You s get on with it. But we have the 157 00:07:35,720 --> 00:07:39,120 Speaker 2: conditions are well, we'll take on. But we just pleased 158 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:41,080 Speaker 2: made another seller that we had all six sold out 159 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:45,840 Speaker 2: this year and thanksful the support for everyone, and yeah, 160 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:46,520 Speaker 2: I appreciate it. 161 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:49,080 Speaker 1: All right, mate, go well, we'll be watching as always. 162 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:53,520 Speaker 1: Scott robertson, who's the All Blacks coach. Just on related matters, 163 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:56,280 Speaker 1: by the way, Jason Pine was in earlier on this 164 00:07:56,320 --> 00:07:59,640 Speaker 1: morning doing some more of his just Standout prep. He 165 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:02,240 Speaker 1: was there about seven o'clock and I said, you've got 166 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:04,680 Speaker 1: an eleven o'clock pre record, Jason, he said, twelve fifteen. 167 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:07,080 Speaker 1: He's in there six hours early, so he's. 168 00:08:07,240 --> 00:08:10,880 Speaker 2: Technically he's in there about what twenty eight hours early. 169 00:08:11,080 --> 00:08:12,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know what he's got lined up for 170 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:15,400 Speaker 1: the weekend, but when he's prepping here on Friday, it's Friday, 171 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:17,960 Speaker 1: it's just it's going to be good. It's bound to 172 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:21,200 Speaker 1: be award winning. For more from the Mic Asking Breakfast, 173 00:08:21,360 --> 00:08:24,680 Speaker 1: listen live to news talks. It'd be from six am weekdays, 174 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:26,960 Speaker 1: or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.